Grizzly and Black bears

[waxen rock]

Basically rescue the idea of this old mod that added them and Pandas to up to 1.12.2.

Of course, Pandas and Polar bears were already added by Mojang, so Grizzly and Black bears are the main target here.

Since i'm not from the lands these giants are native to, i'm not totally sure in what kind of biomes they would spawn, let alone how they could differ from vanilla polar bears. But i bet grizzly bears would spend time on rivers catching salmon, right?

The linked mod describes them as:

• Black Bear - Found in forests
• Grizzly Bear - Roams the hills and plains

[nimble yacht]

a black bear that would eat your crops and rip food out of your chests if they can get to them would be funny

[waxen rock]

oh this would be amazing

[nimble yacht]

if you get one of those horns or a loud object to scare them away as well

[tough helm]

Black bears would likely spawn in a wide variety of temperate forests. Also, they aren't really that large.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_black_bear#Habitat

[nimble yacht]

Yeah that's true black bears should also be in taiga

And all the other forest types

Besides jungle obv

[true kite]

chonky :3

[tough helm]

But alarmingly fast when provoked. Black bears are among the more peaceful of bears, but from what I understand they're not of the sort to be poked while they sleep!

[tough helm]

What sort of features did the original mod have? I'm curious.

[waxen rock]

my memory is fuzzy about this mod, but what i think it does was to duplicate the polar bear with grizzly bear skin and spawn in forest/taiga biomes

nothing much elaborate

but bears are cool

[tough helm]

I concur. Which of these textures do you prefer for brown bears? I can't promise anything, since I really should've spent this time working on homework, but I'd like to make this happen.

[waxen rock]

i think the first one

have more detail

more aligned with modern jappa-esque design

[tough helm]

Slightly improved version.

[waxen rock]

even better

[tough helm]

The irony is that the other one is a straight recolor of modern polar bears.

[waxen rock]

😬

i think the eyes could be more wolf-like

[tough helm]

The shaggy fur makes it look much better, though, in my opinion - especially when compared to images of brown bears!

[waxen rock]

idk

[tough helm]

I think the eyes might look good how they are, this is what Wikipedia has:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_bear#/media/File:2010-kodiak-bear-1.jpg

[waxen rock]

yeah, you have a point

[tough helm]

Now, on to black bears. I might revisit the brown bear texture to add grizzly and nanulak variants, but that's for another day.

[waxen rock]

nanulak is polar-grizzly hybrid?

is this even possible within minecraft (two different mobs mating)?

[tough helm]

One name for it. It's my favorite of the options because it sounds the coolest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grizzly–polar_bear_hybrid#Naming

[tough helm]

Mule.

[waxen rock]

or you will add grizzly and brown bears like biome variants of the polar one?

[waxen rock]

ah i see

[tough helm]

I was considering adding the variants as separate entity types.

[waxen rock]

forgot about equines

[tough helm]

Inverted polar bears, just because I thought they looked funny.

The third one there might actually be a decent one to build the black bear out of, now that I'm thinking about it.

[waxen rock]

Isn't the third more bluish in white spots?

The second one seems to be more neutral

[tough helm]

Wait, hang on. Ordering isn't necessarily consistent between devices.

[waxen rock]

BTW I'm in my phone with blue filter activated

Oh I see

[tough helm]

So your third isn't necessarily the same as mine.

[waxen rock]

I hate androids discord

[tough helm]

Black bear, maybe? Early draft - literally, seeing as it is now over an hour past midnight!

[tough helm]

@waxen rock , what version did you want, by the way?

[waxen rock]

1.21.5

[nimble yacht]

Kid named mule

[tough helm]

Any special behaviors you want the bears to have? Or should they basically be polar bear clones?

[tough helm]

I do like this idea. Which crops should they go after?

[nimble yacht]

hmmmm

wheat, sweet berries. honey, carrots, potatoes

basically all minecraft crops lol

black bears eat anything

anything that is a food in miencraft

[waxen rock]

cat's idea is something to consider i think

also make them eat salmon

they love salmon

perharps if one is angry player can appease it using salmon

[tough helm]

Fair enough.

