thats a bad ass move then
#💬-general-feedback
inner plaza
wraith anchor
What the hell is the North Star good for you cant mine with it? I try to mine and it holds 430 in protected and of course each time it's at 431 it dies and takes 45 minutes to repair so it is slower at mining 3* than my envoy. WTF
sullen ginkgo
I get how the game is setup, and its well done. You do get alot for your first $20 if you go jelly early (which I didn’t). My biggest issue is the “sameness” of it all. 5000 copies of the same base, same defenses, same ships, etc. Everyone is on the same road. All that varies is how far you’ve gone down it. The problem is with the ship and base leveling. The game needs some variety, like custom components that can be installed in a base or ship. Hold events to win new components, or something similar. Also make them random so we’re not all identical. Finally, there needs to be a way for 10 little guys to gang up on one big guy, so a top power alliance has to be at least a little concerned that 10 lower level alliances don’t attack. Otherwise; all outcomes are assured and the game gets very boring.
bronze basin
if a base is hit enough, it'll break
tough iron
How do I get base relocation tokens ?
signal pagoda
this game sucks! is that general enough for you?
nova sierra
Actually, the game works like intened ... It's obvious designed to drive peoples nuts and make them buy packs of resources.
empty shell
Hey guys. @@nova sierra @@potent cipher After I upgraded OPS to level 28 and got to know all details within the game and all game mechanic I felt the need to write my general feedback to you. Allright first thing is game is forcing us to mine. Player should be able to produce and store amount of what max. building on particular level costs. (para steel dil) . How come there is storage place for extra mined stuff on station but not enough to produce same material? That is apsurd. If highest building cost is 8.5M parsteel on my level I should be able to store that amount. Ways that I will get that 8.5M should be mine to decide. Mining robbing or producing. Robbing should get you there 1st mining 2nd and producing should be slowest but it should be option also. Parasteel - Tritanium unbalance is huge. I have close to 100 M tritanium and 0 Parsteel. Even tho I was buying ultra station packs .
p2p players should get advantage but maximum of 4 to 6 months not 4 to 6 years. Lets take Horizon as example you need to upgrade shipyard and research it if you are low on 3* crystals it will cost you some 300$ to get it and to tier it up to say tier 4 another 200-300. If you are f2p it will take well over 1 year to get it and another 1 year to upgrade it. So refining, that is game killer there.
Officer bugs, I really don't understand this. There was Beta release and I am sure that bug was there and how the hell you haven't fixed it by now.
Advertising of game content. What you did with North Star was imho not legal. By clever usage of words you tricked people to get it. People felt robbed of their time or money. I didn't care as I have Horizon but I clearly felt that was a move that got people to start thinking negative about this game.
Ultra packs... here you will loose your p2p base. Not entirely because there are players that have infinite amount of money and no common sense. I am comfortable to talk about money. I am playing this game 1.5 months and have spent around 2k $ to get where I am now. Now if I buy ultra ship pack I can't upgrade single weapon slot on ship. Even if I buy 2 ultra packs I can't upgrade weapon slot. Guys you are pushing the border. I am ready to support but not like this. Progress curve is something you haven't tested or thought about properly.
Well I tripped and decided to go full f2p and i will think again on spending money in case you fix all officer abilities, fix storage amounts, lvl 25 up reduce costs by 50% of everything , make ultra packs worth their value, reduce refining time to max 5 hours , buff again drop rates, fix so many bugs in the game, like warping timers mining timers etc.
I am saying this in best possible intention, guys you need to be aware that only thing that is keeping this game alive is franchise name. That can't last forever.
One good thing is that as last update shows you are indeed listening to players. So I hope you will tweak it and tune it properly.
nova sierra
For a gathering & mining game, by allowing peoples to fast level and keep incomming materials low by same time raise proportionally the requirements it's obvious designed flaw not a simple mistake ...
The game encouraging higher levels to steal lowbies resources ( paid or earned in game )
I'm so tempted now to buy for example the 4* primes, but I'll not drop so much cash in such defective game ...
empty shell
We are testing primes now. Some lawyers are there who said they will take some legal actions in case primes aren't working. We were way too green when we got them but there are still some players that haven't bought them yet.
keen ledge
@nova sierra can you just fix the rss cost for all upgrading, buildings, research, and ship upgrades. Increase mining rates by a lot, increase protected to something like 75% instead so we could actually overnight mine, and make everything scale correctly.
You're really killing the upper player base and the people who dupe money into the game
ebon thistle
@nova sierra and this is why leveling at low levels 19 , 20 , 21 sucks , been farming none stop to try to get to 300 uncommon refine ore , 2x 50x a day and the common to uncommon rate is a joke ...we have a artificial slow down when there doesn't need to be one because the building itself already has a 4, 5, 6Day build timer ........yet we have to farm for damn weeks just to get enough uncommon so they have two artificial slow downs built into the system. Why? Why is there two slow downs when you only need 1. I can understand at level 35 to 50 having it but why at the low levels its a joke it doesn't help sustainability at all for this game...a casual player will quit if its too slow , you have to keep peoples attention and keep them moving not put up a wall like this game does.
grave stag
@nova sierra there has got to be a way to fix the power level structure. A player at 28 sitting at 2.2million power able to attack a player at 20 sitting at 415 k is insane.
This has got to be fixed. And narrowed drastically the higher you get rather than broadened.
ebon thistle
@grave stag the PVP bracket is a joke has been since the beginning ..there is no way a lv 19 can defend them selfs against a level 23 let alone against a 27
the pvp brackets shouldnt be more the 2 up and 2 down period a 19 should only be able to attack or be atacked by a 17 to 21
but hey they are afraid that all the people spending thousands would stop spending cause they have no one to attack .....heres an idea fix the uncommons brick wall to leveling and people would level and you wouldnt have to spread out the PVP brackets so much to still have people for the 27 to 31 level big spenders to attack
grave stag
On our server we have more than half the top 100 in power on the same alliance, as a matter of fact, 8 of the top 10 are. They make life hell for everyone else in the server and are killing the server because no one else can do anything.
ebon thistle
thats how all the servers are
this game wont last a year before the common/casual players leave
grave stag
It’s designed to attract them all together because they don’t want to lose the thousands they’ve spent fighting eachother
This has got to get fixed
ebon thistle
its designed for you to be a whale or get no where....that doesnt work you have to have a casual player base or the whales wont stick around to pay money ...it feels more like a 6 month money grab then a game they are wanting to sustain for the long term
i forsee server mergers in 6 months because of low active player bases across the board
they dont need just to do a small % change to leveling on uncommons they need to do a massive overhaul on the leveling system in general
and i just dont see them doing that
nothing you can do about high levels joining teams together , anything with alliances/guilds will do that ...all you can do is fix leveling , fix the pvp brackets. but they wont
nova sierra
That's actually one side of the gameplay problems ... wales shall be milked it's obvious that. But not letting the f2p to progress and play nicely the game will have to bring those spending players to leave
ebon thistle
there version of fixing uncommons is only fixing 3* and not touching 2* and only making it where instead of getting 0 to 10 you now get 0 to well still 10 cause they only increase it by a couple %. they need to massivly increase it or introduce new ways to get it , IE turning in Commons for uncommons IE refining 10 commons gets you 1 uncommon or something , or open up trading so players with stacks and stacks of uncommons and trade them or sell them in a market , speaking of market that level 50 market needs to be learned at 15 that would fix some problems , also events that give uncommons not 5, not 10 , but 25, 50 , 75 would go along ways to helping the uncommon brick wall
empty shell
Well i am part of top guild and we have 5/10 in top 10 and we forseen what will happen if we start killing those under us and casual players. Thats why we organized Discord chat with 20 top guild level leaders and introduced +500 rss hit rule and trying to keep server in peace . Some went on warpath and they had to be spanked, for sure, but at the moment there are no wars on server all are progressing with mining and looting inactive basses. I truly hope armada patch will save us because peace can't last forever. Such a bad design. And if you take closer look on your server it is a really small and people are quiting every day and its getting smaller and smaller.
ebon thistle
when they said they have a 3 to 5 year content planned ....what they ment was leveling is so slow no casual players will be lv 50 for 3 to 5 years
nova sierra
The gameplay shall provide all needed bits and pixels for upgrades/growth/evolution that's one problem, peoples who can afford & cash the game shall do things faster & better ... Problem is none of this happens in game now and that's awfull
empty shell
@ebon thistle No way you can reach 50 in 5 years
nova sierra
LoL @ 5 years hahhahahahha
Man look at lvl28 requirements
That level alone can't be upgrade in 3 yeas maybe
ebon thistle
yea im in the top alliance on my server too , the big problem is Uncommons or in better terms the requirements for building anything over level 19 needing them and lots of them just completely slows down the game , in the age of needing to keep peoples attention they sure picked a way they causes bored players
we have members that are 32 already so yea i know the requirments
idle forum
Are you guys just blowing off steam or do you believe that anyone other than players read this?
nova sierra
I have one guy in alliance at lvl28 he didn't had one rare ... All hes resources are bought
ebon thistle
@nova sierra yea which is why my comment them saying we have 3 to 5 years of content planned is ...we set the leveling requirments so high we dont need to make content for 3 to 5 years
nova sierra
Mining full time captain :-) nothing else to do
idle forum
Amen silence
empty shell
I am running 4 miner setup and laughing at what I get in 14 hours of mining compared with what I need
ebon thistle
mining full time for uncommons so yea bored need to talk somewhere while my alliance discord members are asleep lol
i honestly dont care if the devs or rep reads anything cause they wont fix it
nova sierra
My active gameplay is like 25-30 minutes daily ... Rest of time I just send miners out and recall them to unload each couple of hours
ebon thistle
yea my active game time is about the same the rest is sending out miners and watching tv till they are capped at protected then recallign them and back to tv
ebon thistle
no other way to level unless you want to spend thousands
we had a player spend nearly 3k already and he just got a complete refund from Google
idle forum
How?
empty shell
Mine is more much more , farming rep dailies and so on... there is alot of stuff there . But even when you hit 500k rep you need 400-500 $ to get faction ship or wait few years to collect faction credits which btw need increase in amount from dailies @nova sierra @potent cipher
nova sierra
To be honest I'm highly tempted to get those Nice 4* primes ... But ... Won't drop cash in such defective game. Not at this bugged game anyway
ebon thistle
He asked for a refund due to broken officers broken mining broken research abilitys sent screen shoots , got refund
idle forum
Ahhh
ebon thistle
the prim repair and prime repair cost doesnt work
nova sierra
Hmmm I have like tons of broken stuffs in game
empty shell
I'll try to ask it too then. maybe half it would be great.
ebon thistle
shows that it lowers the price in lat to repair but it still takes the full price
shows for example repair cost in lat 38 but it still takes the full 100 it cost with out the prime
idle forum
I have been stuck at 19 for a while now and can’t get the jelly or NS without using my cc
Not going to do it
ebon thistle
im been stuck at 19 for a month 😛
i have the jelly and NS but cant tier them cause of uncommon costs lol
nova sierra
I asked support of game for refunds of my stuffs they said no, wanna go to bank and ask there ... But maybe Google will help me better
ebon thistle
i need 700 uncommon gas to get my jelly to tier 6 or 7 cant remember which one
dont ask the game support go right to the google app store for it
idle forum
How many 1 star ratings and bad reviews will affect the game?
nova sierra
None
ebon thistle
my jelly is 1 item from tier 7 but need 700 uncommon gas to finish it
nova sierra
They will pay any farm review spammers to raise it back with $200 :-) and that's done
idle forum
700
idle forum
Yes it will
ebon thistle
but im still farming none stop for ops 20 still need 30 more uncommon ore for that and been farming it for a month now
im betting once i hit 20 it will take 2 months farming uncommon gas before i can finish the jelly to tier 7
nova sierra
My ops 22 cooldowns finish within hours rushed 20/21/22 in hope for second level refinery
idle forum
If you’re lucky
nova sierra
Zoey can You check please prv msg ?
ebon thistle
i wont be level 22 for 6 months or a year at the uncommon rate unless they fix it
idle forum
No time for that
nova sierra
Why? You bussy mining :-))?
idle forum
😂
nova sierra
LoL, just started academy lvl22 upgrades :-)) base can hold 320k brown rss, price for upgrades? Awesome 1mil :-)) thanks for the lowbies plundered lately I actually afford to click there but ... Those fkers whom I stole hundreds worth of pixels bet they wont buy anything more for quite some time :-)
Good job devs! 👎 & gameplay design team, within max 6 months most probably your income from those packs will drop nicely :-)
How on name of god someone been thinking to allow an lvl18-19 player to attack an lvl16 noob it's beyound my comprehention! The power differene, resources needed & available targets it's obvious nothing to brag with
@ lvl22 chosing side mission game ask for relocation base to another system, no relocation token tho :-) ... Only way to get those seems to be from those awesome packs of rss ... Bet You can't wait to buy it right ? Guess another bit left there by design to drive peoples nuts :-))
ebon thistle
@nova sierra you get relocation tokens doing dailys
i got 5 of them doing nothing other than what i do daily anyways i also get them in the 24 hour box
gloomy oasis
@nova sierra wait till you notive a level 30 can attack a level 22-23.
