Bandwidth Sharing FAQs + Troubleshooting

[waxen pollen]

how many gateways does your region have?

[livid elm]

just one

perfect for such tests 😄

[waxen pollen]

then you apparently should be able to have both get SGS at the same time.

I had access to 2 a while back (Mine and the houses) and at that point the UK had 5 gateways, i could never get more than 5 gateways with SGS running at the same time. When i should of been able to of had 10 devices active

Well, accordingly to Salad, you should be able to have more than 2 devices running with SGS if you could get access to another IP

[misty furnace]

near-100% chance for users in the testing group. it's manually assigned and not gambling

[waxen pollen]

Right, but after that

[misty furnace]

after that there won't be static pay. back to $0

[waxen pollen]

yikes

[gleaming shell]

this gateway better not disappoint

i have hope for it

[gleaming shell]

yeah for some reason they have the source as ipqs for that pdf, but ive been told that Salad doesnt use ipqs to determine ip quality from what I know (the words werent from an official salad employee though)

either way i still use ipqs through my range of ip just as a rough reference

[tidal bough]

Just as bw was getting good windows decided it was a good time to update

[misty furnace]

classic

[waxen pollen]

https://search.brave.com/search?q=how+to+increase+window11+update+pause&summary=1&conversation=6c28d9905b9ab6d2210991 👍

[dusk phoenix]

seems like the new update bringed a new bug that makes librespeed not output in the file yet it does do the test (saw the usage in task manager)

both pcs that i use have this bug

and it kills the earnings too

[sick nacelle]

how do you check tht

?

[dusk phoenix]

C:\ProgramData\Salad\logs\ndm and check the latest file

[waxen pollen]

Wild take. It's not a bug, it's a feature

[dusk phoenix]

if they remove for us to see what speeds we got then its kinda a bad feature tbh

[upbeat shuttle]

I've brought up this bug with v1.9.6 and librespeed in support chat, for now just use v1.9.5

[dusk phoenix]

For now there's job on one of the machines but il downgrade the other one ig (bw one)

[robust creek]

finally i got the more profitable sgs back!

[fossil onyx]

Where to get the 1.9.5?

[dusk phoenix]

u can find it on github

[fossil onyx]

Thanks I will search

[upbeat shuttle]

Known Librespeed / no NDM results bug with v1.9.6
||Temporary fix: Go back to v1.9.5 until a hotfix update is released hopefully very soon!||
v1.9.7 has now been released, which should fix this issue, along with some other issues too - You should update if you're not currently running a job.

[gentle turtle]

sgs client woke up been dead for ages

if it starts pulling a whole gigabit il be surprised

[pulsar arrow]

e

[robust creek]

O

[robust creek]

wow salad hello

[livid elm]

this is 2000/600 fiber connection btw xd

[gleaming shell]

average libresheit

wrong image whoops

[upbeat shuttle]

why'd you send a doctor's note

[visual grail]

Oh boy trust me doctor's notes are way more worse 😭

[gentle turtle]

yeah dude i have gigabit

1000 by 1000

if im lucky libre will pump out 200 by 200

on rare occasions 250

and if its nice 300

or if librespeed is in a bad mood it will write 20 blank logs and keep running its speed test because salad is reading blank logs

wait salad new update if libre is fixed where it writes the lo fixed i take it back

i take it back

[misty furnace]

usually tosses me 100/80 on my 1000/1000 connection

[fossil onyx]

Does bw sharing works well on your side currently ?

[gentle turtle]

Yeah but i live close to their london server

So i should be expecting more

[misty furnace]

and I'm close to the atlanta server

(4ms)

[gentle turtle]

Yeah i got 6 ping to the london one

Yeah but libre is to inconsistent

Its like some days good and some days astonishingly bad

[gleaming shell]

hmm i have very strong considerations to return back to my old ISP, and i have until saturday to make a decision

my current ISP is 70 dollars per month, but every IP in the range is terrible and they collect internet usage data "for analytics and marketing purposes".

I cant get SGS client and honeygain content delivery sucks

My old ISP has an offer for a 4 year price lock at around 85 dollars per month for a gigabit plan (or 75 dollars per month for 500mbps +up to 30mbps overprovision). also comes with free installation and an actually good router

^and sgs client starts instantly and honeygain content delivery actually does something

the only downside is that its very exxpensive, even for a 500mbps plan its $5 more than the 1gbps plan on my current isp

also for whatever reason, my old isp seems to have just a very small slightly better ping to servers

idk if its worth an extra 5 dollars (500+mbps) or 15 dollars (1gbps) to return to my old ISP where it was an sgs and honeygain cd heaven, with better privacy and CS.

^however, after 4 years the price will increase to 135/month for 500mbps and 150/ month for 1gbps

that is what is skewing me off but idk if prices will change in 4 years, and theres no forced contract

or i could get a static ip for my current ISP but idk if its worth the risk, and even then i dont really like this ISP, and who knows if the static ip they give will be crap aswell

[robust creek]

Long message wow

[livid elm]

there was a saying we used to tell newcomers to salad - do not buy hardware for salad.

I think it applies for sgs as well - do not change ISP for salad/sgs @gleaming shell

you never gonna earn 70 usd monthly on sgs

let's be honest

[upbeat shuttle]

moreso maybe don't lock in for 4 years at a higher rate for Salad

[livid elm]

how is this even possible to have a 4y commitment? in europe 2y is considered long - 1y is standard, no commitment is possible though a bit pricier and installation fee applies

also - 70 bucks is expensive. is this a normal price for 1/1gbit fiber in the us?

[upbeat shuttle]

consumer protection is a funny thing in the US

[civic fern]

...85$ per month?

@robust creek god i thought that Telecom was fucking greedy

how much is that, 30€ per month? for a 1000/300 connection

[robust creek]

in europe internet is cheaper than USA

life in general is cheaper

[civic fern]

yeah, i can now really see that

[robust creek]

but usually USA peopel earns 3-4 times more than we do

[robust creek]

a pizza from supermarket in USA costs 10$

[civic fern]

💀

[robust creek]

and usa government seems a scammer because when you go to supermarket and look the prices, you don't see the taxes costs so yuo think you spend 10$ but when you go purchase you spend 13$

[civic fern]

wait, the price shown is untaxed?

holy moly

[robust creek]

YES XD

scam move

[civic fern]

imagine paying 13$ for a frozen pizza

[fossil onyx]

Is bw sharing fine with 1.9.7 ?

[frigid reef]

Ye

[waxen pollen]

It's due to Salad cheaping out and not willing to pay for an actually reliable speed testing site. Shitspeed is free for them.

[upbeat shuttle]

libreshit is unfortunately apparently the best free solution currently :(

i mean it's usually fine for most people probably

I've noticed I haven't had to retest much lately

I've got gigabit up and down and usually get anywhere from 200-900mbps in librespeed tests

[waxen pollen]

where do you find that info?

I have 5gig and would be interesting to know what it's testing as

hmmm, still displaying 1.9.6 update

[upbeat shuttle]

you don't know?

C:/ProgramData/Salad/logs/ndm

the latest file

[waxen pollen]

i didn't no, but thanks

[upbeat shuttle]

[waxen pollen]

Been a while since the device was restarted. But not bad

[upbeat shuttle]

there's more info in this big message, like how to make Salad rerun the speed test too

damn

surprised it got that high

[waxen pollen]

me too, when i've done a speed test before it's never gotten past 2.3gigs

my mins meant to be 2.5

[upbeat shuttle]

idk what the minimum to be eligible for all gateways is but I'd guess you'd be fine at like 100+mbps lol

[waxen pollen]

got 3.2 over wifi strangely though. Never got near that via ethernet cable. Though i suspect the Cat7 cable to be the issue.

Though shitspeed actually downloaded higher than what i've tested on speedtest.net or fast.com so

[upbeat shuttle]

my first guess would be a switch or port somewhere in the line only being 2.5g

iirc cat5e can handle 2.5g over a couple dozen metres, cat6a can do 10gb over 100m, so cat7 should be plenty fine

[waxen pollen]

The device is an AM5 rig, so comes with 5gig ports. Cat7 cable and one the 10G router port. Had Sky out multiple times trying to figure out why i wasn't testing over 2.5gigs.

Last time they brought out a device that tests after the router and showed it was getting 5gigs. So does seem like a me issue

They did say anything after cat5e isn't actually an official standard. But i googled it saying it was so again

[waxen pollen]

I googled it saying Cat5e can do 5gig (Maybe 10g) over a few meters. (Like 6) Id have to google it again to make sure

[upbeat shuttle]

lmao what

maybe they meant something like the spec not requiring every optional feature to still qualify, like with USB

[waxen pollen]

Nope, the city fibre engineer said that to the word.

that Cat5e was as far as the official standard went.

Which i thought didn't sound right. But they were higher end engineers

Not just your average tech

[misty furnace]

$75/mo for gig/gig here in the US

but at least there's no FUP restrictions. One month I used over 80TB and had no slowdowns or additional charges

[misty furnace]

I've run a 5gbit connection over 5e before, it's plenty good for about 30-40m

don't have any 10gbit hardware, but I'm sure it would be fine for 10-15m

^ heavily depends on your cable quality, but 5gbit is technically supported on cat5e for up to 100m and 10gbit up to 40m

[waxen pollen]

Yep, that's what i had read. Though was a google AI response.
It's just finding actually good quality ethernet cables brands.

[civic fern]

ye but... we also don't get any restriction here in Italy

true that it's just a 1000/300

but that's because the ISP is scummy as fuck

[gleaming shell]

I'm considering to migrate back to my old ISP not only for sgs but due to the fact they they have a better privacy policy and theyre more local so support is a lot better, and they provide a better router too. I genuinely did enjoy my old ISP, they were amazing just except for the pricing.