[waxen rock]

like when we get too close to cubs

[tough helm]

I am definitely thinking about how they might be pacified.

[waxen rock]

i talk about grizzlies btw

[nimble yacht]

black bears also will but they usually forage easier foods

[tough helm]

I don't think grizzlies can necessarily be pacified, and anyways those aren't necessarily going to be in the first draft (I'm starting with normal brown and black bears, subvarieties later).

[nimble yacht]

with black bears if you steal the cubs you could

[tough helm]

That is true, but also probably unethical.

[nimble yacht]

true you dont do unethical things in miencraft

[tough helm]

I'm currently working on letting black bears forage.

For future reference: how much bear meat should bears drop? Each bear meat item will be worth the same food value as a steak.
Brown bears should probably drop more than black bears.

[tough helm]

Well, it turns out that bears aren't actually that large. They are, in fact, smaller and lighter than cows.

So, they should probably drop less meat.

[waxen rock]

never thought about it, tbg

but leather (even it being implicit that is cow leather) should be one of the drops

since people use bear hides for stuff

[tough helm]

Oh, certainly; I was considering a separate bear hide item that could be used for decoration or crafted into leather.

But, that can be figured out later - they can drop leather for now.

[waxen rock]

since different mobs drop the same item - i think this "irrealism" is within limits of vanilla aesthetics

i think they added a separate rabbit hide just because of the size of that mob

[tough helm]

Okay, now I just need to make black bears run away from loud noises, add a loot table, and add translations, and I think I'll have a good first draft of black bears.

[waxen rock]

i can translate to portuguese if you have interest

when you make the en_us lang file just send me that i will send the correspondent pt_br

[tough helm]

Great, that would be perfect.

Fun side effect: breeding two black bears immediately results in getting clobbered by two new and very defensive parents!

[tough helm]

Black bears will now panic and flee when you play a goat horn near them.

[waxen rock]

speaking of goat horns scaring mobs...

[nimble yacht]

yeah

[nimble yacht]

sick

[tough helm]

In case you wanted to see it in action.

[nimble yacht]

nice

[waxen rock]

the poor bear dart away when he heard the horn xD

[tough helm]

What sort of animals should black bears prey on?

They'll only attack animals if they're hungry.

[waxen rock]

first i think on small animals

chicken, rabbits

perharps pigs

dont know about cows and sheep

[nimble yacht]

black bear dont eat to many animals

maybe like chickens

[nimble yacht]

they can smell up to 2 miles so basically if rendered should try to get to the food

so any chests and stuff if they can get to it lol

[tough helm]

The problem with that would be the lag whenever a bear searches the entire loaded area.

[nimble yacht]

hmmm true

[tough helm]

Hmm... now what should bear meat look like?

[nimble yacht]

i dont know

i will askgoogl;e

[tough helm]

It looks like it's a darker red meat.

[nimble yacht]

yeah that is what i was thinking

from looking at them

[tough helm]

This is a pork chop retextured in my tentative color scheme. What do you think?

[nimble yacht]

thats basically exactly what i was thinking

[waxen rock]

i like it too

[tough helm]

Bear meat color schemes in-game. I think I need to work on the cooked meat scheme a little more, what do you think?

[waxen rock]

if you want to distance more from cooked beef, then go ahead

i like the way it is already

[tough helm]

Okay. At the moment they're using the pork chop pattern with a new color scheme; is that all right for right now?

[waxen rock]

yep

really like your dedication

thanks a lot

[nimble yacht]

yeah its crazy

i really like it

[tough helm]

This will also be available for Forge and NeoForge, by the way, once it's done.

[tough helm]

Forge black bears are functional. I think that's all for tonight, I'll do NeoForge black bears tomorrow. The only things that needs doing (to my knowledge) for black bears are the translations (which I will handle later) and adding them in to spawn in the various forest biomes.

Then I'll do brown bears, which ironically should be easier since they have less fun functionality.

@waxen rock think I should rebalance polar bears while I'm at it?

[nimble yacht]

tbh you can probably find stuff fun about brown bears i just dont live next to any lol

[waxen rock]

dont think its necessary

they only spawn in polar biomes

[tough helm]

By rebalance I meant changing the size slightly, increasing their attack damage, making them more aggressive, and making them drop bear meat and leather when killed.

