#💬-events-feedback
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and no, I did not get 'fired'
modding under these circumstances is simply something I kinda refuse
and the influencer part is something, well, I do like influencing, the issue is, they wanted it the other direction
amongst a lot of other reasons I won't disclose
Ohh
lets just say, the communication felt like being one sided
sorry, but if it's like that, I am better off with not being a redjack
You can't polish a turd, and that's what a lot of these events are.
Anyone here reached D’vor to tier 8??
@mild glaciergives 4bps per milestone for jellyfish, and a spock shard
@open otter Yes that's what the events would give. They're supposed to end at 19 though.
None at 20
@open otter our server 142 doesn't get these jelly events. Asked severalnlvl 17-19. none of them got any on these.
do they already have the jelly ?
and you reminded me to rejoin the ROE server of 142 😛
@gilded edge saw ss and videos of players on several other servers to get a jelly event when they reach level 17-19. 142 might just be the black sheep. I was tired of the ROE server, left it :/
lemme guess, in favour of CSMA ? 🙂
@gilded edge not that **** 😂😂 I do follow roe just left the discord server.
"Hostile Hunt" says I can "gain shards of a powerful mining officer". There are precisely zero officer shards at any reward tier.
@forest wave same here...
How hard is it to make an event suit all time zones ... @gilded edge
Marginally harder than just flipping one switch (metaphorically speaking)
Marginally 😂😂🤯🤯
server 69, Kohva and Andaris and several others swarm systems have stuck swarms. making impossible to do events and missions
Anyone else have the burst raid event right now? Anyone else seeing that people who lose resource show up as positive? We took 10m off a guy and hes now in the top 10 with 10m. Brilliant
@outer arch confirmed this is happening on our server as well
Anyone u raid gets the same points u get
that issue has been reported and relayed as far as I know
The issue regarding players gaining points on losing resources with the burst event has been rectified. Sadly, we're unable to call for a reset or other measures to undo damage caused before the fix was applied. 😔
Suggestion: onShake -> reload playerdata
instead of needing to force clients to restart everytime 😛
devs can also use this event to keep track of how often people need to request that reload
and have it as marker in the logs to see after what actions it was requested, should make debugging for them easier
Hi Scopely. Why is there event disparity between servers? Some get events that reward jellyfish or north star blueprints but others don’t. Thing like the station upgrade/prepare for level 18 events
Kill hostile event, meh. Why this is on a 8hr cycle I dont know.
Go mining Jim if you don't like it,only problem with this event is that hostile spawn isn't fixed
I used two ships for spawn generation grinding lowers so my prime ship could eat the higher level spawn
Horrible idea to have a burst damage event that only rewards top 5, might as well just give the prizes to the whales without even holding the event
That's been my sentiment all along, and very much the popular opinion on my server.
Burst events should be level banded...just give reward to level 39s on server, no point holding this event.
^^^^^^
Was just coming to post the exact same thing
The couple of folks that are 35-39 on my server will get the 5 rewards, no one else should bother trying
Yup no point participating, absolutely redic.
1 min in, avg non whale is low 20s, 5th place over 1.5m dmg.......
on my server im 11th with 5mil, 1st place has 59 mil
basically the same on my server, killed as many as I could with lvl 25 and lvl 35 north stars ended with a few hundred thousand, look at first place and they are already at 35 mil. Pretty pointless event. I agree with previous statement, might as well just hand the prizes to the players that are online at the time and paid the most because they win by default.
Way to mess up a previously great event guys
Oh look, 1st on the server is Goblin with.... drumroll 366 Mil....
doing better than our server, top guy is OneWayTraffic (nice name) with 336,926,900. 2nd place is 178,404,500 lol
The best part? Goblin only started about 15 mins ago
He missed the first 20 mins of the event
probably just killing nothing but bosses
Yeah, the way to even score in this event is to attack the bosses
[S:331029704 X:691.6675 Y:-211.524] GD here killing swarms
391 mil is our top right now. Why would anyone without a black card even think about competing?
And GD finishes the event off with 664 mil... Yup, the rest of us totally stood a chance
842m on our server
I don't care much about the top, and I think I know the tactic behind it
but summarized, starting to love the BFG event
grab a team, relocate to a system that is habitable with the right hostiles in it, occupy spawn points, start laying havoc
and perhaps have a few more players in there in the beginning to ensure the rest of the hostiles is killed
so you know for sure the only way left for a hostile is from the spawnpoint, directly into the whales mouth
having your station in that system ensures a quick jump for repairs
if it was up to me, I'd change the interval for the bfg solo from per 8 to per 4 hours
and add a bit of tri into the rewards in order to cover repair costs a little better
no, the timing is just about right, 3 runs at roughly 3 hours repair without using speedups is perfect. relocating to those systems helps, but not everyone can do it, limits their options for doing other things in many cases. We just got a ton of trit plus tokens, it's ok if we don't get it for a couple days.
IT would be a great event if hostile spawns were fixed. that's the only real problem. If all systems spawned only hostiles of the level of that system it would be so much better.
sometimes people miscalculate their possibilities 😛
like me, I was hunting hostiles in a level 30 system and was afraid of needing to kill the 31's
until I figured out the triangle allowed me to kill them easily
there is nothing wrong with the fact that there are +/-1 hostiles present as well
but I partially agree with you, it would be nice that if you kill a hostile of a certain level, the same level of hostile gets respawned in order to provide balance
Putting someone in the low 20s to compete with high 30s in the same bracket for these events is ridiculous. Zero chance of placing in these events
@mild glacier oh, and the stuff I said about relocating was actually a tactic I'd use to get an alliance on top with such events
yeah it works out ok for alliance events so long as you don't have a bigger whale alliance come sweeping in.
@crude wadi offtopic question, what does TTP stand for ? 🙂
probably alliance tag.
I know it's an alliance tag
I am wondering something, that one of the T's stands for Tripoli
if thats the case, I might know that guy 😛
could mean anything, i've seen lots of alliances with tags that are entirely unrelated to the name they chose.
especially if he is associated to a palestinian irc network
We need two alliances: TCP and their sister alliance IP.
why not UDP ?
PPP?
that would be really appropriate for a pvp game
and then throw DHCP into the mix
WPA2?
plenty of choice in IT land 😛
TTP is short for The Third Party. Not a great name, but its the people in the alliance that make it great .
My favorite on our server is: SPOT name:4 lights.
yeah, and you don't fit the description I mentioned ? 🙂
the coincidence would be too great, but this world is too small 😛
Definitely not me
ah ok
What i find strange with the burst ranking event is im a lvl 30 hunting 32-34 hostiles and was beat by a lvl 20 player and was ahead almost 30million points and i started earlier than him and using 2 ships... How was that possible?
he probably picked comparably higher hostiles
I slaughtered 29-31's yesterday as level 25 and ended up on #23
Separatist bosses mate is the way
a level 20 killing sep bosses ? doubt that
Don't need to kill them, using nero or arix you burn them
he must have bought his north star in the beginning of february, kept low on levelling up and maxed out his ns in the meantime using lots of cash
Or going for high lv swarm with burning
swarms, perhaps
as they come in much more and lower power based flavours
sep bosses start with level 26 I think
normal seps at 17
Swarm have no shield, that helps
A quick video explaining how to increase your score in damage done to hostiles events.
This will show you how to score higher @void basalt
Btw please if anyone reads this we need this event tiered, only 5 ppl getting rewards from the entire server it's really extreme.. tier it or make it so atleast top 20 get rewards. . Ty
25 like with other events
Any solo event that is server wide is just plain stupid. If a lower level gets lower amount of rss in a pack, if he gets lower rss rewards from event, what is the sense in him competing against anyone 1 level higher than him?
Need fraction events more often, they should be a daily event... Kill the Klingons, Kill the Romulans, Kill the Federation....
On our server, the burst event #1 scores 10x more points than anyone else. we're talking like 600M vs 60M...
Can we stop these 8 hour events, they really are hard to compete when time zones prevent you from participating and only being able to do 2/3 of the event. 2 x 12 hour events killing double to retain the same for 3x8 hours might be a good idea so you can see better participation
They want you tired and groggy so you might spend unnecessarily
Seems kind of moronic that everyone is group with players that have epic grade 3 ship, can go to level 26 Separatist bosses, and rack up millions of points.
How is it possible nobody considered brackets in terms a ship availability. Meaning, all 24's and 25's in one bracket. 26's and 27's in another, up until it's 34+?
umm, that's kinda how it works, you get new ship availability at even levels up to 34.
Lol why sepertist bosses so you lose?
Swarms are more efficient for burst events, no shields...just take 2 maxed franklins and go to town on 32's until one goes boom then go nuts with the other while the first is on it's way back
2 maxed Franklin's, please mate, you seriously think that many of us have even one maxed Frank or you just show of
I'll admit there may be some hyperbole involved in my statement but the crux of it is true, swarms give the most bang for your buck in burst events....my second Franklin is only t7.5 rn for the record
If I'm ever awake during a burst event I'd send baby franklin to a lvl30 swarm system and farm those between daddy franklins repair and return times 😉
that's why the whales always win, they have 2 maxed franklins, seen them at work.
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2 Franklins?! Impressive. I still have to finishing getting blueprints for my first.
2 and a half if I'm honest...
i got 3 frankies
I will build the 3rd when the 1st is complete, just the three weapons left. My 2nd is like your 2nd @vagrant topaz .
i just did it for the modulators in the build the franklin event
Me too, seemed to make sense really.
only one gun, warp and cargo left on my main
Swarm Sundays are a good addition. Nice rewards and also a push on modulators for the upgrades.
modulators should really be rewarded on swarm sundays 😞
I agree, would be worth a shout on next q&a or one to run up the pole?
already mentioned it
i bought my way to T8 on day one of the franklin, did my dailies almost every day since and still need 2.4mil freq mods to get to t9
It’s a good ship for f2p to grind more res from and make the whole game more interactive.
I did nearly the same, just broke t8 and only did required lvls. Now I farm. 32s for all 50 swarm points.
I love my Frank and still grinding away at my swarm dailies either her so I can tier her up still a tier 1 but I got her during the Franklin event and got her in 3 days including building her
lvl26-27
lvl28-29
lvl30
How is it fair that lower levels have to do more work for less points? this is severely unbalanced
28-29 have to do over twice the work of 30's and 26-27 have to do 20%more work that 28-29
This needs to be balanced far better please
@mild glacier at 27 it was a breeze for me. a single battleship run did the job. at 28 it is at least 2.5 repairs. technically I would be able to complete ops 30 easier as finding 80 lvl 32s is just a pain in the neck
@dusky sleet it takes 2.5 repairs with a battleship at 27 for most players. 2 even if you fight klingons and manage to kill only level 30's. which of course is near impossible since virtually everyone on the server is doing the same.
@mild glacier I think that is a matter of perspective and timing. On my server I see ops 28 and 29 players all going for 32's in the systems I choose to hunt. lvl 26-27 are sometimes nowhere to be found to kill those pesky 30 and 31 hostiles so we have to do it ourselves
@mild glacier sure you need fewer points but the costs at higher levels in terms of repair speed ups and materials are far greater even with a maxed Sala I can only kill about 10 lvl 39 hostiles in one round. Repair time is six hours. So please it just can not be compared. But from my perspective it seems about fair.
So when the event shuts in 2hrs, what happens to my 200+gold trophies? Get dusty waiting for events store to open?
In my experience with this event, it's about player balance. If you level your station ahead of research and ship, it is bound to get costly to complete the events. Participation in the event is not mandatory, nor is full completion. That said, if you maintain a slightly stronger ship for your level, you'll do just fine. Keep in mind that there are natural "transition points" and level 28 is one of those points where you're now engaging at a harder game difficulty. Those that hang back and stay at level 14 for instance, can often dominate their category. Happy Gaming!
