Because it’s a better round 
#⭐┃nospoilers_general
still ridge
still ridge
there’s no AK-47 or AKM in stalker
wild jasper
Besides that, there's a reason why they switched to 5.45 instead of 7.62
@pseudo rivet yeah i get that the frangibility thing is cool but sometimes you just need the raw stopping power right?
pseudo rivet
Both the weapons and the ammo
pseudo rivet
yeah i get that the frangibility thing is cool but sometimes you just need the raw stopping power right?
That's why some legendary stalker used the AKM-47/2 in the past
still ridge
The real life version is the AKS-74U
wild jasper
That's why some legendary stalker used the AKM-47/2 in the past
@pseudo rivet oh
wild jasper
ye
pseudo rivet
still ridge
So yeah, GSC didn’t feel like adding two types of AK ammo
wild jasper
oh
still ridge
So they just stuck with 5.45 and didn’t bother adding 7.62x39
wild jasper
oh
pseudo rivet
No need to add it, anyways
wild jasper
do we need all of the redundant ak variants in stalker 2 (ak 101, 102, 103, 104, 105)
still ridge
Absolutely not
still ridge
wild jasper
so just the 104
still ridge
Same brainwave @pseudo rivet
pseudo rivet
Aye
still ridge
No not even the new modernized ones
wild jasper
No not even the new modernized ones
@still ridge ak 12 and 15?
pseudo rivet
No
wild jasper
what about the slightly different ones like the aks
still ridge
AK-74 and AKS-74U are the only ones needed
pseudo rivet
AKS is already in STALKER
still ridge
uhhh
pseudo rivet
Eh
still ridge
Don’t see why not
pseudo rivet
I'mma meh on that
wild jasper
m1a would be cool
still ridge
Since there’s an SVD why not add some western equivalent
pseudo rivet
I'd say just have the shotgun and pistol available for Rookies
wild jasper
Since there’s an SVD why not add some western equivalent
@still ridge yeah
still ridge
I have no issue with it
wild jasper
I'd say just have the shotgun and pistol available for Rookies
@pseudo rivet yeah
wild jasper
i think just a pistol and shotgun would be nice
still ridge
I mean the krinkov is a rookie weapon
still ridge
Not that the krinkov is accurate at long range but it’s better than a pistol
wild jasper
Besides, your ranged weapon would just be a pistol
@pseudo rivet the pistol shouldn't be garbage like in shadow of chernobyl
still ridge
PMm gang
wild jasper
i heard that its bad
tired anvil
PMm gang
still ridge
Depends on how you use it
pseudo rivet
Most of those guys out there have a huge L2P issue
still ridge
^
tired anvil
Especially with Clear Sky
pseudo rivet
Especially with Clear Sky
still ridge
they spam it even though that literally makes it shoot at the dirt 2 meters in front of you
Or the ally that’s 10 feet away from the renegade in swamps
wild jasper
friendly fire or no (to like your faction)
pseudo rivet
Yes
wild jasper
yey
pseudo rivet
Problem is, they usually get too offended by that
wild jasper
oh
tired anvil
People get too offended by CS as a whole
pseudo rivet
People get too offended by CS as a whole
wild jasper
what do you mean when you say CS is it an abreviation or something
pseudo rivet
Clear Sky
still ridge
Clear sky
tired anvil
Clear Sky
pseudo rivet
Epic
still ridge
Lol everyone at the same time
wild jasper
oh
tired anvil
SoC = Shadow of Chernobyl
CS = Clear Sky
CoP = Call of Pripyat
wild jasper
ok
pseudo rivet
Alright, I finally watched that video
still ridge
Ok
pseudo rivet
Custom upgrades which fit the visual upgrades
I'd just prefer visual upgrades for things like the CoP upgrades
That would be epic
wild jasper
Custom upgrades which fit the visual upgrades
removing the dust cover makes it faster but it jams more
pseudo rivet
Sounds wack
wild jasper
why
still ridge
I don’t want anything that messes with the internals
wild jasper
ok
tired anvil
Why would you remove the dust cover though?
pseudo rivet
'Cuz wackage
still ridge
I mean you can upgrade guns to make them shoot faster but there’s nothing that shows it
wild jasper
I don’t want anything that messes with the internals
@still ridge removing the dust cover doesn't change the gas system
still ridge
I’m having trouble interpreting what you mean @pseudo rivet
pseudo rivet
I'd just prefer visual upgrades for things like the CoP upgrades
So, for things like ergonomic grips, stocks and barrel replacements
As for internals, these are obviously not visibles
still ridge
Tfw no three barreled toz
still ridge
Tfw no aircraft cannon small arm
pseudo rivet
still ridge
KS-23 gang
tired anvil
Tfw no AC-130
wild jasper
tfw quad barreled shotgun
still ridge
too far @tired anvil
wild jasper
b a n g (x4)
still ridge
yeah for the monolith F-16s
pseudo rivet
wild jasper
tfw no dakka car
still ridge
the chad loner Po-2
pseudo rivet
still ridge
Nah bro don’t you know
tired anvil
tfw no dakka car
If you finish CoP you will learn smth interesting
still ridge
Po-2 credited with downing an F-100 super saber
tired anvil
Not F-100 but yeah
wild jasper
@pseudo rivet Q U A D B A R R E L E D S H O T G U N
still ridge
Oh?
