@potent cipher @nova sierra waiting for over two weeks for one single rare 3*crystal to drop. Nothing. And I refine twice each day for 12k. That’s ridiculous.
#💬-general-feedback
brittle quarry
carmine jay
What level are you @brittle quarry ?
brittle quarry
24
carmine jay
Well,im 28, do x2 refine twice a day and have had 2 rare hits last month (since 28) and 3 in total - and have been level 20+ for a good 10 weeks
So yeah, rare are.. very rare rn
brittle quarry
At least you could buy them.
carmine jay
I can, yep. But I wont
Ill spend on things that I believe are fair value. 4 rares for £100 is not good value imo
brittle quarry
I agree.
thorn stone
@potent cipher Admirals need more management tools. We need activity trackers (to see who is inactive or not), we need diplomacy options (where we can assign Allies different colors on the map). Also I would like to see some historical data on Alliances on monthly/weekly Alliance events won. Maybe even monthly trophies to Alliances’ profile for Alliance Events won.
fierce flower
What I would really like to know is why difrent servers have difrent nodes max/difrent refine amounts for difrent lvls/difrent faction rewards to buy etc? are all servers basically have a difrent "difficulty lvl" for how easy or hard it is to advance, as if server per server we are some kinda experiment to see who complains about what so someone can have some kinda Data and eventually regulate it all throughout every server? Or is it more to mess with us in discord as more and more YT vids are out there from difrent servers we can clearly see that my server has a huge disadvantage when it comes to the things mentioned above.I cannot buy rss from my faction, i do not have 2 or 3 refining chances of each mats at the same lvl of the YT'er and our nodes have less in them and just generally less of them as well. Anyways thats my rant.
gaunt osprey
The bug with opening multiple chests is a display issue - after each chest opens, it shows you all the cards you got so far, instead of just the cards for the 2nd, 3rd, etc chest. The total count at the end is correct.
summer dock
Any plans on making it possible to salvage old ships.. This is useless having old ships in the hangar
plush bay
And again. 3 batches of 3* ore with zero uncommons with 28 lvl refinery. That’s 7 attempts that I know of.
Fkn joke
keen bobcat
@plush bay it's taken me a week to get 100 2* uncommon at level 19 to be able to build my R&D. Only just got the last 15 tonight. Haven't done any building for a week and haven't done and research in the last 3 days as haven't been able to do any due to R&D's level
plush bay
I’m not buying $500 worth of packs to upgrade one item @potent cipher I can recall 7, 3* runs of ore batches and not one uncommon. Not one. I want a game mechanic to burn this non relevant, non-stat structure to the ground.
Just remove the damn thing.
And say you can’t level right now. On anything. I haven’t hit my dailies in a week. Can’t upgrade anything. I am not buying the store
wise plover
Especially when said game has so many bugs it makes the amazon look empty..
civic ruin
It would be nice if we could store and generate up to the needs of research/station building. If I need 4 mil ps to add something to my station, why cannot my generators produce it ( over days or weeks ) and have that level of RSS protected. The current system is basically requiring us to shield until we can mine the RSS. 4 mill is a lot to mine considering that once my ship goes past it's protected level it WILL be killed for the excess cargo.
calm root
^^^
Yeah I have to mine for around 20 hours of parasteel to level up level 20 buildings. Nope nope nope
And for people including devs and support saying "well you can raid or do events", I can only raid if someone else mined for 20 to 40 hours and happens to not be protected (likely a few people), the events are random and usually require way more X than you can normally accrue in a short period of time, the daily events are a mere fraction of the many millions I need.... please increase parasteel mining rates, protected cargo for parasteel, decrease costs of buildings, and or increase our storage and vault sizes to be appropriate to what we are asked to dish out... @potent cipher
sleek lynx
calm root
Man I really hope common *3 numbers increase between 20 and 24. I male about 12 a day, so I'll only need 2.5 months to collect it :S
unkempt needle
burnt vector
@unkempt needle u only need post once., not like 20 times 😳
unkempt needle
Sorry just really cheesed off with them
dusty violet
@potent cipher So I'll leave some feedback in regards to what I perceive to be a major issue for the game. As a leader in a top alliance on my server, and a moderate spender, I do a lot of raiding. But I need to, because even with spending I'm constantly in need of even more resources, just to do basic things. So I spend about 90% of my game time scouring systems for targets, as does the other 69 members of my alliance. The other top alliance does too. After about two straight months of this we've essentially pillaged everything. Our galaxy is poor, and where we used to stick to regular scores of millions of resources now I'll find myself cracking open a base just to take about 200k parsteel and 50-100k Tritanium. I used to sustain on large meals, and now I need small, incremental gains just to keep up with upgrades and repairs.
That being said, I can see the effect it's having on the galaxy. Many people not in my position are demoralized, as we squeeze the few resources they do have and they find themselves utterly incapable of progressing. People are quitting at bottom end, which is making resources even harder to find, and making the top-end even more desperate. I have no idea what another two months looks like, but it won't be pretty if this trend continues. Please Scoplely, consider the in-game economy. The little guys need to be able to gain resources faster. In-turn, it gives us bigger fish targets. It keeps the entire risk vs reward, cat vs mouse game going and that's truly the charm of your product.
nova sierra
Exactly like 👆🏼
wide summit
Logged into discord to say exactly what @dusty violet said. People are leaving the game in droves
kindred cloak
@potent cipher wonderfully in two days not a single answer, but you have time to listen to Spoti
nova sierra
@naive garden hehe, but we have many players here how spend several k 😃
naive garden
ya know that saying....cant fix stupid
solemn coral
Seize the play(ers pockets)
this company seems to fail on every level of communication it seems
if you call the us office, you get forwarded to some stupid voicemail
if you mail through helpshift, you get templated answers from ppl who think you are just smart enough to start the app itself, no decent internal communication either, helpers are not aware of updates to the products etc etc etc
and if helpshift got fedup with you and advises you to come here in the hope to skip the need for them to constantly forward things, this turns out to be a dead channel too
@potent cipher that game you advertise in your avatar is known for ranting players getting the same bad treatmens since at least 2016
we want feedback too, this doesn't work one way
with attitude like that, you piss off users, until you piss off the wrong ones and face several attacks against your ec2 cluster ranges
which damages your image, amazon's, any other client sharing that range too etc etc etc
something you do not want to call upon yourself
it won't be me, but if I can figure out your infrastructure, then skiddies can too
if thats not already the case causing these increased lags and such since the past weeks
nova sierra
From my server I know in-game atleast 3-4 spenders already quited 😂 countless f2p players have no rss even for repairs & I think 3/4 of them If didn't quit they will do sooner or later :-)
calm root
@dusty violet well put dude! The lack of balance for the economy hurts everyone.
I keep telling @potent cipher and <@&509691205798592532> that it's the circle of life:
Scopely feeds the cows with better more reliable ways to build rss/decrease costs > whales feed off the now fat cows > whales continue to buy stuff feeding Scopely
gaunt osprey
@dusty violet agreed, as one of the medium fish in my pond I'm desperate to find bases in the narrow level band I can actually attack. If I let a shield down with any amount of rss showing, I'll immediately get a visit from a bigger fish. I wish my generators would keep working, the warehouse should be abandoned and only vault should exist, since warehouse clearly doesn't mean anything in terms of actual storage capacity
summer dock
Feedback/request: to see contributions done by members to allliance since joining.
Add salvage option for old ships regain 30% of materials
nova sierra
Hell 10% would do just to be able to open hangar space
summer dock
Indeed
hasty plover
@dusty violet @potent cipher Exact same thing is happening on my server. It's starting to get like Thunderdome. They need to immediately FIX the game mechanics, economy and the major glitches as well as stop restricting refining and compensate all players MASSIVELY in proportion to their levels. and by massively, I mean something like 10x $99.00 packs of your choice for all the problems that the players have had needlessly foisted upon them. Also why the hell can a level 30 hit a level 20 player? That's like kicking a toddler down the stairs for gods sake. I'm a level 28 and even I think a 4 up / 4 down hit requirement is a good idea.
gaunt osprey
Let's talk economy... In this game there basically is none. Trading ships float aimlessly around faction systems, carrying the same cargo as warships. Planets offer no resources to trade or harvest like food, water, or officer recruitment. Mining fields run out of resource only to immediately regenerate. Ships costing thousands of resources and many hours to construct are routinely destroyed, then rematerialized for a tiny fraction of the cost and no travel time with no significant salvage gained by attackers. The backstory on many ships claims they are mass produced, but you cannot buy used, you have to construct your own factory and then build one from scratch. Resources have no option for exchange aside from latinum, but that only goes one way and excludes rare resources despite the store description of latinum as being used to buy rare resources.
nova sierra
Really starting to get ticked off at you, Scopley. It’s been THREE WEEKS and not a single solitary UNcommon crystal NOR a single solitary rare crystal EVER! Yet you made it a requirement for the Northstar to tier. You are purposefully injecting a choke point into the game no one can do anything about. This is why a Great many of us have put in purchase disputes on what we have already purchased. You are failing to uphold your end of the purchase agreement on Northstar related purchases. Many of us are refusing to buy anything ELSE until you start fixing this stuff. Your failure to address any of these concerns raised by a large percentage of the player population is costing you players, and therefore revenue. Not smart business, Scopley. Not smart business at all!
gaunt osprey
Latinum: "used to purchase rare items". Cannot buy rare or uncommon materials.
nova sierra
And if your technical support response that this is working as intended is correct, then you are purposefully bilking money from people for something they can’t have though you say they can. The legal term for that is FRAUD!
potent cipher
thanks for the input folks
on pvp banding, i'm definitely pushing
re safeguarding ones resources, well acknowledged as well and some tweaks on the drawing board - should let you know in more granular details when it's on the launchpad
nova sierra
Stations are way to easy to take down,it should take an entire fleet to take Down even a weak station. There’s no way to see what your protected resource limit is taking into account upgrades etc if the top continue to hammer the lower level players there will be no lower level players left.yes it’s a pvp game but it’s extremely unbalanced and I doubt most people realised the way the game would be before they started playing
near dirge
Can’t raid a base with a shield......
nova sierra
Ask the owner to bring the goodies to your drydocks 🤔
For a game of farming/mining/resource.gathering to make the players to buy resources packs to grow it's just chaotic atleast to say. This is not an " star fleet command " it's just farmville with some other graphics instead of cows we have dilithium mines and instead of growing vegetables we have to click on tritanium yeld to collect.
