@delicate sentinel Seems pretty darned obvious that this is NOT what the community wants. It is also not April fools.
#💬-general-feedback
shell fractal
mild herald
Panic how else are we supposed to get khan shards other than on the augment store, and that is only at ally.
modest lance
The power of the Whale is strong at Scopely 😉
If you have a trust fund, a powerful whale you can become 😉
dusty portal
It takes ⚽️ 🏀 🏈 to feed us bull 💩 and tell us it’s chocolate ice cream.
river turtle
why do some perople faction loyalty pack 2 reset so they get free badges and appearently swarm mission but not everybody??
dusty portal
@river turtle that’s a thing?
mild herald
Never heard of it @river turtle
river turtle
yes, alliance mates told me
mild herald
How is it done then?
nova sierra
Scopely can you please sort out the refinery.... I'm doing 2 cases at a time on crystal and the last 4 have not had one uncommon crystal drop.... FFS......
dusty portal
Working as intended ajstorm
That’s why the refinery building doesn’t show probabilities. It’s a black box
peak lily
keep the khan shards as reward and exchange mara with 10of10 shards
dusty portal
It doesn’t even show what improvement is gained from leveling the refinery
quick coral
Largely because there really isn't any.
dusty portal
Truth lol
quick coral
People say that as you level, it pays out better. I say "lies". There appears to be no evidence that it pays better at higher levels than at lower. If anything, refinery payout has been tweaked over time so it has had better payout over time (before grade 4 ships, smallest uncommon pull could be was 4, now it is 7)
dusty portal
I agree
outer blade
@panic if you can't tell, no one wanted the change. Please change it back
mint sedge
The removal of Khan and Mara shards from the weekly Swarm event rewards is a bad move in my opinion.
turbid raft
How about you make the refinery work better. Try helping that way.
wraith peak
The change to the swarm event is awful news to our alliance of 68 players.
inland steeple
so... now that you put the Khan rewards back in the swarm events... how about you make the data mines bigger in Augment space? 8-9 second resets of those mines for mining events is pretty mind-numbing.
lilac storm
Two attacking hostiles?????
visual agate
@delicate sentinel The retraction of ultra tokens from swarm event is appreciated. I am sure players would had been okay with it only if the ultra tokens that replaced the Khan and Mara shards were of equal value. Still happy that it is now reverted
lilac storm
Never moves towards me or even into the system at all.
This player seems to have agro’d me.
Who’s “very hard” and occupying the node?
How about getting some attention for the many bugs and glitches?
heady crest
Thank you for adding Khan shards back
urban schooner
You guys seriously need to unveil a new big event like the Borg event. These same old events are like a revolving door of boredom. Starting to lose players of the game because of it. The daily grind is monotonous.
bronze fulcrum
Why did you backtrack on the swarm rewards? Why are you bowing to a few outspoken morons who don’t have any representative function? I was totally stoked that you were changing the swarm rewards to not be locked into a couple of officers I don’t need. Thanks.
unique mortar
@bronze fulcrum do you have a maxed khan?
lost crypt
Want feedback. PUT BADGES IN THE 30/60 day LOYALTY CHEST
woven flare
I like the fact they put it back. Mara gives me tps and Khan is a great officer.
I wish they would put all the epic officers available for purchase with TP’s
magic cedar
I don't think the events are the reason the game is losing players. What's there after enterprise/d4/augur for normal players? The perspectives are zero:
- jellyfish might be an option, but the competition for it is so insane...
- lvl 42 ships? lvl 42 for a player that just got an epic 34 ship is light years away. And we know the problem with those ships, 100M trit to repair (with prime repair) makes it a ship you keep dock all the time.
last nest
Exactly.. once you hit those mid 30's you mainly want to just packup cuz you will be waiting years to upgrade one part on that epic ship
lyric mango
Not if you spend money. That's all they want 🙂
Regardless, I have a question... Why is it that the July reward packs only have the Elite version....?
You're high on crack if you think I'm buying that for $100 LoL.
bitter ginkgo
Dear developers, could you put up a milestone event where we earn officer badges? Your PvP event is totally lame. Hhahaha
wraith meteor
Scopely tech support is a joke. They closed my ticket after 7 days because they did not handle the issue. I guess if you don’t constantly send nasty messages they do not think your issue needs to be resolved.
dull storm
Some peoples loyalty packs in the faction store have reset allowing them to buy loyalty pack 2 again and get double the amount of badges at this level. This is not really fair for the game with some players getting extra badges that everyone has not gotten. This should be reset for all players to make it an even playing field
cobalt gust
That only helps if you have been able to collect it the first time. What about those who have not ever collected it?
red stone
re Swarm Sundays - thing is, swarms has nothing to do with Kahn... should replace him with Jaylah, first off. Secondly, why not move Kahn into the Ultra Chest where the rest of the Epics are? Give us more Frequency Modulators instead.
sharp moth
The updates to this game have been constantly reducing there logical deductions from stupidity to being moronic. Active mining, abysmal ROI, erroneous bugs, event payout, paywalls meant for elite Kings and countless more that a normal player faces on a minute by minute basis. Hopefully a Vulcan will take charge of strategic development of the game compared to the current monkey pulling the strings. 😡
cerulean quest
Make events for officercharts . What is the point of gettin charts when you can’t upgrade your officer ... And why do I stil get kumari / vaklas and khendra bp’s for killing level 40ships !!!! I don’t need them , can build an fleet of ships ... either stop that or make a trade for bp posible ! @delicate sentinel
trim sinew
Really?? My last 4 refinery runs with double chests have yielded ZERO uncommon crystal/gas/ore. Grinding for Garbage is a waste of time. And you wonder why the game is shrinking?
sour basalt
Thanks for adding this to recruits but where’s 5of10 and 10of10? Any chance of adding them as well
short field
Is it just me, or is there no clear way to report abusive players?
chrome elk
@sour basalt Had just come on to ask the same thing.
frigid jolt
@short field in game support
short field
Found it. Not the most clear path, but found it.
The path I went through was settings-terms of service and privacy-terms of service-didnt find useful->contact us. Filled in the blanks and attachment button on upper right corner
frigid jolt
Yep. I should have said you just check #557163704383438850 we have it in there. Sorry😅
azure sorrel
@frigid jolt @delicate sentinel Any word on these loyalty packs reappearing in faction tabs?? Not fair for some to get those again, while the rest of us don't... Badges are very important in game advancing and hard to get, plus they don't come cheap. Please reply something, as i opened a ticket with support yesterday and still no response. Thanks
fast gulch
Does Scopely or Digit support harassment?
If not how about removing or adjusting “power destroyed” leaderboard to reflect this. How about a couple levels below and infinite levels above just for the leaderboard.
Some players use this leaderboard as an excuse to be bullies which is harassment.
I posted this as a suggestion to curb the desire of higher levels. It was removed from suggestions so now I feel as though suggesting something is a waste of time unless it makes money.
grizzled tartan
@fast gulch don't spam the same post in multiple channels please
teal falcon
Does Scopely or Digit support harassment?
If not how about removing or adjusting “power destroyed” leaderboard to reflect this. How about a couple levels below and infinite levels above just for the leaderboard.
Some players use this leaderboard as an excuse to be bullies which is harassment.
@fast gulch If the game mechanics allow you to do this and use the pd score for this purpose then how is that bullying and harassment ?
copper rain
I doubt this feedback channel is ever read, however, my biggest issue at the moment is ship blueprints, especially from armada packs. If i have a ship, built, i should receive some form of blueprint credit, not the ship blueprints. There may be a reason some players want a second faction miner, or a second intrepid, but id much rather be able to obtain other faction ships. Id even do a mission chain to gain access and take an exchange hit (5 bps of one ship give you 3 for another) I dont understand why we can do it for officers and not ship blueprints?
fast gulch
I fail to see how awarding someone for extremely easy kills should be something worthwhile.
A 4 million power ship killing a 375 k ship eleven levels lower should not be awarded as power destroyed. It makes the title worth more if there is a real challenge to get it.
nova sierra
Pd shouldn't be a thing, period.
fast gulch
@teal falcon “Power Destroyed” title should not be so easy to get. It makes the title too easy to achieve if you can kill almost indiscriminately. Taking candy from a baby is easy but should it be rewarded or stopped?
visual agate
there should be a negative pd when someone kills 7-10 ops below 🤣 I personally don't mind being challenged by my servers higest spenders even though saladin was my only big ship till ops 36. But i understand the frustration of players losing ships to rogues for no reason at all.
quick coral
<@&509691205798592532> I know I have had my fair share of complaints, but just want to take a moment and thank you guys for the work you do moderating these channels.
modest lance
Oi Scopely, I am lvl 30 player. Before making transports/surveys more difficult to kill, at least notify the players. You know, engage with us. The smallest things, really do annoy some players. My guess is some of the whales complained transports were harder for them - so Scopely choose to make them harder for everyone.... engage with your player base... morons.
nova sierra
Err...what?
modest lance
I am a lvl 30. I have pike/moreau/chen on a legionary. See how much shield damage they do now. I tried this in fed space, Sirius. Killed several - but nowhere near the number I was able to kill.
The "difficulty" has changed after the update
nova sierra
Hmm, I'll have to take your word for it can't say as I've noticed a change tbh
modest lance
Other players in my alliance have also noticed it. So it isn't just me.
winter wing
It's good to see schwarzeKras in the transporter patterns store... Will the tribble be added as well? Many, I'm sure, tried to get the tribble and came close. Asking for a friend. 😁
robust helm
I am a lvl 30. I have pike/moreau/chen on a legionary. See how much shield damage they do now. I tried this in fed space, Sirius. Killed several - but nowhere near the number I was able to kill.
@modest lance There are three types of survey faction ships if I'm not wrong... traders, transport, and veteran
I guess the old ships are the powerful ones
Those existed since the early days of games
the weaker ones were added later
I could be wrong
It's good to see schwarzeKras in the transporter patterns store... Will the tribble be added as well? Many, I'm sure, tried to get the tribble and came close. Asking for a friend. 😁
@winter wing I wish the tribble was here too
vague holly
@teal falcon “Power Destroyed” title should not be so easy to get. It makes the title too easy to achieve if you can kill almost indiscriminately. Taking candy from a baby is easy but should it be rewarded or stopped?
@fast gulch How about a PD Ratio instead of straight PD. Player Ships Destroyed/PD. This would make those who killed many weaker ships lower than those who killed a few strong ships.
nova sierra
Or just remove survey ships from pd altogether.
That would stop 75% of the idiots cleaning systems for chuckles
teal falcon
It is the people who have decided on the rules of this , if this was so bad or not allowed it shouldn't have been implemented into the game.
I'm not having a go or anything just trying to see both sides in regards to it.
fast gulch
@teal falcon I prefer to just remove it. Scopely code writers have enough to “fix” already. 🤣
teal falcon
Fair point @fast gulch 😂🖖
fast gulch
I put it in suggestions and it got deleted. I guess maybe the moderator doesn’t like the idea.
night phoenix
I have just done 26 1/2 thousand swarm points, upon going back to my base I got noneI repeat noneI ask you to put this right it takes longer Enough. To get this amount at level 25, approximately 1 1/2 hours. Yours pointless hoping for a correction
runic mantle
After a few weeks of reprieve from the bugs causing ship lock/not registering attacks properly, they are back again in full force. Please do regression testing on your product. If you already do regression testing, change your regression testing system because I don't find it to be working very well
limpid cipher
The “Epic” part of Epic Armadas should be in the kill and the rewards. Not in simply finding one.
median bear
Just had server merge . Before the merge the game was okay, good number of nodes, a little short on housing spaces, but the data changes were terrible.
After the merge there is nothing that I can do without having too many other ships in the way, makes the game basically unplayable for me because of to many players for housing spaces / resources etc
tribal monolith
Don't know what have you done as last few days i keep disconnecting from the game. If you don't want me in just ask politely i will quit.
robust helm
Server Mergers are pretty bad... Our server just merged and both our servers were pretty full already. Now the game is so much crowded.... every node occupied even warp 40+, and almost impossible to hunt scouts
Why was the server even merged? we already had so many players and now it is sooooooo crowded
We demand that before any such drastic actions, players can at least vote
This simply made the game even more boring
As it is we could not progress because of lack of UC/Rare G3 materials
Now mining is going to be frustrating since no mines are available and hunting for one is so boring
Simply scanning 50-80 mines is not fun
And moreover scouts are even worse
scouts spawn like once every 15-30 mins
and now there are at least half a dozen players waiting in those systems
If the servers were empty and merged to have a healthy community, that is understandable
But why merge two crowded servers and get them over crowded?
I'm from server 195 and 194 merged with us
And to other players, if your servers are full and have not merged yet, please raise voice against it or you will have a real hard time.
visual agate
that might just be your opinion though. Our server is pretty much active but not what it used to be 8 months ago. quarter of our alliance members are now bored because they have reached ops 34+ and there is little action between alliances due to abundance of free nodes. I personally am fine with easy gameplay but would rather have a competitive server where it is difficult to even mine.
robust helm
that might just be your opinion though. Our server is pretty much active but not what it used to be 8 months ago. quarter of our alliance members are now bored because they have reached ops 34+ and there is little action between alliances due to abundance of free nodes. I personally am fine with easy gameplay but would rather have a competitive server where it is difficult to even mine.
@visual agate A little competition is fine... but too much makes it frustrating
If you are bored, you might like to go out and play some cricket... not go on a war with a nation
visual agate
a very bad comparison. a game designed for ship killing and base raid and loot is supposed to be fun doing them and not mining. cricket is altogether the most boring game ever invented 😂
real coral
Server 26 does a battle royal on certain days so people can test crews and ships. It’s fun
nova sierra
Server #43 is having a station shield bug. Here is our admiral’s warning to our alliance
@everyone theres a new bug flying around our system atm. It apparently makes your base shield randomly drop. Please keep an eye on your accounts guys
prisma jay
@everyone
Server #43 is having a station shield bug. Here is our admiral’s warning to our alliance
@nova sierra had this happen to me on server 42 last night
cerulean belfry
Please! Bring pvp, blood and sweat to the game.
