Bandwidth Sharing FAQs + Troubleshooting

[robust creek]

the fact that salad does some datascraping is what i've told already but everyone attacked me saying i was wrong

[topaz dagger]

double trouble 😭

why is bw like this :(

[misty furnace]

silly

[fast marsh]

Austria (Not Australia)

[robust creek]

from when austria has sgs

[tardy swan]

This website is bullshit

I had a high 70 when not logged in

[misty furnace]

yeah I used a netflix server ip to test it and got 97

[shrewd terrace]

hmm maybe you should ask chatgpt what a ipv6 is

[misty furnace]

mhm

thanks for the ip btw

[proper nova]

that website is misleading, i do not recommend it

[misty furnace]

you’re redundant

[fast marsh]

There are so many IPv6 addresses that you can't pin point abuse to a single IP

[proper nova]

there exists two of me so that if one fails the other can take over

redundancy is important in enterprise

[hollow vortex]

Ez

[hollow vortex]

Gimmie ur ipv6 🙂

[fast marsh]

2606:4700:4700::1111

[misty furnace]

nuh uh. that’s 1.1.1.1

[north steppe]

Nearing a month now 😔 even though 24 7 uptime and very high up and download

Idk if it's me doing something wrong or if I'm just unlucky in the Netherlands

[misty furnace]

probably a country issue, not anything you did wrong

[hollow vortex]

lol cloudflare , city: " San Francisco

[peak terrace]

i had sgs until yesterday when i rebooted my pc

[pulsar arrow]

🤯

[gleaming shell]

:Exploding head:

_

[fast marsh]

[fast marsh]

My ISP doesn't support IPv6 yet

[hollow vortex]

you seeeeeee + is back to US ! hello 10$ lol

[gleaming shell]

Nice

[gleaming shell]

NO WAY SGS ON SHIT PENTIUM LAPTOP AGAIN

its got no jobs tho

[upbeat shuttle]

US integer

[gleaming shell]

and yes apparently new gateway?

[gleaming shell]

Atleast I didn't get dandelion

[misty furnace]

noway

time to note it

[gleaming shell]

actually atleast the gateway even works to begin with

[gleaming shell]

ye new gatewya

dosent seem to have any jobs rn tho

[misty furnace]

mk

wait marigold used to be uk

alright it’s noted that it changed to a us gateway

[gleaming shell]

its not in the us but i guess its a us gateway now

[misty furnace]

@upbeat shuttle please update the gateway list to move marigold to us

[gleaming shell]

you woke her up

[upbeat shuttle]

?remindme 12h pins

[glacial fox]

I'll remind you on Apr 03, 2024 05:22, pins

[misty furnace]

whoops

[gleaming shell]

(idk ozua s timezone)

[short junco]

yh 5:22 am is crazy

[rocky orbit]

Hey, are you a marigold?
Cuz you look beautiful

😊

[gleaming shell]

e

[misty furnace]

-2

[robust creek]

welcome to italy, static pay 24/7

[latent breach]

If I keep using 1.4.4, will I get BW jobs?

[hollow vortex]

you got a UK sgs ? lol check ur ip, its probably a hiccup

[upbeat shuttle]

yeah

even 1.3.something still works for bandwidth sharing

since there really haven't been any updates to it, other than new countries being supported

[latent breach]

Thanks for the information

[proper nova]

no sgs in a day

sobbing

[short junco]

no sgs EVER

https://tenor.com/view/azad-gif-8209328749288042945

[proper nova]

imagine

[desert pier]

sad

[misty furnace]

it’s a us gateway now. SGS-US-INT

[rocky orbit]

US integer

[misty furnace]

there’s also US-z-e

not sure what gateway it is tho

[rocky orbit]

Zebra Elastic

Zedd Edison

[proper nova]

zee Edison

[waxen pollen]

and yet . . .

What other stuff are you using?

[misty furnace]

they were using ipqs without an account to check their score

ipqs is bad about reporting high numbers unless you pay

yeah ipqs shows this lmao

[waxen pollen]

I don't pay, just have an account on there

[misty furnace]

mk

[waxen pollen]

you get 5k reports a month on a free account

[misty furnace]

I think I'm fine, no blocklists

[robust creek]

clean

[proper nova]

this website is number 1 bullshit guy

he goes weewooweewoo for no reason

[misty furnace]

lmao

[shrewd terrace]

my ip score is kinda high because of this idiot reporting my ip and many others for no reason

[clever hollow]

super unlucky

[rocky orbit]

As long as you don't have blocklist on like 10-15 servers

You're fine

[desert pier]

yes

i think i pay £20-25 for 150 up and 25-30 down

just boardband

why is this bad then ...

what provider

thats not bad for phone idk about boardband

have you got a bw job jet ?

dang

are you earning rn

how long has it been

same

have you check your logs ?

salad logs

the log

show logs click on that

it will take you here

the latest log with the numbers

ie log -27348393874

you want to look for the latest of this

Running State: true
2024-04-04 11:36:55.031 +01:00 [INF] WatchOrchestrationEvents: 69 sent request
2024-04-04 11:36:55.132 +01:00 [INF] Received HTTP response headers after 150.184ms - 200
2024-04-04 11:36:55.140 +01:00 [INF] End processing HTTP request after 181.5481ms - 200
2024-04-04 11:36:55.145 +01:00 [INF] Start processing HTTP request GET https://app-api.salad.com/api/v2/bonuses/earning-rate
2024-04-04 11:36:55.149 +01:00 [INF] Sending HTTP request GET https://app-api.salad.com/api/v2/bonuses/earning-rate
2024-04-04 11:36:55.167 +01:00 [INF] WatchOrchestrationEvents: 71 received response Workloads
2024-04-04 11:36:55.174 +01:00 [INF] OrchestrationEvent: Workloads
2024-04-04 11:36:55.178 +01:00 [INF] Workloads Received:
2024-04-04 11:36:55.181 +01:00 [INF] Cancelling 0 unapproved workloads:

where is says workloads received

i have none

so im waiting still

yeh

look 2024-04-04 11:37:49.466 +01:00 [INF] Workloads Received:
this line is empty

and there is no workload id after it

what do you mean

yeh same

that means you are still waiting

yeh

in case you get lucky

how much gb of ram do you have

what gpu

[desert pier]

k

try restarting your pc so it does this again

and dont click on anything for 2 mins

when it starts

[waxen pollen]