pseudo rivet
tired anvil
Some dude crashed into a mountain because he stalled trying to shoot down a biplane going 100 km/h
still ridge
was it an F-4?
tired anvil
F-94
wild jasper
w a i t
still ridge
how he gonna shoot down a po-2 with rockets
wild jasper
R E V O L V E R S H O T G U N
still ridge
That thing doesn’t have guns iirc
still ridge
In world of warplanes they gave it an M61 LOL
tired anvil
Never played that game
still ridge
Good, don’t
pseudo rivet
still ridge
stick to war thunder for air combat
tired anvil
Also F-94 had 4x12.7
wild jasper
Sounds like it would look like Harley's revolver in B:TAS
@pseudo rivet it's like volley guns from the 16-1700s but it has shotgun shells
tired anvil
Yea
Gotta love how the most memed biplane of all time also is the only biplane to take down a jet
Just unintentionally adding to it
still ridge
Lol that Korean dude in the back prolly laughed his ass off
@tired anvil does that count as profanity?
tired anvil
Nah
wild jasper
@still ridge @tired anvil @pseudo rivet
B E L T F E D S H O T G U N
B E L T F E D S H O T G U N
B E L T F E D S H O T G U N
B E L T F E D S H O T G U N
still ridge
Yikes
tired anvil
I'm surprised the bot didn't get you
wild jasper
oof
tired anvil
Quite strange
pseudo rivet
Yikes
tired anvil
Welcome back
pseudo rivet
Who's back?
tired anvil
Welcome Crimson
tired anvil
Power outage again?
wild jasper
doesnt matter welcome back
tired anvil
still ridge
I wonder why
pseudo rivet
still ridge
Lol
pseudo rivet
They look epic, though
still ridge
That has to be a troll @tired anvil
pseudo rivet
X
tired anvil
Idc I'm falling for it
pseudo rivet
Because I think the same
still ridge
Y’all ever just
pseudo rivet
wild jasper
replace all vowels in your name with 'oob'
still ridge
It took them 11 years to make a 4th game and they call it stalker 2 how dujmb
pseudo rivet
it took them 11 years to make a 4th game and they call it stalker 2 how dujmb
tired anvil
Again, idc, I'm falling for it lol
I take most things too seriously which is a bad thing but oh well
tired anvil
Stalker 4
pseudo rivet
But seen how it's a new game, S.T.2 would speak more volume
wild jasper
yeah
pseudo rivet
I can understand the choice
tired anvil
Tbh I like the sound of s2
still ridge
I don’t know if that’s still the official name though
tired anvil
2 is just two, sounds simple and I like it
wild jasper
stonker
pseudo rivet
S.T.2 sounds epic
still ridge
It’s not too late to give it a name
pseudo rivet
Pretty sure it is
tired anvil
Not really
wary cove
||Return of Strider||
tired anvil
Went from Oblivion Lost to SoC in months
still ridge
^
pseudo rivet
Not what I meant
tired anvil
Dang
still ridge
I think stalker 2 is just an intermediary name
pseudo rivet
Just serious X on them changing the name
tired anvil
Oh yeah no doubt
still ridge
Might have been the plan to begin with
pseudo rivet
tired anvil
Imo 2 actually works very well
still ridge
Yeah I have no issues with it
tired anvil
Like ok, they sorta say that CoP and CS and less important, but they also in a way state that it's the next big thing
still ridge
But I think it would be more appealing if it had an actual name
tired anvil
Like yeah, this is THE second stalker
pseudo rivet
Still, hate how they say that CS and CoP are just add-ons
tired anvil
I dislike it, but oh well
finite dragon
Excuse me
pseudo rivet
wary cove
Who said that
pseudo rivet
Exactly
wild jasper
do we need more instruments in stalker 2
tired anvil
Not really
pseudo rivet
Not really
finite dragon
@wild jasper KAZOO
wild jasper
@wild jasper KAZOO
@finite dragon a c c o r d i o n
finite dragon
Oh yeah thats beautiful
wary cove
Saxophone
wild jasper
like seriously we need accordions
pseudo rivet
Wackage
finite dragon
Saxophone? This is a zone full of men thats weird bro
tired anvil
I hate similar words between languages so much sometimes
pseudo rivet
Wat no
wary cove
saxophone isn't manly?
