I am reading to get a view on what type of person keenser is
#💬-general-feedback
solemn coral
nova sierra
Seems to be a basic introvert in a game studio, who has his on view and has been forced to listen to others too. And the result of outcome is the median of good and bad, never what he really wants. Corporate governance kills the main drive and lack of resources the positive vibes, so need to have a shell of good things and smile for the team 😃
gentle shale
Couple of questions (apologies if I missed them when reading above):
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When will the issue of "dead" nodes be resolved? Every system has what appear to be mines but instead cannot be mined and instead have a spinning wheel. Reporting these does not seem to resolve an issue that should be able resolved via code.
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What is the basis on which refining determines whether or not you receive uncommon materials? It is highly frustrating to spend hours mining 2*/3* materials only to get a handful of uncommon materials, if any. While uncommon materials can be purchased, those on fixed incomes may not be able to afford the investment.
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What type of development and testing are used? Is it a form of Agile or something else? What kind of testing is done prior to implementation of updates? There seems to be on-going issues either with the game in general (eg, I need to clear local cache multiple times a day) or following updates.
@nova sierra Thank you for your answers.
nova sierra
@gentle shale none of your questions got answered, if that worries you a bit. And probably wont be in a way that matters.
gentle shale
So - a bit like in-game help. I missed the earlier Q&A and wasn't sure if this the gateway to submit questions since the ability to post is not available.
Perhaps they turned it off at whatever point in time the event ended.
@nova sierra - thanks for the reply.
onyx marsh
Yea I think they are answering the ones they want to
nova sierra
They got 6000+ questions and chose relatively irrelevant ones to the q&a
gentle shale
I am so surprised at that.
nova sierra
Easy way to give answers to stuff people doesnt really want to know.
onyx marsh
I’m tired of spending so much money and getting very little out of it
gentle shale
@onyx marsh - my major investment has been in time as I'm one of those on a fixed income. I know of at least a couple of players who have put in over a $1k. If I did that I would be subject to the form of domestic abused known as a wife's tongue lashing.
onyx marsh
And too many missions require you to spend even more@money to complete
nova sierra
Money isnt even an answer for real, the paywall is huge when you get to higher levels now
gentle shale
I understand the concept of freemium games - but this seems to be ridiculous at relatively early levels.
onyx marsh
Yea so the only ones who really succeed are the ones with lots of money
nova sierra
Succeed? 😂
They just paid
Or should I say we, having spent 2-3k, didnt count
The ones who succeed are the ones who do well playing it free
gentle shale
We have players who appear to have more money than sense and they rule our galaxy because of how much they've poured in. Their form of game play to get higher level resources is to raid bases, hunt mines, and then kvetch when someone returns the favor.
onyx marsh
How@do you figure?
nova sierra
What is kvetch
gentle shale
Yiddish for something that rhymes with witch
Not quite up to the level of whining - but pretty close
nova sierra
Lol ok
gentle shale
@onyx marsh if you're wondering how I figure about their investments - highly powerful ships within short amounts of availability and quick, sudden leaps in game level.
I could be wrong - just a strong suspicion within our section of the multiverse.
Well - time to go hunt hostiles to complete daily goals.
🖖
nova sierra
Not much to figure out. Just remember, real winners are the free to play grinders that are efficient & strong, not the ones who are positioned in the power list at the top
Anyone with money can buy strenght, but only the ones who know how to play are good players.
potent cipher
@gritty shoal hey, bit of context, we had logged in roughly 6k+ questions
we aggregated the recurring ones to be tackled in priority
there'll be more of this, theough this format, or other avenues we are exploring (AMAs, stream, etc)
nova sierra
I have a quick improvement suggestion. We can preview the benefits of upgrading a component on our ship. But we cannot preview the officer improvements when we promote. It would be nice if we could see the officer upgrades
onyx marsh
It really sucks this game cost so much
potent cipher
agreed, also works for refining etc, that is something we push for, would be great to visualise the impact of an officer, component, building upgrade beforehand
nova sierra
Especially with us evil whales are about to drop some faction points for an upgrade
But that might be the price of being evil
weary minnow
@potent cipher do you know if this officer was from an event in the past or is it still obtainable?
I can't seem to find him from any recruit tokens
keen bobcat
Answers should have been left so players can read them after it's all been done
potent cipher
yeah, we'll export the Q&A content and share the transcript on other platforms
hasta mañana, be good! 💃
kind laurel
For those of us who are unable to spend actual $$ on the game...Knowing that there's a path allowing continued growth(even if it does take some doing) would be worthwhile.
nova sierra
@potent cipher that q&a was and is not worth a transcript.
Dont spend time on that, instead figure out how to do one for funny stuff & game design ideology, and one for the real in-game problems.
proven niche
@gentle shale to your question about development methodology they mentioned sprints, so that would be Scrum which falls under the Agile umbrella
nova sierra
An hour was spent on nonsense, any other such sized title company’s game dev q&a would’ve handled 50-60 pre-made questions with real time answers
twilit slate
So the way to fix mining was to reduce the timer to match actual mining speed, not correct the speed to match the timer. So the envoy is now mining at 2700(ish)/hr after maintenance, down from 5500(ish)/hr and yet you keep the requirements for builds, repairs, etc. in the millions. How long do you expect people to mine and stay playing the game - there is nothing to do if all you have to do is mine for a year or more for a single basic upgrade. Where is the fun in that?
@nova sierra Since armada's is apparently the answer to the ridiculous PvP levels that are set, and armada's are goodness knows when. Why not show the players some mercy and set lower PvP levels until you release the armada feature? You are losing players due to this and this doesn't appear to be a concern at all.
nova sierra
@weary minnow Leslie was available in an event only, with pike I think at North Star introduction
kind laurel
Dude if you gotta take time to roll you're already behind the curve... #prepiskey
solemn coral
and no, armadas is not the answer, imagine a bunch of 17's hitting a high level base
bitter wagon
<@&509691205798592532> <@&509690795536941056> I had a friend get banned from the discord and is trying to find out why
solemn coral
armadas be like that in such a case
@kind laurel lets just say I enjoy both production as consumption
nova sierra
Pass the fattie
solemn coral
If I need to compare this game with a joint, I'd need to say: not enough weed, way too much tobacco, and not rolled inside out
passes ())______________________________))))) to @nova sierra
discord stripped a lot of _ 's in there
enjoy it, it's Zombie 😉
nova sierra
Call it what you want as long as it does the trick
solemn coral
carefull, unless you wanna induce a coma 😃
hands @nova sierra something to drink to stop the coughs
nova sierra
I can handle iiiiiiit
solemn coral
you look like towelie now !
nova sierra
Lol
solemn coral
twilit tinsel
The other side of the dramatic lack of resources is there is 0 war
If nobody holds much base resources there no point hitting bases.. pretty sure most of us play way games so we can goto war ... if there is nothing to steal there is literally no point attacking
calm root
Will there be a transcript for the QnA? I had to bail at the end, not sure if they added much when they went to the chaos fire storm that was the chat
nova sierra
@calm root yes they will do, but there’s nothing to know. Answers to questions that dont solve anything or have very low meaning to anything critical whatsoever
nova sierra
Is there a moderator or game admin that can help please?
It helps them to address your request if you open up a bit, for what
Inappropriate behavior & names not allowed. I continuously request that they change their name. I've reported multiple times & continues breaking server rules.
calm root
@nova sierra yikes . I liked some of the stuff. Sounds like some interesting things in the works. I hope @nova sierra collects the questions answered from the chat as well as there were some interesting ones there I saw
nova sierra
Well, it’s good that you liked it and some people liked it. Was not a complete waste!
calm root
Yeah definitely some things I didn't care about, but some cool questions answered. Not sure why done via video or live stream vs text but hey I'll take what I can get
Is this post patch or pre patch? I'm wondering if the fixed both in one swoop
vivid fox
@calm root, you mean mine?
calm root
Yeah
vivid fox
It’s patch with examples and fallout for the current situation.
calm root
So post *maintenance ? Aka you're on EU?
calm root
Ah I see. Yeah I'd wait till tomorrow for #1 cuz it might be fixes with the maint
vivid fox
@calm root, ok, will delete and see what happens. Is tagging Devs discouraged?
calm root
Lol, I mean you can. The CM reads through the chat and answers stuff without tagging. Excessive tagging is generally frowned upon
But once in a while is prob aight. They haven't said don't do it at all
vivid fox
Ok, then I’ll count on the CM spotting it. Hopefully they’ll tag me when they answer.
calm root
Totes. I don't mind getting tagged cuz I don't always see the response haha
vivid fox
@calm root, don’t see aMaintenance channel.
calm root
Maint channel?
vivid fox
@calm root, you mentioned that my post was more appropriate in Maintenace. I don’t see that channel.
calm root
Ah haha. Nah I was saying like post-maint (after-maint)
vivid fox
Ok, which channel?
calm root
You're in the right channel, I was asking about if you were in the 'after the maintenance is done' crew or 'maintenance isn't done yet' crew (aka EU v Us)
livid vapor
Yea how come they removed the Q&A Channel, I missed it, but would' loved to have a read through... @potent cipher
calm root
They'll likely post the script in a bit
livid vapor
yeah but they could've just locked it, so it ould be read through
hushed swift
@nova sierra can I do for you?
livid vapor
hahaha yeah mining officers have been like that since i started paying about 6 months ago, and was like that even longer before. hope they finally fix it
calm root
(If you click the link there's a gallery of pics for each q)
jovial sun
I read that all wrong originally. captain mining. Sounded like a pvp thing. "I'm gonna go mine a buff captain" which pretty much means, attack all miners. lol
calm root
Lol
livid vapor
Thanks for that @calm root that'll give me some reading material till it all comes up 😃
nova sierra
@hushed swift what can we do about abusive & inappropriate names on STFC? I've been reporting & he keeps doing it over & over
See?
leaden narwhal
Is there any place we can see the q and a? I missed it.
hushed swift
@nova sierra currently this is an issue that the devs are looking into, we have had some pretty out there names on our server as well. All we can do at present is report, screenshot and ticket it. I know it seems like cold comfort atm, but the more reports done, hopefully they will do something about it.
