#šŸ’¬-general-feedback

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sage jacinth
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Btw, @Panic, I shared my feedback here on Facebook too, so that you know I am speaking as a recognized Top Fan

vale arch
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but but.... your supposed to throw money away to unlock the privilege to throw more money away!

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what a joke.

hasty plover
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@delicate sentinel You guys are joking about the announced vault changes right? You're seriously going to charge 20mn rss for a higher level upgrade to protect 27k dilithium? Don't even bother with vault and RSS protection announcements. These are a joke. You guys still keep missing the main problem driving every bit of this. The broke-a$$ economy. Thanks.

forest cloak
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@delicate sentinel Here’s some positive feedback about the vault change. It was desperately needed for most players and is a huge step in the right direction. Mining changes are nice. šŸ‘

nova sierra
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THE PVP IS DEAD ... THANKS FOR THE NEW UPDATES= X4 RES BASE PROTECTION = NO MORE PVP

cosmic knoll
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bye. the increase in vaults helps the cracked bases to repair dead ships. people still need way more than protected to upgrade stuff, youre just a gyp*** that likes to zero people if you cant realise that.

copper girder
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šŸ‘‹

nova sierra
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ps the idiots taking don't realize that the research will double or more the base protection

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talking

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but they are noobs

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stay here to play with noobs free no money player

cosmic knoll
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NAPs kill pvp, the big guys hit the little guys ... some gyp*** zero the little guys and they quit. soon all the little guys quit because of this ... then the big guys complain that theres no bases left to raid, economy broke, etc. ... all started because of their NAPs.

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if the little guys were still playing, plenty of bases to raid still ... look at your NAP partners ... i bet thay have got millions of rss you 'could' use ... if only you didnt have a NAP with them

copper girder
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@nova sierra if this is the kind of player you are I am happy for your server if you quit

forest cloak
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@nova sierra if you are crying salty tears over 50k less trit and 10k less dilithium from a raid, I’m afraid you were raiding the wrong people.

nova sierra
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ok by math it will be an increase of 1600% of res protection šŸ–•šŸ»

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good work very good work ... stay here to play hellokitty Star Trek šŸ‘‹šŸ»

unreal aspen
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Dunno. I try to max out the research on protection... And I don't nearly cover half the storage capacity of the warehouse and the generators.

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And the requirements for the next level vault, without spending latinum is still well above the current protection capacities, even with the building efficiency research maxed out.

nova sierra
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i will explain for people not able to do math

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atm level 8 parasteel protection 80%

unreal aspen
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You are actually not even explaining within a reasonable way and acting like an arrogant person.

nova sierra
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reserch that double potection 1600%

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it's what i was going to do and you interrupted me

unreal aspen
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You won't exactly 'win' your argument when you don't lay out the math and pull numbers out of your whoha like you are the designer of the game. Which you aren't.

nova sierra
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i will write I 1 message so people with your iq could not interrupt and trash talk over it

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@unreal aspen @nova sierra drop it, consider this your first and only warning

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the maximum res protection gave by reserch is 1600% example with parasteel= protection lvl 8 80% double protection res 1600% it's what we have now ... but what happen if you double the base to what 1600% is apply? you will have a 1600% more !!!! so we will have a 1600% res protection more ... now people telling me it's ok for low level player have to go to make a check if i am wrong or not in math

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  1. Be respectful towards other Commanders at all times. It's quite simple and it works wonders!
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@nova sierra i am respectfull but if people start to argue without using math or brain is very very hard to calm down

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take a walk around, look at funny cat pictures, just don't get yourself kicked/banned over it

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especially if are the same people that pushed to unbalance a game well balanced that i loved

vale arch
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Yelling and or insulting the community that plays the game accomplishes nothing.

nova sierra
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the solution now is that a lot of crying people unbalanced the game

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oh well if i count me and other people pay in this game then see all this money trashed for free crying not able to play player

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you will understand it make me very upset

vale arch
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why are you still bitching at as over this? WE CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT

nova sierra
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this is a feedback section

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@vale arch moderate him

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@nova sierra

mossy nymph
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I am soo lucky, I just got my notification that my station has been attacked 10 1/2 hours after it happened! (good thing i was on when it happened)

vale arch
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says the guy causing the drama? what im i making too much sense for you?

nova sierra
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@vale arch moderate him he was not giving any feedback

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@vale arch use math and give your feedback

forest cloak
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@nova sierra I am a little confused by 1600% protection. Can you please break it down? The most I can come up with prior to lvl 32 is a 170% boost to the vault numbers.

nova sierra
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the maximum res protection gave by reserch is 1600% example with parasteel= protection lvl 8 80% double protection res 1600% it's what we have now ... but what happen if you double the base to what 1600% is apply? you will have a 1600% more !!!! so we will have a 1600% res protection more ... now people telling me it's ok for low level player have to go to make a check if i am wrong or not in math

unreal aspen
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Parsteel Safeguarding - Level 8 - +70% to current protection. Prime Protection - +100% protection. The math is, overall 270% of what your vault will technically cover.

forest cloak
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So we are on the same page, are you saying that in the current state of the game, a lvl 24 player with max research and vaults has protection of 6.4M? (That’s 1600% of 400k)

nova sierra
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so 70 not 80

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70 Ɨ2

unreal aspen
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That is not how this math works...

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Vault = 100%. The Safeguard adds to the percentage. The Prime Protection adds to the percentage, not multiplies.

nova sierra
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yes 70 140%

unreal aspen
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At max, it is 270% for Parsteel.

nova sierra
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i only put one 0 over

unreal aspen
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It does not radically jump to 1600%.

nova sierra
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140% more

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and it's not a little

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take M and make 140%

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no more positive balance in base raiding

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and this the correct way to argue not telling me they have done good

vale arch
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the 'correct' way to have a discussion is to not over exaggerate your 'calculations' then yell at the rest of us.

unreal aspen
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I am at Level 23... Parsteel Protection vault at L23 (Which I am not at) is 217k. 270% of 217k is 585.9k. Parsteel Warehouse at L23 is 710k, with Max Parsteel storage boost, that is 1065k... Not counting the fact that 4 Parsteel gens have 64.5k storage each, that is literally 737.1k Parsteel if the warehouse was full and the generators stopped producing parsteel.

nova sierra
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@unreal aspen lvl 8 give 70

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double reserch give 140

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so x2.4 more

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what i mean is that modify the base

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you will modify what the research are apply to

unreal aspen
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I do not see a double research.

nova sierra
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there is the double protection reserch @unreal aspen

vale arch
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prime protection?

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thats only 100%

unreal aspen
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Prime Protection is an additive of 100%... NOT a multiplier

nova sierra
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wait it's only what you have from reserch this omg i forgot constructions

unreal aspen
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That is where your math is WAY off.

nova sierra
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no it's a multiplier

unreal aspen
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It is not.

nova sierra
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it is

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test it

unreal aspen
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Literal text of Prime Protection:

vale arch
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omg this guys is Dense af

unreal aspen
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+100% to station resource protection.

nova sierra
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in math +100% = x2

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if you have 100% and add 100%

unreal aspen
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That is not a multiplier. that is an additive percent. Which means... +100% to the base, just like Parsteel Safeguarding is an additive precentage.

nova sierra
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you have output 200%

unreal aspen
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100% is base. Prime protection - +100%. Safeguard is +70%...

vale arch
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(+100%)+(+70%)=+170%

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crazy

unreal aspen
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The mat is literally, 270% total.

nova sierra
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...

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so almost x3

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you see my point now ?

vale arch
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no i dont

unreal aspen
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Dude... You went on about .7 x 2 which was not correct to begin with.

vale arch
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and btw 270% = 3.7 times the output

unreal aspen
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You also went on about it being 1600%... Which was WAY off.

nova sierra
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x16 is 1600

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but we only count the research

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so 270% it's not little

unreal aspen
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I just gave you, and laid out, at the current levels I am at... If I left my base with full warehouse (At capacity) and 4 max generators full... 737k material can be stolen... And that is with 270% protection.

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And that presumes I have the max vault, which I don't.

nova sierra
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you will see no more pvp

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a mining game

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wich make sense

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with increasing value of mining ships and equip

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trash pvp go ahead mining game

unreal aspen
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No, you will still see PVP because you are missing the point that the COST of some material, far exceeds the capacity of your warehouse that you STILL have to gather material that puts you well above capacity to protect. And even with the mining increases, you only have 1 officer who can boost mining for a particular material that you can assign.

nova sierra
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and you will gain mining

unreal aspen
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Did you look at the numbers for mining increases?

nova sierra
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double

unreal aspen
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No.

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Officers gained double.

nova sierra
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ps north start pay .. not increased

unreal aspen
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The ships themselves, only gained a little. It is the OFFICER that makes the deal, but even then, you can only do 1 officer per material.

vale arch
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I think hes arguing for the sake of arguing.

unreal aspen
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ECS Fortunate 15% - 100% (before 15% - 40%)
Envoy 15% - 150% (before 15% - 115%)
ECS Horizon 15% - 200% (before 15% - 60%)

nova sierra
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really they could give me my money back before i will pay 1 euro again here

unreal aspen
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While the fortunate doubled, and the Horizon almost 4x, the thing is, most people are going to be at the Envoy level, which is a minor max increase at best.

mortal ether
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Unable to.buy spcial March daily packs hit store nothing happens suggestions?

unreal aspen
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And if people are mining with the Fortunate... PVP is going to be there, because the cargo protect level is still relatively low in comparison to the envoy and they will be hit because if people are using them for the 'double' rate... they will be easy to pop too.

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You have to buy the April Store pack in order to get the daily tokens.

mortal ether
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I've tried

nova sierra
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... the pvp is not killing full cargo miners

unreal aspen
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Report it in Bug Report fipp.

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It is if you have to protect your miners to get the most gain out of it.

nova sierra
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the pvp is when people move to attack and defend with fleets

mortal ether
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Why not link from daily......? Store is behaggled no sense... suggest make it simpler so players know what they need easier to use

nova sierra
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the bases

mortal ether
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Feedback submitted

nova sierra
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so before quit the game i will start to suggest the cuck norris shield

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every day

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crying like a baby

vale arch
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okay, cool, bye.

unreal aspen
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Telling you, you are making a mountain over a molehill about this. It won't kill PVP, not when there are still high level disparities between players and levels which players can hit.

tame sphinx
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Why can't there be a "stop warp" button already?

vale arch
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or a friends list? or a: bookmark this location? or why doesn't the research project show how much power they will give so i don't have to guess when doing dailies or events?

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xD

unreal aspen
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It's like gambling... Everything is.

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Even refining materials.

keen bobcat
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@nova sierra I'm sorry when you say well balanced I don't know if your taking the piss or not. A well balanced game is where people of around the same strength are attacking each other not having a level 30 hitting a level 22 there is no balance there that is big hitting little knowing little can't respond.

nova sierra
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@keen bobcat see my proposal in idea suggestion it will balance better pvp

keen bobcat
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@nova sierra you mean a sheild ship? That doesn't bring balance at all. What brings balance would be a +2/-2 System so you can only attack 2 levels higher or 2 levels lower

nova sierra
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not a shield ship

fathom copper
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I love the idea with the chuck Norris shield

nova sierra
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a black fortunate with cuck norris shield

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it makes difference

keen bobcat
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I honestly do not get what the fascination of chuck norris is but maybe that's cause I'm not American. But I still think a +2/-2 is a better system

nova sierra
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(inside laughing)

keen bobcat
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But do explain how you think it makes a difference?

pseudo dagger
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@panic since your increasing the storage can you increase more storage in the generators as well.

ebon thistle
orchid silo
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It's not hard to make them bugged. Some people do it on purpose.

tiny fulcrum
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So the April rewards, the only option I have is $110 pack, why don't I have another option? Not really prepared to pay half the minimum wage in South Africa for very little RSS

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may as well hire someone to sit there and mine for me.

