from level 18-20 it can take some time between then and even then f2p players dont have much resources to upgrade the kehra or three star parts
#💬-events-feedback
vagrant topaz
pure osprey
good luck with that you will get around 48 of 75 and get no more unless your under 18
those of us over 18 dont get the ones from the dominion event and there is only like 48ish available in missions
i got it and have had it for a while
fiery beacon
@snow spoke the most parts you get from missions is 50.
50+20=70
You need 75 parts.
Good luck I guess?
I dont have the jelly, I'm on 52 parts.
I'm now 21 and its not worth buying, the cost is stupidly high for the content
pure osprey
yea its not possible to get for free you pretty much have to buy the small pack at minimal unless they add in more missions , its a freemium ship (part free part paid )
and it is very expensive in repairs and in upgrading
fiery beacon
@snow spoke So your plan is to not lvl for 2 months so you can do the event again?
pure osprey
i havent seen an event giving blueprints for it other than the current dom event for those under 18
fiery beacon
@snow spoke oh you mean the solo event?
Well I hope you get the missions done before the event ends.
I was on 48/75 parts last event and even if I did get the top rewards I wouln't of had enough parts,
Besides you have to spend money to get the top rewards in the event,
See its the illusion of thinking you've outsparted the system of having to spend money by spending money.......
outsmarted*
pure osprey
i finsihed the solo dom event without spending a dime
crude edge
I have got 49 from missions so far and the 5 from Dom event I will be getting the 20 also so just need one more
I know at least two people who have managed to get finished without paying
fiery beacon
only a fool would think they were being smarter then the ppl that designed the artificial market by spending money in it
Did you stall for scaling advantage or something @snow spoke
Did you get to lvl 17 and stop leveling and just maxed out the current ship over a couple of weeks so you can stay ahead of the scaling rss demands by raiding players with said powerful ship.
Its a means of avoiding having to spend money
You sacrifice progress to create a free "jellyfish" esentially
a powerful ship that allows you to farm players rather then mine resources
fiery beacon
It doenst drop from ships
you on the founder servers @snow spoke
?
you DONT
I am lvl 21, I have NEVER seen a jellyfish part from a chest
I haven't met another player in discord or on my server who has either
Three possabilitys @snow spoke
You're lying
You're on the founder server and folling different rules
Scopely have made so many undocumented changes to the game they have accidently removed jelly drops from chests on my server
Considering the online guides state you can only farm 64 parts maxfrom missions
(See what I said about changes, I only got 52)
I'm not inclined to believe you @snow spoke
@snow spoke and what about people without the event???
and why are you saying you can get it legit with the event when you said you can just farm the parts from chests?
I'd happely believe you if you had any proof
yea stefan, the drop rates so low 1000000 chests dont even drop one
I have been playing since release and farm 50-100 chests a day
not a single jelly part
No, it just means its not worth the time invested or that you have to farm a certain level of ship like it only drops from lvl 9-13 ships
You understand this is your word vs the entire communitys information, I'll move on now, this is not constructive
and as its already been stated by ppl from the founder servers they removed the jelly part drops from the game before the first jelly event. So you're more then likely repeating outdated information
empty vector
Bah I finished the don event before the North Star blueprints were added, or they just don’t show up for me
hasty hemlock
@fiery beacon what online guide are you referencing?
tawny wedge
On my server at least two guys claim they got a free jelly. Iam stuck with 53 parts, may have missed some early when i did not care for rewards
rancid cedar
I have 55 jelly prints and have completed every mission outside faction space...and many in faction space.
barren shore
i find it incredibly unfair that during the first dominion event i was too low a lvl to be able to complete the solo dominion event and win the jellyfish shards and so i worked hard to get to where i am and patiently waited for the next dominion event, and now that it's here i am told that because i am too high a lvl i will not get the chance to win the shards, now that i can complete solo event??? come on devs.... what gives...
fiery beacon
@hasty hemlock any one of the number of these that you can find https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6qS7J5l7UE
sacred scarab
I'm at 49/75 from the first event so even if I buy the partial pack I will be 1 short. Been all over today trying to find missions I may have missed that might reward one and have found nothing. Think I'm screwed
vagrant topaz
yer the event ends the day before i get paid
tender moat
@vagrant topaz consider yourself lucky... The jelly is a shiny paperweight... lol
vagrant topaz
still the devs should add enough missions to earn it
tender moat
@vagrant topaz Oh I completely agree, it should be easier to get than the Turas which I consider a better ship...
vagrant topaz
turas maxes at about 33k jely can hit 65k
one of my alliance leader has his at 65k
tender moat
I have a maxed jelly at 72k... I'd rather the Turas... I upgraded the Turas by choice and built more than one...
The Jelly costs too much time and tri to bother with...
My Turas maxes out at 44k with the right crew...
tender moat
It's a nice ship, better than the Jelly, even though it is slightly more expensive than the Jelly it is a LOT more effective...
47k
With the right crew destroys a maxed Jelly
vagrant topaz
not bad would be a cheap low base raider then
punch the shields out then envoy for looting
tender moat
The Kehra is great for Station popping, then the Envoy does the work until you get the Horizon...
The Talla is good for lower levers but is really a Jelly killer...
vagrant topaz
oh 1 more bp and can build a second phindra
quick bramble
Not impressed lower levels get an extra event!@!!
Do higher levels have MUGS written on their foreheads????,,
💩
That's Shipley taking a dump on us
Scopley *
tender moat
@vagrant topaz I have 3 on one account...
@quick bramble Higher levels have enough advantages, they do not need events...
quick bramble
Higher levels pay for the servers and to keep the game going!
Besides this very important point, what about equality and keeping everyone going
And happy
Fyi I am not a p2w
white fjord
If you earned the jelly patterns last dom event are people getting them again if they are under level 18 ? or is it a lock once you earned the 25 once you dont get them agian
upbeat moon
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
compact condor
you could earn 50 at least last event
tender moat
@quick bramble Meh money is imaginary, don't you follow star trek? Who cares about the imaginations of the Ferengi?
Besides if Scopely wasn't so unashamedly marginalist against the majority of people and cator only to the minority who can afford packs and troll people because they cannot play the game with their insane pricing system the servers would never need to be worried about...
At the moment the over 25 club will pay for the servers, but when they get bored or can't afford the insane prices, then what? those who thought the pricing structure is stupid so only play for Free aren't going to suddenly start paying for the servers... And the over 25 club is very much the minority...
A pricing structure that is static at various levels for different resources would be much better...
$1 packs for the cheap stuff like par, tri and dil,
$5 packs for g2
$7 packs for Latinum
$10 packs for G3
And the servers would be covered for decades after the last player gives up...
trim cape
just have 300 active players left on our server with a total off 600 including inactives
compact condor
how do you know?
tender moat
@trim cape That's a pretty good ratio
trim cape
going trough every system and getting them in excell with location @compact condor
mellow rivet
How about a schedule that we can see in advance. And for the npc ones how about you realize us servers people work for a living and that’s how they pay into the game so why would you schedule these events to penalize your money bags.
vagrant topaz
How can i request a refund
Idk why people are saying you can’t get a jelly without buying micros... I just finished building mine this morning for free... all prints came from missions and events
Not a single cent spent
sacred scarab
Because prior to this weekend you couldn't, and for anyone over level 17 you still can't
vagrant topaz
Oh
Well it’s a rare ship... shouldn’t rare ships be rare?
Also what’s the founders server?
sacred scarab
Think it's for the people who played during alpha or beta and had their stuff moved over, and possibly has different rules on it
vagrant topaz
founders server is the merged server of the 2 that has been running for over a year now
I thought the game just launched a few months
general release yes but has been through 3 betas
And after all those betas they released a bug-o-rama? Not even Fallout76 is broken as this game.
funny thing is on server 1 beta 2 was less buggy
kindred aurora
@vagrant topaz What level/ship power did you need to be get through the jelly missions?
vagrant topaz
I was lvl 16/17 with ships around the 12.5K power
The dominion event was easy... all it required was gaining power in any way
@kindred aurora I finished the dominion event using ship xp as 1 ship xp yielded 25 points... I also used officer xp but that was a 1:1 yield
For jelly missions it was just using my 12.5K Talla battleship mostly
Also the dominion event game me 20 jellies
flat dove
Hello, question to all lvl 18+ has anyone seen this hunter throphy or knows about the hunter killer ranking event? Because i didnt get this throphy for clearing the last event and i havent heard a thing about the follow up event. Thanks for your replys
acoustic vigil
@vagrant topaz I know I try telling them the same thing. Spend the money to level past 20. Jelly was a waste of money for me
tribal python
It really depends on how much you are going to pay. If you only have $50 to drop on the game, then the Jelly is the best bang for your buck. If you have hundreds or thousands, then absolutely skip past it. But a single $50 ship/station pack will not remotely get you far enough to skip the Jelly unless you are already level 20.
vagrant topaz
@acoustic vigil @tender moat I think any money spent on this game is a waste of money
Also I can’t believe people are actually spending this kind of money on this game let alone any money at all... smh
vivid smelt
Jelly was totally worth the money.. Call me a ferengi I guess...
tribal python
@vagrant topaz That applies to pretty much everything that is recreational. I think it's crazy when someone spends large sums of money on vintage cars, because from my perspective those are a giant waste of money. But hey, if it makes you happy then go for it, you didn't earn just so you couldn't enjoy yourself. Same thing applies to this game....probably crazy to spend, but it does make the game more fun, so why not if you don't have something else you want to buy?
vagrant topaz
vintage cars can appreciate in value though
and you have something physical
you spend thousands on this game then the devs switch off the server a few years later you got nothing
@tribal python really a $50 virtual ship in a mobile game... $50 on a ship that’s isn’t even real... $50 is a AAA title... the fact that anybody spent money on this game means they got played
But I guess it makes the game free for the rest of us 🤷♂️
tribal python
Again, it's all a matter of perspective. If you have ever been in a failed relationship, you likely spent money taking an ex out on dates. The relationship no longer exists, and many of the activities you participated in (movies, dinners, activities) aren't things that have much value in any tangible sense. Are those more real than a virtual spaceship? Likely not.
waxen surge
deep bro deep
vagrant topaz
There is no perspective matter. There is overpriced (and after a few levels useless) ingame ship priced the same as full AAA game. And you don't even get it fully tiered!
tribal python
That's a whole other conversation. In that context, all mobile games are over-priced...because $50 for a full unit is actually on the cheap side. Galaxy of Heroes requires much more than that just to have a new unit 'maxed' in stars, and THEN you have to both XP it and gear it. You end up spending way more.
vagrant topaz
Not really no. Chaos Rings is cheap as dirt comparing to this buggy trash. And you pay it once, play as long as you want.
So it's not all phonegames. However all phonegames with lootboxes are overpriced. Those that have no gambling mechanics, aren't.
vagrant topaz
The fact that you can give a 1 to 1 comparison of games shows just how unoriginal this game is... just like 90% of the app market
All cookie cutter cash grabs
pure osprey
@tribal python yes but Galaxy of heroes is a bad example cause all the pay to play is is a short advantage so you can get the character quicker , ive been playing GOH for 2 years and every P2P character that has come out i got for free and 7 starred , in GOH you can compete in the top 100 as a f2P player and with in 3 months of a paid character coming out its switch to free to play so the whales only got it 3 months before. GOH is far far more balanced then STFC is maybe thats why it has a way larger player base and far more social media personalitys and support.
in my opinion GOH is an example on how to do it right and keep both the f2P and p2P happy
sleek zealot
@pure osprey GoH was a complete clusterfuck at launch. And it is the one game I have got a full refund of thousands from and never looked back.
To compare game states now is not apples with apples. Let’s discuss in 6 months.
tribal python
^ This. I started playing (and spending) in GoH right at the beginning, and it was not the 'everybody gets a medal' game that you see today. There was no release cadence that guaranteed new units would hit F2P friendly nodes to grind later. Some stuff you just had to pay for or suffer, and the packs were a terrible deal. And my original point was that after you DID spend hundreds to get a new unit to 7-stars, then you had to both gear and level it, both which costed even more. Comparatively, I unlocked the Jellyfish completely for $50, with resources enough to get it to tier 6. I spent another $40 to speed up progress to get it to tier 7, and XP you can earn for free just by fighting. So $90 got me a completely maxed unit in this game, where in GoH it likely would only be 6-stars at the same price point.
fiery beacon
but isn't the unit still going to be obsolete after a certain point @tribal python and you'll have to spend more to invest in a later unit?
I think its a fair criticism of STFC that they didn't have the forethought to make content (ships) scale into the games future. I've not played galaxy of heroes but if were comparing games like this clash does a fantastic job of scaling all of its content into the future.
well, except for the realta, great ship for exploiting poorly designed events 😋
sleek zealot
Honestly @fiery beacon the jelly scales a lot better than people seem to keep repeating. I did extensive log testing with a jelly vs vahklas and it was only at t4 shield that the vahklas took over.
