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@wispy shuttle don't worry, they know š
@delicate sentinel once again I have to ask when are we going to get something to trade blue prints and 2* RSS for useful items. I'm lvl 28 and still recieving 2* RSS in the 6hr daily events and bps filling up my boxes instead of speed ups or ship parts I actually need. This is getting ridiculous sir.
Improve odds for dropping of rare 3s crystals. I long to get just one to upgrade my NS. Been weeks!!
All commons from the level 33 refinery this round! Good job guys! 0 velocity is clearly why people pay.
Let me know when you guys break down and finally admit you need a math tutor. Iāll happily fund that for you before financially supporting this game any further.
Still not getting auto shields
First time Ives been attacked in weeks hit me 30 seconds apart and no shield
I am not getting credit for completing buildings towards station events. Submitted ticket yesterday, still nothing. Wasted speed ups to try to earn rewards for station events...
was it a defense turret @vestal smelt ?
Last one was... not sure what the earlier one was. Coulda been, been upgrading defenses
yea defense turrets don't count for... reasons... everything else should
@delicate sentinel systems past lvl 35 virtually have no grade 3 to mine and the systems 35 and under are too overcrowded
I think for the dev team while they want to monitize their investment the L18 to L19 transition leaves players with a WTF have I been doing with my time moment. I was fully prepared to rock out a $25 apple card but now I feel like I may slow my roll in the game instead. I am sitting at 74/75 cards for that jelly thing and watching other players smoke miners while I fully explored the map. It hit a wall that the value to entertainment correlation was lost.
I appreciate the work that had been done but it was a very awkward transition to a multi day engagement to an every other day if not longer experience.
2 days ago i wrote a ticket. 24h later i got an answer to upload aditional screenshots. Again 24h later the ticked was deleted without any further information or refund or whatever... lol?
and that is why you take screenshots of the bugs, the conversation between you and support and store it, always
Post patch the game went from ok to buggy af. What the hell
@delicate sentinel please can we somehow stop low level players going into faction space and mining resource they donāt need, the number of mines has dropped and we have lvl9 players somehow mining 3* res in Voss at the moment - how do they even get there? None of us can clear them and it holds back higher players
Put Scotty on the bridge and they can get there. They also have faction points to do.
you get faction missions as soon as your rep is positive with a faction +500, maybe a low lvl restriction. Im 14 and i got faction missions
you can have faction missions whenever @glass horizon
@potent cipher the game is glitching like mad!! š” stuttering along freezing and this event is the worst I have ever seen
THIS EVENT IS SHOCKING!!! So not worth the pity full rewards
@glass horizon I've been doing them for a long time so don't think it's level 17. They could have started to do their faction rep and are doing their daily missions and building it up while still a low level. You might have started them at level 17 but I have people in my Alliance who are levels 12 and 14 and they are doing the mining daily ones
We saw some lag issues. We have added a fix to that. Can you please let me know if you're getting any lag atm and on which region are you on
@delicate sentinel lag seem to be increased in eu, ios user. After latest client update all was fine. But since yesterday its as bad as ever
Dud event
@delicate sentinel the lag issues are mostly in system view
@delicate sentinel there seems to be some lag after you take out a lv22 klingon to when it awards the points.
What the hell is going on with this effin game?!!! Lag lag bug and glitches amateur night at scopely and imagine Iāve spent more on this that with Rockstar Games for a console game š®
Imagine Rockstar Games trying to get away with this pathetic buggy game
The customer service is shocking
Bunch of keyboard warriors who canāt help wonāt help
Look at the packs and how out of balance they are
Someone at Scopely needs firing
Still cant load, tried everything but reinstalling the game... @solemn coral @delicate sentinel
Is there a plan in effect to repair Romulan officers with Burn skill and effects to be repaired.?
Dead mines are starting to come back.
@delicate sentinel I've spent two days mining 3* raw ore, converted 24k and got zero uncommon...how am I meant to upgrade my ships and base? Even the £96 pack doesn't contain enough uncommon ore.
@solemn coral
2 whole days eh! Man, have you got a surprise in store when u see the costs of higher tier stuff
Lol no joke.
A THOUGHT:
Imagine trying to play your game, somebody that is in an alliance comes by and blasts you dirty multiple times and their alliance offers 200 members + strong and the person throws that weight around.
Yeah that's fun, so they quit. Yeah that makes this game better. Or they speak up and you all decide to destroy their alliance and a few quit. That makes it better too. I've seen this happen, I've talked to people that have quit. This isn't crying, this is fact.
Those who got out a month ago I envy them.
Scopely: Please sell the game to developers who know what they are doing. Clearly you do not. This is a good game that is spoiled by financial motivation. Do what is right by your players, just once.
@delicate sentinel <@&509691205798592532> these new bosses are 2-3X harder than the prev ones. You need to have 400k ships to even dent them. That screwed out like 3/4 of our server from participating
The boss systems are virtually dead on my server lol
Does anyone have a maxed out Mayflower so that I could see its stats?
@delicate sentinel there should be a pause option or freeze option in the game because there are many players that be frightend to loose all ressources, when they're off to long. More payers give up the game than freeplayers because it grabs to much reaching the goals and it takes to much time being in game and buying things to secure what played for. The shields are not enough because the useful option-7 days shield- isn't easy recieve and buyers give up to pay for it. The game become for many stressful -selfmade, sure, but everyone want to reach goal or win by what the system establishs and it starts to be no Fun, no game for many people. So please think about a pause option or and easier recieveable weekshield.
24hr chest should have better rewards in it. You wait a while day for it and get 50 dil and 200 ship xp. I can get that in a 10 minute chest. Same with the 4hr chest 100 parasteel. I understand the small amounts in the 10 minute chests but the bigger 2 should give out better rewards for the time you have to wait for them.
Hi just a guess. Think about fraction daily balance in enemy task a jump from 25 to 28 in the 10 enemy easy daily is rough jump especially when u regard the higher power fraction enemyās got compared to pirats
@delicate sentinel
- revamp the gift boxes, take a good look into the loottables of each box and make them scale with ops level. Getting more lat from 10 min and 4h ones than from 24h is a big no-no
- store packs, remove 2* stuff from ultra packs and atleast double the uncommon quantity- and again, tie the content levels with ops level. At lvl24, when wanting to upgrade the kumari past t3, you need to spend 1 ultra pack for 1 upgrade? And later in the game more than 1 ultra pack per upgrade? This is what keeps many many people from spending in the game as they dont feel the it as a viable investment for their money. I havent seen a game this expensive in 20 years xcept for Star Citizen
3)remove par from ship kills, it is a useless cargo filler when it could have been filled with trit/dil which is way more needed.
4)Announce events a week before launching them. This will allow people who want to upgrade their ships use real money, allow for stockpiling on repair speedups/resources and get you better attendance on the events ( if they are not as broken as they have in the past)
- Being in a functioning alliance should mean something more than just the purple button, having higher lvl ppl taking down bases and social interaction. Higher alliance level should have a substantial increase in the progression of the game ( have it faster research/build, repair speed, resource generation). Implement it by alliance research, which everyone can take part of beside their regular upgrades and research. Do not allow speedups or lat to be used to fasten this.
6)missions, add them. and lots of them. And please with reasonable input/reward levels. Having a mission that you get from low systems, requiring to kill ships way out of your league and if by some miracle you can kill the ships, it requires you to travel to warp40+ systems for reward is a letdown to say atleast. Make the missions repeatable, again, tied to ops level. And no "give me 1.8M dil for 1M parsteel missions please, those are stupid).
- Ranked events need to be bracketed. A level 20 player mining against a level 28+ player only gets you to a point where people will not participate.Or a level 20 player needing to kill the same hostiles as a level 28+ player. Solo boss kill for example- takes 5 or 6 level 24+ players to get one boss down, only way for everyone to get on the board were to allow people get the killshot in turns, sometimes it worked, sometimes it did not. Waste of tons of speedups and resources
@potent cipher whatās up with the increased level of faction NPCs you have to kill on the dailies? Both dailies went up a level even though I didnāt. Care to explain?
@analog ravine did your faction rep go up a level?
heard the same problem on my server, ask here from mods for an explanation.
@mossy flint I assume @potent cipher is one?
yeah, didnt see ur mention of him at the first time š
@delicate sentinel could you please look into the issue I pointed out above?
There should be a way to gift other players items. I. E. I have a bunch of ship parts I no longer want, I have a bunch of blueprints I no longer want, I'm pretty sure it'll be the same with 2*resources soon... It'd be nice to be able to distribute them to the lower level guys in the alliance somehow. Or take a hit and say the amount goes down 50ā° if you gift, or is distributed like alliance rewards to everyone.
@analog ravine same here what the hell
well parts sharing should be able to send vie user menu. If the player is on same alliance.
@mossy flint Now it is goood that game is providing alliance missions. Sadly I am only level 24 or above 20 level in my alliance so our memebers aint that active and able to participate in anykind of alliance missions.
Most casual players are leaving before 20 level as it takes for ever to play to there. If someone goes past 20 he is starting to be more sirious of the playing.
The game has 50+ levels and after 30+ I think it is ridigolous amounts of resources and uncommon materials that it takes ages to upgrade or you use 400⬠per month to upgrade 4 items on your vessel
Since the game does not provide essential updates to protected cargo till example at 30 level you could have 1 million protected cargo and so one to be able to mine the needed materials
In any game the wait times should not be more than 3 days I think. Mining times should not take more than 3 days to get enough to do something, but no, this game allows stealing so you never going to mine enough in threee days...
lolwut?
I agree but only in part. The general RSS of the game is not really the issue. Itās refining rates vs required materials. At current refining rates it will take approximately 1.5 years to tier a ship. Or 700 USD. I am currently level 28 after over a month of mining and refining materials I face the question. Do I upgrade one of my ships shields or upgrade my research facility. Either way itās another month of grinding for the other What happens when the answer is neither and the player stops playing. My server has 100s if not 1000s of dead stations.
This week alone my alliance which (depending on the day) is either first or second on the server has lost 8 high level players to the unrealistic requirements of the game.
I am probably Not the first one to mention this but in the base, trit mines two and three both have slot number 14 and the 15 is missing...or is this wanted?š
My gameserver had mayor bugs harming progress, and alsmost no inflow.
Enemy space I understand the concept that there is fighters seeking me out to destroy me but they should not spawn on top of my ship 2 seconds after I come into the system. Has this been changed from the previous way they slowly stalked you?
There has been a change, not communicated but it used to be that only one revenge ship would spawn if you had two ships in the same enemy system. But today I had both warships being hunted by 4mil NPC's
Yea I noticed that while trying to aquire some crystal. Both ships spawned fighters
Yes they have spawned right next to me
If scoopley is going to disable the chance of instant officer in the elite pull, shouldnt they be making an announcement? @delicate sentinel @potent cipher @solemn coral @nova sierra @calm root @unique glen @nova sierra
@cosmic knoll I've seen this happen before (info button dropping off) I don't think it removes the instant unlock, at least it didn't last time. Will see if I can get official comment on it
What happened to my dailies can not do the faction part any more to high lv ships to kill was 27 / 28 could not do 28 at that time now 28/29. No way to finish now
Donāt know if this is the right channel for that, but guess the support is drunk or maybe all of the bugs just developed an AI and they invaded the support system.
Sorry, but I didnāt attack my base on my own!
Lmfao
They're bots, give them a break
tyvm @nova sierra
I know a lot of people want the Enterprise,but overall which is truly the better faction? Plus can you play with Enterprise in any other factions?
Game is poop, crashing every 10 mins losing our pms, loading screens slow-motion the game to the point it gets stuck and you have to restart the app happening every 5-10 mins. Everyone is having the same issues I brought this up over a week ago still no fix. Instead of spending time creating garbage events that are costing us more then we are gaining, spend the time fixing the current problems
I have been complaining about those issues @lapis wigeon for almost two weeks.
Got worse when they added the act of war event
Rant continues in events feedback lol @distant ivy
I have posted it in both over the weeks and they say they are fixing it but just keeps getting worse for me @lapis wigeon
Indeed, and these events are targeted for the big spenders, only guys even competing in the ranked act of war event are those who unlocked the early faction ships, who donāt need to suicide 12 ships to kill a boss. Spent 20 minutes to kill 1 boss dudes with intrepid knocks out 3 in one visit.