Ye i cant do the daily vs level 30 because it takes 3 ships to take out 1 level 30. How the .... am i supposed to play this event???? Sorry this event is a middle finger to those who dont pay to play
You need 3 ships to take out a single level 30 hostile?? You can't be serious @vagrant topaz
Gotta be trolling. There's no way you're that weak.
The rewards for the four day, solo, server wide damage event are an absolute joke.
@vagrant topaz you don't need to kill swarm hostile, any hostile do it
My franklin is weak, 160k and ive only been level 30 for a week
I think i have derped think i need to kill swarms........... 🤣🤣🤣
#blond moment
<@&509690795536941056> @prime gulch
Why is there still no real bracketing system in place for these events? How is anyone supposed to compete in these events against a 39 with 5 docks and 1, if not several, million+ power ships? I understand the old events the coding may be hard to accommodate that. But these new events, there really is no excuse. You really kill participation so much, which in turns kills potential profit. The 39’s will still try to win. And they will still spend money. Everyone else wants to compete, and potentially spend more money.
I am level 31 with two 600k power ships and i will spend $0 on this neat event, and will only do the daily kill event.
Please separate the levels in these cool events so more people can participate. I want to spend money. I want to try to have a chance in ranked events. I, along with the majority of players in my same situation, will not spend $ towards an event we have 0 chance at. You want us to spend $. So do we. Give us a chance to.
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@vagrant topaz actually the costs seemed pretty well balanced, it’s the rewards that were unfair. Most low to mid 30’s on our server were completing the event in just a single ship run and earning twice the amount of points that the mid 20’s could get in 2 or 3 runs. Costs about 9 hours repair for the mid 20’s and the same or a little less for the 30’s. Rewards tho we’re highly skewed toward the higher end. Alliances without at least several 30+ players just couldn’t compete. It was a good event (minus poor hostile spawns), just the competition balance was way off.
Second what yasheen said. I’m not even going to bother because there’s no hope.
I’m struggling to understand the logic behind the solo’s though. All week (while I’ve been at work and unable to play) there has been solo events that at my lvl need 2000 points for top tier, every 8 hours.
I’m off for the weekend, nothing to do and my daily solo is 220 points every 24 hours.
One took 10 minutes, one took hours with repairs. What the hell.
It’s great to get the uncommon, but I’d be much more willing to have tougher solo’s in exchange for bigger payouts. None of these events follow even the simplest of thought processes
Jailbreak top reward has 1 x Pass Key
Recruitment specials have a 5 Pass Key chest but these specials are limited to 4 days
By my maths the max keys you can earn from Jailbreak would be 4 Pass Keys until the events stop
What have I missed?
The packs in the iap store
The packs in the store are a joke, you’d get more from just buying a regular faction pack. It’s just Another pack to sell to all of the suckers in the galaxy
Add federation credits to the rewards, so people can promote the officers, that can't get the credits
Once again we are getting these filler events...they are new but no doubt fillers in advance of changes to the game...wonder what that could be!?.... Leave y...
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@vagrant topaz I second what you said. This event is a joke. It's like they missed off the top 5 tiers of rewards. I completed it in 5-10 mins. Would of been quicker if more hostiles around.
Either give the event better rewards or restart it more regularly
8 hour timer would make sense for this event
1hr timer would make more sense for this event.
This event Is about federation officers, this event Is useless for all player that are not friend with federation...
or people that don't have fed credits to promote said officers.
"Here are 4 new events. You're not allowed to play 3 of them."
It’s nice that we have an event exclusively tailored to these who aligned Fed
if only this events solo target were switched with the last one. very low target and 24 hours while last event I had to do 6x more kills in 8 hours. Who designs these stuff? 😂😂
I am still getting points for this event and got the one bloody pass key if I am still getting points for it give me another key
If you’re stupid and you know it and you really wanna show it. Buy a Pack...
These packs are awful. No one is buying these in my fleet..
And we have a lot of spenders
The only packs that are on my server is the jellyfish and I ain’t gonna buy it
I need some of what $copely's on before this event makes sense...?
You can't be serious?
Where's prime officers pack instore? If I had th cash, that's whereid spend..
@frozen lodge oh, no they're serious alright
If they move the decimal point 1 step to the left, in shop, profits would jump 3 decimal points to the right, they effectively exclude 80%o customer base by pricing us out of the market...???
I believe the only thing Scopely do thier homework in, is the store. I think they have some statistics behind these packs and their price. They have limited numbers of whales who regularly spend and hence stupid packs with insane price make sense. Unlike any other mobile game that have millions of player base Scopely probably would make less if they lowered pack price. I personally don't think anything in any game is worth 10bucks let alone 100. It is afterall supposed to be for fun. If anyone is rich and spends good money on this game, good for them :)
How is a paywall fun?
I respect your view ila, & agree about the whales, absolutely! But we're past the startup stage, 12 months in, the whales have done the heavy lifting, let the minnows contribute,?
If Scopely cared about their player base they would had done it long ago. Unfortunately, they are in it only for short term 💰 I suppose. I just hope this game isn't trashed before I have had my fun.
thing that pisses me off is after you spend some certain amount, you never see cheaper packs again....i mean i'll toss 5-10 bucks (even $20 for something like the NS) into a game occasionally if i like it even just for some speedups to support the game if nothing else, but i'm not about to drop $20-$50 into a game for a pack that 1/2 the stuff in it is useless to me
@prime gulch
In current Jailbreak event, we have this containment cells where we can get pass keys to buy officer shards. 1 pass key in every 24hrs? That's only 3 or 4 keys in 4 days which can pay for only a shards throughout the event.
Payback leaderboard is not tiered properly. On our server (135) the top ranking player(lvl35) has 2.4B points 1 billion ahead of everybody. We can't compete with that!
To get on the top100 leaderboard, one must spend several 100k of trit on sbip repairs to get the 25k trit reward. Can't see any well founded reason to even participate.
My Scotty and Uhura are on their current maximum so I can't spend xp on them. So I can't score on this.
I have 5 marcus shards only, no chance to unlock him for this event, so it's a big nono again.
In my personal viewpoint this event is a big waste of time and resources to even participate.
Scopely has to tweak it while it lasts, to suit free2play players as well.
Otherwise it's just a small step for us and a big leap for the whales.
They were hearing the complaints about the advertising of Officer Badges as a chance to drop with a loyalty pack 2, but instead of allowing them to drop with faction credits, they continue to falsely advertise that and bring out another chance to purchase them for the low price of 99. Now more people are realizing that they need badges for several officers to promote and not possible to get without spending 99.
Do y’all realize that the “cater to big spenders” model is the most effective in the mobile game industry? Industry studies have shown over and over again that relying on a small group of big spenders is more profitable than relying on a large group of small spenders. So all y’all saying “they’d make more money if packs were cheaper,” no they wouldn’t
And i say this as someone who wishes packs were cheaper
Granted, there’s also apparently a discord channel specifically for high spenders so
There is?...
Soby excluding 80% of players from the shop, they make more money... Sooo.....next year there's gonna be 10... 15 millionaires playing??? Only...? Cause we can't pay whales rates, which means in game, we can't rate... So we drp out cause we can't pay to play... Game of deminishing returns... So sad...
@wilsonari#3792 you do realise when you say "y'all ".... We are the majority??? & the only reason we are still here is to judge whether Armadas lives up to 12months of hype... Right?
@vagrant topaz according to some of the high spenders on our server, yeah
@frozen lodge I say y’all not about low spenders, but about people trying to give a huge company lessons on profitability
Can't pay to play, like 80% of players, am working class, love this game, hate that it's pay gated, who are the whales gonna play with when we, the masses, can no longer play?
it's simple math actually
if the majority does not invest, lower the prices, more will spend, and in the end, you make more profit
that simple math is not present with them, thanks to the high rollers who simply wave with their CC's
29-11-2019, I challenge scopely to use the anniversary to have a week of 50% reduction on sales, to see what difference it makes!
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@winged axle feel free to relay that into MC
MC?
why is there a + sign next to the rewards for the domination solo milestones when the tokens are the only thing you get ?
don't get me wrong, I love those tokens 😉
but people expect to get more when seeing that
⬆ This
yes, it would show at least 1 item and the +<something> number in such cases, still, you need to use the other box asset without the + if the amount of items is only 1
and now, lets get those tokens! 😛
@frozen lodge they're trying to save you money, they know this game is expensive
Was this event planned to be a break from events? kill 12 hostiles in 5 minutes, spend all your xp to level 2 (maybe 3 if you're lucky or spent $$$) officers and then what? there's nothing more. I'm not counting the leaderboard because all leaderboards are garbage due to lack of proper level tiering.
Now prepare your credit card for armada, because it's not going to be free or cheap to participate 😉
not likely.
The whales aren't dominating as much as they used to, they need some locked content to help them crush entire servers again.
@prime gulch is there a reason the Armada event has not had anything said about it in the announcement channel?
They are still advertising 2x for elite monthly ,yet when you tap on it ,it only shows single numbers. Is the 2 x over?
Dude, events at lvl 18 let you get jellyfish parts, but rush to ops 20?? Once I got to lvl 19 one more jellyfish event then nothing, can’t get it, 😭
2x has an expiry from memory, I got it, had no choice option, choice came after expiry but it has no 2x nuff said
Those domination events are good but could you not refresh them every 24hours because it's quite impossible to do them all if you don't pay for xp officier or ship or buy 1 thousand speed up
Nobody is listening it seems
100m budget and they can’t keep someone responding to events-feedback lil
who says nobody is reading ?
you think discord is their only task ?
so yes, if you want the jelly for free, which is going to become useless very quickly once you get the vahklas, stay on 18
otherwise, jelly bp packs should become available once in a while in the store if you like me insist on having it for having it in your colllection
I also learned this the hard way
I hear a lot about picking up blue prints etc from missions but the best way to collect is hidden in specific levels with no obvious instructions to help the player, poorly planned and dictated, needs to be fixed. Not shy about saying franklin is specific level only offer in store, but pick up free jellyfish blue prints, doesn’t say it’s level 18 only.