And for most to get a t4 vahklas is a pipe dream.
Jelly is OP.
fiery beacon
@sleek zealot I understand it scales better and a lot of players are saying "its useless, dont get it" thats not my point.
If the devs designed all game content to scale into the games future it wouldn't be a matter of "how long will this ship be worth the money I invested". Spending money to upgrade a unit would always be worth it.
As a comparison is anyone spending money to upgrade their realta???
Compare this with players in clash of clans spending money to upgrade their barbarians.
Ofcourse nothing can be done about this because its a result of an extremely limited and childishly simple combat system. ships don't fulfil a role or perform a specific task, they simply have a certain lvl of power and its rock/paper/scissors.
They put more thought into the miner abilitys then combat ships unfortunately. They really needed to overhall the combat system they recycled from kings of the realm.
At lvl 21 I have no incentive to buy the jelly pack to get the ship because of this. I'm not even sure if the north star will be worth any spending.
sleek zealot
But in your example, the realta power caps at what? 20k? My jelly is 80k..
I dont use it cause my vahklas is 120, but if i had kept the jelly with the same research, itd be viable, whereas the realta isnt
fiery beacon
Actually while thinking about it they wouldnt even have to change the combat system, they could design the game so you upgrade low lvl ships like the orion corvette into the phendra and the phendra into the kehra, thus making use of the existing content to create a parts farming system to get more of one ship......
fiery beacon
thats the point @sleek zealot , they should have removed power caps on ships, let the realta gain power up to 80k but have the unique ability on the jelly be better then the one on the realta.
sleek zealot
But then they wouldnt sell as many jellys 😬
fiery beacon
then players would actually make use of the realta/orion corvette/phendra/turas/talla well into lvl20-22
@sleek zealot yes they would, make the jelly ability extreamly powerful.
sleek zealot
Fwiw, I agree, you should be able to choose, and not cap
fiery beacon
you know as well as I do the game is lacking content after lvl 30.
If you have existing content thats wasted design the game so it isnt.
"If you have existing content thats wasted, design the game so it isnt."
I can picture the faces of the modelers who put the realta/orion corvette together.
"Noone even flys my ship 😢 "
sleek zealot
Well, we have plenty going on in our server, but having had a look around the
Level 40 systems with my Kvort. Yeah.. its all 20s rn
fiery beacon
The strange thing is, if the ships didnt have caps that would create more resource sinks in the game..... more resource sinks create a higher demand for rss.... that makes players spend.
sleek zealot
Well, idk enough about game economics to say for sure, but in simple terms, its all about the power creep and new shiny stuff.... much easier to powercreep with new shiny stuff, win/win
From a commercial pov anyway
tribal python
@fiery beacon I think someone could definitely argue that something like the Jellyfish would be even more valuable if it had use for the entirety of your time playing. However, it would also lessen the usefulness of other ships. If the Jelly could be bought and powerful forever, then it really diminish the excitement or draw of working towards anything else. This game needs ships to become obsolete, so that it feels like an achievement when we get the next in-line.
And I know a lot of people wish the prices were lower. I wouldn't mind paying half the price I've been doing, that's just more for me to spend. But I haven't been too bothered by how things are currently priced, and have been moderately spending without regret.
fiery beacon
I guess it comes down to what you want to do,
Do you want to make money or do you want to make a great product that will make you even more money?
@tribal python you can always incentivise to buy the higher lvl ships by giving them unique mechanics or abilitys that make them far more powerful then a jelly in combat, infact that is exactly what they have done with the current faction ships.
Furthermore if you focused on abilitys over power the power scaling numbers could be kept lower and more managible rather then exploding into the hundreds of thousands or indeed millions..... something that makes actual balance impossible to manage.....
Then again their are always players that want to brag about their 10 million power ship.
@tribal python also from a development point of view giving game content an expiry date means having to add more content to the game which increases development costs, its simply not logical.
tribal python
Well, using Galaxy of Heroes as another example of a game based on a popular sci-fi IP that makes it money selling units and progress: Right now isn't indicative of what later might look like. Galaxy of Heroes was very money-grubby at launch, and not very friendly to free players. That got increasingly better as time went on, and features were added in addition to the structure being tweaked, so it found a middle-ground that mostly works. This game will likely follow something similar.
fiery beacon
"That got increasingly better as time went on"
I cant help but see that as a result of players leaving in droves
tribal python
Nope, the game only increased in popularity.
fiery beacon
how can you know that?
tribal python
But like many games, it was rough at launch.
Many sites track sales and active users. I bet you could see for yourself if you googled it now.
fiery beacon
all these free to play mobile games show off misleading statistics and pretend they are successful
@tribal python they'll show downloads, they wont show retention or active accounts
Its like netflix releasing the bird box movie statistics, it did really poorly and they boosted sales with their misleading.
"viewed by 41 million users"
tribal python
Besides, isn't this argument a moot point? The structure is in place, and they've made a good amount of money as-is. There's very little incentive for them to change it mid-stream, and since the Jellyfish pack has been so successful it's likely future packs will be priced similarly.
fiery beacon
@tribal python I consider it more a discussion then argument, with points being made on how development by the studio could be improved in the future.
I cant see them changin it mid stream or even attempting to try a better system for digits next title.
tribal python
I do understand the desire to want that, especially as a F2P player or someone who spends very little. So don't get me wrong, I get where you are coming from.
fiery beacon
also, not sure where you're getting the "jellyfish pack is successful" from
my servers not littered with them, and they clearly drove a lot of the playerbase to quit
not sure how anyone could consider that a success
tribal python
My server is flooded with them.
Half of my alliance had them before it returned, and most of the other half grabbed it when they had this second chance. In the past week alone, almost every base I've raided has a tiny Jelly docked.
sleek zealot
Same @tribal python
digital haven
@tribal python haaas a Galaxy of heroes player I quit and never looked back, never spent a dime. This before it got better so you say...still ea is ea. Scopely is quickly earning that rep in the mobile world...and they dont have the money or clout to survive that
pure osprey
@tribal python gearing and leveling is very easy in GOH getting gear 12 and leveling is completely free you dont have to buy anything unless you want it now , it takes me less then a month to get a new character geared and leveled and modded , the fact is GOH you can play completely free and still compete , thats impossible in STFC
vagrant topaz
Why tf is the uncommon yield so trash...
fiery beacon
Because if it was easy, players wouldn't struggle
sleek zealot
@pure osprey like I said .... you are comparing a 2 month old game ( since release) with a 3 yro (since release) game....
Geez.
sleek zealot
Ok. So Let’s say STFC has been around since 2017 and GoH 2013.. same difference
You lot would argue the colour of he sky if it meant you could knock Scopely 😆
GoH has been out longer. Somewhere between 1 and 3 years depending on how much hate you have for Scopely I guess.
strange zodiac
The point being missed is that GoH lost a lot of people before they fixed things. People who won't go back. Why not learn from GoH and avoid their mistakes? People enjoy this game enough, or see the potential that they are trying to convince Scopely to fix it BEFORE there is a big loss of players. It is a lot better to keep players you have and add new ones than to lose a whole lot and try to woo them back.
fiery beacon
and kings of the realm had the same situation, you're ignoring the possability this is part of their release plan @strange zodiac
@strange zodiac if they cared about player retention they wouldnt have made a pay to win game.
strange zodiac
Maybe, but there are p2w games that have happy, loyal followings. Quite a few. Personally, if this is actually a part of some plan, I think it is a poor plan. I don't see how chasing away your fan base is a winning strategy. Especially when coupled with a generally negative and cynical attitude towards the company.
fiery beacon
@strange zodiac such as?
strange zodiac
Even your response shows a significant cynicism towards Scopely, "if the cared . . ."
Bother. "If they cared . . ."
fiery beacon
@strange zodiac which is why I dont spend any money on the game
strange zodiac
Indeed, and good for you, but it would be in Scopely's interest to make you care more about the game and have it be enjoyable for you, and others, in the hopes that you, and those others, could be converted into a paying player. Instead of one who leaves the game and thinks poorly of Scopely as a game maker.
fiery beacon
scopely know their own interests m8 and they dont share your understanding of long term gain.
When you're driven only by the objective of making money you never make anything worthwhile for anyone.
vagrant topaz
Well people spending money on a bugging ass flawed game are just enabling them
prime crown
It’s Star Trek...there are people who will always pay
fiery beacon
@lord @prime crown this isn't star wars, trek fans arn't childish twats who throw money at something just because it has star trek written on it. The "success" of the recent movies and discovery reinforce this.
prime crown
From my view, there will always be ppl who would rather buy items, upgrades with real money vs grinding out and enjoying a game for the “blood, sweat and tears” invested. I’m a grinder. I love to hate the slow growth and frustrations that come with it. Add pvp to the mix and now it’s a dominance thing where anyone can be alpha if they pay enough.
prime crown
I will for sure. Grinder 4 Lyfe 😉
pure osprey
@sleek zealot its not two months its been out for over 18 months
rancid cedar
@tender moat goodness me...u were accepted and well liked...now you're hated and banned from chat. Probably not the gaming experience most are looking for mate.
rancid cedar
I never cry over pixels lol... but i do get upset when someone
Works hard and then it gets taken away...just because.
You know what i mean?
U wouldnt like it...so why do it to others? Just because u can isn't a reason...its an excuse.
delicate moss
Hated and loving it.... you seem really unhappy with this game.... maybe you should quit. I am worried about your mental health
delicate moss
You got me.. I was trolling... but I can right a book with your incessant complaining. JUST QUIT
Write*
delicate moss
Keep bitching that will help everyone...
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz is the mining bonus going to be functional on the North Star?
ornate mica
@vagrant topaz is the mining buff of captain's going to be available on ANY ship?
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz Yes, the team have made sure that the North Star's buff is working.
@ornate mica This is a top priority, and I hope to have news soon.
good stuff @vagrant topaz keep fighting the good fight
i skip over most of that, only read a few peoples posts that i consider to have merit
sterile jolt
@vagrant topaz @ornate trellis the biggest question my guys have raised over the new event is will it be technically possible to get the north star in this event without using the store, or will it pull the usual if you collect everything you will just fall short and have to pay money to be assured of getting the ship at the end of the event. Having the ship be buyable to boost the alliance event ranking makes great sense but for those that have no chance of winning can still look forward to getting a ship if they work hard
grim dust
If this event is all about North star and mining, will North star's mining bonus actually work? Because mining bonuses of other survey ships aren't working and neither are mining officers.
Oh sry i read now above that you confirmed it works. So just mining officers now... too bad they wont be fixed for mining event.
vagrant topaz
@tender moat wow, we actually agree on something 😱
vagrant topaz
ok now you are scaring me, make it stop!
if you were any other man i would kill you were you stand
one of my faves
vagrant topaz
@sterile jolt You will be able to earn it through play over the course of the event.
pseudo glen
Still not finding where these so called North Star bp are. Even with the 5 from chest, that gets most to 23.
And define earn @vagrant topaz - since that term is quite vague for this app
summer radish
I claimed my north Star crate but got zero bp shards
People say timer should have reset to 24hrs
but mine is still showing 6d+
vernal ember
So i only see alliance mining event, none for north star bp's?
summer radish
Icazify, close and re-open and you should see a North Star Miner Special! Daily.
vernal ember
Nevermind, just showed up 30 mins too late
@summer radish tried restarting client twice before i bothered writing here lol
summer radish
oh lol
vagrant topaz
@pseudo glen daily North Star chests and mining event milestones are your main ways.
And looking at the possible rewards it looks doable - though some work will be required.
timber delta
In what world is mining 75k Parsteel or 15k dil in 12h considered doable?
vagrant topaz
It'll take me 2hrs
summer radish
From the sounds of it, killing miners with overflow inv ALSO give the same points for the mission
vagrant topaz
Is that still counting towards milestones? 😂
summer radish
testing it right now
deft sorrel
im not getting the second solo event...
vagrant topaz
@summer radish tag me with results please
summer radish
@vagrant topaz Counts for the alliance one, trying to find overflow on basics is harder
vagrant topaz
Rofl, NS having less cargo than the Kehra was a nice touch! You really got me there
Cudos
fast zinc
@vagrant topaz yes its less..... but it also suppose to mine a lot faster
so you give up cargo space for mining faster, i dont see a prob with that, since G3 mats mine so slow with the other ships
vagrant topaz
My envoy mine ~1850 an hour w. 10K safe cargo. NS mines 2145 per hour with 450 safe cargo
Boy, am I thrilled! 😉
Mining for 15 minutes to fill safe cargo is just so much more fun 😃 I love micro management!