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At least then they would appreciate the financial support unlike scopely that like to push away people that would like to support.

cold comet
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It would be nice if player that cant afford packs to be able to earn Elite tokens in game.

supple oyster
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Nice to have boosts to mining but where are the extra mines to go with it. Hope there is word of more crystal, gas and ore mines soon. It is terrible during mining events. Boosts only good if you can find a mine to use them on.

orchid silo
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Very true, finding a 3* gas mine that's free on my server is near impossible on a normal day for most of the morning/afternoon at least. All but impossible when an events on.

unborn rain
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how do i get in touch with someone that can restore my resources that were raided theough my shields no battle reports or info of any kind?

mighty bramble
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@unborn rain Click your player icon in the top-left, click Settings, click Help/FAQ. Click a topic. Click NO this did not answer my question. File CS request with screenshots.

unborn rain
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yes ive done that many times ive always jad my resources returned but this time i was told sorry we cant with no explanation of any kind

mighty bramble
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just file another one, get a diff CS rep assigned.

unborn rain
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ok cool thats what i did thanks for the input

mighty bramble
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np. it's annoying when they just click thru script "No"s. I'd just shop around agents until I get one that helps. lol

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if you still get no movement, tag a mod and ask them to push it thru for you

nova sierra
twilit slate
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I wish mine were that small a donation @nova sierra, i have 1.5B, 1B, 45M, and 3M ones that will never be completed. Problem is one of the billion ones has to be completed to get access to another mission.

nova sierra
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Its a prope joke

tiny fulcrum
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Pve is a joke, I would like to do missions for reward, not fly around the Galaxy handing out RSS.

twilit slate
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Give us raidable PvE bases and that would change a few things

charred ravine
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Feedback on the new announcement @panic

  1. Vault and mining increases, great idea for P, T and DIL
  2. Keenser - sounds great but ehh never seen him, i have 9/34 so i guess some event ages ago.
  3. Base shield also a great idea
  4. Gas/Xtal/Ore 3* (and earlier 2*) - reducing the time to mine is good, stock pile of minerals will go up (or time tending to the miners to get needed amounts will go down), but the real bottle necks are the low effectiveness of refining (way too random) and the refining cool-down. It cannot be that one refines 75k 3* minerals and gets 0 uncommon. There has to be a floor, for example like a minimum of 1 uncommon per batch. In case of 3 batches (75k) it would be 3 uncommon. Currently lvl 29, 260 uncommon gas needed for R&D and refining is like pulling nails. Can’t build much because R&D is prerequisite for everything. Even base defenses need gas.
idle fable
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Are there any plans to bring more tritanium into game? Our server is totally empty of it and ppl are dropping since they have ships that no one can repair. No base has any trit left. It's making game not fun to play at all.

lilac saffron
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Talk about lazy. Has your server considered mining or hunting hostiles for trit?

open mountain
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@delicate sentinel thought that chest rewards would now be more on par with level of ship being attacked and the power of the ship attacking. How is getting Tier2 parts when attacking level 26+ with a Kumari on par?

idle fable
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@lilac saffron Should I mine half of the day for 200k trit for one ship repair? If that is game concept then I'm dropping out now

vale arch
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i think the main problem is that there are not enough nodes to mine at, and its way too slow. This in turn slows down the economy hard.

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in regards to gathering of rss anyway

idle fable
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Mining is slow.. Give rss to ppl so we can steal it

keen bobcat
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@idle fable they are not going to give res to people. People will have to buy or it mine it or farming from hostiles. If no1 in your server is doing those 3 ways then there won't be any res in anyone's bases

stable kraken
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What's the yellow area on the map?

maiden tree
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@idle fablebrother i dont know what server your on but trit and par are the easiest things to get on mine

idle fable
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We're low on our. Para every1 has milions and milions but trit is missing

lilac saffron
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Lmao

versed hearth
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this game is a scam i paid 20 dollars and did all the missions and still need 25 jellyfish pieces

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i’m just going to rampage on miners from now on cause screw this game y’all robbed me

analog ravine
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@nova sierra I would like to ask that the the Saladin’s phaser that states it is an energy weapon but actually acts as a kinetic weapon, be corrected. This also make Sulu worthless.

nova sierra
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It will stay kinetic but they are correcting the copy

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Since it’s effective with Klingons which is good

merry current
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@versed hearth the jelly fish is also tied to an event

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So when it comes out agian you will be able to get the last 25 parts you need

analog ravine
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Why? Sulu is basically useless then. Wouldn’t it be better to have the phasers be energy and get the bonus from Sulu instead of using a Klingon crew?

nova sierra
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So think of it in terms of Of how you would want your officers to progress as you get more faction ships. Sulu is perfect on the intrepid

analog ravine
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I would rather have the 40% from Sulu and not have to put Klingons on my Federation ship

versed hearth
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i don’t care about some event, this is a scam it never said i had to wait for an event when it was getting my 20 dollars

nova sierra
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My Saladin would be significantly worse Without Klingons on it

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I’m not sure how I would even put a crew on it

versed hearth
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i’m gonna wreck miners especially empty ones cause i’m robbed

nova sierra
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I have used Sulu on the intrepid a number of times

analog ravine
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Then the design is severely flawed

nova sierra
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I think you make a decent point in that at least one of its weapons should be energy

merry current
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@versed hearth yeah well it is a free to play game they have to make money some how

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I had to do the same thing @versed hearth

versed hearth
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they can sell a jellyfish for 20 dollars but instead they took my money and it’s impossible to get one

analog ravine
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@nova sierra doesn’t the torpedo only fire only every 3 turns?

nova sierra
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From what I can tell the Enterprise’s two kinetic and one energy

versed hearth
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if i wait for an event and level up i won’t even need a jellyfish

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this is thieves

nova sierra
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Yeah, but like any other interceptor the first hit is huge

versed hearth
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i play other free to play games and they don’t put out things to buy that are outright scams

merry current
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@versed hearth dude your acting abit like my 5 year when she dose not get what she wants, take a breath man

versed hearth
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IM AN ADULT I PAID 20 DOLLARS AND GOT SCAMMED

merry current
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You think that way meny others dont @versed hearth

versed hearth
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i don’t care i’m just blowing up everyone’s miners now screw this game it’s run by dishonest scammers

merry current
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Also it is 20 bucks you think your gonna get a whole ship for 20 @versed hearth

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@versed hearth then quit dont be an ass

versed hearth
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it’s fun, and i paid for it

merry current
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Dont be that guy

versed hearth
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i already got groups trying to get me back AND ITS MUCH EASIER FOR THEM WITHOUT MY JELLYFISH

merry current
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You acting like this makes you a bigger target @versed hearth

versed hearth
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i smack everyone left and right i even made a whole alliance change tags to hide from me

merry current
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but either way you paired 20 bucks and did not get what you think you Deserve that is not how life works @versed hearth

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So grow up and play or quit but laters @versed hearth

versed hearth
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yeah it is when you get scammed in life what do you do YOU RAISE HELL

analog ravine
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@nova sierra but the problem is still that if you go Federation that it will costs major $$$$ to level up the Klingons. So sorry, I take the stand that they need to fix the Saladin and do energy on the phasers as it states.

nova sierra
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I think sulu should just increase both weapon types

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Since the enterprise has kinetic and energy

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And he can do both

analog ravine
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I would be good with that

nova sierra
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I’ll provide that feedback

analog ravine
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Thank you. The value of Sulu then becomes relevant and worthwhile

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If not he’s a waste

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It also, increases the value of the whole enterprise crew if that’s done

torn karma
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@potent cipher @delicate sentinel i have to compliment the last patch has greatly increased stability and the graphics are much better thank you guys

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I do miss the alliance help counter on the base and research upgrades though its nice to know if you got all possible helps before using speed ups..

nova sierra
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Sorry if this has been asked before, but is there a way to get the cheaper packs added back to offers? I was told that because I purchased a $50 pack the $20 and $25 packs are taken away. I only have $50 and $100 packs left. It’s almost like penalizing the people that spend money to get the resources. It was recommended that I tag @delicate sentinel on this topic.

storm hornet
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@nova sierra one on my alliance submitted a support ticket to request the smaller packs back. No response yet. It's worth a shot though.

nova sierra
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@storm hornet I did too, and heard nothing either. Trying here since the developers say they listen

storm hornet
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try pinging the mods to make sure they see your question

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they may miss it otherwise

versed hearth
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I bought the jellyfish pack and now only get 50 and 100 dollar packs

storm hornet
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Yeah, the "bleed you for as much money as possible" algorithm is pretty aggressive.

calm root
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šŸ‘€

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I have given this feedback to the devs, no word yet. I'll bug them on monday

nova sierra
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@calm root thanks. Aggressive algorithm is a pretty good summary. Punishment for being loyal is another. I’m ok paying, but like @versed hearth said. I bought a Jellyfish , and now all I see is 50 & 100. I want to@buy an elite daily but am afraid that the 50s will go away.

storm hornet
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@calm root I don't think they need to remove the higher dollar packs. But there is no reason to remove the lower dollar ones either. People who can and will spend higher amounts will do so even if the lower dollar packs are still available. Removing those low dollar packs is just a kick in the gut to the people that can't afford to spend that much.

calm root
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Yeah I hear ya.

versed hearth
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they’re saying if ur a dolphin become a whale, or gtfo were game of the year bitches

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you don’t even get a jellyfish if y9u buy that pack and do all the missions

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i searched every dam system and there’s no more missions

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how i see others with 2 jellyfish while i paid 20 dollars and can’t get 1

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it’s p2w fine i paid and didn’t win jack

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maybe they try to piss ppl off on purpose to create players who only go around to smash miners, because 20 dollar players are worthless anyway

normal falcon
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Put back the help numbers under research and building. Or at least give us a way to see how many helps we have received. I try not to use my speedups till I get all the helps and right now I have no way of knowing when that is without doing the math.

limber dome
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@versed hearth that’s normal here. You can only buy the small shield of peace packet how often you want, all other cheaper packets are only single time. Only the 50 or 100 packets are unlimited.

nova sierra
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Saturday night in a system that before the announce of 16 April update was full of people

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and look how it is!! good work moderators in passing deviated suggestions to developers!!!

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now play only you and the few that cry more laud

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good luck in a brand new game: mining trek !!!

covert moat
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@torn karma ping the moderators, a lot of people used that feature

shrewd roost
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Ugh i hate the fact that my server is run by pirate alliances

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It drains so much fun out of the game. No diplomacy, no chance at working together, no nothing. Just complete war

white stream
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@shrewd roost form some MDPs with other alliances within.. shield up each night.... do they follow basic roe?

shrewd roost
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Yeah I'm admiral of a subordinate alliance to a top 25ish alliance who has four mdps with other strong alliances

white stream
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nice... group together in a cluster or system

shrewd roost
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But there's only so much you can do when the top 3 or 4 alliances decide to make agreements with only them to terrorize everyone

white stream
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agreed, except ban together and snatch the fun out of it for them

shrewd roost
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We did, but the pirates kept jumping on us

white stream
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if they are high lvl, dont send smaller lvls,

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if you cant get a gamer to shield... kick the account and drain the base faster then invite back in

shrewd roost
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They're all way too strong for our guys. Like level 29s and our strongests are 24ish

white stream
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yep... we have an issue like that to

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this is not a war game, but a game of strategy

shrewd roost
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Some guy from another server said that the top 15 alliances in his server have made a common sense agreement that promotes fairness and i just wish i ended up in that server instead of iron armada purgatory

white stream
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the road ahead is indeed tough, but dev is not all evil, base drains are not drains at all... one only losses RSS and there is an abundance of that around.... Mining, Hostiles, Dalies, Raids, Overages etc.... everyone retains everything else

lean hawk
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@delicate sentinel Hey, sir, can i ask you is there a chance for new refinery fix rates, it's getting unplayable on lvl 27. Some buildings need over 150 uc, refinery on 12K batches drop 3 or 0. And ships and everything needs uc. With this rates it's impossible. Even packs can't help. When i watch youtube player from Founder server who is the same lvl, his refinery dropes 25-30uc and he has even 3x3 chance. Why we don't have that?

burnt summit
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The elite packs help态I agree怂at level 27 it is either a huge amount of money or an infinite amount of mining怂my theory is that the missions etc are not finished for higher levels怂the lack of uncommon resources is a throttle to keep players at lower levels

stiff citrus
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Elliot we have an agreement with 15/20 alliances on our server. No one kills miners unless they are over protection on cargo limit or the miners are sat on empty mines. Works very well. If someone goes around killing empty miners all alliances club together and make that one player/alliance kill on site and batter them into submission.

plush bay
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Starving on our server. We are knocking garbage cans over for rss

ornate hedge
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Ok, I can look past the tacky Netscape 4.0 look and feel. But for the love of God would it kills yas to actually let us see what our real faction Rep is? Hmmmmm I'm thinking of a number between 1 million and 2 million! That gigantic font just to blast 1MILLION across the screen! And the faction Rep level on the left can be seen from space, it's so big! šŸ˜

versed hearth
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my server has pirate rules too but i still rampage on miners i banned level 17 and under from my areas

stiff citrus
idle eagle
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What is Scopley doing about players using bots on the pacific server?

