Or however is the soft part of the roof of the mouth named
#⭐┃nospoilers_general
robust forge
twilit kindle
Oh is it getting rashy?
robust forge
Pretty much
chrome glade
bruh imagine saying
помогите мне
rare rain
boreal star
What should i bring to the x16 lab?
finite dragon
An 5.56 weapon and a VSS will do fine. I thought the shotgun will work in enclosed area like X16 but turn out shotgun in SoC is crap.
And a lot of anti-rad and medkits too.
boreal star
Should i bring that ecologist suit i was given or my normal suit?
finite dragon
It's up to you. Just don't mess around with the fire and the irradiated area for too long and you'll be fine, there're some nice loot in the lab too.
boreal star
I had a tunder that could kill anyone with 4-5 shots now brought a tr 301 and i wasted 400 ammo tyring to get in
Whats so special about that 5.56 ammo
finite dragon
Damn I forgot about tha. Didn't get to use much of Tunder before X16. The 9x39 ammo is rare before that and I didn't get that 5.45 Tunder beforehand. 5.56 is all-around and common for me, besides these nato weapon looks flashier and guns like TRs301 is modular too.
chrome glade
Have x-16 as a quest too, stocked up on meds and a 5.56 but where would I find a vss?
torn tinsel
which big mod for stalker is the best?
lyric urchin
The one you have with you
finite dragon
For shadow of chernobyl, i suggest using the newbie pack which is absolute nature/structures, photorealistic zone, ZRP, and OWR 3
and for call of pripyat, i suggest using atmosfear 3, absolute nature, absolute structures, and stcop 3.2 (installed in that order)
finite dragon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qg4MSwLCJc here's cop before and after
i dont have anything showing the newbiepack for soc though sorry
but it doesnt change the atmosphere or anuthing
just makes it prettier
@torn tinsel check this out
torn tinsel
i'll check that later
finite dragon
@chrome glade There's a free VSS in one of the barracks in Freedom base if I recall right, also there's about 100 rounds of AP ammo for it on the roof above too.
There's bunch of Duty corpse near a fireplace everytime I back to army warehouse. Heard it was a bug that spawn npc into the fire or something. It's nice too, net myself some good late-gears early and stable source of income, Duty maybe a jerk but they sure got some styles.
shrewd dagger
There's a better option than the newbie pack for SoC actually
that is, a better newbie pack, except it's not bundled together yet
OGSR engine x64 from github + Absolute Structures + Absolute Nature 4 + Photorealistic Zone 2 + OWR 3 installed in that order
when I'm done with S.T.A.L.K. H.E.R. Predator, I'll strip the Predator stuff from it and make a newbie pack out of it which will hopefully just be OGSR engine + those graphics mods + New Arsenal 6 guns
fathom cedar
No ZRP? Eh.
Somebody wants to get a lot of Pripyat crashes.
As well as Mole and Nimble having Stockholm syndrome and returning to the places where they were held.
finite dragon
OGSR Engine fixes everything that ZRP fixes @fathom cedar
fathom cedar
Just by engine changes, or is ZRP incorporated?
Because you can’t fix a typo in a script by engine.
finite dragon
Includes a gamedata folder that fixes the stuff
finite dragon
Hello
pseudo rivet
You just did, though
finite dragon
frick u
pseudo rivet
That is highly inappropriate
Please refrain from using such indecent words on our server
tribal jolt
Do not swear on this orthodox mine craft server
finite dragon
Hi brus
robust forge
Hi
finite dragon
How are you mate
robust forge
A bit sick
mental monolith
I want to be rich
robust forge
Ok
finite dragon
Noice
robust forge
Let me get a lifetime supply of bolts and drop it on you really quick
finite dragon
I hope you get better soon @robust forge
lyric forge
Wow huge difference in difficulty from SoC to CS
pseudo rivet
Yup
lyric forge
One moment I can handle about 6-7 hits from a mutant, the next in CS I get 3 tapped.
finite dragon
When you wear an exo but died from a bandit's nade....
