#💬-general-feedback
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it's been more than 2 hours but nothing has changed
<@&509691205798592532> good afternoon, what is the drop rate for rare crystal from the lvl 22 refinery? Am I EVER going to get the 1 rare crystal I need to tier up my NS? Literally been refining 2 batches per day, every day, for 2 weeks and not 1 rare. I didn’t even get 1 rare in the last bonus refinery event doing double batches.
1:1.000.000. with bonus refinery you have good chances if you go 3 times for a 150k batch.
1 in a million. 😂
@west plinth do you know if the drop rate improves with a lvl 23 refinery?
All ok
not much. at lvl 25/26 it starts to drop uncommons more regularly. getting rare stuff almost never happens without bonus refinery. i'm at lvl 27 at the moment.
@dry mortar
Eesh. That is really rough
Bring back the old PvP rules please
It is now virtually impossible to find a node
Agreed nodes are like a rare commodity for many players now, you can’t even fight for one
I am level 25... a lvl 33 can hit me but I can't hit a lvl 20... that is just fucked up.
At least your not 17 with all g3 nodes covered by 20+
And base raiding is garbage too
<@&509691611903426561> - I just spent $150 on the Franklin and cannot kill a 32 and get a single point for event, PLEASE THANK THE TEAM AT SCOPELY FOR WASTING MY MONEY! I will not be buy any more pack from this day forward. I have just been scammed.
@abstract ocean the event doesn't need you to kill swarm. The event is to earn the Franklin. Since you already have the Franklin you don't need to do the event
How about rewards? How about something to actually do ingame for a change? How about a return on my investment? I've had it with Scopely's cash grab, this is the last straw..
Right! My point is why buy the Franklin when you it by doing the event you were going to do anyway
Thanks Rugged, sound advise, that's real constructive. Cheers.
@abstract ocean the purpose of the event is to get you the Franklin and a bunch of uncommon materials.
You already have the Franklin, so you could still do the event to get materials. Those are valuable.
But the Franklin isn't supposed to kill normal NPCs, only swarm NPCs. And the level 32 swarms, if that's what you're talking about, require a seriously upgraded Franklin to farm effectively.
Did IQ's suddenly drop on this channel!? I already said I cannot achieve ONE POINT with the T6 Franklin, I just wasted a bunch of money and I'm furious!
I cannot get any rewards, only daily, which I could have got with my faction ships...
@HotSh0t#0166 YOU DON'T NEED TO KILL SWARM
It's funny how 2 people that actually understand what's going on try to help and he accuses US of having low IQs lol. Don't bother trying to help that guy. Moving on... 
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That's like buying a botany bay, then complaining that it sucks at doing the missions that give botany blueprints
The whole point I invested money in the Franklin was to be able to kill level 32 swarm, but I cannot, just regular hostile, I wasn't talking about normal NPC's
I get that, but there currently isn't a need to kill level 32 swarm, unless your dailies are asking for it (mine are capped at 30, ops 29)
Based on the level chart they posted I'd expect a t7 to be able to kill 1 or 2, Phil's t8 can do 14
T6 fully leveled with kirk spock might be able to kill 1
well my guess is you have to get it to whatever tier is recommended for it to be effective
so to kill swarm 32 effectively it needs to be T9... 🤷
How exactly am I even supposed to get to a level 32 system? Scottly is in warp 40, so again, not 1 point is achievable with this joke of a ship
In this case, use your normal ships
@abstract ocean #557163704383438850 for more information on the PvE event.
So whatever faction ship you usually farm hostiles with
so what was the point in spending cash upgrading this JUNK? Am I missing something big here?
@abstract ocean I think your base is in a warp27 system since those systems are actually warp26 (don't know if it makes a difference for the franklin though)
It'll allow you to complete additional dailies thanks to its damage boost, low repair costs and time. Furthermore, allow you to harvest materials required to refine and exchange additional tokens.
and TBH I don't think it's worth spending money on it, especially when you can get it for free by completing events that gives you normal rewards as well
whether I will actually use and upgrade it is yet to be seen
If you rather use other ships for that, you're free to. It was never advertised as a high-tier/end-game ship.
I guess I'm the fool for thinking that spending $150 would add something to my game. I should know better by now how Scopely works, my fault entirely.
@abstract ocean A quick look at the ships-section would've given you an indication of its power.
Thanks the gods you're here John to poin these things out...
actually that just tells you T1, nothing more... at top tier it seems to become more "powerful" than the Kehra...
@abstract ocean Well it appears as if you didn't know any of this so I figured I'd at least get you some advice for the money spent.
If you want to advise me on anything, you tell me to stop wasting money on a company who doesn't know how to look after it player base. I love the community, think the game has great potential, but Scopely continue to let everyone down. It's sad.
Ok let's try this, did you level the ship up to max for T6? And which crew did you try with? Can you post a battle report so we can see if it was close or if the ship is actually underperforming?
@wicked jetty I think it's pretty obvious that you need a T9 franklin to effectively kill 32s
at least that was one point scopely clarified in their announcement...
35s?
As @nova sierra indicated
dailies for 32 are kill 32 😛
for the 34s? 😉
Guess so lol
and well anyway a T6 isn't a T8
No
But my t5 cent can kill a level 32, so I wanted to see if we could get a T6 Franklin to do so
It's great at everything except standard hostile farming lol
although a T5 cent is probably more powerful than a T6 franklin (minus the bonus damage of course)
well I just got a sally, so first going to level that up, then think what's next
could be a lego or a cent, or grind for bortas BPs
Grats on the Sally!
I think the cent is a better compliment than the bortas personally, Saladin can deal with battleships and explorers, cent explorers and interceptors, bortas can't deal with the interceptors
And is slow
And the Sally hostile farms well enough that you don't need the bortas for that
yeah obviously hostile farming is the pain point 😛
what crew are you using on sally? same as Kumi?
For farming, bones uhura harrison
Let's me one shot lvl 35s
Pvp I swap to gorkon for rng goodness, and to let my cent shine with full kirk crew
I don't have harrison...
Then same as Kumari
And play around with damage vs mitigation
Because if you can get it down in that one round that's best
yeah I'll have to do that in a couple of days
got enough RSS/mats to take it to T4 but also want to maximize on the faction rss events so taking it "slow"
Hello - there aren’t enough 3* mining nodes now that the levels you can hit have been adjusted - we can’t clear many off empty mines and there are nowhere near enough of those nodes as it is.
The pvp range sucks. As a level 23 i can go as low as 20, but a level 31 can hit me. In what world can a level 23 take a level 31? Pvp range should be +/- 2 (maybe 3) for bases and +/- 7 for mines. Simple. As it currently stands, i am getting rocked by massive players and the only people i can reasonably hit are lvl 20 to 23...base hits are almost impossible. Even with 210k NS i have a rough time on properly built lvl 20 bases.
Guys, I have grinder for months through the high teens and low 20s, my base a raid target to players much higher than me the entire time. Now I can actually raid those bases and you take that away. Used to be able to hit down from 25 to 18 and now I can’t hit below 21? THREE levels of rebalancing? You just figured out that’s not fair? Not sure what I paid my dues for and now not sure I have a reason to keep playing. You did nothing to rebalance the economy. I need millions in parsteel to advance out of level 25 and raiding is, by your design, the only way to access those materials. Now you’ve made raiding significantly harder. I’m not mining 4 million parsteel for a vault, sorry. That’s not fun. Don’t know what you were thinking.
Whales whales feed the whales let's all feed the whales! Come on folks lets feed the whales in the great Star Trek meat grinder!
@granite torrent I think the rule with mines is no limit on active miners, period. I think bases should be + - 3 until22 and then scale up to + - 5 to keep ultra high levels from hitting down too far.
I was totally fine with +/-3 at low levels, seemed pretty fair...until i learned that higher levels got a wider range and started smashing me and I couldn't do anything about it. +/-3 was fair for everyone early on, it should be fair for everyone for the whole game.
I'd be pretty upset if they kept me from raiding level 34 bases (I'm 29)
Punching up becomes a lot easier at this level range, but yes they didn't go far enough to limit punching down in the low to mid 20s
And in some cases they went too far. Low 20s are a mess now in what they can no longer hit
low 20's pretty much cant hit anything, it's all the same power level. in the meantime we are all getting smashed by 32's who are one shot draining us with superpowered horizons or faction surveys.
Punching up is extremely rare. virtually everyone hits equal or downwards due to the huge power discrepancies at higher levels.
well at 24 I started punching up... becomes easier at 26 with horizon
there's nothing rare about it, as long as you upgrade your ships before you rush ops...
It's rare because virtually no one does it. I've heard several people talk about upgrading ships, it's fine in theory but not in practice. the materials just can't be acquired fast enough. It's not about rushing ops, you've built everything else, there's nothing else to do. Having super aggressive alliances on your server who wont let anyone even compete in events doesn't help either.
well putting aside specific server issues, the fact that you finished building everything doesn't mean it's time to level up
it's possible to punch up from time to time, but only if that person has no ships home and hasn't done their defense upgrades.
and no it's not rare, our alliance is doing it quite often
you've finished building everything, that's exactly the time to level up. If you wait until you can upgrade all your ships you'll be level 14 all year.
well it's not about upgrading all your ships, it's about making sure you at least have one ship to do the work you need to do, let it be events or raiding or pvp etc.
I want to be on your server, sounds like you guys have it good.
yeah, that one ships is almost always a premium ship. they're good. and really expensive to upgrade.
lol yeah our server is in peace for the most part, a lot of alliances signed up on some sort of ROE and generally not many EMKs going on, at least not on the higher levels...
well to be fair you can just invest in NS for the early 20s, after that Kumari until 28
yeah we get mass killings every day, constant battles over mines, whale alliances locking out all event rewards, and 30+ players sweeping through every hittable base in every system.
I didn't even do many raids until I was 24 and still could manage fine
we in the 20's are lucky if we find a single base worth raiding, and if we do it's very likely 10 other people are jumping on it at the same time.
I probably started mass raiding at 23 to get enough trit to upgrade my Kumari when the time comes 😄
up until then generators/events was more or less enough
I haven't seen a base with raidable trit in over a month. used to be able to get enough par to work with from abandoned bases, but with the pvp changes that's not possible anymore.
It's basically hunt hostiles or mine...and better watch your hostile hunter cuz as soon as it gets over protected limit someone WILL come after it.
We're pvp heavy. no one believes in peace.
babysit miners or they're gone. even on the g1 resources.
folks really love to pump up that power destroyed stat by mass killing miners.
It's brutal but it keeps the game interesting i guess.
lol sounds pretty horrible to me
So, in order to tier up the Franklin, I am going to have to kill roughly 6,000 swarm ships. Methinks the modulator amounts need some tweaking
you also have the 3 dailies to kill swarm
which you can't do without a tiered up franklin 😄
Yeah @humble heath. I’m gonna kill level 32 swarms, each at 3,000,000 power, with a kumari
well how many 28s can you kill with your Kumi? and how many do you need daily?
i said i;m doing with my kumi
if you have to kill lvl 32
then you have faction ships
i need 8 lvl 28
ohh ok not too bad then, I need 20 😄
that's 8 repairs or i can kill those that are low
and 10x30
I have a Centurion. I’m not killing 10 3,000,000 power ships with a Centurion
so you can kill one per repair? not worth it if you ask me...