Offers to buy come up before the free offer, constantly told you can get ships from missions or events but the truth is you get a small window to get the free stuff which not many ppl know, and you are told to rush to level 20 which ruins your chances of free ships. And I’m only talking about the jelly as the franklin has no bps outside buying and I assume the rest of the ships are the same, by the time you have enough blue prints, you don’t need the ship. Onvious money grab and yes, I believe with 100m profit in the first 8 months of sales from this game they could easily have a couple of staff attending to discord full time, enjoy buying more, I won’t be, nuff said...
the bp's in missions are not bound to level
if you finish them, even at a higher level, you get em
the franklin bp's can be obtained during special events they launch to introduce the swarm to new people
@weary dome Franklin is in events, that give all needed bps if you complete all the milestones
@gilded edge missions don't give enough bps, level 18 has a event for certain servers, mainly new servers, that gives 4 jellyfish bps every other day
same as they will relaunch the missions to obtain the d'vor
I know how the stuff works
no need to tell me
but you can also get I think 21 or 26 bps in the normal missions where the jelly is being talked about
Not enough to build it if you rush too quickly through the academy
exactly
so either focus on the jelly and stay 18 max
or rush and force yourself to buy the remaining bp's with a 25 pack to get it build later
the choice is yours
honestly, I picked option 2
coz I had level 18, close to become 19 when I figured this out as well
back then jelly parts where given during the battle for glory events
Tbh I didn't need to do anything, I used a few speed ups, and I didn't have to stay at ops 18
I just continued moving on up, and i got enough bps to obtain the jellyfish
then you already collected enough bp's through events
and only needed the remainder you obtained through the 21/26 available ones in missions
Indeed I did, now I have a beautiful t4 jelly
@weary dome what you actually want is the ability to get the ship you want with a single event
lemme put you out of your dreams, not going to happen
if you want it in the first go: open your wallet
otherwise learn patience and wait for the next 2 or 3 editions of the event
it's a fremium game, period
You could have just said fermium , the rest is just BS period.
yeah, the typo is that it's actually freemium I wanted to say
South Park explains the model behind freemium mobile games! They pretty much nail it :)
maybe you now get my point
you CAN
but in order to do that, you need a LOT of patience
No dude, it’s BS. Read my earlier note, rush to 20 event, but miss out on jelly
just coz you decide to wanna rush through the levels doesn't make this unfair
No mention that the jelly is free at 18 only, wake up and smell the lawsuit
yes, either rush to 20, or do not rush, get the jelly without buying bp's and wait for the next rush to 20 event
there is no law that says that it is forbidden to reveal up to when something is available
and in fact, even if you wanna file one, I wish you good luck, you will fail on that point
I won’t be filing one, won’t need to once the powers that be catch on to this scam
I see no scam in this
if you would have asked before, experienced players could have told and warned you about this being the case as well
Lol
again. the way you play it is your choice
either rush and miss out, or take it easy and enjoy the benefits of playing slower
the company chooses not to reveal all the info about their mechanics, forcing players to figure it out themself
what was the initial purpose of the enterprise again ?
to seek out new lifeforms etc ?
I guess I should ask others to divulge your affiliation with Scopely coz it’s not something you have presented yourself
to EXPLORE ?
you remember the pvp level change ?
they didn't publish the changes for that very reason, they wanted the players to figure out the numbers themself
they published that a change was made, but not in detail
The level change was before my time, as was a fair chance (or any) at a free franklin
the franklin/swarm events will return
race to ops 20 events will return, I saw them like 2/3 times before since feb
I hear that but in reality , lvl 28 players. Who only saw the event once lol
yes, coz they raced beyond that
which was their decision to make back then
they had no patience, couldn't wait
No, the game mechanics cause that, it’s not a game of patience.
it can be
It’s a game of $$$
depends all on the player who plays it
of course the publishers main focus is getting cash out of it
nuff said
thats with any company in the gaming industry
thats with everything
even the stuff you consider free in most cases tries to get money in some way
not even breathing is free, the goverment wants you to pay enviromental taxes for that
if you don't realize that, you live in a bubble that seriously needs to get popped to have a reality check
Where is the ignore button so I can add you to it
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there shout be much more raffinery events
@prime gulch so armadas are coming, is there a planned fix for the mayflower yet or this this another part of the game that’s going to be unavailable to me
@vagrant topaz soon
More “prepare “ than “soon“ 😜
Official word is all faction ships are getting an overhaul. We shall see how that works out.
So, kehra, vahklas & Kumari, remain untouched, no game wide ship rebalancing? Just faction ships...?
nah, I enjoy beating up kehra's with my single weapon northstar, this is fine 🙂
Agreed kumari is pretty sweet, point was more explorer rebuff & kehra... 🖖😇
So if it's just faction ships,they already said saladin stays as is, is that just code for "payflower to be fixed"?
@Devs -feedback regarding jellyfish event / sale, when jellyfish first goes on sale, game says you have 105 days to purchase, but when you hit lvl 15, the offer disappears, you can get 30bps from missions, then the rest from events however the events dissappear once you hit lvl 19, there is no warning that you will miss out on the purchase or free acquisition of the jelly at lvls 15 and 19, have spoken to several players who have around 71/75 bps like myself that would have liked to get the jellyfish but stuck without it due to these limitations, can you make it clearer these sale / events will expire at 15 / 19 or preferably allow them to be available for the 105days rather than expire based on player level. Cheers.
It's always expired based on level. It starts to become less useful at level 20, and by 22 it usually ends up permanently mothballed in your hangar. Jellyfish at level 14 dominates everything, jellyfish at 19, not so much.
No worries Brassman, I’m just providing feedback, I don’t need the jelly now at lvl 19 but missed out on purchase / earn and would have loved to have it from 15-18. A lot of players have said the same to me. Considering it’s a token ship at higher levels, it may as well be given out with more events from lvl 18-19+, some players just want it after working so hard to get it but falling a few bps short.
I don't think i got mine till 17 everyone else just bought it the first time it was offered, so mine was basically worthless. by the time i got the resources to fully tier it up i was level 20 and it basically just ended up sitting in my hangar. the only time it came out was when i needed to kill some overloadedg2 miners quickly.
Same same, but with my NS too, missed both by a week or two(wrong levels) bought my northstar at lvl20, 1st time it rehit the shop... Very happy with it(but wished I had it at 1 8!!!)
Yeh I bought the NS 👍🏻 Scopely missed out on the jelly cash train as mentioned above 🤣
We just had a week of officer events, sucking us dry of exp, then you do this???
But I can fix that in store, right??? NO thanks $copely, shameless,... 👿
<@&509690795536941056>
I timed my leveling up progress (Race to upgrade operations event) to the hour and minute. Everything carefully planned to reach level 20 AND receive ALL the benefits (Spoke, Jellyfish, etc) with 10 minutes to spare
With the current server downtime, if it does not come online soon, and before the event's end, will have no choice but to demand a refund for the items purchased.
@frozen lodge you do know they do officer events constantly so you use officer xp.. it all goes on if you want to use it on that event or save it for another. Every day you have at least two officer events that are dailies than you add in the special ones. So instead of getting mad plan on how you want to use your xp in case of future events
Jailbreak was my rant, sorry to confuse, but yeah them too, thanks for reminding me🖖😇
@frozen lodge np. I feel your pain I learned early on to horde my xp for events I really really wanted to do instead of trying to do them all
Just not getting my cash... All done spent & it's only just begun...
I rarely spend since don’t have $20 anymore. Can’t afford to throw $50+ into a game like this one
I get the ranked & periodicals are bait, truly do, my rant is they extolled the virtues of jailbreak bein essential for armadas,? Now know why, strip all exp & send us to the store, shameless I say, shameless & it's only just begun...
The end of the f2p if they keep going this way... Folks just can't pay to play...at these prices,either...
@frozen lodge has been like this since release nothing has changed
Super dissatisfied with armadas! Wait a bloody year, hoping for a PvP alliance event type thing in armadas for it to be a pve bs thing , then settled my mind on lame pve, to get events that I can’t play unless I pay!, more Pay to play crap, like I get you need to make money and whales pay to be ahead, but another pay to play event is bs and puts me a t a spot where I need to decide if I should delete this flipping app and go play Mario cart tour more
you dont need to pay, u can get it for free...
if you have enough officer xp ship xp and time
If I do the daily that’s 200 cored a day 5 days the 1-2 days research time then the time to build the acc the events are over! @weak ocean so you tell me how that’s not pay to play
u dont need to pay to play, u can play it without spending money, but you wont be able to do the events
and as i said, join an armada of your ally, then exchange the reward for cores
there are several ppl on lcars which said, that you DONT need to have the ACC do participate, only to start
my buyers just came online and are checking the things
i cant test it yet
If that’s the case which we haven’t been able to do in game yet with ppl who have an acc, some one still has to pay to play the events
@weak ocean : so we could an armada without having the ACC?
thats what the ppl on lcars wrote
i will test it soon
waiting for my allies to arrive 🙂
This Event sucks. Starts with the lead up to the event, where you are required to spend the same resources you need to win in this event. The time for events is to short, it's not even worth doing. Armada is a major let down.
so, some1 lese started it, i joined and have to wait 15 mins till the armada starts
i dont have the acc yet
else
Yes you can join armada without building and get items to buy tokens from ally store @weak ocean
i know, several ppl didnt believe me, so i did post screens as a proof
joined 2 armadas, can get the research and the building now
22h cooldown on those pakets
Yep
lvl 27 reward
@winged axle If you get the reward.
Armada doesn't live up to the year people waited, and the events leading up to it screwed us over even more.
So how do you join an armarda if everyone you know is too pissed off to buy yet another pack so that they can play?
How?
@cunning cedar Better question, why join an Armada. If you are not the most powerful ship you wasted 15 minutes, for that 1 ship to take out a target "to powerful for one ship alone."
@winged axle From the event that the previous events set players up to not be able to complete?
From the officer and ship events that people just spent all their xp on in the last week in other events? Did noone think about the timing on this?
If you grind off exp from seperatists you can finish it @high zenith
And ship exp can be bought with lat
@cunning cedarI keep saying this to him.
Wonderful. If you have Latinum.
All of @winged axle resolutions fall flat. He just repeats them.
This whole thing was just badly thought out and launched in a bad way. Toss of the player base are very upset about it. Thars not the way to make money or keep players
@cunning cedar Yes.
Oh and by the way, you kinda need happy players who spend money or you have no game. I've spent money on ships etc but I'm not going to spend to play new content.
All that hype and build up and waiting for armadas and this is how you do it? I've spent a good amount of $ on this game and I even think it's a bunch of bull you didn't even try to hide the money grab this time went through all my officer and ship xp rss on the last events you just had now I need more for 200 cores a day 5 more days worth of xp to get and spend really disappointed with this bull crap you guys are pulling
you dont have to spend any money, just do the events and wait...
Let us spend officer exp in preparation for armada events is a 💩 move even for scopley.
Adding domination events to it is even more 🍆 move then i ever seen.
A perfect scam to push people to buy the new packs,the ferengi could lern from scopley
So far with the limited number of people who can join armada fights, it's a waste of time. Flying back and forth and waiting 10-15 mins for a battle to start just to find out you just wasted all that time.
Maybe I'll take a nap and come back in 3 months
So basically we're forced to mine 24/7 for a few weeks, then forced to fight reds for a few weeks and now we're forced to fly around hoping we'd get a chance to get something lol
for the love of god please turn off push notifications for armadas!
Why the 15 min counter. It's a waist of time, and others can Attack you. As soon as Armada leader has a full list, he should get an Attack button to start the Attack.
This way it's a waist of time, and i want my money back <@&509691205798592532>
@robust maple @weak ocean It's intentional, working as intended. Did you read the release notes, TheOne?
lvl 30 chest... not even 1 unc....
@prime gulch why is there no uncommon in the unc chest?
why do you get better rewards than a lvl 30?
Mine says I opened 2 chests but yours say 1? 🤔
@open dock Yes, but i expected an option to start Attacking when Armada is assembled, and not just sitting there being a target for other Alliances.
Not having that option is a big flaw in my opinion, and will let this fail.
@robust maple already asked that
I wish there was a way to turn off armada notifications every time you join unless you are top ships you it is a waste of time and every time you get a notification it just rubs it in
@winged axle nice, hope they're putting that in quick, because as it is now, it sucks.
Also, a lot of Outposts got patrol ships stuck on them.
And when using a Salladin, the game reports it as a win for a realta.
@robust maple can you send ss of the last part?
Will try
@shut tulip you can talk with your alliance and do it strategically so everyone can join the fight
@winged axle The screenshot. Im Attacking with a Saladin
@robust maple ahh will forward
Seems all ships are realtas in the message.
uncommon lvl 27 pack.... there rly can be unc
@winged axle hi, got a question.. i am ranked higher than other kumaris, shown in the picture, but i am always kicked out and commander grr takes my place... why?