Have been for me, I pay £42 a month for 1GB download and 100MB upload

first payout was April last year

Not sure what i had on my OG account. But used to earn a lot more than i do now

[proper nova]

community fibre charges like £32/mo for symmetrical gigabit

but they also piggyback off of other ISPs so have double NAT

so no port forwarding or uPnP

yes

[waxen pollen]

I can't get true fibre just yet. It was meant to be available in Feb though

Id have both 😄 I have 2 mini PCs and my main

Id likely get another mini PC as i like to see what my expected earnings are with my 4090

[proper nova]

i have 7 machines

main pc and a cluster of optiplexes

[waxen pollen]

mini PCs are cheap, i only have them as i have access to the house broadband. I live in a shared house and have my own too

only cost me £108

well, it is lol

I have both the mini PCs setup for BW and my main PC with a 4090 doing container jobs

BW jobs in the UK are not as good as they used to be though

i remembers when i used to earn at best $12 a day and normally around $6 to $8

used to make over $300 a month

but then it tanked 😅

just BW

i wasn't running my GPU due to the power requirements, but now they have low power VRam jobs, that use up like 20odd watts

Although, if there non of those jobs, the power output would be unsustainable here in the UK Electric costs too much

hope so

[waxen pollen]

also current, lowest, highest and average

and as you can see in my name, the best BW month i've ever had was 33TBs

Last month i got 17TBs

a crazy difference

and that was a recent good month

I can't wait till i can get true fibre broadband

[desert pier]

how much do you make now

[desert pier]

nice

[waxen pollen]

but thats with GPU containers now too

[desert pier]

oh

what gpu

[waxen pollen]

only getting at most (recently) around $2 from BW

[waxen pollen]

4090

[desert pier]

mmh i think there is alot of chefs right now so there is alot of people and low demand

i remmeber making £12 a day in th world cup

i once made £1 in one hour

only some areas

[waxen pollen]

yeah that

[desert pier]

i have virgin

150 up and 30 down

[waxen pollen]

yeah, right after it tanked. But i've been with salad for months and month before that and was getting the same earnings.

[desert pier]

i reinstalle d it idk why

[waxen pollen]

true fibre is to the house, not to the local box as virgin does it

yeah i can't complain, though i do when i'm getting high power cost jobs as it's painful to watch 😄

[desert pier]

true

[waxen pollen]

plus virgin has the best speeds for non true fibre, but with true fibre you can get 1 up and 1 down and salad requires upload

[desert pier]

100% true

[desert pier]

or you can go for 3 ulmited phone sim and get a wifi sim card router

as 3 is truely unlimted

they have no data caps

[waxen pollen]

yeah but they cost a LOT!!

unlim sims

[desert pier]

but there data is fluctuating

[waxen pollen]

that must cost so much

whats the upload though?

[frigid reef]

Not true :3

Pretty sure you can get a tiny bit higher speeds with bt

[waxen pollen]

ohh wait, yeah thats changed recently. But i also can't get BT speeds here in Plymouth

[frigid reef]

L

[waxen pollen]

i can't get true fibre here either yet

[frigid reef]

Neither

[waxen pollen]

it's meant to be available soon, they are installing it in plymouth now . . . somewhere 🤣

not true fibre

[frigid reef]

Fibre to the box, coax to the house

[waxen pollen]

though i'm sure they are doing something about it. As they build there own infrastructure, unlike some of the other providers in the UK

yeah which is why they were the best for years

always had the best speeds, unlike BT, sky that used to have a fraction of it. That has changed recently though. Unsure how, must be agreements with the companies that have been building the actual fibre infrastructure

over all i've had a good experience with Virgin, it's not been perfect by any means. But

[desert pier]

same

[waxen pollen]

when i get access to FTTP (fibre to the premises) i will be getting that, id have access to 3 broadbands then 😄 But i may wait till i've moved to Scotland, unless id be able to transfer the broadband to a different property

it's colder

i start to struggle after 20c and the UK has been getting HOT recently later in the summer months

heat waves of upto 40c, wild fires

it reached 38c in my room last summer

plus that and i love the rain and it rains a lot up in Scotland

and i've just wanted to move up there for many many years now

https://tenor.com/view/edgerunners-rebbeca-like-gif-26802754

ta

[upbeat shuttle]

oof I pay £35 for gigabit up/down 😇

[waxen pollen]

yeah i have to wait till i can get FTTP broadband, it is cheaper too. Mines was £42 with a lot of discounts added, due to loyal customer and actually calling them and being put through to a team that could add extra discounts 😄

[upbeat shuttle]

hehh

I just cancelled my old ISP's plan, they wanted to charge like £48 for 150 down 🥶

[topaz dagger]

i pay £45 for 900down 150 up bruh

[upbeat shuttle]

🥶

[waxen pollen]

who was that with?

£42 for 1gb up and 100mb down isn't bad, not the best that you can get for the last year, though that depends on where you are and if you have access to FTTP, else it was the best

More so when the normal price for it was £62 a month

[hollow vortex]

Why salad runnin libspeed like 5x in a row?

[waxen pollen]

who dares ping me 😄

[waxen pollen]

i never wifi for salad, always go ethernet

but it should have the same benefits, just not as stable

would have higher ping too

[topaz dagger]

BW been soooo good lately

i love salad

[misty furnace]

is that an isp or are you saying gigabit

[topaz dagger]

i dont have giganet

i have vodaphone 💀

isp doesnt rlly matter

apart from price of internet

[misty furnace]

AT&T here in the US (with a $6.50 gpu container)

[topaz dagger]

damn

nice

[hollow vortex]

it dont, as long as you have good up/down speeds.

and a decent ping.

[misty furnace]

it does matter in some situations. some ISPs use something called CGNAT and you share the same ip with several other customers at that isp, which can cause some issues

[waxen pollen]

SHAME!! SHAAAAME 😜

[latent breach]

I pay $7 for 80 mbps up/down

[clever hollow]

real

[latent breach]

$1 = ₹83

[clever hollow]

jaguar

lel

[latent breach]

That's some kind of fancy names...you know...

[latent breach]

Back to normal!

[topaz dagger]

Back to normal!

[robust creek]

what another update?? no please no come on...

[misty furnace]

[robust creek]

the app still hasn't updated itself but i know it will..