But yeah im aware that I shouldn't just "change ISPs solely for the purpose of SGS / Honeygain content delivery". thats why ive been contemplating for a bit, with other factors such as theres actually good quality IPs on my old ISP.

I don't plan to use bandwidth sharing apps to get an ROI on internet bills (given all bandwidth sharing apps in the us kinda suck lol), but yeah only reason why im on the isp im on right now is only due to pricing. I'd gladly downgrade my internet given I get better privacy and support and IP quality.

[gleaming shell]

luckily my old isp doesnt have a forced contract

[gleaming shell]

its a rare offer lol. Also yes internet sucks BALLS and is expensive here. Every isp here only provides cgnat ips and theyre all so expensive

[misty furnace]

and I have had the same "dynamic" ip for years

[gleaming shell]

Its terrible here. Theres actually one ISP that is just nothing but complete balls and I have no idea why so many people in my area use it. (ISP name is mediacom)

They charge 90 dollars a month for CABLE internet (120mbps down, 16mbps up), terrible customer support, and theres a 1.5tb data cap where if you exceed it, they add an additional 10 dollars for every 50gb past the limit on the bill

They also have a "gigabit plan" (upload speed is 50mbps max), and this also isnt safe from their BS. They advertise "unlimited data" on this plan but they added an asterisk *once you exceed 1.5tb they will throttle your bandwidth by 50%

[gleaming shell]

didnt you not get sgs client for monthe then it magically appeared

maybe itll happen to me idk

[misty furnace]

yeah.

[fossil onyx]

Can we run multiple devices for bw sharing with the same IP ?

[gleaming shell]

also comes with a 100 dollar gift card but ik its only like 1.25 months of value lol

and first month is free, so like 2.25 months of value idk

[waxen pollen]

1 IP per device

[onyx fiber]

How mine was working a week ago now it’s dead

My speeds were 230 to 300mpbs

[gentle turtle]

Its a miracle

That will never happen again in a million years

[visual snow]

it was doing so well b4 the update

now my bw gives less then a cent

[tidal bough]

sgsing

capped out at 500mbps because im on wifi lol

[gleaming shell]

my brother is strongly agreeing to migrate back to old isp too

might be the time to give my local isp another shot

[tidal bough]

in Canada there is no choice, it’s either shit company or shittier company

[gleaming shell]

in my area its a choice between bad company, bad ips, and bad pricing

[tidal bough]

I guess in America it’s still the same with AT&T t mobile and Verizon

[onyx fiber]

Same

[visual snow]

i was getting like a dollar a day at least

[onyx fiber]

I was getting 2 or 1 dollar a hour now it’s barely nothing

[misty furnace]

yeah, and a lot of them share the same cell towers so the service sucks for every carrier.

for home internet, there's more options but all really expensive or really slow or all of the above

<3 great cell service here

[gleaming shell]

well their website doesnt even frickin work so the offer ended, im stuck on this balls isp for the next while again

fym "service is unavailable in my area" I WAS A FORMER CUSTOMER AND IT LITERALLY WORKED YESTERDAY

[gleaming shell]

Im returning to my old ISP (not just for my daycare center system tray obv), better ip and privacy and customer support, and a slightly better ping and router.
-# day care center system tray = a system tray of passive income apps that die when i dont look at it

comes with a free install, free month and 100 dollar giftcard, its a 4 year price lock

I originally wanted to buy an ipv4 from my current ISP but it was 10 dollars so it would be more worth to just switch

[waxen pollen]

4 years....

[gleaming shell]

it's usually 2 years at most

[tidal bough]

My isp is really trying to move everyone to 3gbps

[gleaming shell]

cheap Internet 😔

Well

Compared to my area

[tidal bough]

I got my down to 46.32 usd by calling them

Never accept what it says on the website

[gleaming shell]

I think my school provides Internet for people in need for free

But I'm not immoral enough to do that for bandwidth sharing apps

[robust creek]

My god very expensive

[tidal bough]

Which is why you need to call to get the “real” price

[gleaming shell]

I still do not miss Mediacom charging 90 per month for 120/16 cable Internet and 1.5tb data cap with +$10 per 50gb over the limit

sgs was very bipolar with that ISP

[mighty fractal]

are we allowed to run bw and only bw in a vm?

[gleaming shell]

I wouldn't see why not

Ive seen others do it before

(same myself)

[mighty fractal]

thanks that's great to hear, salad was the only app stopping me from switching my main pc to linux, i earn next to nothing with the cpu and gpu so a vm works well for my use case

[gleaming shell]

Pretty useful if you have multiple gateways in your country but only one device

[mighty fractal]

i think that's already dodgier as i don't know if salad would be good with that

[gleaming shell]

i think it was mentioned it wasnt against the tos to run salad in a vm, its just that youll be out of support coverage. and of course no guaranteed itll work

[fossil onyx]

Love it

[misty furnace]

yeah I switched to linux when demand fell for my card in september. Haven't gone back

[mighty fractal]

what's your distro? right now i'm using catchy os

[misty furnace]

Fedora Workstation 43

[gleaming shell]

does salad even care about your speedtests 💀

somehow sgs client randomly started a few minutes ago through mobile data.

(this isnt my actual ping btw, its an outlier speedtest)

i could get 4 devices on rn but my basement mobile data is NOT gonna survive

either way salad does this weird gateway swapping thing so its better to have 2 devices running the only 2 static pay gateways than having a gateway reroll on all computers

just realized now that i have sgs client i cant cpu mine (thats how i heat up the basement) 😔 the app will "chop indefinitely" then kill sgs client and die

dont wanna mine with less threads since itll be very inefficient. I lose thousands of hashes and power usage only drops like 5 to 10 watts

[robust creek]

1300 ping 😆

[gleaming shell]

both sgs died

oh man it was a matrixunassign again

[gleaming shell]

rest in piece sgs, it lasted just a bit under a month

[dusk phoenix]

bw is finnaly having goated jobs again

(pure bw)

[gleaming shell]

i would have fully returned to my old isp by now but the people on my current isp for some reaosn cut the fiber line for my old isp so they can tape theirs in so now they have to bury another fiber line which will take a while, before i get my internet

[gleaming shell]

now i have to wait like another week until they can bury the fiber line then i can use the internet again

they also had an option where i can loosely leave the fiber line on the grass and get the internet set up but it surrounds my entire backyard and these mfs wont bury it until the spring, so theres just going to be a long fiber line that spans across the entire backyard area

[gleaming shell]

no clue why they would cut the fiber line without permission, that would have been a 150 dollar or so damage fine, but thank god it was my new isp that did that and not me, the people that installed my internet also never mentioned they would cut the fiber line

[gleaming shell]

nevermind it continues to live on

[gleaming shell]

sgs died again

frickin matrixunassign again

[gleaming shell]

yeah its gone for good this time

[gleaming shell]

nevermind it continues to live on

[gleaming shell]

might make vms for sgs again

might be more power efficient to just dedicate my desktop for sgs, honeygain, earnapp, and all the stuff rather than having specific instances running on multiple computers

and a laptop connected to my mobile data exit node for apps that are one device per ip only

[tame flicker]

Has anyone recovered since the ndm issue ? still isn't coming back for me

[upbeat shuttle]

ndm issue?

it was fixed in an app update, update to the latest version if you haven't already

[lofty pelican]

the latest update made my salad shit bricks and 4 days straight been stuck at looking for job when doing only bandwidth sharing

[tame flicker]

yeah i updated and it's fixed, but since then sgs isn't coming back, only making 6cent a day

[waxen pollen]

Diiiiiid you report it to #official-support ? It really helps the rest of us if chefs are reporting issues. The more than come in the faster it gets assigned a higher priority and (Hopefully) gets fixed for all of us. Just make sure you add your log files to the report

[fossil onyx]

Around 2$ a day with 1.9.7

[waxen pollen]

☝️☝️

[gleaming shell]

why did the stupid speedtesting software choose a server on the other side of the world 🔥

amazing

[gleaming shell]

@waxen pollen i think you were the person that has sgs VMs?

if so, how much vcpus do you dedicate to each of them, as well as memory?
a while back I had 4 vms with 4vcpus each and 4gb ram each, but sometimes it would occasionally freeze, i did however use a full windows install, not a stripped down one that takes less resources.

[waxen pollen]

I do. Using anywhere between 35/55% of the CPU (a Ryzen 9 9950X)

Official Win11 OS needs 4VCores and 4Gbs of ram to run stability. So unsure why they you'd be experiencing freezing. You have the min they require.
Have you ran a RAM stability test via the host machine with all other machines offline?

I hope for a public Linux version soon.