A g3 rare surveyor has 1/24 the cargo space of the common g2 surveyor...
But at least it mines 15% faster 😉
compact condor
seriously, that protected cargo must be wrong, the ship is worthless
vagrant topaz
@compact condor you’re supposed to use mining officers with it
My t’pring doubles protected. And my stone doubles cargo
compact condor
yeah as they do on the envoy which is infinitely better
vagrant topaz
The ns is made for fast g3 mining and to be checked every 1-2 hrs
It’s not meant to mine overnight or for long periods
abstract wasp
Is the 6 day event an attempt to verify the percentage of uncommon material refinement ?
vagrant topaz
The event has nothing to do with refining
abstract wasp
No but everybody ins mining so they will eventually refine the material. The devs will be able to take the percentage and hopefully increase the chance of uncommon
minor glen
Any idea if the cargo capacity is a bug???
abstract wasp
From 1/16
carmine ivy
the mining perk is still bugged. Sitting on a tritanium mine right now and not getting my bonus speed...
abstract wasp
Ships
The NORTH STAR
The NORTH STAR is Star Trek Fleet Command’s new Survey ship, specialized in mining 3★ Crystal, Ore and Gas.
It is fast, with Warp Speed comparable to the Vahklas and Impulse similar to the Kehra. Add to this its mining speed bonus (Tier 1 is 550%) and gathering those precious 3★ just got a whole lot quicker.
However, to maintain its speed, The NORTH STAR has sacrificed some of its Cargo limit.
Originally, The NORTH STAR was designed as a family Transporter. This lineage remains very apparent with the “Healthy Mining” ability. This perk means that the higher the Health stat of the officers on the ship, the better the mining speed for 3★ raw materials. This ability stacks with officers’ Health-increasing abilities, like Cadet McCoy and Vella.
Arriving with one Officer Slot unlocked - and another when you reach level 5 - you can start optimizing your mining the moment you construct The NORTH STAR.
A great long term investment, mining 3★ resources will only get better as you upgrade The NORTH STAR and your Officers.
compact condor
fair point
dusky tapir
around 98%, thats clearly "some" 😄
vagrant topaz
It can litterally mine 15 minutes before safe cargo is exceeded 😛
Who needs more than 15 minutes of mining?
Want to play the game? Kill npcs or loot bases? NP, as long as you remember to recall your miner every 15 minutes 😃
fiery beacon
what makes you think it had a cargo space 80% larger then its current cargo space ???
vagrant topaz
Top Event for the new or lil Players. Lmao Clapclap. Stop smokin pot
fiery beacon
@vagrant topaz not sure how rewarding more active players is a bad thing, the game desperately needs to do something to reward active free to play players over inactive paying players IMO
dusky tapir
@fiery beacon just comparing with the other 3* miner
vagrant topaz
@fiery beacon F2P are not the ppl who has this ship though
fiery beacon
@vagrant topaz not now, they get it in 2 -3 days
vagrant topaz
And even when you can play this game with 100% focus, 15 minutes is a very short time
dusky tapir
level 1 horizon has 105k capacity, NS has 3k. okay its 97% off, not 98 but whatever
vagrant topaz
If you consider, you might need to travel 5 minutes each way, 15 minutes is even worse
I just send my NS to Eotain... It will be there in 4.5 minutes
fiery beacon
but isnt it apples and oranges @dusky tapir
They're both survey ships but for very very different purposes.
hidden geyser
Cant believe, anybody would even remotely think the cargo stats of the North Star, are ven remotely adequate, unless you are the Scopely Finance Department watching ppl trying to buy upgrade packs, to get the cargo, even remotely adequate
fiery beacon
ones for short fast 3* rss farming, the other is for dil and station raiding?
vagrant topaz
Then I need to order it mine, and after 15 minutes, safe cargo is full. Sorry, too much micro management imho
fiery beacon
@hidden geyser how stupidly broken would the ship be if you could fast farm hundreds of thousands of 3* rss overnight?
vagrant topaz
Everybody but me loves to micro manage their miners?
hidden geyser
Did I say 100s thousands ?
fiery beacon
has any of you even explored the systems it can reach?
vagrant topaz
@fiery beacon "Hundreds of thousands"??? As opposed to 450?
hidden geyser
dont put words in other ppls mouths, you sound like an over presumptios idiot
fiery beacon
34 warp range, check the systems out
@hidden geyser no you didn't, but based on your comment that you dont think upgrading it is worth it, it was safe to assume you want a large increase in its cargo space, not a small increase as upgrades offer.
hidden geyser
Dont assume, it makes an idiot out you you !!
dusky tapir
@fiery beacon it is a 3* survey ship focussing on 3* materials - even if it had 100k capacity - the horizon would still be better for any other material
@fiery beacon and yes, it focusses on faster minign with less cargo, thats just what the text said. you can cut it by 30%, you can cut it by 50%, but 97% ? ...
vagrant topaz
@dusky tapir I agree completely
fiery beacon
@hidden geyser assumptions are only mistakes if you lack data,
Do you or do you not want the ship to have a far larger capacity then it currently has?
hidden geyser
no, the compromise for warp range and speed, deserves some compromise
but 97% is insane
40 - 50 % would be reasonable
fiery beacon
@hidden geyser which would allow it to farm at night when its max tier, which is what they wanted to avoid.
hidden geyser
So they achieve with 15 minutes mining ??
dont make me laugh
As I said, how could anyone, remotely justify 15 minutes mining
vagrant topaz
An hours mining would maybe be fair
hidden geyser
and what is wrong with overnight farming ?
vagrant topaz
But 15 minutes is totally rediculous
hidden geyser
ah, because ppl might buy less packs
vagrant topaz
Do we really want/need to micro manage all our ships?
fiery beacon
@hidden geyser nothing, if the amount farmed is reasonable.
Enabling overnight farming on such a fast mining ship would flood the playerbase with too much 3* rss.
many ppl will be processing the 3 tier batches for max rss.
Players will be getting more rss then they can process, they will complain.
Its economic creep, you want to avoid it when managing a games economy.
vagrant topaz
@hidden geyser You're right. No need to discuss it further
15 minutes mining doesn't come close to 8+ hours of mining,. Don't claim it does
fiery beacon
@hidden geyser theirs no arguing with causality.
hidden geyser
tata
fiery beacon
@vagrant topaz max the level of the ship and increase its storage, then talk to me
@hidden geyser you've only put an end to a constructive conversation, you didnt win an argument, we both lost out on a constructive lesson.
vagrant topaz
@fiery beacon Lol 😃 Max level? I paid a lot of money to get it at tier 3! Chances are I can't level it for weeks with the refinery lottery
fiery beacon
@vagrant topaz at max tier its storage is 10k, if we only cut it down from a max horizon from 97% to 50% it would have closer to 50k storage.
So do we want the playerbase to be able to farm 50k 3* rss overnight (5-6-7 hours)
I think the answer is no but how do you feel?
vagrant topaz
How many miners, which go above secure cargo are killed?
Just an average number will do
Do you all review movies looking at the poster? An album from the cover? Get the ship, try it out for a few days, find its uses and then have a constructive conversation about it
fiery beacon
@vagrant topaz It has above average power compaired to other ships and at the lvl when its maxed players dont attack miners with that much power.
200k when maxed
vagrant topaz
Trust me... I have spend money, but some spend more. And there's always sone of them ready to kill you. Even if you're not above safe cargo
If you're above safe cargo, it's commonly accepted to be free game
fiery beacon
@vagrant topaz its 200k power,
Any player able to destroy it wont have to, they'll have one of their own and be farming just the same.
hidden geyser
@fiery beacon I said I do not debate, discuss, where there is no logic, there is absolutely no logic in a 15 minute mining timeframe
vagrant topaz
So, yes, if you're among the absolute top spenders, I am sure it's a great ship. For 99% other players... not so much
@fiery beacon Mine is 37K power... how do I get to 200K?
fiery beacon
@hidden geyser the devs must have picked the number with their feelings then. so sue them
hidden geyser
you can rave on as long as you like, 15 minutes is NOT adequate
fiery beacon
@vagrant topaz is you're max rank?????
vagrant topaz
No, I am freaking lvl 21! With the refinery lottery, how long do you think it'll take me to get to max?
fiery beacon
@hidden geyser wrong for what reason?? if theres no logic behind the decision then you cannot appraise how successful it is at achieving a goal that you've claimed doesnt exist.
vagrant topaz
And all that time, my NS will be farmed, as soon as it goes beyond secure storage
after 15 minutes....
fiery beacon
@hidden geyser I dunno, it sounds like someone created a bar stool and you're sitting there getting angry that what you've decided is a table is a really shit table.
vagrant topaz
@fiery beacon So, what level are you, and your NS?
fiery beacon
@vagrant topaz I'm lvl 22, my clanmate is lvl 30 and has maxed the ship already. That is where I'm getting the data from.
vagrant topaz
Ok, so another example of someone having spend 200$+ ? Telling how good it is?
Ofc a level 30 doesn't worry about being killed when passing secure storage
A level 21 do worry tho, cuz it happens all the time
A lvl 30 has probably 5 ppl on the server who has a chance of killing his miner. A level 21 has 300 ppl able to do it
It's the reason I blocked Mozzy; he didn't have the NS, but knew someone who did - who was probably high rank on his server
If you're a top 5 on your server things are lot different from what 99% of the players experience
But all the arguments for this ship, seems to come from the top 1% players
plucky star
This ship is just a bad joke
Are u serious with this one?
It has more attack as the jelly
This is a battleship, no cargoship
vagrant topaz
The power is ok considering it's G3 and next to the horizon. The cargo space is a joke fitting April 1st
plucky star
Try using it as a battleship
go kill npc with it
you can do your dailys easy without any problems
so if you spent 1k€ till now
for getting for example a Kehra to about 100k power
you need now just to spend 200€ to have the same fighting power.
Sounds legit.
NOT.
ornate mica
@vagrant topaz ... seriously? These are the rewards for Tier 3 of the individual mining event???
vagrant topaz
I can’t believe people are buying another ship 😂🤦♂️😐
vagrant topaz
That buff is broken @vagrant topaz
Wow let’s hype up a ship that doesn’t work. People are refunding their 20$ ns pack on my server in droves.
Maybe u all should have fixed mining ships and officers BEFORE doing a mining event with a new mining ship?
Call scopley at 1-323-400-6618 and Bitch them out for an event with a broken ship
vagrant topaz
i love this new mining ship, its terribile at mining but dang it can pvp!
pure osprey
*pulls up to mcdonalds in her Northstar and orders a combo meal, pulls up to window and notices she dont have space and starts pulling out the bungee cords to tie the food to the roof *
adding a coffee cup holder increases the cargo space by 45%
vagrant topaz
Is the event gonna come back?
split flint
@vagrant topaz when you have depleted a mine, it should be counted towards mining without recalling the ship
tiny plinth
Yesterday I bought the Nordstern. The cargo space is a joke! I want to have my money back.
crisp bridge
So when new daily event starts for North ⭐️?
vagrant topaz
Not saying you guys aren’t getting played ... but the north star is supposed to be a g3* miner
While point is to maximize its ship ability with high health officers... but ya the boosts don’t work rn so ya
obtuse harness
It doesn't work as a g3* miner either soooooo
vagrant topaz
Ya that’s what assumed
obtuse harness
Scopely can't or won't fix it
vagrant topaz
Ya ik it’s stupid and needs to be fixed
But you guys are complaining about the wrong thing... it’s not that the cargo space it’s trash ... it’s that the ship is useless because the game is bugged
obtuse harness
Yep. If I could eat a node in 30 minutes, I'd be happy.
Or even an hour
But 4 hours and being over protected in 15 minutes makes it useless
vagrant topaz
Hello,
There is a bug on the North Star, they said on the Official-announcement:
"However, to maintain its speed, The NORTH STAR has sacrificed some of its Cargo limit."
But the North Star only have 4k cargo for a gain that is less than 25% of increase in speed compared to the Envoy but have 75% less cargo capacity ( at Tier1).
How is that "some of its cargo capacity" ? That likes "most of its cargo capacity".
Add to this that it only protect 300, that look like an insult for all player who bought the ships.
Should t the ship do better that the fortunate at least?
The Fortunate with no officer mine 900 the north star 2000
So 55% less for the fortunate
A cargo capacity 75% less for the North Star
The protected resources scale with the cargo capacity
The cargo protection is 300 for 3k cargo : with 2000/hours every 9 minutes you pass your cargo capactity
(i don't count the boost from officers +50% mining speed on specified ressources + 0.2% scaled on officer life)
So every 5-9 minutes you take 1 hour to repair and got less than 1k ressources.