still ridge
isn’t “the black stalker” a thing
pseudo rivet
Nope
still ridge
Like a legend
pseudo rivet
Nope
still ridge
What am I thinking of
tired anvil
Mf Edillon get your Chernobylite crap out of here
pseudo rivet
Not in Canon, at least
wild jasper
isn’t “the black stalker” a thing
@still ridge are there racist people in the zone
tired anvil
Disgusting
still ridge
not black as in skin color lol
wild jasper
not black as in skin color lol
@still ridge oh
finite dragon
Saxophone but in sakharovs bunker while watching him do what he does with snork feet and bloodsucker tentacles. Also there a stalker called black in COP he is a mercenary
tired anvil
What am I thinking of
Chernobylite
still ridge
No I’m not
tired anvil
Yea you are
still ridge
get that name out of here 
finite dragon
Discount stalker
still ridge
It’s a stalker thing, maybe it’s not “black”
pseudo rivet
wild jasper
What am I thinking of
Chernobylite
@tired anvil diet chernobyl
wary cove
Saxophone but in sakharovs bunker while watching him do what he does with snork feet and bloodsucker tentacles.
pseudo rivet
Wat
still ridge
lol
finite dragon
imagine ripping off a game so bad to the point you over-rip it
And end up making it worse. Wheeze
pseudo rivet
O
still ridge
CoP steam rating
wild jasper
chernobyl zero
pseudo rivet
still ridge
CoP steam rating
tired anvil
GSC should be so scared lmao
Image won't send, great
Aye
Almost the same amount of negative reviews on SoC, yet 16 times more positives
finite dragon
I just noticed that nimble is in all 3 stalker games lol
tired anvil
Hell yeah he is
pseudo rivet
Oh yeah
still ridge
Now check the cop rating
pseudo rivet
That seems like competition for sure
still ridge
Iirc it’s the highest rated one on steam
wild jasper
should we have vehicles in stalker 2
tired anvil
Nah
still ridge
No
wild jasper
why
karmic nymph
Bwb
tired anvil
There isn't any picture or model of it, but it got made at the end of CoP
Well in one of the endings
timber flame
MY GAME JUST CRASHED AND MY ONLY SAVES ARE FROM 10 DAYS AGO EVEN THOUGH I QUICKSAVED LIKE TWICE TODAY
pseudo rivet
Should make more hard saves
timber flame
WHAT THE FLYING HELL HAPPENED TO MY SAVESSSSS
timber flame
And why has my game suddenly started to crash so muchhhhh
tired anvil
pseudo rivet
pseudo rivet
Nice
unborn kayak
Such is life in the zone
wary cove
well it’s the most well balanced stalker game
Plus freeplay
barren jay
Will STALKER 2 be on Steam?
tired anvil
We don't know
lucid elm
Any of you have nomex assault suit?
runic rapids
For example, you could have secret stashes that are only breakable with acid rain, a den, or something else
You would have to wait for acid rain, and of course it would hurt you
pseudo rivet
Wack
runic rapids
Yeah
pseudo rivet
Y'all wack
runic rapids
But it would degrade your exo a bit
dire dagger
I mean
runic rapids
Unless you got the anti acid rain modification
runic rapids
Yeah
runic rapids
And NPCs and other thing would be melted
pseudo rivet
I can't imagine that
runic rapids
Kinda like an emmission
runic rapids
I mean, it would be more realistic
runic rapids
I suppose blowouts do?
pseudo rivet
Yes
wary cove
Acid rain
Atmosfear has acid rains, sort of
pseudo rivet
Sounds wack
runic rapids
Youre wack
wary cove
Other than being a bother during certain missions, not at all
pseudo rivet
Impossible
runic rapids
Possible
pseudo rivet
Literally impossible
runic rapids
Possible
pseudo rivet
Nope
runic rapids
Yeah
runic rapids
No youre wack
pseudo rivet
Not possible
runic rapids
Yes
pseudo rivet
Glad you agree
runic rapids
Possible
tired anvil
@pseudo rivet tldr?
thin pasture
dire dagger
I mean acid rain in the zone is probably on par with someone throwing you in a pond filled with sulfuric acid
thin pasture
pseudo rivet
Still wack
thin pasture
Deadly anomalies, dangerous mutants, anarchists and bandits... None of them will stop Duty on its triumphant march towards saving the planet!
tired anvil
All of those stop you
lucid elm
thin pasture
All of those stop you
@tired anvil 👉 👌
tired anvil
Welcome
pseudo rivet
Welcome
mystic stream
What do we all think of the anomoly mod?
tired anvil
I prefer vanilla
pseudo rivet
No comment
finite dragon
mod SUCKS i go to bed
mystic stream
ok, so not everyones favorite mod
tired anvil
Plenty of mixed opinions
mystic stream
im actually really enjoying anomoly.
pseudo rivet
Have you played to originals?
tired anvil
Nice
mystic stream
i tried all 3
pseudo rivet
Completed?
tired anvil
How'd trying go?
mystic stream
completed shadow of chernobyl, still completing Call of pripyat, and didnt touch clear sky after taking advice to go to the military corden right next to the swamp exit, and then going to the other exit on the other side of the map.