I like the option to have to do something with the game while I'm busy in real life, but to reduce whole game to " mining / farming " ...
wooden grove
If your priorities are based on feedback then economy is number 1.. who cares about new features when the basic mechanics don't work. No1. Refinery.. improve drop rates, reduce/remove the timer, higher batch numbers etc! 2. Warehouses.. increase size in line with requirements, generators ditto.. vaults the same.. all 3 combined allows the lower players to recover /protect more/ regenerate and the bigger players some additional resource towards the requirements but also hitting bases worthwhile. 3. Mining rates need to massively increase on bigger nodes.. otherwise it's pointless mining them. 4. Hostiles need to drop alot more as their level increases, it's a negative return at 20+, 5. missions you need alot more of them and alot more variety and not stupid requirement levels. Actually make the missions so you have to think and actually work some things out. Yes people will always find a solution from others if they get stuck can't be bothered but you can at least make it challenging for those who do.
rare storm
Please communicate better. We’re bleeding high level players fed up with pay to play a broken game. Please put out a list your working on at least. E.g. dead nodes, economy balancing, drop rates, anything.
granite tulip
@rare storm Here's a list of what they're actively working on fixing:
Glad I could clear that up for you.
rare storm
Lol
Ok well after they get done counting their money maybe they could spare 5min for a to-do list. Even just fixing dead nodes would be a noticeable improvement
wheat oak
And frozen hostiles on some servers. I've seen one where ALL the hostiles in Rigel are phantoms - immobile and unattackable.
granite tulip
@rare storm The only thing they care about is money, not making a good or functional game for us to enjoy. There isn't nearly as good of an ROI on fixing the core functions of their game as there is designing and implementing new shiny things to buy or events that force the top players to try to outspend each other to win a pissing contest.
rare storm
That’s my point though. In the past week my alliance has lost multiple people ops 26-30. The f2p players are still around but p2p won’t put up with basic mechanics not working
If they don’t show progress there won’t be anyone left to scam
thorn stone
@potent cipher Admirals need more management tools. We need activity trackers (to see who is inactive or not), we need diplomacy options (where we can assign Allies different colors on the map). Also I would like to see some historical data on Alliances on monthly/weekly Alliance events won. Maybe even monthly trophies to Alliances’ profile for Alliance Events won. We also need In game mail for Alliances.
granite tulip
Heh, didn't see myself agreeing with you Atmo, but those are actually all good points.
nova sierra
@potent cipher Refining is still poor, I have now refined 300k of 3 star crystal in 10 days and have refined exactly 17 uncommon, and 100 normal which is in itself shocking, I am level 25 everything, and will be lucky to tier my Kumari at this rate in 3 months, the developer needs to rebalance the outputs and not base it on a rng, if there is anything in this game which needs immediate addressing it is this, please pass this along to the developers as there number one priority to sort or this game will go the way of the dodo and become extinct
granite tulip
@nova sierra the problem is that you thought you could build the Kumari
Unless you want to pay RL money for all of your upgrades on the Kumari, don't upgrade it. You have to choose between that, and your base.
nova sierra
@granite tulip I have kumari at tier 4, but can't upgrade it because of lack of resources which I have mined the shit out of
granite tulip
Yep, you have a t4 kumari, which means you can't upgrade your base
unless you pay
the more you pay to advance, the more you force yourself to pay later, or you bottleneck yourself with G2/G3 rss
If you speed up your progression, you spend less time at each level, which means fewer g2/g3 rss refined in that time-span, which means you end up frustrated at the amount of refining, like you are right now
You can't upgrade the Kehra either, unless you want to pay for the materials on that.
nova sierra
Base is ready to upgrade to 26, but after that unless I spend RL money I'm stuck, would be better quitting and putting my money into another game like Idle Heroes
timid rune
Turn the refined crystal back on, you turned it off and it will not give me any on over a week
granite tulip
Explorers are the only viable F2P option
@nova sierra How much have you spent so far?
calm root
Why are explorers f2p?
They easier to level?
@potent cipher game designer keenster mentioned you guys have a top 10 things you're trying to fix or work on. Any word of what those 10 things are? We know broken mining nodes is one
hasty plover
@potent cipher Yeah lets get back to this. Why the heck can't we buy rare and uncommon items with latinum? Refining still seems to be broke all to heck even after coughing up money for a north star. May as well fix this and make it work as intended. 😃 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509685973966389258/547106164295598081/Screenshot_20190218-092043.png
nova sierra
@granite tulip about £1600, stop spending after the update that basically killed the game, managed to get half it back on refunds from Google
granite tulip
Ouch, $1,600 and you're only 25?
I'm a hair shy of 23 as F2P
And that's precisely why you're having so many issues with your G3 materials. You spent to advance yourself without the foresight to plan your RSS expenditures.
nova sierra
@granite tulip spent most of it at level 23 and upgrading North Star
granite tulip
I just find it really silly that with all of the things that are actually broken in this game, the P2W players keep complaining about the one thing that isn't
hasty plover
@nova sierra @potent cipher I wouldn't mind spending the money but the core economy is broken, refining seems to be still broken, upgrade requirements are galactic robbery. If Scopely fixes these things immediately and offer the players a one time MASSIVE In-game compensation ( something significant like 5 or 10x 99.00 packs free ) and I think that will take care of 99% of the problems here and retain a loyal following. It's simple math to fix.
granite tulip
@hasty plover you clearly have no idea how the mobile economy works
Those things you're complaining about are exactly how they coerce their players into paying them. Fix those things and it's a better game, sure, but it's also nowhere near as profitable.
nova sierra
@granite tulip I have over 800k of all G3 materials and can't get shit when I refine it, I have players at level 28 who are the same and some reporting worse outputs than me, I need 3.5mil trit to do one upgrade to Kumari, it would take months to mine that, and at level 26 your supposed to get access to the mayflower and God know what that would be to upgrade
granite tulip
I'm sorry you don't understand the concept of RNG
is this your first mobile game?
Sorry, that comment was rude and unproductive. The issue you're having is the same regardless: You didn't plan for the eventuality of the G3 bottleneck
It's not the rate of refining that's broken, it's your expectation
nova sierra
@granite tulip oh I get it your a troll, that answers my question, I have been gaming since you were a spunk bubble in your daddy's pants,
granite tulip
Um, K
that doesn't make you any less wrong
You're complaining about the one thing in the game that isn't broken because you're not getting your way. Keep being angry about it and waiting for it to (not) change.
Meanwhile I'll surpass you in a month without having paid for anything.
nova sierra
Nah cause I will spend another grand then another because I can
granite tulip
LOL
you're going to continue to pay the devolopers your complaining about out of spite?
gloomy oasis
@granite tulip if this game is as horrible as you claim... why do you keep playing it?
granite tulip
There are lots of things in life that are terrible but still enjoyable
gloomy oasis
And apparently you plan to keep playing it for months. ^_^
gloomy oasis
Well then why not give it a shot in the dark that there is the posibility it will get better?
granite tulip
Miley Cyrus is terrible, but it's still enjoyable to listen to
gloomy oasis
What will it cost you?
granite tulip
@gloomy oasis Scopely has been in business since 2011, and they've been doing the same thing with
EVERY
SINGLE
GAME
why would they change now?
I'm just saying don't defend the people that are stabbing you in the back
They're being investigated for fraud and sued by the players of 3 different games.
nova sierra
@granite tulip of course I'm brainwashed and the aliens are making me do it
nova sierra
they added new faction ships yet in the faction store there is no option to by the blueprints for those new ships
calm root
Could you make that prime research also double warehouse storage? @potent cipher
pure nebula
Would we be able to get an info tooltip on base weapon platforms that indicates their damage type (energy if my battlelogs are any indication).
Also, can we see kinetic damage plat a bigger role? Outside of interceptors, and in small doses higher tier explorers, this seems to be the far lesser damage type in game at the moment. It reduces the value of crew who boost and reduce that damage type.
spare pewter
@nova sierra
calm root
Please remove vaults from the leveling up path @nova sierra @potent cipher it's next to useless and takes a lot of time and rss that could be put towards actually helpful buildings.
Also, when's the next survey. I have another essay to provide yall
Also Also, when's the next major update? I need to prepare myself with the appropriate anti depressants
Haha jk I'm sure it will be... something
smoky mountain
Basically, run the game the way Timelines is run. That's a damn good Trek game.
charred hemlock
@granite tulip I read your responses to people and I flat out disagree. A player should through hard work and being active in game be able to continually build and develop. This game has made that impossible. You don’t understand this yet because you can still build and research things without using uncommon mats at about 26 and on everything will require uncommon mats after lvl 30 it becomes rares. The refine rates do not allow for continuous growth.
green linden
The packs should be the same for everyone, regardless of level!
The North Star pack is not equal to everyone! Lower levels don’t get the rares while the higher level does.
viral drum
Yes. I am level 18, ns now level 2, upgradeable to 3. The 105€!! NS package include material for 2 level, for one more I have to spend all the latinum included. 105€ for 3 level? Too expensive. There a lot 2* ship stuff inside for ships, i use two more weeks maybe.