Yep the last three events minus mining have all been for big spenders. They have lost focus
You need 250 3* uncommon to upgrade and the refinery products 3 every fifth or sixth cycle. How long does it take to acquire 250.
you need 250 twice so thats 500 now how long does that take...... Wait you can buy it from the store at the most 105 3* per $99.99 pact. how many pacts do I need to buy. Oh wait again you still need the same material for buildings and researches so it may take a little more.
Maybe $600.00.... that is to move it up one teir.
We need another source for uncommon material other than store.
When you need more parts for upgrade you can trade lathium, if you need uncommon you are directed to the store where you just buy the needed quantity but the whole pact.
The pact provides you with more just 3* material but also with 2* material (which you have absolutely no use for) than you canāt buy the quantity you want but only a portion.
Is there anyone else getting fed up with this.
Who decides what is put in a pack obviously that person doesnāt know the game or does he/she.
Then the damn game crashes every fifth or sixth screen changes. If your ship is in hostile territory by the time you restart your ship is destoryed.
7,5 million trit for 11k officer xp? This mission is a joke. Missions are meant to give you something, not rip u off.
@nova sierra but it does give you something that huge sense of loss and despair
Just killing time here while my 5 min warp turns into 30 min thanks to scopely slow motion effects. š¬
So why do you keep making the game worse with every update... now shields are disappearing, battle logs are so glitchy that they barely ever read correct information, if they even registered at all
Are yāall trying to alienate those who havenāt ran from your shitshow of a game?
Itās getting harder and harder to enjoy any aspect of this game
@vital burrow Google policy is up to 48hrs after the purchase anything over that you have to go to the company and request it from them
@vital burrow what comment was deleted
The chat profanity filter needs to be reviewed. There are too many normal every day words that get blocked, and plenty of profane ones that don't. "Bite" was blocked, for instance. I can only imagine someone complained about "Bite me" but what about "Bite the bullet" or "Take a bite out of that..."
Bite sized goals
Yeah I hear you. Um is one that gets me a lot I'll pm a dude and say "um what?" And it come across as "**** what?"
Again,the refinery..no uncommon, since the mining event.
Queue is blocked
Id love someone to tell me how, when, where, why queue was ever considered a bad word šš
@delicate sentinel i don't know what the best way is to get this up to you, but we have a player on our server that is threatening swatting...
I can deal with players with attitudes and inappropriate chat stuff, but this could get someone killed...
Do you think we can maybe keep lvl 8 players out of 3* gas systems? There is absolutely no need for a lvl 8 player to be mining 3* gas.
Couldn't I argue the same about the level 18 next to them?
Faction rep. Never too early for those dailies. @void grove . how about keeping those lvl 20+ out of 2* rss systems? Theres absolutely no need for a lvl 20+ needing 2* rss anymore
the difference is people who should be in 3* space can remove the 18 from the node
I think it could potentially be better if there was a mechanism to remove a ship from a zeroed node without destroying them regardless of level, and I think if someone wants to prepare for future use of 3* rss, it shouldn't be discouraged.
Its only human nature to give a sht about things that only affect themselves. And care not about others. There should be an auto kick off a depleted node for sure
I mined about 100k of each 3* rss at level 9 for future use.
that seems like a massive waste of time since you can only use 3500 of each per day until level 22
and you will need to mine some anyway for your dailies
Tbh I was mining *3 as soon as I was aware and able, so like lvl 15 or so. Built up to 315k minimum in each so I could go 90 days without mining if I had to
I might stay at level 20 for a few months just to build up enough uncommon for prime shields and hulls. Also afraid of not being able to mine much at higher levels due to constantly hearing about miners being destroyed. I would rather just avoid that and mine while I can't be hit.
Yeah you might want to push up a few more levels if uncommon is your goal.
Sure, it's always better at higher levels, but my strategy will to be to try to max as many things as possible before being able to be hit by higher level opponents. If it takes half a year, so be it. I'm patient! š
plus you get the double refines at 22
I'm only level 10 now, and probably won't get there anyway for 6 months.
ah, definitely premature to discuss your 20 plans then š
Yeah, I'm taking the game VERY slowly lol.
By that time, maybe they'll have fixed all the infuriating issues that the mid-high 20 players face. fingers crossed
Funnily enough, with all the complaint about the recent event being too hard, I've found it to be way too easy at level 10. I just take my phindra and kill about ten level 14 hostiles in one go. Boom, already got the 25.2k points necessary for 6700 tokens.
honestly the event isnt hard in the low to mid 20s unless you've out leveled your ships
its really only the 28+ bracket that was unreasonable
Yeah I out leveled my ship so it's a bit rough, but still doable. The boss, not so much haha
@near lodgely where is the reward chest for Motherās Day???
Yeah my mum is crying rn. No reward, no lunch she said. No way im coming out of my basement.
That seems to be a standard thing about the 28+ bracket being absolutely impossible, last event was the same with 30+ bracket being easy again
My review of this game on Google Play:
Injusto, desbalanceado, bugs, e movido a dinheiro. Apresenta um cĆrculo vicioso de evolução no jogo e gasto crescente de dinheiro. Se nĆ£o gastar logo o dinheiro investido entĆ£o fica vulnerĆ”vel ao ataque dos mais fortes. E gasta-se dinheiro para manter sua Estação/Base. O jogo Ć© frustante e causa ansiedade.
Unfair, unbalanced, bugs, and money-driven. It presents a vicious circle of evolution in the game and increasing expenditure of money. If you do not spend the money invested then you are vulnerable to the attack of the strongest. And you spend money to keep your Station / Base. The game is frustrating and causes anxiety.
When will buying uncommon and rare ore/gas/crystal with Latinum become an option?
@cosmic knoll Iām lvl 20 and still need 2* materials for upgrades and ships
yea, like a low lvl player needs g3 for rep dailiy. just because something affects your game you complain, and expect everyone else to fall in line.
imo i welcome low levelers sitting on g3, teaching high levelers the pain they cause. high levels gtfo of low lvl systems and maybe the lowbies will gtfo of the high ones because they will be able to sit on nodes they 'can' use - oh wait .. you never thought of that did you?
When will it be finally possible to have a synchronized account between iOS and Android devices? Or a real desktop client? My neck pain is getting worse every day!
This game is really not living up to what was shown. People have spent thousands because this was a Star Trek game. As soon as you hit upper teens itās just a pvp. The problem is those higher level players have zero resources because it cost so much to just upgrade
Two hundred dollars just to get a base mayflower
Another two or three hundred to upgrade. Thatās $400-$500 to be able to play
And lord help you if you can only get one of the mayflower (or other ship pack) and the event goes away
Your basically stuck.
Your money estimate are unfortunately conservative. To get the mayflower last 500k which is the only way it is usable it will cost you $1500.... the kumari will cost you $2000, the borta and Saladin will be $5000 each.
That is assuming you are tiered up in your base... so add that money as well
Those prices are assuming fully upgraded off course
Or you can buy a jet sky and go on the water every weekend....
@frosty grotto they canāt. No way to get your real info
I wouldn't think so, but we've all seen the real life impacts if they could...
@frosty grotto thatās like people claiming they will get your IP address from the game and hack it lol
@frosty grotto if they could get your info, yes, Iāve seen it happen, but theyād have to hack the game, find your user ID, and then your apple/google ID then hack apple or google to get your address of your billing info
U Have a better chance of winning 100 million in the lottery.
Lol, I know you're right, and I'm not seriously worried about it. But I just thought it should be brought to the attention of the devs
@tough beacon wait till the rare ships tier 9 intrepid 600m trit and 200m dil upgrades per item not to mention the 3000-4000 uncommon g3
So one thing I like doing is quests. It breaks the monotony of the daily grind, I haven't done them in awhile but started today. I can obviously say I'm. Not interested in doing them anymore. It seems like all they do is ask for RSS .. RSs I really dont have to spare and the rewards that are not worth it. ... you guys get an F on this.. I would like the option to remove them out of my journal.
@frosty grotto but he should get banned for threatening it
That's what I think too
The last update ruined warp times. The constant screen freeze isn't fun either.
There's also still a large number of bases which cannot be attacked.
@delicate sentinel
Can a VIP system be implemented into the game where when a person spends a certain amount of $$$/buys a certain amount of Latinum, they go up a VIP level (VIP I, VIP II, VIP III....etc.). Also PLEASE implement a way for us to buy uncommon and rare materials with Latinum, like say after someone buys all of the Prime Research packs.
Ok,so like why the hell didn't the shards for officers have a confirmation?like all the other ones have it
@delicate sentinel
Can that be resolved before the end of the event?
11 for 7200 isn't worth it
@delicate sentinel why do we need ship blueprints in the drops except for surveys? Noone is going to waste rss to build another Kehra or Vakhlas or even the g2 ships. And they generate that annoying red number ob the ships icon. It made sense when the ships were not locked to shipyard levels - you could theoretically farm and build a ship like Kumari at i.e. 23. But now itās just useless.
Wouldn't surprise me at all
On amazon if game was on it we can get 10% discount from its app store
Look at $99.99 latnium sale you get less latnium then in any other $99.99 deal
Like wtf goanna buy that deal
Officer shards dropped drastically, now standard 5 deal is 3 4 3 4 3 for 12 officer shards only, use to be 25 before patch 20 shards 5 exp points shards
Game feedback - really good game, especially for Star Trek fans but without spending real money there is no hope for free to play players such as myself.
1⣠Building and researching takes too long without speedups
2⣠There are constant fights over mining spots where higher levelled players just come along and kill us weak ones to then have to wait for our ships to repair before sending them out in the hope it'll bring something back
3⣠Attacking NPC ships as part of the daily tasks is also a constant battle with higher powered players
4⣠My station was attacked by someone that clearly has more money than sense and it takes a day or so to repair etc only for them to no doubt come back and do it again
I've decided that even though I like the game, its just going to take too long to even remotely get strong enough to withstand an attack or win a mining spot etc without spending so game is uninstalled... live long and prosper
The iOS app is really getting to be annoying and it is really ruining the game. I'm at the point now where I have to restart before I do anything in hostile faction space or if I want to get into the event store. Are you guys going to fix it or what? This has been going on for far too long.
@nova sierra itās the cheat bot data mining the server. Not a Scopely tech issue. I believe theyāre working hard to get the cheat bot down.
@maiden kite Thanks for the heads up. I didn't even know that was a thing...
No worries, itās causing huge headaches atm
The broken node bug has returned. One node in the Willenia system is showing the infinite load circle.
Game has become unplayable on ipad since recent updates
iPhone 7 donāt log in...
@delicate sentinel looks look its falling apart
critical errors in redruitment dept
How long?
Sorry Scopely but the stolen Goods are a joke!!! Don't waste your alliance credits
The offer looked soo delicious and then you only get a few Standard recruit tokens
@GH0STCIVIC#6503 Because the game doesnāt favor free players because, after all they work for money, doesnāt make it unplayable. You still can advance. I guess the biggest problem for most people that play and do not pay any type of subscription or type of purchase within an app have expectations that do not make any sense. Why would anybody purchase a package if leveling up was just as easy?
Getting a critical error chest
do it, i got an epic kirk part from it ...
I got epic nero one shard
@delicate sentinel great game, great supp no it isnt, you know that most of the research stuff doesnt work but take all the money and res from the players and refund or fix nothing.... for example reseach to reduce ship upgrade costs dont work so you pay for resarch and must pay the same as all other for upgrades ..... if you spend nothing on research your ship will have 1 tier lvl +...... sad game
Also bases wich cant be atk by using a bug / glitch ..... yea support know but do also nothing.... since when bug using is ok ?
and what can they do. They wait devs to fix the bug
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they can tell us that it is not working so nobody needs to spend useless material on that
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they can refund the wasted materials, all upgrades wich were done after resach costs too much and a lot matetial is wasted
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if people using bugs/glitches and they know it, they get a bann in every game but here no one care ..... all the players relocate their bases to the buggy planets as they know they are safe there...