[nimble yacht]

Yeah I was thinking them being so passive in vanilla is dumb

[tough helm]

Note to self: actually make the item, block, and entity tags for what bears can eat.

[tough helm]

Also, what's your opinion on this?

[waxen rock]

aah i see

i liked it

[tough helm]

Maybe I'll see about putting the changes behind a config.

[tough helm]

To do:

• make brown bears dislike having their personal space invaded
• ditto for polar bears, conditionally
• conditionally modify the loot tables of polar bears on Forge and Fabric (NeoForge is done)
• conditionally enhance polar bears' size and attack damage
• actually make the item, block, and entity tags for what bears can eat
• add translations

[tough helm]

So. I've just learned that Fabric does not have a built-in configuration system. While I've already got the NeoForge and Forge sides properly configurable, this will make working on the Fabric part take longer.

[nimble yacht]

Yeah you've gotta have mod menu I believe

[waxen rock]

Mod Menu + ClothConfig as dapendency

https://modrinth.com/mod/modmenu/

https://modrinth.com/mod/cloth-config

actually there's a myriad of libraries to manage config on fabric

his is another option:
https://modrinth.com/mod/yacl

but maybe this would be prefered for your case
https://modrinth.com/mod/forge-config-api-port

[nimble yacht]

Prob use the forge one to make it simpler for yourself I'd think

[waxen rock]

as much i hate that library (crashed a couple of times with other mods in the past on my pack) yeah, its the best option for him

[nimble yacht]

Thoughvi have no experience modding anything Minecraft so could be completely wrong

[tough helm]

I can use Mod Menu and Fabric API, if that would be easier.

[waxen rock]

i dont know your setup, is a multiloader one?

if this is the case, forgeconfigapi is the best bet i think

better to ask in #mod-dev-1

[tough helm]

Configs are per-side.

So I can use whatever config library is most convenient for you on Fabric.

[waxen rock]

if this is the case, please cloth config

lots of mods use that already

if you cant figure out that lib, yacl then

[nimble yacht]

Yeah that's true

Real even

Would be even more real if mod could be on 1.20.1 😭

[waxen rock]

https://shedaniel.gitbook.io/cloth-config

[waxen rock]

Hero?

[tough helm]

Sure, I'll work on that when I'm done with 1.21.5.

[nimble yacht]

Thanks lol

It's not too bit of a deal I have a ton or crappy fabric animal mods. The animals are just unrealistic and passive in them

I wish I could help but from skimming through a YouTube video Minecraft modding seems incredibly confusing compared to modding paradox games 💀

[tough helm]

Funny, I feel the exact opposite way. Paradox modding looks very confusing.

[nimble yacht]

That's funny

[tough helm]

For now, I'm just going to not do a config. Maybe that can be a later update or something. It seems that the config solutions I've found don't load early enough to do what I need them to - on any platform.

[nimble yacht]

Yeah isk why someone would mess with it anyway

Seems unnecessary

Well I'm not op so I'm not the guy to ask but my opinion

[tough helm]

Brown bears will now get properly angry when you invade their personal space. They also hold grudges.

[tough helm]

Polar bears are now (nonconfigurably) much less of a pushover.

They can be killed, but they're extremely tough and do a lot of attack damage. They also don't like it when players get too nosy and stand too close to them. So, they will now act as a proper natural hazard.

Size comparison: the brown bear is the size the polar bear used to be.

Next up will probably be:

• spawn eggs
• item, block, and entity tags for bear food
• send translations to Vico
• publish?

[waxen rock]

i think it is

[tough helm]

Of course, spawn eggs will be more difficult now since they need fancy art. Not too hard, just a little harder.

[waxen rock]

tbh, at start a recolor of polar bear one is enough

later you can work in make something fancy

[tough helm]

I was thinking the same thing, to start with.

I've just never made one in the new style, so I'll need to put a little more work into learning it.

[tough helm]

Okay. Textures done. That's all for tonight. Actually implementing the eggs goes tomorrow, if I have time (which I very well might not).

[tough helm]

@waxen rock If you want to help out with translations, here's the English translations file.