[topaz dagger]

yh 😭

[topaz dagger]

my mum shut my pc off 😔

[civic fern]

f

[topaz dagger]

not really

well for salad it might be a decent amount but in general its not

mine is rlly inconsistent too

[robust creek]

exchange with me then if you're not happy with what you get

what i earn with salad in a whole week could be earned with one survey that takes 15 minutes

yesterday i did a 1 hour survey and got paid 6£ for it, with those money i spit in the face of salad

[radiant crow]

is it only me that doesn't get sgs-client.exe to lunch to day or do you have problem to?

[olive sedge]

Same...

[jovial fiber]

why you use salad then ;-;;;

[robust creek]

as i said i was giving salad a second chance because i see a little potential but it's wasted

[topaz dagger]

okay

lets exchange

[robust creek]

enjoy static pay 24/7 and rarely some traffic

[topaz dagger]

😔

it is what it is

[robust creek]

you will get 9999999999$ a day soon

[jovial fiber]

it has been a month lol

[robust creek]

and i confirm its trash earning xd

[dense karma]

bro got my genetics tbh XD

[latent breach]

Sgs sometimes may take days to show up, there's nothing to do rather than waiting...

[shrewd bay]

Wild

[topaz dagger]

i also restarted my pc without turning salad off 😭

[latent breach]

when my laptop battery decided to die

[gleaming shell]

is anyone getting jobs on the new us gateway

also i ruined a 2 day long dead chat

[hollow vortex]

not yet, is it dead?

[gleaming shell]

i have the new gateway on my other laptop, but its been jobless for days

maybe new gateways just have little to no jobs idk

[hollow vortex]

*waits for storage sharing

[misty furnace]

at least it doesn’t error out like dandelion and crocus

[gleaming shell]

yeah atleast no jobs is better than no connection

[latent breach]

sgs at its absolute worst

[white knot]

more like 4 months in my case

[white knot]

^ 2/3 of ur time now

[reef linden]

AU and JP??

[white knot]

yes both

au one was accidental

but

i managed 2 get it 3-4times since the release of sgs

and this is what the libshit gives me

u literally have a fkin server in tokyo but instead of testing my network locally u give a fkin server dat is almost a quarter of the earth's equator distance away from here

wait, there's more!

[latent breach]

The US and the Japan has such a strong connection since last century!☠️

[white knot]

u might have known dat in the past (b4 dec 2023), we had most of the time tested from riverside's server with decent ping and dats what it is now

[white knot]

and ur telling me this is strong

the image: am i joke 2 u?

[latent breach]

Relax bro, cool down.

You CAN get sgs with even 200mx ping

[white knot]

i dont think so?

dat just almost not gonna happen

i still kept my temper even tho i lost sgs for 4 months

[white knot]

ping pls

[latent breach]

204ms

[white knot]

dats the same result as u and yet

4 fkin months

[latent breach]

Maybe because of difference of country

I also waited 2 days to get sgs

[white knot]

🥱

back in the day

i waited a week max for one

3-4 days avg

within 24hrs by luck

[latent breach]

I kept my system on for the last whole night only to earn 5 cents

[white knot]

bro at least u got it but i dont

and here has much higher traffic tho

demand i meant

lower than uk ofc

[white knot]

and yes dats also my avg ping back in the day

[latent breach]

Probably, who knows!

But, yeah, your Tokyo is one of the mostly densed city - I read the other day.

[white knot]

idk how u manage 2 get it with 204ms but yeah simply not in my case

[latent breach]

Mine connectes with Singapore

If that was in my country I could have got way low ping

[white knot]

ofc

conclusion: there's no conclusion innit

umm nvm

i take back everthing i just said

fine

i guess my 4 months of madness has come 2 an end

so ping rlly doesn't matter now

but dat would mean u never know when would it come out'

[latent breach]

It's really that uncertain

[gleaming shell]

Average libreshit experience

[white knot]

haah yeah

[gleaming shell]

i dont think there is a single libreshit server that maxes out my internet speeds

well atlanta sometimes maxes out my download but never my upload

but most of the times it dosent even try uploading

[misty furnace]

Atlanta maxes out download and gets to about 70% on upload. mainly because it’s not too far away

[gleaming shell]

i just have to get lucky

[misty furnace]

yeah i’m getting speeds of 940mbps down and 650mbps up

[gleaming shell]

i get like 490/250 on a good day

but i mainly get like 200/40

[topaz dagger]

DAMN

i got 900/100 😭

[shrewd bay]

Is that not gonna be risky for salad tho

[hollow vortex]

Isn't anything risky online?

[shrewd bay]

If I use ur SSD as a cloud storage service

Imagine if u took the SSD out

Where would my data go

[hollow vortex]

Besides, if they do it, Anyone that has info on there hard drive wont even be able to make sense of it, cause what youd do is split the file into pieces - and send it off to i.e 50 nodes - Customer request there info - Takes all 50 chunks - sends back to customer . So even if you try to decrypt the data it wont make any sense to you cause your not going to have the complete file

[shrewd bay]

If one node goes down. My files corrupt

[hollow vortex]

No - cause you wont really need all 50 - ie 20 are back up chunks of that file

So all 20 would have to be down

And not only that - Its accounted for prior to hardware issues . and having corrupt files - thats why there is a file verification done on a regular base .

[hollow vortex]

You wouldnt want to use a SSD , you'd want to use a enterprize HDD its not about the write speed or read speed. its about storing the file

I used my SSD for storage sharing - took a huge kill on that !

[upbeat shuttle]

There'd be redundancy

Just to clarify, it'd work more like how RAID works, so any node would be able to go down and you'd suffer no data loss, and be able to rebuild the missing data from the other nodes

But this is assuming Salad takes this approach, which I feel like they won't. I think it'd be more like a CDN

[hollow vortex]

ew, however that'd be so much easier.

[upbeat shuttle]

Yeah

[hollow vortex]

And only thing that will suck for some ppl is they wont be able to , cause they don't have x amount of uptime

Only thing i hate about storji is there is a 6 month vetting period , that is only crap part about them.

[upbeat shuttle]

Salad could probably figure that part out

This idea is pretty much like torrenting

Which probably has stuff in place for seeders suddenly going offline, and watches for file integrity (I hope)

How they'd market this new product would probably be somewhere between SGS and SCE, because we'd wanna be paid for our bandwidth being used, but it also needs (or at least it'd be preferable to have) an isolated environment to store its files, even if they're encrypted and fragmented across many nodes

[hollow vortex]

all i know is - if you have HDD failure, transferring anything like 18 GB is a longful week hoping nothing fails ! lmao

[shrewd bay]

how much would they even pay us though?

