#🔩┃trilogy_modifications

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fierce matrix
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One that stays true to the original game

earnest granite
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Surely not Narodnaya Solyanka DMX

fierce matrix
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i see "Narodnaya Solyanka in a nutshell" backs up your statement,

subtle beacon
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AMK 1.4.1

earnest granite
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If you're playing for a second or certainly not for the first time try Lost Alpha but if it is indeed the first time i surely recommend Radiophobia 2 it's just an addon pack

subtle beacon
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Original with more bugfixes

earnest granite
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Oh wait no, you're PC isn't that good for it

fierce matrix
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Exactly.

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Sweet, bugfixes that's good.

subtle beacon
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One of first mods on stalker

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Global modes

fierce matrix
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i've played Oblivion Lost.

earnest granite
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I guess AMK is a good idea

subtle beacon
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Oblivion Lost is return in build version

fierce matrix
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Right, like the "dreamed" beta.

subtle beacon
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AMK has a minor bugfixes original, not graphics, weapon, etc, Just bugfixes.

fierce matrix
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Okay, thanks. I'll check that one out.

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That would be "AMK-Complete" in moddb, right?

subtle beacon
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If you sen link in pm, i can say

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Send

ripe pond
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Finally download and install Anomaly, set it up, fire up a character, food delivery guy showed up, go and pick up my food, come back, game crashed while i was away. Great mod vodka

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i heard of meme mods but come on.....

versed minnow
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Anyone know what happend with mod called Noises of the zone or something like that

thin inlet
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It's a game

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Not mod

versed minnow
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Was is canceled?

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Cuz there was any news from them or videos for a long time

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(sry for my eng)

runic wren
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many persons say what Noises of the zone is a "fake game"

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but

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idk

sage urchin
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they have no rights to the trademark so likely

past briar
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How do other developers add real weapons to their games? 🤔

sage urchin
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they flip where the ejection port is or something

silent stratus
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im playing lost alpha and 1 thing got to my mind

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i should make a mod that makes it possible to make campfires

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anyone have an idea if this is possible?

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and if so pliss send me sum kinda website or whatever so i can learn how

warped cliff
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I think that the mod is already made

silent stratus
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ye but is it in lost alpha aswell? was searching couldnt find it

warped cliff
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I don't think it is

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Ping the devs

worthy frigate
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Dunno

silent stratus
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can someone lead me in a nice tutorial direction for this?

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dont have to be beginner nooby

silent stratus
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anyone got a working OGF viewer?

blazing garden
lost fox
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Anyone know which branch of Open X-Ray the engine used in Anomaly is?

grand nebula
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@rapid pebble

gilded dust
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It's based on CoC 1.4.22, so pretty much anything before CoC 1.5

rapid pebble
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Based on our own branch of OXR. For more details, please ask Searge on our server

neon socket
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every mod I download for shadow of chernobyl doesn't work.

subtle beacon
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@neon socket maybe u install mod on wrong version

neon socket
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no, it's 1.006

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I would post the error message but....I can't.

subtle beacon
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Send me error message, i will try help you

warm ruin
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@neon socket Did you edit fsgame.ltx and set gamedata to true | true?

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It should be set to false | true if you haven't edited it.

neon socket
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Yes I did.

warm ruin
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K

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What mods are you trying to install?

neon socket
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Alright Rivetslip helped me out

cobalt grove
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🔥 :flamer:

neon socket
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what is the best overhaul for Stalker clear sky? (preferably with a spawn menu cuz I like to do random stuff when i complete the game)

earnest granite
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Complete Mod

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I don't think it's an overhaul mod

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But it adds the debug menu

north plover
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Im trying to get back into playing stalker mods. Im looking for some mods that add a new storyline into the game, mods like sgm 2.2 and stalker anomaly.

runic wren
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The last stalker

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Narodnaya Solyanka 2016

north plover
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those are both for SoC right?

earnest granite
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I think so, yes

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I played Narodnaya Solyanka DMX it's great

neon socket
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lol what

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terrible the mod

earnest granite
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I liked it but it's more of a meme mod than an original and Normal

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It's just a soup mod

north plover
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bruh

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well any mods like that but for CoP?

earnest granite
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Call of Pripyat has some damn great mods

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Lemme find my fav

warped cliff
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Ugh

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Gunslinger

earnest granite
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Gunslinger is one that i haven't used but it's greatly developed

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Biggest gun mod pack i think

warped cliff
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Yeah

earnest granite
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This is a nice mod if you want to go with vanilla playthrough with minor changes https://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-pripyat-complete

Mod DB

Call of Pripyat Complete is the third entry in the Complete mod series, which is a set of modifications created by professional artists dedicated to enhancing the production quality of the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. game series. The Complete mod series emphasize...

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Propably what you're looking for

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Misery 2.1.1 is a very nice mod

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2.2 made the game feel like Clear Sky shooting AI and autoscope

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I prefer 2.1.1 tbh

warped cliff
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2.2 also introduces grenade spam

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2.1.1 was pretty moderate at that

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But 2.2?

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It just bombards you with nades as much as possible

earnest granite
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It's more of a Addon pack

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@north plover You can also try SGM 2.2 again but with STCoP as they made a patch for compatibility

north plover
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damn that sounds pretty fucking dope

earnest granite
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@north plover No swearing!

north plover
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biggest complaint with sgm 2.2 is just how the story is directed

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my bad feller

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but yeah that sounds pretty nice

earnest granite
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Wind of Time is the best mod i've played with a total overhaul

north plover
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yeah i heard about wind of time

earnest granite
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It is like a standalone mini-game or soemthing

north plover
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but i heard its a bit buggy but it looks good

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have you played dead air yet?

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always wanted to try that

earnest granite
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My friend played it when it was in Russian beta and he got around some bugs but i guess they fixed them now

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Yes indeed i played Dead Air but i prefer Misery or Anomaly

north plover
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i see

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i also played anomaly and that was one of my favs

warped cliff
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Dead Air is good

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If you like exploration

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I mean

north plover
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Two mods which i always wanted to try are either dead air or misery/last day

warped cliff
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Exploration aspect in DA is the best from all freeplays

north plover
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i see

warped cliff
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Slower walking speed help with that

north plover
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alright

earnest granite
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Misery is my favorite mod for CoP

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But you decide what you want to play

north plover
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So what type of mod is misery

warped cliff
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Umm

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How to say it

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"immersive"

north plover
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alright, well is it freeplay or total overhaul or?

earnest granite
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'survival' 'dark' 'new mechanics'

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Minor overhaul with the original CoP story mode

warped cliff
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Minor?

earnest granite
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Well, compared to what the other mods do i must say that it is somewhat a minor overhaul or a standalone mod on it's own rights

north plover
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i see

warped cliff
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Well yeah

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Because it doesn't touch the story

north plover
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alright

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what about dead air? That sounds like a free play CoC type of mod

earnest granite
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It is a freeplay CoC type mod