That’s the strongest ship available to me and it maxes out around 900k—which I’m not close to yet.
it's not worth but when i find almost dead ones .. those are worth doing
900k vs 3,000,000
that's the problem with rushing ops
yeah almost dead ones is better lol
i keep finding almost dead ones :))
but even then the rewards are somewhat miniscule
they add up
found 1 almost dead and 1 at half hp, got both and repair my kumi after 6 to go now
will try to find in the two systems more if not ill leave for tonight when the new event starts
so they count towards alliance event
well alliance event is 2160 in how long? seems weekly which is a bit insane as it could probably be done in a day
well it says "weekly"
the cap is too low then
2160 bio stuff to cap it for an entire alliance
sounds fishy
in a week? yep
I didn’t rush ops.
I finished every research & building upgrade before going to 30.
how many can you kill with the cent ?
Pls bring the old pvp system back
It was nice to raid with my alliance
Now we can not raid as a alliance
Of the level 32s? Zero.
They’re three million power. Proudly could only do that with a maxed Enterprise
he needs to pump up that franklin ship to the max !
T8 is good enough for 32s
for lvl 28 what T ier is recommended ? 6 or 7 ?
Probably 7
@nova sierra but that’s the problem. I’d have to hit roughly 5,000 of the highest level ships i can just to hit t5. It’s a little unbalanced.
it's a tad heavy on the frequency modulators to upgrade i agree
Yeah. I’m not expecting to be able to get it without working for it—it just needs a wee adjustment.
The good news is I’m getting plenty of relo tokens from PVE boxes 😂😂
i got one yesterday, didn't know if i got it from swarms or klingons as i was multi tasking
Meh there’s nothing to raid out there anyway
Galaxy’s broke
Only thing a base raid is good for now is leveling ships
This PVP change is BS. Level 24 and I can only raid 20+ (used to be 18+) but the whales can still raid me. This change makes no sense. It benefits the FTP players only and the spenders are all stopping their spend. Every one of them I hear say they are not spending another dime or they are quitting the game.
TBH this pvp change is long overdue, I would have actually kept a much stricter range even at higher (30+) range, but this is better than nothing. Raiding a base lvl 18 with a tiered up Vakhlas or NS was just unfair. Basically making low level players either spend everything or shield 24x7. There are other reasons to stop spending (like the game being over at lvl 34 and unfinished) but this is not one of them.
So I’m a level 24 and in order for me to get parts I need to hit level 24hostiles
My strongest ship is 79k in strength
How the hell does scopely work this 💩 out
191k strength for a level 24 effing jokers
Ok sum it up for you the g2 mines are all littered with level 18/19's on zero nodes.....before the pvp change it was easy for us to come along and help out an ally to free up a node for the younger levels cos lets be fair if your level 19 and you have a survey ship cruising the galaxy for a node there's NO way you can hit higher level than yourself and not leave yourself open to be an easy target for someone else. So now we have low level players unable to ask for help from those of us who are higher because - I can't hit more than 2 levels lower than my own level! SRSLY! 2 levels! Everyone else from what I can tell can hit 3 levels lower.....so why can I only hit 2 levels lower? I'm not impressed I've always been the weakest in power and strength because the server ballooned in players at a set level - me being smaller and puney I was easy prey until the EMK (empty miner kill) rule became enforced - I was constantly funding repairs and not anything else - now I'm finally at the level they were hitting on me the rules have changed and whilst I have respect for those lower level than myself - there's like 10% of the server that actually are lower than me- this new mechanic doesn't stop level 9's from mining 3* gas NOR does it stop the server from being clogged up with inactive players sat on mines that are on zero, by removing the ability for us to deal with the situation ourselves you are effectively undermining the mechanics we put into the game to balance it and make it fair.
@velvet nest You don't have to hit swarms for that event, normal hostiles work fine.
@slow bramble thank goodness for that lol
Is there anyway to get help on here? I've got a support ticket but to no avail since this morning, the events aren't working for me at all
The franklin takes far too much frequency modulators at low tiers to upgrade. I'm lvl29, and can't get my franklin past t2 without farming boatloads of low level swarms just to upgrade it to farm high level swarms.. all feels like a little bit too pushy towards buying a pack to fix a problem you created.
@cinder garden you have ship xp maxed out?
yeah
@jade drift For instance on my server it allowed to mine at all. Before it was impossible to mine more than 15 minutes without uselessa agression which completly disabled ability to play. To point where lot of players left the game.
@cinder garden hrmm... Maybe since you are lvl 29 it's better to take some good interceptor or kumari 😉
How bout limiting idle time in the swarm systems. Keep getting the "too many ships present. Try again later." Error message. Problem is with servers being so regional, most players are on at the same time. When you finally get into the system, there's 100s of ships idle and you're lucky to be able to actually hit a hostile.
This sounded to be honest like our server was like dead with handfull of players left ;-; Not seen that error message. Yes, system was lagging a bit but not overloaded to point of error message...
Need help from someone from scopley on why my officer shards are gone.
Oh hey out of repair speed ups (this is NOT gameply). And back to watching repair countdowns for their full time. Yes I do my dailes but those repair speed ups don't go far at all and again spending speed ups IS NOT GAMEPLAY
<@&509691611903426561> Hi guys! J/c if you guys have a reason I haven’t thought of to continue rewarding 2* mats to lvl 25+ players? I buy the monthly elite packs... and I have not once used any of the 2* mats that come with the pack. Open to hear if there’s a valid reason but I haven’t been able to see one.
More 3* please!!!
How do we call the update a balancing??? Me as lvl 22 can only hit 2 lvls down while a 29 is still able to hit me . Or is it Scoplys bank account balancing to stimulate to use a credit card ?
Maybe worth some better rewards from hostiles as these are never gonna get used again 🙈
Make the 1st gen faction ships bps drop more. I have maxxed rep killing ships and stuck on 82 saladins 😭 Let me scrap the 3k khera/valk bps for the rest and I will be fine
@desert gyro Description of your server would be good!
Feedback: USS Franklin is a terrible ship.
It’s even terrible for the event it was designed for!
- An example of an amazing ship? Envoy
Accessible, affordable, and does the job for many levels.
Most players would be happy to own an armada of envoys
Franklin? I’m not even sure I want my 1x any more - Affordability
Franklin is a 2x if not 3x limited resource ship.
Modulators - whoever designed the scaling for this? <swearing>
Uncommon/rare - seriously? After the millions of modulators? This tanked my ability to upgrade my actually working centurion
Tritinium - for f2p, this can be a huge roadblock
- Usability
I wanted to like the Franklin.
It was a ship designed purely for a pve player / pve event.
Instead after hitting swarm ith it, I am just underwhelmed.
It barely hits above the belt, and for a?x29 bonus that is just false advertising.
If it had something like a self heal or incease in item drop rate, now we might be talking.
Instead it does less work for more cost.
I agree @red path a lot of rewards, especially 2* vs 3* for higher level players needs to be looked at again
My mistake, removing lol
Today might be my lucky day. See my latinum count. lol
@panic for any future times, Never ever take down events that give us facrion credits. New events may bring shiny new ships or rewards but factions ships and other facrions items are our true goal in sight. I have stopped upgrading or research due to the daily faction event being taken down temporarily. which btw was announced to be 12 hours and we are certainly past that.
So this Beyond update, and all of these new events, and the Franklin may have generated a profit for Scopely, but it seems to be very underwhelming for the players. This game maybe very close to being on life support.
For those who get the “system is full” message there is a quick solution to help everyone:
Keep trying until you get in, and then MAKE room for others! Pew pew pew!
i'm afraid to go into those systems :))
i kept spamming till i enter to do those chain quests and out asap !
@ocean stratus it means it's base inspection time!
I really can't believe what a poor excuse for a pack the "Limited Time Repair offer" packs are, and how we continue to support this game... Its taken 7 months of grinding to get my faction ships as well as some $$ along the way. Sure some people have spent a lot more and gotten them faster than I, but this was a tangible goal I had been working for. I'm happy with my ships, I don't love the repair times but I cope with it, but you are basically saying that its worth $100 to be able to repair one ship about 25 times. Sure you get other resources with it, so its not all about repairs, but for $100 we should be getting a month of unlimited repairs, or ability to repair at multiple docks, or something thats actually substantial and worth $100, not the ability to repair a time or money purchased ship 20 some odd times, that is absolutely ridiculous.
How about we undo the horrible changes to PvP, that literally took zero feedback from the community before implementing?
What was the pvp like before?
Fix the PvP back to the way it was is #1
Then stop gaming us with these wasteful AI created purchase packs. You can't even tier a ship from 1 $99 pack which should be a minimum. Stop robbing us scopely!
Some responses to our feedback would be appreciated. This feels like talking to a brick wall. @delicate sentinel @tepid nimbus
I Propose that No users should buy anything at all tomorrow just to make the point to scopely! And see their revenue go to zero for a whole day! Who's with me?
@cinder garden Agreed!
Our server is probably the most peaceful server. You can even sleet on a 0 mining node for more than an hour even if yuo have excess cargo. But base hitting is legal. Only few players regularly do base raiding on our server.
@delicate sentinel please explain to me how I’m top 10 in power on my server but can’t complete the event??? Why do you CONSTANTLY get the weighting’s of these events so wrong.. it’s totally unacceptable
@thorn phoenix you have to spend more money😂
🙈
Scopely has decided it is time for me to uninstall the game. It does not work on Bluestacks after forced update. Bye bye.
Oh well done, I can now play the game on my phone as well as my iPad. Thank you so much for your help
There's a typo in Yuki Sulu's officer description, it incorrectly references Hiraki Sulu instead of Hiraku Sulu. We might need to take the servers offline to ensure this is fixed.
@ashen magnet use Nox
I don't trust Nox, will not use it
you can disable all that Chinese data collection in Nox
Did they reduce the droprate of crates from npc? I just killed 30 and had 5 boxes...
Top level in system has much better drop rate than bottom level in system
Ye ive noticed drop rate has dropped
@nova sierra yes, take down all servers, and don't have any notice abiht it as well 😁
So I am not the only one. And the reduction was significant. At this rate farming npc is no longer a valid option.
Obviously not enough people using latinum for parts or buying b
Packs
On the contrary during hostile events it was possible to earn millions of officerexp... and of course the obligatory envoy blueprints...
With this new drop rate no chance for that
The level thing is completely messed up. Currently being level 22, I cannot attack a level 19, but I can be attacked by a level 30! There should be no curve at all. It should be +/- 4 levels, keeping the barrier for no base attacks below L15 and no ship attacks below L10.
There has got to be a better way to keep L30+ players interested in the game. The setup before the level change was just not right. It is now worse, and you have created reasons for players not to level up.
otherway around... they gave you good reason to level up so you can get stronger ships that will allow you to raid higher levels...
Well for that you need resources
Which you cannot raid any longer
In a cost and time effective manner
@delicate sentinel after pvp update lv22 cannot hit lower than lv20 but lv29 players can still hit lv22. Not a good balance at all!! Fix it!!!!
then you pay $$$ for them, the evil circle is complete @long obsidian 😄
I actually didn't raid anything at those levels... I only started at 23 with a T5 Kehra or something like that
I have paid some, but when looking at those packages they are not really value for money
yeah best value for money is monthly packages, they are low on trit/dil though but great for UCs, speedups and steel
otherwise always wait for the specials, as they are better than the normal
it is totally messed up that someone 6 levels higher than me can hit me but I can't hit someone 5 levels lower that me.
