but I'll make a backup and retry from start just to be sure
#🔩┃trilogy_modifications
frozen burrow
STCoP is supposed to work with atmosfear, absolute nature and absolute structure right ?
xrCore seams to be the source of the crash
frozen burrow
3.2.0.1
this one
Ok, fresh install, I've got Atmosfear, Absolute Nature and Structures, all up to date, and perfectly working, backing up the game folder
Ok, without adding the bin folder the game launch correctly but weapons don't appear on screen
(I've removed the shader cache
neon socket
you need to install stcop last
frozen burrow
That's what I've done
frozen burrow
It fully works now ??? I've done exactly the same thing, must be a corrupted file ?
don't know, but now there is a new problem, wireframes on weapons
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frozen burrow
It's worse than I thought the wireframe bug is on all actors, weapons, and some objects too ><
if it was only on weapons no problem, but it's really to much to play a full playthrough, when using STCoP on CoP vanilla I didn't had this bug, don't know if I missed it or what but its unplayable in this current state
tribal yacht
STCoP uses a engine edits so if any of those mods make changes to the bin folder it might not be compatible, or you need to install STCoP last not first
grim echo
Is your shader's folder empty?
frozen burrow
yup
urban sable
what are some good mods i can get for SoC that don't affect the storyline
green gorge
AMK 1.4
hybrid estuary
modding newbie here, if I want to install two mods what do I do with the two gamedata folders? Do I just put them both in?
green gorge
which two mods? Almost all mods are completely incompatible with one another
hybrid estuary
a mod to disable headbob (console wouldn't work), and pripyat reclamation patch. Then I was also going to try out the 'First run enhanced' mod pack
green gorge
I'm unfamiliar with those, but you can try mixing the gamedata folders together with headbob being the last one, but chances are it's not going to work
hybrid estuary
thanks. so just put all the contents of the gamedata into one?
green gorge
yes
hybrid estuary
I can't seem to load the same save file from before I installed the mods, but I can make a new one. Is this normal?
tribal yacht
yes
hybrid estuary
damn. is there any way to fix? or do I just have to start over?
tribal yacht
just gotta start over unless you uninstall your mods
most mods will not be compatible with an existing save game
hybrid estuary
cool, thanks
weary anchor
So I'm trying to finish Call of Chernobyl in story mode, but I couldn't clear the Pripyat 1 objective. How do I do that?
frozen burrow
I'll go with STCoP 3.1.0.8 I think, I've found a version wich run nice with AF3 and AS4, I've managed to get STCoP 3.2 working properly with the patch, but the camera is set to close to the weapon when you zoom.
does someone have the changelog to know what I'll lose with this rollback ?
grim echo
Wasn't 3.2 the first time when open scopes were implemented?
tribal yacht
PiP
green gorge
Demosfen might have been the first CoP mod to have PiP scopes
The first full fledged mod to have PiP scopes for the stalker series might have been New Arsenal 6
neon socket
Hey people
i need help
im stuck in Wind Of Time
at the Red Forest bridge
when you come from Limansk
how can i get through?
neon socket
you have to go another way
neon socket
i made it
grim echo
Alright boys, I'm doing it
Despite my stigma towards old stalker maps
I'm downloading the anomaly mod
neon socket
anomaly suck
neon socket
Free play is super boring in stalker
grim echo
Well, I agree
neon socket
I suggest spatial anomaly and OGSE
neon socket
Spatial anomaly is a cop based mod that has it's own storyline, yes
but OGSE is essentially a Shadow of Chernobyl+ version of soc
mostly vanilla storyline with new sidequests, and very overhauled overall
grim echo
Might just try out the Anomaly for now and switch to the Spatial Anomaly later
deft venture
When it comes to the calibration tools in Spatial Anomaly that you get in the Cordon, how do you get it without pissing off the stalkers sitting by it?
neon socket
you don't
it wont have negative repercussions on the story though]
so either run or gun them down
deft venture
is there a mod that lets me pick up bodies in CoP?
green gorge
you mean a mod that only adds that feature?
earnest granite
Hwat
deft venture
Yes
To my knowledge, you can't drag corpses in CoP
but you could in ShoC and CS
I want my movable storage unit, darnit 
earnest granite
I think you can actually drag corpses but if the npc's equipment is full you can't
urban sable
im pretty sure if you hit shift+f on a corpse you can drag it
tough oar
shadow of chernobyl best mods?
neon socket
hmmm
Oblivion lost remake, autumn aurora, OGSE
under no circumstance should you play lost alpha or stalker complete
if you want soups, so Narodnaya Solyanka 2016, or OP2.1, also known as Joint Pak 2
tough oar
Thanks was about to install one of them
neon socket
Lost alpha is garbage, it claims to be a faithful remake of stalker's design documents, but it adds an awful skill system and adds garbage fanfiction style illuminati stories
Oblivion lost remake is an ACTUAL faithful remake of the original Stalker: oblivion Lost
neon socket
@green gorge bad word on preview
tough oar
what the best Clear sky mods, and call of pripay besides call of cheryble
surreal juniper
after a lot of time put in a lot of mods, misery is the one who gave me the besy experience
best*
not sandbox as coc but as i said before it immersed (?) me more than the others
green gorge
Clear Sky modding scene is not very good due to its instability
for Call of Pripyat, I recommend:
- Call of Chernobyl by stason174
- Valley of Whispers
- Spatial Anomaly (probably, haven't played it yet)
- Dollchan 7
tough oar
havent heard of these i take a look at them thanks to both of you @green gorge @surreal juniper
boys i can find fsgame.ltx in clear sky
neon socket
hold up
it's in the root folder my man
i cant send mine because its modified with OGSM but its just in the root folder
tough oar
uhh what the hell is a root folder? invisible files@neon socket
ohh found it
nvm lol thanks
green gorge
think the root of a plant, it is the first thing
neon socket
root folder is just the base folder for the game
ie the folder named "stalker clear sky"
tough oar
yea got it thanks so much @neon socket @green gorge
clear pelican
Wha... How...? How much space does this all mods takes on Your PC?