People who get around language filters should be stopped. I agree
nova sierra
This Alliance [DNGR] is causing lots of problems in the game total distespect & abusive language, as well as inappropriate & sexual & vulgarity to everyone.
leaden narwhal
@nova sierra there's an alliance called boob in my server.
leaden narwhal
Indeed
hushed swift
This is why I wish we had server IDs.
nova sierra
@leaden narwhal https://m.imgur.com/a/poreZjw
hushed swift
Or instance IDs
leaden narwhal
@hushed swift is there anywhere to see the q and a?
leaden narwhal
Where?
leaden narwhal
Ty
hushed swift
Seems likes its endemic across servers. I will post it to Panic where he can address it for you when he gets on
hushed swift
Anytime
nova sierra
Im fed up with it. Making me not want to play to be honest
Many younger individuals are appalled as well
As the parents
eternal tide
@nova sierra the best solution is to stay out of General Chat and stick to your alliance chat. You can do without GC
hushed swift
I block offensive names. Wish it would block the names of the ships in systems too.
nova sierra
Agrees but we cant recruit unless we go onto the gc
eternal tide
Report all abuse.. and block
nova sierra
Seriously not as bad as Ive seen on GC tho
hushed swift
For now, @nova sierra report, block.
leaden narwhal
@nova sierra just take screenshots and keep reporting. It took a month, but one player who would swear at me on gc for hours each day, even when I wasn't online was finally banned.
nova sierra
Wow
leaden narwhal
I think the rape threats against me were the last straw. I reported it to Google Play
nova sierra
Oh crap are you serious?
leaden narwhal
Yes
eternal tide
Who can we tag now, devs?
leaden narwhal
Plus there's a few players who constantly call me weird names, but I haven't reported those yet.
nova sierra
Sad idiots like that
leaden narwhal
It's like living in some bogan enclave sometimes
nova sierra
Its 1 thing to disrespect people but another to actually threten them , their kids, or family.
leaden narwhal
Bogans are Australia's version of rednecks, excuse the term.
nova sierra
No worries
leaden narwhal
Whoops, I thought this was general.
jovial sun
well, that explains that. 😄
analog yacht
@maintenance
Since maintenance happened my protected cargo limit has drastically dropped
thick stream
Really.. this game indirectly makes you pay to play and then cheats you out of what you expect. Example being the mining rate or piece shield timing,or repetative attacks that empty storage bins. Let's discuss that
hushed swift
@analog yacht will submit that for you.
thick stream
ornate hedge
Does anyone know if the Q and A was captured and posted somewhere? I see that they removed the channels. Heaven forbid the majority of the working class to have a chance to actually read what was all discussed!
ornate hedge
Thank you
hushed swift
Anytime 😊
peak mist
Can you please fix defects without adding new ones. I am so frustrated. It’s called regression testing. Ideally automated.
static violet
No alert for server shutdown ???????????????? 😡
nova sierra
calm root
Bugs eh
languid bison
That is terrible
nova sierra
New bugs Devs...since the update this morning. Im killing myself? How?
My miner can only hold 1200 safe? It was holding 10k safe before the update? Why?
Im private chatti g with myself? Why?
This is just poor on an unpresidented scale. I WILL NOT SPEND MY MONEY ON YOUR POOR PRODUCT.
I know you DEVS will do sweet F.A about this as you dont give a dam about the players who make you money.
Bless you all.
dusty prairie
Seems like our zone was the Beta test zone of update. Other areas like USA and Europe didn't get the update because of the problems I think.
nova sierra
This morning a logicical bug as Always
limpid socket
Here’s feedback. Your game has the most unbalanced PvP ever seen an you continue to do nothing
hushed swift
@nova sierra me too lol
nova sierra
@delicate sentinel are you guys...panicking?
deft patio
@delicate sentinel are you planning to fix the mining issue that you guys created
slate anvil
hey @nova sierra : did u guys miss a zero on the protected cargo on survey ships? not to mention people are talking about lowered mining rates
elder mason
@nova sierra @delicate sentinel your team continues to prove time and time again how woefully incompetent you are. officer abilities have been broken since NOVEMBER and your attempt to fix them broke other things. industry worst standard in game dev smh
inner plaza
first one is bad officers, second one is a win, just wrong combat log
steep bronze
@strong forum Looks like both are probably stronger officers on the other guy
strong forum
Lost both times, bc both ships got wrecked. I won after the 3rd try
flint cairn
Suggestions for improving the game:
- Make automatic resource generators so that in the absence of a player they accumulate (it will allow more looting of the base and the interest in the game will increase)
- To limit the sale of packages for money or to allow ordinary players to receive them free of charge.
- Increase the chance of unusual resources falling out of recycling (wait a whole month when no one will collect the required amount for construction, people are already leaving the game)
solemn coral
render bugs because of missing information
I hope keenser ordered someone to dive in deep
they should debug database connectivity
potent cipher
hey fellas
for the reports above
about exterior view with interior shortcuts, did have it on my acc also
but unsure how to have it reproduced 100%, can you? 😃
wheat oak
I had them until solo event completed. not seen em since.
potent cipher
let me know it that pops again, we're willing to retrieve repro steps so our qa/devs can tackle it, thx
strange geyser
@delicate sentinel Ye Olde King's Head may be the answer to your problem, guy I was in training with said it was good.
gusty raptor
In same time, same ress. This is just. How? What logic?
solemn coral
@potent cipher consider it server render issue, I had that too on both ios and bluestacks
@potent cipher I'd guess a client/server issue where objects are not cleared properly
leaving objects in the memory to be considered by the render engine to render, thus showing up
potent cipher
insta repair cost discrepancy is known and logged, being worked on
in the meantime, approach CS when this occurs for matching comp
cheers
solemn coral
@potent cipher including miscalculations in instant repair ? (https://stfc.key2peace.org/view.php?id=11) ?
potent cipher
nova sierra
eta? 😉
solemn coral
before hell freezes over
nova sierra
❄
thick owl
So glad I wasted a 24 hour shield on a maintenance break that never happened. 🤡
nova sierra
When will the balance in level being corrected.... level 27 that can attack level 19.... this is total f..cked...
pallid peak
Best advice for now is to shield when not actively playing
sage shuttle
@nova sierra what would help reduce the failed mining nodes issue would be to simply increase all asteroids to 1mil so they dont have to respawn as often maybe only once a day
calm root
Lol
unreal sable
@thick owl me too! Scopely never fails to impress me. 🤦♀️
potent cipher
@unreal sable i deleted that last message. Strike 1 is logged ❄
unreal sable
Lmao
potent cipher
😉
unreal sable
😉
Curious. Did you just call me a snowflake?
Careful with those emojis. There can be many different interpretations. 😉
gloomy oasis
My friend, my advise to avoid trolls.... don't feed them.
calm root
Just feed the whales 😂
unreal sable
👆
gloomy oasis
Devil... that's a bold move.... lets see it it works out for you. 😂😂😂
unreal sable
@nova sierra careful, you might get one strike. 😂😂
nova sierra
What? 🍆 is just as offensive or not-offensive as ❄
unreal sable
Lmao. Nothing offends me so I don’t know. You never know what people are going to get uptight about.
Hey @potent cipher this better? 😘
potent cipher
🕺
unreal sable
💁♀️
silent night
Umm...no more protected cargo space for miners?
potent cipher
playing on apac servers right? 😮
solar pulsar
keen plinth
@flint cairn 1. Your resource generators are automatic. They build up to their storage limits as long as your resource storage isn't over it's limit. Raids on bases that have already been drained down to their protected storage will result in any resources these generators made since the last hit. That is what you can pull out of abandoned bases that never repair.
2. How do you decern an ordinary player from one who is willing to pay for them? You can't offer different prices to different players. It is already put into motion that the more you spend, the more expensive the packs get so this should eventually cut them off.
3. There is no recycling, but if you are referring to the refinery, it doesn't take a whole month to build anything. I've been playing since December 1st and have made it to level 19 without paying for anything. You just have to mine more and refine more to get the uncommon you need for higher construction levels.
nova sierra
Doesn't take a whole month to build anything? Lol that's adorable, come back when you are lvl25+ and let us know how that's working out for you lmao
At 19 you will just begin to feel the burn, give it a couple more lvl's and you will experience the true pay to play nature of this game.
Basically 1-20 is the free sample to get you hooked after that scopely is your dealer and packs are meth.
Yeah...nope
inner plaza
@nova sierra do you have better packs in store aswell or just better refining rates??
nova sierra
Lvl27 ops is bad enough for me...still need 93 uc ore, haven't had a single one since dominion started
tepid dagger
nova sierra
Packs get better as you level up, but I got my g3 through other avenues
inner plaza
so u got the same packs as release servers then? 😏
nova sierra
Founders server has different refinement rates and get better mat drops from hostiles.
So you can grind.
Packs at 36 are 120/12/6/6
Which is much better than 28
But it won't get you a maxed faction ship
nova sierra
120 uncommon, 12 rare , 6 rare, 6 rare
So station pack is Ore oriented
120 ore uncommon, 12 rare ore, 6 rare crystal, 6 rare gas
150m parsteel I think
So it is far less expensive for me to upgrade common ships
But not a huge benefit for faction ships.
wheat oak
lvl 29 is 110/5/2/2
nova sierra
Sounds about right.