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It's like Misery but harder

warped cliff
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Harder?

earnest granite
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I don't know if they made a version of it like Misery for CoP i guess there's only the OpenXRay version of it

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@warped cliff You describe it then

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It adds new start mechanics and glowsticks

warped cliff
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Also weapon repairs

earnest granite
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Yes

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And some other like inventory changes

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Items

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Item mechanics

warped cliff
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Yeah

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Slower walking speed aswell

earnest granite
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You can fight with an axe or a shovel

warped cliff
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Also hammer and crowbar

warped cliff
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So

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I installed anomaly 1.5

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I spawned at yantar because eco

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so

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Storm was just going AWOL

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in 2 minutes I got 5 orbituaries about death in Yantar because of mutants

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there was no second without a shot fired

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after getting killed by pack of snorks the game crashed

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ah yes, Yantar

north plover
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well i got dead air and it seems really fucking good

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gonna install wind of time now

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see how that goes

warped cliff
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I like how Cordon in OLR is just dead

fierce matrix
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What does Freeplay means in Stalker?

snow umbra
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it means you walk around anywhere you want without having to do any tasks

fierce matrix
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Do they have quest?

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said mods.

warped cliff
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stuff like fetch quests

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you know

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things you get from non-special NPCs

fierce matrix
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Sounds interesting.

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Call of Chernobyl and Misery, right?

worthy frigate
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Misery not

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It has vanilla CoP story

fierce matrix
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Oh, got it.

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Call of Misery is a Standalone like Lost Alpha, right?

worthy frigate
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Call of Misery is Call of Chernobyl + Misery, good mod.
I guess it's standalone

fierce matrix
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I'm making so many questions lately, sorry for that.

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It's there a way to hook up a gamepad to SoC?

worthy frigate
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No

fierce matrix
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I have just tried, Dead Air. and it's looking good so far.
I wake up, prepare myself to go out, change a few words with fellow stalkers and then i heard some gunshots, everyone gets nervous and start to look out for the source of the sound, i go further, i get out of the village, cross the road and walk through the open field where i came across a dying dog, take out my knife and cut off it's tail, i look around, another dead dog, and another, till i find a dead stalker, he's been ambushed by a pack of mutants dogs, i take all his stuffs and come back to the campfire and honor the dead stalker by feasting on his loot.

warped cliff
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Yesterday I had a funny thing with anomaly

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Because one thing is sure

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Dogs are overpowered

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Like

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In mobile lab in Yantar ecos have a spawn point

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So while running and screaming like a scared girl (legit eco tactic) from two dogs I ran into the lab

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Two dogs, remember

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Before they were killed 12 ecos died

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And respawned immediately

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In T-pose ofc

past briar
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Is that because dogs have over9k hp like cats or because NPCs cannot hit mutants at all?

warped cliff
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I think the first

past briar
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Anomaly is balanced

warped cliff
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And they are one-two bite kill

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It's just a beta, remember

past briar
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Dogs are supposed to die in a single shotgun blast lmao

warped cliff
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Yeah

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And dog bites shouldn't deal so much damage

north plover
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shieet, i havent really encountered dogs in anomaly too much

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still a fire mod tbh, definitely one of my favorites

earnest granite
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No one said that Anomaly is balanced, it's a stalker game

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And in it

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Both the FIRE DAMAGE and fire protection are broken as even if you upgrade your seva suit fully with only the fire and acid protection it won't change a bit and you will still mostly die instantly

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On the other hand SSP-Ruby is a good choosing for fire tho

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Remember that @warped cliff ecolog

warped cliff
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I know

hidden fossil
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Fact: OLR is the greatest mod because it allows you to murder children

warped cliff
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wait

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where

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when

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how

hidden fossil
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spoiler

warped cliff
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ah, ok

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I have even more motivation to play OLR

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also

hidden fossil
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hang on

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let me say it

warped cliff
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70 quicksaves is normal in OLR?

hidden fossil
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||According to the journalist, the karliks in OLR are actually mutated children from around the chernobyl exclusion zone||

warped cliff
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oh

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nice

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so LA DC does it aswell

hidden fossil
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not really

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because the karliks in la are just mutated humans who were dwarfed

warped cliff
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ah

hidden fossil
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while olr states that they are children

warped cliff
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nice

earnest granite
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@hidden fossil So does DC aswell

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Oh someone already said it

hidden fossil
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Yes but in dc theyre just mutated deformed humans

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While in olr its stated theyre Kids

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Which is based

earnest granite
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In Lost Alpha DC, what's the difference between DX10 and DX 10.1?

fierce matrix
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@warped cliff i think the bite from a Mutant dog would be pretty letal.

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Imagine the amount of infection it can cause.

warped cliff
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Yeah, but not as a bite

fierce matrix
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Wait, you saying one bite kills you in the game?

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instantly?

warped cliff
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One or two

fierce matrix
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Well yes, that doesn't make any sense.

dim torrent
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In real life mutated dog bite would be one of smallest problem you would encounter in the zone...

snow umbra
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if bloodsuckers are around then yeah lmao

dim torrent
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Radiation(and radiated artifacts) would make you sick after few days, you would have no energy and diarrhea would be your new best friend.
Military would just shoot you and take your stuff.
Bandits would not just sit in a park and sing a songs, they also would steal your stuff.
Blowout would not care if you are in some small building. It would melt your brain.
You could not find proper place to rest because of wild animals and other stalkers that.... want to kill you and take your stuff.
Anomalies would not be so visible and would melt your body and mind.... or just rip you apart.
Monolith would not stick to just few areas, they would probably do small rides in the middle of night to kill stalkers.

And Bloodsuckers would probably kill most of stalkers that walk alone....

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Overall I think Zone it self in real life would be treated WAY differently. It would be more like in book where there would be more scientist from all around the world

warped cliff
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To kill or drag them into BS

snow umbra
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radiation artifacts already kind of make you sick/poisoned if you dont balance them out

past briar
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And then you find a single -rad artifact and give no damn

warped cliff
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Yeah

dim torrent
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But in real life radiation dont just disappear after taking one pill or smoke cig :]
Radiation is nasty and it damage body in way that you can fix it at all

warped cliff
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Yeah

dim torrent
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one of reason why I would never go to the zone even if I love it 😦

warped cliff
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I'd go as a part of scientist team

dim torrent
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I have crappy digesting system and radiation first hit guts so I would be zombie after day or two 😄

warped cliff
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Well

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I don't need radiation poisoning to have Niagara Falls on toilet

dim torrent
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I think its offtopic so lets be happy that we are not radiated 😄

snow umbra
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some of us are going to be eventually

warped cliff
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We are all getting irridiated all the time

snow umbra
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yeah

hidden fossil
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i dont have much to live for and the zone is comfy

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im gonna go play the ORIGINAl lost alpha

earnest granite
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There is also a small possibility as to if the Zone was real and the Anomalies were real that it would create even much more powerful ones, even could create a gravity field that would suck you up into it from few metres and after that spaghettify you or completely mash you up

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I also should ping myself so @earnest granite

dim torrent
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i just wrote that its offtop -_-

earnest granite
snow umbra
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he means what were saying was off topic

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not that this channel is offtop

earnest granite
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And that's exactly why i'm noticing yall

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And meself

past briar
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Rip

balmy swan
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are there any mods that do not change the gameplay too much but make the graphics better for SoC?

neon socket
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of course

warped basalt
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@balmy swan Autumn Aurora

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It's just a graphic mod and a few gameplay features

balmy swan
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ive played it but didn't enjoy it

dim torrent
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beside weapons and some damages system its still SoC

modern night
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does anyone know where configs are stored in lost alpha's db files?