lyric forge
And I got jumped so that don't help
pseudo rivet
Early game is pretty hard, yeah
lyric forge
But the knife DMG in CS is pretty good, 1 taps mutants but Is a risk since they come in groups.
lyric forge
Yeah and the most rarest in COC
I didn't know when I started coc that you only get one knife, so I sold mines for an AK and have been looking for a knife ever since/
Sold a lot of stuff at the beginning, sadly my knife was never to be found.
robust forge
F
finite dragon
Meanwhile the knife in SoC can evet one hit a APC
pseudo rivet
Everything's better than the CoP Knife
finite dragon
Since the CoP doesn't have loot in crates, the knife is even more useless
pseudo rivet
Just a few of them do
It's because of the change of models
Some kind of error, I don't know
They look smaller
Two clear indicators are the oxygen tanks on stalkers and the "Duty" patch on the back of the PSZ-9d Duty Suit
finite dragon
The guns in CoP is closer to the face than CS tho
finite dragon
Hello stalkers
pseudo rivet
Heya
finite dragon
How are you mate
finite dragon
Me too lol
pseudo rivet
Heh
mystic ridge
there is a fov switcher for CoP
shrewd dagger
Du ma May mi trang bu cac tao!
finite dragon
STCOP 3.2 has a built in fov change command
all the more reason to use it 
Jester, I'm a Vietnamese and I know every word you said there mate
robust forge
Oof
shrewd dagger
finite dragon
lyric forge
Yeah speaking of knifes, the hitbox seems so weird with every stalker.
But you can 1 tap anyone(even exos in SoC on master iirc) with the right click to the head.
pretty op.
But I did that at Duty HQ and got gunned down.
Atleast their leader died tho
silk charm
is the narodnaya solyanka mod worth to play it?
finite dragon
Do you like soup mods?
silk charm
I have no idea what that is
lyric forge
how do you even get past the first part on taking the tower from the bandits before the emission if all my bullets just float into oblivion
they dont even esixt
exist*
shrewd dagger
are you using Sky Reclamation Project?
@silk charm If you're gonna play Narodnaya Solyanka, play the 2016 version on ModDB
They're just wild mods, purposely whacky and they revolve around rather asinine fetch quests and quantity over quality
lyric forge
no im vanilla, anytime i ask, just remember im vanilla, i got a long way till mods
anyways
starting pistol, does it shoot bb's?
i cant remember seeing it hit or hurt anyone
serious question btw
finite dragon
Clear Sky might as well be unplayable without sky reclaimation project
lyric forge
yeah...
i legit mag dumped my pistolfrom like 45 ft away and not one even tapped the enemy.
this feels worst than SoC
finite dragon
download and install sky reclaimation project
Use the "alternative ballistics" optional feature as well
lyric forge
gotcha
yeah i was just wondering if my bullets even exist anymore after 3 ft
and sawed off's are horrendous, even point blank its a 3 tap for me
i have yet to find out about the other guns, seems enemies can just kill me so quick with 100% aim.
And the AI intelligence feels at a higher level than SoC, in SoC, enemies never snapped so quick and hard to me like CS, not even close.
I had a guy I snuck up on just 180 2 tap me with a makarov.
shrewd dagger
playing without SRP is nonsensical
stiff walrus
what does s.t.a.l.k.e.r stand for anyway?