Big rare bump at 36
But uncommon costs are still very much a thing and the uncommon difference is less than 10%
inner plaza
ah ok
nova sierra
Correction, 35/36 the same
wheat oak
yeah changes every 2 lvl iirc
nova sierra
Oh yeah, and 450m par. Not 150m. Keep messing up my levels
calm root
Lol 35d build time...
nova sierra
Latinum lets you control time
sturdy canopy
anything known about maintenance on eu and us servers?
calm root
Nope. Not yet. Waiting on official word
wicked jetty
Been delayed until they fix the cargo issue
nova sierra
The news are old :-) we spend time for fun in game, some of us spend obscene amount of cash too. The devs mess up the game each 2-3 weeks just to drive peoples nuts.
vivid fox
@calm root, is this the place to comment on daily impracticality?
calm root
Comment like give feedback? Yeah
vivid fox
Thx
The way dailies are structured on our server requires multiple researches or upgrades to meet them. At 19 the majority of items, of both kinds, take +12 to +48 hours. How is one to get 2 or 3 of the same type of activity in such a situation? Same is tru for many events. Ptp for speed ups or Lat seems to be only available method, if the rss and mats are already on hand inviting a base attack.
calm root
Atm pay to win is only option for many dailies. Example is 500k officer exp at level 22, I've current got around 100k collected passively over the last month or so
I personally ignore the dailies unless I'm about to level a ship or officer, then I'll wait for a daily to get a bit of an extra bonus
vivid fox
@calm root, thank you for confirming. Are you aware of whether the Devs intend to adjust this so the f2w players can also accomplish dailies with some consistency?
calm root
The only word I had from them was via support saying it's "working as intended" so I wouldn't expect it to change. Would love for it to be attainable for f2p on a more regular basis but hey I'm a dreamer haha
Doesn't hurt to remind them here tho. I remind them about warehouses at least once a week haha
vivid fox
@calm root, what is the appropriate method to lodge a complaint on the matter, or others?
calm root
In order of value:
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Surveys
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Support
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Here
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Social media spot
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let me or @solemn coral know and we can add to the feature tracker https://stfc.key2peace.org/
vivid fox
@calm root, thanks again.
vivid fox
@calm root, that is a very interesting site. Would any benefit be gained by allowing members to vote up or down on items?
@calm root, a second one I didn’t see is Faction dailies to take down specific levels of other Factions ships are far beyond the reach of many f2p players.
calm root
I believe @solemn coral added polls, but I can't see the voting system atm
vivid fox
@calm root, have to pick between ships upgrading and modules. Uc rqmt makes that a long term decision.
@calm root, thanks for adding and checking. Next on my todo list is creating an account there.
calm root
yeah definitely, the resources available really make you have to choose to either level your ships or station but doing both at the same time is next to impossible
pallid peak
I always do ships first so I am not outclassed by leveling station too fast
wicked jetty
There's soft caps built in. When the ship upgrades seem to get obscenely expensive compared to your refinery output it's time to level ops
pallid peak
Yeah it seems to be around tier 5 ish
vivid fox
@pallid peak, I understand that approach. The challenge for me is that the refinery gets better as it levels. It can’t level past Ops. Time to 300+ uncommon is not predictable. Over halfway to being able to do jump to 20. I can keep focusing on Ops or upgrade Talla, only 1 laser. Last dozen ore refines yielded no uc, 3k each, but crys and gas are doing well on uc over same time.
@pallid peak, going to be outclassed anyway because the further you go up the more whales can reach you.
pallid peak
Yeah I leveled rapidly to increase refinery around there also. Now I am at 26 focusing on leveling ships because no major refinery milestones are upcoming. 20 was a huge jump and 26 was also huge because you can buy rare crystal from packs at level 26. Now I am in no hurry to level up ops
Yeah and the more pay to win ships you unlock also
calm root
Phew, finished moving over the reddit suggestions to the Bug/Feature tracker: https://stfc.key2peace.org/view_all_bug_page.php?filter=5c818ae286076
If peeps have ideas, we'll try to add them if not on the list but feel free to tag me @calm root or @solemn coral if you don't see something on that list
pallid peak
@nova sierra @potent cipher great balance 👍🏿 I am level 26 fyi
inner plaza
wow i cant believe it went through with one go o.O
and took like 0 dmg wtf
with such a shitty officer comp... i dont get it
cinder garden
Just seen the new daily/monthly store packs. Does it limit which packs are on sale depending on how much you've spent? I can see the £92.99 & £46.49 packs, both of which is more than i'll spend on a whim. That's elite/choice packs - does it hide the 'normal' pack or is there not a £23 pack? I'd consider buying that one more regularly!
It feels like because i paid £46 for one pack once, you're limiting what's shown to that or £93 for anything in the future. I'll spend a lot less this way!
lament umbra
Just fyi for your customer support team telling some one to clear their localization and restart the game after they told you in the inital message that they tried that is anoying and dosnt solve a thing.
limber sparrow
I’m struggling with spending more at higher levels when wondering what’s left to do in the game. There’s no long term alliance goals related to benefits or resources. Death has no meaning. Raiding isn’t really beneficial when you already have gobs of resources.
distant ivy
Your sales are not very good when I only see $100 packs but others in my alliance see $50 packs.... and no $20 packs... I have bought a few $50 and that was from Christmas and birthday otherwise I have bought a lot of $20 till you took them all away. Guess you don’t want money from players who have a tight budget... cause you don’t take us into consideration at all with packs. @potent cipher
calm root
Would be nice to have some info on these new packs, hopefully soon :D
wild dagger
The key to a good PvP game is to provide incentives for the three basic player/team types: sheep, wolves, and sheep dogs. This game lacks incentives for sheep dogs and has very little incentives for sheep, just the power leaderboard. Instead, it encourages mainly wolf/pirate behavior. If you could add PvP game play for defense, that would add the sheep dog element and go a long way to balancing the alliances. For instance, if I could select a mine or a base and tap Defend, then any raider would need to first destroy my ship before being able to raid the miner or base. A defense leaderboard would provide an incentive, as well as adding something like defense XP that could be transferred to officer or ship xp.
covert sonnet
Where are the whales?
calm root
I think the whales are wolves in this analogy
warped flax
Any android users showing the $4.99 packs only? Friend is apple user and has several $99.99 offers.
calm root
You start with the $5 packs, then you unlock the $25, then $50, then $99. You can only get them once afaik except for the $99
heavy quail
Yea this seems fair as to why buy packs for other people
One hit no notice of shield all gone
wild cradle
So, the one way to earn some free stuff now gone? I suppose you need to spend to reach lev 3. Good way to speed up people leaving the game scopely.
twilit slate
force close and re-open the game @wild cradle
solemn coral
@potent cipher in regards to your issue (exterior view with interiour shortcuts), it is kinda similar to the image I based that borg style image on, objects remaining in memory still getting rendered
anyways not at home office today, so I gotta go 😉
valid heart
Is there a chart somewhere for the levels in pvp. I’m at lvl 18 now, can’t hit a lvl 14 player but a lvl 27 can hit my alliance member who’s lvl 19? What’s up with that?
valid heart
Lovely thx!
nova sierra
Why are the cheaper chests for this event not showing????? My spending limit is 50. This is incredibly frustrating that store events are now all 99.99 ones. Im never ever ever going to spend that amount. Your model is broken, you seriously need to offer cheaper packs to all players.
gloomy oasis
Give a man a fish vs teach him to fish @hushed swift hahaha
hushed swift
Exactly.
gloomy oasis
I need to save that link somewhere i can easily get to it
😂😂😂
hushed swift
Its in the commands channel of HMP
harsh lagoon
@gloomy oasis ^^ just ask 😛
neon linden
@nova sierra for what looks to be some kind of subscription model it is kinda pricey, isn’t it?
nova sierra
I dont mind spending 50 a month. Thats my upper limit. It is frustrating when they do these events and i cant participate. As a result i just raid bases of people who do to steal what i can putting them off ever buying packs again
sour briar
wild goblet
Did the update happen for US servers?
potent cipher
delayed to early next week, once apac quirks are tackled
we'll update our comms and schedule accordingly, when we have 100% flushed out details
thx for holding
nova sierra
Maybe you guys look in meantime at the mines bugs also, and quite few spots of planets where people turn invulnerable to attacks
But, I doubt there is any rush in making the game playable to this maniacs, atleast if there are plenty whales to milk them on sales 🙃
potent cipher
dodgy planet known, zevis mainly (if other known ones, please do say) in scope to be fixed in upcoming client update
mining buffs currently under fix (apac done, eu/us to follow)
mining nodes next in line
nova sierra
I know other two spots in game of invulnerable peoples
inner plaza
this planet is a client bug?.. u sure? ...
potent cipher
please @nova sierra , in need of eggplants here. ^
ah, there you go.
I'm sort of easy to be triggered, careful 💃 🔥
inner plaza
you can send attack command to server, the battle does not take place because of server not wanting to, can't possibly be fixxed with client update
nova sierra
[S:1154764176 X:496.7432 Y:5.387402] here is one
potent cipher
you may well be right, though the inital report from devs I got is that it'd be pending a client update, may well be a correlation of the two there
@nova sierra name please
@nova sierra please do read your PMs.
cinder garden
Any feedback on the new monthly sale packs being based on what you've spent already? I'd buy a £20 pack a lot more than 50 or 100, butt because i have spent 50 once it looks like all the £20 items are hidden forever more.
nova sierra
And second base invulnerable here [S:1494550660 X:370.2065 Y:249.2093]
@potent cipher one spot on Klaus australis system by the planet Soyoc
@potent cipher do you speak on behalf of Scopely?
And other one on system Rakkaun by planet mujen
potent cipher
@nova sierra thx for the reports
nova sierra
Cheers.