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i mean which one

earnest granite
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@modern night what configs are you looking for?

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I think you will have to indeed unpack them using a db unpacker

modern night
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nvm found it already

earnest granite
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Luckily this one, other than the other unpackers for stalker .db files, let's you choose the file you want to unpack and you don't need at least 6GB of Ram to use it

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Alright

fresh elk
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How much content is added in CoC?

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And is it compatible with Arsenal overhaul?

hollow saddle
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I’m pretty sure there is an Arsenal overal “Addon” for CoC in the addons section. Whatever coc has under its addons is compatible with it. And it should say for what versions

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CoC adds all the maps from the previous 3 stalker titles and puts them together, along with some returning features of the PDA. Check out its faq for what it adds

fresh elk
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Thanks! One more thing though, since I already have arsenal overhaul installed, if it were to be compatible, would I have to move the mod folder into an add on thing? Or could I just leave it.

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And can I get a link to the up to date version?

hollow saddle
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I mean it depends on what version of CoC you have. I’m not at my computer atm. I will be in about 30 mins. If someone hasn’t already answered this for you I’ll get the link for you and set that up

fresh elk
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Yeah for some reason I can only find 1.4.12

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Not the up to date version

hollow saddle
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@fresh elk im back, so as far as CoC, are you looking to get the 1.4.22, or the 1.5 beta?

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mb that was the 1.4.22 patch, this is the proper location ^

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If you get the 1.4.12, you can get the 1.4.22 patch and patch the 1.4.12 build, which is the stable version

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if will say on the addons, for what version its for, let me look for aresnal overhaul for you real quick

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IIRC your supposed to drag and drop the contents of the download into the gamedata folder, which is where you installed CoC

fresh elk
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wow

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the last mod I installed was Arsenal Overhaul, which was quite simple

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this seems daunting

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are there any tutorials you would recommend?

hollow saddle
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I can walk you through it if you want, tbh its actually really a simple task

fresh elk
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that would be great, thank you

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also what's this thing about 7zip?

hollow saddle
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Do you want the 1.5 beta version, or the stable 1.4.22?

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7zip or winrar are ok, they are basically programs that archive information

fresh elk
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stable 1.4.22 please

hollow saddle
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you can think of it as, it makes information smaller and easier to transfer.

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by compressing it.

fresh elk
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ah

hollow saddle
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Mod DB

Complete repack of Call of Chernobyl version 1.4.12. !IMPORTANT! Please read the description for more details.

Mod DB

This package will update all versions of CoC between 1.4.00 and 1.4.21 to 1.4.22. Please read the description:

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You need to have a valid copy of Stalker Call of Pripyat on your computer

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Do you have it installed somewhere, via steam or gog or something similar?

fresh elk
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steam

hollow saddle
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Ok, next up your gonna need to decide wether you want 7zip or winrar, (i prefer winrar but I mean it litterally has no effect choosing one over the other)

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its a relatively small download and should be super simple to install

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which would you like, and I can get the DL link for you

fresh elk
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I had winrar, but for some reason I decided to uninstall it

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I just downloaded 7zip

hollow saddle
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excellent

fresh elk
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😃

hollow saddle
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When your downloads finish let me know

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for now, I would check the addons section and download any addons you want that are compatible with 1.4.22

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since you'll have to wait for the download anyways

fresh elk
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gotcha

hollow saddle
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ping me with @hollow saddle once its finished, and ill help you install it :).

fresh elk
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thank you so much

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this might take a while to download, my internet is quite bad

hollow saddle
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Thats not a problem, I will be on for the next 8 hours. Take your time, and dont worry about it

fresh elk
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and will 7 zip convert the files for me?

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I downloaded the files before installing 7 zip

hollow saddle
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basically yes. what your downloading is just a compressed folder of stuff. you then use 7zip to open it and extract the files soewhere

fresh elk
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so they don't have a .zip

hollow saddle
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yeah you downloaded a zip file basically

fresh elk
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gotcha

hollow saddle
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like basically all 7zip does, is let you interact with the file you downloaded. The file is a zip file regardless if you can open it or not. so it will be all good

fresh elk
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@hollow saddle alright, it's finished downloading

hollow saddle
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Noice

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ok, now you need to decide where you want to put your game files. this is where the game will be installed to. I personally would just put it on my desktop

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but thats completely up to you. You could put it inside a games folder, on another harddrive, etc.

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be sure to remember however, you save data will also be inside this game installation folder

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take the zip file, from the 1.4.12 , so the first one. Open it up, and drag out the contents to your desktop (or where you want the game files to be located)

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it should be a folder named coc, or something similar

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(you have to open the zip folder with 7zip)

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if it doesnt have a folder like that

fresh elk
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so I have the folder in 7zip

hollow saddle
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you will have to make a folder call coc (or whatver you want to call it)

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and drag and drop the contents of the zip folder into it

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im looking at the beta 1.5, and thats how that ones setup

fresh elk
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for some reason I can't drag the full folder

hollow saddle
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so ill continue it there

upbeat vapor
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Hey, can anyone supply me with OLR 2.5's Fix 29 patch? Original link seems down... https://cloud.mail.ru/public/4CTJ/xpgDasf51

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Google doesnt have it either

neon socket
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@upbeat vapor

upbeat vapor
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Is that it, @neon socket ? Filename says 19to332...

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What does 332 mean?

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Every website has different filenames, so, you know

neon socket
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33.2

upbeat vapor
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Okay, are you sure if that works with SashaTheRed's English translation released few months bac?

neon socket
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idk, but this patch for the english version

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guys

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anomaly takes forever to open

upbeat vapor
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I'l see if it works later, thanks

neon socket
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do you all have the same problem?

upbeat vapor
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Yeah I do it never runs cause I'm using hundred years old PC

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In all seriousness, I don't know

fresh elk
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CoC restores cut mutants, right?