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This is the bots account

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There will be others. If nothing is done this is a valid call for a refund

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Cause no matter how much you invest in this game, it is money wasted

carmine jay
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What does it do? Kill everyone over cargo?

idle eagle
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Yes no matter where your ships are located.

carmine jay
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Wow, ok. That sucks

idle eagle
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We have a discord server with more details coming out

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As I stated earlier... if filth like this is getting away with this nand nothing gets done, I want my money back. It is an automatic bot.

unique glen
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@idle eagle I understand your frustration. But as you've clearly demonstrated your reports are being taken seriously. I'm not sure it is wise to post private conversations here though šŸ˜Ž

idle eagle
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This is on a public server

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Just about the whole server has joined it.

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Want me to send a link?

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Goblin is a high ranking player but even if he is getting hit, what chance do the rest of us have?

unique glen
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Please do, although I think other mods already have it and it's been passed on to the relevant people. Unless this is a different server?

idle eagle
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Same one that you are already in.

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I had 2 ships taken out within 30 secs of being overloaded.

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The guy said hi to me on chat then I got hit. That was lucky for him

hushed swift
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@idle eagle It is being handled.

idle eagle
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I believe the rest of the community deserves to know. Your prices are high but people pay them as to enjoy the game you provide. Now we are being hustled.

hushed swift
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Posting moderator conversations here will not further the goal we all have

idle eagle
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Great

hushed swift
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Which is getting rid of those bots.

idle eagle
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Didn’t know you were a mod

hushed swift
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Please know all mods are dedicated to showing the devs what we have been shown

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I am.

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As is Vorpal.

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The proof of these bots was brought to us, and we have indeed forwarded all conversations with goblin in an effort to get these things stopped.

idle eagle
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Great... please keep the community up to date as there are a lot of angry players out there looking for blood.

hushed swift
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As are we love.

idle eagle
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šŸ˜šŸ‘

hushed swift
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I think Goblin posted our convos there in effort to show we are indeed aware and trying hard to deal with this. So, a little time is all thats needed. Thankyou

leaden herald
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We are starting to get people that have figured out how to warp to G3 systems and park level 9 ships on nodes, which can't be hit and cleared. They are sitting on zeored nodes and just staying there as to keep them indefinitely unavailable. Has the team considered this and/or working on a way to circumvent?

livid vapor
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Um depends, how long ago they started, and what server

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Because warp differences were a lot different early on, so if they had explored the system before warps were changed they can shift their bases there

leaden herald
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Ahh ok, so it shouldn't be possible for any new players? So what we are seeing are older guys that made it there before the changes probably.

livid vapor
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Yeah probably

leaden herald
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Sweet thanks! I guess I will just keep an eye out for more popping up.

livid vapor
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Cos I can for example move my base to Wolf and visit Solar, but now I'd need a warp of 40 to get there from normal space, because I got there before warp changes came in, but I'd been playing from before global release

flint cairn
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I invested $800 in this game, why did they delete my post on improving the game and errors? Then return the money.😔

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What a mess?

cosmic knoll
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i welcome low level players hording nodes ... lets the high ups feel the pain they give the low levels when hording g2 ... dont want the low lvls in g3 space, then let them get their dilithium and g2.... then they can sit on nodes they need for quests @leaden herald . praise be to scotty .. warp range extender.

graceful wyvern
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@flint cairn that’s not investment šŸ˜‚ that’s money spent on entertainment

mighty bramble
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@potent cipher @nova sierra <@&509691205798592532>
You finally wore me down. I think that i've finally hit my spending wall.
i need 480 uc 3* gas to upgrade my 4 defense platforms, then 950 uc 3* ore to upgrade my ops.
and another 800 uc3* ore to upgrade 1 weapon on my bortas
and 1100 uc3* crystal, 90 rare 3* gas, and 400 rare 3* crystal to upgrade my D3
and 60,000 Klingon credits to buy the B'rel
I just don't understand what kind of game has 6-month resource collection times for one item.

The current ultra pack I get has 10 rare crystal in it. So, at that rate and with everything else that comes in it, I think it would only take 40 packs to upgrade my D3. I mean, that's only $4,000.00. Only.

hasty plover
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@potent cipher @delicate sentinel I think a bot may be being employed on my server or it may be an amazing coincidence. My team has an enemy we are at war with. We see them coming and start warping out within the charge up window. They still manage to get us. However, when we attack we do not lock on directly from afar we make sure to get em at close proximity with little to no warning. Works almost every time on miners, but these guys always warp out with us right on top of them. Is there a bot out there that people are using or am I just being paranoid. Is there something being done about all the cheats being used, because people are losing a lot of RSS and real money that are spent on these damned outrageous packs. What will be done to address player losses? A cheap loyalty pack won't cut it.

mint sedge
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@JB.Scopely @delicate sentinel You really need to do something about balancing the PvP game. I'm level 22. I have done all the research possible regarding base defense platforms. My three defense platforms are fully upgraded. Yet, I have no defense against a level 28 player who has a Legionary and an ECS Horizon. He can break my station and take all my unprotected resources without getting much damage.
On the other hand if I try to attack other bases I can't have any loot that would worth the effort. I have a Vaklas, a Kehra and a Northstar. The repair costs for the first two ships are too high compared with the loot I might get.
The high level players have almost nothing to loose when they raid us, the low level players. It is very frustrating.
Thank you.

mint sedge
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<@&509691205798592532> I believe it is possible to introduce the following rule. If the estimated damage done by a base to attacking ship doesn't reduce the ship`s hull health with at least 1/2 of hull health from before the battle, then the ship is not allowed to attack.

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What I'm trying to say is that the attacker of a base should consider the consequences. It is not fair that a level 28 player can attack a level 22 base without having some penalties.
I feel like my base is an easy snack for high level players. And I've done every base defense improvement that was poss 3 at level 22.

hearty zenith
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How do they attack you if you're shielded?

mighty bramble
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Also, would you all STOP rolling out new content and fix what we have?!? If you have an entire team developing new events, missions, factions etc, I really think the game is at a point where you need them on bug-squashing and system-refining assignment. Not new development.

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As much as I hate mining events, I would live through 2 months of them every weekend if it just meant at the end of that 2 months 90% of our concerns were addressed, resolved, and implemented in the game.

versed hearth
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gimme my jellyfish i paid 20 dollars and did all the quests why is this a scam with 25 pieces left to get

nova sierra
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@mighty bramble My guess is the stuff was already in the development pipeline long ago. We (mods) are constantly collecting feedback and escalating issues. I have almost 1,000 people on my server that pool ideas, bugs, feature requests, etc. and send them to me. I condense error reporting, testing, and comment on what I see as pressing to the community. Believe me, I understand the frustration, I have worked in a live software deployment environment before. I was a tester and the software package deployment lead.

I have chatted with many of you in PM and championed many cases to support, with varying degrees of success. My goal is to find long term solutions that make people feel rewarded for their time and money invested. Solutions that w
ork for everyone, every time. Not just bandaid fixes on a per person basis.

For me, Star Trek isn't about power, or destruction, or ruling the galaxy with an iron fist. It's about community. When you are frustrated, I am frustrated, and I am working hard to put that all to bed.

Thank you all for being a part of the family, while we work had for a better tomorrow. ^_^
šŸ––

keen bobcat
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@mint sedge I'm level 21 and can be hit by a level 28 so feel your pain mate

mint sedge
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Thank you @keen bobcat . I really believe that some limitations have to be introduced.

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Maybe my proposal is not the best way to do that but at least I've given it a thought and tried to come up with something.

keen bobcat
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@mint sedge this is the first PVP game I've played where it's level based and not a power bracket. Sometimes yes you may be the smallest fish in the pool but you never know when you will go up a bracket so you can't stay as the big fish for ever. This one you can stay as a big fish for a long time and not worry about being hit

tribal mason
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@Panic
The april daily reward pack is on the store.... but why can't I buy the €20 and €50 packs???
It totally ridiculous you don't make all the packs available for all players... Give them a choise what they want to spent... in the end you lose money with this tactic. Please fix this
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532>

This is a repost, I know. But no reaction or fix whatsoever

nova sierra
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@tribal mason I know that we have had a lot of discussion on packs. While you may not have seen a change yet, it is discussed.

tribal mason
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@nova sierra
The offer is still up for 4 days.. will there be any chance we will see a change or feedback within thw time of te offer?

nova sierra
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I can't say for certain at this time. I will ask Panic for you though

tribal mason
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Thanks

nova sierra
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@chilly hedge

chilly hedge
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Copy that love

nova sierra
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Per your request ^_^ Tag, you're it!

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ā¤

chilly hedge
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🤣🤣🤣

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Fyi hun kespa would be proud

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As am I

nova sierra
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Thank you. I worked hard to get here.

chilly hedge
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I know love

wheat oak
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Do we have a general outage at the moment or is it just Internet from where I am? Three different EU servers, all tiimng out on connextions

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Or login failed

nova sierra
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Woah

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can you post the screen please?

wheat oak
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Ahhh sorry matey - service resumed so no more SS. It was the "Cannot Login" splash, preceded by loading progress bar stuck at around 30%

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I was on two diff access networks (WFi + ADSL and 4G) but same supplier so maybe their backbone or peering

nova sierra
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Ah, gotcha

lone brook
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How is it fair a level 20 being hit by a level 29? Didn't stand a chance

distant ivy
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<@&509691205798592532> I hope $20 packs will be introduced soon. Once mine left and all my event packs jumped to $100 I pretty much lost any chance at buying anything. OPS 25 but even the expensive packs are pointless because they are mostly 2* junk which at 25 I do not need any of

raven fossil
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Offer number 3 crystal in the faction store. It is by far difficult to mine especially if you cannot enter the Klingon or romulan systems because they are hostile.

steep bronze
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@distant ivy I feel the same indeed. about to build ops25 and its just not worth it with all the g2 materials

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I dont mind spending a little - but i refuse to spend 50 - 100 on a pack where its just mostly junk to me

distant ivy
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@steep bronze yep same here. I could save up and once every month and a half buy a $100 but until they make them actually worth it I will put my money elsewhere

steep bronze
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i haven't spend a single euro anymore since januari or so.. just cause of that reason

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i gave my feedback multiple times how i would like to see my spending options but so far it seems they rather have only the few folks that keep spending on the 100 packs

tiny fulcrum
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Exactly, so many people have said they would love to support but can't as there is no options to. $100 is an amount I am unwilling to spend in one go.

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eg. The Ultra ship power, 84 uncommon ore is not enough to upgrade 1 part on the Kumari at my current level.

tiny fulcrum
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@delicate sentinel regarding allowing the small to mid spenders to support the game what about something like:

Split the Ultra pack into 10x $10 packs and divide the resources
ie per $10 ultra pack:
10 x 800 Lathium
22x of each 3* ship part
20x of each 3* uncommon
1.5 million trit
etc...

Then everything that doesn't fit into the packs like the 3x trit tokens can be given in a loyalty pack once you have purchased all 10 packs

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Until something is done about the upgrade packs I have not choice but to be an f2p player again and have also started exploring other games

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@calm root I know you're generally responsive, is there any info around what you were talking about the other day and the options for mid level spenders?

calm root
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No new info At the moment. But I have provided that feedback in a few variations.

tiny fulcrum
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Cool, thank you.

pseudo dagger
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Is the kumari the end game for basic players. I'm finally getting close to unlocking my shipyard to build this thing, excited may have it in 2 weeks. However I just sorta feel from the cost of faction ships the terrible amounts of RSS and rares that those ship needs for upgrades that this ship may be my endgame.

manic pagoda
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basically, if you look at the general discussion posts directed at the moderators you'll see lots of players feel the same way

torn karma
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<@&509691205798592532> after lvl 21 grade 2 materials are useless i would love to buy the April pack but am not willing to spend $$ on grade 2 materials.

