I think they did... and the art person may or may not have color based issues
#š¬-general-feedback
cursive finch
nova sierra
Hall9000 please ensure that everyone in your art department is burned in green flames š
Down with the greens!!š¤®š¤®
blazing pivot
sage shuttle
@blazing pivot undock all your other ships then ask someone to hit your base to smash your ship
then you should be able to repair it
worked for me
option 2 is to open your research menu select something you know you dont have rss for and buy using lat the missing rss you need to repair the ship (just dont start the research)
ionic zodiac
New update is causing extreme lag and ships are being destroyed by trained fighters because they are not able to be moved. Itās a little ridiculous
dire minnow
Morning all. Is there a way to turn off this new animated battle? It was interesting to watch 1 time. Now just complicates tasks. Thanks.
fallow cave
Wtf? The game is almost unplayable now. Ever since the new update with these animations that we were all clamoring for the game lags, freezes and hangs. Canāt tell you how many times the game has hung when my ship enters hostile space. The only way to clear it is to reboot and low and behold upon logging back in youāve been destroyed by hostile npcs. Come on really? Then you have to spend valuable rss to repair and thatās not cheap if itās a faction ship. So considering that you sell resource packs for a ridiculous amount of money I have to wonder is this done by design? Is this consumer fraud or just incompetence? How can you release a patch in this state?? Utterly ridiculous.
hasty plover
@fallow cave We're I head of scopely for a day, I'd have to fire their quality assurance and testing department.
@fallow cave and who was clamoring for these animations? This would be like #135 on the list of things to fix or add lol š
fallow cave
@hasty plover Thereās NO WAY they have a Q&A dept. If they do they absolutely need to be fired. And that was my point, NOBODY was asking for these ridiculous animations.
hasty plover
Exactly! This horror show is wasting our resources, losing our expensive ships in battle, causing us to spend speedups and RSS, getting us stuck in locations where we cannot relo from to help other team members and fend off raids. The ships are broke, the Saladin has destroyed the faction and ship triangle. And they just keep raking in the money.
primal lake
humble heath
^ got that quest too, will stay like that until they fix it
modest kindle
@dire minnow same smersh from UKK? played with Pain and all that? š®
hexed socket
Please put showing alliance cargo on base and ship
civic turret
Scopleys more interested in their accounting department and all the money they are raking in. 100 bucks for a pack for a game that doesnāt work right. If you had a real life car like that youād get rid of it but instead you keep pouring money into it.
Everything about the game is designed to make you spend money
chrome aspen
Ok, so I buy a $20 pack and a $5 pack and now only $50 packs are available. I'm not spending $50 to $100 on pack. Offer cheaper packs or I'm not spending another dime.
hybrid elm
I build this module in order to get points for the upgrading modules event, and i get.... 700 points. I have spent 4 fucking days on boosters to get 700 miserable points. Scopely you sucks
storm hornet
Agree the points awarded for both station and research events make no sense whatsoever and are thus frustrating.
nova sierra
Ops 36 was 2500 points
35 day build costing 100's of millions
Siege warfare 61k points
limpid plover
<@&509690795536941056> any news on availability of the hijacked ships?
tiny cloud
@civic turret not true, people often spend more money on fixing car/house etc before buying new replacement in the hope they can avoid. Cognitive processing of economic assessments are frequently distorted due lack of complete information and varying context. (In case you are questioning my sources - I have a doctorate in cognitive neurology from Oxford university)
Itās something that gambling businesses have taken advantage of for years
And has its basis in operant conditioning (as initially reported in literature by R F Skinner)
frigid jolt
What???
weak sluice
<@&509690795536941056> Few words regarding the new update. I donāt care about the new animations, it made the game problematic beyond whatās acceptable. Even by my low standard that i came used to with this game.
We hunt reds and if the last red kills your ship, it ends in an endless loop and you have to quit and restart the game to finally be able to repair it. Otherwise you got a nice error message that leads to nowhere.
We warp back a ship from raiding, killing some ships (PVP or PVE) or just Warp back from mining and the ship does not āDockā we need to move it back in space and dock back in. Otherwise, same useless error message.
In-game chat is spotty at best. Comes and go like it does not care. Terrible for communication. Good thing we rely on something else to communicate among players (Discord namely)
Q/A is something that was overlooked badly in this release. Need to take your shit together and fix this.
frigid jolt
They will probably fix the issues you talked about in next update
weak sluice
Yeah, and introduce new bugs in the process. Q/A never was one of their concern it seems.
craggy hedge
@weak sluice <@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> <@&509691611903426561> Agree 100%. having to restart the game after your ship gets destroyed is a little extreme.
cursive finch
I move a ship, and that seems to work 99% of the time.
craggy hedge
@cursive finch well as a sandbox that should work. Lets get this game out of #AlphaTesting
weak sluice
@cursive finch How about making it right and not having to guesswork the basic game physics out of guesswork and dark magic requiring a Druid and some voodoo?
cursive finch
@craggy hedge And miss out on all these extra game features, to ensure we are paying attention??!! NEVAHHH!
@weak sluice Hey now, Watch it, I think the druids are watching, and have a special doll with my name on it... atleast that's the way it seems with the refi...
craggy hedge
rofl
weak sluice
@cursive finch Sorry, open comment, not toward you actually. Mostly toward <@&509690795536941056> <@&509691611903426561> <@&509691205798592532>
cursive finch
I am <@&509691205798592532> !!!
weak sluice
@cursive finch Then boom!
cursive finch
Now
weak sluice
Yeah, a leprechaun is watching over the refinery Iām sure...
cursive finch
ON a serious note, They are working on a fix for the ships bug, currently testing it.. I am hoping it is up and going soon ... becuase, that hurt during a base fight last night
couldn't recall to repair properly went from a few minutes to destroyed ship
craggy hedge
same here
weak sluice
@cursive finch Glad to hear this.
craggy hedge
they didnt test the original patch. why not just push it out?
i am ok with alpha and beta testing if everyone is just honest and upfront about it
cursive finch
It was tested. But, you have to remember just like any other company they test using a slim variation of devices. So, when it gets mass rolled out, to all the other servers etc etc etc unintended features crop up. I will say this, They ahve done decent on the last couple, so a borked patch was due. Just like any other MMO i've played something always rears it's head.
craggy hedge
@cursive finch Time for HR to get a new QA team then. this is a trend every patch......
@cursive finch agreed bugs always crop up. very expected. but base mechanics should be stable
cursive finch
The last couple seemed not as bad.. like there was an upturn, in the patches.. this one.. well... ouch..
It's like a black widow... looks pretty, but , she'll kill ya
craggy hedge
@cursive finch and this is why you fix base mechanics, bugs, and gameplay before adding graphics. keep a good control set. prioritize coding.
cursive finch
When you have mutiple teams working on different aspects of the game.. You don't always choose what comes first. I am sure , that this has been something worked on for a long time. And, when it was ready got released. Now, just like the random new missions that appeared awhile ago, and the other non-base mechanics that have happened. it is all based on timelines by teh devs for each team. This team finished their part, put it in, said it looks good, then the reality of the situation happened. And, now we are going to have to work through it for awhile while the back end coders do their thing to fix what the graphics people borked.
craggy hedge
@cursive finch Hey I get it, I am a programmer. I have designed server side and server client communication, and sql databases for MMO's. If Scopely wants an honest 3rd party look, I will offer my opinions for a great deal. It all comes down to design docs on how it all should work, fix in a modular means, alloc resources correctly, and don't live on bandaids. <@&509691205798592532> <@&509691611903426561> <@&509690795536941056>
You need a design doc, a roadmap, good programming convention, experience, and good management of such
also data packets need to be prioritized correctly. (QoS/CoS/ server-client side prioritization (what needs to be realtime and what doesnt)) I have seen improvement here but most looks to be workarounds by reducing frequency more than prioritizing. More over than that packet rates need to be reduced dynamically when the server or network connections start backing up. slow it down instead of causing chaos on the servers <@&509691205798592532> <@&509691611903426561> <@&509690795536941056>
civic turret
I love how people have to inject their two cents in on you comment just because they think they have a superior intellect and are quick to boast their credentials. I donāt have a doctorate from some university but I do have a Mensa level IQ. I never feel it necessary to throw that around.
cursive finch
@craggy hedge As we both know, when one company builds the engine, and another company trys to expand on that engine not knowing 100% of what they have in their hands (Look at early Unreal engine based games and the glitches in those for example). It can be a hard and painful process for the end user. I honestly believe that is why they purchased Digit , so there would be more of a fluid action between STFC/WalkingDead an the original engine creators. And, I am sure they have a roadmap. And, as we both know sometimes things go askew no matter how well they are planned out. Some times the bug is something simple ee 8f 01 dd de should be e1 8f 01 dd de type things just little fat fingered mistakes. That a small test team may not notice. Then you launch it. And now, that small test team is thousands of players... guess what gets noticed? It happens. It is unfortunate, I remember the early days of WOW, Shadow Bane, DAOC, Guild Wars, Etc etc etc... new patch huge bug new patch huge bug... but, as time went on, ti got better. Right now, we are still in the infant stage of this game. It will grow, it will get better. The biggest difference from this game and those is the P2W factor. Those were subscription based, 20/mo good to go. Here.. I know of a few players that are well in to the 5 digits in to the game. So, that is where alot of the outrage is, and I can understand it. I am here experienceing the same issues as you, playing the same game as you, maybe you or I have sunk more money in to it. but, we still share one thing. The love of the base game.
civic turret
Waiting for the restart event to start. Smh, facepalm
craggy hedge
@cursive finch Agree 100%
cursive finch
I am an old alpha tester / IT geek... got out of it and in to transportation.. less stress š
craggy hedge
@cursive finch If scopely is interested in low cost programmers with expert level ability in cleaning up code acquired from these kinds of situations I know where they can be obtained. show me the NDA
cursive finch
craggy hedge
@cursive finch I will consult or offer for free. not interested in a job for say. I will listen to offers though. Doing work in the space industry is mission critical and fits my bill, I will stay on that unless an offer is serious. @delicate sentinel
cursive finch
Welp, that to my knowelge is the only way to do it brotha, beyond that you might want to contact panic.
hollow spade
Awesome, they are gonna hire someone to patch their janky battle patch that has thrown more glictes into the game than I ever thought possible š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
sage basin
What's going on here! There's not even an associate in the federation. I've got several of these and now I've not met the requirement that doesn't even exist. This game is rigged. Every time I start on a goal you change it. I quit spending money because I figure next time to do that you'll change something because of that. I know this won't mean anything but I just wanted to complain anyway. Who knows, you might surprise.
