Bandwidth Sharing FAQs + Troubleshooting

[hollow vortex]

its wireless - there will be packetloss .

[peak terrace]

well yeah but he has basically optimal conditions

the ping and speeds are about as good as fibre to the premises

[unkempt loom]

they have definitely reduced static payout rate also

before it was 0.32$ here

now 0.12$ 😭 soo unfair

salad JUSTICE PLS!!!

[peak terrace]

from the perspective of a for-profit company i would totally do the same

static pay is literally just wasted money

you give away money for no product

[sinful lark]

Why sgs only using download

No upload?

[upbeat shuttle]

hm

not normal, but not much you can do about it

wait and see what happens

[sinful lark]

Yeah alright

[upbeat shuttle]

welll

the active, immediately ready nodes could be part of the product

[dry carbon]

i got no sgs for 7 months

[gleaming shell]

god damn

7 months is insane

[dry carbon]

fr

[gleaming shell]

i used to go if i remenmber somewhere around 4 to 6 months

but 7 months holy shit

[dry carbon]

yea

[gleaming shell]

give this man his sgs

[dry carbon]

bw sharing folder doesnt even exist

[gleaming shell]

what country do you live in?

[dry carbon]

India

[gleaming shell]

oh wtf

[dry carbon]

ppl do get bw there

[dry carbon]

?

[gleaming shell]

isnt india a pretty good country for bandwidth?

can you send me your latest salad log i wanna see if sgs is failing to download or smth

[dry carbon]

ndm log?

[gleaming shell]

nah just your main logs

[dry carbon]

k

[gleaming shell]

you can also send me your latest ndm log if you want too, if youre not sure about the results

[dry carbon]

ul is 7mbbs

[gleaming shell]

ohh

[dry carbon]

even though i got like 364 ul

[gleaming shell]

i think you need atleast 10mbps to be able to get sgs client

looks like youre getting a bad server

are a lot of the results like that?

[dry carbon]

yea

[dry carbon]

i think so

wth my plan is of 300mbbs ul and dl

[gleaming shell]

are you running salad 24/7?

[dry carbon]

yep

[gleaming shell]

hm

[dry carbon]

mostly

[gleaming shell]

bc those speeds look perfect for sgs

[dry carbon]

like power cuts or some occasional shutdown

[dry carbon]

yeah idk

this log file isnt processing

[gleaming shell]

hmm

try sending the log thats before that

i can look in to that one too

[dry carbon]

ok

[gleaming shell]

alright

[dry carbon]

k

hope i get bw job

my acc got hacked

so gotta grind for all those steam games 💪

[gleaming shell]

can you send me your latest ndm log?

[dry carbon]

imma try

cant send it

its just processing

[gleaming shell]

damn

try the one before again?

if thats possible

[gleaming shell]

oh thats the main logs

also i noticed something

one sec

[dry carbon]

ok

[gleaming shell]

i noticed this in your logs

"download cancelled"

never seen it before, but idk if thats anything wrong

[dry carbon]

what th that means?

[gleaming shell]

not sure, @neon blade can you help

(idk if hes busy rn but ill see what i can do atm)

[dry carbon]

Ok

[neon blade]

didnt i talk to you in #community-support

[gleaming shell]

also are your containers working?

i cent read logs as well as others

[dry carbon]

yep

[gleaming shell]

cant*

[neon blade]

you need to meet the requirements if you want bandwidth jobs

you were answered in #community-support

why ask again

[gleaming shell]

looks like hes getting shit librespeed servers

[neon blade]

yea

he'll have to lose his container if he wants to get a chance at better speeds

i dont think anyone will take that risk

[gleaming shell]

kinda wish salad atleast added the --upload size thing or allowed custom servers so it can be used as a temporary fix to the bad speeds

but its against tos so users have to just leave it be

[dry carbon]

i will tho

i get insta containers

[gleaming shell]

well he has a 4070ti so containers should go pretty well for him

[dry carbon]

yea pretty muchh instant containers

[gleaming shell]

what i do is just keep restarting my laptop until i get a good server with good speeds

[dry carbon]

ok

[gleaming shell]

but holy shit tho

7 months without sgs

[dry carbon]

yea

Upload rate: 10.30 Mbps

is this eligible

[gleaming shell]

looks like its just borderline

i think its eligible

but i think higher speeds would be preferred

do you know what server its speedtesting on?

[dry carbon]

restart salad?

[gleaming shell]

you might be getting a bad server repeadetly

[dry carbon]

insatant container

[gleaming shell]

thats nice lol

i havent got a container in months

(a gpu one)

[dry carbon]

bw job tho

its chossing consistently bad servers

[dry carbon]

bro i keep getting german or rome servers

i get ul 4- 8

[gleaming shell]

Gotta love librespeed

[sinful lark]

Hey its still only download even with a job?

Only using download

[sinful lark]

how do i see if my pc failed to install sgs or something

[thorny imp]

In main logs.txt files, just do control + F and search for download

it should say something like "download not recieved"

at least that's what it did for me

[sinful lark]

Hmm alright

[upbeat shuttle]

if it failed to download it, it wouldn't be there and running lol

[upbeat shuttle]

it usually uses download and upload almost equally

it's a bit odd but I'm not sure if I'd say there's something wrong with it just yet

[lone sparrow]

its been 6 days since i got my last sgs job 😭

[lone sparrow]

current internet speed

chopping for 24x7

currently mining only

latest log

[sinful lark]

another pc

[sinful lark]

Alright i see is it possible to get sgs to start on my 4g? Or is it only on residential ips

[tropic vortex]

is sgs cheaper for vpn providers than other services

something makes me feel its more xpensive

[sinful lark]

Aye how do I see if I have residential ip

[light isle]

https://www.ip2location.com click try demo and see what it says

[hollow vortex]

Sgs is a VPN for others .

[upbeat shuttle]

no idea

but there's customers

[tropic vortex]

yeah just for my ersonal info

in case i wanted to use it for any projects i have in mind

[upbeat shuttle]

ah

well I have no idea, I haven't looked into their pricing model for SGS

it's not really public i guess

[tropic vortex]

true

[lone sparrow]

.

[sinful lark]

Why is sgs connected to like 15 ips but using like 4 mb

[modest dew]

i never get sgs anymore it just stopped appearing since the recent update.

[light isle]

same issue here i looked into it, it seems salad isnt even downloading it

[light isle]

depends what the clinet is doing, its kinda like how it works while your using the internet

[sinful lark]

yeah its connected to a bunch of vpns

so yeah

[light isle]

yeah

[modest dew]

That explains it then

[light isle]

pretty much yes

[sinful lark]

so they be using my bandwith but i get nothing from it

but ig uess there using little

so its fine

[light isle]

you might be getting something from it but it would be very little

[upbeat shuttle]

You're paid for the bandwidth used, not how many active connections there are

[sinful lark]

yeah i guess thats right

[hollow vortex]

yeah its like .003 ish per gb depending on country .