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<@&509691205798592532> the best thing you guys could possibly do at this point is create a way to transmute grade 1 and 2 materials and parts to grade 3.

nova sierra
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0,o

torn karma
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I know this had been said before just going to keep trying 😃

nova sierra
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I made that post earlier this morning @torn karma ... You looking through my windows????

torn karma
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Yes kell and for god sakes put some clothes on :p

nova sierra
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are you still fixing that range @nova sierra ? šŸ˜‚

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No, I fix, I fix

torn karma
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<@&509691205798592532> last but not least this game needs the bank and market. Use the bank to turn in old g2 junk into g3... and we need to be able to trade there is too much of a separation between low players and high players a market would bridge that gap. I suggest the market being only within alliance

nova sierra
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Fun fact, your stove probably CAN'T have the top removed if it's new. Thank the maker I found the manual. I was about to make poooooooor life choices with natural gas ^_^

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@torn karma Here is my proposal

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1,000 x 1* mat = 500 x 2* mat = 250 x 3* mat

merry current
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<@&509691205798592532> just looked what @delicate sentinel calls a full a list of things coming in the update and same as what was posted here, other games have 4 or 5 pages of details on chages, fixes and new additions to the game this was 5 paragraphs of basic here are some changes. Thanks guys lots of help that is

torn karma
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<@&509691205798592532> maybe kill two birds with one stone use the market to allow trading of mats and parts in exchange for shards. Example 100 g2 uncommon crystal. Bought from market for 100k para steel. And the seller receives 10 elite shards

nova sierra
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I dunno man. I am just trying to help you guys out. That's all. If you are frustrated, then I am frustrated. Trust me. I am here for you!

torn karma
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<@&509691205798592532> please give us more g3 nodes the competition to mine is getting bad...

nova sierra
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If I could wave a magic wand ^_^

torn karma
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@nova sierra your a wizard harry 😃

nova sierra
torn karma
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Lol

nova sierra
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@nova sierra guess whats not fixed here ,yup,and they wont take my calls..

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@nova sierra Sorry, very busy night/morning. Send me a PM? I am happy to help

torn karma
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<@&509691205798592532> please allow us to invite additional people to pm chat... so we effectively coordinate raids, alliance discussions, and miner defense

flint cairn
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@graceful wyvern enough to be clever, I am a marketing specialist, there is a deception, the game does not allow to develop, try to launch 28 lvlšŸ˜Ž

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Recycling does not work at 27lvl, the get of the unusual is close to 0. To build a shipyard of 27lvl, it takes 2-3 months. What's next?

idle fable
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Do any of devs keep track of new players on servers? Or player drop outs? Any plans to merge servers? Even if there is big unbalance on lvls, would rather play on unbalanced but populated server then in dead one. Also it would be incentive for ppl to spend more cash.

analog bolt
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@delicate sentinel So currently these are my costs <@&509691205798592532> for moving from 26 to 27 and what the Kumari costs to get just one additional element (Armor). If you do the math is requiring over 700 Uncommon Ore. 700. There isn’t a package to get 700. The best I found was 128. I would need to buy 6 $100 packages to level up and level up my Kumari.

Next problem? The rest of that freaking package has 26 million in Parsteel EACH. I will now have nearly 200 million in Parsteel that is able to be stolen if there is a drop in my bubble.

I propose that you immediately change that and the other metal/elements you are providing in a $100 package to tokens. It is totally asinine to expect me to risk $600 and as a result it’s probably not going to happen.

Spent $1000 last month. You’re welcome. But the gravy train, at least from me, is over unless something gets fixed. I’ll spend the money, but I won’t risk losing it to raiding. Ball is in your court.

tiny fulcrum
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@analog bolt I wouldn't even both, have you checked the reviews online. It's the same sentiment everywhere from big players to small players.

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The team putting the packs together should be fired.

analog bolt
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I could support that @tiny fulcrum Marketing a business and marketing for gaming are two different things.

tiny fulcrum
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They've alienated almost the entire community and when questioned during the Q&A, their excuse was "technical debt".

analog bolt
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Technical debt??? WTF does that even mean?

shrewd girder
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Should change the color schemes in chat; between Galaxy, Alliance, and Private - or at least between Galaxy and Alliance - to better differentiate them. People are always accidentally posting Alliance stuff in Galaxy, on accident.

tiny fulcrum
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@analog bolt Technical debt is everything that you need to maintain, like code and servers. So blaming the high costs on technical debt is an indication of bad planning.

I think it's more of a case of the game hasn't been developed really after level 40 so they're slowing down progress by making it impossible to level without spending loads of $$$. The consequence of that is people are leaving in droves or simply not spending anymore. Which in turn makes the whales leave because there isn't really much to do. Classic death spiral.

Thing is, I've tried a few other games over the past few days but I really do enjoy this one but they need to urgently re-evaluate their funding model.

odd moon
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@analog bolt tech debt is where you makes a devils bargain to get a new feature or something in. You do it the way you have to to meet the timeline.. but doing that over a long period of time adds up and eventually you have to pay it off or fail. Seen it go both ways.

analog bolt
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Ahh, I’ve considered that capital debt. That make total sense now. Well the biggest problem with MMORPG is getting the balance correct. This is a problem that needs addressing or they will see interest start piling on their Technical Debt.

acoustic zenith
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Oh what a surprise! The blinkered greed of the company that refuses to losten to peoples concerns.

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Im going to leave a scathing review on their googleplay page and anywhere I can. May even post on social media to avoid this moneytrap like the plague it is.

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Any mods here?

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<@&509691205798592532> Are you hiding or just ignoring us?

nova sierra
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We are unpaid volunteers. We moderate relative to what our own personal workload allows us to and what messages we can keep track of. No we aren’t ignoring or hiding from you.

acoustic zenith
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Well thats good. Sadly it shows how little they care about you guys too! You get all the flak for nothing while they reap the profits

odd moon
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did something happen or just general "i hate this game"?

nova sierra
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We do it because we love the game for our own reasons. we want to see it succeed. Also since we aren’t a part of scopely and as players we are better positioned to hear your concerns

acoustic zenith
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Yes I'm pi**ed tight off. 7 times I've asked to have lower pack price offers brought back on a cyclic basis to help lower budget players a bit. But not even a consideration or poll on here or the game to see how people feel.

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Right*

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If they read the reviews its certainly not succeeding like you wish.

tough beacon
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Sounds like you better quit

acoustic zenith
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I would except what does that achieve for others?

odd moon
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If you are on my server, can you post your coords before you quit? I need more Par and Trit to finish my build

acoustic zenith
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Nah! Why make it easy for them. Nothing ever changed by quitting without making a point. Guess you lot either have more money than sense.

odd moon
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nope, lvl 24 in two months... spent i think 10 bucks total

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having fun, meeting people, making alliances

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game is what you make it, I'm happy scopley has their servers running even if they are sometimes buggy as heck

tough beacon
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Nah... not that I have more money the sense... you are just coming across like a complainer that is bitter... I find you annoying

odd moon
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really the fun part has been meeting new folks and making more friends in aussieland and ireland

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no clue how i ended up on that server, but seems split between the two and good times on both

acoustic zenith
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I like the social aspect. Thats the only reason I stay. But maybe if you listened to how many people are pissed off with the outrageous cost in this game you might realise its not just me moaning

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@tough beacon and I find you an arrogant person.

surreal condor
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I think it's perfectly within your rights to be discontent or feel things should be different. As long as the discussion stays constructive, it's all good. I don't disagree on the pack pricing structure and have given that same feedback myself. I'm mostly ftp - I'd be far more likely to spend money if pricing were different.

As far as the comment on polls, I do get surveys now and then. Like you, I play this game and have thoughts about what could be better so I use those in-game surveys to provide feedback every chance I get.

acoustic zenith
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So do I @surreal condor.

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Thankyou for a mature and honest response. I am sure you understand why people are getting frustrated when this has been brought up several times in the last few months. Surely thats enough of a hint to them.

nova sierra
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or comps when things go badly,...

surreal condor
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I find myself comparing this to another game I play, at times. In that game, there are $1, $5, $10, $20, $50 and $100 packs. Even the $1 offer a decent value in terms of basic materials. In that game, I find myself clicking buy far more often. Although the total expenditure probably amounts to about the same, I'm just more likely to go for a microtransaction (or several) than a big one. And it also matters to me what the return on investment is - if I don't feel I'm getting enough for that price point, I'm just not tempted. So I totally get it.

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That game makes over $400M in revenue per year.... something like $865M in its first 2 years, I think. So micro definitely works. LOL

acoustic zenith
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Yes! Thats exactly what I feel too. I am happy to spend £5 every now and again but £10, £20 and up when the stuff you get still won't get you much further is grating on people.

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I have contacted through email, chat and msg to raise this issue at least 5 times in 3 months and still the packs remain high except the shield pack which is frankly useless for growing

wheat oak
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tier 7 impulse engine on the D3 is 1200 uncommon 3 star crystals. looking forward to that šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚

surreal condor
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OUCH. LOL

acoustic zenith
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Good luck. You'll get there by christmas possibly.

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Unless you pay £2000 to get there quicker

nova sierra
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heck,i cant get 1 stinking rare crystal..uncommons are,so so

wheat oak
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t7 weapon is 38 rare 😜

nova sierra
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2 different mining events,2 different bonus refineries

jagged vector
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This game is broken, I just got hit again even though I was shielded - with no notice of the attack. I am tired of the crÔp and Büllshït - Scopely has refused to restore my resources from the previous station raid and now I get the same thing happening again? This time at least I didn't get taken by Scopely - I didn't buy a pack. I just lost everything that I worked for over the last couple of weeks, over 400k of dilithium. I don't expect anything from Scopley Customer Support, I just wanted to let you know how screwed up this game is.

acoustic zenith
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Tbh the whole game needs a revamp to make these gosls reachable by all players

jagged vector
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No time difference between the first attack and the rest of the attacks, so even if I wasn't shielded, it should have given me the 5 minute auto-shield.

surreal condor
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I think some of these challenges are because the game is so new. In the example I gave above, the game is now 3 years old and I started playing when it was roughly 2 years old. So they'd had a lot more time to work out bugs and pricing, etc. For what it's worth, I feel this game has great potential - or I wouldn't be playing still or volunteering my time here - and it will evolve and improve. It will take time though.

acoustic zenith
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Just me complaining eh? Sounds like scopely don't give a flying monkeys ass about the players enjoyment

wheat oak
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@jagged vector looks like the battlelog got truncated, no? generally the log doesn't hold enough entries to see the whole atrack

acoustic zenith
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@surreal condor all well and good but whats the point of sorting little glitches when the biggest gripe is cost and fairness.

twilit slate
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Created a ticket regarding missing alliance event rewards over 24hrs ago, no response from CS at all and still no rewards.
@delicate sentinel @nova sierra @potent cipher

surreal condor
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Depends on the glitches. I'd personally like to see a few of those get fixed even more than the pack pricing since I can resist tapping "buy".

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@twilit slate - pm me your player ID please and a brief description of the issue.

acoustic zenith
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I'm not against you btw. You've been very fair and honest. I respect that. I do however feel desperately sorry for you. The impression people get is that the feedback goes in the shredder while they laugh and open another crate of beer in their hottub.

surreal condor
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If there really is beer and a hot tub, then you should definitely feel sorry for me because I haven't been invited to that party!

acoustic zenith
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Come to mine! Got beer and a large pool. ...well its the atlantic ocean actually 🤣🤣

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Deffo ain't hot though! 🄶

fast gulch
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Fix it first then add on!

acoustic zenith
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@surreal condor get your bikini on and it's party time. The waters so cold we could play throw the hoops on the nipples 🤣🤣

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Joys of living in UK.

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Anyway. I am off to bed. Knackered.

jagged vector
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@wheat oak nope, that was the last time I attacked something.

wheat oak
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ahh ok. my f2p alt base got raided yesterday and I had 3-4 old messages of my npc hunting, at the bottom, and the rest were base hits BUT the initial hits weren't there, just the last ones

olive wren
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How long for in game support to reply? I bought a package and was given the incorrect chest.

calm root
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Usually within 24h, though I believe they may have a high ticket volume atm. So might be a bit more than that.

storm hornet
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I've had a ticket in for at least 4 days with no reply so far, don't feel bad @olive wren

olive wren
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Thanks

lilac saffron
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@wheat oak the game only saves the most recent 20 battle reports with the occassional old reports lingering and occupying a slot. If it was more that 20 hits, you will not be able to see the initial hits

graceful berry
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Anyone else having very long response times from in game support? 2 days and no response

lavish sedge
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Its scopely 3rd party support. Get used to being let down.

copper girder
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@delicate sentinel I am lvl 29 research capped, built almost all the buildings up to and excluding the shipyard and I am about to level to associate with the Federation. The loyalty system feels like a kick in the nuts, because I cannot complete the dailies anymore. Faction dailies are too hard and I need to complete 2 out of three of the following to achieve last chest:

  1. building
  2. research
  3. faction champion
    All 3 of this are nigh impossible. Thanks!
nova sierra
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@copper girder kill some of your chosen faction until you drop down a rank and the dailies are manageable again

copper girder
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@nova sierra sure why not. Let’s waste Tritanium and Dilithium to reduce my main faction so that I can struggle to kill lvl 33 while I am anyway unable to complete the last chest due to the research and the buildings being needing the same uncommon crystals that I need to upgrade my Saladin.