[upbeat shuttle]

Pay could be split into a couple different sources, like a static uptime pay, pay per gb*, pay per amount of storage used

[hollow vortex]

Storj pays for GB and Bandwidth - instances , it wouldn't pay for 1gb of storage, you would need 10GB or 18GB or storage and you'll be lucky to see 20$ a month more, less it depends on how often your node get used, and is it full , etc. Your not paid for uptime, If you dont have 98% uptime you disqualifed to be a node .

[subtle condor]

me when the containers use more bandwidth than bandwidth sharing 🙂 👍

lmao

[misty furnace]

so true

[subtle condor]

shits used like 900gb

mad

[latent breach]

BTW, what is SCE?

[misty furnace]

Salad Container Environment

[merry raft]

salad bw is unfair

upload speed is 10+

and download is 100+

[misty furnace]

that’s librespeed for ya

[merry raft]

sgs-client

[topaz dagger]

salad killed itself and then said it was blocked by AV after like 4 days of consecutively running salad

[subtle condor]

Restart Salad Bowl Service in task manager

[latent breach]

For a minute it's connected to the interent, the next minute it isn't. Even thoough the interent connection is working fine. Says "Cannot dial websocket". Any solution @misty furnace

[hollow vortex]

Don't pay attention to logs so much , they are almost gibberish to the avg person. They are more for the dev. Team. It could be a hiccup , they do happen with Sgs. If you see a complete day full of nothing but errors then you #official-support .

[misty furnace]

look at the first line and tell me which gateway it is

it will say sometjing like “sgs-flower_name-gateway.salad.com”

[latent breach]

I jus exited Salad to kill that sgs

[misty furnace]

if you still have that log file, let me know

[latent breach]

Sure, it was connected to henna
"sgs-henna-gateway.salad.com:443"

[misty furnace]

alright thakns

[misty furnace]

I have a spreadsheet of the gateways and which ones have issues or aren’t pingable

[latent breach]

So the orange ones are having toubles, isn't it?

[misty furnace]

I marked yours as orange because I am not sure if it’s broken or something on your end

[latent breach]

I see

[latent breach]

I'm currently connected to athelas & it's working fine'

[misty furnace]

yep, athelas is marked as ok

[civic fern]

italy gateways? they're alive?

[misty furnace]

they can be pinged. that doesn’t mean they work

[civic fern]

right

[subtle condor]

were you the guy talking about this in Salad's livestream chat lmao

[misty furnace]

prob

[robust creek]

don't complain

[jovial fiber]

lmao don't complain i'm dying

[robust creek]

when sgs comes back to him he will earn 4$ a day, for me instead there is no chance at all

[jovial fiber]

;-;

[merry raft]

BRO

why i am not getting

sgs-client

download is 200+ and upload is 10+

[misty furnace]

10 is the bare minumum. I think librespeed is measuring it lower though

[merry raft]

yes it is 10+

never get

[misty furnace]

use the powershell command pinned in this channel to see your speed

[merry raft]

Get-Content (Get-ChildItem C:\ProgramData\Salad\logs\ndm | Sort-Object LastWriteTime | Select-Object -last 1).FullName | Select-String "rate:|Ping:"
this?

ok

[misty furnace]

ye

[merry raft]

dont work

[misty furnace]

powershell

not cmd

[merry raft]

i was thinking it is same

[misty furnace]

powershell is newer and has more features

[merry raft]

2024-04-13 18:46:12.120 +05:30 [INF] Ping: 162 ms       Jitter: 2 ms
2024-04-13 18:46:27.725 +05:30 [INF] Download rate:     191.61 Mbps
2024-04-13 18:46:43.369 +05:30 [INF] Upload rate:       10.26 Mbps


PS C:\Users\user>```

[merry raft]

yes

[misty furnace]

ok, you barely meet the requirements. I wouldn’t be surprised if you never get sgs

[merry raft]

0_0

no but some months before i got

sgs

[misty furnace]

probably lower supply of nodes (salad users)

now there are options with higher speeds

[safe loom]

that passes requirements

there’s just low demand

my tests used to be 350 down 4.5 up

i still got jobs

aslong as they’re 10/10 it’s purely luck of demand

[latent breach]

Earlier sgs used to pay somewhat around ₹1 per every 2 GB internet shared ($1=₹83, calculate it yourself).
But, from 11.04.24, I noticed a decrease in the payout (about 20% less than what I have mentioned above).
Anything you people have noticed?
@topaz dagger @misty furnace

[frigid reef]

We have no idea the way salad charges clients and if their $ per gb stays the same 👍

though it most likely dosent

and we have no clue on what client you will be sharing the bw too and each one could pay diffrent $ per gb, its just unknown

[upbeat shuttle]

dosent
too
diffrent

[frigid reef]

i honestly dont care and you know this

[upbeat shuttle]

I know :)

[misty furnace]

from what I’ve noticed, higher speed bandwidth jobs pay more per gb than lower speeds, but it could be just me measuring wrong

[frigid reef]

could also just be different clients

[hollow vortex]

us bw only pays .004/.005 per GB speed unrelated.

[safe loom]

i’m sure you know tin can

i believe you have it all figured out

[bleak shale]

I got fiber optic, are my earnings gonna skyrocket 🚀 🤑

or am I gonna be disappointed with 1 more dollar a day (jk)

[misty furnace]

good luck

[bleak shale]

do you think my provider is gonna charge me extra or do you think they gonna think im scheming

on my old provider they charged me a $100 extra

so i switched lol

[misty furnace]

it depends on the provider. do you have a data cap at this one?

[bleak shale]

I dont think so

[robust creek]

i have gigabit connection

👍

[upbeat shuttle]

did you not read your new ISP's TOS..?