green gorge
Total of 260GB including my installations of all the vanilla games
green gorge
waiting for update
I have to make sure I don't run out of unique icons I find on the web
most mods don't come with their own icon
jaunty dragon
this is perhaps my MOST favorite mod
Dead ait
Crap cant send screenshot here?
kek
green gorge
oh good
green gorge
I know what it is, there are some cool things coming in the future for it
but no 64-bit is worrysome
I will expect out of memory crashes
plus I dislike Misery but I can always remove Misery stuff from it if I end up liking it
jaunty dragon
oh yes it has a lot of memory crashes
It crashes every 50th quicksave for me
so after I quicksave 50 times, it just dies
simple herald
@jaunty dragon You've played Anomaly and you prefer Dead Air?
green gorge
green gorge
I prefer CoC by stason174 to both of them right now
but my favorite mods are OGSE and OLR
jaunty dragon
@simple herald Though I may have a bias for Dead Air since "LifeOfBoris" reviewed it once haha
maybe I'd have liked anomaly if boris reviewed it
Misery 2.2 I didn't like very much since my system couldnt handle for some odd reason, and the weird thing is that Dead Air runs perfectly for me on 1080p but Misery was like "nah screw you imma make it take 20 minutes to load a save"
Question about dead air: Is there some sort of FPS cap in dead air? I disabled vsync but it still seems to run at 60 fps for me. turned down resolution, same fps. Can you disable the fps cap, (if it exists)?
green gorge
yeah Misery always had insanely long loading times, and aside from that I just hate the inventory clutter; carrying hundreds of little items with no inventory filtering for repairs
so some Stalker mods have an option to cap FPS to 60
or it's just called "Refresh Rate 60 Hz"
if you don't see that in options, then look in its appdata folder's user.ltx file for it
jaunty dragon
Ohhhh alright i'll tweak around in the .ltx file
The only thing I found is "Refresh Rate 60 Hz"
so im assuming disabling that will remove the cap
green gorge
yes
jaunty dragon
ok and I noticed another glitch, Whenever I load a save. My music volume in the sound settings just automatically gets turned down to 0 for some odd reason and I have to constantly re enable it
simple herald
I find long load times to be a lot more tolerable with MISERY since there's only 4 maps
when theres 30+ and you're constantly getting load screens, it needs to be quick
green gorge
Creative Labs Environmental Audio Extensions, usually does nothing unless you have a Creative sound card
enables 3D sound spatialization and environmental audio effects like dynamic reverb
tough oar
I loved sgm like i feels it perfect any mods like that tried missery kinda hated it wait to much.(walk into area screen blue die in 2 sec) Any mods like SGM
gonna try anomyla looks good
green gorge
I played SGM 2.2 a while back, it was like Narodnaya Solyanka but for CoP
tough oar
played solynka long long time ago
but SGM just added all the great part without changing it too much
guess i not into crazy Immersion
green gorge
SGM was definitely more boring than the soups I've played
moved along much more slowly and just didn't generate much interest for me
grim echo
Oh my God
I've just discovered that killing friendlies with landmines doesn't qualify as homocide
green gorge
AlternativA FactA is the best mod
warm ruin
Machine translation + a bit of hand-translation coming soon for AlternativA 1.3.2™
green gorge
AlternativA FactA 1.3.2*
name your translation that please
pretty please
from one Monolith to another
green gorge
done
tribal yacht
drowsy wyvern
Sell your soul
green gorge
can't wait for the S.T.A.L.K. H.E.R. Predator mod
tribal yacht
Not sure where to post this but my discord has a group on moddb now that'll get updated with mod releases / repacks for stuff that isnt already on it: (most of them machine translated)
jaunty dragon
anybody got an explanation for this crash? http://prntscr.com/p24e5m
I have several addons installed but this crash didn't occur until recently
green gorge
I'm guessing you meant to post this in the Amomawy discord
green gorge
same thing 
storm kraken
There wouldn't happen to be an add-on for COC that adds a few new locations would there? Or maybe something that gives a bit of life to that MASSIVE complex under the Generators map?
green gorge
I think you need to play this version of CoC
https://www.moddb.com/games/stalker-call-of-pripyat/downloads/stalker-call-of-chernobyl-1422-by-stason174-v603-eng-main-files
It doesn't add new locations, but revises and improves them
e.g. Cordon and Garbage are now one level, with further edits making it more like pre-release Garbage like in Lost Alpha
and A-Life is way better and more dynamic although I don't know if that complex has smart terrains or not
storm kraken
That sounds sick, I'll try that out on my actual calculator of a PC
green gorge
it's CoC's normal English which is hand made, MLR 8.3's hand made translation, and then whatever wasn't touched by that is machine translated (which is VERY little)
warped cliff
Nice
Damn
I know what I'll play
And ignore my advanced biology
Yay
But man
Stasonium was standalone from CoC?
green gorge
yeah it's a standalone download, two downloads actually
and then there are like 100 optional mods
or more
200
pretty sure it has more addons than CoC 1.4 itself
tribal yacht
just read the moddb description
neon socket
Is lost alpha worth it?
warped cliff
Depends
neon socket
imo no, play OLR if you want a good build experience
however if you must play lost alpha
play lost alpha directors cut
avoid LA 1.3 like the plague
orchid berry
It's mostly something like "Oh, this exists... Nice, I guess"
green gorge
Lost Alpha = great level design, terrible writing, the world is way bigger than the amount of content it has so you can get bored even if that content was actually good, crappy skills system
not recommended
orchid berry
I remember when the devs actually had to give hints, because they his a key too well
storm kraken
Anyone ever played Golden Ball?