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Seriously

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How about balance the dailies so that they make sense?

burnt summit
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Then I wouldn’t have to buy packs for 3 star gas

nova sierra
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it's a stop gap solution until your ships and crew can manage, i think the commendation rank IV is needed for an ops 36 story mission, just to give you an idea of the intended progress curve, although most players over shoot this by a good margin

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on the plus side you may get some uncommon/rare prints from drops killing your chosen faction npc

stuck atlas
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Can the 10 min chest be with par to player lvl, still getting 2 *parts,overloaded and outdated.

burnt summit
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Is there content for those over level 30?

copper girder
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I am just doing the dailies, is it my problem if by doing it I am stuck with quests definitely designed tor much higher levels?

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I am not farming faction, but I need tokens! For ships and for officers. Is it my mistake if they setup an event that rewards you with 150 tokens and 25k rep?

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I am seriously annoyed with the band aid solutions. Is this the first progression based multiplayer game? Why do we need to reinvent the wheel?

nova sierra
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you choose to participate, how about doing a mission or two from other factions to help balance your numbers?

copper girder
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Dont you think I did that already?

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Do you see Romulan dailies if you have negative faction?

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NO

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There is no way to recover from negative faction

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Once you finish the normal quests is grinding own faction hostiles and foregoing dailies tokens and chests if you want to get back into any other faction or lower your onw

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Again. Have you played other games? There are tons of solution to this. This is just bad design.

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First faction dailies should be bound to your level not to your faction score. This would solve the balance problem from the start. Easy to implement

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Second you should have some sort of path to manage your factions

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Third the building/research dailies are not reasonable past a certain level because you are not building one each day

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These are the problems so stop putting it on me "overshooting" the target

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Bloody frustrating, over and out

wheat oak
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@copper girder Agree it's frustrating but for me it's only the building/research dailies which are impossible. That's because I chose to put uncommons into ship upgrades, which seem far more important to me in the high 20's ops levels. This means that I can do the faction dailies easily - my D3 kills lvl33 Roms with the first volley, taking only one small hit (around 1.5k damage on the hull), so can do the 25 needed with very little damage.

copper girder
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@wheat oak Yep well I have also the problem that #payflowersucks, so my 320kTier 3 Saladin is actually much better then my 450k payflower for faction hostiles. Still to kill 3-4 lvl 33 hostiles I need to kill 10 in total because there are no lvl 33 battleships around.. then I need to repair. Level 35 hostiles? 1 kill 1 repair

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There is no way getting around bad design I am afraid

wheat oak
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I feel your pain mate. Which faction are you killing? There are usually plenty of Rom battleships 33-34 in Kaisu(33)

copper girder
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Klingon

wheat oak
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Eeli(33) should be the Kling equivalent

tiny cloud
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@delicate sentinel how will you address faction balance with new augment faction??? Seems far too strong

fathom copper
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@copper girder i have the same problem as you, they call it a "loyalty system" but the most loyal players that spend 1k+ usd, and played the game close to 6 month now, are getting fucked by this new system, i am associate( 2mil+) with Klingon, so i need to kill lvl 35 to do daylies. I could do that if my D3 Class main skill worked as intended but it dos not, and i guess they never gone a fix it. @delicate sentinel <@&509691205798592532> You need to steep up here and tell those ppl behind the game to wake up thx.

copper girder
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Yeah this is the opposite of a loyalty system

fathom copper
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Make some new quest you need to do, to get those tokens, not just click this click that, but new content. The game needs it

wheat oak
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@fathom copper Could you explain what that is about D3's skill not working? I'm having very pleasant success with D3 against Romulans.

nova sierra
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Given the new update and complaints of hard/unachievable dailies, I'd like to suggest new additional dailies that add towards the update's theme:

Destroy 5 player ships with resources. -> 10 points
Destroy 25 player ships with resources. -> 20 points
Defeat 1 player base. -> 10 points
Defeat 3 player bases. -> 25 points
Succesfully defend your base -> 10 points
Succesfully defend your base 3 times -> 25 points
Mine **** Corrupted or Decoded Data. -> xx points
Mine ***** Corrupted or Decoded Data. -> xx points

copper girder
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This is imo Priority for this game:

  1. fix base resource mining so that it is relevant, right now if you compare upgrade/repair costs with the time it would take to mine those resources you can laugh or cry. But there is no way that mining is actually useful except for g3 resources
    2.Rework pve content balance both dailies(faction, buildings, research) and missions (mine 1 milion dilithium?, travel to Sol?).
  2. Daily events which are not credit card driven
  3. Some option for players not interested in playing space pirates. This is a bloody Star Trek game, where is the exploration, the diplomacy?
fathom copper
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@wheat oak Can you try to attack a Rom trader and a fed trader, lvl 28 and then send the screenshots to me in PM, would like to see if D3 is working on some server but not on others?

tiny fulcrum
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I don't even bother with PVE mission much anymore because it's always fork out millions in RSS to receive little to no reward

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Or as TVok said, travel to unreachable systems.

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As for the new rewards system. At the moment I can just finish them but that's becoming the non norm as buildings are taking 2 days to finish.

nova sierra
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As it stands now the new loyalty system is garbage for two reasons I've already spent 5 months upgrading and now at my current level of 33 it takes quite a bit of uncommon to even attempt at getting the last tier on a daily

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So how can you say you're rewarding your most dedicated players when you're most dedicated players can't even receive the loyalty that you're trying to even give them? Except for every once in awhile able to fully complete a daily

fathom copper
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@delicate sentinel maybe you can something about this loyalty system

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High lvl players seems to agree about its bs

nova sierra
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well,they can buy whatever..sooo

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@nova sierra what's that supposed to mean just because I can buy does that mean I have to be excluded or limited?

wheat oak
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@fathom copper Will do, as soon as game's back up. If lvl 28s limit the info, I'll also try some highers.

nova sierra
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no,that yoi do buy..and are seemingly expected to continue doing so the get the goodies

fathom copper
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Could be great Steve, if you can lvl 31 those are the ones i have info on

nova sierra
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Anyways they're taking a dump on the high-level players that have been the most loyal to the game

wheat oak
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Definately can do 31s. Traders are the ones you want yes? Hopefully there are ROm traders of that level... :dashes over to Hivemind: šŸ˜‰

nova sierra
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dead,not gonna disagree,this might jowever help with some power discrepencies

wheat oak
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@fathom copper Apparently there are no level 31 traders in any faction, unless that changed since last Hivemind input from users.

nova sierra
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or just be a resourse farm..

fathom copper
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ok the difference in servers could be more then just a little then

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Those are 2 month old or se

wheat oak
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Do you remember where you hit them?

fathom copper
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Yes lvl 30 system

wheat oak
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OK I'll have a look around

nova sierra
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  • Not all traders must to spawn in every system containing faction patrols.

  • Not all traders are spawning in systems intended to do it.

  • Not all missing traders, belongs to the same faction, but:

  • Federation faction is the faction with all traders spawning in correct places. All of their levels could be found. But Klingon and Romulan, not.

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@wheat oak
Noakyn (30) Federation area. Traders level 29-30-31. Checked.

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It is supposed to be a copy/paste in other faction areas, by example: H'Atoria (30). But Klingon traders 29-30-31 are not spawning there.

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And the level 29-30-31 Romulan traders are spawning correct, but cannot remember the system, sorry

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And Morska (29) Klingon area, never spawns a Klingon trader far beyond level 28. It is intended to appear there, through cycles, traders 28-29-30. But...

wheat oak
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@nova sierra Thanks, I'll see how it goes in Noakyn and the elusive Rom system

undone cedar
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The final tier of dailies is too expensive for level 30's with 2m faction rep. I am expected to kill 25 level 35 hostiles. That's a lot of repairs. I can't upgrade my station or complete research without uncommons.

Your new "loyalty" token is insulting.

tiny cloud
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@undone cedar I need to kill 25 level 27 hostiles and I’m only level 21. I can’t even kill 1, and that’s with only 26k faction rep

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And at such a low level I need to be permanently shielded,as even with automatic shielding, a one hit Kumari or stronger will take everything before I can respond. It would be nice if they reduced the levels that you can hit below

copper girder
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They need to tie the faction dailies to your level and not to the faction points! Not that hard

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I wonder why in months of testing this was not done

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Also they need to have a daily for the factions you are hostile with so you can regain their trust

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And they need to lower the last chest point requirement so you can complete it without research and building and power creep

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It’s all very easy

civic slate
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disagree @copper girder faction dailies tied to rep score is the way it should be. and absolutely disagree on regaining trust with all three factions if you're hostile in one. it keeps the universe expanded... at best, any one player only has access to 2 faction areas, keeping everyone spread out. and finally, the last chest requirement is accomplished with double faction... enough grind will get ya there. nothing in life is free. work for it lol you can get there.

copper girder
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@civic slate Point 1. I don’t see an argument on why it should be bound to faction score, only ā€œit’s the way it should beā€ Point 2. I am talking about regaining a second faction .... Point 3. sure do the math on the grind necessary to get back from -550k.

wheat oak
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An explanaition of how the contents of those new 30day loyalty chests are calculated would be nice.
Two ops 27 bases have different amounts of uncommons. One has 40 of each, one has 80 of each. And a lvl 29 (oldest and most-often finished dailies) has only 50 of each
That second 27 gets more shards than first (and more than the lvl 29)
Commons however, follow the logical progression

civic slate
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@copper girder yes, that math sucks lol but it could have been avoided early... you can get there... but the grind is real... regarding point 1, no, it's not the only way it should be, but i can see validity to why it is that way... you must work to level up to get there... to get to consort, you must have a certain power ship, meaning you must have grown... if you keep it level based, you could get an antares as a level 16, or a 17, unacceptable. if you remove the faction score requirement, then anyone can sit on their haunches and grind out rep and get faction ships. can't be that way.

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@wheat oak agree... before update mine was showing only a 7 day, at 16 uncommon. and now my 7 day is 10 uncommon, but a 30 day is only 40 uncommon, i'm at level 26... i got nerfed lol

wheat oak
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Very strange, cos if it's based on "loyalty", that lvl 29 has done waaaaay more than the others. THe 7day chests are similar lvl29<lvl27)

copper girder
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@civic slate a what are you talking about? Antares has shipyard requirements! I am talking about having reasonable dailies at your level and not 5 level higher because your rep is too high! Less work and less reward. This has nothing to do with having the Antares earlier, all things considered you would have it later

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Also yes it could have been avoided early on, when you are 15-18 and you have no clue. How about you give a path to correct those mistakes? The game does not have to be punishing, I cannot and will not grind 2 weeks at millions of trit and dili of expenses because of lazy designers

cinder garden
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Yup unless you started the game going for 2 factions it's very easy to get far into one only and once you're there it's nearly impossible to recover

daring hornet
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@delicate sentinel Just a suggestion/thought/feedback, but... Locking the Loyalty badges behind all of the daily tasks is a little more than frustrating. I have 0 building left to do while waiting on the refinery to give me enough uncommon ore to go to Ops 25, and I am nearly done with all my research as well (1 or 2 left). Also, I'm working on digging out a romulan faction rep, so not doing daily fed missions. I'm sure I'm not the only one in this boat that can't/doesn't want to do all tasks to get a "loyalty" token, even though I log in every day and play for hours every day. Any chance we could get those moved to a "guaranteed" drop from the 22 hour chest, or some other mechanic? Or even a little lower spot in the daily rewards? Because where it's at now I, and I'm sure many others, get screwed out of many good awards, even though we spend hours on the game each day

distant ivy
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<@&509691205798592532> since maintence my game has returned to crashing and lagging... now it is randomly crashing about every 5-10 minutes

torn karma
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<@&509691205798592532> since the patch now my North star takes 2x the repair time...

nova sierra
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Yep, we've forwarded this to the developers

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I've noticed it as well

wheat oak
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The repairs don't seem to take into account any research/buildings/crew any more

copper girder
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@wheat oak Guess who is not doing hostile dailies today

sage shuttle
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so 36 bp is max via missions for the botany bay so when can we expect the events?

wheat oak
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They said Thursday @sage shuttle

muted swift
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@daring hornet it's not locked behind all of the daily quests, just the last tier of the daily quest rewards. It's possible to reach that number without completing them all, especially if you're running dual faction.

copper girder
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@muted swift if you are around lvl 30 single faction and associate you are royally fucked

muted swift
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Ah gotcha

daring hornet
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@muted swift hence why I'm not doing fed dailies, to dig out of the romulans rep hole I made.