@weak ocean are you Wansteen?
y
Then I see you in attack list which means you should attack if someone higher doesnt enter after you @weak ocean
hmm it seems th be a but in the list.
the battle log shows different baattle strength
only my strength is right in both pictures
Oh look🙄 Another ranked officer event, just in case some still has officer exp & hasn't started armadas yet... Shop is always open...🤪🤔
I did 2 armadas,first one got kicked after 15 min waiting, im so disappointed with armadas that going to decide tomorrow if is still sens to play this game
It's amazing how dews can design so many crap ideas,if this would be a non star trek game it would be dead long time ago
I suggest that the leader of a armada should be able to select who participates, not the strongest ships. Too many people get kicked off because others are greedy and either knowingly or unknowningly kick off the lower people who need it more
@cunning cedar yes mate, rooms full of people ironing out the kinks on getting us to dump everything we had into jailbreak, to send us straight to the shop, champ 👿
So Scopely making sure that only pay to play players can do the new armadas!
Either spend £99 on a pack or do the “event” to get the required parts! But you can only do the event if you have upgradable officer( or buy another pack) and upgradable ships(or buy another pack)
Scopely you are slowly turning this game into pay to play only and seeing as half your players are f2p........we’ll see if you can put two brain cells together and work that one out
you don't have to pay to do the armadas, just need someone to start it and you can join.
it's actually implemented really well, we are going down our alliance list getting everyone built up to do it.
I only had to participate in 3 armadas to get enough parts to do the research for the building myself
Sooo.... If no one in my Alliance has "purchased a pack"... How can we participate?
That's 61... F2ps wondering & that's just my Alliance...
This has probably been asked and answered... but when do the armada targets respawn?
I want to know too and so does my alliance
@oblique spear panic said in q&a they randomly move somewhere else after being killed, that's why we cant bookmark them
@oblique spear as soon as one gets killed another one spawns in a random location.
My server (20) has nothing spawning. There is 1 in thama and that is it. We have scoured every faction system. They need to spawn more frequently
well according to our CMs and content creators, this update is bees knees and any problems are the player's fault and give them more money. they also have forwarded any issues to the wastebin. and dont care
So, let me compare armada battles to raids in Pokémon go, 1 you get a specified area to raid, they both have a countdown timer beforehand, now here comes the differences, raids in Pokémon go allow 20 max, and doesn't boot anyone if someone else stronger shows up, then the raid itself, reasonable,and obtainable, if you win in Pokémon go, you get rewarded multiple useful rewards on the spot, plus you get to catch the Pokémon you were battling against in the raid, in stfc, you get a few credits, and nothing else, those credits aren't really useful, plus you get no immediate benefit for killing a station/base, change this, add credits to each station for winning, or rss or uncommon materials, plus allow people to grind for credits to promote officers, that they can't promote
This would encourage more people to participate in this event
the biggest problem I see is that this content will die off VERY fast if we are only able to play it one day a week. 6.5 day cooldown on the resource needed to start the armada? really? I hope there are going to be more ways to get them or a shorter cooldown otherwise this content will be a massive fail very quickly. its a shame because it' actually feels like "FLEET COMMAND" instead of a bunch of single players trolling about.
Why were Armadas set up to exclude players????
they weren't, they were set up for the most effective battle.
Of course they were dont be naive
you want to win you bring your best power, it's very simple. if you want anything other than that it's up to the players to decide who gets to fight.
They're setup, so people will level up
Not sit at level 14
@bleak moat
And to encourage spending from lower levels
Its elitist. Also, and I am ashamed to admit this, I have already spent like 60 bucks on this game that is at best worth 20.
it's midlevel content which has been sorely lacking.
the event is useless ... it is boring and does not give prizes to those who are below the power of the first 3 ... the rest of the alliance does not win, the event points do not arrive, truly a disaster
So, after a few of my team bought and upgraded, we got into groups and ran around killing armada
Within 1 hour i was making my own research and armada without buying the pack. Once i got upgraded, i took a few folks and helped them get theirs, etc. 5 hours in, and most of my alliance can summon armada.
This is still incredibly disappointing event. The hype was crap...really, 10+ months for this? Rewards vs time spent (roughly 20 mins from search, warp, wait and kill) is terrible.
We would be better off if armadas were still coming
Edit: pls add to notifications : turn off armada notifications. My phone is blowing up as my alliance are doing tons of these
Kaboom
Liking the new Armadas @scopely team, rolled out well and enjoying the new addition to the game play, much needed, but good for the game and credit where its due, so congrats, nice to see new content!
Ok my feedback on armadas... the idea is great... however, wait time is too long... 15mins is almost ridiculous... 2ndly, host should have the ability to select who from queue roster can actually join...
I have already seen many of my fellow alliance members lose it even though I've hosted 2 intentionally for said persons, all because someone else joined with a stronger ship...
Now the kicker, alliance directives... 1 claim in 7days from alliance store? And only other ways to earn them, is to upgrade acc or spend $100 USD for ultra station pack which gives all of a measly 250... really?
@dim tusk I am glad you shared your feedback with us.You are right 15 min is too long for me as well and I already forwarded it.About the players getting kicked I could be able to do it with a little bit communication.For example the ones who dont have armada building go with player N1,players who have building and doing it for fun/ecents go with player N2.About alliance directives you should be able to get 15 per day from daily milestone chests,but maybe new ways will added soon?
It costs me 100 directives alone to do 1... you wanted us to be engaged to love the new feature we've all waited for... I've hosted 5 so far and have enough left for 1 more today... all of my alliance is already screaming the hosts are running out of directives... @winged axle
I am also a player and having the same issue with yours.As I said new events for more directives can be added.
And all we can do is patiently wait
@winged axle I appreciate your sincerity... I have experience with many build games... and my one issue is always how fair is the in-game currency for events and such... e.g. if players are forced to pay for more of said currency with only minimal play, in my experience it always leaves a sour taste for both free and pay to play...
I do hope this is the one issue and the time at least they fix
@winged axle it would probably be fine as is if the cost of starting an armada was lowered to 50 or 25 directives and we got enough from dailies to do at least 1. that way everyone with the building could have a chance at doing at least one a day and enjoying the content even if they get booted from every other one someone else tries to do.
@mild glacier so either decrease the amount needed or increase the directives you get?
tiny bit of both would work, slight increase in daily, reasonable decrease in requirement. I don't think having the ability to host 1/day would be a bad idea.
all that work on what might be really nice content, it would be great if we could actually play it and not have it end up like augment space.
1 is still not enough for me.I would want at least 3 per day
Yeah and find some solution for smaller players getting some thing out of it. Like this it rather starts fights within alliances as only the top 5 players are important for it
3 would be nice, but given how stingy Scopley tends to be asking for just one seems more likely to happen.
@languid kayak lvl 23+ players can join it
Not restricted to T5 alliance
Ohh players
That can be solved with some communication between players
The funniest bit is that the event actually expects 12 armada fights a day. As the stronger players get more likely taken a lvl 23 player would need to start more than 6 armadas a day for the events 😛
@winged axle 23+ can join but in reality only 27+ can actually participate, lower levels get bumped out due to lack of ship power.
Have 2 groups,1 for fun and events and sec one for low lvls to get armada building
It worked for us yesterday
tried that still ended up a mess.people dont listen
language barriers
Yeah but very difficult without invites between over 70 players in an alliance other players and alliances attacking etc.
Also true
we've got a few frenchies in our group that don't communicate well
Goodle translate?
And not only that. A lot of texting and asking way too many who can be part of what where every day
translate kinda sucks, it doesn't always get words right and has no concept of sentence structure.
plus hard to do while playing game and not having access to a computer at the same time
Yeah in a chaotic and rapid chat with 70 ppl and google translate... and that every day and random response time.... sorry but there just needs to be a reasonable raid system as shown in many ways in different games. Invites proberbly the easiest. Or „fixed slots for certain players“
Armadas is a giant pile of steaming dinosaurpoo. And I'm being extraordinarily nice in my wording. Sure I can give more constructive feedback, but armadas is so terrible, I can't imagine that the devs are listening or that they care, because, if they cared, it would't be so utterly utterly terrible.
Also, still on a dead server. Scopely is murdering us and their game. What the hell? How do we get our server some new players.
@winged axle @mild glacier raises a point that I discussed with my son... the cost to start an armada given we only could buy 150 directives from store per week... should be more like 10 per hosting... as mentioned every 8hrs for event we have to get 4 completions to reach max level... and this event is supposed to be the new premiere platform for PvP raiding... with cost so high no one will ever raid this way in the foreseeable future as they will have exhausted their supply... defeating the whole purpose of this new function
...
@dim tusk I already forwarded the lack of directives and waiting for an answer 😔
Much appreciated @winged axle
Np 🖖
So, if you cancel an armada, you don't get credited back the directives spent. wth?
No @placid bear
don't know what to think about that
@placid bear Think that it's in line with scopley policy: Take everything, give nothing.
will there ever be another 'earn franklin' event? some of the lower levels cant participate in swarm sundays after leveling up and not owning one <@&509691205798592532>
Of course.Those events comes and goes sometimes @odd dock
I have leveled my Armada Control Center to level 15 so far, and the event has only awarded 1 point for the initial build. Anyone else having that issue? Is it a known issue, or should I submit a support ticket?
This armada BS is yet another event pandering to people willing to pay through the nose only. Thanks scopely!
Get the credits through events.
Only require one member to have the armada control center, the rest can join in when an armada is formed/called.
@winged axle One of my comments was missed....Device notifications for armada needs to be separate. I can have either NO game notification or ALL game notifications on android. Last night my phone was blowing up with Armada. I think we can all agree, that getting 100+ notifications during sleep is not necessary. It also clutters important notifications (shield down, base hit). Can you forward that to the devs?
Thanks. There is a ton to read above. I agree with the cost ($100 vs reward). its poor. Lack of free directives (hey if you want to tell players to not play this, sure...waste of 10 months of dev time). The 15 minute wait time is crazy. @winged axle
Yea, i am in the #4 alliance, with our top players being around lvl 32. Luckily tthe top power alliance on our server is relatively nice. Their one player, level 38 with 1.5mm ships (x4) can roll in and steam roll us in less than a minute. How is that exactly fun? @winged axle
🤷♂️
Leaving it here for prosperity 😬
From my perspective it's not a question of how many times you can start an armada. I started asking myself why i should do it at all after opening the first uncommon armada pack from the alliance store. There's no point in doing it when there's no event where you can get at least something in return for the time you need to spend on this. People will stop using directives pretty soon... just gathering them for the next event.
Why do I keep getting this event when I've completed this event once in the past?
Give me other events that reward jellyfish bps 😭
Attaching the acquisition of tactical cores to officer and ship XP spending is a slap in the face as a blatant cash grab. I hope you idiots drive your game into the mud as players flee your BS. #uninstallSTFC
Where can I see how many Armada guidelines I have/own?
Mega miner milestone event isn't giving rewards.
Server 153 isn't getting them either
<@&509691205798592532> confirmed with server 150 not getting the rewards for Mega miner
Server 14 not getting them either. The game crashes every time I hit the event icon
Have fed it back to Live Ops guys
@past fossil thank you 💕💕💕
Can we not have a 2 week bonus refinery and 2 day mining event this time? I won't get through the 1m of each g3 I've got in a 2 day event!
Why is Mega Miner final goal 50% more than before? Rewards havent changed. I have to mine 50k more g3?
Probably because you gained a level
i didnt gain any level. im not stupid
@past fossil....when will issue with directives be addressed?
After building ACC (one-time effect)....we can only gain 💯 directives PER WEEK and 15 PER DAY......, meaning we can only launch 🚀 2 Armadas per week....
Feedback already sent to the Design team about directives being sparse
And they gona ignore it like always 😉 😂
Is there really a design team?