I cannot afford any of the new chests or rss.
It would be wonderful if blueprints were offered for sale. My small ships are maxed out and I canāt find blueprints to build bigger ships. I am tired of getting beat up by the Whales in the game.
some of my alliance is able to buy NS blueprints in the event store, but i don't have that option. Is it based on level?
Yes it is
thanks!
Yeah no problem not very helpful since we dont have any of the specific details but Scopely is not forthcoming with anything
at least helpful to know i shouldn't waste any time trying to figure out how to get them š
Am i nuts or did the cost of schematics change in the faction stores? I swear mine was at 100 yesterday
@delicate sentinel is there any reason a purchased pack including D3 bp's would NOT credit me with those bp's? I got all other items
Anyone else getting this:
#AprilFools
@delicate sentinel could you please advise, why do I have to argue with the CS every time in every case? They in the end always confirm they were wrong. Iāve spent 3+k which I believe is rather big amount compared to your arpu level, and everytime I have to feel like shit for being right and them trying to prove something they dont have a clue of? Whats the point? Whose order is this?
Iām factioned with Roms so I get buy Bp for Legionary but I want to buy Bp for D3 why is this not possible when am being offered upgrade packs for Legionary, D3 and Mayflower
In support of a cancer patient/player in the hospital fighting tonight/morning, we all came together around his base, 4hrs and counting!
That is an awesome display of solidarity. Hope everything goes well for the player.
This is an awesome show of support!
???????
Further to the recent message about scottyās workshop, weāve noticed evidence of this hack going on. Whatās the best way to report this?
Gather as much evidence as possible and submit a support ticket with the info.
@bold mirage, I have 3 of each 2*(except envoy, only 2 so far) ship and they are very useful, especially during kill events and for higher lvl bosses within the battle triangleš,,,,,,25 lvl19s,,,,10min, doneš
@bronze nimbus G2 ships - I can at least imagine how they could be useful, but G3 - good luck maxing out one
@delicate sentinel could you also clarify the idea behind the missions with the crazy amount of resources required to be donated? I'm talking primarily about Dil as mining it takes crazy long and missions now are asking anywhere from 400k to 4m. And I know there are those that require more
It's not like we don't have other places to put our hard earned resources?
Very good about the latest announcement i hope you are going to punish Scotty's workshop bot users. Why play if you have to cheat!
@bold mirage the idea is that you buy it...although if you don't rush through the combat training missions they can be an excellent dilithium reserve...the lvl32 mission to kill 10 hostiles gives over 2mil for example.
Well it has been a day and still nobody from Scopely has responded on Reddit either. Safe to say requesting info from them is pointless on any platform
Reddit might help, but a campaign to contact CBS, might work well also. CBS owns the franchise, and would not want it harmed by Scopely. Many are very disappointed by this game and the way Scopely manages it. Changes must come, or their revenues will drop.
So this is happening on our server in support of a player battling cancer
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@nova sierra I know about hostile rewards, but I have better things to spend them on as theyāre the only reloable source of dil in the game. And buying dil with real cash to sink them into quests with minimal rewards seems counterintuitive
Anyone else hate the vaults? The amount of RSS they can hold in them is really not worth the amount spent to upgrade them and then they are a requirement to be at level 24 for shipyard 24. I'm pulling my hair out waiting for these things.
I'm working on vaults too. It's long, painful, expensive and ultimately seems rather pointless, except as a necessary step towards the Kumari. I wish they protected more than they do, except then I'd curse when raiding š¤·
not if they doubled warehouse size, vault size and generation speed
just across the board
that would go a long way to fixing the 1* economy
Ship hangar can go do one as well tbh
@cinder garden you are so not wrong...
hey at least the hangar buffs hull hp by a little bit
Yeah.....any chance of getting this reduced???. You know how hard it is just to even mine a thousand dilithium??
dont mine it then š raid it like the game intends you too
@uneven aurora some missions just have to be achieved later in the game when your level allows it. For example I have about 8 mill dilithium atm which I have very little use for. So if I had that mission sitting there it would be extremely easy for me. I also have several missions waiting because my ship isnāt quite powerful enough yet. But Iām close, so Iāll cross those bridges when I can
Hostile hunting mission chain is also the best way Iāve found form stockpiling dilithium. After the mid 20ās dill becomes much less important in daily play. Iām pushing through to level 32 now and parasteel is where itās at for me. I ignored it for many months but now I am very steel hungry for my station builds. Itās probably fairly useless to you though
@delicate sentinel you guys dont understand power versus level. Stop making content based on level and base it on power. I saw how ridiculous this is. In this event I was 23 for majority of it, this morning I hit 24. My power is basically the same, but instead of striving to get 4mil for the event I now have to get 9 mil.. stop basing things off of the operations tower and focus on the level.
The power of the player that is
@maiden kite cheers for the advice :)
This is how games can die! The power of this guys ship exceeds every thing I have combined. No skill involved in game play just a bunch of cash spent on his side and not near as much on my side!
@delicate sentinel thx for showing everybody the Scotty bot. Now the my find us everywhere !! Great job. And BTW itās not a violation of TOS. Itās not a bug. Do u know what a bug is ? I canāt attack a single player on atteig System cause of this stupid godbug -.- take care of it first !
@delicate sentinel You are totally unprofessional regarding the earlier announcement on delaying the maintenance. You cannot announce a time and then just say we are checking and when we're ready we'll do it.
@delicate sentinel Either learn from the other games in the market to put protection on ships/bases one hour (let's say) post maintenance or announce always in advance specific maintenance time and duration and if you can't stick to it delay for another day!
@nova sierra And what if the maintance is delayed ? How this change anything? And why attack Panic, what to tell if he doesn't have information for new hours. If he say and then is late more you will attack him again!
@nova sierra We're in the middle of an event!!!! And I'm not attacking Panic. This is not personal. He's the interface to Scopely and should land this feedback where it's deserved.
I think it is not acceptable that it is informed only ādelay ā. Many put 4 hours shield and now of course over 1 hour has gone. If you start maintenance (3,5h) like now these people donāt have shields anymore. :/ @delicate sentinel
Putting a 4h shield on a expected 3,5h maintenance is stupid to say the least. You were given a 1 day shield- if that were to run out and the maintenance hadnt been done, then it would be time to whine about it
I agree its always possible some maintenance gets delayed due to issues....but then its better....to say oke issues are fixed...now maintenance will be planned again for next day....not just delay a few hours and then start it anyway though because a lot of people will be disadvantaged that way?
They gave a free 1 day shield, used that. I think they knew this could happen, otherwise they would have given 4 or max 8h shields.
It is an improvement, from bad to meh.... ok, but still not good though
MissChivasRegal, are you happy to spend 4m of your 8m dil stock on getting tk faction points?
Euh i got a 8hour shield?
You guys crying about shield length are funny. Why use a 4 hour when you can stop a shield whenever you like.. I barely spend and could shield for the next month solid, don't be daft.
Stop a shield...yes and then loose the remaining shield time!
Wish they'd let us stack shields..,and since maintenance is delayed, double rewards for the last day..
I hope they realise the window is too late for today and delay the whole thing 24h
Please don't do EU maintenance during EU peak play time (I assume the evening)
@delicate sentinel YOU SHOULD NOT proceed with maintenance today. We have used our shields (I used a 8 hour shield), and I will not start another because your timing is totally unreliable. Please scheduele a new date WITH A 24 HOUR NOTICE. Anything else will be totally unfair.
If they do maintenance now i won't be able to complete the elite event, can't play at work!
I e burnt through an 8 hour shield, I have another 4 hours in and will need to replace it in the next hour as I'm off the bed, need to organize releases better!
This game is becoming a joke...
Just put another 12 hour shield up. For the night
I would like to know when you are going to stop making fun of the world? 5 patches all stopped during deployment. No bugg corrected. I ask the community to stop buying packs while waiting for a real action.
After so many fuckups best feedback you can get is that you should fire all managers (I am trying not to blame devs).
You have overtaken all gaming companies for light years in that.
Devs need to make non-regression test ! Itās basic
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Sure lol
With postponing of the maintenance will the current event be extented ?
Unfunk the Kehra. It's been nerfed way too bad, costs a fortune to upgrade and is rapidly outstripped by other ships. How much bloody 3*unc Crystal? Come on guys
All the bugs really do get to me especially when you're working an event and they cause you to use way more rss then you should have to. Then CS tells you they can't help you get any of it back and that it's being worked on. One of my friends was working with Apple CS to get a refund and they told him wow you'd think with all the money you have spent they would want to help you out with these issues.
@delicate sentinel
what is the point in giving any one a peace shield when the shield can simply be brought down.
we have mebers who were home, not out mining even and under 8 hour shield just getting drained
the shields are fragged and broken
@delicate sentinel @potent cipher server switching? Now? Later? When?
Hi,@delicate sentinel @potent cipher
Hi, is there way to migrate an account from iOS to Android?
@delicate sentinel @potent cipher The last patch/update was supposed to address the game freezing issue. Yes, I donāt get the spinning circle anymore but for the game freezes and/or stutters MORE now than before. I am regularly having issues with 5-10 minutes of logging into the game and have to constantly restart.
I can Easily and directly link at LEAST 250k in Trit (very likely more) to these problem, as well as at least 75k-100k in Dil lost! All from not being able to react to situations like defending my ships and base.
That doesnāt even cover to the free chest rewards I MAY have lost because the freezing happens a lot upon trying to claim the rewards. When I restart I admit I donāt know for sure I havenāt received a reward but I usually have a Very good idea of my numbers on the most common chest rewards and the numbers never seem to change upon reloading!
This is REALLY sucking all the enjoyment out of the game!
Please Update the Shipp Upgrade Packs in the Store.No one needs 2* Stuff of any kind on Level 22 or Higher.
Than i would also buy more š
This is absolutely the most pathetic bull shit about this game.
@ionic citrus I second that you really need to balance the resource allocation better by level in everyway 2* just makes no sense as a reward to anyone low - mid 20s and up.
Please adjust the daily events for higher level players. All the way up through the low 20s the basic daily events were doable but once you hit 26 some of them just cost stupid amounts of resources to complete and require way more than it's worth. Especially when you consider the rewards offered. Balance is a tuff thing to manage but I think you guys can afford to hire the crew to accomplish it.
@delicate sentinel related to my earlier question of CS...
@delicate sentinel That is exactly what I told them. And after 6 mails and almost a week... This is a pattern, every time, every issue. I dont complain about something that isnt confirmed glitch or a bug. They spend shitload of time trying to convince me otherwise. They spend Your resources of time & spreading of good will. And for me they try convince me everytime to just quit this nonsense. (But for some sick reason I want to stick around and see how this circus will turn out to be...)
Refining is still bad - I have not had one rare G3 gas drop in quite some time. This is preventing me from progressing as I will not buy multiple $160 packs just to get the necessary resources.
@potent cipher <@&509691205798592532> i really hope Iām not the only player that has noticed the maintenance issues are the same as they were last maintenance...... so the last 4 hours i lost i got a 24 hour shield what about the rss lost for waist of time
@torn karma If you have a bug report, please submit a ticket to support.
@nova sierra knows well my raiding skills i make 1m plus an hour.... 4 hours where in my regularly scheduled raiding hours.........never fixed anything as per new maintenance msg
I wish you were on my server @torn karma šš
@hushed swift are you sure lol
@hushed swift my irl brother is on another sever so......... someday watchout
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@torn karma unless you or your brother have enterprises and D4s running around, not going to worry. š
I'm okay that he's not on my server :D
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How does the system determine what xp you get from killing a ship? It seems totally random. For example Iām killing romulans on a level 24 system. I kill a level 24 trader and get 334 xp I kill another level 24 trader right next to it and get 134 xp. I then fly over and kill a battleship level 24 get 338 xp and then kill another one same level and get 218
Its the difference between neutrals and faction
The problem with the bugged bases really becomes an issue on our server. Itās starting to spread. The game really becomes unplayable if half the bases you attack that donāt have people online get bugged in mid raiding. It started with the russians and now whole planets with people around get bugged.
Raiding is hardly worth it.
