#💬-general-feedback | Star Trek Fleet Command | Page 146

light orchid Jan 21, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Telling us where to pick up the previous mission would be Brilliant!

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livid merlin Jan 21, 2019, 7:50 PM

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I would like a way to target particular crew tokens outside of events as even in the events it doesnt drop that frequently. I would also like to crew the station without having to leave a ship in dock with base only crew.

nova sierra Jan 21, 2019, 8:21 PM

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15k rep for 1.5b para surely this is wrong
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13k rep for 1b is just laughable
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prisma condor Jan 21, 2019, 8:22 PM

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how can they demand so much

nova sierra Jan 21, 2019, 8:23 PM

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can get more rep doing daily's and keep 2.5b

prisma condor Jan 21, 2019, 8:24 PM

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for real, they really need to revise what they demand for anything, ships require too much as do missions in some cases, whether the ship is too powerful or if they people need a stupidly large donation or amount to mine

rare roost Jan 21, 2019, 9:06 PM

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@prisma condor there is no more content past lvl 30, they will more then likely drop those requirments or enable players to farm that much when they add more content past lvl 30

prisma condor Jan 21, 2019, 9:09 PM

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ah right okay, thanks for that

nova sierra Jan 21, 2019, 9:09 PM

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ops 38 unlocks the dark space mission

pallid hatch Jan 21, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Attack Range
Level 14: can hit 11-17
15: 12-19
16: 13-21
17: 14-23
18: 15-25
19: 15-27
20: 16-29
21: 16-31
22: 17-33
23: 17-35
24: 18-37
25: 18-39
26: 19-41
27: 19-43
28: 20-45
29: 20-47
30: 21-49
31: 21-51
Level 32: can hit 22-53

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This really needs to be revised.. No way a level 32 being able to hit a level 22 is in any way fair. This game will not stay in business like this

nova sierra Jan 21, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Or survive an attack from level 53. I have to agree this needs better balance.

rare roost Jan 21, 2019, 9:36 PM

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dude, its not designed for balance.

Noone who does games development would describe this as a balance mechanic

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It just flat out does't pit players of even power/skill/ability against each other.

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This is for creating a pyramid shaped resource stealing system with the few at the top leeching off the many at the bottom.

A way of rewarding players for spending money, nothing more

nova sierra Jan 21, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Designed? Are you saying there is something designed in this game? All I see is bugs.

rare roost Jan 21, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Design is seperate from implementation

nova sierra Jan 21, 2019, 9:44 PM

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There is a huge difference between design and scam.

rare roost Jan 21, 2019, 9:47 PM

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emm, yes

tranquil torrent Jan 21, 2019, 11:26 PM

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The whales won't pay to play if there's no sheep to kill.

The trouble is that the free playing sheep will go elsewhere leaving the paying whales to circlejerk and that won't last long for the game

rare roost Jan 22, 2019, 12:10 AM

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It's far worse then that @tranquil torrent

Currently allmost all base raiding is dependent on paying players as free players can't generate enough RSS from their own bases or mining to have a stockpile worth stealing by high lvl whales.

In other words as players leave or decide to stop spending because of the increasing costs of the store packs, the whales have less and less targets to raid. The games dependent on spending in more ways then one.

The economy actually crashes from lack of resource input if enough people stop spending.

quiet crater Jan 22, 2019, 12:39 AM

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@rare roost you’re exactly right. After having all of my paid-for rss raided, I’ve decided not to pay anymore. No point in handing my cash to another player.

heavy lynx Jan 22, 2019, 2:36 AM

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If your lvl 18 you can buy it.. if your below lvl 18 there an event to get it... the event not avail to 18 n above

nova sierra Jan 22, 2019, 3:01 AM

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Is anyone here lvl 17 or below

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because the solo dominion event live now is that offering jellyfish rewards

gaunt osprey Jan 22, 2019, 4:09 AM

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I played Mafia city for a while, overall pretty poor game with terrible engrish writing and endless buildup grind, but it handled micro transactions and purchased rss much more nicely. All purchased or rewarded rss are protected, whereas generated or stolen is not.

keen bobcat Jan 22, 2019, 7:13 AM

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This needs to be looked at. I get there are less people once you get higher in the game but to be able to be hit by 9 levels higher then you when you just turn level 20 isn't fair at all

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ebon thistle Jan 22, 2019, 7:22 AM

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100% agree a level 19 has no chance against a 23 let alone a 27 its garbage and more than enough reason to stop spending money and just play F2P if they wanted fair which they dont it would be 2 levels up 2 levels down , but all they want is for you to get crushed enough to spend money ....but sadly this is having the oppisite effect and a lot of us just arent going to spend its already bad enough that leveling is at a crawl with uncommons being damn near impossible i opened 2 50k packs today and got 10 uncommons out of rthe 300 i need .............bunch of crap rigged to make you spend money seriously cbs or paramount need to revoke the licenses agreement

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@rare roost currently majority of our base raiding are raiding all the whales that quit playing already, finding the players with millions of RSS that shields have dropped and havent been active in days or weeks , people are leaving and already fed up with the craptastic game , a lot of us that were spending oney have given up and went F2P and just hanging out to see how long it lasts. pricing is too high, leveling is to slow , refining is garbage , the PVP level ranges are unfair and garbage . spending money and having all the bought RSS stolen because your shield drops when you still had 1 day left on it ect ect there are alot of easy things they could fix to make the game fun but you know they wont they have the license to Star trek and they will milk it for money until the servers are dead , then they will start merging servers to try and milk more money until they arent making anymore and the population is so low they just turn off the servers. easy fixes increase uncommons across the board make it easier to get , its not epic after all, change the PVP ranges to make it fair it shouldnt be no higher the 2 up , 2 down. add content to the 30+ range so that they can speed up leveling instead of having this artificial snail pace locked behind uncommon refine rates, make bought RSS protected and unable to be raided. ust a couple things mostly easy to change there is a bunch of other stuff they could do but again they wont cause you know money.

serene ridge Jan 22, 2019, 8:54 AM

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@nova sierra , hi there , can you answer what has happened to refining? After being told to upgrade to receive rare rss, i did and the rare rss started to come in. Very small amounts, but it came......then we have taken away the 3rd refining option and the rare rss stopped coming in....what is with that ?
I feel I have been lied to, robbed and had my growth stunned.

nova sierra Jan 22, 2019, 11:41 AM

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they need to change refining from chance based for uncommon / rare to guarenteed fixed ammount then at least you know you will make progress

river sluice Jan 22, 2019, 3:09 PM

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This game was incredibly entertaining from level 1-16. I was always building and researching, I could tier up a ship in three to five days, and could buy packs that were tied to events which gave even more resources to complete, but I didn't have to buy packs simply to keep playing. My progress was consistent.

Even with adjusted refining rates, I can't finish tier 2 ships without spending. The players above me have already told me what to expect with regard to 3 star uncommon resources, so I know that's only going to get worse.

Unless I buy a pack every two days or so, I can't mine or raid enough dilithium to simultaneously raid for resources and continue research, so I either won't have the resources I need to refine or I won't continue to grow.

And none of that matters anyway, because every time I open a chat window, there's a 20% chance the game is going to crash. Multiple people have reported peace shields have been dropping early with no user input, which puts their purchased resources at risk. And since the attack scales are built to keep whales playing by ensuring they still have targets at level 25-30, the only thing I could do to protect the resources I purchase is purchase more shields.

The mission reward tree had to have been designed by throwing darts at numbers on the wall, and the dilithium burn rate seems to be 3 three times the input rate. Bugs go unresolved without even a message that your ticket has been seen, and, last but not least, major updates roll out at a rate of 1 per 3 months, and they roll out late, in the middle of the day, and don't actually do everything written in the patch notes.

The issues with last week's update was the writing on the wall.

But it's the way resources are generated and used that convinced me it was time to move on.

Good luck players. Good luck @potent cipher

Time to take my wallet elsewhere.

pure walrus Jan 22, 2019, 3:56 PM

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@naive yoke Do you wish Fed to interact? Like although they're in friendly terms with the attacker and the defender, to chose sides and defend? That would somehow destroy the game's PvP element, since this would not be an issue either in klingon nor romulan space.

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Noone willing to PvP would choose Fed and those who do would have an advantage, namely being alowed to so as they wish.

pure walrus Jan 22, 2019, 4:13 PM

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@naive yoke You got me wrong. I can't imagine your situation since I'm Not nearly close to you in terms of progress. What I meant was, a Fed player living in Fed is attacked by someone else. After the first attack all other ships of the "invader" will be attacked or stalled by Fed patrols. That would be Fed and furthermore the attack must lead to a decrease in Fed rep, since it's Not their way. In the other hand romulans as well as klingons would state that the first guy being attacked, is Just too weak.

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So, PvP must be the same for everyone, ignoring what factions would do normally.

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@naive yoke it's not mine either. Where you're from?

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Yeah I can see your Point. But although I would find it cool to have factions act accordingly, I don't see how to implement it.

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I am with you though.

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Even the avg player will not understand since it'll be a major change in game mechanics. Just look at the suggestions. Quite a bunch of players is asking for global/server Events. And everyone is asking for the Borg. Yet Borg in TOS? Even Kelvin? How bout the doomsday machine...

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Well I don't like Discovery at all. Heard quite often that it's in line with Roddenberry, but I don't get the star Trek feeling.

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Imho Orwell gave more of a ST feeling than Discovery. Yet i felt archer's Star Trek to Not fit as well.

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If I'm to decide, Fed would punish PvP heavily, klingon would encourage people to and the Roms were somewhere in between.

pure walrus Jan 22, 2019, 5:26 PM

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You're kind of (i am missing the proper Word) naive thinking anyone would fix anything. The devs responsible moved on to other projects. Yet I completly agree with you mostly. Regarding the Destiny series, I'm Off. Although Roddenberry's idea has been mostly bout including, He Set Up a universe. And than there discovery offering a bacteria based propulsion system offering more speed than even voyager or the Borg could do...

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I'm off, bringing my 18 month daughter to bed. See you.

mellow meteor Jan 22, 2019, 7:39 PM

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On a beta server that started November

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This is what happens when a player can attack 12 levels down and somehow is incredibly lucky finding players that have just purchased ultra packs and let their shields come down. Combined with whatever is going on with the station defenses, or lack of, as none of the research bonus seem to be applied. Managed to do this in a couple of weeks just attacking with Antares. 1.3 mil rss at a time.

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keen meadow Jan 22, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Lol

mellow meteor Jan 22, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Hard to believe the guy I showed did that in a couple weeks. And not noticed raiding. I don’t know how power destroyed is calculated but his is low. Unbelievably low considering the amount of attacking it would take to do that. Not even in top 100.

mellow meteor Jan 22, 2019, 10:39 PM

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@naive yoke on our server the average high level is 26. I’m 25. Killswitch is 33. Everything is weaker. My station said 375k power w/o ships when he hit it with his Antares. Battle log reports only 125k power. He squashed it and took 1.3 mil rss in one hit. I was 6 lvl lower then him at the time. There’s nothing right about any of that.

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I have a bit of Klingon in me too. Found his horizon last night. Took two ships to kill it with current crew abilities issue. No crew abilities

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This game is a hot mess. Not going to be around much longer if things continue to deteriorate with every update.

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Another fine game ruined by incompetence and greed. Just once like to see one that cares about the gaming experience. I don’t mind them making money. That’s only fair. Advancement should be dependent on how deep your pockets are.

ornate hedge Jan 23, 2019, 12:16 AM

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@mellow meteor this is called a base shield. If you don't want to be attacked. Use one! If someone was stupid enough to buy a pack and not shield. They got exactly what they deserved! See you in the game. We are Borg!

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nova sierra Jan 23, 2019, 12:17 AM

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But it says x0 on your pic. Aka, you don't have any. 😋

ornate hedge Jan 23, 2019, 12:18 AM

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How many shields I have is nobody's business. Thus why the two hour one was specifically picked. 😁

ripe oak Jan 23, 2019, 12:52 AM

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😂😂😂

mellow meteor Jan 23, 2019, 1:20 AM

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How do you shield when your attacking? You must have some secret attack warning system that automatically stops you in mid attack and pops a shield. Unfortunately I’m not blessed with such a marvel nor do I suspect are most others

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Non of that changes the fact that the spread for attacks is outrageous and non of the crew abilities seem to be working.

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Some people’s children

ornate hedge Jan 23, 2019, 1:44 AM

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I think you should go and learn how to play the game. It will do you some good and improve your gaming experience a lot more if you understood how the game actually works. Particularly the topics of attacking and ship/base power. There is a reason why the player level spread is what it is. Maybe you should focus on that for a bit. I am not saying that your frustration is not valid. But frustration and venting and bashing a player that destroyed your base, on the sole grounds that you don't actually know how the game works, makes you look foolish. I'll give you some starting points. Ship cargo capacity and max base powers at each level are starting points for you to look into. Good luck in your research, I am sure you will figure it out. Remember, put up a shield or I am sure we will be knocking again at your front door! We are Borg! P. S. kill sends his regards. He says you are more than welcome to take out his other horizon, the one that is actually higher than lvl 5. 😇

mellow meteor Jan 23, 2019, 2:22 AM

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😝

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I’m not venting or bashing. Info is what I’m seeking. I’ve also played a number of similar type games. Never have I played one with so many technical issue. I’m also not the only experienced gamer that feels the spread in levels is excessive. You can tell kill I’m still working on that promise. Patience

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It’s also pretty easy to preach when you’ve coerced that majority of top players to join in one. Then run around making threats and issuing demands.

dawn kindle Jan 23, 2019, 2:39 AM

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Your use of the word "sale" is a bit intriguing. Sale refers to a reduced price, but you're just marketing a different package at the same price as the others. Will there be any "sales" say...less than $50?

terse crag Jan 23, 2019, 8:22 AM

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This is why you need a shield

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Why would you not shield when you sleep and have 80 mil rss

wary nacelle Jan 23, 2019, 9:29 AM

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@terse crag how much money have you spent on the game?

nova sierra Jan 23, 2019, 9:40 AM

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Short answer shall be way too much :-)

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Awesome loot :-)

nova sierra Jan 23, 2019, 10:11 AM

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Any chance you could trouble yourselves to fix the increasing number of broken mining nodes?

ruby mesa Jan 23, 2019, 1:38 PM

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@potent cipher so I have 74/75 jelly fish blueprints and I have been everywhere in neutral space completing all the missions to try and find the last one am I missing something cause I would like this jellyfish

lament trout Jan 23, 2019, 1:48 PM

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When are we going to be able to recycle obsolete ships

lavish sedge Jan 23, 2019, 1:50 PM

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Refining does not appear to be fixed as yet. Still getting nada uncommon crystal. Guess my gaming budget for this month is going elsewhere.

mellow dragon Jan 23, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Is there any sign of changes to refining? It can’t stay the way it is surely?

gloomy current Jan 23, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Once I set the music to off. It should stay off the next time I reboot.

rare roost Jan 23, 2019, 5:27 PM

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@potent cipher @ruby mesa I would also like a definitive answer to this question, the game seems to just cut you off from farming jelly parts after a point and noone can get any more after that lvl/progression point.

ruby mesa Jan 23, 2019, 5:28 PM

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I went as far as to buy the partial pack cause I was sitting at 49/75 but nothing I can do to find the last part I need

rare roost Jan 23, 2019, 5:37 PM

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I was in the exact same position and didn't buy the pack at the time, i was going to wait for the next event, then they cut me off from that event because I was over lvl 18.

noble ridge Jan 23, 2019, 8:11 PM

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When can we finally buy 2* and 3* uncommon mats with latinum? I'm sick of not being able to progress. Edit: UNCOMMON mats

rare roost Jan 23, 2019, 8:13 PM

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@noble ridge when players start leaving in droves and the publisher panics, then they'll easy up on the pay to win design.

noble ridge Jan 23, 2019, 8:14 PM

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When did this game officially release? I only saw the commercial for it a couple-few weeks ago and I heard somewhere it was the #9 dollar earning game on google

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Reason I ask is if that many new people are spending that much just because and that's why it's seemingly so popular/high ranked

rare roost Jan 23, 2019, 8:16 PM

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game released around last nov.