Really wanna double my ram to 256GBs but really really don't fancy paying £1500 for the pleasure

[gleaming shell]

am sure my ram works fine, i run diagnostics on every piece of tech i buy lol

it was 4 vms running totaling 16vcpus which is the amount of threads I have (ryzen 7 5700x), and my ram usage on host machine at times did go pretty high, but not enough to where my ssd would get pinned for pagefile

ill probably just run 2 to 3 vms this time (given the current gateway situation of us bandwidth), so i could maybe put more vcpus and ram into each, that might be a bit more stable. I dont expect us bandwidths "dead gateway abundance situation" to clear out in a while (hey atleast toolik is no longer alive now). so no need for more vms

[gleaming shell]

wanted to upgrade to 64gb ram but not any time soon now. my best option is to just get a sodimm to dim adapter as I do have a 32gb laptop ram I can use

[waxen pollen]

Could be a ram spike causing the VM to freeze. Though don't recall that happening to me often at all when i was using the official Win11 OS

[gleaming shell]

maybe

[waxen pollen]

Get it more often using an unofficial OS though

[gleaming shell]

ive always used official windows installs on my vms since i trusted those the most lol

[waxen pollen]

there's sites that are closed off (Invite only) that are pretty trusted due to the nature of the community. Id be sus about using a public Unofficial OS site though. Mind you there's no guarantees even with a closed off site. But more likely to get found out and thus loose the trust and get booted

[gleaming shell]

@granite steppe oh yeah I forgot to tell you, I got blessed with sgs just a few days ago

unfortunately I am changing ISPs again 😭

[gleaming shell]

also forgot to ask 💀 how much disk space do you allocate for each vm?, windows 11 wants 64gb but after a fresh install its only used 17gb, and i dont expect it to even exceed 32gb after installing all the apps and crap

of course i could give it 64gb in case a cpu container comes up but considering how unreliable and short-lived they are, and adding on to that being in a vm, id rather use the storage for other stuff on host machine

or i could have the virtual disk to "dynamically expand" but worried something might screw up when my disk space is low but the vm still thinks theres a lot of storage, and tries to use it

[tidal bough]

my windows 11 iot ltsc vm runs on 32gb

i could probably get away with 20gb

[gleaming shell]

32gb it is then

[gleaming shell]

i wish i could run honeygain, pawns, and earnapp on a virtual machine so i can have one of the vms on exit node but for whatever stupid reason its "against their tos" or "at your own risk or else the anti cheat (automated clankers) will get you"

pawns.app theres some uncertainty whether you can or cant run it on a vm

earnapp and its clanker software and literal daily banning people doesnt allow you to run it on a vm or else youre banned

honeygain says its not against their tos but "we wont unban you if our clankers flag you, so dont do it"

would be a lot more efficient running all these apps on one computer than having multiple computers running the apps

but for some reason these apps still enforce that you dont use a virtual machine, EVEN THO THESE APPS ONLY ALLOW ONE DEVICE PER IP, SO A VM DOES NOTHING TO "ABUSE"

[gleaming shell]

gave both vms my resources 💀

(its high because i limited my cpu to 1.7ghz to save power, and the fact that i gave both vms 16vcpus which i shouldnt do)

[robust creek]

You have 800 disks connected

[robust creek]

nice

[waxen pollen]

I allocate 30GBs, used to give 65 for official windows though

[waxen pollen]

wishful thinking. I use a slimed down win11 OS and i have to allocate 30GBs each. I have 5Gbs at most free after i've removed the annoying public profile and user files.

and that varies from 5Gb at most to just a GB of free space

[waxen pollen]

EarnApp used to allow VMs and Proxies. They can go jump off a small bridge for all i care on how they treated us. If they hadn't of been so scummy, we (Farmers) wouldn't have decided to screw it and setup 1000s of VMs. (Well, least my group anyways, you'll always get those that don't give to rats about anyone else and go balls to the wall)

[waxen pollen]

800 VMS? Dang

Try not going to balls to the wall aye

Else itll only come back to kick you in the teeth in the long run, while also screwing us over too. Which you'll never get any love from me for doing it 😅

also, remember not to put all your eggs in one location. Spread them out.

[gleaming shell]

yep 💀

[gleaming shell]

luckily he said disks, not vms
My computer is NOT running 800 at once any time soon 💀

[gleaming shell]

yeah they claim it's intended to be run on "personal devices on your own IP" since the app is "a pocket money app" and "not something to replace your job" or something

Either way, such a shame they have such rules

[waxen pollen]

When they said that to me, that was the moment i said sod them and ran 8000 VMs off the network. Between my group we had 16000 VM/proxies running.

Treat us like cattle, i'll treat you like the clowns you are

[gleaming shell]

oh and the transition from pay-per-gigabyte to pay-per-time where they now use bandwidth that would've earned you several dollars per day but only pay you some cents, didn't forget that. Whole server protested and complained yet they still went with it and now it's buried/not talked about

iirc they also banned some users who talked bad about the app too 💀

[waxen pollen]

Yeah they don't give two craps about us. As they love to say to us, they can do it without us. Because BRIGHTDATA!!

Bummer

It had actually been 4 weeks to the day since my internet last disconnected last. thats 1 month since i got it, 2/3 months ago. It was disconnecting multiple times a day

[robust creek]

📈

finally some good earnings after a while

[livid elm]

@waxen pollen do you experience random sgs freezes? Windows is up and responsive, everything 'works' but sgs is idling - process itself is running but there is no real traffic (only every 5 minutes ping is there). Once it dies it is dead forever. I have to restart windows

[waxen pollen]

Na, mines just windows being a Dck. Because it's so bloated that when you remove things from it. (Lite OS) It has a Pssy fit about it 😅

[tame flicker]

I guess that's why sgs wasn't really coming back

running on 1.9.7

[robust creek]

i still have 1.9.5

[tame flicker]

I just sent them an email about the issue

all of thoses speedtest being done every 5minutes

time scale a month

[robust creek]

i always take weeks to update when an update comes out, becasue of laziness, don't wanna lose sgs, and possible odd bugs like this

i remember in 2022 the app was sometimes updating itself automatically and staying on "installation complete, click to lauch the app!"

horrible

[waxen pollen]

same

SGS doesn't need updating very often

[robust creek]

after a while it kills itself and doesn't start again unless you update, for some unknown reasons. why you need updates for sharing your connection as a proxy/vpn??

[waxen pollen]

Never had that myself unless it's a sunset version.

[waxen pollen]

More than likely they sunset the version.

[robust creek]

it was happening mostly in 2022/2023, now only once

[waxen pollen]

They haven't sunset a version since 1.7.0

[waxen pollen]

Well that was a long time ago when the app wasn't as stable i bet

Not that it's stable now mind you

[robust creek]

in 2023 they did like 1 update every weeks, it was so much anoying.. expecially for the fact it was downloading it and installing it automatically even if they was telling it was just a bug, but it happened, a lot of time. it wasn't even opening itself after updating, you had to manually click the button

thankfully it didn't happen again

they probably was doing some testing stuff in 2023, too many updates over the summer

[waxen pollen]

Ohh ik they did. I'm glad there not as often, but i also feel like not much is being done to improve the app now either. No new features, no highly requested features either.

[robust creek]

they was even mandatory updates or seemed like it

from the "auto update" bug, to sgs dead until you update..

[gleaming shell]

Oh right that lol

[robust creek]

painful

[gleaming shell]

no clue how salad updated itself without the admin rights prompt

[robust creek]

i start suspecting it was not a bug but made in purpose

but anyways it's 2026 not 2023 now

[gleaming shell]

They could have at least auto started the app 😭

[robust creek]

i have never understood why autodownload the updates in the furst place XD

in my opinion when you see the popup and click update, it should download AND THEN install

[gleaming shell]

these apps shouldn't auto update. Especially if it abruptly ends jobs

[robust creek]

why auto download?

[gleaming shell]

this

Frees up some disk space

[robust creek]

but also, don't think like a guy with unlimited fiber always available, what if, a guy has a laptop and switches from 2 places regularly, in one places has unlimited internet, on the other place only 4g hotspot

salad auto speedtests, and auto downloads the update

huge waste of data for the poor guy

(this is my exact scenario if i would install salad onmy laptop, i'm not always at home and i grab my laptop with me)

but i don't have salad there so is not my case

[robust creek]

Especially in 2023, the update was 1,4GB, remember?

[gleaming shell]

Oh yeah the container beta days the installer got bigger and bigger every update lol

[tame flicker]

I updated because the laptop crashed and I was like meh, should probably do it I was on 1.8.4 before

[gleaming shell]

ok so turns out I was right, every bandwidth sharing app except for salad will ban you for running it in a vm

what a joke

i guess you cant have some efficiency running the apps on one centralized computer

literally whats the point of banning virtual machines when YOUR STUPID APP PHYSICALLY BLOCKS MULTIPLE DEVICES PER IP

would be a lot more efficient to have 2 SGS vms and a third vm connected to my phones exit node, running bandwidth sharing apps on a seperate IP, rather than having to use another computer.

and considering these bandwidth sharing apps cant last more than 3 seconds without killing themselves when you look away, a vm would be easier to manage these apps^. I guess for whatever reason they prohibit that

sure i could run it on the host machine but whats the point, im limited to one instance only

[gleaming shell]

just barely scrapes the limit on an official install lol

also seems like I'm only able to recieve na-saf and na-lif (the testing workloads)

(good part is that it eliminates all the dead gateways, bad news is i cant get daffodil 4 and lotus, the gateways with jobs

[waxen pollen]

Yeah i used to give it 65Gigs, win11 is just a bloated mess

[gleaming shell]

yeah

ive only installed 3 apps so far: virtualbox guest addons, salad, and winaero tweaker

oh well i dont plan to run cpu containers in these vms so shouldnt be an issue

[waxen pollen]

well there you have it, installing anything other than salad with 30Gigs of storage space will not work well

[gleaming shell]

luckily salad is the only passive income app im seemingly allowed to run on a vm, so it should be all i need for atleast the long future

[waxen pollen]

any other user profiles in here? If so delete it and then delete the user folder in file explorer

[gleaming shell]

theres only one user, which is the one im signed into

though for some reason my second vm had a second user

i did delete that one tho

[waxen pollen]

👍

they literally can take up like 5Gigs of storage

[swift trellis]

What’s the limit of devices and ip per account?

[waxen pollen]

that is debated. Officially there is no limit to the amount of devices an account can have.
It seems either to be a bug or something that we are limited to how ever many gateways a region has. So for the UK it's 6.

There is a limit to the amount of devices an IP can hold. Which is 1 per device. IE each device should have it's own unique IP.