I’m dying of boredom of the FarmVille style
🖖
quasi wren
Really? An entire 5 day wait for 1 regular warp cell. Ridiculous. If you’re going to put regular warp cells as a chance prize. Put 5 in not a lousy 1 cell.
oblique grove
Why do I only have the $19 4th of July Pack available??? 
lost crypt
Put badges in 30 day loyalty token chests. For the love of God
quasi wren
Could be dependant on money spent. Do you still have the option for the choice Monthly pack?
nova bear
We need to be able to get more badges that is the biggest complaint
Also server 18 needs to be merged we r bored
oblique grove
Already got July Elite
rare mortar
This isn’t an actual problem, just a bit of a consistency thing. Why does it show gas as the primary reward for fed dailys, but Klingon rep as the primary reward for Klingon dailys?
nova bear
All I want is another way to earn badges not sure why that became a bottleneck but it needs to change
proud scarab
What is the use of selling rare- and epic-Armada packages when there are no Armadas Lvl 33 or 36? Who will buy such packages?
alpine tapir
If I had previously liked the STFC Facebook page before your promotion, do I still qualify for your offer??
nova bear
Make badges more available
hallow pumice
There are level 33 epics @proud scarab
river turtle
yes but they are basically allways gone because respawn time sucks
ripe vigil
remote iris
Hi is anyone else having problems with trying to change servers. Have only just started playing and wanting to join friends server, I have to token to change server but doesn't give me option to change. Any help with this issue would be appreciated thanks.
glass horizon
Is there any info on what is happening with the data nodes? Are they staying as they are? As mining data this way is very annoying!
nimble mural
@remote iris What level are you?
@glass horizon They're staying like they are for now
remote iris
I'm only level 3
nimble mural
Ok, do you know your friend's server number?
glass hamlet
@ripe vigil none of the flags work 
remote iris
Server EU167
nimble mural
@remote iris If you've already gotten the Novice Transfer Token from gifts, then go to your avatar, click settings, then click 'change universe' and scroll through until you find server 167
remote iris
Have tried this but doesn't show the change universe option in settings.
nimble mural
Then you may be one of the unlucky ones who are on a server so new that Scopely don't allow transfers yet. You will probably have to contact Customer Support to confirm either way.
remote iris
Ah right. Well I've message them on Facebook. Hopefully they will reply back, and thanks for the help.
nimble mural
Facebook? Do it via the in-game option mate
remote iris
Ok will do thanks
high igloo
Where are the complimentary 7 day shield gifts for COVID? It's still a problem in the US and people should still have access to those.
teal falcon
@remote iris What level are you?
@nimble mural Is there a minimum level you have to reach first I'm sure there was just can't recall exactly ?
nimble mural
You have to be level 12 or under to transfer to another server @teal falcon
remote iris
I'm level 6 now and you have to use the token before you reach level 12.
teal falcon
Ah it's set to be under a level apologies then thanks buddy
cold birch
I have a problem. Some alliances have labeled the northern star as a battle ship. However this ship bears the insignia of a miner. As I see it the game designers have given this ship rather ability to defend itself against attackers not available in previous versions of miners.
That being the case then should not the insignia be changed to that of a battleship or left as a miner and make non opc or node 0 roe violations
nimble mural
It's a miner, not a battleship. It's just a tough miner.
And ROE is server-specific, nothing to do with Scopely
high igloo
I sent scopley a ticket a week ago and I have got nothing
hallow pumice
It depends on what the tickets are about that you send in
high igloo
It's about account retrieval
river turtle
When will you finally do something about the badges people received for free and others didnt?
hazy wedge
My game freezes all the time, it is really annoying. Also often it shows the wrong players (ships and station). Only if I click on them it updates them.
analog jetty
cyan hull
I typically don't get notified if my station has been attacked. Even when I'm online playing the game.
austere reef
Hi. My question is what Scopely is doing about a player whose documented abuse and harassment and targeting originated in sexist origin, has been notified with over 60 ss so far (with more still), and still allowed to continued said harassment and abuse for another 4 weeks, unchecked?
magic anvil
sry guys, i just learned there is no more faction lock in the game. is it true?
lusty shore
Scopley your Refinery Rates are total Dog Shite, ive had 3 full days of refines and had nor damn Rare Crystal. Complete Bull
frigid jolt
It is called RARE for a reason...
safe ledge
How are supposed to upgrade ships if there’s not enough materials
Not being able to get enough materials to upgrade ship puts lower levels at a disadvantage to upgrade. What will you do about it.
lost crypt
PUT BADGES IN THE 30 day loyalty chests. Or back in faction store with a 30 day cooldown
teal falcon
👀
coral raptor
It is a shame to scopely not place official badges in chest 3. It takes you 20 million points to get celebrated. @delicate sentinel
wooden nebula
lucid zodiac
Get support staff that will actually do their job & instead expecting players to. We don't have access to a completed missions log & the burden of proof demanded is ridiculous. Never before have I been asked to produce screenshots for each step of every glitch I encountered, especially when it's an error I didn't notice until after completing several missions to find the rewards had not been awarded to me.
What is point playing if I am expected to constantly screenshot everything that happens, just so, when errors do occur, your support staff will off their behinds & fix it.
gaunt geyser
From Server 43, we are seeing an increasingly large numbers of ghost bases, across all levels. Is there any startegy to remove these abandoned bases?
latent cloud
Stop doing this. I wouldn't mind if the extra cost was added to the ops and shipyard because I wouldn't see it, this way it's just an irritation that breeds a deeper dislike for the motive. Which of course we know but it doesn't require our noses rubbing in it 🙂 Rant over 🙂
limpid crown
ionic glen
nova bear
Sitting here with 30+ million in captain xp with no place to use it because everything needs a badge. Get more badges into the game
olive wraith
maintenance 24th march?? which year @delicate sentinel
quick coral
Gonna just toss this out there.... "this is a pvp game". But, pvp would suggest that both parties involved have a chance to win the combat, just depends on who is the better player. Having a level 41 with a 5 million power black jelly smash my base, or my miner, or my 1 million warship, is not even close to me having a chance. Maybe if it was a 3M enterprise vs a 2m gladius... but ops 40+ vs ops 30? Pvp range desperately needs to be reassessed.
tough pilot
Why is it the refinery never gives uc when u need it. Scopely will give a generic rubbish answer as usual. If I were to buy a pack with uc gas in it, I guarantee I'd get uc gas from the refinery after. What are the odds huh?
nova bear
Has anyone complained recently about the lack of badges in game??? If not I am now
quick coral
Lack of badges is a huge problem.
For a very long time, I have all that I can get. 2 of each. Don't want to spend 99 to get to more of each...
lost crypt
Daily reminder feedback# PUT BADGES IN THE 30 day loyalty chest or in the faction store with a 30 day cooldown
nova sierra
Too long.
quick coral
#F2PBadgesPlease
nova bear
We need to keep the pressure up on getting more badges in game who can we complain to on here
dawn nexus
incase anyone is interested in my opinion on game state
tepid narwhal
Just read it, thank you for writing this up. It echos a lot of the player base complaints but will sadly be ignored as there's no monetary gains to be made by fixing them.
thorny briar
To honor a player
nova sierra
Nice. Did they pass away?
thorny briar
No he choose to leave the game
tall veldt
@dawn nexus
All true
The game is now tedious and boring
This weekend we had one event that we all did in 20 minutes
No new content goodbye players
nova bear
Tomorrow’s update better be huge and include badges or I am gone please thumbs up if u agree
nova sierra
@dawn nexus nice reddit post, covers most of the things myself and many others have been saying for months now. Unfortunately as you say in the post very few of the improvements suggested have an immediate front end monetary value so I doubt they'll listen.
robust helm
@dawn nexus That was a great summary of all the issues we all face... we hope they use it... and improve the game
nova sierra
We've been telling them this 💩 for months (over a year in some cases), we need more than just hope at this point
robust helm
Well at least now that the mods are also suggesting the same in a better manner... I guess it might be helpful
nova sierra
Not a surprise that the link to the reddit post has been removed
nova sierra
@dawn nexus nice reddit post, covers most of the things myself and many others have been saying for months now. Unfortunately as you say in the post very few of the improvements suggested have an immediate front end monetary value so I doubt they'll listen.
@nova sierra
There are huge portions of servers I'm involved in ready to boycott and stop spending if they don't start listening. That's the only way change will be made.
@robust helm watch my post above disappear pretty quick.
robust helm
The game now has a hotwheels ship added
nova sierra
Unbelievable...censoring your own moderators...that's low even for scopely
stray geyser
Seriously, when will the numerous issues that have plagued this game for months be addressed?
nova sierra
Apparently never...they don't even want to be told they exist
stray geyser
Well stuff it, no fixes, no cash.
nova sierra
Almost lvl39 and also almost completely done with this game tbh...
floral yacht
I keep losing ship because of the game keep freezing, or the game restart it all ways happen when going in to sector of the game it keeps going on I keep losing ships when I go back on my ship is destroy I am getting fed up with this when doing mission etc
lost crypt
Sighs, update “fixes” mission planet no target, now they can die, thanks to “player feedback “
nova sierra
@nova sierra yeah the next "we're sorry your shield failed, here's 6 million parsteel and another broken shield" reply posted in server 37 discord is going to be the trigger that causes them to lose any cash flow from basically 80% of anyone level 25 and up.
We want to raid due to incompetence, not due to glitch!!!
nova sierra
More content 😪😪🥱 why bother
nova sierra
That's it. No more spending on this game
quartz inlet
Why the heck are there hijacked bps in the EPIC armada boxes?!?!?! That makes no sense! 🤬
fresh zenith
Sounds like another money making scam from scopely to me! Build, upgrade then scrap to progress??? What stupidity is that??? If you had an enterprise, you wouldn’t scrap it to start with a realta again!!!! Not enough time to do everything as it is!!!! Are scopely gonna start prescribing Prozac free as part of playing the game??? Bull💩😤🐵
slim cypress
When are you going to include an in-house Alliance trading system for parts and materials.
analog dagger
Was ANY of this actually tested this time? Or will we be the testees as per the usual ???
ripe jetty
what a sensless question haha
manic elm
Hello. I have a question. The second part of the season will be launched with augments. Last season, when moving to another level, the gifts in the season did not change although who was originally above the level of prizes were different. Is it planned to change the prizes for reaching the levels this season, taking into account the level of the player himself?
last nest
Good lord you guys want to divert people progressing every update stop giving us these side ships
atomic nimbus
@frigid jolt you can be rude and type in caps on the q&a chat room but I am very, very upset with scopley. I agree, my question didn't pertain to the arc but come on bro...show some respect to your fellow players.
I am free to play. When I say that, I have probably invested 150 - 200 dollars in the game for the premium packs and in the northstar and in a couple of mission packs here and there. But still majorly f2p. So tell me, how is this new arc fair to us f2p players? I started playing this game in July 2019 and play nearly 3 - 4 hours a day. Constantly grinding, planning when to upgrade so as to coincide with event rewards, etc etc.
I watch the content creators videos, I listen to dj's podcast, so I know how important various things like research, etc are.
When the first born arc released, i was around lvl 22. Then we were told that to get the vidar we needed to be a lvl 25. Ok..no problem..i played the game even more. Rushed some things so as to reach my target faster.
Obviously there was a lot of research left over which I had to complete, which I'm just about finishing. Im a lvl 26 now.
Now, we get told that listen, if you want a new ship get to lvl 28. How is that even fair??? F2p players like me (and I'm sure they're many more who are upset) now have to rush again to lvl 28. Keep in mind that rushing 2 levels without adequate research screws me over because players who are big and powerful swoop down and hit your station.
Sure I understand that scopley gives you 24 hour shields and all and I use that!! I have been completing my dailies everyday for the last 1 year. I have a ton of rss and materials and speed ups but this is so, so unfair!!
I understand that you may not be able to do anything about it but since you are a moderator, maybe you can out in a word for us f2p guys.
robust helm
@atomic nimbus I guess they wanted to cater to the other F2Ps who are at levels between 26-32... so basically their intention is that your rush
atomic nimbus
@robust helm I think you're right. But its just so unfair.
fresh zenith
Would be nice to see an update that was open to all level players with graduated rewards appropriate to your level so that EVERYBODY can take part. So many lower level players I have seen quit because of this minimum level requirements but I guess if they opened it to all levels, it would not create the massive initial cash injections these things create and we couldn’t have scopely on beans on toast for a few weeks could we🤔😤
analog dagger
Caught up via the posts....I see we have to build another special ship we have to use for the "special" targets?? Hmm....you already have the crappiest refinery known to man bestowed on us...and I'm super duper sure this ship is going to need some of the awesomely abundant UNC rss we have laying around right? And we get to build it over and over....scrap over and over? Does that even remotely make sense? Players lower than 28....be glad you are! Anything extra you think you might be getting via the arc rewards will be spent building a side show Bob ship
last nest
Exactly its always just diversion ships that slow down the already Garbage progression in the game
atomic nimbus
I've become so frustrated with this game over the past few months
analog dagger
sudden wing
I also have used lots of speed ups, resources etc to get to level 28 which I spent long time saving, I feel scopley is more about making money instead of actual game because your making it that players need to spend money ie buy ships for certain events, AdmiralNeo has mentioned too I’m in total agreement with him, also you need to fix the bugs as I’m constantly getting kicked out of game having to restart and it’s normally when I’m in Klingon space and I’m an enemy so buy time I’m loaded back in Klingon fighter has killed my ship that’s 5 hours to fix my ship. Also suggestion scopley add a delete option for messages so many people myself included write a message and put it on Galaxy chat by mistake often it’s coordinates instead of alliance chat so to delete option would be much appreciated by all gamers thanks
analog dagger
Look what got removed!!! No more independent credits!!!!
narrow talon
New rogue update, updated iOS client play the game for 5 min -> crash. Good job 😉 so crashes as usual
austere reef
@analog dagger Event Shop!
errant smelt
Every update now more and more players mention the game is not fun anymore and they want to quit. Stop claiming bugs are normal and do your job right for a change.
Obviously not a personal remark towards the community manager who is not a developer. 🙂
slim cypress
The new update again built for the higher players. 1m+ Hostiles and levels that are unachievable. POOR effort Scopely and very one sided.
latent valley
Constant game crashes
🙈
The new update again built for the higher players. 1m+ Hostiles and levels that are unachievable. POOR effort Scopely and very one sided.