While you're working on that, I need to make the bears spawn naturally. Then I think the rough draft will be mostly done!

[tough helm]

Notes: add bear meat to appropriate item tags.

[tough helm]

Correction! Important! That has an error.

It should be this instead; note the lack of pluralization in the food tags.

{
    "bearminimum.configuration.rebalance_polar_bears": "Rebalance Polar Bears",
    "entity.bearminimum.black_bear": "Black Bear",
    "entity.bearminimum.brown_bear": "Brown Bear",
    "item.bearminimum.black_bear_spawn_egg": "Black Bear Spawn Egg",
    "item.bearminimum.brown_bear_spawn_egg": "Brown Bear Spawn Egg",
    "item.bearminimum.bear_meat": "Bear Meat",
    "item.bearminimum.cooked_bear_meat": "Cooked Bear Meat",
    "tag.item.bearminimum.black_bear_food": "Black Bear Food",
    "tag.entity_type.bearminimum.black_bear_prey": "Black Bear Prey",
    "tag.entity_type.bearminimum.black_bear_forage": "Black Bear Forages For",
    "tag.item.bearminimum.black_bear_food": "Brown Bear Food",
    "tag.entity_type.bearminimum.black_bear_prey": "Brown Bear Prey",
    "tag.entity_type.bearminimum.black_bear_forage": "Brown Bear Forages For"
}

[tough helm]

A black bear in its new natural habitat. Taiga biomes feature both kinds of bears; black bears spawn in meadows, taigas, and forests, while brown bears tend to spawn in colder and more mountainous biomes.

[waxen rock]

will start translating it asap

[waxen rock]

this one actually

[tough helm]

Great, I was just about to point that out.

Going fishing!

[tough helm]

Anyways, Fabric is ready for testing. (Neo)Forge will take a little bit longer, since they use a different system for adding spawns.

[tough helm]

Forge is ready for testing. NeoForge should be as well if I didn't mess anything up, but I've yet to confirm that.

Discord might be glitching for me; for some reason, I can't see the member lists of this forum post anymore. I'm not sure why that is, but hopefully you can still see my messages.

[nimble yacht]

Yeah the discord was being weirs for me earlier as well

[tough helm]

Ah, it seems to be working again.

[tough helm]

To do: add bear meat to proper tags (minecraft:meat) and bear foods to c:animal_foods.

Now I'm tempted to make a "bear bones" monster, but that would be out of scope for this mod.

[waxen rock]

like an skeleton bear?

[tough helm]

Precisely.

Also.

I got this rather funny image.

[waxen rock]

i hope this works with Realistic Bees

[tough helm]

It ought to.

I don't see why it wouldn't.

[waxen rock]

i would like that idea

are you planning a regular hostile mob, a mini boss or a proper boss?

[tough helm]

No plans yet, just a funny pun name. Like I said, probably out of scope anyways. I'd like to get this version published, then do a backport, then maybe do a skeleton bear.

[waxen rock]

question about "Forages For" tags

are these blocks that they break to eat?

[tough helm]

Yes.

[waxen rock]

{
    "bearminimum.configuration.rebalance_polar_bears": "Rebalanceamento de Urso Polar",
    "entity.bearminimum.black_bear": "Urso-negro",
    "entity.bearminimum.brown_bear": "Urso-pardo",
    "item.bearminimum.black_bear_spawn_egg": "Ovo Gerador de Urso-negro",
    "item.bearminimum.brown_bear_spawn_egg": "Ovo Gerador de Urso-pardo",
    "item.bearminimum.bear_meat": "Carne de Urso",
    "item.bearminimum.cooked_bear_meat": "Carne de Urso Assada",
    "tag.item.bearminimum.black_bear_food": "Dieta de Urso-negro",
    "tag.entity_type.bearminimum.black_bear_prey": "Presas de Urso-negro",
    "tag.entity_type.bearminimum.black_bear_forage": "Coisas que o urso-negro procura",
    "tag.item.bearminimum.black_bear_food": "Dieta de Urso-pardo",
    "tag.entity_type.bearminimum.black_bear_prey": "Presas de Urso-pardo",
    "tag.entity_type.bearminimum.black_bear_forage": "Coisas que o urso-pardo procura"
}

my attempt to a pt_br translation

this need to be saved as a UTF-8 .json file, btw

i concede that the tag translations arent much i would like

but after playing a while and getting know exacly what they are i can improve it

[nimble yacht]

prob also make it euro portugese as well incase anyone has that enabled so they can see some portugese as well