. ^_^
nova sierra
None in server such high yet
Just one wale I think is29 but already halfway quited :-))
Zoey ... Too good to be true last my relocation token I got been last week LoL, used to move closer to a base holding millions rss ready to steal 🖖
fresh citrus
@nova sierra there is a huge problem with progression at higher levels. I'm currently 28 with all researches and buidings pretty much done that can be made without months of refining uncommon materials. The rate of uncommons that can be obtained from refining doesnt match with buildings needing 200-300 uncommon each. I have strongly encouraged players to not pay for station progression at this point as it will only lead to where I am. Cant progress anything since uncommons are a bottle neck. I get a building and a research every two weeks, or I can pay around 300 euros to build a building. It's become a mining simulator for me.
wheat oak
@fresh citrus And a single T7 phaser bank for Kehra needs 3 ultimate ship packs-worth of rares
fresh citrus
I know, and if it's a question of stalling progression for dev teams to make 30+ content ready then I feel like I been scammed to pay for progression if its stalled by purpose with these resources.
@nova sierra The fact that your progress is hindered by an artificial border that, once removed, will nullify your investment up until this point cant be accepted.
crude kindle
@fresh citrus officers all worked in beta lol as did factionship mining buffs. They were disabled at the November relaunch (not that devs will admit) to slow mining rates and progression. There is little to no content past lvl28 at this stage...darkspace unlocks at lvl38, but itll take 5 years to get there at the current rss accrual rates. Welcome to the pain us founder server guys have been living with for 6 months. Just have to be patient because as you rightly point out, buying packs will not help. Not when you need 17k g3 to upgrade a cargo bay, or 150m par to upgrade 1 building, or 2m tri to repair a ship. Dont get me wrong...not being bitter...but thats the life at lvl32...times it by 2 if you can get to lvl34!
nova sierra
I have an rather huge dilema :-) why on name of god the genies behind the game needed to put two sets of similar officers ( kirk & cadet kirk / spok & instructor spok and so on) the Enterprise crew and another time crew is similar If not the same ... Really doubt someone actually will be able ever to have ships and crews for those officers. Since You can use a very limited numbers of officers alloted to active dry docks ( for the note officers aren't set to ships rather ship is alloted to docks and then the officers to docks )
Like ... Where is the point to have two fighting officers available ( kirk & cadet kirk lets say) when You actually have to mine countless hours daily for months If not years to come?
Just to look at the shards pilling up I suppose, yeah is true You have for sale those awesome officers packs with exp & so ... Awesome feature for what we all have to be thankfull :-) ... LoL
nova sierra
Hey guys, I am reading through all of these and logging them to take to the team.
As I am seeing it the main recent complaint (and yes, I see there are more going back) are moving between levels, relatedly - refine rates, and pvp (specifically punching down).
I am level 22 -going on 23, and I remember the pain of 19-20. I feel it got a little easier after that... i think? I certainly feel I got to 22 in a hurry after that.
As I always say, the team is constantly looking at balance - but this feedback all helps. Please, keep it coming.
faint cape
STOP allowing raids to take $$$ resources. if money bought it, they can't take it.
@nova sierra add a stop warp button so if you hit the wrong button, you can stop..
Make all attacks +/-3 for ALL levels. A lvl22 being raided by a lvl28 is outrageous.
nova sierra
Why is this game still unbalanced... well not balanced at all... people are going to abandon this game .....
fresh citrus
@faint cape i disagree with you strongly about those changes. Theres a reson someone is bigger than you and he should get to enjoy his effort or w/e he pit into the game. Everything equal and living safe in a bubble doeant make any game intresting. The stop warp is needed thou.
nova sierra
@fresh citrus i disagree with your repply. There is a very large unbalnce in the game.... if the balance is not corrected you get a real PAY TO WIN game. In that case you lose your base of players and the game will die.... That you can buy for faster upgrades etc.. fine by me but the 5 levls is way to much to play with fun or put in the effort / time to upgrade by playing the game...
fresh citrus
This game has bigger issues as soon enough we are all lvl29 with no chance of building or researching anything. There is no content above of that reachable to anyone.
nova sierra
Thats no issue, they need to develop it further. Furthermore about balance.. i'm lvl 18 and I can't attack lvl14... level23 can attack me.... that is strangly balanced..... 🤔
I'm also unable to defend my station against lvl23 100K plus ships
wispy crow
Are you taking the lvl15 unlock into account?
nova sierra
@wispy crow That you can unlock more on lvl15 ... yes. it's logical that we can't attack lvl14... but the balance is not present... lvl18 can be attacked by lvl23.... that way out of proportions...
wispy crow
I got a quest to hit lvl 24 hostiles before I hit 18
It's fubar, but apparently the limitations are there to be stretched.
fathom copper
Nice changes to hostile event, with 6 point and 20 points for higher lvl hostiles, that a quliaty of life improvement 👍
fathom copper
12 G3 batches today and i got 3 G3 uncommen crystals wtf last 5 days more or less same droprate.....
So we are back to the old droprates before the update around 4-5%, anyone else experience this?
nova sierra
@wispy crow because you got a Jelly + great faction score at 18 i bet (hit 24s). I only spent $20 so progressing slower so just now at 19.9 being asked to hit 23s. At your pace & expectations you will never be happy.
wispy crow
But... I was already happy? Perfectly so?
fathom copper
Got two G3 rare drops, but the thing is they set the droprate op for some weeks just to lower it again, without saying anything, is like the worst scam, and most off the players dont have anything good to say about the dev team
wispy crow
I do.
If you think this is a bad ST game, you haven't been around long enough to have seen the others. Trust me.
true barn
Relocation token drop rates have reduced significantly. Not sure if that is due to level progression, system updates or having purchased a pack with them in it, but I received 1 during the last week after completing all dailies and opening all 24 hour chests, along with multiple 4 hour chests per day. Without relocation tokens, I can stare at my miners while waiting for 12 minute warp times, neither of which will keep me in the game.
wispy crow
Hm.... I actually noticed the same... Ever since I dinged 19 they seem to have stopped dropping
I just figured it was down to the same old story :
true barn
made the mistake of purchasing a pack with 2 tokens in it. Now that "they know" I was willing to buy, I don't get them from completing daily or the timed chests
wispy crow
Well I purchased that pack 2 weeks in, and saw no change in apparent droprates, so in my view that may not be the case.
wicked jetty
Either they are messing with the drop rate globally or its level based. I've gotten a few at 19 but used to get way more at the level 10-12 range
wispy crow
That I have also observed. But two players is not a statistically relevant sample size....
true barn
1 in the last say 3 levels vs 12-15 in the levels before 20, cant imagine thie statistics behind that.
that is the single biggest reason to complete the daily for me, or used to be
wicked jetty
The daily rewards or the 24 h chest?
Because the daily rewards are static and tell you what they will be. They don't drop relocation tokens
true barn
The majority I have received have come from 24 hour chests, but I have received them form the daily
This week, the only one I received was from a PVE chest
wicked jetty
I don't remember what level range they dropped from the daily rewards but I do remember they did at some point
I know for a fact at level 15+ they dont
bold cedar
So why now all of a sudden it costs so much for ship repair? i.e. dilithium. This game is turning, all of a sudden, to play, you must pay. Don't get greedy like Machine Zone did to Game of war fire age. You will lose players real quick @nova sierra
bronze basin
i've picked up 1 relocation token since hitting 18 a few weeks back
main herald
Dilithium is way too difficult to acquire in meaningful quantities. The dilithium warehouse is too small for my needs, even with dilithium storage maxed out, and the dilithium generators aren't productive enough, even with prime resources and dilithium fusion maxed out.
unique tartan
hit pakled
main herald
I do hit pakled, but it takes me over an hour to mine 15k, and I don't always have the time to spend an hour tapping on a screen. It's an exhausting process and I just wish the generators could be more productive, that's all.
unique tartan
Cool...I see your point but lets say you reach level 50... Then what? All mobile games are designed like this to keep us suckers playing and coining. I too am low on dill and grinding away..wish you a happy game @main herald
main herald
Thanks. Wish you a happy game too.
nova sierra
Everyone is happy with their mining game ?😂
white axle
In what world is 20 Mil Dil worth 4 crates of phaser rifles, another mission I wont be doing because of the silly requirements vs rewards https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/531482232599347200/541211290203324417/image0.png
inner plaza
dude, its phaser rifles!!!!
deft nexus
I bet that's a good deal. I bet, in reality, 4 crates of phaser rifles actually cost 30M ...
nova sierra
Please fix all the broken mines
Please fix the broken rewards for station upgrade events
Please stop all the ‘donation’ missions
nova spade
Just fix login error and im happy.
mint jasper
@nova sierra @nova sierra @potent cipher This guy on our server always on our server evading filter, using racial / homophobic slurs.
Reporting him for the past week, seems to have done nothing.
nova spade
ok changed my mind.. i can login now.... buuut cannot do any missions since no npc fly around (is untargatable).. cannot mine... cannot really do anything. battle ship is stuck somewhere... just restart the damn servers or something.
nova sierra
Pepca they said you have to hard reset the game :-) and cross fingers maybe works;-)) similar on how you had to restart computers with windows milenium 😂
nova spade
it doesnt trust me
nova sierra
Awesome :-) there been a chance maybe work, to be honest I see strange such behavior isnt happening more often
nova spade
no one on server can attack npcs... cannot do event or daily or anything
nova sierra
You didn't leveled enought the creditcards guys! :-)
Check If buy buttons works
I can bet that work 😂
Buy any small pack those €5 or so with 250 latnium
nova spade
i would but i cannot do it with paypal so their loss
nova sierra
If that's working then the game is working as intented
I have that option enabled to pass the bill in mobile carrier :-)
I doubt PayPal will be enabled there LoL will be so nice to dispute the wrong judgment I did when I press that evil buttons.
Good thing is you guys have like 10hours more for this solo missions to complete
Maybe later :-) ...
In meantime good for peoples who has miners out on good spots
Full cargo until they reset the game for you
crimson coral
@mint jasper there a lot of racists on that server. The devs have a way of showing their support by ignoring it.
@mint jasper keep all the information and glitches. Then write apple or Microsoft and show how the game violates its own terms of service rules. Compile evidence of all the bugs and you make your case the game doesn’t work as intended and get a full refund. Enough people do this and money is just drained from the pockets of scopely and they will fix the issues or go bankrupt.
trim rose
We should be able to see who is putting in work for their own alliance. The event isnt done properly. They need to figure things out. At 19 hitting a 19 gave me one point and now that I am 20 hitting a 20 gives me one point. My ships aren’t high enough to rack 300 in a short amount of time. Especially with the amount of time repairs take and the trips going back and forth if you live in the faction space you’re favored with. And the timing is just unbelievable.. why aren’t we getting alerts for upcoming events? Why do I have to wake up and find the other alliance ahead because they’re up earlier than me. Changes need to made to this game. Rewards are not appealing
****We need better rewards! Notifications for upcoming events!! Better controls for leaders in alliances. Like viewing members activity and more ranks! Fix it where alliances can’t have other members contribute towards their points if they join mid event! Allow us to drop quests we don’t want! Allow leaders to view who ranked in events and how much they contributed. A lot of alliances have sister alliances. Give us a chat page that lets us connect with theirs. Or give us an ability to connect with sister alliances so we don’t hit them when we’re one and the same. Fix the NS. I bought it and I can’t believe the protection is so low. Please let us know you are aware of the complaints and that you are working on them.
vestal ridge
Sounds like you may be leveling ops too fast and not your ships to be able to keep up. I’m also a lvl19 ops (pending materials to go to 20) and I knock out the 300 pts in about an hour or so. No I did not buy my ships before anyone asks 😊 I run the event with a tier 6 Talla and a maxed Phindra.
nova sierra
All the missions and events have insane/unreal requirements. They feel like that just because the game progression is not documented first of all, second game lets you to pick missions way too ahead of curent stage of the game, that shall not be possible at all, at any levels & all power stage someone is in game there are things Impossible to be done because of wrong way you reach this point.