[peak terrace]

has the uk $/gb decreased

i feel like it has

[sacred mason]

what $ per 15 mins would you consider a container

[peak terrace]

anything from $0.01 to $0.09

[sharp drum]

has sgs-client.exe been fixed or no

cant find it in my task manager at all

[safe loom]

whats the problem?

[sharp drum]

well when i first open this forum

it said back in 2022 about

sgs-client.exe not appearing when you have the bandwidth enable

and i just checked my task manager and its not there

[safe loom]

yeah thats not what this thread is anymore

[sharp drum]

oh

[safe loom]

this is based on the entirety of bandwidth sharing

but a thread instead

[sharp drum]

so something like this?

[safe loom]

what country are you in?

[sharp drum]

US

[safe loom]

yes that bandwidth sharing

[safe loom]

theres low demand there so thats likely why you havent seen it sharing

[sharp drum]

elaborate, im somewhat confused still

oh and one more question

[safe loom]

basically theres alot more supply of bandwidth than customers want

[sharp drum]

oh got it

[sharp drum]

also should I have cpu disabled and gpu enabled or just keep them both enabled

[safe loom]

keep them both enabled

assuming you have a container compatible gpu

[sharp drum]

Alright 2 more questions and im done

1. (the 1st picture) assuming I have everything setup, this is common amount i should be getting in the next 24 hours with a 3060 ti + intel i5 13600kf and 32 gb of DDR5

2. Does overclocking your gpu change anything at all, and if so, how will you make your gpu use your boosted memory clock

[safe loom]

1 yes thats about right for a 3060ti and 32gb of ram
2 no, only for mining but mining isnt really profitable for anyone unless electricity is really cheap or free

[sharp drum]

oh so overclocking doesnt affect container workload at all got it

[safe loom]

nope, containers work differently than mining workloads so overclocking wouldn't change how much you earn, underclocking is discouraged cause it can cause your card to underperform than expected and get you blacklisted from container workloads

[subtle condor]

seems like it

I'm getting 0.06 at max instead of 0.1 even though it's still using the same amount of bandwidth :c

quite disappointing ngl

[peak terrace]

salad getting greedy fr

[sharp drum]

what gpu 👀

[subtle condor]

?

3060 ti but I don't use it on Salad

[sharp drum]

wait so

0.06 for what then

im confused

[subtle condor]

bandwidth sharing, you're looking at the forum for bandwidth sharing.

[thorny imp]

Still 6 usd per day, im lucky if i get 0.80 usd in sweden, shits dead

[subtle condor]

Makes it less profitable for what resources its using though

[tardy swan]

😢

[narrow tiger]

why do i not get bw

[gleaming shell]

Ok so turns out my school wifi is business, not data center

But still weird how I can get sgs client on it

[shrewd terrace]

i dont get bw in india

i did it for many hours

[narrow tiger]

i dont get bw in usa

i did it for many years 💀

[modest dew]

Same here

[light isle]

same

[civic fern]

same here last time i tried

i could get sgs on my laptop at uni lol

which was... 8 months ago

[opal galleon]

@neon blade do you still get sgs??

[neon blade]

i dont use salad

[sinful lark]

yoyoyo

will salad work on this

or nahh

idk why hosting

[frigid reef]

no clue as all you have shown me is longitude and type hosting, i have 0 clue what that means

[sinful lark]

like will it work on that type of hosting

i mean

type of network

like you know how there is residential and all the toher types

[frigid reef]

do you mean a vps?

oh

[sinful lark]

okay

[frigid reef]

well is it a home internet connection?

[sinful lark]

well its on my mobile data

since ive got unlimited

[frigid reef]

mobile data is not supported for bw sharing

[sinful lark]

damn

it used to work before for some reason idk why not now

[sharp drum]

hey quick question, for 300 mbps download, and 10 upload, how much will i most likely make only going for bandwidth in the USA only

[upbeat shuttle]

only 10mbps upload??

yikes

[sharp drum]

ik unfortunately

[upbeat shuttle]

the minimum for bandwidth sharing is roughly 10mbps

and you're likely gonna get below that realistically

[sharp drum]

so its not worth it im assuming

[upbeat shuttle]

probably

[sharp drum]

hm

is there way i can increase my upload speed or that just means i need to replace my wifi

or go ethernet

[upbeat shuttle]

if your internet plan is 300/10, all you can do is upgrade your internet plan

[sharp drum]

hm alright

what target upload and download should i go for?

if i want earn using bandwidth

[upbeat shuttle]

you shouldn't really upgrade your internet just because of Salad, especially as you're in the US - where it's not too common to earn (much) from Bandwidth Sharing

[sharp drum]

well its not only because of salad but considering i do play many fps games and overall my wifi has been really terrible and every once in awhile it will often times go down

[upbeat shuttle]

mmm

Well for Bandwidth Sharing, your upload speed matters just as much as your download speed. The ideal speeds would be symmetrical - upload and download being (roughly) the same - and fast.

[sharp drum]

hm alright

i guess for next time i will just have bw sharing off and only adult setting turned on. Thanks!

[peak terrace]

ex-fucking-scuse me what 300/10??????

that's literally a scam

[hollow vortex]

not really sounds like its cable.

[sharp drum]

indeed

me when cable 🥹

im planning to go ethernet soon enough and rely on my own internet but

the ethernet plug in my room does not work and

i dont know any 3rd party solutions to this

[hollow vortex]

Only know this cause about 10 years ago, i had a plan that was like 100/10 LOL

[sharp drum]

yikes

this is totally fine!

[hollow vortex]

round two . pretty steady

[safe loom]

oakla > fast.com

fast,com is only 83% accurate

[light isle]

speedtest cli. its the most accutate since there is nothing else using your internet

[upbeat shuttle]

what are you on about

[light isle]

while the website is open there is other things running in the background the require internet.
if you run speed test in a command line its only testing your speed with nothing else using it

[safe loom]

it’s more so that fast.com overstates your speed

not understating

thinks i have 1.2-1.4gbps

which i don’t

last night it said 1.6gbps while oakla said 875mbps

[hollow vortex]

regardless of your opinnion , Other speed test come back fairly on point with fast

[safe loom]

not an opinion

literal fact

[hollow vortex]

Speedtest.net and branded by many ISPs) don't represent real-world network traffic as well as single-thread tests.

[light isle]

ima compare mine

[hollow vortex]

Do a few. yours will match up better then oakla .

I'll never rely on okla for a real speed test. regardless what one thinks lol.