Hope somewhere by the end of 2026 when I'll be able to have my Kumari this bugs will be fixed :-)
I'm curious...what do you call someone who mocks people, but when he is being mocked, he hides behind his position and threatens with banning?
potent cipher
let's nopt go down that rabbit hole and move on please. nothing productive to be achieved with this convo imho 😉
nova sierra
@calm root that would mean that Scopely is allowing him to mock people
JB can give as good as he gets 😈
calm root
Aaaand blocked
potent cipher
i challenge you to get testimonial i ever mock a player. I'm here to help you folks.
while, sure, i allow myself a bit of humour, we're all humans
nova sierra
@calm root whenever he disagrees, he uses the snowflake emoji...and yet i am the troll for doing the same?
potent cipher
now, next order of business 💃
calm root
Appreciate you JB 😉
deft patio
@potent cipher are they ever going to fix the uncommon drop rate. If they don’t no one will be able to build, upgrade or research as need uncommon gas, ore and crystal.
calm root
They mentioned They re working on the math behind uncommon / refinery rates
deft patio
Three days of refining and only got 1 rare, rest common
solar pulsar
That was one of the questions and answers
calm root
No target date, just working on kt
potent cipher
there's a post refining bonus we're working on, should roll out post mining event to bank on hoarded resources then
deft patio
Is there a new faction coming?
potent cipher
🕵
nova sierra
🤞 #FerengiFTW 🤞
neon dagger
Ferengi is Scopely's faction only
neon dagger
<insert strip of latinum here>
nova sierra
@potent cipher hipothetical...if one other faction is introduced, does that mean that it would come with virgin systems? 😁
And by virgin i mean where no man's hand laid its foot
U pervs
Why on name of God do you guys wanna have even more bugs on already broken game 🙃 🤔
It's been a obviously broken design for me since second day when I play it, when I understood it's a resource gathering game with extreme depraved resources earnings from gameplay. Just to make peoples to buy those packs.
You can't have for example an event of mining, when in game aren't enough spots to mine the raw materials, while allow the mining ships to be smashed back into the drydocks for absolute no reason at all.
Like you can't ask for a mission to kill way beyond people powers NPC's for little to no rewards.
And, you can't ask for resources swapping mission in negative balance.
This game will continue to follow same type of principles as much as the whales keep spending obscene amount of money for keeping ahead of the gameplay.
Good thing is from all this mess atleast on my server even most maniacs of p2w guys hit the wall of " hell no more " somewhere close to lvl29 🙃
calm root
Idea: allow purchase of smaller packs indefinitely even if you go up a tier
nova sierra
Ofc, peoples eager to spend even more cash on already broken game :-))
I swear the refinery is programmed to know what you need most so you get the least of it...
Been 100 uncommon short of my R&D upgrade for a week, and in that span I’ve gotten 10. Nothing but 15k refines. While my crystal and ore are getting 10-20 every time.
lost tide
@nova sierra Kind of like the recruiting only gives me shards for undeployed crew members that I don't use. 😃
nova sierra
Or for crew I already don’t have enough xp to promote...
lost tide
For fun, I'm going to switch out my crew with all those folks and see if I get shards for my real crew.
solar pulsar
@lost tide I don't think it factors in. I get shards for officers on active crews as well as ones that are max shards
the ones that are maxed on shards are converted to exp
lost tide
I know, I was kind of kidding. Wasn't going to waste the time!
solar pulsar
Well, things like that are never bad to test out to get insight into the formulas
zinc drift
Is there anything you can do about the constant spamming on the galaxy chat?
carmine jay
Use Block feature
nova sierra
One of the nicest things about being on a pre-release server...no lat spam
nova sierra
1k lat just sign up for these services that will cost you more than the smallest pack
potent cipher
😼
solemn coral
@calm root did the change work? must be, since you've been quite busy 😛
calm root
Haha yeah, plopped like 40 new requests from the reddit, so it's all moved over and I'll only be adding to that
calm root
Now we have Suggestion/Feature/Bug tracking synergy!
solemn coral
Thinking about a fourth
submit only and only visible to admins and or 'project' leader
the posts in there
"Support Griefs"
calm root
yeah, might be worth tracking or pulling for Panic/JB to review if they miss one from here
solemn coral
and Georgie, was more thinking about the CSL directly
@potent cipher any pro/con in your opinion ?
prisma scarab
Hey some of my alliance have got a free chest some haven't including myself what's going on ??
calm root
@prisma scarab seems to give you free chests based on how much you've paid so far, around $20 or less for the lowest one, around $50-100 for the second one, and $150-300(tbc?) for the third
prisma scarab
Well I have brought a pack the other day ??
calm root
yeah definitely need some official word, atm we're guessing as to the free chests
*guessing/speculating based on what little we've seen
prisma scarab
Well this game is really starting to get on my t*ts lol
calm root
lol
fathom copper
@potent cipher higher droprates on hostiles chest are needed. 33% or lower is pretty bad, when most of the cehst contains BP i dont need?
prisma scarab
@potent cipher any chance u can let ppl know what's going on with the free chest etc ??
fathom copper
You dont got one?
prisma scarab
Nope
hoary saffron
Took more than 7 days just to get 300 2* uncommen gas to upgrade R&D to L19. Now its crystal for shipyard,. Also need to get 600 for ship upgrades. This results in a cycle of mining, constant attacks an waiting hours for the refinery just to get 10-25 uncommen crystal/gas/ore. Then hitting a couple hostiles fot the day...surely there must be more to this game? So for weeks there is no building or research just because of a lack of uncommen materials? Whats the use, nothing to keep the interest going here
fathom copper
You dont want to see the droprates of G3 then.
calm root
Lol
fathom copper
Problem is that it is G3 uncommen is why ppl spend, you cant even buy it with Latinum, and Latinum is what you get when you spend.
The two major problem in the game atm G3 uncommen droprate and droprate on chest from hostiles
lvl 30+ hostiles the droprate are lower then 20%
distant ivy
@calm root incorrect cause I have put around $500 or so into game total and I got the lowest chest
calm root
so you got the top tier one yeah? the pink coin
distant ivy
I am used to things listed from common to best not other way around
calm root
yeah for sure
distant ivy
But this is scopely who can’t even manage packs well and removes the $20 and for events eventually takes away all but $100
They got my $500 now they get nothing cause no packs I can afford are ever there anymore
calm root
yeah, hiding the lower packs after initial purchase is a bit lame atm
distant ivy
I will just continue playing and hope they figure out they would make more money by putting the $20 back in
They put it in they get my money lol
fathom copper
what lvl are you Cyric
distant ivy
24
Lost the $20 around like 19
But lvl shouldn’t matter packs come with rss, speedups, and mats and lat
calm root
I don't really get the logic behind 'unlocking' the higher tiers, but that's fine. Though Locking the lower tiers as you go through them seems like something they should change. It really only allows for the super whales to keep purchasing
distant ivy
Yep only whales can survive and buy and than they just raid everyone till they all leave game
neon dagger
@calm root just not to show how greedy they are right away
distant ivy
In the future they will end up merging most servers since only whales playing
And than eventually it will be two servers left
calm root
I think it'd be funny to put all the whales into one server, it'd be such a blood bath haha
fathom copper
Those ppl are so retarded that they dont even know that a game like this need f2p
distant ivy
It would be interesting for a all whale server
nova sierra
I got 10 of those silver coins, and am way past $500
distant ivy
When scopely released road to survival it was same as this is for a long time til they figured it out
You would think they would have learned and started this one out with better pack systems from the get go
fathom copper
The balance of grind vs money is what will end this game
calm root
eh, it'll balance out eventually
distant ivy
@fathom copper yah if they don’t balance it you are correct
fathom copper
I hope they do, end off day the game could be so good
nova sierra
I have a really hard time to believe it needs figuring out. There are tons of similar games to copy good parts off. I just believe the game backend is built so badly that it makes most of the upgrades/updates either impossible or extremely hard to do without causing tens of problems
The game has probably the best idea I have encountered so far in these similar games. Too bad the execution doesnt play along
distant ivy
Yah they have a game with great potential and should have paid attention to games like it that are succeeding. Seems like they didn’t
nova sierra
I believe they did, but would need to rebuild the game engine from scratch to make it serve the need
Thats why they have difficulties to implement very low end upgrades and mostly are doing some UI box add-ons
calm root
yeah this game def has tons of potential, guess we'll see what comes with the next client release and see if they're still headed in a good direction
tho, definitely tapering your timeline expectations would probably help enjoy the game more haha, helped me anyways
nova sierra
My expectations were thrown out of the window back in december when I noticed they will not be able to ”provide”
If they cant introduce armadas during this month and a promise of server to server events within a given timeline (whatever it may be), I believe its the ”killall” command by next autumn
solemn coral
lol, a level 10 player mining g2 on kepler 😛
twilit tinsel
Yeah the game is pretty crapola atm.. those drop rates u mention are a joke huh
On average 3-500 g3 uncommon required for ship tiering ... you can see they are trying to listen lots of new resources being introduced... half our server quit playing
Apac server is totally toast now
eternal tide
MAYFLOWER- So I just heard from a player in my alliance , after speaking with @potent cipher that for those of us who did not purchase the mayflower during the event , it’s no longer available to us. My question is this... will we be able to acquire this ship in any way shape or form??
wicked jetty
When the event comes back around most likely
eternal tide
They could have it in the faction store and buy the blue prints with faction credits once your consort
If it’s not one thing it’s another. Many in my alliance are fed up so we’re talking about boycotting Scopely and not making any more purchases. Even their packs suck! After you’ve built your envoys you don’t need 2* mats and yet they put them in all the packs! So we’re paying for items we’ll never use! The end is near for many.