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@copper girder speaks truth

copper girder
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@daring hornet and you are missing out on tokens ...

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Either way you are screwed

muted swift
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Guess dual was the way to go

daring hornet
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Yep

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I messed mine up when I first started going for fed rep, so trying to fix it now. Slow going, though

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Hence why no fed dailies

copper girder
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Pity that bar 2 weeks of continuous grind and millions of trit burned in the process there is no way to revert that mistake

daring hornet
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Yep

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Other than taking my fed rep by doing romulans quests to help slightly

muted swift
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They should let you opt in to the faction event even if they don't like you, to help reverse it @delicate sentinel please have devs take this into consideration

daring hornet
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So yeah... Having them on the 5th reward really sucks, and I know it's not just me that will have issues

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That would be nice, yeah

arctic kelp
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Please make the refinery a guaranteed tiered approach based on refinery level...refine raw g3 to get guaranteed common, then further refine the common to get a guaranteed uncommon, then refine the uncommon to get guaranteed rare

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The would still be slow enough to entice spenders, but allow everyone to somewhat progress in an already difficult progressing game.. and to refine based on current needs

rigid pulsar
smoky marsh
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Its called an exploit "bug" whatever you wanna call it that the Dev's refuse to fix. People have been reporting it and bugged invulnerable planets for months and they dont fix it because the guys that spend all the money take advantage of the way the game is..

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@delicate sentinel Could you please explain why the faction killing ship missions (daily) increase so drastically with faction level? IE you hit 100k Fed and I have to kill lvl 29 ships to get all my dailies done. i can only kill lvl26, maybe a 27. So in essence unless I want to go kill Fed and drop 20k+ faction points to take me back down to the next level i can't complete the dailies for the rewards

nova sierra
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@delicate sentinel loyalty tokens don’t actually translate to loyalty, as most of your paying player base can’t complete the last tier of dailies unless they have dual faction, which your game isn’t designed to support well. Should I just get my chargeback now since you’re devaluing all the purchases that paying players have made to date and referring to them as disloyal?

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I’m sick of this garbage game design.

torn karma
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<@&509691205798592532> i finished all my new missions and some of them gave me augment credits.. but my inventory and faction store show 0

nova sierra
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Yeah, I saw that as well. I meant to take an SS of mission but forgot.

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Do you have it? Trying forward to devs

torn karma
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My brother will get us screenshots

nova sierra
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When I went to collect got nothing.

torn karma
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Yes and both the mystery boxes are still a mystery lol

nova sierra
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One mission gave me nothing when I completed it.

torn karma
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I remember one said 27 credits and it went to my storage but now shows 0

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Im assuming building the ship gives you access to the new space? Anyone really know yet

nova sierra
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I think it’s bullshit if me at level 22 can’t hit someone who is level 16, but some asshole who is level 30 can hit me.

eternal tide
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I’m consort with the Federation and enemy with Roms & Klingons. I need a consort rep with Klingons to buy the last 6 shards for the Bortas?? In faction store ..

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This is ridiculous! I worked hard to get almost 2 million Fed points

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@delicate sentinel

nova sierra
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WHERE IN STAR TREK STORY ARE THERE MINING SHIPS ? I THINK YOU GET CONFUSED WITH ANOTHER SERIES ... YOU HAVE DESTROYED THE GAME ! I DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS FOOLISH GAME ANYMORE

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@delicate sentinel

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your moderator here pass only fake idea and suggestions to the developer, pushing themself for radical modification nothing have to share with start trek SERIES

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the feedback and idea are not moderated: if a person wants to propose an idea a moderator have to stop flamers that flood with negative comments without taking new ideas

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i suggested a lot of stuff and i was flooded also by moderator themself

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YOU RUNIED A GAME A GAME, YOU TAKE A BRAND A MAKE A MINING GAME ON IT

daring hornet
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Uh... There's mining ships all over the place in Star Trek. And Mining colonies...

nova sierra
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@daring hornet in your dreams

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dilitium is synthesized

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not extracted

daring hornet
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not in the early days of Star Trek. Dilithium was mined

nova sierra
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your ignorance of start trek story is equal as your flamer ability

daring hornet
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Well, that's funny because I'm not trying to flame

nova sierra
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DO A FEEDBACK YOURSELF NOT FLAME AND FLOOD MINE

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@delicate sentinel this is another example of how the moderator here are futile

daring hornet
nova sierra
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i am not free to make my own feedback

daring hornet
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You are, I was just stating that there were mining ships and other mining activities in Star Trek

nova sierra
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putting you in ignore list

daring hornet
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šŸ˜‚ OK then

nova sierra
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flame yourself and alone

daring hornet
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still curious as to where I flamed you...

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If anything you were flaming the developers and mods... your comments to them were worse than anything I said to you this whole time

nova sierra
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so going to write to CBS TO MAKE THEM A CHECK ON WHAT IS BECAME THIS MINING TREK !!!

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better to ask to Minecraft to develop this game for them

unique glen
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@nova sierra you are very welcome to express your opinion. However please do so in a respectful and constructive manner. Consider this a warning.

cursive finch
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@delicate sentinel I, am not trying to bitch. Whine, Complain etc. But, voice a concern. I have seen damn good players, and some crappy ones, all quit over the same issue. The refinery. Once you hit the refinery wall. There is no relief in sight, unless you spend large amounts of cash on packs. Now, don't get me wrong, I have dropped some money in the game. How ever, When I realized that buying 2 ship packs, would not even allow me to tier my Kumari. I stopped. Why? Because at that rate I would have had to spend over $800 to tier it up once. And, even upgrading the base and research just to get to having a Horizon. Would be a large expenditure. Currently I have been waiting on 4 (yes 4) uncommon gas , or 42 uncommon ore so I can start the research tree for the Horizon. Care to guess how long, I have been waiting to get this ore? It has been 3 weeks. Even with the bonus refinery which did get me alot closer. I am still waiting on these materials. Right now, I think the overall game economy is broken. Between the millions of res that you want donated for missions, to the ungodly amounts of common/uncommon 3* mats for the upgrades. It takes a large portion of the enjoyment out of the game. Atleast, in my opinion. I am sure you have heard this many times. And, chances are you will read up to the Refinery mention and then cast it off as another complaint. I just hope, that there is a plan in place to reduce the costs, or increase the rewards from the refinery, and the missions that require millions of res to complete.

Thank You,

pseudo dagger
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What's the difference in foundry servers rifenery and regular. I hear it's way better, maybe consideration should be put to making that refinery on all servers.

rough dagger
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@scopely you really need to look at giving daily reward tokens to everyone from the time they started playing this alpha state game

tiny fulcrum
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@cursive finch What you are saying is echo'ed daily by many people and I've also started seeing people leaving in droves

cursive finch
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And that is my concern. I keep getting told that the inability to get resourses is why people are leaving. Everyone I have talked to has said the refinery is why they are leaving. They can't get what they need to progress, there of stagnent game, there of bordem, there of c ya

tiny fulcrum
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It's the refinery and the overpriced packs

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There is no way I am spending $100 to be able to upgrade 1 component on the Kumari

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I think we've been milked enough

unreal aspen
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The refinery conversion cost and the gambling from it is rather annoying. And the fact that when you look at some of the packs, the 'vault of latinum' for $99 is LESS bang for your buck compared to the other $99 with 3-4x the amount of latinum.

stable ruin
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dont talk about that

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they might reduce the latinum in these packs then

vital iron
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More bugs no romulan credits for upgrades

bold sentinel
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It doesn't matter if people quit, new people come along, spend money, then quit when they hit the wall

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Then repeat

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As long as steady income is rolling in, no problem. That's business

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And it's crap

broken osprey
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While I've no plans to quit playing, I just won't be spending more money until the refinery is fixed. The "Loyalty Chests" are fine and all that, but the refinery is still the biggest heartbreaker/heartache in the game.
The past few days I experimented by opening 75k versus 12k batches. A dozen of each, I only had one 12k batch with no uncommons. The 75k batches again.... only one had any uncommons today, and no rares in any case.
The total rares for approximately 1.2million raw g3 resources? One. (1)
Total uncommon? 110 Total. All types.

The fact that the packs changed content again yet there has been no "catch-up" chest for the past ones, and I still have no idea if I'm ever getting the officer shards that disappeared.....just reinforcement to avoid spending on the game for a while.

Level 33 in case you want to know. Yes, I've spent quite a bit. No I'm not a "Founder".

opal marlin
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The biggest problem is that players get robbed by stronger pkayers who are not willing to mine for themselve... cause its easier to be a pieat and thief then to play honorable... so its hard for weaker players to evolve .

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Farm 30000 parasteel for a needed build and gett robves isn't very pleasing and dissapoints

cursive finch
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ok, i don't buy that. Why, because even the weakest players on my server know to use....

Stay with me now

SHIELDS

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If you shield, you don't have to worry, the lack of their use is what causes the bigger fish to eat you

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don't give them the option to eat you

wicked jetty
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@opal marlin I am playing honorably. I mine plenty of par/trit/dil from the quickest and most available sources 😃

gaunt lagoon
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How about putting the recall button ABOVE the manage button away from the locate button??

keen berry
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The last maintenance appears to have repaired the home screen exit issue. Thanks

opal marlin
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@cursive finch funny... my mining ships are blown of the mines...

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My base is safe

cursive finch
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No mining accord on your server?

ripe oak
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Mining accords....🤣

cursive finch
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Yea, we just started one on our server, after being told we were on of the last servers to have one.

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And, that is what was stunting our growth, and why Scopley wouldn't merge any servers with us...

surreal condor
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You still can't migrate, HAL.... šŸ˜‰

cursive finch
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That's ok, at the rate things are going, I may be homeless.

nova sierra
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So anyone got the full botany bay? curious to see if it's a lemon,or something

wheat oak
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Hard to tell. Need Plutonium to upgrade some parts šŸ˜‚

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ANd ain't got none

nova sierra
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so...is there a way to get the BB without cash? as im poor and on disability this sux that it costs money to get the 30 parts

wicked jetty
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yes

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do the missions and collect the daily chest from the faction store

nova sierra
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so like 5 days or so

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im at 36 parts now

kindred cloak
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has anyone experienced there faction rep points are completely changed after maintenance

storm hornet
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@delicate sentinel <@&509691205798592532> The latest release added a nice feature where when purchasing with tokens/etc, if an error occurs -- now we get to see our loot! šŸ‘

Great change, thanks guys! 😃

Edit: Previously it was broken, so it looked like we had just lost our tokens. Even though we're still seeing an error, at least we know we didn't lose our stuff. Good job guys.

ruby plume
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They fixed my ship gave me my rss back because my ship was stuck for 6 days they didn’t give me back my 50+ shields I used defending my station lol gave me 25 1 hr ship speed ups šŸ’ŖšŸ½šŸ’ŖšŸ½

keen bobcat
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@nova sierra should be able to get 6 per day in the faction store

tribal mason
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The offer now two days left, anyone can comment on this issue?

The april daily reward pack is on the store.... but why can't I buy the €20 and €50 packs???
It totally ridiculous you don't make all the packs available for all players... Give them a choise what they want to spent... in the end you lose money with this tactic. Please fix this
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532>

lavish sapphire
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Hello! Our galaxy/server is in need of conflict resolution support. Our alliance leaders don’t know who to approach to kick off a discussion. Could you please direct me to a point of contact? Thank you!

tiny fulcrum
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A Mining accord makes the game a lot more pleasant. Our rules are if there is raidible resources, you will get raided or if you sit on an empty 3* node.

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You still hit the uncommon 3* wall

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@delicate sentinel @potent cipher Thanks for adding the packs in the sale for the mid and low level spenders however I've already spent this month and next month budget trying out the disappointing $50 pack which barely enabled me to tier up the Kumari 1 time due to the measly uncommon amount.

I'm another person that will not spend another cent in this game until the economy and refinery rates are fixed, properly.