grand pendant
grand pendant
oh man, i'm the only edgy left
pseudo rivet
Yeah man
tired anvil
Nah Slyth
pseudo rivet
They all switched, so I too switched
tired anvil
You said Bob edgy so I'm w you
pseudo rivet
Glitched still edgy
grand pendant
pseudo rivet
Nice
mystic stream
i got into the games after i watched a couple of videos about it
pseudo rivet
I'd suggest you to do the route to the Military Outpost in CS
It's kinda a tradition
We call it the Holy Run
grand pendant
and you get cool points too
mystic stream
actually i remember it was nikolai's dead air video
tired anvil
What difficulty did you complete SoC on?
pseudo rivet
Oh, you definitely get cool points on this server
mystic stream
it was the first one i watched
pseudo rivet
Lmao
still ridge
@acoustic snow yo you got a fan
pseudo rivet
tired anvil
Lmao
pseudo rivet
still ridge
pinged on this server and it’s not an announcement
robust forge
Oh god, who pinged the simp one
tired anvil
Just like the sales announcements
pseudo rivet
Those are usually the best pings
grand pendant
he doesn't mind pings, he just tries to look tough but is in reality a kind soul 
tired anvil
I think my favourite ones were “Happy birthday Sergiy”
still ridge
Lol
robust forge
Niko straight up ignores pings mate
still ridge
Iirc like 200 people reacted with 🤡
tired anvil
No reason not to ignore them
mystic stream
I dont remember what the difficulty was, but it definetly wasnt master
tired anvil
Kek
pseudo rivet
Master also tradition
grand pendant
gotta replay all the games 
pseudo rivet
tired anvil
Well, the first time at least
still ridge
What are the reactions
tired anvil
0 clown ones
mystic stream
yeah on my time playing, i had it on medium and i was wondering why it took an 1 and a half tokarev mags to take out one bandit.
still ridge
A surprise to say the least
mystic stream
and then i learned that that was part of the difficulty
still ridge
No you gotta play on master
mystic stream
enemies get tougher the lower the difficulty
still ridge
It’s the most balanced
pseudo rivet
Nope
still ridge
Damage gets lower
tired anvil
The one with an ping kek
pseudo rivet
Gaj
mystic stream
oh
tired anvil
Hm?
pseudo rivet
Could you grab the difficulty
tired anvil
grand pendant
means enemies can take more damage in Master cause your damage is decreased
balathruin pretty chad
arctic kayak
Will you be able to join a group like in shadow
tired anvil
Will you be able to join a group like in shadow
You join groups in Clear Sky x)
pseudo rivet
finite dragon
I'm disappointed.
I got into the room behind the bar in SoC, but there is no loot.
gusty trench
Yep. What would you expect?
finite dragon
IDK
I was hoping for something more, considering I had to commit genocide just to get in.
runic rapids
Would be cool if you got loot that barkeep stores back there
finite dragon
Yeah
runic rapids
An exo or g36 or something else
I know in LA you go there to talk to a dutier and theres a pc there
Cant remmember what the dutier is called tho
thin pasture
I got into the room behind the bar in SoC, but there is no loot.
@finite dragon u should go behibd the scientific bunker located at yantar
finite dragon
The room behind barkeep was going to be used for content that got cut
but since that content was removed, its just an empty room now
hazy raven
I think that originally was player supposed to give Barkeep some documents there or have some important conversation with him there. 🤔
thin pasture
Does anyone know what happen if u cross the sidorovich store?
grand pendant
I think that originally was player supposed to give Barkeep some documents there or have some important conversation with him there. 🤔
think you were supposed to talk with Spotty on that room, but the dialogue and him got cut. Don't quote me on it though
timber flame
I have a quick SOC question, why is Streloks mission to kill, well himself?
tired anvil
Amnesia
pseudo rivet
It's explained in the ending of CS and SoC
timber flame
Alrighty
pseudo rivet
But basically, he became a Marked Agent sent out to kill Strelok. He was tasked to kill himself by accident
The reason why is because he came too close towards the CNPP
pseudo rivet
timber flame
Last question, how far are the events of CS and SoC apart
pseudo rivet
CS happened in 2011, SoC in 2012
gusty trench
CoP 2013
tired anvil
Crimson's right
unborn kayak
Nah, they’re two drastically different things
timber flame
Interesting
hazy raven
I know about the SCP stuff, even played SCP:Containment breach, which is nice survival horror game. But idk if that stuff belongs to Stalker. Probably not. 🤔
And if you mean monster/mutant design, we will see at release. And idk if that suits for FPS. As we will be allways looking for it and shooting it. 🤔
Though there already was a mutant with similar design - Goblin in original Stalker 2. Though instead of sight, it was waiting somewhere hidden near you until you go sleep and then would kidnap you.