All actions, all missions all events in game shall be a tool to deliver players bits&pixels needed to advance in game not to force them to consume resources & make them buy packs! One example of this is the daily 25 killing mission, keep giving same and same rewards what I can do with 1000+ interceptor parts? When my extreme urgent need is several pixels from the crystal ... Yeah I know If I wanna have it now I can buy ...
nova sierra
Another awesome event done for me, time required to complete? Around 25 minutes maybe 30. Repairs underway for my awesome ship & time for my brave commander to retire and switch to 23h job of mining :-) whole game active its done and that's all ... Actually that's a game of mining operations, with a twist for some fights working for some rewards I don't really need at this point but maybe the pixels will be good in future.
Oh 20 minutes now I see ( time difference between those two messages ) LoL :-) thats an record even for me :-)
nova sierra
The game shall be split by two main ideas: 1. Active gameplay ( where peoples have to ride those ships, travel, do various tasks - like fighting, get/give various items ); this option is present in-game unfortunatelly this most of time produce costs in terms of repairs + time waiting for repairs with little to no rewards!
- Passive gameplay ( we know it like "mining"), it's awesome. For peoples who are busy, for peoples who have limited time to spend in game, even overnight ... Telling you guys that's just awesome! Well ... Except part when some highly deranged individual thinks is cool to attack your mining ship :-)) ... But, I found If You and your alliance is strong enough and beat the sht out of the aggresors they somehow stops doing that :-) just need to keep stealing their resources, and attack them ALLOT. Mining is cool! Well, gets You some nice resources use them for growing/refinery ... That's cool.
unique tartan
For a name like @nova sierra you actually are quite the opposite...Love it 😃
nova sierra
😂
Most of the time I keep it for myself :-) not always is true :-) ...
Plus usually I have a very acute lack of imagination when comes over chosing my nicknames :-)
Even used sometime "Idonthaveanusername" like my user :-)))
My email from the phone when peoples ask for it 99% of time I have to say it 3-4 times because peoples thinks I'm joking :-)) it's translated " email from phone " 🤔
nova sierra
@nova sierra can u guys, please, put a question mark or some kind of marker, on the systems that have new missions? Just like u marked the active missions.
@nova sierra furthermore, we need to be able to see when a player was active last, and we need a way to remove inactive players that keep spots occupied around planets
sterile tiger
We need to able to know EVERY change'you make in an update and not first spend a sh itload of rss and come to the conclusion you nitwits changed the rules for specific buildings in events. Result more sale to recover lost rss which could be avoided for a while and put in other stuff
trim rose
@vestal ridge I’m not leveling ops too fast....
Sounds like you stayed at your level for a very long time if you have your ships at that tier.
sterile current
@trim rose flyboy is actually right, I am in exactly same position as him, lvl19 with tier 6 Talla and maxed Phindra. I didn't stayed too long, I am always building something, but I update operations only after all other buildings are on level. And I mine a lot, with three miners, so that is how I managed to update all the ships to that level. I make my 300 points for event in one hour with repair time included, by farming 22 lvl battleships with my Phindra, only 15 needed in three rounds of 5. So it is possible with normal f2p gameplay. I can only suggest investing time in mining and upgrading ships
trim rose
And no interruptions whatsoever? No one constantly hitting your ships? Lucky you then
sterile current
I am playing on server where major alliances are in agreement that miners without loot for attacker shouldn't be attacked. I rotate miners regularly when mined amount is at limit of protected cargo, so my miners are usually getting destroyed only during the night, and sometimes during the war with other alliances. Being member of strong alliance also helps to not get attacked. So, yeah, lucky me. Point is, event is manageable even for f2p players.
trim rose
Well lucky you.
🙄 your response is a joke. Your issue is that you assumed it’s possible to have a ship at that power in every server. You like the other guy assumed I pushed thru ops when I didn’t. If I was pushing I would have been 20 a long time ago. Not all servers started at the same time. I researched more than anything. I upgraded all of my builds before I built ops. Next time you and the other guy want to say it’s me and not the game. Consider all of the possibilities I just mentioned. I am in a strong alliance. My server is constantly at war. There is no mercy for empty miners if alliances war and there is no mercy for their bases. You must be playing in a docile server. There are many players who aren’t even close to my ship power and it’s weak and they’re the same level as me. And then you have the big spenders who are already close to 30.
sterile current
Well you are wrong, my server is very active, and we also have wars and unreasonable individuals. The thing is that wars usually wear people downafter some time, so peace is usually imminent and more lasting than war. And people are standing up against bullies, and not hiding from them. I can just say tough luck about your server, if people cannot enjoy game, they will stop playing it and your server will certainly die before mine. But I am just saying, it is perfectly reasonable for lvl 19 400k power player to be able to finish this event in a short time, and it was totally uncalled for you to call this experience based opinion "a joke"
trim rose
You didn’t consider any possibility at all. You assumed. So it is a joke
Your experience? You’re on one server. You don’t even know what other servers are like. So how does your experience seem accurate and mine isn’t?
twilit slate
Really guys, just chill. Each server is unique but all servers will go through the same thing from time to time, war, peace, pain in the butt players, winnable events, non-winnable events, etc. There is no need for having a go at each other and insulting one another.
sterile current
You started with assumptions about state of my server buddy, and you was first one to call other people's experience "a joke", so there's that. Good luck with you game on server where apparently no f2p can finish the daily event @trim rose
trim rose
I didn’t insult the guy. He took it as an insult because I called his opinion a joke. An insult would be more hurtful
I didn’t start anything?
.
twilit slate
Well one or both of you calm your farm and be the bigger man and walk away. Not worth getting into it, life is too short to get worked up over a game.
trim rose
Dude you made assumptions about my server and you assumed all servers run the same. And then you went ahead and told me in summary that I’m wrong and that your experience says I’m wrong because your server has rules.
I’m not worked up over a game. I could careless. It’s how he spoke as if knows better. Ugh
sterile current
I see you're upset so I'll just leave it at this.
trim rose
Not upset. Enjoy your day
twilit slate
I tried, nite all
idle shore
Devs, if you want me to spend money on your game, which I have, at least get the basics to work. I'm sub 400k and was raided overnight by player above 900k power rating, fairs fair however, that's the game, I get it. But I didn't receive 1 notification telling me this was going on
In the end I lost 3mill parsteel, 1mill trit and 250k dilithium which I can only get back through paying more money. Please either make it easier for lower level players to get their own back on the big guns or at least make sure the notifications work
I've got PLENTY of peace shields, but wasn't given the opportunity to use them
In the end I'll probably end up uninstalling this game, been really enjoying it but after forking out almost £100 to lose it all against attacks I knew nothing about and could do nothing about is pretty soul destroying
nova spade
@idle shore with so much unprotected resources.... why didnt you pop up the shield if you have so many lol
vestal ridge
@insurgent#6937 I didn’t assume, I said “it sounds like”. There are tons of variables. With such a hot server maybe it will take even longer, or there needs to be another creative solution. It sounds like it’s even possible for a server to be so combative it’s impossible to do anything but PvP 100% of the time. In my opinion, that really sucks and I would be super frustrated too. I certainly spent a lot of time being farmed by the hostile pvp players but sounds like I had it better than you. I can’t blame Scopely for that though...that’s just a majority of players making aspects of the game unplayable. Hope your server learns and lets up on it a bit. Good luck!
neat basin
Can you move an account from IOS to android?
carmine jay
No chance, completely different stores etc.
wicked jetty
Support can do it @neat basin
neat basin
Think sir, tried mailing them, must be the weekend holding it up, ty tho
tight loom
How do you report some one that keep harassing you and is getting paid to hit your base over and over again
inner plaza
report for?
tight loom
Harassment I had a seizure I laid down I woke up and have seen screenshots that somebody is paid this guy in Google Play card to hit my bass over and over again
inner plaza
you have a "block"-option in chat and you can use a shield to prevent him from attacking your base
so?
thats not harassment
it's playing the game
tight loom
So did the fact the guy has cussed me out cause me to go into a seizure after I have dumped over $500 at this game of loan to build up my shifts and stuff does it mean nothing
hushed swift
You spent all that money, but didnt buy shields? Not excusing it but..
tight loom
Yes I did buy shield but when some one is pay this person thought goggle pay cards how is that right
hushed swift
Its not.
I cant imagine anyone paying someone in google cards to hit anyone, you all are nuts
inner plaza
tbh it's none of your business who pays who what for... if he decides to attack you for whatever reason over and ovre again that's totally fine and within any terms/rules/whatever
tight loom
But to case some one to go into a seizure is against Texas state laws so unless you work for the company of this game s1nnlos stfu
inner plaza
only advice i can give for you is stop playing when you don't enjoy it anymore - and that holds for any game. don't let your 500$ investment force you to play a non-pleasurable game
or maybe use a 7d shield and take a break 🤷
meager ocean
Here I leaded in power the server since the beginning. Around level 30 the game starts to require unreasonable amount of resources, a lot of people quit at this stage, I really hope devs will review the upgrades requirements and package pricing as the balance between people who will stay longer and people leaving is not going to satisfy them. There is no higher level content, PVP requires stupid amount of money to fuel the war efforts, so much that more than often is cheaper to avoid raiding (yes I lead the raiding numbers here too). My suggestion is to take a break and review the overall money machine.
rare roost
@meager ocean unfortunately I dont think the devs have the knowledge of game economics to solve this issue, the previous game they released had the exact same problem. they've never corrected the design faults, they just dont understand rss taps and sinks
thats not going to stop me suggesting fixes but the games fundamentally flawed, dont hold your breath.
meager ocean
@rare roost Well Cypher thank you fort the comment, if this is the reality, uninstall and go next pretty soon, together with the highest ranked players of my server. It's better for them to check how much money people like me have put in the game so far and get conscious that blindness is not going to save their present customers, more this will be the last of their games installed into my devices. Market rules are not optional for any business, the more I invest the more I get demanding. By failing this, they remove any chance of future for the game, and TBH it's just a shame.
rare roost
Scopely get fast cash and the devs get investees based on the fake success of the title. Jesus Christ the games industry fing sucks now.
meager ocean
None can afford to lose their best customers, does not matter if you act with a touch and go tactics to monetize fast. They fail, Scopely will be my "bad" sw house to talk about, and have 15k people in my connections. Do they really think this works in 2019? Come on.
rare roost
@ad @meager ocean I hate to break it to you but scopely just got several more millions from VC investment, they don't care about the profits from the game at all, its all to get more investees then run off with the money.
brittle quarry
Why would one still get 2* parts and materials when already lv24 and only hunt in lv 21+. If I would need any of these things I would go to lower level systems. 😡
slim atlas
@brittle quarry still get 2* in lvl 29
lament trout
Still waiting for the mining nodes to get fixed ... so many dead ones and not nearly enough crystal mines available both 2 and 3 star
brittle quarry
@slim atlas that’s ridiculous.
vital plank
@potent cipher is this working as intended?....
my teammates base 200k got one shot by an 150k miner
you must change a few things urgently, or I doubt that you can keep players for a longer time 😔
and that would be a shame, cause this game has big potentials
potent cipher
gonna check the specific here, as i'm not the most proficient atm in terms of base attack, ty!
nova sierra
Can we get a rare g3 crystal refining boost? Currently chances are at 1/82882818188282882288818188744637281199837363626722891992873773
vital plank
thx
pallid peak
I actually think the chances are lower than that
nova sierra
@nova sierra You get more as you level.
