#💬-events-feedback

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peak glen
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If this isn't a sign of how starved for content the player base is, then I don't know what more can be said...

slim tundra
wet vale
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This was utterly predictable and preventable.

nocturne knot
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This event is just plain silly... Why, oh why, would you make it so the same system had the kill 30 hostiles (2x 30 kill quests so far, haven't made it through the quest line yet), and have it be the "starting" system too yet?! Let us kill the hostiles, who cares what system they're in? I've gotten one done, working on the second one, and I've attacked reds probably 50 times, gotten 4 kills because the lag and whatnot is just so terrible right now and the system so congested. Not exactly a new problem, but it keeps happening and it's very uncool

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@vagrant topaz you have to be able to get a ship in system first 😂 But, I saw you, didn't witness the purge though 😛

peak glen
thick robin
nocturne knot
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@peak glen congrats! progress on the quest-line a bit and you get to come back and kill 30 more!

peak glen
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You've got to be f-ing kidding me...

nocturne knot
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not even a little bit

peak glen
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Yeah I think I'll come back at 6am est... ✌ Andvaris!

vagrant topaz
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This is so retarded

peak glen
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Oh the frequency modulators? At leas those can be grabbed from outside Andvaris, correct?

high obsidian
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Trying to kill 30 hostiles in a full system on a new event is kind of a bad idea.

nocturne knot
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@peak glen keep going... you're almost there 😂

peak glen
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Oh..

untold osprey
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Not a well thought out event. This cluster event is a clustermess. Boo

granite schooner
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not just that some of us at 28 getting close ot getting our faction ships now need to kill 600mobs with as best a 300ship which may survive 3-4 if your lucky.. we need to kill 7200 of them at a repair cost of 50-70k trit per.. 126mil trit to maybe finish the event .. franklin isn't better its pretty much required..

weak ocean
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what exactly do u have to do for the events?
kill x drone ships to get y points?
what is the reward?

granite schooner
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you can kill anything ot get points for franklin BP but it only give you half the BP

slim wing
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How many servers have crashed so far?

high obsidian
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Less server crashing, and the inability to do the 30 kills in one system cause... EVERYONE IS THERE.

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Cause you have to kill 30 of these things in the ONE system.

astral galleon
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@prime gulch Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!!! Do the devs wipe back to front? Whos grand idea was it to kill the servers and jam everyone in the galaxy into one sector of space to farm swarms?

high obsidian
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@prime gulch I have to agree. This event was not really well thought out for the 'masses'. Please inform whoever developed the missions to take into consideration the concept of thousands of people trying to do 1) The initial quest which is in One system... 2) Making them try to kill 30 hostiles in the same system as the beginning quest, literally congesting the system so that people can't get in for 1 or finish 2 because there is LITERALLY no relief of that system due to the requirements of #2.

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It would have been better to have #2 having people hit Swarm Hostiles that they can take on and letting them know the possible other systems, or simply have them hit, at most 5 and then edge them out to the other systems to hit more than 30 in the STARTING system.

harsh geode
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Yeah, this event fails to find the fun.

marsh osprey
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We have updated LCARS with The Swarm systems. Also, check out our dedicated #the-swarm channel for the latest info!

If you're not a member already here is an open invitation... https://discord.gg/HwyxQ2S

eager walrus
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Kill 30 swarms. Fine. Kill any system. Kill 30 in 1 system for an entire server, asking for a crash.

open dock
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Please do events where random enemy bases are spread out so we can hunt them down and raid them. Put a shit ton of rss on it.

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Also, do events where enemy hostiles will appear in any system and start killing players. Whoever does damage to these hostiles, can get some good rewards or some shit.

marsh osprey
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ATTENTION COMMANDERS The LCARS bot !pvp command now has the new PVP Level

hardy osprey
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Its not accurate.

marsh osprey
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There may be more than one set that the devs are trying

dry shadow
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So I just killed 30 hostiles and a couple quests down the road in the same quest chain sends me back to the same system to kill another 30?!?!?! Scopely how bad are you???? No brains whatsoever.

mild glacier
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only 30? I had to do 30, then 50, then another 50.

marsh osprey
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@hardy osprey Was founding server levels, now changed to the "rest of the world" levels 😉

hardy osprey
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Sorry for the post in 2 channels, Events feedback and discussion... should be next to each other. Flipping between multiple discords trying to keep up with everything today.

marsh osprey
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😛

mild glacier
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There's a problem with the continuation of the event, it has a hard wall of level 26. BOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

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Total garbage. Don't introduce an event for level 15's then tell them they can't finish it until level 26.

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Hard FAIL Scopely!

untold osprey
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This swarm thing is really poor. I just had a 30 glitch/gap in my game. 1000 people in one system to each kill 100 hostile swarms is poor mgmt.

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The new pvp. .. took away over half of my targets and it fails in my mind to address professional lvl 14 players.

mild glacier
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makes the matter worse, we were all complaining about lvl 14 players, now we have to worry about lvl 18 players that can't be hit.

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and 19.

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basically everyone under 20 just got immunity and everyone over 22 just became cannon fodder for the 30's

digital thicket
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So, so much for 2 above and 2 below!

mild glacier
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higher levels still have a wider attack range, only the lower levels got nerfed

vagrant topaz
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@mild glacier it’s that way on purpose so you shell out $ to level up

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I got nerfed 1 lvl spread

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At 33 I could hit 22s. I can’t hit 22s anymore

mild glacier
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@vagrant topaz that's not a sound theory as it takes extreme amounts of time to level up even with money....and it takes a ton of money.

vagrant topaz
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They hope you’ll shell out a few grand

mild glacier
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1 level doesn't really feel like a nerf for a 33 with an 11 level spread. 2 levels is a HUGE nerf for a 24 with only a 4 level spread.

marsh osprey
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F2P can get the event ship, the Franklin, through grinding, missions, and events ...

mild glacier
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@marsh osprey how? there's no way to get the blueprints currently.

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for anyone

marsh osprey
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not true ... check out LCARS#the-swarm channel ... you can see they're up ... invite in #🤝-help-each-other channel

mild glacier
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I have, and they are not up. they do not exist.

marsh osprey
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I posted them myself ... you will have them soon on your server

mild glacier
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I won't hold my breath.

marsh osprey
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you forget there was a 6 hour delay due to issues on the founding server, first to be updated ... like always when there is an update delay, it will follow ... you get the benefit of us finding all the difficult stuff for you 😉

mild glacier
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you guys need to work harder then, you missed quite a few.

marsh osprey
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lol ... the guys completed both mission lines

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they also found bugs in the missions that were fixed before you were updated

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now onto events ...

mild glacier
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I guess we have a loose definition of fixed then. I guess the ability to complete should be enough considering there's other stuff that we can't do at all.

marsh osprey
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lol ... for sure ... no app is bug free ... always a work in progress ... a bit like owning a house 😉

mild glacier
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lol, no house is bug free. Hopefully it has a roof though.

marsh osprey
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lol

sweet cairn
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The event is crap once again !!!

nocturne turtle
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I have killed 30 swarm and not one modulator. What hell!!!!!?!!

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The event is bugged and so far s collosal fail.

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Panic you need to get in front of this and give step by step instructions on how the hell this was meant to work. Release the secrets to Rev Deuce or whoever bit do it quick

chilly basin
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Higher level swarm drop modulators but there's a daily event that rewards 50 lvl 15 kills

mild glacier
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all swarm drop at least 1 modulator

chilly basin
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I didn't notice any with lvl 15 but then I was busy trying not to accidentally attack players in system 😂

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Ridiculous bottleneck lol

mild glacier
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15 drop 1 modulator, 16 drop 2, etc.

gritty compass
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No longer getting them, stuck on 68 and not getting credit

viral star
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Hey how about multiple systems instead of everyone fighting over the same red pixels for swarm.

open dock
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The loot on these new hostiles SUCK. Please up them for the freaking difficulty level they are.

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Wow, so I just refined this new material and got a whopping 250K trit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!1!!!, with a reset of 22 hours. I'm dying (literally) to kill more of these high level bastards, whose loot btw sucks big time, so I can burn up instant repairs to get another 250K trit in 22 hours!!!! Sheesh. It's faster for me to just raid little bases next door.

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Please end this stupid event FAST so I can see it removed from my refinement and daily task screen

high obsidian
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Again... Another mission to go BACK to Andvaris... That is flooded... Please, Devs... Think this out.

raw axle
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@high obsidian well 12hrs post maintenance and I still can't warp there because too many ships.... sigh 🤷

high obsidian
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The sad thing of it all, is that whoever developed this event... Never took into consideration their playerbase

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You are dealing with 100s, if not 1000s of players. All of which will want to do the event.

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Jamming them into ONE system, and having them fight 30 hostiles in same system is foolishly a bad idea, as it is highly contested and also blockading others from getting in, cause 100s are trying to compete for 30 hostile kills in a starting system.

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Add to that, having people go BACK to said system again, which will STILL be crowded for 2 more mission requirements.

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And it only 'lessens' when you get past needing to go to this one system.

sudden sage
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What the hell is wrong with you people at Scopely... start an event where you have to kill 30 enemies repeatedly and everyone has to do it in the same system leading to a massive overload in that system and no one can get reds cause the lag and spawn rate suck. 🤦‍♂️

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Someone over there really needs to get fired

bleak moat
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Honestly, this update makes me embarrased that I've spent around 80 dollars on this game. I won't make that mistake in this game again.

high obsidian
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And another Mission that takes us back to Andvaris... Data snare.

tough pasture
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Around 10-15 new systems and they use 1 🙃

vagrant topaz
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I don't know what you're all moaning about. Just pop some uppers and do the kills at 4am

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But no slacking, you have to go back and do another 30 later on.

wispy condor
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Anyone seen a BP yet?

vagrant topaz
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No. Ive done every mission. No bps

wispy condor
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Ok, I'll not bother starting then, thought it looked iffy

kindred glacier
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there are 2 events to obtain the Bps..solo hostile event and later on solo mining event.. if you complete both events, you will get 45 bps each and your free Franklin

vagrant topaz
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any news on when these events start?

wet vale
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More predictable feedback - i've got dailies to kill lvl30, 28 and 15 swarm mobs. 15 are trivial, 28/30 are completely impossible and will be for some weeks until i've got the franklin built and tiered up. You should either have given away the franklin, added some more achievable goals for people that don't have it built, or actually started the event to earn franklin bps sooner so we could have it ready for when these new dailies arrived.

raw axle
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@wet vale I guess you're 28 or 29? do you have any faction ships?

wet vale
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29, got a Saladin but bottlenecked on uncommon g3 as usual, my kumari is currently better for hostile killing usually. Without doing any crew optimisation my 300k power saladin could kill 1 lvl28, 600k power swarm ship at the cost of about 60% hull. Not tried against a 30.

raw axle
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hrm ok, what lvl/tier is your sally?