late bramble
it doesnt really have a meaning it was originally made to avoid copyright
but one of the books gave it a meaning so thats what people just assume is canon
Scavengers, Trespassers, Adventurers, Loners, Killers, Explorers, Robbers
but theres no actual canon evidence of this and also you literally only see c-con agents with the mark
so as far as anyone knows it has no meaning and we'll never know the true meaning
stiff walrus
oh ok
lyric forge
Ask them why my bullets won’t hit anything in CS 
late bramble
the devs wouldnt know none of them have been around for SoC
CS and CoP were B team these guys are like C team
pseudo rivet
True
shrewd dagger
I think you're forgetting all the invincibility frames NPCs get where they can't be damaged, forgetting that bullets disappear after short distances and guns are incredibly inaccurate at very close range, and forgetting that headshots are not very powerful in Clear Sky
feral verge
Don't forget that the steam store page for SoC also uses the same explanation for the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. acronym
finite dragon
stalker stands for st eez nuts
lyric forge
Man with all the inaccuracy in CS, I mine as well practice speed running to just finish the game LOL
shrewd dagger
there are transition points in the swamps that can take you as far as Limansk
lyric forge
Yeah but with not being equipped properly, ill just die alot
late bramble
theres a transition in the swamps that takes you to the last few maps
its an oopsie woopsie left in by a dev
speedrunners use it
finite dragon
where is the transition?
shrewd dagger
on youtube
fringe arch
a
shrewd dagger
b
finite dragon
n
pseudo rivet
o
shrewd dagger
x
late bramble
n
pseudo rivet
a
finite dragon
t
robust forge
h
pseudo rivet
Yeah
lyric forge
And it shoots through 2 feet thick trees
pseudo rivet
Heh
lyric forge
I’m fuggin done
pseudo rivet
Understandable
There's a trick, though
There's an alternative route
Or you can keep on sprinting through it until you manage to outrun them
lyric forge
What’s the alt route
pseudo rivet
You'll have to go back to the Great Swamps for the alternative route.
The trick for the Checkpoint MG is to sprint behind the rock, wait for them to stop firing. Jump to the rock to the left. Wait. Then to sprint just past the fence.
Zigzagging will slow you down and make you easier to target
lyric forge
Whose that
lyric forge
Why kill him
pseudo rivet
No need to kill him
lyric forge
Okay
robust forge
But you always can
robust forge
Nobody can replace Vova
pseudo rivet
So disrespectful, to be honest
robust forge
Nobody will shoot as heroically
robust forge
Our hero
lyric forge
Anyways he doesn’t stop shooting, iirc when I first played, it was on rookie and I just did the dash
pseudo rivet
That's weird
lyric forge
He’s just laser beeming me cross map
lyric forge
Yeah and when I run he shoots again
pseudo rivet
You need to sprint to that rock as fast as you can
Then there's another rock to your left
Jump over there
lyric forge
I got to the rock at the bottom, but the fallen tree is the hardest
pseudo rivet
Then there's a tree you'll have to crouch under
When done, sprint alongside the fence and it should be save game
pseudo rivet
Hmm
lyric forge
It’s too long and he’s just too accurate
Holy FUGG he just 1 tapped me to the fuggin head
pseudo rivet
Through rocks is impossible
The trick is indeed that one tree
Pass that and you should be fine
It's definitely a challenge
But then again
It's Stalker
lyric forge
I know
I save games at rock
My trick WAS to sprint jump than crouch to safety, but by that time as soon as I land I take an L
lyric forge
I was under the tree
And got pass the broken tree
And he shoots all the way through that thick of wood
pseudo rivet
Then you have to go left
lyric forge
I did
Crouch under tree
I got past, he gunned me down
Fml
Yeah he’s just shooting through everything at the point
It’s look the wood isn’t even there
pseudo rivet
It should be able to shoot through trees
Not rocks
Lol, the top result of LongPlays just activates God Mode for the whole game
lyric forge
Wym long plays
pseudo rivet
Clear Sky Playthrough
Top result just God Modes through the whole game
I were looking at some examples of how everyone passed it
One guy did it a night. Seems like they didn't see him
He did double crouch, though
As soon as he sprinted, Vova Vist resumed his fire
lyric forge
I legit just jumped on the tree and ran fast af
pseudo rivet
That's also a way
lyric forge
OOGA OOGA
lyric forge
I just waited till he stopped shooting, jumped on broken tree, and took a straight left to get more cover and ran
Holy hell that was about 20 deaths
Had to double quicksave just to make sure
pseudo rivet
Yeah
It's a tricky one
But it'll get easier from here
And you can always come back for some revenge later
I just keep rewatching that video
It's so easy
Maybe it's just his luck
I don't know
But I never found that passage
lyric forge
So after looking at the map and recognizing cordon, all CS is is like an addition of a couple new areas and new quest? It looks the same as SoC
Df
And factions that fight
But other than that it’s SoC v2?