How many systems are bugged in yours? We have a couple as far as we can tell
Itās spreading...one system seems to be completely bugged. People porting in get warned that theyāre going to stay there for a while. And itās true. They canāt port.
When we see a fat target for raiding we first ask in alliance chat if itās bugged.
So itās not just certain systems.
I try to report base i come across to support, but then iām reporting all day.
Itās definetly worse than say a week ago. Came across two new bugged bases today and one went bugged during my attack.
Oh and just to be clear. The bugged bases canāt be attacked and they canāt port. Message says something about the base not being able to port in its current status. Contact support.
Last few days saw two other bases go bugged on me.
And i couldnāt keep count of how many bases people ask in the alliance chat that are confirmed to be bugged. Like i said, itās spreading.
Atreig has one planet,nevis I believe that's god moded
If I worked at Scopely the place would blow up. There would be so much common sense the roof would pop off
yeah atreig is bugged on my server
top left planet.. some bstar players moved there to avoid getting raided
we made tickets to support, but won;t do anything about those, abusing this major bug
@humble heath that is bugged on all servers
hope they fix it soon!
@potent cipher @delicate sentinel SWITCH SERVERS
confirmed planet zevis is bugged on all servers. last patch moved theier launch and land locations to just to the right of the altrieg star. now they are stealth in addition to safe. just getting worse for us and safer for them
@potent cipher @delicate sentinel confirmed planet Zevis is bugged and one alliance is using it to keep from having to use shields cause they cant be attacked we nicknamed it the "God planet " they are basically using the bug to exploit the game
@potent cipher @delicate sentinel all are from the same alliance none can be attacked , exploiting a bug to protect themselfs and free go after others without wasting shields
Why is it so that the faction stores G3 raw materials purchasing is not thought through?
a Romulan aligned should be able to buy G3 Gas and Crystal. Instead they can only buy Ore and Crystal, Ore which they are required to mine 10K+ daily from when hostile to other factions
this leads there to being Two systems that exist ingame with neutral gas-mines that you can mine from when aligned Romulan. Naturally those two systems are 24/7 occupied by 100-250K mining ships, meaning its impossible to progress once you need gas
shouldnt the faction store be the counter to this? Mine your own factions G3 stuff, buy the others. Or is it intentionally made like this to force people to buy packs to progress if they are deeply involved in factions?
I'm sure folks have already asked for this but I'd love to see an indication on the galaxy map to tell me I have missions available to me for which i have not started
yep, sounds like SCOPLEY just dont want to provide a working game nor be strait and honest in their services
they demonstrate they dont care about their players, only the money they can get from them.
the truth is said, SCOPLEY, even if my post is lost in the mass of posts, the people know the truth.
How about some number 3 crystal other than in Klingon areas where it canāt be mined
This is rediculous! I am attacked while my shield is up. Zeroed with no 5 min shield. My attacker is on a attack free planet and invulnerable to attack.
This is crap! I want my money back
Here are his cords
[S:719474967 X:-418.6577 Y:-599.156]
message support, since no 5m shield they should refund rss
Okay doing a mission that is intended to kill a Klingon, for the Romulans but the alliance points have me losing more federation points. That doesn't seem correct.
Could we make base resource mining relevant again? At the current mining rates, it takes literally months to collect the tritanium necessary for one ship repair at higher levels, or the parsteel for one building upgrade. Let alone the quests to mine millions of resources which are nigh impossible. The current balancing has cut off one aspect of the game completely. <WARNING>IF WANT TO TELL ME TO GET TRIT AND STEEL FROM ENEMY BASES, DON'T! I KNOW AND IT'S NOT THE POINT! </WARNING>
No they want you to buy packages not steal ššš
Which is fine, but right now mining is inferior to generator, to dailies to anything. Basically if you mine the whole day trit with 4 miners you still are producing less than the generators ...
My suggestion is to make it relevant, not to make it OP š
Itās true
They better get some crap fixed,like,7 reloads in one hours rediculous
better drop those NAPS then @copper girder ?
I knew it ... people just canāt resist
Lol, We came for the star Trek franchise and left because of Scopely, whose motto is " Seize the Pay"
Fix your refineries. Sheesh. I get common almost every time for the last weeks. Iām lvl26 I need so many uncommon itās not funny. The refinery shows 9 options for refining. 3 of which are common and I get 90% of my refined in that 33% area. I love that you posted that you heard our complaints, gave us a 3 day refine boost then we went back to normal. Way to listen...
@delicate sentinel why is an algorithm blocking my progress I am refining 3* raw stuff for over a month and yet still have to receive rare goods of any sort. I cannot upgrade my north star because of this. This is unlawful under EU regulations
@delicate sentinel Open the refinery bonus for the whole event...waiting 3 days is just silly, we won't be able to get but 2 swipes with the idiotic 10 hour timing anyway! SMDH.
This is ridiculous. The amount of resources needed to save a paltry 10K dilithium?? Itās not worth the resources
Ok, this looks lame. 1 day only, but a 2+ day countdown?
SHIPS are built in the SHIPYARD. Ships are TIERED up on a DOCK????????
@hollow violet read the event announcement
@potent cipher and @delicate sentinel we need to be able to SWITCH SERVERS
I hate this current event
@chrome thorn its in the Q&A in #ā-official-announcements and is coming up
here's some general feedback...fix the big glaring bugs...like your station getting destroyed while you have a peace shield activated...didn't get notification that I was being attacked, saw it in battle report, went to activate a shield and was told I already had one activated....
Resource allocation is not balanced for higher levels, the refinery, event and hostile rewards need to be balanced for levels.
The refinery is practically a bad joke most of the time.
Many of the events especially the power gain events are not balanced for higher levels it costs a fortune to complete them and the rewards are not worth it.
Hostiles should give out rewards for there level or at least be more balanced. A 3* level hostile should not give out 2* items.
Events should not give out 2* level items after the low to mid 20's probably 22-24, they should only give basic or 3* materials.
Players should be compensated when game bugs cause them lost progress or resources especially when they can show it with screen captures and it's a known bug.
The bugs need to be fixed!
I'm ok with the pay to compete game play but the price for items in this game are way to high especially when you consider how many bugs and the unwillingness to compensate players for losses.
Please enable changing bridge crew when a ship is off base. Off course only crew members assigned to that ship.
There needs to be a smaller range of player levels you can attack! I am a level 21, I have 500k power overall, my ships have 30k power max. I keep being attacked by a player lvl 29 who has a single ship with more power than I have overall. How is that fair? And how am I supposed to defent myself?
@midnight folio if pm me screenshots, communication with support and player id and I'll see if can escalate. That shouldn't happen.
@ @nova sierra great idea but that won't happen. The devs don't care about players who can't afford to pay to win.
This is bullspit. Why is this even allowed!!!š¤¬
@distant gull probably wouldn't have hit you if you weren't op.
But yeah the power discrepancy sucks.
Yes he would. This whole alliance hits anyone on a node overloaded or not
Scopely - Could use some assistance with your game layout in regards to the fact that a lot of us have to 'keep the game up' in order to react to things and the concerns for Screen Burn in.
I just started noticing some of the layout is burning into the screen and I only have played the game for about 3-4 months now but do have it up for hours at a time. The settings don't allow much other than telling me it has HD settings. This is on a Samsung S9.
@distant gull From what my Alliance leader has reported, Scopely has a chart of 'acceptable' hitting ranges for each level. Sadly, this does not take into account that not all players can fight reasonably well against players who put in a lot of money into the game or spend a higher amount of time into the game to game the resources to make them more powerful over time.
This chart is not going to be told to us, but in my personal opinion, the PVP aspect, along with the PVE aspect, has some 'questionable' balance aspects that still need to be addressed.
Power disparity is one, while it is understandable that people should be able to crack bases (Thus needing higher power...) the tradition player mentality is "hit with guaranteed win" which often is 'overpower by any means possible'. The rewards vs risk is literally skewed to the point that it does not really reward taking risk, it rewards people paying the most money to jump ahead.
Or plays the most.
@unique glen I didn't take screenshots, and it doesn't matter. I've decided not to waste any more time in the game...The Pay2Win is too high in this game and you can't progress without it.
Is there a place for reporting cheats?
@stable jay primarily through support with any evidence, and then secondary is through a Mod here
@delicate sentinel Here is some feedback, the daily missions suck, same thing every day and guess, what the power creep one sucks the most why it is useless. The events suck, give something different and the refinery is the worst
@delicate sentinel let put a confirmation dialog on the recall. Picked up my phone and inadvertently touched the recall button -> 30 minutes wasted
@midnight folio I'm sorry to hear that. I'm nearly ftp and I can progress, it's just slower and has to be more targeted. If you change your mind, contact cs, you should get your rss back š
Inappropriate response to a legal hit.
Heāll rage quit soon.
This is happening on our server now to support a player that is having serious medical problems. The alliance asked for people to park their ships next to his station for a vigil.
@lost sun We have often done the same. Thank you for sharing something positive.
They were trying to get a count of the number of ships, if you can help with that.
There should be more 3* resource nodes. I have only found up to 6 in any faction space and there are fewer in Klingon space. This might have been acceptable early on in the game when not many needed 3* resources. But now that there are hundreds upon hundreds of people who need them. It would be wise to open up more systems with 3* nodes. And why the least amount in Klingon space? Did the person who decided where to place them have a problem with the Klingons??
Hello
@fluid wharf Iāll look and Iām on the same server. Iāll have my Sally āpay him and his allianceā a āvisitā.
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With such player attritioni would expect more gimmes from the devs/ cs team.. apparently that hasn't occurred to them
I was wondering if there's going to be another pack offered that includes the elite daily tokens I thought that may come up every few weeks since it was a 90-day event
@fluid wharf that some bs...normally our alliances dont see things the same, but as we are on the same server i think ill go looking for this dude. Some of us are dying from cancer, though fighting it. Sorry that some cannot choose better words.
Got attacked by 2 GEās with a 3 day peace shield on. Reperstrike and Leviathaner. Both L 22. Curious to know how they could do it, robbed me of all my resources...
well just raidin. They sometimes use many war ships to take you down, then send the envoys to rip all resources
I have 3 maxed envoys for that
Now I am pugrqading couple days old northstar
@nova sierra itās a hack bot that allows players to attack even though you have a shield. Report it and send your player Iād and any screenshots you have of having a shield and of your resources. They should refund your resources.
This game is full of shit... and no patch goin to change that. Time to uninstall
@livid ginkgo thanks. He needs to be taught a lesson.
@analog ravine, thx, I reported it. I am awaiting an answer. They should ban these guys
Yes, I told this when it happened to me to Nebt who created HiveMind and she reported it too. She also said it was a known exploit but Scopley being true to form hasnāt done shit
Another game that slowly has disappointed me.. still trying to tough it out. hardly any communication about what's going to be fixed, and compensation for aggravating circumstances..I'm left with little desire to continue
Agree. I just come on. Do my dailies and go play other games. There is no real attachment or attraction any more
Timelines gave a chunk of free stuff for mistakes
For anyone who dont know the pvp chart bracket: at lvl15 you can hit 19 and vice versa. At 16 you can hit 21 and vice versa. Every lvl adds 2 to the top end.
Draw your own chart
Might not be the best place for this, but I got a PM about Scotties workshop in-game:
Report it
Report and block the player. Submit a screenshot to Support if you see any pms of that sort.
<@&509690795536941056> <@&509691205798592532> have reported these guys
Thank you. I got one of those messages too. š
bye, we'll let you know when it improves.
p.s. ther were probably talks of remanding the pvp level gap
Lol
Whatās the maximum number of ships you can have?
What levels does it go up?
at level 18 when you start upgrading the ship hangar
It was 59.... but it was buffed. I think it's 64 or 69 but i'll have ti check that. @heavy star
Whatās the limit before level 18?
The issue is the base was buffed.
Gimme a min i'll boot up the game.
Ok. So base was 10 and it got buffed to 15. ^^ now max level is 64 ships. ^^
@heavy star
Thank you. I was talking to a friend that just started playing and wanted to give accurate info but wasnāt sure.
No worries. You can check most this yourself in details of buildings. ^_^
They state what buffs they give per level.