@slim cypress
These hostiles are weak. Even the 6m ones can be farmed with a 1m ship
slim cypress
@latent valley Yeah for the 10% who have a 1m ship. You've just proven my point really.
atomic nimbus
I also have used lots of speed ups, resources etc to get to level 28 which I spent long time saving, I feel scopley is more about making money instead of actual game because your making it that players need to spend money ie buy ships for certain events, AdmiralNeo has mentioned too I’m in total agreement with him, also you need to fix the bugs as I’m constantly getting kicked out of game having to restart and it’s normally when I’m in Klingon space and I’m an enemy so buy time I’m loaded back in Klingon fighter has killed my ship that’s 5 hours to fix my ship. Also suggestion scopley add a delete option for messages so many people myself included write a message and put it on Galaxy chat by mistake often it’s coordinates instead of alliance chat so to delete option would be much appreciated by all gamers thanks
@sudden wing for sure man. Look, at the end of the day they are a business and the aim of all businesses is to make a profit; but its heart breaking when they're openly doing it.
You know what would have been really cool? Since the lockdowns have begun world over a lot of us have lost our jobs. Those who haven't are getting significantly lower salaries. It would have been really cool if scopley had realised this and given us all something cool for free. They could have given the entire community a free borg jayla or a free borg kras or a free premium reward token. Imagine the goodwill they would have generated. And since the entire community would have gotten it, they're wouldn't be anyone saying that it was unfair.
Honestly, people would rather save those 20 dollars than spend it on a game.
latent valley
@latent valley Yeah for the 10% who have a 1m ship. You've just proven my point really.
@slim cypress
Have you tryed to fight those npc?
Whats your strongest ship and how strong is it?
glass hamlet
@latent valley Yeah for the 10% who have a 1m ship. You've just proven my point really.
@slim cypress 10%, really? I would say at least 50% have a 1m ship at this point
nova sierra
Kinda depends on your server
hallow shadow
Well done, u might fixed the connection button, but bugged the connection! 🙈🙈🙈 Well well well, monkeys at work?
modest lance
I can be rude - or I can be kind. However, when I have paid money, I believe I am entitled to my say. Does Scopely actually perform testing on this software before releasing? Don't give me the "of course we do", because if that is the case - there is something wrong in the company. In my eyes, there is a clear network latency bug in this software. You will have central game engine per server. Something - somewhere is clearly broken in that messages are so delayed it provides misleading UI information. However, you should be able to see this yourselves if you have tested this stuff. Come on Scopely, sort it out, and stop behaving like muppets.
noble heart
Game broken.
slim cypress
@glass hamlet Yeah 10%, our Alliance is the second biggest and only 1 out of 72 has a 1m+ ship. Its a ridiculous update but all for the big players scopely.
latent valley
Ur server seems to be quite new 👀
glass hamlet
@slim cypress you must be on a new server
grim sun
The removal of the “hide” mechanic goes against Star Trek lore, space strategy, simple physics, and so much more. Letting the whales dictate what happens in this game will cost Scopely way lore than what they think they gain from this change. This type of bending to the will of a few will cost way more.
Multiple episodes and movies shows ships hiding in asteroid belts, behind planets, in gas rings, etc etc. pay attention to the actually reality and not the big spenders
nova sierra
Kirk and company tooling around the galaxy splatting miners and robbing folk blind isn't star trek lore either but here we are...trying to apply lore to scopely's get rich quick scheme is a recipe for madness
pulsar lance
I have "lost" internet connection three times on my phone in the span of about an hour after this latest update. I'm sitting right next to my router and my computer's connection is fine. Is there some connection issue with the update?
ripe pebble
I'm very disappointed in the dev's decision to remove the ability of ships to hide behind large objects in space. It was the one bastion of strategy in an otherwise very 2 dimensional "strategy" game that offered ANY respite from whales that just want to be jerks. Never mind that in the movies/tv series that ships hide behind various objects in space. Scopely has seemingly decided to side with the biggest spenders who don't care about strategy, they've paid their sometimes obscene amounts of money and they want to kill who they want to, when they want to without any regard for skill or tactics or strategy. They've paid their dues, they're entitled after all. The game is quite frankly a chore and this change makes it MORE of a chore. Why am I not allowed to have a safe haven at the end of my 10-15 minute warp where I won't instantly be obliterated by whatever big player happens to be at my destination if I get distracted and decide to try and do something in RL while my ship transits. The ship was targetable before it got to the haven when it entered the system after all, it's not like it's invincible if I send it to a mission planet.
This was the ONE terrain feature in the game and now it's been removed. Space is filled with plenty of features (planets, moons, stars, nebulae, black holes, asteroids etc), you can even see them on the system maps. Hiding was the ONLY way to interact with them and from a physics standpoint, doesn't it MAKE SENSE that you should be able to hide behind large objects in space or in a nebula or behind a black hole? This game is now significantly less immersive than it was 24 hrs ago as there are now fewer strategy options for players to use in mitigating players who want nothing more than spending large sums of money for the apparent "right" to grief other players. Why are casual players now victims of the bullies 100% of the time instead of just 75% of the time?
cobalt gust
i dissagree, it removed the greifer hiding place
ripe pebble
the griefers on my server don't hide
so you disagree because they can't hide anymore, do you disagree that it also makes sense to be able to use celectial bodies for strategic advantage?
cobalt gust
only works for a time. even in the show.
ripe pebble
anyway, this isn't a discussion thread, it's a feedback thread...I've given mine.
cobalt gust
this is not the best but is an improvment as the griefers that hit and then run to a planet are no longer immune
ripe pebble
they are targetable while the are en route to the planet
you can even target them while your ship is at warp and click attack when you get there
cobalt gust
not everyone is so lucky as to be able to click/tap that fast
ripe pebble
it's really not a good place to hide for the griefers
steady tendon
Not to mention there shouldn’t be 13-24 min travel times in a freakin mobile game
river canyon
Ultra Recruit, app stole 4000 points from me. How do I report it?
glass hamlet
@river canyon define stole
if you clicked the button, and it took 4000 points but didn't show any officers, you almost certainly got the officer shards, just didn't get to see them
river canyon
I pressed the button it froze to a dark screen and locked up. It did not show any officers
glass hamlet
yeah, so like i said, you almost certainly got the shards
river canyon
Ok thank you
glass hamlet
unfortunately unless you knew exactly how many of each shard you had previously, you'll have no way of knowing which shards you got
river canyon
That was my dilemma
visual agate
@river canyon contsct support. they will tell you exactly what shardd you got
outer blade
@delicate sentinel game crashes /reboots all the time now. I've had at least 20-30 reboots within 2 hours this morning!
nova sierra
If you have transporter patterns check those...usually easier to keep track of
kind moss
C'mon for the love of GOD fix the glitches...we pay enough $ into this game for things to WORK.
nova sierra
Pay store still works...Literally never seen it break...
Proves they can write functional code...when it suits them
abstract oyster
Ok take away the planet hiding mechanism but the node one? It is a one time hide if you are mining so it takes 2 ships to do it then once you move the hovering ship that's it. Move or be destroyed. There has to be a balance. Please restore one of the 2 options
cobalt gust
you could kill the miner even with a ship ontop
polar cosmos
@meager shuttleopely-Design if the new ship Stella was named after Muds wife ... if hope the design wasn’t after her looks ... cos that’s one ugly ship ... it’s a mixture between Shrek and a ricer with massive wings lol!!! What were you thinking !!!
hybrid linden
@polar cosmos In TOS, Stella was butt ugly as well. Of course some of you may have never seen TOS.
abstract oyster
I'm aware but it would limit the amount of grieving
hollow pike
If you want to PvP , then don’t hide on planets or under mines. This is a welcome fix.
nova sierra
Found a dev on our server today, gave him some direct customer feedback
If you're not sure how to spot a dev the 600k ent at ops41 is impossibly weak for his level. You literally can't build one that weak if you've played normally.
frigid jolt
Or just a whale who has no idea how to play the game strategically and just spends $$
nova sierra
Point is to get to 41 normally he'd have to upgrade buff buildings etc...at 600k he's got zero research or buff buildings...
hallow pumice
Poled my discord
nova sierra
He wasn't on our server yesterday yet got to 41 and respected with at least rom and fed in a day? Nope no way
hallow pumice
Does he have goodies to raid? @nova sierra
quick coral
Better way to tell is to look at player stats
nova sierra
@hallow pumice nope, emptied his generators last night and again just now...500k par both times
quick coral
Example... impossible to be level 40 and have a power of 50k
nova sierra
Also a dead giveaway he's a dev
hallow pumice
Lol the devs should slam a bunch of rss into those bases
nova sierra
hallow pumice
Community dev raid events, have a high level base and open it up to the community
pallid cloak
@ripe pebble Agreed. This so-called "fix" to ships anchoring to a mission planet is largely a defensive method against "idle ship" attacks on Server 14.
Congratulations Devs, you just legitimized griefing tactics in this already hostile open environment. I couldn't be more disappointed.
nova sierra
Those stats yet has enterprise and augur...dev dev dev dev
hallow pumice
It's guaranteed because you need to upgrade defense platforms to certain levels and those give way to much power, one defense platforms at my level give more power than he has in total
nova sierra
Yeah this guy is 2.7mil...should be at least 20mil at his lvl
lost crypt
F2pBADGES
glass hamlet
i have to say, while it sucks that the event launch is delayed, i think that delaying it to resolve some of the other issues this patch had created is actually a good thing 
fervent goblet
Then you will be waiting a long long while
glass hamlet
i did say "some" @fervent goblet 😛
nova sierra
Is this because I killed your dev?...I'm not even sorry
cobalt mango
Things not touched in the update: the refining rate bottleneck to progression that isn't even slightly practical to spend your way around (there's no practical way to target 550 uncommon ore on demand, for example, other than to grind for several days)
last nest
months
lean crypt
yea thanks for taking away parking on planets. making them even more useless than before. now the big players can completely lock me out of mission sectors and dailies. oh and the nodes too. great. now the ehitters get an extra advantage. not spending any more money on this crap. what's the point now
graceful berry
not spending any more money on this crap. what's the point now
@lean crypt
What was the point ever, it's been a cluster of a game since launch
lean crypt
it's made even more apparent they only care about getting us mad enough at each other to spend more money. every strategy you use to defend gets taken away. done with it
quick coral
Keep in mind. This game is billed as a pvp game.
lean crypt
yea I know and I do pvp. but theres no balance
leaden lintel
I'm glad you can't park on a planet anymore. I always thought that was a bug that you couldn't targetvthise ships. If you want tour ship safe, put it in you base and raise a shield!
quick coral
I am mostly indifferent about it. I used it, won't lie, but it will not break my gameplay not having it.
lean crypt
theres no skill based pvp it's just wallet based. you can get snarky with me all you want but you know it's true. Think about it logically for a second why wouldn't you be able to evade on to a planet
quick coral
Oh, pvp range needs desperately to be reassessed.
As ops 30, I should not be able to hit ops 22.
lean crypt
the range isn't the issue. shield up no issues. big player comes. run or hide on a planet
now its just run. go back to base. do nothing. thanks great gameplay
I'm mad af
quick coral
So, there is no problem with a player that has g4 ships hitting a player that only has ops 28 ships? That is fair?
lean crypt
theres is a problem but if they did that then the biggest wallets can only attack maybe two people in the whole server
high igloo
No one should be able to 1 hit crack a base
last nest
In this game yes thats fine you feed the rich its like real life
high igloo
#cApItAlIsM
quick coral
@last nest by that logic, why is there a limit to who can be hit? Why not let an ops 50 hit an ops 15?
last nest
They wouldnt have anyone playing
quick coral
As it stands, people are quitting because of this issue
last nest
Well they are still profiting because the current people think the will be able to progress
lean crypt
yep. I was hanging on by a thread
buying battle passes and using my strategy to get things done but now they've empowered the jerks and the empty miner hitters. I'm done
last nest
all those people that are around 14-28 havnt hit the obvious wall of 30+
lean crypt
I'm 33
last nest
I believe level 50s can hit 32s
lean crypt
they sure can
quick coral
I know 46 can hit 30...
lean crypt
it's not skill based pvp
last nest
Nope this isn't a game with people with "skill"
quick coral
But, just because a company can make money on a system does not make the system good. Reducing pvp range would probably improve enjoyment of the game for more people. Happy people would probably result in more spending.
last nest
Even if they fixed pvp range game would die out from how bad progressing is
Takes me 5 months for 1 ship part upgrade
lean crypt
"content"
nova bear
As a makeup gift for today’s debacle give us some badges!!!
nova sierra
For PvP levels... 5 up, 5 down would be better
fallen glen
Server I am on the big players are blocking us from experiencing the new content by blowing up our ships in the new systems. Great game you got here 👍😂
sharp sedge
@fallen glen That’s BS
last nest
@nova bear i love your enthusiasm with badge pushing :😂
fallen glen
BS that i posted it or that it’s happening?
Cause it sucks that the money spenders gets to determine what us poor fold get to do in the game with the new content.
last nest
Someone will say "the spenders keep the game alive i bet" or something arbitrary
fallen glen
Well regardless, being limited to what you can do by the people who pay lots of money sucks. With this latest round of BS I wish what little money I did spend I could unspend.
quick coral
@last nest yes, the wallet warriors keep the game alive. But the rest of us actually give them a reason to keep paying. Without the rest of us, there would probably only be enough people playing to fill 1, maybe 2 servers. So us f2p or mostly f2p people are important too.
lean crypt
definitely not buying anything ever again
nova bear
@fallen glen load up with quick ships if they r big u be fast
@last nest we all need to join in and get more badges
fallen glen
Yeah, I’m done with the game now so thanks for the advice.
nova bear
At least your server has the new stuff we don’t have anything yet just the new place
fallen glen
We haven’t got any missions just the systems with ships and the rich bastards are camping and blowing us up just for being there trying to grind
When the missions pop up it will be worse and they will camp all the missions spots to blow us up before we can complete them.
nova sierra
Just hide at the mission pla...oh
quick coral
Sounds familiar....
nova bear
That happens on every server just bring your fastest ship with klaa or the creeper on it to move faster than their ships
Most 4* ships r slow and only the d4 is fast at the 3* lv
But let’s get back on message we need badges
spark vale
Dear Scopely, you have succeeded in changing a behavior that has been there from the beginning .. the mission planet safety net. Everyone in the galaxy was using it to safely wait their turn to mine, knowing they could mine when they wanted to and not get killed. The only safe place to hide now is under my shield. Are you seriously going to say that this helps anyone but those that whined to you they did not like that they can't hit thos of us that don't like being hit? There is no balance. Some may even declare this a not fun experience anymore because of this one catering change to the VIP players that arguably foot the bill, but IMHO have no business dictating what fun is like. This new reality is not fun. It is downright draining to even think about. Please reconsider the mission planet part of this change if not the whole change. It is NOT benifiting everyone.