[light isle]

ok so fast.com average is 850mbps for me, ill do ookla

[safe loom]

fast.com, oakla, and my isp's oakla branded speedtest

(on wifi)

[light isle]

ookla says 900

[safe loom]

if isp's endorse oakla's speedtests and use it as standard, i think its pretty good

[light isle]

so fast is lower

[hollow vortex]

oakla isnt reliable as there ppl that host there speed tests. another factor in speed tests are how many hops its takes.

[safe loom]

both are still more accurate than librespeed :)

[light isle]

facts

[safe loom]

oakla relies on isp datacenters?

[light isle]

well if i host my own test its about the same

[light isle]

yeah its all isp datacenters

[hollow vortex]

just ran again.

[light isle]

what speed do you pay for?

[hollow vortex]

my isp for download

[light isle]

.

[hollow vortex]

and my upload from isp

600/600

but i always got 600+

[light isle]

wow thats really good

maybe they dont know how to cap the speed lol

[hollow vortex]

for 35$ idc lol.

[light isle]

true

[hollow vortex]

i could get 1500/1500 for 55$ but i have no need for it. so itd just be wasted

[light isle]

my internet is 1000/400 for 180 usd

[hollow vortex]

wow

[light isle]

so expensive here

[hollow vortex]

i use to pya 70$ 1 gig down

[light isle]

i have a friend in scotland that pays 35 pounds for 1gig symmetrical

45 usd

[hollow vortex]

yeah thats about avg for some of the fiber i think in us

[light isle]

i think the problem with the price here in australia is there only just rolling out fibre

[hollow vortex]

well its exp wire too .

[light isle]

thats very true

i spoke with my isp, they said when most people have fibre the price might go down but they are unsure

[knotty gazelle]

when will i get bandwidth sharing

i already have it but when will i get money

[upbeat shuttle]

when it uses your bandwidth

[gleaming shell]

can someone that has bandwidth sharing send me their sgs log? i wanna compare mine with someone elses

as i seem to be getting errors pretty frequently

[hollow vortex]

well ok then

[knotty gazelle]

when will it use my bandwidth

[upbeat shuttle]

that isn't possible to predict, unfortunately

[tardy swan]

soon™️

[robust creek]

salad increased payout fees, one more reason to not come back

[peak terrace]

you like complaining

[frigid reef]

:o salad taking more of a fee for 1-1 dollar giftcards as they need to start making a profit but are finding more rewards in bulk/discount so they can pass along the discount to us

[robust creek]

i was requesting only paypal payout

fees were already too high, now they doubled them, wtf is this?

[frigid reef]

what is classed under a 1-1 giftcard, also us ones haven't changed

[robust creek]

paypal euro

it was 6$ for 5€ now is 7$ for 5€

[frigid reef]

:o 1 dollar 60 fee due to paypal conversion fee + salads markup

[robust creek]

i'm glad i stopped it before being affected by this, let's see how less rewarding they will become with time to time xd

[frigid reef]

they made the markup the same as the us ones

but because of paypal conversion fee its gonna cost more

just buy the us ones and convert it yourself

if you really want to

[robust creek]

i won't request anything as i'm not an user anymore.

they keep decreasing rates, why should i run it?

[frigid reef]

i mean, the rates are not decreaing on my end, getting 6 dollars for a 3090 and another 7 dollars from bw sharing

but sure

[peak terrace]

you are obliged to remain silent

[robust creek]

it's 0,20$ a day now, before was 0,25

2 months ago 0,50$, until july was 0,80$

[frigid reef]

for what?

[robust creek]

static pay bw

[frigid reef]

like you do not mention what workload it is at all

hear me out, because why should they pay if they are not using your bandwidth?

like ofc its gonna go down

[robust creek]

then why they say bw in italy is available? if their clients don't need italy ips then remove it from the list, don't give false hope, people with lower than 100mbps upload won't get sgs started up anyways

[sharp drum]

what about 10

[frigid reef]

hear me out, there is other people in italy?

[robust creek]

everyone i know left

[sharp drum]

asking that same question because...

[robust creek]

upload

[sharp drum]

oh

wait

im slow

but yeah what about 10 upload

[frigid reef]

its on the edge but it can work

[robust creek]

20 people something like that, i shared with them the app, everyone left now

literally 0 are running it now

[sharp drum]

alright then i guess imma keep it on while using gpu containers

i was told sgs could appear and I had bw sharing on since yesterday

but thats gonna take a while

[robust creek]

if you are in italy it won't work

you need 100mbps upload

[sharp drum]

im in the US

[frigid reef]

please dont share false info

[sharp drum]

so

[robust creek]

it's true

[frigid reef]

you do not need 100mbps in italy

[sharp drum]

ion care about italy rn

[robust creek]

7 people tested it

[sharp drum]

im just wondering will 300 download and 11 upload will make SGS appear in the US?

[frigid reef]

@upbeat shuttle i want what this guy is having

[robust creek]

?

ask developers

[sharp drum]

i mean this is also a small improvement

[robust creek]

i'm 100% sure about it, it has been tested multiple times from different people and different accounts

[frigid reef]

and they will say 10mbps

[robust creek]

different ips

[sharp drum]

how long will it generally take for sgs to appear

in the US

and what does it do again?

[frigid reef]

no idea and you can find out here https://support.salad.com/article/253-what-is-bandwidth-sharing

[sharp drum]

alright apperciate that part but still whats sgs though 😭

im trying to get into bw sharing but i feel like i should know some of the basics about it

[frigid reef]

its the part of the app that handles bw sharing, all the info you need to know is in the pinned messages and that blog

[upbeat shuttle]

I'm not gonna immediately disregard their claims, especially if they've tried and tested it as thoroughly as they said they have. All we know is that the minimum is typically 10mbps. I don't think it'd be too strange if a customer wanted nodes with a minimum of 100mbps.

[robust creek]

and even if i stop talking about static pay, imagine getting paid less than 0,01$ per GB and they use barely 10gb a day

much profit, 100% worth keeping the pc on, and 100% worth runinng salad only when you use your pc when you need wait 6+ hors to get he sgs running when the speedtest reaches at least 100mbps upload

and imagine they increase payout fees xD

wow

this is worth only in uk

remove bw jobs worldwide and keep only uk

so you don't give false hopes at least

[frigid reef]

bro can you just stop complaining, alot of people are earning from bw sharing from many other countries, india, us, and lots of the other countries that are supported

just because you are not

and your friends couldent be bothered to wait a bit

dont start complaning how salad is a bad app

yes it may take a tiny bit, yes there might be a bit low demand in italy and other chefs are getting it

dosent mean it dosent exist

the fact is, us is better then uk for some chefs

[upbeat shuttle]

I wouldn't undermine the issues they're having like that

[frigid reef]

seen them earning more then i do

[frigid reef]

considering i know 3 people in italy earning from bw sharing from my refferal idk

[robust creek]

users with higher speed gets better earnings, no matter if its us or uk

but since no one need italy ips seems, if you have higher speed you st least get something, people with lower speeds doesn't get the sgs at all

[frigid reef]

have you tried contacting #official-support

as if there is a error, you are welcome to talk to them

[robust creek]

the support is useless, they just say "we are sorry we are unable to make you earn how you want, try to get some referrals blabla"

in a more professional way

[frigid reef]

is that what they told you? or just what you think they are going to say?