SCP has it more creepy though (you kill all life in entire dimension by entering it through one cave SCP).
thin pasture
I have a quick SOC question, why is Streloks mission to kill, well himself?
@timber flame i think that there was like a error on something and for accident his mission is to kill himself
hazy raven
Like all protagonists in Stalker games, only that they instead return back in time when they die.
That sounds like BS for Stalker.
thin pasture
The concisions C ( i dont remember exactly the name) they have that type of protection in order to protect themself from everyone hiw dare to access
hazy raven
And from my experience with Winds of Time, bossess aren´t much good in Stalker. At least I think that that was the reason why GSC cut them.
Generally, I hate when some enemy in game endlessly respawns for no reason.
That isn´t boss though. Just normal enemy used at right place.
thin pasture
I have a question for you all?!!!!
thin pasture
How was your first emission?
hazy raven
Don´t remember. Some at COP. During my last playthrough, after starting new game, during my way to Skadovsk.
And game sent me to that radioactive anomaly instead.
thin pasture
And many other things
Thanks to the mods stalker became better
Adding 32 maps
I will love to see more stuff at rostok
Call of chernobyl was the first mod to include 32 maps right?
Yeah dead air, anomaly last day, etc give more content to stalker
gusty trench
Not really
thin pasture
Hello person
finite dragon
is it me or Grouse looks like Ghost's Brother from another mother lol
thin pasture
Maybe u
grand pendant
not quite to me
finite dragon
@grand pendant the abilities though
one can pick any lock the other can sneak into almost everywhere also ghost has that chad face ngl lol
grand pendant
thin pasture
They look diferrent
finite dragon
i meant they're similar in their abilities
gusty trench
nope
finite dragon
according to someone grouse is a former police officer, so he can basically pick any lock and sneak into a lot of places. according to SoC ghost can sneak into almost everywhere without getting noticed.
so you can see they have a little special common thing there :p
runic rapids
You aint wrong
unborn kayak
can pick lock
can sneak into the CNPP
Yeah same mad man
finite dragon
i didn't say the same. i said they have some stuff in common.
grand pendant
is it me or Grouse looks like Ghost's Brother from another mother lol
didn't seem like it
pseudo rivet
What a comparison lmao
finite dragon
it's 7 am so i'm being a mega brain
grand pendant
there was a meme comparing Krylov to other 10 stalkers, that was kek
unborn kayak
I’m just pulling yer leg bro, all in good fun
finite dragon
i'm starting to feel like an idiot because i don't get if people are joking or are speaking seriously nowadays
i guess i'm mentally disabled 
unborn kayak
We’re all a little mentally disabled here
native ibex
You know, I don't appreciate artefacts getting jettisoned out of the map my gravitational anomalies
grand pendant
so, grenades 
lyric forge
Technically yes, since if you want to count RPG as a grenade launcher and underbarrel and revolver style grenade launchers.
lol
cold flame
If Duty and Freedom would one day join forces, what strange faction would be the result
I don‘t think they would just become Stalkers again
grand pendant
they are like left and right, no way they'll join forces kek
pseudo rivet
Yeah
Not happening, honestly
I actually want to ask Rock about something like that
It's kinda just really poorly explained in SoC
grand pendant
cold flame
I know the chances are slim, but an extention to the cease fire at yanov
An alliance per say
grand pendant
chances are none whatsoever, only way i could see it is a temporary alliance to fight a major threat, but unless one of them change their ideology, it won't happen
also 'enemies get together to fight mutual enemy' is overused andgay
cold flame
Duty‘s military discipline for guards, patrolls and assault squads would be a good counterbalance to Freedoms research and scouting groups
grand pendant
cold flame
The two ideologies will always clash yeah
But over the course of all 3 games their main goal is the same but their stances do change
grand pendant
their main goal is the same? well, no not really
pseudo rivet
Yeah naw, not happening
pseudo rivet
Whilst Freedom and Free Stalkers voluntarily try to hold the Barrier, Duty is just spreading fake rumors about their heroic deeds at the Barrier
They aren't even there, nor have they ever been there
Sounds scummy to me
grand pendant
burnt moss
pseudo rivet
But yeah, CS dialogue shared, photo was taken in the Garbage, Freedomer using Bandit dialogue, meme
stable pasture
Hmmmmm
Maybe freedom do be kinda epic
grand pendant
or everybody smokin weed bc of Ganjah
stable pasture
perhaps I was wrong to trust duty
Maybe i should hang out with freedom some more
grand pendant
everybody be trustin' 'dem duty boys but they ain't seeing the deeper picture
pseudo rivet
grand pendant
didn't some duty officer join Freedom or am i misremembering?
grand pendant
oh yeah lol, forgot that part
silk viper
So, for some reason my hud disappeared even though I have HUD: Minimap selected in game options
lyric forge
Might want to check settings for that.
silk viper
Is there a keybind that hides it or seomthing?