green gorge
I'm waiting for the translation
the hand translation
then I will dip my balls into that pot of gold
storm kraken
Try the auto-generated translation, it has some gems
green gorge
I do have some experience with machine translated mods
I know what they're like
they make me laugh and cry
I did a machine translation for NLC 7 Build 3.0
storm kraken
Honestly, I loved Golden Ball but the broken Gauss rifles those invisible dudes drop have NO purpose, I dont think you can even sell them
green gorge
the guy who wrote Golden Ball/Goldsphere wrote a lot of stuff for other mods
he is the best writer in the stalker community
Jekan
his work can be found in OGSE and others, and he has other mods
storm kraken
Oh and question for the room, I'm mostly a COC player because I enjoy the Freeplay open world model but I was wondering if there were any other packs or mods that have the loads of weapons and items a packrat crazy person like me would enjoy
tribal yacht
try Stason's CoC I hear it has a lot of stuff
boredgunner has it reuploaded and translated on moddb
just google it
or anomaly if you just want a lot of bloat items
storm kraken
Thanks!
tribal yacht
also if you like Goldsphere, Jekan (the creator) has another mod called Survivor: Escape from the Zone for CoP
It's a pretty short mod but it has some really unique survival mechanics
I don't think you can find it on English websites but I have it repacked and machine translated on my spreadsheet:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GgBFCRIbc7TQ5DwWHvWaridX1G64PYoWItkLyr3pBPk
Goldsphere is getting a hand translation so soon everyone will be able to appreciate it in it's full glory
green gorge
since it's short, hopefully it gets translated
tribal yacht
Maybe one day, it could use some tweaking and an upgrade to the few weapons it has honestly
If I knew how to rebalance things I would remove ability for NPCs to have grenades (it ruins the balancing hardcore) and just do some tweaking to weapons in general
You feel a tad too useless compared to other enemies
green gorge
I just found Jekan in OGSE again
neon socket
yo yo yo
ive been playing narodnaya solyanka 2016 and i've been wondering if there is any way to change the fov
i got a weapon pack installed with it but every fov changer ive used so far made the game revert back to the original guns
any help?
neon socket
the fov changer most likely changes a file that the weapon mod uses to actually change the weapons
hardy sequoia
A good mod for SoC? Less on the visual garbage side more on the "mod that actually adds gameplay" side?
Friend asked, been years since I played it, hell, I remember playing it vanilla
green gorge
OGSE 0693 with OGSE Weapon Expansion Project is as good as it gets, granted the latter is coming out in a week or two
some of the best mechanics in the series and it also adds a ton of side quests, that are again some of the very best in the series and far better than vanilla
and it (along with other OGSR engine mods) is the most technologically advanced SoC mod due to OGSR engine
man we really need an english NLC 7
hardy sequoia
I should try downloading SoC again and giving it a go
green gorge
that doesn't even require SoC, it's totally standalone
neon socket
I'm tempted to just download a boatload of anime and just slap it on the TVs around the zone
Because I m m e r s i o n
tribal yacht
the tvs in stalker arent playing actual videos. its just several images lined up frame by frame, so have fun putting that together
grim echo
@green gorge Sorry for pinging you, but is there any way these merged Garbage and Cordon maps could be implemented into Anomaly?
green gorge
I misspoke and meant merged Cordon and Darkscape
but only the Amomawy devs can do this
grim echo
Oh, that's understandable
Would be pretty great to see that being done
Some maps just feel way too claustrophobic to me
green gorge
I just play stason's CoC instead, which has that as well as other level design improvements, is 64-bit, and has much of the same features as Amomawy but more dynamic quests and no crappy Misery
can see a bit of the map there
green gorge
Not exactly
Garbage is like a mix of the old build one and current one
you can see it in this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkZNpNtUpPA
Cordon is a mix of the build one and release one + a shrunken Darkscape as a single map
green gorge
there's a 64-bit update for it too
neon socket
warped cliff
Hmm
I'd like to see old Yantar
Wait
Ok, I'm gonna ask again
Do I have the x64 version from the links you've sent me?
green gorge
I just discovered the 64-bit update today so probably not
Here it is:
https://yadi.sk/d/QCmc1CPWHL10sw
it is save game INcompatible though
warped cliff
Ok, I was going to make a new save anyways
Since on the last one relations broke
And I was suddenly an enemy to everyone
green gorge
probably just the result of dynamic faction relations + things not going your way
clear pelican
Quick question before bedtime:
Would You recomend me playing "Priboi Story" for SoC?
green gorge
No, I think it's a very bad mod and it's also unstable
I had to quit pretty early due to crashes
storm kraken
Isn't that the only english-native mod
storm kraken
So like not even a story reason
storm kraken
That's just a weird choice whew
tribal yacht
daizen never actually played it so i wouldn't trust his opinion
Priboi story is just another russian fever dream of a mod with poor optimization
storm kraken
Which I presume is a good half of all stalker mods
storm kraken
TBH goldsphere was fun until you reached the garbage too
tribal yacht
It is indeed one of the first and only mods to be localized entirely in english
storm kraken
"hey what would be a good gimmick oh I know LETS FILL THE WHOLE MAP WITH INSTAKILLS WITH A LARGE RADIUS"
I mean I LIKE it but with the crashing that area was a PAIN
tribal yacht
yeah the garbage is really weird, but you can / do get past it
itll be easier to understand anything goldsphere throws at you once the translation gets around
imagine that crashing and suffering just without the fun
thats priboi story
storm kraken
Ah, good
storm kraken
It's deep social commentary bro
tribal yacht
;^)
storm kraken
Like monolith is trash bro it's deep bro
tribal yacht
2smart4me
storm kraken
Hey question, I mostly play COC with a load of item clutter mods (AO3, ITEMSOUP, Artifacts Expansion) and I think ITEMSOUP is doing something funky with the added artifacts from AE
I did the compatibility patch perfectly well and for all intents and purposes it doesn't mess with the game except the icons for the artifacts are invisible and their sell prices are SEVERELY nerfed
Like a pretty strong artifact from that mod may sell for 2000 rubles but a Stone Blood sold to Barkeep sells for 2500
green gorge
don't see a question lol
neon socket
why would you play with item clutter
storm kraken
Oh yeah forgot to get to that point sorry my dad's knee is doing WACKY stuff after surgery
Question is any way to at least restore the icons or if there's any conflicts anyone knows about that would cause them?