6 Levels? I can get hit by someone 13 levels higher than me.....but I can't hit anyone more than 4 levels lower.
No uncommon
No uncommon again
no uncommon yet again... 3 for 3 no uncommon on the same set of pulls. Please get this fixed. It is not the first time this has happened.
Refinery function needs to be more standardized, like a range of percentages for the returns.
10% for regular, 5% for Uncommon, 1%for Rare.
@lapis gorge what lvl refinery are you at? I've not had a bad run of luck for a long time, pretty much every refine gives me some unc, and only the odd 1 in 6 or 9 gives no unc, and it's very rare for me to get 3 no's in a row in one session. At ops 28 refinery lvl 26.
29
You really have to look at it long(er) term, it also happened to me sometimes that I got no ucs at all in one pull, but on average I get at least 4 per pull, sometimes none and sometimes more
Ops 28 refinery 27 FWIW
it should not take weeks to get enough UC to upgrade 1 component...
Well that depends on which component, if you consider some take 1800....
I agree, at the higher lvls we should be getting the chance at 10s to 100s a day not 1s to 20s.
Lol I wish
for example, to tier my bortas, i need 1400 UC ore. At 10 UC a day (at best) it would take 140 days. 4 entire months to get a tier.
that is with all of the other things that cost UC ore to upgrade as well....
i have a folder with 221 screenshots of refinery results. it is pretty discouraging to look through.
Yes. Events are the primary source for uncommons
@delicate sentinel and any other Scopely employees. Our server has players who spend alot of money and then charge back. If you can give me a good contact or message I would appreciate it. This is getting ridiculous.
Definitely a scam
@delicate sentinel there NEEDS to be a delay on base attacks!!! We need to be able to respond to attacks and have a least a moment to put up a shield. Everyone is gaming the system and creeping as close as possible before attacing so that we never get a notification until the attack is already over and we're left with a huge repair bill that we could have avoided had we had an appropriate amount of time to put up a shield. On a related note, the level range that high level players can attack need to be WAY lower. There is absolutely NO defense a level 22 player can put up against a level 32 player, it's ridiculous, it creates bullies, and it totally ruins the gameplay experience for midgame player. Give us a better chance to protect ourselves, or stop letting superpowered bullies steamroll all over us.
The new level ranges suck. As a 24 now it’s harder for me to get rss from lower levels but yet my base can still get smashed by a 36? I have no chance of defending with all my ships home and maxed out. And god forbid my ships aren’t home? Their freighter can take over 2 mil in one shot. You may have made it easier for lower level players but much like real life, the middle class gets the shaft!
the amount of frequency modulator required to upgrade per component is insane. Swarm should definately drop alot more. 10x if not 20x more
@high igloo yeah there's a shield AFTER the attack.....some of the time...the problem is these 32's can come sailing in with a Horizon, smash everything in one shot and sail away with a million in resources. The attack alert is pointless if we can't actually DO anything about it. I'd like to be able to actually put up a shield BEFORE an attacker hits for once. If i'm online when it happens I should have that option.
You do. It warns you of an impeding attack. Your whole screen flashes red while the ship is targeting you
You didn't read my original post then.
@craggy egret if the players are smart, they'll stop right before your base before hitting but I've blocked like 20 attacks by bubbling before they hit
people bypass that warning by getting really close before attacking so that that warning doesn't go off until AFTER they've already completed the attack, giving you zero time to respond and shield.
I did read your post... What needs to be changed is the PvP rules. Max is way too high. It should be +/- a constant (3-5)
and then you have 10 mins to bubble
yes the max definately needs to be changed, but the mechanic needs to be changed as well, there's absolutely no point in getting a warning if you have no chance to do anything about it.
3-5 second delay would be enough
if you're online that's just enough time to hit the button, if you're not online....well then you should have a shield anyway
I understand the need for a delay but I think the system is fine how it is. It allows for strategy
I consider it an exploit.
Consider it how you will but it makes sense. However, people shouldnt be able to 1 hit crack a base with a miner
Except a north star because of the limited cargo
The fact that people can drain a base with the horizon with one hit is ridiculous
I look to the shows, even if a ship is about to ram your hull, they always have a couple seconds to call out "shields" and raise them just in time. It's not "captain we just got destroyed by that ship that sailed 3 meters from our hull. should we raise shields now?"
with the exception of course of the second original movie, but that was a different case cuz the ship was hijacked, but they were supposed to raise shields anyway they were just stupid
There is actually a building for this but it's only for level 40+
Someone said the refinery will be adjusted ??
Better drop of@everything from 2 packages then three insane
@azure sphinx that's one of those "set your miners before you go to bed, wake up with miniscule completion and dead miners" missions.
All you need is a couple years of doing that every night. 👍
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I have one that requires mining 5M dil
Lol, yea I did. Still too long. Lol... I know, tell me about it. <@&509690795536941056> pass on a word to management and tell them they suck at gaming.
Insane man. That is just insane
I'm speechless @storm hornet
There are worse missions IMO.
"donate $900 worth of Dil" for example.
But yeah the mining ones are annoying.
It would be a lot more reasonable if the mining throughput was higher.
<@&509690795536941056> please consider increasing mining yields for base rss.
Don’t bother upgrading Romulan Ship Structure research, it doesn’t do anything... I can only assume Fed and Klingon is broke also. Supposed to increase efficiency of upgrading faction ships. Just put mine to lvl 3 12% to 19% and it’s done nothing, I was curious so took before and after picks
I thought this was an issue when I upgraded to lvl 2 months back but didn’t have any pictures, thought it would be fixed by now. The amount of people that must have these upgrades and are spending money to buy ship upgrade packs to lvl factions ships.. Scopely need to reimburse some resource I think, I used a lot lvling my Centurion to tier 6 thinking I was at least getting 12% efficiency
@arctic sluice it works after you click upgrade, you'll see less is actually deducted although support also acknowledge that there is some issue with the research, no clue what though
Oh right, I stand corrected then lol 😂 so it says full price but will apply the % reduction... surely if you don’t have enough for the full price upgrade it will be greyed out and stop you upgrading even if you have enough rss for the reduced price? Still something to be sorted out... but hey at least they spent time on new combat animations first that was my priority
Yes you are correct it isn't ideal...
Also it isn't worth the uncommons to reduce trit/dil costs
well the first ones are very low on UC so they are worth it IMO
lvl 5 pure dil needs something stupid like 150 UC crystal so not gonna happen
Depends... the resource costs of the purple ships are gonna be pretty high I would have thought so it may be worth having a few lvls
Npc crate drop Rates are really bad since the event started. Just killed 25 romulans lvl 32 - 34 and got four boxes...
Is there a reason why I have completed half of both events to build the Mayflower but it says I don't have any blueprints?
Totally agree to the criticism on the new pvp lvl ranges for mid lvl players. Example: U grow up while getting raided by higher lvls. Once u have the power to raid urself u get crippled by only being able to attack lvl 19+ with lvl 21, 20+ with lvl 22 while u urself are still able to get raided by lvl 27s with lvl 21 and higher with lvl 22. That’s not an improvement. Also if u r not a player who invested quite some money in ship power u need to be some lvls above to be able to raid a base in a profitable way if it has some Defense power and ships in hangar. So with the new pvp lvl ranges mid lvl players are having a harder time raiding while they are still easy targets for higher lvls. A constant lvl range is better than what the situation is now. Actually the situation before was even better since it was fair in that way that u knew u can raid urself once higher in lvl and stronger.
Sorry, meant Franklin, now it says I do? Not sure why it was not coming up before?
@nova sierra try being level 24 and getting raided by level 34's...all the time, only 34's.
They've placed themselves in key systems to easily raid all the mid level players.
there ain't much difference in trying to be 24 as with 23, which I am at the moment
the only remedy for that is: shields and timers
One more notif thats literally late 40 minutes and im leaving this game and spread as much black pr as I can...
I have DS 5 min sleep, 1 min wake. Its not my phone in DS. All notifs come timely. Why this game is exception when notif is so utterly critical
have you read the TOS ?
Let me guess "dont blame me" clause.
Indemnification
You agree to indemnify, save, and hold Scopely, its affiliated companies, officers, directors, contractors, employees, agents, third-party suppliers, licensors, and partners harmless from any and all claims, losses, damages, and liabilities, including legal fees and expenses, arising out of or relating to: (i) your use or misuse of our Services or goods or services obtained in connection therewith; (ii) any breach or violation of these Terms; (iii) our use of your User Content; or (iv) any breach of the representations, warranties, and covenants made by you herein. We reserve the right, at your expense, to assume the exclusive defense and control of any matter for which you are required to indemnify us, and you agree to cooperate with our defense of these claims. We will use reasonable efforts to notify you of any such matter upon becoming aware of it. You agree that the provisions in this paragraph will survive any termination of your Account(s) or of our Services.
And how am I breaking it? Bad PR is nothing else as saying your opinion that something is bad.
just telling you that you could get into trouble
Bobody can get anybody in trouble for having and beeing explicit about opinion. Laws trumps ToSes
you will be making a statement about the game, claiming something
Nobody*
@wind nebula have that conversation with a police officer you just said to: My opinion is you are an <censored>
they will bust you up anyways, whether you used your constitutional right to express your opinion or not
he will still see it as offence
Få det nu fixet. Det er over 3 mdr siden den fejl startede... og x antal opdateringer.... nok ikke jeres højeste priotet, men pæn træls for os spiller!!!
@solemn coral Friend, terms of service is a civil action and your example is criminal. You are allowed to express your opinions of this game. No one can take that right away from you in the United States. Now if you’re talking Middle East, Russia? Europe? All bets are off.
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If you have TOS that states I am no longer “legally” authorized to express my opinion... you’re in for a great ride.
A lot of that is not enforceable in the US. For example if scopely uses your user content in an inappropriate way, no court would hold to you indemnify them
They can say it all they want but it’s subject to the court and doesnt hold up
It’s really civil when it involves money and the agreement to play is civil.
You do have a right to bad mouth a game when you use facts
They won’t go after you. I leave bad reviews all the time and they delete it off their ig. I’m about to leave a bad review on the game at the App Store
Please make the PvP a permanent +/- 4 and not have this exponential crap that makes it so mid range players can't possibly get good raids nor find 3* nodes but whales can still raid lower level players in a one hit drain. Also please make the 8 hour shields in dailys 12 hours long. I have explained multiple times why. These are problems and they need to be fixed now. P.S. nobody cares as much about these new graphics/swarm crap until you start fixing these bugs. Yes, they look good and gives more stuff for us to do, but if that's the priority over fixing the problems you have, you will lose clients right and left.
Went to Niawillen..... nothing at Gorvax...... so what was this announcement about this afternoon??
The PvP balance seems rather off. Since moving to level 23 I have been hit twice by level 28's. Level 28 is not defendable against. They can one hit your base then just come in and clean up. I got hit last night in a one hit with my two best ships home. Days of mining and event playing to build up those resources, for naught. I was away from my phone and my shield had been down for a few minutes. When I came back, empty.
That is not balanced, it's tipped severely in the favour of the higher players.