I hope they sort it as it’s a real damp squib when you try your first one or two to learn how to do it then can’t do anymore
Really annoying and lots of unhappy players in my alliance
@tardy lagoon yes
@past fossil ...thx 🖖
They’ve had my Reddit post fed back and I know multiple Live Ops/Design have read it
Aswell we content creators videos being passed on too
So we will wait an hope 😛
Actual question: There is no content with Armadas. Why does the content creators team keep getting mentioned in various channels?
(No story. No anything. Just a small team on big target functionality.)
Content creators are people who live stream and make videos and so forth
Ok. COntent creation means non in game content.
They make content for / with the community - they arnt really affiliated with Scopely
Ok thanks.
This is ridiculous! They call it „Uncommon Armadas Pack“ - and not even one uncommon part in it 😡😡😡
It’s called that as Armada targets are uncommon hostiles. Nothing to do with uncommon materials. Apparently you have a random chance of getting uncommon materials in them though.
I'm in a f2p alliance, we cannot participate, how does that figure?
Advertised as "free to play"...?
No uncommon in uncommon chest what a scopley scam
@vale plume "fertig" literal translation?
So it's random chance
Uncommon doesn't mean there will be uncommon resources in there. It's a chance.
"Can contain" chance, so pray to your lucky stars
It's just the refinery 2.0
@vagrant topaz yes,rare mats
⬆️
Also think most of us would also like credits as well, for different factions
So after a full day of absolute chaos testing this content, the verdict is in. HUGE FAIL. My alliance wanted to like the content. we really did. and we tried hard. Unfortunately there's are several GLARING problems with how it's handled. Our server has discovered that the PVP banding is a MASSIVE negative aspect to doing armadas. a single level 39 player can wipe out nearly every forming armada in one swoop, making the content virtually unplayable. And that's exactly what's been happening. High level alliances and solo players are simply squashing anyone who tries which is making it extremely unfun. Top that off with the fact that you LOSE THE DIRECTIVES you used to form the armada. given the high cost of using them and the low amount we are given, this has resulted in a near complete halt of many people either able to, or trying to do an armada.
the lack of choice in participating ships has also created huge rifts in virtually the entire player base.
suggestion: since removing the pvp aspect from this content seems unlikely, at least refund the directives used if the armada is broken up due to pvp ship losses or something other than a lost attack.
Choice choice choice. Let armada leaders choose the participants. those two things would go a long way to improving the content
unfortunately Brassman, not much can be said now that hasnt already been said in the last 36 hours or so. the devs can either listen or this whole thing will die out. im just walking away from it at this point.
yeah i know, was just trying to put it all into one nice neat little spot.
don't know if this has been suggested, but for armadas: create a "join" button on the armada alliance page. Once all spots are filled, the armada is locked (greyed out)
It’s heartbreakingly bad. I’ve never once thought of leaving the game. But between this massive fail that is the Platoons rollout (zero content just some targets and crappy group attack mechanics and pricing), the long dead/closed off server and dwindling player base, year long bugs, year long disinterest by the devs in doing anything to improve the game including doing obvious things like opening the doors to the dead servers (so they don’t even care about 10x their income), it’s just heartbreaking, and I’m thinking about turning my back on this turd of a game I’ve been playing hardcore for 10 months.
Perhaps the disappointment wouldn't be so great if they informed us instead of "preparing us"... It's our money making them rich & we have 0 input... Draining us of the required "whatever" just before the event, to ensure we run to the "shop"... Sooo many examples, so little return... & now the long "foretold" bonus refinery is rorting us too, only 3 spins left, no wait, make that 2 now... Gee thanks $copely😍 way to kiss it better...
@frozen lodge yeah that was some serious douchebaggery they pulled on this one. used every event possible to drain us of everything we could use for this event.
Don't even get me started on the "shop".... You'd think they try to sweeten th pot by extending bonus refinery, or fix it full stop... I was afraid it was the end of f2p, might be the straw that breaks us all... Sigh
&I love this game, soo much potential... Gutted by greed
Gutted by don’t give a crap.
@vagrant topaz - Can I please ask how Armada is suppose to work ? you get your uncommon base and you go ahead setting up you fleet in my case 4 spots to hit the station. You then get your alliance to come along and join in but they are reserves. But then the battle starts and the 4 main ships gets destroyed as the base you are taking on is lets say 12mil in power and you only have 2 mil in ship power with the 4 slots, Why oh Why does the rest of the fleet not then engage as a primary ship gets destroyed a reserve ship should take up the fight. That is how an Armada would work
That way you stand a chance with your whole alliance in taking down a 12mil power station.
That’s how Armadas could would should work. This drivel is, at best, Platoons.
We need a team leader role brought in to the armada ASAP, this role will help solve issues with the armada. Hope this can be introduced quickly.
In addition our alliance in the main has stopped doing the armada until something is introduced.
This really has to be addressed, we are getting swamped by Armada's notifications. Please add a notification selection screen in settings.
BAST!! Someone in my OWN alliance just took my spot! Thanks for nothing SUCKLY
By power so, most powerful ships get in 🤷
Well thats good isnt it. Warp time taken up and for nothing.
Oof
Its not like the rewards are that great either. Only been able to do 3 armada battles since release
@modern urchin I've already made suggestions that host has ultimate control of armada and who can actually join
some people have, just gets buried under new messages, rip
As of now... it is an epic fail... which should have been the beginning of a new way to PvP base raid
Yes... and if the current format applies to base raiding... it is not going to succeed
tho armada pvp, i hope it ain't a few ships ganging up on one poor player's base...
Spy ever hit a base the same size as you?
i've never pvp'ed, only defended
Defending is easier than trying to hit a base of same said level
I am all for ships ganging up on a base, but I would expect the defending alliance also get a notification so they can defend it. Usually while attacking multiple ships take it in turns to open up the base. I can see an Armada formed of Faction miners stripping a base pretty quickly
Any new build is bound to have issues I just question the amount of play testing (if any) that has been done on the Armada update before rolling out.
Would make raiding a lot harder, but a lot more interesting as well
Considering how boring armadas are for everyone but the top 1% spenders, I don't see how there was much planning or testing for this except how to monetize it.
3rd day of no uc from uc chest. Seems like a very underwhelming prize for something that requires a large amount of flying around systems and waiting. Ship parts are useless without uncommon to upgrade with. Tactical cores are nice, they let you launch more armadas, but what's the point of even doing them right now? I'm basically running armadas bosses for ship parts and bit of common and ship or officer xp. This is endgame material that's yielding very low results.
For the love of GOD
Make these stupid Armada notice
STOP!!
@boreal canyon We suspect the "uncommon" chest operates on the same algorithm as the refinery. I got lucky and got a bunch of uncommon ore on my first pull, not so lucky on the second.
the tactical cores don't let you launch more armadas, they're only useful for upgrading the ACC.
Right, upgrading the acc gives you more directives though, which lets you launch more.
@modern urchin I can just see it now, 15 minutes warning of an armada attack on an alliance base. We'd all be livid that we don't get the same warning when a solo player attacks our base...or for that matter a notification when it DOES happen.
Right now its the best source of directives, after you're done upgrading I feel they will be in very short supply. The daily amount is very low. 15 I think.
yeah but it takes several upgrades to get enough for even one raid, so it's really not cost effective. would be nice if there were some directives in that uncommon chest too
for one more refine i think...haven't gotten a single rare from it. Big disappointment this week.
Gonna miss a chance to get my last event refinery by 1 minute. There must be a better way to do these events
@vagrant topaz I feel your pain
17 minutes? Practically a lifetime mate
Yeah giving 5 charges on the bonus refinery that expire in a week would be far nicer than a 48 hour expiry and 10h cooldown
Nice to see scopely taking all the feedback that we're bored with mining events and... I don't know, wiping their butts with it or something
This is the mining event with the bonus refinery we were promised. Stop complaining about everything. You have more credibility when you choose your battles.
Never seen so much complaining.
.. the bonus refinery which has ended already, as should have the mining.
So dont mine. You dont have to do the events. Scopely doesnt even have to provide events. There is a game underneath all these events. I like to play it sometimes.
I used up most of my raw for the bonus refinery anyway (like most ppl). I need to mine
Why!!! Why are we mining event with No Bonus Refinery!!! WHY ???
We just had it. Finished now.
A lot of people missed the start of the bonus refinery now that’s tucked into a new tab @prime gulch can we get another 24 hrs?
I think the question of why the bonus refinery for the mining event ended 24 hours before the event itself ended is a fair one
Thete was never any notice for the bonus refine. How are we supposed to know?!?!
@crude wadi did you read the call to arms info on the news bulleton?
Pfft, people don't read, pre rant.... 🤣😂🤣
Yeah, they gave the info a while back of the changes to the refinery they made
It also has a red badge on the Event tab in the refinery when the bonus refinery is active. Agree that it should have been available for longer though.
Yep, we all need. More uc
Because not all the menus scale properly per device, i only see half of the event tab and scopely puts the alert icon on the far right of the tab where i cant see it.
Call to arms event is being taken advantage of by some alliances, they are Notting and looting their own players to win the event, perhaps Scopely should extent the alliance cooldown from 8 days to 30 or so?
Booting and looting their own members
@weary dome it's 8hrs, and you can take advantage of them, by shutting down their raid, and hitting the base
Unless they're the top allaicne, or something similar which makes sense then,
Yep that are one of the top in the server
That's sad, to think top dogs cant afford to raid other allainces, that can't stop them
Yeh, pretty lame indeed
Now they are saying they only raided him coz he has a terminal illness and is quitting, hope that’s not true, but sadder again if that’s a fib lol
I mut have a device that got scaled, no red tab visable on mine...
I see they are starting to give out rare armada directives but I don’t see any targets that require them. Is there plans to add more Armada Targets???
@weary dome we had a member leave the game during the event due to life circumstances. on our server it's common practice to clean out the base of someone who can no longer play. The kicking and raiding during this event has been exploited by the top alliances in the past as well @open otter is correct in his assessment, we ended that practice by keeping track of their bases and jumping on them when they tried to kick and raid.
Why don’t i see or can get a northstar in shop? While i notice that other players can buy it? I only see the Franklin and jelly atm! Hope that Somebody can help me. Noticed that most questions about northstar are not being answered by scopely or helpers? I really need it now and are looking for it from lev17 till now 21.. help me!! 😁
By doing missions i did not find all the NS bp’s either
you can only get it when it's offered during special events
Some Threat From Beyond feedback: If you’re going to require us to defeat overpowered swarm for TFB Heroic events, make it worth our while and reward Frequency Modulators with the rest of the rewards. Tritanium and minerals are nice, but the FMs are tough enough to come by and rewarding them for these swarm missions would help significantly.
get to level 18, then you should see a offer @cursive sigil
I thought the daily October Reward was x2... Is it cancelled?
@open otter he's talking about the event rewards. modulators are tough to come by and we need tons of them to make franklin useful.
Was talking about the ns @mild glacier
oh. duh, i should have seen that.
@open otter Wasn’t me inquiring about the ns.
Oops, mb
Swarm event Heroic should have middle tier. At level 28, there should be 26-1 point, 28-3 points, 30-10 points.
Hostile hunt requirements are bad in general. faction hunts are backwards, we should have to hunt more of the lower levels, not the higher levels. and why the 2 level jump in requirements? it leaves out an entire level of hostiles every time and forces everyone int the same 3 systems constantly.
So you’ll buy bigger ships. Mobile games are money makers, by design. This is the design.