Before that it had a year of alpha and beta testing,
It has the same mechanics and progression as kings of the realm, digits earlier game.

The devs have learned nothing about fixing the design of the game, they think it works.....

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IMO the game is fundamentally flawed, this lead to its predecessor putting the devs into 1.5 mil in debt.

Scopelys the publisher for this one and they've done an amazing job making fast money off its competitive pay to win monetization system.

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We'll see how long that lasts

noble ridge Jan 23, 2019, 8:42 PM

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I agree with that. There's other games out there like Tiberium Alliances that does a pretty good job from what an alliance can do, etc... Though the fundamentals are a little different there.

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Just the whole notion of being able to identify/color code what alliances you have a "NAP" with, or consider allies or consider enemies.... that would go super far - especially with casual players

rare roost Jan 23, 2019, 8:50 PM

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NAP's arnt a part of the games design. Thats a purely player driven/created mechanic.

dusty violet Jan 23, 2019, 10:56 PM

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Even better: Remove the ability to see the names of players outside your alliance. Just give me levels, power, and ship types. Now we can't NAP, because we have no idea who that is. PvP at it's purest, no alliances to navigate.

remote rapids Jan 23, 2019, 11:11 PM

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Please please please please.... Ect. Start rotating the daily mining missions for the factions from just 1 type. I have a ton if g3 gas right now and barely any other g3 materials due to the extensive time it takes to mine the gas alone. The tooltip(frames) for the buildings should show amounts with research increases already factored like the warehouse storage limits and the vault limits. Its very hard to determine how much is actually safe in the base. Since you also need all 3 g3 mats to upgrade a base it might be a good idea to put some in reach of thr beginning faction zones because mining it in other factions you risk revenge by those factions.

rare storm Jan 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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@hexed charms please fix your shit. I’m fucking tired of my ship showing up as destroyed after warping home. No battle, no nothing, it gets to station and shows as dead

naive garden Jan 24, 2019, 1:26 AM

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signs are complicated yo

frail saddle Jan 24, 2019, 3:48 AM

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@Stoneoak79 This incompetent company couldn't fix a sign to a sign post with Ikea directions and a hired hand to help them. FTFY

hexed charm Jan 24, 2019, 4:02 AM

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@rare storm You tagged me instead of the actual devs lmfao

nova sierra Jan 24, 2019, 6:22 AM

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This game is by design made for each click forward to bring You more frustation & more troubles :-) they did it like this to drive peoples nuts to buy so called " offers/pack/pixels " ...

winter fox Jan 24, 2019, 6:43 AM

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Why do not notifications come? they are not even in the settings

nova sierra Jan 24, 2019, 8:43 AM

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So...Romulan trader lvl 26...ones are 62k power...others are 87k power...same system...But i bet it's WAI, right @nova sierra ?

nova sierra Jan 24, 2019, 9:07 AM

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Why tf is the uncommon yield so trash

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At this rate I’ll tier up my phindra in about 1 month

keen bobcat Jan 24, 2019, 9:36 AM

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50k to level up with an item that's rarer then uncommon might get 200 from a chest or 120 from a hostile chest but really 50k? Stop being con men and make a game for all types of players

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nova sierra Jan 24, 2019, 9:38 AM

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thats just tip of the iceberg @keen bobcat upgrades after that can cost upwards of 150k xp to level from 14 to 15. (Officer dependant of course)

keen bobcat Jan 24, 2019, 10:12 AM

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Just seen the game has over 5k in 5* Google play reviews. They are 90% fake

nova sierra Jan 24, 2019, 10:29 AM

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Tbh the game starts off fast and easy prob reviewers that have only played the game a few hours

keen bobcat Jan 24, 2019, 10:43 AM

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Most of the reviews are just 5* with no comment from experience they are the ones that have come from the devs themselves or have come from people being offered free stuff

carmine jay Jan 24, 2019, 12:14 PM

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Hey @keen bobcat , im looking for a new tin foil hat, got one going spare?

keen bobcat Jan 24, 2019, 12:19 PM

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Never been on a game that's offered you stuff for a 5* review then mono?

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 12:30 PM

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Have a readup on how online reviewers monitise their content @keen bobcat

keen bobcat Jan 24, 2019, 12:40 PM

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Don't think these are actually reviewers though do you?

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carmine jay Jan 24, 2019, 1:00 PM

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This game offers nothing for a review @keen bobcat . There where 3M downloads in December. Maybe some people just like it?

fathom grove Jan 24, 2019, 1:43 PM

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@rare roost you wrote yesterday something about the Company behänd These Game

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 1:45 PM

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@carmine jay correlation is not causation, downloads are meaningless as its free to download and play, players can leave the game as easily as they can download it within the first few weeks having paid nothing.

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its not a measurement for success financially or in its execution as a game, it is a measurement of how well the ads worked and even then not wholly accurate.

fathom grove Jan 24, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Are you sure scopely earn much Money?

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Why would they Need a Series c?

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 1:47 PM

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@naive yoke could also be taken from the surveys promted after you install the game

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@fathom grove scopely search for inexperienced developers working on games with potential, they then spin a deal to fund the developers, attach an existing IP to the mechanics, use knowledge of spending patterns and algorithm processes to generate the monetization system of the game to maximise profits in the first few months then move on.

This is how the company makes its money.

fathom grove Jan 24, 2019, 1:51 PM

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But they didnt make much Money. They die a Series c with 160 Million.

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 1:51 PM

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what are you talking about?

fathom grove Jan 24, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Would the Company profitabel Nobody would soll Parts of it

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Look at the Blog.

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They got 160 Million from external vc s

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 1:52 PM

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No, I mean the words you are using dont form a coherent sentence

fathom grove Jan 24, 2019, 1:53 PM

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You Said they earn a lot of Money. But i was Wanderung why they Need external Investors Then?

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 1:54 PM

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So they can afford to license larger IP's to make even more money off of.

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It also costs them money as they have to invest in the devs in the first place.

Digit were 1.5mil in debt when they signed up with scopely.

This is just how buisness is done. You reinforce the idea your a successful company to get more investers onboard so so you can invest more, make more money back, ect ect.

You dont have to actually make money, just stay ahead of the due dates for returning your investments

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You could just as easily ask why digit didnt just look for some VC's directly for funds rather then working with a publisher like scopely @fathom grove

fathom grove Jan 24, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Do you working in These Business? Or why do you have all the numbers?

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 2:01 PM

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No, just throwing out my opinion on the system in place, I watch digit very closely, they're irelands only large scale games developer.

fathom grove Jan 24, 2019, 2:05 PM

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How much invest you?

carmine jay Jan 24, 2019, 2:14 PM

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My point about the downloads @rare roost is not that the game is perfect and ofc downloads don’t mean much but with that that many downloads u are likely to get some 5^ reviews... please don’t try to turn this point into another “Scopely are scammers and the game is crap rant”.

A large number of downloads increases the likelihood and number of reviews. That’s it

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 2:23 PM

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@carmine jay I agree, but without comparing the metric to player retention and without filtering for players that only play for a few hours and leave, its perfectly reasonable to assume the review are inaccurate and therefor useless/misleading.

The game experience from lvl 1-10 is completely different from the experience from lvl 15 onwards.

The publisher knows that, the developers know that, the long term players know that. That is why most people on here think the reviews are bots, they dont represent the actual game, just the first few hours.

This is why steam show game time next to ppls reviews, so you can actually evaluate the validity of the review.

But I guess a ton of positive reviews that don't represent the quality of the game accurately look really really good to the VC's that scopely just got to invest in them.

carmine jay Jan 24, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Fair points, agreed.

And as loose lips sink ships, something like Scopely paying for reviews would get out eventually and significantly impact them so they really wouldn’t bother, hence my initial tin hat comment

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Game is excellent early game. Painful mid game unless you pay and nigh on impossible without 000s in late game rn

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For spenders it is an awesome experience tho, imo

fathom grove Jan 24, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Maybe we should bet how long will the game survive

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Once you get to lvl 18-20 it becomes a great experence for free to play players too as you just steal all the rss from the paying players @carmine jay .

However I dont think thats a good model to keep your game going.

fathom grove Jan 24, 2019, 2:40 PM

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I am 19 at the moment

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But I don’t understand the game mechanics

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 2:40 PM

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which ones @fathom grove ?

fathom grove Jan 24, 2019, 2:41 PM

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Why I get turas blueprints for example,for killing lev 19plus enemies

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But my turas is still to weak for all the jelly’s

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 2:42 PM

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creates are random drops within lvl brackets, so just as an example lvl 15-18 drop a collection of parts

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lvl 19-21 systems would drop slightly higher lvl parts

fathom grove Jan 24, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Yeah I know. But I got by formships I didn’t need anymore

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With 20 I get the kehra with much more power

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 2:45 PM

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so lvl your station and ships and move to a higher lvl area

noble ridge Jan 24, 2019, 2:48 PM

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It's exactly why we've been asking repeatedly for us to be able to dismantle ships we no longer use and get uncommon mats in return.

opal slate Jan 24, 2019, 3:48 PM

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You devs really need to fix a serious gameplay error. A player level 22 with Kehra and Vahklas ships over power ratings of 79,000 attacked five players whose stations ranged of levels 17 & 18. He did this repeatedly for over 30 minutes as he wore out the safety five minute auto-sheilds of those players and then cleaned out at least two of those player's stations.

Why is it possible for a level 22 player to attack others who are 4 and 5 levels lower? That is a completely unacceptable error. It is the same equivalent of a level 15 being able to attack a level 2 player. There is no way for a player five levels lower to protect or retaliate against that large of a level difference. You devs need to fix this problem, and quick.

I know that you devs only care about the money that comes in from the pay-to-win players, but a game is only sustainable short-term if you do not consider the player-base as a whole. Make this game enjoyable for the non-payers so that they might eventually choose to buy kits instead of you causing mass exodus of upset players.

pastel dune Jan 24, 2019, 4:02 PM

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@opal slate Again, since you posted this in multiple channels. Use the peace shields. That's what they are for.

carmine jay Jan 24, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Wait until a faction ship comes for you @opal slate 😂

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Bottom line is this game is very unforgiving and not f2p friendly unless you play smart and have friends to support you.

If you don’t think in this game or plan your advancement, it’ll be over quick

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 4:14 PM

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@opal slate thats not a mistake, thats the design of the game, its intended.

opal slate Jan 24, 2019, 5:01 PM

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What happened to the 3 up/down level protection range?

nova sierra Jan 24, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Will be nice to rename the game Something like " 23/7 mining corporation" or something similar :-) that's only thing this game forces You to do, have no way to " startleet command " when you are forced just to mine :-)

opal slate Jan 24, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Peace shields don’t last for ever. So when a player goes on a glitched killing spree around 7am, he can almost guarantee that 8hr shields will be coming down before players are about to refresh a new shield.

mint jasper Jan 24, 2019, 5:06 PM

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@opal slate 3 up/down range increases at 17 or 18

carmine jay Jan 24, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Explain the glitch in detail for us please @opal slate

queen cradle Jan 24, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Personally, I wish there was a larger safe period, a lvl 20 + hitting with 117k ships on 18s with 20k ships...way OP imho.

carmine jay Jan 24, 2019, 5:10 PM

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17s - 23
18s - 25
19s - 27

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It’s only at 19 that you stand little chance

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And all levels you can shield ofc

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A lot of people level too fast and/or don’t have the right stuff. Sure, it takes time or money but it’s actually fairly balanced 🤗

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🍿

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Put it this way, a well equipped 17 with a jelly will easily kill a rushed 20 with a Kehra

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I know because I did it 😁

opal slate Jan 24, 2019, 5:22 PM

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A player lvl 22 with grade 3 ships (that have a starting power greater than most tiered grade 2 ships) should not be able to attack lower level players. Especially players that are 5 lvls lower and max ship power is less than 1/4 the strength of the attacker.

carmine jay Jan 24, 2019, 5:25 PM

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The jelly at max is better than a tier 3 3* kehra

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The fact you don’t have it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist 🤗

opal slate Jan 24, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Jelly’s are pay-to-win. And you have to pay to upgrade.

carmine jay Jan 24, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Yep

opal slate Jan 24, 2019, 5:28 PM

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Yep, only reinforces my point that there is a serious game issue.

dusty gale Jan 24, 2019, 5:35 PM

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@nova sierra that’s because the higher level one is prior update. The lower one is the one nerfed post update. Once all the old ones are gone they won’t re appear

nova sierra Jan 24, 2019, 5:36 PM

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@dusty gale thank you

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 6:05 PM

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@queen cradle you're asking them to design a game that restricts and punishes paying players from being able to the new "toys" they have purchased on the rest of the community.

Flat lvl restrictions dont work, nomatter where you put them, they're too inflexible.

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@opal slate for the last time, the game doesn't have issues in its design , it is working as intended.

If you don't want to be kicked around by paying players then spend more money.

That is the basis of the games design. To get you to spend money.

mint jasper Jan 24, 2019, 6:16 PM

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^

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If you expect Scopely to run this game for more than 1.5-2yrs after they've milked it, you're mistaken

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 6:17 PM

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@mint jasper its odd because thats the opposite stance of the developers who have stated they plan to release content for the game over the next 5 years.

mint jasper Jan 24, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Yeah, and GoW devs thought the same thing

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 6:18 PM

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But the game isnt designed for that scale of progress

mint jasper Jan 24, 2019, 6:18 PM

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devs != CFO

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 6:19 PM

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I was paraphrasing the chief executive of the developers company digit

paper swallow Jan 24, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Is there plans to get rid of inactive players? They are starting to fill up systems

faint kelp Jan 24, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Yes they are.

opal slate Jan 24, 2019, 7:52 PM

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For the last time, I was not the one attacked. I was watching others being attacked.

opal slate Jan 24, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Easy PvP fix... Once a player completes Grade 3 ship research, they can no longer attack anyone else who has not completed that research.

nova sierra Jan 24, 2019, 8:26 PM

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That is quite unfair towards those who just completed that... They wont ben able todo anything

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@opal slate and just because you complete it, doesn't mean you have those ships.. and even then, the ships start out relatively weak.

Here's the thing

players get a free 8 hrs shield EVERY day from daily quests
players can get shields DIRT cheap from the alliance store

People should be able to shield for free 16 out of 24 hrs a day

and that's a BARGAIN.. most pvp games make you outright pay or work VERY hard to get shields

even if PVP were +-3, their bases would still get throttled.