[swift trellis]

I’m also uk with 8 residential ip but when they are all on one account only 3 seem to work

But when I split them they all work 3 per account

[waxen pollen]

Hmm i'm unsure if different parts of the UK have access to different amounts of gateways or not. I've seen 5 gateways down in the south while someone in the midlands saw 6 gateways

[swift trellis]

I’m just outside London, but only can get 3 to fire at one time

It’s very annoying

Might delete reinstall all and try again

Would be easier to manage one account

[gleaming shell]

I'm in the us, I've only gotten 4 to connect at once at most (there are about 16 gateways here)

Can't get the 5th one, even with my mobile data (which I can get sgs on)

[waxen pollen]

So iust FYI Officially, that's meant to be against TOS. We are meant to be limited to 1 single account. But with this bug where we are limited to (Or seems like it) to how every many gateways a region has and the official stance of theres not meant to be any limits on how many devices an account can run SGS on.

[waxen pollen]

In your logs, how many different gateways show up?

[swift trellis]

Sounds like a catch 22

[swift trellis]

Where do I check this

[waxen pollen]

Yeah, i was given permission, then was told that it's not allowed. Still don't really know what's going on, still no it's ok or not ok. Even after talking to a SGS staff member 😅 and i have a whole bunch of accounts. Honestly i just wouldn't do it till it's been figured out. Hopefully they will find and fix the bug soon. Please @austere shoal 😅

[waxen pollen]

Either click the app, then the 3 bars and show logs, or go to C:\programdata\salad\logs

[waxen pollen]

yeah there the ones i get

the PV-C one is a recent one though

[swift trellis]

All my ip are south or south west they have the same, so we should be able to run 5 per account atleast

[waxen pollen]

hmm, so maybe it's not a region limit then

[swift trellis]

Bug been around for ages I don’t get it

[waxen pollen]

Ohh it's been around for well over a year at this point

[swift trellis]

I’d happily give them 20 ip if they sort it out

[waxen pollen]

What the heck is this bug. If theres not meant to be a limit, then WHY!!!!

[swift trellis]

I guess my wife will sign up with my other ip then

Then my auntie

Then my uncle

[waxen pollen]

Thats certainly a work around

Just don't over do it and get us all backlashed you know

be reasonable and hopefully they won't do an EarnApp or HoneyGain on us

[swift trellis]

I run those plus others they are not bad all together but I like this one because there is no cap to earnings

[waxen pollen]

Salads legit and want us to make something while using their app. Unlike EarnApp where we were only allowed for it to be pocket change only.

[swift trellis]

Earnapp are naughty, let us use unlimited data but you get $5

Atleast here you could get decent change if the ip thing was fixed

[waxen pollen]

wow is it $5 now? Was $10 last i heard

[swift trellis]

Us only

[waxen pollen]

dang

what a joke

[swift trellis]

Earn app just pays my internet every month

[waxen pollen]

They really are a scummy bunch over there

And that Vita guy can go suck on a pile of 🐮💩

[swift trellis]

Paid intern

[waxen pollen]

went right to his head that power trip did

[swift trellis]

Charging $5 a Gb but using 100Gb for $5

They making bank

[waxen pollen]

ohh they really are. Paying us 5/10 $ per month all while putting as much BW down our throats as they like all while charging their clients upwards of $25 per GB

[swift trellis]

For real

Few new ones have popped up recently paying 0.3 a gb but th ey haven’t got much traffic yet

[waxen pollen]

Truly treated us like a bunch of 🐮

[gleaming shell]

as an earnapp user i can very much agree.

I still find it funny how the announcement they posted on transitioning their model LITERALLY said "better earnings for everyone", that implies the US as well

well that turned out to be a lie, ever since the pay per time model got implemented, my daily earnings of at least 50 cents for 500 MEGABYTES (sometimes even more like $1+ when traffic overflows from high demand), turned into a 25ish cents per day AT MOST for however much data they want to use (ive seen 7 GIGABYTES in a day. That would have been 7 dollars if it was pay per gb).

before they announced their transition, they said there would be a "big update to earnapp". Little did us users know that the said "big update" would mean Earnapp would basically ruin what made it so special and competitive in the US, and they would abuse everyones bandwidth for a static pay.

and without account to the fact that us users experienced the complete oppisite of what the "big update" promised, sure other countries might have an increase in earnings, but still doesnt change the fact that it involved the users essentially getting abused, and they can use whatever bandwidth they want and pay their users crap

man I still remember that day EVERYONE (including users from low-demand countries that would've earned more from pay per time since theyre now getting abused with this model), complained and protested in the server, but the mods/owner kept using the same excuse of "well atleast you still earn more from earnapp than honeygain and stuff (which is just complete bs now)" and "earnapp is just for side money, not to replace your job" as excuses

then eventually it was forgotten, like all other things. and now everyone uses the pay per time model and noone complains in the server (noone unwilling to get banned would dare to)

and not to mention their new app that NOONE asked for sucks BALLS. I just want a small system tray app with a start/stop button that works when I want it to. Not some ugly dysfunctional painfully purple app that cant last 2 seconds without killing itself on mobile ip without recovering then refusing to connect for the next 52 attempts, a STUPID gpu intensive animated status, 3 buttons to press just to start and stop the app, and not to mention the new update STUPIDLY LOGS ITSELF OUT everytime

whoops ranted a bit too much in the bandwidth sharing thread, anyways i really hope salad/sgs doesnt become like this where they screw over the users. Salad is now the only app with potential in the US now (aside form the dead gateway abundance)

It used to be salad, earnapp, and honeygain being the 3 competitive bandwidth sharing apps. But ever since honeygain decreaed their payout its been mid ever since, bringing it down to 2. Earnapp then decided to just screw over all their users. Were only left with salad for a potential, but its not the best right now in the US (please dont disappoint us, whoevers behind the testing workload).
It especially sucked to see earnapp come to this. It was the only other known bandwidth sharing app aside from salad that didnt earn like crap, and didnt bomb your ip.

[misty furnace]

yap

[gleaming shell]

i lose awareness how long these messages are when its on my 1440p 27 inch monitor 💀

[gleaming shell]

this guys gonna get ghosted so hard

[waxen pollen]

It sucks as there's no competition in the industry for us. There's just Salad and that's bad for us in the long run.

[frigid reef]

There is competition…

[waxen pollen]

What, EA, HG, Pawns? If that's the quality of your competition, i feel like you have nothing to worry about

Us chefs actually get paid far more than anyone using those other apps do.

Normally the company takes 90% if not more off us

[frigid reef]

its still competition though

Same goes for like steam, there is competition aka epic games, etc even though they shoot themself in the shot every week it still counts

[waxen pollen]

Is it though. Competitions drives prices up, it drives innovation. All those other apps do is take our money. It's not good for us, maybe good for their other clients and their bank balances, but it's certainly isn't for those that are providing the resources.

But as EA loves to say, they don't need us. They have BRIGHTDATA!!!

[robust creek]

Salad is the only good paying one for the bandwidth supported countries

No other app pays as good and is as safe, not even myst, they have lower and lower traffic and it damages the ip

The thing i disagree about all of the apps is that we need to pay transaction fees, come on they probably make 10 times what they gave us in return, they definitelly could pay them themselves

[waxen pollen]

I heard Salad isn't actually profitable rn, unlike the other apps that take at least, 90% of what their other clients pay them.

[robust creek]

you talking about bw or hardware?

to increase bw profitability they could honestly make a linux version, a raspberry or chinese equivalent surely uses less power than a windows computer

[waxen pollen]

BW ofc

[robust creek]

a windows computer is surely not need to open a proxy/vpn connection...

[waxen pollen]

I hope they release one this year and also fix this limit to how many BW devices we can have running SGS at the same time on the same account.

Id be able to double my VMs then. Assuming a linxus VM would require 1GBs of ram each

[steady fjord]

Quick question. Does salad allows us to share bandwidth from VM? If no, will the entire account get suspended if one of the machines were sharing bandwidth from a VM?

[misty furnace]

everything exists for sgs on linux, but workload authorization means you need to have it assigned before it can do work

literally just need a minimal salad app that authorizes the workload

[robust creek]

salad linux version why not

[gleaming shell]

yeah earnapp only makes a very tiny percent of their profit lol

[gleaming shell]

You can do it, Ive done it before along with macwhinny. You wont get suspended for running salad in a vm, as Salad is one of the ONLY passive income apps that do not stupidly ban you for using a vm. Just be aware that you wont recieve any support if you encounter issues so everything is kinda "at your won risk".

am pretty sure one of the salad staff has confirmed it aswell, its just a "no suport coverage"

[waxen pollen]

Don't see why it wouldn't be supported. It's just a virtual environment (IE a PC) like any other physical device where Salad is running.

[misty furnace]

it's fully supported, just not an official use case. It's sometimes difficult to know if the random bug is from the app or because it's in a vm

anything outside of stock baremetal windows is not an official use case

[waxen pollen]

hmm ok

[robust creek]

The fact is that the people running their sdk, is not as stable as earnapp users

Earnapp users keeps their devices turned on in purpose

Normal people turns their computer off when is not needed

So, earnapp is still in a way or another, preferred for a business like that

speaking of earnapp they banned my home static ip so i can't use it anymore XD i don't really care honestly, what i was earning with earnapp on 1 entire month i earn it in 1-2 days with salad, with the same ip

[gleaming shell]

am pretty sure they use automation (clankers) to ban. And what makes that fact even worse is that they use ipissqualityscore, but they probably use a paid plan so it might be slightly more accurate, who knows

my IP is for some reason marked as a bot and proxy on ipqs (even though its not), but earnapp has yet to do anything

[fossil onyx]

I earned around 2$ a day during 1 week and now 0.5$ . Should I check or do something ? Restart salad , PC ?

[waxen pollen]

It could be that your gateway may have been switched to one that doesn't have as much traffic flowing through it.

It could be that the traffic has slumped.

It could have been due to an internet outage, Salad has a horrible habit of taking days to ramp traffic back up.