[bleak shale]

nah I kinda just bought it

[peak terrace]

i saw

[hollow vortex]

That's not all bandwidth tho, thats 90% containers/mining

[misty furnace]

$6.50 container, about $2 bw

[peak terrace]

speak of the devil

and i accidentally deleted my message how fun

[misty furnace]

better than nothing ig

[upbeat shuttle]

which gateway you got?

idk the actual url names, I mean the folder name

[gleaming shell]

better than us int

actually that looks like no jobs tho

[peak terrace]

rose 2

uk-xp-2

[peak terrace]

it is idle traffic

[gleaming shell]

same here on the other us gateway

[peak terrace]

imagine getting 21fps in notepad

[gleaming shell]

yes

[misty furnace]

that’s his 1% highs for fps

[upbeat shuttle]

oh that one's alright

[latent breach]

How many $s did you print till now?

[peak terrace]

we are bandwidthing

[misty furnace]

nice

[peak terrace]

No longer bandwidthing because my pc reset itself again

[frigid reef]

L

[topaz dagger]

all i did was turn my pc off for 2 mins 😭

[upbeat shuttle]

yeah that's how it goes

[topaz dagger]

😭

[misty furnace]

banger

[gleaming shell]

I get consistent jobs but earnings are ass

[topaz dagger]

fr

[topaz dagger]

my shit is INCONSISTENT AF

and if i turn salad off just one time

after a month

i get like no earnings

for like 5 days minimum

[gleaming shell]

average bandwidth experience

]

[shrewd terrace]

i dont know if i can call this consistent

[gleaming shell]

heres mine

[gleaming shell]

Actually yeah that one time my laptop died and I did not see SGS client for a whole month

Whoops forgot to disable reply ping

Was earning nothing that whole month

[tardy swan]

🙂

not worth running salad with these new features

[topaz dagger]

Nah its fine. Pings are the only way I'll check the msg

[gleaming shell]

ah assumed you were asleep

[topaz dagger]

I was but I'm always on dnd when i sleep

[topaz dagger]

bw is back!

[peak terrace]

i want my sgs back

lost it because my pc rebooted

[civic fern]

NAAAAH WTF

[civic fern]

After 10 months?

[gleaming shell]

average salad experience

10 months no sgs

[peak terrace]

lmfao

[white knot]

ummmm...

dk what can i say about it

[merry raft]

ok

[civic fern]

to be fair, i have up to 20mbps upload

so i can understand why i never had it

i'm more suprised to the fact that i actually got it with all the competition having 1gbps

[civic fern]

holy shit sgs is actually running

we're so barack

[misty furnace]

obamna

[civic fern]

SODA!!!

[misty furnace]

fellow man of culture

[gleaming shell]

moment

[misty furnace]

i’m surviving off bandwidth rn. these containers just don’t last

[gleaming shell]

gonna buy 0.125 cubic centimeters of air with this

[jovial fiber]

according to my calculation
1 cubic centimeter of compressed air cost about 0.00001 $ so you can buy 8 cubic centimeters of compressed air

so don't complain

[merry raft]

why are u annoying him xd

[latent breach]

You guys are earning money from sgs?

[merry raft]

no

[latent breach]

🥂

[merry raft]

u get some i get 0 from sgs

just container

[latent breach]

Well I have a 3050, so try to understand my condition...

[merry raft]

yes sad

[gleaming shell]

So true

[topaz dagger]

lmaoo

sgs acc a w rn. i forgive sgs for the week it disappeared

[topaz dagger]

oh salad completely died

[frigid reef]

[topaz dagger]

?? wym nuh uh

[frigid reef]

nuh uh

[topaz dagger]

i meant it died for me

[frigid reef]

then it didn't fully die then

[topaz dagger]

dude what

[civic fern]

same

it was fun while it lasted though

[robust creek]

yes, static pay

[peak terrace]

how do you get sgs so quick

takes ages for me

[topaz dagger]

i had to shut down my pc

no more sgs for me

ok i got sgs client

but its not gonna earn anything

for a week

[robust creek]

quick? it's 3 hours, it from 3 to 9 hours

[misty furnace]

quick is less than a month

subjective

[cinder seal]

Same issue

[misty furnace]

delete the corresponding zip file in the folder C:\ProgramData\Salad\workloads\_downloads and restart your device

[cinder seal]

Ok thanks 👍

[misty furnace]

yw

[peak terrace]

as opposed to my 2 weeks

[topaz dagger]

as opposed to my instant

[gleaming shell]

Does the UK still get static pay

[safe loom]

uk never got static pay

they always got dynamic

mfs got dollars a day

not cents

[latent breach]

🙃

[upbeat shuttle]

yeah we do

we just never see it because we ball too hard

anyways it looks like they've finally brought back the sgs doc

https://salad.com/documents/Salad_Gateway_Service_Overview_Residential_IPs.pdf

under a different name

they've made one small wording edit, but still kept the last revised dec 2022 date

crazy to believe bandwidth sharing has existed for like 2 years now

[safe loom]

that’s what i’m saying

[robust creek]

uk has 0,10 static + traffic

itay lives of static 0,20

i wonder why they say bw is available in the first place, if you got not traffic say is not available xd

[upbeat shuttle]

germany:

[misty furnace]

link at the end is borked

[upbeat shuttle]

yep

[hollow vortex]

There is like over 100 broken links on the site

[misty furnace]

the usual

tbf they should at least have a “pardon our dust” or smth for all of the links on the site that don’t work, rather than calling the 404 page

[latent breach]

Web devs are too lazy to do that

[topaz dagger]

it came back much faster than i expected

[gleaming shell]

huh weird that the UK still has static pay but the us has it gone for a long time now

Though I do get jobs almost instantly upon getting sgs

But then earnings are low af here too

[topaz dagger]

its like 0.002

[topaz dagger]

yes

[gleaming shell]

Though you guys do go days without jobs right

[topaz dagger]

these r my SHIT days

the only reason my earning became so low

is cuz i shut my pc off

3 times

without turning salad off

which prob messed up my reliability score

[gleaming shell]

This but my laptop died

Then no earnings again for 1 month

[topaz dagger]

damn

which country?

[gleaming shell]

US

This was a bunch of months ago

[topaz dagger]

how is bw for u now

[gleaming shell]

its been ass again but slowly picking up

[topaz dagger]

😔

[topaz dagger]

#1231003538537185360

[robust creek]

they made fees higher for EUR and GBP transactions

Me gladly withdrawing USD PayPal to avoid it 🖕

PayPal fee is lower than salad's fee

[robust creek]

Fee to transform usd to euro

[foggy wind]

is bandwith in sg?

[misty furnace]

sg?