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With regards to the new faction, the new missions are a welcome change and added an interesting angle.

green creek
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But players must pay to build the new ship... Which is needed to access to the following missions 😠

tiny fulcrum
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You get extra blueprints in the Faction store, 6 a day, so you will be able to build it in 4 days time

abstract basalt
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Enjoy the new expansion šŸ‘ŒšŸ¼

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Stuck ships game clunky n shit

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Enjoy

tiny fulcrum
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Well, the good news is now that the new faction has been added, the devs will have time to work on fixing bugs, the refinery and shop?

wheat oak
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@kindred cloak yes my fed dropped 100k and kling jumped maybe 200k. due to a mission they auto-completed I think

tiny fulcrum
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@wheat oak At least they didn't autocomplete "Beneath the ice" mission and short you 4,000,000 Dilithium

wheat oak
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or the particle rifles at 20M dili

tiny fulcrum
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lol, 20mill? so 10x Ultra ship packs for $100 each, just to give it all away

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at least you'll have 840 uncommon ore to tier up a kumari 1 time, except you would have given away all your dilitium away, so you'll be exactly where you were expect have spent $1000

wheat oak
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the combat training missions give tens of Millions dilithium at higher lvl (ops and npcs)

tiny fulcrum
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ahh, at what level?

burnt summit
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30s

wheat oak
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I'm up to rookie 38, 29 ops

tiny fulcrum
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I'm ops 24, rookie 28, haven't done those mission cause I still have loads of dil saved up waiting for 3* uncommon.

wicked jetty
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yep, its safer to bank the dil there than in your station

zealous dew
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was doing the same but the maintenance bug finished the boss for me...

steep bronze
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now if only the checkmark sign would not be so visable in the main UI to finish a quest. Accidently handed in combat training 29 yesterday =/ sitting again on 700k dil or so now

green creek
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@tiny fulcrum yes you can claim the first 6 plans but fot the 6 next you must be over +500 at the Federation faction...

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So unless you paid or you are of the Federation, you can't build the ship

half saffron
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I maxed my repair research out, but after the maintnance it hasn't an effect anymore. @delicate sentinel

nova sierra
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I've 2 hostile captains,one in Kepler and the other in eisenhorn..

wheat oak
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@steep bronze same here. maintenance completed lvl 37 boss and now he's cloned himself 😬

steep bronze
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ah yeah i got those too lol

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i guess only good from it was i now had some spare officer exp to finish triple event just

pale sand
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What's wrong with the repair time? The added repair time sucks...

nova sierra
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@green creek it s a bug. Just check when timer runs out, you should be avle to get thƩ next 6 bp

ornate timber
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@delicate sentinel is it a violation of the TOS if an alliance is purposefully killing every ship that enters the new augment space?

green creek
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Ok, thank you @nova sierra

inner plaza
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@ornate timber you might wanna read the TOS yourself

ornate timber
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@inner plaza I have, but I want to confirm that my interpretation of them is the same as what scopely's is

inner plaza
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so what point in there would prevent them from killing ships?

covert bay
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it's just a dick move

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thank god my server is relatively quiet and civil, I would have stopped playing long ago in some of the servers I see described here šŸ˜„

wheat oak
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@inner plaza Fine line between strategic hindering of closely-competing alliance during an event, say, and downright preventing anyone from playing part of the game at all.

inner plaza
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i have no idea what you are talking about when saying "preventing anyone from playing part of the game at all" šŸ˜„

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next time my ship gets killed, i should contact support and try that out, sounds funny

wheat oak
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Read more carefully. I said playing PART of the game. Blocking access to everyone, despite it giving no serious advantage against smaller alliances, COULD be considered to fall foul of ToS.
I also said, or maybe just implied, that hinderance to gain an advantage is normal. Killing ships included.

inner plaza
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so which term could be violated then?

wheat oak
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Arguably (and I expect you will šŸ˜‰ ):
"Engage in acts or attempts to abuse, threaten, harm, harass or advocate or incite harassment and/or violence towards another person, group,"

inner plaza
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arguably yes haha

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actually no, not really arguable šŸ˜„

wheat oak
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All depends if you consider the "person, group" as players or physical people

inner plaza
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just lay down your weapons and surrender to the fact that playing the game can in no way violate the terms

wheat oak
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Nah you know I don't mean that

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My alt f2p base has been zeroed 3 times and I didn't feel the need to whine about, despite it being the same bunch every time šŸ˜„

inner plaza
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no you wasnt the one whining hehe but you were trying to make a point that playing the game a certain way could be against some terms

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my alliance could cut of our enemies completely from any g3 ore lets say because we have superior strength. that would cut them off completely from parts of the game

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and there would be nothing wrong with that

wheat oak
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Seen it happen in other games. An "killing arena" one where some guys got banned for sitting next to the drop point and killing everyone who arrived before they could activate

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It's the systematic and enduring nature that COULD represent harassement, not just doing it to be dicks for a while

inner plaza
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can't say much about that one but i'm 100% sure there is no issue at all with preventing your enemies from questing by killing their ships

wheat oak
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no I suppose not

covert bay
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In this case that would not be a brilliant idea though, since it seems that the best it could do is prevent other players to do a bunch of quests, and mine for some unimportant stuff that can only be redeemed in officers shards. Officers that are themselves not really that appealing

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At best you would only make some players quit, and at worst unite all the server against you. So I don't really see the point, except to brag or grief

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In the end, not a very Star trek spirit kind of thing, but what is in this game šŸ˜„

smoky marsh
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faction events need to scale with your highest ships power level. This having to kill lvl 29s for the daily when my Ship is only a lvl22 100k ship is ridiculous. I can't do that part of the daily.

zealous dew
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current state of the game :

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Warehouses do Not provide the room for res needed to upgrade buildings

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Vaults keeps everyone elses tiny amount of Res safe

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only way to progress is to wait for events, mine parasteel (hah right), or get lucky and find an unshielded base with parasteel thats raidable

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or pay 2 progress

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so thats 4-5 days mining parasteel per building past op24

mystic prawn
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Making the new zone have ships that attack you none stop after getting pawn is just bad I cant even mine with out getting attacked especially when you have to mine to buy stuff from the faction

broken scarab
nova sierra
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No it is not

tiny fulcrum
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Scopely understand the meaning of "fair" as well as the Borg do.

nova sierra
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Their codesrs work for the irs

upbeat nova
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We under stand fair.. you have RSS, we assimilate you.. take your RSS.

nova sierra
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Methinks the Borg would be disgusted with the rewards

tiny fulcrum
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It's not the engineers, it's the suits we can blame. Engineers just write the code according to what they're told.

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The developers full well know we're being milked

nova sierra
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And assume that more people will come along and play

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500k dilithium is pocket change once you advance a bit in combat training mission...after around lvl30+ you will be desperate to get rid of it because of the target it paints on your station

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Thats lvl30+ missions not player level btw...eaily done with a 180k+ kumari

tiny fulcrum
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Exactly why I haven't done them yet

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Probably should because now scopely are aware of the issue they will reduce the rewards from those missions šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‹

nova sierra
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I'd be happy if they cut the dilithium by 90% converted that to equivalent value tritanium and awarded that instead tbh...it's bloody expensive at lvl33+ lol (I'm at ct 35 now)

obtuse lake
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i'd be happy if the client didnt crash every 2-5min on IOS

pallid peak
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In case you dont know which you probably dont. It is an actual faction status you implemented and I cant even type it in alliance chat good job šŸ‘šŸæ

unique glen
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I passed on that message some hours ago @pallid peak

pallid peak
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Thanks Moo! šŸ’ŖšŸæ

muted frost
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Drecks Bugs!!!!

plain gull
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Is there a customer service representative that I can talk to you over the phone from scopely

pallid peak
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1-800-they-dont-care

plain gull
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Don't nobody answers that phone number

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Is there anybody from scopely on discord

pallid peak
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šŸ˜‚ šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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@delicate sentinel is a dev

plain gull
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Yeah he's in and out and I can barely get 30 seconds with him

pallid peak
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Correction community manager

plain gull
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Makes more sense

pallid peak
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Some dudes name is game designer Keesner

plain gull
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Is he really the game design or is that just like something he named himself

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Is it that works I'm going to do CEO neelix

wicked jetty
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He's a game designer

plain gull
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@nova sierra do you know any customer service numbers or persons I can talk to

surreal condor
plain gull
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I appreciate the documentation but I've tried all those routes

surreal condor
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No number that I know of, but there are the options.

plain gull
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I tried everything listed there and I've tried other the other avenues

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Is it okay that they just ignore me and don't respond and

tiny fulcrum
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depends what you're asking I guess

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I've always found the in game support to work... eventually

plain gull
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tell me explain it this way if you're going to spend hundreds of dollars with the company don't you think that there should be some avenue to resolve grievance

cinder garden
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Uh that compensation chest for repair costs increase would be nice per day till it's fixed - as a one off it doesn't really cover it!

plain gull
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In the game support has been okay until you have a reasonable question and you get a canned response and then no response

tiny fulcrum
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oh yeah, those canned responses are the best

plain gull
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I think there should be a warning spend your money at your own risk

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Because we don't care if you have a problem

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And we don't care if you're satisfied or not

tiny fulcrum
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My favourite one is "It's working as intended"

plain gull
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Yeah you got to love that turn a bug into a feature

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They don't even have an address listed online

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It has like all the makings of a scam

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I tried to apply for a job just so I could talk to somebody from scopely

azure bronze
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So are we going to be compensated for these repairs we’re having to make? The increased costs and speed ups?

tiny fulcrum
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That's going a bit far, unless you actually wanted to work there

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lol

plain gull
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And they don't respond to that drop us a line on the contact page cuz I dropped more than once in the last month no response

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They couldn't afford me to work there

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Overqualified for that cuz any position there

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I contacted a couple of news places see if I can get the news to look them up and find them

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I'm not going away until people are warned that they spend the money at their own risk

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if you're having a good time and you don't mind that stuff if they pull fine great but you should be warned before you start spending money that they don't want to talk

tiny fulcrum
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You're beating a dead horse I'm affraid... from their website:
"Scopely is home to a proprietary technology platform that creates personalized user experiences and effectively monetizes free-to-play games at scale."

plain gull
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And they will actively ignore you

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I feel like if I get enough news to pay attention to me I'll get some traction eventually maybe

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you should see some of the responses to my emails it's like they don't even read them I could write better AI programs to respond then what I assume is a human

tiny fulcrum
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If anyone is still downloading the game after all the scathing reviews on every single platform I'd be surprized

plain gull
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I would be too I mean I wrote a review and it was very honest the game is amazing the idea is awesome but this company is way over wet in way over their head

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And the worst part about it is that just ignore you

tiny fulcrum
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Maybe they know that and that's why they're hiring a new Director of Product, Growth

plain gull
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I noticed that there were a number of positions opened

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Was it VIP director or something

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Has anyone played any of their other games

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I looked at online banking you haven't looked interesting

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That was jacked up its the mic

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None of their other games look interesting is what it was supposed to say

tiny fulcrum
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I've found one, it's OK and a couple of the Fleet Command players randomly showed up round the same time as me

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Mostly the same elements

plain gull
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A game that they make

tiny fulcrum
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oh... of their games

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no, never again

plain gull
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So you stopped playing fleet command

tiny fulcrum
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I open the game, move a miner or two, collect some RSS and close it

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then come here and moan at scopely

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The requests have been super simple but totally ignored:
Make the packs affordable and have a decent amount of uncommon
Increase refinery drop rate for uncommon RSS
decrease the player attack range so a level 32 can't attack a level 22
Stop Warp(reverse warp is what was offered)

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I think Armada's are a unicorn

ivory ember
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yup, and one of my quests was ā€œaccidentally completedā€ by the update.. @delicate sentinel .. I’m trying to determine impact

pallid peak
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If they dont want to respond to anything we are saying it would be nice if they would at least have the courtesy to go invisible

tiny fulcrum
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The mod's are unpaid volunteers that relay our grievances... and then get ignored by Scopely

plain gull
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I know right I 32 versus a 22

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Who's going to win that one

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Oh so there are moderators who relay our grievances

pallid peak
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Not complaining about mods lol šŸ˜‚ they do more than they should have to

plain gull
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oh don't get me wrong I'm not either I'm not complaining about moderators I'm just trying to figure out every avenue for filing a grievance

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That way when I go to get the new story published I'll have all the information

pallid peak
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There is another category above mod... šŸ™„

tiny fulcrum
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Yeah, still only managing the community though, he probably also get's ignored by Scopely

pallid peak
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Looks like the person has a headache