@potent cipher
outer steeple
The new ships say their blueprints can be obtained via faction store but there no way to do so yet
nova sierra
Ok, this refinery nonsense is getting effing ridiculous...
fiery sluice
It always has been ridiculous
calm root
It has been getting incrementally better!
distant ivy
Uh huh.... now you get uncommon maybe once or twice a week instead of once. I would say it was getting better if more like 4-5 times out of a week
calm root
Lol once or twice is better than just Once! Haha. But yeah fo sho could be better. Hoping the new math they re working on is more consistent
twilit tinsel
@eternal tide our server is the same... the lack of resources is stupid... there is about 3 players with over 1m everyone else has barely enough ... which basically means zero war
Scopely clearly dont have a clue how to make a game work
@distant ivy i dont even think 4-5 times a week would help.. atm for me 1 level you need around 500 of each g3 even at 4-5 drops a week you would barely level anything... our alliance is boycotting spending...
Perhaps we should start a boycott scopely chat to show group disapproval of resources in game
lament umbra
This is not an answer or resolution me attacking players has nothing to do with the game glitches also they have the date wrong its the 8th even if i het playera 65 times i still should have gotten a 5 min shield
prime ridge
I think what he is trying to say is if the 5 minute shield went up it would immediately come down as soon as you attack so perhaps it did deploy in the middle of you attacking someone else
lilac saffron
s/he needs to answer if the shield ever went up or not
wooden nebula
I do not share your outrage.
twilit slate
Right so the maintenance the other day fixed mining rates by broke protected cargo capacity and miner capacity, devs and support are aware of this new problem, but choose to not give a 💩. When asked for the lost resources if attacked, due to a screw up they have caused, they say they can't help. This is ridiculous, either a fix needed to be fast tracked or once again a rollback needed to occur, all we get is 🖕.
calm root
Please allow purchase of the different tiers up front vs paying your way to higher tiers, also keeping the lower tiers so you have options for a small mid or large purchase
twilit slate
How are these rewards worth what you are asking to be donated?
You have nerfed mining already and i somehow have to mine 1.5B parsteel, only to give it away? And for what, a measly 15k federation rep?
These donations should be 10% of what you are asking.
Why would a donate 3M tritanium only to get 1.4M parsteel?
You need to seriously rethink these.
calm root
They said they're gonna rework those to either cost less or be worth it in trade
twilit slate
When did they say that, I must have missed it?
And for the ones we have already donated to, to be able to progress?
@calm root
calm root
I can't remember if it was just in chat or in the qna but they mentioned what I said.
What do you mean your second question?
twilit slate
I have done missions already where I have had to donate millions to complete them to progress through, will I receive compensation? I won't hold my breath.
calm root
Unlikely. I wouldn't expect it
lament umbra
Please stop giving bp for ships i dont need i need 2 bp for my second envoy and i can already make 3 more if i wanted so stop giving me bp i will never use or give me a way to make them into something i will use
wide shoal
So when is this useless update for EU happening
lament umbra
@twilit slate have u seen the one for 1 mil dilithium?
twilit slate
Yes, may have already done that one though, what was it called again?
@lament umbra
twilit slate
Yeah i know, but it is def one I have already done.
lament umbra
I think it may be somonr hit 0 to many times lol
twilit slate
They must have a bad twitch then, they got it wrong in so many on them
lament umbra
O could see 100k still pricy but not horrible
twilit slate
I think before release it was more like 10k
lament umbra
That seems cheap
twilit slate
A lot of the donations were like that before release though
solemn coral
@lilac saffron about the shield issue, I do not know if they see that if the shield has actually been triggered
@twilit slate broken protected cargo is known
@calm root extracted some of the Q&A and placed it as note in the tracker for some stuff
brittle quarry
So reading the Q&A I believe that Scopely has no idea, how their systeme is working out for players. There is zero game balance and they are bubbling around about shields....
exotic pawn
Hello, is there an official statement from Scopely about the Elite Rewards, please ?
calm root
@exotic pawn nope. What's your question
nova sierra
Ofcourse it's is, just buy resources pack on a game about resources gathering. Perfect recipe for milking whales they catch with well done ads on social media 🙃 .
All their games do same thing it's seems.
Good thing is for those who actually like the graphics and storyline to some of this games it's sooner or later the whales stop spending obscene amount of money for a broken game.
calm root
Oh snap, I reported the bug to support and they gave me my lost resources :D :D :D dreams come true people!
chrome thorn
Find a way to penalize cyber bullies.
This game has a slight problem with that right about now.
solemn coral
@calm root check the drop down next to your username 😛
couldn't make it a category, in order to set view to private it had to be a (sub)project
analog ravine
When do you guys think they will be honest and rename the game P2P Star Trek Mining Simulator?
nova sierra
Query... why is there only the option to buy extra rss/mat for a build sometimes? And seemingly never when I most need it??
wicked jetty
You can't use lat for uncommon or rare material. You can use it for everything else @nova sierra
nova sierra
Naturally...
supple bluff
@delicate sentinel Scopley really have to do something to reduce the attack ranges of high power players. Lower power players are leaving the server that I play on, in droves. There are now only 208 players on this server who are active and over 200k in power. (I keep a spreadsheet that I update every Sunday morning, so I speak with 100% accuracy). Last week there were 254 players over 200k in power. ALL because of one high power player who raids bases of players 6 steps below his level, continually
This is not Star Trek Fleet Command ... it is Star Trek Fleece Command
gaunt osprey
I think the level band should be wider for ships (unlimited above lvl 10 on zero mining node) and narrower for bases. Thoughts?
nova sierra
@delicate sentinel does scopley intend to bring back an event in order to collect blueprints for the recent faction ships, I have 40 blueprints for the mayflower but no way to get anymore
solemn coral
@supple bluff we all know and want balance changes
you can state it day in, day out, for months if you want
it will only happen if the suits agree
nova sierra
When will the glitches with protected cargo be fixed? Thank you
solemn coral
new way of finding your server id, repair two ships and look at the top right 😉
calm root
You can report what happened to support and see what happens.
winter robin
How... Isn't that what this is?
wicked jetty
because no one here can press buttons to reimburse you. support can?
lilac saffron
upper right star trek icon > settings at the bottom > select any topic > "does this help you?" select no > follow the instructions given for submitting a report.
first take a screenshot your player ID, they will ask it of you
spice mango
This game should be renamed star trek glitch command
neon dagger
Star crooks*
inner plaza
@nova sierra
PLEASE FIT the income curve to the cost curve to keep the game interesting and allow progress at all stages.
Income vs cost ist fine for the first ~18 levels and then suddenly
the EXPONENTIAL cost curve gets completely out of control compared to
the LINEAR income curve (for uncommons/rares AND parsteel/tritanium/dilitium).
My refinery gives me roughly 5-10 uncommon of each mat per day.
My OPS 29 costs 300 uncommon ore.
A "building efficiency lvl 4" research costs 90 uncommon ore.
A single ship upgrade of my bortas costs 270 uncommon (at tier 3 that is).
So after spending 1500$ and reaching lvl 28, i need to wait 3 months for ONE building, ONE research and ONE single ship upgrade.
Or i can spend 600$ for those 600$ uncommon ore .. and get ONE building, ONE research and ONE single ship upgrade
and after spending another 600$, the costs grow even more while refininery stays the same, so the situation gets even worse.
And PLEASE reward active players for being active, for example by buffing drops from farming (buff uncommon droprates from pve chests etc).
Right now there is no point for me for farming, i killed 24k NPCs and i got one single uncommon.
All i can do is just log in twice a day to do refining and maybe dailies (don't even know what i would do those for since they dont give uncommon).
This will result in me quitting after getting bored after a couple of days
and this is not because i am easily bored, this is because of flawed relation between
income and cost.
Activity should allways be an alternative to paying for a long term playing playerbase and currently there is no alternative to $$$.
This is by far the biggest issue in this game right now,
everything else including broken officer abilites, balance issues and others bugs is peanuts compared to the fact that progressing becomes impossible
in a game which is built for progress.
exotic pawn
inner plaza
try https: instead
exotic pawn
Capturas de tela
inner plaza
weird, my bitdefender doesn't block it
exotic pawn
The same happens on my notebook.
inner plaza
maybe keenser will read it and take a look at it..
wide summit
I bet they know this full well
inner plaza
i'm not sure about this
wide summit
They're not idiots, people have been telling them that forever
Seems like a very intentional design
inner plaza
i don't know, i don't see the reason to make income linear and cost exponential, this can't work.
you could make both exponential if you want a big gap between payers and non-payers - you can just make the income function grow not as fast
wide summit
Depends if they're interested in the long term survival of the game
inner plaza
it's not about numbers being bad, its about functions being chosen badly, this i s a design issue
i think they are, why wouldnt they
wide summit
From what we've seen of their other games and the state of this one, they are not
inner plaza
maybe some don't care much but i think the devs do care
wide summit
It's management that matters
And from the state of the software and how they handled the mining rates fix we can see that either the devs are incompetent (which it's probably not true) or management is pure shite
inner plaza
yes but its not like they earn less if they fix mats-income. People will still pay the same to progress fast and you don't need to increase package-content if you don't want to, so that $$ stays the same.
it's just that non-payers can actually progress in this game if they want to.. could also convince them to pay here and then
i can't judge about dev's competency but it seems to me that this game could be far more successful. it is a cool game with some typical build/research coupled with some cool lore and some cool combat system with officers and ships to chose and stuff
it should be far more successful
wide summit
It could be far more successful if it was balanced and wasn't bug ridden
inner plaza
so clearly some decisions need to be reviewed and adapted
this is in the interest of all .. players AND management
wide summit
The thing is by looking at how the system behaves I'm pretty sure the entire back end of this game would need a complete rewrite, and that's way too expensive
Not even chats that are way more basic that the rest of the game work as they should
inner plaza
they were just a little bit sloppy i think, not sure if it needs a complete rewrite
clever agate
@inner plaza i completely agree with all that you have said.