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@naive yoke I'm not talking about the game in general. JUST getting free shields

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That's the bargain

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most PVP games make you outright pay real $ for shields

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hence the bargain 😃

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nah you should never be able to shield 24 /7 that removes the whole risk/reward element from the game

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but yes, the game as a whole is a cash grab lol

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there is no PVP if your base can shield 24/7. and if people shield 24/7, the game would be boring and everyone would quit

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i disagree. No shield should be indefinite

and mining ship hits aren't that big of a deal imo. Mine get hit 12Xs/day. I just send them right back out and I still mine tons of stuff

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and the ST name has nothing to do with it. In the game we play outside the federation. So all the morals and values of star trek, don't really apply here

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What level are you? You have to mine eventually unless you get enough g3 stuff from killing miners

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That'd do it LOL. People on my server recall a lot before cap is reached so everyone is forced to mine right now

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mining raids dont work on my server at the moment

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We do

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There's about 7 of us that are 30+ and the loot boxes for us , on the new servers, are CRAPPY lol

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@naive yoke it started Dec 1 LOL

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there's about 75 people that are level 23-28

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 9:11 PM

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@naive yoke how is it stupidity if it generates more money from the game as a whole then if it was designed to be more fair?

nova sierra Jan 24, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Damn all you guys spending money are getting played

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All the actual reviews on the iOS App Store are all 1 or 2 stars saying that the game is trash 😂

rare roost Jan 24, 2019, 10:12 PM

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It's the few that spend 900-1500 that are the target market of the game.

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No, they won't shut it down, when the income slows they'll add an event or new ship or merge the servers and the money will roll in.

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@naive yoke I agree with everything your saying, but some company's are in it for the long hall, to build something, the riot games, the supercells of the games industry, and some just want to make fast cash and move on, the day's, the scopelys...

Unfortunately consumers are extremely stupid.

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EA*

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That's the thing @naive yoke , what bad press? According to reviews and scopelys income projections and new found investments from VCs this is the most successful game ever made, 10/10

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You know I made an account on kings of the realm, digits previous title, I asked the community what the game was like..... They told me to log out and never look back.

nova sierra Jan 24, 2019, 11:06 PM

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Market research shows that the majority of the profit is from 1% of the player base... they won’t cater to the rest

karmic dagger Jan 24, 2019, 11:08 PM

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Overall the game is great but you will lose players and get negative reviews if the game cannot be played without monetary investment.

ebon thistle Jan 25, 2019, 3:47 AM

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@carmine jay yea but a level 19 with a 50K jelly stands no chance against a 23 with a 106K kehra happens every day

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the only 4 star reviews are all from beta when it was decent , since scoply took over and changed its all be 1 and 2 stars and the one or two fan boys giving it 4 stars

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 7:21 AM

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Hard working mining corporation at it's best :-)

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Did we run out of hostiles? I'm in Mewudoh lvl 25, and there are only 6 hostiles!

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They warp away fear for their lifes :-)

cloud torrent Jan 25, 2019, 9:01 AM

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Low rates will end up killing the game because vast majority of players are F2P and it's stupid how hard it is for them to grow, P2P players will keep paying until they see people drops the game and we will have nobody to play with

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 9:58 AM

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@potent cipher how inceompetent are u guys? i just lost 2 ships because after weakening him with my first ship, i tried to go for the kill with my second...lo and behold, instead of targeting the enemy player, i targeted a hostile who was close to him....he escaped with the damaged ship and had the time to come with a healed vessel and kill my second ship.
So, you greedy incompetents, first make it so that if i target from more than 2 sec away, my ship goes crazy and jumps to the speed of sound, making it impossible to cath the guy....and made the interface so it's a roll of the dice when u try to attack fast...u might get the target, or a hostile...or a fucking rss node!

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But it's ok...as long as you get our money!

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@potent cipher since u will use the excuse that i was rude, in order to ignore my previous message, i will not be rude now and ask you a pertinent question:
How do you explain/justify that in a PVP based game, the PVP part is broken?

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 12:33 PM

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@naive yoke how do you feel about the latest update to base mechanics making raiding bases easier rather than harder as per your campaign?

carmine jay Jan 25, 2019, 12:36 PM

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🍿

pearl nexus Jan 25, 2019, 2:35 PM

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@potent cipher
Thanks for the minning event.. But Seriously you guys need to fix captain skills related to mining..

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 3:17 PM

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@potent cipher you are one of the rudest people i have known. All u do is listen to music and cash in our money... u should feel ashamed, but lacking any manners i am sure you lack any sense of responsability

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@nova sierra he is a scopely employee working on a different game (see his profile pic) who is a fan of this game and volunteers his time to help out here as and when he can, give the dude a break

potent cipher Jan 25, 2019, 3:33 PM

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ty Phil...

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so yeah pretty much trying to answer what i can, help when i can

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while Q2 is the actual game CM

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 3:39 PM

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@nova sierra the wife of the gangster is not innocent just because she doesn't do the dirty deeds, not as long as she wears the furs

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whatever dude

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@potent cipher @nova sierra any truth to the rumours you guys are married? 😂

potent cipher Jan 25, 2019, 3:49 PM

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oh boy.

pure walrus Jan 25, 2019, 3:54 PM

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@potent cipher Well congrats than...

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 3:54 PM

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😂 😅 🤔

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we'll do a whip around for a wedding card for ye 😂

pure walrus Jan 25, 2019, 3:55 PM

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Although I imagine it to be quite, uhm, hard to work with the spouse.

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Imagine JB and Q2 Like that...

📎 Married-Couple-Working-Together2.jpg

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 4:01 PM

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😂

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They are answering to support messages & chat while doing daily missions :-)?

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@nova sierra maintenance with no admin warning again...that's my kehra dead as I just sent it to hostile faction space.

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Admin warned before 10 minutes of reboot

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Well atleast on my server anyway

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Not my server they didn't

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Anyway, those angry klingons will have some fun with your Hull :-)

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Romulans....with only 100k dilithium left Ican't afford unnecessary repairs

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Lets prezent honors to your crew sacrifice :-)

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Oh ... That's bad ... For the moment I have some rss ... :-) stole loads of noobs :-)

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Did your admin give eta on maintenance time?

queen cradle Jan 25, 2019, 4:09 PM

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30-45 mins for downtime

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 4:09 PM

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30 - 45 mn

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30 minutes but ... I expect them to messup stuffs even more :-)

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Yeah at lvl26 100k barely cover my 1 research and build per day...

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I know ... Game is designed that way ... They wanna make You to level your credit card

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It's normal ...

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The game have those features/bugs to drive peoples nuts, to push them over the edge and just buy those so called premium packs

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Server is up😃...kehra is down 😪

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🖖

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Lol killed 2 patrols b4 the rommies could take it out 😂

carmine jay Jan 25, 2019, 4:24 PM

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What ship is it @nova sierra ?

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2 aint bad!

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 4:25 PM

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108k kehra...first 2 were only lvl25 tbird was 27

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Third*

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Little extra rep in exchange for a hefty repair bill

carmine jay Jan 25, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Yeah, thats not bad tho, my 120 vahklas is lucky to kill 2 trained birds

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 4:59 PM

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Just answering some DMs.

📎 STmarried.jpg

wraith sluice Jan 25, 2019, 5:08 PM

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@nova sierra so with introduction of new survey with diff mining boost, and yet current surveys boosts still broken? Still able to mine trit with envoy and ship claiming empty mine while still mining due to mining bonus not working

hasty plover Jan 25, 2019, 5:20 PM

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8k cargo for the northstar? WTF?

rough dagger Jan 25, 2019, 5:23 PM

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I thought we were getting a loyalty reward at level 18+ that was the full northstar BP?

hasty plover Jan 25, 2019, 5:23 PM

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You're reward is to mine with your war ship because it has more capacity.

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Wondering whos the genie who did the math for the event :-))

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@nova sierra any idea how far you can upgrade nortstar with one 100€ pack? Materials seem to indicate a single tier if you are lucky...

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So, for 12 hours, You have to get 75k points, at lvl17-28 You can mine with 3 ships, max 1k max dil meaning 5k points :-)

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For what in name of god anyone thinking to get 75k points :-)?

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Another task no one can actually complete :-) ?

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Well, there is a point to buy the ship I know, but ... That's bad timming If I buy it there is no point to keep mining for solo right?

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My envoy can mine 10k parsteel in an hour...i have 3 of em I'll be done in 2 hours from now...

hasty plover Jan 25, 2019, 5:31 PM

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The dilithium mine times are absolutely horrible.

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 5:32 PM

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Yep you'd be a fool to go for dilithium...especially if you only have one envoy

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1 fully tiered envoy can get it done in 9hrs with parsteel...give or take

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@wraith sluice hope to have news on that soon.

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@nova sierra I am afraid I don't.

hasty plover Jan 25, 2019, 5:47 PM

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@nova sierra What's with the lack of cargo capacity on the north star? It's not even worth getting if you can't mine anything over 8K

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Not tiered to max maybe 8k ...

hasty plover Jan 25, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Cargo is MK8

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not sure how much further ya need to go.

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Most probably at tier7 will have same cargo like the jelly

hasty plover Jan 25, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Either a new bug or definitely messed up

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

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Nope they said before have low cargo size

hasty plover Jan 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

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Then totally worthless and people wasted their money

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Awesome.

cloud torrent Jan 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

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What are these cargo pieces

hasty plover Jan 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Hell I even got some cargo ups in gifts and still 8k

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garbage

fickle root Jan 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Base warp range is 20. Rest of the exercise left to the reader.

hasty plover Jan 25, 2019, 5:56 PM

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@cloud torrent Not sure, but they do nothing to give you usable capacity.

cloud torrent Jan 25, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Yeah thx

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Tougher than an envoy, has bonuses for mining g3, better range....but yeah sure focus on the lower cargo capacity...no pleasing some people

hasty plover Jan 25, 2019, 5:58 PM

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My guys are raging hard threatening to quit the game.

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ugh

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Your guys should quit equine dentistry...

cloud torrent Jan 25, 2019, 6:03 PM

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It's a very fast miner, not an afk or raider

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If u play, u get profit

subtle plinth Jan 25, 2019, 6:04 PM

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@nova sierra why is the cargo limit worse than my battleship. Waste of money and build time

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Whaaaaa this new thing that only requires a small investment of time to have doesn't fit my expectations whaaa...jeez

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:11 PM

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@subtle plinth Well lets see... how does your battleship do at mining/hr compared to the north star?

hasty plover Jan 25, 2019, 6:11 PM

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@nova sierra Shill for the devs much? I could just use my war ships instead. The cargo, by any measure is absolutely laughable even fully upgraded.

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Sorry but there are plenty of legitimate faults and issues with this game but bitching that a new ship isn't up to your arbitrary standards is kinda pathetic. It's been well publicised that the northstar would be tougher than envoy, have better range and receive bonuses to g3 mining l at the cost of a reduced cargo capacity. If you don't like it stick to your envoys.

hasty plover Jan 25, 2019, 6:12 PM

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The envoys are better. Won't need to taked 40 trips versus 5

subtle plinth Jan 25, 2019, 6:12 PM

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This is a feedback channel. I am giving feedback. Trolls go back to your caves

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 6:13 PM

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If scopely gave you a free wallet you'd complain there's no cash in it...

subtle plinth Jan 25, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Bad luck to give a wallet without cash...

hasty plover Jan 25, 2019, 6:14 PM

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@subtle plinth if they gave me a free wallet, my cash would dissapear when i put it in.

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lol

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Nobody here is trolling. You gave feedback, people explained to you why your feedback wasn't necessary. It's intentional. IT gives variety to the ships. Instead of just "Oh, this mining ship is better than my previous one" you now are going to be like "Hey, I can warp really far away with this NS and inhale all the stuff, or use it to speed mine nodes and rapidly warp back to my base... or I could use an envoy to AFK mine overnight"

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It gives you options on HOW you are going to mine.

hasty plover Jan 25, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Yeah no argument justifies the worthless cargo capacity

subtle plinth Jan 25, 2019, 6:15 PM

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I don’t even want it to mine

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I want it to gives some bases the reacharound

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Might aswell use my Kehra

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Reduced capacity. Not like this...

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My envoy is 130k. This is 8

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Joke

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:16 PM

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@hasty plover I have plenty of arguments as to what justify the cargo capacity.

subtle plinth Jan 25, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Just one of those people who likes to argue with everyone

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Go look in the general discussion channel if you want to get all high and mighty. Lots in there saying the same stuff about cargo

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Again if you don't like it stick to your envoys and the rest of us can finish our faction dailys far away from you and 3x faster

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Just because the vocal people are saying something, doesn't mean it's true.

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 6:17 PM

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whats the point of argueing, the numbers clearly have a typo there is no argumentation about that

subtle plinth Jan 25, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Because he loves a good argument. Nothing better to do clearly

eternal tartan Jan 25, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Guys capacity needs to be buffed different gameplay or not. It's a rare T3. The Jelly rightfully outclassed all T2

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This ship is absolute garbage as-is. I will discourage anyone from getting a pack and getting as disappointed as all of us are

hasty plover Jan 25, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Yep capacity sucks, no matter what way you slice it.

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:24 PM

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@inner plaza Except they don't, and once you think about the purpose of the ship you'll understand why.

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@subtle plinth Actually I'm just replying to a couple people in between playing the game 🤷

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Doesn't require research, doesn't require faction rep/credits can be obtained for simply mining g1 for a few days plus has all previously stated advantages...it's worth at least testing out

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:26 PM

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It's purpose is for rapidly mining things. It's not a "sit it on a node for several hours/overnight" ship. Use your envoy for that.

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Maybe it's not for your taste but that doesn't automatically make it garbage for everyone else

flat cedar Jan 25, 2019, 6:29 PM

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@formal patrol quick question, did u ever play cstrike?

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Oh yeah and calling me a dev shill is hilarious, I've raged here about legitimate issues plenty...this isn't one of those

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:29 PM

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@flat cedar I'll reply in PM

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 6:42 PM

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put the numbers x10 and you have exactly what you want - a ship with faster mining and less cargo. but numbers as they are, are ridic

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imagine it having 500 capacity, would you still argue about that? @formal patrol because it seems like it

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Then don't use it, if you can't see what it can be used for

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 6:44 PM

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its not about me using it or not, its about numbers and scaling

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Stick stonn in there and your faction dailys are done in one trip...

subtle plinth Jan 25, 2019, 6:45 PM

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My faction daily is 10k. Not going to happen

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:45 PM

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@inner plaza And the numbers/scaling work just fine. It's not supposed to outclass your other survey ships. It's supposed to give you options.

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Look at it's range and power...this is available to anyone who can put in the time regardless of level or wallet size

subtle plinth Jan 25, 2019, 6:47 PM

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It’s a rare t3. Should be much better than a t2 envoy

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:47 PM

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And it is

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Its a damn t4ade-off not necessarily a trade-up

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:48 PM

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And it's hardly "rare" since... ya know... you can get one without paying, quite easily

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 6:48 PM

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well i'm done with this discussion. i'm new to this game and my 1* fortunate has 21k capacity right now. if you think 5k capacity on a rare 3* miner is okay, thats up to you

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Ah that explains quite a bit.

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Give up @formal patrol they don't understand...