Why insist on taking the EU servers offline ar a pro EU time? Surely this could be carried out why most are sleeping
timezones
and some ppl never sleep
so they put it in times when most ppl are supposed to be at school or work
What's sleep?..lol dang mining event
@nova sierra the stuff you will have plenty of time for when you are six feet under
Aye,with 'caine season coming I certainly need some distraction
I felt you were talking about me there. ššš
@gloomy oasis No problem. Just don't need more people subscribing to that crap It already creates enough problems as it is.
I was talking about vita's comment regarding sleeping. What did i get dragged into?
Sleep deprived people mistaking something you said with someone else and then seeing like pink Elephants dancing with tutus.
how to link the game to Facebook
OMG another mining event aimed at the high level players with big ships. Absolutely ridiculous
Absolutely catering to big players and spenders
Feedback. Ditch the event planner. Who came up with this latest mess of an event?
What happened to the new PVP event? I had an inactive station that I was hitting. Was already ranking up in the event... A waste of my time and resources is NOT AT ALL appreciated SCOPELY!!!!!!!
The event was not supposed to go live today and it was in fact a mistake. I have past on your concerns related to expending resources and speedups to the powers at be.
Yeah when will we see reimbursement for what we used
I burned through a lot of Jellyfish upgrade package lat because I was out of trit (NS upgrades). I was #10ish when event was canceled. Also lost a 24 hr peace shield. A bunch of our guys were also 0-cargoād off 3* nodes and lost their Daily Goals. I bought through iOS, so taking this to Apple if Scopely canāt fix this
This is literally the definition of false advertising in most jurisdictions
Yeah our server went nuts with people hitting nodes for an event that got pulled 2 hours after it started
@delicate sentinel the ten minute chests really need to scale better with level. Iām at 25 and frequently theyāre essentially meaningless amounts of resources like 200 tritanium or 1,000 parsteel. May as well not bother.
Compensation for losses? I want my kirk shards and fed tokens :P
Von jetzt an gibt es keinen einzigen Euro mehr für euren scheiĆ den ihr da verzapft, scopely. Es reicht! Verdammte Axt nochmal... š© š
Seriously?????????
The combat balance in this game is appalling. Just had one higher level player attacking lower level bases, and a score of other lower level ships couldnāt make a dent in the ship by way of defence. The whole combat system is fundamentally flawed if no amount of skill, strategy, or reasonable numbers of lower level ships, can defend against an attack by one.
The PvP Level scale, in my opinion, seems to be reliant on the fact that they don't have Armadas available to allow more than 1 ship to hit a base similar to how Lords Mobile uses Rallies to gather up sufficient forces to hit an objective. Although even in Lords Mobile, high level players could literally singlehandedly smash through defenses as well.
There is literally no 'normalization' that should be in place for proper PvP.
The load indicator of each ship can be more usefull if change color when it overload the protected load capacity.
@pallid hatch @willow galleon I quit after this last event. I was level 25. Couldn't hold a node because a level 37 player just hit me non stop. One rotten alliance on my server essentially controlled everything. I made a post in here about it and it was removed because I called Scopley out on the unbalanced aspects of the game and bugs that have gone on unresolved for months. Not to mention their rotten "customer service" lol
For the pvp event they should balance it so miners aren't prioritized it should be 1 point for a miner, and 3 points for a combat vessel (interceptors, explores, and battleships)
and really??????? well done devs on the balance šš»šš»šš»
@hallow pumice -- unfortunately, even with that point spread, it's less of a risk attacking a miner and less maintenance/repair needed on the attacking vessel. You can attack more miners and get the same points and use less resources repairing.
True, I could hit 10 fortunates compared to 3 phindra and have a faster repair, it'd be a matter of how quickly you could hit the ships
Please move the recall button so it isnāt next to the locate button
@delicate sentinel does daily elite reward packages come back ?? It was a very nice addition for players
@delicate sentinel Past a certain level the dailies are a pain to complete. If you do not complete both a building and a research you have a really hard time getting there. Faction hostiles tend to be 3-5 levels higher than the normal daily hostile making that daily a pain (6-7 repairs) also because there are really few systems with lvl 33 and 35 faction enemies and the level you are looking for is usually already gone. No one kills lvl 32, 34 and 36 ... sos that is all you find. At the end of the day, I have come to a point where I am missing out on the last chest more often than not, being almost research capped and unable to build daily a building because I am resource starved. Or do you expect me to pay a pack every 3 building?
Can we please have the daily elite token pack. I will gladly buy a few!
Reported my problem 4 months ago, havenāt been able to upgrade ships since Dec 9th. Have over 50 messages back and forth with developer over promising and delivering no solutions. Placating me on every attempt to rectify this issue. Spoke to three āmodsā here which āescalatedā my issue. Still nothing. Go back in to contact us to ask again for an update and all of my conversations with them have been erased lol. Can you define a worst company than scopely? I feel like it should be a new word. Man I heard you were scopelyed ! (Totally and royally screwed over) quoting the game like everyone else die to total and complete lack of any care and support. :/
Need to replace 8hrs shields with 12, or include the 12s in the chests, I need sleep
@ivory ember it's funny if one piloting a 300k go havoc , essentially he or she can End the game
I would kill everybody no stop ... get 500 kills daily
Who comes up w this garbage
960k officer points and thatās the top reward????!!!!
Maybe for 250k
Maybe
i thought i could stay at level 14 to finish all the low missions, but they are all grayed out
canāt get a jellyfish now š¦
i bought the ship pack with jellyfish parts
but the quests to get it are grayed out
guess i played wrong and lost my money, dumb game
Dont wast money or time on the jelly fish
i wasted money on it and didnāt even get it
i see ppl with 2 of them
this game can smd
@versed hearth are you talking about specific Jelly mission that are greyed out? It's normal to find a lot of greyed missions because many of them can be started in severa systems ; when you've picked one up in one system, all the others grey-out immediately
@delicate sentinel @potent cipher When will Scopely do something about mines changing rss? In Karmia there are 3* crystal mines that change to dil when they are reset. And there is no guarantee that after becoming dil, it will revert back to 3* crystal.
@cunning python It's deliberate.
Might be deliberate, but it's unfair.
Why's that?
There are flippers that go from G3 gas to ore, ore to crystal etc
others parsteel to trit
they eventual flip. if you're lucky they stay on the ressource you want for 2 cycles
It's hard enough already to find 3* rss without having to deal with flippers, esprcially after you've staked out a mine and followed the accepted protocols.
Agree that there aren't enough 3* sources now
Fix the shield hack please
Shield hack or is it just that they randomly fail?
@delicate sentinel My suggestions for this game are - 1 dilithium mining is a joke takes 10 hours to mine 12k , I take one of my fed ships for daily and it costs me 46k dil to fix it and its at tier 6 only. 2. Refinery is a total joke, at level 31 I barely get 10 to 20 uncommon if that from 12k batch since the 125K is not doable on daily basis., yet one upgrade on a tier 6 mayflower requires 860 3* uncommon gas . 3. Events are not worth the resources spent, we should gain more than we spend on events. 4. Your Packs for $100 dollars are a rip off, i need to buy 5+ packs of $100 to do one upgrade of any kind on higher level ships, and one base pack will give maybe enough for 2 or 3 building upgrade. I expect to spend $100 dollars and be able to tier up a ship not barely upgrade one item. 5. all repair prices for ships need to be reduced. 6. all upgrades costs need to be reduced.
When can we expect packages without 2* mats & parts? @delicate sentinel
1 pack cost me $160.00ca and I donāt want to pay for items I no longer need. So, Please do something about this.
One I'm not going to buy,is49 USD,had a ton of*2 I don't need.. reduce it to a 20 and I'll get it..ffs
I'm about to take my business to a different gaming site. I spent a ton of cash and now I've got to pay to upgrade my station "BS" and your team wants a review. I don't even get a good customer service gift for what I have spent. If you want to keep living in Barcelona Italy you better stop robbing people and take care of us lvl twenty and up, not makes us pay to play this site. It's a scam not a game anymore. You are over charging your better customers
The 2day "refinery bonus" was a joke - I refined 24k of gas to get 18 uncommon - I mean REALLY????!!! And not only once, but EVERY time, so much for getting any change at rare!!!!!!!!!!! not one of the G3 bonuses gave me a single rare, another F for fail!!!
how much uncommon do you get typically refining 12k?
not much, I will check tonight when I refine, I think it is more than that though
is this player exploiting?
my alliance have already logged multiple support cases regarding him but nothing is being done
Pew pew
@wicked jetty from a 12k refine I got 30 on one and 18 on the other, still no rare G3 gas.
Refining is rubbish
@heady smelt What is that guy doing? I saw 4 of the vids now but i only see him chasing you (this flying pattern happens when you click on something and hit attack and dont fly manually after i think)
Umm, what happened to the 24 hour peace shield that we were supposed to get before the server maintenance?
"We will be giving 24-hour Peace shields to everyone prior to the maintenance. We sincerely apologise for the inconvenience caused by this."
@solemn coral @delicate sentinel. Thanks for the 24 hour shields prior to down time. Did ye just forget or not care? Thanks for thinking of us anyways...š¤·š¼āāļø any chance of getting 1m rss tokens to make up for all the raids that will happen
So when i started this game it was fun. The universe was full of people you could raid to get resources and use them to upgrade your ships. Trit prices where expensive for components but with a day of raiding you could buy an upgrade. Now after a month of screw ups in updates, events that got pulled, massively increased trit prices, resources behind the coins, my galaxy is almost empty it seems. No trit or dill to be found except in bugged bases that you canāt attack. The usual base has between 30-70k trit but the bugged bases have in the millions. Bugged bases, that are spreading on our server. Iād say 2 out of 3 targets are bugged now. Itās no longer fun to play the game. The economy is dead and players are leaving. We need a regular influx of trit and dil to keep the game interesting, not just a stupid event now and then where you can choose between incredibly hard to get items or some crums of trit or dil. Mining trit or dil is a joke, rates are way too slow. And generators obviously canāt sustain the economy. Since the trit prices where raised i saw only people leave, even high spenders. Investing time in the game seems hardly worth it anymore. Panic could you please make sure the devs do something about this? @delicate sentinel
Hi is anyone else having issues with the alliance rewards and not getting any rewards or great rewards for what the alliance member is buying and what you recieve
@quartz flint the reason rss can only be found in bugged bases is simple: you (and everyone like you). You dont mine, you just raid. and that leads to people that do mine getting zeroed and leaving the game. This is why NAPs are bad, but thats another story.
@cosmic knoll So you want me to mine that 3.9m trit upgrade for my northstar with miners capable of mining at 6k an hour? Seriously? š¤£
if you didnt create the situation youre in now, you could of had hundreds of bases with things to take. and now youre going to have to mine and protect your stuff or get raided
It's almost passed that point, critical mass ,too many leaving due to numerous reasons
Add piss poor support,little to none in truth
At my level,it's really time consuming to attempt to mine anything more than a few hundred thousand parsteel, maybe a load or so of tritanium...face it, scopely is killing its game
Look, itās a pvp game people will take whatever actions that are optimal to them. Given that if i donāt raid, my neighbour raids, iād be an idiot to not raid. If you get raided too often, have a problem with naps, go talk to scopely. Itās their game mechanism that steers this bevaviour.
Also, those that keep playing are probably at last getting the idea that peace shields are useful
No resources,no pvp,or pve
And I get it's supposed to make us buy x,y or z... buuuut it gets kinda ridiculous
How do you report alliances using illegal bots?
@solemn coral @delicate sentinel hey we have a major issue developing. On our server we have an alliance forming of players having very high level ships and power doing one thing.. attacking everything and everyone. They may be doing this out of protest, some say, being done with NAPs and ROEs and act like it is a free-for-all. The strength of their ships due to upgrades is way too much for even the higher level players who have not spent real money as much. All the other major alliance leaders on the server I am on are getting sick of them and their ability to do what they are doing. We need assistance.
I think the answer here is to spend money to keep up with the arms race.
@ivory ember sounds like a spectaiclar idea may have to do something like that on MY server
@maiden kite what do you think, good idea?