[gleaming shell]

Singing a pore

(Singapore)

(I think)

[stoic locust]

waaiiit whaaat

what is the secret sauce

[topaz dagger]

luck

[latent breach]

Also location

[latent breach]

Also notice that bro chopped for almost 8 hours and earned just static pay, only then he got the real job.

[robust creek]

i'm lucky i have withdrawed just right before sgs died, so i can say i will uninstall salad if sgs won't start

[topaz dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/661337803246010408.gif?size=160&quality=lossless

[robust creek]

how can your users be satisfied with your trash application? if youre not in uk you dont earn

[frigid reef]

Then don't use it, complaining isn't going to make a difference

I don't get users that all they do is complain about earnings like salad isn't working on it, it just takes time, if salad didn't want you to earn that just means less profit for them like its in their best intrest for them to get you to earn the most

You earning more = more profit for salad

[frigid reef]

lmao

[robust creek]

no users = no possible earnings for the company because there is nothing to sell

[frigid reef]

well there is users i can tell you that

[robust creek]

instead of invest to find new users they should treat their old users better

[frigid reef]

they are though... jared legit said they stopped their focus on getting new users to get more clients for container jobs....

im not sure how much there is to tell you that all you need to do is wait... not much can be done if you just don't give them time

[robust creek]

is only getting worse

[frigid reef]

for some users yes and for others no, end of the day switching from crypto mining to containers/bw sharing will have a change in requirements for users and wait time for users

[robust creek]

if you're not in uk you can just directly tell them sgs for their country is not supported

earnings are so low anyways

no difference

[frigid reef]

but it is supported so that would be lying and hurting the growth of earnings in the future

[robust creek]

the future is never

make sgs thing available for raspberry

only this way i can accept like this

why tf i need to keep a windows pc just to give my internet

makes no sense

and they haven't updated sgs from more than a year i've heard

why i'm forced to update aftery 2 weeks?

there's a lot of things to change

the speedtest is broken, i need to change server to get at least 90mbps upload

otherwise i get 5

and i have 300

upload

[frigid reef]

you are not though, thats just for containers

[robust creek]

it updates itself without consent

[frigid reef]

Im waiting for a next update to help them collect data about this issue

i have a feeling its to do with elevated permissons but i may be wrong

[robust creek]

the issue can be easily fixed with this :

don't make the app download the update, only when you hit update then it starts the download

never understood why it downloads automatically

if i don't want to update, don't download it

[frigid reef]

it seems as you know so much you should make salad yourself 👍

first about earnings now bugs

[robust creek]

it works perfectly for uk users

rename it salad, an uk exclusive application

[frigid reef]

bro its really salty, anyway, its not our fault sgs demand is high in the uk, its just how it is due to sporting events mainly, like the world cup that just leads to alot more demand, i hope you realise alot of the "earnings issues" are just demand they cant control

salad works in alot of countries just because you are a user not earning what you think is enough you go and complain every time here, we hear you, there is nothing we can do, and im pretty sure if there was something salad could do they would do it, as more earnings = more profit for salad and more growth, you are again acting like salad is going against you no, you are just complaning out in the open for no reason, we hear you again, nothing we can do except tell you to wait, now please for god, stop complaning

and move on if you dont like salad

[robust creek]

make a raspberry version for sgs

i can only accept this way

[frigid reef]

Thats taking away development time for salad to improve the features for users that have been using salad for a long time, again, your complains are useless as it effects salad in a more negative way then positive. it goes against the point you said early and focusing on making salad just for you not the multiple of other users out there, im pretty sure if salad has the dev time to make salad good for 1 singular user there is bigger issues going on

[robust creek]

i extremely doubt i-m the only one thinking like this, users just mass uninstall and move on, take this as an opportunity to understand the reasons why people leave

just to remind you, i have a friends group with 30 people which 20 joined salad, many left when static pay decreased, now everyone left because of bad earnings

you lost 20 people not 1

[frigid reef]

They do, trust me its why they added the fourm, but, saying "make a version for salad for this device" is not good feedback, salad dropped support for linux and mac for a reason, making a version just for a raspery pie falls into the exact same reason, and with earnings they hear you and are working on it, it just takes time

[frigid reef]

tell them to come back later when salad has improved it, it takes time as i said, you do not realise the bigger picture of all the data salad has compared to your small pool

im pretty sure salad has the better data pool to make better decisions

[robust creek]

maybe if you make a everlasting ref % earning

[frigid reef]

maybe if you realise, you dont know shit about how salad works and move on, you dont have a big enough data pool to say what salad should work on directly and you dont know how they work internally, we get you and your friends dont like salad, i said just give it time, ima stop this now as its pointless, you keep complaning about the same thing and dont listen to the reasons on why its like that, 👋 please just move on and come back when salad has improved on the part you use

[robust creek]

last thing

if they have the time to release 100 updates a month, they surely have some time to make a raspberry version, doesn't even need the GUI, can just be a command to paste on the terminal, they just need to code it for linux (sgs part only)

[frigid reef]

they don't have time 👍

[jovial fiber]

'-'

seems like french revolution

[robust creek]

commission someone?

it's full of people searching for a job, pay them to do that XD

[frigid reef]

Not worth the money investment at this time

I can keep going

on just denying your points instantly

Also takes time to find that person to hire

I think you need to just stop

[peak terrace]

the italian revolution

[topaz dagger]

bro

they arent here to give free money

[hollow vortex]

wasting your time responding lol.

[topaz dagger]

yh

i was gonna say more

but no point

and salad treating me good

[hollow vortex]

salad is salad. 🤷‍♂️

[upbeat shuttle]

holy doomer

I'm not reading any more of ec2's babble

maybe you just have selective vision, but there are people in countries that aren't the UK (😱) that are earning (😱) from bandwidth sharing (😱)

[robust creek]

low, yes

[hollow vortex]

I get .50-1.50 a day

[robust creek]

it's something

better than 0-0,20

[misty furnace]

me over here earning almost $2/day from bandwidth pretty often in the US

[robust creek]

its honestly surprising that usa has low demand,but understandable it's of course better than ITA

[misty furnace]

this isn’t low demand, there are a lot of salad users here

[robust creek]

maybe

[misty furnace]

it’s not maybe, there are actually a lot of users in the US. Salad distributes sgs workloads to the nodes with the least load, so it’s not like one user will have full gig sgs

[upbeat shuttle]

we are the supply, the customers are the demand

[robust creek]

they don't need my connection so what's the point continue provide it to them, my pc can breathe

[upbeat shuttle]

ok

[hollow vortex]

No one in this discord wants you to stay just to complain about the same thing, and only 1 thing ( you earn little to nothing )

[robust creek]

i just feel made fun of

you know this no?

i tried turned gpu on, guess how much the estimated earnings were...