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Lemme know how often you actually use all of your capacity lmao

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 6:49 PM

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4h parsteel mining and its full

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my 1* with 21k capacity i mean

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so it happensn quite often

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Sure, cause it's parsteel. Nobody cares about parsteel

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Now go do that with trit, dilit, 2* or 3*

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 6:50 PM

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you should care about parsteel in this event tho 😁

teal cloak Jan 25, 2019, 6:50 PM

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level 24 care about parsteel lol sigh

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Not really, since even on a fortunate it's about the same points/hr as mining trit

teal cloak Jan 25, 2019, 6:51 PM

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love the 2.6M buildings when you have 1.6M storage 😃

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:51 PM

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And an envoy? Lol, you'd be stupid to mine parsteel

teal cloak Jan 25, 2019, 6:51 PM

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thats true i dont mine it 😃

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Yea was responding to s1n

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 6:52 PM

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i said 1* fortunate, envoy is 2* no? ;D

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:52 PM

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🤦

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 6:52 PM

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and even with the envoy you get more points by mining parsteel

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in those events

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:52 PM

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No, you don't.

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 6:52 PM

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yes you do

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Alright lemme break the math down for ya

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 6:53 PM

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please do so

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:54 PM

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With my t5 envoy and a 50% trit captain maneuver (though idk if those are working atm), I mine trit at 4624/hr. That's 13,872 points/hr. If I was to do parsteel, I'd get ~7380/hr

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Par rate 1200/hr = 1200 points per hour
Tri rate 320/hr = 960 points per hour
Dil rate 80/hr = 400 points per hour

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Multiply by your ships mining bonus

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No mining officer or ship special bonuses work

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 6:55 PM

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we not talking about captains here - you could aswell take parsteel captain

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Okay, so no captain?

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t5 envoy mines trit at 3640/hr, that's 10,920 points/hr

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Still mines par at 7380 points/hr

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 6:58 PM

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The advertised rate does not equal the effective rate, players have been reporting this since day 1 of scopely version 3rd Nov or whenever, anyone who doesn't know this should hang their heads in shame, or sit in the corner with a pointy hat

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 6:59 PM

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besides that - i dont know where you get those numbers from mozzy. my envoy does 1886 T per h and 6480 P per h.

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Here, i'll test that real quick as well. gimme a couple mins

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@inner plaza Sounds like you don't have a tiered envoy

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 6:59 PM

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but it reflects exaclty the numbers as phillucpicard posted

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if you take into consideration the 15% from envoy on T mining

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Ever wonder why your ship is still mining after the timer reaches zero? It's because the app/client factors in the officer and ship special bonuses but the server doesn't

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 7:01 PM

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It only factors in the officer bonus. Officers don't work, but ship bonus does

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At least, I've never heard ship bonus NOT working. I'm still testing it real quick

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 7:02 PM

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There are two ship bonuses, special abilities and mining bonus

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Mining bonus works but envoy gets no special Tri boost and horizon gets no Dil boost

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 7:02 PM

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all of this aside - the northstar still does not have enough capacity

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 7:03 PM

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True

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 7:03 PM

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It has plenty

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 7:03 PM

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its not for mining delithium, it is for mining 3* materials

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Only useful to ninja mine enough for a batch and return to base

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 7:04 PM

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i dont know the math exactly, but i assume you cant even mine more than 10 minutes without overreaching the protected storage

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 7:04 PM

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What use that is to a player who had reserves of g3 is beyond me

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Guy in my alliance has it, and has horizon as well. His exact words (after people shit talking it nonstop for this very thing) were "It's actually good. Cargo shouldnt be an issue when you bring it back more often"

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"You still end up with more material in half the time"

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 7:05 PM

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this still holds true if you change the numbers and give it more capacity :p

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 7:05 PM

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But then it would completely replace other survey ships, which it's not supposed to.

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 7:06 PM

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how much 3* does he mine per hour? and how much protected storage does it have for him?

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well arent you supposed to have multiple miners at the same time anyway

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 7:06 PM

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It's not a "Well, fuck those other survey ships this one is much better". It's a "Hmm I'm gunna be active for a bit, so I'm gunna use my speed miner since it's faster than my other surveys but since I'm active I can recall/resend it often"

lucid canopy Jan 25, 2019, 7:06 PM

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👆

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 7:09 PM

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yes and you can multiply the capacity x10 and you still have the same statement

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you still cant just let it do its thing over night with numbers x10

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Then it would still be too strong

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 7:10 PM

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so the concept stays the same

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well, i disaggree but that's fine 😂

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Cool, then don't use it

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 7:11 PM

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i'm 99% sure those numbers are fukked up and will get fixxed, but we will see

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 7:12 PM

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I doubt it

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inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 7:13 PM

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yep saw that

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 7:19 PM

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Btw: My alliance lead has a T7 NS and says "If you can watch it, it's worth it cause you'll get your stuff waaaaay faster than a fully maxed out envoy"

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 7:23 PM

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i wouldnt be so sure about that. you need to get home and then warp away for mining again no? which takes some time 😛 so if you have to recall every 15 minutes and then need 5 minutes for warping, that makes it only 75% as fast as it seems

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 7:23 PM

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@nova sierra you guys screwed up bases in the maintenance. They are now healing to 50% again and are bugged and too hard to loot

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Is the whole cargo protected?

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Disregard,saw it ..yikes

robust bone Jan 25, 2019, 7:27 PM

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@formal patrol I agree.

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 7:29 PM

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@nova sierra Probably because prior to this update, base raiding was FUBAR'd. Reverting it would be a quick fix

robust bone Jan 25, 2019, 7:29 PM

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people who are complaining, cearly don't realize the potential of the ship, and how slow mining g3 is with other ships

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 7:30 PM

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@formal patrol actually based rating was normal… And they broke it today

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Bases are not supposed to heal to 50% once broken

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 7:30 PM

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You realize that once you broke a base, you could raid it with any ship, right? An envoy could loot it, hell I saw pics of people using their Realta (your first ship) to loot bases

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Because the base's HP went negative so once you started combat, boom it was dead already so you won

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That's how it was prior to this update

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 7:31 PM

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@formal patrol no not correct. You needed 12% of the bases power

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Not any ship would do it

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 7:31 PM

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I raided a ~180k power base with my 16k power envoy 🤷

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Nonetheless, that's stupid even if it was somehow 12%

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 7:32 PM

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That’s roughly 10% LOL… A little less

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 7:32 PM

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8.89%

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Bases are supposed to be that easy once they are cracked… Even if the base had one hit point it would still be just as easy

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Ah yes, so someone could come back after being asleep with zero resources whatsoever

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 7:33 PM

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The only think a neg number did was cause it to auto heal longer

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@formal patrol yes, That’s the way the game is supposed to be played… If you forget to put on the shield, you can be zeroed

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 7:33 PM

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So put on a minimum 8 hour shield every night?

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 7:34 PM

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Yes, try playing most pvp games... If you don’t shield you’re screwed in most games

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Game gives you a free eight hour shield every day in your daily missions

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 7:34 PM

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I've played several pvp games, haven't had that issue

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 7:34 PM

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Plus you can get Shields dirt cheap in the alliance store… There’s really no reason for people not to shield

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You can be a free player and shield almost 16 hrs a day

formal patrol Jan 25, 2019, 7:36 PM

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Or, maybe they should have proper base raiding

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 7:36 PM

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Well they have to work within the limitations of the game

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10% is about right

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Yes that was part of the big patch the other week

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I’m talking about what they screwed up earlier this morning

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It's either a rollback due to complaining or they done fucked up again

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Bases are now healing to 50% once defeated

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So now we’ve gone back to them being not worth it

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It was possible before that update, just easier and cheaper after it

supple bluff Jan 25, 2019, 7:54 PM

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DO NOT GET TOO EXCITED ABOUT THE NORTH STAR!

An Envoy will mine at 1850 an hour with 10K safe cargo. The North Star may mine faster at 2145 per hour but it only has 450 safe cargo!
This rare G3 RARE surveyor has 1/24 the cargo space of the common G2 surveyor, but it IS 15% faster.

THAT is Scopely Economics for you!

bitter wagon Jan 25, 2019, 7:58 PM

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@potent cipher I get that the North Star is supposed to be a speed miner, but it seems worse than the Horizon in every single regard. The G3 common is better than the G3 rare? That doesn’t seem right.

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 8:01 PM

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@nova sierra

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Hull at zero on my server

mint hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 8:22 PM

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They should be ashamed of this new ship. It's inferior to an Envoy in every way except adding a couple to the warp range and being hard to kill. I wouldn't even mine dil with the NS unless it's in the same zone as my base

rare roost Jan 25, 2019, 8:25 PM

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yea, its shit except for in the ways that it isnt..... @mint hemlock

Maybe its just suppose to be a ship thats good at some things and bad at others?????

mint hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 8:26 PM

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@rare roost barely faster mining than an Envoy but a scan fraction the capacity, might as well use a kehra or vahklas for raiding a base. if i had put the same resources to upgrading my kehra or vakhlas instead i'd have a 120k war ship instead of a 104k miner that can't mine

civic slate Jan 25, 2019, 8:41 PM

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i think that's the point @mint hemlock no disrespect intended, but it's not intended for raiding. it's intended for deep space mining. they're opnening up the mine fields in the far reaches of faction space none of us have been able to visit yet

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NOW, that being said @mint hemlock i agree, it's not worth buying i dont' think lmao, but if i can be earned as a free ship, sure. i thinkt he horizon is overall a better vessel, but i do more raiding, and not as much mining, so that suits my needs.

mint hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 8:43 PM

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@civic slate i just explored everything that got unlocked for me at tier 5, with +4 warp Scotty, and it's dismal. Nothing at all worth my time out there. All the best mining is still the lvl 28~20 zones.

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@civic slate 28~30 i meant. it's all trit and steel out there, and a couple of 3* mining areas that are only worth the trip if you move way out there or have a lot of protected cargo storage

teal cloak Jan 25, 2019, 8:45 PM

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warp 40 are the good ones 😃

civic slate Jan 25, 2019, 8:46 PM

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lol well then let's spend 500 bucks to get the NS to tier 9 and then we can send it to warp 40 systems hahaha, like i said @mint hemlock i woudlnt' buy it. i will probably earn it in the mining event, and i will PROBABLY spend to upgrade it. bt if i can save 20 bucks, i'll save the 20 bucks. lol

mint hemlock Jan 25, 2019, 8:49 PM

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@civic slate it has warp range 40 at tier 9? in that case it's not TERRIBLE if it's a long-term investment.. but who isn't going to have Horizons and faction ships by the time they can get enough rare mats to get this thing to tier 9? at least the jellyfish event shook things up - this is a complete dud of a ship.

civic slate Jan 25, 2019, 8:52 PM

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like i said, i wont' buy it lmao, but i understand some people are, and that's cool, as long as they know what they're getting. i have one guy in my ally who's already spent big bucks and has it to a tier 8 already. he seems satisfied. lol but dang. lot of $$$

fathom copper Jan 25, 2019, 9:33 PM

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NS ekstra mining speed is bugged

wicked jetty Jan 25, 2019, 9:35 PM

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fortunately this one is obtainable from the event if you do it daily

fathom copper Jan 25, 2019, 9:40 PM

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They need to fix the bonus form health otherwise NS it not much better then Enovy,

twilit slate Jan 25, 2019, 10:07 PM

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So if I buy the NS pack, does that mean I won't get the event and 24hr NS chest? Or do I still get those giving me a chance to essentially have two of them? @nova sierra @potent cipher

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 10:24 PM

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This mining event has revealed that my mining officers don’t seem to be giving any actual advantage. The timer changes, but the amount mined when compared to another ship captain that has no special ability is the same

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Good to know. Thanks for the comment. I’ll share with my group

celest pewter Jan 25, 2019, 11:04 PM

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Ok. The NS cargo capacity is absolutely pitiful. Unless your mining in system with your station the time warping home to empty the hold and back farvoutweighs the mining bonus to G3 making the envoy much more efficient

inner plaza Jan 25, 2019, 11:06 PM

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it is awesome for low level players 😄

celest pewter Jan 25, 2019, 11:06 PM

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Jelly at least had a 30k cargo hold. At teir 6 the NS only has 8k

kind fractal Jan 25, 2019, 11:07 PM

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@nova sierra Mining times and boosts are broken for ships. Envoy with Tritanium caption boost says it will mine 4600 trit per hour. I times it with a watch and the actual mining speed is 1,968 per hour. This is ridiculous considering the current event. It should take 5 and a half hours to complete with an envoy, but instead is impossible, taking 12.7 hours to max the individual event. See picture I took after 30 minutes of mining tritanium.

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celest pewter Jan 25, 2019, 11:09 PM

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The NS has G1 level cargo hold on a G3 ship. It should at least compare to the envoy

twilit slate Jan 25, 2019, 11:13 PM

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They indicated that it is faster like the Vahklas and because of that it has reduced capacity

celest pewter Jan 25, 2019, 11:16 PM

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Fuck that. My teir 4vFORTUNATE has 21k cargo. My teir 6 NS has 8k

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Literally 1/3 the cargo cap of the g1 miner

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No increased speed is going to compensate for th

slender cypress Jan 25, 2019, 11:17 PM

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@celest pewter what is the difference in mining speed for G3 mats between the two? In my opinion it's designed for active players to do quick darts between different systems

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I prefer mining speed over capacity, envoys can be used for afk trit/par/dil

celest pewter Jan 25, 2019, 11:18 PM

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The mining speed difference isn’t even close to offsetting the amount of extra travel time

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Maybe a 15-20 percent speed boost in mining

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On an 18k node the envoy just drains it dry while the NS has to make 2-3 trips

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If your mining in your home system it might be worth it but even a 1 min warp away and the envoy becomes more efficient

slender cypress Jan 25, 2019, 11:23 PM

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That's kinda sucky tbh lol

celest pewter Jan 25, 2019, 11:23 PM

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The NS needs a MINIMUM of fortunate lvl cargo hold

slender cypress Jan 25, 2019, 11:24 PM

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There's one or two officers that increase capacity, I guess it's deciding between using that or someone like McCoy who boosts the health (and therefore the speed of mining)

void breach Jan 25, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Just joined the server. Has anyone had the NS bug out. As in I leveled up to 35 but my crew slots did not unlock. Restarted the game and my ship went down to lvl 1.
The ship XP, latinum, survey parts, and everything used to lvl up are now gone. Ticket was sent in, but now I have a ship I need supplies for that I got in the legendary pack along with what I had already.

celest pewter Jan 25, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Even with that officer I only have 19k cargo. Unless teir 7+ greatly expands the cargo cap the ship is useless compared to envoy for out of system mining

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Err 10k cargo

slender cypress Jan 25, 2019, 11:28 PM

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lol

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Wonder what the highest level for this vessel is, I thought it was 35 (like the jelly).