silk viper
Its Anomaly
native ibex
What
There's no minimap, and your stamina only shows up at the bottom left if any of it is missing @silk viper
silk viper
Nothing on my UI at all
pseudo rivet
Sounds like it's turned off in the settings by accident
silk viper
Where would I find that?
silk viper
Ahhhhhhh finally found it, thanks! Not sure why it was unchecked
pseudo rivet
wary cove
I don‘t think they would just become Stalkers again
Well in one of CoP endings it's implied some members left their respective factions
A fragile balance was reached between Freedom and Duty squads at Yanov Station. Tired of the endless struggle, fighters of both factions started leaving their squads and joining the free stalkers
That's Yanov of course, not idea if they'll ever do that as a whole
livid spindle
lukash and voronin are kinda another story
thin pasture
There is a food chat?
dim fog
wary cove
#💬┃en_offtop perhaps?
nimble saddle
hello i have a question,
i was wondering if stalker 2 will remove the mirrored guns texture that is in all 3 games?
nimble saddle
ikr
marble jasper
What is the best weapon? (stalker call of pripyat)
marble jasper
FT-200M is good?
marble jasper
oh
tired anvil
marble jasper
thanks
pseudo rivet
PMm Gang
tired anvil
PMm Gang
still ridge
y’all ain’t ready for this
wild jasper
what new weapons should be in stalker 2
wild jasper
i don't think we need too much fancy western stuff
still ridge
Skorpion isn’t western
wild jasper
ok
pseudo rivet
As long as we have equal numbers of Eastern and Western weapons, I'm fine
still ridge
vz.61
wild jasper
As long as we have equal numbers of Eastern and Western weapons, I'm fine
@pseudo rivet yeah
still ridge
people really be out here asking for the ptrs and ptrd
wild jasper
another idea, i think scopes should have a more realistic zoom, and shouldn't change any of your perriferal vision
still ridge
You mean picture in picture
wild jasper
in games, scopes actually magnify your entire field of view. i don't want this.
still ridge
that absolutely butchers performance
wild jasper
oh
still ridge
Picture in Picture, that is
pseudo rivet
Meh
still ridge
If it was optional I wouldn’t complain
pseudo rivet
Personally? I'm not really that fond of picture in picture
wild jasper
should we have scope glint (both for others and you)
pseudo rivet
Something like Borderlands 2 did would be epic, though
pseudo rivet
Picture in picture for the overworld, but scopes would be basically like STALKER
wild jasper
Picture in picture for the overworld, but scopes would be basically like STALKER
@pseudo rivet what do you mean by 'picture in picture'
pseudo rivet
Well, it's basically what it says
still ridge
pseudo rivet
It's a screen on the scope
still ridge
Magnification only applies to the scope, everything outside retains the normal level of zoom
pseudo rivet
Basically that
still ridge
it kills performance though
wild jasper
Magnification only applies to the scope, everything outside retains the normal level of zoom
@still ridge that could be cool
it kills performance though
@still ridge maybe have it as an option in settings
still ridge
Gunslinger mod does that
pseudo rivet
Oh yeah, this is how Borderlands 2 did it. When zooming in, it would be just like STALKER's scopes, though
Everywhere your crosshair pointed at, you'd see the same in the scope
pseudo rivet
Basically
still ridge
Disgusting
wild jasper
i still think picture in picture should be an option, maybe off by default
still ridge
I wouldn’t mind if it was like metro exodus
wild jasper
what does metro exodus do
still ridge
Everything outside the scope is blurred
pseudo rivet
Nice
still ridge
but it’s still the same level of magnification
pseudo rivet
Still, texture overlay kinda neat, but it honestly all depends on the scope
pseudo rivet
No, but STALKER's scopes are
wild jasper
i think sniper scopes should do the blur thing, but smaller ones can be picture in picture
still ridge
PiP is good when it’s implemented correctly
wild jasper
it could be good but whatever
still ridge
it’s controversial to say the least
It can absolutely ruin performance even if you have a top of the line PC
wild jasper
how common should things like meds and ammo be
still ridge
They’ve always been common
It’s only in mods that they give them artificial scarcity
pseudo rivet
Uncommon to the point you'll be forced to use your pistol
wild jasper
i think that it should be somewhat rare, but not too much. immersion in some cases comes from having systems in the game to manage, so there should be more of that, but not too much.