But you'll transition from wanting uncommon to wanting uncommon and rare. But at least you can get batches of 10-20
carmine jay
More perhaps @nova sierra but the chances remain the same and its pitiful. I am level 28 and also same feedback from a level 31.
How high do you want us to go? 😬
nova sierra
Yes, I agree it is too low. They need to increase output and offer guarantees at certain levels instead of chance. Even if it is just 10-20 per refinement. I also have this working theory that you'll get higher yields the farther you are away from an upgrade and then as you get closer the yields drop which pushes you into the store.
I'm just about to go to 28. Going to see how much ore I can refine to upgrade ops. Not too into buying multiple packs just to upgrade ops to 28.
pure walrus
@vital plank Basestrength on Seconds screen shows overall power incl. all buildings. The first one shows power of defense.
nova sierra
For example I've been getting 10-20 uncommon per refinement but notta from gas for a few days. Well, I'm relatively flush with gas (no pun intended) and I have been seeing basically no yields. However, I am crystal poor and have been getting yields up until I got near an upgrade (~40 away). It is anecdotal at the moment. But I'm going to watch out for it.
indigo ivy
You really got to look at the level disparity, even if you have every ship you own with best power you can not defend against someone 8 levels higher. All you are going to do is discourage people from playing the game. Base defense and overall pvp metric needs to be address badly.
indigo ivy
Just live under a shield? That’s the answer from being hit by people 8 levels higher?
nova sierra
If you are online that guy has no chance becuse you can regen hull and/or shield
He'll move on in like 10m
indigo ivy
And people that have jobs and can’t do that and their shield falls still have no chance at defense
The problem still exists
indigo ivy
I’ve got two so no I have to be smart with them
nova sierra
How many 8hr shields?
indigo ivy
A handful because I use them all the time
nova sierra
If you are doing it totally F2P and have purchased no packs then it would be difficult yes.
But conversely I doubt you'd have much loot worth hitting.
I have around 200 1 day shields
indigo ivy
Well none of that is super helpful thanks
nova sierra
Even if a shift in levels some at 24 could still loot that base
with envoys
Only way to fix it would be to incur loot penalties level by level
indigo ivy
That or make it +/-3 levels
wicked jetty
Keeping ships at home makes a huge difference in base defense
Also use your alliance tokens for peace shields
viscid yew
My biggest gripe atm. Private chats disappear... Really an issue with inter alliance diplomatic relations
long sun
Just curious... Anyone else starting to feel like your galaxy is becoming a graveyard of abandoned accounts? Surely there is some way this gets cleaned out and new players added?
cold plaza
Game wont let me change our alliance profile because of profanity.... really? Did the entire Facebook Police effort find employment with the developers?
wheat oak
Try changing the GOT. Maybe means God in some language or another 🙄
dusty violet
I would be surprised if this hasn't been suggested, but I figure I'd throw it out there again: Have the devs ever considered smaller packs for more specific items? For instance, just a pack that carries G3 refined materials or a large quantity of Tritanium. One thing missing about the in-game store is the micro part of micro-transactions. Give us a $10, 5m tritanium pack and you'll likely find more players opening up their wallets.
radiant thunder
Or a build your own pack for purchases. Assign a base value to everything and let me go in and select what i want in my purchase and then i pay for that. Maybe have bonuses at certain amounts of stuff or money spent. Ie for every 5mil steel bought, you get 1mil free. Or every $10 gets you $1 worth of additonal free stuff to add.
I could see not having some things available for purchase, but would eliminate the waste of getting all these 2* materials I'll probably never have a use for again
dusty violet
Wouldn't mind that either. There are times when I say "I could use a few million tritanium, or another 50 uncommon resource, but I'm not buying a $99 pack for just that."
They should capitalize on a need when it exists.
hexed wharf
Can we get Ferengi outposts that allow us to sell/trade resources?
nova sierra
Or a market building?
hexed wharf
Level 50. I'm so close...
nova sierra
I would happily swap dilithium for relocation tokens
keen meadow
Id happily swap relocation tokens for Dilithium or Tritanium
inner plaza
i'll happily take both
nova sierra
@hexed wharf How close?
nova sierra
@nova sierra lv34 24hr chests drops are ridiculous, for over two weeks now I have had 30 latinum and 20 standard recruit tokens everyday, except yesterday I got an extra 10 lat on top. Others have also noticed a lack of relocation tokens dropping. Have the drop rates been tweaked?
indigo ivy
I got a token today from my 24 hour chest and I got one yesterday too
kindred cloak
@nova sierra i have from 24hr chest 7 days 3 tokens of reloceit, there were pauses of 10 days
Me lvl 27
but the fact that the reward is at level 1 and 34 is the same is absurd @nova sierra
nova sierra
Rub it in why don't ye 😡 😉
kindred cloak
I stopped robbing players a couple of weeks ago, because for me it is senseless due to the fact that there are no G3 resources for improvement and now I have enough trithenia, steel and dilithium with events
rare roost
Now imagine you get raided @kindred cloak and the game doesnt notify you and you lose all of that, what would you end up having to do?
teal pier
kindred cloak
@rare roost I would have robbed the players in order to return the resources, but my station is always guarded by one ship and if I have not been online for a long time then under the shield, despite the fact that I am in the top 5 on the server
I robbed from 15 to 25 level now I do not see the point
rare roost
I understand that I'm asking how you would recover from having zero resources, if your ships are destroyed you cant afford the repair costs @kindred cloak
what would you do?
What do you imagine every other player does in that situation
kindred cloak
I raid other payers
rare roost
@kindred cloak you can't, your ships are destroyed and you cant afford the repair costs. It will take 2 days to slowly get the rss together to repair them, what do you do?
kindred cloak
Lol, you have generator rss for repier ship
rare roost
so you'd wait the 2 days
kindred cloak
For wat?
rare roost
the rss get generated so slowly it takes 2 days to get enough to repair your ships
rare roost
But thats the current system, if your base gets zero'd you dont have enough for the repair costs of high level ships, you can't afford to raid anyone, your stuck leeching from your teammates. till you get enough to sustain yourself
rare roost
You keep thinking like a player that already has everything
Half all of the vault protection, thats what everyone else has
People that dont have prime protection
kindred cloak
I have large stocks, but I farm only those NPS which are 100% repaid ship repair
rare roost
@kindred cloak heres the point I'm making, the game is perfectly fine, if you spend a minimum of $400+ to get all of the prime mods that allow you to play properly
If you dont then its agony.
Basicly, this game is playable if you spend $400+, its unplayable if you dont.
kindred cloak
it all depends on patience, I agree that the economy in the game is complete shit
but recovering the rss is not difficult, on the server where I play there is a strong alliance of pirates who robs without premium packages
rare roost
@kindred cloak it doesnt come down to patience, the prime mods and power system means you pay to win, the limits on rss capacity means you have to pay to gather rss to build anytthing so you have to pay
kindred cloak
if you don’t have enough rush, but if you play as a f2f player you have enough resources from events and pharma nps, it just takes a lot of time in the game
if a player plays an hour a day, he will not be able to develop without investments, if you play an average of 10 hours, then the problem is only in rc G2 and G3
rare roost
@kindred cloak Your not getting it,
I've played a ton of freemium games over the years, this game doesnt allow you to speed up something that takes hours to farm, it punishes you for not spending by making it take 5 days to farm.
I can play 2 hours of clash of clans and farm the same amount of resources this game allows you farm over a week. how does that make any damn sense????????????
kindred cloak
For me, this game is an ordinary grid, like other games of this kind
rare roost
@kindred cloak because you're spending money
kindred cloak
now the flared clans of the clans has become so simple, at the time of its launch the resources were not so easily reached
I repeat the economy here is complete shit
rare roost
No they weren't, but they had time, added content, kept at it, lowered costs, built a community and planned for the long term, now does that sound like anything scopely would even be remotely capable of doing?????
And I'll remind you as I;ve done everyone else, this is digits SECOND game, It uses the exact same design as kings of the realm, this system has been tested for over 4 years. This is not something new
kindred cloak
but I know a lot of players who have not invested a penny and now they have 22 23 ops, and they do not complain
I, too, infuriates a lot in this game, it is clear from the fact that I did not play beta, I don’t understand you
and I worry that because of this support service, the game can die quickly
I weep, the bonus officers miners work on the North Star, but does not work on all other ships @nova sierra
nova sierra
Tested and verified @kindred cloak ?
kindred cloak
Y
my ns Tire 6 TIR without an officer G3 crystal extraction rate about 3250 per hour with an officer in one minute 75 x 60 = 4500
and the joke with the timer mine is empty and shows that there is still mining, a couple of minutes I will send screenshots
wicked jetty
can also confirm my northstar mines faster with higher health officers
nova sierra
Not disputing the health bonus, I would be rather surprised if I saw an accurate timer run to completion with stonn tpring or barot in the captains chair, better yet all 3 on the bridge
cold plaza
I'm pretty tired of being attacked while I'm still showing warping. Fix your shit
kindred cloak
do warp on the system boundary, there will be no problem
You selection system and warp to center system ?
cold plaza
I pick a specific spot to warp to
I'll be attacked while the time is still showing me warping so I cant move or recall or respond or anything
kindred cloak
Are you doing a warp by choosing a point when system in or from the map? @cold plaza
wicked jetty
oh i misread what we were debating, i can throw barot on and try it later @nova sierra
inner plaza
i have the same issue
i warp to the edge whre im coming from
but appearantly my ship tries to warp into the middle
and then get to the edge from there
nova sierra
@kindred cloak pictures seem to show it working correctly, will dust off the north star tomorrow and try it myself
inner plaza
and on the way still shows as "warping" and can and will get killed
tried to farm some more reputation, not possible atm 🤷 ship just dies before i can maneuver it
nova sierra
For the warp issue, you can select a mine and click mine button, this will wake the ship up if in system or refresh the timer if not there yet
Same with mission planets and set course button
inner plaza
but i cant click mine if its in warp o.o can i?
nova sierra
You can
nova sierra
👍
heady mortar
Still sux tryin to convert it into uncommon or rare rss to use.
nova sierra
So...according to Scopely support, the double-tap bug (the one that sometimes acts as the "go" function and other times doesn't) is WAI. @nova sierra , thoughts?
keen meadow
Everything is working as intended, except when it benefits you, then its quickly fixed.
kindred cloak
@nova sierra officer Stoun ship NS 1 min 90 ore
offcer Stoun ship NS ,90 Gas 1 min
nova sierra
so @kindred cloak that would suggest the increased mining rate is the health boost rather than the type specific captain maneuver
kindred cloak
the speed of extraction is the same means the officer does not work
@nova sierra yes
nova sierra
told you so 😋
nova sierra
@nova sierra sooo...nothing? Should i take your silence as confirmation that what i said is true? The alleged bug is actually WAI?
nova sierra
@nova sierra The team are aware of the Admiral issue. Currently, I don't have an update on a solution - but I hope soon I will have some news.
@nova sierra The activity thing is certainly something the team are looking at. A marker for systems with new missions as they are added certainly seems like a good call too - Ill mention it to them.
As to the double tap bug, this is something the team are looking into. If you can record any over the shoulder gameplay of the issue - or something that records taps you could share with me, that would them investigate.
@vital plank Being hit by a miner isn't impossible if the defence platforms have been taken down so the base is weakened down from full power. But I see your larger point.
@nova sierra Rough at the top with those crates? Not sure about drop rates though - hearing a lot regarding relocation tokens at the moment, and have mentioned them to the team. If your level 34 I really don't think I am going to bump into you any time soon on our server Phil.