[robust creek]

about referrals, probably what they gonna say

about sorry we are unable to make you earn how you want, is a reply a friend got on trustpilot

it's still public

check all reviews from italy on salad

[frigid reef]

that is trustpilot, not support and as you havent contacted them, how do you know that is what they are going to say. :D

you should try contacting them, people make them seem alot more useless then they actually are

[robust creek]

well, one of the people i invited got his salad account banned for no reasons saying "fraudolent activity" he also lost money he had in that account

he contacted the support and erika was being an.. i cna't say the word

me and him got angry

congrats banning people

"make sure your pc was not being hacked!"

his pc was perfectly fine and the email he used too, we don't understand what happened and why he got banned

[sharp drum]

@frigid reef Sorry one more question, do you know where in task manager where sgs client will appear?

like from out of these

[frigid reef]

processes

[sharp drum]

alright thanks!

[robust creek]

in other words, i saw the support team is not as nice as you would think anyways, more explainations added to the list of why i'm complaining

[sharp drum]

incorrect i beg to differ

they told me to have a great weekend

[frigid reef]

eh, there is a diffrence to a ban and support with a technical need

[sharp drum]

best words by support

[robust creek]

tell me the name of the person that replied

[sharp drum]

doxxing

[robust creek]

erica is the worst

[sharp drum]

so

no

[frigid reef]

well, no, but sure. if you want to say that. without evidence of how both sides were handling the situation

[robust creek]

someone i know reported an issue, erica scammed him basiclaly , he dind't got any reward even if erica promised the reward

[sharp drum]

proof?

[robust creek]

and erica stopped reply

[frigid reef]

alot of things without proof?

[upbeat shuttle]

I bet I can guess who that was ;)

[sharp drum]

guess the first letter

and i will say if ur right or wrong

[robust creek]

as i wasn't the one involved, i need to get the screenshots from those people, is 2am, so...

maybe i have something hold on

[frigid reef]

M

[sharp drum]

no way

your right

😭

[frigid reef]

mark is a nice man, helped me get added back onto salads mailing list due to a error that happened

and other issues in the past

[sharp drum]

ah thats nice to hear

hes currently helping me cuz my containers will randomly stop and switch to cryptomining for no reason

despite me also have cryptomining blocked

[robust creek]

i can try to contact support tomorrow yes, but if i get erica i quit the chat and try again

2 bad experiences with 2 different people, not good

[frigid reef]

If you get me proof, i can bring it up with staff, but on the other hand, i need proof

[robust creek]

it's too late anyways, those 2 people are not interested on salad anymore, it's not even profitable anymore anyways

[frigid reef]

accusations of support staff being rude to users are taken seriously, if you can get proof of this i can gladly get it looked into, without proof, i have to take the side of salad till then

[sharp drum]

sorry another question @frigid reef If im already running on a container and i enable bw sharing, do I have to stop with my current container so bw sharing can also work aswell?

[robust creek]

it's a thing happened back on october i don't think i have the screenshots in hand, maybe the involved people but are sleeping now

[frigid reef]

nope, bw sharing can start anytime with any other workload running

[robust creek]

is not like being rude because they said bad words

erica only promised reward and never gave it, and also erica never unbanned that account that got banned for no reasons

[frigid reef]

First of all, about the ban, there isn't much they can do about it if the email has been flagged by the system. its just how it works

[robust creek]

that is unfair xD because he was a legit user doing nothing against the tos

[upbeat shuttle]

yeah that is pretty unfortunate

[robust creek]

but ok, you lost an user because of your decisions xd

[upbeat shuttle]

but we've been told there's nothing that can be done beyond that

[robust creek]

eh rip possible users

[upbeat shuttle]

it sucks that it's this way, but I can also see the other side of this

[robust creek]

but flagged where?

[frigid reef]

salads systems

[robust creek]

and why? what happened

what made them flag it

[frigid reef]

they cant tell us much due to it exposing how they find sus accounts

[upbeat shuttle]

idk exactly what is and isn't public knowledge

[robust creek]

sus account? he was a legit user he joined using my ref, my account was ok and still is ok, idk

bugs happening on this thing too then

it was a gmail account so not even a shady odd mail service you don't trust

[upbeat shuttle]

#1178786234307457064

thread name unrelated

thread contents may be

I'm off to sleep

[robust creek]

same

[upbeat shuttle]

@frigid reef you should also sleep :)

[robust creek]

gn bye

[upbeat shuttle]

maybe fix up your insane night owl sleep schedule lol

[frigid reef]

nah not for another hour, got some more react.js to do

[upbeat shuttle]

buh

[shrewd terrace]

i got 20 mbps in india

[shrewd terrace]

anyone help

<@&705192617339781232>

i got 20 mbps

in India

any scope for bw sharing?

[hollow vortex]

Nova... hate to break it but Mods disrespect, and insult chefs all over this server. Its far anywhere near being kept clean

[light isle]

yeah i can second that

[sharp drum]

i mean if it happens then why hasnt anyone risen up and start calling out for a change

[light isle]

i can tell you the salad staff are aware

[sharp drum]

oh yikes

[shrewd terrace]

can i get bw now
Download rate: 23.92 Mbps
upload rate: 50.31
anyone?

[light isle]

answered in #lobby

[upbeat shuttle]

Nova was talking about official support staff, though if you see this behaviour here, you're welcome to report it in #mod-mail

[pulsar arrow]

waw

[sinful rose]

when north korea bandwidth sharing

[light isle]

fr

[sharp drum]

Quick question, if I get a latest NDM log, does that mean SGS is going to appear soon? or i still have to wait longer

[safe loom]

the ndm log is the speed reported when you opened salad, it doesn’t guarantee sgs to just start straight after, it’s just a log for support to find issues when a problem arises

[frigid reef]

for mods, trust me i already am

[gleaming shell]

I think I might have found the reason why my sgs keeps getting fucked over with dial errors so often

It could be my ISP or router blocking some ips

[gleaming shell]

Im not sure how I can find a way to allow the ips

[gleaming shell]

Bruh wtf?