WE've been complaining about this issue since the beginning, they just recently changed it, and made it so much worse. It's just as easy for high levels to raid, but mid level raiding has been crippled. The result has been high levels literally ransacking every mid level base they can possibly hit because there are no more rich for them to smash. It's a total disaster, people who almost never had to shield before now find themselves constantly living under a bubble afraid that if they go even 1 resource unit over protected amounts a smash will be coming within seconds...which is in fact the reality now.
I'm a 25 I can't attack a 20 yet a lv 34 can take my ships at will for nothing more the power destroyed stats. Snafu
That seems a pointlessly unfair.
I guess this upgrade doesn’t work. Photo before and after
Did you restart the game? I find some upgrades don't show/work until you restart. Full close and reopen.
@spring oyster it works but not the way most of us expect. It is just like the Pure Trit and Pure Dil researches. It doesn’t reduce the upfront upgrade costs instead it provides you a refund of the reduced amounts. If you check your trit lvls before and after you upgrade a part you will see it doesn’t decrease by the 3.2M
Thanks) I’m not even surprised
It doesn’t make any sense at all but it does work
BUT it doesn't actually refund you the correct amount...
I have pure trit at 34% + fed one at 6% and I only get back ~30%
Now that’s sad! Does it do the 6% then 34% off the reduced amount? To late/early to figure if that’s 30%. Does scopely say that’s working as intended?
Isn't the rule of thumb to say that if we aren't getting what we expect then it's working as intended? 😄
Same message for scopely really - lower your expectations for how many £100 packs I'll be buying. Should have given more frequency mods in the rewards for leveling ops so that we could build up Franklin to at least semi useable without yet another long and boring grind.
Just wanted to know why at LVL 23 I can only hit LVL 20 that’s fair but a lvl 33 can take me out for no reason other than they can. Makes the game far less enjoyable
This is what is known as false advertising. I have already alerted Google. They suggest that I do a lot from my bank. Shame on you Scopely, and your copy paste customer support is horrid.
What's wrong with it @copper crane ?
The flying fudge is there really a 'buy officer packs' event?
Looks like bug
@lofty plaza oh yeah. Do you want See another great game design?
And best part, he die get dili, vault should protect 24k without research. My dili was only 8k
So vaults didnt work correctly.
And a Single miner can defeat your base alone. Why have i to Upgrade the cannons?
@nova sierra the dilithium he got was what was in your generators, which is unprotected by vault. If you don't claim it it can be raided
Also never leave your base unshielded if you don't have any ships in dock. They're very easy to crack if undefended by ships.
Oh I thought you generated where safe
I had my two best ships in yesterday and it still got nobbled and then I had to pay to repair the ships as well. I get the logic, but with the big boys wandering around now it's possibly better to have no ships at home and only lose the Res, opposed to the Res and having to repair ships for the next 2 hours.
Swarm tokens? What??? I have questions
@nova sierra for recruiting chest
The new PVP balancing is terrible. I'm lvl 22. I can attack lvl 20+. But lvl 30 !! CAN attack me !! Where is the balancing there???
its because lvl30's are weaklings ... they need lvl20 targets becuase they are too weak to deal with other lvl 30's
@muted swift But a Single Freight ship should Not wir against a base. Excatly when the base is stronger
Can someone for the love of God adress yhe ridiculous pvp balancing, it is all kinds of messed up.
ffs, i hate it that we can't upgrade ships due to player level, why can't you just lets us have fun in the game! If we don't want to level up, why try everything you can to force them! oh wait ofc, you have to force player levels up to feed the cashers !
How can a base be emty, with this info. Please change the info to who much i can raid.
We need to be able to trade we bought stuff with real cash so it's ours under law . So we should be able to trade what we bought.
Is there any plans to make this game so people have something to loose. By that I mean alot of games I play you can reset someone to zero right now the bullies that are way bigger have no reprocissions to stop them if they could be teamed up on and reset it would make them think twice before picking fights with all the smaller players.
@eager yoke everything in the game is owned by scopely. You are paying cash to access it
<@&509691205798592532> One of my Alliance members 3 day shield glitched and caused him to be drained of his rss. He would like to make a help ticket about it in hopes to get his rss back. How would he go about that. Thanks
Why isn't there more swarm missions after killing Zenith, until level 26?
So if you file a support ticket by e-mail you get a survey to complete, maybe doing that and providing some constructive feedback in the survey will help, I bet they don't like 1* ratings lol
New l v l caps are crap
@pseudo canyon I'm afraid reimbursements are not being given at this time but for more information on how to create tickets, please check #557163704383438850 .
@nova sierra Thanks
@nova sierra what do you mean by there are no recompensations? They did this in the past. A lot of people got problems with shield on our server as well. Seems if someone put up a shield which is longer than 8 hrs it won't work after those 8hrs. there are numerous people who could be attacked by faction ships with 1d/3d shields i know of
they even have screenshots with time stamps applying the shield
@oblique ridge It's been like this for several months following widespread abuse by players ranging into the 100's of millions of resources "reimbursed" after making false claims.
Rewards for this mining event are awful. Wtf?
The new attack ranges are retarded.. it should be plus or minus 5 levels that makes since not a freaking 45 hitting a 25 while a 25 isn't allowed to hit a 20
Of course pay hards will love there vastly larger attack range
Ffs atleast try to make it a fair fight
mining rewards for 33 lvl ^( lol
I cannot see anyone doing the mining event ... more than insulting
Notices of attack v stations are still not working 100% of the time
<@&509690795536941056> or <@&509691205798592532> , I brought it up a few days ago how difficult it is finding killable hostiles that meet the criteria for various events. I've been trying to kill lvl 33 federation explorers as I need 33+ for faction dailies for over 6 hours now and have only found 14. I can't kill 34's, and I can kill 32's but it doesn't help, and with a 3.5 hour repair time and not being rewarded with speed ups to kill these ships I can't really rely on that as a means of spawning more 33's. Can't they simply balance the number of different levels in each system, or have hostiles refresh more frequently in systems? It's not really fun playing for 6 hours to try and complete 1 daily.
@strong shard they spawn randomly. So you have to kill other hostiles in the System.
Yes, I get that, but as I said I can kill all the 32's for no reward and have to wait 3.5 hours to repair ship, that's not very fun or productive, and I don't see why they can't have a hostile ship present in a system for no longer than 3 minutes or something before it randomly swaps out for a new one. It would do no harm, and make the game more playable and fun.
OR there should be systems like the swarm systems where an entire system is dedicated to a single level and ship type...
@strong shard Do you have scope for reducing your faction level? Or are you at a particular level for the rewards. If it's just for the dailys, drop your faction level until it's achievable at a reliable amount.
How can a lv 27 hit a lv 22? Yet a lv 22 cannot hit a 19? Scopleey needs to fix this. Not cool that a lv 27 can be a bully to someone who can not do anything because of level and strength.
I've been doing all the fed missions I can to reduce faction level but the only reliable source of repair speed ups as mentioned is doing the faction killing dailies, so even if I just did those and ignored the mining/resource for rep factions dailies I still would always break the 1.2 barrier. I can kill 33's just fine so its not a problem, the bigger problem is throughout the whole PVE grind for the franklin, and again today, I kept hitting road blocks where the hostiles I needed to kill were not available for hours on end, so you either just hit hostiles that don't feed your daily or hit ones that only give 6 points towards PVE instead of 20 points and its all a waste of time. I just don't get why they can't refresh hostiles more frequently is all.
K. So, I got hit last night by a player. I had a 12 hour shield up. Then I got a 30m notification LATE from getting hit. And lo and behold, when I logged in, the screen showed that I had that 12 hour shield STILL UP FROM WHEN I LOGGED OUT - before the screen update, et al.
So what happened to my 12 hour shield, guys?
Here's the thing; if Scopely can't push an update properly without resetting people's shields...what the hell. Seriously
Dare i say it... starting to see a pattern of shield issues and the 12 hour shield. Likely a coincidence...
This is the only game I've ever played where I felt it necessary to screenshot right before logging out because the game can't keep track of what shields when
It wasn't a 12 hour shield I put in place originally. It was a 1 day shield that had 11h45m on it when I closed down my phone
so there's that, too
@delicate sentinel I'm getting really tired of this sort of thing. This has been a recurring issue for months now
And gosh, wouldn't it just be coincidence that the server maintenance happens at around 1AM every night? Same time my shield vanished, apparently
Well, without providing facts, people have proven that the shield can be broken. And its been reported to scopely. So they know the shield doesn't work, and still refuse to refund RSS at the risk of "harming the game economy," but we all signed our rights away when we agreed to the TOS to play the game even if scopely were to take away all of your RSS that you paid for.
@strong shard please make sure that everybody who gets affected by this bug sends screenshots and their player ID to @nova sierra who is aware of the bug and providing the info to the devs.
If necessary it might even be useful to stage some tests, where you intentionally break people's shield and raid them, and provide that info.
tons of screenshots need to be taken though to prove what happens, throughout the process.
@strong shard Who are you factioned with and trying to get the dailys for?
because the envoy is a 2* ship so doesn't get much stronger than that
Figured out why lvl 33 can hit lvl 23’s but 23 can only hit 20’s want to keep all the big spenders happy
Seriously, it absolutely sucks to get these events pop up with no notice when you've already spent a boatload of resources. It stank for the buy officers event, and now again for the gorkon for crystal event. If you're not making up random events at the last minute then start putting it on a calendar so we know what to save. Top reward for me requires 800 uncommon crystal which i have no chance of refining in a month, let alone a week.
It's a pay event pure and simple, just like the last one. They know full well uncommon anything is the biggest stalling point in the game. They also know that most of their big spenders are completionists and will pay to complete virtually any event or new content. They're catering directly to that, they've directly stated that as their business plan.
Не успел занять шахту после 0 как прилетел и сбил
Пока ждал что прилетит шахтер, прилетел и сбил это правильно?
@mossy pond ты уверен что ты в тот канал написал?)
А в какой писать?
ну у многих серваков есть свои каналы на дискорде - такие вещи обычно там обсуждаются - тут то тебе кто что скажет) - у всех свои правила поведения
Hi all, why are packs so expensive? Not sure if it has been discussed before, but I find it ridiculous when you can buy a whole game on dedicated platforms (PlayStation etc) for less than a pack.
Idea/Feedback/Bug Report
Can we be able to target ships that are "stacked" on things like planets or nodes? I.e., if you send your ship to a planet, you can sit on it and not be targetable, selecting only selects the planet. Add'l, if you "stack" on a node by going to mine when someone else is but they beat you, you currently "stack" under them and cannot be selected/targeted.
the more it's absurd the more it works? scopely would have to try to think of stopping us from being stupid
pretty sure it's only there to show how much value is to be had in the other packs
it does not even a month that I played and anyway scopely does absolutely everything to penalize the players who do not pay they put a fairly expensive pack that does not allow you to do anything because you really miss it is in a pack
@nova sierra👍 👍
@mossy pond ну и вопросики у тебя на 23 ур
<@&509691205798592532> has there been any discussion amongst the dev’s over at Scopely regarding abandon’ed accounts and their bases that sit occupying space within popular systems? If not, this needs to be brought up that accounts that haven’t had a login greater than say 30 days would go into a new “inactive” status. In addition add a new abandoned system to the galaxy (or two). When a player goes into an inactive status, they are automatically dropped from the alliance that they were with and their base automatically moved to the abandoned system. If the player returns, their station is there and they can relocate it somewhere else. This seems like the simplest way to achieve this while not creating issues with where to put the station and what happens if a player returns to the game after a prolonged period of inactivity.