It could be one of a few different things tbh.

It could be because you looked at it wrong. Who knows

[fossil onyx]

So nothing to do with? wait and see ?

If it should goes up again it will automatically ?

[waxen pollen]

Pretty much, see what it's like in a few days. You can also keep tabs on which gateway your on and there for when it changes. If gateway x has more traffic and it's changed for gateway y, then it's a way of knowing the cause.
You can also stop salad for 5/10 mins and then start chopping again to try and get the better gateway back. Though be mindful, as doing that too regular can get you blocked for a time.

[fossil onyx]

Thanks you

[steady fjord]

Another quick question. How many GBs salad transfers before it pays you 1$. For me its 215GB

[livid elm]

@waxen pollen sgs died again. How can I prevent this? The process is running, but I doubt it will ever get workload unless I restart pc. Screenshot is last 3h traffic. I happenes from time to time, I don't know how to prevent this.

[livid elm]

I got paid over 10$ for 1TB (up+down so 2TB total)

[steady fjord]

so its same. The mentioned 215GB was up+down

[waxen pollen]

are you still on the same gateway?

Salad has a nasty habit of switching

[waxen pollen]

It's a shockingly bad ratio, but least the traffic "can" be high for you to make a decent amount.

[safe niche]

Ive been running salad for like 3 days after reinstalling with no break got a good container but no signs of bw

[waxen pollen]

An Update on my conversation with the SGS team member EK.

I new system for SGS is planned. Which is awesome news. Just not the highest priority rn.

And once again confirms that there's no official limit to the amount of SGS devices one account can have running. I need to do a bit more testing then.

[humble wharf]

..

[waxen pollen]

Is it BW related? If not post this in #community-support and or report it to #official-support

[waxen pollen]

Still seems limited for some unknown reason 😩🤔

[robust creek]

guys if i run salad on both of my computers with same IP address and my country has 2 sgs, will both of them run each sgs available in my country like it was in 2023?

pc 1: use sgs 1
pc 2: use sgs 2

[pulsar gorge]

Yes

I am currently running two sgs from same IP, athelas and henna

[robust creek]

vm allowed?

[gleaming shell]

yes

[misty furnace]

both can, but not guaranteed to run

[robust creek]

just need to be sure that the other computer doesn't "steal" the sgs of the other

[misty furnace]

that can happen

@gleaming shell knows

[gleaming shell]

oh it can and might will lmao...

but if your country has all good gateways and no worrying about dead gatewys, you should be fine

[gleaming shell]

Coming from my experience running multiple gateways

If you kill sgs-client on one device, it has a chance that sgs-clients on other machines will also get killed to swap gateways with each other.

Also theres a chance that 2 machines might be connected to the same gateway. In that case, one of them will eventually get killed and swapped for another gateway

[robust creek]

my sgs never dies, it dies only when he wants to be updated

[waxen pollen]

Just a heads up, Salads SGS team will be enforcing 1 IP per device enough

[robust creek]

how come

[waxen pollen]

Officially, it's meant to be 1 IP per device.

[robust creek]

but there are more clients, more sgs

[robust creek]

woow

they doesn't use my ip much for that btw

they mostly use it as bridge

i see lot of traffic from other residential ips being downloaded and then uploaded to the sgs

this is just 5% of the traffic they used

most of the traffic comes from residential ips, i doubt are streaming services

[waxen pollen]

I tried to argue our case so to speak. But seems there's no movement on it.

Which i don't agree with tbf. I don't see how it would be all that likely for the a streaming client to be using more than 1 gateway (Considering they said that each client has their own gateway) so there for unlikely that our IP would be used more than once, so long as it's only 1 gateway 1 device has the same IP. But they weren't having it. If that makes sense.

[robust creek]

also consider that residential ips happens to be used by more than 1 person at the same time too

in ISP side

not my case as i have static ip, but other who has CGNAT...

[waxen pollen]

Ok never mind.

forgot that was said

[waxen pollen]

That seems to be a US thing. Don't think it's a practice here in Europe, but could be wrong.

Ok never mind

[robust creek]

i know it because i somehow worked on this field in these years

[waxen pollen]

just didn't think that would be legal here in the UK

by i was wrong

[robust creek]

it mostly happens with mobile ips btw, but not only

[robust creek]

it's not random that mobile ips changes so often

some after 8 hours some after 2 some 24 some 4

depends by the isp

[waxen pollen]

They really need to hurry to conversion to IPV6

and just end IPV4

hopefully that would bring down the pricing too.

[robust creek]

ipv6 is easier to get, so i think we would also earn less on these apps

less market

[waxen pollen]

If it costs the ISPs less to rent these IPS, then you'd hope they would eventually share that reduction with the customers

[robust creek]

HAHAHA you wish

[waxen pollen]

See that i'm unsure about. It's possible ofc, but also they still need legit residential IPs.

[gleaming shell]

i wish isps here heard this message 😔

literally every isp here only has ipv4 support

and theyre all cgnat

my only source of ipv6 is my <1mbps upload in the basement mobile data

[waxen pollen]

Man swapping proxies over takes so dang long 😅

[waxen pollen]

Not many here have them either. But started seeing a few. I at least now have an IPV6 address, unlike with my last provider.

[livid elm]

As far as I know we have one gateway here. I let it run just to make sure it's dead. The process itself is not dead or frozen. Uses TINY amounts of data (my screenshot is for 3h). Salad app doesn't show 0.00-0.00. it just shows 0.00 like no sgs at all.

[waxen pollen]

Finally, done 🥺

[waxen pollen]

hmm,could just be lacking traffic

have you tried restarting the device?

[civic fern]

demand skyrockets at night wtf

[thorny imp]

Generally what countries are doing good rn? my swedish gets a $1 every now and then and just struggles. I see some italian network traffic in this chat with the larger sgs jobs. Is the top dogs still UK & Italy?

[misty furnace]

yeah, mostly just 🍵 and 🍕

[thorny imp]

🤌

[misty furnace]

🍔 every once in a while

[thorny imp]

Alright. Welp, i shall enjoy my $1 per whenever for a while more ig til i move for work, to 🇨🇿 i go!

[gleaming shell]

8/11/2025 - 8/12/2025 the unknown galbraith job insurgence

never to be seen again

[thorny imp]

wait VMs are allowed/work now? i personally havent used salad since like 1.6.3 so idk

[gleaming shell]

well, vms are allowed but its "at your own risk" so if you encounter issues, support wont help

[thorny imp]

huh, thats new ig. Last time i used salad they were very much not allowed and i almost got banned for talking about them lmao

[gleaming shell]

really?
im pretty sure a salad staff has confirmed here before that they arent prohibited

I wouldnt see why a vm isnt allowed unless youre tricking the app in a way

[thorny imp]

when i got it explaied too me in dms (i think) they said it was for hogging traffic for other salad users which makes a lot of sense to me cuz if 1 person could be using, lets say, 5 instances of SGS-client in the UK and earn like 15usd per day instead of 5 users getting 3usd each per day

[gleaming shell]

in that case running 5 physical machines and getting the gateways would have the same effect anyways, vms just make it slightly more power efficient.
and even if they do want to prevent hogging they shouldve just implemented it themselves like other apps do that block multiple devices per ip 💀

but given you havent used salad in a while things might have changed idk

but either way, i believe you should be able to use vms for now

there shouldnt by any harm in doing so. Salad doesnt do any "data scraping" stuff so a vm should be safe afaik

[thorny imp]

that is good to know. I shall put my home server on some work then.

[gleaming shell]

yeah vms are useful if you have many gateways in your country. Using vms is the same effect as having x amount of physical machines but its "centralized" and potentially more efficient on power.

i wouldnt bother tho if theres not many good gateways in your country or many gateways at all^, its more efficient to just run it on some low power laptop. for some reason virtual machines cause my cpu power to go high even when the vm is idle so in my case i only do it in cases like 8/11/2025

[thorny imp]

i believe my country has 3 gateways and they do get somewhat ok traffic, just not super constant traffic.

6-12h of traffic per 1-2 days

oh wait, there are now 4 apparently

[thorny imp]

(got this information from friend of mine that is also located in sweden)

[civic fern]

Italy the new uk wtf

[robust creek]

My traffic died badly instead

[civic fern]

i don't understand

this is the highest i've personally ever seen

in all these years

i'll definitely take it

[robust creek]

My highest was 7$

[waxen pollen]

you can thank windows for that

[livid elm]

it is very strange. I think it is not sgs issue - i think it is salad app issue actually. My app still shows 1.67$ earnings last 24h and I didn't earn anything because SGS is dead. Earnings are actually 0$. So I guess salad app is the one to blame here.

once I restart Salad app status will be updated but I don't really feel like monitoring it daily

[waxen pollen]

Then id report it to #official-support. It's a visual bug and could have a backend issue too. So worth reporting it.

What version fo the app are you on?

[livid elm]

1.9.7 - do you have CPU enabled on your SGS machines?

[waxen pollen]

If it's just BW your doing then i have both GPU and CPU turned off.

After you have reported the issue to #official-support With your log files (C:\ProgramData\Salad\logs - upload the entire log folder) and machine ID, revert back to 1.9.5, it's a more stable version for BW rn. Hopefully with reports they can fix the issues in the next update.
https://github.com/SaladTechnologies/salad-applications/releases/tag/1.9.5

[civic fern]

https://tenor.com/view/clair-obscur-gif-3997765438463569121

[civic fern]

I wonder if i can reach 1TB of upload just today

750GB atm

[robust creek]

it was 4+ yesterday

[civic fern]

dayum

[waxen pollen]

[civic fern]

why did you delete the message

lol

[waxen pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-elmer-fudd-looney-tunes-no-hagan-ruido-silencio-gif-15359412335766305595

[civic fern]

sooooo

my pc just BSOD'd

but it is still going strong anyway

it does not care

[gleaming shell]

wtf is going on with italy 💀

who is that customer

[robust creek]

its random and ends fast

[robust creek]

when your pc died the traffic came to me

[civic fern]

f

[robust creek]

how much upload you have?