I can't tell if it's my ISP blocking ips or if they aren't, but the ips that SGS logs show when erroring out cant be pinged using my home internet but can be pinged using mobile data

I'm also able to ping the ip using a VPN

[gleaming shell]

I'm having a feeling my ISP is blocking it, but this page says that they dont block access to lawful Internet content and that consumers should have unrestricted access to content on the Internet

[upbeat shuttle]

tried changing your DNS? though idk if that'll bypass it

[jovial fiber]

is it possible to be flagged by a dns because we request like 500 different ip in 5 minutes ?

[peak terrace]

windows does that by default i wouldn't be worried

and that is the whole point of a DNS

[jovial fiber]

when i'm requesting, my browsing speed become so slow sometimes website doesn't even load for apprently dns reason (don't remeber the error)

[gleaming shell]

or it may be some sites blocking my ip?

im able to ping the ips just fine using mobile data and vpn but i cant ping it using my home internet itself

[waxen pollen]

have you checked your IP score?

[gleaming shell]

yeah its at 8 rn

i wanna find a way to get a new ip

[waxen pollen]

Ohh, thats more than fine

[gleaming shell]

i restarted my router last night using thelogin page but idk if im suipposed to do that or actually unplug it for a few minutes

[waxen pollen]

to get a new IP?

[gleaming shell]

yeah

i wanna see if getting a new ip fixes anything

[waxen pollen]

i've read it needs to be at least 30 mins

before it changes. But i've had mine off all night before and still had the same IP. So it's a bit hit and miss

[gleaming shell]

yeah idek if my ip is static or dynamic

[waxen pollen]

and mine is dynamic

[gleaming shell]

i just wanna find a way to get rid if these dial errors

they kill my shit so often

had a 40 cent job before and it died bc of a dial error

[waxen pollen]

Have a gander over to google and see what peeps suggest

you could also contact your ISP and see what they say about it

[gleaming shell]

yeah i might ahve to contact my isp

[shrewd terrace]

i cant get sgs-client running, is it possibly because im on a vm and it cant detect hardware?

i kinda dont wanna run a windows host

nvm looks like im gonna have to

[upbeat shuttle]

Yeah bandwidth sharing doesn't work in VMs

source: myself

[safe loom]

based

[shrewd terrace]

ive been running my salad for a few hours and still no sgs-client on my actual pc, and im in the uk as well is there any guidance for this ?

i even added sgs client to _downloads just in case but nothing

i even have gigabit

[thorny imp]

Is your IP quality good and or is your IP a static one?

Also it took me about 3 days of pc being constantly on to get sgs

For the first time*

[shrewd terrace]

yes my ip quality is good i just restarted my router and got a fresh one

and no its dynamic

[shrewd terrace]

oh damn

do u get jobs regularly now tho?

i was under the impression the uk has hella jobs so i would get one quick

[subtle condor]

It does but they lowered the pay so much it's barely even worth it anymore

I'm guessing because higher demand

[thorny imp]

My ISP firewalled a bunch of shit recenty so i dont get sgs anymore but swapped provider today but it changed tomorrow to that one

[robust creek]

LOL isp preventing this means that it hurts them in some ways

[hollow vortex]

Yeah , I'm not even getting 1$ days anymore in the US , that's with 2 sgs running. Barely getting 60 cents with both active. Only reason I'm still using it cause I leave my laptop for a few other things. Or I wouldn't even bother using salad at all

[hollow vortex]

but i've gotten lucky the past day apparently

[tardy swan]

$0 from bandwidth sharing this month

(Shit server location)

[sharp drum]

yo is there anyway to check your Ip quality?

[upbeat shuttle]

@sharp drum

[sacred mason]

i havent got a bandwidth job in about 2 weeks is that normal i have 500mbps

[thorny imp]

Probably your ISP blocking basic residential IP features like they did for me. Got on a call with them and spent 45 min screaming at them and then magically i got sgs again 👍

[shrewd terrace]

do u know what features exactly could be blocking it?

hi i have community fibre i know its been a while but did ur friends get it working?

its been nearly a day for me and no sgs

[thorny imp]

They messed around with my default gateway and then it worked relativly ok

[mighty light]

In powershell run:

Get-Content (Get-ChildItem C:\ProgramData\Salad\logs\ndm | Sort-Object LastWriteTime | Select-Object -last 1).FullName | Select-String "rate:|Ping:"

[peak terrace]

he got frustrated with community fibre and went back to virgin media

the other one still has it but doesn't use salad

[thorny imp]

the old ISP seems to have limited my Upload to librespeed, makes sense why it wouldnt boot sgs

[peak terrace]

no sgs in a week lets gooo

[peak terrace]

are you sure it's not just librespeed crapping itself with server selection

[thorny imp]

its on finland like normal

tired on the website and its normal there

actually, could be librespeed finland

tried on frankfurt on the website and its 355 uploadthere

508/355

on finland its 522/2.5

[jovial fiber]

Yeah that's just librespeed servers that have random performance

[peak terrace]

can you believe it guys

sgs-client.exe

almost a month away

[upbeat shuttle]

want me to add this to one of the pinned posts?

just don't wanna clutter the pins too much, since people cba to scroll or read

[mighty light]

sure idk, atom just asked me to do that

[upbeat shuttle]

added it here ^^

[frigid reef]

cant wait for salad to find out about the command and say no as its reading logs and people can do it themself

:D

[upbeat shuttle]

I already mentioned reading ndm's logs in the pinned posts and ericka hasn't brought it up (yet)

[thorny imp]

Legit one of the most stupid non-official rules imo, you can clearly see that the code is ONLY opening the newest ndm log and fetching 2 lines, doubt they would remove it but still

Stupid asf imo

[misty furnace]

I mean… ndm is an internet speed test. it literally has nothing to do with anything container related. it’s simply a system information thing

[frigid reef]

Reading is fine, but doing command for it uh oh :O

[jovial fiber]

tbh it takes time sometimes to find an info if you don't know where it is in the pins

[gleaming shell]

Also discord sucks and sometimes doesn't jump to the correct message

[hollow vortex]

That's why a forum is way better then discord , and salad could literally save $ by not paying kids to " try to be a mod"

[safe loom]

discord community builds trust

salad shut down their forums and went back to reddit

you know we’d still have to moderate forums too?

people aren’t going to follow rules just because it’s an official outlet

the top post there was how to use cheat engine on salad

we appreciate the input, but it’s input to something that was already tried and scrapped

[civic fern]

what the fuck

[naive lava]

what does this do

and who are meant to use it?

[gleaming shell]

its just another way to show you the speeds and ping in the latest ndm log

[naive lava]

basically a shortcut?