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@faint gate they get removed from server after a while
I would say they will get removed after 4-5 months.But I dont know for sure
Have you actually seen this? I haven’t. Same abandoned bases since I started playing earlier this year
I asked earlier what will happen to my base after some time.Because I am quiting soon
You got a reply which is half the battle. Sorry your leaving but I can certainly understand as this game is a love/hate experience. Thanks for passing this on
Np 🖖.I will be back after 4 years
No 30 days. More like 90. Think about hollydays
Can the <@&509691205798592532> chime in on the latest problems with running the game on an android emulator (BlueStacks, NOX) and Chromebook? It appears that the issue is related to a google update but perhaps someone has some more specific knowledge.
The lvl pvp restrictions are not helpful. Limits options to playing. I didn’t have a problem with old restrictions. Problem is the players that stay at lvl 14 and exploit the rules of the game
run BlueStacks on mac... works like a champ
<@&509691205798592532> please inform scopely that with each successive 7.6.x client, less and less emulators are actually able to run STFC without crashing during starting
I had to rollback today’s update to the prior one to actually get into the game on my desktop
So yes, it’s nothing to do with any other component other than the STFC app otherwise no amount of version rollback would let me play
Updates are made to the game and therefor requirements increase. Not all is due to Scopely as some things are related to the Unity engine which requires regular updates as well to ensure proper support amongst new devices.
Considering most of their content providers use emulators
Pretty soon they will have no one left able to pimp their product
Meaning a sudden drop in income
I personally use BlueStacks as well and the only change I've noticed recently, although I'm unsure as of which update, was that the graphics where bumped up from MD to HD.
Have you installed the most recent update, 7.6.2 that just came out today?
Because my blue stacks was ok too until then
I'll have to check that.
Are you sure you're not enabling unnecessary options in BlueStacks like the experimental graphics engine? I've heard that in particular is quite taxing.
Dude, 7.6.1 works, 7.6.2 crashes, no other changes made
7.6.1 crashes on my laptop
Hence my point that as these clients come out, less emulators can play them without crashing
Only thing changing is the client app itself
I've already addressed that:
"Updates are made to the game and therefor requirements increase. Not all is due to Scopely as some things are related to the Unity engine which requires regular updates as well to ensure proper support amongst new devices."
And if you read the reddit , and even here in other locations, you will see many other people also have this issue
As of today?
I did see some reports earlier this week, in particular about ChromeBooks which I've forwarded.
Yes those, I’m sure it’s incompatibility with specific hosts not the VMs themselves, which is why it’s so hit and miss
In the mean time I've checked the new update and can confirm it crashing on BlueStacks.
Okie dokie then perhaps put out a @everyone then
And just FYI, the way it crashes, as in just as it’s about to draw the station animation and the opening mission, that’s exactly what effects the earlier reports on other host machines
Including those chrome books
Be advised that BlueStacks allows you to manage multiple instances to allow you to remain on older versions for a time.
Further more, emulation is still not officially supported and as such - I can't promise this will be given priority.
I do understand that it's a useful tool for Content Creators and users alike still, so I'll forward it again.
Please with some ‘priority 0’ marker, they may need to pull the client fro google play store
Well now that we sell raw refinery material, legally obligated to post refinery drop rates in many countries
Raw drop rates are as follows 1:1 based upon your mining ships capabilities.
@wicked jetty whats in those packs?
I am jealous of your Legionary packs 😭
Feedback: G3 $20 packs are more affordable and good step in making the game available to more players.
Please continue to create similar under $20 content.
Also, giving players a free sample pack wouldnt hurt... 😘
@hallow pumice at ops 29
Not bad
@nova sierra you had give another player details on archived players and their bases being moved. Just raised a case with Support and below is the response. This really needs to be brought up to Scopely because “randomly” for this type of maintenance doesn’t make any sense.
the problem with the new update isn't due to VMs. it's due to the fact that the update removes the Unity x86 compatibility that existed in all previous versions of the game. That's why it's failing in emulators on PCs, on Chromebooks with intel cpus and on phones/tablets using intel cpus. the exact same thing happened when Hempire devs intentionally removed support for intel-based devices. Game would launch, then as soon as the loading screen finished, the unity screen would fail its render and crash the game.
NoX has no issues, just tested with 6.2.8.0 and updating to latest NoX know and will test again
the new client on iOS is still not 100% procent stable on 1Gb devices, but already shows great performance gains
render speed almost doubled
in regards to emulator support, maybe because I use AMD and not Intel
Nox 6.3.0.5 with android 7 on AMD also no issues
@meager osprey isn't x86 just the 32bit support? and x86_64 the 64bit one, that one would also need to be disabled
furthermore, the x86_64 probably works, because as said, it works for me on an AMD cpu (and I doubt there is a specific AMD64 extension, thus probably just using x86_64 arch
You changed it so OP 26 cant hit op20. Fine. But why can an OP 39 hit me?
How is that fair play?
in the eyes of the devs that is fair i guess rofl!
The first guy is alright, a friend. That was from friendly pvp but the OP lvls allowed are silly.
We have other high lvls on our server that just go system to system killing all miners. Every day our empty miners are killed by rogues. It really ruins the game.
We should be able to scan allies. I was defending my alliance mates base with a few others as his base had been hit, but we had no wat of checking if anything was left. Be cool if we could scan all including allies, but not attack allies.
Can someone explain why this morning I could see the 3* material packs and then an hour later they had disappeared?
They appeared too early - they were supposed to only go on sale when the bonus refinery ended 💩
@swift hemlock It's a game of numbers. There isn't enough critical mass (e.g. number of players) to make a tight +/- PVP window. Especially for those that have reached that level. Moreover, a 26 can occupy mining space in the same places a 39 can -- they could monopolize nodes. There are numerous scenarios in which tightening the PVP engagement window has negative effects. In general, higher levels don't engage with lower levels anyway.
@nova sierra using the same logic shouldn’t we be able to hit the level 14’s that occupy the same mining nodes and are actually (not hypothetically) monopolizing nodes?
Potentially, however the bigger point is player density at various levels.
The higher you go the less there are of a certain level. Which is why they increase the spread
Otherwise there is effectively no engagement for higher levels
Programmatically though they should allow all PvP regardless of ops level for survey class ships. This would solve the problem of the nodes while not unbalancing the game from a fighter/station perspective
Or make any ship on a node able to be engaged in combat regardless of ops level. That’s probably a simpler more elegant solution.
I wouldn't be opposed to it.
@nova sierra but they do. We have 7 rogues who just go system to system killing all miners. Daily. They are a nuisance to the entire system, and have made many players quit playing. Yesterday one of them cleared the same system 3 times in 1 hour.
It seems like every time I do something non-fight-related I get the transition screen: the black screen with the Star Trek Fleet Command logo on it. I'm using an iPhone 6 with the latest iOS. Does this happen to everyone, or am I special because my phone is old and slow?
@swift hemlock it sounds like your server needs a group of people who like to fight the other guys
The ones killing miners aren't the problem
The problem is the mass of people who won't fight back
Please work on the Server Change, my wife started to play this game too and i can't protect her because we're Not on the same server
@nimble sail Protect her? in what way? ALso, have her watch my video on Shielding 😃
@cursive finch you have a YouTube channel?
Why yes I do
@buoyant pivot Sorry, he's still new to being a YouTuber. @cursive finch , this is where you plug your reference like so:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDUI_PVz0JJ1ymw0TMsj2jg
@nova sierra thx
@cursive finch just tell the defs to create a Server Switch Button or something then i will watch Your yt vids and give you a like😂👍
Lol we have been pushing for server transfers.
@nova sierra I didn’t want another bad murderbot message from you
LOL. You're fine to use your vids as answers to people their questions ya know. 😛
It's alright, machine learning takes time.
And training.
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I just want to be a good murderbot.
@fuzzytoad isn't x86 just the 32bit support? and x86_64 the 64bit one, that one would also need to be disabled
@solemn coral the issue, as I've just discovered, is that every previous build of the game used the armeabi-v7a ABI.. the new update is using arm64-v8a
and a default BS install(as well as most other emus) looks like the following:
confirmed with Fuzzytoad. So basically if you don't have an AMD this update makes it so you can't play on those devices.
NOX / BS on Intel chipset @solemn coral? Nope. Doesn't work
I get all the useless splash pages, yep
But the minute the game actually tries to do anything? Crashes
I've installed the Beta Bluestacks
trying STFC now
still crashing as soon as it opens...
I tried it on an AMD machine as well. Crash.
What is the best way to send feedback and suggestions to devs? Do they check this channel or are we better off sending msg in game to cs ??
@cyan fossil then why does it work on mine ? 😛
and I don't even use the BS beta build
please check the first number, I now notice this is the new build with the OLD unity engine
there are two I think
if you see 5.6.4p3, you are on the old unity engine
if it says 2018.4.2f1, you are on the new unity engine
the ios build should all be on the new engine now, but for android, I think only a few have the new engine
@solemn coral nice to see your on my server
@solemn coral that's not the new update
the new update that's crashing everyone is 593.01932
Still no more swarm missions for 17, thru 25, what's up with that?
I mean come on, thats the bulk of the players, really whats up with that?
Scopely must have stolen the plans from Bernie madoff when they came up with pricing for packs that buy you ships that are broke AF,shields that are guaranteed , but do not work sometimes and you lose everything and they won't make you whole. Then there is the borked refinery. Yes it still horribly sucks. The game economy is a warmed over turd with the most ridiculous upgrade requirements I have ever seen. If you don't pay to play on this game great. If you are thinking about it. Just stop. Uninstall it and go buy your selves about 5 Xbox ones, cause that will get you maybe a whole tier6/7 upgrade on a ship.
Let's not forget nonexistent support. Your issues will be ignored in the order they are received.
Scopely, just sayin' but you would tempt more people to buy the lvl 26 faction ships if you offered the packs for ships of hostile factions to the player, not only the ones that we can already buy in the faction store.
@solemn coral I don't know why it works on yours.
I have no idea, because I can't beta test a machine I know nothing about. All I know is that I've got both Nox and Bluestacks installed on an AMD machine and neither works, so telling me that yours works = yay for you, I still have an issue.
And the AMD machine is just an old crappy machine that I don't use as my primary. My primary is an Intel machine. So - yay! Great! It works for you! It doesn't work for me on two separate machines, both of which have Nox/Bluestacks installed, and both of which functioned just fine prior to the latest update.
I realize a part of your job is to plaster over some of the fuckups and say "nothing to see here" but when the devs manage to screw it up THIS badly one has to ask why
Look, I don't mean to sound snippy here but when you're trying to troubleshoot a problem, the last thing you want to hear the person whom you're trying to get assistance from is "Well it works fine on mine!" No kidding, you work for the company.
@cyan fossil all moderators are volunteers, none of them work for scopely. Only <@&509690795536941056> work for them.
I would argue that even an unpaid intern is working for the company - volunteers work for a volunteer organization even if they're unpaid. If they're working on Scopely's behalf (and they could in fact claim this on their taxes if they timed out what they were doing) - yes, they DO actually work for Scopely. Whether or not they get paid for it isn't really the issue - if this is official, then they're doing work for Scopely.