<@&509691205798592532> You know I call on you very seldom. I call on you now.
onyx dock
Rather than objecting to a fix that resolved unintended behavior which lead to people being able to abuse this invincible-state in various situations - I would rather forward a suggestion that would specifically solve the situation you describe in a way that's fair and fun without the setbacks of the aforementioned.
Btw unsure if you got my message a while ago, but directives are now listed in the rare pack following your message here.
spark vale
I did note that got fixed less than a day after I made my original comments here on that. thank you.
You cannot have a game lasting 2 years with an accepted behavior of invincible once landing on a mission planet be reverted without some upset players. Suggesting that I tell you what an alternative should be is like asking me what Scopely should do. I would have much preferred scopely fix the battle stuck bug, or any other litany of issues that have plagued users for ages, than "correct" a behavior that has been relied upon by many from the beginning of the game.
There are players in our galaxy that like nothing better to do than to blow up ships and we have become accustomed to landing on a mission planet, and then completing a nearby mission when attention dictates. Now i have to stay focused for 15min flight times to go to do missions and if I waver a moment upon arrival (no chance of real life issues getting in the way, nobody has real life, only this game, right???) blamo blow up and try again or give up get frustrated and go elsewhere for fun. How can we balance the gameplay? Well, guess we can't, we simply let the whales blow up the servers and our fun with it. Yay. working as intended, right into the grave.
shut veldt
I understand the node situation, but the mission planet was always around that gave equal protection for all. Good or bad it did not provide an imbalance.
last nest
the only reason people request server merges is because they've made majority of their players quit with this behavior also
I dont care much because our server isn't as toxic but it should be acknowledged
fallen glen
I put 16months into this game and the server just kept getting more and more toxic and nothing done to stop it. I’m betting that there will be a lot more leaving the server with me.
shut veldt
Now, not being able to target and attack, the fake warping animation, the longer than normal battle simulations, the no base attack notifications, the bad refinery rates that do not improve no matter if you are a level 30 or 39, even though you spend alot of materials to upgrade it, the poor pm system, the high price of packs, etc... Many other items that can be fixed that do have a negative outcome on game play than the mission planet hideaway.
last nest
Game is becoming way too much interactivity its supposed to be a mobile game not a job.
undone mist
You cannot have a game lasting 2 years with an accepted behavior of invincible once landing on a mission planet be reverted without some upset players. Suggesting that I tell you what an alternative should be is like asking me what Scopely should do. I would have much preferred scopely fix the battle stuck bug, or any other litany of issues that have plagued users for ages, than "correct" a behavior that has been relied upon by many from the beginning of the game.
@spark vale he's absolutely right imho, this is a bad bad move. I've played since it started and as buggy as it has been, I've played and run a couple teams on server 16. After this news. I quit, Eve Echoes kills this
Game is becoming way too much interactivity its supposed to be a mobile game not a job.
@last nest yeah, it's turned into a job for me, and it was supposed to be PTSD therapy.
candid cloak
Sup ops
sonic valve
Im with @spark vale on this. Been working fine in its "bugged" state. Its an option for those of lower level to be able to mine vs people who are 10 levels higher or more than them. If you cant actually stop from being hit at least you can have another miner nearby to keep mining after they leave. We have 1 guy on our server that just hits miners for no reason other than they can. A lvl 33 isnt much of a whale but sure hurts the gameplay for lvl 23s that cant do much to stop them other than lose a mine and never get it back now. So it doesnt take much to make newer players feel unwelcomed and they wont spend money on a game they feel unwelcomed on.
light wren
Yeah I just don’t like that I can’t chill on a mission planet so I don’t have to worry about warping for like 16 mins somewhere
steady tendon
Faction lock wasn’t an intended feature either, yet it was reverted back to its “unintended” state because players had it for so long. This seems like it would apply to this situation as well.
light wren
Also u could park ur ships on a planet instead of ur base so if someone whacks ur base ur ships don’t have to repair
Gonna make active playing annoying especially what am I gonna do when I’m warping everywhere? Put a timer on to make sure some whale doesn’t blow us up
I am a paying player too
lunar crown
If it's a bug that's been around for a year, and players use it and enjoy using it.... it's no longer a bug, it's a feature.
sonic valve
Certainly more reasons to keep hiding than to remove it, thats for sure. Keep the option to see whos on a planet so that snipers can be seen and then the only reason i have heard to not allow hiding is nullified because you know they are there.
light wren
Wonder who the “many players who were frustrated” were
covert cypress
Funny enough I love the new update. The biggest alliance declared war on us and is hiding their 3k $ entys and similar ships on nodes to protect their miners. There is no chance In getting to them because you will definitely lose your ship. So they no longer being able to protect their ships with their wallet finally means a chance of fighting people above 40 for us...
last nest
Lol pay only missions
light wren
Oh I didn’t know that if they had a battleship on the node they could do that
I was able to blow their miners up anyways unless they were actually watching their miner mine
Which is ridiculous
covert cypress
Those guys are always ingame, so once the miner is infight they locate the battleship above it and blow you out of the water as soon as you are outfight...and since they have 5 docks they got more than enough ships to do so
undone mist
Faction lock wasn’t an intended feature either, yet it was reverted back to its “unintended” state because players had it for so long. This seems like it would apply to this situation as well.
@steady tendon yes!
If it's a bug that's been around for a year, and players use it and enjoy using it.... it's no longer a bug, it's a feature.
@lunar crown exactly
light wren
Oh well maybe my whales kinda are lazy lol
undone mist
Looks like server 16 is here in force
light wren
I blowbthem upball the time
frail geyser
Seriously after opening up research you drop a research event 4.5 hrs later i swear this is the poorest run p2p game ever
light wren
Well the game is down for me, for some reason I am now a lvl 2 on a new server today
light wren
So might need some friendlies to come raid me if my 12 hour shield goes down
undone mist
How? What?
fallen glen
Being lvl 37 and getting your ass blown up by the lvl 41’s cause they can keep you from enjoying the new content sucks. My tier 6 Brel vs their 3.5mil or higher jelly’s or whatever other big frikkin ship they want to camp you with so you can’t do the new content
light wren
iOS update has made some players accounts not login to Game Center
I’m sure they will fix it frankie but might be awhile lol
Anyways sorry the tangent
frail geyser
The bigger question is why are whales camping u?
light wren
Cause they can I guess
fallen glen
Because they don’t want others doing the new content. They are simply being assholes and keeping others from getting anywhere.
sonic valve
@covert cypress but they can still doublestack their ships on a node now. You can just target the battleships now too, but if you couldn't kill the battlship before in a def win, doubt an off attempt would go any better. So not sure how in your scenario, this is better. You still wont be able to kill their miners
undone mist
Whales on server 16 camp everybody
They are more than twice as strong as the number two team
They screw with all of the server
Server 16 is ran by the whales.
And having that hiding option was paramount to continuous gameplay
frail geyser
Ehh i huess I don’t get it. Hell I retired 40’s at 37
undone mist
My team also is a training team. Drkt, not Sosa.
So we need to change curriculum now too
covert cypress
@sonic valve I can call another friendly whale to remove that ship...and since they know that they won’t put it there in the first place 🙂
sonic valve
Ah seemed like they were all too big for you, the way you described it
fallen glen
Good for you, I can’t even touch the level 40+players
undone mist
Lots of level 49s
light wren
Whales
frank ingot
@delicate sentinel devs need to do something about that background hiding stations
sonic valve
Oh Man! I just figured it out. I Know why scopley made the change. It will push a bunch of people into making secondary accts to help hold their mines, thus making their active account numbers increase. Now its making sense
frail geyser
Seems stupid to run off the people who keep your game alive
undone mist
Seems stupid to run off the people who keep your game alive
@frail geyser yep! I've put decent amounts of money into this game, it's rediculous now
Seriously. When eve echoes comes out, stfc is going on the backburner
This is the straw that broke the camel's back, it needs to be returned to its previous state as was the faction lock
While you guys are fixing things that don't need to be fixed, why don't you turn the chat filter all the way up, that way all we can say in game is "hi"
Make everything else profanity. Like Con, and Walter, and Pal.. buddy
woven flare
Well what a farce that is. The events for outlaws just been added onto server 131 and an event shows research. I did a load of the outlaw research when the update came out. So now I lost out on those points for the tiers 😡 @delicate sentinel
undone mist
That's pretty screwed up
fallen glen
That’s damn sick and twisted of them. You should get credit for it anyway.
It’s not your fault they waited on it and then you built it up.
lapis gorge
Can we PLEASE get the data nodes fixed? The incredibly low amount they hold is ridiculous. Can you please put them back to where they were?
undone mist
That is really annoying too, the data nodes
But the mission planet/node thing is really really bad.
lapis gorge
10 seconds for each reset is stupid!
nova bear
Half way through all the research will scopely be giving me credit for all of this when they actually fix this
fallen glen
Half way through all the research will scopely be giving me credit for all of this when they actually fix this
@nova bear I think they should give you credit for it when they post the event regarding the research. It’s not your fault THEY didn’t post it at the same time as that tree appeared. I’m guessing whatever excuse they are making up is BS so that people WOULD burn thru that tree and then be screwed when they finally posted the event.
undone mist
Of course they won't give you a thing
If you message them they will say "well it wouldn't be fair to other players"
That's happened to me before
fallen glen
My point of view is scopely manipulated the whole thing knowing people would do the research right away if the event wasn’t posted so those same people would have to spend money when they finally post it. It was planned by them.
Planned by scopely
undone mist
My point of view is scopely manipulated the whole thing knowing people would do the research right away if the event wasn’t posted so those same people would have to spend money when they finally post it. It was planned by them.
@fallen glen yeah, that's their MO
fair zealot
The supposed fix on mission planet/node thing is bad. Try doing a mass raid now. Ships tend to pile on base during raids and now when you select the base you select a ship instead. And its a pain to have to scroll through left and right to select the base to attack. Bad!
undone mist
That's why the company is worth so much right now
fallen glen
They won’t get any more rich off of me 😂
undone mist
Me either
I'm playing the eve echoes beya
And it kills STFC anyway
And the devs LISTEN to us
fallen glen
Good for you👍
lunar crown
Ugh... just found a new annoying issue with the mines. ....
If someone is hiding under your mine and you go to rotate a miner, you now have to scroll through to the mine, else, the hiding ship will be selected, and you'll automatically attack it, if you're used to just clicking off the mine and clicking back on it.... you have to scroll over now. ANNOYING!
fallen glen
I have shit tons of tabletop rpg’s I can run and play that have been gathering dust since I started this crap game
undone mist
This game isn't what I thought it would be, yet here I am still playing it almost 2 years later
Yeah Voyt, that's a freaking issue too
nova bear
@undone mist is that an app based game it looks good
undone mist
Yeah it's mobile
iOS and android
It's the mobile version of EVE Online
It's in release preview beta right now, launching in august
And it's insanely good lol
spark vale
just a few clips pasted together .. this is live in the beta now ..
fallen glen
They finally put up the events, yup, scopely manipulates the whole thing so people would do research before the event started.
nova sierra
SCOPELY. Do the right thing and make things right for people who researched early, not being mind readers.
fallen glen
SCOPELY. Do the right thing and make things right for people who researched early, not being mind readers.
@nova sierra here here
They won’t, to them lies and manipulation is 2nd nature.
tough stratus
@nova sierra Agreed!! I did 13 points worth of research that I want awarded!!
nova sierra
Every update and new event is more and more amateurish.
last nest
that game looks good
nova sierra
Pretty game. Pretty crappy way to treat your customers.
undone mist
@last nest you have no clue lol, it's so much fun and more substantial
nova sierra
nova sierra
Done heaps of outlaw research no points allocated
twin dew
Every update and new event is more and more amateurish.
@nova sierra pretty pedestrian eh mate?
high igloo
The compensation package was alright. Not enough trit or dil, okay amount of steel, but the shields are much appreciated.
nova sierra
I haven’t seen anything. Are they effing this up too?
high igloo
Restart your game, it'll appear
nova sierra
I did. Resources be d*mned. Scopely screwed me out of event rewards. Where are they?!!!!!
slate jungle
The compo was rubbish. Didn’t even cover trit cost of my ship lost when the game crashed in hostile space.
nova sierra
Does this look like we’re happy?
Every update is chock full of bugs and glitches. Events can’t be rolled out properly. I’ve had problems with purchases taking up to a week. This is supposed to be a professional company.
Management should be ashamed. My experiences over the past few months have been abysmal. A•B•Y•S•M•A•L!!!
I got kicked out 8 times today no research rewards for outlaw crock
So those who didn’t research and didn’t get screwed get rewarded. Nice Scopely. Nice.
stark osprey
sorry for the inconvenience???? we have members being raided because they can't log in or lost their account. sorry doesn't cut it!!!!!
high igloo
and the rss in the compo pack doesn't help with that. This is bs
gusty crescent
Ok.. This new research tree is so stupid... I've spent all uncommon mats I had i didn't get to the stella research. I've spent more uncommons that i will get with the pack i bought. The worse part, with things that i don't want or need, like plutonium research or useless things for the bb. I already have my bb maxed. Scopely please create add-ons to the game that make people move forward, not sideways. After this event we will have another ship to take care and another system do grind, but everyone focus that is get stronger (with better ships) isn't being accomplished. When you require 2800 unc gas just to tier a ship, another 600 to upgrade a building, you have to provide more that you are giving today... Even if I buy one 100 dollars pack (which is a lot of money for the regular folks out there), its a drop in the bucket. I know that there are whales and they pay your bills, so help out the casual spender and the f2p out there, increasing the payout on the refinery, lowering the timer to 8hrs not 10 and so on.. everyone need uncommons and rares...
pallid cloak
Plea to stop upsetting the community with fixes to "unintended experiences" that "frustrated" only a toxic population of players.
river canyon
Why is there such a delay in using the Ferenga mining bonus credits? From what I have gotten there is nothing special about the prizes and I now have 7 of these things. What is that almost a month to collect them. Really not worth the effort to acquire them.
primal harbor
This is what I don't get someone 7 levels higher and 5 mil in power can hit me while I can not hit someone level 19 and half my power....
static grail
Is there any reason why they can’t answer help tickets on this iOS log in issue.... don’t they need my info to fix????
tender marsh
Why did i do research for no points? If u a doing a release of new material, do it all at once
sand python
Jokes on me, WiFi signal will always hang out
merry current
cobalt gust
your late to the party, its been commented on for the last oh month
the V'Dar Event should not have been capped at L26, it should have been for everyone who doesn't have 100 BP's and should repeat each month till you obtain the full set. Same with the Franklin
nova sierra
Not opc and not warning
cobalt gust
ROE is server specific, not valid for here, need to complain on your servers discord
@nova sierra
robust helm
just a few clips pasted together .. this is live in the beta now ..