And I ment OPERATIVE. Spill check.
sleek bluff
Here's an idea for you, Scopely: Instead of banning a player for 8 hours without reason and/or proper review, because an entire enemy Alliance reported one of their comments, how about - Ya know - you do your jobs?
Because that's a thing. Players are lodging mass complaints against other players, in order to get them temp. banned so that they can raid their stations.
chilly pulsar
Can someone please explain to me the purpose for rss vault protection on the station? My understanding is the your rss are protected from being stolen so long as it is under the protected amount and anything over that amount is up for grabs. Is this not correct? Because if it is correct, then this has not been working for quite sometime now. I really would love me to know please.
woeful gate
@sage basin thats just a visual error. Once you are operative with augments it will unlock.
nova sierra
@sleek bluff **There is no truth to this rumor. **
There is NOT an auto-ban function and Gala has backed this statement as well. Every ban is WITH reason and/or proper review.
solemn coral
@hollow spade shouldn't that be 'Coding for Dummies' ?
@sleek bluff official statement in regards to this is that every report would have been needing to get filed towards support using the ingame support requests, and thoroughly reviewed by a customer agent, NO autobanning exists in the game.
wheat oak
@nova sierra @solemn coral I don't usually have anything to say about support, but if they are faced with massive abuse of "report user", one could be excused for suspecting they will treat it like the massive abuse of "my shield dropped before expiry time" => blanket standard processing to relieve workload, whatever the true context
solemn coral
THAT might indeed be an issue they need to work on
especially when we have seen plenty of examples of ticket replies in here that barely touch the subject being asked
nova sierra
@wheat oak I understand that - but there's also little we or Scopely can do to prevent these kind of rumors other than contradict them with the facts when confronted. As such, Gala has made a statement that there is no auto-ban feature and we're trying our best to inform everyone of this.
frigid pebble
To jump into an unfriendly sector and be immediately killed by a trained fighter is ridiculous. 3 minutes into my my game this morning and I'm done. 2 1/2 hours of repairs after being in the sector 4 seconds
nova sierra
@frigid pebble We've posted some advice on this matter in #557163704383438850
frigid pebble
So there is advice for entering the edge of a sector, immediately setting course to go after a hostile and having a trained fighter appear in your path?
I couldn't have been any more attentive to my ship. It's not like i quickly checked on a miner and died. I just flat out died. So i won't be buying any speedups. I just will put the game away. This is the second worst implemented part of the game after mining for uncommon.
nova sierra
Oh I misunderstood; a trained fighter can indeed appear in your path. However, I'd expect that if you're paying attention - you'd be able to alter course to avoid it.
frigid pebble
Your assumption is wrong.
nova sierra
Well it's based on my own experiences. I believe all ships are faster than the Trained Fighters so I've always been successful in moving around them.
Aside the odd one where one spawns on-top of my ships - but that's only happened once or twice.
nova sierra
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frigid pebble
It happens a lot. I entered the sector. Scrolled. Picked an enemy. Clicked attack. And was immediately in battle and died.
And im done for the morning
lilac saffron
Those 10 seconds are crucial. I stay at the edge till it spawns then coordinate attacks
bitter wagon
Can I get a modās assistance? I have been banned and do not know what I did.
<@&509691205798592532>
Please? Someone?
I just bought two packs and have not, to my knowledge, broken any of the terms of service.
frigid jolt
What does it say in pop up?
unique glen
@bitter wagon they won't tell us anything on the basis of confidentiality. I'd suggest emailing to startrek-support@scopely.io and enquiring.
solemn coral
you need to contact support through startrek-support@scopely.io with that screenshot attached
due to privacy concerns only the affected person can make this request, as the details will not be released to others, not even us mods
frigid jolt
That is good
bitter wagon
Thatās great, but if CS takes as long as usual, Iāll be drained of $150 worth of resources and I donāt even know what I did.
frigid jolt
I think they will return your rss if you get raided during a ban. Is this right? <@&509691205798592532>
bitter wagon
@solemn coral or herself š
solemn coral
@frigid jolt only perhaps if the ban was unjustified
if justified, no protection will be provided
solemn coral
depends on the penaly and the reason behind it
again, to know more, the banned person has to ask support
frigid jolt
I assume they is no way they unblock a bot user right?
solemn coral
as the very existence of such a 'user' is against the TOS.. do the math
bitter wagon
I canāt think of anything. Iāve killed a lot of miners, but thatās about it.
But thatās only against the made-up rules.
solemn coral
@bitter wagon don't speculate if you think you have done nothing wrong, just contact support to know more
bitter wagon
@solemn coral yeah Iām just upset that I might be out of $150.
Shit. I think I figured it out. I think it was my alliance name.
Apparently it just changed.
frigid jolt
What is your alliance name?
solemn coral
probably something offending
bitter wagon
IRA with a backwards R
Itās my name in a mirror.
Which if thatās it, itās BS because thereās been an IRA on our server since day one.
solemn coral
discuss it with support š
bitter wagon
You know, a warning would be nice. Considering they claim to block offensive alliance names.
solemn coral
maybe the ticket was dealth with by an irish desker
frigid jolt
Are you the admiral in your alliance?
bitter wagon
Yes, I am.
@solemn coral if they were truly Irish they wouldāve liked it š
That was a joke.
solemn coral
anything supporting violence to get their goals achieved is bad
bitter wagon
I do not condone the actions of the IRA in its current form.
They are terrorists and deserve to get put down
frigid jolt
What is IRA?
solemn coral
Irish Republican Army
frigid jolt
So what is the problem in that?
bitter wagon
Former freedom fighters turned terrorists
solemn coral
google them to find out
bitter wagon
When the IRA split into the official IRA and the Provisional IRA, the Provisional IRA decided to be terrorists.
Yup. It was my alliance name.
solemn coral
so you got your answer and a resolution on how to continue ?
solemn coral
who replied it ?
bitter wagon
Mariela.
I asked them to tell me how exactly it violated it, and what section of the TOS was violated.
When I woke up, my alliance name had been changed to TAX and I thought I had been hacked or there was a bug. There was nothing to indicate that it was due to my alliance name being inappropriate.
solemn coral
Engage in unlawful, abusive, threatening, obscene, defamatory, libelous, harassing, hateful, violent, racist, or otherwise objectionable or offensive acts, whether by posting and/or transmitting such information through our Services, or by any other means (e.g., by posting links to such content).
this part of the TOS probably
bitter wagon
I did none of the above though.
solemn coral
guess the reason is that it is seen as an objectionable act, someone must have felt offended and filed a report with support, from where the action against you is originating from
solemn coral
yes, whoever filed the report did not know
and neither did the support desker dealing with the complaint
wheat oak
ira in French means "will go" 3rd person singular. hard to avoid offending someone in some language or other
bitter wagon
If it was because the tag IŠÆA, thereās been an IRA on our server for months.
solemn coral
@bitter wagon you need to convince support, not us
bitter wagon
I know. Iām just angry and venting.
solemn coral
maybe @delicate sentinel or @tepid nimbus can be of some assistance
bitter wagon
I sent him a message too.
I love this game. Ive been playing since launch. Iāve put thousands of dollars into supporting it.
solemn coral
he's quite busy, but I'm sure he'll pick it up some day š
bitter wagon
God this sucks
bitter wagon
@solemn coral they emailed back and they are refusing to tell me WHAT RULE I BROKE
@delicate sentinel PLEASE
I need help I am in tears please help me
They literally told me they wouldnāt comment on it and the decision wouldnāt be overturned
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> they are literally closing the ticket without replying to me
I am panicking right now I donāt know what I did wrong
nova sierra
I'm totally uninformed but it seems to be you were banned for having a name in violation with the ToS and after CS had changed this for you, you decided to change it back to as it was.
bitter wagon
@nova sierra I changed it back because I thought I had been hacked or that it was a bug
nova sierra
Well that's an odd presumption.
bitter wagon
There was nothing to indicate that was why it had been changed
nova sierra
Other than that it was.
bitter wagon
I was half alseep. Odd presumptions happen.
nova sierra
And it was changed to something like Officer928324 I presume?
bitter wagon
No. It was the alliance name.
It was changed to TAX
name was changed to Tax Haven
Description was changed to āwe collect the billsā
nova sierra
Oh I see - and I've also been reading up a bit so yeah, calling a collective group of people to something that could be associated with such isn't the best of moves. Still, mistakes happen - as such it was changed and you changed it back again.
When it was changed, before you changed it back - did you message CS?
bitter wagon
I did
nova sierra
Alright - PM me your PlayerID please.
bitter wagon
Even if that was the reasonāthere has been an IRA alliance on our server for MONTHS
nova sierra
the difference could be they were never reported, whereas you were, twice at least
bitter wagon
Yeah. Had it been clear that this had happened, I would not have changed it back.
rough dagger
Oh look another day watching 8 hours of repair timers. SOOOO ENGAGING. MUCH GAMEPLAY. terrible game design.
bitter wagon
@delicate sentinel @tepid nimbus please someone help me
They keep marking it as closed and wonāt answer my questions.
vast basin
That happened to me when I had a bug glitch. They couldnt find my name or info on the server to start with. After sending a copy of a payment statement (little splurging heh) they didnt respond in over a week. I emailed them back saying I uninstalled, reinstalled, fixed the glitch myself. And asked for a NS for the loss of game time and lack of response. They replied glad your issue resolved case closed. What a bunch of tools.
desert monolith
I hope yer not on my server, I will have to report ya if you are. There are very few things I find more offensive than TAXes!!!
