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#💬-general-feedback
midnight pilot
As for feedback, we'll this games meant for mobile market, yet playing on mobile requires constant closing restarting the game every 15 to 20 mins, then again after each kill.
Maybe clean all those floating lvl 1 to 9 ships sitting around the place.
vapid oar
@midnight pilot Thanks bud. Never woulda figured that out on my own. 🤓
Talkin about when I actually want to use one.
Used to show how many you had.
Pita to go through items to see it, then go back to actually move
gusty cliff
My brother is on server 41 and level 10, and is trying to transfer to my server (31) and can never transfer because mine is a "high population" server. I, myself would. Be willing to transfer to his server yet am too high level. So we are doomed to never being able to play together. @scopely please, please fix this issue.
high igloo
Can we have a self destruct button? Sometimes our ships are in too low of systems to hit a ship to bring it back.
velvet rapids
vapid oar
@velvet rapids Good job. Any feedback?
exotic onyx
Here a suggestion, stop using rounded figures for protected cargo & just give the exact number so we know when we're over it! I just got hit cuz I was less than 1% overmine so your crappy little bar didn't show it
nova sierra
When are these server merges happening? My Augur is ready to kill anyone who joins my server (156)
dark meadow
nimble mural
Yeah, it's affecting all APAC servers, already been reported mate
nimble mural
A lot of us are in the same boat
hollow parrot
Its mind boggling how many glitches this game has with the amount of money this company makes. Here's a tip, hire competent developers.
pure fern
I have reported that the game has meamory leakage, the coders are not clearing memory at all and inputs new stuff to memory whole time, game starts to slowdown and restart is needed.
river widget
Single pull for rare armadas, ops 30. I might as well give up on them, I get more from just about anything else. Waste of time and unacceptable reward for the effort required.
autumn echo
Tell me something scopely? Why do you expect people to remain playing this game when the refinery halts your progress so dramatically and so often? I am yet again stuck because I cannot get any rare ore or UC crystal out of the refinery. It never gives enough anyway, but when you need something specific to progress, the refinery simply won't give it! It's a major blocker in this game, I might as well not bother playing if I can't progress! It's shockingly bad!
nova sierra
Not being able to see systems in deep space unless you have a ship there is just an annoyance. No need for this limitation at all.
I think that the cross server joins has lead to a flood of level 14 or under sat on g3 nodes all day and no one can kill them I think a different approach should be taken towards this
cobalt gust
Mining Ships should auto return on full cargo or empty node
nimble mural
No thanks, don't want that
nova sierra
͔
gaunt lagoon
Getting regular transwarp coils from antique latinum refinery is stooooopid. Especially since you effectively lose out on daily gifts cause of the 8 max cap.
vocal wren
server 20 is down
errant smelt
Please stop censoring normal words and popular human names and then tell your support to give us bull excrement as reason as if that okays this buggy behavior. This is unacceptable behavior Scopely. I don’t give a poop about which norma words Cyrillic cursewords resemble. Stop this!
And what does a first name you are censoring have to do with usernames??
And STOP locking tickets when you ALWAYS MISUNDERSTAND EVERYTHING and I have to start a new ticket and then repeat myself over and OVER AGAIN. Every f king time
And then you tell them to read the previous ticket and they literally don’t…
quick coral
Have you guys considered changing the daily milestone rewards? Either swap out the 8 hr shield with a 12 hr shield, or with the final milestone include a 12 hr shield? I say this because sleep is one of the most important things that humans need to be able to function and be healthy (world wide pandemic or not). This game is fairly addictive for a lot of its player base. A lot of us are free to play or nearly free to play, and do not want to spend ridiculous amounts of money on the game just to get shields. A lot of players are not in big alliances that can regularly get alliance points to purchase a 12 hr shield in the alliance store. For many, an 8 hr shield is not enough time to get the 1 hr recommended break from any screen before bed AND get a full night of sleep.
I am not suggesting that we have enough shield given to us to remain shielded all day, but we need to be able to sleep at night without the added worry of being raided or not because we do not have the resources to get an appropriate length shield.
willow galleon
Scopely I’m sorry but you really are a disgrace people are in lockdown can’t afford anything and you still want us to pay £100 for a pack, you really should be ashamed of yourselves people are struggling to make ends meet and you have no frigging idea on how to treat people 😡😡😡
high igloo
@quick coral I have been saying exactly that for a year
high igloo
Please fix the notification probablem. I haven't been getting notified of depleted nodes, I use a timer though. Others haven't been getting notified of a base hit
Oh also fix the shields
also make it so everyone can get access to a vidar. I'm not saying give it to us, but put bp in missions.
frigid jolt
@quick coral thanks for your constructive post 🙂
high igloo
@frigid jolt I thought you disagreed with 12 hour shields? Huh.
No no no I forgot. You just disagree with me
frigid jolt
I didnt said I want it.I only thanked him for the way he wrote that post
high igloo
Cute
@frigid jolt but when I write that post using medical facts, instead, I get harassed? Interesting.
frigid jolt
Dont talk bs.I never harassed you 🤣
high igloo
You're not allowed to swear! Report him!
high igloo
These are called double standards TheBatMan 😘
it is a form of targetting which is a form of harassment
nova sierra
👀
frigid jolt
Ban me Phil!
mild hemlock
high igloo
@mild hemlock go ahead 😂 pay attention to the subtext
vapid oar
Why do scouts just vanish? Give me a chance to get there
elder ocean
I think a lot of the research is BS just numbers to make us think we are getting a boost - but in reality were just spending mays for nothing - 10% upgrade - 20% more power etc just makes you think your getting something but not
They are adding a lot to the base numbers and not overall too so that the actual gain is much much less than advertised.
pale wyvern
#ge even tho the compensation packs was sent out we where still shorted the rep that we would have gotten if there was no issue, but it is good that the mods are listening to the players, but what needs to happen is the issues need to be fixed & find out why they occurred & what can be done to prevent more issues in future game features.
nova sierra
Hiring competent coders would be the first step...
vivid nebula
#codingishard....for scopely
short owl
So based on my own experience with this app ( at the and of the day it is an app) is that there are far too many defect to justify the extremely low content of prizes
Second, the purchased packs are also insultingly low in advantages compared to price.
Third, strong inconsistencies in algorithms and parameters.
App is so patched that they actualy don't know is a potential fix will trigger a milion of other defects.
In app support is absolutely useless with their generic and evasive answer...
nova sierra
Sounds like you're all caught up 👍 welcome to the community
digital oriole
<@&509691205798592532> please can you feed back@the following. We love to@see where we rank with power, destroyed and raided. Thank you for having them features. It would be brilliant also if we could see a mining resourced tally for alliance and solo as well please.
Also what was the feedback re @quick coral point on shields did we get a reply ?
quick coral
@digital oriole not sure what exactly you mean with your question.
fluid granite
elder ocean
its to make the other crap worth buying
placid ermine
Lvl28 base drained in 3 flipping kvort loads?!?! By a lvl40 that I have no possible recourse against?!? How is this fun?
vivid nebula
I suspect it was fun for him?
nova sierra
No epic borg rewards showing yet... 😠 😠
Any particular reason why?
placid ermine
Yeah, at least the ones that pay are having fun.
Also wasted a shield thinking I was catching him in the middle bc thus slow loading screen.
Yet, I can't even build a faction miner for what ... 2 more levels?!?!
short owl
i really don't understand why scopely is doing that ... i suppose that at some point all packages will dissapear, forcing people to buy that crappy package ... pardon me .. LEAVE the game
slate magnet
No borgshop on server 131
limber hound
Shop is available on eu-158
cedar totem
These rewards are a joke to ppl that ground everyday for those tokens. A F***ing joke scoply. The hype and the word “epic” has no place in this. The fact of the matter is that everyone will not remember the great event we just had but they will remember the CRAPPY rewards at the end that is a fact. Good job at literally shooting yourselves in the face after making great strides.
Seriously wtf are you guys thinking.
woven flare
Wow they really do know how to make players feel loved
Lv34 ops I get this
3 months of graft for that.
cedar totem
Lvl 41 it’s not even enough for a lvl 36 building
woven flare
Well x however many I can get
cedar totem
I would be embarrassed to put this out there.
cedar totem
Yup still have 9 left
woven flare
If I don’t laugh I’ll cry haha
bronze axle
So based on experience. These rewards are a trap. To waste tokens. When they release something people actually want at a later date.
woven flare
Ah well that’s me gone
Spent all mine lol
I want a refund Scopley take my chests back I just opened
Gladly give that rubbish back
bronze axle
I wish I knew. I wish they would release all possible items to be claimed at once so people could choose.
woven flare
Yes exactly
I mean I get more than one of those packs 10x unc off a refine every 10hrs!
It’s a disgrace. A kick in the face
But I’m a fool for opening them.
And they say April fools is the 1st of April. Seems they picked the 22nd of April as another April fools lol
Ah I’m fuming lol. I’m off to cool down.
queen harness
It’s a complete joke
elder ocean
not enough to upgrade on weapon
quick vapor
oak grail
😡😡😡
bronze axle
That reward pack should have gone along with the frame. Epic rewards would be ability to buy ship blueprints.
limber hound
I think the biggest let down with this Epic borg thing, was that everyone was waiting for soooo long , looking forward.
I mean, anything that you have to collect to and save for such a long time should really give you better rewards. possibly even something new and/or interesting.
Now everyone is just going "Meh", some were happy about the tritanium, maybe some for the other resources.. but that's about it.
waxen echo
Pathetic I waited 3 months for that crap
cedar totem
So pathetic.
Actually I take that back. It’s insulting.
We’ve gotten better rewards from mini events.
bronze axle
Swarm Sunday, mining Monday rewards are better. And those are single day event
That does not mean to reduce the rewards for swarm Sunday or Monday Monday 😂
tight wind
Man all that work for such a crappy reward # scopley epic rewards
edgy harness
@tight wind it’s not right until it’s Scopely Right
nova sierra
Scopely, shame on you! A 3 month arc, masses and masses of hard work grinding away at mind numbing events. For quarter of a year of effort, the Borg epic rewards were a cheap shot, a disgrace. Remove head from asshole, come up for air and take a look around... best do it soon or there’ll be nobody left up here.
prisma steeple
naw, sales still have to be solid or they wouldnt do things like this.
were the enablers 🙂
every server has dozens and dozens of epic ships , and even a few new 40+ ships.. to them things are great. Everyone talks but the reality is ... folks are going to forget about this in a day or so and get back to spending.
and they will tell us to hold that Collective L all the way to the bank
crisp tangle
This maybe true, but still people will think twice before joining and investing time in such an event...
This is really bad publicity
nova sierra
I’m a level 40 with 4* ships... I’m annoyed 😂
crisp tangle
Btw same here 😅
prisma steeple
being annoyed is good, but the next time you guys need to buy a pack for whatever reason.. this event right here will be a non factor
limber hound
need to buy..
prisma steeple
if your 40+ with 4* ships it is a need for you at this point 🙂
prisma steeple
haha we'll those 5 billion par buildings sure arent going to be funded by mining and your generators...
versed verge
People at Scooply be laughing at all us that bought into this borg crap.
nova sierra
Easy enough to raid for parsteel with these 4* ships 🖖🏻😬
prisma steeple
then your server must be 1. uber rich and 2. terrible with shield discipline
upper maple
You can cash in borg points. What about Borg rewards, I have more of those. Why can’t I cash these in?
graceful moon
Seems a bit lazy on Scopely’s part to just give rss and a few rare and uncommon for epic reward tokens. After all the hype over last 3 months I expected better. More so could of included officer shards or ship blue prints. Instead it’s just copy and paste of monthly chest rewards with increased rss.
elder hornet
My question was covered what about the left over borg points?
orchid atlas
Scopely Serious about epic borgs rewards for 3 months of work ?????
wind fog
Seriously how can you offer this pack? It's a complete rip off but you still have it.
lyric chasm
Scopely have just shown everyone what they truly think of us as players. Borg “epic” rewards for three months dedication and some people spending money on the game and they give us this. Disgusted and disappointed doesn’t even come close. Scopely are scum.
versed island
Never, I mean never again will I spend cash on this game! 3 months of grinding and $210 later! And we are rewarded with Trash! @$!# @$# Scoply!
short owl
so, is someone from scopely following and answering on this space? Asking because this discord server is mentioned in the official support page.
halcyon coral
dreamy halo
Really disappointed in the rewards... Not because of the contents (I got what I wanted from the arcs, this is a bonus), but the fact you gave raw rss instead of tokens. Anyone who actually uses these is just giving away rss when they're mat locked.
analog barn
this game is just not playable anymore, invalid ship location half the time, ships stuck in battle for minutes, can't pvp for the life of me because of lag with targeting. how did the game deteriorate so so badly
low vector
They moved everything Server Side.
sturdy osprey
3 months to get slapped in the face with mats and rss I could get in one good raid and 2 days of refining...