Interesting that the strongest alliance in a server can declare war on the entire server and no one can do anything about it. P2w players are given too much advantage compared to f2p who spend time grinding. Our server is losing ppl cause of these bully tactics. We need a server merge, not some lame excuse on why u can't.
@paper ember you need a sustainable economy and new players. A server merge will only increase the amount of bullies...
Please double the mining rates of steel trit and dilithium.. I'm getting to hault because out going is more than the incoming. When I'm not mining t3 its trit to keep up with the repairs of the ship. Or better yet remove the caps from stations and let out factories continue to pump out resources leave the protection cap as it .
@ivory ember welcome to the club happend on my sever already been that way for weeks.
@merry current šš»
The capacities are meant to encourage people to either hit other players, Hostiles or mine for those resources.
However, with that said, mining time is too ridiculous for most resources and fighting players and hostiles are not necessarily a reasonable way to get them either.
Well when you got a group of 6 or 7 alliances all of level 25 and up players nothing gets done when they decided to rule all by killing everything they can hit 24/7
The time it takes to do mining or to hit miners for those resources are rather tedious and while it is 'nice' to send ships to mine, it is literally a chore to babysit them since there is literally no way to respond to attacks.
<@&509691205798592532> the interesting thing about tipping points is if you are there.. its already too late.
You mean, even if you are there, it is often too late.
No I think @iron grail meant what he said
thank you @merry current
Well, all I can say is, I am volunteering my time to try to help. I take a lot of requests, and talk to many of you, passing on your infomation. I have chosen to make the game better in every way I know how, not just for my allaince, but for all of your alliances.
@nova sierra and thank you for that
I admire the faith some people have that things can change, I just have not seen much evidence of their willingness to implement aside from the refinery. I am not leaving the game, I am just retiring my 'beat a dead horse +1' stick (upgraded through a purchase).
What needs to be done is taking the attack range and change it, the 3 up and down for the teen levels is good, but making that gap larger as you get bigger is a game breaking mistake
People in the 20s should not able to hit lower players period
My thoughts
My belief is that the 'widening' the rage is their stopgap measure for the lack of armadas at the moment.
And to encourage buying of Peace Shields.
But it is obviously making competition too lopsided for higher end players or players putting out cash.
what do the systems look like on your sever? ours look like bubble farms
or dead bases
About that.
OR some poor schmuck who didn't remember to bubble getting hit GTA style.
In order to break up the super alliances of high end players, if you take away thier abilities to hit 8 or more levels below them they will have to fight each other
The teen levels fight each other, the 20s fight each other and so on
Better balance
its a resource reallocation game at this point.
PvP rarely happens unless a higher level gets bored and clears a zone and a mini war breaks out.
Actually, true, proper PvP is more about normalized combat. However, with strength disparities in the factors of 5+ multipliers... It ceases to be a pvp type deal and more of a 'rapefest'.
Right now during mining events and such I got 23s 24 and 25s coming in to g2 space and making all so they can lead the events
By locking all to a attack range if 3 levels restores balance
Or better yet base it of power
And not player level
Also no indication of longevity, which could be solved with a road map (even if they didn't stick to it). Giving a community that seems to care an idea of where this is going can only help retention.
Maaaaan, I just wanna ā š§ š š š° š ā
And do my missions. The only ship I ever wanted was the ECS Horizon. When it was moved from 23 to 26, I was devastated.
Let's be honest most bases are not worth hitting because majority of the server are broke. Yes there are a few that have millions to stored but rare. I find that its not worth the repair bill to knock a shield down for 100k trit all spend half that much and Latin just to knock the shields and destroy the ships. So let's face it we are all roaming around looking for dead bases to farm.
@copper girder new players get eaten alive by older players unless they are willing to spend.
@paper ember thatās why I said you need a sustainable economy
And of course a fairer pvp setup,
Server merger without changing the rules will only make the situation worse
More easier dailes and bigger and better rewards are needed. Dont want to spend cash on this game, progress and bug fixes are coming at a snail's pace.
well what if an entire server came together and vowed to not spend 1 more cent until these bullies trying to intentionally ruin a server are dealt with by terms of service or code modification, or other way.. would that get Scopelyās attention? We will see...
@delicate sentinel it would be nice to be able to revoke invites.
Can I say it? Faction dailies are BS warping there takes 6-10 minutes and I should be staring at the screen because god forbid I am not staring at it when the ship arrives I am back at base with a broken ships and hundreds of thousands or mats for repairs! This is a STUPID design! Plain and simple!
I think it would be pretty simple to level the playing field and make the game enjoyable.
- Make upgrade packs affordable I wouldn't mind supporting a lot more. Ultra packs should be $20, I would buy 2 or 3 a month instead of buying 0 and spending 0
- As @merry current said, base the attack range on 3 levels or power
- Increase the freaking refinery reward rates, more uncommon and remove the time limit, we are already limited by the time it takes to mine the RSS
- More PVE missions that are easy to find and don't require a "donation"
- Fix lots of bugs
Hands up how many people would buy ultra packs at $20?
You stated earlier that 24-hour shields would be given out for the next maintenance window. Is that still the case? Will these be automatic or sent as gifts?
You'll be lucky if you get them at all is the answer.
Our server patch came and went this morning, no peace shield
with the added bonus of no more 5 minute auto peace shield for base attacks
If they follow the same pattern, there will be gifts. Sounds like this one was missed for some reason, but going forward should have them attached
Oh what a surprise! Delete my post.
Unsure what happened in this case, but will likely hear from Panic soon on what happened.
I think Panic called in a sick day today, tired of dealing with us lot
Haha nah. He's in EU so it's like 9pm or so depending
lol, yeah I'm in the same timezone, haven't seen him all day. So I'm going to call it a sick day... Just because he's not round to defend himself šØ
@ @calm root. I'm guessing you're not allowed to ask people on here their opinion on what we discussed?
You can totally ask here, our request is to try and keep it constructive criticism vs dumping salt.
The basis of the idea, which I've raised again with the devs, is lower price points and more options for mid to low spenders. Is that what you're referencing?
Basically yes. Would people like to see the lower price packs/offers recycle at regular intervals.
Well that and maybe balnaceing the combat so higher 20s cant hit the teens @calm root
And maybe change up the events a bit
Also when will they introduce a rss sharing system within alliances.
Different rewards and whole new events would be great
Oh and the refinery
Do I have to say any more about the refinery or is that enough?
The refinery is really hard work.
Either remove the timer or change drop rates on the refinery I say
What kind of event would you like to see @merry current ?
@calm root i would really have to think on what, but as for the current ones change up the rewards based on level and need
Reducing timer to 4 hrs would be helpful if not less
And make it so the higher levels have no incentive to blow up peeps on a g2 node
@calm root the mining event is really bad for that
@calm root but one I can think of right now is a base raiding event, there are lots of raiders
@merry current thats pvp I guess but its frustrating when a higher lvl just flies around hitting miners for points during a mining event.
Yes that is pvp, but I am more or less referring to the uptick during the mining event
Think we scared him off. Lol
Or he is trying to keep up lol
Lol nah. I'm hanging around, bunch of channels to watch haha
Do you guys get/do the surveys every so often?
Valid ideas though?
@calm root yes I have and filled it out meny times
Yes, every time. Same response...naff all.
The ranking events should be leagued ie. being a lvl 24, there is no way I will ever come close to 1st position, however I would rank in the top 10 against other lvl 24, 25, 26
Oh totally valid ideas. I dig. Some of these I've suggested to the team about, but as we see new ideas or variations of older ideas we pass that along. Believe it or not, the developers do read through here on a regular basis because of all the cool and interesting ideas.
@calm root honestly it's like trying to deal with the UK government atm. Blinkered, not interested and in denial of any issues.
The survey is pretty key for tracking of ideas on their end. I started a list of ideas in between surveys so that I could write all of them in there.
(Can't say I've heard the term blinkered before Haha, must be a UK thing eh?)
Event idea... PVE missions
Doesn't feel like it. They deal with issues like glitches or minor problems but seem to have a real problem when it comes to financial matters.
As in there are a set number of missions you have to do in order and it's ranked on whoever finishes the quickest, or the most missions in a day. Something like that, something that's not effected by timezones.
Blinkered. Yes. Like a cart horse. Can only look forward and won't be distracted from their goal.
Just make sure we can actually find the missions
@tiny fulcrum good point. One thing I struggle with is finding lower level missions that I have missed. Maybe a little coloured dot where missions are available.
@acoustic zenith Check out HiveMind
If you scroll up in the official announcements channel there's a link
!mission is what you're looking for
Totally get the surveys but after doing 3 of them and minimal improvements to the game I stopped wasting my time
Ok thanks
I just keep filling in the same thing on the surveys... affordable upgrade packs and lvl limit
Time is better spent working to buy packs that do less and less as I progress š
@tiny fulcrum cant find that section.
I mean I would love to support the dev's but I can't bring myself to spend $55, would rather buy 2 Raspberry PII's and a few Arduino's
@acoustic zenith
https://discord.gg/bwPDTVB
@acoustic zenith Goto one of the HiveMind Channels at the botton ie hivemind-5 and then type !mission
Ok I will try
It's helpful but good luck finding the systems in game
@tiny fulcrum holy cow! I didn't expect that.
@calm root I do think that some sort of in game icon of what systems have missions to pick up would be handy
Or at the very least, clicking on a system shows you the available missions. That way you don't have to load all missions on the Galaxy map, which would probably cause lag
but you don't need to enter the each and every system
They did mention in the qna that the map is being revamped or improved. So maybe be within that
I was thinking more like how alliance members are seen on the galaxy map some kind of signal that says hey there is a mission here
Nothing fancy
@calm root yes I hope something is added is and when they tweak the map
When your base gets attacked doesn't a temp shield usually go up ?
its supposed to, as long as one hasnt gone up in the last 8 hours
8 hrs ? Ok good to know. Seems I have to have permanent shields atm. Been mining tri for a mission and everyone seems to want a cut of it
Rebooting my earlier whinge:
@delicate sentinel @potent cipher When will Scopely do something about mines changing rss? In Karmia there are 3* crystal mines that change to dil when they are reset. And there is no guarantee that after becoming dil, it will revert back to 3* crystal.
It is incredibly frustrating, especially if you've been trying to do the right thing. Yesterday, I had a node that was dil 3 times consecutively before going to crystal. š”š”š”
Itās not an error. 2x dilithium reset, then 2x g3. It exists everywhere. There are mines that alternate crystal and ore or tritanium and g3.
It works well to not make people park their miners all day
@potent cipher @delicate sentinel not sure if this has been brought up before, but higher lvl systems in Klingon space are just a joke - for example a lvl35 system that contains only g2 nodes
@next kayak This was supposed to have been fixed in the previous server update, but it wasn't š
There are probably a thousand things that Scopely was supposed to have fixed but... š
Level limit is a big concern and must be changed. Itās not a pvp when a lvl37 is hitting a lvl24. Itās hardly pvp when lvl37 hit a lvl34. Low lvl station with maxed ship docked donāt survive the first attack. Our server is nearly dead. Players quitting mostly because attacked and drained of rss and there was no way to defend. Itās getting to the point of requesting a full refund from the App Store. The game is not at all as described.
I thought you were supposed to be gamers. Why would you make a game so unbalanced and containing mistakes that similar games discovered years ago?
Maybe these things shouldāve been addressed before the game was released. Speaking to real gamers wouldāve helped. Everything revolves around the player that spends the most. All events are planned for the same player to win every time. The highest lvl always ranks first. There little to no reason to even participate. You just make the strongest players even stronger with special crew and ships followed by an expanding level limit so they canāt get out of range of stations to destroy and drain. I could go on for days pointing out all things that make this anything but a pvp game
@mellow meteor It has to be greed. They want people to keep purchasing packs after getting raided so they will try and level up to keep up with d-bags with unlimited funds. There's no other explanation for it. Nearly every part of the overall game mechanic filters you into pay to play as you grow, just to keep from getting outright destroyed. We are having the same issues on our server, many people leaving (big and small players) because scopely is ignoring the big issues and slapping lipstick on the pig ( crappy and glitchy events ).
Patch/update notes on official announcements? Pretty standard stuff.