I honestly would think the word TAX would be offensive no matter what country yall are in.
bitter wagon
āThis decision will not be overturnedā well itās really nice that Scopely wonāt even give me a chance to defend myself
bitter wagon
And now Iām being raided.
loud mulch
Tbh if scopely is banning ppl for a alliance name they should at the verry least let the leader of that alliance know that the ticker or name of the alliance is against TOS instead of just changing it to TAX ( in this case) without sending a message to the leader informing him or her the reason, its not strange at all that this alliance leader changed it back to what it was before ( its not like this game is bug free) and then just banning the leader when its changed back... Sounds verry odd to me and should be adressed.
bitter wagon
Especially because Iām getting raided right now
Too bad panic is too busy to reply to messages
nova sierra
Please don't spam this channel @bitter wagon . I'm sorry that you're getting raided but you can't be trying to force your issue like this.
bitter wagon
No. Iām giving general feedback about how scopely treats its customers.
Encouraging others to be very careful with how them name things.
Iāll stop for now.
nova sierra
OK, feedback received but again, don't spam and claim the entire channel to your specific issue. š
wheat oak
It's just another case of support not being willing to explain their actions. An admiral on our server just got an 8hr ban for something he supposedly said in chat but is getting no explanation. The ToS is so vague that you can be considered in violation jyst for sitting with your legs crossed or holding your mobile phone in an unacceptable fashion
bitter wagon
Can i comment on that?
craggy hedge
@wheat oak what did they say?
white axle
Yup I'm on the same server as Steve the player that made those reports has breached ToS himself with hateful abusive and offensive chat and private messages yet hes still free to carry on. Rules are fine and should be there but apply them to all not just the ones reporting as clearly people are trying to grief other player and get them commenting to get a ban.
The player who is banned did react and reply which is his mistake but he didnt take kindly to being mocked for being a full time carer for his wife who had a terminal medical condition.
Hes taken to sending people abusive and swearing posts on discord to try and avoid bans. Clearly trolling and trying to goad others. Perhaps it's worth having support review all sides of conversation histories and let players actually defend themselves even I'd they did snap and say something back.
bitter wagon
Also real quick lemme give @nova sierra a shout out for taking time out of his day to try to help a very angry lady. He could have just said āwell you shouldnāt have broken the terms,ā but he didnāt. He tried his best to help me and I really appreciate that and wanted to say so publicly.
nova sierra
Thank you, that's very kind. š š
white axle
See it's good when there is good support :)
bitter wagon
Well. Good mods at least. Support still wonāt tell me what I did wrong.
white axle
They need to get you in charge of support whip them into shape on delivering good consistent customer service
loud mulch
The Dutch are always kind @nova sierra
nova sierra
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bitter wagon
I am very concerned that the person who reported me did it with the intention of raiding me
This is a troubling trend.
gloomy lagoon
Please explain to me how hostile pve loot chests work. I am using an interceptor; I have only destroyed explorers or survey ships; the loot chest has solely battleship parts. Tell me, how to I get survey ship parts? Kill flying goats!
spark vale
depends on what level you are and what you can destroy. lvl17 systems in faction space (there are only three, part of the elite event counting damage points roughly a week ago) all drop pve chests nearly 100% of the time. they drop loads of officer xp and also grade 2 survey ship parts. and if you hit them enough you can also end up with parts to build extra envoys .. if you can hit higher than that look for traders in faction space they tend to drop survey ship parts but be aware systems have 3 levels of hostiles, -1, =, +1 .. so a lvl24 system will have lvl23, lvl24, lvl25 hostiles. the lvl23 are generally more pleantiful and lvl25 will be least likely to appear, but pve chests are the opposite, generally happening more frequently in the higher level hostiles in the system and less likely in the lower level hoostiles in a system.
the lvl17 faction systems are also nice because the have only one hostile type with consistent pve drops and generally speaking a short list of frequent parts dropped from their pve chests, randomly there are a few lesser likely bits
the non lvl17 faction systems also have the fun reality that hostiles can be extinct if one player is going after only one type/level/etc
I say 'extinct' because:
- a given system with multiple types of hostiles keeps a fixed number of hostiles, so if you kill one, it replaces it with one
- the replacement is randomly determined to be one of the types valid in the system. neutral systems tend to have one type and three levels, faction systems tend to have two types (one of battleship/interceptor/explorer and trader as the other) .. I can guess the percentages as 50% 30% 20% for -1, =, +1 but have not done the math nor have I have that verified. for faction systems you have then a roughly 30% chance of the trader being chosen vs one of the warship types of the system (some systems have multiple warship types also)
- so if you hit all lvl23 hostiles in a lvl24 system you will eventually hit the random number generator just right so that there will be no more lvl23 hostiles. until someone hits a non lvl23 hostile, and then you get another random round of getting one or not. hitting traders only in a system drives them extinct faster because they have a lesser likelyhood of being present.
one net effect is if you have a buddy who needs to hit lvl23, another that needs to hit lvl24, and you need to hit lvl25 .. find a lvl24 system and so long as you all keep hitting you'll all keep finding what you're looking for ..
hope that explains a bit and perhaps more than you were asking for but I have played long enough to figure out the above and perhaps some may find it useful to know
simple temple
I am getting really annoyed and angry with you (the developer) deciding what we as players are allowed to buy......every purchasable pack should be available for everybody to buy, itās the players choice to buy or not to buy, you should not be dictating to us what we can and canāt purchase!
I will NOT buy anything over Ā£19.99, as that is the limit I set for myself, yet you have decided, that because I have bought a few I shouldnāt buy any more and I should now pay more than double that amount for my next pack at Ā£48.99!
Who do you think you actually are to ādictateā what people should spend, you do NOT know our finances
This system of yours has to be changed as you are actually being prejudiced and discriminatory against people!
bitter wagon
@simple temple good luck
bitter wagon
I have to say, the attack notifications while Iām banned is just adding insult to injury.
cursive finch
At least you're getting them? Sorry, the best I got. I know John is doing what he can. A guy on our server got alerts for over 8 hours straight. Then again, I was annoying him for fun.
bitter wagon
Meh. Nothing more he can do. Iām emailing with scopely trying to get things worked out.
bitter wagon
Well Iāve already been zeroed so it doesnāt really matter now.
spark vale
@bitter wagon I wish that people reporting players was all it took to get them banned. we have four individuals I've blocked and reported and I still see them actively insulting people in GC .. sad but true, two players on our server had their mom's die of cancer within the last month. each one was 'targeted' in GC with reprehensable language that most ppl on the server were done with them idly sitting on a KoS list and wanted to actively target those players .. its really sad that the consequences of player ill behavior/language/etc is not clearly defined or uniformly administered. People like you that are, given your story here, innocent still looking to figure out what happened vs them who daily defile the GC channel and break any player made RoE and give vicious PM's to players are permitted to degrade the experience on the servers for many. Ugh... š
cursive finch
@spark vale A better way to report is take screen shots and send them in to Customer Service.
spark vale
aaaaah.... will consider that next time I am ready to hold my nose at the verbage
bitter wagon
Be careful though. I had a friend on my server contact CS to report someone for threatening to doxx themāand then my friend got banned because of their username.
The person that threatened to doxx my friend did not get banned, by the way.
wicked jetty
Hey, so shower thoughts, if scopely is able to disable a bugged officer this easily (carol), why do they continue to leave the killer of nodes, innundator of support tickets, stuck ship extraordinaire, vemet, untouched? <@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532>
solemn coral
@bitter wagon if it's life threats, have him file a police report, and have police contact scopely at startrek-support@scopely.io for related material, and notify a <@&509690795536941056> in private so they can prepare legal department for quick handling
nova sierra
Canāt go into specific details. But carol has a nasty side effect that would be worse than other issues. Basically.
So it may seem random. But it isnāt
bitter wagon
@solemn coral I appreciate the advice, but as of right now I have no faith in Scopely. At all.
wicked jetty
I'm not suggesting it's random, I'm suggesting it's in the players and scopely best interest to also disable vemet until he can be fixed
solemn coral
@bitter wagon and in regards to YOUR ban, have you heard back from @delicate sentinel yet ?
bitter wagon
Nope.
nova sierra
Iām happy to make that argument
bitter wagon
I have not.
Support wonāt tell me what I did that broke the TOS. And I got drained after buying two packs this morning.
solemn coral
if thats an acceptable mid solution for the players, I'd agree
@bitter wagon do you remember your playerid ? gimme that or the screenshot of your login fail in DM
frigid pebble
So.... your internet connection lags.. and a trained fighter kills you. Dumbest part of the game.
2 1/2 hours. 5 hours total today i won't be playing
It will be a long train ride. Anyone have a suggestion of a different game?
For classification for general feedback. This is the second time today
Clarification
bitter wagon
Yeah the lag has been bad since the last patch
solemn coral
@frigid pebble tip: you can edit your messages š
frigid pebble
I have nothing else to do since im not playing. Might as well just type it out.
solemn coral
just sayin' š
frigid pebble
Actually, since the trained fighter killed me, I'm reading a book. Not using speedups to fix a horrible part of the game.
solemn coral
they make you wait and you still stay indoors....
bitter wagon
Flooding where Iām at. I aināt going outside
river cosmos
That is super weird statement, a "nasty sideeffect" why cant you go into details and tell us what makes Carol different?
@nova sierra
We have officers that don't work like they should, others wildly unbalance the game, and still others who break nodes and ships like the above vemet. What is worse than that
spark vale
I .. am so glad I haven't updated my app yet.
ripe plover
naive wyvern
Hiya, Can you allow extra days to open the monthly packs. i still login daily but i open the packs at different times due to various reasons. i have excess tokens for June because of this and I have noticed another additional pack for July appear in the store today and unless i login religiously to open these at the same time everyday. it means that i will have tokens go to waste every time i double up. I will not double up any further because of this. I have never had an issue with this until June which i assume you reduced the amount of days allowed to open these? Many thanks
Also, is there any ETA when the reduced cost of faction ship upgrade research will be fixed?
nova sierra
@naive wyvern
31 days left on June packs
faction upgrade research is functioning also, but it's more like a cashback system, ie if you get a 30% cost reduction, you pay 10mil tri and instantly get 3mil back
bitter wagon
Oh interesting. So I would still have to have the original amount of trit?
nova sierra
Yeah you need the 10mil but only takes 7mil if you get me
bitter wagon
I do. Iāll have to look closer at that when my ban ends
humble heath
when does it end? 0.o
bitter wagon
11:30 am.
gentle goblet
@nova sierra do you know how does the faction research stacks up with pure dil/trit?
