charred flume
gives nausea to all players within 8b and can be crafted into suspicious stew for 10s nausea effect. will generate in jungle biomes attached to large trees and resting on the floor
can be placed on any "sturdy" face and drops instantly when not supported, broken by hand or pushed by a piston. bees can pollinate and eat it and it drops a copy of itself when bonemealed
very very stinky
i know the model is a little bit janky but it's hard to do fivefold rotational symmetry in a minecrafty way
i think i did really well considering, and i like looking at this thing :3
the first image is actually slightly outdated. i thickened out the petals in the second one slightly. i won't ever get it perfectly seamless with the diaphragm part in the middle because i'm trying to fit a pentagon onto a square
hazy glen
What happens if you step in it?
charred flume
nothing, it's just a normal flower
the diaphragm part does have collision, tho
actually i might make the whole thing have collision
charred flume
added R. hasseltii today
halcyon wolf
nice I have a custom plant inspired by the rafflesia in my mod too 😎
charred flume
awesome!
charred flume
update on this: i'm still calling them corpse flowers but i'm taking some fantastical creative liberty with the designs. instead of being R. arnoldii and R. hasseltii respectively, i'm calling them "verrucose" and "painted"
might add more species in the future inspired by real ones, but i will continue the naming scheme of "[adjective] [plant]"
heavy bane
Cool! I have this flower in my rainforest mod Canopy, but I really like how your version looks and its implementation!
charred flume
thank you so much!!! it's such an inspiring flower. it's not surprising so many people have made their own versions <3
hazy glen
thank you so much!!! it's such an inspiring flower. it's not surprising so many ...
I think that practically everyone who makes a jungle/plant-themed mod has something similar to this... back when I added mine, I still thought I was being unique. Good job on yours, though!
-# Mine produces a stink cloud when broken, so there's at least that... that probably is a less-common feature.
charred flume
that's a cool idea
hazy glen
I think it's interesting that yours inflicts nausea in a radius; how did you implement that? A block entity?
charred flume
i want to think of a way to domesticate the flower and neutralize its stench. i might implement some form of selective breeding mechanism
hazy glen
How do you duplicate the flower currently?
charred flume
just bone meal, tall flower-style
i want to move away from bone meal in this mod tho
hazy glen
What's your alternative?
charred flume
not sure yet
ideally i would imitate a realistic plant lifecycle
pollination, seed dispersal, germination
hazy glen
That could be challenging.
hazy glen
I would caution you to keep performance in mind when you're working on it, since it's a lot easier than redesigning a system after the fact when it takes your ticks per second into the fractions.
I speak from experience.
charred flume
my goal for this mod is to fill out the empty parts of floral ecology and focus on ways to integrate plantlife into the behavioral patterns of local fauna
i am going to make a fly as another pollinator (for the corpse flower specifically)
first time i've ever made a mob
hazy glen
Oh, that actually reminds me; the primary effect given from breaking a "Stinking Blossom" in my mod, Stench, has the practical use of making the player less noticeable to monsters--they think you're already dead from the smell.
charred flume
THAT'S SO INTERESTING
hazy glen
-# The effect is named Stench, not the mod.
hazy glen
I was trying to figure out something useful for them, since I didn't want to add something purely for decoration.
charred flume
i've thought about integrating this mod into farmer's delight, so i can use the cutting board to like dissect the plant and extract resources or whatever
hazy glen
Just remember to keep it simple enough for people to figure out without Googling.
-# And remember that people won't have the advantage of knowing everything you do about the mod already.
Anyways; I'm signing off now for the night/increasingly-less-early-morning, since I lost track of time. Feel free to ping me if you want my thoughts on any ideas or features.
charred flume
irl, the petals of R. kerrii are eaten as delicacies, medicinal agents and even aphrodisiacs in thailand and malaysia where it's found. i could mimic that somehow with a petal you could collect if you cut a corpse flower on a chopping board
maybe it would give you absorption or something
just make you feel really good xd
charred flume
Just remember to keep it simple enough for people to figure out without Googling...
counterpoint: have so many interactions for it that "whether x works" doesn't have to be a question.
does it make sense to eat? would someone coming across it wonder if it's edible without having to take themselves out of the game to look for an answer?
show, don't tell. that's my principle. i wanna let people discover on their own
that's how you get across to someone's inner child :>
charred flume
Anyways; I'm signing off now for the night/increasingly-less-early-morning, sinc...