pseudo rivet
Problem is, balancing that out for good gameplay is really hard
still ridge
I mean if you kill a bandit with an AK, they should have like 60 rounds total
wild jasper
yeah
pseudo rivet
Even then, just look at CoP
still ridge
30 in the mag, 30 in inventory
tired anvil
I'd rather look at CS
pseudo rivet
They gave you less, but you got ammo for days
wild jasper
30 in the mag, 30 in inventory
@still ridge 60 in inventory
still ridge
That’s not how it is in CoP
pseudo rivet
It B
wild jasper
i know
still ridge
In CoP on master it’s like 60 total
pseudo rivet
Yeah
30 in mag, 30 in Inventory, maybe a bit less
Even if it's less, getting ammo in CoP is not an issue at all
still ridge
It should be scarce to the point where you might run out and have to use your pistol, but not uncommon to the point where you have to search for while to get a few mags worth
wild jasper
you should have more, but maybe it works like tarkov where mags and ammo are two different things
still ridge
Agree with crimson
pseudo rivet
I mean, it's impossible to balance it out whilst also making it look realistic with NPCs
That's just impossible
wild jasper
No I don’t want to fill mags with ammo
@still ridge maybe make doing so faster than tarkov
pseudo rivet
Wack
still ridge
stalker shouldn’t be close to tarkov at all
wild jasper
stalker shouldn’t be close to tarkov at all
@still ridge oh
pseudo rivet
wild jasper
i just think that stalker 2 should capture the feeling of being in a survival game
still ridge
nooo, really
still ridge
I’m being sarcastic
wild jasper
ok
pseudo rivet
I don't want to have boring cooking mechanics, nor things like making ammo and crap
still ridge
stalker has always had survival aspects
pseudo rivet
That's just ridiculous
still ridge
It just shouldn’t be like what crimson said
wild jasper
I don't want to have boring cooking mechanics, nor things like making ammo and crap
@pseudo rivet not talking about crafting, just how resource management should be like
pseudo rivet
That's already STALKER, so then we're fine
still ridge
^
wild jasper
ok
still ridge
@pseudo rivet no, I will eat my pseudogiant steak and you cannot stop me
cooked on the finest burner anomaly
pseudo rivet
wild jasper
i think some stuff from metro exodus would be cool, but not a lot
pseudo rivet
still ridge
You don’t want to eat the exquisite tushkano kabobs? @pseudo rivet
still ridge
wild jasper
how should food work in stalker 2
still ridge
like it does in CoP
wild jasper
how does it work in CoP
still ridge
You get hungry
wild jasper
do you die if you don't eat
still ridge
Eventually
wild jasper
ok
still ridge
There’s three levels of hunger
Maybe 4
When hunger is red, you lose health
But you’ll find food on corpses before it ever gets to that point
I’ve never starved to death, that’s just silly
pseudo rivet
||Also, the more hungry you are, the more energy you lose. This means you can sprint less often||
wild jasper
seems cool
still ridge
Idk about thirst
pseudo rivet
Not in the game
wild jasper
maybe the same system for thirst
still ridge
I mean in S2
Hunger is gonna be a mechanic
But I’m not sure if thirst will be
imo, it doesn’t make sense to have one without the other
wild jasper
i think thirst should have the same system as hunger
still ridge
Gameplay wise it’s fine, since you don’t lose hunger and thirst at a rapid rate whatsoever
If you sleep, you wake up hungry
wild jasper
seems good
wild jasper
yeah
still ridge
fill canteens up at camps perhaps
wild jasper
should there be water/food quality levels in s2
finite dragon
contaminated water?
still ridge
no absolutely not
wild jasper
rotten food?
pseudo rivet
Meh
still ridge
that’s bad gameplay
pseudo rivet
I mean, take a look at F76
still ridge
horrible gameplay in fact
wild jasper
irradiated water or food?
wild jasper
it should be less punishing
pseudo rivet
But yeah, there is also irradiated water and food in Fallout
still ridge
No there shouldn’t be rotten food/contaminated water
wild jasper
most food will be good quality
finite dragon
food shall live forever
||unless eaten by someone?||
pseudo rivet
still ridge
If there’s a hunger and thirst system, there shouldn’t be a preservation mechanic
wild jasper
If there’s a hunger and thirst system, there shouldn’t be a preservation mechanic
@still ridge maybe some type of preservation, but it shouldn't be that much of a concern
pseudo rivet
Still though
still ridge
no
pseudo rivet
Personally?
finite dragon
what bout the 5 second rule tho
still ridge
I don’t want food going bad if it’s already in my inventory
pseudo rivet
Tourist's Delight Gang
still ridge
Canned food would be meta
wild jasper
I don’t want food going bad if it’s already in my inventory
@still ridge no i'm talking about food you find in the world
finite dragon
wait tourist delight can't get bad right?
still ridge
well you usually don’t find food
finite dragon
i mean, its literally canned food what could possibly go wrong
wild jasper
you buy it or find it on corpses
@still ridge when you find it on corpses it has different quality
still ridge
No that shouldn’t be a thing
pseudo rivet
Sounds bad
wild jasper
No that shouldn’t be a thing
@still ridge why
pseudo rivet
Like a Misery concept or something
still ridge
What if you kill a bandit and immediately search his body
pseudo rivet
Besides, how would it get bad once you shot someone?
still ridge
His food shouldn’t be bad just because I killed him
wild jasper
His food shouldn’t be bad just because I killed him
@still ridge it may not be as good as if you were to buy it, but it will still be very good.
