Looking for artists!

[bright cobalt]

This is my mod that adds more frog variants - Frogged. https://modrinth.com/mod/frogged Currently, it adds a golden poison frog, and a blue poison frog. I'm looking for an artist that could help make textures for yellow and blue froglights, and potentially also texture for a sandy frog.

[terse heron]

Are you using the vanilla frog model?

[wise pendant]

loved your mod

[bright cobalt]

Yeah

Also, I'm currently supporting the mod for 1.20, and 1.21.4

[terse heron]

How's this for a blue froglight?

[terse heron]

And this for yellow?

[bright cobalt]

Awesome! They look great!

How can I credit you on the modrinth page?

[terse heron]

Credit me as Startraveler if you'd like (my Modrinth profile is https://modrinth.com/user/startraveler). I'm about to try working on the sandy frog texture, though it might take me a while. I'm not the best at entities. The froglights were easy since I just hue-shifted some of the vanilla ones.

What sort of sandy frog do you want?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_sand_frog

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand_toad

[bright cobalt]

common sand frog looks nicer, but sand toad is shaped more like a minecraft frog, so you choose

[terse heron]

I'll go with a cross of both.

[terse heron]

How's this for the base layer, before the spots are applied?

I basically just recolored a green frog to tan, and I'll add the spots on next.

[terse heron]

This is what I have so far, with spots added. What do you think?

I'll be away from my computer for a bit, but I can update the texture as desired when I get back.

[bright cobalt]

Looks good!

I have to say doing the base layer first is very smart

[terse heron]

Sorry for the delay, here's the texture. Is there anything else you want/could use textures for?

[terse heron]

If you want other varieties of frogs, I could also help with that. Just let me know! They don't actually seem that hard, especially if I can recolor a pre-existing frog type as a base layer.

[terse heron]

I just found out about a weird type of frog. Unfortunately, it would require a different model, so it's probably out of scope. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myobatrachus

[bright cobalt]

Cool!

[bright cobalt]

Here's it in the game

[bright cobalt]

I made the sandy frogs spawn naturally in beaches, but will also be sandy frog if it spawns from spawn egg in desert or badlands

[bright cobalt]

Could you also make a orange-ish froglight for the sandy frogs?

[terse heron]

Sure, I could do that. I think brown-ish would be best, though, because the ochre froglight is already orange-ish.

[bright cobalt]

You're right

[bright cobalt]

I will try to add a model field to the existing frog variant using a mixin

It would be cool for those to appear in water caves

[terse heron]

I'm not entirely happy with this. Could you see how it looks next to the other froglights? Luminous brown is hard, since it's basically dark orange.

If you're making any more brown or tan frogs, I highly suggest assigning them a different color of froglights. There's not much more space on the orange/yellow continuum.

[terse heron]

I'm afraid that this texture is too similar to the existing ochre froglight as it is.

If you're open to multiple poison dart frog variants, have you considered this one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranitomeya_amazonica

[bright cobalt]

Here's all of them side by side

Maybe a more reddish hue would help it stand out.

[terse heron]

Alright - I'll add a dash of red, and report back.

[bright cobalt]

I forgot I have to fix the froglight advancement

It will be so much more difficult now :D.

[terse heron]

How's this?

[bright cobalt]

one moment

[terse heron]

I added a touch more red; if you'd like, I could also make a fully-red froglight.

[bright cobalt]

I have to convert them to png

[terse heron]

They are already .png files.

[bright cobalt]

It downloads as webp

[terse heron]

That's very odd.

[bright cobalt]

Probably discord

[terse heron]

It shouldn't be doing that...

Ah well, Discord being Discord I guess.

Sorry.

[bright cobalt]

i think if you post a picture, it comppresess it

no worries

macos has a button to quickly convert it

[bright cobalt]

I'd say it looks better now

close up comparison

[terse heron]

Yeah, that's definitely better.

Also, will you need a bright red froglight?

[bright cobalt]

maybe

looks like the new cactus flower from the snapshot

[bright cobalt]

If we were to add this frog, it would probably have a cyan colored froglight

[terse heron]

Want me to work on the texture for that frog? It would be an interesting challenge, though I might not finish today.