no worries, take care and sleep well. for what it's worth i will keep posting about the corpse flower and its developments here
thanks so much for showing interest <3
this mod so far (aptly called "axia's world" as it stands) adds some plants i grew up with and that interest me. i am getting help from my grandmother who knows more about plants than i
she's humble enough that she wouldn't admit she's helped very much, but i put her in the contributors metadata!!
charred flume
today i learned that rafflesias produce fruits
my interpretation from what i've read is that the "petals" (actually "perigon lobes"--i've fallen for the common trap 
) turn black and drop off, leaving the diaphragm part in the middle. eventually that closes up and becomes round
this thing is so extra-terrestrial i swear
charred flume
i'm making a fly that spawns around corpse flowers and pollinates them :3
it's so small and fluffy :3
i've never made a mob before, so this is an endeavor to say the least
charred flume
probably chunk generation, natural spawning and breeding
unlike bees, flies don't make nests irl. they lay eggs
they're like tiny white tubes
for that i'm thinking of having a multiface block
charred flume
walk cycles are so hard to make
charred flume
the infestation................
charred flume
they are so patient and polite :3
next i will make fly eggs and maggots
and then the trifecta will be complete :3
also i need to make these circle around, and spawn near, corpse flowers
charred flume
i feel like i might be able to condition myself to not be uncomfortable around insects anymore
these flies move in a weird and erratic way, but they're also really cute
rotund rune
I think this might actually increase some people's fears of insects lmao
At least we have another reason to get bane of arthropods
*peoples'
charred flume
they have flight animations (kinda gross) and idle animations (adorable), and the idle one always plays when they touch the ground after flying for a bit
so its like
EW EW EW aww 🥰
charred flume
At least we have another reason to get bane of arthropods
yep, i added them to all relevant tags
including frog_food 
charred flume
i have an idea to make them more annoying
what if like, if you hit them normally you just wave them away. like they're immune to normal attack damage
you need a fly swatter to WHACK them dead
it acts as a weapon with super high knockback
and kills them with blunt force
charred flume
here are the ideas for bluebottle ai:
they can fly, walk, idle, breed and swarm.
if they passively travel between two points, they'll fly if the distance is too far. otherwise they will walk.
they swarm around points of interest. swarming involves staying a certain distance away while rapidly choosing new target positions nearby. might implement boid motion? the points of interest are:
if they've been bred and need to lay eggs, they will find a place to go. they like dark places that have a high chance of harbouring undead mobs (i guess the lore could be that there's still rotting residue left over from where zombies roamed before)
they can lay up to 4 egg clusters in a single spot. i've made a more granular alternative to flowerbed/leaf litter mechanics, where you can place the four quadrants in any order
each egg cluster can hatch 1 or 2 maggots, each of which will grow up into flies
so like... if the flies breed you'll get an infestation which you will need to clear
bluebottle eggs have a "persistent" state that, similarly to leaves, stops them from hatching if you pick them up w silk touch and place them down again. so you can use them for building if you want
bearing in mind i've literally never made a mob before, ai this complex will be a challenge lol. i'm struggling just to get them to pathfind in a way that doesn't suck
i want them to be cute but a little gross and easy to get annoyed by
@hazy glen you asked me to ping you for feedback
heavy bane
bearing in mind i've literally never made a mob before, ai this complex will be ...
Yeah good luck that will definitely be challenging depending on your java skills
charred flume
i'm self-taught but i like to think i've been doing this for long enough that i can make it work
eventually
given some time and attention
maybe a little bit of stealing from open-distribution projects :3
hazy glen
<@1012335594942255304> you asked me to ping you for feedback
In class at the moment, sorry; if I don't give feedback in the next six hours please ping me again.
charred flume
you got it, thank you
charred flume
@hazy glen ?
hazy glen
<@1012335594942255304> ?
Thanks. About the idea: I like it. I would also suggest, if you can do this, making flies attack zombies. When they do so, they should enter breeding mode. That way, they can reproduce on their own.