finite dragon
cs might as well be broken SoC DLC really
and its not soc v2
because that would require it to be as good as soc
lyric forge
True
pseudo rivet
What's new is an Anomaly Field to the North of Rookie Village and of course the Stalker Camp being new and all
Not sure if the tree to the left of the Checkpoint existed in SoC
lyric forge
Yeah but it’s like they took SoC and slapped a couple more areas on it with different quest and new factions. It has the SAME play areas as SoC
pseudo rivet
But it's a way to get into it and attack them from behind
Well, it's the Cordon
It would be weird if it didn't look like it
lyric forge
I suppose, they could’ve switched it up and explored more of Pripyat, like that one part with the decommissioned Russian antennas, can’t remember the name, but more areas besides re adding old ones.
pseudo rivet
Limansk
It's main purpose is for you to pass through
A time-filler, a challenge
From there, you travel to the Deserted Hospital
The entrance looks great
Then, looked from the information given to us, you make your way to the Pripyat Underground
finite dragon
yea, but the entire limansk hospital and CNPP are just a really badly made shooting gallery
pseudo rivet
Not sure how they did it or if it's even the same underground we know from CoP
finite dragon
with a BOSS HELICOPTER
pseudo rivet
Yep
It's definitely rushed
But so are most of them
Most of them meaning all three of them
But it's the most noticeable in CS
lyric forge
Yeah the heli was kinda OP when you LAREADY have to deal with exos with As Val’s and high end 5.56 cal guns
I can’t even imagine getting to tht and it being easy to beat again
Haven’t played this game in like 5 or so years
lyric forge
Iirc the hospital is just compiled of a lot of CQC and some long halls, followed by a clutter of grouped up enemies, yes?
iirc*
pseudo rivet
Pretty much
autumn shale
Clear Sky is an odd game
imo
it starts out boringly, gets better when you finally get past that MG in cordon but then just goes downhill towards the end
silk charm
because dooty is pooty
freedom are actually nice guys, they're high on weed but at least they're welcoming to new stalkers
duty to new stalkers = get on my level or get out of here, stalker
lyric forge
true stalkers dont need no help from ANY factions, they can handle it all by themselves.
shrewd dagger
freedom are actually nice guys
Well just remember in SoC, Freedom threatens to cannibalize you, they tell you about how they marched a guy naked onto a minefield, they stop you to shake you down when you enter the Army Warehouses for the first time, and in alpha/beta builds of SoC Wolfhound's gang is a Freedom gang
lyric forge
I thinked I fugged up
finite dragon
freedom also has you kill innocent stalkers for killing a bloodsucker
lyric forge
I saved the game with me bleeding out, with no band aids, and as starting money i only get 200, and londers are selling them for 450 when their actual value is 200
and med kits dont stop bleeding
wtf do i do
finite dragon
the CLEAR SKY EXPERIENCE
shrewd dagger
pseudo rivet
Yep
The Clear Sky Experience
Both Duty and Freedom have it's flaws
That's the point
pseudo rivet
Nah, not really
lyric forge
like legit what do i do???
i just past big bridge where loners control, and some military person took a shot at me and i saved, now i have NO MONEY to buy a bandaid since they sell them for 450.