[bright cobalt]

That would be great!

However, its a lot more colorful than the ones I've added, so it will certainly be a challenge

[terse heron]

I'll do a multi-stage approach, so I can ask for feedback as it's progressing. First off is the blackish-blue base texture.

[bright cobalt]

Cool!

I will work on the custom variant models now

[terse heron]

Unfortunately, I have no idea what the underside of this frog species looks like, so... that could be a problem. I'll just extrapolate to smooth black.

[terse heron]

Base coat.

I took the green frog, hue-shifted to deepest blue, and then darkened it significantly. Hopefully, it should have a striking contrast with the orange.

[bright cobalt]

Nice!

The eyes should probably stay the same though

I decided I won't make the custom model variant of the turtle frog for now

Mojang did not make implementing custom models easy

[terse heron]

Yeah, like I said. It's a little out of scope, so don't worry about it!

Almost done.

[terse heron]

How's this for a rough draft?

The legs are a little vibrant; I could tone them down if you'd like.

[bright cobalt]

Maybe make a leg textures a little smoother

I made a red one myself, how does it look?

[terse heron]

Okay. The reference image had lots of spots on the legs, hence the noisiness.

[terse heron]

Do you have a reference image to compare it to? That looks pretty good. I'd recommend adding another tone of red, personally. Can you get a picture from another angle?

[bright cobalt]

No, I just took the blue one and swapped the blue shades for red

[terse heron]

I think it would definitely look better with an intermediate shade of red mixed in there alongside the other two, and maybe with slightly larger spots.

Of course, it's up to you.

[bright cobalt]

actually, I should have found a reference first

this one looks really cool

[terse heron]

Also - if it is possible to do subtle shading on the black part, that would be even better.

I found these two as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantasmal_poison_frog
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantella

It might be cool to have the red one be solid-color, what do you think? That way it's a very obvious "I AM DANGEROUS!" warning.

[bright cobalt]

For now I'm sticking with this one, although it will be a challenge for me to texture.

The blue legs should contrast really well with the body.

[terse heron]

Oh, here's the texture for this one.

[bright cobalt]

I have to go now, so I'll try it later

[terse heron]

No problem. I'm signing off about now as well.

[bright cobalt]

What do you think I should call this one?

[pliant briar]

Nice mod 👍

[terse heron]

What are the other ones called?

[terse heron]

(Just for comparison)

[bright cobalt]

Blue, yellow poison dart frog

And sandy frog

[terse heron]

I don't know, really. How about "Variegated Poison Dart Frog"?

[bright cobalt]

Good Idea!

[terse heron]

How many frog types were you planning to add?

[terse heron]

Oh, also: would this work?

[bright cobalt]

Of course!

[bright cobalt]

Not really sure yet

I've been thinking of adding one that naturally spawns in lush caves

[terse heron]

Isn't that just an axolotl?

[bright cobalt]

Currently, the only naturally spawning one is the poison dart frog

[bright cobalt]

Also what I thought

I want to find cool places for some to spawn in, where they wouldn't be out of place

[terse heron]

Sandy frog would work in deserts, probably. Preferably near water.

[terse heron]

If you were to add that, what sort of frog would it be?

[bright cobalt]

Something bright, maybe with fluorescent spots

Sculk biome could be interesting

It would be more like a collectible, as it would be strange for frogs to spawn everywhere.

[terse heron]

Want me to try that? I have some experience with Sculk creatures.

[bright cobalt]

That would be great!

What sculk creatures have you made in the past?

[terse heron]

Mostly just this little guy, but I've textured and animated some different sculk blocks before.

[bright cobalt]

Very cool

As I understand, Minecraft doesn't support animated entity textures, right?

[terse heron]

Unfortunately not.

It's very annoying.

[bright cobalt]

What about emissive pixels?

[terse heron]

Possible, but it would require adding a layer to the model.

In other words, possible but difficult.

[bright cobalt]

Oh

I didn't know entity models were so limited

[terse heron]

They are, unfortunately, quite limited. Oh, and some of the translucence/emissivity combinations are totally broken.

[terse heron]

It'll probably take until tomorrow or the day afterward for me to get the sculk frog done, since I've got other - more urgent - things to do.