[gleaming shell]

i think

[misty furnace]

yeah. It’s a small powershell command I made and it does this:

[gleaming ibex]

holy bro thats some good internet

my network is 150mbps stable but it only shows like 12mbps for both download and upload

why

[misty furnace]

Librespeed servers suck. I got lucky with mine

[naive lava]

that's very cool

tks :)

[gleaming shell]

Gotta love libreshit

[unkempt loom]

reset network adapter/pc\

happened to me

often times

when net dies randomly

or weird issue

[unkempt loom]

new pfp look sick, but i miss the blue catty

[misty furnace]

lol, so does prateek

[unkempt loom]

🤣

[unkempt loom]

wut is this actually?

[mighty light]

It's just a script to get the speedtest data from your logs

[misty furnace]

wait I realized the file path had something

can't send that screenshot

[mighty light]

[unkempt loom]

i am gonna be real honest w/ u

[mighty light]

lmao

[misty furnace]

there

[unkempt loom]

i have seen the major reduction in the price/gb, it was insane af, the jobs which i get today use to pay me 5 bucks per day before, it gives like 1.5-2 bucks these days, but hey atleast they have insane high usage of data when u get a job, so i guess that might be the reason of less customers thats why they might be lowering prices to attract more customer

[unkempt loom]

vhnage isp

skill issue brokie :3

*chnage

[robust creek]

more reasons to not come back xd

[unkempt loom]

*CHANGE

[unkempt loom]

yeah

they have reduced the price by a lot definitely

[hollow vortex]

Yeah it's very competitive business as so many vpn prices are cheap as shit per gb or even monthly plan.

[misty furnace]

the main benefit of SGS is the resedential IPs

[hollow vortex]

Myts offers residential . A few others do. And way more ips ,

[shrewd terrace]

2 days and no sgs

[peak terrace]

8 days no sgs lmao

[shrewd terrace]

lol

[sharp drum]

10 days no sgs

but im enjoying my 2.30$ a day till sgs arrives

[peak terrace]

gpu container

[robust creek]

i honestly see salad as a dead business project right now

[gleaming shell]

Isn't this other guy at like month 10 without sgs

Or something

[robust creek]

who?

[gleaming shell]

I forgor

He was here not too long ago

[robust creek]

i know 1 italian guy with 20mbps that is not getting sgs from july (he was in this server idk if he still does)

@civic fern it's here

[hollow vortex]

sgs isnt their main feature, and if it ever was LOL.

[frigid reef]

me restarting my pc and 2nd pc like 50 times and still getting it

[robust creek]

the company is literally begging for people to give access to their gpus

[hollow vortex]

Yeah for sure,

[peak terrace]

they literally were

[frigid reef]

because they have more containers then users

[peak terrace]

they wanted more 24gb gpus

[robust creek]

considering how low they pay, i'm glad

[frigid reef]

6 dollars for 3090 ? seems good for me

[hollow vortex]

yeah but your 15, so any money sounds good .

[frigid reef]

18*

[robust creek]

they was offering me 0,70$ a day for my 3070ti 64gb ram

[frigid reef]

sounds like uhh mining to me or you need to keep your pc uptime higher on salad

[robust creek]

and was using so much gpu that my pc was lagging while watching a 2k youtube video

and it's not weak.

[tardy swan]

Put down the resolution 🤯

[robust creek]

i'm not gonna open this again it's always the same, i just hope they understand that lower they pay and more people leaves, and begging doesn't help

they need treat their current users as treasures, not abuse them

[tardy swan]

Salad is a passive income app

It’s not meant to pay your rent really

[hollow vortex]

minus roughly 1.35 $ for the day in electricity

thats with the average .16 cents a kw.

[tardy swan]

.16 cents 🥹

Do u mean 16 cents

[hollow vortex]

minus the salad store cuts so 50 cents and up per 5 dollars.

[robust creek]

it doesn't even pay back the resources it consumes right now, it's not worth running

[hollow vortex]

so your already down to less then 5 $ for that day.

[tardy swan]

Then don’t run it…

[hollow vortex]

Hes not.

[robust creek]

in fact i'm not running

[hollow vortex]

genious .

[tardy swan]

🤯

[robust creek]

what would i win by running it? 10€ a month? wow but then spend 15€ in electricity, i'm not able to use my pc without lag, my room gets hot and noisy, amazing application definitelly worth running 100%

[tardy swan]

€15 a month for electricity 😭

Be grateful for those prices

[hollow vortex]

a setting chop when idle. its there for reason.

[tardy swan]

Then you accidentally touch your mouse, salad stops a $10 job

[hollow vortex]

oh well.

[robust creek]

electricity consumed by the pc, i actually with it's still much higher than that, need to calculate

[robust creek]

imagine having your pc making much noise and heat while you sleep in the same room to earn 1$ a day xd

[civic fern]

das me lol

well not 10, uh... 7?

[robust creek]

form july

[hollow vortex]

wouldnt be worth it imo. and would not use it. lol

[tardy swan]

What’s the cost per kWh

[hollow vortex]

Im like 13 cents pkw

[robust creek]

0,12209 €

[tardy swan]

Then don’t complain 😭

[robust creek]

it changes, is not fixed

will be higher or lower depending

but still, i don't want my pc being noisy and heating my bedroom for so low money

[tardy swan]

🤯

[robust creek]

maybe 10€ a day i could handle it because it's passive but lower no.

[tardy swan]

Passive income

[robust creek]

the company is running a business and usually the business is advantaging only the owner of that (salad)

[tardy swan]

It’s almost as if companies need profit to run and advertise

[robust creek]

it's it unfair that the company earns the most compared to what they give to their users?

without users they would fail

[tardy swan]

Every company ups their prices

They can’t do a 1:1 ratio

[robust creek]

only 15yo boys will stay because they are happy earning 0,01 a day, parents are the ones paying bills they don't care

[robust creek]

even tho it seems in their eyes that some users stays, most of them will always just leave after seeing poor paying jobs for the required hardware to get them

[tardy swan]

Bad hardware = bad pay

You can’t expect $100 a month from a 1060

[frigid reef]

[robust creek]

0,70 a day.