@spark vale Which game is that?
Better game
@undone mist Name?
high igloo
I appreciate this
undone mist
Like the computer game but finally a mobile version
robust helm
Lets see how the mobile one is
tight hawk
You call this compensation? I've researched 37! projects that don't count for this event due to the bugs. Really???
cobalt gust
READ, the chest was for down time, not for research issues
frigid jolt
No talking/advertising about other games....
atomic nimbus
just a few clips pasted together .. this is live in the beta now ..
@spark vale you're beta testing it... nice!!!
No talking/advertising about other games....
@frigid jolt so this a rule, correct?
frigid jolt
Think logically,which company would like you talking about other games in their discord....
atomic nimbus
What about the rule which talks about no writing in capital letters?
frigid jolt
So what? That is also a rule?
atomic nimbus
Correct..so when you violate a rule, its OK? But when the community violates a rule, its inappropriate?
atomic nimbus
Nice!!
frigid jolt
Anyway we are talking stuff that isnt feedback in a feedback channel
Follow rules and give constructive feedback 🤷♂️
atomic nimbus
For sure bro.
If only scopley and you guys saw our constructive feedback and did something about it
atomic nimbus
Never said you were
frigid jolt
Devs read this place more than you think
atomic nimbus
But you are a moderator and hence can do something for the community
frigid jolt
Yeah sure let me go learn coding in a sec
atomic nimbus
Lol
frigid jolt
I am here to moderate channels according to rules. Yes we give feedback to Devs when needed but it is up to them listen or not at the end....
atomic nimbus
For sure man..and ofcourse the final verdict is at your discretion. So cool.
sharp axle
Scopely being really blatant here. If this prime only works for the crew shards, then it’s useless for anyone who’s played for more than a month...
To me, it should give twice the reward for items, 2x bps, 2x crew shards, 2x credits, otherwise how can the price be justified?
frigid jolt
No refund talks
sharp axle
It’s basically robbery
frigid jolt
@sharp axle only works for reputation stuff in aug store and it is clearly stated in description
Should have read it more carefully
sharp axle
It doesn’t work for anyone who’s ally. Ergo. It’s broken, it doesn’t work, and how can they justify charging that amount for it
frigid jolt
It does work......
sharp axle
It doesn’t work
frigid jolt
Not their problem if you already maxed reputation with Augment. Should have read the description better
sharp axle
Do people get retroactive crew shards? People can’t even get retroactive augment research’s you think scopely care about some shards
frigid jolt
What shards.... that research is for reputation
Read its description carefully (ss above)
sharp axle
Reputation bundles.... are the free crew shards you get at each rep rank
frigid jolt
No 🤦🏻♂️
sharp axle
A bundle would be an item from the store that costs reputation
frigid jolt
sharp axle
If it’s not those, then it’s even worse, scopely deliberately misleading description
It is robbery. Scopely saying, give us 99, and we give you something that will disappear in a month making the purchase worthless
Primes need to have a permanent bonus otherwise they are not primes
Ergo, prime refining
I mean... it costs g4 to open...... anyone who can refine g4 is maxed augment....
frigid jolt
Then dont buy. It is your choice
sharp axle
All it needs is enough people to say: OK ....byeeeeeeeeeeeee and perhaps scopely will understand that ripping off customers is not a good long term strategy
frigid jolt
Buying stuff without reading their description isnt a smart move either
sharp axle
Considering everything on the store is available based on your reputation.... the plutonium, the credits exchanges, it’s actually easily read as applying to all bundles available on the store... and scopely know this.
If it’s not that, then why charge a prime cost for it, the rogue rep equivalent looks like something you get for items through playing, and won’t be a prime
earnest basalt
Since the last update the game freezes and restarts often. Not nice if you have hunters
azure holly
👀
atomic nimbus
Considering everything on the store is available based on your reputation.... the plutonium, the credits exchanges, it’s actually easily read as applying to all bundles available on the store... and scopely know this.
@sharp axle mate, you're absolutely, 100% right. But batman is not gonna do anything about it. He'll just chalk it up to being your fault. There's no point in getting upset. Scopley is totally s******g us over. (I didn't swear batman..just censored it so as to not break your rules)
nova sierra
The hunt is not counting 😠😠😠😠
cinder garden
It's taken me months to get enough epic directives for an armada, and i can't find a bloody thing worth launching. I've seen one 33 epic since i started looking, and the 30s give useless amounts of credits. Increase the spawn rate / systems a bit?
nova sierra
It has been 24 hrs since I did the research ad it appears we are not going to be getting credit for our research. Or are we? Do tell.
nova sierra
Scopely you really are terrible! You removed the ability to hide on a mission planet, and I know you took the advice from DRGN in removing it. It doesn't enhance the game any further and allows lower players to hide and wait for a mining spot from those that would hit floaters! They don't mostly mine anyway and buy their rrs or raid them. Please put features back for mission planets. Think of the mission planet as a neutral ground and good for all.
Please put in more planets near mining systems as a feature enhancement to the game.
Work on resolving the bugs in the game before adding more features.
hazy lagoon
Scopley, can you please use the right ship models, I have a few missions where it says “ Vulcan Vahklas, and the model is of a USS Mayflower, please replace these wrong ship models with the right one. Thank You
slate magnet
The refinery output dropped again for days. No uncommon or rare material is coming out. Why?
polar jungle
The refinery output dropped again for days. No uncommon or rare material is coming out. Why?
@slate magnet because they want you to buy packs, it’s got nothing to do with gameplay or players, and everything to do with ripping as much coin out of your pocket as they humanly can!
raven mantle
I hate the change to ship stacking on mission planets. Now op whales can more efficiently kill level 30 players with their absurdly overpowered Enterprise even easier during game events! Without pvp banding this is so broken it’s heartless when you just get random ganked by some douche endlessly
cobalt gust
its a good change becuase people cant hide ships full of resources to get a jump on events.
the immunity was the problem.
raven mantle
That is absurd. Look at the current faction event, what reasonable advantage could sticking a few ships in fed space give beyond ten minutes? That is silly. As for other events, so what? Name the event your thinking of.
steady tendon
Anyone could do that so there was no advantage that gave anyone over anyone else.
cobalt gust
@raven mantle latinum mondays
mine full cargo, set on planet, immune till the event started, warp home and have a head start. Much different if you were attackable the whole time mining
i mean, how else did players get that kind of points on the leaderboard 5 min into the event
fervent goblet
You drop your cargo in terms of the mining event points scoring as soon as you step off of the node.
@cobalt gust ☝️
fervent goblet
People get a points head start by timing their mining preload to not go over protected before the event starts on multiple miners the step off of nodes or in the case of dark space at warp 120 just fill up and hope the whale “Union” doesn’t attack each other!
cobalt gust
true, but the net result was the immunity that was not intended. and from a gameplay and pvp perspective has major problems. Not the mention the griefing. It wont be changed unless they code it back in with some catch that doen't make it a permenent immunity
ie, a 30 min timer till your exposed
That way i can kill the griefer thats out hunting my miners
lapis gorge
A level 49 hitting a 33. Really? Come on, devs. That is not even sporting. Balance the PvP.
That, or you need to start letting me hit level 17s.
errant smelt
Glad to see some of my complaints will remain the same throughout the rest of my STFC career
The community just gets bigger once you reach 18+ since that's where most active players are, but for some reason they feel the need to increase the pvp range... Where the actual issue likely is confined to smaller servers and solved with server merges
nova sierra
Still looking at compensation for all the early research I did with no points allocated
cobalt gust
daring path
When the stackable ship on mission planets got "fixed" (there wasn't ANYTHING wrong with it), you guys messed up being able to click right next to bases to park our ships. Now we have to park our ship way to far from bases and it makes it difficult to defend a base raid. Again with your fixes, trying to fix one thing and end up making 2 things horrible
left charm
I'm having an issue with getting a ship that has been offered to others in my alliance but never to me. As it stands I am now too high of a lvl (by 1) to get it. I have asked support for help but no response.
lapis gorge
Again, please balance the PvP ranges. At least make the systems that are necessary for the content be PvE only.
that, or let me hit the level 20 players. This is the same thing.
fading wing
I wish there were 1000x times as a many systems in the game as there are. Imagine being able to explore a lonely corner of the galaxy extracting resources and fighting off hostiles, ocassionally bumping into other players and being able to work with (or fight) them.
nova sierra
Scopeky stop erasing chats and leave the conversations on the device itself! Not on your server! Sick and tire of them being erased!!
hazy lagoon
Scopley, increase the time for the Ops upgrade to be 1 week, I am at lvl 19 and need to get to 20, as well as get everything else to upgrade it, will never be able to finish the event since there is 5 and a half days left to upgrade it, alone upgrading Ops to lvl 20 take 6 days
torn wharf
Why after update the game are more laggy...??
robust helm
A level 49 hitting a 33. Really? Come on, devs. That is not even sporting. Balance the PvP.
That, or you need to start letting me hit level 17s.
@lapis gorge Wow... that must have lasted for 2 rounds or less....
limpid sluice
The new dynamics around bases and planets are not an improvement....you literally cannot park ships next to bases you are defending anymore, or anywhere close to bases or planets....the no hiding on mission planets fix I don’t mind, but this can’t be the only way to do it....this close to base, close to planet dynamic has really shifted how you attack and defend bases, and not in a way that has balance....
leaden lintel
I am glad they removed parking on planets. Too many bad guys would park a ship on a planet and just pick off miners and go back to sleep on a planet. Now they either have to travel to the system or be vulnerable just like the miners.
cerulean belfry
Hello @delicate sentinel
Would like to give my feedback regarding the new selection on ships and bases.
I’m trying to defend a base and I can’t, because I can’t select the space near. It’s impossible to place the ship close enough to be able to attack fast.
This must be the worse thing ever updated on this game. To attack or defend is horrible. Instead of selecting ships, it selects the bases.
The place where we click should be returned to the previous.
Taking the pleasure of making a good defense or attack with this little details is the last stand. If we can’t make pvp or defend with a certain amount of precision, what is the fun?
Thank you, have a good day 🖖
fervent goblet
@cerulean belfry I and many others have made exactly the same point. This has to be changed!
river canyon
Can’t you guys do something with the program and instead of calling we the players (Independent) call us Commander or Captain or something other than Independent? Even my television calls me by my name. Do you realize how stupid calling someone (Independent) sounds. Sometime you guys make it feel like we are playing a 1970’s Atari.
frigid jolt
🤔 they call us commanders most of the time in announcements. I am guessing you are talking about missions and in there they call us independent simply because we dont belong to any faction I think
lean crypt
Bring back planet parking
mossy tree
Почему не начисляют очки за улучшение модулей станции???
elfin ermine
This new mission planet fix broke other area of the game. I don't mind they fix the hiding mission planet but now I can't select any open space near a base/node. It auto select the base or node for you from mile away making it impossible to park a ship next to a base or node. Also if there are ships covering a base it really hard to select the base right now since it just randomly auto selecting stuff for you.
nova sierra
So, it’s been a while since Scopely said they’d make up the events points we lost by researching early. A bunch of us are WAY BEHIND everyone else because not only do we not get the goodies we earned, but we don’t have them to spend to continue research and unlock bps, which leads to fewer event points.
Are you actually going to do what you said you would? In 2020?
river turtle
What will be done about the reset fractionII chets for some people? Havin 9 Badges less then others seems very unfair!
nova sierra
Interesting compensation chest. Doesn’t help me with events I’ve now not gotten access to missions from. Used a lot of speed ups to do those missions, now I’m stuck, time for repairing, can’t get the missions done, don’t get help from the chest. wtf?
Regarding doing research early and missing chances for rewards and missions and blueprints from the event. Sad!
Screwed again. I should buy packs, is that what Scopely is trying to tell me? Screwed because I played the game while Scopely fumbled.
primal hamlet
The vidar reward event is a joke. Way to much mats to spend to get BP’s. Seems like during borg event 25’s could get vidar. Now like impossible and can’t just buy.
cobalt gust
@primal hamlet Multiple of us have voiced the same thing
though joke isn't the word im thinking of
high cosmos
I like the change that ships can't hide on planets and nodes any more. Please keep it. If you want to add an intended feature that adds something similar, fine, but there should be a counter measure as well.
nova sierra
If you want to defend a cracked base stick kla on the bridge of a realta or vidar and attack the base non-stop, you'll take a small amount of rss first hit but after that you're tying it up in combat so the looters can't engage. Have 1 or 2 mates pick off their confused surveys.
Most raid defence is a delaying tactic to buy the victim time to get on and shield. Keeping their base locked in combat denies the enemy that time.
glass horizon
The refinery is a joke atm, why have you turned it down so far !
Sick of getting zero unc on the crystal and gas.
covert cypress
27 crashes and 5 forced restarts because of targeting/placement issues in less than 3 hours. this has been going on for over half a year, FIX THIS PLEASE!
polar torrent
the "snap" to targets is way too wide now. you can't pick where you want to target during a raid or combat the target just bounces wherever. it's awful. especially in raiding because it's hard to select the base and the screen will move with the ship you accidentally targeted.
coral frost
Why are Hijacked and normal ship Blueprints not compatible, they are the same ships. Please do that.
nova sierra
They aren't...they require different components to upgrade
The hj ships are also accessible without the required reputation with it's faction equivalent
Plus they all suck so just skip them and save your credits...a vidar or kumari will work fine until you can build a lvl28 faction ship
visual agate
<@&509690795536941056>
The research "Outlaw Mechanic" reduces the base cost of a ship repair differently. Every other repair cost reduction in game, reduces a ship's base repair cost upto current tier/upgrades.