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So far I’ve seen cats, but not sure if the other cut mutants were re added

past briar
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I think it's only the cats.
Although there should be black poltergeists too.

fresh elk
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Huh

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What about full zombies? Iirc they’re in the survival mode thing

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Anybody know if this requires a new game?

hollow saddle
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@fresh elk

fresh elk
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Ah

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Thanks

hollow saddle
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np

hasty lion
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П

past briar
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@fresh elk actually yes. There are civilian zombies.
Maybe also fire and electro burers, but I'm not sure.

worldly dome
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How stable is Dead Air?

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Also is CoC 1.5 worth upgrading to?

tribal yacht
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play anomaly instead

worldly dome
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why?

tribal yacht
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just much more polished than dead air. CoC isnt really worth playing as its pretty much a dead project now and its developers have gone AWOL or moved onto other mods

worldly dome
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k gonna try it

fresh elk
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I wouldn’t say it’s not worth playing

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It’s been fun so far for me, and it’s my first time playing it as of three days ago

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Although I am still wondering how entertaining the free play mode is

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In terms of what you can do

past briar
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No
Play Goldsphere

tribal yacht
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yes play goldsphere too, but also OP2

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:)

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goldsphere is one of my favorite mods

past briar
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Although
OP2 is still an absolute unit

tribal yacht
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im 300 hours into my OP2.1 playthrough

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just reached the midgame

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:')

past briar
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This is OP2 my dudes
AAAAAAAAAAAA

tribal yacht
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100%ing 2.09 took 435 hours

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but 2.1 will seemingly take much longer from where im at right now

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god help me

past briar
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He won't

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impending_doom.wav

tribal yacht
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then i must persevere in the face of adversity

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frick you god i have kotobegemot on my side

past briar
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Begemot best kot ever

tribal yacht
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the one and only cat behemoth

past briar
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OH MY FRAGGING GOOOD
WHO IS THIS

tribal yacht
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its kotobegemot

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hes a tester for OP2 and a ukrainian translator

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he has his own NPC in the game

past briar
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Lmao

tribal yacht
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sends you off to find 13 crystal skulls and to collect schematics for an ultimate bioradar

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wish i was joking

past briar
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I have no words except ZA MONOLIT

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OP2 is the best clown fiesta in Svalker modding

tribal yacht
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you take the crystal skulls to the "shadow of the monolith" who is an invincible monolithian and he gives you the last skull and tells you to follow your heart, which transforms the skulls into an artifact called "Idol of the Monolith"

past briar
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+100500 to all stats?

tribal yacht
#

2.1 is surprisingly really fun when you get past the painful early game

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nope, its useless

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its for a quest later on, thats why

past briar
#

Weh weh weeeh

tribal yacht
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you get god mode artifacts much later into the game, 2.09 had a 48kg artifact that literally made you invincible

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the only way you could die is if whatever killed you would've 1shot you regardless

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you heal all your hp on the same frame you take damage

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its amazing

past briar
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OOF

tribal yacht
#

one of the rewards for beating the hardest quest in the game is a cache of crow eggs that make you fly

past briar
#

Yeah, even top tier CoC set is nowhere close

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Invincibility, flying
What else does it have?

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Oh, invisible exoskeleton probably

tribal yacht
#

...yes

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it has cloaking exoskeletons that are 1 time uses

past briar
#

Mhm. I've heard of that thing a few times.

tribal yacht
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you cant use weapons and they dont have much carry capacity

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so theyre pretty useless aside from some mandatory quests

past briar
#

Stealing sekret dokuments?

tribal yacht
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surprisingly not really, theres a few where you need to listen in on conversations, one where you need to wait and ambush, one where you steal a stash from the avengers, tools for sidorovich (but the cloaking exo is optional), etc etc

past briar
#

Mkay

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So it has deathclaws too

tribal yacht
#

but yeah, i beat this mod once and im still proud of it

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soon ill be able to say i beat it twice

past briar
#

And here I'm wondering why the author of Solyanka mod for Stason's modpack added Deathclaws, Librarians, Yao Ghai and SPOODERS

tribal yacht
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russian modders man

past briar
#

You know, that crappy model of spiders that barely has any animation
If at all

tribal yacht
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theyre next level

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yeah the ones that slide across the floor

past briar
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And drop boar meat

subtle beacon
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Cumulative pack 2etmF

past briar
#

Yes

hollow saddle
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-warn @tribal yacht swearing

tawny otterBOT
#
Auttaja

Punishment(s) Maxine#7346: 585974320373776 submitted successfully.

tribal yacht
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i forgot about that

hollow saddle
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-mute @tribal yacht 1h

tawny otterBOT
#
Auttaja

Punishment Maxine#7346: 585974492852240 submitted succesfully.

past briar
#

Psst
Russian part of the rules only forbids obscene/vulgar swearing

earnest granite
#

What? A deathclaw in stalker?

subtle beacon
#

Russian stalkersoup

earnest granite
#

Do you guys recommend RTTN?

past briar
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Well, it looked like a better version of Misery/Dead Air.

tribal yacht
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I don't recommend RTTN because it's mechanics are just a copy-paste of CoM without the polish of other mods that have caught up, like Anomaly. The narrative really isn't enough to keep you playing and the map layout is.. questionable

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play OP2 instead yes

earnest granite
#

I stopped playing it and deleted it from my PC as it was crashing every single of my playthroughs

fresh elk
#

How much is there to do except explore in CoC freeplay mode

earnest granite
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It has it's own 'original' story mode and it doesn't have all of the locations from CoC or really all the places and areas are moved into different plaecs

solar gust
#

can i do normal stalker's campaing with CoC installed?

tribal yacht
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no

tribal yacht
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Obligatory OP2.1 shill

past briar
#

KS-23 is love, KS-23 is life

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Top tier weapon for the Zone tbh

tribal yacht
#

its amazing

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6 shells costs 60k roubles

past briar
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Lmao

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Also it's supposed to have three round capacity + one in the chamber

upbeat vapor
#

Modding questions hour, gents

hollow saddle
#

I can answer any questions you got

upbeat vapor
#

Q: What is the best way to compress (or pack, you name it) game data into .DB/.XDB (CS only)?

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For SoC I know NatVac's tool does the work

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But where do you actually supply yourself a proper version of xrCompress to work with other 2 games?

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I am aware of Bangalore's version on GSC forums but not sure what did he do and whether it will work...

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People would say, why do you need to do that...loose files work okay

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I need to know tho

hollow saddle
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Unfortunately im not sure about that. I've never dabbled in that, only seen how to extract before and you use the gamedata folder to make changes.

upbeat vapor
#

Been years since I did this...

hollow saddle
#

I have no idea about re-compressing them

upbeat vapor
#

I had the tools in... 2012 I guess

hollow saddle
#

Hopefully someone with knowledge on the subject can speak about. Im gonna take a look to see what I can find about it though

upbeat vapor
#

Lost all of it

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This is what I'm talking about

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The compressor seems to be taken out of the official SDK but I can't find a trace of it 😄

hollow saddle
#

what exactly are you trying to do, like your project. are you trying to make a mod or?