PS : i didn't found the article in english, just google traduce that and forum/discord manipulations will become clear when you see it.
https://korben.info/techniques-secretes-controler-forums-opinion-publique.html
Regards
runic meadow
Why does the new event give 5 total and yesterday 18???
wild gazelle
Yeah. That was a fun discovery. 20 for me yesterday, 5 today.
stuck minnow
Because you don't make money by giving things away for free
Aka they want you to open your wallet
pliant mulch
Is this really going to be an event you can’t win? What’s the point? Just sell the ship only if we can’t actually earn it.
stoic forge
The North Star sucks anyways, only 300 in protected cargo. It gets hit 10x more that the other miners. It will look good in the garage but that’s about it. What a waste
brisk brook
So if we buy the NS we don't get more parts from events/daily chest? What if I want to have 2 NS? @vagrant topaz can you explain that to me?
runic meadow
I respect selling it. But it should be earnable. I've played daily and unless paid never got a jellyfish. F2P players needed to keep P2P players interested. If you don't understand that, then you deserve the failed game you will have
remote jackal
Ya that is such garbage.. Day 1 NS event.. could earn 35. Day 2. Just 5? Need 90 total, and that AIN’T GONNA WORK devs.
haughty gate
Especially if you were working day 1 so could not join in.
pure leaf
I’m particularly impressed by the daily event running until 0400 in Europe.
white fjord
This event being 5pm British to 5am is stupid..... For a daily event it could run for 24hrs make it more fair for those not in the USA or with lives / jobs etc the chance to get the 75k point's
polar token
Yet another poorly thought out event. This is getting tiresome.
hasty glen
I mean the only issue I have so far with the event is the time frame... That, and I'm worried that a f2p player might not be able to get the ship 😐
fiery beacon
@stuck minnow you do when you're giving away something that requires rss to upgrade and rss cost money.
How do you think free to play card games make money?? They give players the demand to spend, free content drives demand for spending money.
Never put a paywall infront of another paywall.
restive smelt
If this event leaves me with 89 motherfucking bps. I'm quiting this game. ^_^
I have 49 atm. With a total possible gain... of 10 per day. Unless they fucking change it. If they fuck this up and make it 89 shards at the end i'mma gonna kindly say good bye and have some harsh words. ^_^
hasty glen
Definitely hope that they revert the NS shards/day back to the first day... It's difficult enough to do the event in the EU cause of the times... I missed the max reward on the first day cause I fell asleep and didn't recall my envoy when I needed to... atm I'm looking at 84/90 at 10/day
fair cedar
If you did all the missions, and got the solo event from yesterday (and today) finished with the 24hr bonus chest you should have 58 at the moment.
hasty glen
Actually I think I do have some missions left to do, I definitely need to double check
tyvm for reminding me, I was sitting here wondering what I got to do on the game atm cause my dailies are done and I maxed the event 😛
fair cedar
with 5 days left - expecting at least 10 a day, then yes
restive smelt
I only.got 39 from missions so far.
Wait no
😂😂😂
19*
Or whatever i don't remember.😂😂😂
hasty glen
Hopefully I can make the rest of the days...
The event starts when I'm usually asleep, and ends 3 hours after I'm usually awake...
hasty glen
Yea, that's what I'm probably gunna have to do. Will have to be dilit though, otherwise I'd go over cap and blown up for little points
vagrant topaz
I had all on maximum, this is first attack from North Star.
Power on my base is over 300k without ships.
How I can survive?
He move to planetary system, attack to all bases, resistance is futile... .
Ps.: on my server is player lvl 22+ high, almost all player have lvl 17-20.
vagrant topaz
This attack take 150k cargo from me, I check ship cargo when fly out of my base. Unfortunately didnt take photo...
gray pine
You can click icon cargo lost?
vagrant topaz
Yes... but now i checked and was it propably second ship Horizon... my mistake.
gray pine
Horizon buged
vagrant topaz
He take with North Star 11k cargo. NS cargo max is 13k on tier 9.
azure epoch
So I was busy mining parsteel, tritanium, etc to earn the Northstar pieces, and decided hey if it's worth working this hard for, why not buy one and f2p earn the second one. So I bought the pack, and now I don't have any Solo events to get more pieces. I know other players do, all the steel & trit spots in remote systems are still full up.
If I had waited until the Solo events ended and then bought the pack, I would have 2 complete ones, now I'm stuck with just fragments.
maiden trellis
<@&509690795536941056> can you please let me know why I have lost the North Star chests and daily
sterile jolt
Mine also seam to be missing so what's up with that will I get them back do we raise ticket for the missed bps
vagrant topaz
Lmao you guys getting played
hasty glen
@tender moat JEsus christ I come back after a nice long sleep and find you spam posting that in every channel 🙄
vagrant topaz
What is it?
if you need ns blueprints do the faction missions, ive got my ns already, have 26 bp for the next one too
you can start on easy faction missions in the 3 new systems added
fair cedar
@vagrant topaz you bought one, got them from the event, or found 90 bps just from missions? The new missions only gave 18, you found more?
random topaz
I am curious too, I currently have 68 total and have gotten every possible bp available to my knowledge
vagrant topaz
there are more if you take faction missions deep in the faction space, most if found are in romulan space but got a few from klingon space too
random topaz
Cool, thanks, I think I just need to upgrade my warp distance for more then
fair cedar
@vagrant topaz when you say deeper, how deep are we talking?
and are they part of the first mission completed or are they spawned as a secondary mission once you complete the initial one?
vagrant topaz
some do
like first few give 2 bp then do a follow up and you get 3 then do another follow up for 5
youll need to be able to hit 55k npcs
fair cedar
@vagrant topaz There were ones as part of the first 18 you can get that venture into faction space, then you have the current event(s) to get the rest. I can't locate any additional missions in Rom or Kling space to give more than the original 18, and I have a max warp over 30 and have been to 90% of faction space. I can hit up to 200k npcs, and those are the ones in closer faction space, it just gets higher the further out you go. I assume that you purchased the pack if you have one, because there are no additional npc missions that give more than the originals ones that topped the win at 18 bps, I have looked in every system.
sterile jolt
I will have 2 by the end of the event but its just the point that the chests that should be there are no longer there, no explanation... wonder if its because I bought the ship
fair cedar
@sterile jolt Yes, most have said it stopped once they purchased it.
Are you still getting blue prints in the event to get the second one? Others in my alliance who purchased it have not been able to get any more so will only have the bought one.
twilit hearth
Anyone who bought NS what happens to BP you already had ?
obtuse urchin
I believe the solo mining event changes to getting spock and pike shards after you buy the NS
unless I'm thinking of something else...
twilit hearth
@obtuse urchin but what about the blueprints
Ie:after completing free event can u buy
obtuse urchin
ahhhhh sorry. dunno and I don't think anyone will be able to tell you for the next 2.5-3 days
unless someone found hostiles which drop bps
hardy imp
Mining event is boring. I want the bps but have to run two fortunates nearly the entire duration of event to get the top prize. I’ll do it but it’s lame and not fun at all.
trim osprey
The first daily event gave you 20 BP in total which got reduced now to 5 BP. If you missed the first, then it will be really hard to get it. On the other hand, not sure if we really need it 😉
maiden fern
Agree dude7. I was late to see first event, so i did not managed to get the final reward (12 bp if i remember correctly). But now i know and so i check it more often. Now i do complete it completly but indeed 5bp total....
celest oracle
@tender moat nobody wants to read your post anymore thx, the game will have trolls regardless of how many times you post that stupid msg. If you can’t handle it uninstall and move on.
celest oracle
@tender moat I don’t think anybody wants to see you posts.
rare trellis
Northstar event... are people who HAVENT bought the northstar getting blueprints for them thru events? It seems the event is still going on but ever since I purchased the northstar for 19.99 that those events that award for blueprints have dried up...
vague willow
Yes morph those that haven't bought the NS packs can still get tge bps from the event and the free box those that buy the pack lose access to those bps from the event and the free box
vagrant topaz
I bought the north star pack and it doesnt even give any upgrade parts
tame granite
This event is a major waste of time and has made this game boring. Good work on making this game space farmville
rare trellis
I don’t understand the reasoning for that... what if I wanted to build two northstars? All that work seems like a waste when you are left with just half the blueprints and it’s like a scam when you are not allowed to continue to acquire bps while others can after they’ve taken your money...
quick bramble
Where has the ns pack gone from the store??? Alot of people still want to buy it!!
fair cedar
I WANT TO BUY THE SHIP PACK AND IT IS GONE - WHY????
DO YOU WANT MY MONEY OR NOT?????
@vagrant topaz @ornate trellis @vagrant topaz
random topaz
I think they removed it because it was like a buy it to get it early pack and now they figure that anyone that didnt buy it yet is going to earn it through blueprints from the event? That is the only thing I can think of
fair cedar
then why did it show this morning as having a countdown of 2days -ish and now the only one still there is the upgrade pack? If they were going to remove it early, they should have had a different timer on it
random topaz
Yeah I agree 100% just trying to grab at straws here
fair cedar
lol I tried that and dropped them all
random topaz
They are not good at communicating and at this is pretty obvious. Most things are left up to the imagination or in this case just plain wrong
fair cedar
This is wrong - what is the issue if people bought it or worked for it (like I am) and if they wanted to do both, so what - why can't they have two if they wanted to? nowhere does it say you couldn't
I was going to buy one, I just had to wait for payday - well that is tomorrow, and it looks like I will have to ensure I earn it now as I can no longer buy it - the 1000 lat would have been nice to have.
vagrant topaz
Hi @fair cedar DMed you about this.
vagrant topaz
There are people in my alliance who bought the North Star right away and are still receiving the crates and event blueprints, they will have 2 north stars at the end of this, I unfortunately have not received any crates or blueprints when I bought mine, so supports announcement is total bollocks
hardy imp
It was totally worth 20 just for the rss 😃
grim blade
fair cedar
Thanks for kicking me whilst I am down @hardy imp lol
hardy imp
@fair cedar no offense intended I totally misread your comment!
fair cedar
lol - all good 😁 @hardy imp
limpid estuary
Hey scar blood wine?
sacred scarab
@fair cedar did q2 say anything useful in DM or just tell you you're screwed?
fair cedar
He said he was busy today and would respond tomorrow, but is looking into a few things for me.
ornate mica
So @vagrant topaz … players who were L17 and are now L18 missed out on the NorthStar blueprints even though we maxed the Individual Mining event for 3 days?
sacred scarab
@vagrant topaz Was the sale intended to end days before the event despite the timer? I held off on it to see if I could get the blueprints and resources on my own and now it appears I'm boned
restive smelt
@sacred scarab q2 said it would stop once you reach 70 bp as you would be able to get it normally.
sacred scarab
@restive smelt Thanks, I didn't see that. Wish if they were going to do these kinds of things they'd make them clear in game instead of making you hunt on the discord
restive smelt
^_^ at least they are improving.
sacred scarab
Support still seems unaware of this policy though as the ticket I put in just advised me to clear my localization
quick bramble
Is the ns pack gonna be back tomorrow it's pay day and want to buy it????
Not fair if they have removed it 😤 😤
fair cedar
If u have 70 or more of won't come back
buoyant trail
I reached 71 this morning (your midnight I guess). That means that after tonight's mining event I'll be stuck at 81/90 ... well done, dev. You didn't factor in TIME. 70 yesterday was ok, today it should be 80 ...
Dr. Who wouldn't make that mistake
solemn heath
The 20$ option to buy Northstar disappeared today. Does anyone know why?
Considering I havent purchased it yet
I see 50/100 options but no 20$ one
Ah I see. Past 70 bps it's not available. Problem is I've done all the missions and I have 87. I've followed all guides, etc.
blazing pilot
Hobbel68vandaag om 18:32
@vagrant topaz
we did receive parts once when the latest event started
but afterwards not anymore because we bought that north star
but this is not correct, because you said only:
Throughout this week, events are resource gathering driven. You will able to earn points for each resource mined to score towards a series of milestones that reward you with blueprints for the North Star, as well as additional mining events that reward other valuable prizes.