And I play with clutter because I have innate hoarding tendencies and it feels nice
neon socket
autism
but unless someone made a proper fix for it or you fix it yourself by moving shit around in the item dds, no
storm kraken
Time to break my game via inexperienced meddling! That's the best way to learn
storm kraken
Man everyone really wants me to play anomaly
neon socket
I mean I think it's a garbage mod
but for someone with hoarding tendencies you'll love it
storm kraken
If I can ever get my computer to a WiFi source I'll download it and give it a shot either way
neon socket
there's so much uneeded item bloat
storm kraken
I like playing as a trapper and making little meals for myself in the field
Although I don't think Hash Cakes, a Coke and three bags of beef jerky is a balanced breakfast
tribal yacht
thats the only breakfast worth having
green gorge
Hamburgers are the cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast
pine kettle
neon socket
i know about the cooking in them
but i mean real autism cooking
like getting all the ingredients for something and then actually setting up the cooker or fire and sitting and watching it cook
setting up packs of meat from animals you butcher
cooking like how alchemy was done in kingdom come
similar to that
i really like stuff like that in games, gets me immersed and feeling real comfy
detail in to skinning and butchering, setting up a camp, maybe even for like an mre just opening up and eating the individual things in it
green gorge
Gordon Ramsay simulator
storm kraken
Gordon Zonesay
"THIS MEAT IS SO RAW I CAN HEAR BLOODSUCKERS CLOAKING TO GET CLOSE TO IT"
green gorge
brave hollow
green gorge
callate la boca
deep holly
Good moding* boku no piko *
upbeat vapor
Wonder how far Goldsphere English translation is....
I'm still tempted to download and see what's so special about it - never ever tried Goldsphere
I can't speak... ruskiy....
neon socket
wait till translation
green gorge
translation is coming either next year or the year after
warped cliff
Talking about translations...
How's warfare translation for stason going @green gorge
green gorge
it's not a primary focus, I have more important modding things on my plate
so I won't be touching that for a while
upbeat vapor
@green gorge Duh. That means after and if even S2 comes out
Damn where are those english folks knowing russian to speed up the thing now
I guess they're making memes on reddit
green gorge
No it doesn't
warped cliff
Ah, OGSE?
green gorge
and like you said Stalker 2 might not even come out, and if it does it's not before 2021 and Goldsphere translation might be done before 2021
Also Goldsphere is so different that Stalker 2 doesn't even matter
upbeat vapor
But how bad is the machine translation? Is it that bad?
green gorge
It won't make it obsolete or anything
yes it's that bad
Goldsphere is 100% story driven, definitely not worth it to play it machine translated
especially since the creator himself is helping with the translation somewhat
green gorge
As for what I'm working on, OGSR Weapon Expansion Project is top priority and also seeing if I can port NLC 7.5.3 guns to Oblivion Lost Remake
upbeat vapor
Do those peeps have Discord server to discuss ...stuff?
green gorge
yes, I can DM you an invite link if you want
upbeat vapor
Dump it right there
green gorge
I've decided to focus on the OGSR version instead which sets it out a few more weeks
because of instabilities in the latest version of OGSE
OGSR fixes those instabilities and has more content
and a newer, much better engine
I just need to finish translating that and redo a few things
real translation, not just machine
green gorge
OGSR is basically an unofficial expansion of OGSE 0693, using a very recent version of OGSR engine as well
new quests, new fully customizable guns
lots of bugfixes
neon socket
isnt it continued by some of the original devs
green gorge
I believe Jekan is the only one who worked on both OGSE and OGSR
he has made some new quests
everyone else is new
neon socket
based jekan
warm ruin
The original development team disbanded a while ago. Not sure who's exactly working on the OGSR mod.
green gorge
KRodin is the main guy
KRodin , dsh, lordmuzer - engine, scripts.
k01jan - new weapons, equipment.
WASP - textures, testing and more.
Alan Waters - testing.
Also in fashion were used the works of the following authors:
Haarhus - mutant models transferred from the RFP.
ed_rez - fixed textures of the earth.
DoberBull - textures of inventory highlights.
green gorge
no you have the one with mutants that cause crashes in Radar and Pripyat
warped cliff
umm
green gorge
I just found out about that a few days ago
warped cliff
so which OGSR is the one that will have the expansion?
warped cliff
oh god
green gorge
one download nice and easy
warped cliff
Hmm
Maybe
I mean
I need my stalker mod folder to be even bigger
238GB is not enough
green gorge
Regarding OGSR, so k01jan, Alan Waters, and Jekan are the ones who worked on both OGSE and OGSR
tired phoenix
its own developed Directx 11 (not taken from the Call Of Pripyat) in fashion Prosectors Project 1.5!
Read more here: https://ap-pro.ru/forum/35-91677-15#1263789
Prosectors Project сравнение 1.4 и 1.5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqKCBdBYqIk
opal perch
Does someone have a link to Open scopes for vanilla cop with AO3.1? I'm searching for it but i can't find anything.
green gorge
If you're playing CoP just use STCoP 3.2 instead
nimble thunder
OpenXRay just got an update, check it out guys!