pls help me
pseudo rivet
Hmm
finite dragon
quit the game and play Call of Pripyat with atmosfear and stcop 3.2
pseudo rivet
Your only hope is to kill a Loner or sell enough to get a Bandage
lyric forge
i cant sell enough
my canned food only worth 40, MY BREAD IS WORTH 20, and nothing else, THEY WONT BUY AMMO
finite dragon
kill a loner for his bandages
shrewd dagger
congratulationsyouplayedyourself.gif
finite dragon
or do as i said before
quit the game and play Call of Pripyat with atmosfear and stcop 3.2
lyric forge
i dont wanna be the bad guy
shrewd dagger
join renegades
lyric forge
but ill still be bleeding out at an alarming rate
pseudo rivet
Trading with NPCs isn't really a good strat
shrewd dagger
you might just need a spawn menu
pseudo rivet
But seen the situation
Try to use your food to restore your health
Sprint to the nearest trader and get Bandages
pseudo rivet
Go to the village north and talk with their trader
lyric forge
Ah yes, for only 300 RU i got a bandage, saved 150 from that bum
I am well alive till the next bullet hits me anywhere... then im dead :)
pseudo rivet
True
lyric forge
btw
@pseudo rivet that purple whatever color of your name hurts my eyes, its like it glows purple or somewhat
shrewd dagger
it's radioactive
pseudo rivet
Yeah, I know
Purple usually has that
Too bad most servers use purple roles like these as a high role
I mean, it looks neat
But also mess with your eyes somewhat
shrewd dagger
purple = royalty
pseudo rivet
Yep
lyric forge
man....
if it wasnt for that fancy flip that my guy did when I switched to my pistol, i probs could've killed that guy, instead he does this dumb stuff.
"hEhE lOk aT mE i'M a CoWbOy PeW pEw"
lyric forge
lol
pseudo rivet
lyric forge
why dont people like mercs, what did we do
pseudo rivet
Well
First of all
Attacking the player at most occasions
Secondly
Hardasses in-game
Very edgy
lyric forge
As for my experience, the only time I was attacked by mercs were when I got too close to them at warehouses in the corner of that area.(SoC wise)
As far as coming across them, I'm not usually bothered by them, bandits and even military are my biggest threat.
pseudo rivet
Wild Territory
Army Warehouses
Dark Valley
Pripyat
Even Cordon
They're hostile
lyric forge
Havent gotten to darki valley yet, but which pripyat? the one from Soc/CS or CoP? Because I only encounter monolith and zombies there
As for army warehouses, thats where I stated I come across and get shot at by them, though they never left to go hunt me down at there, kinda territorial those ones seemed to be for me.
Ah yes Wild territory, they did threaten to kill ecologist, so I'll give ya that one.
And Cordon I havent ran across them on there, Mutants, military, and bandits only roam there.
Dark* whoops
lyric forge
Oh really? guess they didnt completely C&P SoC than
but anyways I just don't run across them as often as military or bandits.
pseudo rivet
True
It also depends on what kind of Merc, really
You have different kinds
I mean, after all, you're playing as a Mercenary in Clear Sky
Scar definitely isn't like the others
lyric forge
True.
Though also iirc
In CoP, they do control that one station where you have to recover that laptop?
pseudo rivet
Yeah
lyric forge
Yeah that one
Yeah I took a shot at one of them
They said in quote "HEY OVER THERE, KILL THAT RETARD"
pretty mean tbh
pseudo rivet
With a very goofy voice, yeah
I mean, it's logical
You did shoot at them
Besides, they warn you to not come near them
lyric forge
B-b-b-but... I'm not a retard.....
pseudo rivet
lyric forge
You could've called me by my alias, you know, a stalker like everyone else.
pseudo rivet
It's not like they could know
lyric forge
:(
I think that was the biggest insult I got in the series, getting called that.
Even the people that hate my guts so dearly in CoP never called me something so mean
lyric forge
wym?
finite dragon
WUUUURMMM fooood
pseudo rivet
The ammo for it is pretty rare, costly and heavy
lyric forge
yeah i sold them incase i lun row on medical supplies
chrome glade
on the x16 lab mission and passing back through the wild territory to get to yantar, just got the cutscene to play again where the helicopter crashes but this time theres no voiceline and theres just dead ecologists?
finite dragon
x-ray magic
lyric forge
just entered garbage and got my money jacked from bandits
anyways
how do i get my money back
lyric forge
well
I killed them all, is that going to negativeloy impoact me?