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my Vakhlas can kill 3x28s

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more if you collect the ones others tried to hit and died in the process 😄

wet vale
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Sally is t3, waiting on one gun to tier up. Vahklas is only 250k power odd, doubt it'll do any better - basically i'm skipping anything but the lvl15s kill daily quest until i've got the franklin built and tiered. It would have been nice to have something a bit meatier than lvl15s to hit, and not have 2 quests for 28s/30s that just don't look worth doing.

raw axle
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my Vak is 220K (I think T6 with no upgrades) so it'll do better than your sally by the sound of things

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but yeah I'm also skipping the 28/30 for now

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and the 50*15 for 30 of those biothingies is just a waste of time IMO

wet vale
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I've killed most of the 50 just doing quests today so i'll finish that off, but yeah until franklin is built most of the rewards look skippable.

vagrant topaz
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@kindred glacier When will we get these events for franklin bps?

leaden zealot
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My sally is tier 5, 1 impulse engine away from tier 6, I can kill 1 (maybe 2) level 30 swarms.

feral vault
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2 sets of "kill 30 in Andvaris" was not thought out well... the only way to get any kills is to spawn-camp, along with all of the other spawn-campers

raw axle
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that is if you can even warp to it 😄

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I started killing campers for fun, too bad the new PvP range doesn't allow me to attack even lower levels 😄

sullen lynx
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@prime gulch this is impossible! The highest swarm I can destroy is 24 and that gives me one point. Way to make an event feasible and fun. First you provide missions that dead end bases on level; then You make an event that is impossible to make headway on . Thanks

vagrant topaz
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@sullen lynx You don't have to kill swarms for the PvE event.

vagrant topaz
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That Franklin is utterly useless. My saladin kills swarms better

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And millions of freq mods to upgrade it. Not going to spend 500$ and you can farm them. Well you can but 3 million divided by 300 per kill = 10,000 kills. I’m no effen way

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14 kills before repair

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my b'rel can kill 28 between repairs, but 800k / 9hrs

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@radiant moon same level as yours but more kills between repairs with the common crew

radiant moon
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Uhhhhhh thank you @vagrant topaz !

compact bluff
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So cheap to repair, but overall fing useless

blissful nova
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How do i reset my guest chain? Did the first mission to andvaris but after that nothing has appeared in regards to quest

vagrant topaz
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@blissful nova did u kill 30 hostiles there ?

spring mason
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Sucks as usual, same junk, different wrapping!

blissful nova
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@vagrant topaz yup, pretty sure i did

vagrant topaz
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@blissful nova did you look in niawellin?

blissful nova
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I cant do that mission. Got the shipyard, but other two arent done.

mental oyster
winged axle
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@mental oyster they gave some time to get the Franklin,so we can easily do dailies

mental oyster
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Yes but having the event not start with dailies is still silly. I can, for example fairly easily take my centurion and do the 28s and 15s. I just think it makes more sense to have an event basically requiring you to do the dailies start with said dailies

winged axle
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@mental oyster I can only finish 2 of the new dailies.I am lvl 25 with a 230k kum.So it is better to get Franklin for me.

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I need 3-4 trips to finish dailies(I kill 24s only,because 15s are too crowded)

long wyvern
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They have made the swarm OP so you purchase the Franklin early to complete daily missions.

The really sad thing is! the Franklin at T6 can only take out a few level 28 swarm, making the ship entirely useless.

I understand it's a pay to win game, but the swarm have been set at a silly power!

Level 32 swarm is 900k power, compared to a Klingon B'rel at the same level which is half the given power!

ripe elm
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Anyone else notice the ships ability on the franklin doesnt work?........38 times damage to swarm.....errr no

vagrant topaz
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6.5k damage Vs normal hostiles, 238k damage Vs swarm, per shot at t8 lv40, multiplier is 145 but pretty sure that's off base level stats

winged axle
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What is attack per round in tier 1 Franklin? @vagrant topaz

long wyvern
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@vagrant topaz A level 32 swarm is 1.4million power, a tier 6 Franklin has no hope of killing one and I just tried killing a 32 swarm in my 550k Mayflower which also stood no chance.

My PVE event requires 7200 points.

I feel sorry for those paying to get the Franklin to find it's no better than a regular combat ship.

This event is 100% broken and I'm sure all will agree.

raw axle
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@long wyvern you can kill normal hostiles for the event

long wyvern
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Really?

vagrant topaz
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Yes

winged axle
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Can you add that we can kill normal hostiles in this event to #557163704383438850? <@&509691205798592532>

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Most of the players asked the same question multiple times today

raw axle
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Also my T6 Vakhlas can kill 3 lvl28 swarm, I would have expected the Franklin at same tier to do much better....

vagrant topaz
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Most folks just write a message first but I'll ask 🤔

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Have you raised the xp relative to the tier?

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It's kinda frequent 😂

long wyvern
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Well blow me down! That's good but not self explanatory as everything this event is geared towards hostiles, which actually makes the PVE event actually seem odd, rather than the community 'assuming it's the contrary

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Geared towards swarm*

hasty hemlock
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The event is "geared" towards letting you build your Franklin, why would they make you kill swarm before you have it?

raw axle
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Because scopely? 😂 😂 😂

winged axle
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Scopely does some good things recently

clever nest
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Event Feedback/Question

I'm L26, and I have to kill 9000 pts of hostiles for the weekly event.
Some alliance mates are 30, have to kill 3000 pts of hostiles.

Why is that such a large difference?

raw axle
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Because they have to kill lvl34 hostiles and you have to kill lvl30 hostiles and the power triples between them...

clever nest
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So it's more a logarithmic scale

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ish

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haha

raw axle
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It's more of a "how much can they kill before they give up and not do the event" scale

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With my Kumari for example I can kill 60 lvl 30, 20 lvl 32 and maybe 3 lvl 34

hasty hemlock
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Yea hostile power scaling gets steep at higher levels. I can kill 33s and not even see any damage, 34 I get scratched, 35 I see a dent here or there, 36 outright kills me 🤣

raw axle
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Just to give some scale... of course at ops 30 you should have better ships

clever nest
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Cool cool. And good to see you server mate @hasty hemlock

hasty hemlock
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👋

raw axle
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@hasty hemlock is that with the kumi?

hasty hemlock
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No, Saladin

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I haven't upgraded my Kumari in ages. Have tons of ore, but 2 horizons and a Saladin to throw all my crystal at

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Plus shipyard 29, and my drydocks

raw axle
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Ahh ok good to know.. need to start killing 33s for dailies soon lol

ripe elm
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T5 Franklin gets killed by a single lvl 26 swarm....i have 60 lvl28 swarm to kill for the last mission....to upgrade the franklin requires millions of modulators meaning you need to be killing lvl30 plus swarm to even grind upgrades over months

lofty wyvern
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Where are these Franklin missions?

radiant moon
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@vagrant topaz could not resist. But needed the Crystal from the packs too for my Saladin soooo win win... i mean for Scopley.

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Only the Warp on Tier 8 is missing. 400k frequency modulators.

vagrant topaz
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Strong enough at that point for lv32s, grind the rest

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Damage boost doubles in the last 5 xp levels

vagrant topaz
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So.... server 133 here.... the event says its lasting for 8 days... but.... we’re only getting a total of 7 days on it... is this correct?

mild glacier
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If it's a US server that appears to be correct

obtuse wraith
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let me use a comparison versus intro of augment space to give feedback:

  • instead of mining space this is a pve space
  • current ships can’t perform ever in this space (at least in augspace was locked and other miners do work, albeit slower), good luck killing lvl 32 swarm.One needs brell and takes 3 kills per repair. They perform at lower level hostiles.
    = all systems are open from start (no unlocking via mission) [neutral, personally i like missions]
  • new chain of missions, but rewards are not the ship parts (instead these are accessed by completing two long 7d events or visa/mastercard), rewards are upgrade materials for Franklin
  • no faction ladder, just level up the dedicated ship(franklin)
    = rewards via daily missions, but only one of three doable (other two require tiering up franklin)
    = rewards via refinery are jus P, Trit, Dil no use of store
  • no new officers (well just one, unclear what she does. My money goes on swarm killing)
  • apparently rewards include uncommon, so far none, perhaps in events. BUT the new ship increases my needs for uncommons, so not sure there is a net win.

score 6 negative points, 3 neutral meh points, 0 positive

vagrant topaz
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@mild glacier nope EU server

weak ocean
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@obtuse wraith you can kill the higher swarms with other ships too, if they are good. Most of my ally members usw high lvl vahklas, centurion enterprise etc. But its a bit expensive.

Why do you need uncommon? Didnt See any need for it, just a mass of common.

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I can do 2 of the daily with my kumari

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You forgot to mention the ultra high grind to lvl up the ship... The amount of needed frequency modulators is sick... You will need month of grinding to geht the Franklin any good

obtuse wraith
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@hayden good point, the time needed to grind the Franklin is enormous and there is no long term reward.

Valk I haven't tried yet, did try intrepid and saladin. But I wonder if Valk can kill lvl 32 swarms, for sure not going to invest in Valk. Once you have kumi Valk is not really needed.

weak ocean
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I thought about getting the Franklin as it ist that expensive... But only warp 27 max and that modulator grind... Thats to mich for me, i gonna make the event for the rewards but no more

obtuse wraith
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A useful tweak would be to make the missions scale with the tier of the Frank, not the lvl of the player. I am 32, directly swarms 32 are tier 8- 9 frank and not doable with anything else.

Valk vs 28s in a few minutes, if successful move up the food chain.

vagrant topaz
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The event sucks for all my f2p crew, they won't get teir 4 so won't be getting the ship again. Another great event scoply as far as ships go. NOT!

weak ocean
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Isnit rly that hard to geht t4 in your Server?

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Is it

vagrant topaz
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Best way to improve retention I've seen in a game. Maybe consider releasing ships early for purchase and f2p could earn the BP eventually.

weak ocean
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Several in my Server are already donr with it

vagrant topaz
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Yes unfortunately.

lilac kayak
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you can get the crew pass T4 just grind those credits out

weak ocean
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I am that that my Server has the "GMC" so minerhitting isnt allowed except he is overfreight vor Sitzung in an empty mine which makes the mining event easier

vagrant topaz
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Some never got jellyfish or north stars.

lilac kayak
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will take time ofc

weak ocean
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Sitzung = sitting ... Stupid autocorrect...

lilac kayak
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same as mine

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5 min on zero node and 500+ oc ( that's retarded anyway )

vagrant topaz
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Crew pass

lilac kayak
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faction ships first crew second

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i;m saving my credits for lvl 28 faction ships atm

vagrant topaz
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Lol, f2p, they don't have faction ships yet

lilac kayak
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there are some ppl f2p that are above 28 and have them

vagrant topaz
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Not many on my server

lilac kayak
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i'm 27 and will go for 28 when i have 20k fed credits and the crystal for shipyard

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i'm the highest on my server

vagrant topaz
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Nice

lilac kayak
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got 15k fed credits atm

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and almost 13k rom

vagrant topaz
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We have a lot of high level players

lilac kayak
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same here highest reached 38 several days ago 😃

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he pumped a lot of money lol

vagrant topaz
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But some of our f2p are hurting

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Would be nice if they considered that

weak ocean
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I am f2p too, i am glad that the packets are way to expensive so i will never buy Thema :)

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Them...

lilac kayak
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what lvl are you?

vagrant topaz
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Back to the grind

lilac kayak
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done like 25% of the events so far atm

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got time to finish both in time ^^

weak ocean
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24 right now, startend february i think
.. Saving my things to go up.. Wanna have the fourth drydock

lilac kayak
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pup up that kumi

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how strong is it?