So Iāve been playing a game, called astrokings. Not a patch on stfc, but many many great points of the gameplay can be looked at and replicated. Stfc in game currency is Latium, in Astro itās gems. In stfc you get Latium for free sometimes from a chest 24/4/10mins. In Astro you get gems from leveling up and doing missions.
So it really drives player commitment to complete tasks and level up to get more gems to level up and do more missions.
They also have a system where an alliance can post a space station in the galaxy that prevents any other station from being within proximity. So essentially preventing a player to port next to a base and drain it. All players are notified if someone in the alliance is being raided.
And they can send a fleet of ships to help support against the raid.
I donāt think greed is quite right. Other games follow that same principal with more balanced play and a fraction of the issues. When serious ones do arise they are dealt with immediately and players are compensated. This breeds longevity and attracts more players. Greed doesnāt chase players away
Graphics are bad but after three days of playing, the game system overall makes stfc very poor.
@mellow meteor lvl 37's can penetrate peace shields? Didnt know that...
go to bed you troll
Lol
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No I have to get to lvl 37 now!
Players are showing up to raid within one or two min of a shield going down. Pvp means you canāt shield all the time. When that lvl 37 can show up with a faction mining ship and crack the station and take two million rss with the first shot thatās hardly fair. The main point that seems to allude you is how can that lvl 24 retaliate if their station with docked ships canāt even defend against one attack?
Ok I wont derail, and I agree katana, the level range is bullshit
I was informed last week that a lvl 49 can hit as far down as lvl 30.
Yes
Easy way to fix it would be if your base power as listed was your actual base power
But it's like 1/4 which makes 0 sense
Level range is going backwards in my experience. It should closed to an eventual couple levels at most. So it doesnāt discourage lower level players progress.
from a game theoretic perspective, at least with our server, if the pvp level range in the mid-high 30's was where it should rationally be, it would extremely limit who those players could actually interact with given the limited number of people in those levels
Well the game seems unfinished past lvl 37ish especially there is nothing to do for thier big spenders, bottom line
it would greatly disincentivize those players from continuing to level until there were more players in their range
thereby curbing spending for their top spenders
Another easy fix would be to make base generators actually produce RSS so it wouldnt be such a big deal to get raided
I don't see them narrowing the level gap until there are many more people in the 30's
But right now it's like, wtf am I gonna do with 250k dil when 1 repair takes 500k?
Makes perfect sense if you assume the research boost arenāt being applied to the battle. Not really a stretch. What doesnāt make sense is once a station is destroyed the repair is reportedly to the defense platforms. Yet if the station goes unrepaired and is attacked all the defense platforms defend the station.
yeah i agree about the generators, they are total bs
Ya that is bs because defense platforms have 1hp so wtf is there to repair?
Oh you just want me to waste millions of trit.....ok gotcha
Nobody is going to make it to the thirties. The joke is starting to go around the thereās only going to be one alliance of players left with nobody to battle. Itās getting increasingly difficult to find an active base.
On our server
you do see the problem that I have laid out for you though?
That's true, that's why they will start merging servers in the near future
if level 37 could only punch down to like 32, the one 37 on our server would only have like what? 10 possible targets?
Ya 5 of which are in his alliance lol
exactly
so the level gap is likely going to be adjusted as the progression dictates over time
the fact of the matter is that there has to be a reason to pay the kind of money it takes to get to 37, and given that there isnt some amazing new content to play with the only thing you have to do with that purchased power is smash people
Yep
By the time they merge servers only the whales will remain. All mid level and ftp players will have long since quit. There are a lot of mid level spenders. Huge revenue chased away because they opened the range instead of closing it. All because the whales complain that the rest of the server isnāt keeping up and they canāt attack anyone.
the top player on our server isnt even in the top 20 globally either... which is another big smh
the numbers i see from other servers destroy anything i've seen on ours
If it doesnāt backfire. A comment like if they arenāt going to fix the game we might as well burn down the server is a real possibility. Thus ruining everyone gameplay. Those that are there because theyāre fans.
What level is your top player @charred gate ? Ours is 34-35 I believe
37
well.. depends what you mean by top
he's the highest level
not the most power, he doesn't really pvp a ton either so he's not even ranked decently on the PD or rss raided boards
He is the most power...
On Tuesday night three of the top alliances got together to launch an assault on the level 37 on our server. With two ships he was able to fend off easily over 50 players. Granted the majority of the high level players are in his alliance. Mostly for reason you can guess. But the rest of the big guns and mid levels were there and couldnāt put a dent in the station while he just flew around and picked off one ship after another like they were nothing
@mellow meteor to your comment about not fixing the game, there certainly are legit issues, but the things you are talking about are more issues of perspective based where you are at and don't necessarily reflect gameplay experiences across the board
and if you wanna get trekkie on it, do you remember Wolf 359...sometimes a power is so great that it can destroy however many ships you wanna throw at it
the only solution to what you are saying is to ask a company that relies on a small subset of its gaming community for the majority of its funding to change the game in a way that would hurt that bottom line and its really just not very likely to happen
in my opinion, those who are paying the most are like the shareholders, and just like most companies, their primary duty is to the shareholders, not to people who are enjoying the product for free
and I say all of this as someone who is entirely f2p
Okay. Would you like to address fixing too. I did say I could go on for days. First you have to define fix. Every time they release so called fixes, the issues remain unfixed and a whole new set of issues appears. Whatās getting fixed. Thereās a planet in one of the systems that players canāt be attacked. Itās been like that for a couple of months. The players enjoy a shield that never falls while they go around pillaging. Months is not a word that should accompany a serious issue like that
@mellow meteor as I said, I agree that there are legit issues, and as far as bugs and glitches go, those do need to be fixed, and as much as i'd like to see it done faster, i'm not a programmer, and I don't know the complexity involved in fixing all of the issues
if it were as easy as pressing a button and poof its all fixed, I would have to assume that it would be done, I don't think there is some conspiracy that they are ignoring the problems
It has been my experience that usually the people who are complaining the most have the least experience in whatever field they are complaining about
As someone in the mid spending range, and believe me itās still a significant number where do I stand. Not everyone can spend like a whale. There has to be some accommodation for the other spending levels. Not take your money then aid the whale in crushing you
this is one of the reasons that I have not spent since the 2nd week our server went live, because spending begets more spending and sets unreasonable expectations for progression and gameplay results. My base has never been successfully raided, and part of the reason is that the whales are all outside my level range because I knew I was not prepared to spend what it would take to stay competitive with them.
Actually. Itās funny you say conspiracy. Jokingly I said in ac the other night that itās almost like devs got together and bet if they made a game with a high profile name and filled it with all the mistakes and bugs they know, people would still spend massive amounts on it.
certainly a funny notion to ponder, however not very likely given that these practices would ultimately leave them extremely vulnerable to lawsuits should evidence arise that they acted in bad faith to mislead their customers
there is already a class action lawsuit discord dedicated to that topic
the fact is that they really provided the game as is, made no claims as to what you should expect if you decide to spend money and as far as in app purchases go, they don't owe anyone anything beyond what is advertised in each pack
they aren't forcing anyone to pay anything
if you think you deserve to compete with the whales, you think that because you think that, not because its a realistic expectation based on claims made by Scopely or anyone else
Foolish of me to assume that they would follow loosely the model of most of these games. The basics such as level range. Tiered reward levels in events. Or that I could trust when I scanned my station to see itās power that it was actually that in battle.
there are bugs and glitches which should be fixed, I am not arguing that, certain elements of the battle mechanics need to be worked out and many things are wonky, that is for sure
@charred gate Sounds like you're a big spender. How many servers are there and how many whales are on those servers?
lol, I am not a spender at all, I said and referenced several times that I am f2p
We have maybe 10 big spenders, let's say they each spend $1000 a month, that's only $10 000
I am merely applying logic to these issues
1 developer is at least $3200 a month
Then you have overheads
server costs, support
$1000 a month is a conservative estimate of the top spender's outlay. More like 2000 (or 3k)
If you chase away all the mid lvl spenders, which is happening on all servers, the big spenders will also leave as there is nothing for them to do
I don't know how many servers there are, I don't know the statistics of all of them, I don't know what constraints define a "whale" etc
Iāve played many games like this. And I know what to expect and the level of involvement. Level range is there so your play your level. Not destroy everything below you because your almighty rich and powerful and obviously lacking some fulfillment in real life
@mellow meteor It seems like your issues have more to do with your expectations and past experiences and include a fair amount of buyers remorse
I've been playing since almost the official launch and I'm only lvl 24 and I am a mid spender, well was
because there is no reason to spend another cent in game
@tiny fulcrum this goes back to my original point about the reason why the level range is so broad at the higher levels
I also expect straightforward answers from support. Hereās a concept. How about some support. Not a line of bs that most of the time makes no sense
@tiny fulcrum because if it wasn't, big spenders would have nothing to do
As in any economy, it's the middle class that drive it
and the middle class have no power here.
Want a perfect example. Defense platforms. How many different lines have you received as to why they donāt count in events or power creep? One is totally based on an inability to comprehend the English language. If this was intended there would be a clear cut answer that would make sense
Support doesnāt have the foggiest notion of whatās going on and just make up answers
Bottom line is packs are way over priced meaning, big spenders will be big spenders but if you level the playing field with much more affordable packs, more people will upgrade faster giving the whales more targets while ensuring the f2p players can enjoy the game as well
I guess another BIG issue is I don't think the game is even developed to lvl 50 yet
f2p inherently means free to play, meaning not spending. I have chosen on principle to play the game without spending any money to see how far I can progress, so affordability doesn't apply in my case as I wouldn't be buying them even if they were affordable
I am level 22, almost building capped at that level, research capped, and 780k power
and I've spent $150 since week 1 of the official release
Pack pricing is on par with other games. The difference is in other games the packs change depending on level needs. These ones are half filled with useless crap. I havenāt needed 2* anything since December but every pack I buy is loaded with it
So can you explain the hundreds of dead bases on all the servers, a far greater number of players don't see it from your perspective
Donāt expect to go any higher
Yes, I am entitled because I spend money
it's the bases of money
It's why I spend it
I donāt feel entitled. I donāt want to feel ripped off
they also don't understand the game by and large, so when they get raided they feel it in their wallet and don't wanna do what it takes to recover from that, so they quit
@mellow meteor That is entitlement, you are entitled to not be ripped off.
if you are used to spending to speed thru the game, once that slows down, if you aren't willing to grind or actually play the game, you wont continue to play
spending begets spending
if you start spending you have to keep spending or else you have to slow down and play
if you arent used to the slow grind, it is very easy to be discouraged and quit
We havenāt even touched on the hacks and cheats the the game is left exposed too. For example.
it happens all the time
honestly, i'm really tired, and you raise some legitimate points, you have your expectations and my advise to you if you are dissatisfied with what you have gotten for your money, don't continue to give them your money and play the game, or don't.
I'm gonna continue to play, not pay, and see where that road takes me
Nothing will change unless people supporting the game raise their concerns
Itās also easy to get discouraged when you spend $500 and do a bunch of upgrades and moments after your shield drops, even if youāve just moved, the top players have somehow found your station and in only a couple af hits have drained you
I've gotten my money's worth out of the game... lol, so I think you've massively overpaid and now you're upset about it. I would seriously re-evaluate your spending habits... games used to cost a 1 time fee of like 40-60 bucks and that was that, how spending thousands somehow became reasonable to you people I will never know
in what way is this game worth $500 bucks? like explain to me how you thought that was a good decision in the first place?
let alone spending $40k to get to level 37?
i mean... come on now... lets get real
@charred gate Did I mention my obsessive-compulsive tendancies ;-P
lol
That I agree with. But I chock it down to my entertainment budget and Iām good with that. My spending habits have been the same in other games and I didnāt feel like Iād been robbed
I bought the low priced pack's, tried one of the $50 packs and that was that
never again
Those games delivered what they said they would
I say the packs are over priced for what you get in them
the ultra pack would be worth about $20 to me.
my advise, and I give this free of charge with no expectation that anyone would follow it, is stop expecting so much from a game that provides almost everything that it is at face value. If you enjoy playing the game, get used to grinding, find other people who are playing at your pace and enjoy the ride with them.