But that's irrelevant to the issue at hand, which is "Hey this last update broke the game on Nox and Bluestacks, when will it NOT BE BUSTED?"
Because if "feedback" goes nowhere, it's not really feedback, it's the roundfile on the floor for complaints.
I really wonder if Scopely is ever going to add a ship scuttling feature in this game where you can scuttle unwanted ship & get at the very least 50% to 75% of RSS, Materials used in building & upgrading the said ship. It would be a nice & helpful feature.
@cyan fossil understand your frustration but keep in mind Bluestacks and Nox are both essentially hypervisors to allow emulation of apps on non-mobile devices. I suspect that the issue is actually there and not within the app. I suggest either looking at your bluestack logs (https://support.bluestacks.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001869483-How-to-send-system-logs-manually-) and/or sending a support request to blue stacks with your logs to help debug what is happening when the app is running. Not trying to downplay Scopely’s role in QA’ing their software especially if they say it is supported on these third party emulators but you are probably going to get a faster resolution going direct to bluestacks for help.
Pls stop blaming the hyper visor, it’s not the damn hypervisor. Its scopelys bad programming and it’s directly linked to the ‘amazing’ new ship animations that started in the 7.6 clients as that’s when the first reports of crashing occurred. And as each sub client has come out it’s affected more and more machines
When it affected me I went though several hypervisors looking for one that worked, bluestacks, nox, memu, even VMware, it affects all of them. And from my limited pool of games on Android ONLY STFC is crashing
So.....affects multiple machines and hypervisors, check
.......only affects STFC, check
.......new effects added to game when it started, check
Just leaves, bad coding
I suspect that the issue is actually there and not within the app.
That's not true. the new update is also causing the game to crash on phones, tablets and chromebooks that have intel cpus.
@cyan fossil my bluestacks is and has been working perfectly fine.
@peak yacht The plural of anecdote is not "data".
Again, that's great for you. But it doesn't solve the problem that most others have been describing.
When an entire CLASS of devices with Intel chips stops working from an update, one can clearly assume that the fault is not the device, nor the software that prior to the update ran the app perfectly, but rather a complete cockup on the end of the app developer.
And to wit, I don't care. What I care about is that there are a large number of players whose devices are NOT working, continue to fail to work, and that the update that Scopely pushed a day ago is the direct cause of it.
In other words, what I am directly giving feedback on is what appears to be Scopely's general inability to push a single update without breaking at least something.
This is not a little something.
This is an entire class of devices that are not functioning because of Scopley's latest build.
This is like anything running iOS not functioning.
This is not a minor glitch. This is a major cockup.
And I would like @delicate sentinel or someone who actually speaks for Scopely and doesn't deflect the issue to respond to it.
To respond to @faint gate :
I suspect that every other person who downloaded the update and found themselves unable to play the game past the first two minutes of ad material and surveys (good to know at least Scopely ensured THOSE would work no matter what) are fairly certain it's not the emulator.
Since this is the only app that does it, it's not the emulator, nor the software.
No update to Bluestacks was done prior to the Scopely update.
No update to Nox was done prior to the Scopely update.
In any possible diagnosis of any possible issue, one almost ALWAYS looks for what changed or what happened right before the crash.
It's as true of Boeing 737 Maxes as it is in game development, and in this case, it's that Scopely pushed yet another update that broke the game for a wide number of their users. Again.
So please stop trying to pin this on Bluestacks or Nox or whatever.
This is Scopely.
This is not Bluestacks.
This is not Nox.
And all I want to know is when it will be fixed.
Fair enough. Then send the log files to Scopely. I’m just saying if all we know is based on the screenshots from above and the stack you are running on then logs are needed to get a more in-depth view of what’s going on. Scopely has an email address you can send those to and would be significantly more valuable than saying “it still doesn’t work”. I get frustration with software but as a developer I can’t fix what I can’t replicate. Again trying to keep this constructive and again yes I fully agree that Scopely has responsibility here so everyone can calm down. If we want these problems to be fixed someone who has these issues send the logs to Scopely who can work with their internal teams to review what’s going on under the hood.
@cyan fossil ok so to get your game working again in bluestacks uninstall the garbage version available in play store. next download this version 0.593.01884_apkpure.com.apk (size 105.4mb) https://apkpure.com/star-trek™-fleet-command/com.scopely.startrek/download/5931864-APK?from=versions%2Fversion. next go to media manager in bluestacks and import from windows and select the apk file, (should be in your downloads folder) then when offered install it. it may fail to load first time dont worry close it and try load it again . the second time it will start to download the additional content from scopely servers. wait it out then tap to continue and it should load. NOTE the menu overlay is missing. close the game again and reload and it is back working again
Can also drag and drop the apk file onto the home screen, after uninstalling the broken version, worked for me also.
Witch pack is better anyone lol I need to boost my ships I also have a mayflower but it’s lame HELP LOL
Scopely,
We just lost another player in our alliance to the refinery. Here are his final words about why he is quitting the game.
“the big issue is that RSS requirements are going through the roof (6-9m parsteel for one building) and mining isn't going up to cover it. It would take me weeks to mine 9m parsteel. The only reason I've been able to keep up is with tokens from events. But now I'm always out of uncommon tier 3 stuff. I've been refining two batches of Crystal and ore twice a day for months. I can't research or build stuff because of lacking tier 3 uncommon. My ships would need a month of refining to get one tier up. I've gotten my daily token every day since they released them. I've made it to level 27 spending almost nothing in the store. It's just not progressing any more. The second I get any RSS, I've got a dozen people ready to raid my base. It's disheartening..”
@cyan fossil yes, nothing to really see here as I am unable to reproduce, and as I figured out., works due to other actual issues for me, that does not imply I do not CARE about your issue
nor do I wanna plaster over it
but you know what? if you feel about it like that, then I think, I should no longer 'waste' my time on this, I passed on what you folks said, I passed on what I saw, also put time in the issue, I let the devs deal with it and no longer bother about it in here, ,how about that ?
Idag fejlede mit 3 døgn skjold. Jeg blev tømt trods jeg havde aktiveret et 3 døgn skjold igår. Idag kan jeg konstatere at jeg ikke mere har skjold på. Kontrollere igår, at jeg havde skjold på, ved at slukke spillet, og starte det på ny. Så det skulle virke. Men nej, det fejlede igen.
Har vedhæftet billeder af det angreb som var gået igennem, og de tab, minus rep af 3 skib og rep på basen.
Når spillet fejler, er det for dårligt, at I ikke dækker tabet.
Can someone please explain how the power destroyed is calculated. Killing several 300-400k ships and it only goes up 400k.
Thàt is a much larger discrepancy than just added crew power
@blazing pivot Jag får på något sätt intrycket att även om spelet smälter helt och alla var tvungna att börja från början, skulle Scopelys officiella linje vara "vi arbetar med en fix och nej, vi kommer inte att kompensera dig för din förlust eftersom den här typen saker händer och du visste vad vi var när du började spela våra spel. "
Så är fallet, chansen är stor om du hade en gruvarbetare eller något som är förlovat med en nod och det fanns någon på noden, din gruvarbetare kan väl ha "attackerat" utan att du menade. Scopely använder detta som en ursäkt för att göra det möjligt för dem att avsluta återbetalningen av saker. Det kommer inte att dyka upp i din kamplogg och de kommer att hävda att det arbetas med, men det verkar som om det är samma sak som de påstår nästan alla sina problem.
Registrera en biljett med dem och hoppas på det bästa, men förvänta dig att de ska vara ... tja, Scopely.
@fleet fox going to assume that based on this it’s the sum of all power. If your battling pvp ships it would be the combined power of the ship and officers
Sounds like if you aren’t seeing that, there must be some voodoo math going on
A 430k Mayflower only increases power destroyed by around 150k.
I’d raise an ingame ticket so they can pull the battlelog and provide more concrete data
But yes the abacus would appear to be broken
@fleet fox @faint gate the Power Destroyed stat, just like Resources Raided is completely BROKEN and useless. Scopely should not even have bothered including either of those metrics in the game.
Don't bother trying to figure them out IMO. They don't mean anything at all.
@storm hornet I'm sure they MEAN something. Whether they mean it consistently or even follow the guidelines that the game says they do is something else altogether.
They don't mean anything lol
Certainly nothing at all compared to what the game leads you to believe it means
I have 1B rss raided for example. But yesterday I raided 400M from a guy. Barely any increase at all.
I have 100m power destroyed
But get no credit at all for all the ships I destroy when attacking stations even though it's FAR MORE DIFFICULT to attack ships in station than it is to attack miners on nodes.
People have vastly higher PD than me who only kill miners lol
The numbers are broken
Just ignore them
I'm just saying, if the game says something is a doughnut, you can expect it to be some kind of bread-based item that may or may not correspond at all to the common expectation of what is a doughnut. It might be a rock-hard bagel with salt on it from last week. It might be a chunk of bread cut into a circle shape.
It might even be a car spinning around in circles very fast. But there will be SOMETHING that Scopely says, "No see look it's a doughnut even though we said you'd get doughnuts from a doughnut shop we gave you this that doesn't look like a doughnut at all"
Can't argue with that. Truth lol
Standards. Expecting Scopely to live up to even their own? That's a fool's errand of the worst kind
At this point i'm watching and just taking notes for talking points on how NOT to develop anything, really.
"Do you think they'll track this change and call us out on it?"
"Nah, Star Trek nerds are the kind of people who never obsessively track and trace things from moment to moment, lore point to lore point. They don't ever worry about little things like reality or expect things to make sense. Don't worry about it!" - every Scopely changelog session ever
You know the "bug" where repairs for your ships actually cost you around 3% more than the repair cost stated? Yeah, that's working as intended.
I know this has been mentioned for ages... but what in the world makes someone think this was ever okay?
The follow up mission gives faction credits etc
I think it was 300 fed credits and 500 fed recruits
What does contribute rss mean?
@storm hornet I destroyed 2 ships around 100k, my pd went up by 50k instead of 200k
@spring oyster it means they can burn their own rss to help level up the alliance
@hallow pumice mine never goes up very much at all and I kill 700+ sallies regularly. I sometimes have fights where I kill TONS of 500+ ships and I get like 2-4M PD added. I've just decided never to look at PD again, it's useless info.
I wonder what math scopely uses to decide this information?
That's just the thing right?
Nobody knows, and it's inconsistent and buggy.
If it was at all clear what that number actually meant it might have a tiny bit of value, at least.
Same with resources raided, which is also basically a meaningless number.
Ok it gives you a general idea who the big raiders are, but doesn't tell you how much they've raided.
It's nowhere close to what it says it is.
Maybe only HP counts?
@storm hornet I'm pretty sure it's not the actual ship power, but the power you lose from your top left display when the ship is destroyed
So not large amounts
For example after repairing my Saladin just now I gained 70k power in that display, so I guess whoever destroyed my Saladin got 70k power destroyed
i did get 39k power destroyed when killing 230k strong kumari with 117k hhp
i got way more dmg done than the average player yet got way less power destroyed
Will STFC ever have a API or public page you can connect to with Excel for stats? @delicate sentinel ?
example, I had to make this up manually in excel. Would be nice to have a direct connection to my stats. 30 reports is just not enough.