There will also be a North Star pack available from the store to help you add the Surveyor to your fleet even faster and give you an even greater chance of ranking high in the Alliance Event.
and also that
Hobbel68vandaag om 18:35
but nowhere you said that it will stop with parts every 24 hour if you bought it from the shop @vagrant topaz so we are entitled to all 24 hours north star packs
Hobbel68vandaag om 18:48
@vagrant topaz and @ornate trellis do you know why we are entitled to all packages, if i did not buy the north star, i could have all parts every 24 hours, and buy the north star at the last day
solemn heath
I cannot buy it because I was told I'm over 70 bps... but I can't find any other missions. I'll be 8 pieces short at the end
Why would the game makers not want me to spend 320$ because I collected too many parts????
ornate mica
@solemn heath … why would anyone in their right mind spend $320 on this bug filled piece of crap?
solemn heath
Spare change ;)
At some point they'll fix it... one hopes
I'm a senior architect (dev) and my wife a doctor so I got lucky for finances
Not that we didn't kill ourselves studying to get to this point but at least life gets to reap benefits. Its aggravating these benefits cant propagate into this game
green quartz
@vagrant topaz last one for today I promise!! It would be great if ship experience gained through combat counted for ship events.
trim osprey
@solemn heath check out official announcements, you should receive daily chests until you have all BPs
tulip shale
Well this is fun, I missed a single 75k so I get to look at the North Star 88/90 blueprints, no room for mistakes on this event.
kindred snow
The North Star is Fcking useless cause the hold is too small and it gets killed to easy. The envoy will collect more 3 in the same time than the North Star
obtuse urchin
True if you don't evel up the NS. Mine's not maxed but it's already 145k and not quite so easy to kill, where maxed envoys are"only" 53k
Cargo's still small tho'
restive smelt
@vagrant topaz .... sooo long story short i'll never contact customer support again.
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I asked them why the threshold of level 17 was imposed and why we weren't told about it for the jelly event.... i got a candid answer of.... do you see the 50$ box? If you don't clear cache....
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I tell them a mission is wrong in dialog vs req they say yea.... the higher number is the right one good bye....
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I ask them about privare mails and what's going on i get.... we have no timeline for this and we'll keep you informed then after 7 days they said.... you haven't said anything further so we're closing this....
I am sad at the quality of the answers.... all canned and impersonal... with no regard for the issues.... no solutions offered, no help or even desire to help.
As a former customer care agent myself.... it takes a lot to make me put a failing grade on an interaction... but this has been a thoroughly dissapointing endeavour even for me.
@vagrant topaz p.s.: havibg the build time be 4 days for the ns while asking for an ungodly amount of g3 mined in that time.... (meaning the individual event) is like dangling a carrot in front of a dead horse. Sure it should work in theory.... since it's a carrot and a horse... but.... since it's dead.... you know? It makes things harder.
kindred aurora
The 25 blueprint day should have been the last one of the North Star event, not the first. It made it too easy to drop the ball on the most important day.
bitter sandal
@tulip shale you do this missions too?
vagrant topaz
@restive smelt Nice wording at the end there - I like the analogy. I know that doesn't help your issue however.
Sorry to hear you have had bad experiences with support, do feel free to hit me up if I can help.
For the record though, they work from the same information I have, and are pushing for answer for you just like me. @restive smelt
@vagrant topaz i believe you need to ask devs to balance out something in north star. It gives overwhelmed power for base raiding at levels where it shouldnt be possible, kind of created the whale monster thats been clearly tried to avoid.
And its a surveyor...
Basically it’s currently very easy to own a server with NS, if the server is post nov’18.
wet vale
These alliance events which only reward the top 10 stink.
kindred aurora
Too much agro involved between the top 10 alliances for it to be worth joining (not that they'd have me!) and the solo rewards aren't exactly enticing. A smattering of 2* uncommons at my level
vagrant topaz
What’s your level considering you are not in top 10 (?) alliance and undermining G2 stuff
kindred aurora
- Not even in any alliance as I can't be bothered. The solo prizes are a small amount of uncommon G2.
vagrant topaz
You may want to put atleast your own alliance just for you, to get the alliance events too...
twilit hearth
Be nicer if you made the 3 day event every 24hrs to make it more competitive after day 1 number 2/3/4 give up.
vagrant topaz
you only got your upbringing to blame for giving up. + everyone that does give up better not complain about refine/uncommon rates. Because the guaranteed uncommons from single is great.
crude edge
Again......an event that is on while 90% of europe is asleep!!! How are we supposed to do these events????
weary moth
@crude edge Dint worry, NA will be asleep soon while the next one goes live. It all works out.
fossil mica
@crude edge They actually made it super easy this time around, I was done in about 20 mins
crude edge
I will remain sceptical until I see it.....they did the same with North Star
@fossil mica I take it you coin if you were done that quickly
For us non coiners it’s not as easy
fossil mica
negative, I'm f2p
crude edge
Well then good job
No way I can kill 300 ships without destroying all my ships multiple times and using all my ress
fossil mica
but I did just get the NS finished today, that sucker is 10k stronger than my next ship(envoy)
with my top atk officers and that klingon chick that adds 15% to atk, I'm lvl19 killing 3-4 lvl22 npc's for 20pts each
and since i'm broke and it's still Tier1, only takes 15 mins to repair, so i don't even wait for the alliance helps and throw a 10min speed up at it
median oxide
What kills me is I had only seen the NS 24hr reward chest 2 times out the week long event.
crude edge
Oh I got the cheat each day, but impossible to do the event
Event starts at 5 pm, finish work, go home and sit in front of mobile watching your miners for 5 hrs and get a divorce in the process or go home and spend time with the family!
All events at the minute are only a few hours long and over night for all of Europe!!!!
So we are supposed to stay up and not sleep!!!!
If it’s “a daily “ event it’s should run for a day, 24hrs!!!!!
vagrant topaz
I think solo daily hostiles abuse it's twice in 24h period, since I had one yesterday afternoon & on morning when I had then25 daily kills other one :-) ... Still daily shall be once a day I suppose another Bug/feature I suppose :-) only " good " thing is gives some pixels so nothing to moan about :-)
thin ore
Solo pve event is way to many kills a 100 kills yesterday took me 11 hours and the repair of an hour just couldn't get out again in time
I get final stage should be a push so 150 kills max would be fine.
And yes I know if you spent 100 dollars and have prime hull prime shields or spent a crap load on ship packs yes it is easy for those that fly ship 3 times stronger then what their level should be.
vagrant topaz
Most of the missions are same, they designed it unfair or absurd requirements with little to no reward just to make peoples spend obscene amount of money, thats why the game feels so wrong close to the border of fraud.
I have a mission where I have to " donate/pay" 500k dilithium for some pixels :-) & can mine with Fortunate like 220pcs/h :-)) will finish this mission within 94 days :-)? Thats meaning to keep one ship 24/7 on constant mining! :-))
From 513 missions completed most of the rewards been worthless pieces of crap, way too expensive compared with the costs & some of them Simply insane hard to do, thats not counting I lost progress to all missions while last update and ofcourse I had to do everything again from first stages :-))
I even found one mission who require me to have other one completed to pickup, guess what :-)the required mission I have to complete it's starting in a system where I have no warp to reach LoL.
Ofc If I drop €500-600 right now in game packs will be available to do those tasks :-) If thats not smells funny tell me what.
I honestly doubt next two months myself will be able to advace in game, since there are just couple of days since I turned lvl22 ops ( mainly rushed to have second level refinery 3* available) but at rate of 1-2 needed rare/unocomon material for upgrades on ships every few days ... Tha thask will take plenty of time.
Considering there will be 3 ships to tier up at higher levels to make them usable ...
vagrant topaz
I have a mission where I need to donate 4 million dilithium, and another for 5 million parsteel, they have ripped the piss out of the game balance in this
fair cedar
I would not mind so much if the reward was worth it, like 10M something, but it is generally only for 1M reward, just not worth it. Then it remains incomplete and clogs your list, once the list is full you can't do any new missions.
charred pilot
Scopely there’s plenty of alliances with paying players who aren’t in the top 10. By giving them nothing in the alliance events you’re telling these alliances they don’t matter. @vagrant topaz
vagrant topaz
I like so much the event with officers points, for me now it's have some very nice prize capped at 500k points :-) will take me months worth of keep saving this 50 officers rewards we keep getting from time chests :-)) like 10k rewards like this ... Considering get like 3-4 per day atleast shall take "only" a year or so of me clicking on this button to get them :-) I'll feel so much acomplishment and so much joy and happiness 😂
Seriously, If anyone can any reason at all, anything, why on name of god the genies behind the game been thinking " hey, lets give those idiots who will play or game an event /task/mission with some awesome rewards but lets joke on their face do this task hard working miner and will give you that "🤑 😂 🤑
Same thing with the ships event tiering/growing :-))
There are peoples in game who been able after 2 months of play to get their poor talas at tier6 :-)
But they receive twice a day an "event" to raise the powers :-)) with what? With the creditcards? It's obviously only reason at all to be there ...
I even got that mission asking me to return a piece of some artifact to SOL system 😂 , seriously? Maybe on 2035 :-) because under no damn circumstance today will not buy £600+ packs to raise the northstar ship even close to do that mission :-)
gray pine
@vagrant topaz experience for officers falls from the chests of the NPC
grim tree
Does anyone know the timed event format?
does it follow a set pattern?
vagrant topaz
12 hours it's seems
@kp @gray pine only at higher levels ex officers drops, and from 99chests of sorenele gets like 2500 max exp :-) wondering If 200 x 15k trit+ 200x2500 dil + 200h repairs will have same value as 65 latnium & few other pixels awarded as rewards from that particular "event" :-)
gray pine
@vagrant topaz for me an event a nice bonus, but not an obligation
if I can take the first place I take it, if not I don’t care
with level 23 nps with 50 chests, 10 boxes of experience
vagrant topaz
You lucky got many exp boxes ... :-)
gray pine
@vagrant topaz
On average, I get 400 chests per day, now I farm 27 Romulus systems.
on the day of 40-60k officers experience, it's not bad
@vagrant topaz when i farm reputation for klingon
I received an average of 1,500 boxes per day
I say this to the fact that experience for officers is mined faster than I raise officers
@vagrant topaz drop from 30-32 lvl fraction nps 7 chest
uneven relic
Yup I can’t get enough officer shards fast enough to use my officer XP 😃 for me it’s Ship XP that’s the longest to accumulate, and try to use for the Ship events.
grim tree
Does anyone know the timed event format? does it follow a set pattern?
i didnt see a ship event yesterday, I have 75k ship xp to spend and noone knows
gentle horizon
@grim tree I'm trying to track events to see if there's a pattern. Also tracking rewards. You can contribute to the spreadsheet over here if you'd like to help identify patterns. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CTCqlt41rJukDh6X66GIrpZ_4x0whSyCmN8JGC1PKQ8/edit#gid=0
grim tree
Oooh nice work @gentle horizon. much appreciated
gentle horizon
Thanks! Really it's @vagrant topaz that's put most of the info into that sheet.
polar token
The difference in requirements for someone levelling up to 20 and someone at level 20 for 5 days.
The latter is impossible to achieve with a tier 1 kehra, talla and envoy.
So missing out on important rewards - especially given the refining rate for G3 materials.
They need to revisit the level requirements. This is way off a level playing field.
Unless, of course, $€$€$€$€
And there won't be anyone left for the big spenders to play against if this is standard operating procedure.
gentle horizon
@polar token You're not wrong, the spread of 20-23 is huge, you could start at 20 with a 20k ship and be at reasonable power, but for the event you wouldn't be able to do anything, and somebody at 23 could have a ship over 100k easily completing the event. The power curve in this game seems to be ridiculous, and the event requirements are never fairly matched to that. My speculation is that they're incentivizing spending so that you push to get more rewards, and then have to push to be able to finish the event. It's either that or they're just really bad at what they do, given the functionality of the game both are equally likely.
polar token
Yep, I think you're spot on there @gentle horizon
vagrant topaz
For me at least, i think the event rewards to effort involved is the closest I've seen to breaking even. I can use my common g3 ships to make 15 kills and repairs are almost covered by the 80k Tri in the 2nd highest tier rewards. I may spend a bit more hitting one level above what I need to due to all systems having the level I need cleared out already but that's just me needing to get it over with sooner rather than later. Dil spent on repairs is covered by what I get in the daily goal rewards too. The last pve event was a complete drain with no Tri rewards so at least things are moving in the right direction
polar token
People's experience of this event is a very mixed bag. Some complete every 12 hours with little effort. My tier 1 kehra can manage 2 level 22s before repair, resulting in 4 points. My 25k talla can, in a good run, take 5 level 22s before repair, so 10 points. That's 30 repair cycles to complete all rewards. In practical terms that's unattainable. I feel the requirement brackets are too wide, which is great if you fall at the top end, but if like me you're at the bottom end, then you're knackered.
gentle horizon
Yep, you go from being at the top of the tier to the bottom of the next. Did you get enough North Star pieces during the event? It's a lot stronger at Tier 2 than your Kehra or Talla.
solar harbor
I have ask to apple a full refund, they refund me and I will not spend even 1€ in this game anymore. It’s just a fraud but everybody is free to spent his money like he want
grim tree
Another 2 events no limited time ship
im just about done with this....