All of them goes up to 100% which is interesting... š
nova sierra
Looking forward to free upgrades so š
gentle goblet
how far are you from it?
humble heath
lol free upgs :))
nova sierra
Very, I think lv4 is gated at 7mil rep
Nope, lv4 is 1.4mil rep
@nova sierra how's your faction ship structure research?
I've completed it now that I see it is simply mislabeled.
Well, completed it as far as I can
Next gate is 12m rep. Which isn't possible to attain right now
So what lv/percentage?
43%
Things seem to cost ~1/3 of what is displayed.
Since it compounds with other research.
Ty sir
gentle goblet
so 43% faction and how much for the pure trir/dil?
nova sierra
My Tri is lv7 56%, Dil just going lv8 68%
bitter wagon
If Iām dealing with support and they arenāt being helpful, can I ask to speak to a supervisor? Is that a thing that happens?
cursive finch
One would make the assumption you can, what the results would be, I am not sure ...
bitter wagon
Well I just tried
I think I deserve to know why I got an account ban. I donāt think thatās unreasonable.
If I ever quit playing, it will be because of customer service. I can deal with the bugs, but this is ridiculous.
cursive finch
Best of luck! Honestly!
bitter wagon
I really do appreciate all the moderators who have tried to help me.
cursive finch
We do what we can, but, our powers are limited š¦
bitter wagon
I donāt suppose you can convince support to give me back the resources lost while i was banned š
Considering I never actually broke any of the terms of service
cursive finch
Unfortunatly, that is the limitation of our power, we can beg and plead, but, that is as far as we can take it. All decisions are all made by people above us.
bitter wagon
All I can get is that someone was offended by the name. It makes it seem like saying āIām offendedā is enough to get someone banned.
craggy hedge
@cursive finch good question. who at Scopely would we want to contact if someone wants to expedite something higher?
bitter wagon
The terms of service actually tell you
Granted, I emailed them a day ago and havenāt heard back
craggy hedge
@bitter wagon ya. thats just legalese. how about a person or persons who can be contacted
cursive finch
That is a valid question, I will inquire to see if these is an escalation email address available.
modest kindle
lol they will never give that out š
can you imagine the carnage
or it will be a premium phone number at 19.99 a minute
craggy hedge
@modest kindle it can be an email or contact the moderators give out when they feel it is necessary
bitter wagon
It looks like they reported me with the intention of draining me.
craggy hedge
@bitter wagon turds
bitter wagon
Its because I didnāt
I really need to speak to @delicate sentinel or @tepid nimbus
craggy hedge
@bitter wagon I am so sorry you are a victim of someone using the vehicle designed to protect people as a tool to attack you. This is so not right <@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> <@&509691611903426561>
bitter wagon
Donāt spam the mods. Theyāve been a wonderful help and canāt really do much more for me.
Would be nice if I could talk with Gala or Panic tho
frigid jolt
Panic hasnāt been in here for a while and I never saw Gala in here
bitter wagon
I miss q2
craggy hedge
Gala is more passive
frigid jolt
<@&509691205798592532> can we talk with Devs some how?
unique glen
@frigid jolt not directly, no. However they do read what's posted here and mods do have some limited access, so we pass on info as necessary š
bitter wagon
I need to escalate this. They are not being helpful. I did not break any rules and got banned and drained.
@delicate sentinel @tepid nimbus I am begging for your help.
frigid jolt
@unique glen then please tell @bitter wagon situation to big guys
bitter wagon
Donāt spam the mods. Several have already tried to help me, which I appreciate.
unique glen
@frigid jolt we have. Repeatedly. They can't give us any details due to confidentiality.
bitter wagon
They canāt do anything more than I can, really.
And they canāt tell me what I did wrong because confidentiality.
frigid jolt
So what they can tell to you?
bitter wagon
That I got suspended.
frigid jolt
If they dont tell the problem to anyone,how you can solve this situation
bitter wagon
And that I should think very hard about what I might have done and try and guess
craggy hedge
@bitter wagon STOP with your dont spam messages. if it were spam we would be using @ everyone or @ here
bitter wagon
Which it wasnāt
My alliance name was Irish Space Army
I sent no threatening or vulgar PMs or chat messages at all
My username is madmiral
Thereās no ToS breach
unique glen
They reviewed it. Confirmed it. But without knowing anything more, I can't comment.
bitter wagon
Fortunately I have a trove of emails of them refusing to tell me what I did wrong.
They confirmed it but they wonāt tell me what it is
craggy hedge
@bitter wagon well the decision has been made. sorry for your luck. i get it probably sucks. it is a perma ban or only for x time?
unique glen
I know. Since they cite confidentiality at you, I would assume it must involve another player. But that is an assumption. I really don't know.
bitter wagon
Iām back in now. But Iām not giving up until they tell me what I did wrong.
@unique glen the only thing they will tell me is that my alliance name violated the ToS. They wonāt tell me why or how it did
craggy hedge
@bitter wagon maybe asking for a server change is a better avenue.
frigid jolt
Ahh,I think the guy who raided is working in Scopely
bitter wagon
So now Iām afraid to change my alliance name again because I have no information on what makes a name violate the ToS
craggy hedge
@bitter wagon I dont think scopely will let you know what someone else said, nor should they. it is just the way it is for them to protect themselves and the community. unfair as it may seem
unique glen
At this stage I can't see you getting any other answer. Keep plugging away via email or whatever, but there's nothing further we can do here. And posting here changes nothing either. I'm sorry.
bitter wagon
I donāt want them to tell me what someone else said. I want them to tell me what I did wrong.
craggy hedge
@bitter wagon as I said. if you feel you were treated unfairly then make a case to have them move you to a different server to separate you from those people
bitter wagon
You know why? Because I didnāt do anything wrong
kindred sequoia
They will never say because then it opens them up
They donāt have to share as per the Eula were all part of for playing
Itās sad but true...
craggy hedge
@bitter wagon its not because you did or did not do anything wrong. it is strictly confidential for all parties
kindred sequoia
Until someone takes legal action and discovery forces them to do something they arenāt going to do shit. Itās just bad corporate practice, period.
craggy hedge
@bitter wagon HUGS sorry about having to deal with all that
bitter wagon
I know itās about confidentially. But i didnāt break any rules and was still banned and drained. I am going to continue through email until I have a satisfactory answer or until I get my resources back.
craggy hedge
@bitter wagon I get the ban, possibly but drained..... they could have at least shielded you during the ban
I recommend during temp bans that a courtesy shield be given for the term of the ban plus 12 hours <@&509690795536941056>
bitter wagon
I donāt get the ban.
And since I have no idea what i did wrong, thereās no guarantee that I wonāt do it again. So I am afraid to buy any packs.
craggy hedge
@bitter wagon now thats fair.
@bitter wagon I bet a Bortas that someone lied or Photoshop'ed something
bitter wagon
Like I said, Iād bet it was one of the people who drained me.
nova sierra
@craggy hedge @bitter wagon This channel is for general feedback yet has been nearly dedicated to this specific issue for the past 24 hours.
I'm going to have to shut this discussion down.
Appeals can be made via PM'ing a CM as for the issue itself. The fact that there is a queue and a response takes time is irrelevant. Do not tag them in these public channels any further.
If you do not agree with this message, you can send your objections to either me or one of the other moderators.
Thank you for your time.
š
craggy hedge
i am done discussing this. I would send a formal email and hope for the best. good luck
nova sierra
Via PM to each other if you want to continue.
Any further questions, via PM too please.
bitter wagon
A different subject: it would be really nice if there was an easier way to gain/lose faction rep. I started playing on day one and didnāt realize how beneficial it was to be positive with more than one faction until it was too late.
cursive finch
^^^^^_AGREED!!!
bitter wagon
Iād do missions, but Iāve done all of them that I could BEFORE the mission rewards were increased.
cursive finch
Yea, that is a sore subject with me
bitter wagon
The only missions I hadnāt done when they increased the rewards are the ones that require warp 60 or kill an enemy with 1 mil power
That was a really crappy thing. Increase the rewards, but not retroactively.
cursive finch
Yea, and with them doing it once before, but not this time.. frustrating the player base something fierce
nova sierra
Pretty sure some sort of 'Betrayal' mission was pitched and received positively by Designers in the Reddit AMA a while back š¤ Should pitch again in next one š
nova sierra
Source: http://bit.ly/AMASTFC
cinder sluice
Is there an official FoE for the game?
bitter wagon
FoE? @cinder sluice
cinder sluice
I meant RoE
tough sable
Plz make the D3 larger, lol... Iām colorblind and itās increasingly difficult to see them other than the triangle and/or their tag
unborn mauve
@cinder sluice no this game doesnāt have an roe, each server seems to have some form of roe but it is created by the players
wicked jetty
@cinder sluice if the game let's you hit it, that's the official roe
cinder sluice
Thanks.
bitter wagon
Itās stuff like this that irritates me. I have to kill ten of these for a mission. Ten. I likely will never be able to complete this mission. And this is the first mission in a chain of missions.
Plus now I gotta destroy this ship because of a choice I made where the other choice wouldnāt have required a battle at all. So, I canāt destroy this ship. So another quest I canāt finish.
Had I had any indication it would be that undoable, I would have made a different choice.
nova sierra
You found the easy ones Haha
Who wouldnt want to spend 50 mill tritanium to get 3.1 mill parsteel?