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@void breach Not sure, I've only bought one pack in the past but I made sure to stay logged in for a while to give the game a chance to save

celest pewter Jan 25, 2019, 11:32 PM

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It’s a g3 ship so max teir and lvl should be same as other g3 ships

void breach Jan 25, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Hoping support can figure out what I used and put it back in my inventory. I would have stayed logged in but I didn’t think a catastrophe like this would possibly happen.

velvet oriole Jan 25, 2019, 11:48 PM

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It’s 9 tiers

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Lmao you guys spending money are getting played

velvet oriole Jan 25, 2019, 11:49 PM

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3 officers on the bridge and 6 can be unlocked by tiering up

slender cypress Jan 25, 2019, 11:49 PM

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9? Jesus lol, that's 45 levels

nova sierra Jan 25, 2019, 11:49 PM

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In 2 weeks the same people bitching about the North Star will buy another ship

velvet oriole Jan 25, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Got that info from guy who has one

barren plank Jan 25, 2019, 11:50 PM

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An Alliance named DNGR is making game play crappy. A lot of people are think of quitting the game because of them. They destroy every mining vessel they find, out of ROE, and then constantly attack bases. It would not be that bad if you could mine every now and then without spending what you mine on repairs.

celest pewter Jan 25, 2019, 11:51 PM

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What’s the cargo like at teir 9?

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Cause at teir 6 8000 is freaking pathetic

velvet oriole Jan 25, 2019, 11:53 PM

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If I’m not mistaken 14k

slender cypress Jan 25, 2019, 11:53 PM

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I'm genuinely curious as well, also what sort of strength it's got. I'm guessing it's going to be like a Kehra or Kumari, which tops out at something like 115-120k if I recall correctly

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but then again, it's got more tiers...

velvet oriole Jan 25, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Can’t remember right... just saw someone posting early in here

carmine jay Jan 25, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Kehra / Kumari go a lot higher than 120...

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There is a photo of a NS at 200 already

slender cypress Jan 25, 2019, 11:56 PM

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Jesus, what level is the player? lol

twilit slate Jan 25, 2019, 11:58 PM

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I have seen a kumari at 408k strength

ebon thistle Jan 26, 2019, 1:09 AM

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We have been singing the praises of the North Star .......a miner with less cargo space than a battleship

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even though the picture would leave you to believe based on its cargo hold graphics that it has double the space of a envoy considering they look alike yet the picture of the NS has a double hold while the envoy has a single ...but sadly the Envoy and Horizen has more cargo space by a mile

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its stronger so i guess that leaves it to be a base raiding cargo ship?

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with a lack luster protected cargo i wont be leaving it out thats forsure

celest pewter Jan 26, 2019, 4:14 AM

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Check the stats. Your fortunate has more cargo hold and protected cargo than the NS

formal patrol Jan 26, 2019, 5:01 AM

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Ah yes. New day, new people not understanding the point of the NS

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@ebon thistle It's not meant to mine massive amounts overnight or anything like that. And how often are you actually reaching cargo capacity? I'm betting never, unless you're mining something like Parsteel which nobody cares about

nova sierra Jan 26, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Whole point of NS is to use officers with high health to maximize the 3* mining boost

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But it sounds like boosts aren’t working for the NS too so ya...

ebon thistle Jan 26, 2019, 6:14 AM

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@formal patrol except max protected is at tier 1 is only 300 , so you an't minning nothing with all the whales attacking miners over protection limits , its not the max cargo i care about its the low protected cargo amount

formal patrol Jan 26, 2019, 6:15 AM

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Then don't sit it in a populated space if you plan on leaving it to mine above protected

ebon thistle Jan 26, 2019, 6:15 AM

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protected cargo is hit in like what 5 mins , and where isnt populated our server is populated everywhere i can go

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only places that arent are places i cant reach

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i honestly dont care about the caro capasicity what i care about is the protected cargo and i normal hit 3k to 6k and leave , except this ship sucks for that , the horizen also a 3 star uncommon and not rare has far better protected numbers , sure once i can hit tierr 4, 5, 6 ect then it becomes a beast thats hard to beat with like 50 , 60 , 200K power , but getting there is a long ways away

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basically its going to sit unused for a long time till i save up enough to upgrade because my envoy and horizen are far better for my needs

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the only thing i can see it good for is base cracking , or like my alliance member who has his at tier 8 already is using it for killing llv 31 hostiles in rom space

formal patrol Jan 26, 2019, 8:51 AM

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Have an alliance member who has both horizon and NS. His Horizon is I believe tier 3 or 4, can't remember. His NS is tier 7. He says the NS is vastly better than the Horizon for farming G3. He just warps it far out of harms way and can leave it to mine past it's protected limit cause most people can't go out that far. You just have to use your NS the same way. Put it in the least occupied system and let it go to town. You'll have to recall/resend it more often sure but you more than make up for that "lost" time.

nova sierra Jan 26, 2019, 9:06 AM

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Also if you choose to buy one then by the end of the event you should have 2 and can operate a shift rotation system where at least one is always mining

velvet oriole Jan 26, 2019, 9:35 AM

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Any idea when second day event starts for the North Star?

carmine jay Jan 26, 2019, 9:44 AM

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It was 5pm gmt yesterday so I’d put my money on that

nova sierra Jan 26, 2019, 10:00 AM

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@nova sierra uncommon refining ratio for 3* is totally broken... got almost any over the last week... impossible to improve without spending crazy money... time to stop playing this game methinks

carmine jay Jan 26, 2019, 10:34 AM

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What level are you @nova sierra ?

nova sierra Jan 26, 2019, 10:35 AM

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@carmine jay lvl24, but khera still at tier 4

carmine jay Jan 26, 2019, 10:36 AM

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Ok, well I hit 28 last night and I can tell you rates are still awful. Just hang here till they address it is my advice on

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I was 27 for a few weeks. Maybe 2 or 3 hits

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X2 twice a day

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Refining 3* is broke rn

viral pier Jan 26, 2019, 11:01 AM

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sincerly dissapointed, i think like others i should leave this game.
To big differences in what was admitted to some players and not to others.
to big difference in how a new player can play , and how we , the ones playing before the original launch are having difficulties to play.
and my complaints that are legit, because they would never arrive if i start playing now , are not acknowlegded.
saying that it work as intended, at that time always correct.
But when playing in a buggy , not correct working software at that moment is as intended.
I know that , everybody who works with software knows that.
But doing that against others that started later and did not have the same issues, bugs, features, does give them an advantage, why i and others are still coping with the things that were not working as it should , because due to fixes these things are not possible anymore.
our score, levels and gameplay wasi nfluenced by this , and scopely just waves this away , because it worked as intended.

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sincerly dissapointed, i think like others i should leave this game. To big differences in what was admitted to some players and not to others. to big difference in how a new player can play , and how we , the ones playing before the original launch are having difficulties to play. and my complaints that are legit, because they would never arrive if i start playing now , are not acknowlegded. saying that it work as intended, at that time always correct. But when playing in a buggy , not correct working software at that moment is as intended. I know that , everybody who works with software knows that. But doing that against others that started later and did not have the same issues, bugs, features, does give them an advantage, why i and others are still coping with the things that were not working as it should , because due to fixes these things are not possible anymore. our score, levels and gameplay wasi nfluenced by this , and scopely just waves this away , because it worked as intended.Maybe invest again hundres of dollars or Euros is the only thing Scopeley can change their mind, but if there are no other players left , these money investors will also stop playing.

formal patrol Jan 26, 2019, 11:22 AM

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I'm honestly not sure what his wall of text/google translate is trying to say.

nova sierra Jan 26, 2019, 11:31 AM

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Sounds like he is “sincerely disappointed”

nova sierra Jan 26, 2019, 12:53 PM

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Hello,

There is a bug on the North Star, they said on the Official-announcement:
"However, to maintain its speed, The NORTH STAR has sacrificed some of its Cargo limit."

But the North Star only have 4k cargo for a gain that is less than 25% of increase in speed compared to the Envoy but have 75% less cargo capacity ( at Tier1).

How is that "some of its cargo capacity" ? That likes "most of its cargo capacity".
Add to this that it only protect 300, that look like an insult for all player who bought the ships.

Should t the ship do better that the fortunate at least?

The Fortunate with no officer mine 900 the north star 2000
So 55% less for the fortunate
A cargo capacity 75% less for the North Start
The protected resources scale with the cargo capacity

PS : i didn't found the article in english, just google traduce that and forum/discord/manipulations will become clear when you see it.
https://korben.info/techniques-secretes-controler-forums-opinion-publique.html

Regards

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raven otter Jan 26, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Just realised i made a rookie mistake

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formal patrol Jan 26, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Hahah... Yea, double your power is probably not a good idea even with ship advantage... especially since his officer setup is much better than yours

nova sierra Jan 26, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Im level 17 and cant see the event. Why is this? the northstar event

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can anyone send a screenshot of the mining event for north star?

lusty sinew Jan 26, 2019, 5:38 PM

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Hey @nova sierra . Hope you see this. As you may or not be aware there is level of dissatisfaction with how the mechanics of the game operate and effect individual players. I think through listening and talking to the other players on our server the greatest dissatisfactions can be broken down into 3 areas. Which I will cover below. I am going to post line by line the issue and some possible solutions that have been proposed. I do not agree with them all, but I think collating the suggestions into one post may help gauge other players viewpoints. With that in mind, as I said I will post each suggestion on a line by line basis that way players can easily thumbs down the ones they disagree with but also thumbs up those do.
Hopefully as I’m an optimist people will contribute by voting up and down and that overall I hope to have captured the main suggestions I have saw kicking about.

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The game mechanics are broken and its causing players to leave the game,

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1: There is a constant need to send out miner after miner after it was wiped out (yet again)
Possible solutions for the miner issue:

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i: Further restrict hitting down to lower and up to higher levels by X levels below and above players current level (suggested just 2 levels)

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ii: Restrict hitting down to lower by X levels below players current level (suggested just 2 levels)

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iii: Keep hitting up to higher levels the same (forces a higher player who can be hit by lower players to progress, rather than stagnate)

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iv: Give an attack warning before a miner can actually be attacked. x-y seconds (possibly 5-10), so someone online can runaway/recall instead of being hit, but if offline it’s their fault.

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v: Give miners a shield like a base. Much weaker and its automatic, but only holds for x-y seconds (5-10 seconds) after the ship is hit. Giving the player a chance to recall before it drops and looses it’s cargo.

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2: It’s simply too easy for high level players to strip lower players of everything in a base and people are rage quitting because of it.
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i: Decrease the amount of levels you can kick down to. Say 2 levels below

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ii: Massively increase the vault capacities so that less resources can be stripped.

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iii: Limit the amount of hits one player can do against a station per X time.

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iv: Limit the amount of hits in total across all players that can be launched against a station per X time (ie the engineers got the shields back up, giving a player a chance to get back online).

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v: The mechanics here are fine do not change them, it’s possible to earn 12 hours worth of station shields a day through daily goals, Players need to use them when offline.

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3: Revisit what level can hit what level across the board, as it’s holding back progress with people purposefully not going to the next level.

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i: Restrict hitting down to lower and up to higher levels by X levels below and above players current level (suggested just 2 levels)

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ii: Restrict hitting down to lower by X levels below players current level (suggested just 2 levels)

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iii: Keep hitting up to higher levels the same (forces a higher who can be hit by lower players to progress, rather than stagnate)

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Thank you for you time to anyone who reads or votes up or down on this. Live Long & Prosper.

queen cobalt Jan 26, 2019, 7:19 PM

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The cargo limit to the North Star is absurd. It doesn't even make sense compared to the other survey ships. I'll graciously assumed this was an error and not a ripoff. But it needs to be adjusted properly.

covert ibex Jan 26, 2019, 7:53 PM

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allow to cancel warp. when drop out of warp is pressed the ship will stop at the closest system. this should be a priority.

frail sluice Jan 26, 2019, 8:43 PM

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wtb better cargo/protected cargo on northstar, doesn't need to be crazy but numbers as is now are just way to low. Low initial is perfectly fine, but investment should pay out. it's insane that a t3 rare ship has less space than a t1.

formal patrol Jan 26, 2019, 8:43 PM

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@queen cobalt It's not an error, it's not meant to be a sit and forget ship. It's a vacuum.

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@frail sluice ^

queen cobalt Jan 26, 2019, 8:43 PM

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@formal patrol its a ripoff.

frail sluice Jan 26, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Its not about being an error

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it literally cant fill its function

formal patrol Jan 26, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Sounds like yall don't understand the point of the ship

frail sluice Jan 26, 2019, 8:44 PM

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stack health and take it deep into faction space to mine g3

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bring back with speed

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no i think i get it

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problem is it doesnt do it effectively

formal patrol Jan 26, 2019, 8:45 PM

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How does it not? If you're going deep into faction space, you shouldn't have to worry about going over prot cargo

frail sluice Jan 26, 2019, 8:45 PM

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lol

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okay

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maybe not on your server

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not yet anyways

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i certainly dont mind having to check my ships more often

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im on and off all day

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but having to micro my ship ever 10 minutes for protection is silly

queen cobalt Jan 26, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Yep

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A 9k protected cargo and a 79k max cargo would have made a lot more sense

formal patrol Jan 26, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Which would make it better than any previous survey ships, which isn't the intent.

frail sluice Jan 26, 2019, 8:49 PM

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even with its decreased travel time, sending an equally upgraded envoy or horizon will be better unless you manage to somehow go undetected. I'm not say the design of the ship is bad. Im not asking for comparable cargo

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20 to 25k cargo on a 6 to 8k protected feels worth

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2 or 3k protected on 5 to 6 cargo does not

formal patrol Jan 26, 2019, 8:50 PM

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Idk, my alliance lead has a Horizon that I believe is at T3 or T4, and his NS is T7. He takes the NS over Horizon for G3 cause he says it's much faster

frail sluice Jan 26, 2019, 8:51 PM

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with the right setup its more resources

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no doubt

queen cobalt Jan 26, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Hell, the ship is physically bigger so the cargo makes zero sense. Maybe a low protected cargo but the low max makes zero sense

frail sluice Jan 26, 2019, 8:51 PM

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whats more resource if you can hold it

formal patrol Jan 26, 2019, 8:51 PM

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@queen cobalt I mean if you want to go for logic..... The increased mining speed and decreased traveling time was achieved by using the cargo space for engine and mining laser modifications

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There's an explanation 🤷

frail sluice Jan 26, 2019, 8:53 PM

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i see your point, it a specialty ship with a unique function, sadly i don't think your willing to consider mine

formal patrol Jan 26, 2019, 8:54 PM

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I have considered it, but I don't agree with it. Increasing it's protected cap/total cap would decrease the worth of building the next survey ship (being Horizon). NS fills a gap in between Envoy and Horizon

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You can choose to build it or not, it really depends on your playstyle, server, base location, etc.

frail sluice Jan 26, 2019, 8:55 PM

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you just argued that its works outside of the capacity

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specifically that its job is to be an efficient g3 resource miner.

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Thats totally fine.

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because its better at mining g3 it should essentially have no have literally 30 minutes of protection value compared to hours of counterparts.

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I can't see. The concept of investing so much into this ship verse other only to have your investment consistently paid out to others is bad design

formal patrol Jan 26, 2019, 8:59 PM

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It's meant for an active player, not a sit and forget. You throw it out for half an hour or w/e, and recall and resend. IF you're active with it, it's much more efficient

frail sluice Jan 26, 2019, 9:00 PM

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So i guess im just SoL since while I was watching netflix last night I was hit 4 of the 5 times i was over my protection. Which happens in less than 20 minutes..