Swarm Sundays are a welcome break from scanning systems looking for an armada target! I spent 2 hrs yesterday trying to find one that wasn't already taken and gave up!! I also couldn't take part in any alliance raids since they were usually full before I could call dibs. Please update the number of people that can join them!! Armadas just pisses people off otherwise.
you think I'm going to buy any more ships in the near future ?
not in the state I have to play this game with constant crashes and lockups
@modern urchin steal armada's away from other alliances by killing it's leader ?
or assist your alliances armada's by defending them against others that try it with yours ?
why else would they allow you to place a flag, even if a station is already claimed ?
and swarm sundays blow, especially if you reached an ops level equal to a swam existance level
forcing you to kill 26's as mid range when you just reached ops 26
yeah, good luck
unable to complete daily due to error $$$ : not enough money spent ingame
Whats the point in killing an Armadas leader, the rewards suck so unless I am missing something and just want to piss off the other alliances on my server, honestly what is the point @gilded edge
I am level 29, and I admit when I first hit level 28, killing level 28 and 30 swarms was impossible. Now I have grown I can kill enough 28s in a stint to make the Heroic milestone in a few trips. I guess the real pain point is every other level when your targets jump by two levels. Needless to say, I am waiting before upgrading to ops 30. I need to upgrade my ships (including the Franklin) which just needs 1 more gun before I can Tier to 6.
the point is: this is a WARGAME
ppl complained there is no pvp part in armada, while there is, you just can't point armada's at other targets yet
It's silly at the moment to pvp over armadas, rewards aren't worth it and it's easy enough to pop leader at last minute that you just end up with no one able to complete and multiple sets of 100 directives lost
If it was possible to hijack an armada, or you got points for defending and queuing as well as actually fighting it might be interesting. But right now the uncommon rewards are bad enough to barely make it worth bothering even if it was easier to get credits
I just use my credits for cores to upgrade my ACC as I figure one day it will be useful to have it a high level
Anyone got list of how much core rate core you need from ACC31 upwards please
They spent a year creating armadas for PVP. And Armadas (come on, it's Platoons at best) is such a turd there's zero fun or reason to pvp over a target.
Platoons is only worth a week of R&D, don't listen to the 'a year' bullshite.
armada's is currently in it's basic form, the pvp mode you are actually all after will be launched at a later stage
probably to give the whales more time to beef up in order to prepare for it
I blame @vagrant topaz's picture, probably scared the big spenders, they rambled enough for scopely to take their wishes into account, afraid they would leave
My feedback, Boring as hell last days,give us hostile hunt
I don't care about events, give us a stable client to play on
Anything that gets me bps, faction credits, or uncommons. Couldn't give a wet fart for anything else.
then we can worry about using a stable client to play those events and such without needing to restart the game all the time on the most irritating situations
and please, don't gimme the 'it's an IOS /Unity issue'
it no longer is, and you know it
It's because they don't need stable game only the store, people buy like crazy and solong sales going nothing changes
I have plans I heard that have been tried before, but I will try it again with persistance
29-11, either provide a way more stable client, or vanish legally
I not believe that there is a team working to fix notification and shield drop bug,if so they should be fired, it's 8th months already
there is, but it's a matter of prioritie$$$$$
Nope there is not, all on holiday last months 😉 😂
again, I do not blame the devs, I blame the managers giving the devs orders
I noticed a new glich today what looks like planed to let people spend more cash on new packs. Outpost don't show other alliance start armada till you start one, then you have to fight or waste directives, so or so, one losse scopley win
I have wondered why alliances that really can't take the base away from us seem to start armadas 10-20s after we do, that could explain it!
That's dirty, and doesn't surprise me at all...
You should put that up in general discussion too
10-20s are explainable
try 3-4 minutes
in those 10-20s someone else sees the spot still unclaimed coz the other is busy starting it
Still, a confirmation 'someone has already started an armada here, are you sure?' popup would be nice
pvp factor
even if it's not worth it, sometimes you just don't want others to get points through stations
especially if you are at war with that alliance
however, it might use some changes
like NOT showing the armada leader to other alliances
it makes it too easy for the enemy to get it aborted by killing him/her
Yeah too often pvp ends in mutually assured destruction - never a clear winner just end up making sure they waste directives if they cost you any. Started a new alliance war as a result and playing much more as an alliance - it could be really good fun it's just the rewards suck and directives are too rare!
There need to be actual alliance rewards for doing them. They’re designed to be done as a group, yet all event rewards are solo only. It’s no wonder everyone is being so selfish over them. And I’m NOT talking about a leaderboard here so don’t even think about it.
Aliance's really do suck, the rewards are terrible, people are selfish, people complain they cant spend the credits quickly enough, I'm just ignoring them doing enough to get cores within the cooldown period thats it. Really, can you just make it so that if one is started another cant be started, but can be captured by the highest power fleet at the start of the battle or something. Give rewards to those who are not top of the power rankings. Cmon guys, #MakeArmadasGreatAgain
Again?
If people can't spend credits quickly enough they're hogging too many armadas. I've got the most powerful ship in the alliance and i can barely buy the common pack each day let alone cores, just because i won't invade the lower lvl armadas where the extra ship power isn't needed.
People hogging armadas is causing a lot of dissent within alliances apparently.
Needs a strong admiral or better teamwork to avoid.
So we wait 7 days for the Armada directives to come active again, Spend 250 alliance credits and you get 100 directives and that is it. What a tight arse set of developers
Presumably some will be available by other means ($£$££$££$$£$£)
Yep, just like those tick bps, you know, that ship meant to makes things easier for f2p?
Scopley only half listen to event feedback.
Threat from beyond leader board is still not level banded.
1 Damage Dealt to Swarm Cluster | 1 Point....only top big players will rank high.
Atleast this time instead of only 10 ranks there are 100 ranks.
Still room for improvment.
This is why we need an event calendar. What about those players that completed the Swarm dailies before the event? How is the alliance going to benefit from already collected Swarm Biominerals?!
Your replicator rebate events are absolute crap. They are basically useless unless you make the top tier. Why not spread it out among the other tiers to at least make doing some of it worth it?
seriously? 3 crystal rebates in a row? don't you have other uncommons, like ore or gas? Used all my crystals after I had missed the first one, thinking now there will be a rebate of other and the same happened after second crystal rebate. Scopely for sure knows crystals are the rarest of the three and hence keep running the same rebate to push players to store. Disgusting to say the least.
At least split the events page into different tabs.
[EVENTS][EVENT STORE][EVENT RESULTS][UP COMING EVENTS]
You already have the ability to show events starting in 5 mins.
Why not expand that functionality to show events starting with 5 to 24 hours notice depending on the event.
Very annoying not having something like above or as others suggested a calendar.
I just spent rare crystal 2 hours before replicatior rebate.... le sigh
Thanks scopley to put all players into ranked event, you guys listed to all our feedback, please continue the amazing work. (sarcasm)
Every day you put people to quit play, not even whales stay if servers get empty, but guess this game is finished till Xmas time to look for alternatives
How the heck are we expected to "compete" when the best keep getting the best(which they don't need) & the rest get less, to keep em in their place, last
Rorted once again crooked game, just give the whales whatever they want, whilst we starve from want... 😓😓😓
Hey Scopely how bout instead of gearing this for the whales gear it for us little people
Oh you mean how rank 1 is great, ranks 2 thru 5 are barely fair and the rest are hardly worth looking at?
How about blocking the whales for a while and let us little guys that can’t afford to pay for this shit as it is supposed to be f2p catch up we the little guys cannot compete with the rich fuqers so how bout it @scopely
Lol. it's not supposed to be f2p, silly ftp sheep.
@night jay this is why:
Anyone else seeing a big drop in mine rate this am?
These rates you mean? @astral galleon
They should band this event to Ops level, no way am I going to make top 100 since I can barely kill one level 30 swarm (using two ships) for the Heroic solo. I do think rewards need a little tweaking, since the people that dont spend £$£1000s do need some kind of carrot to stick around, after all, without krill the whales will die.
see my previous response as reference, as long as they spout plenty, nothing is gonna change, if the krill die out, they simply merge servers to get more krill combined
Thankyou $copely, for the extra shards but I would much rather have the refinery produce UNCOMMONS & RARES 10x it's "bonus rate" during "bonus" & bonus rate during Normal gameplay & a bonus refinery Every Single Mining event
A free chest? Where? I didn't get jack and this chest is laughable make those credits 10k each and maybe... that will be useful.
Oh wait my egregious 50 uncommon and 4 rare i got from having maybe 100k rss in total disqualified me.... another reason to start considering another game.
Dear $copely, "commons" are NOT a reward, they are the bi- product of our "broken refineries inability to produce sufficient uncoms & Rares", to offer only the top 25 players "rewards" & stacking the net 75 players on entire server with junk is pitiful at best, slipshoddy no effort or thought tack on useless garbage show your complete disconnect & disregard... Shameful as your resource raid this morning👿👿👿
@frozen lodge I don’t even bother with the damage event. I’m not gonna play 24/7 in hopes of a few uncommon. I’ll spend it on something with more value.
Dvor and Armada just released and they only get a week of events but swarm and augments have gotten Atleast a month of events.
When is $copely returning all the rss I've reported lost due to their glitches, got about 15 tickets pending n that very subject?
My point being, I lose rss, bad luck can't do it, they lose rss its"hands on heads, assume the position, we are confiscating everything that looks like ours", same day!!!
That's why this has me so annoyed, all the times I've had a 'sorry we can't do that' response from support, yet as soon as an issue affects their bottom line..
They can definitely do it but if it hurts them, their not gonna do it. Their philosophy of customer service is to make sure the customer is not right and definitely not satisfied. Take everything from the customer and give nothing. @wet vale
Hopefully they'll shortly learn that if you give nothing you get nothing!
are you sure? because based on their profits alone the opposite seems to be true.
And the mods here work for them voluntarily. I hope they at least get in game unc and rares or something.
They don't.
Regarding the Franklin event, it says that there are 《no limit missions》starting in Elona. However, I see no such missions there. Is it normal?
Have you done them already?
Probably...
then they won't be there now.
But they should be 《no limit》?
Maybe the whale who wins this don't have kang or a brel(it's possible!!) & I sure the next 24 people would luuurve the uncoms, but t next 75 peeps get STOOGED, commons ARE NOT A REWARD!!! Our busted refineries produce an ABUNDANCE of commons as a bi- product of its inability to produce uncoms & Rares... Reward us with something we CAN'T Make ourselves!!! Insulting faces slaps make peeps BITTER
Good rewards, but not good how the lb is handeled
I would love that at 26, but maybe change the bps to d3 and bracket it
terrible rewards, only the #1 spot gets the bps and officer and the rares and the token, the next 24 get only uncommons everyone after that gets stuff they can easily acquire already.
Maybe a super-elite leaderboard for the top 10 on each server and one for everyone else? Top 10 would probably enjoy competing against each other and everyone else has a decent chance on the other.
Just a thought
Last event was so wonderful ... after one year of waiting at least Armadas 😍 so wonderful so well done ... so 💩💩💩💩
And right after that they handle that little refinery bug with so much professionnalism and care for the players 😡😡😡
Seriously I wonder why we are loosing only 4 players and 10 more are planning too within the week end ^^ even our bigger spenders are quitting right now.
Meh at least it wont be hard to merge a dead server 🖖
Server 143 is now officially dead. Thanks for nothing scopely 🖖
Hi.
Once again how come there are no missions into the Elona system while there's an announcement about it?
Is the Franklin event for players who didn't run those missions only?
If you’ve already done them they won’t be available. Standard mission behaviour, except for the odd glitch now & then.
The announcement speaks of 《no limit》missions. I know my English isn't perfect but doesn't that means that you can run those missions unlimited amount of time?
No.
Well in that case that's... I won't say it to stay polite. It's like giving away a chest to unconnected player: perfect advertisment for not playing the game.