And all while the bugs have multiplied. Not enough insecticide in the problems in this game
Just watched rev's video on his attempting to come up with constructive criticism. You want constructive? Should have added a multiplier that ticked up with each consecutive day of event. Baseline a high paying pack of materials, latinum, shards and rss tokens and multiply by highest consecutive number of days with an opportunity for epic ship bps. Then on top of that, allow epic borg tokens to be used to assimilate ship upgrades. Then you'll start to hit three months worth of work. Cheapskates.
tranquil pelican
You know what rage quitting is, you invented it... Now watch apathy quitting... Folks just not interested in loging on.... 🤦🏻
analog dagger
Why did the ship packs leave? I'm sure ....with all the rss you gave us via the "epic"Borg tokens...folks would line up to get ship packs🤣
molten flume
Epic Borg rewards were a joke, 3 months work for that was pathetic
green charm
looks like i started on another game at a good time seeing the way we are treated..
crisp tangle
This is general feedback, but where is Scopely's reaction????
cobalt orbit
They're asleep right now, dreaming of more money.
vivid nebula
Or more ways to con and disappoint us
nova sierra
@fast gulch no public shaming here please, report any abusive behaviour directly to customer support with screenshots, deleting from here
fast gulch
@nova sierra tried that.
short owl
This is kindergard support level, common Scopley, we're not kids. @everyone stop buying packages until people get respect they deserve!!!!!
orchid atlas
I’m so glad we are not even getting a response to lack of rewards in epic borg tokens ... scopely really doesn’t care about the game .., just income...
iron ledge
Boycott packs. In general I spend £1500/£2000 a month. Now I’m spending nothing until we start getting a bit of respect as players of their game....
If everyone does the same for a few months, we might get a response...
safe widget
I don’t generally post here but writing hoping someone from scopely sees this cos I agree it was an insult of the word epic. I grinded through the arc, managed to unlock Borg jaylah without spending anything (almost emptied myself on some mats and rss, figured I would have used them anyway cos I was finishing off getting ready for ops 30) and bought one of the capture packs for Borg Decius like a mug, opened a bunch of 2x Chance chests and ended up a couple of shards short of unlocking him. Figured Borg epic rewards would at least give a chance to unlock the rest of that officer, feel very disheartened with the whole game now cos it looks like that chance is gone and the consensus from everyone on my server and reading through these comments is we’ve been given the finger as a community of players 😒
fervent goblet
My “go back in your corner we couldn’t care less” reply from CS regarding the Borg rewards.
fervent bloom
@fervent goblet It sounds to me that they already have the message to copy and paste and next ticket
quick coral
Unacceptable.
short owl
At least now you are highly respected by federation. You should open a champagne, from your own money, of course
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😅 😅 😅 😅 💩 💩 💩
prisma steeple
yeah complained about that also. Everyone totally speeds up a parsteel generator for 6k Lat
definitely the best way to spend it
robust helm
I’ve never posted anything here but the epic Borg reward... I don’t want to be rude but it simply was the worst part of the game ever according to me. All it provided was something that I could grind in less than a half a week ( I am level 29 and I can open 5 chests with what I have). We worked hard for 3 months. There are almost ten times better pack options. If all I wanted was those rss and stuff why would I grind for 3 months instead of buying a simple pack? I haven’t sent the tokens hoping there will actually be something epic, like literally an epic officer shard for one Borg epic reward token, or one ship bp of our choice for each token. If you wish to just go ahead with what the reward is right now for those tokens, those resources and especially UCs should have been in the range of 4000-5000 gas /ore/crystal each and 100s of rare.
In fact, if I had to upgrade only one component out of the 6, I would have to open at least 43 packs just to have enough UC gas
And to tier up my ship I’ll need to have at least 160 such packs
And I can only get 5 packs at max cuz each one of those cost 45
Please for the sake of players change this
vapid oar
It's done. And it's nowhere near the worst thing ever in this game.
Do you really expect 15k uc for an easily achieved bonus at the end? Premium rewards for $20/month was the best option. Plus we got a free ship.
karmic oak
It is one of the biggest disapointments. Talking about those "epic rewards" for months and giving us this.
I agree with you, thousands of uc are to much, but it should have been much more than this. Just throw in some bigger Faction-credit/Blueprint/Borg-Officer-Packs to choose from
stuck delta
Personally I still need 5, 7 and 10 of 10. The time/effort spent in getting partial officers was completely POINTLESS as I cant use any of them as I only have half that I need. Presumably some people still need to unlock the Vidar, there should have been an option to get prints for that too. Personally 60 Uc is not useful to me. I already have 250m Parsteel and 30m Tri that I cant spend (without 3000 crystals) so why would I bother to claim the reward chest as I am already well over protected. I am better just holding out for something... ANYTHING better..
wild zinc
Your Mod Announcement channel is still locked. Can't read anything yet.
blissful estuary
My biggest disappointment with this is that I let my son play the game and he saw there were things to buy in the shop. I had nearly the maximum number of epic Borg points to spend (had 7 left) and guess what the little scamp (word edited for public consumption) did? I won’t even give you one guess as you all already guessed it.
fading wing
I really wish swarms dropped biominerals and you could chose to exchange those biominerals for modulators if you needed them.
uneven elk
Or they could drop raw minerals that you can refine into biominerals which you can then exchange for modulators.
vapid oar
That sounds like a lot of work
long obsidian
So feedback on a crappy rewards leads to an overhaul. Feedback on crappy refinements leads to nothing.
warm plover
Please fix Borg officer's performance on Vidar.
They do terrible in comparison to other officers. (I have all borg officers)
tepid elbow
its what alot of ppl in my alliance agree with
vivid nebula
That would be awesome but will never happen
pure fern
Hey moderator please, 3 months of grinding officer shards and Im stuck upgrading borg officers. Why epic pack did not give ANY INDEPENDED CREDITS???? We need to upgrade borg officers but for 3 months grinding and not a single independed credits given in anytime. Are you planning to increase augmetn store independed credits buys now that more independed caraghters came abroad?
Or are you giving us new Independed tab to Factions which would provide ways of getting more independed credits and borg shards?
jovial plank
This... at level 32, this is what will make people quit the game, How about guaranteed uncommon instead of this 99% of the time, the RNG in this game is horrible
Also have the refined crystal research so that was from a single chest +1, this is what's driving me to quit this game after I've spent thousands on this game. I'm not buying anymore unless this gets remedied
I've stopped bothering with the 3 chests, they're a waste, because all I get is maybe 7 uncommon, and just a bunch of common, this is driving me up the wall with this game
vapid oar
@jovial plank 99%? I got common ore today. 33 uc crystal and 14 gas. You must have really bad luck
jovial plank
@vapid oar it's constantly giving just common materials, I get maybe 7 if I'm lucky, and that's been when doing 3+1 chests...
vapid oar
I've gotten a few 50+ uncommon refines off 4 rolls lately
jovial plank
I've had my Saladin stalled at tier 5 since level 28 because I get very little uncommon
frigid jolt
Your luck sucks 😐
vapid oar
Luck like that is bound to change quickly. Try your hand at the nearest casino
edgy harness
A refinery shouldn’t rely on luck. Don’t know many things you refine where you get random amounts.
frigid jolt
Almost everything in this game depends on luck🤷♂️
jovial plank
Can get nothing but uncommon g2 materials, why is it such a pain with g3? at level 32 when everything wants 1,000 uncommon, this is just frustrating
I'm very close to just quitting this game and taking away the thousands I spent a month going to scopely, so they can enjoy less money from me.
no point to playing when all I'm doing is getting smacked around because of the stupid refinery at level 32.
and there's not enough missions I can do either, already done everything within reach
10 hours between each refine and I get maybe 7 uncommon in a day, that means it'll take me half a year just to upgrade a single component on my ship, and of course every building wants uncommon, so it's like wtf??
I play the game for the competition, not a dragged out waiting on refinery for a year.
Cant compete with anything close to my level, can't finish these dailies, can't do anything except mine and maybe get some dailies done... I'm beyond pissed if you can't tell
vapid oar
@jovial plank I've been there. My rants were fierce when armadas launched. Everything was nerfed for me. Almost all commons for days
No bps either
jovial plank
oof, well this has been going on for months now, also I have about the same luck when it comes to Armada rewards, I get nothing but common and maybe the lowest possible common rewards on rares, even with epic, I've gotten just a load of garbage, maybe 1 blueprint
I thought, "Hey, maybe if I level up the refinery I'll finally see more uncommon", nope...
what's the point of the refinery level anyways if it doesn't increase your chances at uncommon and rares
aside from building and research requirements...
vapid oar
It increases the amount you can get per roll. I don't complain much bc I need lots of common too. Gets expensive using lat all the time
jovial plank
Yeah, but Latinum for common isn't too bad, it's that you cant even use Latinum for uncommon where it drives me into insanity, like come on, if you're not going to let me get uncommon, at least let me use this stockpile of Latinum I've got
it's 0.4 Latinum per every common. if they made it 1 Latinum per uncommon I'd be a much happier camper
gloomy flint
@vapid oar that's operations level.
Higher level ops increases the amounts offered.
vapid oar
Gotta do both eventually
gloomy flint
Well, yeah. But refinery upgrades don't have a clearly defined benefit. Suggested that it may improve the weightings? But 🤷♂️
Feedback: provide more clarity on things please.
vapid oar
hmm... Panic!
quartz ingot
Thanks Scopely for the "Threat from Beyond LB" !!! However, it is not fair to place all players from different levels in one Leadership Board !! please re-consider this
vapid oar
@quartz ingot too late. Where's Batman?
quartz ingot
yes too late for today's one
gloomy flint
They're adjusting it.
quartz ingot
that is a good news
gloomy flint
@quartz ingot screenshot of a screenshot 😅
quartz ingot
Thanks @gloomy flint for sharing this
vapid oar
100% charge too ⚡
gloomy flint
Still plugged in 😂
jovial plank
Should change the refinery to every 4 hours instead of every 10 hours for the cooldown timer, and increase the dang uncommon rates
vapid oar
Let us be egregious again
frigid jolt
😂
wispy crow
This might be a bug, but since I only just got linked this I only saw it now. One of your webpages seems to be keyed to barcode readers :
Can someone review why that page isn't adapting to window in windows please?
I mean I can zoom waaaaaaaay in every time I need it, but this cannot be as intended, surely?
novel oracle
It may be a browser issue. Have you tried viewing the page in another browser? They may not be using a standard layout library that supports all browsers.
meager gust
Hi its a admin for the game her i have a problem
chrome elk
After reaching lvl 31, the free to play or like myself someone who puts in around £100-£200 per month, the game is just impossible to progress now without spending big money... The problem I have, is uncommon refined chrystal. EVERY upgrade requires anything from 400-2000 and the refinery is just a joke.... twice a day doing 2 chests every time and I get anywhere between 0 and 30 maximum. I can perhaps pick up maybe 50 from events. For current upgrades and researches that I have, I need around 20k, which at the current acquisition rates will take me around 3 years. This has put me in a position now where I will absolutely stop making any more purchases and may quit the game altogether if this does not get any better soon.
jovial plank
I just did my morning refinery, got 80 common crystal, then 7 uncommon gas, then 60ish common ore.... wow scopely, talk about best game ever! We love feeling like being abused!