If you sell 3* upgrade package it should include lot more 3* stuff. Especially if you want 105€ after you sell basic NS for 22€. All over 127€ for a half ship, rly?
wheat oak
@viral drum for higher tiers on Kehra, Vahklas etc, you need more than one 100€ pack just to upgrade one weapon.
small fox
Hence my ingame name change to ScopelyIsGreedy
dusty violet
Correction, you need more than $100 pack to upgrade one weapon in any reasonable amount of time.
wheat oak
Correction is correct 😄
calm root
@potent cipher really hoping to hear my name or something along the lines in soon releases/info. The peasants and whales are starving:(
viral drum
@wheat oak ok thats rly crazy. Need Scopely bosses new Ferrari?
thorn stone
@potent cipher Admirals need more management tools. We need activity trackers (to see who is inactive or not), we need diplomacy options (where we can assign Allies different colors on the map). Also I would like to see some historical data on Alliances on monthly/weekly Alliance events won. Maybe even monthly trophies to Alliances’ profile for Alliance Events won. We also need In game mail for Alliances.
potent cipher
agreed. more to come on alliance management
dusty gale
@mint jasper sounds like u forgot to shield up and now u butthurt
Lol this bug has been around since game came out
U didn’t shield
Or if u did u send a miner out and hit someone
What does the timing have to do with anything
Someone could’ve popped ur shield in the past 24hrs
Lol u mad bro
I’m trying to tell u that u forgot to shield just admit it lmao. Happens to everyone
mint jasper
@potent cipher Can you explain why my five minute auto didn't proc and I didn't get a notification?
And why I'm now out millions in RSS due to what appears to be a bug exploit?
Because it would appear that the top clan on our server is ACTIVELY ABUSING this
People have thought "maybe I forgot to peace shield" previously
And didn't have logs because more than 20 attacks got in
Because these guys usually swarm. This time however they weren't able to get in enough attacks to hide it.
pallid peak
If they can charge us for resources and they let people steal them outside of normal function then they can make us pay for more. Seems clear to me
steep token
Same issue here
pallid peak
It is the worst bug in the game. Base getting attacked and not showing in the log (not in this case) just a side note
mint jasper
@dusty violet Anyone else on your end report anything like this?
dusty violet
Yep, actually two of our guys (CybeRev and Banic) had the same thing happen. They reported it to support and got a refund to the resources lost.
mint jasper
SSR?
dusty violet
No, Ghost the other week when they did their surprise attack shenanigans.
mint jasper
Is anyone in NEX aware of the tactic used for this?
dusty violet
Notifications are borked right now anyway. I'll get a "You've been attacked!" alert like 4 hours after a miner has been hit, while I'm currently playing the game.
dusty violet
No, not in any broader sense.
sleek lynx
@mint jasper it also appears to be happen on my server too. But every way I’ve been described it happens I’ve tried to duplicate and can’t get it to work. I still haven’t Screenshots or screen recordings of an active strike in progress. Attacking with a miner or attacking a miner has something to do with it but I’m not sure of the actual mechanics being used to possibly exploit a bug.
lavish sedge
Try this. Take two ships to the mine. Have first ship attack and see if you can get the second ship on the mine while they are circling each other @sleek lynx
zinc tusk
@nova sierra, @potent cipher, Any idea when the ship balancing will be fixed ?
IE: Nothing epic about the epic ones, easily taken out by common ships with alot less power.
(Same ship class - B/ship vs B/ship & so on)
nova sierra
155-075-5800
azure holly
@nova sierra do I need a star trek decoder ring to read your reply?
calm root
Someone try calling it
Is that a star date?
June 28, 1922 5:40 AM ? So you guys fixed it almost 100y ago? That's almost a self burn haha
nova sierra
@potent cipher your responses are nice to see, but the content is zero. Could you advice when the community management will take its place? Like a time frame - week, 2 weeks, 2 months, a year?
@mint jasper I got yesterday one station with no autoshield too. Cleaned like 1,5 mil RSS easier it's true. But most bad it's the bug where peoples can get thru shields. Like a week ago or so lost aprox 30 mil RSS while been shielded for 8 hours & gone to sleep. Some dude been cleaning me at 5am 😂
Anyway resources come and go that's normal I think.
Most nice feature in game is missions, I love them. There is no level, no matter how much money you drop in game, where you can complete given missions. It's most awesome job did guys from desing game did. That feature alone it's perfect recipe to develop If not have or to advance into personal masochism part of each players. If someone need to get driven nuts from your family & friends recommed them the game 😂 . Guaranteed succes.
Guy whos holding admiral on my alliance now, dropped like priece of a second hand car easy in game until now. Beside the fact he is nice guy he rides some nice ships, powerfull & so in, awesome. He posted a screenshot from one mission where have to fight 2 millions power npc 😂
nova sierra
@nova sierra those are bad...the ones i love are 2 types:
The ones u get at lvl 15-20, with prizes for those lvls, bit need you to be at least lvl 30 to complete them, which make the prizes received to be lower than the dailys
The mining ones, where you have to mine and give away, for ex. 250k dil and u get, wait for it, 1 mil parsteel!
I would like to meet the geniuses behind this parity.
Too bad they do not work with the packs!
@potent cipher on that note, can we give 100 yen for the 100 euro packs?
keen bobcat
@nova sierra can they all be priced in Yen rather then our actual countries currency?
nova sierra
As long as there is the 1:1 parity 😁
nova sierra
@potent cipher who comes up with these missions????
dusty hedge
People "on the spectrum" for sure........
north arrow
There are lots of players who demanded refunds and are now putting their refunds back into the game. As someone who did not request a refund, this seems incredibly unfair and I am wondering if abusers of refunds are going to be punished and or banned?
nova sierra
Btw, the parity currency is little bit broken also, I got the master packs at €105 after I changed the payments profile. I'm pretty sure that's not allowed by the google pay terms.
thorn stone
@potent cipher Admirals need more management tools. We need activity trackers (to see who is inactive or not), we need diplomacy options (where we can assign Allies different colors on the map). Also I would like to see some historical data on Alliances on monthly/weekly Alliance events won. Maybe even monthly trophies to Alliances’ profile for Alliance Events won. We also need In game mail for Alliances.
proud musk
Activity trackers should be top of the list. 😁
nova sierra
@proud musk do they bring in the cashies??? You think mistresses are cheap?
nova sierra
@proud musk read scopely's objective. They are only interested in the whales.
proud musk
There's plenty of more fish in the sea besides whales. Some are unnoticed, but definitely needed.
😁
nova sierra
@proud musk you're talking about a long term primary objective. Scopely is a short term objective oriented company. They bought the game and released it without it being finished and wothout actually knowing how it works
proud musk
Sounds like a resume needs to be sent. 😉
It had a poor start, surely. But they're trying to fix things, if not slowly.
Is it quick enough to my liking? No.
Am I impatient and expect everything here and now? Yep.
Either way, I'm still enjoying the community. We try to bypass the bugs we find and adapt.
mint jasper
Anyway resources come and go that's normal I think. Not when you've been saving up for an upgrade and have been shielding diligently
S'okay, that class action'll snap Scopely into gear
nova sierra
@mint jasper nope...they will settle, change their name, and do it again. It's easy money
mint jasper
Then I hope they like server downtime
nova sierra
I was talking about Scopely not the players who sue
mint jasper
Oh, so am I.
spring oyster
Hello everybody
carmine jay
Hello!l
spring oyster
Any ideas on that bug? Have it for 3 weeks 😭
solemn coral
how many slots free on destination planet ?
proud musk
Did you contact CS? What did they say?
Maybe station is damaged and needs repairs or ships are out?
nova sierra
Scopely's answer. So, if anyone hoped the missions will be remade...you're s@#t outta luck, cause they don't give a f@#k!
carmine jay
Name checks out 😬
nova sierra
They don't care about hate speech, as long as that player keeps paying them, so... you can be homophobic, racist, mysoginist...as long u got the cash, u can do anything
nova sierra
I'm just curious how the guys from the Star Trek page will react knowing that their show is being used by hate speech supporter in order to make money 😂
spring oyster
My station is fine. All ships are home. Have more than 10 tokens to move base. I tryed hundreds of free planets, even when its 10/14 free
Reinstalled the game, used new phone to play, made 100 clear in settings
Support says only wait wait we know thanks
tough beacon
Hate speech.... whatever... block the person. To come on this chat an pontificate about the moral high ground. I wonder if you have ever spoke “ hate speech” spare the drama and get a backbone. Bunch of snowflakes that need safe spaces and smell puppy breath so feel better about them selves. How do you navigate real life hardship....
I don’t need retorts about how I am insensitive or apathetic. I don’t like bullies and I don’t like” hate speech” but choose not let it effect me and we need to stop the PC spiral we falling down into. Be strong 💪
potent cipher
- use the block feature
- escalate to support
- more chat moderation coming later this spring
🙇
tough beacon
What he said
Back on topic... JB Scopely ... any updates on next event ... new ships.... some patch fixes... thanks
potent cipher
first D3 Class teaser has been posted
you might observe the same for other inbound ships each day until...
well until further announcement be made 😉
nova sierra
Really...so something that in many countries is illegal, the reason for many companies losing lots of money, the reason behind many resignations is "ignore it"?