This new research only reduces cost equal to x% of a ship at tier 1 level1 and does not affect any upgrades/tiers the ship has. Given that all the other repair research work in a similar way, it wouldn't make sense that one should work differently. It only confuses the player as none of the research clarifies this distinction.
So i guess my question is, is it intentional? and if yes, why not let the playerbase know what a research does particularly one that works differently than all other similar researches but has same description?
cyan marsh
olive wraith
@delicate sentinel have you changed anything about the armadas? we had a total strength of 7mio and could not destroy a 12mio green armada. We were able to do that beforehand
nova sierra
Crew matters...if half your group turned up with pike moroue and chen you're screwed
olive wraith
we had khan or nero crew
cerulean belfry
Use epic Kirk cap - rare Spock - Decius /khan
@olive wraith
olive wraith
i will try.thx
coral frost
And why do i still getting 2* shipparts out of pvp chests of 28+ players..
midnight pilot
@coral frost cos pvp doesn't reward well
barren spade
<@&509690795536941056> scopelys ignorance just reached a new peak, 3 days since my account was locked due to the last update and all I get is an autoreply that I shall provide informatiom on my issue again. Excuses like covid and higher volume of tickets does not give you the right to ignore my issue for 3 days. Guess won’t help much, but at least other players may consider flushing more real money into this game.
midnight pilot
@pastel hazel you have 5 x dvors?
Lvl 30 is too soon can only be built at 27.. By removing it at 30 you are effectively limiting players progression till they've collected them all.
Gotta catch them all!!!
midnight pilot
So in fact store you can get 1 hij every day for 80 days... And armada chest can get 5, 3, 2 1 or full pull in each chest.
How many epics can you do in 80 days.
@pastel hazel and you have 5x dvors?
Why not...
People want 5x iss jellies why not 5x dvors
How much lat on lat Monday would 5 dvors do
@pastel hazel your saying to remove lower content yo improve your chances for better rewards,
So let's remove all the officers you've already maxed and not bother with transporter sharfs
But then when you have all officers you can't compete in events
Or remove all commons fr refinery, then when you nerd that 5th Dock you can't upgrade it, or any new builings
They do disappear at ops 38 so maybe that's your problem
Lvl to ops 38 then take your pulls no hij in pulls
Problem solved
No lvl your ops,
pastel hazel
And don't slippery slope my argument
midnight pilot
You shouldn't be pulling epics till iss jelly shows at 38, and rares has enterprise etc
Otherwise you take the chances of not getting what you want
But that's ty our choice risk it for a biscuit
Well if your on that path you risk it
Be realistic your asking them to remove content and not replace it.. That's never a good idea.
And anyway it changes slightly every even lvl.
Dvors are replaced by enterprise at 32
And horizons replaced by faction miners.
At 34
So really up to you to wait or just chance it
Badges are a 0.01% drop in epics
The percentages don't change if you add or remove content so you got same chances. If hij were removed the others still have same chancr
You'd just get 0 reward in place of hij
Anyway have fun
midnight pilot
Ah but new servers don't get dvor bp in 30 day chests.
Most are double or triple locked but not all.
So let's make this game only available to some players and block all the ones that are slow and impatient
Let's remove enterprises and make it pay only and while we are at it let's remove all faction ships from Armadas as they are in faction stores.
Now what's in armada chests.... 0
And let's remove all ships gained from armada boxes in the past. Let's remove iss jelly from 38 onwards and make it event only
Sorry you have to take the bad with the good.
Let's roll game back to Dec 2018 and gave months to tier a ship.
@pastel hazel shortsighted and ignorant and yours is a suggestion so put it in suggestions doh.
This is feedback
lunar hill
Been on this game since it was introduced and spent some fair coin to enjoy the Star Trek theme. I’m estimating I’ve lost $1,500 usd to the poor stability of this game since I started playing in late Oct, 2019. I’m all for paying for a solid game format, but this is not it. It’s been less than real Scopley. Will never play another game of yours.
nova sierra
Gaining armada experience is necessary with this arc. But, speed ups have become a lot more rare.
You’re killing us and making it hard to mine. Keep the regular amount of speed ups.
midnight pilot
Wait for your Stella like was Intended
Or suffer repairs
But you should be triple faction by now loads a speedups
cerulean quest
How about : a ferengi trade center or store ! You can trade in bp’s and other things like normale ore / gas / crystal for uncommens ( because the refenery doesn’t work well ) or you can buy packs from the ferengi . Also would be nice if we could then play a game with the ferengi , if we win the pack is half the price , if he wins it’s the full price , you can only gamble once a week . You can also creat your own pack for a price at your will . Anyway . A ferengi store / tradecentre next to the factions would be great . Since chests gives us lots of stuff we don’t need anymore . For example I can build a1000 envoys . Would love to trade them in for a couple of enterpise bp’s ! @delicate sentinel just think about it 😉
midnight pilot
@wooden nebula if you use Stella you get more loot
quick coral
So... let me get this straight. After watching the "Stella Reveal" video from Rev Deuce...
We need a new currency to buy a new currency... so that we can do an armada to get a new currency..... to be able to buy a new currency......... in order to upgrade the Stella?
Think you have enough convoluted steps in there? Oh, and don't forget the new OTHER currencies required to be able to do research and stuff..... there is what... 10(?!) new currencies just for this Rogue faction?
onyx dock
@quick coral Watch Nowon's, he goes through the tiering and scrapping process as well. It's not too complicated.
solemn coral
build upgrade scrap repeat
quick coral
@onyx dock thanks for pointing me to that vid. Add definitively 2 more currencies...... who came up with this? This seems like terrible game design.
Yeah, it is easy for Nowon to tier it. He was gifted thousands of each mat required
onyx dock
Sure thing. For insights on game design, check out the video with the developers behind it posted in #⭐-official-announcements
He was given mats to show one cycle and educate the community. I wouldn't shame him when he's clearly showing to help, even by intentionally failing armadas.
quick coral
Oh, it is not meant to shame him.
My point though, is that when you do not have all those mats readily on hand, it is going to take for fracking ever to tier this thing for the average player.
onyx dock
We'll have to see how this all works when we get our hands on it ^^
nova sierra
If you need to watch a tutorial video it's too damn complicated
quick coral
@nova sierra "complex" games needing tutorial videos can be a good thing. Look at the Dark Souls franchise or any of the Final Fantasy games. They are not simple. They are very complex games. There are many tutorial videos put out, and are considered to be great games. This update though is needlessly complex. It is adding complexity for complexities sake.
nova sierra
This is a mobile game to play on the toilet not The Witcher 3 lol
The only reason to make it this complicated is to force mistakes which in turn will drive revenue
It's not even subtle tbh
nova sierra
After using STFC on my iphone. I have to reboot my phone once or twice a day. My BT and performance degrades significantly. Of course, the app crashes a dozen times or so.
iphone XSMax, iOS 13.5.1
real flume
Where to find the mission Fading Obscurities?
midnight pilot
@real flume after Borg arc 4 and your alliance won a particular leader board event
muted swift
Release the floodgates for g3. 4(!)research trees, ships, base...progress is officially slower than dead snail
olive wraith
i have a question. if you have all bp's but don't have the reputation, can you still build the ship ??
quick coral
@olive wraith yes. You can build any ship, so long as you have the bps
olive wraith
thx. i thought so
sharp sedge
If you have the shipyard level too required
primal lake
Dailies used to take a fraction of the day. Now it's taking the whole damn day. If you guys want to keep customers, stop forcing us to grind shit all day. We have lives too. You keep adding content and making it a requirement. Lower the requirements or I'll stop playing. Can't spend my entire day just doing the bare minimums. I don't even have the freaking time to do missions!
elder hornet
I would also like to congratulate you on the worst log rhythm math ever used to generate materials from a refinery in any game I can think of. You can mine for endless days and still not produce enough refined gas, ore, or crystal to build a damn thing! Your greed is going to close this game down.
river turtle
please increase scout spawn rates.... currently 10min for 38s and 20 min for 39s. Needs to be 5/10 min or even lower.
nova sierra
this is yet again proof that they promise something and do not keep it. like our facebook profile and receive credits. Hundreds have done this but none have received these credits
sharp sedge
I got mine
river turtle
I got the 800 ultras from the FB like
quasi wren
OK this is a repeat from possibly Many players. Can you please increase the CR rates in the refinery. As it stands that is the MOST used material. need all 3 for research and station upgrades. Gas/Ore is heavy on ONE ship type each. CR is used on three typse of ships. After lvl 30 you have three different Mining ships which ALL 3 require CR. Need to triple or more the Payout on Cr to balance cost/supply/demands in the game.
Another thing Get rid of all the 2* junk from the Elite Monthly pack for anyone ops 28+. there is very little call for it and is easier to mine and refinery pays better on 2* at that lvl. Need 3* for everything by that lvl anyway. Yes you can build/max/scrap/repeat 2* ships for 3* material. Which I do. But at my ops really not wating to drop RL $ on 2*. And since I only have the Option of the $100.00 pack. Which makes no logic to me. I am very reluctant to purchase.
Speaking of Packs It really makes no Logic to reove the lower cost packs from players that spend a set $ milestone. That is 20/50/70 dollars of potentional revenue a month you are potentionally losing. There Have been many times I have not been able to afford the 100 pack but could of done the 50 pack. But it is no longer offered to me.
restive echo
@nova sierra i did receive the ultra tokens from fb fella
nova sierra
It sucks when you’re on the top of a burst LB for two hours then, several people are obviously buying packs and you disappear.
You can’t get a frame in this game unless you spend a bunch of money. How about the majority of players who don’t (maybe something about the really bad employment environment)?
vernal lotus
@quasi wren it's not a refinery it's a lotofinery no real refinery would run the way it does its doesn't even make sense to call it a refinery. If a process can not be refined to a constant after 30+ updates to the process and zero changes to the raw materials. There is no way to make it profitable.
narrow scarab
Getting rid of kahn and mara shards sucks I'm close to getting kahn I hope they return after the event
quasi wren
They are only out during event
Per Panics announcment
Ok @vernal lotus fine the Material slot machine then. It still needs adjusted
narrow scarab
I couldn't seem to find the announcement thanks bud
vernal lotus
@quasi wren yeah that's a far better name for it
narrow scarab
@chala I hadn't seen the temporary removal announcement I only remember the one they cancelled that said they would be removed permanently
vernal lotus
I wouldn't bank on seeing khan and mara back scopley has trouble with the truth most of the time
It's a bait and switch they had no problem with khan and mara during borg
narrow scarab
@vernal lotus refinery is like the postcode lottery your never sure the winners are real...I'm 14 shards from kahn so by next sunday could have had him
vernal lotus
Scopley is just being cheep
@narrow scarab better get working on those transporter patterns
Listen to the talking trek podcast about generating as man as possible
quasi wren
It is in the last official announcement
vernal lotus
@quasi wren it was a official statement that they were going to put them back this just seems like well for the rest of July and probably August they will get you used to not seeing them
Then there will some reason why like the player feed back they used to make this change in the first place
Scopley lied about that and got flamed for it and now they will just push it out anyways. Sorry I have no faith
narrow scarab
I'm expecting a pack to appear to bait people like me in to buy special shards to finish it
static wagon
We need more level 32 swarm systems!
nova sierra
We need dark space swarm systems too..and an extra tier or 2 for the Franklin
Same goes for data
nova sierra
Each month this game becomes less about skill, determination and strategy and is thrown to those who have money to spend (guess the Covid economy didn’t hit them).
That is one reason for seeing the petty running alliances. It’s not good gameplay and helping each other that elevates you.
Scopely, you are slowly ruining this game. You do realize that this is a goose that lays your golden eggs?
north pier
what happing to game i upgraded game and now nothing works right this stinks
hollow plank
Not being able to hostile grind epic 3* ships means I play the game a lot less than I did previously. Am level 33 and a ship collector, been (essentially) f2p since Dec '18, dual fed and rom. Worked hard on a daily basis to get extra sally and cent then trep and gladius bps. Just became triple alliance with Klingons so thats done and dailies are a breeze, bortas sorted and brel not far away. Going to be months till I get an enterprise and no way to speed it up by playing more. Feel like that's a big mistake, way too big a gap in ships between 32 and 34 and no sense of progress/achievement by grinding anymore.
sand flicker
Live target practice is a joke. Take the jelly out and make it actually competitive. Or just change the name from Live target practice to Jellyfish Domination.
quick coral
So, when will we see the "borg store"?
glass hamlet
@quick coral i'm pretty sure that currently applies to the independent credit bundle for charged nanoprobes in the refinery
i could be wrong though, i went the other route
quick coral
Perhaps... but would rather get an actual borg store to get their officers...
robust helm
Not being able to hostile grind epic 3* ships means I play the game a lot less than I did previously. Am level 33 and a ship collector, been (essentially) f2p since Dec '18, dual fed and rom. Worked hard on a daily basis to get extra sally and cent then trep and gladius bps. Just became triple alliance with Klingons so thats done and dailies are a breeze, bortas sorted and brel not far away. Going to be months till I get an enterprise and no way to speed it up by playing more. Feel like that's a big mistake, way too big a gap in ships between 32 and 34 and no sense of progress/achievement by grinding anymore.
@hollow plank You can speed it up in a way... You can get yourself to celebrated at 30M, but not progress beyond that... and every day, you hunt hostiles to drop below 30M, claim the Admired faction message chest, and then get rep above 30M and claim the celebrated Faction message chest... it can make your grind faster and maybe take off a month or so from Epic G3 grind
It does increase my daily credits
I'm a lv 29 and I already have grinded 50Bps of Gladius, Built every T1 and T2 faction ship of fed and rom, and also have the bps for both faction miners but since my ops is just lv 29, cant build them yet
You can earn 1240 credits a day if you switched between admired and celebrated everyday
And that is without considering your Vidar
At max vidar you get 300 credits a day
You can nearly get 1500 credits each day if you put in a lot of work...
so 180K/1.5K is 120 days
But yeah this method will require lots of work and spending rss
But if you could
You can grind a G3 epic just by doing dailies
And if you add up all the faction hunts and event stores and missions... you might be able to do it in 3.5 months or less
But this is just theoretical
I can manage 750 credits a day from dailies and 150 from vidar each day...