Tribble robbery mission
Shadow sword mission
Space race mission
I dont understand the logic of such huge escalations in mission requirements
bitter wagon
I get giving people something to work towards, but thatās just insane.
unreal sun
yea, that has bothered me a bit too, especially with the way the quest stores are told
"They are powering weapons and engaging, we should strike now!"
uhhh... hold on, I need more power, let me come back in 2 months
"Sure... I'll just be here... floating in space..."
bitter wagon
2 months? More like two years.
tranquil pelican
Pretty sure some of these missions were written with lvls 40 >50+ in play, market could explain high rss & higher ships & crews could possibly account for these beasties
nova sierra
Scopely should make more missions that levels 25 to 35 can complete. Our server doesnt have anyone level 40+
frigid jolt
There is a limit in lvl.You cant pass 39 @nova sierra
nova sierra
Good to know. But it doesn't change my opinion that the requirements to complete missions are way too difficult for most players
gentle goblet
@nova sierra I'm fairly certain a 34/35 with an epic ship upgraded would be able to finish those lol
There's just not enough missions in the game...
bitter wagon
For those that were wondering: you can ask for a supervisor in support. That supervisor will then ( very politely ) tell you to eff off and then close the support ticket.
frigid swan
So how long till the Saladin gets whacked with the nerf stick
placid zealot
Lvl 14 and below PVP is lame. Need to be able to hit pvpāers bases. Also that lvl 20 event stunk. Im lvl 19 and was farming rss. No chance for any points. Boo.
jovial cliff
I need to finish a mission in Heuber, but there are no hostile ships in that system to attack. Therefore I cannot complete it.
hallow pumice
@jovial cliff try attacking hostiles in a different system, or in the system of the last part of the mission
jovial cliff
I have already tried that. No result.
hallow pumice
Hmm.... Well I completed the mission, so I think your missing something
I know there will be another mission after that one, it'll have another 3 kirk shards for offer
half sleet
Try resetti g your game
agile rune
Such gold diggers can't even guarantee me 10 uncommon a day from two single batches of refining when it takes me 1500 uncommon for one tier of a ship That's still almost 6 months of refining and I can't even be guaranteed that it really makes sense that it would take a year to upgrade a ship one tier
bitter wagon
Youāve got to be kidding me. We need more faction missions that are actually doable.
hallow pumice
@bitter wagon they want you to pay money so you can get a epic ship, or a "soon to come" 4* ship
bitter wagon
Or weāve all been duped into playing a beta
hallow pumice
@bitter wagon this is the beta, alpha was before this, with more ships in it
bitter wagon
Nah I played the closed beta. There is more content, letās be fair.
hallow pumice
Lol, yeah I know, ive seen the kelvin, the valdore, Newton, and korinar
bitter wagon
But seriously. <@&509690795536941056> weāve had plenty of mining events and Data events and dominion events. We really need some more faction missions that the average player can actually complete.
cursive finch
@bitter wagon from your keyboard to panics eyes
cursive finch
I know. I am pushing for the same thing.
bitter wagon
Or...make that missions reward change retroactive
Actually wait
That would seriously mess up peopleās rep
Yeah donāt do that, new missions would be fine
cursive finch
Lmao I would be willing to redo all the missions. Just for the difference in rewards
bitter wagon
I wish there would be some clue in choices. āIf you choose this one you have to fly for twelve seconds over to that planet in the system youāre already at. If you choose the other one you have to kill a 2 mil power ship.ā
I chose...poorly
hallow pumice
Think you went for the better reward
bitter wagon
I did, yeah. But the difference in actions needed are insane
hallow pumice
Yep, kill a 70k ship, or donate 100k dilithium
bitter wagon
That is nothing
Donate 1.5 million raw ore. 10 million dilithium. 45 million tritanium. Kill a 1.2 million ship
cursive finch
Iāll be honest. I vaulted a couple mega whales to do the tri n dil missions.
bitter wagon
I would love to but our server is broke
A few people have 1 billion or so trit but thereās no one else worth raiding
And those few donāt get caught unsheilded
cursive finch
Everyone slips up.
hallow pumice
@bitter wagon you've gotta do the small hits, slowly stack up on rss, even if you only get 100k trit from the raid
robust dragon
The player gap is awful. So so so bad. And you guys know it. That's why everyone stops playing at about 19 to 22, game is so uneven.
craggy egret
Even a player just 1 level above you can sometimes have a massive power gap overy you, especially if they got a new ship at that level.
nova sierra
Yep a 28 with money to burn hitting a 27 is no contest tbh...
solemn coral
@bitter wagon stop investing in domino's š
bitter wagon
I woke up thinking there was new content and then got really sad
worldly kraken
I have some general feedback
worldly kraken
Manage those systems better people. Announcing an event in game accidentally and retracting it is a complete joke.
bold sentinel
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nova sierra
Mh... The Franklin is a trick to get our best... The money. Pls scopely, no new content, get the rest of the bloody game done!!!
somber dew
Yes, please Fix existing content (officers, for example) before worrying about adding more useless content.
nova sierra
Marketplace, Armada, that all EXISTING content which is not released to bleed us out
inner umbra
I want to be able to trade with my and other alliance's. Par, Tri & Dil.
nova sierra
Marketplace is unlocked at lvl50
gentle goblet
@nova sierra how is armadas or market an existing content?
Besides the placeholder...
waxen berry
Scopely's bad attitude is common knowledge. If you still investing into the game then that's your choice.
nova sierra
During beta they must have tested that and decided it's to buggy or sth
I don't pay anyway, maybe when they get sth done
wicked jetty
@somber dew Yea a daily way to get at least a mil trit is useless š
nova sierra
@weak marten wonder if you can dm me when youāre free, we have a problem on our server you may be able to help with. Youāve been speaking to my mate @lilac pond
warm plover
- Avatar icons : having player icons next to chat names in profiles would help bring more player customization to the game. Right now we're all just star trek symbols
- Custom base skins: right now we all have the same base barring upgrades. Let us change to a different appeaing model on the system map, but retain the current model in station.
- More emojis! There are sjmple not enough emoji ingame to express my emotions towards other players#
- Friendly dueling. I would like to duel against friends or alliance members to test my builds.
- More alliance projects / quests. Non-competitive. If your alliance manages to kill x hostiles or recruit x players, or gather x rss.
meager osprey
how about they fix the game-breaking bugs first? How many people with bugged stations that can't move do we have to have before they address it?
nova sierra
Coming Soon. The great BOYCOTT FOR UNCOMMON. š
dense canyon
@nova sierra also sensor tower is unlocked and shield generator. Buildings that have no sense. Those are all some remnants of abandoned development. Do not think you'll get any marketplace at lvl50. That level is not reachable anyways, you need nonexistent content to build it.
@warm plover emojis are cancer
unborn steppe
39+ content would be teh win...I'm not there yet, but once that was done a full 10% effort could be given to fixing bugs.
craggy egret
Please do 39+ content, it will get all the bullies out of our faces for a while.
lvl 39 drops their base into a system, one-hits every base they can with superpowered survey ships and drains them on the first hit.
Then they go around killing every miner on the server multiple times for 2 or 3 hours on end.
3 levels! just 3! it's not right that a lvl 32 can hit a lvl 22. there's no defense against that, none! make them fight players that can actually do some damage to them.
Or let us change servers so we can get away from this rampant bullying.
storm hornet
Level actually has very little to do with ship strength
A level 28 can have an 880 Sally
A level 30 can have a 650 faction miner taking 3.3M every hit
The fact that those guys are 39 instead makes very little difference.
gentle goblet
Indeed... it's not the pvp range that is the issue
copper girder
<@&509691205798592532> for my mental sanity and to save the lives of those around me can we please remove or have an option to disable double tap warp? Pretty please with sugar on top?
unique glen
Hell, I wish! I'd sacrifice a dozen goats on that altar...
copper girder
Human sacrifices are off the table?
azure holly
Double-tap needs an "are your sure?"
copper girder
There is a nice one tap green button already, no need for double tap at all
Except to endanger innocent bystanders
copper girder
Itās the quicker way to waste 40 minutes if you are scanning a system across the galaxy and it triggers by mistake while you scroll
Tap and move the finger one cm to 2 oāclock and tap again, how much more time does it take?
gentle goblet
lol just saying it has its uses, when you want to run away for example...
copper girder
I donāt run away
pastel hazel
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copper girder
lilac saffron
Oh, stealing that gif lol
fluid granite
pastel hazel
But a whole 3%! š
bitter wagon
Iāve had to pay 500 uncommon for a 0% before!
sudden glade
@storm hornet naw ur missing alot of research I doubt it be that high on Saladin..
storm hornet
True, missing some research. Still, the ops level doesn't add much offensive power. It mainly adds base defense. Ship upgrades are the biggest source of offensive power. Research is based on tier 1 numbers so it's ok but not great.
nova sierra
Yesterday's announcement mentioned a lot of systems that dont appear on the map yet, my money is on a map update
analog bolt
Hereās my Sally. This is the 2nd one with 800 UC Crystal.
Why would a Federation ship require so much crystal? From an IC standpoint it shouldnāt.
storm hornet
It's an interceptor. Agree in the sense of lore it's kinda like Wut? Lol
analog bolt
The packages would require me to buy 4 @$100 each to buy it from the store for each 800 component. I am not spending $800 to upgrade two components.
storm hornet
Let's build a ship that requires tons of Klingon resources!!! š 
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But in game all interceptors need lots of crystal
analog bolt
Itās stupid and not an IC reason for it.
storm hornet
On the one hand it's good that not all ship types use the same resource. On the other hand crystal is still used too much IMO.
Every faction miner also needs it.
So it's by far the most scarce.
It would make a lot more sense and be more balanced if the faction miners, at the very least, used the resources they gather, rather than all using crystal.
analog bolt
Hereās my In Character response: How does one get a commodity to develop technology that the commodity doesnāt exist in your galaxy/systems where you mine. If you have to buy it with in game credits, I can understand that.
wicked jetty
Yes, crystal is definitely a painful choke point. I'm sitting on 1500 unc ore and nothing to spend it on. Gas I'm low on but it's propelled my cent high. Crystal is holding my Saladin and horizons back, and I don't even want to go ops 30 because wasting crystal on drydocks and shipyard
gentle goblet
yep... they should have balanced miners across all 3 UCs... on the other hand more buildings needs gas/ore than crystal
muted swift
Not really...between drydocks shipyards and hangar your base takes quite a bit of crystal
gentle goblet
Yes but still there are more for gas/ore
All the labs needs gas, vaults/wearhouses ore
Defense platforms also gas
cinder garden
Mission to hand in 1.5m ore. Wtf are your devs smoking?
wicked jetty
True, but the buildings that take ore are of dubious importance
The buildings that need crystal and gas not so much
storm hornet
@wicked jetty the buildings that take ore are almost completely useless, but nevertheless required for the next ops level.
wicked jetty
Yep
copper girder
Point remains, as Federation the only ship that counts is the Saladin and that is a total cost of 5k crystals? Then you have the surveys you might want 1 Antares tier 4 and an horizon tier 9 for warp 40, tons of crystals again... then you have the bloody shipyards and drydocks ... between lvl 26 and 32 you would need 10k crystals give or take. It. Is. Insane!