@kindred cloak The miners skills work on the NS? I know the ship's own buff does, but not the miners. I believed their buffs were still being worked on for all ships.
bright niche
I’m pretty sure that this is what you call a POWER IMBALANCE.
inner plaza
this is what you call "no shield"
bright niche
There are not enough shields in the universe to protect against a blowhole. But thanks for chiming in sin
inner plaza
sorry but i didnt get your point. there are people stronger than you who can attack. the same way as you can attack lvl 15
that's why you need a shield at night - and you do get shields with daily misisons - and when working
if people werent able to attack each other because of "balance" - what a boring game woudl this be
placid rain
are faction credits or speed ups more worth it in the mid- to late game?
bold mirage
faction credits are far more valuable always
you get a ton of speedups from dailies
and you need faction credits for ships
nova sierra
@nova sierra let me know when you turn 23 and I'll organise a little party 🎆
@nova sierra 4 days and counting...
bright niche
@inner plaza The game has already become boring. Again.. thanks for chiming in.
sullen ginkgo
The biggest thing that annoys me about the game is that you can’t get ahead through hard work. I would have made all the prime research pay only, still allow to buy rare ships, but then allow the rest to be earned through more gameplay by earning the uncommon and rare resources some other way. As it is now, if I had two players who each spent $100 on the game, with one playing 1 hour a day and the other playing 10 hours a day, you would have trouble telling them apart after a month.This is because $100 is at least a year’s worth of game time. Make money, fine, but you still need to provide a reason to play the game.
nova sierra
Oooh so exciting @nova sierra
sullen ginkgo
I just feel there is no reason to do anything but refresh my miners and do my refinery twice a day, because the game is gated by these two (and only these two) things. Nothing else matters.
nova sierra
@nova sierra it sounds very odd that you get klingon credits in pve boxes when you kill klingon ships. Is this intentional or another ”it wasnt thought”.
nova sierra
@nova sierra @languid bison Don't under estimate those credits yet. At a certain higher-level point, you'll need those credit to further promote your Klingon faction crew. To the best of my knowledge, outside of missions (with an obvious detriment to your own faction standing) or buying the recruit packs, you won't find another "own faction"-friendly way to get them.
(The irony is that you've had to kill hundreds upon hundreds of <some faction> to promote that same faction officer. If they could talk, I wonder what they'd say about that.)
languid bison
@nova sierra True enough
languid bison
@nova sierra Big win buddy! Thank you!
nova sierra
@nova sierra Maybe the update will do something, maybe it won’t. Honestly none of what you listed matters. Not a single detail on the broken ass refineries, which need to be fixed as you have already started losing players over refineries and costs. None of the bugs mentioned are some of the game-breaking bugs we have had since launch. People are getting refunded and quitting now because of the glitches and bugs since launch, and you guys are pushing a bunch of “changes” that don’t even matter.
tepid dagger
Agreed rickey. I find the proposed changes underwhelming. I don’t get the share thing at all. Who was calling for that. I don’t think I saw anyone on discord asking for it
nova sierra
@tepid dagger No one. It’s hard to hide bases/hives as it is with one or a few members scouting. Now they can just find it, link it and be done. I would much rather have had the broken system/coordinate just fixed to actually find a system by name, that would be useful but still require effort. If anything this just hinders players.
FYI all, lots are getting refunded through Google and Apple. I highly suggest you do it before they finish the cash grab and shut the game down 😂
warped violet
Refining
We hear your feedback and are continuing to work on the refinery. There are now more points at which your refinery output will increase.
nova sierra
@warped violet Did you not notice the lack of detail on that? They did not say they are improving the output, but making growth more linear, basically. That’s it. And being vague on that one single point was not an accident.
When I have to either wait months and months or buy $400 in packs at level 27 to upgrade one (1) ship weapon, I want info. Not more vague BS. And that info better be that the refinery will now output a guaranteed X amount on each refine at level X, or that packs are going from $100 to $10 ea. Anything less, and I’ll refund like everyone else and find a new game worth shoving money into.
mossy silo
@nova sierra And still no update to the hangar. We need to be able to delete ships so we can buy better ones during the events in the store. My hangar is full, and I cannot build new ships. Nobody needs an Orion Corvette after the first week in the game.
Scopely is losing money. Seems like this upgrade would be a no brainer.
chrome dove
Hey guys , any chance of getting some mining nodes in Romulan space. Especially around the lvl 24 systems, as there are no Gas or crystal, makes it hard if you have aligned yourself with a certain Faction and cannot mine without being attacked by hostile ships. Cheers
nova sierra
@nova sierra you mean the commendation tokens? I believe it will not be an option to have such faction officers in case you have to rely on faction credits you get from killing that specific faction hostiles 🤔 having one commendation like that would anyway need ”tolerated” status, and I dont think that’ll happen if you are minus hundreds of thousands of the specific faction points. @nova sierra any opinion ?
mint sedge
Upgrading game must not reset current status of missions
Please make sure that you found a way NOT to reset the missions status when you upgrade the game servers.
I currently have the mission "Red Jack" for which I can't complete yet objective 6/8. If after today's update I'll have to do this mission from the beginning I'll simply choose to uninstall your game and never look at Scopely products ever again. Fulfilling some of this mission's objectives took me days since I was required to mine huge amounts of resources. If I have to do that again simply because the game update resets the mission status I'll go mad.
So please, don't make any game updates if you're not sure you can retain our missions status.
tough iron
When we go to mine and it shows the little spinning wheel and there is nothing to mine at all , any fix for this ? It’s like the resource nodes are not spawning in. Cleared localization, switched internet , changed devices , and asked allot of other players about it and they all seem to have the same problem. I reported it but Scopely seems to have no knowledge of the situation. Anyone else seem to have the same issue ?
nova sierra
@mint sedge take screen shots for what you have done just in case 😁
mint sedge
@dnd I already did that but this should not be necessary. How hard it is to persist the missions status into a database table or something more Cloud appropriate like Google Cloud Datastore?
nova sierra
Looking at the history of this development, I would say ”hard enough” 🤔
The code is built with gaffa and gum instead of proper structural materials, so every hard coded change will affect something else. Especially the database seems to be a monster.
mint sedge
One more thing you @Scopely should address. You have long downtime periods every time you do a game update. The downtime time should be automatically added to the limited time events duration, so that those events will observe an appropriate increase of their duration.
nova sierra
I like we have those daily tasks to perform in-game, so awesome to get even those small and not so very awesome rewards 😂. But, why on name of god you guys asks those noobs to kill hostiles in factions? Except the fact you can run like an idiot half a hour around the Galaxy to reach an hostile enviorement with an weak as cheese ship, as soon as gets there ... Some angry npc spawns and smash ye brave captain 🤔 . It's total nonsense. Mental.
I know, we have to pull out the wallets & buy those upgrade packs of resources tier up ships ar hundreds of euro, even more :-) but seriously ... Except several peoples on each server ( I suppose there are like 2-3 maniacs in each server who leveled their cards to reach fatser higher tier ships ) ... Who will do those destroy missions on the factions hostiles.
I had this missions since earlier lvl 18 asking to fight with lvl26/27 😂 did any of You think that crap will be done anytime sooner than 2035?
Live long and prosper 🖖
@nova sierra they wont give you refund for this game, atleast that they told me when I asked literally hour later after I bought the jelly and saw whole game it's defective. Been trying since then to refund my packs, even have an open case with google payments since I'm on android.
nova sierra
By some dark magic forces seems I have to mine again weeks of dilithium :-) been at close to finish mining 100k dil took me weeks ... Seems like I have to do it again 😂
Atleast lets see positive part, keeps the ships busy with some tasks
Anyway have no missions to do now, the game feels like I have or I can fight dudes with 2x-5x more power 🤔
nova sierra
Except for mining task in this game nothing you have to do it's " fair ", not even one task! When fighting neutral hostiles consume huge amounts of resources and insane cooldowns for repairs unless you go fighting 10levels lowers hostiles just for fun 😂
Most of the missions you find in game you have to put hundreds € in packs to be able to perform those tasks ... Why on name of all is holly an p2w will ever bother for an awesome 2-4 speeds scrolls of 1h :-)? Or 1000 raw material 😂 ?
Upgrading station and buildings require insane amounts of resources at all levels compared with gains from play ... You are kinda forced to steal other peoples who most probably bought some packs 😂 that's actually in my opinion best sht over I hope really hope those bases I emptied never buy anything ever in game 😂 good job on that btw 👌
Doing research it's Simply mental ... If any monkey who can count to 1 to 100 will see there is no chance in hell those cooldowns for research can be held in balance between level of station development just because the cooldowns are DOUBLE 😂
Ofcourse they costs like a porche ... But that's Something we can afford since we just bought packs with resources 🤑 or we simply steal from those who did such things
Those awesome missions where people have to "pay/donate/give" resources are awesome, really 😂 , even If I keep one ship mining 24/7 will take like 2-3 months of hardwork mining to gather enought resources from game to perform this taks 😂 that's ok, I can do it! And will get 1k points of factions 🤔 awesome rewards thanks god we have them. Ah, I hope in meantime those who keep attacking mining ships wont spank mine too LoL ... Then those 2-3 months will be hell longer since I have to repair, warp again, find another spot free to use ... & So on. Everything for this awesome rewards 😂
100k dil .... try 1 billion par @nova sierra
odd berry
''There is also going to be a client update tomorrow. You will be able to download this update for Star Trek Fleet Command from Google Play or the App Store. This will bring other new features to the game. ''
There is no update in store for me Ipad @nova sierra @potent cipher
livid vapor
Probably won’t be in there for a day or 2 😂 lol
nova sierra
no android update yet either
carmine jay
Lol u guys. These people need sleep too! And its 0142 PST. Give it a few hours.
gloomy oasis
Yea it will prolly be in the evening. ^_^
winged glen
He said at 1:44 eu time tomorrow. Dont know Q2 timezone, but when he is pst...its 16:44 when he posted and 13hours later it should start...so 14:30 eu time for american and eu servers.. but the thing is...asian servers should have started with the updates by now....so in what timezone lived Q2 :D
gloomy oasis
As far as i know.... (from this doscord.
Ph has at least one server down or will have it soon
nova sierra
our server (Asia Pacific Founders Server 1) is down just over 2 hours
how the Irish/EU beta players ended up on an Asia Pacific server is strange 🤔
gloomy oasis
😂😂😂
nova sierra
yup - 50% increase in trit costs -- when you go from 300m to 450m overnight ... thats not fixing an economy thats making a balls of it
decreased the dil costs - which is stupid. fix the damn mining rates
carmine jay
How about the uncommon requirements for upgrades though? @nova sierra @nova sierra
nova sierra
decreased by 10% on rare
bold mirage
any changes on the NS?
carmine jay
Only rare?
sick moon
Screwed again
nova sierra
havent got a baseline on uncommon @carmine jay
nova sierra
That's just for the dodgy kvort weapons at t5, 40mil Tri now needed. 3 ultra packs for a gun that fires a blank every 2nd round FFS
1 upgrade of a rare T8 now costs 15 ultra packs.... to hell with that. Can do a lot more with €1500 than spend it on 1 upgrade -
carmine jay
Honest, as least Tri is minable and raidable... uncommon are not. Only shop or refining unwinable lotto
Bur agree 50% is.... a lot...
nova sierra
@nova sierra @potent cipher what are the people cooking the numbers smoking? tri is the scarcest and most sought after resource when it comes to mining/raiding. we have been complaining about not being able to mine it properly since day 1, first with levels of output on all mines tuned to suit players up to lv18 or so max, officer and then ship and officer mining boosts are still switched off (i'm not saying bugged because lets call a spade a spade here) lets just make it 33% more scarce 🤦
1 billion trit is not realistically mine-able - at least not at current rates
carmine jay
True, unless they plan to release the proverbial mining hounds soon?