@potent cipher how does the block feature work when the player uses hate speach in his NAME? Please, tell me!
potent cipher
this works through support's attention
they can force rename
hit them up with the case and they shall
nova sierra
@tough beacon there is a differen e between snowflake and a company allowing such hate speech to happen on their platform
solar pulsar
@potent cipher chat moderation would be great. I think you could leverage players to be moderators, with oversight of course
nova sierra
@potent cipher and the many hours till the support answers...well, tough luck, right?
potent cipher
troll aside, those intersted, or in the know of our other game, The Walking Dead, would know that we recently impelmented a new tech to auto moderate game chats
it's being tweaked on there, and will likely be ported on STFC at a later stage
👌
@nova sierra up to 24 hrs response time
solar pulsar
Auto moderation is a good thing- but it doesn't catch some really bad behavior
A couple weeks ago we had a player trolling another player who lost his child. He still does
Example:
nova sierra
@solar pulsar JB just said it "suck it up, snowflake"
solar pulsar
@nova sierra I'm not talking about general insults and trash talk. We definitely don't need to be PC/SJW/Snowflakes
potent cipher
in my other game, i would phrase it so, not risking it here, just yet ;>
solar pulsar
lol
nova sierra
@solar pulsar so being offended if someone calls you a FAG and with no possibility of ignoring him is "snowflake"?
inner plaza
i can say that for you
solar pulsar
Please do, otherwise the terrorists win @potent cipher lol
nova sierra
Interesting
inner plaza
suck it up snowflake and use your freakin block button
potent cipher
yeah auto mod doesn't pick up all, that's why support will always handle any potential escalations
solar pulsar
@nova sierra I think there is a lost nuance in the current generation- the difference between ironic posting and unironic
nova sierra
Are you guys not reading? HE CHANGED HIS NAME TO THAT! HOW DO YOU BLOCK A NAME? HOW DO YOU BLOCK A BASE OR A SHIP?
solar pulsar
Like for instance- Hey that is gay. Compared to - Gays need to be thrown off buildings
The latter is bad
nova sierra
And fag os also a matter of interpretation?
inner plaza
wow he changed his name, suck it up snowflake (just doing this for JB)
solar pulsar
@nova sierra it isn't a matter of interpretation- it is context
Like a brit might say- I'm going to go outside and suck on a fag. Context
bitter wagon
I miss @nova sierra.
tough beacon
I said what I had to say. Shame about the comment you posted Push-up...
That being said people who talk openly about tragedy or personal things in their life on social media are opening themselves up to abuse. Don’t put yourself in vulnerable situations. If you really need to talk to people then seek a loved one or a professional, not discord or stfk GC .Again be smart and be strong.
nova sierra
So....i can't write words like "how" in my own language cause they are censored...but fag is a matter of context
bitter wagon
@potent cipher would it be possible to make the language filter...optional?
solar pulsar
@tough beacon tat comment also occured during a server wide event where tons of players surrounded the guys base for 24hrs and just sat there. We actually hit the system limit for players
inner plaza
yes PLEASE give as a checkbox for that freakin filter
nova sierra
@solar pulsar why wasn't that guy ignored?
solar pulsar
@nova sierra you are talking about a chat filter, I am talking about intent of the word derived from context
@nova sierra he was and many blocked him. He was also hunted. Doesn't exuse the behavior though
nova sierra
So BitterDevilFag is lacking context and open to interpretation
solar pulsar
yes
I would say so
Any offense would be based on what the observer artificially places on it, not from its context
nova sierra
Really? What else can he be refering to...
solar pulsar
So, the word "fag" could mean different tings based on usage and context
In my previous example- it is a cigarette
nova sierra
I just gave u the context...u can read, right?
solar pulsar
Another usage could mean that it refers to someting as dumb
nova sierra
"BitterDevilFag" is the change he made to his name and parked his ships next to my base
solar pulsar
It could also relate to sexual preference
solar pulsar
It can be used to mean that yes. That isn't the same as saying that anyone who is homosexual is dumb
The point is- words can have many meanings. The context gives you intent and definition
nova sierra
So does pussy
So does gay
So do many words
But most peoole must be really stupid that they can bot understand it yhe way that you do
solar pulsar
Now, lets say you are in an LGBT alliance and openly talk about you being homosexual. In that case, someone doing the act you mentioned, would most likely cross into nefarious intent wit the term and possibly be bigoted
which would not be ok
nova sierra
I mean, that's what u are saying, right? That no one should be offended by such things
I get it...only gay peiole can be offended by being called fags
People
solar pulsar
Not saying you SHOULDN'T be offended. Just that you are assuming intent and the offense is self-induced
solar pulsar
And I would disagree that only gay people should be offended. Normal people should be offended by offensive behaviour whether it is directed to them or not
nova sierra
Someone who can barely write in english, but he knows all the other meanings of that one word
Can u imagine how many morons have classified this as hate speech?
In laws!
solar pulsar
snowflakes imo 😃
nova sierra
Yes...classifying people as something less than human based on a characteristic is snowflakeism
proud musk
As a moron, I feel offended. 😒
solar pulsar
lol
proud musk
Maybe. But I'm easily to shrug off any would-be insults. 😁
nova sierra
Damn thos gays, blacks, chineese, women etc...all snowflakes who have nothing better to di
Do*
proud musk
Negativity is so energy consuming. I know better things to put my energy in. Like grinding a second Envoy. 😆
nova sierra
U missed the point...you either censor all hate speech, or none at all
I am against censorship
But, as i have said, when i can't write in my own language without having every other word appear as ****, you can't allow hate speech at all
Either, or
proud musk
Either way, this general feedback seems to have gone into the opposite direction.
The question is.. who do the 'reported' chats go to and who addresses them?
nova sierra
To suppport, and the answer is standard "we have been made aware , but you won't know if something is gonna happen to that player"
solar pulsar
Yes, but words =/= behavior
nova sierra
Or, someone like @potent cipher will laugh cause u'r a snowflake
@solar pulsar what i have described is behaviour, intent...nit just words
@solar pulsar but...why let facts get in the way
solar pulsar
The screenshot of the guy's comment I posted is an example. Are you going to ban dead or child?
nova sierra
@solar pulsar i am not talking about the chat...
solar pulsar
Chat filters are good for inappropriate words that would legally be ties to age levels for access
hahahaha
solar pulsar
Trump is alright
potent cipher
please though. let's not discuss politics on here
nova sierra
Ofc he is...perfect for u guys
potent cipher
there's reddit or 4chan for those e-jousting ventures 😉
nova sierra
Really? 😂😂😂 that's where u draw the line? 😂😂😂
U call me a snowflake...but, hey, no politics 😂
nova sierra
And many of you actually do..even when u'r being scammed...u still do
If i'm a snowflake...what would u call someone who pays for something, that something is broken, he complains, nothing necessary is fixed, but he still pays and plays?
Just asking for a friend
potent cipher
ahaha, no i didn't call you anything buddy 😉
ripe pebble
why do lvl 27's with 200k+ ships get to hit lvl 19's with ships in the low 20k's?
what is the thinking behind that game mechanic?
potent cipher
i very much put presure on revisin gpvp banding indeed
nova sierra
@potent cipher i know...that emoticon is for warning the players it's snowing outside
potent cipher
early inquiry goes towards power rating instead of lvls, but that'd be far off
@nova sierra just giggling here, truly hope you get no offense here 😉
ripe pebble
when a high level alliance declares war, there is nothing to do but take it
am seriously considering quitting
no way to defend, no way to hid, you just get to die
even cowering in your station isn't a defense
inner plaza
you can use a shield
ripe pebble
oh yeah, shield. then they can't hit your base with no rss in it anyways
nova sierra
@potent cipher relax...as i have said...it's not the offensive word that bothers me....it's the double standard
ripe pebble
but you cna't mine, can't farm
inner plaza
most of the time there is a reason for declaring war to another alliance
maybe your alliance fukekd up, you can think about joining another one
ripe pebble
and if you are shielded, you can't move people off of 0 nodes or defend yourself against other people who are within your level/power range
I don't care what the reason is, the power differentials are RIDICULOUS
and if you disagree, lets just open up pvp for ALL levels, why wait until level 10/15
inner plaza
well you need to give high level player some targets or they will get bored and stop playing and spending
ripe pebble
targets should have a way to defend themselves, otherwise it is about as rewarding as killing reds
inner plaza
i think thats what armadas are going to be about
weaker targets bonding together vs stronger ones
ripe pebble
so, then the stronger targets just bond together...problem solved
your thoughts make sense in the context of a smaller differential, for a 10x difference in power? and it isn't like 10 20k ships could take on a 200k ship...no. I could crash 100 20k ships against his 200k ship and it still wouldn't dent him
ITS BROKEN
nova sierra
@ripe pebble it's not broken if it helps the P2P players
inner plaza
the reason you are paying in such a game is to get an advantage over other players
whats the advantage for me over you when i pay and can't attack you ?
you would just laugh at me
and i would feel sad
❄
nova sierra
@inner plaza but if the ammount i am paying, is not enough...why pay at all?
inner plaza
because there are people who dont pay at all and you can beat those 🤓
there is bigger fish and smaller fish
nova sierra
@inner plaza yes...if i were able to attack them without being attacked myself
inner plaza
you can attack them and use a shield afterwards, i do this all day
nova sierra
@inner plaza but when i am attacked the moment my shield is down...than my money are worth nothing
inner plaza
that would be very unlucky and for those unlucky moments you got a 5m autoshield
nova sierra
@inner plaza 😂😂😂 you must have a boring server if you can be unshielded for more than 5 min wothout being attacked
inner plaza
i usually teleport to my victim so the bigger fish wont even notice i'm unshielded
also they dont check 24/7
and i dont even need a shield when being online
all i need to do is repair my station quickly
🤷
nova sierra
@inner plaza 1. If i teleport, i lose my spot in that system
2. Yes they do watch 24/7
ripe pebble
yeah, the game's gonna be really fun for the ppl who spend $$$ when they chase everyone off of their server. lots of fun for EVERYONE
nova sierra
@inner plaza well...when u P2P u can...when u are lvl 22 with all the def researched and 3 ships of total power of 240k, not so much
inner plaza
you can easily defend vs lvl 30s as a 22 and you dont even need your 3 best ships at home
you could put in 3 tier 1 ships which can be repaired immediately
nova sierra
@inner plaza the attackers have the worst ship, more powerfull than all my 3 ships combined
inner plaza
and your station should hold each attack if you repair inbetween
nova sierra
@inner plaza are you playing the same game???