I also see that scopely only see £€$¥ signs hoping that people will pay or continue to pay up to progress.
inner plaza
$ is a valid motivation for a company, doesn't mean you need to make a good game bad
wide summit
From what they've done so far their businnes model seems to be: acquire famous IP (Walking Dead, Star Trek) - > make a cash grab game - > let it die
inner plaza
but why let it die
wide summit
Because it's more profitable to move to the next big IP I guess
inner plaza
is it tho, huh
if you look at EA's star wars - galaxy of heroes - they exist for 4y now and they managed to have a good enjoyable bugfree (mostly) game which has a healthy economy
and this is EA...
linear cost, linear income, linear progression, every player at every stage can enjoy it
they take over 300$ for one single charackter (and there are around 150 in the game) and nobody complaints
because you can also unlock them over time for free
this is not possible in star trek
gloomy oasis
@nova sierra hey i got a quick thought? How do you ensure the armada doesn't get used as against smaller players? And only against the "big boys" i mean won't there be people that just.... do it for shits and giggles?
nova sierra
I just suppose you are one of those who can't held hes breath to get more bugs added in game and thinking someday will have armadas there 🙃
Optimistic 🖖
gloomy oasis
Dude.... this is a game, about a syfy series.... about outer space.... if we don't use our imagination here.... (and figure out possible issues and stuff) where can we? ^_/
lilac saffron
Armadas is gonna be ship and crew lending within the alliance @proud musk so anybody smaller than you (or you yourself) can use the ship in giving someone who deserves it the smackdown or defeating that yellow hostile thats out of your attack range
proud musk
It's not the yellow or red mobs I am worried about..
coral zenith
Can anyone tell me how many faction points you need before your rep is high enough to use the faction store
outer steeple
5k
lilac saffron
each cap requirement is stated on the rep bar and they match up with each available tier in th faction store
cosmic knoll
So armadas will allow a lvl17 to borrow a lvl25 alliance members ship, to smack down anything a lvl17 can touch? Sounds broke to me
hushed swift
@cosmic knoll we arent sure how armadas will work just yet. We know its about borrowing a friends ship, whether that can be used for pve or pvp is unclear.
lilac saffron
keenser mentioned bringing the smackdown to another player lol
hushed swift
Would have to think they would have some sort of restriction, I could go get my friends two mil ship and slap someone silly if that were the case.. who pays for repairs? So much up in the air..
lilac saffron
hopefully not too much
hollow dew
I hope I’m not paying the repair bill @hushed swift
hushed swift
😁😁😁😁😁😁
wide summit
thought armada would be building a fleet out of small ships?
gentle shale
@hushed swift - so yo best of your current understanding armadas are internal to a single Alliance v. cooperative activity w/ other Alliances? Our server has multiple Alliances that share variations of the same 4-tag and there’s been banter on whether the Armada would help communications/coordination for those super-Alliances. Thanks!
hushed swift
@gentle shale Im just hazarding a guess from the q&a’s Ive seen, one before launch and the two since. I can’t really give specifics because all we know is you get to borrow a ship.. how it will be used or implemented is all down to Scopely. Wish I had more to give you. 😊
gentle shale
That’s a good enough answer for me.
raven fossil
Sell the North Star or Keira so some of us can slightly even the playing field. Game gets old when you keep getting attacked and beat up
drifting bolt
@potent cipher @delicate sentinel Still no word when APAC Server cargo protected bug will be fixed? 4 days already and no life sign from Scopely??? Why can't you repair simple aritmathic in this game??
calm root
I hope we hear some news Monday about stuff
supple bluff
@calm root
Which Monday?
nova sierra
I believe Armadas will be a form of attack, where one player invites others to join an attack within given time frame. When the hit has landed, they’ll return to owner. With armada, the strenght of the ships is combined but I believe the officer traits are only the armada leaders.
All within alliance, of course.
Optimistic people🙃
nova sierra
Didn’t say when it’ll happen 😉
nova sierra
2022 😉 lul
keen plinth
I remember once somebody said when they reached neighbor status with a faction, they bought this and all it had was some sort of Commendation token. Can anybody please expound on that and tell me about this token? What is it used for and why would I want to spend faction credits for one.
nova sierra
@keen plinth it's a token that is needed to progress certain storyline missions, buy only as needed
keen plinth
@nova sierra Thanks.
torpid current
Please put the NS up for sale again. I am extremely unhappy that there has not been a second chance to buy it.
gentle shale
Ditto for Jelly
daring hornet
@delicate sentinel I know this keeps getting said, but it needs to be said again and again: the refinery needs to have a rework, or it's return rates severely buffed. Refining 12K G3 materials (two batches) gets me maybe 30+ mats if I'm "lucky", though that's also unlucky because that means I didn't get any uncommon or rare ones in the batches. I understand that you can't just give a straight 12k -> 12k conversion, but being generous and giving 40 common for 12k refine, a ~.3% rate of return is... more than a little rough. Again, being generous getting 20 common for a 1750 refine, that's only a ~1.1% return.
I know you need to have "gates" in certain places in order to keep everyone from hitting 50 in a week, but that's a little bit too severe of a gate. Yeah, it helps you guys make money, but at $100 for a pack that gets me half of a component upgrade for a ship... I'll pass. Something needs to change with the refinery rates, the pricing model, or both. I really like the game, and I'm a Trek fan through and through, so I'm not going to threaten to stop playing because that's not going to happen right now 😛 But, things need to change soon, or more servers and paying customers are going to just up and leave
tough beacon
Any word on these updates that have been put on hold.
gentle shale
@simple temple - I love you in the most non-romantic, HR appropriate way. Not only is the issue spot on but the consequences and further demonstrating the meaningless of responses.
Consider: as a 19 I can’t hit a 14 but a 31 can take out a 22. Power goes to the spenders.
@daring hornet - I’m not sure what’s been going on but my odds for 2* material refinement has suddenly improved. I seriously hope it’s a bug they don’t (know how to) fix.
daring hornet
2* doesn't seem terrible, but it's not exactly great either. I was specifically looking at g3 materials for my example though. I have been getting more uncommons lately, but even then, it's less than 10 per refine of 1750. to upgrade anything on my ships or certain buildings, I need hundreds
@gentle shale
I have yet to refine a rare material, through 4 ops levels so far
gentle shale
My uncommon for 2* gas been horrible compared to what is needed and, to your point, what is required. I’ve heard 3* is worse and 4* will be impossible unless you’ve achieved a balanced relationship with all 3 factions who have only 1 system with the materials but the gas, ore, crystal spread across the factions.
sinful glen
@gentle shale @simple temple as dumb as it may sound but at which level does level protectin stop? (I'm lvl 24 and I can't attack anything less than level 19 which is 5 levels less but the screenshot shows a 33 attacking a 23)
simple temple
13 & Under: ± 3
14: 11-17
15: 12-19
16: 13-21
17: 14-23
18: 15-25
19: 15-27
20: 16-29
21: 16-31
22: 17-33
23: 17-35
24: 18-37
25: 18-39
26: 19-41
27: 19-43
28: 20-45
29: 20-47
30: 21-49
31: 21-51
32: 22-53
33: 22-55
34: 23-57
35: 23-59
36: 24: 61
37: 24-63
38: 25-65
39: 25-67
40: 26-69
41: 26-71
42: 27-73
43: 27-75
44: 28-77
45: 28-79
46: 29-81
47: 29-83
48: 30-85
49: 30-87
50: 31-89
Pvp lvl’s
@sinful glen
sinful glen
ah that ius nice to know tnx! looks like they should go within +-5 level s instead of that complicated list
or as other games do: +-5 levels and the lower one can attack a highe rone with warning...but then looses level protectinon for a full day
simple temple
Personally I think with the massive difference in ship power it should be power based not lvl based, otherwise you are still gonna get hit by ships 10 times more powerful and the battle triangle is pointless
nova sierra
That mix and match of principles makes the whole PvP total mess.
Most of people get tricked into thinking they have to focus on the battle triangles circles squares or anything else that's actually important 🙃
And from there ofcourse all other headache
gentle shale
@sinful glen @rikki can’t disagree. Another ‘fun’ thing in my universe are folks =<14 who spend $$$ to level up ships to be über-powerful but remain low enough to not be open to having their ‘favors’ returned.
cosmic knoll
play the game as its designed, nothing wrong with turtling 💩
daring hornet
is it turtling if you never intend to go further than that? 😂
fathom copper
@potent cipher Are you going to do something about the chest droprate from hostiles, 3 chest from 18 hostiles today GG.
silk cosmos
remember that in a system, the highest level hostiles will drop greater % of chests
so if the top in that system was 19...
fathom copper
lvl 30 system only killed 31 hostiles
Worst is that i get BP´s that i dont need from like 1/3 off the chest, they have no value
nova sierra
Perhaps the most strategic of those lv14s are the ones that move to that "well known" and "cross-server" glitched planet -- an analgous bermuda triangle of a system -- that people can't attack stations. They go there to lvl to 15+. It's basically a perma peace shield that lets you PVP ships only.
uneven aurora
This game is a bloody joke whn it comes to uncommon resources 1700 g3 for only 6. Its a bloody joke
copper helm
I’ve gone a week with no uncommon resources, it’s ridiculous. They need to improve the rates on the refinery, it’s absolutely pathetic.
copper girder
@potent cipher @delicate sentinel Great job with the latest pack, it gives a continuous stream of uncommon and base resources reducing the dependency on "RNG hell" refinery, and raiding which is driving away midrange people from my server. We need more ways to get uncommons though, why not trade 2* for 3* say 50 to 1, that would help put to use all those 2* which I am just stuffing in the backyard now.
idle fable
Like that idea. As for pack if you ever gonna buy one, get this one. It rocks.
copper girder
people are quitting left and right because of immense paywall at 20+ and of griefing
undone sphinx
@Panic perhaps you'd like to look into this station that appears to only be attackable by the top paying alliance on our server. I think devs should not interfere in gameplay... But here it is.
hushed swift
@undone sphinx if you suspect something untoward is going on, ticket it.
undone sphinx
We've ticketed, emailed support, emailed scopely .. No response ever, so I am making the player base aware of it
hushed swift
I can guarantee you the devs aren’t interfering in your or anyone else attacking a base.