[frigid reef]

seems like mining not container

[tardy swan]

Same gpu, 32 gig ram, 1.4-2.2 a day

Wait no

I don’t have the Ti

[robust creek]

still low tho

if they give me at least 10 ok use it, if no then no card

[frigid reef]

yeah thats not happening you dont got a 4090

💀

[robust creek]

i rather earn 0 and turn off my pc when i don't need it

[robust creek]

then no card for them

[tardy swan]

You can’t expect $10 from a 3 year old gpu

[frigid reef]

ok leave,

[robust creek]

old, but still powerful enough for their ai things

[tardy swan]

The newest will always have the highest demand, which will pay more

[frigid reef]

i mean, vram though

[tardy swan]

Yes, powerful enough

But not $10 powerful

[robust creek]

i'm sure i would earn close to 10 if their customers would pay ME directly without salad

i conclude the topic now, i don't see it worth so i don't run the app, closed and good night

[tardy swan]

$10 would be 100 hours

[robust creek]

what about the enormous payout fees salad charges?

mention them too

[tardy swan]

I would guesstimate max 20%

[robust creek]

7$ for 5€ paypal

that's a scam

[tardy swan]

Oh for those

Salad needs to make money too

[robust creek]

users too, without users they would not have anything to sell

[tardy swan]

User mines -> user redeems for items -> salad takes a cut

Like every business

[robust creek]

salad is still already taking a % while the users gives his gpu

[tardy swan]

[misty furnace]

it's kinda hard for salad to be profitable because they don't have too large of a userbase and and even smaller part of the userbase is actually making a profit when subtracting electricity

[robust creek]

not more than the users themselves

[frigid reef]

no

[robust creek]

then what's the point running it in the first place, i need an answer xd

[tardy swan]

Passive income

[misty furnace]

for those of us that actually make a decent profit with salad, it's worth running. sure, it's not much, but I make $2/day after electricity. it's profitable for me and all I need to to is leave my pc on

I can still use it while salad is running because I have a lot of ram

[robust creek]

if you guys see it worth making your room noisy and hot for that low amount of money, gg

but for me no.

[misty furnace]

I actually use my pc as a space heater lmao. my room gets cold

[tardy swan]

My room stays under 20 degrees constantly

[robust creek]

then i'm the only unlucky one that from 20°C when start mining for some hours the room becomes 25°C+

[misty furnace]

yeah my room is 18c rn, but if I stop it gets down to 14c

[tardy swan]

Because you’re in a southern country

Warmer country = higher temps inside

[robust creek]

italy xd

[robust creek]

what's your country?

(i guess uk)

[tardy swan]

Norway

[robust creek]

even worse xd

[misty furnace]

ain't norway

[robust creek]

you live in a pretty cold windy and cloudy country, i wish, let's exchange

[tardy swan]

😢

[tardy swan]

It was -20 a few days ago

In the southern part

[robust creek]

you want 35°C on summer? 🙂

[tardy swan]

We get that

[misty furnace]

I live in the US. it's anywhere from -40c to 50c depending on where you live

[tardy swan]

lol

[tardy swan]

Florida

[misty furnace]

florida is humid, but not incredibly hot

arizona gets incredibly hot

[robust creek]

in italy it's sunny even on winter wtf, i hate sunny days i want more clouds right here, i'm like a vampire , i would live better in norway or north countries in general

[upbeat shuttle]

I sleep literally inches away from my PC, I might suggest this is an issue on your end? perhaps involving your skill level? of lack thereof? a skill issue, if you will?

[misty furnace]

it could also just be them using a cheaper cooling "solution" that involves fans jet engines

[upbeat shuttle]

#community-support message @robust creek I want you to read through this conversation I had before about this topic. It'd just save me time so I don't have to repeat myself again

[sharp drum]

[misty furnace]

sounds like a literal skill issue

ozuer is right

[sharp drum]

honesty

[peak terrace]

ozuer

[sharp drum]

if ur running something that you know is gonna make ur pc loud then dont run it?

cope with it?

get quieter fans maybe?

[upbeat shuttle]

that is a point

it's not too difficult to optimise your fan curves

[sharp drum]

^^

or just have it running at a steady 90%

[upbeat shuttle]

or do any other of the many things you could do to reduce noise

[sharp drum]

still doesnt make a sound difference

[misty furnace]

I have default fan curves lmao. it's plenty

[upbeat shuttle]

I'm a 75% max gang

[sharp drum]

yeah i blast my gpu fans to like 100% and theres barely a noise difference LOL

noise nor the heat my pc makes IS not a problem to me at all

[upbeat shuttle]

rn it's got a rattling noise that's a bit annoying, probably a fan dying, but I've slept through worse so I'll look into it tomorrow :)

?remindme 13h look into rattling fan

[glacial fox]

I'll remind you on Jan 25, 2024 06:47, look into rattling fan

[sharp drum]

i had a same issue before but turns out it was my hdd

[upbeat shuttle]

heh I've fortunately entirely phased out HDDs from my PCs now

[sharp drum]

i have my hdd for additional storage so

andd

yeah i might buy an SSD eventually but im fine with 3 tb of total storage rn

[upbeat shuttle]

I recently got a 4tb nvme ssd

[sharp drum]

need me to cope me 1

but not 4

prolly like

2 tb

[crude jewel]

When will Israel be added on the bandwidth list 😭😭

[misty furnace]

when there is customer demand in Israel, support will be added 🇮🇱

[crude jewel]

How do you get customer demand tho??

[thorny imp]

Customers contact salad, if they reach enough demand then it's a high chance of it being added

[robust creek]

#announcements message seems like more begging but ok xd everyone who does this will get the reward or only someone they decide?

ah ok you have to win it, ok so not gonna do that

[upbeat shuttle]

that's how that works, yeah

one $50, many participants, one person wins

[upbeat shuttle]

It's more like if the customer wants it, the customer gets it

[robust creek]

i don't want to harass my followers to get nothing because i'm sure i will not win anything

[upbeat shuttle]

welp that's usually how giveaways work

a give and take relationship

because Salad isn't gonna give it away entirely for free

[robust creek]

i don't wanna risk, let others try

[upbeat shuttle]

okay

[thorny imp]

Make an alt account or something

[crisp furnace]

whyyy

why not in new zealand 😦

but u got australia 😦

[thorny imp]

No demand i guess for new Zealand

[crisp furnace]

bruh

[vale mural]

How much money can one make with this amount of internet speed?

[upbeat shuttle]

I haven't really seen Salad use much more than 300mbps one way, so I doubt Salad would fully utilise your speeds

[misty furnace]

yea and earnings aren't just speed, it's consistent bandwidth

[upbeat shuttle]

the best way to estimate bandwidth sharing earnings is to https://tryitands.ee/

see what your earnings are like, then average it out, see what your highs and lows are

[vale mural]

Not me actually going to the website 💀

[upbeat shuttle]

[misty furnace]

💀

[unkempt loom]

yeah

it true

[gleaming ibex]

y do librespeed servers suck, how am i supposed to earn with 12 mbps down+up

[robust creek]

most profitable thing.

forget 0,20$ a day from salad 🍿

[hollow vortex]

Yeah sure if you actually find that chump change worth your time to actually do it. However my time is way more worth doing other things then surveys for Penny's .

[robust creek]

i can't find a job and i'm free 90% of the day, is definitelly worth it, also i don't stay doing surveys 8 hours a day, the most long surveys are 1 hour but i get paid from 10 to 20£ for those ones

if they were giving me more surveys to do i would definitelly do it

[hollow vortex]

Hour long ? Hellll nah.