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just simply edit some stuff, and put it back together again

upbeat vapor
#

For what is worth I am thinking on something but don't wanna have a lot of folders and files, rather than a simple .db file that you can install and remove with 1 click (literally)

#

No need to fiddle with the LTX files themselves

#

It works good in SoC, so it should be possible on CS and COP

#

Formats should be like this .DB > .XDB

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No difference at all

#

I might be wrong, tho

hollow saddle
#

Ahh I see, ok well I suggest you post your question again, just copy and paste it. So it has a bit more visibility from our conversation about it. I wish you the best of luck with someone having some answers or experience in this

upbeat vapor
#

Yup appreciated. thanks

#

Here you go, if anyone feels confused:
Q: What is the best way to compress (or pack, you name it) game data into .DB/.XDB (CS only)?

neon socket
#

hello stalkers

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i have a great request

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can i have a torrent file for the Misery mod?

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because i have shitty download speed in chrome

hollow saddle
#

ah actually nvm

#

let me keep looking gimmie a sec

neon socket
#

Is there a torrent file on ModDB?

hollow saddle
#

yeah thats what I thought but I cant find it

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this is not on moddb

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its the misery site, so maybe thats better?

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oh you know what, its still moddb

neon socket
#

It is

hollow saddle
#

yeah

neon socket
#

It's simply a 7z file and you can't really find a secure torrent file

hollow saddle
#

I would just get it from their site and deal with the slow download

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or is your speed so slow, that it causes the download to fail?

neon socket
#

yea

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i download with 30kb/s

hollow saddle
#

mhm yeah I figured that was the problem

neon socket
#

in chrome

hollow saddle
#

o.o

neon socket
#

but when i use torrent my download speed os 2mb/s

hollow saddle
#

I feel you, I was stuck with sateleite internet for a while, and it was slow, and when you went over your cap it was 10/ks

neon socket
#

I used to have a problem when my download speed would simply drop down real slow until it reached an unbelievably "disrespectful" speed

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Like, less than 10 kb/s

hollow saddle
#

I was able to download anything really fast unless it was over 9.9 mbs

neon socket
#

thats why i download a mod i always look for a torrent file

hollow saddle
#

in total size

neon socket
#

im currently saving for better internet (Note that im only 14 and have no money thats why it will take a long tie for me)

#

How much do you pay a month for your internet?

hollow saddle
#

yeah im not seeing anything as far as torrents for misery

neon socket
#

The only solution would be to create a torrent file for someone and share it

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But even that would be a bit difficult as all hell

hollow saddle
#

oh i c, the 14 situation yeah that does make it tough

neon socket
#

and i live in a 2nd world country

neon socket
#

is anyone here familiar with the old AMK Mod?

ornate trench
#

define "familiar"

neon socket
#

@ornate trench Familiar as in do you know if there is a spawn mod within the game or a debug mode? i want to spawn in ammo or weapons in the mod

sinful temple
#

you may/may not want to camp the keypad door in lost alpha's pripyat undergrounds

#

their loot is free real estate but your game lags

earnest granite
#

@sinful temple what place is this?

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I want to know, lol

hollow saddle
#

thats radar

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the entrance to the underground lab, near the train tracks going underground

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err, well thats what it looks like. but he said it was lost alphas pripyat undergrounds

mild remnant
#

x

sinful temple
#

lost alpha underground right before the exit to pripyat city

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maybe it doesn't really exit to pripyat city idk there were too many zombies and lag to properly play through it

royal echo
#

Monster kill

warped cliff
#

Have you seen new update of RoH?

hollow saddle
#

The answer to that question is yes. for others interested

sinful temple
#

anyone finished the canon ending for lost alpha?

#

after i kill the first pyrogeist nothing happens

#

i later tried to open the locked door with a gauss gun but that didn't seem to work either

#

i will upload the video of my issue shortly

sinful temple
worthy frigate
#

@sinful temple there are some things as in SoC, blue generators
You have to brake it all

sinful temple
#

shooting them worked. the whole time i wanted to conserve ammo and knife it/grenade it instead but those methods didn't work

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but my issue is solved, thanks

hollow saddle
#

@tribal yacht watch the swearing pls, ty

snow umbra
#

that looks pretty cool

warped cliff
#

Yeah, although they need to do shading work

warped basalt
#

Today I new updated location
This is pretty old, believe me

warped cliff
#

Looks like it

#

But still, I love that the map will be open

#

And forests finally

#

Something that lacked in the zone for me

fresh elk
#

Dang no mutants yet

white geode
#

so recently almost all stalker modification (overhauls) like CoC,Anomaly and Dead Air etc. cause my pc to crash mostly blackscreen with the sound repeating over and over again even the pc doesnt restart and I actually tried alot of work arounds but none of these could actually help me out

#

what can i do

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i have zero performance issues most mods are very stable 60fps+

#

actually made a thread on reddit but it doesnt seem that anyone could help me out

warped cliff
#

Hmm, can't help you with that

white geode
#

it would be great if some of the moderators could reply or even the devs but that doesnt seem to be happening anyway but thanks for trying dude

warped cliff
#

I'm gonna ask on some other servers

#

Maybe they'll be able to help

white geode
#

i actually tried that on the anomaly discord but they cant help either i could try again

warped cliff
#

I will try on bs

white geode
#

but that would be very nice

#

thanks dude

warped cliff
#

Np

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@white geode you obviously have cop installed

white geode
#

no most mods i have are repacks

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without cop included

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ive got CoC 1.5r6 standalone

warped cliff
#

Wait, you don't have CoP installed?

white geode
#

and anomaly 1.5.0 repack

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nope

warped cliff
#

Here's your problem mate

white geode
#

i have to intsall CoP?

warped cliff
#

Yeah

subtle beacon
#

Yep. CoC can't run, if in register your pc not exist what you install CoP

white geode
#

well if thats the case i could try it out but how do I apply the mods on cop then or do i just have it to be installed

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because you can play coc without cop

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by -skip_reg command

subtle beacon
#

Why u don't use that command?

warped cliff
#

@white geode technically you can but its still not a proper answer

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And you just need to have CoP installed

subtle beacon
#

In any folder

warped cliff
#

It can even have another mod on it

#

I have Spatial Anomaly on CoP for example

#

And stuff like CoC and Anomaly still work

white geode
#

im gonna try it out

#

lets see if it does actually fixes it

hollow saddle
#

You said your PC itself crashes when you try to launch the game?