Makes no logical sense to do so first.
Second, they have better things to do then fluff about like that
undone sphinx
Only reason I can figure is that the alliance receiving help pays in the high thousands of dollars weekly
hushed swift
So, on our founders server where people have paid tens of thousands, we havent had this happen in over a year.
Its a glitch. And I will make panic aware to see, all I can do.
undone sphinx
Alright. Appreciate it. I'll submit the ticket with screenshots as well.
hushed swift
Thankyou. 😊
wicked jetty
@undone sphinx there are a few glitched bases that no one can attack, this could be one of those
ivory ember
Scopely is COMPLETELY UNSYMPATHETIC to the pvp unfairness. “There is nothing they can do”
One of our server members had a relatively long chat with support about it and that was the bottom line
calm root
They are lookìng at banding the levels a bit tighter
wicked jetty
well its true, there is noting support can do beyond pass the concerns on to the devs
queen ridge
<@&509691205798592532> <@&509690795536941056> @delicate sentinel any updates on the patch? Last announcement said we would all be informed “ASAP”
It’s over 5 days with no communication on what’s up with it, when it will be live, etc?
When you say ASAP, we kind of expect “ASAP” ... not 5+ days
calm root
Asap = as soon as possible, which I've always found a funny saying. Could be tomorrow, could be next week.
Probably be this Wednesday at the earliest
queen ridge
@calm root true, but it’s implied to not be 5 days. I’m not looking for the patch. I’m looking for communication- which they SUCK at
He should have updated us first thing on Monday with a closer eta
calm root
Eh, I get it. It does suck to be in the dark, but he's held back by other things and only able to say when stuff is confirmed. I work in software so I understand his position, doesn't suck less for us, but I get it
queen ridge
I’ve been a game dev since 1989 and worked for HUGE corporations over the years. I know about holding back, but no excuse for lack of communication. He could say “hey, the devs are still working on it. No eta yet. Sorry it’s taking so long “
You don’t have to promise a date in order to communicate
calm root
Lol, I have clients like you. I don't really get the point of the non update updates.
"Still working on it"
But Hey, to each their own. Nothing we can do but wait out
queen ridge
As a dev, I always communicate - even if I don’t have a date to promise
nova sierra
This game sounds more like one man army for me 🙃
Happy shoveling days, got a spot on bug planet 😆 mining like a boss without shields letting those cleptomaniacs to grawll at my resources😂
Hard with long target stations when it's to catch stations to steal
harsh valve
Soooo... Is the new release live now?
misty knot
@nova sierra would you happen to have a list of such bugged planets please? I’m looking for one too lol
solemn coral
@undone sphinx still there ? can you pm me the coordinates of that base, and see if it is planet specific/system specific or just that base itself by checking if the ui is (in)correct looking at other bases on the same planet and on other planets in that system ?
@undone sphinx also I would like to know which server you are on, so please if you are in battle anyways and two ships are damaged, try to repair both of them, triggering an error, in the top right you see an url, I need the number between live-<the number I need>-web.startrek
nova sierra
So I’m thinking a class action is in order at this point. Yesterday I was forced to purchase a resource kit for the item (read item) that I needed. Next my level 19 station gets hit by a level 27 player. No extra protection. No ability to safeguard resources. A lot of lip service to fans about this same issue. Time to bring the battle into the real world and Sue the shit out of the developers.
solemn coral
@APAC users: please check if you recalled your ship AFTER the update, and check if the protected cargo bug is solved that way
solemn coral
guess the patch got reverted entirely
nova sierra
@proud musk are you on APAC server?
proud musk
Good question. Same as JB.
nova sierra
did you have a maintenance break last week?
solemn coral
@proud musk could you try to repair 2 broken ships in order to get an error and post a shot of the error message ?
@proud musk I care about the top left part, you should see a number in the url
jb is probably on EU
nova sierra
@solemn coral 130
calm root
What happens if you don't recall your ships 🤔
nova sierra
Your bra size won't increase🙃
calm root
:O
nova sierra
And, you have to pay a fine of one crate andorain ale when you dock next time
calm root
recalls immediately
nova sierra
😂
proud musk
😁
solar pulsar
@solemn coral where are you finding your node number?
solemn coral
do a second repair while one is running
generates an error, then see top right of that error
solar pulsar
oh I see, thanks
solemn coral
yeah, hardly readable, but present
before you could use the invalid system id error
but they stripped it from there
guess they want to force you to spend resources in order to be eligable to know it 😛
inner plaza
@nova sierra aren't you founder server? o.O how is that 130 lol
or aint that your ss
nova sierra
it ain't me babe
inner plaza
ok 😄
solemn coral
cutout of @proud musk's shot
@nova sierra's id would be under 20 I think, he's considered inventory 😛
nova sierra
i'll check shortly
solar pulsar
Server 14 it seems
inner plaza
roger roger
solemn coral
@solar pulsar beta ?
solar pulsar
I started in November
solemn coral
so beta server id < 10 then I guess
solar pulsar
No idea really. Never heard anything about mine being a beta
solemn coral
you joined when it was officially opened, so I doubt you are
solar pulsar
But I’m not sure if the numbering convention. Isn’t @nova sierra on a founders server?
solemn coral
the 130 is @proud musk server
solar pulsar
Ah got it
proud musk
I used to be on a beta one. Guess I still am.
vagrant cosmos
We’re all still beta. You just can’t accept money if you admit it.
proud musk
Quiet, small and lively community.
solemn coral
they partially admit in the code to be beta
solar pulsar
It would be interesting to collect more node data and correlate it to that server’s start and the geographic location to figure out the numbering convention and to see how many servers there are
vagrant cosmos
Not to apple. T&Cs state no money til not beta
solar pulsar
@vagrant cosmos star citizen disagrees with you lol
solemn coral
you see the 0.543.9608 at the BOTTOM of the screenshot ?
solar pulsar
Oh to apple yeah
solemn coral
thats revision style version, <mayor>.<minor>.<patchlevel/revision>
mayor is still 0 😛
solar pulsar
@solemn coral yeah just saw that. The need to look@at the additional data string there. It is showing device info as well
solar pulsar
Yeah that’s what has me interested
I don’t think they intended to expose that data on that screen
We are probably seeing their error logging
solemn coral
there is no error logging
solemn coral
and the data in there is too cryptic for most to dissect, the readable data is generic
solar pulsar
Probably just correlates to sections of code it occurred in
solemn coral
regarding the last line, I think it's: <unknown> // client id hash // asset version (5.6.4p3) // client version // UNKNOWN // specific flags // accepted server gamecode versions to connect to // iphone or android // display quality setting (md/hd) // memory size category (low/high) // md5sum of gamebinary // utc timestamp
client id hash could also be the authentication token used to transmit the request that failed
calm root
Neat
earnest osprey
Is There any maintenance planned for eu servers yet?
solemn coral
no date released when they will attempt the update again
guess they need to sort stuff out after the apac disaster
solar pulsar
Yeah, after seeing the APAC mess, I wouldn't want them to rush pushing that patch to my server lol
solemn coral
they should deploy it on beta servers first 😛
beta's are used to buggy enviroments
thats what they volunteered for
solar pulsar
They could do a limited volunteer testing through test flight as well
for apple at least
vagrant cosmos
Cannot take money if doing that. They have gone for taking money
solar pulsar
It is a beta and you are limited to the amount of users on test flight
It is a completely separate app through test flight
fathom copper
@delicate sentinel @potent cipher are you going to do something about the hostiles droprates? The grind is already the worst i have ever seen in a game, and with the 20% or something like that chest droprate, and furthermore i get so many BP i dont need and cant use for anything is just😒 🤒
potent cipher
thanks for the input, as much as I hear it, this is the long term goal here, with regards to hostiles drop rates, while events, missions, dailies provide you with much more as a rule of thumb
note that the higher lvl hostile you take on, the better the loot (master of the obvious proof)
solemn coral
@potent cipher but in most cases, the loot ain't covering the repair costs
or with missions where you need to donate, them being unreasonably high compared to the stuff you get when finishing the missions
solemn coral
for example, I need to kill 25x level 19's with being 18 for the daily mission, the level 19's on Zhang hold 169 tri, killing them with the talla causes damage to the talla that costs way more then the 169 I am getting
just killed 5, got a total of 833 tri for those (according to my cargo bay), just recalled it, repair costs, 844 tri and 166 dili
red vapor
Thanks!
solemn coral
veel plezier 😛
fathom copper
@potent cipher Just saying if you dont want ghost servers all over, grinding need to be more rewarding, otherwise f2p will leave and then ad some point ppl that use money will leave to. The game has no group content like raids or gvg or anything, so atm grinding hostiles is the only way to "progress"
worthy belfry
@delicate sentinel when will there be cheaper packs in the store? I can’t do $100 or $50 at one time
pearl nexus
... it would be nice to know about an event before it start.. #WhatsNext??
solemn coral
they announce it shortly before the event start, you mean you wanna know way sooner 😃
fathom copper
It just seems like they want the player base to hate them
pearl nexus
Can you please for the.love of Spock.. move the recall button away from the locate button...
kind kestrel
No compensation for the week long cargo stuff up? Never seen a game managed like this.
solemn coral
@pearl nexus also having the 'fat finger syndrome' ? 😃
it's how someone else explained why he wanted it moved like you do
nova sierra
Friendly reminder that checking faction progress for research unlocks requires a life hack
quartz fulcrum
Ok I'm sure this has come up a million times, but can someone point me to the FAQ about the insane number of dead mines?