0,07 in the next 24 hours, meanwhile my poor card was being used 100%

(mining disabled)

intalling it back just to show you. and since this is GPU, you can't say anything about demand in my country

"star chef"

[topaz dagger]

yh cuz u just started

there r MANY MANY ppl also with a 3070 ti

which have been running salad for way longer than u have

just wait and have some patience

[robust creek]

how much they earning with it?

1$ a day? XD

[latent breach]

80 cents per day for nothing feels too much. On my best days when sgs consumes around 100GB, I only get about 70 cents.

[peak terrace]

why are you spending so much effort talking about salad if it's not working out for you

[robust creek]

you are doing something which is selling them your gpu power, it produces noise and heat, i wanna be paid more

[robust creek]

hoping

[peak terrace]

just stop yapping about it

[topaz dagger]

fr

like fr ur opinion wont change anything

[robust creek]

1 person that talks about it could maybe start an argument that involves more people, i can't talk about gpu in this section but i don't even want to give them my gpu anyways

[latent breach]

Probably in the multiple of 10 or even 20s....but we can't complain that much...
I am from India and here people just work all day long in 40°c just to earn $5...so can't complain given we are earning technical without providing our labour.

[topaz dagger]

@robust creek how fast is ur wifi

[robust creek]

if you are happy with that, enjoy

i'm not happy

[robust creek]

1000/300

[topaz dagger]

which country

[robust creek]

italy

[topaz dagger]

how long have u been running salad 24/7?

[latent breach]

But from your side 7 cents is really very very low

[robust creek]

8 months with a pause of 2 months because of anger

[latent breach]

Try bandwidth sharing if that helps...plus this won't even cause wear and tear to your GPU

[topaz dagger]

damn 8 months

i thought u were new

how much do u earn with salad

[robust creek]

i'm complaining about bandwith being low earning in my end

[topaz dagger]

not salad's fault

[latent breach]

How many GB has sgs used and how much were you paid?

[robust creek]

from 0 to 0,20 and lucky days 0,50 (lucky days are rare)

[robust creek]

hold on

running no stop 24/7

[topaz dagger]

ok lets compare

to mine

[latent breach]

You guys don't have load shedding?

[topaz dagger]

so mine is double

u got $8

[robust creek]

1tb in 24 hours...

[topaz dagger]

so according to that i shouldve got $16

ur getting paid MUCH MORE per gb

[robust creek]

i have higher static pay at least

[robust creek]

no its not per gb

i earn mostly with static pay

[latent breach]

Bro I got $6.25 for sharing 1184 GB😂

[robust creek]

there's no demand in here

[robust creek]

but in how much

it's not a matter of GB, i have unlimited plan i don't care, what matters is the money being earned in the less time possible

or it's not worth keeping a pc turned on 24/7

[topaz dagger]

$8 for salad barely using ur bw

idk up to u

[robust creek]

but in 30 days

my pc probably used more than that in electicity bill

also conciser salad payout fee

consider*

[latent breach]

For me too...I too have an unlimited internet connection....but neither electricity not internet (fibre) is stable here... everything decides to go off at least 2 times a day..

So I get back to static pay....

[robust creek]

how much is your static pay?

[latent breach]

Do you have a laptop?

[latent breach]

$0.00126 previous
Now $.00121

[robust creek]

e year ago was 0,80$ here

then became 0,50 then 0,25 and now 0,20.. what's next? 0,10?

[robust creek]

a day

[topaz dagger]

yh

more ppl use salad

[robust creek]

i have salad on my desktop, i need my laptop to come with me outside house

[topaz dagger]

i earn less too

everyone earns less

than they did a year ago with bw

i think

idk 2 ppl that do

[robust creek]

"less" enojy it XD

[topaz dagger]

earn muchh much less

[latent breach]

You are from India right?

[topaz dagger]

o

no

UK

[latent breach]

Ah, you rich bandwidth job people 🥲

[topaz dagger]

i upload bottlenecks so hard

ive got 1000/100

[robust creek]

look how sgs is not even starting

[topaz dagger]

but salad only ever uses 100 download max

[robust creek]

not even static pay

[topaz dagger]

cuz of my upload

[robust creek]

0

[topaz dagger]

if i had highher upload id def earn much more

[latent breach]

Stop chopping and start again

[topaz dagger]

have u ever turned ur pc off

or restarted ur pc

without turning salad off first

[latent breach]

I have just 80mbps up/down

[robust creek]

i have 300 upload which is much higher than the average italian because not many people got fiber here, but they don't use...

[visual rock]

how to activate adult content workloads ?

[topaz dagger]

open settings

[latent breach]

If it is deactivated that means that your country doesn't support it.

[topaz dagger]

on salad

go to bottom

[visual rock]

turn off your antivirus maybe help

[topaz dagger]

click workload preferences

scroll dowen

"advanced options"

[misty furnace]

yes, I was trying to say to EC2 that it may look like low demand because individual earnings aren’t as good as the UK, but that’s partly because we have a lot of nodes in the US and the load (and earnings) are spread across the nodes

[robust creek]

i dont have any antiviurs it's just windows defender

[visual rock]

[topaz dagger]

nvm

lol

1 sec

[robust creek]

it's not the antivurs btw

[visual rock]

turn off

[topaz dagger]

go here

then select this

[robust creek]

what's the point? it's not the antivirus the issue

[topaz dagger]

and ull have adault content workloads

[latent breach]

Defender doesn't interfere much with salad.

[visual rock]

i have norton antivirus and added all whitelist but it dont work with him

[latent breach]

My answer remains the same.

This type of workload is banned in your country.

[topaz dagger]

rip

[latent breach]

So you can't enable it.

[visual rock]

[latent breach]

Where are you from?

[visual rock]

Kazakhstan

[latent breach]

The country remains the problem. (No pun intended)

Respect for everyone 🫡

[visual rock]

yeap

[topaz dagger]

💀

[robust creek]

instead of feeling happy i feel being abused rn

my poor pc is producing so much noise and heat.. my ram is saturated, i seen it downloading something like 10GB of stuff...