I earn 900 credits a day
And that is pretty good for a lv 29 player guess
The only pain in the neck is finding lv 39 scouts
I hope this helps
nova sierra
Wolf, gya'han and terminimuras for 39 scouts, fed, Klingon, rom respectively
hollow plank
@robust helm 👍
robust helm
Wolf, gya'han and terminimuras for 39 scouts, fed, Klingon, rom respectively
@nova sierra Yeah but gotta wait like 2-3 hours everyday
you need quite a few 39 scouts and so many are there to catch them
hot condor
No Latinum Rush Single Milestones?
surreal condor
No - we have master surveyor instead apparently
hot condor
With only tritanium...
surreal condor
We've already relayed feedback about the rewards
Unfortunately, not much else the Mod Team can do
river turtle
Recycled events with rewards that suck for second day in a row
Another Scopley masterpiece
midnight solar
1/2
To whom it may concern: This is not a threat or an ultimatium. There are plenty of people screaming about players leaving, but I always doubt that kind of talk. But here is one real case: me. I have decided that after a year and a half of being dedicated to this game for 12+ hours a day, I'm no longer the type of player the designers wish to entertain. I'm not going to fill my post with rants, but here are some things that might bring me back in the future:
- The rogue line introduced way more resources to the game. My head spins trying to walk through the new research and figure out what I need and where to get it. Some tool-tips are clear, others are mysterious. I felt that steel/trit/dilith and crystal/gas/ore with a little data thrown in was more than enough resource management. Now there are just too many and I feel like I can't do all that I want to in a single day.
- I can't shake the feeling that design is intended to be overloaded and complicated and push you in the path of "just buy packs, it will have all you need" but the packs are way overpriced and undervalued for what I'm trying to focus on.
2/2
3. The game is extremly throttled. I don't know that the Refinery is "broken" because we don't know the real % chance of getting what we want, but only getting two pulls a day for this buildilng block slams people into a wall. Even $99 packs don't solve the issue at higher teirs. Augment store is a good example of this. You can only buy aug credits once a day at a fixed rate but the spending is still throttled at values you can't even achieve from daily packs or any other source in the game. The point is, if I have earned it through time or real money, let me spend it. Let me burn through the game at my own pace.
4. PVP - I know this is a hot-spot, but for me, it just wasn't very fun. Sure I enjoyed the occasional crushing of an opponent, but 99% of the time it comes down to triangle and power. I know many will argue about the strategy of PVP but really what it comes down to is do you have anything that can engage a bigger ship directly? The answer is almost always no. We can't station ourselves in an ally base and we can't team up on bigger ships so 1v1 is about who has the higher level.
I plan for this to be my last post here and I do so in hopes that if someone cares, they can make a difference. I will keep an eye on the game every so often.
nova sierra
Feedback on lat Monday change: 🐂 💩 🚮
crude yarrow
Please for the love of God and to end arguments can you make it clear how much parsteel, trit and dill scores towards the “Resources Raided” leaderboard. I noticed 1mill dilithium is 1mill scored on LB but 1m Parsteel is about 450k towards the leaderboard score.
Can we ever get an official resource:score breakdown to end the arguments.
nova sierra
Who tf cares
crude yarrow
Obviously a lot do, otherwise their wouldn’t be arguments about it
nova sierra
Yay you're top of the doucebag leaderboard well done you, here's a cookie 🍪
crude yarrow
What is the point in your contribution to this topic?
nova sierra
Cookies?
crude yarrow
I’m asking a genuine question, why does it bother you?
nova sierra
Because cookies are expensive and robbing is cheap
zinc salmon
I have to say I was positively impressed with Scopely support last night - I had a ship stuck (a common issue per #632109496247779338 , I know), and within less than an hour of sending the ticket it was fixed.
river turtle
Yeah support is great! my alliance mate couldn't log in bc of of the iOS update debacle, took support 3 days the fix it so he could play again. Of course he got raided and lost his 2 billion rss - today support acknowledged the bug but said they can't refund the rss.
zinc salmon
The admiral in my alliance got his access restored by support the same day - he was down only for about 6-7 hours
river turtle
good for him!
timid heart
There's a first time for everything I guess.
nova sierra
hello,
is there a way to get back admiral role ingame when our admiral disapears during long time ? and set him commodore until he's back ?
neat wolf
I also prefer the "Master Surveyor" event over a "mining" event that excludes data mining.
dawn nexus
@nova sierra Have several of your alliance make support tickets
nova sierra
@nova sierra Have several of your alliance make support tickets
@dawn nexus do you mean all active member need to open an ingame ticket to request it ?
dawn nexus
No, not all active. No need to spam CS
Just a couple of Commodores should suffice I imagine
nova sierra
thx a lot for your help 😉
nova sierra
The refinery Absolutely sucks. Cashed in 75k in 3g chrystal and got 7 uncommon, after2 days of no uncommons or rare.
hollow pike
The house always wins
brisk marten
@delicate sentinel ... PVP and raiding is FKD and has been since avatars were introduced. Every change Scopely has made has made it worse and I am questioning why I still play this game. I have to restart the game a million times a day to do any PVP or raiding. Targeting was already abysmal and now with the latest "update" it's even worse. I want to throw my tablet out the fkn window. I have no interest in Borg, Aug or Outlaw. I just want the core of the game to work, PVP , which is what the game is meant to be based on. I was going to send a video to Support showing the problems with raiding and they closed the ticket saying they'd pass it on before I even sent the video. PVE is also bugged to hell, I sent a video showing how the drop down notifications break the client side view. The cost of progress at 40+ is ridiculous. There is a reason players at that level are quitting and Scopely don't seem to being doing anything about it. By the time someone addresses all these things instead of pumping out repetitive, complex and boring events, it may be too late.
last nest
They dont care about you once you hit 40 you've already spent thousands upon thousands on them so if you quit they still got your money. When people start getting near that f2p they will try to put things to divert progression aka , outlaw, augment, borg. If you didn't notice by now that's all the content is to keep people mid level slightly interested in the game.
quasi wren
Ok this is a rant on the event. The impression I got from all info given was a 27 would be able to finish the first stage of this arc. Several of my alliance mates got the same impression. Now after burning through lots of rss, material and speed ups. They are hitting a lvl wall with about 2-4 points f Ry I’m topping out. Scopely really needs to blow up or highlight that micro print that say oh hey you need to be 27 to start but if you want to finish it you need to be lvl 28. Oh so sorry. Here if you don’t want to lvl buy this $100 pack to auto complete. Even though you only need 3 points and not 70. Pause rant
last nest
All the side ships they've been putting into the game as "content" is just progression slowing so you dont focus on your main ships. Bb, franklin, dvor, vidar, stella. Is just diversion ships that slow down your progression even further.
Thats why they got rid of ops events, apparently jelly events because people were stocking up on uncommon material. So they added this "outlaw" stuff to get rid of your current stockpile youve been saving.
They could have easily just made boosts to augument when it first came out and continued on that instead of making a mess of different ships and turning the game into a convoluted confusion bubble with all the different sort of "currencies". Would have been way better expanding augment instead of adding another zone in lower space when we are heading towards deeper space.
nova sierra
👆all of this...also worth noting this arc has seen a dramatic throttling of parsteel rewards, just one solitary event rewarding parsteel so far with even lat Monday being replaced by a 💩 trit reward mining event
The stella is especially insidious with it's recycling mechanic. Spend rss and speed ups etc to build and tier it->scrap for materials needed for research->spend rss, materials and speed ups etc on research->build new stella->repeat ad infinitum
As hamster wheels go it's artfully crafted but it's still just a mechanic to keep us spinning our wheels
brisk marten
@last nest I disagree. If they are just left with players who don't spend money the game will be gone.
last nest
im not saying to taking away any of the spending formats
nova sierra
There's spending and there's forced spending...
Spending should be optional to gain an advantage or early access to content...it shouldn't be mandatory just to play
last nest
Just stop making ships that require materials my core ships need so i can continue to progress
and not letting every level get an ops event is obviously intentional
only letting 19-24 is just rude af
i've been saving up my mats for an ops event for 6 months but they stopped doing ops events because people have been stocking up for the benefits they gave
autumn echo
Got to increase the output from the refinery!
It’s worse than it has ever been! Yet another 3 lots of 75k refines this morning, with zero uncommon or rare from 2 of them.
This has been like this now for weeks and people are just fed up with it and talking of quitting.
I have to say I feel the same, progress is just impossible without a decent refinery!
It’s a real shame that the game has to be ruined by this one thing that is soo far out of sync with the rest of it!
Poor!
nova sierra
Yup, as soon as the playerbase gets a handle on how to advance strategically scopely performs their patented rug pull
brisk marten
How quickly can players save 7bn par?
last nest
i have 6b since 6 months ago
nova sierra
Couple of months without raiding...depends on events
brisk marten
I need 7bn for my Dil Vault to upgrade a single lvl.
last nest
i could probably get to 38 but ive been waiting for an ops event
nova sierra
Ops events past lvl30 are few and far between...35+ they are practically non-existent
last nest
i was going to get to 39 if possible and mine till the game ends anyway theres no content worthy for my wallet
after that
nova sierra
Pretty much my plan too...unless they open the floodgates on g3 properly g4 is out of our reach
brisk marten
The 4* refineries make the 3* one look generous and the cost to lvl up is ridiculous. Something like 100bn par between 41 and 42
Depends on all your buildings , how far behind any are etc
Events give less than 3* events do comparatively
Unc parts would take 6+ months per ship module.
It's just pointless. Stay below 40.
nova sierra
Yup, way ahead of you lol enough alliance buddy's have gone 40+ and told their tales of woe for me to know it ain't for the likes of me
I'll hit 39 by the end of this arc then it's just consolidating that position until things improve or Iget truly fed up and quit
last nest
We only have 5 people on our server that are pushing to 50
the rest got to around 43 and said nah were fine here
lol
and have pretty much stopped spending
and like 15-20 of those quit
nova sierra
When every tiny bit of progress comes with a price tag it's very demotivating
At lvl30 a single 100€ pack can upgrade a few things if you budget well, at 40+ it's like trying to empty the ocean with a colander
glass sundial
The cool down between each rare plutonium allowance is mad and frustrating
Get 15 will take forever
nova sierra
@glass sundial if you rep up it resets store timers, try to time what you get to coincide with a rep up.
Also there will be more available per purchase at higher rep
glass sundial
Thank you but it shouldn’t be such a stupidly long time and as you can see I’m some way off the next rep level
nova sierra
Yeah...I don't remember it being like that when I repped up...that cd for 1 rare plutonium is ludicrous
olive wraith
why can't the ally help at tier up ships??
grizzled plume
@glass sundial when you get to Ops30 you can buy 40 rare plutonium a day. Only a few days and your BB is maxed.
nova sierra
Ah that explains it, I was already ops30 when augment rolled out
brisk ridge
Hi all. Not really sure where to post this, so I thought here would be good. Trying to have this reach the developers. With the rollout of the "hiding under nodes" fix. It is impossible to select a location next to a ship or other selectable object to move your ship next to. This is a problem, cause now we can't easily create memorials. On our server, we had someone pass because of the corona virus and making a simple "V" is very difficult. I am frustrated that we can't make a nice looking memorial anymore.
robust helm
The cool down between each rare plutonium allowance is mad and frustrating
@glass sundial Actually Rare plutonium didn't show up in store till lv 30. Once you're lv 30, you can get it everyday but they just added 1 rare per month for people under lv 30 lately
nova sierra
Oh yeah...forgot about that. When we did augment it really was uphill both ways
glass sundial
Thank you all
coarse dust
Scopely- I just want to add my voice to the many who rigorously complain about refining rates.
I find myself unable to upgrade my Oos level, upgrade my ship or complete Outlaws research as it all requires 3* UC Ore.
Today when refining my two lots of Ore I received ZERO uc ore.
My Ops upgrade requires 230
My ship requires 505 to get next tier
Even if I get 40 UC per day (and there is no chance of this) it will take me 18 days just to do those two things.
You are breaking the game with this insane choke point. I know sometimes you try and push people to buy packs but this isn't even an option to get what I need.
If there is one thing that is going to push a customer who has paid £££ over the last few months away from your game it is this.
Please listen to your customers. Listen ing and responding to feedback is the core of consumer experience a d euay makes us stick with your product
Rant over 😩
lilac storm
I’m seeing more of this issue. According to the game there is a player on that node. It gives me a warning that I’ll lose my station shield if I attack. But attack isn’t what’s shown and no ship is visible.
Also, can you please reduce the hit box (or whatever you call it) of nodes?
I use to be able to park a ship next to a node (just outside the square around the node) but now I have to park further away.
There a couple places where the nodes are so close that their hit boxes overlap and you can use the new tool to target stacked ships to switch between which node you are targeting. I can see this leading to multiple accidental attacks of the wrong target.
stiff spruce
Can we please have some other way to earn, mine or refine rare mats beyond the random rare refinery drops?
coarse dust
They need to listen to us nerfherder.. its ruining the game
river canyon
New gripe, why am I getting officer Xp points for maxed out officers? I can understand having to feel ripped off of officer shards when they are in a prize or gift you give us but when I am paying for the Officer Shards then that is a ripoff. Most of the ones I am seeing only give you 1 or2 shard opportunities when you get Officer XP max credits. You are stealing from us when we pay for shards and get lower amount XP credits. At least in the Federation recruitment there should be no max Officer XP credits because we are paying for those they are not a gift. Bait and switch ripoff.
😫😫😫💩💩💩👀👀😩😩😩
glass hamlet
@river canyon uncommon and common officers give xp when you pull a shard for an officer with max shards
rare and epic give transporter patterns
viscid hill
Better refinery would be nice. Making generators relevant again would also be nice.
olive wraith
where is the borg shop??? <@&509691205798592532> @delicate sentinel
warm plover
Please increase the hostile density / spawn rate in the new systems.
muted swift
@olive wraith what it is referring to is the refinery section where you do borg probes
I get 55 indy credits there after completing that research
olive wraith
@muted swift sure?? why doesn't stand there refinery??
muted swift
Yeah in the borg tech section of the refinery where you buy independent credits with charged probes. That's the package that will be affected
quick coral
There is a "borg store" as well (it is a tab in the actual "store" section), but it is currently empty.
They have also mentioned in the past how they hope to have an actual store for borg stuff so we can continue to get more borg related content (like officers), but have not figured out how they want to do it yet.
round shard
I have every f2p Epic officer unlocked, several of them already promoted once. All except one; Pike.