Yeah and the refinery gives me 8 a day if I am lucky
Iāll get there when I am retired
wicked jetty
Yep. Ive stopped even buying the elite token pack, because the amount of uncommons given vs the need to continue progressing is not in line with a $100 value
It I buy it, It still doesn't let me actually upgrade anything
So I'm just throwing money away
dense spruce
Anyone else notice the July and June elite pack gives you one set of 50 uncommon gas and another set of five? Yet when you check an item that requires gas it only increased by 5. Am I missing something?
nova sierra
The 50 uncommon is 2 star. The 5 uncommon is 3 star
wicked jetty
@dense spruce the 5 is 3* the 50 is 2*...
dense spruce
Figures. Thanks. No wonder I can't get anything built.
hasty plover
I'm level 31 WTF am i going to do with 2*?
trail solar
Why is lvl 24 refinery giving g2 ore?
lilac saffron
It doesn't stop till lvl 26, then its all g3....
hallow pumice
Really? Can't be level 25????
humble heath
gz on your refinery lvl 24 @trail solar , yep it sux all right giving *2 when you need *3 at that level !
gentle goblet
wait... do you not still upgrade your Talla cause no Kumari yet? š š¹
undone hatch
@delicate sentinel Since one week we have a āsituationā at our server (149). We some strong players that are bullying nearly all other players. Because they want to push through their rules. As āpunishmentā they are framing all other mining ships. They are not insulting directly, but bullying other players and other alliances. Since that started a lot of player left the game and for small and mid-range players it is almost unplayable. Because you wouldnāt get any ore, gas and crystals. So you canāt make any progress. Also a lot of players informed the support but nothing is happening. My question is, is it okay for Scopely that big players are continually bullying other players to get what they want? Those player are toxic for ānormal playersā.
bitter wagon
Called it.
candid plank
@delicate sentinel I'll expect a compensation for the 24h shield I just wasted...
bitter wagon
Same here
nova sierra
Yes on cash shop š
timber sable
@bitter wagon like that will happen my love
bitter wagon
Yeah most games have the decency to give compensation when they mess up. Apparently not scopely
torn river
@undone hatch Yes, Scopely believes this is ok. As long as the big players are spending money, they could not care less what happens to the rest.
timber sable
@bitter wagon if scopely has taught us anything.. it's that our tears are their favorite currency.. well that and of course that stuff in our bank accounts. Oh well.. I'll just go back to no pants and my hookah
nova sierra
Sociopathic behaviour by Scopely
hallow pumice
faint gate
@delicate sentinel @tepid nimbus does Scopely have a beta program where players can signup and test builds through test flight so that we can help with these types of issues before release day?
sullen ginkgo
I believe in supporting the games I play, but this is definitely one of those games where it only makes sense to spend $5000 and be on top, or $0 and be content. I spent $20 early on and soon realized how pointless it was.
Now I am ready to go level 25, but donāt have the unc ore. Kumari is 180K but I donāt have the unc ore to go higher, and my open research items both need unc ore.
Does the game pretty much end at level 24 for free to play?
wise urchin
Great timing to stick the maintenance 30mins before a big event ends ššš
strong shard
I've spent close to $100, and the return on investment is minimal. You can still progress if you find yourself at a good level during events like the faction killing/separatist events to kill for uncommon (when I say good level I mean you're not ops 28 with no faction ships, because then you are useless and can't kill 32's for 20 points,) and do the monthly loyalty chests for uncommon.
I'm ops 28, have centurion and bortas, so its something I guess, but I've also not been able to tier up my vahk/kumari/kehra in order to save uncommon for the buildings.
rough dagger
@trail solar because scopely is greedy and wants you to spend to get ore to upgrade your base. Also their quest QA is non-existent
normal kiln
@delicate sentinel really? Less than 30 minutes announcement for a 2:30 hours manteinance?
Why are you trying to push people leave the game?
This is non-sense
forest raven
Thx Scopely for the short notice of maintenance. Thx to give me a chance to active my shield again. Thx for nothing!!! š”
hallow pumice
Guess you better be ready to hop on quickly
@forest ravenā¬ļø
Getting scopely'd is fun
(Sarcasm included)
forest raven
I would if they tell me when they ready to relaunch. But they can't. Never played a game with so many bugs inside. But it's more important for them to bring new content then fixing the bugs.š¤
craggy inlet
Your announced update timing is completely off. Now pretty much everyoneās base shield timing is off and a lot of ppl are going to get raided bc of it and lose lots of rss! This is a significant F up!
forest raven
In this case they should give everyone a one hour shield if no shield is activated.
vast basin
Deleting this channel. Too many discords to have a useless one that doesnt help.
nova sierra
Why can't you use CET for the time of maintenance in Europe? You use all kinds of incomprehensible time zones.
faint gate
@delicate sentinel is there a full list of the ranges that players can attack each other?
hollow nymph
@nova sierra I just happened to live in the time zone that they used and I thought it was pretty nice. Since it is a worldwide game, you can't make everybody happy. If you have access to Google or other search engines, it's not hard to figure out the difference
bitter wagon
@delicate sentinel can we have a scale for attack ranges?
marsh nebula
@delicate sentinel <@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> maybe include the old range for lv19 attacks? So now the range is lv17 till lv21.
Also ... As lv16 i can be attacked by lv21. I guess this means you changed more then lv19?
As IT would be sooooo weird if lv16 can still be attacked by lv21
cinder garden
Making this sort of change with no prior warning is a bit crap. Why is it so difficult to have full patch nodes ready before each release is deployed? We're really not enjoying the surprises..
nova sierra
For the whole world, the time should be GMT.
faint gate
@delicate sentinel <@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> , this is what Iām talking about when it comes to reinforcing what @weak marten had previously had in one of his videos. Yes, Panicās job is to provide the platform and the channels. But the game needs to provide more structure for the information going out to the public instead of getting it in dribs and drabs. Games like PoE had similar growing pains and they finally got it that more information to the community is better than less. And more timely information that is updated frequently and adjusted as needed would have more forgiveness from the community that all of this stuff is fluid and Scopely changes stuff here and there as they see changes that are needed. These are all good things. But this black hole of nothing or the perception of very little is unacceptable.
bitter wagon
I would really really like more details on the PvP rebalance @delicate sentinel
marsh nebula
@cinder garden i enjoy it
I really got into a stfc depression when a lv21 stole like 30 mil from me
This news made me come back from it faster
But yes. More details plz
cinder garden
Meh. I don't mind if they change the level ranges, just pre-announce it. Along with whatever other changes haven't been discovered yet..
marsh nebula
Share all brackets plz
slow bramble
They probably donāt really know. Some dev thought it was a good idea and checked it in and then forgot exactly what they did.
summer agate
So I am a 29 and #2 in power destroyed. You telling me that now I moved out of range of my meat! Thatās no good what happens when g3 is over run by smalls us big boys canāt kick off of high mines. I will be asking for my money back scopley.
I been playing since launch. You donāt change core factors we all been dealing with
versed adder
Please provide details of the level bandinfs that players can attack. One example that suggests + or - 2 levels is BS
nova sierra
Scopely uses BST (British Summer Time). Once again the British think they still rule the world. Throw them out of the EU.
versed adder
Learn to add by 1 dude and quit whining.
dim valley
As much as I find the bigger fish annoying I agree with the new target levels being to shallow in both directions š¤
wind nebula
so in our server (149) we needed this patch urgently TBH
game is unplayable becouse someone gone absolute vandeta
and forget your dailies
forget it. Its physically impossible to do them
becouse level 29 and level 31 will kill off all mining systems they are aware of, one by one
Now that damage is greatly reduced for let's say level 22-27 players
I dont think so
I think they at least literally saved server 149. Told you how situation looks here.
neon ledge
Iād be cool with this if it only applied to miners on mines.
neon ledge
Those dufus killed their game with this.
final terrace
Not really. Then lower level players can just hold the miners so the big guys cant mine
wind nebula
Honestly it feels abusive that as level 26 I can absolutely destroy bases lvl 19 and they give absolutely 0 challange
long obsidian
Well -2 is ridiculous
neon ledge
They need to fix the raid problem by fixing the economy enabling easier restoration of lost resources. Not by eliminating raiding from the game incrementally.
final terrace
Easier solution. Make it like other games. If you hit a base so much in a period of time it random ports
long obsidian
As level 24 i need 3 NS runs to break an fully upgraded level 20 base with ships
The resource generation/ mining of basics is broken
wind nebula
but as level 24 you can destroy base lvl 17
and if he is lucky to have res from even or something
long obsidian
-7 is a bit too much
wind nebula
well, its considerable amount of free ress
final terrace
But let's face it guys, whatever they implement itll be broke anyway lol
long obsidian
-2 with increased ship or decreased base power
But rss generation is really broken
neon ledge
All they needed to do to stop players leaving was implement resource recovery tokens.
long obsidian
Convert to tokens and back
neon ledge
These could be included with peace shield packs or instead of 10 carol shards.
final terrace
Nah. They need to fix what they broke and stop ripping paying players off with stuff like carol and the mayflower
neon ledge
If you get raided you have 2 days to use a recovery token and get it all back
wind nebula
to change res to tokens. but maybe my memory is playing on me
final terrace
Tokens wont work
wind nebula
I lost way too much res as lower elo player to big fishes
final terrace
I'll just drop from my group and let people hit me then vice versa
wind nebula
I can easly estimate months of losses
final terrace
Unlimited rss then
neon ledge
You would need a timer on them.
final terrace
Still. It wouldnt work
neon ledge
Or some other abuse prevention. But yeah could be a problem:
neon ledge
Itās basically the equivalent of opening a ticket with scopely and getting everything back because of this glitch or that glitch.