The behaviors that you've described do sound difficult to program; best of luck with that!
charred flume
i thought about that, but it kind of goes against the "disasters must be the player's fault" principle i think
perhaps they breed if they find a valid food item on the floor
actually, i'm gonna ignore that principle and backpedal to a degree that feels appropriate once i have something
for what it's worth, they could breed passively until they reach some form of local cap. a bit like how villagers mate until all the beds in their village have assignees
i like the idea of implementing pest control lol
breaking the eggs is not worthwhile if you haven't got rid of all the nearby flies. likewise, killing some flies is pointless if you've missed some eggs, or at least 2 flies are still alive somewhere
hazy glen
for what it's worth, they could breed passively until they reach some form of lo...
That’s what I was thinking.
charred flume
yeah, i think i would rather do that than implement an attacking behavior
charred flume
okay, i have them following zombies as well as flying around corpse flowers
i needed to disable their ability to push the zombies because... when i tell you that zombie was like a hovercraft
it had like 20 flies pushing it from all angles
so now flies will only push each other
hazy glen
Will they eat zombies?
charred flume
no they just follow them
tbh i prefer it that way
it means you're more likely to stumble across a swarm of flies following a zombie which is exactly the level of detail and immersion i'm aiming for
hazy glen
Makes sense. So flies can't breed on their own, then?
charred flume
they will be able to
they'll do it passively when they have no other commitments
i need to think about how to do it technically speaking. i just know i want them to fill some local cap
you can force them to breed by feeding them rotten flesh or corpse flowers, but they will do it on their own if there aren't enough flies in the area, whatever that means in the long term
like i say, more thinking required 
this is so much fun
i've been watching this for a while
i should say: this works for all mobs in the #zombies tag
or rather, all mobs in my own tag "#smells_rotten" which contains #zombies
halcyon wolf
this is so epic
charred flume
charred flume
the follow zombie goal and tempt goal have the same priority so you'll need to like, kill nearby zombies to have any chance of luring them somewhere xd
heavy bane
That's awesome, flies following zombies seems like it would be super cool in game
I almost want to see a variant in the nether as well for the zombified piglins
charred flume
hmm, maybe
charred flume
i'm slowly learning about mob goals
i discovered that i can reduce the time they spend hovering between pathfinding attempts by changing the "interval" number
i changed it to 10. something low
now they have very little downtime before moving again
they still hover around corpse flowers instead of swarming like i envisioned. i have some loose ideas that i still need to try
i'm kinda getting lost in the weeds a bit though. i might work on maggots before screwing around further with the grown ups :3
charred flume
smal :3 --outdated texture
charred flume
finalized the maggots today, i would say
i've done a lot
i also added "Bottle of Bluebottle" for moving them around
i mostly added it because it sounded funny
since flies and maggots are at the bottom of the food chain, i made a handful of mobs attack them on sight
cats, dogs, frogs and foxes right now. that also involved moving the prey types for those mobs into tags so i can add more in the future without hardcoding
last progress update: i have this image from today
they sit on the flower instead of hovering above it, which i think is a much better result
hazy glen
they sit on the flower instead of hovering above it, which i think is a much bet...
I agree. Impressive work!
charred flume
thank youuuu
charred flume
i improved the infrastructure for adding looping sound instances for entities, e.g. fly buzzing
but also maggot crawling, which now has a sound
https://pixabay.com/sound-effects/film-special-effects-d0-maggots-17258/
i need to increase the pitch though
charred flume
the model for the corpse flower is absolutely ridiculous because of the five-fold symmetry
i had to make it with the "generic model" blockbench format first, and then convert it to a block model
charred flume
farmer's delight compat :3
hazy glen
Ha. That's funny.
charred flume
organic compost is probably very stinky
hazy glen
Depends on what's being composted.
charred flume
well, one of the two recipes contains rotten flesh
stark merlin
Did you know that Rafflesias are actually a parasitic plant?
I found it out here: https://www.britannica.com/plant/Rafflesia
charred flume
in particular, they feed off species of the tetrastigma vine
stark merlin
Have you figured out how to implement terastigma into the game?
I'd like to see the result.
charred flume
i haven't. i can't see them being very different to the normal vine
i think vines are abstract enough that you can impose your own meaning onto them
i made it possible to attach rafflesias to walls and ceilings, so i guess the rest is up to player interpretation :>
charred flume
okay, i'm back at this again now that extensible enums are a thing
i added a custom mobcap!
for flies
i kinda realized that having them breed passively is just a more complicated version of normal mob spawning
so, a mobcap is exactly what i wanted actually
the creature cap is too small and the ambient one doesn't make sense for a mob that actually plays a part in the ecosystem