[misty furnace]

that's pretty good pay for an hour of work

[hollow vortex]

I wouldn't even push a broom for a hour long for 10.

[robust creek]

my problem is not spending time doing something, i wouldn't mind getting a job that pays me good, my problem is finding someone paying me for doing something XD italy is very broken in this matter

[robust creek]

in italy you get paid from 4€ to 8€ with a normal job per hour

so shut up and i enjoy my 10/20 per hour surveys

[hollow vortex]

Add a zero to the end of that 4 or 8 just maybe .

[robust creek]

you have to consider where you live and where i live, rewards are different in jobs

[misty furnace]

(that's amazing too because you can listen to music or a podcase on the side while taking it, and you're in the comfort of your own home and not doing manual labor)

also @hollow vortex where tf do you think you'll find an entry-level position with no background required that pays $40-80 per hour?

[robust creek]

the only problem is too few surveys, i would definitelly spend 8 hours a day doing them if there would be more

[hollow vortex]

Lol , they are out there , for instances being a ground man for a electric company 40+$

[robust creek]

in italy doesn't exist at all 40€ per hour jobs

[robust creek]

country?

[misty furnace]

ok, then go get that job.

[hollow vortex]

I have no money issues , I bank $ . This wasn't about me. lOL

[robust creek]

the only jobs i see available around me are 400€ a month paying jobs where i work 8 hours a day, no thank you (most of the people at my age don't work in italy and companies complains saying we don't wanna work)

i would gladly spit in their face and tell them, pay me good and i come work for you.

[robust creek]

ah yes you are from uk and earn 99999€ a month with just salad ok you can't say anything about this, stay there

[hollow vortex]

I'm in the US but thanks anyway

[misty furnace]

just ignore tincan. they are always trolling anyways

[robust creek]

in usa a normal paying job pays 3k$, in italy 1200 so shut up 🙂

[hollow vortex]

Idk who you think you are to tell anyone to shut up but certainly not me.

[robust creek]

1200 that becomes 1700 when you are 35+ years old with much experience

[robust creek]

you said that 10/20£ per hour for completing surveys is bad, who are you to tell such things?

it's good for me and i enjoy

[hollow vortex]

Back to bandwidth sharing FAQs.... Take that to #lobby

[upbeat shuttle]

fr

[robust creek]

i didn't wanted to start this conversation , i was a bw sharing user on salad and i gave a comparison of earnings from then compared to now with a non bandwidth sharing site

(even tho salad is passive, you need to keep your pc turned on 24/7, with prolific no) case closed.

[civic fern]

this

and yeah, enough of this lol

[tardy swan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1024154906401193984/1116528942434750564/D8C66E68-2F84-4FF9-BC2D-8D75BC45431B.gif

[shrewd terrace]

How do you do these surveys like which website ?

[robust creek]

prolific but i think that you still can't signup rn

[safe loom]

selling your data for a 100th of the worth, its not a great idea

i wonder if the offerwall command still exists

!offerwall

!offerwalls

😔

[robust creek]

the surveys are anonymous

[upbeat shuttle]

don't all survey platforms build a profile on you lol

[robust creek]

i surely don't care if they know that someone from italy likes pizza sushi or stuff like that in anonymous way, at least they give me good money, not like salad that gives false expectations and gives near to nothing

[robust creek]

you are giving acces to completely strangers of your pc and internet connection, is more risky using salad than doing surveys 🙂

[upbeat shuttle]

crazy biased

[upbeat shuttle]

you set those expectations yourself

Salad cannot predict, and thus does not guarantee any Bandwidth Sharing earnings

[robust creek]

by saying bandwidth is available in italy i imagine earning something, you say minimum is 10mbps upload but in italy it's clearly not 10

[upbeat shuttle]

still not guaranteeing earnings

[robust creek]

you sahred false informations saying 10 is minimum btw

explain why i get sgs with 100mbps and not with 20

[upbeat shuttle]

Customers could require a higher minimum, but the typical minimum is roughly 10mbps

And since those minimums can change at their will, it's not worth my time keeping track of each country / gateway's minimum requirements

I've asked before if some countries have higher minimum speeds than others, and we've just been told that the minimum is typically 10mbps up and down

[robust creek]

i talked with someone in norway (not in this server i know him thanks by a videogame)

sgs wasn't starting if he had lower than 40mbps upload speedtest

italy takes about 6 hours to start, norway instant

(and honestly if salad customers uses those connection for streaming makes sense that 10 is not enough)

[safe loom]

no lol

sce customers dont have any control over the container

they send an image file, salad scans it for malware, its accepted, they get an api that they resolve the results of the image from

i assume the same for bandwidth sharing

its a vpn tunnel

neither of them give access to the customer

survey sites literal hwhole point is to survey you on something, sell your data and survey you again for your data profile of what they think youll like

[robust creek]

vpn tunnel = they get full access to your connection

[safe loom]

you're willingly selling your soul on the internet

[safe loom]

thats not how that works

[robust creek]

if it's salad connecting to you and not them how they can watch netflix?

[safe loom]

it means that vpn tunnels thernet driver is only allowed to contact the server in which the customer requests

which is even more strict than SCE

because they have to be a verified streaming service

like netflix

or a verified cdn

[safe loom]

??

the sgs-client is an encrypted tunnel that communicates with salads sgs api to send throughput to the customers request

idk how you think the internet works but what you're questioning has been thought about by the $22m funded company

[robust creek]

i remember seeing someone using a dating app with my connection idk

[safe loom]

thats literally not possible

[woven sage]

i swear evertime i look at this server its people arguing about the exact same thing

[safe loom]

like thats not what salad allows SGS for

[robust creek]

i wish i screenshoted it when it happened

[safe loom]

the only risk associated with SGS is that you get a temporary lock from streaming regional content if you used your bandwidth to stream for them, but thats uncommon to happen

[robust creek]

i didn't do it because you guys was getting mad at me when i monitored my connection

"noo privacyyy"

[safe loom]

you’re allowed to monitor your connection

idk who told you that you couldn’t

if you weren’t allowed to then salad would encrypt the whole tunnel so not even you could tell

[peak terrace]

11 days no sgs

lmfao i think i know why now

[safe loom]

its not accurate

they're full of shit

the second you sign in and pay it starts reporting 0

[peak terrace]

[safe loom]

and they justify it by saying "the free trial doesn't provide an in-depth analaysis"

so they get away with saying every ip is blacklisted so you pay money

[frigid reef]

oh no, anyway

[frigid reef]

mine is the same

and uhh yeah 👍

[gleaming shell]

your sgs dosent upload?

[frigid reef]

it does, but glasswire is weird and dosent pick it up for some weird reason

[gleaming shell]

oh