The chance's for uncommon and rare need to go up with each level of refinery, this is absolutely ridiculous that it's just purely luck based
fervent bloom
@jovial plank What we should know is the percentage of each item
chrome elk
The max for a 2 chest on unc would be 28.....
But that happens extremely rarely
Often, it is 0
jovial plank
That would also be great, having the % visible. But what would be better is if it actually produced results, its been DAYS that I've gotten everything is common and maybe one is uncommon x7
actually, it's been weeks and months
but holy crabapples batman, I'm right there with @chrome elk about to quit this game from this bull
I used to spend at least a few hundred a week in this game, now I'm not spending any money in game until they make refinery results better. If there's a player luck variable in there, then they better fix that too because mines obviously 0.0000001% luck, but until they fix this and make me a happy customer, I'm not putting anymore money towards this game, and if I don't see it fixed, then I'm gonna go to all the players I'm friends with who also put money into this game and we all won't put anymore money into this game until it's fixed.
Either give players a reasonable gameplay experience or lose money, your choice
As of right now, if I get my friends to stop paying including myself. Scopely,CBS, Digit are going to lose at least $12K USD a month. Then I'll get more to get on board with this protest. This is how infuriating refinery is, to the point where players have to band together just to make y'all do something about it and make the game more enjoyable, all because of the one feature.
jovial plank
<@&509690795536941056> in case they haven't noticed these messages yet
jovial plank
They'll start caring when we start boycotting the in app purchases and they start losing money 🤷♂️
They could've made an extra $200 today, but I decided to boycott their store, oh well
wet surge
vapid oar
@jovial plank Boycott talk can get you kicked
wet surge
So apparently no more 10 min station shields when. Attacked wtf!!!!
Just allowed to keep going
vapid oar
@wet surge You probably got a 10 min shield. Battle log is only 30 entries and last few are old attacks
We all have them
I currently have 4 old entries in my log including one from 5 days ago
hazy shell
☝️
vale briar
Has anyone ever gotten a shard for M’benga? I’ve wanted to promote him but haven’t gotten a single shard.
vapid oar
@jovial plank Not my best this week. Maybe top 5
pallid compass
Has anyone notice any changes to the Armadas? It took my team and I 4 wacks at an 11 mil when just the other day we took out an 11 mil in one shot.
In the battle report I noticed that my Saladin’s power is a lot lower as well, with the same crew.
I did just finish the research item “Exploit Weakpoints II” but that’s suppose to increase the critical damage by 10%.
jovial plank
@vapid oar if I got chests like that I wouldn't complain
what level are you and your refinery?
jovial plank
hmm.. was it like that at level 32 refinery?
frigid jolt
I have lvl32 refinery and I get similar unc
vapid oar
Maybe not. I still get 7s and 14s. Got a couple all commons yesterday
jovial plank
@pallid compass yes, I noticed that change with Armada's a week ago, saw a level 27 and 29 with the same strength, I assume they're the same bug as with stations not showing the correct level at certain zoom levels and until you click on the station
vapid oar
Been a while since I was ops 32
frigid jolt
It is just luck
jovial plank
@frigid jolt well tell scopely to fix my luck because it sucks xD
jovial plank
lol thanks
pallid compass
Thanks @jovial plank
jovial plank
I've already contacted them twice and they just respond with a copy and paste message
vapid oar
Not much they can do. Rig refinery for one player, every other player goes nuts
jovial plank
that they value me as a customer who's spent thousands on this game and don't want to lose my in game purchases
jovial plank
Well that's pretty dang lame if they have player based luck
frigid jolt
Player based luck?It is just you having a bad week/month etc
jovial plank
What's the point of even playing when the account just has bad luck?
frigid jolt
One day you will get more unc than me 🤷♂️
jovial plank
Yeah well, it's never given me more than 27 uncommon with 4 rolls
and that's happened once
every other time I've gotten maybe 7 tops
vapid oar
Like I said, if they "fix" one refinery, news will spread. Other players will cry foul. We've all had bad luck in refinery. Just gotta keep plodding along
jovial plank
I'm telling them to fix refinery for everyone to where it gives higher chance of uncommon based on refinery level
frigid jolt
Then you are basically saying that give more uncommon to whales/spenders
Which will be received negatively
jovial plank
So basically just quit the game or suck it up, that's really great advice
frigid jolt
It is just your luck.Not Scopely's fault
Almost everything in this game is luck based anyway
jovial plank
I'm not a believer in personal "luck", but there's a pattern in this game that's showing and it's looking like real variables are at play and not superstition
And yes, it is scopely's fault, because they generate the numbers and have a poor algorithm for refinery
So what I'm asking is for them to fix that algorithm, and your issue about whales, that's not going to change anything, whales still run the servers and will continue to do so
But I'm not trying to say give the whales special services, but when you've spent a lot of money in this game, you feel cheated when it pulls stunts like this
How am I supposed to progress in this game without spending money, it's almost impossible, takes half a year just to get the material needed to upgrade one component, building, or research. If it weren't for the events, it'd take over a year
all because this "luck" algorithm is either based on player luck or a bad algorithm
vale sierra
jovial plank
<@&509690795536941056>
Regardless, I'm not spending anymore money in game until they come up with a better system that's fair for everyone and not what appears to be player luck or just a bad algorithm. The longer it takes them to fix, the more I'll have join me in boycotting the in app store to show Scopely we're serious and demand they fix it.
jade moon
👍
faint imp
Any chance Scopely would allow higher levels to get ships from previous lvl?
Aka Franklin? Being stuck at 80 bps on 90 kinda sucks, lol
empty dawn
This has been happening more often than not
jovial plank
Really don't need that uncommon refined material, nothing seems to want hundreds or thousands of it anyway.
Can anyone else not see the frustration here? both times today I've gotten this every day for months, aside from the occasional 7 uncommon in one material
So if this wouldn't make you mad at Scopely, then by all means, please have my accounts luck and see how you enjoy getting all common...
frank arrow
I had the above for 1 day last week even with the extra refine 4 rolls I got zero on each it happens later I got 40 uncs of each 🙈😅
jovial plank
Best bang for your dollar, get extra common!
@frank arrow unfortunately, that's what my rolls look like everyday... 
frank arrow
If that's all the time it's pretty harsh. Sounds weird but select the refinery in different order sometimes it helps! 🙈💩
jovial plank
@frank arrow I will give it a try, see which one gives more common xD
jovial plank
lol... I'd rather spend Latinum xD
frank arrow
I know looking for a silver lining 😅
jovial plank
lol thanks, I appreciate the boost xD
frank arrow
😉👍
jovial plank
I was considering buying the Prime Ore pack, but it's not worth the money, also I'm not giving scopely anymore money until the refinery workers start doing their job and produce that quality product.
jovial plank
maybe it's lower the more times you send alliance help or something
hallow pumice
It's all rnjesus nothing else
gloomy flint
That must be why I have sent 50% more helps than you, but get at least some uncommons from one of them pretty much every time 👍
I do wait a few seconds between pushing the buttons though, which may or may not actually do anything, but I find I get less identical results this way (jenky RNG is my theory).
hallow pumice
I got a pure uncommon drop of 33 uncommon gas from a single refine a few days ago
jovial plank
nice, or maybe it's the PVP count xD, or the resources mined
gloomy flint
Yeah, mine's more than your there too I think 😋
The RNG in game is pretty jenky in my experience. I never had results quite so consistently bad, but often 1 bad refine would mean 3 equally or very similary bad refines. Not very scientific, but someone somewhere suggested waiting for at least 4 seconds or so before pushing the refine button, and I do at least feel like I get better results (still garbage in there and never the real lucky ones, but almost never 3 lots of commons). Could just be the "lucky ritual" and just be in my head, or it might be helping to avoid the jenky RNG 🤷♂️ can't hurt to try though.
last nest
fake news
if you beleive thats a thing you probably believe that drinking bleach gets rid of corona
jovial plank
yeah, these ones I gave a good few seconds between because I was taking screenshots of the refinery, then the rewards, for each
last nest
the game is built to make you hate the refinery and give up and buy packs thats all
jovial plank
Ah well, it did the opposite and just make me hate the game and stop giving them money xD
jovial plank
true, but they're getting less now
last nest
each $100 pack gives them atleast another 6 hours of server cost while they rack in the profitable gains
jovial plank
well they lost 12 hours of server time from me today xD
gloomy flint
Fake news that the RNG in this game is jenky? Pretty sure that's a well known fact 😂
last nest
Fake news that a ritual of waiting 4 seconds or whatever would give better
vapid oar
Maybe if I stand on one foot
gloomy flint
Eh, I figure it'll help RNG not be so jenky, as it certainly does seem to repeat a little more often than you'd expect for random.. many times I've literally gotten the same results from each material type when refining same batch numbers.. but I did also say "could just be the "lucky ritual"", which is a reference to the various rituals some people swear by in order to maintain luck when doing an activity. Which at the end of the day how you choose to look at it is often the bigger issue, because by the time you're in your 30's you would have gotten thousands of uncommons despite the claims of them never dropping 🤷♂️ heck, stop upgrading your ships and you'll find a stock of uncommons waiting for you soon enough!
vapid oar
I stopped upgrading my station, mostly. Uncommons are piling up
hallow pumice
Lol, nice
I'll be stopping at 34 to take a epic ship to tier 4 or 5
I think I'll have at least 10k uc crystal afterwards, or a t8 faction miner
gloomy flint
Ships tend to take more 🤷♂️ generally it's the ship class you don't use that people will have excess of for example. Like if someone has no ore or crystal but heaps of gas (and so blames the refinery for favouring gas drops), they usually have a battleship main 🤷♂️
gloomy flint
Sadly I'm going for the D4, thing will never get to T3 😂
blazing venture
Hey guys how do you become trustworthy for a certain faction? Tia
vapid oar
@blazing venture kill hostiles from the other 2 factions. Or missions
blazing venture
👍
jovial plank
I got most of my uncommon from events, missions, and the store. but on another note, I tried a different order of Ore, Crystal, then Gas, I didn't get a screenshot of the ore, it was all common, but finally got some uncommon
olive wraith
@delicate sentinel <@&509691205798592532> why dies my saladin fly to babel across wolf and my intrepid a detour across the rom space??
jovial plank
warp range @olive wraith?
olive wraith
that's not the problem. i come to both systems with both ships.
jovial plank
yeah, but if one has to go through a system with a higher warp range, then it'll take a different route
slate magnet
When ever there’s a event where you can get uncommon material, the Refinery rate drops. That’s totally unfair when you try to get 800+ uncommon material. The droprate should be independent from the events
olive wraith
you have to collect much more from the uc material. 800 is a joke for that what comes
and also the outcome from the refinery is a joke
i'm lvl 35 and become more and more lesser material from it
analog dagger
A while back I loaded a post discussing my displeasure in a certain research item. That research item being “enhanced warp cores” research. If you take a look below…you can clearly see what the requirements are…right? Is R&D 40 what you see too? Well folks, that’s NOT the case. What no one mentions is that you need to be OPS 42 in order to complete the mission chain and have a ship capable of warp 80 AND be able to beat the “evil monster ship”. Well guess what folks? If you don’t have a monster ship yourself….that’s NOT going to happen. For all you folks that thought you might be able to save a few by not upgrading miners and doing that research…umm…NOPE. Guess what? You got duped!
I’m going to say this to you folks level 25 and up. When you hit level 38…you’re going to realize that going any further in this game is going to cost you….BIG TIME DOLLARS. When you hit level 40 (like me) you’re going to get a big slap in the face in terms of cost. There is no amount of grinding you can do to keep your head above the water line to survive…much less progress. Raiding isn’t a viable option either…because the folks that have the rss that could put a small dent in your upgrade cost have played the game long enough to know NOT to make a shield mistake. Your refinery gets no better…that’s even with the prime refines. Your rewards via events get no better via the things you really need…for example…dilthium. The only thing that increases is the cost of things you need to complete in order to advance and the cost of the repairs…and that’s WITH the research. For all you FTP players…there is NO such thing via this game. The odds of you making it past 35 FTP within a year or more is…well…let’s just say you have a better chance of getting great refines for the entire time you play. Glance through the posts…tell me how that’s going.
analog dagger
I felt compelled to throw you out a little cost knowledge in terms of upgrading ships and such. Let’s just say I wanted to upgrade my kvort to tier 8 from tier 5 with one item remaining to upgrade via tier 5. In terms of cost….it would cost me $800 or more to get my kvort to tier 8 base line level. For all you folks that covet the ISS…well…let’s look at that too! To go from tier 3 baseline...to tier 4 baseline….NO upgrades…it would cost me $1000 via the packs I have in my store time now. Yes…I said one GRAND. If I wanted to upgrade 1 building…it would cost me $300. Yep…that’s one building. For everyone that might throw the “didn’t do the cost research” wrench…well…YES..I’ve done it…its current.