inner plaza
i'm not sure
nova sierra
I've seen 22's with strong ships docked one shotted by a lvl 30
1 attack from kumary leaves me qith 1 and 1/2 shios standing...second with no ships standing...the third is always the horizon
inner plaza
that's why you repair inbetween
inner plaza
even if the kumari gets through, who cares, its not like its gonna take millions of rss
no with tritanium
and thats why you use tier 1 ships cuz its cheap
nova sierra
U really aren't playing the same game
inner plaza
at least a lot cheaper than for the attacker
nova sierra
Ur max def power for ur base at lvl 22 is around 150k
A kumary has 300k
The horizon has a little less
inner plaza
yes and kumari repair takes 3h?
nova sierra
HE'S A PAY TO PLAY!
inner plaza
i just did exactly what i told you against our psychopath sitting on #1
so what? he still wont waste latinum for nothing
nova sierra
Dude...pls join our server 😂🙊🙊😂
I wanna see how u do against players who attack you 6-7 times in a row
inner plaza
dude we have a superwhale who is completely psycho. he kills every ship, disregarding of type or cargo, he attacks every station he can, disregarding of ress
he took out a station yesterday and i ported to it and took some ress myself
because there is nothing he can do 🤷
he ran into me like 20 times withotu any real success and then pissed off
repairing your station costs <10k trit
ships even less
nova sierra
Lvl difference?
inner plaza
well i admit i was 25 and he 30
nova sierra
😂😂😂
nova sierra
Nice...saying that it's the same as 22 vs 30
Really???
Are u insane?
You do not understand that my base gets toast if i don't have a ship docked?
inner plaza
i rushed from 21 to 25 without research, so i'm basically a lvl 21 😉
nova sierra
Cause he has twice the power
inner plaza
of course you need ships docked
nova sierra
Yeah...right...come on
inner plaza
but not your expensive ones
nova sierra
Dude...u'r lying thru your teeth
inner plaza
that is 2 tier 1 ships and a talla
and the talla was not needed there, i couldve taken another corvette
all of those have <3m repair time
oh i was lying, he was 29 yesterday, now he is 30
you cant see the first ship, it was a realta
inner plaza
you need more ships in there
nova sierra
Now he is 30 and i'm 22
nova sierra
and how can i attack another base if i have to keep all my ships inside?
Cause you said it's doable
inner plaza
be fast 😄
nova sierra
Be serious
inner plaza
i am
nova sierra
How fast can i be if he attacks with 3 ships?
nova sierra
What do u mean he can't?
inner plaza
then you can go for an attack again
nova sierra
Oh really?
inner plaza
this will remove the auto-shield timer
and for the next attack, you will get another auto-shield
nova sierra
But u said i could attack someone else
nova sierra
How can i do that without dropping my shield?
nova sierra
So, i repair the ships, attack all in a few min
Right?
Just woth tritanium
No latinum
inner plaza
yes
nova sierra
😂😂😂😂
inner plaza
your envoy can take 180k out with 1 attack
and you need 10k for repair at max
and your bully will lose much more
😏
nova sierra
Oh...so i just found a target woth lots of rss and defense just enough for 1 attack to break it, right?
inner plaza
no, you dont need to find the target hehe, you watch your bully 😉
and when he raids a station you join and take his loot
inner plaza
you have an alliance who can report if he is seen raiding
nova sierra
Oh...how do i take his loot if he has ships 2 yomes more powerful?
inner plaza
by attacking his victim
inner plaza
yes, he cant do anything about it
i tried to explain to you since 10m now
when youre online and smart, there is not much he can do
nova sierra
He attacks it...but allows enemies, less powerfull, near it?
And that's assuming he needs lots of trips to drain it...which he doesn't
inner plaza
if yuo tp next to it, he cant catch your ship inbetween
he cant target it when you attack
you just need to recall quickly
i'm out of here, if you need tips you should go to #🤝-help-each-other
👋
nova sierra
He can't?
inner plaza
yes, you can't target a ship when it is in attack animation
nova sierra
Dude...when we defend an attacked plauer...no ship xan get near it
To attack the base it needs to get mear it first!
But no...the other player will just watch 😂
inner plaza
yes thats why you teleport on top of it
nova sierra
And hope he doesn't attack me instead
Got it
I wish i had pkayers like u on the server
inner plaza
you didn't but nevermind 😁
nova sierra
I go and attack someone..and they tele their base rigbt next so i don't have to look for it
Great tactics 😂😂😂
@inner plaza dude...i'm the admiral of one of the alliances that make up the rulling federation on our server... the top 10 has only 2 alliances that are not in our federation. Trust me, you would get creamed on our server
proud musk
I'm also. But we tend to be more accepting towards eachother within certain limits
inner plaza
@potent cipher stop giggling 😂
potent cipher
lol busted 😃
nova sierra
@potent cipher if you could answer serious questions, besides giggling, i would be so happyyyy
potent cipher
where is such question to be answerd? trying as much as humanly possible here
inner plaza
😂
nova sierra
Like how it makes sense to have missions that ask u for 1.8mil dilithium and give u 1.3mil parsteel
Or missions that give lvl 18 rewards but ask the player to be lvl 30 to complete them
nova sierra
I asked how it makes sense...not why they exist
Maybe there is an aspect we are missing
nova sierra
Thank you...if you would've talked on behalf of scopely, ur answer would be relevant instead of just a troll
inner plaza
you want them to admit that some numbers are stupid, which is troll in the first place
nova sierra
So if i want to know if it's WAI or not...it's considered trolling?
inner plaza
i never saw them admitting to any "negative" stuff
even when they rolled back some changes a week ago, they didn't admit anything
nova sierra
That doesn't mean we should stop asking
inner plaza
no but complaining about somethign and then calling it a "serious question" is trolling
i'm sure he read that complaint and probably forwarded it
because you arent the first one to complain about that
nova sierra
It's nice to get such answers from someone with no relevance...i feel enlightend
inner plaza
👍
nova sierra
Btw...there may have been a reason for the trade of...maybe it started a chain of quests that would make it worthwhile in the long run
But, hey...if u wanna feel important by telling people what they should ask...who am i to get in the way?
inner plaza
if that was the case, you would need to ask hivemind
nova sierra
And again...who are u? Do u represent Scopely in any capacity?
solemn coral
yay, more high class ships whaling over the low levels !
nova sierra
But u seem to be their lawyer or something
inner plaza
im just telling you where to get your info mate
nova sierra
Or imagibe u are
If u would've said just that they won't answer, i might have agreed with u
But u had to feel important and tell me what i can an dxan't qsk
inner plaza
i was just pointing out that it wasn't a "serious question" which you demanded a response to in the first place
feel free to ask whatever you want, you have my permission now
😂
plucky wind
Waiting for scopely to realize they will soon run out of casual players and have lots of dead servers. As screwing casual players wont make a sustainable game.
solemn coral
lets wait what the maintenance update tomorrow will bring
regarding dead servers, they are working on ways to move players and servers, so those will be solved, be it not in the way you probably expect, but thats being worked on too
nova sierra
@inner plaza funny how u were answering something u weren't asked
cinder garden
Uh if i'm reading the announcement right you're taking down european servers for 5 hours at peak play time tomorrow - Surely it's time to rethink doing EU maintenance at such times?!
nova sierra
The first posting was incorrect, please check again
potent cipher
bans aren't handled lightly though...
and the hammer is held by senior member of the team, after exhaustive checks are being done.
https://scopely.com/tos/ failing to comply with those, ban can happen, depending on the severity (case by case)
feel free to PM me so we can chat it through if needed
include your user id please
i'll pick it up in the morning as i'm now on my way to be beamed out 😒
calm root
@potent cipher so does that mean that anyone that did get a refund will be banned? there's rumors flying around and the terms says "All purchases and redemptions of such Virtual Items through our Services are final and non-refundable, unless otherwise determined by us." but refunds aren't authorized by you but by Apple/Google, sooo... yeah.
I should hope that refund doesn't equal insta-ban, that there would have to be like warnings or like penalties vs ban, or based on the severity of the individual action being that NO ONE ever reads TOS to know this legal jargon about refunds. In line with Burt, not trying to be a punk but trying to understand.