@fleet fox often there seems to be significant delay before the PD updates at all.
I wonder how the 70k figured in
We need to get as many people putting tickets in for this as possible so they actually do something
Here's a tip, don't bother to announce a us only cosplay giveaway on eu servers.
Correct me if wrong... power destroyed may be matching up to resources required for repair? Just curious.
Closest answer I got from others was it's by hull hit points.
Which differs for ship class and is not remotely similar to power destroyed. So they need to change the wording or adjust the system
How and where do I find rare plutonium?
@lost osprey you need to be lvl 30+,after that you can see it in your aug faction store
Thanks, I’m at lvl 28 so I guess I have a little way to go yet. And that’s the only way to get it?
Only way outside packs @lost osprey
and even then, the packs RARELY have it until level 30. unless it's a special offer.
you mine data to sell in exchange for aug credits to buy rare plutonium.... it's a processs
the entire time the bb was available for "sale" i only had rare plut in my 49.99 pack for a total of 24 hours.
Yeah, I did notice a inconsistency with the packs, and for a short time I did have rare plutonium in my Aug store (a very short time, I was able to buy it once, then it was gone
<@&509691205798592532> why my account is banned over 12 hours when written I need to be only 8hours , server live193 account R3D3V1L
Also what is this you cant say what for exactly,how can I know you did it fairly,how I know the report was not intentional provocation from haters??
You refuse to tell me and I have rights to know full details about my account
We/moderators cannot see your account and will not be given information about it for privacy reasons. Only Scopley can.
You are scopley workers..
No. We are players who volunteer to monitor their Discord. We don't work for Scopley.
You can at least pass this to those who can
So they can't share private info with us.
Becouse I'm ignored in support
But yes. I will pass it to them. I'm sorry this has happened to you.
I would be upset.
It's unfair, to know my base got raided already just becouse the ban last way longer then should be
Got banned 7pm my time, it's already 7 am same msg...
they shouldn't link faction items to player levels
@cursive eagle why have you been banned if I may ask
and if you are EU citizen, file an article 15 GDPR request
according to the TOS, the email address is privacy@scopely.com, see section 4 at https://scopely.com/tos
These Terms of Service govern the relationship between you and Scopely, Inc. regarding your access to and use of Scopely’s games, mobile apps, websites, content, products, and any related services.
more details at https://scopely.com/privacy/#rights
please be aware special restrictions may apply, which are also covered in the laws
Hvordan kan denne base være tom?? Der e jo forsat rss på den. Få nu rettet det!!
So, I hate to ask for more money grabs, but if we are going to make frequency modulators so difficult and time-consuming to farm, can we please keep the frequency modulators pack in the store?
lvl 14s should not be allowed on 3* its like everyone has an alt now and drops them on 3*.
@frigid yoke why not? they still get mining dailies if they are strong enough to kill faction ships
lvl 14's can get their faction rep/dailies done with mining g3, game allows it, therefor it is lawful and logical. Just because someone plays with their brain instead of their wallet, doesnt mean you should seek to rectify the situation here, more like swallow your 'pride' and ask a low level to bump ... if you hold any respect with the low levelers (aka you didnt stomp them)
Why not have faction dailies require 2* if you are below lvl 19 then?
gosh I'd love to spend some money on the game but 100 bucks literally wont even upgrade a single component on a single ship. tell me scopely why that is.
Idea for daily faction hostile hunting... instead of a specified lvl, make it a point based system similar to how any hostile hunting event is done. It’s exhausting trying to find a lvl 31 when I’m surrounded by 29, 30, and 32. Give me a 1pt for lvl 29, 6pt for lvl 30, and 20pt for lvl 31+... at least it makes it achievable within normal standards.
Example of what is unbalanced in pvp. My two best ships and a fully upgraded 25 station barley scratched one ship 8 levels higher. I cannot hope to engage this person or retaliate against them directly. They are a raid boss compared to me. Note, I am not complaining about being hit or losing rss. My gripe here is the fight is completely one sided.
Please get rid of ships which attack you when you enter a given system.
When you have a mission to do and have to read through several character chats
A ship can appear right next to you and destroy your ships whilst you are still reading!
This is unfair to people like me who are slower readers! And takes away from knowing that the story is!
@ancient mantle easy, warp to the edge of the system and wait for the hunter to arrive, only then go to the mission point
Ummm, how about no
But you could get 1 MILLION parsteel!
😂
1m par for 7.5m trit. This logic is representative of the norm. I emptied a base of trit just to spend on this mission
The replicator event sucks with the rewards
@delicate sentinel You promised some time ago improvements in battle reports, but nothing changed yet...
This is a joke @delicate sentinel
You really need to sort the donation amounts out the return is not worth it
whoever came with them was listening to Queen
I have been having this problem
'I'm going slowly mad.....'
rotation lock ?
@verbal ether do you have rotation lock enabled on your device ?
coz this looks like portrait mode instead of landscape
the app will just try to fill the available space relatively
Is there a specific level that the 3 Hijacked ships will actually be available in the Augment Faction Store as the descriptions suggest? I have team mates that are over ops 26 and maxed on Augment rep but there isn’t any BP available for them.
i think you unlock the BPs during the Act of War events
Yes, @meager osprey . It also says first that they will be available in the Augment Faction Store
can someone explain this to me ? to spend so many resources to have nothing in power?🤔
Click on the i and see what it changes
@delicate sentinel <@&509691205798592532> so in ever game I’ve played community engagement was key. It allows some dialog between players and the company. Not saying that everything gets responded to, but in WoW it was blue responses. In PoE it’s gold responses. Something so the community doesn’t feel like we are just screaming into the wind. @delicate sentinel you talked about creating the platforms for engagement. What’s the point of engagement if it’s only one direction? How much effort would it take to have someone respond back to reddit posts saying yes/no something is or isn’t being considered, talked about, or finding out more information on things that need more details. This is getting really frustrating here
Or is engagement only privileged to “VIP” players who get VIP managers assigned to them due to how much coin they drop?
@faint gate Right on! Couldnt say it better myself. Fight the good fight. All anyone wants is real communication, not the illusion of communication.
I’m struggling to understand the new pvp levels. I’m lvl 25, all boats home, research on defense maxed and a lvl 35 swoops in and one shots me. However, I’m capped from hitting anyone under 21. Which is fine. There is challenge there. But, the lvl 30s have no cap? Very disappointing. I’m questioning continuing to play now.
It is what it is until they have a PVE server option hahahha
I’m asking for balance. It’s heavily favoring the lvl 30s. Why can’t I farm a lvl 19 base anymore? PvP all in or not at all...
Exactly they limit the raids available for level 20s, you are at level 25 and can only go as low as 21 but a level 39 can hit you. They raise the bottom by 1 every 3 levels, but raise the top by 3 every single level increase.
Yep a lvl 39 can hit down to 25, but me at 29 can’t hit 21 and a 26 can’t hit 20.
@left void I guess we are just not spending enough money
Highest level on the server I’m in is 39 basically once you are 25 everyone above you can attack you but you can only hit a level 21 and above.😜
They need to either re-adjust the pvp levels or allow people up upgrade their base defenses more than just whatever level they are.
i think that opeing up the pvp braket at 27 (28 sorry) would be a better idea, that extra dock and ship will be at least something to face the lvl39's. but ofc scoopley have to ensure the super whales (35+) are happy that they can raid the living hell out of everyone else.
extra dock is at 28
Does scopely read and respond in these forums?
This is so bad! Who needs 2* at this level?
<@&509690795536941056> A good discussion ⬆ above regarding PVP levels
I think the best solution for pvp levels is 1. Adjust the PVP bracket open it up at 28 sounds pretty good, but letting a level 24 ,who is just getting a kumari, get steam rolled by a 36 is insane 2. A level 25 has severely limited raiding options 21 and above and with no horizon yet they can’t raid much above 27 bc a Envoy won’t survive. Allowing an envoy to be able to survive against higher level bases would at least return some fairness.
@left void I tagged the community manager role
@ionic viper you can say the same about 25 with a strong Kumari steamrolling a 21....
@thin ridge yeah, we all wondered that too. Almost like a bad spreadsheet entry.
21-26/27 is a pretty decent range, as a 28 I might have a horizon but it can't really get into most 30+ bases, not at a cost that's making sense at least
@left void I know right?
A 21 has a good chance at defending against a 25. There is nothing on paper a 25 can do to defend against a 39.
Well... not unless the 39 brings out the realtas...
lol what is the 21 going to defend with? a baby Kehra?
and not like at 28 i can defend against a 39 either 😄
I had a Interpid (I think that's a level 32 ship) smash my base the other day, one hit and 3 of my ships were gone
Kehra’s are Kumari killers. I survived a long time with one parked in my base as an extra gun against roaming Kumaris.
@gentle goblet I agree but like @left void said earlier all in or nothing, you just moved the chokepoint at this point mid 20s are the new 15s
you might survive the 1st hit sure, but not more than that
all that the last change did is give the small players a bit more chance to level up
Ah hah!!! That’s the difference right there. Surviving the first hit prevents the raid.
at 24 with my Kumari I could smash 18s, that's like completely unfair since even with all their ships at home they don't stand a chance
@left void why? a horizon won't get into your base with a ship inside either way
so what's the difference if it takes one or 2 hits to crack your hull?
power destroyed you're better off destroying ships
I have seen a few 30s horizons at 400k+ cracking level 24s in one hit
and there are speedups, if your base has good RSS I don't mind using couple of hours of speedups to get in
@ionic viper with ships inside? my 180K horizon can take a 24 base with no ships sure
I am sure this has come up, but how the heck can scopely apply level restrictions for pvp to the 20 level players, but somehow it’s ok for a level 38 to hit a level 26? That’s 12 levels lower. Not even a contest.
Scopely is money hungry. Those high level players buy a lot from the store, and scopely want to make those happy, they don't care about the lower players.
they apparently don't care about those of us who spent a bunch of money and can't play anymore without rolling back, lol
also: LOL! I understand one of the bluestacks discord mods is taking credit for my apkpure fix to rollback the game client xD
Hey Scopely, how about offering a NS sale? I'm ready for mine.
they just had one... like 4-5 days ago
@broken swift don't get NS. It is shit
@fuzzytoad where? Maybe I'm not looking in the right place. Was it a very short offer?
The NS is shyt at holding cargo,
I count it as a combat ship
There ya go
Further, the NS, is even odds vs any ship negating the combat triangle.
Its as fast as or faster than most of the early 3g explorers
Its fairy cheep repair, and takes less time to repair than a comparable combat ship
It is a pocket battleship
Pokemon 🐐
This have has been pushed far too forward in the pay to play world. I get micro transactions but I shouldn’t have to pay $50-100 just to finish a mission. That is just straight crazy. Why not come out with some smaller $5-$10 transactions that are more targeted?
@delicate sentinel <@&509691205798592532> has Scopely considered a subscription model verses only generating through packs? Seems like from a revenue perspective your missing out on a more consistent and predictable revenue stream. Subs and trans ftw.
lol
@faint gate when you said revenue they are missing out on, scopely started crying...
<@&509691205798592532> This game is becoming more frustrating with each day. I'm currently level 26. My grade 3 ships have levels 20 through 30. I have only one rare grade 3 ship, the Northstar, at level 30. The rest of the grade 3 ships are just common ships.