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mine is at 280k ish not gonna upg it more tho

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it's fine at it's power atm

weak ocean
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190k right now, the amount of needed ore ... My refinery hates me

lilac kayak
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yeah it will eat lots of ore

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but it will be your best ship up to 28 !

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what factions do you have btw?

weak ocean
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I rushed to get to lvl 24 but now i gonna take it slow, gonna upgrade everything first.

Fed and kling.

lilac kayak
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oh nice kling you can go for bortas

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good ship

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and feds go for saladin

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i;m fed/rom so sala and cent

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and grinding bortas bp's from daily kling killings ^^ so far 2 :)) and 2 b'rel

weak ocean
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No ress for bortas, that would take way to long.
I wanted to take the centurion AS i wanted to save the crystalls for my miner... But the lvl 31 ships dont Luke me :)

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Like

lilac kayak
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you will have time to gather the rss for it tho

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do not rush for ops

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at 26 will be easier with horizon to loot bases

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try to win events to get the uncommon and rare mats

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i'm playing since end of december

weak ocean
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I didnt have to loot any bases till now, always had enough RSS Form events but i got a string ally which could open any base for me :)

lilac kayak
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im in a nice alliance

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when i was under 24 they would had open bases for me and i would had feested nicely

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at 24 i got kumi i would open bases for myself

weak ocean
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And i do Every event i can and farm AS much AS hostiles AS possible while doing all dailys :)

lilac kayak
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and the fun starts at 26 when you get the horizon'\

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before horizon i had like 100M ish looted already

weak ocean
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Yeah, more cargospace :)

lilac kayak
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since i got horizon i;m at 212M looted :))

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in 3 weeks looted 112m already

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and those points are bugged btw

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the amount you really loot is double of the points

weak ocean
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Only Raider 360k till now 😂

lilac kayak
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hehe you will grow xD

wet vale
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If you give me a mission to kill 360 lvl32 mobs, along with every other lvl28/9 on the server, at least make a few systems where ONLY they spawn. I hate this event.

obtuse wraith
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Valk Tier 7, 348k, pink kirk, blue spock and uhura can kill 1 swarm 30 per repair. And 5-6 swarm 28s. No way 32s. I have see snaps of 500k pay flower trying swarm 32 and getting slaughtered. So, like I said, missions for 32s need bigger explorers. Brell or Centurion. I know a lvl 33 player with Brell who could do 3 per repair.

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Unfortunately I am 32 without a big Explorer, so can only get frequency modulator via hostiles and 1 of 3 missions. The other 2 missions are impossible and this is frustrating. Missions should be dependent on Franklin tier not on player level.

raw axle
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(almost) everything is dependent on player level, there wouldn't be much incentive to upgrade the franklin if dailies were based on its level

obtuse wraith
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And what is the incentive now?

raw axle
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to be able to complete the dailies?

obtuse wraith
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Catch 22 isn't it? You can't if you are lvl 30+ thus u don't get the resources to upgrade because The only effective way is via missions. Good luck grinding 500k for tier 6 Franklin vs hostiles lvl 26 that barely drop 100 each. That's 5000 hostiles per weapon. 3 weapons.

raw axle
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lol yes that's normal scopely for you 😄

lilac kayak
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how much do the 3 dailies give at that lvl?

obtuse wraith
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Yea 😂

lilac kayak
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i get 10-11k ish or so modulators at 27

raw axle
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13K at 28

lilac kayak
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so at 30 most probably 18k

obtuse wraith
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12k for 25 X 32 swarm and 9k for 20 x 32 swarm. Catch is i can't kill 32.

lilac kayak
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or more

obtuse wraith
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21k at 32

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I do have a 50x swarm 15 or higher, gives a joke amount.

weak ocean
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Just 5k on 24

obtuse wraith
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At least you can kill 24 with Valk?

weak ocean
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I kill lvl 15 and 24 with my kumari, dient lvl my vahk

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Need 1,3 repair for both dailies

obtuse wraith
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Auch expensive, bad side of triangle, but doable

tacit frost
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woah how much did you spend on that vahk, i refuse to tier it above 6 as it's so expensive

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on UC

serene ginkgo
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Why r levels 15 and 16 excluded from solo events this go round

sullen plinth
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so uhh, no Faction daily events to join eh?

signal pike
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Don't pause the faction daily events? Why would you ever do that^

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You're going to stop faction progress for a whole week

raven sluice
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I have to kill 35 swam cluster is that even possible??

sullen plinth
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Event Feedback: this event had potential, but no.

obtuse wraith
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Event "Threat from Beyond - Heroic!" 24h for 375 points to be earned.... Tachan... By killing 32s (1 point) and 35s (10 point). WTF people?

sullen plinth
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Crappy choice of systems for the mission chain by concentrating everyone into one system for multiple mission completions and killing of hostiles. Really quite difficult missions completion goals for the PVE and mining events. Disabling the faction events that seem to have always been around?

Just no. If it was one of those things, maybe, but all three?

Edit: I see faction dailies will be turned back on in 12 hours. That's fine. Just communicate it up front. Use that News channel!

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Augment was a much better event. This isn't just meh, this is actively bad.

obtuse wraith
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@tacit frost needed to strengthen explorer ages ago and didn't want to pay flower because it sucks. Ramping romulan faction (now on hold WTF) to get a better explorer.

ripe elm
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No reward events either

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Totally dumb....3 mins to do easy solo...no chance to even attempt the harder one .... so just log off for 23hrs and 55mins....nice work

sullen plinth
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@ripe elm check the Official Announcements. Panic just updated/edited the comment.

ripe elm
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Thanks....log off for 11 hours 55 mins..😂

sullen plinth
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yeah

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🤷

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guess I have more time to get work done

storm socket
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Any reason "Franklin Acquisition PvE Event (Level 17+)" wouldn't be showing for me as a lvl 17?

raven sluice
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@prime gulch there is something wrong on my level I’m 34 , for Heroic to finish I have to kill 38 swarms of level 35 or 375 swarms of level 32 ???? I ask how to do it if even in announcement you wrote that tier 9 franklin will kill swarms of level 32????

zealous brook
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Threat from beyonf Daily is broken. idont get points for that. but earned points for all oter (LB and heroic)

trim cape
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@raven sluice i feel youre pain aswell

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no way to compleet it lvl 33 myself ... need to kill lvl 35 hostiles to get 20 point with i cant kill a single one off. lvl 32 i can kill 6-7 per run..

raven sluice
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@prime gulch <@&509691205798592532> Franklin maxed out at tier 9 allow to kill max 2 swarms at lvl 35 so how to complet it ?? To kill 38 of them needs 19 rounds of tier 9 Franklin I know now only one person who Has it can someone intervene???

trim cape
raven sluice
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@trim cape no 😉 that are hostiles not swarms

trim cape
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hostiles or swarm still need to kill 3000 pices

zealous brook
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150x lvl 36 hostiles

raven sluice
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Yes, not 3000

zealous brook
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yuo, 25 per day

near sapphire
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I'm having same issue as Heimi, no points for non-heroic TFB

clever nest
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I hit some higher level ones, and got points. So I'd be curious where the cut-off point is.

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I'm L26, hitting L18 didn't give points, but hitting L26 swarm did. On my way to try 24.

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L24 counts

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L20 counts

near sapphire
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I'll go try a 20

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I tried a L19 swarm, and that counted. Don't know if it's level-linked or not, but I'm L24, FYI

vagrant topaz
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Too many events at once. Why not wait a week for this Swarm killing stuff?

near sapphire
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Ok, update: can someone test killing a swarm in the Herias system (just south of Fed space), and see if it counts for the non-Heroic event?

orchid sail
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our alliance has completed all milestones in the alliance biomaterials event but not everyone in the alliance got milestone rewards. are others having the same issue?

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many of our member didnt get any of the milestone rewards

vagrant topaz
swift grotto
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hey has anyone been able to beat a 35 swarm

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they are in the event but I am not sure there is a way to beat them right now

wary furnace
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You got to be kidding me. This is the reward for reaching 1200 points. Piece of crap.

raw axle
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1200?

wet vale
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Uh, is that a different event? Top tier threat from beyond for me at lvl29 was 75 points, for 2 khan shards, 300k trit and 1 rare crystal

raw axle
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I have a slight feeling lower levels might have different point system

hasty hemlock
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That looks like a sub 20 reward

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Note that the ore is 2*

wooden sparrow
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My alliance completed the Alliance Biomineral Collection and I did not receive any rewards. Yes, I restarted game/device and cleared cache like I do 100x per day already.

hasty hemlock
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@wooden sparrow have you collected any biomineral since the start of the event?

wooden sparrow
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That's the crap you get from doing the swarm dailies... then yes.

hasty hemlock
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then you definitely should have gotten the rewards >.<

minor glen
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@raven sluice they are looking into the ship and the event. No idea what will come of it

viral star
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How about rotating and officer and ship event in there too.

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Ohh yeah me at 25. Can accomplish one ☝️ of swarm daily’s. Wow.

karmic sapphire
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@wooden sparrow same with me. I made sure to collect some materials during the event, but still no rewards.

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I am also missing one of the Franklin BP events

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And can't seem to get a response from anyone

marsh depot
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@orchid sail you need to participate in the alliance event to gain the rewards. Those who didnt collect Biomaterials dont get the rewards.

fleet osprey
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The amount of needed parts to upgrade the Franklin ist just ridiculous. In Order to reach the next tier I would need millions of data modulators. Lol

small vigil
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Lvl 17's are now killing me in 1 hit today - Checking battle log their dmg is 2k but crits are hitting me for 20k. Surely 10x crit rate is wrong? It says 150% crit rate in info tab

tough pasture
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It is all about the 💵💰

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Just spend 450 euro

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If you don’t spend you get crap

vagrant topaz
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<@&509691205798592532> At the moment the Threat from Beyond: LB event is only interesting for about 3% of the players per server,
as the rewards outside of the top 10 are not even worth trying as the repair costs are more than what you regain in the top 10-100 rewards

Please consider the following for upcoming similar solo leaderboard events:

Bracketed event
lvl 15-20
lvl 21-25
lvl 26-30
lvl 30+

replace intrepid BP's by
Jelly/NS for 15-20
lvl 26 faction ship for 21-25
lvl 28 faction ship for 26-30

  • maybe more uncommon minerals starting from the lowest tier (scaling on level bracket)

this would make the event interesting for all players = more engagement = more active players = profit

raven sluice
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I still will ask same stupid question how to kill 38 of them ?? For Heroic at my lvl 34 ??

vagrant topaz
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already have

raven sluice
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First event since 8 months I cannot complete

vagrant topaz
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in my opinion they set the bar too high, the event is perfectly aimed at people who have the franklin fully upgraded to the tier appropriate to their ops level, they needed a baby franklin event first then this one a few weeks later after people have a chance to grind with it for a while

raven sluice
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Yep true, simple solution is to set 32 lvl for 5 points

raw axle
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@vagrant topaz to be fair at lvl 28 with only a a baby faction ship I figured out a way to make it doable, it's not great, not even good, but doable

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could of course be completely undoable at higher levels

raven sluice
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It is 1 point for 32 lvl 10 points for 35 lvl and you need 375 points 😂😂😂

raw axle
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only 150 points at 28, with killing 30 for 10 and requires 1.3 ships to kill 😉

vagrant topaz
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My ships the same as yours GB, I need 525pts

raw axle
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I suspect my sally might even do better after they start the faction event and I upgrade it further

vagrant topaz
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Best I can get is 15 kills per trip, so 35 trips

raven sluice
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Thats insane biggest problem is - no reaction

vagrant topaz
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It's the first round, when they look at the stats hopefully the 2nd round will be adjusted, I recommended more points for the 2nd level and possible add a third

raven sluice
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Should gave the shards for those who tried

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@vagrant topaz good idea don’t bother by hardcore grinding but not that hardcore 😂😂😂they can also cut points by half will be still hard but doable

vagrant topaz
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how's that for tried?