Also, if everyone who got a refund (regardless of size or any other elements evaluated) gets banned, could that be publicly communicated? Probably a good deal of dudes who would like to stop playing if they're gonna be eventually banned or something haha. Either that or re-roll and start over. (though, it's unlikely you could publicly communicate about refunds because then more people would know about it...)
carmine jay
How much did you get refunded @calm root? 😬
calm root
Lets say I know a guy who got $20 back, a guy who got $400 back, and a guy who got $1000 back. All banned? Only above X banned? Warnings/penalties?
nova sierra
@calm root what are your main hopes for the economy changes in the upcoming update?
nova sierra
I figured you may be passionate about the subject
calm root
lol, how'd you guess?
nova sierra
Lil birdy tol me
calm root
Sounds like Mining buffs is being worked on, which is good ish, though doesn't solve the super low protected cap of miners
so it's a net neutral, unless they're increasing protected cap (unlikely)
Refining is a huge issue, taking many days to accrue needed uncommon
warehouses not holding enough to be able to passively grow (for example, lvl 21 parasteel warehouse requiring 250k more parasteel than you can actually hold)
certain buildings have crazy requirements at higher levels (vaults for one), ship building/upgrading is bleeding expensive
(skimming through my other suggestions here haha)
earnest plover
i'll tell you... even tho i wasnt asked 😛
please try to play your game .... and build any building after lvl 20 with farming alone....
not talking bout the VEEEEEEEEERY EASY and OBVIOUS Farm Buff Bug by Crew and ships which cuts Mining rate into half.....
calm root
Simply put it's the circle of life:
Scopely feeds the Cows (f2p/PvE) > Cows feed the whales (p2p/p2w/pvp) > both feed Scopely
earnest plover
feed the base!
nova sierra
Personally i hope to see a return of profitable npc grinding, at the moment returns diminish to negative at or around lv20 non faction NPC's
earnest plover
and your cashers feel that theire invests will be worth something
calm root
after a certain level, you either have to raid, pay, or grind for many many months for minimal gain
Ok I'm done summarizing haha, reply away
nova sierra
Also incremental mine yields based on system level or warp distance required
earnest plover
seriously... as an avarage players your ships wont even be a match against NPCs cause u lack ressources....
and i am from the top alliance of my server!
calm root
Parasteel is something I'm in huge demand atm. I make about 500k on day one with passive gain, dailies, and mining, with 250k or so every day there after due to the cap of warehouses. This stat doesn't move as I level up, it just takes longer to upgrade one building after another. So for just for the OPs 24 building it'll take around 9-10 days of constant mine grinding (pending I don't get raided or miners killed every few hours)
nova sierra
@nova sierra i can see that u guys don't even bother with the time-zone conversion anymore :))))))
earnest plover
dont forget to say while others have 100 mil steel on theire base and dont know what to do with it.... @calm root
carmine jay
Phil isnt an employee of scopely @nova sierra , hes a mod, lol
nova sierra
I've been a mod 4hrs and I've already become..... One of Them 😂 😂
nova sierra
@nova sierra that was my first thought on seeing the time too, if it was @nova sierra I could smash his base for such an oversight. For @potent cipher I need to wait until I can swap servers
@nova sierra sorry...seen only after...thought u were my BFF JB
tawdry kite
I understand faction areas that your hatred by having hostiles that attack you but do they have to be so much stronger than what your there to attack? I can barely do my daily faction kills as it is. I die as soon as I get there every time and cant do them any longer.
languid cloak
"Hey we see you're level 22 and going into unfriendly faction space..have you tried being stuck in warp and not able to move while an over powered Klingon ship 5 levels above you is headed straight for you? No?? Well here. Let's see what that like."
Seriously @potent cipher ... Fix this warp problem from FIVE updates ago.
remote atlas
I see all packs seem to have more 3* uncommon in them today... really nice spit in the face thing to wake up to when you spent $300 on the 18th alone... announce changes coming to contents of packs?? like what the actual f..
80 went to 108, 60 went to 75.... just my 18th purchases (ship packs).... like...
carmine jay
When should they do it?
carmine jay
And if it went down?
carmine jay
From a business pov, you usually dont. Take black friday. People hope thier item goes down. But sometimes it doesnt, if u want it now, you buy it.
But agree, a heads up would be great but not a realistic option, because everyone will wait and no sales.
What you ask is reasonable from a consumer pov but no savvy seller will do it.
#blamephil
remote atlas
you can return items, 14 days, in most places by law
if something goes on sale within 14 days, i fucking return it
i dont really have that option here
carmine jay
Not when you press a button saying you accept the terms, same with sales items that say no refunds, sold as seen etc
remote atlas
i commonly do this on amazon if it goes on sale... they get it, they help me through getting the reduction
and thats for physical items
how is this different?
other then fucking us over repeatedly
carmine jay
Try it with apple / google. Lmk how you get on.
remote atlas
if it was a price change, its by law where i am... it isn't a price change otherwise i would
earnest plover
Apple is doable if justification is solid
Google is Harder cause they don’t see themself involved
remote atlas
google policy is 48 hours, but i wont be able to buy anything again
with star trek
i may choose that route
tawny gust
yeah, google can choose to refund or paypal can end your billing policy with them and you'd have to go through google to get it reinstated if you want to make purchases in the future
remote atlas
im still salty about the Kehra... and now this... im not sure i'll need the ability to spend money anymore 😃
nova sierra
@potent cipher just saw the store for materials will tokens be up for grabs in event?
calm root
either ^ or @potent cipher give us the option to store our Rss in tokens
convert from steel to token, cuz warehouses suuk
Well, I guess it's nice for whales when they spend they don't have to worry about all of their leet stuff
nova sierra
@calm root no god no that would kill this game horrible idea. i do agree to increasing the size of warehouses and generators but no to converting to tokens
calm root
so, cool. Can you do stuff for the non-whales next?
lol, I'd accept a loss to be able to store it
like, pay 2 million, get 1 token (i mean, ideally 1 for 1, but unlikely )
nova sierra
bad idea
calm root
lol
nova sierra
it will kill this game
nova sierra
its a war game not hello kitty
nova sierra
me no i hunt whales though
calm root
anyway, don't need to fight. just sayin storage sucks, lets do better devs
nova sierra
allowing players hide rss in tokens would destroy the station pvp aspect of the game. use shields if your a whale
but im 100% with you on increasing sizes of warehouses
should increae 1 mil per level
for par
500k per level for trit
250k per level for dilithium
the generators should get you 10% of your warehouse limit a day
for par maybe 20%
trit 15%
dilithium 10% of your warehouse limit ina 24hr period
assuming warehouse and gensare maxed at your ops level
vaults should be 50% of warehouse limit
assuming vaults are maxed at ops level
calm root
"allowing players hide rss in tokens would destroy the station pvp aspect of the game. use shields if your a whale"
So I'm guessing you're upset because they literally did this for whales
nova sierra
so for example a lvl 15 player should have a par warehouse of 15mil vault of 7.5 mil and gen 20% of 15 mil in 24hrs
they have not
you cannot convert rss to tokens
calm root
Did you not see those tokens? That gives whales a protected rss thinf
nova sierra
tokens give you more rss not allow you hide them
calm root
You buy tokens = you get to hoard rss.
nova sierra
getting incredibly pissed off with refinery chance based crap been weeks since i got any uncommon stuff
@potent cipher
how about changing how the refinery works?
- Reduce/Remove the cooldown
- Change from chance based to fixed rate refining. for g2 set it 90/10 common/uncommon for g3 set it 85/10/5 common/uncommon/rare
for g4 set it 85/10/5 common/uncommon/rare
this simple change would retain high level players and allow low mid level player progress without needing to spend thousands
for packs add refined material packs for those that dont want to grind
3 sizes small medium large g2 (available to all players)
3 sizes small medium large g3 (available to ops level 15 or higher players)
3 sizes small medium large g4 (available to ops level 22 or higher players)
add 3 new refinery research skills
- ORE smelting - each level adds 1% more of each (common/uncommon/rare) each level research available is dependent on refinery level
- crystal fabrication - each level adds 1% more of each (common/uncommon/rare) each level research available is dependent on refinery level
- Gas purification - each level adds 1% more of each (common/uncommon/rare) each level research available is dependent on refinery level
calm root
I have a feeling they've decided on what they're gonna do. I'm hoping it comes with this release like they promised
gloomy oasis
@calm root i'll say this.... don't necesarilly expect to have everything entirely changed all in this patch. It may be just a step in the right direction. But lets see the patch and the chamges. We'll soon know.
calm root
Yeah I am holding my breath for a step in the right direction, so far it's only gotten worse
I'm cool with small positive changes but have yet to see anything good when it comes to mining, storage, costs, and refining
gloomy oasis
Refining has been tweeked 2 times so far. And i can confirm that at level 18-20 it was noticeable. Before and after i mean.
nova sierra
chance based stalls the game for everyone 22 or higher
they need to change it to fixed rate at least then players can plan their progression
gloomy oasis
I'm talking about 2*
calm root
Or at least semi fixed and semi chance
gloomy oasis
Just to be clear.
calm root
Same
nova sierra
g3 is rubbish
gloomy oasis
That is odd.... @calm root
nova sierra
its driving out players
this fix would bring life back to the game
how about changing how the refinery works?
- Reduce/Remove the cooldown
- Change from chance based to fixed rate refining. for g2 set it 90/10 common/uncommon for g3 set it 85/10/5 common/uncommon/rare
for g4 set it 85/10/5 common/uncommon/rare
this simple change would retain high level players and allow low mid level player progress without needing to spend thousands
for packs add refined material packs for those that dont want to grind
3 sizes small medium large g2 (available to all players)
3 sizes small medium large g3 (available to ops level 15 or higher players)
3 sizes small medium large g4 (available to ops level 22 or higher players)
add 3 new refinery research skills
- ORE smelting - each level adds 1% more of each (common/uncommon/rare) each level research available is dependent on refinery level
- crystal fabrication - each level adds 1% more of each (common/uncommon/rare) each level research available is dependent on refinery level
- Gas purification - each level adds 1% more of each (common/uncommon/rare) each level research available is dependent on refinery level
that would make a huge difference to all players and retain players
zinc tusk
@potent cipher, @nova sierra - Any news ?
nova sierra
to make more money the packs would work. also sell faction bp packs
people will buy those packs rather than grinding
calm root
Maybe that's how many millions of dollars they need before they'll make a legit quality of life change vs the we need your money change
$155,075,580.00 gofundme?
nova sierra
Also for the love of god reduce the market to ops 15 so alliances can trade to help weak members grow
market should allow trading of lvls 1-5 the 3 primary rss 6-10 the three primary rss plus g2 rss 11-15 add the 3 g3 rss and bp for ships (player still needs shipyard level to build the ships)
16 -20 allow the g4 rss and g3 ship bps
21+ allow all (faction bp and all rss types)
calm root
That'd be cool. Downside is everybody be hurting for Rss except maybe old stuff like 1*
nova sierra
no it would work, higher lvl players alway need g1 rss
weaker players need g2/g3 rss
and bps
its a fair trade
weaker players can mine g1 and sell for higher grade rss or bp
calm root
Yeah lvl 50 seems to be a placeholder
nova sierra
higher lvl players can mine that higher grade rss
calm root
I wonder what they'll do when people hit 50...