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(the mods like coc Anomoly etc.)

white geode
#

No it crashes in game after a couple of minutes

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Sometimes after 30 or 1h gameplay

subtle beacon
#

Oh, how much Ram on your PC?

white geode
#

16gb

subtle beacon
#

@white geode bro, wrote it on Anomaly mod server, I think it will be better

white geode
#

Already did that bro im actually testing the game out with dx9 on windowed mode

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I dont have any crashes so far

subtle beacon
#

Dx9 with full screen?
Or u want dx11

white geode
#

Dx9 windowed at the moment for testing

#

Seems like it could have been a dx issue

#

Even though i have the latest dx version

#

Strange

subtle beacon
#

What is GPU u used?

white geode
#

Gtx 970

subtle beacon
#

I have some problems with OGSE 2 years ago, and problem fixed with downgrade drivers for GPU, but I not sure, what that's help

white geode
#

Hmmm well im Playing on dx9 right now and i dont experience any issue so far

loud hazel
#

anyone could explain to me how to reliably get a weapon / general model from stalker to blender?

#

soc specifically

winged raft
#

Hello all, I've hit a stump and need some help. I'm trying to turn the 9 inch M203 on the M16 in AO 3.1, to a 12 inch M203 (like the one from STCoP). However, it seems like the M203 model is, itself, part of the M16 model. I tried changing the textures, mesh, and weapon config all to no avail. But if the M203 is part of the actual M16 model, then there will be nothing I can do, because I suck at modeling beyond all belief. Thank you.

tribal yacht
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I think how it works is that every weapon with attachments just has a seperate model entirely for the attachment, so youd need to change every model that has the m203 attachment if youre trying to make the m203 a 16 inch

winged raft
#

See that's what I had originally imagined, but after searching through every weapon file in both AO and STCoP there are no weapon models for specifically the m203. Only for scopes and other optics, i.e: m16_eot.ogf or ak74m_kobra.ogf. That's why I'm worried that it might be contained within the main weapon ogf; m16a3.ogf and just hidden on the mesh until it is attached to the gun in-game. I only have the models, meshes, textures, the whole works, for the long m203. But in-game when I attach it, it still shows up as the short m203, but with no textures, just solid blue with no lighting effects. So, if my theory is right, and the m203 is apart of each model individually, there is nothing I can do.

upbeat vapor
#

Hey @warped cliff Sorry for pinging

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What do you need to run RttN besides latest CoP version?

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I own the games on steam ^^

warped cliff
#

I think that that's all

upbeat vapor
#

Gotta try it then!

warped cliff
#

Do it

white geode
#

FATAL ERROR

[error]Expression : no_assert
[error]Function : CXML_IdToIndex<class CSpecificCharacter>::GetById
[error]File : c:\13\engine coc 1.5 r6 (remake)\src\xrserverentities\xml_str_id_loader.h
[error]Line : 112
[error]Description : item not found, id
[error]Arguments : sim_default_csky_1_default_22

#

what does that mean?

hollow saddle
#

next time this should prolly be in #🔨-technical ,
but pretty sure that either an item is missing or it could be a bug considering its coc1.5 which is still beta and not 100% stable.

#

((I'll give you some more info on it in #🔨-technical gotta look it up a bit. not 100% on where the error stems from))

upbeat vapor
#

Alright I took proamlus advice and went to download Road to the North

#

Only to be confused which files I need

#

Correct me if I'm wrong

warped cliff
#

I think it is

upbeat vapor
#

Hmm, okay I can spare another 12 gigs!

#

Thanks for the clarification

#

Time to go north in 5 hours, eh

#

😄

sinful temple
#

hi all, i have an issue with oblivion lost

#

everything in the mod works just fine except for some items' descriptions and names

upbeat vapor
#

Few hours into RTTN I'm getting real annoyed by some gameplay stuff missing

#

My flashlight always fails to work and I'm missing my minimap

#

Have to keep PDA opened each second

#

Is this done on purpose or its bugged?

warped cliff
#

Lack of minimap is good

#

And how does your flashlight fail?

upbeat vapor
#

It just doesnt work

#

Clicks for a second then turns off

warped cliff
#

Ah

#

You have to buy a headlamp

upbeat vapor
#

Is this a battery thing now?

warped cliff
#

Otherwise you need to have a handheld flashlight

#

And what is wrong with the PDA again?

upbeat vapor
#

I'm used to the minimap instead of opening and closing the world map...like 500 times a hour

#

😄

#

Gets annoying (or I'm not used to it)

#

I can say I rarely played Misery

#

...

warped cliff
#

Ah

#

I don't need the map that much

#

You know, I like to plan my routes

upbeat vapor
#

So the minimap was cut off from the game or just disabled?

#

I am lazy to check that myself in the gamedata

warped cliff
#

I think that it's cut off

sinful temple
#

my oblivion lost issue was solved by changing the game's language to english, in case anybody else needs a fix

left rapids
#

Which one do you guys recommend? LA DC or OL ?

tribal yacht
#

OLR 2.5

#

with its english translation

#

i have a repack for it too )

left rapids
#

Mmmhkay Thx, Max..

#

May I ask why OLR ?

earnest granite
#

LA DC if you're looking for a fresh breath of air and a new, somewhat original playthrough, tho you need a good PC for the best effect

tribal yacht
#

OLR 2.5 is a faithful recreation of the older builds and stays true to the design documents

#

so its a very good way to experience stalker as it would've been in 2004

#

its like playing a history

#

LA takes way too many departures from Oblivion Lost and has a pretty piss poor story with some really cringy rewrites

warped cliff
#

Hmm

#

Anything new on The Armed Zone?

subtle beacon
#

New TAZ Still in development?

warped cliff
#

I think so

#

it was supposed to be released in May, I've heard

vestal thunder
#

For anyone who play or played Stalker Spatial Anomaly: ||How can I kill shell?, when i tried to shoot at him, he always kill me in two shoots thank for his PKM also to make the situation dificult he is a literal bullet sponge||

hot turret
#

At first I read "how can I kill myself"
depression.exe

warped cliff
#

@vestal thunder ||Run fast to the ladder where Shell is and climb it then shoot at his feet||

vestal thunder
#

Ok i will tried that

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Strangely it work thank you

warped cliff
#

np

rustic kindle
#

So about S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Chernobyl which is a mod, is it possible to get the Svarog detector? And if it's possible, where do I get it?

subtle beacon
#

@rustic kindle yantar, or Jupiter

rustic kindle
#

Is there any mission I need to do or do I find it somewhere in a specific location?

subtle beacon
#

Do tasks for scientists, and on sale they will appear

rustic kindle
#

Okay, thanks.

stiff seal
vestal thunder
#

I have a question, does stalker anomaly requers 64 bit windows to play it?

tribal yacht
#

its a 64 bit engine so yes

vestal thunder
#

How bad, i cant play it

neon socket
#

Hey guys

#

Just finished CoP

#

Any recommended mods that I should play?

warped cliff
#

hmm

#

Try out LA DC/OLR

neon socket
#

Pls no bulli

warped cliff
#

and if you want to get into freeplays then play something like Anomaly

#

or Road to the North

#

and I'm not the one to bully anybody

#

I'm just a friendly serverhood brony guy

#

@neon socket do you understand russian?