nova sierra
it's not raidable any more either, it's all spent or sitting behind perma shield
sick moon
There killing the game
carmine jay
Have you checked ultra packs? Same or more trit? (Or less)
nova sierra
just calculated the mining req on 1bn trit... 3333 days - thats based on what I get today of 300k (taking into account repairs etc)
no change that I can see in packs
Packs still 17mil @34
twilit slate
And envoy mining rates for trit is half of what it was, so it will take even longer to mine it now. From 5100 to 2700 (ish)
cloud torrent
I think they just have a fixed increase, they didn't take in consideration other things, just fixed a % increase in costs each level
rotund bane
That’s great but unobtainable resources still the same 😂😂😂
Sorry less but still unobtainable 😂
pale willow
Like I have said, these bozo developers don’t fix anything unless it helps make the company more $. And then they wonder why in 1 years time no one is playing the app and why they are out on the streets. Mining has been the #1 complaint and they still can’t fix any issue for it. Pretty sad they rather make more money and lose customers vs maybe listen to customers and fix known problems
mint jasper
@pale willow Except they won't be out on the streets, they'll just acquire some other IP and make almost the same game based on it
rotund bane
My biggest problem is a lvl 29 who can attack my lvl 20 station wtf??? That won’t be fixed I’m sure
mint jasper
@rotund bane That's working as intended
rotund bane
Lmao you sound just like them 😂😂😂😂
mint jasper
14: 11 - 17
15: 12 - 19
16: 13 - 21
17: 14 - 23
18: 15 - 25
19: 15 - 27
20: 16 - 29
21: 16 - 31
22: 17 - 33
23: 17 - 35
24: 18 - 37
25: 18 - 39
26: 19 - 41
27: 19 - 43
28: 20 - 45
29: 20 - 47
30: 21 - 49
31: 21 - 51
32: 22 - 53
33: 22 - 55
34: 23 - 57
Level 29 can hit 20-47
It's a cashgrab, bru, gotta buy shit to protect yerself
rotund bane
Oh I’ve seen it doesn’t mean it’s right or fair though
mint jasper
spend your alliance credits on Peace Shields
rotund bane
What gets me is the little p*ssants that hide behind the big guy lol
Lol or just stop playing which is more likely
Maintenance just started anyone know how long???
nova sierra
18:30 UTC
lament sinew
@potent cipher the game has fallen partly from Europe!!!!
dusty violet
5 hours
potent cipher
yep, announced maintenance
meaning on the other side of the tunnel good things await 🖖
inner plaza
🤔
potent cipher
inner plaza
thinking about the "good things" 😁
lament sinew
ahhh, sorry!!!
keen bobcat
@potent cipher hopefully missions won't be reset this time round
potent cipher
no planned mision reset 😃
odd berry
nova sierra
Client update still hasn't dropped, so far we only have the make-people-angry things @potent cipher
potent cipher
client was approved yesterday from our platform friends, and is on route
cloud torrent
Did u see the 142m requirements
Of trit
Does the tweaking on mats include repairs
@potent cipher
nova sierra
Tri cost to upgrade all 6 components on t6 intrepid is now 330mil Tri up from 220mil 😭 😭
cloud torrent
Not specified in patch notes that the mat cost of repairs is included
Also , important warp bug isn't included on fixes, I hope that fix is coming soon
nova sierra
@potent cipher Can the events be paused during the update Please? Otherwise Three is no Way to complete them.
odd nacelle
Anyone know that if bubbled before maintenance started and expected to pop during is base unprotected?
nova sierra
We wait for new bugs to be deployed 🤔
@nova sierra Client includes the Bug fixes, the Ship Yard change, and the Shareable locations.
So lets see if people can't get angry about things there too.
@nova sierra ship yard in brief: do I need to have shipyard 28 or 26 for horizon?
Ships say 28 and research says 26
winged glen
@nova sierra you doing support...you know they will ;)
nova sierra
I honestly don't know. When the client update drops Ill be looking though.
Worried the Kumari is slipping further from my reach. :/
cloud torrent
Do you know what are the freight cargo things we got with the NS
They don't seem to have any use
nova sierra
They were used for tracking event progress.
cloud torrent
We all thought they were meant to increase cargo sometimes but...
Ok
So useless (For us)
LoL
nova sierra
@nova sierra will a shield still be there after update? if it has only 1h left before shut down?
Mine was
willow galleon
As in all games the big get bigger, the small find it tougher and tougher
nova sierra
thx
a good thing would be an active 1h shield for everyone comming out of update
@nova sierra will ye ever reduce the refinery cooldown time? 10 hours is far too long maybe 4 hours would be more reasonable
Or just reduce the demand lol
rotund bane
Active shield after event would be good we already have the same old team lining up waiting for upgrade to finish 😫
stoic sierra
Hoping this maintenance will finally fix my game. It’s been crippled for three and a half weeks. Can’t assign ship to dock c, can’t tier ships, can’t move base, all quests only show retrieving. So frustrating.
pallid peak
Reduce demand/increase output exponentially either way
rotund bane
Let the bulling continue ✊ as I’m sure there will be no change
broken harness
All I want is a "cancel orders" button to stop warps by accident
nova sierra
Or atleast confirmation for warp like one of my alliance folks say " do You wanna warp here or You got fat fingers " 😂
In total I think I have more than a week time warp cooldowns wasted for absolute no reason other than mistake
north arrow
Or even a stop at the next system would be fine too.
nova sierra
Anything will be fine :-) instead waiting 18 minutes like an idiot to have capitain changed to get some mining bonus mostly not working damnit
cloud torrent
I'm amazed they didn't say anything about grade 3 ships warp in patch notes
Grade 3 common ships warp IS TOO LOW
nova sierra
Did you hurry somehwere :-)?
cloud torrent
No, I didn't
nova sierra
Noobs mining ships need to be destroyed faster :-)?
nova sierra
What's logic for someone to drop more than €1k in a game just because other maniac keep spanking hes arse 😂 ?
Anyone know when the server for eu/copenhagen time will be up?
wheat oak
#⭐-official-announcements said 5hrs down time
nova sierra
Yeah, but im not sure from what time i need to calulate from?
wheat oak
14:30 here in France - same time as Denmark I think
wheat oak
lol yup drowsy. 18:30 UK = 19:30 Europe
willow galleon
But we all know how they never keep to it
nova sierra
Thx all:)
@nova sierra Not entirely true. I know of at least 10 people personally that have received refunds from $100 to $3000 directly from Apple or Google. It depends who you reach when you call in. Personally they opened a special case for mine and I had to provide screenshots of my support tickets and of bugs and glitches in game. I know several that got their money on their first call in with no hassle, and I know others that were told no. So cross your fingers and hope you get a good rep on the phone who has common sense lol.
That's first good news about this game since I started it, google pay support answered yesterday and they asked me exactly that. So, there is hope. Thanks Rickey for letting me know
@stoic sierra try clearing cache, or if that doesnt work clear game data then log in and relog into your google play/ios store ac
stoic sierra
I have. Multiple times. Have opened tickets with support only to have them closed with no solution.
grim coral
It looks the uncommon material costs for upgrading ships are being lowered. Is there a refund for the difference in material costs for upgrades bought before the update? If I spent 200 uncommon crystal this morning on upgrades, and the patch lowers the cost to 100 uncommon crystal, did I effectively loose 100 crystal compared to players that upgraded the same things after the patch?
cerulean plover
Hmm refund will be nice.
grim coral
So the patch does a major economy change with less than 24h notice for players? That's not nice.
shell quiver
unreal tinsel
Two things: First, could you review the word filter for Portuguese? There are words widely used in our language and are considered profanity. As for example "um" It means one. "fica" It means stay. "falo" It means talk. So it's hard to communicate with half of your conversation becoming asterisks. Another suggestion that is actually a question: When will the use of armed be released? How's it going to work?
ionic prawn
Didn’t see it in the patch notes. Are the bugged mining nodes being worked on? Last patch they stated they’d fix it but they still persist. Also mining speed bonuses from officers still ain’t working (didn’t see that addressed in these notes either).
bitter wagon
@nova sierra I’m super happy about the change in materials cost, but I’m a little upset seeing as I spent 200$ on upgrading ships three days ago. Had I known then, I would’ve waited until now to upgrade.
nova sierra
And what do You think is changed :-) will require you to drop today 199,5 or 201 " today " :-)
bitter wagon
I love the game and will continue to support it. I’m just a little miffed about this.
nova sierra
Don't you dream like you can do same upgrades today or after today with 9,99 :-)
@bitter wagon Opinions defiantly are mixed on it. The tritanium has certainly increased for me.
@Q2 atleast we can steal tritanium 😂
bitter wagon
I’ve got a good amount of tritanium stored up. I’m more upset over the uncommon ore/crystal/gas I paid money for. Would’ve gone further had I known to wait.
nova sierra
I agree with Cyborg, the same here, "um" is a very common German word, that always get asterisks, while you can type nearly any other sh..
grim coral
I understand that things change, but it would have been nice to communicate this in advance (unless the changes are negligible). That's what proper games do.
nova sierra
Quirles Zombie u r from STAR Right ? 😄
nova sierra
Refresh?
mint jasper
Nope
nova sierra
Hum... will check. Thanks Jornak
mint jasper
It might be that first instance is 24 and the repeats are 22h? I don't know if they reset 24hr box for everyone
inner plaza
@mint jasper did it count for your daily quest? some reported it doesnt count towards the dailies anymore
mint jasper
It did for me, yes
inner plaza
kk
nova sierra
@nova sierra you guys are retarded...honestly!
@nova sierra it's not 18:30 you pieces of s@#t!
But what can be expected from a bunch of greedy incompetent creatures like you?
I announced in General Discussion to all here that we were @nova sierra Sorry you missed it.
Really? So you can spam me with gam3 notfications of pay-events, but to do the same with the game being back online, is outside your thinking capabilities?
@nova sierra and you have the balls to say "sorry you missed it"? Do you actually think people got nothing better to do than stay here to see if, by some miracle, the maintenance finishes earlier than stated? Especially since the other times you were late!
You are despicable in your greed. You can only think on how to scam people out of their money!
sharp bluff
QUOTE:
Coordinate Sharing
- This much requested feature is now here, allowing you to share specific locations in the Galaxy with ease!
- To do this, just tap on the SHARE icon within the object viewer or a point in the system view.
Is it me or is that feature not in game?
mint jasper
Not until client update
nova sierra
@nova sierra please, explain to me why, having the notification possibility, the one that alerts us of being attacked and that an event(that needs money to be won) is on, why no one thought to use the same system?
In order to alert us that the game is back on?
fiery drum
Why did my Kehra just lose 8k power in the update, nothing in patch notes about that
celest loom
there are things in patch notes, they say it balances things, which I feel hard to believe
mint jasper
- The progression curve of the Kehra, Vahklas, and Kumari has been modified.
meager ocean
My full tier six Kehra now is worth much less than my tier IV Kumari, you guys are really trying to screw the game and lose the customers right?
celest loom
agreed @meager ocean
mint jasper
celest loom
this is something different and has nothing to do with their rights or the law or whatsoever @mint jasper but thank you for stating the obvious
mint jasper
they've modified a virtual item
if you spent real money getting it
they've no obligation to you
is what I'm saying
meager ocean
I invested tons of resources to maximixe my interceptors and built faction to get Klingon interceptors... now these fucking retards screwed all
there are people with 8 levels less than me with a Kumari that has gott 500k POWER
meager ocean
T9, and when am I supposed to get that?
mint jasper
Gotta spend that disposable income bru
meager ocean
A warm and felt FUCK YOU SCOPELY from the top player of one of your servers... guess a bye bye is coming soon
mint jasper
Hopefully you're iOS and not Android
meager ocean
Yes
These guys have no idea of game design, customer retentions, community management...
celest loom
@meager ocean calm down man, they will modify stuff in a few months probably. lollolol
main herald
Adm is high on emotions because he saw his ships lost power.
meager ocean
I am on high emotions as see that investments done in months (and money) have been simply deleted by a retarded game designer, unexpected and impossible to see in any modern game. That says all.
celest loom
I agree with @meager ocean .. I don’t see how they tried balancing the game none was complaining about.. nerfing one ship and boosting other to make the gap bigger?
there are already so many things unbalanced
they just added a few more
also the envoys tritanium mining rate is a joke as of now
why not nerf parstwel with it
nova spade
can anyone upload the latest APK of a game ? our store dont have update yet
celest loom
to make it complete
meager ocean
@celest loom Balancing would be possible in lowering the fucking prices of packs and reducing resources demands after level 30, this would have helped a lot of people to enjoy the game. Killing one ship type is simply a no sense as some people have invested hudreds or thousands of $ in upgrading it.
glad hawk
@Q2 Please fix the amount of trit needed to upgrade ships. 460k for one part of a tier 2 kehra is crazy. I have one envoy, one NS and one fortunate and it would take me 91 hours of mining trit for that one part.
You will lose a bunch of players if you don't balance the game more.