Stop spending too much money and then regretting it or feeling let down when there will always be people outspending you
If I had an issue it was addressed immediately and if it was the fault of the company i was compensated. This game is none of that but you donāt find that out till itās too late
Good advice, except people are rather leaving
It's never too late to just walk away
if the game becomes unprofitable it will get closed down
and then all your grinding will be for nothing
that advice is also free
indeed its not, eventually the game will be left to the people who aren't spending and the few whales for whom money is seriously no object whatsoever
The whales are killing the game for themselves, if they drive off all the small fish there will be no one left for them to play with
you spenders need a support group
You donāt understand. There has always been bigger spenders. I donāt have any issue with that. I know how to manage what I have for maximum results. There are many traps you can fall into that waste so you have to buy more. I avoid those. I just donāt want to be lied too or feel cheated because Iām being cheated.
maybe thats what this is and I accidentally stumbled into it
You're a lone ranger @charred gate
perhaps
but i'm not mad...and I enjoy playing the game... so I'm not really sure who's right or not, but I still have my money and I'm not raging against the man.
"the man"
The event with the outrageous 2 mil power boss. Iām still fighting with support about. A couple of the vanished into thin air after many attacks and repairs and just as I was only a few attacks away from killing. I received no points or rewards and used a ton of rss. Thatās getting ripped off
time is in fact money, but i've enjoyed my time, and I actually like playing and grinding for materials and parts and thats what I do rather than attempt to buy upgrades
and at a certain point I will probably not have the time required to continue to advance and when that day comes I will probably just call it a day or find some other way to amuse myself in game
Once you get to level 24 you have no choice but to buy. You will never get the uncommon and rare mats needed
so that is probably where it stops then
there is no endgame, no big glorious adventure waiting for me at level 50
so there is no point to this game other than to play it as is
I will participate in events that allow me to capitalize on the bonus refinery etc, and progress as I am able
as I have always done
but if I quit playing, I will have no sense of having lost anything because I have gotten what I put into the game already.
I have no issues with spend. I would spend more if the game wasnāt in ruin. Theyāve created a situation where one player can completely dominate and if he chooses take down the entire server. Good job.
had I invested $1000 or whatever amount, I would feel obligated to continue to pay/play to not accept the lost investment
this is wrong
spending money in an e-game is not investment, it is for amusement purposes
therefore whatever you spend it is lost, it doesn't constitute an investment
do these people seem amused to you?
well if they aren't then 1. they should stop spending and/or 2. stop playing!
if that doesn't amuse them
it is a game, not a bond !
I think you are correct, but I think that the people spending feel like they are investing in their ability to participate in whatever content is to come at higher levels
unless you are a shareholder of course
thats what i mean by investment
investment in your ability to take the game as far as it is possible to go
again, this is not investment! lol
which is a big question mark and ultimately a gamble at this point because there is no defined endpoint
it is money spent for your hobby
when you go to the cinema and maybe you have a good time
is that invesment?
well its not money spent for my hobby, because I don't spend money and I enjoy myself when I play
its theoretically an investment in your happiness
if you buy shares and you can expect some money return on your money, that is investment š
an investment in your well-being
this is not called investment then š
your definition is obviously a very literal one
that is why it is money spent
investment is something else
whereby you are doing it to have fun
if you don't, then scroll up a bit in my answers š
i fail to see how anyone spending money is having more fun than i am, simply adding a few numbers to the exact same process that I am experiencing
exactly
that is why i haven't spend a cent
and not doing so in any mobile game
unless you buy it and you own it
but this is old school like me š
i am with you
anyway, the game is back up, gonna click some things and punch some buttons and then go to sleep
fly safe š
and you as well
can someone put a 24hr ban on bubuka, so that he may learn how to put sentences together, isteast of spamming the hell out of a channel? ty
so i have this weird thing right, i'm alligning myself with the romulan faction and pissed off the federation quite a bit (viva la romulus!) buuuut i still need 3* gas, wouldn't it be more logical that in the faction store under romulan i'd be able to buy gas 3* and crystal 3* since they are in enemy areas than ore 3*(which i can mine safely) and crystal 3* (which is just confusing)?
@timber crypt I think they offer those for sale because, being your host faction, you will need far more refined materials for their ship upgrades. The idea being that you can focus more on mining the off faction materials in neutral zones while still refining faction resources at a cost of faction tokens.
But looking at buying any resources in the faction store is a bad idea. The faction ships require 200 credits for each blueprint for the lvl 28 ship so saving for them is wise.
@hearty elk i do get it partially, but why just the easiest one and one of the pain in the ass ones, it feels to me just odd. either do the primary which also seems sellable with the story "you know as romulan we mine a ******* load of ore that's why we sell it" and drop the "off" material or just do both off ones since they are a bloody pain to get
@timber crypt check your messages in a minute.
will do?
@delicate sentinel this is the top reward for lvl 29 limited time station event. Letās break it down, the Parsteel is not worth mentioning, the Tritanium and Dilithium cover roughly 4 repairs of mayflower or 5 of my Saladin. The uncommons ... letās just say that any building or research at my level requires between 2 and 20 times that much. How much does cost me to get that reward? I am going out on a limb here but I would say about 100M Parsteel could be enough maybe and at least 60-80 uncommons. Not considering the speedups or Latinum .... wouldnāt it be high time to balance this game so that it actually makes some sense?
All those daily and limited time events rewards are just "nice to have" extras for work you already want to do, IMHO.
I tend to hold off upgrades to station/research/ship/officers until there's an event on, then do the work and get some consolation for the cost.
i.e. do not compete unless you had stuff to do anyway
On the topic of Limited Time Station events, how do you know how much a certain building will increase your power by?
you just go on a hunch and get the exact opposite points
@wheat oak Thanks for the precious insight (I am being ironic of course). Would you care to point me at a reliable source of Parsteel that would give me the possibility to do upgrades? We are talking of 20-40M per building. In my server there are maybe 4-5 bases with that kind of steel and they are permanently shielded. Any other activity nets me order of magnitude less.
So you are telling me we are "playing" at a slot machine where you never win.
and that my playstyle should be to buy a pack for every 3 buildings?
I like the new ship class symbols visible at all zoom levels. Now you can see who's mining with war ships easier and take them out.
Do you have latinum @copper girder ?
A few thousands from the last packs I bought why?
Ok, well a trick I use to get steel if desperate is find the most expensive not upgraded building that requires steel and buy it by clicking the icon. Then use that to upgrade smaller buildings as its x3, x4 cheaper to buy in bulk.
Example, Ops 29 was like 25M or something, buy that for 2k lat and then upgrade the 4/5M buildings. Its not cheap but if lat rich is effective and better than speed ups if u are patient
@delicate sentinel So far, nice update, love what you did with the ui, the.shield icon and the ship identity icon, keep it up...
@carmine jay nice find I will test it out
<@&509691205798592532> Do we have any timeline on patching the bug that allows bots to remove shields? We have kind of a mexican stand off on our server with people accusing each other of using bots
@copper girder We are collecting information regarding the issue, can you ask for them to collect what they have and send it to us? The more information we have, the better, and I for one would like to see de-escalation on your server while we investigate.
The Asia server is so fcked because everyone is using bots. They know where you relocate to and exactly when your shield is about to drop.
Trust me. I have been working on it on my entire server ^_^
Seems like the page is offline now for the famous one
I am spreading the news and trying to get solid info to relay here
They can hide ships on your station that you can't target.
@modest relic That you solve by having end to end encription in the comunication and allowing only digitally signed software to communicate with the server
If you keep a readable and accessible db of the internal state of the game or you have clear text communication you will always have bots like that
Indeed
Some more detail needs to be put into official announcements. We were told the latest update will fix battle logs, spinning mines and login issues. What we actually got was new ship icons, updates to some screens/menus and a HUD peace shield button. A little transparency would go a long way.
on my server the broken nodes are working now
and i received the last battle logs, i think they are fixed
I think bob means on top of what fixes there will be as well the new things such as what we got today that he mentioned
Yes, thanks, Tyr!
Ah yeah sorry š
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Anyone know how to get in touch with the game other than submit a ticket?
The developers may not get much positive feedback so I wanted to say I really like the ship type added to the level tags
Yes I do like that addtion
with new update, the useful help-bar under research and building progress disappeared. I hope that is a temporary problem because that bar was a very helpful tool.
Start the clock - See how long before the broken nodes return.
already!!!!!!
Screenshot it, or it didn't happen.
How do we use the badges to promote our officers?
Anyone figure that one out yet. Seems ridiculous to have through purchase but cant even use.
Your Officers may need to be higher level/tier for those tokens.
can we make an anti zevis channel here in discord? or would that overload the server?
They have admitted it. It's being worked on
Ok here you go. 2 batch refining. I hit Ore last and got a connection error. Came back in and it was now unavailable so I have no idea what I got if anything. #
This is about right every time at level 34. I got 3 rare gas this morning
One of my goals is locate to a federation space. I have moved my base twice to a federation space and it still shows as a goal. Is this a bug?
@delicate sentinel I think this is where we are man. So Scopely has a choice. Force people to pay to play the game or allow people to pay for creative stuff. If the former this will be a death march to the end. Thatās not overstating. Thatās just economics. When you get common occurring pulls like this at lvl 34 with the unreasonable requirements to fulfill things like I dunno. A cargo hold. You are burning good will. If they want to understand what the limits are you can do that. But thatās not A-B testing. Thatās stupidity. You wonāt create more whales this way for much longer. But maybe your sentiment analysis AI is so state of the art you are just going to smell your own armpit because lord knows it couldnāt possibly be biased $$$
There is a specific destination you have to travel to with a ship first. I did the same thing
@raven fossil
Here is what I am going to do to help you guys out. On my server Iām one of the higher levels. Top 5 power. Iām going to fkn kill everyone. Thatās it. Iām just going to kill every player and ground them into sand. Letās see who stays. Who pays and who adapts.
should be some changes to the ship pre reqs.........
i'm lvl 23 and have enough bp's to build kumari from grinding hostiles
but with the current system
by the time i finish the pre req's i already can build one + the bp for another which isnt practical building 2 kumaris
Why did you take away the helper counter for research and builds????
@Panic Bellas on server 13 has two dead nodes that weren't there, I believe, before the latest update.
@main pilot which counter? Both are still there... Counter under current build and research and a counter for open help requests
update your client magicalelf
OH, weird
Wait...
Yes, i don't see those either. Weird, could have sworn they were there yesterday
@wicked jetty @nova sierra The app update removed the counters, but helps still work the same as they did before.
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Please bring back the Alliance help tally, the information is needed and is very helpful to the game!
When are the spinning mines being fixed? Still got them on our server š¤£
please bring back the help-bars!! if you want to speed-up buildings and research for events, its very helpful to know how many help you already got!!
Rep looks better but still missing a few digits once you hit the millions
plaese add base attacking bug in fix list as soon as posible
I am afraid the buff to mining will be still irrelevant for base resources. Nice for g3 mats though.
Feedback regarding the April 16th Update, could the Loyalty be moved to Daily Chest 3? In order to escape rushing blindly into where the superpowers can hit me, I have remained at Level 16 to rank up my ships and officers. As a result, I can only get 3 Daily Chests. I can get close to all 4 with the Federation Mining Dailies, but the killing ones are too high unless I level up. The only reason I am 16 right now was to get Jellyfish without money spent, took effort and patience.
If you consider a lvl 30 player, even at 20k/hour Parsteel mining would be a joke when each upgrade is several millions, and Tritanium at 10k/hour when 1 ship repair costs you 200k is simply not relevant.
@sage jacinth get over the Jelly. He is totaly useless unless you got it realy fast with money.
@delicate sentinel with the new vaults, does prime protection for resources still double the value?
@delicate sentinel
The april daily reward pack is on the store.... but why can't I buy the ā¬20 and ā¬50 packs???
It totally ridiculous you don't make all the packs available for all players... Give them a choise what they want to spent... in the end you lose money with this tactic. Please fix this
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@delicate sentinel this update is shit. It's going to completely erase any benefit to raid bases, which is the best part of the game. I'll be going F2P from here on out.