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I was actively in the game, chatting and using other ships

formal patrol Jan 26, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Try increasing it's warp range via upgrades and scotty and see if you can find a better place to mine 🤷

frail sluice Jan 26, 2019, 9:03 PM

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its deflection of the problem though, warp range of this class is matched by its counterparts and warships. So you can't outrange them. The only thing you can hope to do is stay ahead of the curve, which as i've described is already passed.

pallid hatch Jan 26, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Today we had yet another person leave the game, citing a toxic atmosphere of bullying. I have had other people tell me that the game atmosphere resembles more Lord of the Flies than Star Trek. This is so sad.

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So many players are telling me they question why they play the game.. I have a feeling they will soon be quitting. The unrelenting PVP makes the game almost unplayable for anyone who is not a hard core pvper

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This game really needs a PVP toggle.. so the non-pvpers can choose to play differently, or safe-zones that are non-pvp areas

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I will personally admit that this game is a source of drama and stress for me

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Our miners keep getting killed

graceful merlin Jan 26, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Has anyone ever had their shield expire early and you did not attack anyone?

pallid hatch Jan 26, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Yes, some of our members have had shields expire early

formal moon Jan 27, 2019, 1:02 AM

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lmao this whole room is just "wha! PVP is mean!"

supple bluff Jan 27, 2019, 4:45 AM

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NOT HAPPY @potent cipher .

In the past, when a mission showed Unknown Objectives, Support would complete them for players. Now they are refusing to. They offer inane suggestions that we all know do NOT clear the Unknown Objective status, such as clearing the game cache and resetting localizations. Unknown Objectives is a GAME BUG ... why won't you fix them?

📎 Unknown_Objective_-_Forging_Bonds.jpg

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📎 Unknown_Objective_-_Delegation.jpg

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📎 Unknown_Objective_-_Special_Delivery.jpg

formal patrol Jan 27, 2019, 5:22 AM

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Only time I've seen "unknown objective" is when I've quickly spam-clicked my quests while being on shitty internet. Usually waiting a bit before I click the next one fixes it, or clicking "Locate"

thorny ridge Jan 27, 2019, 6:03 AM

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It’s common as buggery and yes support used to auto complete them , I sent them one and they said I need to kill a ship , I click locate the ship is out of bounds and can’t be locked on too , they said it’s not there issue the ships out of bounds it’s a design flaw , so I asked will you auto complete , nope you need to work out how to lock onto it your self , like seriously WTF

keen meadow Jan 27, 2019, 9:31 AM

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Had my combat missions reset to 0 in the update. Had killed 8 of the 10 lvl 32. Now back to zero. Sent in a ticket. Sorry only manually completing mining missions. Good on you Scopley. Ripping ppl off again.

burnt summit Jan 27, 2019, 9:52 AM

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Anyone know where the Romulan “forging bonds” mission is？

hushed swift Jan 27, 2019, 9:54 AM

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@burnt summit

burnt summit Jan 27, 2019, 10:10 AM

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Thanks

kindred shuttle Jan 27, 2019, 10:48 AM

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Anyone know where the conspiracy mission is

shadow barn Jan 27, 2019, 12:43 PM

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*** important ***
The ability would be nice, that you could not be able to get attacked by a player 1000000000000x stronger than you. Please reconsider your restrictions and the whole freaking system of who can attack who or what. This current system is just plain unfair and unbalanced as hell. why why why?

fathom grove Jan 27, 2019, 2:16 PM

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On our server we had one player how is raiding a complete Sektor alone. Because nobody can do anything against him.

carmine jay Jan 27, 2019, 2:20 PM

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What power is he? And ship power?

median sphinx Jan 27, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Things are getting out of control. Today I watched a level 28 player quit. We have a huge problem on my server. The 10 strongest players formed a super alliance. They're up to over 70 players in this alliance. Their main goal is to raid bases, take billions in resources. They raid bases for several hours a day and hit every miner and ship they see. Their goal is to get everyone to quit on the server. Players should be restricted on what levels they hit. Resources shouldn't be wiped out so easily. I get it, these guys pay a ton of money but players like this need to be thrown out completely because they just want to ruin Scopely and make the game a horrible experience.

inner plaza Jan 27, 2019, 2:52 PM

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you can just use a shield then

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there are games where you can completely destroy players and their investment is completely gone

median sphinx Jan 27, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Most people are out of shields

inner plaza Jan 27, 2019, 2:53 PM

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at least something like this is not possible in this game

median sphinx Jan 27, 2019, 2:53 PM

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It is

inner plaza Jan 27, 2019, 2:54 PM

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all yuo can lose is parts of your ressources

median sphinx Jan 27, 2019, 2:55 PM

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I watched a base with north stars over 250k clean out billions of resources in minutes

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This goes on all day long

nova sierra Jan 27, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Northstar Cant do that

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Top small cargo

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And those players are in a Sense creating their own graveyard, not smart

inner plaza Jan 27, 2019, 2:56 PM

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shit happens... but it's not abotu the game, its about people not using shields. and you do get enough shields on a daily basis

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and about having billions of ressources ...

median sphinx Jan 27, 2019, 2:57 PM

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When you have 30 players hitting a base, it happens

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I'll take some screenshots

nova sierra Jan 27, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Even then, only 6k cargo. Horizon and faction miners are more effectieve And probably used to do it

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As i said, they ll create graveyard of their own to rule and wither in

median sphinx Jan 27, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Lol, when they have everyone's resources, repair costs aren't an issue

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I'm sure they're only doing it to rub it in people's faces that they can't complete the north star event and told the entire server the only way they're going to get it, is if they buy it

nova sierra Jan 27, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Sounds like very friendly People

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Who Will be alone in An empty Galaxy if they continue

median sphinx Jan 27, 2019, 3:06 PM

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📎 Screenshot_20190127-100611_Star_Trek_Fleet_Command.jpg

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This group has only been around for a week

nova sierra Jan 27, 2019, 3:12 PM

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What u could do is, huddle up with everyone Else in systems, and Deny spots for BASE spawn

median sphinx Jan 27, 2019, 3:13 PM

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We did that, they threatened people and beat them until they moved their bases

nova sierra Jan 27, 2019, 3:14 PM

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How so?

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Aside from constantly killing miners, they Cant do a thing

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Keyboard warriors arent a threat

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And killing miners gets tzdious...

median sphinx Jan 27, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Miner hits. Parking their strongest ships in the system and hitting people trying to get ships back to their bases

nova sierra Jan 27, 2019, 3:15 PM

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They got way too much time

median sphinx Jan 27, 2019, 3:15 PM

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They do

nova sierra Jan 27, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Generally attention span of those kind of morons is low. Ignore, stall and keep up, they ll stop soon enough

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Everyone Else would need to work togethzr

median sphinx Jan 27, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Or everyone can quit playing because their patience is running out

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Im just providing the feedback

nova sierra Jan 27, 2019, 3:17 PM

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True, nut as i said, they ll have created their own personal graveyard and hell

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No fun being in a dead server

tepid dagger Jan 27, 2019, 5:29 PM

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Unfortunately that server will be merged with another server at some point and they will do the same thing again

pallid hatch Jan 27, 2019, 7:35 PM

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It is a good song

crude forge Jan 27, 2019, 7:40 PM

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If your server is dying they will open it again to new players. Ours recently opened back up. It could be based of lvl progression as well but i honestly think it more about which serves are making the least profit lol

tardy vortex Jan 27, 2019, 9:30 PM

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The rate of uncommon resource drop is so low to make the whole game a turn off. Combined with the inability to upgrade common to uncommon resource, it makes it really hard to progress through the game

inner plaza Jan 27, 2019, 9:59 PM

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what about reading the ToS?

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and then realizing that being an asshole is not against it

digital kiln Jan 28, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Hmm ok.

livid dove Jan 28, 2019, 12:24 AM

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Yes they foster this environment. I’ve reported, with screenshots, grossly racist and violent messages from trolls. Crickets. “We will address the issue, your concerns matter” and whatever else is in their copy paste list etc.

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These people are still playing the game.

jaunty bay Jan 28, 2019, 12:31 AM

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i hear ya, a lot of peeps become OP with the buy in, the game is so severely unbalanced, that some can easily take a player 4 levels above them if that player is F2P, its insane. yet as a F2P i have looked at others equal to my level and only 1 level above me, and the power rating is more than double or even triple in same cases. yet i can't hold an ore mine for more than 30 seconds because they are all hogged up by upper level or OP players zone killing or just bouncing any one else out. never mind that it is only a L14 zone, the L19 just take over. and i dont even know how a L9 got up into the faction zones that i can only peek at using scotty to boost warp distance.
tactics are little more than make your ship power greater than the target.

naive garden Jan 28, 2019, 12:38 AM

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its like youve never played a game on the internet

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if you cant self ignore your just sheltered

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life is worse then the internet

livid dove Jan 28, 2019, 12:53 AM

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I disagree, I am not sheltered, and I will say the offending party apologized. However, in my many years of life, I have never firsthand witnessed a person threatened with lynching not have I ever witnessed firsthand racial discrimination and I live in the south lol. The internet brings out the worst in people.

naive garden Jan 28, 2019, 12:56 AM

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um...duh

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internet=trolls

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this game brought in trek fans

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its not for most of them

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well said but has nothing to do with with this game

sick moon Jan 28, 2019, 12:58 AM

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😬

naive garden Jan 28, 2019, 12:58 AM

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lmao

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have you played lords?

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to lvl 25?

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this game is pussy shit compared to lords

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in internet gaming everyone starts as the same

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then its just money and retardeness

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smarter to stay above that shit

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gottta accept money buys your miserable life

livid dove Jan 28, 2019, 1:12 AM

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Now that is a fair point @naive garden

naive garden Jan 28, 2019, 1:29 AM

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gottta accept it, its how it is

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deny all ya want

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still circles back

crisp blaze Jan 28, 2019, 8:47 AM

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Where did general discussion go

hushed swift Jan 28, 2019, 8:52 AM

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Its there

crisp blaze Jan 28, 2019, 9:07 AM

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Which one should I research first, piercing shots or shield penetration

wicked jetty Jan 28, 2019, 9:17 AM

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one is for all ships and one is just for explorers if i recall, so probably the general one first

crisp blaze Jan 28, 2019, 10:03 AM

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Mmmm

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I've no idea which is which so I did IP dip dog shit and shield penetration is 15hrs away.

pallid hatch Jan 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/522874822838190080/539499665880645632/20190128_093513.jpg

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4m Dilithium !?!?!?! Really?????

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Well, what ya do is raid some bases with dilith.

inner plaza Jan 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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lmao. for 5k rep 😂

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you might aswell just kill a couple of ships

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and keep your 5m d

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Yeah, 5k probably isn't worth it unless you are flush with dilith.

mint jasper Jan 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Or, you know, do what Scopely wants you to do and buy it all

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Well, with dilith you can take a lot from stations.

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Just find pack buyers and break base during the night

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I've unloaded 20m that way

carmine jay Jan 28, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Sure, but the point is that 4M dil for what is 30 mins of faction farming is fckin ridiculous, no?

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Yes

rare roost Jan 28, 2019, 7:14 PM

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@nova sierra @carmine jay @mint jasper having completed some of the lower tier versions of this type of quest they seem to give a massive chunk of another resource to compensate for your investment.

We just can't see it because of the utterly stupid display that says +2 instead of the actual reward.

I donated 250,000 trit to one of these quests and received 2m parsteel in return as a reward.

mint jasper Jan 28, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Ah, even then, a dilithium trade-off like that isn't worth

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Yeah, that is true. Both are valuable in their own right. For those of you who haven't leveled past 23. Parsteel is required in bunches

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I've raided around 50m partsteel and 50m trit

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17m dilith all together

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I've needed every drop

rare roost Jan 28, 2019, 7:15 PM

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well if you have too much dil and not enought trit @mint jasper

(What am I saying, you can never have enough dil) lol

carmine jay Jan 28, 2019, 7:15 PM

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Oooh, well thats not so bad if u get a chunk of something back, but DIL is one of the rarest. Im overflowing in trit , zero on steel and medium on dil

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 7:15 PM

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Trit = Useless green stuff

carmine jay Jan 28, 2019, 7:15 PM

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Yeah, DIL OWNS

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 7:15 PM

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Parsteel and Dilith trade in value

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I just 40m parsteel.

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just spent*

rare roost Jan 28, 2019, 7:16 PM

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They really REALLY need to fix the quest reward display, I dont know who's in charge of their UI and UX but they need to get sacked

carmine jay Jan 28, 2019, 7:16 PM

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What level are you epictetus?

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Going on 27.

carmine jay Jan 28, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Right yeah, im 28, steel starvation is real

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Yep, I try to get as much as I can from base busting.

carmine jay Jan 28, 2019, 7:18 PM

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I used to ignore bases with steel thinking its junk. But now i know, lol

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 7:18 PM

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You get at least one guy a week who doesn't shield and has 30-40m par

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I don't care if it takes 15-20m to get through ships and his base if it has enough par

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lol

carmine jay Jan 28, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Yeah, so true

rare roost Jan 28, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Who would have thought par-steel would be hard to come by

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Its cheap at lower levels then comes at a premium later.

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Also enjoy upgrading buildings with uncommon

rare roost Jan 28, 2019, 7:23 PM

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You know whats really, really odd @nova sierra .

Since I went free to play I dont have any issues with missing rss, the timers delay you enought to farm everything you need,

carmine jay Jan 28, 2019, 7:23 PM

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Every building needs uncommon at 28

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Even the 🚽

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Yeah, that is why I am investing more into officer cards and ships

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I've seen a transition once players get that 4th dock

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Officer Packs > Ship Packs > Station Packs > Research Packs

carmine jay Jan 28, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Well i did my officer earler as i needed faction credits for miner, but yeah, still depends what u need at the time I spose

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We neeeeeeeed uncommon packs. Scopely execs could buy another boat if they released them tomorrow. No other stuff, just idk, 250+ ultra pack. Boom

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Yeah, don't even give me lat

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Just send me 300 uncommon each

carmine jay Jan 28, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Agreed

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Yep

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We raiders need nothing else

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Then I could get kehra to next tier and get her to 160kish

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For now I just made my NS 200k lmao

carmine jay Jan 28, 2019, 7:28 PM

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Whats your power raided at? Approx?

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 7:28 PM

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put kirk/nero crew on it depending on what I am doing.

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Resources raided is 120m

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Power I haven't focused on.

carmine jay Jan 28, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Sry i mean, resources, im around 180

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Yeah, our top guy has raided 600m

carmine jay Jan 28, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Ours is like 400

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 7:29 PM

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I am 4th overall.

carmine jay Jan 28, 2019, 7:29 PM

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2nd 👍

nova sierra Jan 28, 2019, 7:30 PM

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I slacked on getting the horizon aka Lootba

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Game changer that one. Especially with Stonn

carmine jay Jan 28, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Yeah, i fell behind a few weeks while farming for Kvort. Made 160M last week since i got it

mint jasper Jan 28, 2019, 7:36 PM

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Romulan quest CLEANUP not detecting kills on level 20 ships as quest progression.

weary linden Jan 28, 2019, 8:53 PM

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The quest description is wrong.

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@mint jasper go to your quest log and hit attack or locate (which ever it is) it will send you to a system Juenaiai (or something). You have to kill the ships inside that system

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Which sucks cause they are all room ships

timid briar Jan 28, 2019, 9:51 PM

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bronze basin Jan 28, 2019, 10:59 PM

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So...why even bother listing this upgrade as available at ops 19?