[bright cobalt]

Nice👍

[pseudo crag]

Nice froglights

[terse heron]

Sorry... still haven't even started on this. I completely forgot, I've been busy.

I may have slightly overcommitted on some things.

[bright cobalt]

Don't worry, you don't have to do it

Requests are free after all

[terse heron]

I'd like to do it, I just didn't have the time - and I budgeted what time I did have to other projects. Sorry.

[terse heron]

Frog.

[bright cobalt]

Great!

Very menacing frog

[terse heron]

It's got lighter spots scattered on its body - feel free to add more to the desired shinyness.

[terse heron]

For this one, I did something I've been thinking about doing for a while: completely inverting the colors of an existing froglight. In this case, it was the ochre froglight.

Very simple to do, very interesting effect.

I'd like to see what this froglight looks like in game, just out of curiousity, when you get it implemented.

[bright cobalt]

Ooh

[bright cobalt]

I'm quite busy today, so I will unfortunately only be able to implement it later.

[terse heron]

I'll send the other inverted ones, in case you want more spooky frogs; let me know what biomes to associate them with, and I might be able to whip up a texture. If simple recolorings are fine, then it probably won't take too long per frog once I sit down and do it.

Anti-pearlescent:

Anti-verdant:

[bright cobalt]

Actually, the froglight for the sculk frog would look a bit better if it was hue shifted to sculk colors

[terse heron]

Sure, just a moment.

[terse heron]

Is this closer?

[pseudo crag]

Now we just need that weird inverted light setting lol

(setting light levels outside the regular values)

[terse heron]

Now that sounds interesting, do you have a picture?

[pseudo crag]

There was a picture of a light level 16 I saw once in this discord, but I don’t remember what the context was

Ah, here we go

#mod-dev-2 message

[terse heron]

Ah, this?
#mod-dev-2 message

[pseudo crag]

Yep

[terse heron]

So... what happens if you set higher than 16?

If it actually spreads darkness, ringed with light, that would be extremely cool.

I may need to play around with this. Thank you.

[pseudo crag]

I think it would be fitting for this type of froglight

Shaders would probably hate it though

[terse heron]

Definitely.

If it doesn't crash them, that might be even cooler.

They might have patched this, actually.

Ah, wait - I was using Sodium. I'll try without.

Okay. It looks like the block does not darken the area around it; it just doesn't actually make it brighter.

[pseudo crag]

If you place multiple together, they become dark

[terse heron]

Doesn't that only work with partial blocks, not full blocks?

[pseudo crag]

Oh, that's true

Try placing a torch next to one and see what happens

[bright cobalt]

Wow!

They look really cool

[terse heron]

Awesome! That’s what I was hoping they’d look like.

[pseudo crag]

Hmm, can we give them emissive sculk lighting (or whatnot)?

[bright cobalt]

I don't think vanilla allows doing that

I think the mod continuity lets you make emissive textures

[livid plaza]

im pretty sure it does

[terse heron]

I think you can, but it makes the whole block emissive.

[livid plaza]

yeah, you can specify parts of the model to be emissive

heres a thread i found that explains it a bit more
https://www.reddit.com/r/mcresourcepack/comments/1gan286/1211_update_light_emission_how_to_use/

[pseudo crag]

IIRC at least one of the sculk blocks do it

[formal cave]

still need spriter?

[terse heron]

Ah, I'm glad to see this updated!

[terse heron]

Need any more frog textures? I'm running a little low on ideas, unfortunately.

[terse heron]

Anyways, ping me when you're thinking about the next update!

[terse heron]

@bright cobalt , just thought I'd ask; how's the project going? Are you planning to update to 1.21.5?

[bright cobalt]

I haven't worked on the project much since our update, and haven't updated to 1.21.5, since I'm not using it yet. I can update it to 1.21.5 easily if we need to.

[terse heron]

Hey, how's this going?

I thought I'd check in, since it's been a few months.

[bright cobalt]

I'm terrible at keeping things going after I first release them 😭

But I will try to update it to 1.21.8 or whatever the new drop is

[terse heron]

Any progress? You also might want to review the environmental metadata on Modrinth, since they changed a few settings a few months back.