A brief list of the most noticeable changes since latest pre-release and download links are available on our GitHub: https://github.com/OpenXRay/xray-16/releases/tag/510
neon socket
be me
try misery with TAZ
start as assaulter
get out of Ranger station
walk on the road towards Skadovsk
bloodsucker appears behind me
im_in_deep_crap.jpg
put an entire mag into it
it dies
phew.mp4
another one appers
out of ammo
no meds
ded
Misery is fun 👌
neon socket
thats what you get for playing poop mod
orchid berry
That basically sums up Misery, yeah
mint lake
Anyone know a good tutorial for how to mod stalker?
i am interested in making mods/addons for Anomaly.
idle maple
Hi, can someone who has experience messing with animations @ me please?
neon socket
Anomaly in Some Bullet Points:
me
names self 'Unknown Stalker.JPEG'
joins some weird deleted faction called UNISG
spawns directly in conflict with random mutants
walk on the road towards Kindergarten
gets shot at by monoliths
throws grenade but uses wrong mouse button (right)
drops next to me
runs just a few meters
pretty much the definition of ded
tries to flee from monolith but runs into group of dogs
tries to knife them
like
a
dumb butt
dies
game shows dogs eating me
end game
anomaly in generalismo
green gorge
any CoC mod in a nutshell, the only difference being the name of the faction (no UNISG anywhere else)
latent wraith
hello guys, looking for needful addons for s.t.a.l.k.e.r. anomaly 😄
already got vivid_colors_and_icons, enemy_gun_jam, first_person_dead, realistic_loot_drop, trader_badammo, and trader buys damaged weapons and sell old ammo
grim echo
Death Animations are an absolute must-have for me
solar holly
im blind dont worry sorry lmao
hollow saddle
You can find them pretty easy by going to traders! hope this helps :).
neon socket
find binoculars by playing a better mod
stiff seal
neon socket
some file unopenable errors
as in can't open this wave file or something like that
sometimes it just ctds
with the error sound but no error message
green gorge
play better mod
green gorge
Prepare your anuses for the imminent OGSR English Edition beta release
vast ruin
Anyone here played Radiophobia 2?
Who thought it was a good idea to make it so that the Psudodogs deal psi-damage?
That shit is fucking ridiculous, as if entering Bar wasn't already annoying enough lol.
grim echo
I haven't seen yet a Stalker mod that would make fighting mutants fun
green gorge
Maybe you're just a NOOB and can't handle getting blood sucked
grim echo
It's not really about the difficulty
It's just that everything about the mutants from the animations, models and AI is abysmal
Not to mention that killing them is usually just a tedious task you have to go through every time you travel
And it's also not very rewarding conisdering the risk that you take and how petty is their loot compared to what you can get from killing other stalkers
Aaaand on top of that we could really use some more variation
So for the best experience I just reduce mutants' spawn rates and increase those of Stalker's
green gorge
I mean, it has better mutant AI than most other games lol, and the animations and models are just the product of their time
It's not going to have 2019 AAA animations and models
The real problem with mutants is that they're not unique or creative enough
Bloodsuckers just run towards you and turn visible and try to slap you or drink your blood
Others just run circles around you and occasionally leap in which is ok
grim echo
Yet, while you have mods that can help with Stalker models, weapon textures and so on you dont really have anything good for mutants IMO
green gorge
There are a lot of mutant reskins and I don't think there is an issue with their textures, or even the models for the most part
neon socket
I mean the mutant models and animations are fine, unless you're some autist who closely inspects them
green gorge
The models are actually pretty detailed
grim echo
Most of the time it's just importing mutants from alpha which doesn't look good
green gorge
But a lot more can be done with the mutants when it comes to AI and abilities
neon socket
RIGHT HERE, a missing vert.
green gorge
Pack hunter AI (dogs/pseudodogs, snorks) to be more realistic which would make them harder to fight off
They shouldn't just attack you outright, makes them too easy to shoot
Bloodsuckers need to use stealth and ambush predator tactics way better, but if they did this then people would complain and call them unfair
Gamers always ruin things
Controllers are nicely improved in OGSE, that's going in the right direction
neon socket
dog packs can mess you up anyway, at least if they all pounce at you at the same time (which rarely happens, OGSE's solution for this is just to go the OLR route and just spawn 10000000 of them)
lol my phone registers that as a phone number
grim echo
Since I can't post images here I posted some on #📸┃screens_and_videos
I guess that represents the gap in quality well enough
But I agree, textures are a minor issue
neon socket
lmao
grim echo
The real problem is how predictable and dumb the AI is
neon socket
the civilian zombie isn't even used in any of the games unless modded back in
I don't think they've been in use since the Oblivion Lost days
grim echo
I am not talking about original stalker but stalker modding scene in general
neon socket
I mean civilian zombies are fine really, they're just filler enemies for the most part, even if their model is poopoo
grim echo
And this zombie happened to be the first image that popped up in google images, I could have used anything else really
green gorge
The modding scene doesn't focus as much on retexturing the mutants since it's less significant
neon socket
but like every other mutant model is fine
grim echo
Well as I said that's still a minor issue
The thing that bothers me the most is, again, how tedious these fights are
Whenever I see a group of mutans the only thing I do is gasp thinking about all the ammunitoon I will have to squander
neon socket
just go around them then?
and I can never think of a time where ammunition is really an issue
green gorge
Would you prefer mutants were just no threat at all? I'm curious
I see a lot of stalker players complain about any resistance they encounter, whether it's mutants or anomalies or human AI that can actually shoot you to death
grim echo
I'd prefer them to be more of a threat, but also more rare and rewarding
I actually love the advanced human AI
Even if it makes me ragequit sometimes
neon socket
I do enjoy coc's way of doing mutants parts and having them be worth more, especially with rare mutants
grim echo
But at least I get my satisfaction when I can get to looting them
neon socket
that being said by late game psuedogiants spawn every 2 seconds and give 5000 value hands
green gorge
If I could have my way with mutants (requires an engine that isn't poo), they would be a lot smarter and a lot more dangerous, but yeah I wouldn't have roaming packs of 100 dogs
grim echo
Where as when I deal with a pack of boars I just move on
green gorge
But when you do fight the deadlier mutants, you'd be way more likely to die
e.g. Bloodsuckers using stealth and ambush predator tactics ruthlessly and intelligently
like an actual creature
snorks ambushing you and working as a pack ruthlessly
neon socket
gamers wouldn't like that though
neon socket
it's too hard!!!! I don't get a chance to react!!!