Should be another month or so for the super whales
nova sierra
ships parts should also be tradeable
ii have thousands of g2 parts ill never need
but if i can help a weaker alliance mber by trading those for some trit ill be happy and they are happy
i have enough bp to build 5 tallas right now
but i also have enough bp to buidl 3 more envoys
i have 3 envoys so i dont even need them
i would love to be able to sell those 30 bp packs to help my team
i would sell a 30 bp envoy pack for like 500k trit
easy for weak members to achieve and they get an extra envoy
dull elk
What a waste of time lots of players just upgraded to 19 and have no hope of even trying for that event lvl20 due to the ridiculously slow refine rate why even bother with it yet another way to unbalance the game
gaunt osprey
lol 3day event teasing me with uncommons when I'm already at ops 20 and can't get any of it regardless of cash in my wallet
sturdy horizon
I'm glad the packs look like they're now scaling up with level but it's pretty irritating for all of us who have bought packs early on. Hoping @nova sierra and devs will make this right for all of us but not holding my breath...
calm root
Is it scaling with level? Can someone lvl 22 or 23 screen shot their advanced station building?
lilac saffron
i would but i already bought it a while back lol
but it is more cause i remember it was only 1000 latinum when i got it
wary talon
Yesterday we had a fancy little war which showed me how unbalanced this game is. Level 22 Player with a Vahklas killed my already very all-prime-pimped up Turas (I am Level 19), without me barely leaving a scratch on the shield.
PLEASE rebalance! I could have thrown 100 of my ships at him and He would still survive. This is far from logic or fun. If people can be so much stronger 3 levels above...
I don't even want to talk about the Level 25 Player attacking me with a Vahklas, that was even more ridiculous....
It should be possible to kill a single ship of someone 3 levels above you by throwing 3 ships of yours on him but even that barely leaves a scratch, which makes the complete fight with him nonsense.
tawny gust
i hear you but you also have to take into account research done and building upgrades. pvp will be unbalanced as long as there is a level gap that higher levels can attack lower levels at
twilit slate
I am level 27 and I can still hit level 19. My kumari is 310k and my vahklas is 265k. I understand your pain as I can get taken out by a 1.5M strong faction ship by a level 35 player.
keen bobcat
@wary talon it's not just ships they can do your base in one hit as well. They can hit and clear you base in 1 maybe 2 hits so anyone trying to grow slowly without paying will lose everything and there is nothing you can do. A level 25 can hit a level 18 no problem at all
wary talon
I think the power spans are too high in the upper level attack ranges (18+).
I understand that it is hard to take away Power from too strong players now, since many players would feel betrayed after investing so much money. But a normalization of power is needed, or else too many players will loose fun later in game.
One could raise the power from the weaker ones to reduce the gap and improve balance.
If I would have balanced the game, trying to be fair but also still motivating people to invest money, I would have made a shorter span between the lowest possible power and the highest possible power in a certain Level range.
This span would make sure that 3 ships of the lower end of a level range can always kill one maximum leveled up ship at the upper bound of the level range, if they shortly attacked one after another.
This would be a desperate move of the low level player and he will loose 2 ships and one heavy crippled, but at least it would be an honorable fight.
Also it is unlikely to always have all 3 ships at the same spot but at least it is possible! And that makes the difference in acceptance of the game balance.
I have already invested 125€, which is more than average and still all my 3 powerfull ships in a "fleet" can be crippled with a finger snap by one player's ship 3 levels above me (lvl19 all Prime) C'mon Scopely, that is ridiculous...
His ship was over 4 times as powerfull as one of mine. 3 levels above. Who needs cheaters in the game if you have such unfair powerspans
brittle quarry
As long as there is no market, why do lv20+ player still get 2* rewards? Also in the packs. I have tons of 2* stuff and no need for it at all, while my juniors could greatly benefit from it.
inner plaza
same reason why lvl 28s drop 2* parts and BPs 🤷
native harness
How can I delete my account for this piece of shit game?
Can someone please help me delete my account for stfe? Please....
nova sierra
@native harness raise a ticket with support, I know of one player on my server who had his account deleted on request
native harness
@nova sierra thank you. I appreciate it
random dagger
@scopley
You need to solve the Balance! It might be very nice and funny for CreditCard Players to f*ck the smaller ones, but its not funny for those who mine for weeks and then get there Station raided from someone u can't even fight Back....
nova sierra
@random dagger thats the best victims :p
silent night
JB, you do know the most hated aspect of the game right?
potent cipher
i believe you guys remind me on daily basis, yes 😃
silent night
Its painfully obvious, aside from the glitches
For starters the most obvious one is the mine node bug
Thats something, which if the team fixes, will bring positive feedback cuz its the most obvious bug
potent cipher
i'd beg do differ! i believe mining skills are more critical!
which is sitting at the very top of the bug fixes
silent night
Glad to know
potent cipher
then yeah, mining nodes not spawning
next week, i'll have more press on this
once we clear out of the way all things related to the upcoming update
silent night
Please do, thank you, we need regular updates, even if they are only bug fixes
potent cipher
sure thing
nova sierra
@potent cipher are you going to fix refining?
lilac steppe
Good question...
carmine jay
Define “fix” 😬
Some may say it is already “fixed” 😂
But yeah, however they do it, we need a ton more uncommon and rare without having to buy packs
lilac steppe
👍
solemn coral
one hour till update
robust bramble
@potent cipher how do we obtain these tokens?
solemn coral
aren't those simply the resources mentioned ?
gloomy oasis
@robust bramble packs and events.
robust bramble
So I’m assuming spend more money ploy
solemn coral
oh wait, it changed
latent talon
@
JB.Scopely#9234 Why limit the faction event to lvl 21+? You spent all week saying to build faction rep, but no mention of this. Anyone should be able to earn, whatever it is can be earned.
hot karma
@potent cipher well I submitted my first ticket. Numerous issues. Just made a purchase against my better judgement. Shielded up for 8 hours. Came back to base 4 hours later cracked and looted. Completed events with rewards. No points registering. Opened a ticket hope some adjustments and these bugs can be fixed. I’m giving this game 24 hours to fix the game breaking mechanics of the game or at minimum to make this right. If these issues are not addressed I’m throwing in the towel and will seek a refund with Apple for all my purchases.
nova loom
So where are these patch notes. How hard is it to publish what you're changing in the game
tawny gust
it was mentioned in teh announcement patch notes will come out during maintenance
The full patch notes, listing the exhaustive update details, will be published while the game goes under maintenance.
flat cedar
While is the key word, they got 5 hours to do so, technically
hoary robin
Going back to fair PvP attacks, My lvl 22 miner was killed by a lvl 32. How is this anywhere close to a fair fight?
Almost 10 times stronger
brave quail
Pach notes?
tawny gust
shortly™
tawny gust
yeah one of the top players on our server
hoary robin
Only way this seems remotely possible is if that player is an insider. And for no rss. Come on Scopely
brave quail
Wat is the cargo on a full upgraded north star?
zinc oracle
Can't they just remove the ability for players to attack bases? People could actually play the game and player loss could be reduced.
civic slate
@zinc oracle 😂
wide summit
What's the point of greater storage in generators if the warehouses can't hold shit?
tawny gust
@zinc oracle this isn't a pve only game.
you jsut see an increased attack on mining nodes
nova sierra
Fixed an issue where you couldn’t tap to expand a Missions rewards if the Mission had more than three rewards.
Multiple of the same rewards (Officer shards) will now stack when opening chests. This will clear up ambiguity over Officer shards received.
Fixed an issue where disabling the in game music wouldn’t persist between sessions.
THESE ARE THE BUGS THAT PLAGUED THE PLAYERS??? 😂😂😂
Can Scopely be more incompetent than this???
civic slate
yeah this is a pretty disappointing update.
i'm guessing miner/officer fixes is still not important. i'm resigned to the fact that's never gonna happen.
no refinery adjustments.
calm root
Dang, didn't make the cut for the vault increases lol
civic slate
but i WAS about to quit the game over the in game music. glad that's fixed
zinc oracle
True, but know that when a war breaks out on a server, who cares if the alliance being hit have miners on a note or not, it's the bases with their hard work being targeted.
tawny gust
that's what peace shields are for
otherwise may jsut as well be a single player mobile game
zinc oracle
How did you get no base raiding to single player mobile game?
tawny gust
b/c you are taking out one of the main pvp aspects taking away raiding bases
want rss faster, go raid someone's base that left it unshielded
i can tell you this, my base has only been hit twice in teh almsot 3 months i've played now. first time, id didn'tknow about shielding. the 2nd time, i overslept my shield timer
calm root
Also I don't see any mining buffs
Ah well
At least one thing out of all that stuff is good for <25
nova sierra
the update is a joke. some numbers are changed, but no bugfixes
zinc oracle
You must have a really nice server @tawny gust . My server, a base can get raided 30 times on 10 minutes.
tawny gust
no, we have smarter players
zinc oracle
Right...
calm root
@potent cipher didn't you say there'd be mining buffs?
tawny gust
if you're getting raided that often, you aren't shielding and don't understand the game
tawny gust
uhm yeah
zinc oracle
I don't think you understand how an alliance works.
tawny gust
be smart and don't plop your base in the same system with the targets you're warring with
zinc oracle
We don't.
tawny gust
i';m in a top 6 alliance on my server
zinc oracle
Congrats.