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keen ledge Jan 28, 2019, 11:12 PM

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LOL 4* & more than half a M dilithium

inner plaza Jan 28, 2019, 11:20 PM

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there are 2 other prime researches available at 19 which requre 250 4* mats + 1.5m Delithium

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if they would offer 4* mats in shop i would understand

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but like that..?!

wicked jetty Jan 28, 2019, 11:25 PM

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Because theoretically the pack should appear in the shop for you to purchase @bronze basin

wheat oak Jan 28, 2019, 11:29 PM

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packs will appear but you have to buy any 100% research packs which are already there

bronze basin Jan 28, 2019, 11:29 PM

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Lol ok

gentle rune Jan 29, 2019, 12:59 PM

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Hello @nova sierra , what's the connection between the horizon and Stonn since most of mining crew bonuses don't work yet? I guess you rather refer Stonn raw attributes, right?( in the perspective of raiding?). Thank you for your answer.

nova sierra Jan 29, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Stonn has pack rat ability. So he starts out boosting cargo by 20%

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His abilities work just fine.

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With regard to raiding it is helpful just because you can pull more. He doesn't have any effective attack/defense abilities.

gentle rune Jan 29, 2019, 1:12 PM

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@nova sierra , if you refer to his ability to boost ore mining by 20%, are you sure that it works? As for me, I made some tests with his mates 3 days ago (T'Pring and Barot respectively for +20% in gaz mining and +20% in crystal mining). I took my chronometer and started mining respectively gaz and crystal with them and without them. The results were always the same. Gaz mining rate (with or without T'pring as captain) is always the same. Crystal mining rate (with or without Barot as captain) is always the same.

nova sierra Jan 29, 2019, 1:15 PM

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The pack rate definitely works because I've seen the cargo in crease and decrease when swaped out. Now that doesn't mean other officer abilities are working properly

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captain skills don't work but some officer ones do

gentle rune Jan 29, 2019, 1:19 PM

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If you refer to the figures that the game display, I agree with you ( mining rate display changes when you take one of this guys and when you remove it as captain), but the problem is that these mining rates displayed on your screen are wrong. I'm 100 % sure about that because, as I told you, I made some tests a few days ago with my chronometer

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I 've got my paperboard with me and I can give you the results of my tests. For instance, the mining rate of the horizon for the gaz is around 2930 per hour . The result is still 2930 per hour even if T'pring becomes the captain of this horizon

nova sierra Jan 29, 2019, 1:24 PM

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That could very well be with regard to that and since you've tested it I'm inclined to believe it. However, the cargo capacity is pretty verifiable and I can see when raiding bases it offloads at the amount I pulled. Also, we've seen success with triggered abilities on Nero and Kirk as well.

gentle rune Jan 29, 2019, 1:24 PM

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I've conducted the same tests with Barot and crystal mining

nova sierra Jan 29, 2019, 1:24 PM

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So it is probably hit and miss.

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That would also explain why it shows exhausted on a mine but it actually isn't.

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When the officer ability isn't properly coordinating with server.

gentle rune Jan 29, 2019, 1:27 PM

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About Kirk ( and his "moral" ability) and Nero ( and his "burning" ability), are we sure that they properly work? If so, that would be a good point. I'm still using Chen and her crew for my most powerful ship

nova sierra Jan 29, 2019, 1:34 PM

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Yeah, because we've been testing crews against PVP and PVE with higher stats

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We've seen ships (outside the combat triangle) punch up a weight class with nero and kirk crews.

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PVE, for example, I am able to hit a 300k ship with a 200k ship

gentle rune Jan 29, 2019, 1:37 PM

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Okay, thank you for the information. Who do you use in combination with Nero as captain to optimize him? And who do you use with Kirk as captain? Thank you for the answer

nova sierra Jan 29, 2019, 1:38 PM

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Also we can see the damage dealt increased or defensive stats enhanced in battle logs.

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With Nero I use his crew that abilities triggered by "burning abilities. Their defensive/offensive stats are lower but I supplement that with a standard crew.

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Also make sure to pair him with complimenting officers. However, for the most part every faction epic/rare cards coordinate well with each other.

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Kirk I compliment him with spock and an uncommon officer who doesn't have a triggered ability. But his stats go up a lot with kirk Morale. Once I get another rare card leveled I'll swap it out.

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We are seeing that in PVP head-to-heads that the biggest mistake players are making are pushing their stations too fast and losing focus on officers/ships or focusing on ships with standard officer setups.

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I'm actually sort-of behind on officer packs. We have some guys who have leveled nero/kirk several times which nearly guarantees their abilities are used and nothing is left to chance.

gentle rune Jan 29, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Thank you for these informations. When I used kirk, I paired him with Spock(rare) and with Hikaru Sulu(uncommon). Hikaru sulu (as Lieutenant) boost the "energetic' damages by + 20% when the ship has got "moral"

nova sierra Jan 29, 2019, 1:49 PM

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I have kirk with Akrady Ivanov and Rare spock.

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Though it isn't as ideal as my nero setup.

gentle rune Jan 29, 2019, 1:52 PM

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Well, if you're 100% exact (and I'm sure you are) about the fact that their abilities as captain work (both for Nero and Kirk), I'm going to reconsider my crew assignment in my most powerful ships

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I've used Chen and her crew (so far) and it has been very effective

hasty plover Jan 29, 2019, 1:54 PM

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@nova sierra The parsteel, tritanium, and dilithium generation, warehousing and vaulting on the stations are a big problem for players.

When I'm required to expend millions of resources to upgrade a warehouse or vault that only holds a miniscule fraction of those resources the system is broken and robbing us.

Recommend decoupling the dilition, parsteel, dilithium components from base upgrades, or allowing those components to generate and house more than the resource counts required to upgrade them.

Current outcome. Many high level players are preying on low level players because there is no way to mine the requisite resources without spending months to do it. Low level players are miserable and considering other games.

gentle rune Jan 29, 2019, 1:55 PM

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As for my kehra, since I 've mostly used it against battleships, I've successfully used the klingon patriots crew (M'ral, Woteln and Koth)

nova sierra Jan 29, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Yeah I finally have a good setup for klingon patriots but haven't used them properly. I want to see their abilities with hull breach.

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The way I tested the kirk/nero was doing the hostile captain challenge and swapping crew out.

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@hasty plover Yeah everyone thinks the protection amount is hilarious.

tame hinge Jan 29, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Mining dilithium isn't worth it. Farm battleships instead. Otherwise i have never han an issue to this point. Spent 0.0 and have almost maxed out all buildings at 18 so i can pop 19.

pure walrus Jan 29, 2019, 3:34 PM

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@tame hinge 19 is a paywall. I'm half through it and spend roughly 4 mio parsteel and the other ress corresponding.

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Not willing to pay to Play though. Thus it'll Take time.

tame hinge Jan 29, 2019, 3:40 PM

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Same here. Wont drop any $ on the game till i think its justified and right now i just feel like the game is too close to a blatant cash grab. The north staf being full earnable in game was a good step. Was the Jelly earnable without the purchase? Things need to be fully earnable in game with time (sped up with micros) or paywalled completely. Not this half and half vibe they have going on.

pure walrus Jan 29, 2019, 3:44 PM

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Imho it wasn't. I think you could have earned 55/70 shards.

pallid peak Jan 29, 2019, 3:44 PM

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I agree 💯, all items need to be attainable for free with a decent amount of effort and time but available sooner as a purchase. Well said 👍🏿

pure walrus Jan 29, 2019, 3:51 PM

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Plus i think Scopely should limit what can be bought at a certain level. There seem to be Lvl 18 players running around with a propably maxed 250k North Star preying in the week. They don't even need to repair after base raiding Lvl 15 players.

pallid peak Jan 29, 2019, 3:55 PM

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I mean the game stays alive based on the paying players. It is frustrating that someone that bought the northstar and is 5 levels lower than me now has a ship more powerful than all of mine. But I understand that is how it has to work and am fine with it

nova sierra Jan 29, 2019, 4:01 PM

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Regardless, leveling walls will start around 28.

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Which means they'll need to balance the game.

pure walrus Jan 29, 2019, 4:09 PM

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@pallid peak Well there are certain games offering rare bonus "ships" for cash a Bit early. But a lvl 1 player can't buy a rare regularly available at level 30, a lvl 25 can. That's what i meant. They did it with the Jelly the other way around.

pallid peak Jan 29, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Yeah I heard it was only supposed to be available to level 18 plus but not sure about that

gritty shoal Jan 29, 2019, 4:44 PM

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@pallid peak They already need to balance the game.. When you have level 19 people with 150k power "miners" that are more powerful than any of the warships available to that point you know you have a significant imbalance

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I realize people had to pay somewhere in the vicinity of $150 to get it there, but sheesh, balance it some or don't call it a miner

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Call it what it is.. A base breaker

pallid peak Jan 29, 2019, 4:47 PM

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I think it is more like $300 but yeah

nova sierra Jan 29, 2019, 5:41 PM

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The NS has replaced my explorer for now.

rare roost Jan 29, 2019, 6:16 PM

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@gritty shoal this is a pay to win game, any balance would hurt their profits.

nova sierra Jan 29, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Well, that isn't actually. It just takes a lot of work and talent to offer balance and money incentives.

vocal blaze Jan 29, 2019, 7:20 PM

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The server merger was a bad idea... it over crowded the tell I was in so I uninstalled the game, and games where you have to pay to get anywhere is bull Shit. GL everyone... your going to need it....

heady mortar Jan 29, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Being able to generate uncommon and rare resources would be a nice!!! Generating 50 or in the few months I’ve been playing sux. Can’t upgrade anything to compete against other people. Would it be better to delete the game?

dusty violet Jan 29, 2019, 10:23 PM

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@vocal blaze Your server was merged?

nova sierra Jan 29, 2019, 10:59 PM

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@nova sierra uncommon g3 mats are too slow coming at later levels. I need 3,150 uncommon g3 ore to upgrade just one of my ships and 650 uncommon g3 ore to upgrade my operations. On average I get 3 a day. So it sounds like I won’t advance my operations for ~ 217 days and then I’ll need to wait 1,050 days to upgrade that one ship. Is it your vision that we stay stagnant for 3 years at higher level? Do you have a vision?

upper cairn Jan 29, 2019, 11:09 PM

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lol, their vision was thousands of players paying $000's and $000's, etc etc

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As I tried telling their support, gives players a reasonable chance to progress through effort, and pay to speed things up, NOT for paying as the sole propect of advancing at higher levels

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But they ignored me

nova sierra Jan 29, 2019, 11:19 PM

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Yeah, there is no speed up to resource gain at higher levels. Advancing only makes the game more expensive (repairs, upgrades, etc) not more convenient.

carmine jay Jan 29, 2019, 11:20 PM

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Completely agree @nova sierra and i know from speaking to you, its not even as if you are ops 20 and get nothing.. you are ops 31 right? Getting 3 per day at ops 31 is unacceptable in my mind.

nova sierra Jan 29, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Yes ops 31 and refinery 31

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Some days I get 0

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Most days I get 0

carmine jay Jan 29, 2019, 11:23 PM

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Im 28, same problem, but worse. If ifs possible to get worse than 0 😬

nova sierra Jan 29, 2019, 11:23 PM

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Yeah, and this is with refining batches of 75k

carmine jay Jan 29, 2019, 11:23 PM

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Idk, game has issues but i have faith that all are being addressed apart from this one.

nova sierra Jan 29, 2019, 11:23 PM

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Mass amounts of common (garbage)

carmine jay Jan 29, 2019, 11:23 PM

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75k batches too! Omg.

rare roost Jan 30, 2019, 12:06 AM

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@upper cairn of course they ignored you, your method makes less money but makes an enjoyable player experience, they don't care about ppl having an enjoyable player experience, this is scopely were talking about.

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@nova sierra @carmine jay what's keeping you playing the game? Besides wanting to avoid the negative feeling of being cheated out of your already invested cash if you left today.

nova sierra Jan 30, 2019, 8:45 AM

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@nova sierra @potent cipher better value needed in packs, and when there are special offers available they should be a bit better than 35 extra survey parts (lv34 North Star Legendary Upgrade Pack vs Ship Power Ultra pack)

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twilit slate Jan 30, 2019, 9:08 AM

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Lat 7500, mine shows 6500

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Also more rare and trit than mine

carmine jay Jan 30, 2019, 9:11 AM

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You get more lat and slightly more stuff im some areas every 3 levels. At 24,27,30 etc

nova sierra Jan 30, 2019, 9:15 AM

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i thought it was every 5 levels, I'm a week or two off 35 so will update then

carmine jay Jan 30, 2019, 9:22 AM

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Hey @rare roost whats keep me playing? Ive played loads of mobile games, its pretty much all i do in my downtime / between projects. And honestly I have never felt “cheated” by any game, expect Star Wars GoH at launch for which I got a full refund.

Why stick this out? Because 95% of the content is excellent; the pve, pvp, crew stuff, alliance mates. Yes there are 5% of issues, but it mostly affects all of us (mining boosts) so it keeps it a level playing field . Having spent hundreds of hours on this game, i can tell you that the only issue I see and do not see any reasonable outcome for are the 3* uncommon rates.

Even that wont stop me playing, I have plenty of resources (over 200M) to build and research stuff, but I am not buying packs full of stuff i don’t need to upgrade ships that require 8 ultra packs for one upgrade. So I am effectively free to play now 😬

Not my loss, but scopely are losing out on a lot of revenue from me and people like me by not offering better value for 3* uncommon or making the investment we have already made pay off with refining - so others do the same.

Case in point, if I had know the refining rates were so poor, i would not have bothered going to 28 and would probably have stayed around 23. And knowing the rates are still rubbish at 31 means I’m not spending to get there either.

So i love the game, despite its faults, but 3* uncommon has stopped my progress and at some point, i will just get bored and move on.

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Its definitely 3 in the 20s @nova sierra . Could be 5 in the 30s.. might be a while till u hit 36 to let us know!

nova sierra Jan 30, 2019, 9:27 AM

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yeah 33 to 34 was pretty grim,. 34 to 35 not so bad, I'm expecting 35 to 36 to be an absolute chore

tough beacon Jan 30, 2019, 10:29 AM

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I am level 25.... I am with Picard and Mono... I would actually spend more money if the packs and what they give you made more sense. G3 uncommon refine rates are too low. Why do I get g2 material in my packs at level 25? Stop using fillers and discount the packs or put more content of materials we need such as Trit , ship XP, steel, lat....etc

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I can’t even imagine the amounts of materials needed at level 30+. I don’t think I will get there unless either the refining dynamics change or the value of the packs change.

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Incidentally I started this game in December 18. I am willing to spend money on a game if I like it, just making hard to justify the investment.

upper cairn Jan 30, 2019, 10:37 AM

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Well, when your base resource capacity is below upgrade costs, there is a problem

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Its pay or plunder

shadow heron Jan 30, 2019, 10:52 AM

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This game is so toxic and such a cash grab that’s full of game breaking bugs. Iv had all the money I have spent on this game refunded (over $300) I really suggest you all try and do the same.

fathom grove Jan 30, 2019, 11:12 AM

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But why did you spend 300 dollar in a mobile game?

cloud torrent Jan 30, 2019, 11:50 AM

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@carmine jay I totally relate to u, I'm 29, spent a lot but it's not worth anymore so I stop buying packs at 28 and I won't buy any more.