1$ a day...

[peak terrace]

that is a shit container

yeet it

better than mining but still

[robust creek]

is the only one i got

[robust creek]

because you got better earnings with 3070ti?

[peak terrace]

[robust creek]

aah 4070 no

tell for 3070ti

[peak terrace]

salad customers do not seem very interested in rtx 3000 anymore

i expect the same will happen to rtx 4000 when 5000 comes out

[robust creek]

= this one or nothing

[peak terrace]

then keep it i guess

i personally wouldn't because then the power consumption would make it unprofitable

[robust creek]

i'll turn off my pc when i go sleep, too much noise and heat

[robust creek]

this was a test

and salad failed as always

[peak terrace]

if you do not like it then quit using salad

[robust creek]

i see a wasted potential

wasted by greediness

[peak terrace]

quit complaining

beggars can't be choosers

[robust creek]

says the person earning 20$ a day

[peak terrace]

i am lucky to earn $5 a day

usually it is closer to $3

[robust creek]

with bw

[peak terrace]

i don't get bw anymore

[robust creek]

then add gpu

ah

[peak terrace]

$5 is with gpu and bw together

[robust creek]

odd

hm? they considering paying more?

2$ is still bad xd

will keep it a little longer to test, then byebye

[peak terrace]

maybe it is sgs

[robust creek]

sgs is not using anything

[peak terrace]

then maybe it is a spike and you will see the next 15 mins pays less then usual

[robust creek]

would be something unusual if it was using xd

[robust creek]

i think they pay more or less depending on how much stuff the card renders(?) i have no idea,2$ is still bad anyways and not worth running

[frigid reef]

You back already?

Jesus that was fast

[robust creek]

am testing how bad it earns giving GPU to show it after

[frigid reef]

Ah then kindly do it out of the bw sharing channel as this is for bw sharing

[robust creek]

i don't even know where to post this, chef? lobby??

[frigid reef]

chef posting ig

[safe loom]

australia just got more demand for bandwidth

womp womp

[robust creek]

?

AU betterthan UK?

[safe loom]

no

in every aspect other than salad bandwidth sharing yeah

[robust creek]

not regarding heat XD

sorry but i hate heat

[peak terrace]

british prisoner island

[civic fern]

ebil :c

[waxen pollen]

Talk about a tease

[topaz dagger]

🔥 😭

[misty furnace]

womp womp :(

[latent breach]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-happy-happy-happy-happy-cat-happy-dancing-cat-gif-716006509349864265

[gleaming shell]

The us experience

[topaz dagger]

i hate it already

[gleaming shell]

lol

[waxen pollen]

If your in the US, use earnapp. The US traffic is miles better than what the UK traffic is for the same app. I'm surprised salad BW traffic for the UK is generally as good as it is. It's defo not the norm for BW apps.
Though i haven't had SGS in weeks now myself o.O

[gleaming shell]

yeah i use earnapp+

some days i earn more from that app lo

[waxen pollen]

☝️

[gleaming shell]

(no im not trying to advertise earnapp)

[waxen pollen]

It's not worth using for the UK, earnings are horrible

[gleaming shell]

i seem to be earning pretty well in the us

[waxen pollen]

yeah US has the best traffic

[gleaming shell]

about 25 to 30ish? cents per day

[waxen pollen]

yikes, used to be way more than that. I made a business out of it making a quarter mill a year. No joke. My group had 16k residential IPs, I had something like 8k myself, but then they all got banned because earnapp doesn't like you making a business out of them.

[gleaming shell]

lol

16k ips

[waxen pollen]

It just got to the point of being less and less profitable, till there was no point in continuing.

We weren't doing anything that was against their TOS either, VMs were allowed, Proxies were allowed, but they constantly went to war against those with a lot of IPs, then they finally changed their TOS without telling anyone to ban there use.

[misty furnace]

I think you could probably run salad on VPSs with all of your ips, but if they’re not residential it won’t work

[waxen pollen]

not allowed

[misty furnace]

ah

[waxen pollen]

I asked 😅

[misty furnace]

rip

wonder what they have against it

[waxen pollen]

🤷

i asked if we could use VMs and clean residential proxy IPs and i got back a firm "You'd be breaking our no cheating the system rule" Basically

[misty furnace]

ah

probably has something to do with taxes as well, because at that point it’s no longer a rewards system

and not just taxes, also other legalities

[waxen pollen]

🤷 unsure, i had a real sole trader business going too. So i would have payed any relevant taxes

[misty furnace]

honestly you could run your own ISP if you can pay the other companies to let you use their infrastructure. I’ve heard of it being done before

[waxen pollen]

yeah the extremely rude ass of a genius coder of the group decided to split and do his own thing. Not like we ever did anything for him to get where he was or anything . . .

I'm not salty, your salty...

https://tenor.com/view/yor-forger-yor-spy-x-family-deranged-annoyed-gone-crazy-gif-14403387221076045551

[hollow vortex]

I make more on salad then earnapp , But it does seem to do ok.

[waxen pollen]

hmm, i'm guessing things have drasticly changed then. They were screwing it all over, by moving all there traffic to their new piggy box thing. So traffic was getting less and less as the months went on.

why pay people 10s of $s a month, when they can charge people max $10 a month with their piggy box

and funnel all the traffic via the capped option

[hollow vortex]

they have limited traffic to 200MB a day for US , and up the price to 1$ a gig . So youre really limited.

[waxen pollen]

dame

[hollow vortex]

and the 10$ a month is a joke, if you run it on your pc .

[waxen pollen]

well it was an actual box they would send you, that they could funnel an unlimited amount of traffic through your IP and still only pay you $10 a month.

and you were limited to 1 box per house hold

[hollow vortex]

yeah they have that for pc too , and its a joke, its a memory hog on top of that. the box would be the better bet but still imo not worth it . the 200 mb a day is better deal

[waxen pollen]

in the UK you'd be getting 10s of MBs a day if you were lucky.

there was just no demand in the UK

i have no idea how salad has so much

[jovial fiber]

still wondering what does that mean

it's only the data sent to salad gateway or both the data i download and then upload
also it's in bits ?

my calculation are all wrong so ;-;

my bad we have already talked about that and didn't understood

[misty furnace]

yeah it's adding the upload and download used by sgs-client.exe (not including the heartbeat)

[dull gazelle]

What were the instructions on how to fix the libre speedtest server?