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16 more runs to go

raven sluice
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Hehehe

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No work today??

vagrant topaz
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🤐

raven sluice
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😂😂😂🖖🖖🖖

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If I had Franklin tiered from start would be different

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But Saladin managed to hit two 😂😂😂

lilac kayak
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u ca do it @vagrant topaz !

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use the force

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oops wrong game

vagrant topaz
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I'm givin her all she's got cap'n

lilac kayak
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drop a pint of vodka on the warp engines !

marsh osprey
vagrant topaz
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1.21 gigawatts!?!?

lilac kayak
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warp 9.9 pls !

vagrant topaz
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pfft

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my brel does warp 13.6 with helvia and domitia 😂

lilac kayak
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dayum hax

whole crag
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This is my experience thus far going after heroic. Never two swarm ships per hull. 1. Maybe. Sometimes two hulls for one swarm ship.

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Fully maxed Franklin, Kirk crew, research to lvl 37

lilac kayak
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^ drop bones for tlaan and try again ^^

whole crag
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@lilac kayak dude there is NO way

lilac kayak
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you will need her dmg reduction on the swarm weapon

whole crag
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3 245k crit hits in 5 rounds

lilac kayak
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substract 15% dmg from that with tlaan

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that will help a lot

whole crag
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No it doesn’t

vagrant topaz
whole crag
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Tried that

lilac kayak
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someone posted a pic max franky with epic kirk spock and tlaan against that swarm

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there he comes to save the day ! @vagrant topaz

vagrant topaz
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💪

lilac kayak
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PhilBicepsLucPicard

whole crag
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She puked when I had her on

vagrant topaz
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disclaimer: that's not my ship

lilac kayak
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rats

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well what's the bottom deck crew?

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maybe there is one of the issues

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post a pic with the whole crew, we need to see the % on the right also

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when you tap the % on the right in ship management you will see some thresholds, reaching some of them is very crucial

whole crag
lilac kayak
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i don't have a ship with 100% but can you tap on the % on the right and make a new screenshot?

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did you reach all those thresholds?

whole crag
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Yes

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Exceeded substantially

lilac kayak
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what's the ship str with tlaan outside?

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saw the ship phil posted has more than you with spock.. level helps too ofc

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what lvl is the guy who gave you that screenshot @vagrant topaz ?

whole crag
vagrant topaz
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39

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Try that combo and report back @whole crag

lilac kayak
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that's in base the pic i see, move the ship outside

whole crag
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His ship is 9k stronger. Mine is 485,962

vagrant topaz
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that shouldn't matter too much, most likely higher level research

whole crag
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His hull after hitting one looks about like mine does with Bones. Stand by for tlann

lilac kayak
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2 lvls in academy for officers + some nice researches, yep will improve quite a lot

whole crag
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When swarm doesn’t rapidly crit I can end up with little less than half hull. If crits I’m toast and swarm has half hull.

open otter
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Oof, so it's just like opening a recruit box, sometimes you get what you want, but most of the time you don't

whole crag
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@vagrant topaz that went better but swarm had no critical hits

lilac kayak
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how many rounds btw?

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with both crew

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the swarm crits at 12 or 13 rounds

whole crag
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I’ve never gone past 5-6 rounds

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The swarm can crit 2nd round. 3rd round. 5th round.

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I had 3 crits from swarm in 5 rounds. All for 230-240k and change

lilac kayak
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didn;t the swarm hit with it;s big guns at 12-13 rounds? @vagrant topaz

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or @raw axle

whole crag
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Has to be a different lvl than 35 swarm I would think to go that many rounds

lilac kayak
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most probably, don;t know about the swarm at that high lvl at what round they have their big guns

vagrant topaz
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I'm killing 32's in 5-6 rounds

lilac kayak
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and do they have their big crits from the start or round 2-3 ? 0.o

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i started doing my hostile farming, don;t have any logs for lvl 28 when i fight them

whole crag
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Yeah I went 9 rounds using an Augur with Nero on lvl 32’s. Out of triangle testing

lilac kayak
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mine last 18+ rounds at least

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how did the augur die? i mean go

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poor ship is so underwhelming 😦

whole crag
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This is with lvl 30 swarm. 32’s were similar. Augur is Tier 5

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@lilac kayak it starts to get better at tier 5

lilac kayak
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hah so little dmg those 30 did nice

whole crag
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Let me find a fresher pick

lilac kayak
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o yeah the swarm had half hull

whole crag
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That’s what happens right out of the gate at tier 5 Augur

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I have no explanation but it makes up for the bugs or power and obliteration / burning issue. It just reduces hull the minute I target hostile

lilac kayak
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hope the officers gets fixed soon™

raw axle
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@lilac kayak yeah every 12 rounds big gun by the looks of things

lilac kayak
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that applies for lower than 30 or so swarm?

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cause if for max swarm they die in 5-6 rounds they must fire faster

whole crag
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@raw axle I didn’t bother looking at 30’s or lower crit occurrence. But I will testify with evidence above! 35’s can crit multiple times in less than 6 rounds

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That’s roughly half hull gone without the crits on the Tlann run. If it would have thrown 2 crits it’s over. And the frequency of one or more crits per attack was pretty high. I was using gladius and centurion as cannon fodder before attacking with Franklin. Just to get some hull dmg on them. Any advantage possible

raw axle
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I'm not talking about crits @whole crag just a big gun that they seem to have which fires every 12 rounds.

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@lilac kayak yes I'm pretty sure I saw the same on 28s and 26s

whole crag
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Understood. I’d be terrified if there was a big gun as well on 35’s in those first rounds

lilac kayak
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basically that's the ship killer then but not at higher level if the fight lasts under 10 lol

raw axle
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well i wouldn't be surprised if the 35s might have some other surprise under their belt 😉

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with my vak against 30 the battle last 23-24 rounds

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and kills about 2/3 of it 😄

whole crag
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Like a 70% chance to crit in first 3 rounds. Lol

radiant moon
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@whole crag 🤣 I’m so sorry right now. I’m was sitting there 5 mins and was thinking: „How the hell could he get his Legionary to 1.1m Power.“

gritty crag
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No LB today?

minor glen
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nope

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not on the schedule

winged axle
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Please replace LB with something else

minor glen
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I am too heartbroken to care now.. i'm going to go an bork everything.

raven sluice
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@vagrant topaz ok event is ok now but ship still broken max tiered kill only one swarm 35 this is non sense

manic folio
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What event half one there is fair few people not got the two events the mining one yes but the PVE event not showing stupid really

winged axle
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@raven sluice it can actually kill 2 35s with good officers

raven sluice
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Wow whole 2 😂😂😂

winged axle
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But yea it isnt that good

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I will try it in PvP when I get it to 150k

whole crag
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Pvp? Man don’t bother. You might have better luck throwing a rubber duck at someone, blinding them for a moment

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It’s a 2 shot at best as long as you don’t get the short straw of chained critical hits on lvl 35

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Then it’s a nothing burger

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Man this kill 2 ships if lucky on lvl 35 swarm. Repair, send back, repair, send back, repair, send back, repair, send back, repair, send back is really screwing with my chi

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Fun level is negative 7

orchid sail
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now you know how the federation felt when they encountered the borg 😂

crude wadi
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Why do the swarm have shield deflection stats without any shields?

hasty hemlock
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because shield deflection, dodge and armor are just names for "mitigate damage stat"

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functionally they all work the same, just they are countered by different piercing stats

spice aurora
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Pro tip, Franklin makes a great base defence ship.
Mine is 179 at base, absorbed all of a 500k Sally hit in the one shot the Sally had and Franky kept on shooting.
Blue Spock as Capt with purple Kirk and blue bones works best for me.

spice aurora
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@prime gulch ty for a wonderful surprise.

stray harbor
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With the ridiculous amount of frequency modulators needed to tier up the Franklin, we need a way to mine them! 60,000ish to get from tier 2 to 3 is insane when you can only collect 6 (no zeroes added there) per kill on lvl 18s.

gilded edge
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you can 'mine' them by killing swarms

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not everything should be made available the faster lazy way, for some stuff, you should put some effort in

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if you are the lazy type, go the lazy way and buy them

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my 2 cents about that

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Blood, Sweat and Tears !

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except for the andriva factor, this event is nice and doable if you have enough time

wet vale
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Not that great that the only pack for frequency modulators is £93, or is this another case of scopely deciding that since i've paid out enough i can only buy big items now? I don't want 1.2m modulators, just enough to get it tiered a bit more..

stray harbor
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@gilded edge Who has time to hit 10,000 hostiles for one tier? Not being lazy. Being realistic.

gilded edge
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you think this will be the only swarm event ?

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swarms remain

tough pasture
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It is tactics, making it slightly to difficult so you pay

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And then they wonder why they are struggeling to keep lower levels playing

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And when you Reach level 20 you cannot do anything with ships unless you bought a jelly or NS

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When you reach 24 (if you didn’t quit) it is only about uncommon. But you need so many that refinement will never give you.

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In most packages there are hardly any

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And that “leaderboard” event is for the 10–20 players that spend 2k a month

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So i have no idea why they even put it in my even list

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Your number 200 with 2 million damage, nr 1 has 2 billion damage

raw axle
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@tough pasture the monthly package content increase as you level up, and the amount of UCs you get as well

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plus do solo/daily events for more UC, always keep ship/officer XP for an event, try to finish research/station events if you have speedups

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leaderboard don't bother really

tough pasture
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Yes i learned that

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So my officer xp Goes in events i can win

raw axle
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yep, monitor the officer/ship leaderboards to see roughly how much you'll need to get a good spot in these and if you have enough you can try and do for it

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they are bracketed by levels so you should have a decent chance if you save XP for some time

tough pasture
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I normally save 1-1,25 million xp before i participate

finite birch
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Bored of having to vie for swarm kills, got better games to play that you don't have to spend hours grinding or mining to achieve anything. Mining events are crap because of bullies. Other than that the drop rates for the Solo's are good and satisfying to be rewarded.