@gentle horizon
had multiple officer, station and research now
pure osprey
at lv 20 my 40K ship can kill 15 level 24 hostiles thats 300 points ..before needing repair , maybe yall are just attacking the wrong ships and using the wrong crew. Crew makes a big difference and with the bridge crew i use i dont take much damage. You also need to ensure you are tiering up your ships along with your base . You level your ops to fast and your ships will be too weak to handle the level of your Ops. Looking at my own numbers at lv 20 ops my ship is at 40k power which is about right i think for the PVE content maybe a little bit on the weak side but still able to finish the 300 points before needing a repair , before i even bother moving to ops 21 , i will farm my ship to around 55K maybe even 60K so that i can handle the pve content for that ops level
pure osprey
most of the people having problems that i personally know are people that are leveling their OPS way to fast while trying to get by with a 20K ship .........its not happening
take time off from speeding your ops levels and slow down focus on your ships for a while
if you are level 20 and have a 40K ship and still not able to get to 300 with 1 repair then its not the games fault ..its your fault ...1. your crew is most likely jacked up and doesnt help what you need for hostiles...2 you arent using the attack triangle and attacking ships that are weak against your ship class 3 mostly you should focus Surveys and the class weak against your ship type and you win
your bridge crew is Key one person in the wrong place can take you from being able to kill 15 targets to only being ablt to kill 4 , for example if you have instructor spock as your captain and Cadet Uhara just on the bridge crew then you are massively failing .... Uhara is far superior against hostiles then Spock is and will take you from killing 5 to killing 15 just in her defensive ability.
charred pilot
So many alliances get nothing from this event. Top10 only tells 11-25 they don’t matter. Lame.
lament prairie
@gentle horizon Events seem to be weighted, is it safe to say those already at higher 'end game' levels have more success in these events,. and in turn are given more power with the shard rewards?
random topaz
And leaderboard based rewards only promotes all the top players to group up and make a powerhouse for the top spot. Then they just keep increasing the gap between them and the rest of the server with the rewards they earn
gentle horizon
@lament prairie at higher levels you definitely get more rewards, but it's much more difficult to complete these events at the higher levels. I'm in an alliance with 4 of the top 5 players on my server, and lots of others in the high 20's. They're getting the events done, but it takes more work at the higher end for little benefit on the alliance event side.
lament prairie
@gentle horizon Thanks for the reply. I see your point just to make sure I understand using a real world example. At 19 during the last event 22 was my target to get the highest point return, In my build out the 22 read as normal/hard and not very hard. Are you saying its harder for a higher levels to kill hostiles that are tagged at normal/hard then those as lower levels? (perhaps the stats at those levels between players and hostile are greater?) If that the case the event makes sense and my point is moot. If that is not the case, it again seems like the event was weighted for those who are already higher levels by giving them the ability to gain more points to the total goal when doing the same amount of work as those at lower levels. I am totally okay if that is the point of the event to keep endgame players happy/engaged and give lower level players something to shoot for.. I would just rather use my time and energy in a worth while pursuit (assuming the solo items are not enough of an incentive to participate.) Forgive me if i rambled
gentle horizon
@lament prairie the power level continues to increase at a ridiculous rate. At 24 killing a 28 is a lot more difficult of a task than a 20 killing a 24. A level 28 hostile has a power of ~128k.
A level 31 has a power of ~250k
Meanwhile a lvl 24 has a power of ~40k, and the 22 you were fighting only has a power of ~30k
Also the zones with hostiles of specific levels that are accessible at a given warp range are a lot fewer at higher levels, increasing the number of PvP opportunities
And if you look at that curve in power and compare it to the change in trophies being only 30 between a 20 and a 26, it's a little silly
Repair times on higher tier ships can be absurd too, up to multiple hours
open ore
Highest spend events are too obviously highest spend events and obviously not fun.
pure osprey
@summer sage you can get a 40K ship at 20 you just have to focus build the ship and not your ops leveling your ops faster than your leveling your ship is where you mess up, you cant out level your ship power and expect the game to be easy.
vagrant topaz
@summer sage your level and the ship level has small value on how strong the ship is. The key is in the research and how you use the officers...
uneven relic
yup exactly, I have said it a few times here, and it was also you last time @summer sage my turas is currently 36K and my Talla is 30K strength, both of these are not even at full strength.
and easy enough to get up too by level 20 with a bit of work, and patience.
and I've said it before,a nd I'll say it again, The BEST way to see if it's worth or ability to level up is have a look at the strength of the hostiles at least 1 higher then your next level, and if your ships can do hit those, then level up. Because you should know by now how these events work, so don't blame the game, focus on what you need to build your ships up.
e.g. if you are level 18 and going to level to 19, then have a look at the level 19 & 20 ships, if you are happy hitting those for an event then level up, if not stay at your level until you are happy with your ships.
restive smelt
Steven.... let me guess you have prime hull and prime shields.... i'm asuming the one you're talking to is a f2p.... he'd never have those numbers.
restive smelt
I'm maxed at level 19... and with prime attack( i think everyone can get that one) and no other primes my tier 6 talla is 21k my tier 6 phindra is 19k and my turas well.... turas is not that upgraded but still 18k. (All with my best officers)
abstract loom
When will next ship purchase event be out
covert portal
Hi @weak rapids
weak rapids
Hi @covert portal
lilac blade
Was Northstar purchase level locked? I never did see it in the store.
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz i have spent a Lot of Money 💰 in my kehra and now it’s useless!!!
plush sorrel
So increase one and take it away on another?? Wtf? Shouldn’t Improvements/updates benefit the player?
vagrant topaz
I'm the same spent thousands and now update is starting me, thanks scopely
Shafting not starting...angry typing lol
sleek zealot
Of interest what would get you back on side @vagrant topaz ?
Genuine, gut reaction (less than 4000 words pls) 👍
vagrant topaz
@sleek zealot they need to rebalance the loot tables for refining, the amount of uncommon and rare outputs are terrible, introduce a VIP levelling system for those willing to put money in the game, fix the ratio of level of hostile and bosses to your level, an example I had a 200k boss to fight it's now nearly 300k, same with faction mobs, warp ranges are absurd, i understand they want to limit your advancement in the galaxy but it's absurd, unlocking faction ships is still along way off for me and i have spent thousands, the mining rates are shocking and changed again, nodes are poorly placed and often in faction space for which you are immediately attacked by an overpowered ship, login rewards should be introduced like most top grossing games, i could go on.......
sleek zealot
Thanks @vagrant topaz fwiw, I have a faction miner on a new server (kvort) and the horizon out performs it so you arent missing out. My hope is that they look at faction ships soon and they get a serious buff.
vagrant topaz
@sleek zealotpleasure mate, have plenty of others but as the saying goes rome wasn't built in a day, let's hope they can address some of these first
pure osprey
@summer sage and i call Bullshit on your reply too because i have a Turas and Talla both at 40K with the right crews and research not to mention the fact they gave away the NS which you just need to spend the time farming mats to level at tier 2 which is very easy to get its already at 40K and can do the fights. You not knowing how the ships and game works is not our problem.
vagrant topaz
zoey thereis no way your turas is 40k without primes
im lvl 22 with primes and i researhed to max and mine is only 35k with good officers
placid surge
They made t2 ships not matter anyway.
We all need massive ships or we have to sit in shields.
As their is no protection from 200k+ raiders when they are alot higher level u can't fight back in this game.
And they made it even harder for smaller players to survive.
vagrant topaz
Wtf is the point of upgrading refinery when ops lvl takes precedence for uncommon drop rates?
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz ops controls if you can do 1,2, or 3 batches
Upgrading the refinery controls chances of uncommon or rares
Ops lvl has zippo to do with drop rates. That’s all refinery lvl
hearty cloak
@vagrant topaz the mission ship we have to attack are 4 times our strength....the systems are ten levels above our warp range....we need missions to equate to our levels and warp range, could more devs play the game to see the problems they create,
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz my experience is only anecdotal... but lvling refinery hasn’t altered drop rates however when I lvl up OPS I get immediate change
hearty cloak
@vagrant topaz
vagrant topaz
Also doesn’t help that the refinery details are blank and don’t say anything about its stats
vagrant topaz
What did you expect @hearty cloak you need to go to the in-game store and purchase the res packs... smh what an amateur
@vagrant topaz you raise a good point. At least if you knew the chance was 1 percent and could see the next lvl was 10 percent you would understand the process. Why is it the only building not to show what it does and at what lvl
Also if the drop rate is so shit for uncommon... wtf is the drop rate for rare supposed to be
hearty cloak
@vagrant topaz lol spend $700 to find the mission objective have increased , if you saw I was 6foot7 you would be more respectful but it's a cyber world here in Australia we have online protocol to deal players like yourself
vagrant topaz
@hearty cloak I guess sarcasm isn’t easily relayed in text ... also gtfo over yourself “6foot7” is that the only thing you got... and you spent $700 lmao way to get played
Scopely Sieze Your Pay
hearty cloak
Lol got that right bro , found the button old chap, but your right we cant here the tone of each others voice @vagrant topaz enjoy the three gam ed mate
vagrant topaz
I assume you meant free game @hearty cloak and thanks
hearty cloak
@vagrant topaz yes the game big hands and phone keypads lol
hearty cloak
placid surge
Still doesn't say a thing about officer abilities how long do we have to play with officers and abilities not working.
Kinda a massive part of the game.
And if they cared it would be fixed sooner.
Not acceptable.
placid surge
It won't be sadly as money talks.
Or else there wouldn't be a 4.3 rating in the store with so many 1 ratings.
Walking dead ffxv transformers earth wars. Contest of Champions. Transformers forged to fight etc..
All these big titles have been doing the same thing and still going because to many ppl out there just spending because they don't understand what's really going on or don't have to worry about $$ in any way for them to care.
Which makes it the way it is for us the true fans that keep these games alive.
But some of those games players stuck together and made things happen for the better.
Go look up contest of Champions and walking dead online and see what it says.
sleek zealot
I think this twat is just hated, and loving it.. right @vagrant topaz 😬
dusky tapir
duuude give me that rare crystal !!!!1111
gray pine
28
dusky tapir
:-((
gray pine
26 lvl should get too
dusky tapir
21
sleek zealot
Yeah, why should people who have invested more time and/money in something get better rewards! Screw them, lets rise up comrades!
kindred aurora
But I could really use some rare 3* materials at level 17!
As a paperweight or something.
astral galleon
The events suck and are meant to force people to spend money to be that guy on the top. The rewards aren't even worth the effort if you are over level 23 or 24 in my opinion. Why would any player need g2 resources past that level and the g3 resources you may get are still fairly useless. A lot of high-levs I talk to just aren't going to participate anymore.
marsh osprey
That would make it too easy Phil
vagrant topaz
They devalued Tri by 35% with the update and gave none as compensation, clear sign of the direction we are headed
plush sorrel
I’m a lvl 22 and need to kill 25 lvl 27 faction ships for my last daily. I can only find 2 Between Rom & Klingon space. I’ve been trying to accomplish this task for days. Wasting hours and hours. My reputation is best with FED’s so I can’t go kill them at -340 FED points ...😠 I wanted to take advantage of the power increase in my Vahklas before they reduce it in Monday’s update.
This is my first time playing an online game and possibly the last.
I’ve sent in messages and gotten nowhere. You’d think after spending $1500 they would help out a guy a little
plush sorrel
1.5 hours so far and killed 4 lvl 27’s of any rank... ridiculous! There’s none around
vagrant topaz
@hearty cloak I am in the same boat. That will change with the rollback.
vagrant topaz
@vagrant topaz week long event... ? You guys need some rest due to the nervous breakdown? 😂
dusky tapir
@vagrant topaz the 49€ valentines pack is worse than the 49€ normal officers pack
(premium tokens are missing)
vagrant topaz
Lol
😂😂😂
Again
How the f* is it so hard to do anything even half wisely?
Add a pack full of everything and people stops whining
Turn the refund talks on how can I buy more talks...
bright kayak
The new packs are pure fraud. They are selling items (officers) they KNOW are broken
olive kite
How about addressing my two month long issue of not being able to upgrade my ships with time and being forced into buying gold from you to do it???? Would be awesome to be taken seriously and not ignored the 25 times I’ve emailed your tech support as they simply thank me for my support, hope I continue to enjoy the game and close the ticket with no resolution???
dusky tapir
actualyl the 105€ is worse aswell as the faction packs... you get slightly more latinum, ultras and premiums but you are missing out completely on the faction credits
none of those valentine packs are worth it compared to their counter parts
not that it matters 🤷
bright kayak
To celebrate valentines day we would like for you to give us money. Larger sums of money will, of course, be seen as a larger show of affection. To enhance this promotion we are offering something you cant use but will nonetheless highly desire. Live long and help us prosper
vagrant topaz
Spaceghost, our alliance has lvl 21 f2p players 👀
Not sure but uncommons at G2 are pouring like rain
pure osprey
thats funny cause i did 2 50K pulls on G2 and got 0 barely get 20 a week , would love to see this magical rain
vagrant topaz
Only 15k ore left, but there’s 10 😁 and doing events gives you another 50 per day
devout wind
You can’t count events
The resources required to max them out make it unsustainable and uneconomical
(Although I hope that is actually sarcasm)
@fickle basin images from the commercial:
Look at the ships that are being used! 😂
devout wind
Replying to dnd with the first bit.