And please....someone from scopely tell me....why on God's green earth am I getting horizon ...kehra me Kumari bps in dark space? They can't get there!!!! Please...please...put some thought into this game! Stop going around the circle with mining...hostiles....raiding bases...all the content is the same thing....over and over!
foggy tartan
@analog dagger I agree - the cost of every upgrade, building, research etc once you hit level 40 is... insane! 6.6 billion parsteel to upgrade 1 dilithium warehouse. What amazing things can you do with this warehouse? Nothing. The costs are just roadblocks, pure and simple. It isn't a question of FTP - forget that. It's an ever steepening curve of risng cost that begs the question "Worth it???" And I think even for the vast majority of spenders, at some point the answer is bound to be "No!"
vapid oar
They were pretty clear about trying to switch from pay2win to pay2advance.
Although a few are still willing to pay enough to "win"
Still I wish there was an excess bp clearinghouse
analog dagger
Well CW....I wish them good luck with that ideology ....either way....they will end up losing more than they ever would gain
tame sphinx
What. The. Heck, Scopely? You REDUCED the badges we get when we buy officer packs?
3 of each to 2 of each?
You take the rarest rss in the game - that can only be gotten with cash and make it WORSE?
Are you trying to get people to quit? Because if you are, this is a fine start.
There is no way at all I am buying that - I'd sooner quit.
cerulean mural
Right on @analog dagger Couldn’t agree more. Been 40 for awhile for the same reasons.
vapid oar
Previous ideology was capped at 39. Game over. Now it's a grind for everyone
last nest
all the people that keep saying the game is completely playable f2p are delusional or are just too low to not have been impacted yet.
gloomy flint
I mean, it is, but it depends on how patient and how you approach it.
Successful F2P should really lean heavily on minimalism.. minium required ship upgrades, minium required station upgrades
Get into a good alliance for extra resources, credits and help raiding.
And when you have big builds.. cheat the system a bit 😅
Getting to 50 would be a lifetime investment 😴 but high 30's with patience, planning and pushing for the higher rewards at higher ops level..
last nest
yeah spin that the game will be fun when your sitting at a level not able to push ships for 2 years
lol
gloomy flint
Fun is subjective. I enjoy the game despite the myriad of problems with it and the slow pace.
last nest
Fun, reason to play the game, needing to progress is how games are made
No other game would make you sit at a spot for years to progress if the game already has the material inserted
You can obviously see the problems once you get around 30 ish and the whole "wait it will get better" would just end with people not having shields by the time they actually implement anything
gloomy flint
What you find fun and how you play the game though, vary person to person.. these are subjective measures, not objective.
And there are ways to speed up progress a bit without spending money, though once you hit 39 it'll be snail pace it seems.
And mobile games are famous for locking players behind paywalls sand P2W models 🤷♂️
And who has no shields? I could shield 24/7 for 18 months right now 😂
last nest
Only 18 months so by the time you hit 39 then
and no clash of clans did not do it and other mobile games dont do it as terribly as this game
As sanitycheck stated yall just make up excuses for everything lol
gloomy flint
Depends how I wanted to play, but I'd be 39 before 18 months 😴 plus I'd have even more shields by then 😂
There are ways to play that can make some aspects of the game easier, just people prefer not to play the way 🤷♂️
And you guys are steadfast set in your opinions. I'm really not even sure why you guys play if you hate it all so much?
There are valid concerns and Scopely really need to make some changes and address issues, but you guys have a very polarised view and think that anyone who doesn't fall in behind you are just out of their minds. The world isn't black and white, there are more than two options, and there are multiple ways to approach and enjoy the game.
Yes, the game slows down dramatically as you progress, but that doesn't mean we suddenly can't progress any further without paying or that we have to stop enjoying the game.
And at the end of the day, it's designed to make Scopely rich by encouraging us to spend, and people spend just obscene amounts.. we're not the customers here, the guys in the private club with additional access that we don't even know about are 😂
vapid oar
Scopely kicked my dog
frigid jolt
@gloomy flint ah looks like you met with one of the most negative people in here.Just ignore,waste of time to discuss stuff with them
gloomy flint
But someone needs to balance their views out on here 😂
frigid jolt
🤷♂️
last nest
Says the one who is negative to feedback
jovial plank
I'm guessing not a whole lot of old school civilization players here where matches lasted months and were transferred over floppy or via email for each turn xD
What I'd like to see is firstly the Developers fixing the bugs in the game before adding features
last nest
Haha civ is fun they have love for everything they make
jovial plank
Refinery sucks and will always suck, so I'm over it, just gonna sit at 32 for a while, maybe sit at 34
@last nest oh man, should play each other sometime
what's sad in comparison is that the action in Civilization is faster than this game xD
last nest
as soon as scopely adds 30 day shield to alliance store ill buy 10 and probably open civ again 🤣
jovial plank
😂
next plank
Why is ship power higher when in the dock?! I thought it was a bonus for when someone attacks you base but checking logs, the ships drop to their “out of station” power anyway?
vapid oar
@next plank Base defense research
foggy tartan
Well, I'm not sure whether it's even "pay to win"? I'm at level 41, going to level 42 is "just" $5,000.00 away, to upgrade all my warehouses, drydocks etc, and do all the research. I can play the game without doing that - no problem. My dilithium warehouses - they sit there just fine without spending $600.00 to level them up a tad. It does mean the game is a dead end though - which is too bad.
Level 44, or a new car? Hmm... well, that's not a tough decision 😄
If anyone has any suggestions on how to "speed up" getting about 70 Billion parsteel, please let me know. I would love to hear about it. Those parsteel generators will do it in a few decades, but I might not still be playing in 2050 😄
next plank
@vapid oar but if it drops when you get attacked, what is it actually giving you?
vapid oar
Good question. It might be a visual bug. Mysteries abound in this game. Some I haven't seen an explanation for.
languid rose
Anvil got the same situation. Balancing 40+ is not tested if you asked me and also not sure if this will improve. Repair cost of g4miner are not fixed since long... sad that I can continue like that... kills the game...
Buy the car it’s more fun 😉
frigid jolt
@foggy tartan @languid rose if you are lvl40+ go to Nowonshall's discord(here is the link) and then assign yourselves lvl40+ role(if you cant tag me in there,I will do it for you).He will do a content/video/livestream with lvl40+ people about disadvantages/advantages of lvl40+ and how crappy it is.Maybe Devs will change stuff after that 🤷♂️
https://bit.ly/2BQvXnZ
foggy tartan
There are definitely advantages to being level 41 - I'm just shocked by the escalation in the cost. Other games, the amount of spending to advance stays about the same. It doesn't suddenly go through the roof, and into orbit. I wasn't prepared for that.
@frigid jolt thanks for that link
jovial plank
Apparently the game loses any purpose to raid and do any fun PVP after level 40. Costs more in resources to repair your ships than make any return on time and investment. The cost of upgrading costs in the billions, raiding that is impossible at higher levels due to players having better shield discipline.
frigid jolt
It costs 1b trit to repair T10 Tribune
jovial plank
and it takes about an hour to get a billion raided, would take 60 hours of raiding for one upgrade if you could find a steady source of stations with enough resources to raid.
frigid jolt
Lvl40-50 stuff is supposed to be a 1 year long content so stuff is expensive to prevent you from reaching lvl50 in a week like how it happened when game launched.People went to lvl39 too fast and got bored
jovial plank
That's just poor design
frigid jolt
🤷♂️
jovial plank
That's been an excuse for many games over the years, and has lost it's validity, it just comes down to poor game design and lack of community interaction and listening to feedback
foggy tartan
My days of have a billion anything sitting around are over. If it comes in, it goes out. I have 256k dilithium, and my base power is 80 million plus. Not an attractive raid, I bet 😄😄😄
frigid jolt
Ouch
foggy tartan
I don't think anyone is going to be getting billions of resources from raiding
frigid jolt
I have no plans for lvl40+ yet and try to prevent people from going there as much as I can.Maybe in 6-12 months it will be better but then why unlock lvl40+ so early if it is this crappy and expensive?It will just make people quit after seeing costs
foggy tartan
Well, I played Walking Dead Road to Survival (also Scopely) for a few years - and things did improve after a while. But a lot of people quit before it happened, sadly.
frigid jolt
Yeah 😐
foggy tartan
Basically - the first wave of players to reach high level flew smack into a concrete spending wall - 90% of them quit.
jovial plank
Well maybe they should add some features to the game that aren't lame and bring value to the game, like Armada's was a nice attempt, but not a very good one. would be cool to have things like,
- bridge view where you're controlling the ship from the bridge and not a birds eye view.
- ship racing, hit each marker and get to the finish line first
- mini games, such as some of the games they played in the TV series, do a spin off on those.
- officer combat simulator, have your officers fight others in hand to hand combat, whether it be PVP or PVE.
frigid jolt
jovial plank
just throwing out some ideas, but the current format of the game with the birds eye view is quite limiting so gotta think outside that format a bit to add features
reposted there
foggy tartan
The Walking Dead game had a lot of structured PVP events - and something like that would be fun. Ship battles and so forth.
frigid jolt
Yep
foggy tartan
I like the idea of a more immersive view of battles @jovial plank
frigid jolt
We want more PvP and new events 😍
foggy tartan
Real PVP - with match making, milestones, etc.
jovial plank
That would be great
frigid jolt
YES
jovial plank
would definitely give value to level 40+ players and something to do other than mining and the same events repeating
foggy tartan
It would happen on dedicated maps, with strategic points to capture, hold, or recapture - the entire alliance would be involved
Also, cross server war events - those were fun!
jovial plank
They use Unity to make this game, it's not hard, I'd be more than happy to build these features, I'm a game Developer (Artist, Programmer, and Designer), so give me a message xD
foggy tartan
I don't consider blowing up some poor guy's mining ship PVP
😄
I hope features of the kind being discussed are in the works, it would take the tedium out of the big slowdown in advancement
jovial plank
Yeah, the current "Go here, defeat that, mine this" is quite boring, only reason for playing is because it's Star Trek and the social aspect.
foggy tartan
At this point, yes - but I can imagine adding more dimension to the game that would improve it a great deal. Let's hope that's in the works.
cinder garden
I'm getting pretty burned out with all the events boiling down to spend money or kill lots of red triangles. There's very little aspects of strategy or skill involved in either..
hallow pumice
Would you want mining?
short owl
Server #160 has a very low connection response. Thank you scopely for marvellous experience
carmine charm
It would be lovely if renaming had a cooldown, some rogues have taken to renaming 5-10 times a day. I'd like not to need to check my block list 5x/hour to know whos liable to shoot me outside any RoE
next plank
Is there going to be a return of the officer exp events? The luck based shard ones are jarring. Even if they alternated them or something
vapid oar
They should be combined
gloomy flint
Or just run them both.
high condor
The new event layout.... horrible.
clever saddle
Should scoplay be spending more time fixing glitches we have rather than creating the opportunity for new ones
hot fern
Appreciate the intent of subfolders in the events, but honestly, they’re easier to view and navigate as one long row.
mellow galleon
Beating a dead horse...
This chest has been in the game since day one. It is a joke and a con for new players. I have bought many chest in the game from $19 to $99 and almost all give more than 2k lat. In my opinion Scopely needs to make this chest a real value or just get rid of it. It kinda insults players intelligence to constantly see it labeled “Best Value”. Heaven for bid someone accidentally buy it.
hazy shell
scopely math
vapid oar
3 days left! Where's my wallet?
hazy shell
cerulean yew
Hi
I hope you can help. Me and my friends are the leaders of four the top 20 alliances (KDR, GLX, PDA and VIPE) on one of your STFC servers.