still ridge
Food quality shouldn’t be a thing
pseudo rivet
Contradicts your previous statement, honestly
still ridge
It makes for bad gameplay and an unenjoyable experience
finite dragon
imagine being low on health and got no medkits/bandages or such in middle of a fight and you got only food
wild jasper
good point, but it might work. maybe it's a thing on higher difficulties
wild jasper
fine
still ridge
agree with crimson
pseudo rivet
Weapon or armor grades also bad
still ridge
Stalker has never been a hardcore survival simulator
pseudo rivet
Only grades I'd like would be upgrades
wild jasper
Weapon or armor grades also bad
@pseudo rivet i agree with that
pseudo rivet
still ridge
man
small dust
How many mods do you think they will have drawn from to use as mechanics for 2?
still ridge
@pseudo rivet you’re a downgrade
wild jasper
just different body armors, no levels
still ridge
None hopefully
finite dragon
you are...stalker pepe sad?
wild jasper
levels suck
still ridge
Stalker 2 should have its own unique features not present in mods
pseudo rivet
Just take SoC, CS and CoP and expand on that
wild jasper
Stalker 2 should have its own unique features not present in mods
@still ridge yee
still ridge
^
pseudo rivet
That's honestly as easy as I can say it
wild jasper
Just take SoC, CS and CoP and expand on that
@pseudo rivet ye
idk i'm just a fan of realistic stuff
small dust
@still ridge I just meant the concepts from them (like breaking down weapons for parts, camping, food, sleep etc) not the mods themselved hacked in.
finite dragon
breaking weapons for parts sounds good O_o
pseudo rivet
Yikes no
wild jasper
i realize that hyper-realistic mechanics would be damaging to the game
finite dragon
if crimson say no i say no to me too
pseudo rivet
Just take them weapons and armor to a mechanic
They've got the parts, the equipment and a workbench to work with
wild jasper
do you think shipments from outside the zone should be able to be intercepted?
pseudo rivet
Calibrating and repairing would be their schtick
do you think shipments from outside the zone should be able to be intercepted?
Honestly pretty hard, since it all goes to Sidorovich
And if you're in trouble with him, you'll get some hired guns at you
small dust
Won't they kill Sid for 2? His actor is dead.
wild jasper
ok
still ridge
Take the concept from the original S2
pseudo rivet
Oh boy
wild jasper
if they do kill sid idk what to do
still ridge
Anomaly materializes in sid’s bunker
pseudo rivet
small dust
Marked one, what the helboom
finite dragon
lol
small dust
canon
pseudo rivet
Anomaly materializes in sid’s bunker
So, he'd get a tho- I mean chick?
wild jasper
so where do the shipments go if sid dies
still ridge
Beard is the most likely candidate
pseudo rivet
Honestly though? They need him and I doubt they'll kill him
small dust
How do you think Forest got so good at repair?
finite dragon
i wonder if they changed stuff inside the houses in the rookie village
still ridge
Mechanic before the disaster
pseudo rivet
Beard is the most likely candidate
Nah, he already has his own bar at Zaton and it's as popular as the 100 Rads Bar, doubt he'll take over
small dust
Nimble? What's he up to?
pseudo rivet
How do you think Forest got so good at repair?
Probably just because there are no other mechanics out there, so they needed a mechanic so the game wouldn't be too hard
Nimble? What's he up to?
Smuggling weapons and armor
still ridge
nimble is wholesome
small dust
Is he a good candidate for shipments?
pseudo rivet
He already does them
still ridge
He could take over sid’s business
small dust
but to take Sid's place
pseudo rivet
People say he just hides everything on him without anyone even noticing it
Pretty weird
still ridge
Surprised nimble is a loner
pseudo rivet
Free Stalker*
still ridge
same thing
pseudo rivet
Not really
small dust
Please elucidate
finite dragon
swamp
pseudo rivet
So, basically, you've got all kinds of Stalkers. Most Stalkers you'll see are Free Stalkers. They usually team up with other Free Stalkers to explore the Zone. Within this "faction", you have several smaller groups. These are the following:
Loners: Explore the Zone on their own
Neutrals: Fights against injustice in the Zone and clashes with the Bandits (and Military)
Diggers: Seek for parts and relics from the CNPP in the garbage piles at the Garbage.
Shamans: They are at peace with the Zone
There's also Artifact Hunters and Mutant Hunters, but those should be obvious
small dust
@pseudo rivet And this was sort of defined when you talk to people or observing their behavior?
pseudo rivet
Basically
small dust
Diggers was cut content, right?
small dust
Hmm... I'm trying to remember where I would have encountered them.
Would the loners in the car park count as diggers?
small dust
Not car park, hmm. the mission to fight bandits at the garbage south of the rail garage
small dust
ah
pseudo rivet
He's "the Commander of a Neutral party"
So, he's a Neutral
He fights and hunts Bandits, just like the Neutrals in CS did
small dust
Where do we encounter diggers?