So tell me from your perspective how a #1 Alliance with over 100k in power gap is ok to attack alliances in the lower 20's?
tawny gust
i didn't design the game
calm root
This release is why I don't get excited for things
zinc oracle
I didn't say you had to design the game. I'm asking your opinion on the idea.
nova sierra
he didnt had one, he think you just to stupid for the game
zinc oracle
I know he does.
tawny gust
learn how to cope with it b/c i don't think scopely is going to take one of the main drives of the pvp portion of the game away because someone doesn't like their base being hit because they don't play smart enough to shield properly
calm root
lol, take it to PMs, we don't need to see yall fighting
tawny gust
as i stated before, i don't put myself in a situation that i can't control in pvp., it's not fun when it happened to me twice but i learned how to adapt
zinc oracle
I don't need to. I just gave a general feedback and he complained about it
nova sierra
because he spend a lots of money in the game and now he has to defend the game
tawny gust
lol, i'm not the one complaining. i'm stating alternatives to you
nova sierra
its normal
calm root
@potent cipher @nova sierra did you guys get approval for the top 10 things you guys are working on?
i don't see any changes for resource generations or costs
which is something that was mentioned as coming
carmine jay
Now we can riot @calm root 😬
green linden
I agree. The patch notes sounds underwhelming.
carmine jay
Not.... yet....
green linden
If they increased the warehouse size, I’d say it’s going in the right direction
calm root
it sounds like it's being worked on, but mining buff was supposed to come with this one
they didn't touch warehouse, it's generator cap
green linden
But valuts? Oh pleasseeee
potent cipher
there will be further comms next week on those top issues,
once client hits and clears out the way
inner plaza
poor jb
calm root
cool cool
inner plaza
i replace my #excitingtimes with #toughtimes
calm root
lol
eh, I'll take the one small step that makes life a little better
sucks that my warehouse still caps at 30-50% of what I need for most things
inner plaza
dude that lvl 27+ dilitium vault "fix" is like the biggest facepalm ever 😂 not that it does anything bad, but it shows what they r thinking doesnt it
calm root
oh well
zinc oracle
When is Armadas coming out, or at least hints on how it works?
green linden
I’m not worried about armada. Want the game fixed or balanced first
Mining bonuses, economy, that kind of thing first before armada
inner plaza
how hard can it be to put some correct numbers into this game, jeez
anyone thinking that spending 100m parsteel on a dilitium warehouse protecting 20k dil is just plain stu....
calm root
I would be happy to have like a 'fix the game' before 'lets add new stuff' but such is development
i only upgrade vaults because I have to, I leave them to last
inner plaza
there are multiple ppl working on multiple things so fixing doesnt exclude new content
yes because they are fukkin useless
and they still are, even tho they got reworked
calm root
eh I wouldn't say useless, I'd say they have different priorities than the community
inner plaza
i was talking about the "useless" vaults, not the devs 😂
calm root
ah
inner plaza
i don't know the devs, i just know that they don't know how to #math
calm root
you know it's funny, the generator cap really doesn't help that much
bitter wagon
@potent cipher nothing about the new ships?
calm root
but I guess if it's like step 1, fix generator cap, step 2, fix warehouse cap that'd be cool
kind of backwards tho
inner plaza
it's just a placebo-fix, "showing" they are doing something about economy
nova sierra
@potent cipher these are not the fixes we were looking for! 👋
calm root
oh well, back to grinding parasteel like there's no tomorrow.
calm root
only 2 days of straight grinding before my next building
inner plaza
same minign rates, same production rates
calm root
oh well
tawny gust
#ParsteelMinerLivesMAtter
calm root
hope deferred makes the heart sick
gaunt osprey
Warehouse cap should not exist. Warehouse is useless, it doesn't cap event or cash or raiding capacity. It just stops generators from working, which are already the slowest way to earn rss when they are running. Vaults are also useless because they protect a minor fraction and scale linearly while everything else is exponential.
calm root
warehouse caps exist to force you to raid, pay, or grind. it's a business model, not a design flaw
oh well, back to the grind
paper orbit
Bah humbug
solemn coral
is very disappointed about the patch notes
90% new stuff 6% setting changes 4% simple client bug fixes
mining and npc issues have not been addressed
client issues with ios have not been addressed either
civic slate
was there still an NPC issue @solemn coral most of those were rolled back last time. i haven't heard any major complaints with NPC's on our server after the last roll back.
agreed on minig buffs... the simplest, and the oldest of bugs.
solemn coral
I thought I remembered to see you folks stating this update would FIX things primarily
we still have massive stuck npc's on server 131 @civic slate
rain sierra
This patch just shows that the devs are not listening and they just want to milk the whales.
civic slate
how interesting that diff servers can have diff bugs, whenthey're all programmed the same.
solemn coral
you cannot blame the devs in here
they just get a list of things they are ordered to finish
it's the one who commands the devs who is the one to blame
civic slate
well, on our server, the "whales" are probably a handful of people... there are only maybe 2-3 factions hips at all running around in our server.
solemn coral
@civic slate they all have minor enviromental settings and are in use differently, be it the amount of players, the way the players play etc
calm root
should we make a list of the actual top 10? heh
past dawn
#1 warehouse capacity
calm root
https://www.reddit.com/r/startrekfleetcommand/comments/at4nz5/actual_top_needs_of_community/ comment with what you want, I'll update the running list
past dawn
100%agree
civic slate
dont' have a reddit, not creating one, but i'll add to the list if you care to add for me: refinery updates, more production of uncommon/rare; better drop rates.
past dawn
The refinery can stay slow it's the basic materials that shouldn't be so hard to get
Buildings cost 2-3 times what warhouses can hold
stark girder
@potent cipher Star Trek is a strong solid long lasting brand. It requires a adequate strategy for games containing it. At the moment we only see a destructive business model where players eat each other and business dies in 1 year at Scopelys STFC. We don’t have any public relations from Scopely regarding that issue. Where Scopely see this game in 3 years? How should it look like? What is the vision and strategy to develop ? What is the long lasting strategy and how is the plan to reach it? Can we get an official announcement to this questions from Scopely please?
calm root
@civic slate added to the list!
civic slate
thanks!
past dawn
@calm root need to get a mod to pin that link so we can get everybody to thumbs up it and show how many people agree with those changes
nova sierra
@solemn coral where can you see server number?
potent cipher
you cannot :x
solemn coral
@nova sierra, make sure you get an error done, then see the top right for the url
nova sierra
👍🏻
solemn coral
@nova sierra, for example, try to cut off the internet connection to the device, which will generate a network error on the next api call
solemn coral
@nova sierra, through invalid system no longer works, those 'bastards' changed that 😛
but there are enough bugs in the game to still find the info you want 😃
nova sierra
In one game it was ”crypted” in player id
Dont know why it is such a secret. It’s stupid anyway you can’t change the server in the early days. Even though it is making farm accounts next to impossible.
solemn coral
and if they rip it out completly, setup a network sniffer between your device and the internet and wait for dns lookup requests being made 😛
@potent cipher you say you can't ? we can! 😛
potent cipher
😒
zinc oracle
@stark girder Agree on the player eating player portion. My server is in all out war and Coalition alliances are forming. My Coalition has about 7 alliances, there is another with 12. Resources are running dry and players can't seem to hold on to them long enough to start a research or build.
nova sierra
Our server barely has 10 alliances in total that have some active players
past dawn
Pfft my server only has like 4 active alliances
Pre launch so we haven't had any new players since November
nova sierra
Well ours is after launch
solemn coral
@potent cipher never forget what I told you about the type of players this game attracks due to it's theme
star trek attracts tech 'nerds', period 😉
zinc oracle
I can't say how many are active on mine, but the #1 alliance has a huge power gap compared to the #2. And the #1 is literally cyber bullying the smaller alliances. Combat is completely broken.
nova sierra
@past dawn a month more and we have same amount of players you do. We have players with 2k€+ spent and quit
past dawn
A month more and we will have less than 100 players
Especially if they keep ignoring the main issues with the game
Swear every update we lose 3 or 4 people due to them giving up on this developer
zinc oracle
One of the problem on my server is that the players on the top alliances don't even bother mining. They just raid a lower alliance and their members for resources they mined themselves.
past dawn
That's the only effective way to gain resources
zinc oracle
Lol. So true.
past dawn
The warehouses don't hold half the resources you need for buildings at higher levels and mining isn't a viable option
But due to being forced to raid people just quit the game because they are essentially being farmed nonstop
zinc oracle
At least they added 4-5 new systems with Dil, right? Besides hostile NPCs of course.
nova sierra
Shadeko, we are running out of mining spots as envoys dont go further in faction space and people cant afford horizon, NS is not mining ship for real so it doesnt count
zinc oracle
Sarcasm @past dawn
Hell, now I have to worry about the NPCs farming me while I mine. Lol
nova sierra
Well anyway clearly if vitaminthc has server 131 we are talking about hundreds of servers, and with this decline they need to be introducing server merges soon or their capacity costs go over the income lol
past dawn
They really need to work on that instead of all this new content they keep dropping
zinc oracle
Then we can merge the sharks together.
solemn coral
nah, they will simply add low user servers into the pool of accepting new users
merging users over certain servers together, and reopen the now free ones for new users
past dawn
You think it wouldn't be that hard to reopen servers lol
nova sierra
I have never seen such a player decline in any game before this
zinc oracle
Basically a mass migration of users
nova sierra
In such a short period
past dawn
Ya i started in November went from a full server to dead lol
zinc oracle
One of the problems we would face if such a merger would happen is dealing with the heavy pvp players that will, again, farm lower players for resources 24/7.
past dawn
Oh ya it'd be a feeding frenzy
I know the one day they fixed a bug with a mission and gave lots of people 2 mil para we went and raided everyone all day 😂
zinc oracle
At this point, Borg better come early or there won't be anything to assimilate. Lol