[civic fern]

300mbps

i mean, that's the limit

[robust creek]

same as me

i could upgrade to 500 if i want, but i think it would cost

waaait a second 👁️

it's not clear.. it says lower price than what i have and says it's discounted for the first months but then it doesn't says how much it will be after those discounted months 🤔

it's funny how sometimes it already uses more than 300mbps even for a short time

[civic fern]

If i had to guess, it's windows messing up some readings

It sometimes goes over the threshold, but then the next reading is way below that.

[robust creek]

traffic is dead anyways

🤷‍♂️ very unstable

[waxen pollen]

It's dead, it's alive, no it's dead. No it's alive, naaa it went again

[civic fern]

https://tenor.com/view/alright-like-gif-8011336597935493657

i'll miss it though

[serene falcon]

Can anyone help me with sgs in vm

It slowly increase ram usage and then drop again to 1mb it just keep on repeating earning are not that good I think it's effecting my earning's.

[robust creek]

Its completely gone for me

[waxen pollen]

I bet, i feel for you. It's the worst when.... Well actually not having any work would be the worst, but a close second must be having it sporadic like it is for the US chefs

[misty furnace]

unless there is a degraded error showing in the app, I'm going to assume that's normal

[robust creek]

Traffic is 💀 📉

[gleaming shell]

Italy bandwidth bipolar

[robust creek]

Or someone else took it

[gleaming shell]

the customers here in the us suck balls

Literally they just sign up for sgs then do nothing so everyone gets dead gateways 💀

[safe niche]

whats the traffic in india man 🥀

[gleaming shell]

Except for the og daffodil (dead), daffidil-4, dandelion (dead), and lotus

[gleaming shell]

I remember India had some strong bandwidth back then

What happened to it 💀

[safe niche]

its dead

idk if its just me tho

its been like months

since i got a bw job

[gleaming shell]

I haven't seen anyone post about it in a while

[safe niche]

yea

[pulsar gorge]

I was getting more than 2$ per day, it ran for 30 days

Good traffic on one of the gateways

My laptop auto-updated yesterday and lost sgs, trying to get that gateway but I am getting the different one

[fossil onyx]

Should i keep enable cpu and gpu usage enable for bandwidth sharing ? And what about crypto mining , enabled or disabled ?

[upbeat shuttle]

idk what you want, it's up to you

[serene falcon]

@safe niche i am from India earning 1$ atleast a day

But graph of earning is up and down from few days. Unstable.

[safe niche]

Damn

[visual grail]

I can confirm it to you brother. It's just you 💀

Without containers, SGS has been ALONE carrying my ass 😭😭😭😭

Else my salad earnings would be a drought LITE-RAHLY
(Trust me that was super posh)

How do you even check the pins on phone 💔😭

I want to check the pins 😭😭😭

[gleaming shell]

Gotta click the channel name 😭

[visual grail]

💀

[civic tusk]

sgs client isn't running for me for some reason, but it sometimes runs even when it doesn't have a job, any ideas?

[upbeat shuttle]

if sgs client is running, then you've got a job

[mighty fractal]

i'm starting to think that salad isn't a stable way to pay my spotify sub 🤔

[upbeat shuttle]

simple solution, don't use spotify

[misty furnace]

yt music + ad blocker

[safe loom]

ai slop

spotify better

i put that on my momma

i know you guys don't go out much but

spotify jam is the greatest feature on earth

[robust creek]

it never was

also.. why paying to listen music.. uhm

😅

[safe niche]

Metrolist

[mighty fractal]

i don't know, it feels like the right thing to me, also the spotify ads were starting to bug me out

[robust creek]

i dont use it directly

[mighty fractal]

also, i can say that the experiment of running salad in a vm came out to be successful

[waxen pollen]

I used to pay for Spotify and was getting ads on podcasts. I noped the hell outta there and started paying for YT prem. I watch more than enough contents for it to be worth it and i can now listen to music via YT music while i'm out without having to stream actual music videos eating up my data.

[waxen pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-13756627858705577878

Been doing it for months and months

[mighty fractal]

so, i've been considering it, and there is also the fact that i have student pricing for it, but the deal breaker for me is that i can't use it to listen to music on my ps5

[waxen pollen]

well thats dumb. You'd think they would have that functionality. can you not listen to it on a mobile while streaming it to something like an alexa device?

[mighty fractal]

basically spotify patnered with them so thats why that's there, for the alexa device i actually do have alexa but the fact is that i usually play with headphones

[waxen pollen]

ahh right

makes sense then

[robust creek]

ok now i have both of sgs running, one on main pc and second on laptop (with ethernet adapter) let's see if my earnings will be a little better

[waxen pollen]

depends on which gateways they connect to. Both could be connected to dead gateways at worst, or both could be connected the top two traffic gateways at best.

which is STUPID!!

why not just switch us to a gateway that has traffic

[robust creek]

there are only 2 in here

[waxen pollen]

well, your lucky then 😅

mind you, i'm lucky too. Could be worse, could live in the US

[gleaming shell]

it's bad here but atleast the people on the testing workloads are forced on the testing gateways with static pay

So it's a "temporary"

[waxen pollen]

yeah but will that be yet another gateway for you to connect to out of over a dozen others 😅

It's mad

why they don't remove old/dead gateways

If the client one day wants to send more data down that gateway, they should be required to email in requesting the gateway again. "THAT" should be in their contract, they have to keep the gateway running with traffic else they lose it.

The system needs to be fair to us too

Not just all for the more important clients

[mighty fractal]

wtf

[waxen pollen]

Check the notification icon

[mighty fractal]

ok

container enviromment update

i don't want to run containers on that

don't really care about them

[waxen pollen]

then disable GPU and CPU then

[mighty fractal]

ohh ok thank you

looks like it's already disabled

[waxen pollen]

can you screenshot the notification

helps us help you know 😅

[mighty fractal]

mhh then why do i see that error? i don't want to mess with anything as i don't want to kill these crazy earnings

[upbeat shuttle]

just leave it as it is, i guess

[waxen pollen]

ahh, you need to update WSL, though this may require you to reinstall the app.

Open CMD and type WSL --update then press any key

[mighty fractal]

i'm sorry if my original message wasn't clear, i wasn't asking for support, i just wanted to share the crazy 1 hour earning i had

that doesn't annoy me one bit

yeaah

bw

[waxen pollen]

Yeah that crazy hourily earnings

[mighty fractal]

i think i might be earning even more that the uk users

[upbeat shuttle]

what's your past 24h?

oh wait you already sent it

[waxen pollen]

where you location? Region?

[upbeat shuttle]

$4.43, pretty good

[mighty fractal]

italy, sicily

[waxen pollen]

I've gotton just over $8 in one day, but that was over 4 devices

[waxen pollen]

not bad

[mighty fractal]

i think that's more than good 😅

[mighty fractal]

i think i could reach way more with more vms but since i'm on linux my "main" installation of salad is a vm and another vm would completely fill up any ram that i have left and completely destroy the change of playing games

and right now ram isn't that cheap

[gleaming shell]

yeah unfortunately lol, can only hope the customers for these testing workloads actually do stuff unlike the crap customers in the us that sign up for sgs then do nothing on it

[waxen pollen]

Ohh IK it isn't. I brought 128GBs of DDR5 ram a few months back that cost me £400, it's not going for £1500

I really want to get another 128Gbs to double my VMs

But that price though

[mighty fractal]

what's your current setup and isn't 128gbs of ram enough if a single vm requires 4gbs of ram?

[waxen pollen]

...

I have a ryzen 9 9950X and 128Gbs of ram

It's not a single VM LMAO

Just setup 8 more VMs

[mighty fractal]

how do you configure so many vms

it's been a pain for me

even with unattended setup

it becomes attended pretty fast

[waxen pollen]

Thats a trade secret

[waxen pollen]

why not unattended?

Should be setup and reap the rewards

[mighty fractal]

it often breaks for me, but i've only used virtualbox and vmware before the buyout

[waxen pollen]

with the odd daily checkin to make sure everythings running and thats just checking your dashboard for offline devices

[waxen pollen]

I'm running it off Proxmox with some issues, but not too regular.

Mind you i had to reinstall a VM yesterday due to it packing out on me and no longer starting up. But clones 4TW

[mighty fractal]

mhh thanks, but i would still like to use my pc for other applications but i only have 16gbs of ram of which 4 are already allocated to that one vm

[mighty fractal]

ohh right that's a great idea

[waxen pollen]

I don't wish to give too many trade secrets away (Because advantage lol) but custom OS's are a thing

Though can be a mind field

[visual grail]

Are custom OS really worth it though...?

[waxen pollen]

NO!! i've given too much away

[visual grail]

I heard people suggesting to stick to OG OS and just patch stuff

[visual grail]

Also you had a best month of BW sharing of 74 Terabytes?