@hollow cave if you mean this announcement, it specifically mentions the missions being needed to upgrade the Franklin. Says nothing about obtaining it anywhere. So if you've done most of the missions but don't have the ship yet, you have the upgrade components, you just can't use them....
I agree it sucks though that they have not provided a way to get it for free again.
Yep I mean that one.
You'd think they'd of made at least half the BP's for the ship available in this event given that most people have over half already.
Your welcome
Would be nice to get the Franklin. All this research options in the Galaxy tab that are a complete waste without it. Especially since you have to go past the Franklin upgrades to get others which are useful...
Good luck as far as I can tell I'll never get the Franklin because scopely is greedy and won't put weekly or monthly quests to earn the parts seems only way to get it is to wait till the store randomly offers to let you spend money to acquire the Franklin. Same thing with other ship like the farengi miner or the Jellyfish. Unless your a wallet warrior you will never compete in this game.
I have been 17 parts away from a Fraklin for months.
You you're not missing much, even if you do manage to get it for free you find out very quickly that it's useless until very high tiers and it takes forever to grind the parts for upgrades, so you're stuck neeing to pay there too.
$copely farming the $tar Trek licence... but they've got one item at least working right: the universal tran$lator. You can pay in $, Euro$... 😂
Why is there swarm events if you can't get franklin bps???
Your answer is just in the previous post, sir 😂
Are there ever Premium Recruit events, or just Ultra Recruit events?
@low dock there have been some in the past yes, but they are rare.
@buoyant tulip Thanks
These events suck. Not even worth doing
Looking like this game is for big spenders only. None of my ships are even over 200k, people 8 lvs below me have over 250k ships all cause they bought blur and green 3*&4* shit for like a month straight spending at least 1500$ to up grade. Cause you can't get blue or green anything unless you buy it like that.
And events are only won/ ranked by the rich.
Armada my azz. 1-7 ships is shit In. A box.
It takes 12 ships to make an Armada minium
And you can't even get 7 unless you get to lv 50... Why bother with it at all.
So far I see this game as less playable every day.
@hybrid marshstop playing
@(BD)battlestone# you obviouly leveled up way too fast. I have 1 ship at 250k and another at 270k. Im only lvl 24 and free to play. You might want to start over with a new account.
i'm not sure why people keep saying an armada requires a minimum of 12 ships. It doesn't. by definition an armada is any fleet of warships and a fleet is simply a group of ships, a group can be as little as 3, therefore and armada can be as little as a 3 warships. The Armada de Molucca for example was a fleet of 5 ships that Magellan set off to circumnavigate the world with.
Where can I find out information about upcoming events before they start? Learned that you can’t contribute towards alliance events or get rewards from alliance rewards if you join an alliance after the event starts.
Why do you keep advertising officer shards as event rewards but consistently NOT give officer shards in event rewards?
Officer shards as rewards if you place #1 in leaderboard usually
@native summit that seems counter to what we have been told in the past. If you contribute to an alliance event after you join the alliance you should get the rewards.
@native summit had a player contribute to an alliance event, leave our alliance to go on a brief walkabout, then return only to discover no rewards .. you have to contribute between the 'join alliance' time and the end of the event.
Sounds like you might have had a little salt in your socks at some point Brassman? Peeps forget Startrek has always been proud of its saltwater heritage 🍺
@tribal ravine we just tested it with the swarm event. We recruited a number of people with franklins (after the event started) to help us win the event. They completed daily swarm goals but they did not count towards the event and got nothing at the end.
@tribal ravine have to agree with @native summit I left my alliance to go help another one do armada's so they could unlock the ACC, returned to mine after the event started, maybe a day or so in, still had 3 days to go. It did not record any biomineral contributions I made for those 3 days and I got no reward when it finished with my alliance in 3rd place.
Messaged support who of course said you have to be present when it starts. But we don't get told when they are coming so go figure. That's 2 biomineral events I've missed out on alliance rewards from now. Though the 1st time was a different circumstance it had the same lack of result.
bah, that is frustrating indeed. Either recent events have different characteristics wrt this problem or I misunderstand what I recall from the past. either way, condoleces on your missed awards. It seems the time to switch alliances is in the middle of an event your current alliance has no hope of doing well in. nothing to loose at that point 😭
I have found out from scopely if you don’t earn an award from solo portion you don’t get alliance awards.
@buoyant tulip it's been that way for a long time. It's not hard to figure out when a new event is going to start, just look at the long timer on the current event and plan your moves accordingly We've rarely ever been told what event is next in line so it's all up to you if you want to be ready for whatever may come or continue to help your fellow players. One way or another if you jump groups you're going to lose out on at least one event.
Yeah I know, just my luck that it's been the same event twice. Could of really used those modulators. If I'd known it was going to be a swarm event I'd of stayed put till afterwards. Probably. Maybe. I dunno.
Please stop with the global leaderboards, there's no point in even having them.
Agreed. Completely pointless.
@hybrid marsh, I agree with @crude wadi. It sounds like you leveled too quickly and/or you invested your resources into the wrong things. I'm level 27 with a Kumari over 300k and haven't spent a cent. You can even have Scopely verify that.
I think it's ridiculous when players say the game is for spenders.
it's not ridiculous, the game is in fact designed for spenders. That's why the refinery sucks so bad and drop rates for officers are so bad and no one can get badges etc, it's all designed to frustrate you into paying for advancement.
At the same time though, you can play completely free and have a good time at it, you just have to be very efficient in how and where you spend your resources. you'll always be vastly outclassed by the whales and other payers, but you ust keep pulggin along the best you can. eventually their progress slows down as well and you begin to get to a level when you can at least hurt the high levels.
Hey nice bait and switch. Yuki for sale for $50 in store, she reduces shield 10%/turn. Might get a guy all excited. But in her officer profile she only does that per round.
Scopely's predictable response after you pay $50 or more and don't get what you pay for? "Sorry, too bad, we don't see that in our records, never happened, you still got the shards, do let us know if there's anything else we can help you with."
Warum bin ich mit Level28 in der selben Rangliste beim Miningevent wie Spieler mit Level30 und mehr, die Fraktions-Frachter besitzen? Das ist unfair und unmöglich zu bewerkstelligen. Ich Mine seit gestern Abend mit 4 Schiffen und den entsprechenden Offis - und bin weit entfernt von einer Belohnung. Mehr kann ich nun wirklich nicht tun.
@tardy lagoon how is that bait and switch? turn and round can be used interchangeably.
@mild glacier There are two turns in a round.
So the Yuki shards for sale look like it's twice the value.
@crude wadi lv 23, and my ships need blue 3* to up grade and I haven't seen any since the beginning of the game except in $ store.
At lvl 23 you will be very lucky to find any in event rewards or from the refinery. They most certainly do exist though.
This latinum mining event blows, firstly I am not willing to spend £20 on a crap ship that takes forever to upgrade to a point it can even reach the mining nodes without scotty, secondly there is no way, out of an active server of 3000+ people I am going to get even close to top 10, and thirdly even if I did make rank the prizes for doing so are pathetic. I just did my solo mining event for the Par tokens everything else is futile
Wow...3000 actives...our server this event...87 actives lol
Bonus Refinery Every Single Mining Event!!!
Or better yet...never mining “event” but bonus refinery a couple times a month
@ripe elm Isn't is utterly sad that A. scopely is happy to let your server (and a lot of others) dwindle and suffocate and die and B. they don't even want to make more money so they keep new players out? WTF??
B. R. E. S. M. E...... Bonus. Refinery. Every. Single. Mining. Event...!!!
Personally I just want the refinery cool down times to be reduced; bring back the refinery bug for everyone
But then scopely punish you for their mistake and call you egregious. Grubby grubby
three question/feedback for the event today:
- Please confirm, in the slim chance to win a full ship unlock, that the event would avoid giving them bp for the ships they already have.
Personal Example:. I have antares, valkis, saladin, cent, intrepid... who wants a 2nd when i am struggling already to upgrade what i have. I would be as useless as giving me a full horizon. I already have bps to make 6 more (have2).
- Is faction bound? Or can I earn bps of any faction? like it was possible in early days of event store.
Personally i am 4.3M faction fed rom, klin -2M... i wouldn’t mind a Bortas or Brell.
- is it level bound?
For example to have any chance of enterprise one needs to be ops 34 10M faction? Or is the cut off lower? For example ops 33 with 5M.
After 20 armadas I only have 20 rare armada point. And need 200 to do one rare station. And need 3 rare stations for one cooldown. So maybe three months work for maybe one chance of not getting a ship. Lol.
@obtuse wraith nope, equal chance for all ships, not based on your faction standings (unconfirmed still), if you see it inside the pack you can get it, as of now we still don't know what lvl players have what in their packs
Not many people have come out with their ss from APAC servers
@oak depot the events have not yet started, we can't make such assumptions
I click on rare base and that's the cost. Just stating what it costs to start a rare armada.
The cost is real, but we still don't know how much rare Armada directives will be available and from where @oak depot
Yes we do. $178 packs on the store ???
Rare armadas are not only for payers.
Yeah you will probably get 5 rare directives a day from chests if we are lucky. I'm not even getting the uncommon ones anymore. Sent a ticket in this morning about it.
How can we get the rare directives? Any why so expensive to do an armada?
cheers havana
@vapid shoal
⚠ but in the Chest I cannot see the Rare Directives... (yet?) maybe they forgot to display them there... so you have "to believe" in the description and try it out XD
Dieses 💩 Event ist für den ... erst wart ihr bei pay to win und nun bei pay to Play. Merkt ihr es noch?! This 💩 event is for ... first you were at pay to win and now pay to play. Do you still remember it ?!
So if you’re on cool down from just before the maintenance you can’t do the rares today at all, good job Scopely 👍🏻
@vagrant topaz “Rare armadas are not only for payers.”
Stop telling lies. Come on now.
@nobbster#9866 thks. I saw that info but nothing in the visualisation of the chest. I must wait until the cool down to open it👍
I am looking at it... And just... I hoped... I really did... 
I don't think I have ever posted in here, But this event really bothers me.
I am spender on my server, but when I saw the potential rewards from the rare armada chests I really hoped they would not offer them through the pay store. The gap between f2p and spenders is already big enough, and now your widening that gap by giving the spenders a way to obtain rare and legendary bps of all faction ships while f2p players will be able to call a single rare armada every... what.. 7 days if uncommon packs and chests go your way?
So what’s the deal here? They brought back armadas as expected but now it’s completely unplayable? No uncommon armadas anymore, only rates, and in the week since armadas were introduced not one person has gotten enough rare directives to start even one. There’s no visible way to get more directives either. I didn’t think this could fail worse than the initial release but I guess scopely proved me wrong.
Ha ha, I really dont see the point in buying rare directives. I mean if I top my leaderboard i get what 4 EPIC Kirk shards that I cant use without officer badges.
agreed.....I want to see the odds of getting stuff.....for example....what are the odds that I will get x45 uncommon for spending rare armada tokens via the alliance store? The rare directive pack (in the game store) itself is terrible in terms of items I'm getting in the pack versus the cost to get it. Im not against spending...I assure you of that...but this looks like a basic money grab event to me.
@mild glacier "So what’s the deal here? They brought back armadas as expected but now it’s completely unplayable?"
That's the deal.
@tardy lagoon oh good, so 2 events in a row that we can basically ignore. Scopely’s on a roll!
Yep. Fun to throw tomatoes at. Rotten tomatoes. Better than it deserves.
@tardy lagoon so while everybody else is chasing their tail time to bank speedups, nail dailies, and prepare for the ones you can excell at because you got all your other ducks in a row done w/out worrying about extra effort towards events, eh?