So my feedback is 'Give me Pike'
quick coral
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691611903426561> Have to say, I watched/listened to the podcast with Rev Deuce, DJ, and Panic recently, and I have to say.... I am really frustrated. I find myself playing the game every day, for hours every day. I have spent under $200 on the game in total since I started playing in Jan-2019. I am finding myself increasingly discouraged to play this game. I am ops 30, have a T7 Cent, T6 Sally, T8 Horizon, T6 Horizon, T3 Antares, T1 Valkis, and a T6 Legionary. I am doing my best as a mostly free to play player to keep up in research, building progression, ship progression, officer progression...... but I have to tell you, I feel absolutely stalled and defeated in my ability to ACTUALLY progress in the game. I enjoy being able to max tier my ships, but I have not been able to do that since I got any grade 3 ship. Looking ahead and seeing the cost of upgrades, ships, research, etc.… it makes me want to quit the game. And I feel like Panic and Scopely do not get it.
Yeah.... Panic plays the game.... but I do not think he actually feels the same pain that many players feel. “Oh, the refinery is just part of the game, find other ways to get the materials you need.......” (paraphrased) That logic does not work in this game. Power progression is extremely and purposefully metered to slow players down. Panic provided an example of World of Warcraft (WoW), and trying to get a certain weapon for 10 months. Yeah, that sucks. But, as a former WoW player myself, I call BS on that. In WoW, weapons/gear do not make the player good. Actual skill does. And I can provide an example. In the expansion WoW: Wrath of the Lich King, the final raid of the expansion (Icecrown Citadel), it was recommended that you have gear with an item level of like.... 235+ (beginning of expansion, item level was 150ish). The first "Rare" gear for max level characters was item level 200. To prove a point that the raid was all about skill and not gear, a raid group did the entire raid using nothing but item level 200 "rare" gear, which was un-heard of. My point in all of this is this. Player progression in WoW is first based on skill, second based on gear. You can progress to bigger and harder content through sheer skill. In STFC, there is no skill. It is all about the "gear", i.e. the ships and the officers. Skill in this game would denote more than just selecting target and pressing attack. Because once you leave the station, there is 0% skill involved. You have no say over who you are going to run into out in the great black yonder. Should you take a Centurion with anti-fed crew in case you run into a Saladin? Oh no! You ran into a K’Tinga. Better luck next time. That is not skill, that is “wallet warrior”. WoW was skill, and Panic should know that. Gear in WoW was (and still is) a crutch to help make the game easier. “Gear” in STFC is essential.
Yay! They are looking for more ways to add officer badges to the game. That is great!! And I absolutely mean that. Officers are absolutely the great equalizer in this game. But, you know what else helps? Being able to actually progress in power. I have been waiting since February trying to upgrade my Saladin to tier 7. You know what keeps getting in the way? Everything else. Research takes UC crystal. Miners take UC crystal. Vidar takes UC crystal. Buildings take UC crystal. Without spending hundreds, if not thousands of dollars, I am not sure I will ever be able to tier up the Saladin again. So, what incentive is there for a mostly free-to-play player to keep playing this game? I only really see two options remaining for me: 1) stall my gameplay indefinitely at Ops 31 until I can get all of my ships to the level/tier I want them at (which I assume would take a year or more), or 2) quit the game. I would get raided, my alliance would lose out on a hugely active member, and my server would be down yet another player. And for your information, I average ~7 uncommons and ~0 rares per batch from the refinery, so…. if you do the math…. that is a long wait for many of the upgrades on any given ship.
Scopely, you need to hear more of this frustration from your player-base. I. Am. Not. Happy. There NEEDS to be a way for non-wallet-warriors to be able to reasonably progress in this game without planning on it taking literal years to do. I do not know how many people actually realize how much UC gas it takes to max tier an Enterprise (reason I started playing), but I have no fracking idea how I am going to get the 50,000 UC gas needed to max tier that ship (much less the 10,000 rare gas… and all the associated ore). I do not even know how long it is going to take for me to have the federation credits to buy the blueprints…… But I expect at my current rate of progression…. Anywhere between 2-5 years.
brisk marten
The game is turning to 💩 anyway. The core of the game is broken, PVP/Raiding, and they are doing nothing about it. It's missions and mining. Neither of which I'm interested in. As I said above, 40+ is pointless. I'm at 41 and I'm ready to quit myself if this gets much worse as it is unplayable.
Scopely: GET RID OF THE BLOODY DROP DOWN NOTIFICATIONS! THE INTERRUPT FUNCTION BREAKS CLIENT GAMEPLAY AND CANCELS EVERY COMMAND ISSUED!
stiff juniper
What would be nice is to have the ability to save Crew Presets. from the assign crew menu
merry vine
Can you please adjust hit ranges. I mean a lvl 40 hit a 28 is a bit extreme. The range should be plus or minus a set number from your level. I am 22 and can hit down to a 19 and up to a 29 but a 33 can hit me. I me come on I needs to be a set range of like 5 levels different so a 20 can hit 15 to 25 and so on.
dusky sedge
Can epic and rare armadas have the same cooldowns as uncommon. Right now everyone is focused on event armadas and if you want to run a normal epic and rare, u have to wait days or a week to get them in
modest lance
A bunch of missions I had archived (saved for a later date) have just auto completed. Have scopely changed something? If so announcement before the change, rather than finding through prompting like this would be great.
muted swift
Wow ops lvl 36, just did my morning refines, did 3 prime 12k batches, got 7 uc total. Awesome. My ore income has dropped to near zero lately. Fix refinery.
regal loom
In game support closes tickets after their first response??? That’s just terrible customer service. At least check to make sure the issue is resolved. Now I have to open another ticket on the same issue and wait another day for a different person to respond.
midnight pilot
@regal loom a day your lucky took 5 days just to get a response to provide copy of stfc announcement to players on an unrelated matter.
Obviously didn't even read or understand or check my player I'd or look at issue.
I tried a different language...
regal loom
My issues isn’t even that important it’s the lack of common courtesy and customer service to deny me any response on the matter.
Even with my insignificant issue after 5 days I’d be hot. If it were something important even more so. 5 days!?!?
midnight pilot
As English is obviously not their first language
Since they are us/Spanish, Spanish seemed appropriate
fresh current
Why is this a thing in the store this needs to be removed also why is stuff way over priced in the store.
coral frost
@delicate sentinel it would be nice if single players of alliances or without alliances can be set as enemy
pure sage
Read lots of comments here and Excatheda's post is spot on. As a former WOW player it did not take me 1.5 yrs to get to max level or get some of, if not, THE best gear in-game, it took only 4-5 months after an expansion release... and then the next expansion released - rinse repeat.
The refinery is our single most block to progression. There should be a guaranteed amount of Common, Uncommon and Rare on each pull. There is no way in h3ll that on a triple pull that I should only get 100 Common and nothing else @ LVL 35 with a LVL 34 refinery. Minimum that I should get is 100 Common, 21 Common and 3 Rare... minimum. The events help, but not to the degree you might think it does.
Officer badges... Nice to include one of each in the current Arc, but other than that to have them paywalled like they are currently is unacceptable.
vague holly
This is not WoW...
pure sage
No it's not, STFC is much much more frustrating to progress in.
pure sage
Why? This is about feedback, that was my feedback. If you want to take it and wage a war of words you are welcome to PM me.
This is not the place
vague holly
gating mechanisms are there for a reason. You want to bypass them, spend $$ to buy your Mats
pure sage
As I said feel free to PM me
visual agate
@vague holly "then go play WoW" is not the greatest of argument. You are a low level player. I suggest you get to ops 32-34 and then you can see if the post made sense or not. Getting 54k uncommon gas just isn't possible f2p in a fun time period.
vague holly
I'd have to re-listen to it, but pretty sure Panic was asked about this on DJs podcast and he basically said it's not changing
so if you don't like it, going to play WoW is an option
also, is it even supposed to be possible f2p? That's how most of these f2p games work. Yeah, it's possible as f2p, but it's gonna be a long grind
for me, when the grind gets to be too much, you better believe I'll just move on to another game and not whine and complain about it
also, this is not WoW. WoW charges a monthly subscription, this game does not. It's disingenuous to compare mechanics to WoW
visual agate
we are in suggestions channel and not whine channel. if the post were made in general chat, i would had agreed with you.
the comparison to WoW was made by panic and it is totally fair to compare any 2 games as the main idea is to disconnect and have fun. A design claimed to serve both f2p and p2p is supposed to do that exactly. otherwise (as in this case) is easy to spot as being a cash grab.
vague holly
Panic also says things that are flat out wrong. Just because he compares it to WoW does not mean it's right or makes sense to compare to WoW. They are entirely different games with entirely different pay models and mechanics. Does not make sense to compare them, no matter who does it. Panic, other players, doesn't matter. It does not make sense.
spark vale
Dear Scopely, As seen here #🌌-galaxy-chat message ... which leads credence to LCARS having input the data right, scrapping rewards do not include ship XP as is commonly given in other ship scrapping scenarios. Uranium is also missing. Why are these not returned when the expectation is that we are to leve up the stella then scrap her regularly for more particles? This makes it very difficult given the ship xp is not easily obtainable in large volumes. The TCO for the stella for ship XP is 2m just like any other 3* ship, but unlike every other 3* ship, the return from scrapping it at max value is 0 vs 51,234 Ship XP ... any chance this was an omission that can be rectified? Sure, its not the full input numbers, but at least its more than 0 currently being given.... Thanks!
vast matrix
On the subject of Refining Materials, I find it very frustrating that you get such a paltry return of common/uncommon refined materials and then only once a day can you turn in your Mats with no guaranty of return ahh but with such paltry returns who cares....
naive stream
The imbalance in the attack parameters is juts beyond frustrating. A lvl30 with nearly 12M power and ships in the 700K range being able to attack a lvl 24 with only 2M power and a max ship power of 280K is just flat out ridiculous. That's like letting a high school senior beat up on a 6th grader. It's just insane! My fellow alliance member was hit by one of our server's favorite bully alliance's members in what can only be described as a sever a** raping. Total BS. C'mon Scopely. Get it together and realize that you have players of all income ranges and many who are FtP that are being used as simply cannon fodder for the high roller PtPs. If your intention is to kill your cash cow, then by all means, don't listen to your loyal players.
pastel zealot
Why do we get rewarded kehra/vahk/kumari shards hitting high level ships?
If I can hit a lvl 37 trader, I won't be building a kehra. Surely something more useful could be rewarded. Eg more common/uncommon materials
olive wraith
where do i get alpha partikel?? except buying it <@&509691205798592532>
frigid jolt
Research
olive wraith
must i research it to max??
limber dome
No, you get it from those two researches. But without paying you have to choose one from the two research chains.
junior frost
@quick coral I felt the problem with uncommon crystal begin at ops 27, and right now there doesn't appear to be any way to get around this bottleneck. So what about simply paying for it? Well, I've purchased a few packs, but buying packs doesn't provide a reasonable way to progress in the game in my opinion., because Crystal is just a small part of the $ 99 packs.
Let's pull up my "best" buying option right now: the ACC Master Pack! It provides 249 uncommon refined crystal. Now, if I could only get my Saladin to Tier 6 ... which would require 2x800 crystal for those two weapon banks I need to upgrade. But it would be insane to spend 6-700 dollars on just getting two weapons upgraded.
I wonder if it's just downhill from here at my level 29 ops ...
nova sierra
@junior frost you think it's bad at 27? Try it at 30 when you're trying to tier up a faction miner alongside a sally or bortas (roms have it a little easier)
Oh and as fed your lvl32 rare needs crystal too (intrepid)...gl with that
slender fulcrum
I'm always amazed at how "random" the refinery works. I don't get materials that I miss at every turn. Others in abundance, which will certainly change when I need these materials.
Box of 3 this morning: 128x grey crystal
box of 3 earlier: 109x grey, 3x blue
formal mauve
More and more I am noticing I am not getting notifications of when nodes are at zero. Where as before I would receive a real time alert. Now I only receive most of the time a real tune alert after an attack. Even then for station attacks it can be delayed...
olive wraith
@limber dome than i haven't get it so far. i'm nearly maxes the research anarchyst weaponery
gaunt geyser
For server 43, can you put in more dilithium mining nodes? It's a pain point for leveling up
We are consolidating faster and everyone is low on dilithium
cunning delta
I just wanted to drop a feedback about your Stella event. It shouldn't take WEEKS of research trees that are, lets just admit it, ARE USELESS to gameplay. In many ways the research trees we're having to wait on are really just gameplay fixes that you should have done MONTHS ago. I made the mistake of purchasing the battle pass upgrade pack to get the stella BP's earlier. Then I take a look and find out how much research is required just to get the "stella research". I'm incredibly disappointed in scopely for what continues to feel like a bait and switch with your purchases. Even when we do finally get to grind out ships for events, Vidar and Franklin, they're junk. The RSS to upgrage them to our current level is so high that it would take weeks again to grind them to even the lowest levels of just the dailies. Personally I'm done spending money until the bugs get fixed and I can trust that I'm not just buying another junk ship good only during an event which I'm probably not going to be able to particiape in because the new ship I just bought is under powered and will not be to level by the time the event is over.
lusty shore
Can anything be done with bots spamming on Galaxy Chat
quick coral
Block them?
river canyon
What are bots?
nova sierra
Positive feedback time: eclipse armada loot chests giving guaranteed epic directives is a great feature. This offers a clear and predictable path of progress for outlaw armadas. Take this feedback and learn from it.
dawn nexus
All Armadas give Upscaled rewards in dirs for next Armada up for leader
nova sierra
Yeah but that's old news now, was trying to keep the feedback relevant 😋
zenith timber
What is the best research tree?
nova sierra
The hit box for player ships, stations and hostiles is too big. Selecting specific things and locations is frustrating to say the least
heavy anchor
It's been four weeks since June ISS Jelly Event. Where is the July event? @delicate sentinel
inner shoal
I didn’t receive my rewards for the hostile event - the points I needed for Stella
olive wraith
where and when can i obtain the twc for these 3 systems??? <@&509691205798592532> @delicate sentinel
onyx dock
Pretty sure none of us have a clue 😅
junior frost
Is anything being done with the extreme lagging issues (server 157)?
System view lags, scrolling lags, battle report lags, hits Attack ... lags. It's unbearable...