Crazy my max is like 20-30 Tb 😭

[gleaming shell]

my max is like 3ish tb in a month 💀

[waxen pollen]

Ohh LOL, errrrm that was a few months ago when i had a handful of devices....... I have more now

[gleaming shell]

us bandwidth sucks

the customers suck

[visual grail]

I thought 3 bytes-

I seriously did 😭

[gleaming shell]

well it now is considering like theres 13 dead gateways 💀

(idek the exact amount anymore, theres so many bad gateways_

[waxen pollen]

I really shouldn't post what i made last month 😅😅 It would make you all hate me

All i'm gonna show lol

[visual grail]

Lmao 😭😭😭

[gleaming shell]

imagine this but earnapp didnt become abusive, could have been goated passive income setup 💀

[visual grail]

Tbh, nah it's all good man, I have seen people make 20-50$/day with many systems 😭

Bw + containers

[waxen pollen]

OMG i wish EA hadn't because scumbags. It with this would have been a really good living for those that can min/max

[visual grail]

If I made 50$/day, it'd be considered an ABSOLUTE amazing income source, and I could probably live my life out without even needing to worry of anything

[visual grail]

In my country atleast

[waxen pollen]

I've seen a handful of container chefs with many many many GPUs earning $1000s a month and there was me with just 1 4090 lol, i'm kinda like them with BW rn

[visual grail]

Imagine making 50$/day in Lebanon 💀

[visual grail]

Hold on, british?

[safe niche]

Same fr

[waxen pollen]

Yeah thats not enough for the UK, doing £80 a day would be considered about the bottom of the middle class in society

[waxen pollen]

I am indeed

[visual grail]

I KNEW IT 😭 Only the isles are blessed with that income!

[waxen pollen]

Yeah whats crazy though is before Salad, on any other BW app, the US was the highest and the UK traffic was pooooooooor. Got lucky with Salad

[visual grail]

India used to actually get almost nearly the same as UK, and seriously since a dollar can buy 90 rupees, which is basically almost a meal here for 1 time, we were making insane amounts of money, as far as I know, the folks around told me about Indian bandwidth as well, but now it's a drought as well, you earn decently good still though 1-3$/day

[visual grail]

British isles pulling all the legendary traffic 😭 via salad

I heard some people earned like 7-8$/day, which is seriously a lot, 50$ here is like an amazing luxury meal in a 5 star restaurant

[visual grail]

For a scale

[waxen pollen]

LOL Salad works differently to other BW apps. It's streaming content, not google scraping. So there for very regional specific

[visual grail]

Oh BBC..

I also heard people got a lot of traffic during Euros

Extremely lot afaik

[waxen pollen]

I've made that much on 4 devices before. Only happens when demande is super high though. Which isn't always. It's normally around $2/3

[visual grail]

If you don't mind, who is your isp?

[waxen pollen]

Sky, 5Gigs

[visual grail]

That must be a nightmare for 4 devices

[visual grail]

Classic choice

[waxen pollen]

what do you mean?

[visual grail]

For 4 devices, 2-3$/day only from bandwidth, and considering british electricity costs, that must be a nightmare to run

Unless you meant 2-3$/device for a day

[waxen pollen]

Used to be Virgin 1Gig down/100mbps up, but they haven't invested in FTTP as much as sky did when they partnered with city fibre. So Sky is now has the best speeds, they used to be somewhat the worste and for pricing

[visual grail]

A friend of mine uses sky as well, they said the same thing, although half the thing went over my mind lol

[waxen pollen]

Well BW doesn't pull as much power as containers do. Which is why i'm better off now than when i used to run my 4090. Which pulled upwards of 450W. BW pulls a consistent 240Ws with X amount of VMs.

I switched from BW + containers when i realised BW made more sense per GB of ram than using upwards of 128GBs with a 4090

[visual grail]

That really makes sense, hmm hmm

[waxen pollen]

nope, was 4/5 devices making at normal times $3 a day. Defo made more than it would cost in electric

[visual grail]

Must be low profile devices, clever idea though

[waxen pollen]

they were mini PCs, at idle draw 14W

[visual grail]

Lmao 😂 makes sense now

[waxen pollen]

and BW pretty much rans at idle for a single device

[visual grail]

That's immense profit tbh

[waxen pollen]

and you can figure out how many VMs i'm running rn using 14W X 240W either lol It's not even close

[waxen pollen]

theres extra costs though. Not just electric. Cost of the hardware (Which was a lot when i got it (Cost me around £1500 to £2000) and is a ridiculous amount now) plus cost of each having their own unique IP

[visual grail]

Not really cheap..

[waxen pollen]

Defo is not. Do wish i had gotten 256GBs and not the just 128 😭😭

If i had, i would be earning about mid or higher middle class earnings for the UK

Though i also don't want to spam the network with 1000s of VMs either. (just FYI, not even doing close to that lol)

Did with EA though, had 8K VMs running and 18K between 4 of us, till they shut us down doing not doing anything that was against their TOS 😡😡😡😡

[gleaming shell]

I still find it stupid how they ban vms
They already have anti multi-device-per-ip built in the app. And furthermore their stupid vibecoded dysfunctional GPU intensive GUI app can't last 4 seconds without killing itself, gotta have some fallback machine in that case

Wonder if they're trying to collect something from our physical machines if they're so strict on the vms

Though I doubt they are

[waxen pollen]

It's because they don't like people making money off them. As Vita loved saying, the app is ONLY!!!!!! for pocket change. Thats the reason

[gleaming shell]

💀

the only app that actively discourages their users from earning

get abused for a static pay per time and now you can't even run it on more machines, voluntarily

[waxen pollen]

I WILL NEVER!! and i say ever run EA EVER again.

[gleaming shell]

I'm only running earnapp as a filler for my salad earnings, along with honeygain

I would've been at limit and quit the app the day they announced the transition to pay-per-time

[waxen pollen]

Yeah HG can also go suck a nut too

They just ruin your IP score

Nope, not happening

[robust creek]

little better(?)

[gleaming shell]

wtf these mfs still havent gave me any updates on the fiber installation

time to yell at them through support 😔

or maybe because its been like 8F here for a while

[fossil onyx]

You can run as many VM as you can with same IP?

[gleaming shell]

and then the waiting game

[gleaming shell]

theoretically, only the # of gateways in your country

though, it seems like from mine and others experiences, there seems to be a limit on the total number of devices you can run on bandwidth sharing, even on different IPs

[fossil onyx]

How to know how many gateways in my country V

[gleaming shell]

Theres like 16ish? gateways in the us but i have only ever connected to 4 at most.

[gleaming shell]

what country do you live in?

[fossil onyx]

France

[gleaming shell]

salad doesnt publicly give out the gateway count unfortunately, so its to the community to track it lol

might be outdated but there seems to be 3 gateways in france. Im not sure if they are all abundant on jobs tho

I wouldnt recommend running a vm for bandwidth sharing if you only have a few gateways with jobs.
In my experience atleast, its more power efficient to use 2 low-power laptops than a centralized vm if your country doesnt have much good gateways

[fossil onyx]

At least my mini run 24/7 with avg of 2$/d

[gleaming shell]

though obviously you could go ahead and run a vm if you want something centralized

[fossil onyx]

I have a Nas where I can setup vms

Can I try to setup a VM aside my running Mini pc ?

[gleaming shell]

yeah

could be worth a shot

[fossil onyx]

Or is it the same if I have a second pc running ?

Or the second should be a VM ?

[gleaming shell]

it honestly really depends on power usage
is it more efficient to use a vm?

[fossil onyx]

I don’t want to broke my jobs on my mini pc

[gleaming shell]

in my experience a single vm can cause my cpu to draw some good power

so i only do it when theres a lot of gateways with jobs, as thats more efficient

[fossil onyx]

In any case it will affect badly my current setup ? Works well with decent earning

[gleaming shell]

it shouldnt

[fossil onyx]

Ok let me run a second pc this night will see tomorrow the result

Btw how is 1.9.8 ?

[gleaming shell]

i used to have 4 vms on my desktop

its honestly really just experimenting and trying out lol, since salad is kinda weird on job distribution

[gleaming shell]

no errors yet 🙏

[fossil onyx]

Thanks a lot for these precious highlights

[gleaming shell]

though if you only run salad for bandwidth sharing no need to bother updating

[fossil onyx]

Okay I only do bw sharing

No cpu or gpu good enough

[waxen pollen]

The official stance is one IP per device

And it's in the works to start enforcing that too 😩

[upbeat shuttle]

good thing nobody's invested hundreds to thousands of pounds in hardware for this

[robust creek]

(none of those are vms btw are my desktop and laptop, but same ip)

[waxen pollen]

Made it back already

True story

[gleaming shell]

turns out they cant bury it until the spring :(

either i can wait or i can get internet right now but deal with a fiber line looping across my yard until spring

[tidal bough]

should I try to get sgs on this “5G” connection

UK ip

lol I love how iOS just lies about being on 5g

[waxen pollen]

I don't believe thats fast enough for SGS

min is 30mbps

[robust creek]

i confirm that the 2 sgs running in my country are 2 different customers, the traffic is completely different

(checking the logs and stuff)

[fossil onyx]

Is Salad ok with WiFi or Ethernet only ?

[gleaming shell]

@waxen pollen lol these people cant even make it make sense
what im getting from this is "there is no limit to the amount of IP addreses you can use on earnapp, BUT you will get banned if you use a lot of ip addreses"

like wtf 💀

just say theres a limit on the ip addreses, why say theres no limit then proceed to ban users who use the "no limit" as promised?
having 6 million ip addreses but only allowed to use 20-30 before you get banned sure as hell is a limit

anyways enough earnapp talk

[fossil onyx]

Btw this doesn’t earn much

[waxen pollen]

It's because they hate farms, the app isn't for ANYONE to make a living from. They don't want you to.

It's a joke, like fudge off. If someone legitimately makes money from your company, providing you with the very thing your looking for, with fair restrictions like don't spam a single location with 100s or 1000s of devices (Which is fair, i'll give them that) and 1 or a max of X devices per IP, then what exactly is so wrong with that.

[ornate wharf]

i have to disable cpu thing so bandwidh can work?