PS. The power on my kehra also went from 36k down to 31k effectively adding insult to injury.
hollow vapor
no two ways about it this update screwed the kehra not good enough and far too expensive
main herald
@glad hawk to top it all off my envoy tritanium mining rate decreased by almost half, from 4k to 2.3k. Surely that will help when I need 820,000 tritanium to upgrade one tier 3 component on my kehra...
celest loom
I feel you @meager ocean , that is just one part of the unbalance there is. like @glad hawk just stated another.. even now when envoy mining speeds have decreased
can yoy explain a bit more on the actions @nova sierra
main herald
352 hours of tritanium mining required to upgrade a single tier 3 component on my kehra. that's 15 days of 24/7 mining.
celest loom
some indepts would be great
main herald
Maybe I'll finally max out my kehra in a few years LOL
celest loom
ISH
languid bison
@nova sierra ahh never mind. Bad update. Hostile strength spiked. Ship power went way down and at level 31 I’m still getting little bits of uncommon from the 75k batch. If any uncommon at all. The cash grab continues.
devout dragon
Why increase upgrade costs for Kehra 😫 like I could get enough to upgrade before
mental charm
Anybody help me out..rebooted couple few times now my keyboard split in half any suggestions would be great thanx
celest loom
its ergonomic now
main herald
I've stopped spending money for 2+ months already, besides the occasional $7 shield pack. My expectations of long term involvement in STFC are decreasing.
mental charm
Yea ergonomic and sheek..maybe i could drop $50 and get a patch for it
celest loom
i think new 159,99 packs are on the way with the new client update
nova sierra
@nova sierra i have spent a Lot of Money 💰 in my kehra and now it’s useless!!!
willow galleon
We’ll done scopely you’ve just made everything even harder for us bosses have nearly doubled in size reds that I could kill have jumped so high I have no chance you obviously don’t listen to a word we say and ask for what a bunch of f..king morons you are
stoic sierra
No luck. Deleted and reinstalled. Everything still broken. This is ridiculous.
high quest
Speechless. Truly utterly disgusted.
strong cargo
@mental charm that's nothing to do with the game, it's your keyboard settings
nova sierra
It’s 1000x easier for me now
My ships jumped 100k in power. I can kill 500k ships now with my 270k using the triangle
pale willow
@meager ocean sad but true, it doesn’t take 3 months to fix some of these bugs unless they have hired the most inept programmers in the world, and there so called excuse is that everything is related to other items. Yeah right don’t tell me that you folks cannot fix a music alway on which is easily a 5 min fix to do. And they want more people to spend so they can buy the next SHINY object they develop.
nova sierra
I just killed a 700k with a 270k. I barely survived, but that’s a huge improvement
glad hawk
@nova sierra Just tested my 31k Kehra (was36k b4 update). I could kill 5-6 lvl24 Benzar Smugglers in Kamia b4 update. Now I get destroyed trying to kill even one.
nova sierra
@nova sierra <@&509690795536941056> there are a lot of people, me included, that have been on the game constantly refining to upgrade our kehra so it can take out higher lvl Hostiles. My kehra has dropped 8k whilst I cannot do lvl27 Hostiles anymore. Also my mission bosses are now ridiculously hard. You have basically downgraded me by 2lvls. All people who are currently lvl20-22 this applies to and others above that still use the kehra. You need to be compensating players for this as it’s unacceptable if you have paid real money to update this ship just for you to pocket the money and roll the ship back. It’s the equivalent of theft and not acceptable.
mint jasper
Scopely may manage, regulate, control, modify or eliminate Virtual Items at any time, with or without notice to you. Scopely will have no liability to you or any third party in the event that Scopely exercises any such rights.
@nova sierra @potent cipher this update nerfed the relative power of my uncommon faction ship (bortas) severely. Did you guys take into account players who had already worked on faction?
stable ruin
The packs we bought for upgrading were basically just reverted to nothing, since all the costs have changed after the fact, one pack could have been worth much more now
languid bison
@nova sierra @potent cipher rollback
stable ruin
The value of an upgrade pack today and yesterday is much different yet they havent changed
celest loom
its funny how Q2 can respond to little tiny things and not to these big issues
even a response like, I am gathering intel and discus with the devops, we will bring out info later would be fine for me
nova sierra
@nova sierra @potent cipher <@&509690795536941056> I would advise to take complaints seriously. People can dispute payments with their card companies as you haven’t delivered the service advertised. You can paint this up as balancing a game but you have ripped off a lot of people
languid bison
I can’t even do faction dailies anymore since strength of 32s is now way out of reach at level 31. Haha haha
celest loom
but to ignore is. different level
ashen igloo
maybe u shouldnt put all your eggs in one basket did u guys really think it would stay exakly the same forver and not even be worth upgrading vahklas and kumari ? i am not saying tha nerf to kehra is on point but it was to damn good for that pricepoint
nova sierra
@ashen igloo the point is they have now made it ridiculously hard to advance if you are already at those lvls
mint jasper
even bigger paywall now yeah
languid bison
I’m level 31, this update made it so I can’t even do dailies without spending $2,400 to tier up my ship
nova sierra
Yup @mint jasper the effect, whether intended or not, is to make those players pay to get out of their situation
sweet elm
Let's call it what it is: they've made absolutely, positively sure now that there is no way possible to progress in this game unless you pay to do so.
copper girder
How did the repair cost change? No way to check now
main herald
@nova sierra Fortunately, I'm a patient individual. I don't mind taking my time.
ashen igloo
i am pretty sure they wont leav it like this come one one guy in my alliance got his kumari from 55k to 450k
sweet elm
This is nothing more than a big middle finger to all the players and the other hand sticking out for a payment.
ashen igloo
thats just beyond silly
languid bison
The shit thing here is that I’ve already paid.. they’ve crippled the whales unless they pay more. Holding pst purchases hostage
sweet elm
We've all paid. And now, what we've put in just , magically, isn't enough anymore.
prime ridge
Here is the new T2 Kumari
sweet elm
They can't depend on lvl 5 and 6 casuals to start paying, but they know all of us will, so...find a way to hit our pockets again.
languid bison
There is no QoL in this update. This is purely because payments dropped with exodus of players and they are trying to squeeze more out
nova sierra
I’m pretty sure the notification boards are stacking up for them but surely they must of seen this whilst testing.
celest loom
that tier 2 is insane, compared to a fully tiered kehra lol
sweet elm
I know that they are getting mad 1* reviews right now in the Android store for this update
ashen igloo
@nova sierra this is the test dont u get it 😉
nova sierra
Yup agreed @ashen igloo then they pull it and adapt it again to make it less hard to swallow
Or just do nothing
celest loom
@prime ridge can you post a ss of your kehra?
nova sierra
@prime ridge that’s my t4. How are you getting those numbers?
copper girder
low tier Kumari is a GLITCH
celest loom
hahaha what
copper girder
confirmed
nova sierra
Must be a glitch lol
copper girder
Incorrect calculation of the armor value
prime ridge
Valk went up 35k
copper girder
they said it is a glitch
celest loom
your kumaei shouldn t be that high lol
prime ridge
And the Kumari is broken lol
mental charm
@strong cargo ive checked all my keyboard settings and they are the same as they have alwayz been and my kb ismt split on anything else juss the game
sweet elm
finish some missions before they fix the glitch! lol
obtuse parcel
Have you updated with the new app
celest loom
did you reinstall the game?
copper girder
I dont think its real it is just displaying that power it does not have it
prime ridge
It’s just s visual glitch because it doesn’t preform on base cracking any better
celest loom
screenshot your profile page before you do
prime ridge
But it looks scary AF
nova sierra
is no version of the app yet it’s not showing in my App Store
languid bison
@potent cipher @nova sierra the tier 4 Kumari is stronger than the tier 5 bortas. Seriously?! Upgrade costs for the bortas are insane to get to tier 5 and it’s weaker.
main herald
@nova sierra @potent cipher please reverse this update
languid bison
@potent cipher @nova sierra why would the Kumari be stronger than faction ships at lower tiers? This doesn’t make much sense guys.
nova sierra
@languid bison faction ships are over 300k at tier 1 lol
sweet elm
@viral pier exactly. As long as they are making bills they don't give two dead rat turds about what we have to say. Now, when we all say, enough is enough and refuse to spend another dime until they put this shit back to how it should be, then they'll start listening.
nova sierra
@languid bison Probably assumed no one Had them yet LOL and didn’t adjust them
languid bison
Tier 4 Kumari stronger than tier 5 bortas. Costs for bortas are insanely higher
@nova sierra yes I would agree with you there
nova sierra
Wow, just wow
inland pelican
Ahh I read is “ wahhh wahhh wahhh.” 👶🏼
celest loom
I still think it is wrong to answer to such unimportant questions @nova sierra @potent cipher and to completely ignore the rest of us with the bigger guns out
languid bison
@inland pelican learn to read then?
celest loom
try to learn something on your next course of community management
stable ruin
really, all these things being mentioned and they respond to the comment of AR on IOS
amazing
celest loom
as Gordon Ramsey would say: “you guys are a fucking joke”
edgy hearth
Dial back the power increase of hostiles. It's way too much.
sweet elm
Your update is terrible! Do it again!
nova sierra
@nova sierra any word on the client update? Cause it says that it's separate from the maitenance one. Or maybe i missunderstood.
timid briar
@nova sierra, looks as though you are left out of the loop just like the rest of us, sorry dude.
Either that or Scopely is full of a bunch of incompetent coders who don't know how to release an app store patch...
...Buuuut it's probably a little of both.
celest loom
it is just not out yet
but they are too busy answering people about the completely rubbish AR functions
so dont expect anything
oh wait, lets promote it then
only use the AR function everyone, because everything fucking else is BROKEN!
celest loom
but still @prime ridge don’t forget we have the AR function working
sweet elm
They'll probably have an upcoming sale: "Put the game back like it was! $150.00!
nova sierra
With discount code of $9,99😂
celest loom
thats the joke, but sorry for android users though, its only working function is only available for iOS
regal loom
Gotta wonder how much time was spent on that novelty AR function while QA was shitting the bed
nova sierra
I'm praying day and night to have some better luck with google pay support so my case for refunds gets thru 😂
carmine jay
@nova sierra @potent cipher @nova sierra i dont see any increase in the amount of 3* rare / uncommon as described in your patch notes. Can you confirm if it was amount or chance that was updated?
nova sierra
Does matter? Anyway You have zip chances to get the materials needed for higer tier upgrades ... Not until 2045
Those stuffs are made like this for peoples to spend cash not to play the game.
sweet elm
Uncommons happen in this format: Don't give any. Did he pay? Don't give any. Did he pay? Give him 2. Did he pay? Repeat
distant ivy
Hey let’s make hostile stronger so weaker players can’t finish their dailies!