Admittedly, there are some problems with it.
wind nebula
Well I was empteid out too many times and one single time out of these I had timely notification
final terrace
On our server scopley hasnt given anything back in so long I cant remember. All we get is cookie cutter responses. And me personally I get threats that they will revoke my ticket privileges because I wont let them close them
wind nebula
to point where I was rofling to myself its "your base is empty" notification
neon ledge
Fundamentally the economy has needed fixed since the beginning.
long obsidian
So :
- almost no missions
- dull dailies
- no more base raiding
- no More freeing a mine
āā-
Unless you pay 2k to buy and level a ships way above your level
This will really help the game
neon ledge
Yeah this may be refund time.
wind nebula
I guess some players were exploiting their willingness to refund?
plain yarrow
By refunding rss lost u are acknowledging the broken u haven't fixed.
neon ledge
Raiding is the funnest part of the game.
forest raven
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> @@delicate sentinel , Is compensation actually scheduled for all the bugs, delays and server downs that Scopely caused? In other games, there are lavish rewards when bugs make it difficult to play or players are penalized.
wind nebula
IDK, I got once emptied after winning fat event and I was so much set up for at least 2 weeks of upgrades
neon ledge
Our alliance we started raiding at some low level. 15-16. Our alliance had a total of 5 million rss raided and we doubled that in a couple days. We built this awesome feeling of team work and friendship by scouting together, splatting until the station was cracked and then loading up our envoys with Chen and uhura.
wind nebula
and got emptied becouse notif was late... like half an hour
faint gate
@forest raven that will never happen.
neon ledge
The only downside was for our victims and the fact that recovery of rss for them was near impossible. Really like getting knocked out in Texas hold āem with a $100 re buyin.
And THATs what scopely needs to fix.
The ability of players to recover from raids and keep playing.
Incrementally killing the raiding just ends this game.
limber wasp
Hear that sound? Panicās inbox is blowing up
opaque snow
What is up with giving NO NOTICE of maintenance changes. I can't imagine how many of us are going to LOSE RSS because you moved the maintenance times without notice so our SHIELDS WILL RUN OUT! Seriously, did no one think about this?
wind nebula
That is very valid point... damint, my shield is running out about just now
I mean
on GC there is notification
tough sable
They gave notice... in game and in discord. Problem was... there wasnāt enough time before starting it for folks to notice and shield accordingly
wind nebula
but I noticed it now, when maintainance just ended
opaque snow
30 minutes notice isn't notice. Lol. It was supposed to start at 4:00. Instead it started at 8:30.
cyan marsh
@delicate sentinel would love to check out new content, but we have a few big spenders attacking everyone. Theyāve been clearing systems for weeks now, server 149 has become unplayable...
jade plover
New hit ranges suck! Nice job helping the elite and hurting the bottom. Absolutely brilliant!
š”š”š”š”
hollow tundra
really really really dissapointed by the pvp change
stiff sorrel
Yes they changed the wrong end of the scale. Should have reduced the top end, not the bottom end.
serene hornet
Top end spends too much to get nerfed
frigid jolt
@neon ledge they are fixing that with this new content.We will have more bases to raid soon
summer agate
Just means I got to be meaner then 100 million power destroyed. 200 million here I come. As if 48,000 pvpās wasnāt enough. Lvl 29 here reporting in good bye my 20 and 21 dead base feeds.
jade plover
This change was done to limit a players ability to farm inactives in hopes of increasing pack sales. Doesn't take a high IQ to figure this one out folks.
jade plover
There will be no pack purhases in my future, period
pastel hazel
Actual Non-whiney Feedback
The two missions (whatever the first one is called and the "Strange Partners") both have killing 30 swam units in the same system....as the entire server. Some players are getting "too many ships" errors.
I'm sure it'll filter down over time, but it might be a good hotfix to allow 2-3 more systems to complete these missions.
jade plover
Actually not whiney huh, sounds pretty whiney š¤£
sly forum
I can't even do the new missions because the systems are already to full and my ships refuse to warp in great planning scoply
pastel hazel
Nah see @jade plover , what TimeLordBarney just posted was "actually whiney" š
static violet
where is the rules of pvp levels ?
high igloo
I strongly disagree with this new PvP rule. It is absolute garbage and makes it shit to find raids.
sage shuttle
nuetral space starting to look very cluttered with so many systems
next new content should be in the faction space areas
maybe adding wormholes to take you to delta and gamma quadrants would be cool
then add the borg & dominion & cardassians to the mix
civic turret
how about finally fixing this beta version
copper girder
OMG kill 30 hostiles? The whole server in the same system? No one could foresee this I bet
sage shuttle
yeah that was a dumb move
civic turret
devs are idiots
sage shuttle
they should have spread it out based on player level
jade plover
The devs aren't dating the shots, corporate is š
high igloo
The old PvP system worked fine and I know can't raid anyone! This is garbage
sage shuttle
yes you can grow a pair and team up to break higher level bases
swift hamlet
When I tried to claim my event pack it glitched out and I'm pretty sure I got nothing.
sage shuttle
most low level bases arent even worth raiding
no echbear look in your mission log
those chests just accept the missions there is no loot
high igloo
@sage shuttle just because you disagree with me doesn't mean you should patronize.
sage shuttle
if you cannot raid bases of your own level you are doing it wrong
tender mirage
@delicate sentinel game is borked... nobody can change system. I cant even recall my miner to my base. 'too many ships in system'
high igloo
@sage shuttle congrats I don't think anyone actually cares
sage shuttle
i dont think scopley care about you either
high igloo
the old system worked and changing it makes this so much worse
sly forum
@pastel hazel hell ya it was winney
sage shuttle
it is a fairer move imo it will allow lower level players a chance to level up now that do not get farmed by players 10 levels above them
sage shuttle
yes they need to 1. make it so an envoy is needed to mine a g3 node
high igloo
And reset the PvP shit
sage shuttle
- the roids have 100000k rss in them so they dont endup on 0 often so players will need to watch that they do not go over cap
high igloo
Yeah you're not understanding
sage shuttle
it will stop the idiot hogging roids cos they are afk mining
plus it will offer more opportunity to kill overcaps
yike lvl 35 swarms are almost 4mil in power
cinder garden
This isn't playable.
sage shuttle
yup lag is too much
best off go mining until the novelty wears off
come back when its less congested
gonna go to the pub for an hour or two then hopefully things will have died down a bit so i can play
sage shuttle
i have 3
long obsidian
Are you insane?
Level 26 is 360k
So that will NEVER happen
And killing 50 level 15 a day?
What would make this the game more fun?
Endless killing hostile is mindless work
I am not a bot
Why not 10 level 20
sage shuttle
kill 50 lvl 15 - 20 lvl 28 (can kill like 3 per go) and 10 lvl 30 cannot killed them even with my mayflower
long obsidian
50 kills for 30 bio minerals. So 200 kills for 1 refinement
high igloo
Welcome to FarmVille, starfleet version. Fuck this PvP rule
static violet
Where is new pvp rules ?
copper girder
Good news is I can finally finish my dailies chests again after 1 month
<@&509691205798592532> pass my thanks to the developers for being able to again finish my daily chests
high igloo
As a level 21 I used to be able to hit 16s, and most 21s don't have a ship over 150k. How do you expect to hit a base of 400k+ with barely a 100k ship? Wtf scopley this is bull shit
bold sentinel
Anyone else had good UC refines?
Just got 17UC ore from 12k
And 6 crystal
Not sure if it's a coincidence..
prisma island
Somebody didn't think this through.
"Hey let's make the whole server go into 1 system and kill 30 hostiles each!
static violet
Where is new pvp levels rules ?
nova sierra
If I had released work of this quality I would have been fired within 24 hrs.
static violet
How to stop the warp when it starts by itself or by mistake?
gentle goblet
@high igloo what 400K+ base exactly? Even fully built 22-23 is less than 300K
idle patrol
Huston, we have a problem. I cannot move my ships from base. The msg: too many ships on the system, pls try again later.
copper girder
Seriously one quest in that bloody system was not enough they HAD to put a second one there
nova sierra
I an genuinly shocked how active my ādeadā server is š¤£
high igloo
So I completed all the missions and still no Franklin
And now I'm supposed to have my RD department be 26 for the next???
And on top of that, evidently level 15s are capable of getting the franklin
nova sierra
Please follow the #509679626763632642 when voicing your opinion folks. Makes it easier for all of us.
We're just volunteers trying to keep Discord in check.
If that goes to downhill, they might just toss Discord and we'll have even less than what we do now so let's all try our best to keep it decent.
One thing scopely manages to do that is a true art... manage to set the bar lower and lower again and again you could have rehashed one of your better events and just thought this swarm one through more then rush it through and cause this carnage and general feeling that your consistently make this games experience worse!
The swarm isnt really an event, its a new daily that benefits those who only have 1 faction allowing them to acquire the loyalty tokens.
Yes there is a mad rush on the mission now, but it will fizzle out
š it's not about a mad rush, we can accept excitement and some activity it's the lack of thought that goes into it, it would be reassuring that the people behind the wheel, know the restrictions of how many players can enter a system, the lag and issues it will cause. Rush is fine bad forward thinking is becoming a repeated trend
Easily could have kill 30 swarm hostiles anywhere you want
Well, if im honest, i thought my server was dead.... oh boy was i wrong.
We wanna say yay great work
But ya don't make it at all easy scopely
Anyway it's time to learn lessons, can we chip in and get a big whiteboard for the team, and start putting some big learns Rule 1. Don't bottle neck whole servers into one system with new content or new event missions, big red writing so we can avoid this again for the future š hopefully someone remembers to point to it before they hit release button
high igloo
Bring back the old PvP rules. Yes, it was difficult but that's what shields are for. Now it's nearly impossible to raid
glass horizon
People, please think about it, your not suppose to be hitting the swarms with normal ships, that is why the USS Franklin is in the game, give it a chance you are not going to complete this in one day !
high igloo
@glass horizon except literally no one has gotten the Franklin
I completed a chain of missions and there's no more left and there's no Franklin bp
oh, the next mission is in another system but it requires RD level 26
and evidently level 17s can get the Franklin
So yeah, wtf are we supposed to do
nova sierra
@glass horizon it's not patience that's the issue it's the inability to enter a system or operate in it because they can't think a chain of missions through to conclusion and avoid a server meltdown
fossil tundra
Terrible release...why make the entire server kill 30 swarms each in ONE SYSTEM?!?! And not at very least increase respawn timeframe
high igloo
Well done scopely, you've really screwed up
static violet
Where is pvp level rules ?
weak locust
Who ever made the mission to be just in that one system is not the Brightest dev...