neon socket
#

Other than profanity

#

No

warped cliff
#

so russian mods are a no

#

hmm

#

so yeah

#

first play something like Oblivion Lost Remake

#

or Lost Alpha DC

#

depends what will get to you better

neon socket
#

How bout CoP mods? 🤔

warped cliff
#

CoP doesn't have that many mods

#

main ones are freeplays

#

they basically open the whole map from 3 games for you

#

and give no story

#

(depends on a mod)

#

For example Anomaly 1.5 has an integrated story

#

and Call of Chernobyl has it aswell

#

and I'd say that CoC is the closest to og stalker feeling

neon socket
#

If I recall correctly

#

Those are the kind of mods where you can freely roam around right?

warped cliff
#

yeah

neon socket
#

I'm actually interested in those

warped cliff
#

so for those I'd reccomend Anomaly, Road to the North and Dead Air

neon socket
#

Okay man, I'll try those

prisma parrot
#

You know русский?

hot turret
#

@prisma parrot
niet

prisma parrot
#

Horosho @hot turret

green gorge
#

Anomaly makes Dead Air obsolete

#

Try Anomaly first, and if that's too "hardcore" for you then CoC

neon socket
#

dead air's gameplay fits only a handful of people

#

imo

#

including me

green gorge
#

Millenia is here?

#

beautiful

azure tinsel
#

👋

#

Looks like Lost Alpha already uses this same model with the weapon addon so it'll be trivial for me to just replace the textures 😃

#

saves me the hassle of converting the model

crystal remnant
#

I'm thinking of trying call of chernobyl, which version of it is the best/most finished?

tribal yacht
#

Anomaly

hollow saddle
#

prolly the 1.5 beta of CoC, but personally I use CoM 1.03 with all the addons + 64bit engine from Anomaly and custom edited tweaks. but to each their own it kinda depends on what you want

#

Anomaly would probably be a better bet then just CoC on its own. Way easier then setting up CoC with a bunch of addons, or CoM with a bunch of addons.

hot turret
#

@azure tinsel
Looks cool, but the grip is quite odd to my eye. Too bright maybe?

azure tinsel
#

Yeah 50% that 50% reshade vibrance filter

#

Its much less eye searing without reshade

green gorge
#

CoC 1.5 beta is less stable than Anomaly 1.5 beta

#

and like Maxine said Anomaly is really the best/most finished

#

Still in development (CoC is dead) and feature-wise it is ahead of CoC

#

with that said I think both need addons

#

like dynamic faction relations

neon socket
#

Hey boyos

#

When setting my FOV in Misery should I set it to a number that prevents fishbowling?

green gorge
#

set it to whatever you like lol

#

some weirdos like fishbowling

#

they also probably like other bizarre things like foreign objects inserted into parts of their body where they don't belong

neon socket
#

😮

azure tinsel
#

here's the makarov without reshade @hot turret

#

still brighter than real makarov grips though i was going for a ak74 orange bakelite mag type look on it

hot turret
#

It's much better though

azure tinsel
#

yeah lol

#

i should turn reshade off for screenshots

#

it's nice to play with

silent stratus
worthy frigate
#

@silent stratus because we don't make new anomations, actually we can't

silent stratus
#

ah i see

#

@worthy frigate also in lost alpha what does gulags mean?

#

idk if its only in LA

worthy frigate
#

What do you mean?

dim torrent
#

gulags in stalker are "works" that stalker do, like walk to fireplace etc

silent stratus
#

ah i see

#

is that also the squatting at fireplace or only the walking thing?

#

also does anyone know how to fix crazy lagspikes every second in lost alpha DC at some places like the sin leader place?

#

kinda makes it impossible for me to progress in the game now

stiff tangle
#

btw which mod are u trying these weapons in?

#

or is it ur mod urself?

dim torrent
#

its really anything that stalker do, gulags are all those stuff that stalker do when not in combat

onyx shore
#

whats the best mod out for stalker right now?

tribal yacht
#

OP2 :^)

#

im seriousness there is no real "best" mod unless youre looking for something specific

#

want the best freeplay mod? anomaly
best story mod? maybe wind of time or spatial anomaly
best atmosphere in any mod? maybe goldsphere

#

etc

onyx shore
#

whats op2?

tribal yacht
#

a massive mod based off narodnaya solyanka

#

its... unique

timid blaze
#

So just wondering, I've been playing Call of Chernobyl for a few weeks and had a blast with it. Ive also done some more snooping and seen some other mods im interested if they are worth playing. The two main ones are anomaly and deadair and just wondering which if they are worth checking out should i check out first

warped cliff
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Hmm

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So Anomaly has more stuff than Dead Air

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But Dead Air has a better atmosphere overall imo

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I like the slow movement speed from Dead Air

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Also its repair system was a breeze of fresh air (pun intended)

timid blaze
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love the atmosphere of stalker, il try dead air first thanks!

warped cliff
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Wait

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I'm not saying that it has the OG stalker atmosphere

timid blaze
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kk

green gorge
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Anomaly makes Dead Air obsolete

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If you like Dead Air's atmosphere more, that must be because of different vegetation? Chances are whatever vegetation mod it uses would work on Anomaly

warped cliff
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That's actually the reason why I don't like animaly

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Vegetation

green gorge
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Can always be changed, though it has the highest quality vegetation I've seen in Stalker

warped cliff
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Yeah, but it just doesn't suit my taste

green gorge
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install absolute nature over it and choose your favorite preset

dim torrent
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Vegetation, colors or models?

warped cliff
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I don't know

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Something is off

dim torrent
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... so you dont like it but dont know why.... like seriously?

warped cliff
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Yeah, I have this with many things

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I know that something is off

dim torrent
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I made that vegetation and such opinions are not really helpful to fix them....

warped cliff
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Ik

dim torrent
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like people say its bad but dont say why...

warped cliff
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I'm not saying that it's bad

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Don't get me wrong

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I'm saying that it just isn't it for me

dim torrent
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so tell me what is for you...

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what would you change

warped cliff
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Hmm

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Idk how to say it

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Well, Dead Air and Road to the North had the vegetation that I liked

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Especially RttN

dim torrent
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so low res repeatable brown bushes?

warped cliff
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Well, the res and repeating is the thing that I didn't like

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But it's that style I prefer

green gorge
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Anomaly vegetation is tha best

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The only thing that can be improved are the trees that line the Cordon, since they look lower quality than everything else

stiff tangle
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so anomaly is the best stalker out there?

green gorge
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We're just talking graphics lol

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Best graphics yes

dim torrent
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Well as far as I know Anomaly will dump my grass so better make backup if you like it so much...

stiff tangle
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but i hear a lot from anomaly

green gorge
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Best graphics, best freeplay unless you dislike the Misery stuff in which case CoC is the best freeplay

stiff tangle
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any1 played misery?

green gorge
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And noted

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I will back up that vegetation

warped cliff
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Anomaly is a great mod

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Although it's unstable on my pc

green gorge
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@dim torrent Worst case scenario, is your grass available as a separate download?