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The story lines are good with good rewards at the end, shame it can't scale slightly to provide a better challenge for mid and high level players.

boreal canyon
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This needs to be fixed. If the bottom comment from support is true, it's definitely not how the ship should be intended to work. A 27% increase to crap damage is still crap damage. The wording in game needs to be what is happening. The ship is supposed to be a swarm destroying machine, like the the botany bay is for data. At the moment it is not worth it. An event ship should be more effective at all levels, not only after $800 is pumped into it.

tough pasture
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Multiplied apperently means something different at scopely compared to the real world

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1 multiplied by 27 = 27. Not 1.27!!

boreal canyon
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Exactly lol.

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On a side note the ship is beautiful 😊. Makes the Sally look like a cheap Walmart toy.

civic ice
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@tough pasture naw way more than 27%

buoyant kite
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What's the next mission after the protocol mission. What system is the next quest line?

split summit
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franklin's freq.mod /parts is insane, to reach t4 you need almost 200k total. lvl 24 swarm droprate is around 60, daily's give 2-3k. either raise droprate at least 10x or lower parts cost same rate (still huge amounts of trit and dil to upgrade, but thats fair for a grade 3 ship)

weary zenith
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Yeah it's bullshit the amount of frequency modulators you need. I need almost a million more to go from T5 to T6. I can only hit a couple of lvl 24s at a time, so at this rate it will take me 2,376 years of non-stop grinding to get there.

dusk scroll
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Or..just buy them

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Do what scopely want

split summit
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or turn latinum to freq.mod on reasonable rate

gilded edge
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reading is difficult...

wet vale
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The frequency mod cost makes this whole new daily skippable to me. As someone with dual reps getting the daily token is easy without killing swarm, and now with a t3 franklin i still can't kill as easily as with my vahklas, i need 150k more modulator parts to tier it further, which is a good 20 days of the lowest daily which is all i can do efficiently. All that so that i can do the daily efficiently with the franklin, and nothing else.
Unless you add an extra daily reward tier only reachable with swarm kill dailies completed, it looks a lot easier not to bother.

whole thorn
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Any suggestions on how to get the Franklin PVE event to trigger for players who leveled after the start? I have several members who upgraded to participate but they have not gotten the PVE event and no response from HelpDesk on support tickets.

mild glacier
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there's an announcement on the subject. it's the weekend, responses will be slower or nonexistent.

dusky sleet
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why do hostiles in seperatist, swarm have to be interceptors? can't they just be a bit mixed up? or is it just easy to copy paste stuff.

raw axle
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because the franklin is an explorer?

hollow swallow
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@dusky sleet seperatists have all 3 kinds of ships.

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Swarm is only interceptors because, like @raw axle said, the Franklin is an explorer. Also it seems true to the lore.

lilac kayak
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the swarm needs to be fast little bugger ships !

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interceptor at it's finest

manic folio
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@whole thorn same here got a email off them 3 days later saying looking into it lol it will be over by then nevermind what can we do nothing just wait and see 😣

vagrant topaz
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@hollow swallow boss ships yes...the elites that most players are forced to grind for hours on end are all interceptors though. I'm 31 with decent ships so I hit bosses now but I felt the pain of fighting against triangle during first sep event

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It's almost as if scopely knows explorers are trash in pve and give us interceptors to fight in order to drive repair pack sales...nah couldn't be that...right? Right?

raven sluice
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So today we have two days of LB with the same prizes then in one day LB can somebody explain the logic ??

vagrant topaz
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Your question presupposes the existence of logic in anything scopely does

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Also both solos are again 48hr with same rewards and milestones as previous 24hr solos...there is no logic, only scopely

raven sluice
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😂😂

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Even there are no modulators that could be a benefit

astral epoch
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The whole point of this event is for the sake of some refinery rss which aren't even something special tbh

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I can get 10x more just by raiding in a few hours

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Even then franklin freq modukator req are ridiculous

whole crag
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Why have you guys not adjusted 35 swarm HHP or the crit /attack dmg? Are you still processing feedback?

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I can spell suck any number of ways. Two hulls at best then out is Frankliny stupid

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In binary 011001001111010101010011010101000011001100

sand stratus
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but wait, there are mystery rewards for the series of mission tonight, that dont seem to be providing anything at all. That's a bonus

mild glacier
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@raven sluice @vagrant topaz the extended time is for people who can't smash through the entire event rewards in an hour. it gives more of the player base more time to actually finish more of the rewards.

marsh depot
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@mild glacier i think scopely simply dont want to give out that much event rewards. The first 2 days noone complained about it beeing to short period of time for the events. I dont know anyone who couldnt do the events in 24hours. I

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I really enjoyed 22(?)uncommon per day in addition.

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On the other hand I can understand Scopelys behavior. They are a company that has to earn money to pay their Members. So they try to sell packs as much as possible. Its not always the best way for f2p players. But you wouldnt go to work if your company wouldnt pay you at the end of the month either.

spark dawn
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But this was planned from the beginning. It wasn’t in response to player behavior. That’s what doesn’t make sense

marsh depot
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That sounds weird..

gilded edge
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thats not even a 32 bit which would be required to encode 4 letters into binary 😛

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@whole crag 01110011011101010110001101101011

whole crag
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It didn’t get concatenated 😉

vagrant topaz
hazy orbit
hazy orbit
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That is not earned "from special events".

vagrant topaz
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I know

hazy orbit
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Just another event to feed the spenders. Ranked events seem to be specifically designed for them.

raven sluice
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You will win when you buy 100 euro pack niceee

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P2W it would be better if they write earn by paying

hasty hemlock
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@hazy orbit it's earned from the special event of spend $100 on its pack

frozen smelt
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Agreed. You’d think they’d make the egregious cash grab a little more subtle.

hasty hemlock
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The pack isn't even a good deal imo, normal recruit packs are a way better value

mild glacier
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That event is an absolutely shameless cash grab. We all balked the second we saw it.

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the funny part is, the material gets used in a recruit payout, but ayone large enough to be buying those packs isn't likely to do so because they probably already have all that crew maxed.

raw axle
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You can win the event by using normal recruit tokens, or buy some fed ones in factuon store....

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Some people save up recruit tokens for special events, x2 chance etc...

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@hasty hemlock agree, it's very poor value... you get 75 shards of specific set of officers where a normal pack gives you 90 rare/epic and 200 uncommons+, faction credits and more xp

hasty hemlock
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plus you lose the chance at instant officers, the swarm chests have the same drop rates as fed chests

raw axle
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Well they have keenser which isn't available otherwise, and yeah I got 33 kerla shards last night from an ultra recruit pull

hasty hemlock
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true but you can get keenser in 3 weeks of loyalty crates

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and hes still not worth it

raw axle
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well he's a rare officer, when promoted he'll at least be good in the back seat

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and since weekly chests gives more UC than monthly, I'll probably get him promoted in couple of weeks

coarse sentinel
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Seriously @prime gulch @cobalt elm <@&509691205798592532> , how in the world are the middle band of players supposed to compete in these events?

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I think 192M is a respectable number, but 35k tritanium as my reward????

vagrant topaz
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Well, it is relative to the server you are on and the work people put into it. Since it is ranked event.

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The issue being that it is inclusive of all levels and isn't tiered.

coarse sentinel
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This is a constant thorn in the side of the players @vagrant topaz , has there been any discussion with Scopely dev on making events more rewarding based on the level of the player relative to other players in that same tier?

minor glen
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Agreed, and that is something we as mods are pushing for

coarse sentinel
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Thanks @minor glen

vagrant topaz
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Yes, I think making it available to win reasonable rewards as a middle tier player is important. I think certain ranked events need to be split based on difficulty.

tropic flame
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If it requires money spent it's not an event it's a purchase

coarse sentinel
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Even Scopely push notification says for the event to use the Franklin. Points for this event should only come from swarm kills using the Franklin.

raw axle
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well my guess is that with a properly tiered up Franklin (only available with $$$ at this stage), you could get a decent ranking, but not any other way

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if I had completed my dailies at 28 it will give me the odd 25M, I just don't bother further

coarse sentinel
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@raw axle that’s simply not true. At least not on my server. The 1M+ battle strength faction ships are almost exclusively used to get into the 3-4B points level

tropic flame
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Epictesus we are on the same server and generally you make since. But he honest and call a horse a freaking horse. This event is set up as another money grab.

raw axle
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btw 192M on our server would put you in top 30

coarse sentinel
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To get into the top 30 on my server I would need a minimum of 566M points

chrome dust
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It just plain needs to be tiered base off of level

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Otherwise it’s the same people every event LB

raw axle
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@coarse sentinel ok, different servers different players... can't argue with that, I haven't seen any 1M+ ships on our server yet

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in both cases, it requires $$$ to make it high up

coarse sentinel
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Agreed. Which is why applying the same rewards across all servers not taking into consideration age of player and battle strength is a completely short sighted view of event management across the player base

chrome dust
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Our first place guy has 2.8B to give an idea

coarse sentinel
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Seems like you are on a similar aged server as I am. 4B for top spot on mine

chrome dust
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And 51st place is 17m all that for 35k tritanium lol

raw axle
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well I did 54M just with the event/dailies and I'm 161, so not even 35K trit lol

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@coarse sentinel I've been playing since mid-december, we have a lvl37 and couple of 33+, just don't think any of them spent enough for a 1M ship

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the 37 might even be 39 by now, that's when I checked last week

chrome dust
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I’ve done all my solo and all my dailies I’m at 19m and rank 367

raw axle
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@chrome dust ops level?

chrome dust
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22

coarse sentinel
raw axle
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ohh ok well at 28 you get 25Mish for dailies

chrome dust
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All the more reason for it to be tiered

raw axle
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@coarse sentinel but player strength doesn't mean they have a 1M+ ship?

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but yeah... top one on our server is 4M 😄

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and he's 38 by now

chrome dust
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Well I’m on a server with more then one level 39

raw axle
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4 more 34s

chrome dust
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Sooo we got no chance at anything

coarse sentinel
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Exactly! And even when we work our butts off to try and compete, we get marginal rewards for our efforts

raw axle
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well it's a factor of $$$ spent and nothing else

coarse sentinel
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That’s the issue I have with this LB event. I’m fine with people getting the top tier prizes, but for the rest of us, give us more than 35k tritanium FFS

vagrant topaz
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You guys forgot to include rewards for this week's mining event.

harsh geode
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I can't believe they went directly from mining event to another mining event.

boreal canyon
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Here's some feedback, this is worthless. Three days for this?

harsh geode
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No bonus refinery either.

vagrant topaz
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Yup. Not worth participation

boreal canyon
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No alliance either. Nice

raw axle
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well they sometimes have delays with some events or it's a nice photoshop 😄

harsh geode
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What's a nice photoshop? That's precisely the even reward that I see for the mining event.

vagrant topaz
granite abyss
fleet osprey
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Rewards on mining milestones: nope none.

urban nest
hasty hemlock
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Ops 29

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Previous events at this level were 6/2/1 steel trit dil tokens

open otter
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Is there a alliance leaderboard?

hollow swallow
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That looks just like the level 39 rewards @hasty hemlock ! haha

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Oh wait I think I got 15 more parsteel

hasty hemlock
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There is no alliance leaderboard

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Lmao @hollow swallow

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Now the solo leaderboard has better rewards but I don't have the patience to babysit miners for 3 days to compete in it

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The solo milestone isn't even worth sticking my ship on a node for

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So guess I'll just keep doing my dailies

open otter
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This keeps popping up

hasty hemlock
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6 days?