Our players are encountering multiple incidents of being raided, despite 8 hour peace shields being in place at night. This is leading to their bases being completely emptied of resources. In some cases players are losing 100million of resources in one night.
Lots of our players pay good money to Scopely for this game but we are seeing more and more players decide to leave the game.
Affected players are raising tickets with your support team but I would appreciate a separate investigation. Players leaving the game will inevitably result in Scopely losing revenue and for us alliance leaders we are losing good players.
Your urgent review of game glitches and a response to this message would be appreciated. If these issues can’t be resolved I’m afraid I’ll be advising all of our members to find a new game.
Kind Regards
[PDA] AdmiralChrisMyke
keen bobcat
My event tab has just updated to the new subsection tabs. Go back to the old way how it wasnt simple before I dont know. It was a simple quick view and you could go back to playing now you are doing more searching for what the events are and what you have to do. No need for this to have been done when so many bugs still haven't been fixed
nova sierra
When will you fix the dilithium dilemma!?!? Lvl 39 and the research to build the 5th dock requires 49million dilithium. <@&509691205798592532> @delicate sentinel . You can't mine or generate anything reasonable....this is crap 😒
@nova sierra Time to get raiding! Do events! Daily Goals! All these things add up. Generating/mining will never be your main source of Dilithium income and isn't a flaw with the game.
You don't see it as a flaw, I do.
stuck delta
I get most of my Dil from combat missions, though admittedly they are only a one time deal, and requires your ships to be of a certain power level able to take down the hostile captains. I guess the only other way is to raid someone for it, but even then its a lottery if they are at home.
carmine charm
Problem imo is that they overdid the base buff
main pilot
Boo to the nested events layout. Yes, the list is long but you figured out a way to make it even more inconvenient <@&509691205798592532>
nova sierra
Sub menus as a quality of life improvement is an oxymoron. If you want to trim down the event tab put completed/expired events in a sub menu instread
wind nebula
Its getting really frustrating with those officer badges.
Why, f2p player is limited to get one of each. Or if one goes dual faction, two (given getting enough rep each faction)? (Maybe there was an event of sorts that allows getting another.. maybe, dont remember though)
What is real way of getting them other than paying in one way or another?
Grinding 10 years to get into epic armada and sell your soul to RNG and maybe will get badge?
Its an issue for really, really long time, and its with time incerasingly more infuriating.
vivid nebula
New event layout sucks, more inconvenient to view new events
elder ocean
The new events menu is terrible - there was nothing wrong with the old one - now I have to click back several times just to get back to the game - a much better feature would be crew setup - create a crew group that you can easily select when you want to use them, the UI should be easy to use not made harder why do you keep adding more levels for the menu - it started with the rep event and kept going
stuck delta
@wind nebula I agree here 100% They also need to make them available through PvP combat (LIKE THEY SAY IN THE DESCRIPTION!!!), or rename the description to say "Bought from the store for £100 a pop!"; saying you can get them through PVP is just plain Lying!
carmine charm
I agree both on the current event layout being a step in the wrong direction and badges needing to be (at least at a slow rate) be available F2P in an unlimited fashion
wind nebula
I tried to get them. I need someone show me screenshot you can get them via PVP to make me believe its possible
tribal bane
Really not sure how many officer shards you think we all earn per day but the officer upgrade event is kind of lame if you don’t alternate it with exp that gives you shards or ship upgrade events doing the same
simple axle
How can it be right that a L36 2m 1701 can crack a base of a L26 with barely a scratch. They’d have cracked at some point but 1 hit what the actual no wonder our servers crammed full of dead bases
nova sierra
If scopely is intent on keeping this new events layout, could we please get a vertical scroll for these cards? Opening the new sub menus adds to extra clicks which isn’t... good from a UXP point of view
elder ocean
instead of creating nested menu systems - please add an option to remove this annoying banner
elder ocean
At level 32+ we need tons of UCC and RCC yet events pay-outs are minimal and the Refinery is a joke and have been since I started playing the game even the overpriced packs don't provide enough to want to purchase them
hallow pumice
I get that much uc crystal at 28, definitely don't get as much rare
elder ocean
to upgrade one gun I need 90 rare lol
£200 = 1 gun mmm ripoff - why do they keep putting sale for the store but all the prices are the same this is a sale price lol
hallow pumice
That's a cheap upgrade, probably legionary by the looks of things
Stuff only gets worse overtime
dull heron
Assuming this is not true? Anyone ever see one from pvp?
vapid oar
@dull heron They should really change that. Never seen or heard of it happening
tall veldt
My god the epic armada prizes are not worth the $100
Scopely....why should I buy more if all you get is 5 bortas shards and some uncommon gas?
You'd think prizes should match spend a little bit more?
The elite rewards pack has tons of 2 star stuff I will never use... So it's another silly purchase now
How about selling things that are feasible to players needs?? Just a thought
elder ocean
look a new pack with loads of 2* that I dont need lol
oh it ok I just need to spend more money wow £100 for all this
tall veldt
34k latinum... Which pack is that @elder ocean
elder ocean
this one on sale lol
old plover
Put the jelly pack in the store for level 39s on server 140
hazy temple
Pretty sure all the 2* stuff is so you can build lower level ships with all your collected useless bps.. level them up and then scrap for better RSS.
Always got a vahklas/kehra built and leveling to scrap to add to the stock pile.
It's a massive grind though.
cinder garden
Why is this research unlocked at lvl35 when there's no practical way to get the g4?
elder ocean
deuce did a video on it
frigid jolt
Or Nowon 🙂
nova sierra
Aye maxing and scrapping 26s is definitely reasonable way at 35...not
At 39+ sure but at 35 all those uc and rare g3 are needed everywhere else
cinder garden
how many mfers (mayflower, honest) would i need to crap to get 150 g4 rare?
frigid jolt
@cinder garden 1 T8+
cinder garden
hmm, might get round to that - cheers
cinder garden
Nice - don't have the g3 to spare yet to try it but i'll definitely be doing that before i can mine g4..
frigid jolt
You need to level it up as well,dont scrap it before it is fully leveled.I have a maxed Mf but only lvl40 😅
cinder garden
bring back the ship XP events - i've got a bortas waiting to be levelled too i finally farmed the BPs for - only 7 levels too late!
frigid jolt
Or they can just add ship exp spend to current events.Because I think current events has better rewards but the way you score points can be much better
cinder garden
I do like the trit and par from current events but they need to add something for dil and gas
frigid jolt
They can change building events 🤔
They are still old ones which cant be finished unless you have a turret ready to build
viscid crescent
spark vale
Dear Scopely, I know that leaderboards and event leaderboards and such are limited to 100 items. do we really have to carry over this arcane limitation to bookmarks too? I can't possibly bookmark uleful systems for swarm, borg, augment, faction hunt events, and all the bases I plan to raid and fit it all in 100 bookmarks. Please consider lifting this restriction, it would be greatly appreciated! ;-)
daring widget
Package Suggestions. I was hoping that someone take a look at the package structure. One in particular is the monthly package. Right now when you redeem the token you get several resources. My problem is that we get grade 2 resources, at lvl32 I don’t need any grade 2 resources. Can something be done to increase the amount of common and uncommon resources. Also can we add rare grade 3 resources instead of having any grade 2 resources. Thanks.
verbal knot
When 39s can hit 25s with no hope of retaliation you know this game is all about money.
I will not be spending another dime until some element of fairness is brought to this so called game.
spark vale
I consider it fair when I help drain a 41 as a 29.
weak adder
@last nest but the all powerful shield is a wonderful equalizer
Not even a lvl 49 can get through one of those
hallow pumice
Depending on the server, a shield doesn't help, especially when it comes to mining
verbal knot
Shield is not an equalizer when they can kill you but you can't kill them that's called sanctioned bullying.
We all don't have 10k to become a level 45 overnight to combat them
frigid jolt
10k wont be enough to get to lvl45👀
empty dawn
You will need 50k to start talking about Ops 45
I wouldn’t mind having 10k to throw at my research and ships at 29 tho
empty tundra
what exactly are the chances of the special refine? I 've not missed a day on special refines since they came out. And not a single special transwarp core.
1 have receive 5x 1 mil trit tokens and the rest transwarp cores.
twilit slate
This "working as intended" is total BS, I am a level 36 player and the "Golden Week" pack arrives and instead of the two G3 packs, one for $79 and the other for $159, I get two $79 packs, one is the expected G3 pack and the other is a G2 pack, which is useless to a level 36 player. Logged two tickets and get the, everyone's store is tailored garbage speech and not one bit of help. Scopely lost my money - not spending it on the $79 pack and they won't give me the expected $159 pack. Look at my store, I mostly have $159 packs to buy, so that would mean that this should also have been there, once again poor coding, and poor customer support.
glass sundial
I’m a level 27 player and I can’t attack anyone below 20 yet I can be attacked by level 38 😡 this stupid
oak grail
What’s the golden week pack? We don’t have that on server eu134
dawn nexus
It’s an Asian thing afaik
nova sierra
golden week is a 5 day public holiday in Japan, i think higher levels are seeing the g2 pack due to an error in the targeting of the pack, i don't see an ultra level pack available anywhere...
stuck delta
Either way, those packs don't even cover the cost of one gun at T6 so an easy pass.
hallow pumice
At t6 for what?
cinder garden
Any chance the dil rewards for combat training 41+ will be buffed? 70m for 40 captain was nice, bit of a let down after that!
cerulean belfry
Please fix the bugs
twilit slate
@nova sierra Hey Phil, others in the alliance have the higher cost pack available and no G2 pack, so yeah, looks to be an error, which I pointed out - but it is "working as intended" apparently, total bs 😡
mighty ravine
,Get your stupid idea gone from the shop trying force People to buy high+ over Priced Packs
and give all people the same Monthly Packages to buy instead just 50€ plus shit
sorry but it making me mad 3rd month in a row the same things
@twilit slate smells like you answered your question its self
viral nest
nova sierra
Dominian or Terran empire are some factions that would really change the game
Would enjoy those
Borg doesn't cut it
vivid nebula
Funny how notifications work fine to sell u stuff, but get raided, forget it 😂😂
echo venture
I know it‘s maybe posted several times but in my opinion the franklin need a revamp. it‘s one thing to limit the growth with those frequency modulators and I’m fine with it but you should get the feeling if you grinded several weeks for a single part that it was worth it! The weapons work great if you upgrade that but the shield only increase your power score of your ship but it changes nothing to the battles fought. At my tier 6 the weapons all increased the amount of killing 28 by 5-6 or lvl 30 by 2 but the shield after all grinding these 400k of modulators did nothing not a single lvl 30 more...
stray crane
Scoply - please fix the refinery returns. today I refined 1750 crystal and got 20 uncommons. I also refined 75k gas and 75 ore and got 14 uncommon for each. this is a persistent issue. How have you programed the system to do this! I fully expect a it's working as it should based on blah blah blah response though...
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errant smelt
👋 I'd like to know how Scopely expects me, a level 25, to defeat high 30 players with Enterprises
nova sierra
$'s
errant smelt
Did they really design this game and early on think "how fun would this game be if we forced 9 out of 10 players to shield their base and only let those who play the longest or pay the most play pvp, mine, etc."? 😆
nova sierra
Next question
errant smelt
🤷♂️ gotta give 'feedback' somewhere
nova sierra
They have gotten a little better at giving f2p a path forward but ultimately they only care about you if you are spending.
A prime example would be officer badges and their availability to non spenders (spoilers: it's effectively zero).
errant smelt
Yeah I only got 1 Borg officer, already figured I wasn't going to stand a chance at getting any event badges once that much was clear
nova sierra
7 day and 30 day loyalty chests need to be reworked to reflect all the new content (g4, borg, swarms). We haven't had a serious rework since d'vor bp's were added to the 30 day loyalty chest
empty tundra
Who makes all these mistakes?meanwhile the mods and admins holding the frontline in the verbal assault department.
those coders never read a single comment I think.