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1.5 beta 2.4 has minor instability

stiff tangle
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does anomaly contains some more places that Call of Chernobyl?

dim torrent
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I had it on my moddb, but removed it because I was preparing new version

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and forgot about it...

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And then I canceled whole Two-K mod...

stiff tangle
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ahh man anomaly is a lot of GB

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more than COC

dim torrent
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HD content

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you cant have HD without size

stiff tangle
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does anomaly have faction choose
?

dim torrent
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yes

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and many more

warped cliff
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Yeah

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(choose ecos)

stiff tangle
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idk, maybe anomaly is just like COC

warped cliff
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It has more content

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And it's more misery-like

stiff tangle
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so it means hard?

dim torrent
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nope its medicore but have lots of features

warped cliff
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Wouldn't say hard

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Yeah

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It has many stuff

stiff tangle
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if anyone of u played misery i see multiplayer option on misery, is it proper multiplayer or fake?

warped cliff
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Especially battery juggling with new battery system

stiff tangle
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looks like anomaly is the best COP mod out there, lets say i get anomaly

warped cliff
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Ok

dim torrent
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best open world, there are better in terms of story and gameplay, but mostly in russian or in translation stage

stiff tangle
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i really wish for a online mod

dim torrent
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look for xrMPE mod its on the work

stiff tangle
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i heard its still deathmatch

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and just mutants out there not NPC stalkers

dim torrent
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its still WIP cant expect much in this stage

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but its better than RoH that its meme

stiff tangle
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xrmpe its not on internet

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RoH i feel its fake

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i mean, i personally want a proper good old stalker graphic online exprience, but this time survival, not remastered

warped cliff
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RoH isn't fake as much as it's just in a some sort of development hell

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Not the normal game type

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The indie game type

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Where creators just don't have time/coordination to do stuff

dim torrent
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no they had time, but they decided to focus on some crap that have nothing to do with WHOLE POINT OF ROH(read coop game)

warped cliff
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Yeah

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Like some sort of development procrastination?

dim torrent
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its really like advertising Half-Life 3 and focusing on.... sales on valve... its the same stuff -_-

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they make some concept arts, music, posters, some weird BR stuff, weird systems and changes on maps that have no point at all in current stage...

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I hope xrMPE will not do the same mistake

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Focus on multiplayer code and system. Then maps, then animations and at the end all others stuff when rest is ready

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Of course I know that few people can work on them in the same time(artist do their stuff programmers their stuff) but primary should be code for multiplayer, rest are just addons.

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RoH advertise it self as "hope" of stalker that give it multiplayer.... but they show new gun models, music and other stuff not related to multiplayer. And they wonder why everyone call it meme mod

stiff tangle
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i dont see anywhere for anomaly to say that i need COP

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do i need COP installed for anomaly?

green gorge
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nah

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standalone

stiff tangle
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Damn i got COP for it

warm ruin
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Play vanilla first before playing mods.

green gorge
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Yeah that's a given, Anomaly doesn't have CoP's story/campaign

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Although you can and should use mods on your first playthrough, just nothing huge like Anomaly

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CoP with Atmosfear or SWTC, Absolute Nature 4, Absolute Structures, STCoP and maybe some kind of outfit mod

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Or if you think you'd like Misery 2, you might want to use that

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since they don't touch the story/campaign/quests

tribal yacht
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can and should

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no you shouldnt

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the vanilla games are fine

snow umbra
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maybe a graphics mod or smth if you really dislike older graphics that much

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but yeah the games are fine without mods

green gorge
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No harm in improving the graphics with mods as good as those, and adding more/better weapons to the game

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No reason to not make a game better

tribal yacht
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but it doesnt need it

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and adding weapons always ruins the balance of the game

green gorge
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First argument is subjective - some will feel it needs mods

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Second is wrong

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All mods don't disrupt balance

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can easily improve it if you take matters into your own hands slightly

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Stalker's vanilla balance is so bad that various mods will improve it

tribal yacht
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CoP's balance is bad yes

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but most people won't go out of the way to tweak mods to make it balanced

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recommending mods for a first time is just stupid

green gorge
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Recommending simple downloads that only improve the game is anything but stupid, it is a logical thing to do

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Avoiding simple mods that improve it is what's stupid

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For example, why avoid Absolute Nature

dim torrent
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Graphic addons are OK, they don't mess atmosphere
Gyns addons? They somehow do, because they spoil players with 100 versions of AK and AR and mess that struggle to get good equipment.
Gameplay mods? Depend, if it's like tweaks in survival aspect or addons like items or artifacts... Maybe if it's something light...

I would not recommend misery for first play, it's just bad mod for that (and overall it's bad).
For any first gameplay of stalker clean game is must have... This is sad truth, graphic addons like Absolute Nature 3 or Two-K are OK because they keep gameplay original but anything else for first play is no-go.

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If someone never played stalker, Anomaly is bad mod to start, Soc is priority especially without even graphic addons. Atmosphere in this game is just kicking butts and because of that atmosphere we all love it. If we dissect stalker to peaces its actually really average game, but atmosphere of it give huge boost to every aspect of it

green gorge
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There's a large amount of gamers who like "hardcore survival" that would actually prefer Misery 2, I acknowledge it but don't outright recommend it

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Also many weapon addons don't just make all the extra guns easily available to the player

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So I don't know why that illusion is being presented here

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The real truth is that pretty much every gamer would prefer the modded game over vanilla, and that most gamers do not replay games

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The logical conclusion is to go for the modded superior game

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But yes nobody should start with a total conversion like Anomaly

stiff tangle
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Im actulky ok with this systems of vanilla grapchic
I finished clear sky
Almost SOC
Idk how to get through with pripyat

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COP is so compliocated

snow umbra
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id say the opposite

stiff tangle
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I didnt know anomaly doesnt need COP

green gorge
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lol

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CoP is complicated?

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You just follow objective markers until you reach the finish line

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If you want a complicated game, go try Myst (realMyst: Masterpiece Edition) lol

azure tinsel
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I've been really enjoying lost alpha

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Didn't get around to playing it before

hot turret
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Never really liked LA tbh

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The mod itself is great but the story feels just like immature stalker fanfiction

tribal yacht
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Because it is immature stalker fanfiction

hot turret
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I guess

tribal yacht
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Even with the illuminati part being removed it's still not very good writing

green gorge
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Yeah, LA DC at least remedies the gameplay significantly though

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So it is worth playing

azure tinsel
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i'm more in it for the general atmosphere anyways

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not like i play stalker for the story itworks

green gorge
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It has the best maps of any stalker

azure tinsel
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quickie textures for the bm16

hot turret
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Perhaps I'll give LA a second chance one day

green gorge
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You and your jizz worthy weapon textures

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Never gets old

azure tinsel