Eventually I'll get bored too and just uninstall.

Did any of u suffer a server merge? Because my server is very quiet right now...

fathom grove Jan 30, 2019, 12:24 PM

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@cloud torrent then delete the game and never come back

eternal tartan Jan 30, 2019, 12:36 PM

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What is the correct way to get a refund for the NS on the basis of false advertisement (bonus(es) not working), without getting banned? Should I write a ticket first etc?
I dont care if the ship is taken off my account and its ress gone if I can get my 20€ back.

fathom grove Jan 30, 2019, 12:55 PM

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Use the refund function at the App Store

winged glen Jan 30, 2019, 1:17 PM

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not cool, even because you are on the same server

fathom grove Jan 30, 2019, 1:17 PM

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Meinst du mich?

winged glen Jan 30, 2019, 1:20 PM

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Ja, wir brauchen die Leute noch auf dem Server. Ich will nicht nur mit dir spielen 😃

fathom grove Jan 30, 2019, 1:20 PM

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Was hat das mit dem refund zu tun?

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In 3 Monaten ist Ende

winged glen Jan 30, 2019, 1:20 PM

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Woher willst du das wissen?

fathom grove Jan 30, 2019, 1:21 PM

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Wenn ich die drop rate unser ally member sehe

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Und hast du mal die anderen Channel gelesen? Stufe 3 ressi dropped Vlt 3 am Tag

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Brauchst aber hunderte fuer die Upgrades

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Das werden die feierabendspieler nicht lange mitmachen

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Wenn du dann noch regelmäßig von gewissen Level 26er gerändert wirst ohne das du was machen kannst ....

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Da bleibt halt nicht viel übrig erfahrungsgemäß

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Wir können ja nen Pott eröffnen 😁

winged glen Jan 30, 2019, 1:27 PM

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Ja, das aufhören von Leuten und dauerhafte gefarme ist ein Problem. Ich bin nun 20 geworden und finde keine Ziele zum raiden. Alles leer. Keiner hat ressourcen zum klauen oder sie sind zu hochlvlig

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Ich hoffe auf den Miningbonus das der die Ausbeute bei allen erhöht

fathom grove Jan 30, 2019, 1:30 PM

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Oder es lohnt sich nicht. Zumal die ressi die ich Radien kann mir nicht fehlen

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Die ungewöhnlichen sind das Problem. Nicht stahl usw.

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Aber auch sonst hat das Spiel kaum Inhalt. Von daher tippe ich auf 3 Monate

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Dann wird unser Server relativ tot sein

eternal tartan Jan 30, 2019, 1:37 PM

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@fathom grove I would love to but I heard they will ban people who refunded packs

fathom grove Jan 30, 2019, 1:39 PM

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I dont know about that. But then you didn’t want play anymore. Take the refund 😁

eternal tartan Jan 30, 2019, 1:45 PM

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Haha yeah but I do like the game, hence why I want a refund to not keep this bad experience in mind

cloud torrent Jan 30, 2019, 1:51 PM

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You can start drama in chat channels and be toxic to the rest of players, that is the accomplishment for most people here

rare roost Jan 30, 2019, 2:40 PM

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@eternal tartan request a refund from the host store, google play for example.

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not scopely directly, they wont care.

fathom grove Jan 30, 2019, 3:12 PM

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But he said that they will ban accounts how use a refund

nova sierra Jan 30, 2019, 5:01 PM

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Hey. I don't know if this was already discussed here. But in my opinion Northstar and horizont are way overpowered - to level up khera it takes ages. North is easy go directly from start.

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So I want to ask if other have the same feeling

nova sierra Jan 30, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Horizon is high in health but its defensive/offensive stats are low and with the right crew interceptor/battleship/explorer can destroy it pretty effectively even if shield/hull are higher. NS is arguably similar, but it was just easier to upgrade and I agree it acts as a explorer and is arguably over powered relative to monetary investment.

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But, then again, that isn't bad for players either.

deft gazelle Jan 30, 2019, 8:39 PM

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I too got nailed by the packs saying one thing, but not containing a damned thing useful. I got bounced around for over a week by tech support, and their ultimate answer was ‘the packs describe what’s inside them, if you click through’. So, in my case, it’s $200, per gun per ship to upgrade from tier 5. I’m sure the next two tiers are every bit as expensive, so to finish my Keira would be somewhere around $3,000. That’s silly. The 3* uncommon in those packs being sold at level 25 and above, need to take the drop rate of the 2*. They should contain an ample supply of 3*, not a sample. I don’t even care about 2* stuff anymore as I don’t use it. I told tech support as much, I had been spending $800 a week, but there’s nothing reasonable to buy anymore. I’m just buying maintenance packs now, to keep dilithium and Latium on hand. I’d -love- to finish my ships, but hell if I’m going to even remotely spend $3k, each to do so.

fathom grove Jan 30, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Why should they change anything if you still buying?

nova sierra Jan 30, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Yip stop buying, the packs are useless once you reach a certain tier, they really need to look at this in a more conventional and practical way, latinum should be able to buy you all materials like gems in most mmo games, the way this has been setup is to flush as much money out you as possible without you actually advancing in the game

cunning carbon Jan 30, 2019, 10:49 PM

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I've opened up a support issue and have not heard anything relevent in 48 hours and can not access my game. This is complete and total BS and has locked me out of both events and my daily progress. I definitely am refraining from buying anything more at this point and am getting close to opening a case with google because according to the play store dev policies apps need to be supported and if a dev does not support an app in a timely manner they will refund the purchases.

hasty plover Jan 31, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Fix the upgrade requirements for upgrading the parsteel, dilithium and tritanium vaults/warehouses. When it costs me 6.5 mil to upgrade a crappy vault that only holds 200k resources, that's a rip off.

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Or decouple those requirements from a base upgrade and maybe it's not so bad.

odd orbit Jan 31, 2019, 2:56 AM

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I think having mystery rewards for quests is silly...what’s the point? Why can’t I know what the reward is? Is it that important? It’s not like I’m going to choose to not complete the quest because the reward isn’t good enough. I suggest removing this and making all rewards easily viewable

hushed swift Jan 31, 2019, 2:57 AM

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@odd orbit totally agree with you on that.

odd orbit Jan 31, 2019, 2:59 AM

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I just finished the kayless quest line and have no idea what I got

hushed swift Jan 31, 2019, 3:40 AM

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Im really questioning whether those +3 things are even anything.. I have checked lots of times after missions to see nothing. Its weird

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supple bluff Jan 31, 2019, 4:33 AM

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Got the following at the end of a reply from Scopely Support …

We would like to commend you for having this made known to us and would like to encourage you to do so again in the future should you encounter something like this.

Let me know if I can help you with anything else.

Kind regards,
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vivid wigeon Jan 31, 2019, 5:23 AM

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I have considered making purchases, but then I run across bugs that make me think it's a bad idea. Like having to restart my game every few minutes to see alliance members help. I don't like the fact that when I go to click on my instant repair button and you have a Latinium button close underneath it that I sometimes press accidentally. It's very unprofessional!

nova sierra Jan 31, 2019, 6:35 AM

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We have timmers for everything else in game, and is normal for a mobile game ... For refinery ( the actual thing is holding back progress of the game there is no visible timmer on the general view /main screen ) why that's? Easier and funny for peoples to be driven nuts and buy those packs ? :-)

nova sierra Jan 31, 2019, 7:42 AM

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That's actually an game of " mining " like 98,9% of the gameplay time is intented to have ships set on mining spots and gather resources. Shall be renamed " cosmic mining corporation " or something similar :-) there are no peoples at any level who actually did all missions the game " sugested ", there is no one I've speak who do anything enjoyable in game ... Except several peoples who dropped obscene amount of $ in game, and all they do it's to search for bases/stations to attack and plunder :-) that's actually only their fun part of the game.

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Only places where you can take any ship and do some fights without extreme high costs in repairs is system 10-12 lowers ... Else all you can do in game meaning you consume resources each and every click.

tawdry musk Jan 31, 2019, 7:53 AM

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Might have been asked before but why can’t u have speeds ups for the refinery? Drives people nuts !!!!

nova sierra Jan 31, 2019, 8:55 AM

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Because refined materials are put for sale on game not intended for peoples to earn by playing

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They give refined materials at very slow rate just to make peoples who wanna advance the game to spend money

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You have everywhere else cooldowns timers seen and notices for various stuffs, not for refinery, so peoples might just " forget " to click and check even 1-2 hours daily can delay the refinery time to be able to refine only once sometime daily ... Meaning even less 2*/3* pixels -> peoples need them to grow -> might be tempted more to buy :-)

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It's obvious a dirty tactic/design but it's working as intended :-)

tropic bison Jan 31, 2019, 9:03 AM

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Please for the love of all that is holy broadcast game shutdowns on both Galaxy Chat AND Alliance Chat. Some of us don't enjoy looking at the spam on GC!!!!

nova sierra Jan 31, 2019, 9:09 AM

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I have ignored most of retards who write in Galaxy chat on my server :-)) quiter now

tropic bison Jan 31, 2019, 9:11 AM

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Yeah but that requires a lot of effort to "ignore" all the annoying people on mine. Effort that could be spent on mining.

nova sierra Jan 31, 2019, 12:12 PM

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@nova sierra so, did you guys manage to make any headway with the pvp and clicking issues? I mean the issues that are the most important in the game

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Clicking issues?

violet blade Jan 31, 2019, 12:27 PM

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So I kept my rss below my protected limit, because we’re currently at war. Yet for some reason, my rss were stolen? Is this yet another glitch or are protected limits just not a thing anymore?

nova sierra Jan 31, 2019, 12:30 PM

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The fact that many times double-clicking, or tapping if u understand the term better, acts like singke tapping....and single tapping acts like double tapping.
For example, many times i need to escape another player, and i can't afford to tap once, hope that the "go" button isn't masked by anything in the hud, then tap that that button....so, i double tap the spot i am going to. Sometimes it works, as long as i am not somwhere in the vicinity of a base/ship/node. Many times, it just spawns the "go" button, leaving me to get killed.
The funny is when i scout a far away system for bases or rss, and i tap to move the view around....and my ship warps there!
THOSE CLICKING ISSUES @nova sierra

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So, not something I have encountered or heard too much about. What are you playing on?

nova sierra Jan 31, 2019, 1:01 PM

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Phone, tablet and bluestacks, all android...problem exists on all of them....so it's not on my end, and it's not just me, my entire alliance has this issue. But, considering the miriad of bugs your game has, it must've got burried "accidentally"
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I wasn't implying it was. However, knowing devices etc, helps to discover issues for the team.

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@nova sierra plus, seing that i was just told by one of your guys that a problem i reported is WAI, but after pressing the issue, another guy actually said that said problem exists and it is nkt WAI, it gives less creedence to your "not encountering or heard of"

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I have not encountered it myself, and it is the first time I have heard it. Now I am aware I can check with the team specifically on progress.

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Thank u

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And to make people understand why i am being less then constructive and very confrontational

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This SHIT should never happen on my money!

nova sierra Jan 31, 2019, 1:48 PM

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@nova sierra so asking some of the team.
If you can record some of this happening (ideally offscreen, not a direct grab) that would really help them see and investigate this issue.

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You can share it with me in DM - oh, DU Recorder also tracks taps.

noble ridge Jan 31, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Well boys, I'm done with Fleet Command - it's been somewhat fun and a lot of headaches. Here's what I've experienced. @nova sierra

Super slow progress for upgrading bases/research. Uncommon mats are few and far between. I get the name "uncommon", but when you have 20k common mats and no way to turn the common into uncommon, it's frustrating. Especially when the refinery gives you maybe 5 at a crack. When they're so hard to get an you're expected to dumb hundreds into just -one- ship upgrade... that's just stupid. 😃 Not even just for ship upgrades, but for building upgrades too!

Ship power is so lopsided to those who pay dollars into this "game" it's not even funny. When a guy sees a 40k Phindra that's four levels below you versus a 16k turas, it's just not right. Repair times grow exponentially and the research to "lower" that value hardly provides any benefit.

Attacking bases should be something alliances could rally to attack AND defend. It's so dull and lame when you're expected to just kamikaze your ships one at a time into a base. Anyone who has even remotely thought to build defenses can hold off the vast majority of people. The few that could still attack have dumped the tens/hundreds of dollars and could just steal everything a person has only because they gave a company some money. There should be better gauging of what resources can be stolen versus the power of the attacker. If it's completely lopsided, the person being defeated shouldn't be completely wiped of resources. I've seen it too many times.

Either way, this is my honest review and I felt like I just needed to leave one last note here. I wish everyone the best! Later!

bitter wagon Jan 31, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Also, @nova sierra, while you’re on. I’m a little upset I’ve reported someone for something that is a clear violation of the user agreement. As far as I can tell, nothing happened. Even the customer service people admitted it was a violation. I know the person spent a lot of money on the game, but rules are rules and it feels like they aren’t being enforced.

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And I know that y’all can’t comment on individual accounts. I understand that. Just feeling a little disheartened over it.

nova sierra Jan 31, 2019, 3:01 PM

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@bitter wagon Hey, could you DM me on that? But yes, your right I can't comment beyond having a second look.

@noble ridge Sorry to here your didn't enjoy - hope you will stay on the channel and come back with a future update.

simple temple Jan 31, 2019, 4:08 PM

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How is this fair

bright niche Jan 31, 2019, 4:21 PM

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It isn't... and it's ridiculous.

regal loom Jan 31, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Dang. Unfortunately not an outlier incident. Sadly points to imbalance in game mechanics.

fathom grove Jan 31, 2019, 4:22 PM

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On our server one 26er player is moving into a system and raid the hole system

wheat oak Jan 31, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Agree it's ridiculous to be able to hit 8 levels lower BUT that NS has about the same power as a maxed Fortunate

nova sierra Jan 31, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Going to Sol finally

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Had to reduce combat stats to put scotty on there though.

gritty shoal Jan 31, 2019, 5:05 PM

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@fathom grove That's nothing.. Imagine the entire servers 26+s all in the same alliance... just baby bombing away.. Because thats what we have... p2w ftw 😃

bitter wagon Jan 31, 2019, 5:31 PM

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@nova sierra have fun. There’s nothing there

nova sierra Jan 31, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Well there are 200k rep missions.

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Will require more warp though

normal depot Jan 31, 2019, 7:38 PM

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If a person misses 1 day, let's say in the beginning, which I dont think i did but perhaps. Then gets to a number like me at the end (I'll have 82).... I'm forced to miss out. Why in the world is that even done that way. I'm literally ready to throw in a few hundred dollars and now I can't even buy the ship for 20 because I have more than 70 bps... anyone see logic in this?

pseudo dagger Jan 31, 2019, 10:45 PM

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There is a total lack of envoy parts dropping. Can the rate of which these drop be increased?

inner plaza Feb 1, 2019, 12:09 AM

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i'm not sure 1.8m Delithium is worth the exchange of 1m Parsteel

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actually i'm pretty sure this is a bad trade

nova sierra Feb 1, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Music setting does not stick

languid bison Feb 1, 2019, 12:24 AM

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@inner plaza they do that to drain the resources of the completionists. Completionists will engage in bad trades to complete the quest and then in some cases, buy back in.