grim echo
They wouldn't if it where rare enough
neon socket
be attentive then dummy
grim echo
Plus they could spawn only in specific areas
green gorge
I'd certainly make some of them more rare than some mods
neon socket
jester's version of stalker would require full attentiveness
green gorge
Yes, it'd be more Roadside Picnic inspired and even Pathologic 2 inspired, and live up to the actual lore better
grim echo
What I mean is you could travel "the safe way" through areas and not encounter, say, a pack of 10 bloodsuckers
But if you want to get to some more rewarding areas, like say some anomaly field deep in the woods, boy, you better be prepared
neon socket
I mean you can already avoid most mutant encounters by just giving them a wide berth
green gorge
Have you played NLC 7?
grim echo
No
green gorge
Sounds like it is the closest thing to what you'd want
Really the best designed stalker experience there is
It never feels like it was put together by kids just trying out new things without much coherence
Which sets it apart from like every other mod
grim echo
Ight, may try it out
green gorge
And it provides the greatest feeling of rewarding content
grim echo
What about that one mod that hasnt been released yet you keep on talking about
Is that the one?
grim echo
Yeah
green gorge
OGSR is less unique in that regard, it just feels like a much better version of SoC rather than something totally reworked from the ground up to be both different and better
vast ruin
The psudodogs in Radiophobia 2 kill you by just standing near you for a few seconds.
green gorge
Yeah because it's Misery inspired and does some things even more ridiculously than Misery
vast ruin
I haven't seen anything that gets close to this bad in another stalker mods tbh
green gorge
standing next to controllers in Misery is similar, but at least it's a controller not a damn psy-dog
but yeah Radiophobia 2 is inspired by Misery and Autumn Aurora (which is inspired by Misery) so the end result was destined to be bad
taking inspiration from bad mods
vast ruin
These aren't even psy-dogs, they are just regular psudodogs lol, that's what makes it so bad, and they are absolutely everywhere.
green gorge
vast ruin
They make your screen go black and white, and give you horrible psi effect double vision, and then you turn around and just die lol
green gorge
the only good "hardcore survival" stalker mod is NLC 7
it's actually intelligently designed and not just... stupid like the rest
vast ruin
I haven't even heard of that one, sounds interesting though, got a link?
I know Misery is supposed to be, you know, for a lack of a better word, miserable.
But I kinda liked AA2 though, nothing in it ever got this ridiculous.
green gorge
Yes AA2 never goes full retard
The only downside with NLC 7 is that it's machine translated to English, although the vast majority of it is comprehensible
it's also totally standalone
Overall it's mechanically so far ahead of most mods, e.g.:
https://streamable.com/0ydhk
And the writing is far ahead of just about all of them too
and quest design
grim echo
Actually, who needs english
I've been studying russian for 1,5 year, time to go sicko mode and learn some vocabulary the hard way
green gorge
oh hell yes
If I were studying it for 1.5 years CONSISTENTLY then I'd definitely do that
But if it was just on/off casual study then good luck
However you can't use the moddb version
actually you can
you just have to edit one thing
to bring back the russian localization
vast ruin
interesting, I'll check it out
tribal yacht
you dont have to edit anything
the translation is a separate download
since the machine translation is really questionable I just left it as an optional / separate download in the description
be attentive jester
green gorge
Screw you
green gorge
NLC 7 has increased my desire to learn Russian
tribal yacht
me too but im lazy
i know my cyrillic at least
shill my epik inventory guide next time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP7LdwPuRuQ
green gorge
that's more for when you start the mod if you don't quite understand the inventory
showing some of the unique shooting mechanics (along with a brief look at the inventory) stands out to people a bit more when showing them the mod
people jizz to that sort of thing
tribal yacht
NLC isnt for those with short attention spans
green gorge
don't scare people away
green gorge
I know an ADHD person who is playing it
green gorge
you never beat NLC
tribal yacht
I decided to restart my progress because I don't feel I was attentive enough
So after I finish Last Stalker I'm continuing NLC
neon socket
my dude I cant even play NLC because it requires SoC
green gorge
it doesn't, it's totally standalone
neon socket
whut
green gorge
Every stalker mod in the last 3 years is standalone pretty much
green gorge
any time
tribal yacht
do you not own SoC?
mint lake
Is there any website or guides for modding that would help me learn how to mod Anomaly?
neon socket
amomawy
warm ruin
The official Anomaly Discord might be able to help you with that. @mint lake
mint lake
Alright, I'll check over there thanks @warm ruin
mint lake
@warm ruin They helped me out and i got the mod i was trying to get working to work.
tribal yacht
he'll accept $20 as payment
limpid isle
somebody should make a model for google translate, so we can translate stalker mods more accurate automatically.
https://cloud.google.com/translate/docs/translating-text-v3#automl-model
hallow cedar
do i need cop to run dead air cause i dont have a disk drive so i can't install it lmao
warped cliff
I think that it's standalone
neon socket
doesn't CoC need CoP for like authorization
idk but when I ran CoC without installing CoP it just gave me an error message requiring it
maybe or maybe not
high mountain
when i played stalker complete i collected many gas canisters
i tried to drop them into 100 rads and make a chain explosion that would kill everyone inside but 2 things stopped me:
- its a pain to accurately drop them
- i didnt have enough
is it possible to kill the barkeep with a massive chain of explosions?