Soooooo... how absolutely pissed do you think people would get if we just started running around breaking up any rare armadas we saw? I mean it’s so easy, you can see who the leader is, you just wait till the last minute and BOOM! $100 wasted!
@tribal ravine exactly.
@tribal ravine LOL wut? That doesn't even make sense.
I'm really tempted. Especially since some on our server think its great sport to 'pew pew blue' .. but my leadership of my alliance attempts to show the server there is a kinder way to play. That kindof falls outside our circle of positive game play...
@tribal ravine I think you're trying to accuse me of something, but....?
@tardy lagoon if you're not chasing an armada you can do daily hostiles, bank speedups, get mining done, you know .. you in theory don't have 24/7 to play so the time you do spend you can save up for the next event to be better able to slam dunk it
Right. Yes, skipping turdmadas is best use of time.
@tardy lagoon I responded to @mild glacier you just happened to throw tomatoes inbetween his comment and mine. I kinda glossed over it no offense. 😉
So we are all in agreement. Excellent! Take that scopely!
Pffft. As if scopely has ever looked at the constant ragestorm in 'their' discord.
They have rose colored glasses! Moderators and community managers get to give them our rage hate in small smoonfulls they can swallow in the form of feedback that they consider and whether due to logistics of developers already slotted into projects or purposeful delay manage to get some really cool things done (who here appreciates the chat rotation! especially since it helps fix the stuck notofication bug.., or the warp to mine hide under vs attack and loose a 7d shield fix???) albiet with a bit of a delay.
Sadly. But once again $copely hides something good behind a paywall.
@faint vine What do you mean 'something good'?
I kinda like this armada thing. It bonds us as an alliance. And the rare gave decent rewards
Think you work for scopley, no one else would say something like that
paid actor
Nah he's right, if it didn't take a month to get enough rare directives to launch an armada and 4 armadas to buy a pack and if the event wasn't just a day long to launch 5 rare armadas, then this wouldn't suck
If i could do a rare every few days and get packs every week or 2 then this would a be nice extra way to try and get ship bps, but the amount of time taken now makes the event completely pointless
So far every event has been like this, payers get an advantage, and the rest of us try to keep up. This isn't the first time this is happening. So nothing out of the ordinary.
We, the players,would like to meet the person or persons who can up with this Armada concept.
We, the players, would like to ask them how do they still find employent at scopely dreaming up an event some would consider less exciting even than a mining event?
We would like to know how this Armada event got approved?
We would like to know exactly how and why a 'click a wait' event made it into a MMO game platform that has a huge amount more potential than is currently being explointed.
We would like to know why events like Armada are designed to completely extinguish excitement, bypass charisma and exclude even the slightest hint of imagination in design!?
@scopely - we have question we would really like to understand.
So there is an Armada event but there are no armada targets to be found except for ridiculously hard one or broken bugged ones that you can’t even target. We also have to pay double the amount of directives for a rare target and the credits that drop have been reduced.
@hasty rover as a certain friend of mine said... I would slap them with a fish until they respond.
@dry shadow they are there, but people are killing them a lot, so search more
Lol, I’ve searched for an hour at all of the systems and only find baby ones or really big ones. @vagrant topaz
Perhaps it would make sense to increase the spawn rate during a special event? Or would that not make sense?
It will in no way hurt the company. It would probabaly make them more money if they would wise up
It would make sense, but they aren't asking me... If they were I wouldn't have the urge to slap them with a fish....
This game could be so much more if they actually read what players really wanted and took that into account when they do these types of releases. Someone shouldn’t have to dump thousands to participate in these events. The rewards are pathetic too.
Oh I agree entirely. 50k of parsteel... Huzzah... Nope. Terrible.
Where the hell are the red pawns of rare armada targets?!?! There has been zero that have respawned since the popped up this morning!!!! How are we supposed to complete it if they don’t show up????
I normally try to see both sides of these things but this is a poorly planned release. At least give people enough rare directives beforehand, or as part of the upgrade to do 1 rare armada. But to launch it without any way of participating bar spending money is just a sure fire way to piss people off and ruin any interest for the feature.
They would have to have planned it to have it be 'poorly planned'. This was put together in 5 minutes and not fact checked/balanced/thought out etc.
It's embarassing.
You would think that with the amount of planning, design, coding etc that goes into a new feature they’d be excited to let people try it out and see what they think, but no. I find that aspect hard to understand.
That's because you're under the false impression that three's some amount more than 'a tiny minimum amount' of planning, design, coding, etc that went into this.
Augment actually had some. I liked augment. There was some story, etc. Turdmadas is...just bad at all levels including no story. How lazy and uncaring can you be to say 'new enemies/threats like never before' and provide nothign but names on targets. Ohhhhh...slave markets! And federation outposts, and.... yeah, weak sauce.
I wish to submit a suggestion that if your armada is cancelled by the game your directives get returned. I actually started an armada not realizing there was someone else there with one already started. Only during events do you get compensated for starting an armada. Under normal circumstances you lose directives period.
Screwing the players over is intended gameplay. Please insert life savings.
So you took garbage and put it into a really expensive vending machine/slot machine. Why? The is quite possibly the most nonsensical move scopely has made after all the outrage at the initial release.
and being able to get ships you already own? what a joke. just ensures that i will never buy one cause of the chance ill get it again later
those rewards should be in the initial armada chests, not locked behind a whorewall.
Whorewall. Lol.
$50 for 30 minutes of play? no one else made the connection?
cant say i have ever priced one...lol
it's a movie cliche.
ah sorry
@compact bluff it's only good for free to plays, and getting a few uncommons, at least they are guaranteed this time
i mean...i guess? you will get 1 rare armada chest every few months as f2p
rare armada targets have a small fraction the credits reward that uncommon targets have, will take 5-6 kills to have enough for even 1 rare chest
if not more than that
True chest can be worth while, but it's a bs event, because of how long it takes to get rare directives
Did get this
And that's the only chest I've been able to open
how many rare targets did that take?
So if we manage to break up both of someones rare armadas, is that considered a mugging?
or theft?
or what?
I mean, you've essentially cost them $50 and they got nothing for it
its actually 20 bucks
per armada
so yeah that would probably end up making you their permanent target
Ican see the lawsuits already
😂 oh the fun times 🤣
@BeyondTheStars#9316I'm f2, lvl 25, I have 110 rare armada dirts, 0 this morning,... Be nice if I could get those, here's mine "unobtainium" (can already build 2 kumari) & unless a bunch of whales invites my Alliance on rare armadas, can't see chance of opening any this event
The chest rewards increase by level but the cost to open a chest increase more than the extra stuff you get is worth. Honestly Armadas are the biggest disappointment since Brexit.
Actually I think these chests are very worth it. A single rare target of sufficient size can net you enough to open a pack. At my level it’s offering epic bps for all faction ships, each of which costs 1200 faction credits.
All this does though is irritate me more though. I think access to these chests for f2p players would be a move in the right direction by scopely, help them find a way to obtain bps for ships beyond the kumari.
But with how they set this system up, where literally rare directives are beyond a pay wall (sorry but saying that they are “free” is a technicality when you can obtain at max 15 a day....) means the bigs just get bigger and more unreachable while f2p players who really really need this get shunned.
I need events where I can reasonably earn uncommons. October has been a serious slow down in an already super slow progression. I need my activity level in game to be rewarded with growth. But events that are paywall blocked or frought with issues of pvp bullies (I'm fine with pvp; I'm not fine with having no way to fight back) or events that just don't have meaningful rewards ... actually don't create interest in the game; make me less interested
Just upgraded 2 ships , and didn’t get any points in ship upgrade event ? I’m not even on the score board as it says “ not entered yet “ !!!!! @scopely
Spent a lot of ship xp and latinum ... all for nothing it seems ... event stil runs for 2 hours
Yay I have the sum total of 20 rare directives. Only another 180 to go before I can do a raid, hoping I don't get ganked by a griefer only to open a chest with 20 uncommons (my ship needs 500 per module FFS). I would probably may for micro transactions if it gave me a good play experience but £100 to do 5 rare Armadas is just laughable. If it was £5 for just the 1000 rare directives I would probably consider it, as I am sure many many others would too. Who are you aiming this game at? Millionaires? Single people? who knows!? I guess I am not your target market, then again, I am not sure who is?
@prime gulch @cobalt elm Need to make Armada's a first come first serve system. Bigger players constantly bumping out smaller players is a thorn of contention. Additionally the person who starts the Armada should be able to bump a repeat offender.
Dear Devs! What is chance for a new 'run to lvl20' event? I missed the last and now just waiting on lvl 19. thx.
@astral galleon Scopely wants it that way. They want alliances to work together etc (or suffer and get mad). That way more armadas are needed, so they're hoping it will start pvp fights over armada targets.
Which is retarded. But hey, that's scopely.
And that's why at least 16 alliance s on my server ain't bothering with armadas any more. And at least 50 of my 62 members don't want anything to do with them. And none of us are ever going to spend money on the game again.
@tardy lagoon Whatever they wanna do, but it's going to make top admirals like me and top alliances like mine hate this event and them all-the-more and reduce our play time and spending. I mean they had a year to get this right.......
then why rush into it, why not skip it, save up directives, and know that event will return again
Because it's a shit event.
skip it? dont care about it...
or the option you currently choose...
https://tenor.com/u780.gif <- it will end like this
@dry shadow This isn't intended behavior. Please don't share these details here.
Oh yeah? Where do you report people cheating?
Better to make it public than hide it from everyone
If you conceal it, the problem doesn’t get fixed. It’s like you’re condoning it
In game support is best.
In security research, it’s considered appropriate to notify the developers and give them an opportunity to patch before making vulnerability public.
Game support? We have that?
But that’s an interesting little exploit and seriously hope no one tries it
Yeah to to FAQs and there’s a contact button in upper right corner. Maybe I’m just lucky but always had great results when contacting support in game
Just want to give SCOPELY around of applause for the great events this month.👏👏👏
You have really outdone yourselves time to 🥳🎉🎉🎉🎉
While the rest of us 😴😴😴😴😴 from all the fun were having
@dry shadow oh do tell again! i missed juicy tidbits
I've seen the exploit too, watched it for hours last night
it's definately being abused like crazy
<@&509691205798592532> this needs to get shut down immediately! It's on par with the refinery glitch.
@mild glacier what is?
the armadas exploit, watching it happen again right now
I went looking and took less than 5 minutes to find
@past fossil that's good, don't want it getting out more than it already has. it's been reported.
@mild glacier it’s the same exploit that was used on the separatist event. They deleted my message which makes no sense. Why hide the fact that there is something wrong? Make it public knowledge so you do something immediately to fix it.
The funny thing is, it’s the same exploit being used that has been common knowledge for over six months. I can’t imagine why it would seriously take that long to fix the issue considering all of the new content that has been released since then? Or Perhaps fix the game first before adding more glitches and bugs? Putting a rug over that plate of spaghetti you spilled on the floor doesn’t make it magically disappear.
I submitted the cheat do in game “support”. I can’t wait to see what the response will be.
I didn’t realize that is was related to something that’s been around that long... that’s shameful
yeah it's been around since the first sep event
@mild glacier what does it do?
@open otter plainly, it’s been giving big spenders a huge advantage on manipulating leaderboards so they easily place first every time. It also creates huge advantages to the alliance leaderboard events. Just by adding all of those events rewards earned equals an enormous amount of resources and materials that are gained from cheating. Even by fixing it now, months and months after the fact, every other player has been given a disadvantage. It’s taking away any hopes for equality.
Oh, so some nice bs that I actually didn't know about
it's been exploited like crazy on my server. we've reported people for it numerous times but nothing is ever done cuz they're whales.