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Well that sucks

open otter
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Lol, I didn't pay attention to the length

hollow swallow
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Every server will be at war after 6 days of mining events

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I guess since the rewards are so bad nobody really cares tho

boreal canyon
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At this point they're just trying to be mean. 😢

storm mulch
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@minor glen @vagrant topaz this isn’t out of order guys is it 😳

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I take it it was sorry 😔

tropic folio
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I’m not bothering

golden whale
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I am trying to find out how you get more northstar bps without paying. I have tried searching but some info is too old or the info is inconsistent. I know there are some from mission rewards but from what I have researched not enough to build the ship. Some have said the rest can be earned through events. Which events give northstar bps? Or do they at all anymore? I am at ops 18, the current pay store has northstar offer but there don't seem to be any rewarded from the mining event which is the event I assumed you could get them from.

clever nest
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Can leaderboards get tiered? Mining event leaderboard, kill swarm leaderboard, etc. currently guarantee whoever's in the top 50 on a server will win. It's just wasted space for most of the server.

tough pasture
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Mine 240k *3 for some minimal dilithium 🤔 uhm

mild glacier
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You have got to be kidding me! Uncommon crystal, one of the rarest resources in the game in exchange for shards for one of the most useless officers? Is this some kind of joke?

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Would would participate in this garbage?

leaden zealot
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You get them spending them. So as you’re spending you get points towards it. You have to spend it anyway.

raw axle
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@mild glacier why complain about everything? You get something extra for spending uc crystal is how I see it

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Too bad it didn't start 2 days ago when I spent 425 on my sally but ohh well

mild glacier
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@raw axle why not? if we don't say anything the devs think everything is just hunky-dory and go about continually producing bad content...oh wait...That's still happening. Exactly what extra do you get? a fraction of a terrible officer? I'd rather have a bit more ship power, at least I can use that for something.

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It's a feedback channel. What am I supposed to do here spew false praise?

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I can do that.

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Oh great and mighty developers! Thank you for providing us with this award winning masterpiece of software engineering to which we may devote our time and emotional well being! We admire and appreciate the care you've taken to create such a well designed and refined piece of gaming glory, and we look forward to the fantastic artwork assets to come!

raw axle
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@mild glacier at 28 I can get 90 shards (if I had 800UC which I did last week lol), so that will allow me to promote him. Even if he was a terrible officer (and he isn't) he is an epic officer which will give a lot of extra attack bonus in the back seat

raven sluice
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@mild glacier Gorkon is most useful officer in game in fact there are four Kirk Spock Gorkon Kerla ahhh and there is Harrison 😉

fleet osprey
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Ok Gorkon: useless: LOL best officer for npc hunt unless you have Harrison. And even if you have harrison gorkon can much easier be leveled.

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But we would desperately need another fraction credit event...

stoic gorge
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Would be nice... and something with event store wr can buy trit tokens and bps.. no freaking cooldown this time

astral moss
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I would suggest having few days break between events....

raw axle
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isn't that what a mining event with crappy rewards is?

exotic iris
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@astral moss people will moan there isn’t an event if you have a break between events ha

unkempt shore
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Why have a break in events? If you need a break skip an event...

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I suggest this one as its terrible

astral moss
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@raw axle You are right 😃

storm mulch
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Hurrah for the refinery bonus that’s all I can say 🙏🙏🙌🙌🥳🥳🥳🥳

leaden zealot
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@fleet osprey Harrison at level 10 is WAY better than Gorkon is at level 15/20.

raw axle
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@leaden zealot for doing what?

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plus, for those of us who don't have harrison, it's not really relevant since there is no way of getting him

main brook
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Anybody know if there's ever going to be another Jellyfish event?

leaden zealot
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@raw axle PvP and PvE and up until Carol was released, base hitting.

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And there is that.

mild glacier
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I could use some explanation as to why people think Gorkon is good. I've tried him several times and found him extremely underwhelming. he's been relegated permanently to the lower decks just for his stats.

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Is he bugged? does his captain ability proc way more than advertized? I haven't noticed anything amazing about him.

boreal canyon
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@mild glacier he's incredible on the saladin. The first gun to fire on the saladin is it's huge kinetic weapon. When gorkon is used with his crew, put kerla for increased crit damage, and mral for bonus attack, you also stack attack officers on lower decks to reach higher bonus damage. Doing this gives you basically around a 40% chance to one shot your opponent. The kinetic gun easily hits for 500k at mid levels and can hit for over 1 million at higher tiers. It eats through the shield and hull in one hit. He's great for hostile hunting because you take little damage as the battles last few rounds, and for pvp as its hard to come back from a 250k-500k damage spike after mitigation. If you're lucky enough to have Harrison, he becomes even more ludicrous, further ensuring your death in the first round of combat.

raw axle
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Plus hull breach seems to add extra damage to crits, although that will be more useful on an explorer or other ships that fires at a better rate

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with Vakhlas or Franklin for example you're looking at (potentially) 8 higher damage crits, no matter which round he procs

fiery warren
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@boreal canyon Saladin guns are energy

boreal canyon
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They are labeled incorrectly. Kerla affects the damage of gun one, and his ability increases kinetic crit damage.

unborn dagger
vagrant topaz
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Bonus refinery needs to be use limited over the length of event with a cooldown

brittle wyvern
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@boreal canyon is that setup any good on kumari? I’ve tested a few setups and found cadet uhura, cadet Kirk and Chen (swapping tlan for swarm) the best npc setup. What stat do you put down below, mostly attack?

boreal canyon
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@brittle wyvern I've seen people use it on kumari, so it's ok. Personally I use the same as you, except I use cadet spock instead of kirk. Usually try to strike a a balance on the lower decks.

brittle wyvern
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I’ve found kras up top a good counter to gorcon, but you have to be the attacker though to get the full benefit of kras. Koth, gorcon and kras

tribal gyro
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Did you get bonus again?

wooden quarry
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You should have a set amount of uses for the bonus refinery vs a timed availability... 3 runs that can be used whenever you want

nocturne turtle
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Why is the D3 my only Hijacked ship option??? I am Federation and Augments Factions so where is the Legionary or Mayflower????
Why can level 32 players not see any ships?

You guys love 💰 to get it let us buy the ships we want!! Offer all the ships to everyone

serene spear
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Did you get bonus rafinery after second part of mining event?

unkempt shore
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I have none of the hijacked ships showing. Not sure there is any rhyme or reason to it

signal dew
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Difficulty to reward on mining leaderboard is absolutely perfectly idealy broken.

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You can get to top 50 mining like mad man. It grants 8uncommons. You can get to top 20 aaaand you get 2 uncommons more but it requires sweeping your credit card to get to this point. Top ten is insanity and grands whopping... 12 uc. Its.. Um... Not worth the efford to get higher than top 50 at all. And getting to top 20 is crazy difficult. Mining all the time with horizon, and envoy, second envoy changing miners so no hits for loot and when IDLE and free spot avail, its mining too. And barely in top 50

raven sluice
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Ego based only 😉

signal dew
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?

timber bloom
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Why didn't everyone over 26 get the options for the hijacked ships in their store? I spent all my event credits on BPs for the Legionary bc that's the only one my reputation is not correctable for; but because of the purchase limits could only get 35 of them....now I hear that others have them available to purchase in their stores, but all I have are the regular mayflower and saladin options. I'm 28, and just want the legionary bc I want one faction ship from each, not because I plan to really use it for anything

mystic kraken
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What’s next ? 🤗

gritty crag
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@prime gulch are we going to see some better events or do the mining/domination bullshit continue?

tough ingot
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@prime gulch #AnecdotesForTheMarketResearchFile

All due respect to the devs, when my nearby electronics store has a promotion "Spend $500 and get a 2% rebate", I think "Lol, they have no idea how to market their products, and they must think I am really dumb if they will spend money on advertising for this rebate." These global domination events and rebates are counter productive marketing tools for the in-game store. Sure, they create resource-pressure which can drive revenue, but to any consequential, paying consumer, calculating the profitability of "winning" these events consumes more of the precious enjoyment-capital of this game than they are worth. TLDR: Pay2Win isn't a sound business model in boring games.

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I want this game to succeed, and I think you are a good community manager. Just wanted to offer an opinion.

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I forgot to provide a solution: Run the separatist events 24/7.

swift grotto
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roving pvp events all the time with awesome rewards

placid bear
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OMG, the gas replicator is a joke at level 30. Use 510 uncommon g3 gas for a grand total of 13 g3 uncommon gas? Bottom 2 reward 1 each, top 2 reward 6 and 5. There's more tiers but not worth looking at.

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Look up the definition for replicate please.

lone tundra
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@placid bear there is another tier with 110 gas

placid bear
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It's not the same as ripoff

lone tundra
rain skiff
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@placid bear your right. its worse.

toxic falcon
barren shore
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@prime gulch <@&509691205798592532> please relay this message to whose ever idea this was..... Ahem.... "Really?"
Or ask to distribute a survey for this
Please
Players, please like this for support

feral sun
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I thought events were supposed to drive player engagement and activity... which therefore leads to increased spending. Separatists and Faction events come to mind. These last few events have made me the least engaged with this game since starting at the beginning of the year. I’m hardly a whale but I have regularly purchased overpriced packs because I enjoy the game... at this rate I’m ready to find a new place to spend my money.

lost lintel
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Ok where can I get info on the Zhan wuests?

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Khan

rustic jasper
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What is the next event??

grim carbon
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When is the next interesting event? Please don’t churn out boringly useless events

storm mulch
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If there is a shred of humanity in that cesspool scopely for the love of god please do not do another mining event FarmVille is killing me 🙏🙏🙏🙏

lilac kayak
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will you mine stuff for bacon @storm mulch ?!

storm mulch
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Well bacon 🥓 is perhaps a worthwhile reward 😀🤔

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But it needs to be a crap load of bacon

lilac kayak
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goood then enjoy a whole weekend dedicated to mine !