Dailies were easy till this change
My lovely kehra got weaker by a lot
crystal moth
Same...my Kehra lost about 4k power, but even worse, he takes a lot more damage hitting battleships (which is in his favor via power triangle) than just yesterday.
celest garden
At least it seemed possible to progress before without constantly purchasing packs. Now not so much. Don’t want to keep playing really.
distant ivy
Yah the game is now only for players with tons of money
celest garden
It’s going to suck for all of those players when everyone else quits though.
distant ivy
Yep
waxen vapor
Lost alot of power on many ships, while the hostiles and missions bosses are stronger. Mthe rafinery still take alot of time and give next to nothing on raries. I’m not to happy with the update.
distant ivy
Yah the update sounded good but isn’t
Maybe if they would put $20 packs back in but they won’t their packs are horrible setup
stable ruin
We’ve tested the new Kehra, Vahlkas, and Kumari against these new Hostiles to ensure that - even without calculating Officer abilities - you will be able to hit hostiles levels above your range if you are using the combat triangle.
hahaha tested with their eyes closed
on accounts with infinite resources
worn turtle
My Kehra lost 11k power
nova sierra
lol my envoy is actually higher in power
ashen magnet
@nova sierra congratulations on another update which proves developers have no idea what they are doing. The changes to ships' stats (Kehra, Vaklas, Kumari) shows you can change anything after release, and are totally unreliable. I am done wasting money on your fraudulent game. This game is a scam.
distant ivy
Yep not worth a dime when they can make a update that takes away all the work you put into the game
stable ruin
all those weeks spent refining for uncommon ore to upgrade kehra, gone to waste
all those hours spent mining the grade 3 materials
wasted
errant tartan
This is the worst “upgrade” I’ve ever experienced in any app, software, or game. The rich got richer and poor got poorer.
stable ruin
everyone who spent money got poorer
errant tartan
Y’all are money grubbing bastids
stable ruin
because what you bought is worthless now
nova sierra
Scopely listened to feedback my arse...if you're gonna make upgrades more expensive fix the damn mining rates, fix the damn the mining buffs (or just turn the bloody things on on because they worked before Scopely took over)
kindred cloak
ashen magnet
yes we all need to go for level 26 immediately
reef flame
Lost 10k in strength for kehra
No way im i spending more money for them to take away stuff that i already had
sleek venture
This game is total horse shit now, devs don't give a flying fck about anyone, just how much money they can grab, tossers, not paying another penny on this shite
distant ivy
Yah if someone spends money now watch in a month a update will be released and make it worse and money wasted
valid bronze
They have royaly screwed a whole bunch of stuff with this update. You cant change hostiles and G3 ships when your changes affect balancing of the G2 ships top end too
distant ivy
Yep
tough beacon
Soo log in and my Valk went up by 45K.... made me happy. Then I look at the Hostiles and the ones that am hunting... 29,30, and 31s went up by 25%-30%. So I actually can kill less npc then before......
kindred cloak
@tough beacon NPC up power + 50%
edgy hearth
It's a shit show. Absolutely no way to do the dailies because everyone just one shots you.
tough beacon
Semantics... net gain ... we get screwed
subtle briar
I would just like to thank Scopley for kicking my legs out from under me just as I was feeling semi competitive. I also like to thank them for jacking the tri costs of my ships because I often wonder who killed Santa and know I can rest easy at night knowing the answer.
nova sierra
@nova sierra @potent cipher could you, pretty please, ask if the updates in the future would be more frequent and only a few things at a time... your dev teams score of success in the game updates is so low, there’s no NPS score tier for it, and the list of words doesnt have such a negative adjective to it.
Just a thought...
distant ivy
Hey now when you spend money you get to upgrade less isn’t that awesome lol
teal frigate
@Q2 Thank you for this update. It has helped me a lot with a question im having should i or should i not buy a pack. Very easy choice now
nova sierra
@nova sierra best thing you could advise them to do now is to put a huge pack in offer for all grades, 5, 10, 20, 50 and 100€. Meaning huge player-wise, not scopely scale huge. Would calm p2progress and p2w players.
distant ivy
They won’t do that whenever I put in ticket about how all my $20 packs are gone they say that is intended. They don’t want players who can only afford smaller packs. They only want whales in this game
zinc osprey
I just joined this discord and here is my general feedback: FUCK YOU SCOPELY
nova sierra
I dont have anything to complain about the update, I only gained and everything I need works. But I havent seen such frustration all over, ever in any game, like this caused
Depends what you mean
I havent invested in any ships as I do t think the low level ships are worth to invest
I have 200k Kumari, 170k Vahklas and 140k or something Kehra
All you should invest before level 28 is research and buildings
But most of you dont understand that
Your ships are as good as your research
zinc osprey
The only way to win is not to play
distant ivy
I foresee server mergers in future as 2/3rd servers go dead
nova sierra
That will happen anyway no matter what
@potent cipher @nova sierra <@&509690795536941056> Guys, when you say that you have “heard” from the community, what exactly did you hear?? Did you hear that ppl wanted to be rolled back? Did you hear that ppl wanted to have the mission bosses and Hostiles nerfed? Did you hear that ppl wanted their ships to lose power when compared to Hostiles and their own ship strength? Did you hear that they still can’t get the required uncommon and rare rss? Did you hear that the miner officer stats still don’t work? Doesn’t look like it. You have really hurt the game and the community and no free chest drop will solve it. Why don’t you actually listen to the guys who are playing the game and implement the “features” that don’t work instead of mucking with peoples already disappointing game experience. Less AR and more fixing the game.
I think they balanced it right for many things. Just the side effects were a bit harsh and probably unintended.
@nova sierra well said mate, I'm seriously thinking of walking away, spent thousands but there are better games to spend my money on
I would heavily suggest to give them a day or two to respond to this until u walk away.
sweet elm
I just wanted you to fix the fucking mining nodes!
willow galleon
You don’t honestly think that they are going to do anything we ask do you
nova sierra
Now they have to. The side effects are concerning too many p2w and p2progress players
I believe itunes and google play have received thousands of refund requests within the last hour
willow galleon
So if they are listening why have they not said anything on here
sweet elm
They've received them from me, that's for sure. Every upgrade pack I bought is now useless. You can't put your merchandise on a string and jerk it out from my pocket whenever you want more money lol. That's not how this works, Scopely.
nova sierra
I believe we are talking about 7-figure amount in next 48 hours
Yeah if all us who spend big walk away they can consider the game dead
willow galleon
They should make unrefined ore/gas/crystal mines
Always the same big guns get better small guys are left behind
nova sierra
Drowsy, u think doing a 900€ tier upgrade for a ship sounds getting better?
I have just requested a refund for 2 packs...
Under the uk consumer act, mis sale of goods
Hope u get it...
It’s inside the 14 day deadline that apple specify. They can’t deny it.
If enough folk do it they are in a world of shit
reef flame
I just requested a refund as well, just for the last 2 packs that i purchased since the update pretty much nulled them
nova sierra
I would advocate anyone who has purchased (especially in last 14 days) to request a refund
Yup @reef flame same position for me
Not buying a pair of shoes for the store to then come and take them away 2 weeks later
It’s called theft, not nerfing, not rebalancing or any other techno jargon, T.H.E.F.T
The 14 day consumer refund doesnt apply to digital content by EU law
stable ruin
eerily quiet
thorny ridge
In Australia’s 14 day rule does not apply you can request all@the way back from day one u spent on the game wether that’s 14 days or 14 months
nova sierra
Anyone know how too do it through Google I spent 600 in the last week
dry summit
@nova sierra I would be able to refund it through the court if I can provide evidence that the object which I paid for has been changed significantly
nova sierra
Yes
But not the 14 day refund
Defect product is different and applies in every region
Except china 😎
reef flame
Cant ask Google for refund, to much time has passed, has to be from scopy
nova sierra
Yup, go through credit card company, provide evidence and away you go
Credit card company wont help unless u run with black amex
reef flame
Google usually doesnt grant refunds and even worse past 48 hours
eager cedar
SCANDAL !!!
thorny ridge
Wouldn’t be hard
nova sierra
We should all join in a class action, that would scare the shit out of them
Lucky I have black Amex then
Then u are good, just call concierge and tell them to fix it
Call concierge and away you go
Yup as above
Thats what you pay them for
Ask them to send candy box to scopely with the refunds
😉
crude holly
Oh yey! I needed 2 explorer parts for jelly shields upgrade, now I need 50 more! Joy!!! Hopefully I can gather that before the next upgrade requires 300 more
nova sierra
i bet Donald has a black amex. Can he pay for the wall with it to a Mexican company + then request a refund?
Here you go folks, get your refunds in
That took all of 20mins
weary linden
@reef flame call Google. I've gotten refunds in the past after the 48 hours by calling the play store support line
inner plaza
@nova sierra that is called fraud tho cuz u told them your purchases were made unauthorized
nova sierra
Nope I didn’t I raised it under “I’d like to request a refund”
ripe stirrup
There is also going to be a client update tomorrow. You will be able to download this update for Star Trek Fleet Command from Google Play or the App Store. This will bring other new features to the game. is there an approx time for this @potent cipher ?
nova sierra
They came back with that. I would never claim it to be something it wasn’t full text of what I wrote is in the ss
inner plaza
ah k
nova sierra
It’s up to apple how they wish to play it with them. I merely stated the facts
Any other uk consumers, use the same format and away you go
I tried doing this via the Report a Problem request a refund option but it denied it straight away - did you email Apple?
nocturne silo
What is nullified then?
rain hawk
worn pebble
Wtf!!!! This patch
Ok scopely have nerf the khera around 10-15k and up the enemies vessel around 20% now it's just impossible to do the daily
long sun
Bought a ship pack yesterday to upgrade Kehra and today it is weaker than when I started. Contacted apple about this fraud and they refunded. Reach out and try.
If you charge people to upgrade, you can't just weaken them for the hell of it.
worn pebble
Seriously what they are thinking???
long sun
Honestly, the weak got weaker and with the upgrade to the later ships, the strong got stronger. That's what this game needed, right?
worn pebble
Don't know but I see lot of people stop playing
Instead of spending money on fake video game they should focus on existing bug and stop messing with the current players
nova sierra
@nova sierra I dunno for others, that’s what I did and got refunded straight away
Thanks - it’s not working for me but have emailed their Apple support directly
Oh and emailed Mr Driver too - Founder and CEO of Scopey
Thanks for your advice @nova sierra
worn pebble
I have 39 quest already impossible to achieve because warp nerf or killing ship with 500k+ but with the nerf it's worth
Where is your smooth progress???
ionic void
@nova sierra I agree what said here above. Nerfing the Kehra and upping hostiles made it pretty much impossible for me to do the daily. Especially since the repair time and cost is still the same (for a weaker vessel). Ofcourse I can upgrade it, but owh wait, the costs of making it stronger have become ridiculousy more expensive. Mine is tier 2 and it requires a whopping 1.5 million tritanium to get to tier 3, up from about 750k. Thats a pretty outlandish amount to come by for someone at my level (22). Not in a small part because the mining rates still havent been fixed. The warp nerf also doesnt help
worn pebble
Maybe you mean smooth wallet expanse???
ornate shoal
They're making the game pay to play and it's killing the game. Our server almost died after the shambles of the pvp event, now this. We are already down to only a few active alliances with barely any new players coming through
worn pebble
@nova sierra I have be refund by Apple complety and they are aware about the number of refund so they know there are an issue with this game
glass venture
Anyone got the client update?
nova sierra
Thanks @worn pebble I’ve logged an email as couldn’t accept the refund through the purchase link
empty shell
Something is seriously wrong with Khera balancing ... Tier 4 Vahklas has 20 k more power than tier 6 Khera @nova sierra @potent cipher ... may I remind you we invested money to get there . Before update I could almost kill lvl 29 Combat mission veteran .. I had tier 5 Khera and I just needed 1 upgrade to kill it . Now with tier 6 Khera I can't scratch its shields. What have you done ?
long kayak
@nova sierra u should post Mr drivers email so everyone can have a chance to email him as well.
worn pebble
radiant fox
Hey. I get from google back 90% of paiments. No problem with 48 hrs limit. Just thru google play on pc and click on it!
worn pebble
@empty shell they stole your money and time
empty shell
I am still in state of shock .. Had alot to do today and just got online ... I need to take some time to soak all stuff... wtf?!?!?
nova sierra
@long kayak I found him on linked in. Rest assured if I don’t get a response I’ll get and post his email.
dry summit
Wtf I had started, lmao, gj with refunding guys!
long kayak
Hey all so here is where u go on google
It will bring up your account info if it's less then 48 hours u can do it auto.
Or you'll have to call if longer then 48 hours.
Someone should post for ios
empty shell
I will call google for sure. This is unbelieveable .. Haha .. still in shock
radiant fox
15 min and google send money back. Incl december and january. Only based on online request
long kayak
All the update did was make the strong stronger and the weak weaker.
To keep the revenge purchases going. But the gap is just way to big now.
There is no game balance.
Get your refunds.
brave quail
I dint get refaund
quaint trench
This happened to me I’m on the live chat to them now,, I will let you know
nova sierra
I’m on email chat
brave quail
Wer do you do you do the live chat?
quaint trench
Vikram is a slow typer 😂
nova sierra
long kayak
Best way to get a live agent at Google choose the option your trying to redeem a gplay card
They answer pretty fast to get your money
brave quail
Im goin to give call them tomorow morning is deferent en denmark
worn pebble
Give them my case number I have make a full description of the issues
quaint trench
Can’t read that but I see the 30 bit
I’m assuming u get it sighing 30 days, that’s what mine says
worn pebble
Not they say I will receive my money in 30 days maximum
quaint trench
Yeah