I think a dev was on this discord for about a few days and he got so much hate slung at him that he mysteriously disappeared shortly after joining here.
In other words all the people actually making the decisions that leads to all your hatred of scopely and the coders that make all these mistakes will never read your comments.
The seething vitriol gets filtered out of your messages and replaced with a friendly suggestive dialogue filled with buzz words.
fervent goblet
There should be a “dev on call” on here to actually answer questions, if done right it would lower the frustration levels a lot when most of the time all people want is information.
empty tundra
there shouldn't cause most people would call them just to tell them to jump off of a building. They shouldn't be allowed to walk around in the raw unfiltered psychosis of the internet.
granted the mods will do their best to screen the calls. but some cray cray person will get through.
fervent goblet
I meant “dev on call” to mean through a specific channel in STFC discord and not a voice channel! That way it can be moderated.
hot fern
WHY are you tossing d'vor blueprints in epic armada packs? The ship is cheap and available with 30 day chests. What a slap in the face to save epic credits only to get a single d'vor blueprint.
cinder garden
Both epic chests i've opened so far contained hijacked ship blueprints. That was a slap in the face at ops 35 - and not even enough to build the damn things!
hallow shadow
I was trying to search star trek dry dock and found this image which exactly shows how it is made in this game, but is it even possible at some point to use multiple ships at one dry dock?
brave stream
The "2nd Choose Your Event" survey was announced as running until the end of May 1st... "maybe" the deadline should be set... it is just mid May 1st in this "side" of the globe and the result were released...
sage shuttle
can you (Scopely) really make a big effort to fix the client stability issues
- Click upgrade on ships loads an image of the ship but no menus (current workaround close game and reload)
- Fix menu opening lag (no workaround for this)
- Fix the random crash to desktop
- Fix the error when you target a ship in the same system where your ship is docked
- Fix chat menu lag/timeouts (workaround is to close game and reload)
hollow pike
Crash to desktop? If you’re using bluestacks, that’s not officially supported as far as I know
outer blade
So what the heck, yesterday I routinely take out two lvl 30 swarms with a nice sliver of health left. Today I can only take out one??? I got teomin, collected a rsch for an interceptor upgrade, and now I can't kill two swarms? Why???
scenic plaza
I'm not getting the correct points for using combat ship on this list is there any thing that can be done about it?
sage shuttle
@hollow pike it does it on my tablet (android) too
scenic plaza
That is the franklin it should be 9 pts.
scenic plaza
K.
daring sphinx
No May reward pack offer for me? Punishing me for buying capture packs is not a good way to keep me buying... Fire whoever came up with the bully algorithm and open up the store. I'll be playing for free now.
torpid hamlet
Anyone know if there is an intention to add something between the 40 and 60 systems in normal space? Otherwise combat training becomes only possible for whales who, lets be honest, don’t need em! While we’re on the subject of combat training is the level 41 broken? Got around 1/10th of the rewards compared to the level 40 one.
inland fossil
the scout respaw are ridiculus low, make it better I take some time 30 minute to a respaw to them drop no menssege
errant smelt
The rewards for rare armadas below 29 are too low. You're effectively forced to save those directives for later.
nova sierra
You should tbh...the rare and epic boxes are 💩 until you are high enough ops to filter out the junk bp's offered
errant smelt
Sure, but I have no insight in that whatsoever, what I do know is they're too low while being the only ones lower level players can participate against
So maybe the boxes are crap, but you also don't get many if you can even get one after participating
The chest buttons should be bigger and there should be a button to collect all at the same time
The dailies also need bigger buttons and a button to collect all
nova sierra
Save your rare directives and especially your rare credits at least until useless horizon bp's disappear from the boxes, save the epics until at least lvl36 when jf bp's appear
@errant smelt 👆
errant smelt
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind @nova sierra
high igloo
The sound effects can get annoying and I like to watch Netflix while I play so I have then muted. It would be great if there was a little vibration if someone is targeting your base or ship rather than a red screen or a few red circles around one of your ships. If I'm looking away but my screen is on, I'd like to opt into a way if knowing I'm being targeted
Also I don't think you should be able to 1 hit crack a base, it should tske 3 or 4 hits because if the victim is on, it wastes their time and speedups to repair ships.
At least make it challenging. I can 1 hit crack up to level 26 and it just isn't fair to them and is too easy for me
Fix the broken nodes and give us more g3 nodes please. You just moved them for lat nodes and it's really frustrating.
craggy egret
@high igloo base defenses were upgraded a few months ago, they are far more effective now than they used to be. people used to one shot bases with survey ships and walk away with a full load all the time. At least now it takes a fairly high powered warship to do the same thing, they don't carry hardly anything so it's not as devastating a loss unless you happened to have all of your ships sitting at home.
high igloo
@craggy egret ik they upgraded but I still think it's too easy
craggy egret
it is for the level 27s and lower, for everyone else it's actually pretty effective.
if it gets beefed up any more only the most powerful will be able to do any raiding at all.
if you know you can't defend your base, don't bother trying, just shield when you get hit...or stay shielded as much as possible. defense platforms are cheap to repair, ships are not.
high igloo
It should take 3 or 4 hits of a warship to crack a base. Not 1
craggy egret
It does take most people several hits to crack a base, even the low level ones. unless they're undefended. that's why most people keep one ship home.
frigid jolt
I can crack up to lvl30s in 1 hit if there is no ship inside
high igloo
@frigid jolt congratulations? That's not the point I'm trying to make
frigid jolt
just pointing how easy it is if you have good ships.Actually that fact should support your point 😂
high igloo
@craggy egret it takes me 1 hit to crack a level 25 maybe a 26 with all ships home. That isn't fair to them.
@frigid jolt it just sounded like you were just bragging
craggy egret
it all depends how good a ship you have, and ho well defended the base is. if you've got a highly upgraded ship, yeah you can crack a fair number of undefended bases, especially if you aiming for the abosolute low end of your pvp range.
high igloo
@craggy egret you're supporting my point. It should take more effort to crack.
frigid jolt
Just shield.There isnt much you can do to protect against big boys 🤷♂️.That is how the game designed.Yes we have these cool turrets and base defense research but they dont really do anything if you are offline.Maybe give you a little bit of extra seconds to log in and shield but you already have 10min auto bubble for that.If you are on then keep repairing your turrets and you will cost them more rss in any case
craggy egret
I can one shot a lot of level 25 and 26 bases too, but again, they're at the minimum end of my pvp range.
yeah @frigid jolt that's a very common tactic these days
high igloo
@frigid jolt sure you can bubble but again, that's not my point
craggy egret
turrets will destroy virtually all survey ships
frigid jolt
You are asking from them to change core mechanics of raiding.That wont happen,especially if current situation is creating profit for them
craggy egret
They do, up to a point. there comes a point where overwhelming power is...well...overwhelming.
high igloo
@frigid jolt I'm just asking to make bases stronger
frigid jolt
Which will make raiding crap again
high igloo
@frigid jolt no, it will force you to put in some effort
frigid jolt
We barely survived first wave of balancing
What effort are you talking about?
Clicking buttons isnt effort
high igloo
3 or 4 hits instead of 1 hit crack
vapid oar
Most repair trolls will still press the help button. 😎
high igloo
Wow I'm talking to a brick wall
craggy egret
the game has never been particularly fair to lower level players, a lot of improvements have been made, but there's still a huge power discrepancy from one level to the next.
fixing the power discrepancy would make a bigger difference.
frigid jolt
You gotta feed from low levels at one point.You cant have whales without dolphins or other small fishes
high igloo
@craggy egret thank you, I am just pointing out where those discrepancies lay
craggy egret
they lie in the ship power from level to level, not in the bases themselves.
high igloo
@frigid jolt why not give the low levels a chance?
frigid jolt
Their chance is shield 🤷♂️
craggy egret
that's about it.
frigid jolt
Or keep repairing turrets and kill their traders
high igloo
Oh god
craggy egret
Shield or share.
frigid jolt
How can a lvl28 kill a 6m Jelly?
vapid oar
This happens too...
frigid jolt
That is impossible even if they make it stronger
high igloo
Wow you are missing thr point
A level 28 shouldn't be able to 1 hit crack their lowest level they can hit
frigid jolt
But a lvl50 should be able to do that
high igloo
I'm not talking about 6M jellies
frigid jolt
?
frigid jolt
You are saying make this stronger for low levels while leave higher levels as it is
vapid oar
I'd cross out the names, but snipes posted it himself
frigid jolt
That isnt balancing and wont work
high igloo
I don't understand how this is so difficult for you to understand
No, it makes 1 hit cracking impossible
Raiding is still possible
frigid jolt
Can you raid lvl40 bases now?Yes.Is it easy?No.Will you be able to raid those if they make bases stronger?Definitely no
We will go back to before rebalance days
Where lvl39s shouldnt have to shield
high igloo
Oh lord
You really don't get it
I am so sorry
There should be an EFFORT for everyone. It would be harder for small as well as big players
frigid jolt
You are thinking everything is so easy.Just make this 10x stronger and boom everything is balanced
No there will be other side effects
craggy egret
we're saying yes, extremely high powered players should be able to one shot bases at their absolute low end range.
high igloo
I'm not saying 10x god you're thick
waxen ginkgo
Here is the hit on Towbot
high igloo
I'm saying just enough for it to be harder
craggy egret
it's actually pretty good where it's at right now. you want easy, hit low, you want bigger rewards, hit higher.
high igloo
How are you not able to understand?
craggy egret
it's not fair, but it's about as balanced as it can possibly be without being completely broken.
high igloo
What I'm saying is pretty clear
craggy egret
it's clear, but you're not understanding how much it would break the game. we understand just fine.
high igloo
Whatever, it's impossible to debate with people who clearly cannot understand.
last nest
🥱
high igloo
@frigid jolt yes you are correct, there are side effects
vapid oar
Why does it matter if it takes one hit or 2? Not losing rss to miners anymore was the whole point of hardening bases.
frigid jolt
Shielding is hard?
last nest
Not really a side effect 50s should only be hitting 9 levels below
Just like every other level has 9 level range
high igloo
@vapid oar so people won't lose all their ships and have to spend hours/days repairing
@frigid jolt sometimes it can be... Ik players who just don't have enough shields
frigid jolt
Then they dont know how to play 🤷♂️
craggy egret
just take away all possible viability of pvp. sandbox games are fun right?
frigid jolt
🤦🏻♂️
high igloo
@frigid jolt wow you're so thick
craggy egret
it's a pay-to-win game. that explains it all.
vapid oar
Days repairing at lvl 25?
high igloo
Hours OR days
frigid jolt
It would cost 3 hours at max to repair a ship at that level
vapid oar
Not getting oneshot by a miner to steal rss is the point
frigid jolt
My ships at lvl34 dont even cost days
high igloo
Oh my god how thick do you have to be?
craggy egret
This conversation is over. feedback has been given, reason has been ignored. bailing out.
high igloo
It takes days to repair 4 or 5 ships in total
I don't understand how this is so difficult for you
last nest
they bought repair pack to lessen timers etc
high igloo
You can bubble during the 10 min timer, but if they don't get any rss, it shouldn't take all your ships too
frigid jolt
Then bubble before they hit you
high igloo
Oh my GOD you don't get it
frigid jolt
They give 2 7 days shield every 2 week due to Covid.Use them if you dont want to be hit
Plus you can get more from dailies
high igloo
Sometimes you have to play pvp and you're vulnerable. All your ships shouldn't be taken out in 1 blow
It's pretty simple and I'm sorry you can't understand
craggy egret
Me crush silly wooden triremes with mighty steel clad battleship! simple. 🤷♂️
high igloo
I appreciate those 7 day shields. They're quite helpful, but it's sad how ignorant you are to other players.
cloud surge
copper girder
So I have played the game for almost a year and a half, and I have come to the conclusion that it is designed to make you hate and despise the human race. Understand that I come from online games like world of warcraft where pvp is a choice and you can obtain new items or resources with pvp but you cannot lose anything by engaging in it. If you compare the 2, the differences illustrate what I am saying.
First of all, when you are offline you are not in the game and therefore not subject to pvp. You can allow yourself to play the game casually and still not have the unpleasant surprise of opening the game with all your accumulated resources gone.