[misty furnace]

nah, bandwidth sharing works completely separately and is not influenced by cpu/gpu workloads apart from the internet usage

[robust creek]

People from my same country, is traffic as dead as this to you too?🤔

[mighty fractal]

i think that was the case a looong time ago

[misty furnace]

it's still not influenced by other workloads. the cpu/ram usage is negligible. it doesn't even show up as "running a job" when it's active

[mighty fractal]

like at the start, when it was a beta feature

i remember that people would disable the cpu as soon as they had got bw

[misty furnace]

cpu mining used to interfere, but that was fixed a long time ago

[mighty fractal]

yes i know

[tidal bough]

bandwidth is saturating the whole wifi channel lol
my wifi is now unusable

estimated $1.4/hour

[visual snow]

is bandwidth sharing technically just hosting a vpn

technically

[visual snow]

ur joking ;-;

[upbeat shuttle]

yea

[visual snow]

400Mb/s should be aight for bw sharing right?

sad that its currently not using any of the wifi bw at all, at most 2MB/s not mbps

wait maybe not its actually using around 15, but im just not getting much money per hour, prolly cuz singaproe

[visual snow]

where do you live, genuinely

which country

[waxen pollen]

Yes, that's more than enough. 15mbps is the min with some clients requiring a higher min for their jobs.

[robust creek]

In my country if you dont have 100mbps upload the sgs will never start

[ornate wharf]

How much earning can we expect with bw..for eg im from India has a good internet speed 100 up down

[upbeat shuttle]

idk try it and see

bandwidth sharing earnings are impossible to predict

you could earn nothing, or 20c a day, or up to like $1 a day

[robust creek]

Finally is back 😢 📈

[waxen pollen]

you know it spikes in demand every day right before dropping. It's just what it does. It's not constant

[robust creek]

Yesterday it did not get such high spyke, i was literally earning less and less from 4 days

[waxen pollen]

up and downs are different day to day

[robust creek]

The spyke is green today, is the new sgs, the old sgs is rare that has the spykes

[waxen pollen]

Thats a months view and 30 spikes

[waxen pollen]

That's likely because the gateway was switched

[robust creek]

Nope its the same

I see it on glasswire

[waxen pollen]

and it's still the same gateways in the log folder, not just in glasswire?

probs just jobs switched between providers. It's still never constant. It's peaks around the same time daily befor dropping off till the same time the day after.

I see it all the time

Always peaks at 8/9pm in the UK

will be the same for you when ever your regions peak time is

[robust creek]

Yes

[waxen pollen]

well it does that, but again. It peaks at certain times a day every day. It's how SGS demand works

[robust creek]

Rip power went away because of road works..

[ornate wharf]

Is there any way to know my earings are from bw or from ai job

[steady fjord]

ye I got 100mbps on work. Its been running since 40 days. If you run your machine 24/7, you will always and always get above a dollar in a day. It is usually 2.4$/day.

[ornate wharf]

ur from ?

[steady fjord]

India

[ornate wharf]

okayyy

[waxen pollen]

if it's BW it'll still say looking for a job. A container job will trigger the app and change it to activily running a job. But if your talking about if you are earning from both at the same time. Then currently there isn't.

Only way to really tell is if SGS is active in taskmanager or an app like glasswire

[fossil onyx]

No job since 4 hours. Are you impacted by the issue too ?

[waxen pollen]

location helps 😅

[fossil onyx]

France

[civic tusk]

don't ask me how but using a VPN is actually making me more than just using my ISP. and not like in a country overseas, but in a residential city near my actual location.

I am making 0.00 (50) cents at best with VPN

none without a vpn

talk about jank

i was making lots of cents without a vpn, but then the cents dropped to hundredths of a cent literally overnight

and when i shut my vpn off, my earnings shut off as well

i'll get a screenshot in a bit to show proof but yeah, very odd considering that reports from many people here say that vpns don't help earnings

[waxen pollen]

Thats because SGS is SUUUUUPER sensitive to internet interuptions and likely causes you to be assigned a different gateway. (Depending on how many your region has and how many of them are dead gateways)

[civic tusk]

i guess it makes sense considering the US situation involving SGS gateways

[waxen pollen]

It could also be that your residential IP has a bad reputation score. You can use sites like whatsmyipscore to check these.

[waxen pollen]

Ohh US has 16 gateways and only what, 1 maybe 2 of those actually ever get traffic

[civic tusk]

must be a new reputation score. it happened like 2 weeks ago

[waxen pollen]

it could have been bad or it could have been flagged depending on what you have been doing on it. Or it could be fine

Sorry, you can check with this site https://www.ipqualityscore.com/ip-reputation-check

[civic tusk]

says fraud score of 0

[waxen pollen]

ok so not that then

could be just the gateway that has been asigned to you. It does have a habit of switching and with the US having so many dead gateways

you have a 1 in 16 or 2 in 16 chance of actually getting a gateway that has traffic so

[civic tusk]

wish i could center in exactly on the gateway, then I could get a better connection to what place its at

[waxen pollen]

you can do that in the salae logs

As you can see i've connected to 5 gateways

[civic tusk]

what line of logs am I looking for?

[waxen pollen]

C:\ProgramData\Salad\Logs

[civic tusk]

i'm in there but what do I search for? there's thousands of lines

[waxen pollen]

It's the folders, not the logs

the NDM folder shows your shitspeed speed test info too

[civic tusk]

folders havent been updated since january 29

[waxen pollen]

so you've been on the same gateway since 29.1.2026 then

[civic tusk]

nvm 27 january was last time

[waxen pollen]

So it didn't change, even though you've been turning a VPN on and off. Interesting

[gleaming shell]

yep, dead gateway abundance 😔

[waxen pollen]

and there they are ahaha, was wondering how long it would take you to pipe up 😜

[gleaming shell]

nah i just got home lol

[waxen pollen]

as the US was mentioned lol

[civic tusk]

and their new sgs tunnel feels like it's never gonna release lol

[gleaming shell]

yeah theres 2 gateways both with a 48 cent static pay though, so its better than nothing

i really hope these 2 gateways dont screw up like all the other 50 ones here

[civic tusk]

true, wish I could know their server location so I could just plop my vpn next to them

[waxen pollen]

I just wish they would shut dead gateways down after X amount of time of having 0 data being sent through it instead of leaving them up 😡

[civic tusk]

yeah, feels like it's wasting money on their part too

[waxen pollen]

I don't think thats how that works

[civic tusk]

you'd think a company that isn't making a lot of money would cut costs like those

[gleaming shell]

unfortunately salads sgs gateway distribution probably wouldnt make that worth, as its really rng :(
I live in the midwest US, and gateway selection is just very sporatic. it would choose servers on the coast

and theres 2 us gateways that are in canada, and 3 in the uk

[civic tusk]

just gonna run fastest location on my vpn then

[waxen pollen]

Yeah i run 4 devices just to make sure one is connected to the UKs highest traffic gateway at any one time. Though 2 tend to have more traffic than the other 3

[civic tusk]

we'll see if anything picks up but yeah it is what it is

[gleaming shell]

exactly

the customers are wasting money keeping a gateway up that they arent even going to use, and chefs are just curning electricity running dead gateways and nobody benefits

[waxen pollen]

It;s due to each one of them being set up for a different streaming servies. Though they have also said that more than 1 provider can use the same gateway. sooooooo

[waxen pollen]

The SGS team have said they do plan to revamp the model, but it's when they will be given the priority to do that. Could be years at this point

[civic tusk]

something tells me the SGS team isn't a specialized team on SGS but more so just R&D on bunch of things not just SGS related

[waxen pollen]

They do have a few core members

EK is one of them

I've been talking to them about the limit of SGS devices that can connect to a single account recently

among other things related to SGS 😅

[fossil onyx]

Only one gateway for me

[civic tusk]

next vacation i should bring all the laptops I can and run sgs on them. though not sure how many SGS are in greece

probably not many lol

[waxen pollen]

lucky, but try connecting more than 10 SGS devices to a single account, each with their own IP and see how many actually connect, against how many do not at the same time

[fossil onyx]

I need to try in a friend house

[waxen pollen]

UK has 5 and 2 of them are always dead with one most of the time and the US has 14 dead gateways

Really hope they find and fix that bug

[fossil onyx]

I tried two machine at home , here is the result

[waxen pollen]

yep, we thought it was limited by the amount of gateways your region had, but we had some saying they had one or 2 more than their region max gateways so it was back to guessing what the limit or cause was.

Officially there is no limit, so it's a bug

[robust creek]

300 sgs gateways

[upbeat shuttle]

if this is based off the gateways that are listed in the pinned posts, i haven't updated that list in a while so there have defo been more gateways added since then

?remindme 13h update sgs gateways list

[chilly hamlet]

I'll remind you on Feb 03, 2026 06:15, update sgs gateways list

[upbeat shuttle]

I just use a subdomain crawler/searcher website and agonisingly cross compare between it and the current list

no idea how i handled dead gateways though

[waxen pollen]

Sorry are you talking about the US gateways?

I'm a little confused as that comment wasn't what i was talking about.

I mean the replied to comment 😅

I mean talking about what this limit/bug was, how/why it was being limited too

And every suspected cause has come up wrong and what the limit was

I used to only be able to get 5 devices connected to a single account, but now only 4 will connect. But a friend who's also in the UK has 5 connected sooooooo

It's just confusing

[upbeat shuttle]

i try not to think too much about it

[upbeat shuttle]

i didn't read any of the messages above, idk it might not be relevant but it reminded me i should probably update the pinned posts again

[waxen pollen]

Ohh thats fair then. Ik i did mention about the amount of gateways and dead gateways. Just wasn't sure if you were in fact talking about them or i was just was missing something 😅

[waxen pollen]

Yeah, i just want it to be fixed so i can consolidate my devices. So anything i can think of i've been talking to EK about.

As there unsure about why it's happening too

[upbeat shuttle]

I've just assumed that it was intentional behaviour the entire time lol