devout briar
Game will crash as soon as Barkeep dies
neon socket
badumtss
drowsy wyvern
Chernobyl reactor explosion 2 radioactive boogaloo
neon socket
Bro does anyone know what happened to the rpgs in anomaly debug spawner
in weapons (explosives) there used to be like an rpg7 or rg something
Now I only got grenades and the OG and VOG ammos are useless now
1.5.0 beta 3 update messed up everything i guess :/
Anyone in anomaly pls help
green gorge
lol join their discord
green gorge
yes
This is a better version of the mod even with much more guns and better balance
Note it's a two part download
the other is linked in the description
download it all from moddb
the English one is basically its own for know
fork now*
high mountain
isnt ogsr just outdated openxray
green gorge
no
OGSR is based on SoC's engine but is 64-bit and has DX11/DX10 and all that, Open X-Ray is based on CoP's engine
That's OGSR engine
there's also OGSR mod
which is an unofficial expansion of OGSE 0693, made on OGSR engine
and it's one of the best mods around
high mountain
oooo
neon socket
Anomaly sucks dingdongs, it worked like heaven before now it runs like poop
This stupid update ruined everything
Now it became the suckiest mod in my book, highly unstable
Whats the best mod that is Anomaly but stable enough to not go 50+ fps one time and 6fps the other
green gorge
the most stable warfare-like experience you can get is just CoC 1.4.22 + Warfare
assuming you're playing warfare
if not then you can just try Road to the North or Dead Air but I don't really recommend either right now
I'd suggest just playing a good mod instead 
green gorge
General Voronin commands all to play the best mods
https://i.imgur.com/kJj2cxd.jpg
rotund swift
1.4.22 CoC warfare is the most stable mod I've ever seen in my entire STALKER modding experience
Through the 3 years I've played CoC I've only had 14 crashes directly related to it
green gorge
your modding experience must be extremely limited
mostly limited to CoC mods I'm guessing?
there are a ton of mods that don't just randomly crash
warped cliff
@green gorge Small question, maybe you'll know. Is one of OGSR menu themes ripped from Halo?
green gorge
don't think so
warped cliff
The cello one sounds like it
warped cliff
Same
green gorge
wait I lied, I don't really recognize one of them, I just no it comes from NA6
it's the super epic war game sounding one
by default OGSR only has Moonlight Sonata and that Cello one
I added the rest
warped cliff
Did the SKS in my hands just blow apart?
green gorge
if it was super broken, it can happen
warped cliff
damn man
nice
although I'd like to see some animations for that
But good god
OGSR is so good
Not only does it look good but the gameplay is great
warped cliff
yeah
and as I can see the quests aren't just normal "Fetch me the Meat Chunk"
I was expecting the guy to either be alive and thank me or just die
but no
there are some additional informations
Man, that's some next level side quests
And I just love the jokes
the one about ecologist experimental drugs is the best one so far
ok, now I'm kinda sad
green gorge
why
grim echo
Anyone else struggling with STCOP 3.3?
Seems to crash at various points
Sometimes when loading, sometimes after couple seconds in- game
I'm gonna attempt a complete reinstall and see if this helps
But that's for tommorow
green gorge
yeah 3.3 is really trashed
it's also dumb, it removes perfectly good stuff, even other people who have worked on STCoP say the guy removing stuff has lost his marbles
once it gets patched, the English translated moddb STCoP 3.2 will be updated and become a 3.2-3.3 hybrid
the removed stuff will no longer be removed
I'll do this once 3.3 is stable
rotund swift
@green gorge I've used many mods on CoC
But yeah I've only done mods for CoC and a few for the vanilla games
hollow lava
Been playing Dead Air recently, still cant find the bar that everyone is saying I should go to.
Anyone able to tell me where to look?
quaint elbow
stcop keeps crahsing at truck cemetery. any way to fix that?
green gorge
Truck cemetery crashing is just CoC running out of memory
quaint elbow
Wow so 16 gigs would fix the problem then?
hollow saddle
you could try using anomaly's 64x bit engine with CoC
I did that with CoM, until I realized that Anomaly was just way better
green gorge
16GB won't fix the issue, its engine being 32-bit is the issue
CoC 64-bit is notoriously unstable, so is stason's CoC 64-bit unfortunately
the best choice is CoC Back to the Roots I think, and maybe install some of Amomawy's textures over it
neon socket
any good modpack stuff like coc and anomaly
green gorge
I think the best CoC based mod pack right now is CoC by stason174 but they're all flawed and ultimately aimless
If you want to try something really impressive, try OGSR
or if you want to challenge yourself, deep dive into NLC 7 Build 3.0
neon socket
oki
tardy moat
on the topic of OGSR, if you haven’t played OGSE 0.6.9.3, it is very well done experience!
green gorge
Yeah but OGSR is a newer better version of it, so OGSR is the one to play
it is OGSE 0693 on a newer, better engine with much better optimization, all the greatness from OGSE 0693 + some additional quests, and new weapons/items
warped cliff
And 3D scopes ^^
God, they're so good
Although
@green gorge is there a way to recolor the acid anomalies back to green?
Agroprom just isn't the same
green gorge
I think it'd be a particle edit
warped cliff
Yeah, it's the only bad thing in OGSR I've seen as of yet
Also
Are there really two controllers in Agro?
green gorge
It's not a bad thing
just a subjective change
I think it's Agroprom Underground looks cooler
and yeah there are two Cuntrollers there when you first visit
warped cliff
Yeah, I was so surprised
Like
It's easily seen that OGSR is made for some veterans but also newcomers
green gorge
it's good for everyone
warped cliff
It is
It plays like vanilla ShoC so it's perfect for people new to the series
But it also has those little twists
green gorge
Wait till you see all the side quests and also Dead City
it is of course strongly recommended to explore all of the side quests
neon socket
stalkers,help a fellow stalker out,im playing Anomaly and i did the quest about finding Strelok's hideout,i found it,looted it,then i went to leave the Underground where you have to kill the controller to leave,so i blasted it and when i try to leave the Underground at any exit my game crashes,i thought about quicktravelling to somewhere but it still crashes,seems like the Zone doesnt want me to leave
i tried all the exits,still crashes
high mountain
install debian stable
green gorge
switch to NLC 7
neon socket
whats that?