And agree that the commercial is a complete misrepresentation. Showing ships in use that players who have been going for a long, long time are no where near achieving.
And I agree re uncommon drop rates
weary ridge
Also notice something about the ships being used above... one player has 1.099 BILLION Latinum, the other has 99.9 MILLION Latinum... developer accounts with essentially unlimited control on the galactic crypto-economy...more proof that this game is fixed just like all the other Scopely games...
I’m fairly certain that the first player has neither 1. Purchased around 200 million dollars worth of Latinum and/or/nor 2. Been playing this game for a half a million years...
fair cedar
The 1B lat user is only ops level 3 - dev testing the game I guess
actually that is 10.999 Trillion isn't it?
peak viper
<@&509690795536941056> can we have PvP events back please. It's getting a little stale without it. Ignore the farmville wannabes whining on Facebook. This game is for men and klingon.
pseudo glen
How about fixing all of the bugs in the game before introducing more? Pretty sad that officers have been mostly broken and then demonstrate pure stupidity by offering getting more officers that likewise are broke too!
sleek zealot
Most officers are fixed now @pseudo glen afaik.
peak viper
Not human... I think the term man (and by extension woman) imply huMAN. 😆 Klingons are of course male and female (and other, if they have the principle of non-binary-ism that is topical at the moment?)... but not men. @fast zinc
fast zinc
haha
peak viper
So @devs <@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> more PvP events yes please!!!!
Ignore the whiners and the farmville wannabes and give rewards for the bloodlust, we crave warfare
topaz sphinx
<--- whiner Farmville wannabe here. Keep the PvE content coming.
(Though it's a pvp game and you make more money from pvp fear and revenge, that or the "how much money can your alliance spend in X hours" power grind)
balmy grove
@sleek zealot just not the ones that are purple in this Valentine's event they are trying to get people to blow money on for broken crap.
I have yet to see these so called event missions that we can earn ultra tokens on either
kindred aurora
Oh good, an alliance event for tokens! None for me!
topaz sphinx
Loving the x2 drop rate lol
zenith cradle
ya, I can get MORALE to trigger, but Sulu's ability that requires MORALE won't trigger.
gray pine
Sulu work
vagrant topaz
I just opened 8 x premium recruit things, got 0 spocks. Very much indeed encouraging to do a purchase lol
craggy oyster
@dnd#0081 lol
@zenith cradle the best that I've seen Sulu activate is every other round, but that's just to see the text where it's activated the amount of time that it actually increases damage seems to be about 50%
zenith cradle
The only time I've gotten Sulu's increased damage is when he's the Capt - about half the time. It never fires when Arkady is Capt and triggers Morale, in my experience.
slim forge
You guys either need to fix the economy of this game or adapt the prices, this has become nuts, and I'm yet lvl 22.
The vaults are a joke, see this picture for example, why should we invest a ton of rss on a vault that allows you to protect 30k?
coarse cave
barren yoke
You will have to upgrade them anyways to go past level 24
vagrant topaz
@slim forge
topaz sphinx
Yup
astral galleon
The economics of this game are so stupidly broken and are absolute garbage. It just seems to be designed to wring money out of players because there's no good way you can reasonably refine or mine the necessary rss to get your upgrades done even at my level(28). You have to buy packs and spend hundreds of dollars.
rancid cedar
Or destroy other players games and raid them dry. Both are unsustainable.
rich frigate
Yup, I would be OK if the command center requires a raid to upgrade and the rest of the building don’t assuming you maxed out the warehouse storage.
As for the vaults, if they secure so little, the cost to upgrade them should be smaller too (MUCH smaller)
rancid cedar
Scopleys argument is that with research the storage, protection and generation improve...but its only there as a back stop.
Its a fair call...but u need to be able to generate enough to repair ships and base if completely destroyed.
A scenario where you have all 4 ships docked and dead with a cost 500k to 1m to repair each from dead means you're out of action for a month if not longer just to rep the ships. Makes no sense at all. Forced to stop playing or buy a pack. Thats not F2P at all.
rich frigate
That is totally broken and also one of my fears. I get raided and sucked dry and all of my ship in ruins.... the resource generation is meh. I can fix my ships now because it’s cheap but higher up, it would be cost prohibitive and only way to get active is to fork out cash or if lucky, have spare Latium at hand. That is not sustainable
topaz sphinx
Wow. That's bleak
At that rate itd be 100d to build level 40 operations lol
And a billion in rss
wind quartz
It’s broken by design, the system is implemented in this fashion to force you to by packs to upgrade. It’s rather shifty if you ask me.
And if you want prof of that listen to this interview with the dev CEO https://soundcloud.com/techemergence/scopely-and-the-uses-of-ai-and
zenith cradle
7:45 - 10 min mark confirms this. At 10 min he says they're seeking to manipulate emotions. Thanks for the post @wind quartz confirms what I was thinking and what's pretty much obvious.
The higher level you go, the higher level player can hit you, the wider the PvP band. But you're already invested, so rather than walk away you are encouraged to spend to compete - to get revenge or be the one that smacks other levels around.
balmy grove
Problem is the f2p players die out and then theres less and less to kill and soon the game is dead cause it's too much of a pain to advance
Yeah I don't invest in systems like this cause 99% of the population wont and the game dies and they are left with nothing
boreal bison
I'm thinking Scopely needs to make this payable now, or refund everything to everyone.
balmy grove
They need to make it so advancement is possible at a decent rate for f2p then the p2w players will be able to actually gain something with a larger player base. P2w means faster advancement with Speed Ups and g2/3 resources. Not basic resources. Those should be the slow down not par/trit/dil if they think any different then they've lost the game
I will gladly pay for g2/3 for ship upgrades and certain pay walls and to speed up progress but not for 99% bottle neck on everything little single thing
sand moss
In space no one can hear Scopely cashing their checks
topaz sphinx
But you can hear the refunds lol
weak wharf
Everyone spends money on a bugged game. The industry hasn’t released a complete game in 25 years
craggy oyster
@pseudo glen I spend money on the game, and I think the game itself is fun. Just think people need to be aware that Scopely's in-game marketing and sales push is focused on products (such as Spock) that don't function. What is problematic with Scopely is that the development timelelines between patches are too long and not very good in terms of bug fixes
I wish they could find a better model that is a little more broad and not so focused on feeding oils, but I'm not the designer or developer or responsible for their profit margins so I cannot speak to that LOL
weak wharf
The only monetization I dislike as an example here are the officer packs. They’re quite simply gambling packs. Really wish all games would stop that practice.
Other than that you know what you’re getting into.
timid rampart
wet vale
Uh this new D’jaoki unlock from feb 11th - you going to reset the 24 crates for people that already looted theirs without him present?
kindred aurora
All they need to do is run it for a multiple of 24 hours. I'm in the same boat having opened mine already today.
viscid quartz
Me too but I fear it is like the jelley. Needed 75 parts to build but provide only 74
Why even tease it as something you can find just make it a total pay thing and be honest upfront
vale tangle
The new chest becomes available starting at noon PST. Like the ns chest was, it sounds like this will be as separate thing.
vagrant topaz
It is separate box, has nothing to do with your 24h box.
astral galleon
These events are idiotic. Without fixing core issues this game will die. There are already people that are P2P that are leaving in disgust. There are shield glitch problems that left people open to being taken for millions in resources. The upgrade requirements are stupidly out of whack for what some of the station and ship components provide. The game glitches are building by the day. These transition screens between menu's have to go, they are seriously lagging game play. 4 sec's between menu can mean life or death. I'm not the only one voicing these concerns. But of course they'll be ignored in the order they were received.
velvet canopy
iOS app is better than android as to bugs... the server reset/maintenance fixed iOS app but nothing has been done for Android app
Just as buggy as before
native hollow
iOS app has more bugs than before. Unstable after this last update. Will crash multiple times especially when you are being attacked.
velvet canopy
Not nearly as bad as Android app though
solar harbor
@weak wharf spent lof of money on blizzard game with no regrets 😃
green quartz
I just wanted to point out the D’Jaoki does not fit with Romulan nomenclature. It would be either S’ or Tr’.
vagrant topaz
@solar harbor what game?
vagrant topaz
@green quartz He is in the game because the CTO is a DJ too.
topaz sphinx
I promised (well somewhat agreed) I would be less salty to @vagrant topaz haha. So I'm gonna just walk on by that last comment
topaz sphinx
It is kind of funny, my power level actually went down when I got him hahahahaahahahahaha
elder laurel
sinful gull
vagrant topaz
@topaz sphinx Thank you. Feel free to keep it a little spicy though. :D
@green quartz there was D'Tan...
green quartz
@vagrant topaz yeah but he though the Romulans and Vulcans would reunify so what does he know
vagrant topaz
True dat
uneven relic
@vagrant topaz, whats with not having any officer Events at all this week so far, it keeps on going through Research, and Station events.
I've got officers I want to upgrade but want to do it during a Officer event, to make the most of it, but normally we get it a couple times a week, as they normally are on a cycle of station, research and officer, but it's just kept changing research and station, research & station.
oh and Ship,
but haven't had a officer one yet.
uneven relic
Lol, isn’t it funny that I posted on here and then next round of event I get an Officer event 😂😂 @vagrant topaz
azure epoch
Spent 26h of speedups to finish defense platform level 20, got 0 points towards station event. Support says working as intended and they won't refund the speedups. Nowhere in the game or FAQ does it say defense platforms don't count.
gritty crag
this "double" drop event is the worst event ever, considering the overall lack off content in the game, the weekly event is the only thing that keeps most ppl playing.
cobalt palm
When does the Valentine's event end? Wanna know when to cash in my tokens by
kindred aurora
Feb 15th 9am (PST). 5pm (UTC). From the Official Announcement channel.
cobalt palm
thanks
vagrant topaz
@uneven relic 🕵
uneven relic
@vagrant topaz 😄
left crater
<@&509691205798592532> amm guys where did steve go ? weren't we suppose to get them for few more days so we can upgrade him ?
worldly wolf
I thought we were going to get enough pieces to promote D'jaoki but I just opened the box and I only have half of pieces and the box has disappeared from my gifts area wtf is going on?
obtuse urchin
na., he disappeared from the awards page
worldly wolf
We were supposed to get enough pieces to promote him a full promotion
left crater
jeah and only 12/24 for update...
obtuse urchin
has disappeared off the server where my alt base is. will know in 5mins if it disappears from main account too
worldly wolf
@left crater yes like that
obtuse urchin
yeah, just disappeared after opening on my main account
now looking forward to the loyalty pack
it's gonna get very noisy in here soon 😂
delicate moss
This event had nothing to it. Get a free box every 24 hours and spend money to upgrade my base and research?
How about pvp or even pve.... give me something to work towards. Also I want a pve or pvp event that I can grind and earn uncommon g3 materials.... make it worth it.
coarse spindle
@obtuse urchin noted. Thanks
obtuse urchin
4 days early. a new record for chests/packs disappearing
languid frigate
Same mine disappeared as well
vale tangle
Snd yet. When I log in there is his pic on an event splash screen still.
pseudo glen
Another broken feature for Scopely of not having the box for the set amount of days. Any on surprised by the lack of credibility for this company when it can even honor a free officer??
coarse spindle
They did say the updates would change gameplay...they never said in WHICH direction
heady gorge
same heree
thought event was over and i missed a few days, could of swore ive been logging in daily
think i lost it when updated client
rich frigate
Q, please read my suggestion in the idea and suggestion tab
mental anvil
Same here disappeared...similar to Northstar event showed up 2 days after event started
opal stump
Like most things with this game, it’s only half done.
karmic zenith
Likewise missing Steve. Would like to get a response from Q2.
main kettle
@karmic zenith no answer is an answer
polar marsh
@karmic zenith it’s on another channel. Appears is still there in cooldown but not visible. Would make sense I guess since I think we lost it after collection vs all at the same time. We shall see if it gets fixed though...
gritty crag
Again an event without G3 uncommen😒
raven stratus
Another mining event and mining officers still broken...
vagrant topaz
Indeed no basic rss no g3 uc just more officer shards without the xp and in quantities too low to be useful to anyone other than whales
@vagrant topaz Given that we have a MINING event, it would likely spur increased demand and potentially more sales to have a SHIP MINING package made available at the four price-points. Also, with February being such a short month, means a few less days to meet the month's sales quotas. Would this be something worth considering to help improve the player experience?