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haha said envoy

storm mulch
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😱🤣🤣🤣

lilac kayak
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a horizon packed with 🥓

storm mulch
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This is me right now because events are crap if they do a mining event i really will snap its coming i can feel it

lilac kayak
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mining dil...omg

storm mulch
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Flipper system mate I have 10 mil but flipper systems don’t get me started

lilac kayak
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hate those dil/*3 systems

raw axle
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it get's better when you have a horizon but not really 😄

storm mulch
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Nope it doesn’t I have two 😱🤦‍♂️

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That’s a level 45 flipper system

raw axle
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I mean at least you can mine that dil at like 3k/hrs and not 1k/hr

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but yeah archer have 14K dil mines just to piss you off

storm mulch
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It’s still crap even with domitia 5 hours for a 14k dill mine 😭

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I can do a 40k gas mine with Tpring in that time

raw axle
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hehehehe

nocturne turtle
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Any chance you could choose the Augment Hijacked ships you like. I am Federation and Augments Factions. I was offered the D3 but just got the Salidin Interceptor. I really wanted the Legionary Battleship or a second Mayflower but did not get the choice.
If offered, I would have bought one of these. How do they choose the ship to offer??

vagrant topaz
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Wait...you have a payflower and want another? Your nurse needs to up your meds #payflowersucks

unkempt shore
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Some of us didn't get any hijacked ships offered so I really dont think there is any rhyme or reason much less logic to it.

livid owl
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I got 0 hijacked offered

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There does not seem to be rhyme or reason

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I'm 6 million ish fed and Klingon. I have d3 but no flower

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I would not have bought hijacked flower if I could, but just saying you would think.id be offerdd

unkempt shore
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I wasn't either and people in my alliance both below and above ops and rep wise got them so who knows

raven sluice
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@vagrant topaz at tier 7 it doesn’t suck 😉

vagrant topaz
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Still sucks at hostile farming, it gets ok at pvp and hostile npc's at t7 but it still sucks at what should've been it's main job, farming klingons for rep...

whole notch
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@prime gulch why no tritanium as rewards for the event?
Can't we at least get enough to cover our repair costs?

raven sluice
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Yyyy they lower the prizes again??

boreal canyon
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@whole notch remember the solo dominion event you just completed that awarded millions of trit? There ya go.

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<@&509690795536941056> everyone is my alliance is very happy with these awesome rewards, ty for taking a step back in the right direction 🖖

whole notch
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That only works if they tell you in advance what events are coming so you don't spend it on other things

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Agree the rewards are getting better, just asking for some balance to them

boreal canyon
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@whole notch maybe you should plan ahead yourself and see what event comes next before blowing it. It's not their fault you spent it. Sure they could communicate better but you kinda should know by now that they don't.

wooden quarry
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Throw in some unreliable shields, mixed w Salads that can one shot your base... sure, I’ll hoard a stash of trit just to wait and see what event is on the horizon

grave nacelle
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DEAR SCOPLEY Im wondering whoever designing these events if he/she knows average player's power and capability. I couldnt finish franklin event and now Battle for glory event with same logic. Im suppose to kill 1600 hostile lvl28-29 or 266 hostiles lvl31 or 80 hostiles lvl32 . my most powerfull ship 280k . after i kill 5-7 lvl32 it requires 3 hrs repair. lets say i decided to kill lvl28 if each kill take 20sec 1600 kill will take about 9 hrs, if u add3 hr repair time for every 100-150 kills , with any scenario its impossble to reach goal and finish event in given time.

raw axle
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@grave nacelle why do you consider yourself to have an 'average player power'? Let me guess you only have a T5 Kumari as your strongest ship and you use some variation of Romulan crew to kill faction explorers?

grave nacelle
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yes , I have those and i consoder myself average player who is playing for 9months non stop everyday , without paying money . And ? who are you? scopley employee?

raw axle
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Lol nope not an employee, just another player who wants to help...

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Ideally at 28 you should have a faction ship to be able to complete events 'easily' but even with just your Kumari you can probably double up the amount of kills per repair

grave nacelle
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I want to hear from them if Im doin something wrong or this is streategy issue and im missing somthing? or if events designed for only paying customers , then they need to say that on event description so we dont waste our time.

raw axle
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Well if you want to hear from them you can try contacting support as the best option, but they don't usually help tell you about strategy... that's part of what the community is for

grave nacelle
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its not seems possible, im lv29 I have saladdin around 285k with some romulan officers with interceptor bonuses , Im only attacking battlesship hostiles which intercepto has advantage but still cant kill so many in short time and its repair time about 3hr 45min

raw axle
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Go there, put cadet uhura as captain with Chen and instr. Spock and try to kill the lvl32 battleships

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See if you can do it in 1 round

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If not then you might want to try increasing damage for example by using instr. Spock as captain

grave nacelle
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thanks i will try that in few hrs ,

hasty hemlock
mild glacier
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@hasty hemlock They're not, rares are far harder to get than uncommons, the rewards are fine. What's not fine is that only 5 alliances get any reward at all. Literally no incentive for more than a 5-8 alliances to even attempt competing.

hasty hemlock
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And yet I need 1600 uncommons and 50 rares

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So no, for me the uncommon are a substantially better reward

mild glacier
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The allaince leaderboard needs to be tiered. The event itself awards higher level players more trophies, and the more powerful alliances have more higher level players. It's heavily unbalanced, just like so many other things in this game. Leaderboards should be a competition, not a free lunch for the rich.

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and while we're at it: FIX THE SPAWNS!!! Every time you have an event like this it takes less than an hour for every system in the game to be completely depleted of the 20 point hostiles and that situation is persistent long past the end of the event. There are also multiple daily kill missions and those hostiles are perpetually depleted as well. hostile hunting is the most active thing most players in the game do, when they can't find what they want to hunt they get frustrated. When they get frustrated they stop playing. when they stop playing the stop paying. FIx it!

raven sluice
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Don’t you guys think that starting burst in middle of night is idiotic ??

hasty hemlock
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no, just scopely things

dusky sleet
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kindly change burst events name to "who has spent more money on game" or fkk you mid-low levels and your alliances.

placid bear
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<@&509691205798592532> would you pass the word along, if they run the battle for glory events to please add some level 34s of explorers in romulan space? there are only interceptors and battleships of those levels and the few 34 interceptors aren't even romulan faction so no faction points gained/loss as they are gorn marauders.

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bad enough level 30 players only get 1 point for level 30 and 31 ships, 2 points for 32, 6 points for 33 then 20 points for 34+

gilded edge
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dont hunt interceptors but something else then ?

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I have the same issue, but I simply pick something else to kill then, a different type, for example battle ship/explorer

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yes, might be harder to accomplish, but you can

placid bear
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my best ship is kumari. i have to repair explorer more often. can get more kills out of kumari and every faction space should have at least one of each type ship of each level.

gilded edge
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I am level 24 and need to kill 27's with my ns

placid bear
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especially with events like this and its scoring

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level 30 is 34+ for the 20 points.

gilded edge
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as I am unable to kill higher

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yes, that would be 28 for me

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I am glad if I am able to reach the first two milestones

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as there is also life besides gaming

hasty hemlock
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lies

gilded edge
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so you are one of these players that lock themself up in a basement for months ?

hasty hemlock
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of course 😉

placid bear
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not everyone can spend 4+ hours each event roll around to achieve all the rewards. 3+ hours just killing level 30-32s and this is how far i have got.

hasty hemlock
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@placid bear what ship and crew are you using? can you post them here?

gilded edge
placid bear
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@hasty hemlock this is my explorer working lvl 33 interceptors in Aesir trying to get 34 interceptors to spawn again.

gilded edge
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sadly, the spawning is random

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I wish they would at least balance that

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ensure a mix of various levels

placid bear
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@hasty hemlock and this is my kuari working the 30-32s in lempo

gilded edge
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when I enter a level 27 system, I don't like it being filled with only 26's

placid bear
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unfortunately there is only 2 lvl 34 systems in rom space, one is 32 warp. kaisu (33) has all battleships, Argentomea is all inteceptors and survey ships.

hasty hemlock
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no faction ship?

placid bear
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and i never upgraded the kehra past tier 4 because of uncommons and takes at least to tier 6+ before it gets decent in these levels.

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nope, not dishing out the money for half the bps needed for a faction shi[p

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i got 15 legionary bp from event 3 months ago and it hasn't returned. not paying $200 for a faction ship

hasty hemlock
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yea but you should be close to the lvl 28 ships by now from faction tokens, no?

placid bear
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negative.

hasty hemlock
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😦

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I got both my saladin and centurion by grinding those =\

gilded edge
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I am 24 and didn't reach the needed faction level for bp's either

placid bear
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i was associate rom but decided to bring down my klingon rep

hasty hemlock
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anyway back to the question at hand

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im assuming your vahk needs scotty to reach the level 34 system?

placid bear
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problem is there are no level 34 explorer class ships in romulan space

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yeah

hasty hemlock
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how much damage from each weapon does your vahk do turn 1 of combat?

placid bear
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and scotty right now to reach teh one with the mix of interceptors and battleships in Aesir

hasty hemlock
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ok give me a few mins to test something with my kumari

placid bear
gilded edge
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just plain officers ? don't see any buffs

placid bear
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i only captured the battle itself,

hasty hemlock
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ok

gilded edge
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yes, but I miss the top

placid bear
hasty hemlock
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so try this, on your vahklas swap kirk and spock for cadet uhura and tlaan

gilded edge
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who is your third officer ?

hasty hemlock
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scotty

placid bear
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cadet scotty for the warp

hasty hemlock
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to reach the system

gilded edge
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ah, he does nothing much

placid bear
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exactly

hasty hemlock
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on your kumari, keep harrison where he is, put blue bones as captain, put grace chen third slot

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take it to Azati lvl 34

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(its right next to thama)

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and you should have much better success

placid bear
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k, swapping them out

gilded edge
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3 systems left of vendus a if I am not mistaken

placid bear
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yeah i was going there before

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but point is to get some faction rep

hasty hemlock
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siioux is an option for the kumari too

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in fed space

placid bear
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can;t do that as there are only interceptors, battleships and survey ships of level 33-34

gilded edge
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well, hence why I am only after klingons in my faction battles

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but the romulan reputation event also screws things up 😛

placid bear
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well i was trying to get more of a klingon rep boost and not minding the rep loss for romulan as it helped decrese my daily faction task for npcs

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i stopped doing the daily romulan event for that reason

hasty hemlock
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thats fair

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but id say the top milestone is worth sacrificing some of your rep grind

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ok so I tested cuhura ckirk chen with my kumari, looking like i can get 5 lvl 34 fed explorers down per repair, mine is a full teir lower than yours. harrison also should make a big difference for you

placid bear
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oh and another reason i've not bought the pack for the centurion, it's only 34 bp, i have 32 already but need 100 total, so spending $200 and to still be shy 2 bp.... definitely not worth the money for me

hasty hemlock
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Yours should substantially outperform mine

placid bear
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i'm 2 minutes out from azati

hasty hemlock
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Cool beans! Good luck

placid bear
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thanks RK

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and @gilded edge i know there is some randomness from spawns but i've found most times killing the lowest levels in the system will spawn the level above the system ships.