Let’s take mining, in wow nodes take 10 seconds to gather from, which means it’s an active part of the game, like killing hostiles and you are not exposed to pvp unless you want to. If you exclude being there first. Having to mine over hours creates tension among the players and brings out the worst in people.
But the worst of all is that, despite this complete pvp focus of the game, there is almost no way to damage an online player or to defend an offline one unless you spend hours watching the screen. This leads to even more frustration. I mean if I could have put a shield on a friend base overnight I would have slept many more hours in the past months.
This design leads to a game that compels you to be always on, that fuels anger and hate between people and inevitably promotes the behavior of the few sociopaths on the server. I have never seen anything like that in 15 years that I have played wow. Never! One would just have to compare chat content between the two games to see the stark difference.
Some of this might have an economic effect. If you are angry you are not going to spend too much thought about the value of the pack you are about to spend 100€ in. Overall I believe this design is doing a disservice to the game. Many frustrated players will eventually leave, both normal and sociopaths.
It also very distant from the Star Trek franchise which feels like it has been slapped as an after thought on a preexisting game model.
cinder garden
I'd agree, but you can also have great fun pretending to be offline if someone does come to crack your base. Bonus points if they don't notice when they've taken your ships out and you start repairing your defense platforms between attacks..
formal stag
ok devs,i been waiting 3 days for another gold sms officer daily event...what gives?i need 3 stupid exp unc ship parts to upgrade warp to 75..
frigid jolt
Wait a little more
hallow pumice
It's random, they usually have a week in between officer events, and so forth
hallow pumice
Yeah, but usually they appear in cycles
You get a few officer events then they dissappear for a week or such, then they start up again
quasi aspen
Yes, we are using language to communicate the huge inequalities and inequities of this FARCE of Gene Roddenberry's vision.
Its nothing more than a money grab by inducing frustration, rage, hate, and vengeance.. both by the players against each other, and from the development team.
quasi aspen
Plus, omg. You are censoring my couple of frustration words, but have you SEEN the cesspool of Galaxy Chat? Sorry, cesspool is too nice a word. Reports do nothing, not even sure why that feature exists. It's filled with toxic masculinity, sexism, XXX-rated comments, and the minimum age required to play this game is What??
"Take this game and shove it. I ain't playing here no more."
vapid oar
Roddenberry was naive. Have you seen the Abrams movies? Try to watch them anywhere without paying.
And the new Picard series? So many whining about the dystopian aspects of it. I think it's a more realistic vision, but that's just me.
formal stag
thanks for the replies..last week there were 6 or 7 in a couple days
i hate being patient but i like my money in my pocket,not scopelys anymore
copper girder
@vapid oar I watched all of the content in the Star Trek production from TOS to Discovery and Picard. If you label naive believing in elevating human society above the material needs and the greed that dominate todays economy, then he is naive. I enjoyed the new movies, like I enjoyed marvel movies, nice action movies. Same goes for Discovery.
The implicit message in all of these is that the Federation view, from TNG and Enterprise, fails, that human nature is irrevocably evil and that we cannot conquer our demons. I do not believe this. I think it reflects the current pessimistic view that the majority has on society due to several historic events.
Picard is differt as it show one man, idealist to the core reconquering his mission and goal and reestabilishing them in the federation.
But enough of this. My comment was on game mechanics, and on how they are engineered to annoy and anger people and pit them against eachother. The effect is brutal. Anyone playing the game can see it daily, and if for you this is normality, its not for me. I rather have a gaming experience where the level of hate, insults, strife was minimal and everyone have fun.
Call me naive....
vapid oar
@copper girder Yes. Naive. We live in the present. People are flawed. We shouldn't have our heads in the clouds. If you really watched everything, you'd know the utopian vision became more aligned with reality over time.
The game is designed around competition and conflict. It exists in the real world. Sometimes it's too close to reality. Insisting on you're idealized view of the future won't change the nature of this game or it's players.
Lecture me if you have to, but I live in the real world. It's all shades of grey here. 🖖
copper girder
@vapid oar "My comment was on game mechanics, and on how they are engineered to annoy and anger people and pit them against eachother. The effect is brutal. Anyone playing the game can see it daily, and if for you this is normality, its not for me. I rather have a gaming experience where the level of hate, insults, strife was minimal and everyone have fun."
I don't want or have to lecture anyone. I did not ask your approval, nor your comment. This is the feedback channel. I seriously do not understand what are you trying to achieve. Do you believe the devs do not have arguments to defend their game and need you as paladin of their vision? Do you think that I need to be lectured on the nature of reality or filmography? I undulged you once because your comment was simplistic and dismissive.
I have no further interest in your opinions. My feedback is for the devs and they can do with it as they wish.
vapid oar
I didn't comment about your massive post. I didn't even read it. I just don't like people throwing Roddenberry's name around and expecting everyone to act the same. I don't have any interest in continuing this conversation either. @copper girder
proven ridge
I support @copper girder , I constantly see rude and nationalistics statements, sweep mine system by pirates... My attitude to the game becoming negative
I click report button on them, but nothing happening
autumn echo
Please please move the banners back up and off the damn screen! It's infuriating the amount of times I press a banner rather than the screen! Each time I do it in a system I lose all screen information and just see blank ships. And if evading a hunter I get killed in the time it takes to get back.
I don't know what you moved them in the first place! Stupid idea
In fact, best thing would be to be able to switch them on and off!
vapid oar
Because they blocked access to chat. Especially bad when they got stuck. Now they're in a more neutral location and you can swipe them away if you're fast enough.
My issue is with hitting the bookmark button when I zoom in.
autumn echo
I really don't care if it blocks chat, it's far more annoying to press the screen at the precise moment the banner pops up and you hit the banner instead
Just happened to me evading a hunter and I got killed
vapid oar
The "button" extends to include the name of the system for some reason. It's annoying.
You should be more careful. You know the banner is coming. Try to stay farther away from hunters.
autumn echo
But I don't know when the banner is coming because of the extreme lag sometines
vapid oar
Ok. You also know where it will be. We all deal with it. And yeah, chat is important sometimes.
autumn echo
All true, but hit and miss! It is a general feedback channel, so I'm feeding back!
A switch to turn them on and off would be an improvement for me!
We do all deal with it but it can be avoided!
I don't need condescending remarks while I'm feeding back thanks!
vapid oar
I told you why they changed it and gave some feedback on a different issue.
You said you don't care about the reason they changed it and now you've become hostile.
No need for name calling.
frigid jolt
autumn echo
I didn't call anyone a name
frigid jolt
It isnt changing back,position we have right now is good enough.They changed it after players asked for it🤷♂️
autumn echo
I didn't ask for it to change, I asked for switch to turn it on and off...
frigid jolt
Then you should write in #💭-suggestions
And yes you did asked for them to move banners up to their old position
autumn echo
Ok that's not what I meant, I have made request on other channel! Thx
copper girder
I am seriously amazed how people feel compelled to explain why feedback is wrong. Its called feedback. The banner is annoying, thats a fact. I would disable it if I could because when I am grinding it covers all of my phone screen. And when you grind on 4 ships timing is important. So can we please STOP explaining why the feedback is wrong? If someone comes here with feedback 90/100 he does not want to get a workaround because 1. he knows that already and 2. its not good enough.
empty tundra
im having a stupid argument with a team mate, he is saying that you have to be level 10 to attack other players, but I believe you can get attacked by other players under level 10 if you are mining a node, if you are not mining and say you are lvl 7 you can't be attacked.
stuck delta
I'll be honest, I think it was level 10 but they may have changed that since I was level 10...
velvet yoke
The game is good. But, I wonder how you handle system crashes. Within this day I have 5 restart of my phone thinking it was my connectivity, but, other application was performing well. I have lost 200 latinums just to repair my ship because a hostile have caught with it, and I can’t do anything, because the game has forced me out and forced restarted. I have lost mining nodes due to 0 nodes, and my ship could not mine, because the system has crashes. Worst, it is not only a day, this has been this past 2 weeks.
I like the story line, and I grew up with Star Trek as my childhood science fiction story. But, I can’t play the game with this system crashes and failures. I hope something to be done. I could not finish game milestone properly. So to all the Technical Support, and Game Developer, let not this failures make this game a loss.
Hope to hear from you! - JeanLukePicart
icy hinge
Game is pretty much unplayable today due to lag, freezes and crashes.
broken delta
Your servers suck. Why don't you fix them? Game freezes data retrieval all the time.
still bay
Resources and advice for players being bullied in game. Resources for mental health advice. [historical request]
rustic belfry
no, that's your tech, not theirs tingulwen
oops, wrong name. p24651050
get your ducks in a row before pointingn at someone else's face, y'know?
nova sierra
Geez you think the company would fix the game lag. Can't even attack hostiles more than once per ship without getting the timer counter stuck at zero, and then have to reset the game... And while your at it get rid of those annoying pop up victory banners they are entirely unnecessary
craggy egret
the lag isn't really scopely's fault. it's the fault of millions of people stuck at home all day and streaming movies etc. Also blame the loss of net neutrality.
vapid oar
I like getting 10 min shield warnings 90 mins after I pop my shield and 30 mins after I put up a new shield.
I guess it's the thought that counts. 😘
craggy egret
you're lucky you get any warning at all, I haven't gotten a single one since january.
don't even get armada notifications anymore.
junior frost
Scopely, I really appreciate the work being done on the menus and so many have gotten way better. However, while the experiment with the extra depth in the Event menus do box in things nicely it also causes a lot of more clicks during the day, and during emergencies it's stressful that there's extra time to get out to the systems view.
I frequently go to the Events to monitor my progress and it is by far the Solo events that I view most often. Like now when there's a Faction Hunt on and I need to monitor how far I am with the various factions. I check the ALBs' a lot less.
So perhaps all the Solo tasks could be prioritized so that they are the first I see.
Burying the Faction Reputation even so far down - when you have to Join to get it going - is an extra frustration. So a close second priority would be all the events that require you to Join before you can progress.
nova sierra
When is the Franklin event coming?
fading wing
suggestion: make the global leaderboards for power destroyed and resources raided, etc... reset monthly/quarterly. Consider rewarding more power destroyed points for fighting similar strength or higher strength opponents and fewer points for griefing ships well below your level.
versed island
I'm getting very agree about the fact that I have gotten 3 Borg artifacts and every single time I got Parasteel! It's a joke that it's even in the possible options for the trouble to find a Borg trader ship let alone get trash for your trouble! Please! Take the Parasteel out of play when cashin in the Borg artifacts!
orchid oak
Scopely, you could review the pricing policy and adapt it for each country.
We live in an economic recession due to the corona virus pandemic, and the packs price in Brazil are very high. I believe that lower prices we would have the opportunity to purchase more and more.
warm plover
Thank you for starting to give rare armada directives as prizes!
warm juniper
BONUS REFINERY PLEASE, anytime is a good time lol
cyan moss
In reference to a mention above. Why not just remove surveyors from counting as power destroyed or make them only worth 1/10 the points that of a war ship
slow nimbus
@delicate sentinel Love the 12hr shield changes and know you got a lot going on today, but wish you announced first then changed things. A bunch of us bought a ton of 12 hr shields when we saw they were on sale, but we just got the notice about the daily goals changes. What a waste!
high igloo
Finally! I have been asking for this shield change for a year! I finally emailed them LAST NIGHT and they changed it today 😂 hmm makes you think how effective this discord chat is
fading wing
Hooray for overnight shields! I've also been asking for this on every single feedback survey, even when it's asking for feedback on some other thing! 🙂
While this is bad for raiders like me, it also will be huge for players overall mental health.
high igloo
Agreed
vague gazelle
If the 12 hour shield is on top of the daily shields already provided than this ruins the game completely.... this means everybody gets 24 hour shields from dailies..... completley unacceptable!!!
By doing this you take a huge aspect out of the game.. raiding !!!
If you want to keep a healthy server situation better make sure you balance it out in a different way. At the moment ally event rewards ensure people from the top allies with enough points to buy shields etc. So the big guns are protected anyway. Sure being a big ally should come with benefits and rewards but atm small allies or single players getting hit stand no chance. And they most likely will quit as a result of being continuous raiding targets...