sage shuttle
@quartz fulcrum whats to know? the devs have no idea how to fix them
quartz fulcrum
They don't know how to fix dead mines
sage shuttle
my proposal is to set all the mines to something like 1mil so they would only need to respawn once a day
this wpuld reduce the number of dead mines
quartz fulcrum
if(mine hasn't had any activity for > 1 hr) then {reset}
mining is a competitive action in this game, if you have an empty mine for over an hour, I gaurantee you it's dead
anyway, I find it super hard to believe the devs can't fix this
feels like reverse surge pricing
not enough people buying packs
sage shuttle
yeah but if all mines started at 1mil then playoers would fight over them
quartz fulcrum
let's kill the one thing that slows the game to a halt
sage shuttle
noone fights over dead mines
quartz fulcrum
sure they just fight over the remaining pool
of mines
so the smaller you make the pool, the harder it is to play this game
sage shuttle
doesnt matter there are systems where more than 50% of the mines a duds
quartz fulcrum
correct
which means the total pool of mines is only 50%
so either fix the damn mines
or add more
sage shuttle
people will fight over mines all the time anyways
may as well have them all working
means they can merge more servers into one
so it cuts costs for them if they did it
quartz fulcrum
right now, mining is the absolute single worst part of this game
or should I say refining
both
sage shuttle
no refining is mining comes second
i have been mining g3 crystal (im level 24) and have yet to get just 1 rare crystal
been mining for almost 2 months now
quartz fulcrum
so it gets worse 😉
sage shuttle
i just need 1 to be able to tier up my ns
its holding up progress for alot of players
DEVS do not care
quartz fulcrum
Revenue
ok I get it
ok well, if I'm going to be stuck farming mines for weeks
just to advance a ship or to upgrade the base
sage shuttle
that Q&A last week was a joke they didnt answer any of the main concerns
quartz fulcrum
this game will get deleted, and I guess that's ok for these devs, because their assumption is that I would have never spent anyway
which is wrong
but cool
since i already spent, and I've spent more on other games, but this mechanic makes me question why I would spend anything on a game that gates you like this later
sage shuttle
right now to allievate the refining issues they could easily just reduce cooldown or get rid of it all together
it doesnt require a genius to know that
quartz fulcrum
I like the idea of mining and battling for position
they just need to make the refinery rates better
and fix the mines
sage shuttle
it would be a very simple code change, changing cooldown time
solemn coral
they just need to increase the spread of rarity, which is what the players really want
pseudo dagger
The refinery makes me want to quit the game... it's getting old a few days now with no uncommons.. I feel like that's all I do mine ore wait for refinery 2 times a day...
steel sierra
Fix the refinery i hardly get any uncommon 2 star and dont get any 3 star uncommon
sleek lynx
@potent cipher I would wager the artificial wall that is refining drop rates are why most people leave and continue to leave the game in droves. If you’re seriously considering keeping these rates the same the long term prospects are very grim for this game. Sincerely player on US server (14)
#lettheuncommonandrareflow
languid bison
@sleek lynx It’s a short term cash grab... look at the events. Alliance Domination is just a “who can spend the most” event. Same with the faction event - “who will drop cash in repairs to suicide on commanders” event.
Scopely has no intention of adjusting anything as long as people spend. They don’t want to make world class games. If we were to compare them to car dealerships, where Blizzard is Porsche, Scopely is that seedy used car lot next to the check for cash place offering a $600 a month 6 year lease on a Tacoma.
solemn coral
refinery is about to change several times during the next month(s)
so much about your complaint of them not adjusting anything
sleek lynx
@solemn coral lets not split hairs on degree of change. The fact is the refining drop rates remain abysmally low and have created a pay to win wall starting at lvl 19-22 that a large number of people do not want to climb. So they jump off and delete the game.
solemn coral
they are about to change
calm root
Are they?
I sure hope so. Otherwise I have to wait 12d to start upgrading my next building with the subscription pack I got haha
languid bison
@solemn coral they’ve “adjusted” several times already and it’s always garbage.
The need is pretty clear, they’ve been reluctant to address because they know it’s their profit center. Any adjustment they do make is going to be an inch where we need a mile, just so they can claim to have listened and acted.
analog ravine
So have they fixed the game? Scopley said soon. 😂😂😂
sleek lynx
@solemn coral so how will they be changed?
languid bison
Keenser mentions it in the Q&A
Lower level refineries will be made to return more consistent results
No specifics per se, but seems to indicate “fairness”
Scopely’s definition of fairness is not the generally accepted definition though
solemn coral
I think keenser's definition of fairness is different from scopely's
time will tell
languid bison
@solemn coral I hope your hope is the correct hope
solemn coral
I have lots of hope, but I know the journey towards it will be a long one
kinda like voyager series
solemn coral
I don't expect a company doing stuff the same way for 8 years to change it's operation in one day
and all the stuff I read about scopely online, tells me, it will be a very very very very long journey with lots of missions to complete
compared to that, finishing the game in it's current state will be a walk in the park
but the foundation is there, and I hope to be able to get things done
solemn coral
exactly
I live by the rule, you got a no, you can try to get a yes
and I can be very persistant
inner plaza
do you wanna continue my conversation with support about that kinetic research?
he is sorry for the confusion
keep telling them that my base dmg did not get increased, good thing it's just my confusion and no real facts
solemn coral
see, it helps 😃
analog ravine
So sorry for any confusion but here is how we calculate that:
- the speed of your ship vs the target
- the level you have versus target
- the angular drift of the planets
- the angular momentum of your ship vs target
F it all we care about is how much we scam you out of.
solemn coral
you forget some BOFH excuses like the effect of any solar flares emitted from the stars
oh wait, you did 😛
regarding chen, he should have looked at their own bugtracker, then he could have replied with that it is already known
analog ravine
@solemn coral I didn’t take into account Einstein’s theory of relativity in terms of the time I spend $$$$ and my chance of being able to play the game. Sorry. My mistake
solemn coral
P = SQRT($)
solemn coral
if you wanna compete against the p2w players, yes, if you don't care about them, no
analog ravine
I’m done with the game. Love (sad) coming here and listening to everyone hoping it will be fixed.
solemn coral
morning @hushed swift
hushed swift
Hey hey @solemn coral
analog ravine
@hushed swift thank you for all you do
hushed swift
😊😊
solemn coral
@analog ravine wishing you all the best, and perhaps we'll see you back when you turned old and grey and we finally succeeded 😛
analog ravine
I’m already there. I turn 60. I was in beta in the beginning but wasn’t invited to stay on. Too critical? Perhaps. But I wanted the best game that could be created in the Star Trek world.
solemn coral
well, that just might mean we achieve our goal sooner 😉
analog ravine
Someone, someday. Needs to create a great Star Wars and another Star Trek game. I have a plan but will take a bit
Right now it’s all about Langevin 16
solemn coral
ah, now I am happy, needed 5 uc 2 gas, and just got it, r&d 18, here we come
now lets hope I get 500 more g3 mined in the remaining time for the dailies to open the final chest
nova sierra
@potent cipher @delicate sentinel I trust you are both well. This picture has been sent to Scopely support. It demonstrates only SOME of the abusive behaviour from certain players on our server. These players engage in targeted victimisation, vile abusive homophobic remarks and blatant bullying. Such actions clearly breach your terms of service, however, these players remain on our server and are free to continue unsanctioned. I am interested to know why you [Scopely] feel this is acceptable behaviour and without giving specifics why these actions are allowed to continue? Considering you do allow these players to continue you are clearly complicit in their actions.
warm plover
Screen zoom reset - Opening certain menus or changing screens will reset the viewport to really close. This means wasted time resizing the viewport after accessing menus. Please change this.
solemn coral
@Cap report those texts ingame
@nova sierra select message, report, confirm, do it with all the offending messages
the issue here is there is no ingame moderation, so they rely on reports provided by players for that
and ofc, do not feed the trolls by even responding to that crap
if enough reports arrive, they will probably delete the account
you could monitor by adding that offending user to your blocklist, if he gets his account terminated due to violation of TOS, you should see his playername change to deleted-<some id> in your ignore list
nova sierra
Hi @solemn coral thank you for your message. As you will note from my message this has been reported via the in game message service by a number of players. Due to Scopely’s Terms if Service, which these messages clearly breach, they are unable to tell me what action they have taken. However, as the players are still active it is evident that no action has been taken. By posting the messages here I am seeking clarification from @potent cipher and @delicate sentinel as to why they haven’t been removed. What does it take to get these vile people removed from the game. They are having a serious and detrimental effect on many players. Their actions are at best a breach of the terms of service and at worst criminal through the constant harassment and bullying they do readily engage in.
solemn coral
they won't tell you what action has been taken
they are very closed about releasing such information, hence the tip of the blocklist, which is kinda the only way at the moment to see if account has been terminated or not
nova sierra
I am hoping to highlight the seriousness of this matter to them and elicit some general comment on why players who act this way are allowed to remain. I need to understand, so I can community to the many players being harassed on my server what actions they need to take to get these people removed. @potent cipher and @delicate sentinel need to take responsibility for the young and impressionable players in the game.
It is the height of irony that the chat doesn’t allow the word ‘gay’ yet it allows the word ‘lesbian’. Their is an apparent lack of care towards young players that needs to be addressed.
calm root
@delicate sentinel would it be possible to get 24h notice of the next major events? I see there's a st patty one starting in under 24h but idk what it is or how to prepare. Would be nice vs the mad dash to do X when it does start
*in 4h
placid rain
good thing that there is a 5h downtime tomorrow morning during the event...
calm root
Lol
swift quest
What are the chances of getting the chats to translate languages to your language. After all star trek have had universal translators since cpt Archers days in command?
solar pulsar
Oh god- auto google translate would be horrible for chat
Better to have localized servers
solemn coral
@nova sierra sure, perhaps they could escalate your specific case, and even with filters, there are plenty of ways to evade those filters
autotranslation ain't needed, as long as sender knows his range is limited in a certain communication, he will switch to a language others understand as well