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kind of like a ladder in a way

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so if i kill levels 30s in a system that is full of them, the 32s spawn. killing the 32s spawn the 31s... most times

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i prefer to be efficient but sometimes have to clear the trash to get my objective level ships needed

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@hasty hemlock that setup does work better so far on the kumari for this in Azati. killed 2x 34s and 35 and still have just overhalf a hull.

hasty hemlock
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nice

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try to avoid the 35s

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the higher level the less effective harrison is

placid bear
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yeah, unfortunately there were only 2 level 34s. all the rest are 35s, so i have to kill some of them. lol

hasty hemlock
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lol fair enough

placid bear
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managed 2 of each before recalling for repair with 29k hull left

hasty hemlock
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save yourself some time, just kerplode

placid bear
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lol, did and relocated closer to azati for now

hasty hemlock
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lol

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also you can try cadet spock or cadet kirk over harrison

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sorry, cadet uhura captain, cadet kirk or spock

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instead of using the vahklas entirely

placid bear
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yeah i'm parking the vahklas as I only need 8 more lvl 34+ to finish now

hasty hemlock
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yea i think thats the play, the kumari doesnt have enough punch to make full use of harrison on those level hostiles

proven delta
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Im sorry but these events are pointless. no lower level player has a chance of winning when you are up against people who spend masses on this game. Also when your targets are stupidly high its pointless. I cannot kill level 30s at 26, to get the top prize by killing level 29s would have to kill 334 of them. given i can take out 4 maybe 5 before repairs would take me masses of time to do this. ok i could also hit level 28s and kill maybe 12 a time but that just means need to kill 1000 of them. so regardless its too much time to do it.

raw axle
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@proven delta what is your strongest ship?

proven delta
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@raw axle Kumari 150k

raw axle
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then sorry but probably you won't be able to do the event... at 26 you should have had your Kumari around 250K+ then it would have been a walk in the park...

winged axle
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@proven delta I am F2P player and I can finish the event with one trip and half of my kum's hull remaining at lvl 25

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You just lvled up too fast without upgrading your ships

split summit
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research everything you can, before lvl up ops

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try to focus onto battleship researchs, they give a significant boost to kumari

wooden quarry
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Yea... lvl 26 myself. 250k Kumari is absolutely necessary to compete/complete these events. If yours is still mid 100’s, that’s a significant mismatch of strength.

split summit
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i'm lvl 24, with my 230k kumari can easily kill 45 lvl 29 explorers in a single run (900 points archieved for top tier)

raw axle
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Burst events are now completely out of ballance as the only way to win is have several players with high level franklins hitting swarm, which is only achievable for those who spent on it during the swarm event

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For comparison screenshots from today's event vs the one before the swarm when everyone was hitting bosses

mild glacier
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@raw axle we had the exact same experience. There's no way to win these events anymore unless you're in an alliance filled with almost nothing but whales.

winged axle
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Possible @mild glacier

mild glacier
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@winged axle you must not have whale alliances, those are very low scores. 1st place on ours was over 4 bilion points. 2nd barely cracked 1 bil

winged axle
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Nah.It is because no one tried swarms except our alliance @mild glacier

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And we are 7th in power

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I hold my swarm dailies for burst event

mild glacier
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@winged axle we were the first ones on swarms. everyone else discovered out tactic and very quickly smashed all our ships and took over.

winged axle
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It didnt spread out in my server.Players were still killing sep bosses for points

mild glacier
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some still did seps, most went to swarms pretty quickly

untold rose
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We have enough people with 2 fully tiered Franklins. It goes pretty fast then

mild glacier
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1st place was 4bil, 2nd barely had 1bil, 3rd thru 5th looked about like your numbers.

winged axle
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We have 30-40 with maxed Franklins,but they didnt used it during burst event

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@mild glacier maybe there is a huge unbalance between your alliances

mild glacier
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maxed ships is pretty much what it requires

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@winged axle oh there absolutely is, whale alliance dominates everything

winged axle
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Our T5 is pretty close to each other

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And we are 20m power away from T5

raw axle
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@winged axle the problem isn't alliance power... it's the imbalance created by those who have maxed franklins

mild glacier
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we have one alliance that sometimes challenges them, but no one else is even close

winged axle
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Our first 2 alliances almost have same power,third one is 20m away from second alliance.4th and 5th ones are almost same

raw axle
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Other leaderboard events are ok and there's always a good fight between the top 10-20 alliances or so

mild glacier
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we don't even bother participating in most leaderboards, the results are virtually always a foregone conclusion

winged axle
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It was our first time to win a burst event.We didnt expected it,but suddenly a lvl 30 from our alliance start to hit swarms at the last min @mild glacier

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We win by 500k points

mild glacier
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we're #7 in our server and come in at that rank virtually every time. alliance power ranking exactly matches event ranking for all the top 10.

winged axle
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During burst events,it mostly about who has more higher players online at a specific time

mild glacier
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and the devs in their benevolent wisdom only give rewards to the top 5, who are almost exclusively whales.

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one event only had top 3, that was a joke.

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It's all about high level players, there's no scaling or sense of competition whatsoever.

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it makes for a very boring game. you'll never advance because the devs wont let you.

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unless of course you're willing to part with the $$$$$$$$$$$$

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You don't really earn much in this game unless you've already paid for it, at which point you don't really need to earn it anymore cuz you've already gotten it. It's ridiculous planning to say the least.

raw axle
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@mild glacier it was top 3, now top 5 which is a step in the right direction it just needs some balancing to overcome the franklin/swarm issue

winged axle
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T5 is good.But they should change the amount of points received from swarms and sep bosses

raw axle
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In previous events even 24+ with a Kumari and a burning crew had a chance to help the alliance, now it's pointless

mild glacier
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Yep, now it's max Franklin or bust.

raw axle
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Well with my sally I can score a decent amount of points to help, but no way anyone below 26 with a faction ship can do anything

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I could have probably done around 50-60M by non stop playing for an hour

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But it's a drop compared to what you could do with a franklin

mild glacier
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I honestly didn't think many people would catch on to the swarm thing, most went straight to the bosses. It only took a few minutes though before someone did some experimenting and found out how many points swarms gave. I was hoping that would give us a short lead in time for an advantage, but even with virtually everyone hunting that lead disappeared the minute others jumped on swarms.

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It IS nice however that at least with swarms lower level players can contribute at least a little. the seperatists are virtually impossible for many low to mid level players.

raw axle
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The mid level players would usually just hit normal npcs

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It's now even more insignificant

chrome stump
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the point multiplier still applies to separatist boss damage, at least the fly text indicates it does

raw axle
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The fly text counts your entire alliance points

chrome stump
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correct and it displays how much your kill adds to it

raw axle
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Nope, how much your alliance kills added to it since the last kill

verbal herald
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Scopely, the timing on the burst events does not seem to take real life into consideration. This morning's was an absolutely atrocious time for the central time zone, and even worse for west coast players.

coarse sentinel
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<@&509691205798592532> I know this has been said and resaid but what possible reasons could Scopely have for not letting us know what’s coming up event wise? Most other games tell players in advance of events. I for the life of me cannot see any positive reason to withhold it from the community and only tell people right before the event starts. Some people might actually want to plan their ingame time around that encouraging more participation which would be a win for scopely. I’m just looking for any reason given as to why this isn’t available and is constantly being withheld from the community.

raw axle
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It was perfect for us in Europe @verbal herald ;)

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I wish they could do them with better geographic alignment as the 1st one was at 2am

bronze dune
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I agree

verbal herald
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@raw axle I never figured that Europe would have the exact same burst event times. 🙄

raw axle
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Right @verbal herald ?

polar token
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@coarse sentinel i wish I had an answer for you. I too would find it very helpful.

coarse sentinel
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What would it take to get Scopely to provide a response?

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This is one that they owe the community to either say its coming or no we can pound sand

vagrant topaz
coarse sentinel
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Understood but someone at Scopely needs to respond or we are all just screaming into the wind.

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Tell us it’s on the roadmap and I’ll be fine with that

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But recognize that it’s unreasonable and quite frankly deceptive to not allow more notice of these events. I find them as a matter of happenstance logging into the game and checking

vagrant topaz
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Panic's our go-to guy and it seems his hands are tied on the subject. As such, I don't believe continued requests for a calendar will aid the effort anymore.
Due to both you and ourselves, they're very much aware of the demand and as such, it's now a matter of waiting and seeing what happens.

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I can't speak for any reasoning behind the decision as it stands now but I trust there are people in place that do. It's in their best interest to ensure people are as happy as possible because that is their bread after all.

coarse sentinel
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And I’m not beating up on anyone here. But in any organization where services are provided in exchange for money, there is usually a path of escalation

vagrant topaz
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Escalation has occurred but that does not necessarily entail change.

coarse sentinel
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Fair point but as I say in my business a no today doesn’t mean no tomorrow.

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Anything you can do to keep this issue front and center as a continual ask would be appreciated

vagrant topaz
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Design, development and marketing elements of the game are set in stone for quarters or even longer periods of time.
I wish it didn't have to be that way but it's a standard for good reason - that being, to plan things ahead and not make ad-hoc changes to said plans.
I'm sure this will be introduced at some stage - and we're doing everything, EVERYTHING to push this specific subject.
Because indeed, as you started with - this has been said and resaid - and honestly then some.

CaptainEpictetus was recently interviewed on the responsibilities of being a moderator, you'll find that video in the #📺-streams-and-videos channel if you'd care for some insights. 😄

I don't always have the time or energy to answer to people in a lengthy fashion such as this, which people quickly view as us not taking these subjects seriously, but we do. We so absolutely do.
So I hope this has instilled some trust on the subject but again, time will tell and further patience is needed. 😅

coarse sentinel
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I’ll put it this way. The way events are handled is akin to “word of mouth”. Someone sees something and then broadcasts that to their network. That’s wrong. It’s unfair and deceptive because it means there is a competitive advantage where none should exist.

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I saw the interview with Rev and that’s why I understand as volunteers your roles are often times selfless and I have to take a moment and thank you all for your selfless efforts making up for deficiencies presented in Scopelys business model

vagrant topaz
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On that first bit I want to say, it also forms tighter connections amongst each other as players and drives people to design tools of their own to improve the overall experience for everyone.
So I wouldn't call that unfair or deceptive - just different and personally not something I experience or have experienced - but perhaps that's because I'm a bit of a social creature and got into a nice alliance pretty quick.

And thanks a lot for saying that, I'll just snip that bit real quick and share it in the mod-channel to ensure everyone sees. Glad his video gave some proper insights. 😄

coarse sentinel
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Thanks for that. Please pass along that Scopely should take notice because I personally think it violates the spirit of he FTC Act and while there may not be civil liabilities or penalties it is in Scopely’s best interest to make an effort here to avoid any potential FTC investigation into business practices that are unfair and deceptive to the population of players as a whole. I agree mmo’s form communities but that doesn’t remove Scopely’s responsibilities here. I’ll submit an ingame ticket as well but really this shouldn’t be an issue and Scopely is tempting fate by making it one.

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The state of California already legislates far more than other states. Does Scopely really want regulatory agencies involved given the fact that $100M in revenue and $1B in lifetime is at stake?