How does spending more goddamm money improve the experience?
rich frigate
I agree with @vagrant topaz Why spend more on a game that is clearly not completed or broken?
I won’t spend any more until a lot of the basic issues are fixed, mining bonuses, officer skills (especially miners), the economy being more sensible
vagrant topaz
@worldly wolf You will. There has been an issue with him for some players. Do not worry if you were effected I believe a solution is being applied.
Loyalty crate?
I love those...
blissful kiln
really, an individual mining event thats based on ranks.? talk about feeding the paying players. why isn't like b4, individual mining based on meeting the checklist. how can a lvl 20 compete with a lvl 25, yet along with all those lvl 30+ out there.
vagrant topaz
€€€€€ thats how spend until you have a useable horizon then you are one of the favoured and can compete
@vagrant topaz @rich frigate Well, spending money is entirely the player's choice. One does so to obtain an in-game advantage to some extent. A mining package alone does not guarantee a win but provides the player for a better opportunity to win. Don't forget, there's no getting around the tier-up time without some sort of trade-off (i.e. speedups or latinum). For those at major disadvantages, IMHO, any opportunity is far better than none.
The fact that the only way to advance at anything other than a snail's pace requires massive spending is the biggest complaint from the playerbase as it is....adding more cash grabs will only serve to alienate even more players.
And it is only an "opportunity" if you both have the cash and are willing to waste it on some pixels scopely will likely yank from under you in a month....again
vagrant topaz
Perhaps the snail's pace is the intended pace, racing ahead so quickly, that the developers have yet to implement that portion of the game also is to the detriment of the player experience.
For instance, the marketplace is a presently a level 50 building, however it is highly doubtful that it is intended to be only that high. At some point, game development will "patch"this element and enable it to be accessed at some lower level. Similarly, with the oddly out of place 4* ship research that we all can see.... there's more to this game than we see at present but in an commercial world, it was clearly released prior to full completion with concurrent development underway (i.e. look at the new ships).
gritty crag
Somehow they need to balance the p2w, atm the 4-5 most highest powered ppl can latterly lock down a whole server if they want to
But you should not be able to use money in and Alpha stage game, ppl first figure out that the game is Alpha stage when they have spend money
fossil mica
@vagrant topaz what are the chances of this resource gathering event counting resources farmed as well as resources gained from mining?
topaz sphinx
the rich get richer, the poor get poorer
nothing new here (don't like it, find it annoying that the same alliances win EVERY single event so what's the point anymore)
worldly wolf
@vagrant topaz well they put it back but after I opened it up it disappears again not f__king cool you guys did the same thing with the Northstar gift crate it disappears and we get nothing
hasty hemlock
@worldly wolf the announcement says it will come back tomorrow regardless
vagrant topaz
This current event makes clear how sick the balance is in this game🤬
vagrant topaz
yup, every mining spot in the game is locked down
wet vale
Yup, this event stinks. This will be a whole weekend i can't complete my daily quests because i can't mine more than 100 g3 gas without getting ganked, and because i worked on faction rep like you told me to, my dailies are to kill lvl26&7 mobs when i'm lvl22. It's impossible.
kindred aurora
I'm in the same boat. But it is funny that a mining event turned into their most successful PvP event. Constant node warfare!
topaz sphinx
Our server is pretty peaceful. I hope they don't merge us with one of your servers lol
worldly wolf
The whole f_ing game is still bugged like the refining glitches, the dead RSS nodes WTF Scopely? When are you going to fix the fking game and stop adding stupid stuff to the game?
noble obsidian
Any one still have the uhara package in their offers. Could only purchase it once others seem to be doing a lot more then once
gilded edge
I think its actuvity is triggered by combat training 20
worldly wolf
Why is it when you go to Recruit chests and get the largest chests and open 1 at a time you get duplicate crew but the piece count is only from the first crate it never give concurrent number in progression? There have been multiple times when I got multiple Kirks, Spocks, or any other one and only got credit for the first one Wtf Scopely? My crewmen should have been at Max for my lvl in game many times over. When are you guys going to fix this s h I t?
clever shuttle
For the love of all things that are good in the universe, please please please do not ever have another mining event. It is so freaking boring. Do more hostile hunts or PVP but never another mining event.
heady gorge
anyone experincing, when going to galaxy getting lost connection, been going on since last night, if i try to view galaxy! boom! connection lost! ?
gilded edge
do you have a firewall that blocks potential (d)dos atttacks or rate limits connections ?
topaz sphinx
Don't listen to @clever shuttle , I like the mining event and would love more PvE events. So I guess half listen cuz I miss the hostile hunt too
clever shuttle
If I wanted to mine all day I might as will just go play Farmville. Basically the same thing.
topaz sphinx
But it's in spaaaaaace
(And people can come in a rip up all your crops, any chance of progression is tied to paying, and your ability to level your crops up is super bottlenecked to force p2p and p2w)
tired mountain
Haha the dumbest thing about mining events and mining in general is there is not Benefit to mining more minerals. You can only refine every 10 hrs 12k T3 regardless of how much you have so mining it literally a gigantic waste of time. 36k rss every 10hrs I can kill miners and get that in 1 hr tops or mine it in 4-5
gray pine
@tired mountain 28 ops 75k rrs for x3
wild turtle
<@&509690795536941056> , please post upcoming events in advance. Would be nice to know before it hits, as we tend to unite the alliances to work out a treaty or a change of our basic server rules for the event being.
It's hard to discuss a treaty in 2 hours or less. 😅
ornate trellis
well noted
mental tapir
So new event in 6 minutes and zero information
topaz sphinx
Is there a new event?
fast granite
I am guessing the new event will be realigned with the other events in terms of time, so 50 minutes from now?
thick raven
Please no more mining events.
topaz sphinx
Please more mining events
junior plaza
There is no event...
fair fulcrum
It could be cool to have invasion event. Like borg transwarp portal invading sector. And we have to attack the portal to close them.
wild turtle
You rang?
gilded edge
finally over, so we lower ppl can mine with more peace
vale tangle
You are kidding @ornate trellis right? I go from 14 to 20 and I get 5 each of the t2 uncommons and 4k trit? Really? THATS the incentive? All so I can get ganked by lvl 29 jerks? You might want to check the AI algorithms, they are a tad off....
summer radish
@vale tangle Scroll up in the rewards list
However, Ops 19 -> 20 is a four day build
and this is a three day event
fk free players lol
vagrant topaz
They want the free players to quit,or pay.. simple as that
thick raven
So where is the faction event?
vivid crystal
It’s says it’s a monthly event, but expires in 2d? So does it keep resetting to 3 days or is it not a monthly event?
restive smelt
@vivid crystal it means it appears once per month. So next month people under level 20 can take advantage of the event as well.
vivid crystal
Ok thanks
Pretty sweet deal if your already level 20. “Upgrade any building to 20 and get 5000 points”. So upgrade a generator and reap full rewards
vagrant topaz
Should not drive free players to quit ?
dense spade
@ornate trellis what is scops r3sponse to what @summer radish stated 4 day upgrade 3 day event. How can you make an event like rush to 20 xd.
Bad design..
summer radish
Well, no, intentionally done most likely for monetary gain.
Usually it's not so blatant pre-20
blazing owl
The OPS 20 event isn’t showing in my game
restive smelt
@blazing owl what level are you?
blazing owl
@restive smelt 23
Ah only see it if OPS 20 or lower
Well guess I just have to wait for faction event whenever that starts
restive smelt
Yup. Exactly. There's gonna be an event for 21+ players but it seems to start tomorrow. (But don't quote me in that) i'm sure @ornate trellis will have an update when he wakes up and gets in the office. ^_^
blazing owl
Yep
granite jasper
Upgrading your turret from 19 to 20 actually counts for that event.
dusky tapir
has to be a bug
thorny delta
Anyone know about rss tokens?
rocky tartan
@thorny delta only available in $90 and above packs for me. Maybe from events and stuff later
topaz sphinx
Devs are debating about making more of them, they're 'testing the water'
thorny delta
I saw them in $100 pk. That’s BS
final moat
Can someone please help me delete my account for stfe? Please....
fickle heart
@thorny delta. Not only in $20 packs and up
hushed bone
Upgrade any building to 20 to get the rewards... what happens if you already have everything upgraded to 20? 😦 working on upgrading OPs to 21, so maybe that will work... otherwise, guess I’m going to miss out on those rewards 😕
restive smelt
You'll bein the 21 event i think.
torpid saddle
How about an event available to all regardless of money? I just finished ops 19 when this event started no way I can get to shipyard 19 or ops 20 in two days. This following the mining event aka let’s give the top ten money players four days to beef up more, reward them for it and take away game play from everyone else. I love this game but you’re killing it
unkempt shore
Top money guys are way above 20 and didnt get any event
topaz sphinx
https://www.reddit.com/r/startrekfleetcommand/comments/at4nz5/actual_top_needs_of_community/ comment with what you want, I'll update the running list
green quartz
@ornate trellis so when’s the event?
ornate trellis
#⭐-official-announcements scroll up
green quartz
Ah wonderful. Would’ve been nice to have a new post instead of editing an old one, since I have notifications turned on for that channel and I’m sure I’m not the only one.
ornate trellis
i've been made aware of that, apologies and point taken
green quartz
Thanks @ornate trellis 👍👍 it’s all good. 💋❤️💋
grave wolf
What's the point of a 2day event when level 20 ops upgrade takes 4days... oh yeah for me to get my credit card out I guess!
opal stump
So are there any missions now that drop the Mayflower BP?
keen ravine
The new daily event is counting RSS we bring home negatively against what we spent
Aka I'm negative cause I've brought more home then I've spent wtf
main tendon
So this event is broken? I recalled my miners and because I gained resources it gave me minus points. So I rebooted my game and now the daily event has disappeared completely for me 🙃
keen ravine
Scopley math ftw
main tendon
@ornate trellis you guys aware of this bug?
compact condor
Event is gone for me too, spend 24.000+ dilithium, didn't get the points, restarted, gone...
blazing owl
They owe us a special chest since they took it away and rss was now wasted
topaz sphinx
I'm thinking they're probably aware and running around trying to fix
but then again, I have too much faith in humanity
vale tangle
Lol balance
dark anchor
@ornate trellis so what is your recourse for all of us that have had their events just disappear prior to completion.
timid loom
2 days is not enough since upgrading to lvl 20 require massive rare minerals ( shipyard for example ) and the drops rates are... Well... Very low
The people that were about to upgrade before the events are the winners here.
lament ore
@ornate trellis so where is the event i am lvl23 and says lvl21+ is it just for up to lvl21 players??> the so called 21+ faction event i am waiting on.
topaz sphinx
I think they took it down, was too buggy
lament ore
Too buggy there’s something new💩
barren shore
Top prizes for everybody (it might cool the crowd down lol)
mortal rapids
💩
hollow flower
Event broken for me too. I created a ticket.
tranquil fractal
@ornate trellis The daily FED event disappeared and I was 8800 points from finishing it
tired mountain
Mine too pricks ripped me off for a bunch of lat
restive smelt
@topaz sphinx i to have faith in humanity.
weak ice
devout wind
Stating the obvious but this sounds like it lets the top dogs avoid getting raided whilst they get to milk everyone else
topaz sphinx
The latest update? Yeah pretty much benefits heavily anyone 25 and up
25 and down, well you get increase generator caps which is near useless
umbral yew
Devs need to stop changing the conditions for events after they've started! I logged in just now to see that they've changed the race to level 20 event so that you no longer earn any points for completing lvl 19 shipyard. I spent lat to rush construction to get there in time, now it's a complete waste.
tardy osprey
Faction event is totally underwhelming
topaz sphinx
Is it working again?
sacred scarab
When was there ever anything about completing the shipyard in the race to 20 event? I'd swear from the start it said "get ops to x level" and only ops level 20s had the option to upgrade any building to 20
vagrant topaz
Bugged event guy made 200,000 points in 1 minute
umbral yew
@Starslip: Yesterday shipyard level 19 was included in the event, and worth 700 points. You're right that otherwise it was upgrading ops. I assume they put shipyard level 19 in for people like me who had just made it to level 19.
sacred scarab
I see. My mistake then
wild turtle
The supremacy event, is that the one with 2,3m mobs? 😱
dawn pasture
@ornate trellis a lot of players were able to finish the solo events last night and gain thousands of points towards the ranking, then the solo events were pulled, what is being done about this unfair advantage?
woven valve
@ornate trellis I just upgrade operation 19 when the operation 20 event begin, the event is to short for me to be able to upgrade my operation 20, isn't it possible to have unlock event rewards by updating any building 19 ?