Any chance we can mission history? In order for us to review and help our team when they are looking for mission help @delicate sentinel ?
Also any chance of a public api so we can start building a memory alpha of the game? There are so many systems being able to keep track of that in an up to date system would help a lot
civic turret
bunch of idiots runing this program
the 30 swarm system is so screwed up it isn't funny
remember to buy your 100 dollar packs though
when are you going to figure out that this game is dying a slow death and pouring your money into it is insane
they don't fix anything. they release new stuff that doesn't work. there are no new players.
they tell you in support that they are working on it and it never gets fixed.
they are in clear violation of google and apple tos.
their glitches impact game play, plain and simple and that is a violation of tos.
their glitches cost you resources and real money
cursive geyser
Anyone know the new lvl caps for pvp? Can't find this info in any of the official statements?...
placid zealot
The new pvp. .. took away over half of my targets and it fails in my mind to address professional lvl 14 players.
cursive geyser
Im lvl 24 and it looks like i can still get nailed by level 32+...
high igloo
This new set of PvP rules is ridiculous and should be reset to the old system.
craggy egret
It's just implemented backwards is all. The higher levels should have had the 33% reduction and the lower levels only 1 level.
ripe oak
Fix the game , or sink with the ship.
high igloo
Wtf is the point of getting a Franklin if you can only get it at ops 26? All your ships are so much better
ionic zodiac
The new PVP does nothing to help current mid range players. Itās actually stunting them while it leaves the āwhalesā with no true negative changes.
craggy egret
@ionic zodiac That's exactly what i've been saying. it was implemented backwards.
ionic zodiac
As for the Franklin, the billboard actually shows that a Lvl 17 can have a tier 1. I donāt know where people are getting the 26ops requirement. Where is this rumor coming from?
Maybe I am reading it wrong, but itās the same lvl ship as the Botany Bay
high igloo
The first mission to get the bp requirs R&D level 26
ionic zodiac
I havenāt made it to the first mission. Seems very incompetent of them to have a ship thatās weaker than an OPS 20 Kehra to be relegated to only over OPS 26 where the first Faction ships are.
high igloo
Maybe it's so they can get money
craggy egret
It's their usual catering to the whales and high levels so they can have all the cool shiny content before everyone else.
ionic zodiac
Would you happen to have SS to show this OPS 26 req or can point me in the direction of them? Or is this hearsay
ionic zodiac
Yes
ionic zodiac
Ok thanks.
high igloo
This PvP limit isn't fair anymore. I now have more limitations than those who are stronger than I. Players can 1 hit crack a base my level now but now I need to take 3-4 hits. This isn't fair fix mins or max.
craggy egret
33% nerf at lower levels, only 9% nerf at higher levels. To the whales go the spoils. Nothing has changed.
high igloo
The previous system worked
summer cave
and made it even tougher to deal with the lvl 9 and 14 3* squatters
high igloo
Yeah those little shits need to get off nodes
summer cave
well now there is even less of a lvl range that can kick them off
before a 17 could, now i think max is a 16
high igloo
A min a 21 can hit is a 19? How tf is that fair when a 27 can 1 hit crack my base?
A 27 can have access to a 400k+ faction ship whereas a level 21 will be lucky with a ship over 175k
how is this fair? Bring back the old system
summer cave
#BuyMoarRss. also #BuyMoarRssFor30+ToTake
high igloo
I'm now very tempted to quit because of this Bullshit
And you still haven't fixed the shield problem
summer cave
im ops 25...i can only hit down to 21, but from what i read a 39 can still hit me
smoky niche
I didn't get the chest to start the franklin missions, any way to get it?
craggy egret
@smoky niche lots of servers can't get the Franklin missions yet. we're waiting.
smoky niche
Most people in my alliance got it today, just a couple of us did not
craggy egret
@high igloo The old system wasn't really any better, super high levels could still attack 10+ levels below them for which there was literally no defense.
The system needed to be adjusted at the top not the bottom, but Scopely tends to do everything bassackwards so no big surprise there.
nova sierra
Yeah, the pvp level disparity really needs to be addressed, not made worse
craggy egret
we've all been saying that for months. They went ahead and did the exact opposite anyway.
hollow tundra
i just logged in for the first time since the update and im so disappointed in the new pvp levels I dont even want to play. I go to my main systems and I cant attack a single ship because im level 17 and everyone there is over 20. this broke the main fun factor in the game for me
uneven crown
The new pvp levels prevent me from clearing nearly every zero node so I can mine.
high igloo
This PvP rule doesn't make it harder to be raided, it makes it harder to raid. This makes it so high level players can take low players but low players can't take lower
uneven crown
Iām really starting to hate this game.
high igloo
@uneven crown same
You make it difficult to be a player on here and it isn't fair to players 19-24, where most players are
Bring back the old PvP rules for players under 26, but make it so 35+ can't hit so low
uneven crown
Right!
high igloo
this is complete bull shit and nothing is going to happen for months
nimble granite
Sadly you are right
uneven crown
I think they are trying to force out free-to-play people so they can merge all the big spenders to one server to maximize profits. Just a theory, cuz everything is designed around making it nearly impossible to advance without cash.
nimble granite
Something I would love and would be fast is them releasing how all the calculations take place...
How are they making it impossible without paying?
Iām only level 14 so not that far in.
high igloo
I'm very tempted to quit because now it is very difficult for me to get the materials to level up. You need 100M steel, 70M trit, and 10M dil to get through 26 and now you can't get any from raiding at those levels because you can't hit the bases who actually have those RSS that you used to be able to hit
uneven crown
Well... take the refinery. Iām getting 5 uncommon refined ore per week. My kumari and two researches that require ore will take my refinery 40 weeks to produce enough.
high igloo
level 28+ won't have a problem because they can take players close with faction ships
Yeah the refinery is shit too
nimble granite
Oh ok do you also lose a lot from raids? Do you have your alliance on one planet to watch each other.
Does the refinery chance increase as you level up?
uneven crown
At 14 you donāt have to worry much... but at higher levels it gets to a crawl.
high igloo
but you need to do more events for those
uneven crown
You donāt lose materials (crystal, ore and gas) from base raids.
nimble granite
But P T and D are lost
high igloo
But you need lots of rss and now you can't get enough
nimble granite
Resources not materials
uneven crown
The refinery does not increase as quickly as your costs do.
nimble granite
Ok do you guys Pvp a lot?
high igloo
You have to to get enough to level up
nova sierra
Refinery is a lottery. Day 3 (level 28) ... 2 batches twice a day, got 8 uncommons gas. 0 uncommon anything else š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
nimble granite
Fun thatās 3*?
nova sierra
Yup
high igloo
undo this PvP rule it's trash
uneven crown
Rss arenāt a big issue... miners and base raids... until they took away all the bases I could crack and left me with bases too powerful to deal with.
nimble granite
Do you guys PVP for RSS and level everything and then OP last?
nova sierra
Im guessing it increases by 0.01% a level š¤£š¤£
nova sierra
Rss isnt an issue, mine raid... most of mine came from missions. Gotta have patience
high igloo
RSS is a very big issue from 22-26
nimble granite
Do you ever run out of missions?
high igloo
you need 100M steel to get to 26
uneven crown
I always complete all research and construction before upgrading Ops. I only upgrade my ships enough to make them useful.
high igloo
and millions to teir up ships
nimble granite
Useful
They are always useful the higher?
Because then you can take on more powerful bases.
?
high igloo
With this PvP it is nearly impossible to take on bases
gentle goblet
@nimble granite when you have a T6 Kumari and each upgrade gives 1% extra it's time to stop š
uneven crown
They are always crap when you first build them. Weak. I upgrade the first set of components and tier up once or twice.
nimble granite
1%x100,00? 1%x500,000? Is that each part is that per tier. And per tier you also get levels.
Per tier you probably get 25%+
But ya I could see what you mean.
I sent an email with
I wanted to know if players could get the information on how the calculations are done in game. The reason I ask is so us players can help to find errors.
Example McCoy has an ability to increase Captain maneuvers by 8%, letās say the captain maneuver is 30% increase to damage. Does the captain maneuver increase to 38% or 32.4% (8% of 30). Also the order of the operations.
Is short giving players how the calculations are complete would help us find what is a real bug and what isnāt reducing false bug reports and ensuring everything is in working order.
Discord search sucks does anyone know if the calculations info is available? Did anyone mine it?
uneven crown
@nimble granite I think itās the 8% of 30 option.
forest raven
<@&509691611903426561> ,seriuos!!! First parts of USS Franklin starting with missions from level 26 above? Who's idea was it? I did 3hour to make this new missions as lvl 24 and got a lot of worthless 2* rewards and some shards for Jaylah. That's it, waste of time! And why should I have the USS Franklin first at lvl26, when I can have more powerful ships then?
frigid jolt
@forest raven you can get the ship from 2 events
That lvl 26 is for the mission.You dont need to complete that
forest raven
@frigid jolt I guess I have to pay for it. That might be the real reason. So we're is the second mission starting for lower players?
frigid jolt
@forest raven you dont have to pay
2 events will give you 90bps.
First one is hostile hunting and sec one is mining
Each of them last for a week
frigid jolt
Already started in Apac servers
Probably in a few hours you will also have it in US/EU @forest raven
wispy sparrow
hi, I'm 26 lvl, and for Russia when will the Franklin missions begin?
frigid jolt
@wispy sparrow which server are you on?
wispy sparrow
I do not know
frigid jolt
@wispy sparrow check #557163704383438850 about how to learn your server number
frigid jolt
You are in server number 3,so it will take a couple of hours to have the events @wispy sparrow
errant turret
I started playing on my IPAD and would like to use my IPHONE too, but when I down load the app it starts a new game on the IPHONE. Anyone know how to sink them?
jade plover
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