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Still collects a paycheck

plain gull
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You don't get me wrong I don't have a problem with panic either

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I think he's probably doing the best you can

tiny fulcrum
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I hope they're paying him a lot

plain gull
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I just think the people should be warned we may spend money that you cannot file a grievance and these companies will not talk to you

tiny fulcrum
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I agree

plain gull
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I doubt it

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I'll contact you Google and they're supposed to contact me back we'll see

pallid peak
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I would personally choose not to work for a company like that šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

plain gull
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I've quit company just like that

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I think what happens is they start out with genuine care and they get in over their head and did not care melts away from frustration and everything else and then it just ignoring people after

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Isn't that how American greed story start

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Next on American greed scopely

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You think they read these forums

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There's a ton of content I don't know if I could keep up

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by the time you know that you don't have customer service that they don't care about you you're so far into the money that it's hard to even quit

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It's like cigarettes for gamers

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I figure they'll eventually boot me off this server

tiny fulcrum
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They better get their act together because they're riding on the Star Trek brand here as well

plain gull
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I wondered about that like if they bring that much negative attention to Star trek will Star trek drop them

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And then like you sink because Star trek is on it that it's legit

tiny fulcrum
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That would depend on the community.

halcyon shard
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The rewards we get for achievements should be rewards, not 2* parts and rss that are no use because you power means you're only using 3* parts and rss.

tiny fulcrum
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you know that answer... ignore it

plain gull
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Probably

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@halcyon shard dude what does that mean

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The star of the part is related directly to the level which is related fairly directly to what ships you're running

tiny fulcrum
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It's another one of the common complaints. No one past like level 23 need 2* anything really (except maybe some stuff for the Envoy but that goes away at 28)

plain gull
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Besides dude they don't read this crap

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You're wasting your time

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The envoy goes away at 26

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Throughout horizon outshines the envoy in every way

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You need it to envoys to do something like raid a base The horizon does it itself

tiny fulcrum
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yeah but you still have to use the envoys in the mining events

plain gull
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I never did the horizon mine so fast that I never needed to use on one

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But you're probably right

tiny fulcrum
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but I know the envoy will become like the fortunate eventually

plain gull
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Basically

tiny fulcrum
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I can already build an extra 5 or something silly like that

plain gull
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When you hit 26 it does

tiny fulcrum
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and I have the 20k+ 2* refined crystal to upgrade them as well

plain gull
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When I left the game I had spent like 2k

halcyon shard
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@plain gull the 10 min chests and so on, giving rss and parts we don't because are power means we don't use 2* anything. They're suppose to be rewards but if it's useless it's not a reward.

plain gull
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Yeah pretty much everything in the 10-minute chest is that trash

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It does sometimes pool good stuff it just kind of depends

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It seemed to get better as I leveled that they got more

tiny fulcrum
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Yeah, I stopped spending when I hit about $100, could see the game wasn't finished and the only way they could hold players back was the ridiculous 3* limits and then at some point it just became a money grab.

plain gull
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All right later Bros I'm going to come back in her ass scopely another time

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So true

tiny fulcrum
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Cheers dude, good luck.

halcyon shard
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Later buddy

wispy shuttle
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Dont know if anyone else has the same issue but apparently everyone's store is different;
my store facts and figures.
total items available= 24
Ā£5.29 items = 1
Ā£18.49 items= 3
Ā£42.99 items= 6
Ā£92.99 items = 14

Not really tempted to spend with that breakdown.

umbral ermine
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Please add a way to know how many points a building or research will give @delicate sentinel Like it would be easier to know what buildings or research we need to focus on to complete research/building events.

tiny fulcrum
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@wispy shuttle Mines about the same like one peace shield pack, then two master packs and the rest the ultra packs

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Some people still have access to the master daily reward pack

nova sierra
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I've got the 49$ ones.. USD,3 or so..ain't bought alot

torn karma
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<@&509691205798592532> @delicate sentinel the repair speed ups and titanium/latinum where a great way to help cushion the mistake of not applying our research to

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Upgrades... some of us spent large amounts of rss to max them research upgrades and have already run out of repair speedups please what day will this be fixed

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Our repair research does not register

vernal ore
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Still not enough.. Running low on repair speed ups

nova sierra
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Not going to lie

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I parked my ships pretty much

dry gale
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Well, I do not want to complain, but nearly 30 minutes of warp time seems a bit harsh. And that is into the new Aug system

nova sierra
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Ye i had to move my base. But it feels like its targeted ar the 18-24 level players.

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@wispy shuttle the more you spend.... the more your encouraged to spend. It has been complsined about far too often. People on average seem to complain the want to spend only at the 19.99 price point. They will never change this, even though it would generate more income because smaller payments = more spend = faster divide in grind vs ptw

supple oyster
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We really need more grade 3 mines. Mines are always occupied when I get up in morning to try to get mine so it makes it hard for those who work to get their daily done particularly the faction on when you have ended up with his rep. I know you can flip some but i need crystal and it takes too long to mine out a dilithium mine

nova sierra
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Bounty Hunters
While in Augment space you will encounter Bounty Hunters. The more friendly you are with the Augment faction, the more aggressive the bounty hunters will chase after you, so beware!

Really ????? ahah the soul of Picard will bite your foot while you will sleeping.

whole slate
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Either more mines or more courteous people

nova sierra
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yeaaaa more mining nodes, and recipes, also some spell and crafts please

whole slate
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Also, recycling old unused ships. I don't need a phindra or an Orion Corvette, so why are they just taking up space in my hangar?

tiny fulcrum
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In another very similar game, you can sell your old ships and captains

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in this game you just get a lucky packets of officers you don't really want.

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There are a lot of things that could be done, however the most pressing thing that's causing so many people to drop right now is the uncommon 3* wall and the over priced packs

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I spend more time on here moaning about that because there is NOTHING to do in game anymore and I will not spend another cent until the issue is fixed.

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Otherwise I would have bought the Botany Bay pack and one of the officer packs, if they were worth the money

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$20 for half a ship and some 2* common... lol

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not even worth $5 to me

eternal tide
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So if your not spending any money to finish acquiring Bottany Bay shards you can’t participate in the 3 new events?

wheat oak
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Not for 2 days (to get the free bps) @eternal tide . Still leaves 2 days or so

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But if you didn't already get 2x6, ...

eternal tide
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@wheat oak I did all missions and collected all daily shards. I’m at 42, not counting today’s.

wheat oak
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Oops yep so 3 days not 2. That leaves a day to finish solo event - rather steep

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Depending on what time you pick up the bps

tiny fulcrum
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I pick up the BP's and about 10pm my time

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so guess who's not finishing

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šŸ‘ˆ this guy

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It's a choice I've made to no longer financially support until I get my monies worth and if it becomes too painful, which it almost is already, I'll cut my loses and carry on playing the other game I found in the meanwhile.

eternal tide
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@tiny fulcrum I feel the same way. Im not enjoying the game as much as before.

prisma fog
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The prices for Steam Games doesn't seem so bad anymore! Lol

nova sierra
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Hello Scopely,
I am truly a dedicated player. I play every day more then 6 hours ( intervals).I am one of the first nerds back from the eighties. I played massa’s games on different platforms.( PS4, Nitendo, Microsoft, IOS, Android). Never In my live I had to take so much print screens in a game ( around 1500) about bugs. Never in my live I send so much mails about a game. ( around 120). Never In my live In was so badly threated by support. Never In my live I spent so much money ( 1000 euro). Never In my live I loved a game like that. Never In my live needed so much to proof I was correct about bugs. DO NOT FIX THE GAME FOR ME , FIX IT FOR ALL OTHERS PLAYERS!

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Could loading times on player base information be improved? It's infuriating having to wait for that circle to dissapear before being able to see the stats of a base in system.

gleaming oriole
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@tiny fulcrum what similar game

nova sierra
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Why do prices in the augment faction store get worse as your reputation increases? The ROI on reputation and recruit packs gets worse. Typically prices get better as your reputation increases with a faction. @delicate sentinel

tribal mason
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@delicate sentinel

The offer now one day left, anyone can comment on this issue?

This is the 3rd repost, but no comment and no fix.

The april daily reward pack is on the store.... but why can't I buy the €20 and €50 packs???
It totally ridiculous you don't make all the packs available for all players... Give them a choise what they want to spent... in the end you lose money with this tactic. Please fix this
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532>

idle fable
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It depends on packs you purchased before. Elite one is worth it compared to other packs.

nova sierra
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ā˜

tribal mason
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@idle fable

Could be, but scopely should not determin how much I should spent... give me a choice... I dont want to spent €105 on a pack...

They cheat themself out of money with this tactic... because lots of ppl refuse to spent as much

nova sierra
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Same as when you buy the small 5€ packs they eventually go away and only bigger packs can be obtained

tribal mason
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Yes same thing

nova sierra
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Comparatively speaking the 100€ pack is the best value pack in the store...period.

tribal mason
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Could be, but it's a hell of a lot of money

nova sierra
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I get that players with budgets might not want to or can spend that much but if yo3are seeing that pack you already did at least once...

tribal mason
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But the point is... give me the choise, don't decide for me

versed hearth
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this game stolen my 20 dollars i paid for a jellyfish it’s still impossible to get if you pay for it

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scam game! all players should be ashamed of themselves they are helping a scam rob people

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this is why i’m only playing to blow up miners because you can rob me but i will fight back by killing miners until the day this game is shut down

pale sand
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Wow you really have a fulfilling life

versed hearth
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blowing up miners is more fun than the game anyway it’s ok

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i put a lot of money into ios games but only ones who actually give you the thing you paid for and aren’t out to rob their own players

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there are many games out there where they appreciate their players, listen to them, and not outright try to rob them

pulsar isle
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Does this Scotty bot still exist. Is anyone at scopely doing anything about it? I am sick off hunting bases to raid to then find another whole alliance as somehow managed to find this base as if by magic

unique glen
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@versed hearth ticket it with support. They should fix it.

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@pulsar isle Scotty bot has been shut down šŸŽ‰

pulsar isle
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šŸ˜‚ cool so I can hopefully raid in about more peace

inner plaza
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šŸŽ‰

versed hearth
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the way they scammed me is designed into the game on purpose i’m not sure if a support ticket can help

spring urchin
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I have some general feedback, my shield drops 12 hours early and I open a support ticket. I get back we know it’s a bug but we aren’t going to return the missing resources cause we suck at customer service. I have been in IT and software development for 28 years, this is the crappiest support and software I have seen since windows 95.

pseudo dagger
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So the repair thing is not permanent, that's like test driving a Lamborghini and them saying Just keep it for a few weeks then take it away.. just make it permanent it's already have a great positive effect on moral.

fickle oasis
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@delicate sentinel ty for the event repair boost! Really nice while you’re sorting out code and stuff I don’t understand 😊

valid tulip
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The repair event is much appreciated, however I would really like to understand how it can be unintended to have a repair time increase when you remove incorrectly applied repair speed reductions šŸ¤”

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I have rarely seen a store wonder why prices have increased when a sale is over

bold aurora
tiny fulcrum
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They're pissing on everyone, don't feel alone.

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I've been waiting 27 hours for 2x 3* ore

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If I didn't empty a month savings of officer points on useless officers, I would still be waiting on 8 uncommon ore

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just fix the refinery drops already

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Never thought I would say it but can't wait fo EA to release the new game.

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(and yes, I'll be here everyday until the 3* wall is fixed)

wicked jetty
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@valid tulip fixing the bugs caused repair speeds to go to their actual intended values. Those values were unreasonable after that not being the case for 6 months. The development team did not intend to make the game feel worse for players by fixing the bug, so they will rebalance repair times across all ships and teirs, in the mean time they have applied a massive repair speed buff globally

thick ferry
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IF two alliances decided to work closer together would there not be a way to show this in game by means of options to attack being turned off separate in game double alliance chats and a unique colour for in game counters

tiny fulcrum
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Merge alliances is your only option

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but it would be nice, I agree scottish

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If you ask support though it would probably be along the lines of "it's working as intended" or "You need to upgrade you alliance to accept more players"

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Give it a try and let me know which answer you get 🤣

whole sonnet
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2x near 70k ships can't take this stupid hostile ship? You're kidding me? These mission hostiles, are ridiculous!!

No hull damage to enemy ship? This gotta be a bug @delicate sentinel

wicked jetty
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Try your jelly instead of the kehra, the hostile has triangle advantage over your kehra

versed hearth
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You got your butt kicked huhuhuh huhuhuhuhuh