To upgrade them to higher levels I need high volumes of 3* uncommon resources (crystals, gas and ore) and high volumes of trittanium. To repair them I also need high volumes of trittanium. The level 20 Kumari requires 55k of trittanium to be fully repaired.
The refinery is producing very few uncommon resources, and extremely few rare resources. In 2 months of daily game play I had obtained from standard refinery only 1 rare 3* gas and 2 rare 3* ore. The cooldown timer for the refinery is 9 hours. So after 9 hours I usually get from refining 12k of raw resources 10 uncommon resources and 30 common refined resources. The buildings and ships upgrades requires uncommon resources in the range of hundreds. It is insane. I won't live enough to reach level 50. The 3 ships that I have are not enough to mine for the raw resources to be refined, to mine trittanium and to fight battles to complete the daily tasks.
Not to mention that now I have many missions which requires for completion millions of dilithium or trittanium.
The producer of this game is squeezing money from us. And maybe I would use the microtransactions system if those would be micro transactions. But when a transaction is 20 euros and what you get is not enough to upgrade a ship I'm scared away from paying the money.
So Scopely, since you want our money so badly, do something to make the micro transactions system more enticing. Lower the prices, increase the gains from one transaction, do something.
@mint sedge as for dilithium - they gave enough dilithiunm to complete these donate missions
@halcyon frigate I have those mission at level 26. I had some of them since I was level 23. With what I have now there is no way I can hit such strong hostiles. I need two runs with my Kumari against level 32 Romulan explorers to complete the daily task of destroying 10 level 32 Romulan or Klingon hostiles.
And those two runs will cost me 100k trittanium because I have to repair my Kumari two times.
Well i notice bases are drying up. As 24 most i get from bases i can raids is between 500-1m steel (which i don’t need) 150-450k trit and 45 dil)
@long obsidian What are your repair costs (resources and time) after those raids? Is it efficient to do those raids when you factor in the repair costs?
@mint sedge if you have level 26 you do not need to kill 10 32 hostiles - it is based on your reputation in fraction, not on your level - so it is your misatke that you have reputation >1.2 mln and do not have fraction ship
I kill a lot of friendly-fraction ships to decrease reputation because i did not have fraction ship yet
@halcyon frigate Yes, I know that reputation level is the determining factor. But, in order to get faction ships you need to do faction daily tasks so that you get faction credits which in turn give you blueprints. But doing faction daily tasks you inevitably increase your reputation level.
@mint sedge you must decrease it
@halcyon frigate In order to get the Mayflower blueprints you need to be at least consort with Federation.
The same is true for Saladin and Antares.
if you have <1.2 mln you will get +12000 per day for a dailies, one 30 survey gives -620 to rep. So you need kill about 20 surveys per day
- you can take all faction credits that need to buy faction dhip, then increase your reputation more than 500k and buy it.
- You can live in 500k-1.2mln reputation and kill only 25 31lvl and 10 30lvl ships
and buy one bp in two days in average
@ISC ok, thank you.
Well @mint sedge i try to target shipless bases, there is only lose 5-10% of rss gained to repair, on bases with ships i lose up to 25% and i need to use speed ups
But without those raids there is no progress and can only option is to stop
Otherwise no option to gain rss needed to upgrade ships
And the main thing - is do not take a part in Faction daily event (where you need spend resources for a reputation). Only if you can complete it all, but I think that 30mln per day is too much to complete
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@halcyon frigate with the part regarding faction credits settled down what is your opinion regarding refinery output, cooldown time and regarding the micro transactions system?
i think that this 10 hours period is uncomfortable. 8 hour is better. As for the rest things - i don't know how much servers they have, how much moneys transactions, how many people works on it. We cannot offer something if we did not know business plan.
if salary of one programmer is about 3000$, and you have 100 programmers for example - you need 300 000 only on salary. 300 000 / 30 days = 10000$ per day from users
But a lot of people wants to play free and herewith wants a lot of content, fixes and other...
Game was started less than 1 year ago. I think the life of the project is about 5 years, but you want to take 50 lvl in a year? Some people already has 39 lvl. I think that developments is not ready for this
I have a better idea in regards to cooldowns
get rid of em and just allow a certain amount to be picked up of an object per daily period
except for the gift chests
@halcyon frigate the 10 hour cooldown used to be 12hours, allowing for 2 pickups per day
@halcyon frigate the same reason 24 hour cooldowns mostly (not all yet) got reduced to 22 hours
and you need more then just the money for the devs
@halcyon frigate I strongly doubt there are 100 developers assigned to this game only. The micro transactions prices would be justified if Scopely would have revenues only from this game, which I doubt.
you need money for their enviroment (building, power, management, it infrastructure, software) as well
@solemn coral yes, i understand this - but all this is too difficult to describe in one message, so I take only one thing for my example
If that would be the case, if Scopely needs this game to cover his daily operation costs and doesn't have any other products to sell, then maybe they should consider selling game subscriptions.
and with an announced revenue of 9m/mo, those 300k daily quite cover your 10k
apparently things are going well so far, since we do not see any ads in the game
if they didn't make huge profits, they couldn't have bought digit
Anyway, up until this game I haven't heard of any other online game with such pricey micro transactions.
I know a few
Try Need For Speed or FIFA
I don't pretend I'm very knowledgeable on this part.
I think scopely... not ... I am sure that scopely did not bring something new and they did not invented prices or offers. They do it like in thousands other games
but you need to understand one thing: paying is for the impatient
that paywall you folks moan about is simply marking the end of your patience
you buy a pack coz you are tired of waiting
But money to money - if you pay, you can permanently win (or be in top ) events and takes more and more resources.
you just think you advance quicker till you hit the next mental wall
so yes, I admire those true FTP players who made it to 29 etc
they are the proof you can grow in the game without spending any money
Sometime, a 3-4 months waiting to achieve just one goal in this game is a wait too long.
@mint sedge try an asian RPG Game, in some of those, it takes months just to go from level 1 to level 2
everything is relative - if 99% peoples are like you - waiting for a monthes - it is OK
so you think thegame MUST adapt to the requested speed/progress of it's players ?
I don't think so
And after you've waited, and played day and night to gather the needed resources, then comes a player with a fat wallet who bought himself some powerful ships and takes everything from you. 😁
i think there is a lot of players who simply like Star Trek.
use shields, you get plenty of them
Except when they bug and scopley doesn't reimburse
thats something else that disturbs me personally, their compensation policy
heya @delicate sentinel
But I think 1 thing must be introduced - you need something to do when your ship in warp or when you wait montthes - i think a lot of small random missions for a small prizes will be good
I do use shields, but there were a few times when the shield expired while I was driving for instance. When I reached my destination my base was in ruins.
I thought EA is bad, Scopley is the worst CS I have ever dealt with
@unreal sun Scopely is founded by a former EA employee 😛
That actually explains a lot.
The poor communication on upcoming events or changes, the terrible CS, the pricey microtransactions
😂 😂 😂 All things are now in place)))
"Earlier in his career, Javier served as Vice President of Sales & Marketing for Europe at JAMDAT Mobile, which was acquired by Electronic Arts during his tenure for $680 million. Javier helped build the JAMDAT business into a Top 3 Mobile Games Publisher in Europe. Following the company’s exit, Javier served as Vice President of Publishing at EA where he drove the brand’s global strategy and technology investments across the EMEA region, as well as expanded international distribution and closed a wide range of strategic partnerships with major IP holders. "
good career on paper💪
That says he joined in 2014, 3 years after founding
So not founder, but is a big wig now
yes, but co-ceo
founder is walter driver I think
also has an impressive background, I think disney interactive
so the company is not really some nerds in a garage that try to make a life
indeed, they kinda disappoint me in their execution of what they should have learned from the places they came from in regards to community management
And they take weeks to respond to things that should only take a few days with a full team working on it.
but thats where panic comes in 😛
yes, community is very sad
Community relations are pretty terrible
trust me, he is trying hard to improve things community wise
but he also has the hard task to convince the right people that the steps he wants to make, are in the benefit for all
and lets be honest, a company that exists for 6 years, making millions a month, it will be hard to get them to change
Maybe I am too old, but why Scopely uses such strange channels as official community - reddit, discord etc. Well that's not git
as they probably think: the numbers on the bank look ok, why should we change ?
Why they cannot make a usual website with a lot of content
That's the problem with all these freemium games. They make too much from people just dropping cash in a broken game
and they use them coz the gamers use those resources too
So they don't have any incentive to fix it
EA also is present on discord
Discord is the future, embrace it
Javier did not have free space on phone to install another app?)))
Its way better than IRC
irc would have survived if they continued to work on dcc voice/video
Maybe
We could all go back to ICQ
But on website you can place official information, notice about events, shop with gifts and a lot. Discord can be used for a chat and connection between players and devs.
I've used a lot of them over the years, including IRC
you can enable store in discord too
And discord has been the best
stores are just a special channel type in discord
in discord you must be logged in, website - is guest-oriented
you don't need to login
you can set that per 'guild'
you can join unregistered if you allow so as well
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you just define a nickname on first launch, but it does not require you to activate an account on it, thats optional
I need to go into the depths of the sand to think it over
had enough of scoopley abusing the push notifications, time for a report
So Antenna seems reasonably balanced... 2.5M trit for 22UC gas, 1000 recruits and 250 credits, auto destruct on the other side needs balancing...
What the mission asks of me and what I get in return are not even close to be fair
Is anyone here??
Any mission that tells me to "donate" to make the mission proceed makes me really REALLY want a "kill the intermediary, take his stuff and move on" option.
Any mission that has a donate option should also have a take by force option. We are independants, not federation.
just shut up and pay Scopely $50 for RSS xD
if only 50$ would get you 150M Steel 😄
Hello
hello, its good to be back, its good to be back
How 32lvl can hit 23lvl and i 23 cant hit 19lvl
Why is so
You say is new rules 2-+ lvl to attack
But is not so
who said the new rules are +-2 levels?
Its one months i think in update
yeah they changed it, but nobody said it's +-2 levels...
its to allow the sub20's to level up with less raiding ... then the higher lvl whales will be happy there are more targets ... everything in game revolves around the whales 30+
So is not fau'ir
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im sure they will pretty soon raise the minimum level for event participation, to try and force more people to level up to participate ...
just shield up, problem resolved 😄
@heavy river where do you pick up that mission?
Had it for some time , forgot where in Red one space I got it
Here’s another
That’s 200$ of tritanium
better spend 200$ on officer packs 😛
This is very annoying. I shoot thousands of brave 33/34 romulan ships over and over and just received 1 bp?! (gladius... Needed Centurion). This is bullshit. But i have now so many Kehra (wtf?) bp that I can build a bridge with them from romulus to earth. I understand that These should be rare blabla (you just want earn money) but this is just ridiculous
It’s a load of crap that faction fighters appear right in your path before you can even reroute. Crapppp
@slender fulcrum shoot the highest level in a system so if you are farming 34s do it in a 33 system not a 34 system
I know but i receive just crap
ikr? it's almost as if they're trying to get you to use some other means to get bps?
BP drops also seem to matter what ops level you have. I have farmed where people at 30+ have farmed for faction miner BPs and only gotten horizon. When they are pulling anteries vaklas and kvort
I have OPS and shoot in lempo over and over Lvl32 Roms and just crap received