high mountain
mod
green gorge
mod + the best thing in the series
neon socket
@green gorge What is your own, personal opinion, on these two mods:
Dead Air
Road to the North
Sorry for ping.
green gorge
Dead Air - haven't played it yet since I know it's the evolution of CoM and has very little content, but I will play the upcoming version
RttN - Never played
neon socket
o 0 f
green gorge
I tend to not play many CoC based mods especially CoM/Last Day based since almost all just take the wrong direction and end up fundamentally severely flawed and lacking
I only played the ones I did play out of curiosity and I will do the same for the new Dead Air, I expect very little
Others like stason's CoC and Back to the Roots I like to improve and apply English translations to and give them to the western community just so the gweilos can at least play the better CoC based mods
neon socket
So what do you think of Dead Air, sorry for skipping over your explanation
snow umbra
“Dead Air - haven't played it yet since I know it's the evolution of CoM and has very little content, but I will play the upcoming version”
dont think he has a solid opinion yet
neon socket
Oof
warped cliff
I do have
As it comes to freeplays I've spent a lot of time playing them
So what did you want to know?
neon socket
Mostly the opinions in these particular mods
It's becoming tedious to find some good mods ever since Anomaly started to act like if I were running this on a 300 dollar computer
Dead Air actually seems to be extremely promising for potato comps
warped cliff
Dead Air well... The only thing I can say about it that it looks cool
It tried to have a new weapon repair system which didn't really work out as planned
neon socket
yeah
warped cliff
But visually it's stunning
neon socket
Very stunning
warped cliff
Also it appears more gritty than other freeplays
Like
It's not muddy
But gritty
neon socket
Yeah I can see that especially at night
I'm currently playing Dead Air as we speak
I do light how they implented other light sources
Like a lighter and the memey glowstick
Like*
And it is suprisingly very runnable
And apparently saving fixes my fps drops
Also apparently Wild Territory is a radioactive biohazard..
neon socket
Ikr
Dead Air is the best mod after Anomaly started to not work on my decent laptop imo
I know it changes a lot but it's based on its recent updates and how it runs even at medium graphic settings
Anomaly is painfully unplayable now suddenly
warped cliff
You know, RttN is surprisingly good
neon socket
Pretty good imo
warped cliff
It plays like older anomaly, but something is different
And it makes the mod better
neon socket
What is it, may I ask
neon socket
RttN felt slightly boring at some times
Dead Air is okay but I like it because it's stable as Anomaly before the recent updates
Anomaly was the greatest but then Windows 10 trashed its performance with its spam of updates
Misery was of course filled with Misery
neon socket
Call of Chernobyl is sandbox heaven but not the way to start stalker
warped cliff
After playing stuff like OP 2.1, OLR and OGSE
warped cliff
Mods for ShoC with a story which is more or less based on the vanilla one
Well, in the case of OLR the story of vanilla ShoC bases on it
OP 2.1 is a soup mod
neon socket
Does it add new items? Locations or is just plainly story-based with some hud tweaks
warped cliff
And OGSE is like an expansion pack for ShoC
neon socket
Does it add new items? Locations or is just plainly story-based with some hud tweaks
warped cliff
And OGSE is like an expansion pack for ShoC
neon socket
Sorry for typing it twice, lagged hard
warped cliff
OP 2.1 has around 90 maps
neon socket
Sorry for typing it twice, lagged hard
warped cliff
OP 2.1 has around 90 maps
neon socket
Discord and verizon fios is lagging like hell
neon socket
what the hell
warped cliff
It was a giant lag
neon socket
I had to get out of Dead Air
Discord is having a massive bellyache
or in this case, a half-heart attack
neon socket
👀
warped cliff
And enemies
neon socket
wait what
warped cliff
It's a soup mod
neon socket
Where do you find it
warped cliff
Although I wouldn't recommend OP 2.1 as the first ShoC mod
Well, do you speak Russian?
neon socket
Nope
dang
No english translation?
Well, I've seen a youtube video showing how to install it
Is this the mod you are talking about?
The author of the video said he updated it
with english localization
warped cliff
Yes, it is
neon socket
U R R A H
Coming from the size of the bins and stuff like that
It's around the amount of RttN
With all patches
13.6GB vs 11.6GB
RttN vs CP/OP 2.1
So maybe I will give it a try.
green gorge
OP2.1 is like a joke mod full of artificial difficulty, insane fetch quests, and content from other games like deathclaws, talking Metro librarians, giant spiders, Doom 3 hell knights, stealth nanosuit exoskeletons, you name it
It's not hard to find good mods, it's just that you won't if you limit yourself to CoC based freeplay mods
neon socket
ooooooh.
Then, what do you think is the best CoC-based freeplay mod?
OOH! What about Call of Misery?
Literally Call of Chernobyl mixed with Misery with a clever name
neon socket
Apparently coc is loading very slowly
Why the heck is it doing it now
I am so confused
@green gorge coc sucks now
green gorge
Play OGSR
warped cliff
@green gorge talking about OGSR. It turned out that not only I have a problem with configurator and xray deleting themselves.
neon socket
neon socket
sup guys
i need help downloading anomaly
is there a torrent which i can use to download it?
because the repack is absolute bs
4 out of the 6 files i downloaded are archived and i can't open them
high mountain
pay
neon socket
Oof they might be bad downloads
I downloaded the files in the 3 part downloads
Worked and extracted like a charm...
Until windows 10 flipped me over!!
high mountain
i see windows 10 doing so much evil
try out GNU 𝓅𝓁𝓊𝓈 Linux or install 7, the better version
neon socket
Bruh I have a pre-installed Windows 10 laptop
I do not think it is possible to uninstall Windows 10 or to clear my entire hard-drive with the OS too
And besides if I do that my warranty contract is broken
high mountain
@neon socket 1. yes you can
2. warranty can be broken much more easily, and even then its illegal to do that iirc
@green gorge its not a botnet and does not break everything when big brother bill wants to
neon socket
Eh, I might break my laptop in the process so oh well