I would suggest you balance the game (because raiding is a awesome and important part of the game, and fun 😈) in another way. Increase rss production for people who just got raided or with low resources. Maybe there are better ways of balancing out, but giving everyone so much shields is just stupid...
if you sleep and work and dont have much time to play you should have a way to keep progressing despite being bullied down by the big guys and big spenders... not saying that somebody only playing 1 or 2 hours a day should reach the top but the current updates change the gameplay in a way it shouldn't
high igloo
It's still possible because people forget to bubble, that's the most common thing that happens when people get raided. Or they let it run out
rough lotus
Great change to the 12h shields ♥️
high igloo
Ideally, they would have changed the 8 hour to 12 hour, but this also works
nova sierra
As someone who doesn't raid all I can say is takes deep breath hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
weak tundra
A 12+8+4 means players can shield 24/7 just by doing daily’s
high igloo
that's what usually happens
vague gazelle
I agree 24 but atm they only make big ally pvp and server pvp more difficult. The big guys already get enough points to but shields so it already depends on people forgetting or falling asleep. Adding more will only make server diplomacy and enforcing of it harder... make sure you support the single players and small allies to get up on their feet fast again bit dont ruin the game into pve grinding for lvls to no end
weak tundra
Why even allow base raiding if you prove 24h shields to every player who does daily’s...
high igloo
when you get raided, is it because you don't have bubbles or is it because you forgot?
topaz heart
So here is my big complaint. Some of have been here since this game started. We grinded it out for hours. No complaints. Just did what we had to do to survive and move up. Now scopey is making it easier for all the new people. They are dumbing down the game.
high igloo
@topaz heart it's harder for the new guys because the big guys are too powerful for them and hog rss for them. It's a pretty simple economy.
nova sierra
It's tapping reds, mining and gang banging sleeping stations...how much dumber can it get really?
weak tundra
👎
high igloo
I'd appreciate more strategy to this game, there isn't much
weak tundra
Adding shields makes for less strategy
topaz heart
Agree
last nest
high igloo
@weak tundra you are ignoring what we're saying
vague gazelle
So make it easier for low lvls to catch up or for people with low rss to recover, dont ruin the gameplay more.... this is what happens when you have a p2p game from the start, completely unbalanced
nova sierra
If this game didn't have a star trek skin it would have died in pre release
weak tundra
Im not
high igloo
Some people have enough bubbles to stay shielded for 24/7 but still get raided
vague gazelle
Amen dyspeptic
weak tundra
I’m aware of that, but we shouldn’t be handed shields for 24/7 shielding...period
topaz heart
Adding shields and making faction events easier is a dumbing down of this game. We all took our licks.
high igloo
@weak tundra you aren't handed anything, you still have to work for them
nova sierra
The game is already dumb...there is no down
weak tundra
Doing daily’s....whoop tee do
topaz heart
Might as well give everyone a enterprise.
vague gazelle
@high igloo if you call dailies work then enough said ...
weak tundra
Now PvE players can just happily live in a bubble. Why even have a pvp option
topaz heart
Bubble star fleet.
nova sierra
It's a mining game with a very thin pvp veneer
vague gazelle
It's a mining game with pve dailies with a very very thin pvp veneer @nova sierra
nova sierra
You want pvp go play rainbow 6 siege where your victims actually shoot back
tardy dew
This update has got to be the worst one ever let’s take away the whole pvp game except killing others miners
high igloo
If you don't like the game, then stop playing.
oh lord it isn't taking away raiding how many times do I have to explain it
nova sierra
There's no skill here, just targets of opportunity
vague gazelle
If the game completely depends on hoping somebody forgot his shield something is wrong
high igloo
It already does
nova sierra
How else do you raid them?
high igloo
People rarely don't have enough shields already
they are giving 2 7 day shields to everyone every 2 weeks but people are still being raided. How is that possible?
So technically they are giving around 48 hours per day
vague gazelle
Yes and If you dont hit anyone for 7 days than we shouldn't even talk about pvp shouldn't we
nova sierra
How to raid
1, pick a target
2 wait until he forgets to shield
3 profit
Nothing has changed
vague gazelle
Atm you get an 8 and a 4 so it's a decision when to put them. That's why people forget because he has to make a choice and then forgets compared to oh wait I have 24 hours anyway I'll just put it up
high igloo
They don't have 1 day shields, they have them split so you still have to be on to do bubble
nova sierra
high igloo
@nova sierra there's no helping these people, they won't understand
nova sierra
I was supposed to be helping? Damn I was being sarcastic
high igloo
Your sarcasm is right though
Most people who have rss to raid have enough shields but forget to do so, all this means is younguns have more, but still have every opportunity to forget
tardy dew
That’s why I said there should be a cool down period on shields as then it gives a better chance for pvp and raids
high igloo
@tardy dew that means that even if you get hit during this cooldown you cannot bubble
Not a good plan but I see where you're coming from
tardy dew
Yup
high igloo
You cannot defend yourself if you get hit
tardy dew
Even if it’s a cool down period of an hour or two.
And u can defend ur self hit the incoming ships or heal ur ships
That’s the whole point of station defence
high igloo
And if you're a level 20 against a 24?
They can't defend
or 24 against 36?
Nope, there is no way you can defend
tardy dew
And then u get ur alliance involved so more people help
high igloo
Or bubble
tardy dew
O yeah more active people god dam what a silly thought
fading wing
Base defense is 100% biased to the defender. If you are home, you can defend successully in almost every case
tardy dew
It’s like now. Everyone in alliances getting hit some of there players send ships for defence
high igloo
I have maxed Kumari, Vahk, and North Star, I cannot defend against a level 36
fading wing
The attacker has almost not chance to succeed if the defender is home unless the defender gets a bug or loses connection
tardy dew
The living under 24/7 shipped is just stupid
fading wing
Here's one tip - cycle your repairs. Keep 2 ships up and one ready to repair. When you get the attack notice, repair the broken one
Keep doing that
high igloo
Or bubble?
fading wing
If you need a break, put up a shield
There's almost no case where a defender can't successfully defend against a single attacker.
For any range
high igloo
The shield cool down is a terrible idea, you cannot defend yourself from the maximum player who can hit you.
tardy dew
But even if they had an hour or two cool down would get alliances working better together instead of just sending help requests
nova sierra
Cooldown period is dumb...alert during a meeting, can't defend and can't shield due to cd..no thx...alert middle of the night have to stay up defending for an hour because of a dumb cd?...no
fading wing
I don't like the shield cooldown so much. I do like the idea of a hostile action shield timer, which would prevent someone from shielding for a short time after taking a hostile action.
high igloo
@fading wing a level 24 cannot defend against a 36.
fading wing
I believe a level 24 can defend against a level 36
high igloo
They just can't.
I am level 24, having 3 maxed ships and none of them can defend against a 36.
fading wing
I think you don't know how to defend
nova sierra
A 24 can slow down a 36 but not stop them
nova sierra
And when that 36 is hauling away 1.5mil+ per hit they don't need an hour to empty you
tardy dew
U guys need to go back to FarmVille or the PlayStation what u can pause or switch off when u wanna go to sleep
high igloo
All the 36 has to do is put a warship next to your base and hit between every one of their hauls
There is no defending that.
fading wing
I believe that if you took my level 36 account and I took your level 24 account I could defend successfullly.
high igloo
Cooldown won't work
Let's do it. I have been playing this game for quite some time, I know exactly what I'm saying.
patent bolt
More peace shields🛡 ??? Seriously?
So it’s FarmVille now.
Players can’t organically get needed steel for higher OPS levels.
Thanks for killing the game entirely.
R.I.P stfc 🖖
true sapphire
Scopely, you greedy bastards, why the hell do you need to nerf Chen?
high igloo
@patent bolt read above, it isn't as bad as you think it is
fading wing
It's actually really good. I think this will lead to more people staying with them game and not giving up because they got raided when they overslept 15mins
patent bolt
Now everybody will use 12h shields over night ....no more morning raids
high igloo
How would you defend against a Legionary and 3 faction surveys with a max kumari, vahk, and North Star?
tardy dew
And it’s gonna cause more people to leave cos they can’t raid the res they need to grow. So back to farming
high igloo
@patent bolt the reason for this is people need 7-9 hours of sleep a night with 1 hour away from screens prior to sleeping. This is recommended by doctors for people's mental health
true sapphire
Nerfing Chen means more resources out of our pockets to complete events, means they’re amsqueezing us for even more dollars. ZERO positives with this update. Only greed
patent bolt
People can also get longer shields from ally store..but now the last retard will bubble up
tardy dew
And a better way of scopley making u use ur cards for the res since it’s gonna be almost impossible to raid
high igloo
People can still forget to bubble
They are giving 2 7 day shields every 2 weeks, people still get raided
fading wing
The 12 hour shields were too expensive to get them regularly, unless you are in a top alliance. And even then, they take a bite
patent bolt
Every building costs like couple of million of steel.....now ops 36+.....for f2p you can only raid to get rss
high igloo
Yup, you have to raid people who forget to shield...
patent bolt
@fading wing exactly .....so if fools don’t plan it right, they get caught of guard .....good loot
high igloo
That's how it has ALWAYS been
tardy dew
Back to farming for he g4 bps that’s are stupidly expensive to upgrade now with no raids
fading wing
Getting a healthy night's sleep isn't foolish
high igloo
@fading wing, I'm still curious how you would defend against a 36 at level 24
tardy dew
No it’s not but how long do u think it takes to mine 2.8 bil trit just for one gin upgrade on a ship
patent bolt
I mean 12h shields .....notifications......10min Auto shield 🛡 after attack....it’s too much protection who are not able to pay attention
high igloo
And some people fall asleep and forget to bubble
patent bolt
It’s a PvP game ...you need to be able to raid about 500m steel per week to progress
tardy dew
Yeah u have to prey on the drunks that forget haha 😂
high igloo
It happens, last night, some guy with 2B steel got raided
true sapphire
I need to raid or purchase 5 billion parsteel just for the level 40 operations building. This parsteel total doesn’t include all of the other buildings just to be able to build level 40 ops. This update will make it harder to raid and harder to complete events, so only way to progress is to continue paying
high igloo
because he forgot to shield
fading wing
I think we all agree the raiding mechanics in the game are really bad. You can only raid someone if they make a mistake. If they are home, it's impossible to raid someone unless they have a bad defense, and even then they can always shield. If someone is away, they lose everything. That's just - not fun. I raid every day, and I wish for better base raiding mechanics. But given the way the mechanics are, allowing people to get a full night's rest without losing everything is good
high igloo
@fading wing you can't defend against a raid if they're the max who can hit you
patent bolt
Yes..of course ....but most of my raids are in the morning before going to work....you almost always catch somebody off guard ....now that’s will be no more ...or very reduced .....forcing players, who don’t spent the big bucks to quit because they can’t progress without buying packs
high igloo
Then chose a different strategy pirates
patent bolt
I can afford to stay up all night .l have a real life with job and family
patent bolt
So when can I raid now? .....it’s very rare that somebody is not shielded during normal evening hours
high igloo
Doing so is damaging to your health and can cause severe problems
@patent bolt when people forget to bubble. As it always has been
fading wing
@high igloo my strongest miner can't get through your ships. I suppose if you encounter a maxxed out faction miner it might be able to? You are right that level 24 is the absolute worst example. You are exposed to a full pvp range that is difficult to deal with until 26. If a 36 attacks you with a epic he can get... 50k per hit?
If you cycle your repairs properly you should be able to defend against the miners. But again, i'll agree, level 24 should have a reduced PVP range on the high end.
high igloo
Okay, sure my warships can kill their surveys, but that will get back probably 50k when they took 1-2Million
patent bolt
Obviously, I will not stay up longer .....but taking away morning raids it’s a huge blow ..... if u look at other games there is much less protection .....PvP games are about raiding and fighting for resources ....
fading wing
You don't attack their ships - you cycle the repairs so there's always a ship defending
never let them hit all your ships in one attack
high igloo
@patent bolt people's mental health is more important than your raids