[waxen rock]

there is differences between the dialects

i'm not sure the terminology is the same

[nimble yacht]

ok

[waxen rock]

plus Portuguese really don't like to be mistaken for Brazilians

or have us making translations for their dialect

dont know how is the relation between british and american english up there

[nimble yacht]

im thinking more like. imagine a portugese person plays this. has game set to euro portugese. and sees it just as english (because minecraft defaults to that when no translation i believe). then assumes the mod is english only

so i am thinking better to have something recognisable than just english (again i have no idea how different the dialects are)

[waxen rock]

well, its up to @tough helm if he decides to duplicate that to pt_pt too

[nimble yacht]

yeah

i was just giving my thoughts

[waxen rock]

but i will not be responsible for possible hate tugas will do for a different portuguese in their lang

Since you are the only other brazilian guys in the server, @forest ravine and @tight mortar, sorry the ping, but what do you think of Startraveler using my pt_br translation also for european portuguese (pt_pt)? Will Portuguese get mad?

just to know

[nimble yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1323708050422497371/1329565430293069835/1EA8ABD8-5519-45D7-9524-932D25DD6A90.gif

[tough helm]

It looks like Discord may not have transferred the file correctly, if so? All I'm seeing is standard ASCII characters on my end.

[waxen rock]

ah i didnt use things like çãá and such

[tough helm]

Ok, I didn't know if those were supposed to be there and were somehow removed.

[waxen rock]

ah i just mentioned it because en_us generally is encoding as ANSI while international langs are in utf-8

in other mods the case

[tough helm]

Okay, a friend of mine just made a really good suggestion. Pillager bear jockeys.

[waxen rock]

interesting

[nimble yacht]

sounds cool

[tough helm]

I also think the first draft is fully done and ready for testing for 1.21.5 Forge, NeoForge, and Fabric.

Want me to create a CurseForge page and let you know when it's been approved and reviewed so you can try it out?

[waxen rock]

i prefer Modrinth

[tough helm]

As a matter of fact, I might make this the project logo. What do you think?

[waxen rock]

dont use curseforge for ages

[waxen rock]

i like it

[tough helm]

Fair enough. Only reason I suggested CurseForge is because it has quicker review times.

I was planning to put it on both anyways, as I have friends who only use CurseForge for whatever reason.

[tough helm]

@waxen rock submitted for review on Modrinth and CurseForge. I'll ping you when it's up for public access, though that's probably not going to be till next week.

[tight mortar]

I don't know much of differences it may have, but Portuguese kids are already very familiar with Brazilian...

[tight mortar]

Is this all the text? If so, it may be fine. Better look at pt_pt strings to see the minecraft things like "Ovo gerador" if is the same

[tough helm]

Yeah, that's all the text. This is deliberately a very small mod.

@waxen rock Now available on CurseForge, still pending on Modrinth:
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/bear-minimum

[nimble yacht]

Sorry I only doenload mods from 9minecraft

[tough helm]

Unfortunately, I won’t be voluntarily uploading the mod to 9minecraft, as I feel that advertising my mod on that site would not contribute positively to its reputation.

[nimble yacht]

I was joking lol

[forest ravine]

i'm pretty sure we are not

its pretty normal to reuse ptbr translations to ptpt, or otherwise

its better then having no translation at all

[tough helm]

Well, if anyone does try this out, please let me know if you have any feedback.

[waxen rock]

will download and try asap

[tough helm]

Whoops - looks like I left the default "hello world" printouts in the mod!

I'll see if I can release a new version in the next few hours.

That shouldn't affect the content of the mod any though.

[tough helm]

By the way, I made a version for 1.19.2 as well.

[tough helm]

I don't know if you've had a chance to try this yet or not; if so, what do you think?

[waxen rock]

oh sorry for still not test the mod

i'm having some irl issues and get demotivated to play in my modpack

plus the awesome snapshot just get dropped

[scenic widget]

i’ve been reading thru, i’m from Louisiana where black bears are native they’re usually a good bit smaller than grizzly bears if yall are trying to be authentic

[tough helm]

Already done! The polar bear is scaled up from its original size.

[scenic widget]

amazing

[tough helm]

(Brown bears are the size polar bears used to be, black bears are 25% smaller than that, and polar bears are 20% larger than that)

[tough helm]

By the way - any suggestions for how I could make grizzly bears unique? I'd like them to have at least one behavior that no other variety has.

[tough helm]

Also, what do you all think of adding bear caves? Would that feel vanilla-like? My goal here is to have all of this feel as vanilla-like as possible.

[waxen rock]

i really like the scale too

[waxen rock]

as structures in the world? would be interesting

but i wonder a way to have loot on these without having chests (lol) on them

[nimble yacht]

maybe add a couple iron ores

[tough helm]

I was thinking that they'd generate as rare features in some biomes - they'd contain a single grizzly (or whatever other type of) bear, along with whatever small amount of loot I'd figure out how to add to them.

[tough helm]

I like that idea.

[tough helm]

@waxen rock , thought I'd let you know. The current version of Bear Minimum, 1.0.1, is incompatible with the Animal Feeding Troughs mod.

I've released potential bugfixes for 1.19.2 and 1.21.4, but not 1.21.5. I'm having increasingly significant hardware problems. My computer tries to overheat whenever I run Minecraft or de/compile large projects, so I wasn't able to test those versions.

[waxen rock]

oh

thanks for let me know

maybe change the thermal paste

of the processor

[tough helm]

I'd like to get a 1.21.5 bugfix released as soon as possible, but it's the middle of finals and I need my computer to last the week. As far as I can tell, it's a problem with the fans and possibly with the GPU; it's under warranty still (I got a really nice deal on that!) so I'll probably send it in to get repaired.

Anyways, hopefully you don't need to use the Animal Feeding Troughs mod.

[waxen rock]

dont know why sometimes i add that mod to my pack

when i try to use that it just cause mayhem

mobs multiplying exponentally

will remove it

[waxen rock]

hope you can get it resolved

it's so bad to be without your computer when most needed

[waxen rock]

btw perharps @fervent orchid (author of animal feeding trough) could help in some way?

[tough helm]

I don't think there's a need for that, honestly. It's a really simple thing to fix on my end, now that I know what sort of assumptions Animal Feeding Trough is making.

[waxen rock]

ah i see

if you want to commit what you think it would be the fix and leave to me to compile (i think its just gradlew.bat build?) and test

to not overheat your pc

[tough helm]

At the moment, I appear to have an unrelated problem where IntelliJ won't even open.

I'm not sure why that's happening; it just freezes and won't close unless forcibly shut down via task manager.

[tough helm]

1.21.5 has the bugfix now. I'm proceeding with caution.

[tough helm]

You should be able to add it back in now.

[tough helm]

Well, if you want to download it from 9Minecraft, they've apparently taken the matter into their own hands.

[nimble yacht]

lol as they do

who is it that uploads all the mods onto there

anyway

[tough helm]

Probably a bot scraper.

Also, by only opening the game for a short time and waiting for things to cool down afterwards, I've managed to get 1.21.1 released!

[waxen rock]

🎉

just as i started to consider switching back to that version due to lack of CC:Tweaked on 1.21.5 😢

[nimble yacht]

they know their audience 💀

look at those auto fills

[tough helm]

I've only gone to their site precisely once; to see the page they had for Bear Minimum.

[nimble yacht]

i did like 5 years ago when i would google mods and bruteforce through the adfly links to find stuff

[tight mortar]

Those probable where generated by the most searched

[waxen rock]

that Jenny?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naFM2YP88SY

[nimble yacht]

i just realized how crazy it is that you play latest version modded. what is even updated that far?

[winged sparrow]

both more than you think and not a lot
https://modrinth-statistics.tobinio.dev/charts?versionGroup=minor&versionFrom=1.20.1

[nimble yacht]

wow thats cool

forge is really dying

and quilt... i fail to see the point in anyone modding for it lol

[winged sparrow]

oldforge at least updated to 1.21.1+, which is more than i can say for quilt

[nimble yacht]

19 people said their mod is for 1.21.5 quilt

[winged sparrow]

you can say that if you want to

[nimble yacht]

yeah just like all the version 1.0 fabric mods it shows as well

[winged sparrow]

doesn't change the fact QSL hasn't updated in months

[nimble yacht]

does curseforge have a statistics thing to view like this as well? since they have much older mods on there?

you can really tell when modrinth became popular

[winged sparrow]

there's cflookup, but it doesn't do minor versions
https://cflookup.com/MinecraftModStats

[nimble yacht]

cool

ive always assumed the most mods was on 1.12 or something i didnt think they were all on 1.20.1 the most

or 1.16 at all

[winged sparrow]

minecraft's become more popular over time, and most people aren't going back and modding old versions

[nimble yacht]

yeah thats true

[nimble yacht]

btw meant 1.12

[waxen rock]

already have ~92 mods in my mods folder, and 48 on mods_client (mods that don't load on dedicated servers) plus a couple of optionals like REI and Mica (for Windows 11 window effect)

mostly are small vanilla+ mods, or kindly gifts from the guys like @tough helm and @hallow goblet

but the major one for me is CC:Tweaked, that i'm afraid Squid will abandon soon due to the drastic changes Mojang is doing each drop

plus i'm looking for years for any mod that would implement a system similar to TrainCarts plugin from Spigot, that would allow me to make autonomous railways with minecarts

but unfortunately nothing cames close to TC concept

[winged sparrow]

more likely he'll just drop latest and stick with 1.21.1

[waxen rock]

perharps #1306817136584429569

[waxen rock]

i would stay in that version if the creaking backport mod didnt bug worldgen

[winged sparrow]

eh, flatworlds being broken by worldgen mods is just something you get used to

[waxen rock]

no no the problem is the following

the way they "injected" the pale garden biome to the worldgen basically turned every preset into default

even large biomes (that is the one i play most)

[winged sparrow]

yeah they do that

[waxen rock]

well even modded presets like survival island

[waxen rock]

wouldnt be possible to make an approach like BoP does?

they inject their mods but don't mess up with presets

terrablender i think

[winged sparrow]

sure, if you feel like rewriting the entirety of the worldgen and dealing with terrablender's own quirks

[waxen rock]

dang

just remembered i did https://discord.com/channels/507304429255393322/1343235506653368360 because of this

[tough helm]

@waxen rock I'm working on 1.20.1 today and tomorrow for this mod.

Oh, and this mod has also made it into a few modpacks, which is awesome!

[waxen rock]

incredible

[tough helm]

(Figured I should put this here to show the latest update, for people scrolling through the chat)

[waxen rock]

just updated here in my end

really lovely textures

[tough helm]

Someone also made a vanilla-esque texture pack for this mod, if you want to use that.

[tough helm]

1.21.7 is out.

[waxen rock]

@tough helm sorry the ping, but do you have plans to bring this to 1.21.11?

Also merry christmas

[tough helm]

Merry Christmas to you as well! I was thinking of skipping 1.21.11 and going straight to 26.1, but I could try porting to .11 if you’d like. Just, you know, probably not today!

[waxen rock]

of course, enjoy your holydays!

[tough helm]

Ah, found the thread again. This is updated to 1.21.11, in case anyone was wondering. Happy new year!

[tough helm]

I'll update to 26.1 whenever I can (within the constraints of the multiloader template I'm using updating), though don't expect new baby models right off the bat; those will take more time.

[waxen rock]

gotcha

i dont know if vanilla polar bears also got a baby model actually

[tough helm]

(I saw your post in https://discord.com/channels/507304429255393322/1323413899134894123, so I thought I'd forestall your question regarding this.)

[tough helm]

They did, as far as I know.

I'm pretty sure everything did.

(Including Striders, which look like beetroots.)

Seriously, they do.

[waxen rock]

poor things

[tough helm]

Updated to 26.1; no new baby bear models yet.

[waxen rock]

oh just added your mod to my pack, thanks a lot