negatively impact*
pseudo rivet
Only against Bandits
blissful cliff
I think, every bandit will become hostile to you
Happened to me
So I just warped to their base, because I didn't want to lose 12k on nothing
left horizon
scar, marked one or major degtaryev?
finite dragon
i was about to launch call of pripyat again after like a few month, then i got tagged by that announcement
shrewd dagger
The only way to play it is with STCoP 3.2
rare otter
Happy 10 years stalker
wheat umbra
Lol my birthday is today as well
robust forge
nice
wheat umbra
I'm destined to be a stalker
robust forge
happy bday to you too
finite dragon
with 3.2 the weapons are really in your face which imo is pretty bad
though the rest of what it does is amazing
hud_fov .45
thank me later
fathom cedar
Anyone interested in helping me with CS TCRF article? There's simply so much to cover I won't do it alone.
What I've already done: https://tcrf.net/S.T.A.L.K.E.R.:_Clear_Sky
round reef
10 years of Call of Pripyat!
lyric forge
Yeah I’m just gonna buy as much med packs and medical equipment as possible than
I’m not losing that much and be broke again struggling to buy a bandage
amber badger
lyric forge
so private traders, for ONE bandage and ONE vodka......... 675 RU.
Since when did everything get SO expensive?
In SoC for those two its like 250 or so. maybe a lot less.
Now I only have 3 RU for those scum bandits to take from me
tribal jolt
And when you sell it back they're like 2 RU a piece
lyric forge
yeah med kits are valued at 300 for me, but when i want to sell, its 60.
also @tribal jolt , for selling bread back, I get 4, still crappy tbh.
Hope in S2 they implement a more fair trading system than this one.
smoky pelican
holy frick its amazing how many people still play pripyat
like i was just playing it during class a few days ago lmao
tribal jolt
Honestly the incredibly terrible trade system added to the feeling of being unable to do anything
Just telling you before a mod goes off on you
lyric forge
WHAT
A vintar BC is worth 12000(best condition)
AND ALL THE BANDITS ARE OFFERING ME ARE 92 RU
WHAT
lyric forge
this cant be real
this is not even close to being fair
this is legit legal robbery
one of THE best guns in the game, and all its worth is less than 1 piece of bread to buyers.
lyric forge
I... I just cant even....
I have to go to rostok, maybe they'll offer me more.
I... I just cant even....
pseudo rivet
Rostok is closed of in CS
lyric forge
wth why
pseudo rivet
Anomalies block the path, I assume
lyric forge
wth am i supposed to do? guy talking about fang and info on him wants 950 but i cant find no place to make money
lyric forge
and for 572 5.45x39 rounds, all they'll offer me is 34 RU
pseudo rivet
Yeah
pseudo rivet
Yep
rare rain
Or do some killing missions, like kill the stalker
lyric forge
why does the zone treat me like this
rare rain
what game are toy playing?
lyric forge
CS
pseudo rivet
CS
rare rain
go and liberate the concentration camp, you will get some money if im correct
pseudo rivet
Yeah
rare rain
and theres artifacts there
lyric forge
i got offered..... 92 Ru...... for a vintar BC...
I'm upset at this.
lyric forge
like legit
i go to garbage
they ask for all my money
i want to go to aprogram
they want all my money
WHY. I HAVE NOTHING.
NOTHINGGGGGGG
rare rain
start hustling
lyric forge
Its not about the money on the second point, its that they just dont care.
rare rain
lyric forge
i swear when i get back in shape and go to duty im lighting all their camps up idgaf
im killing all these scums
just wait till i join duty
rare rain
reject duty embrace freedom
lyric forge
umma kills all these bandits
pseudo rivet
Yes
Reject Duty Embrace Freedom
Yes
Reject Duty Embrace Freedom
Or join Stalker?
Or just stay a Merc
lyric forge
i shall join team ketchup, not freedom aka mustard suit losers
pseudo rivet
That's a pity
rare rain
everyone should come to the zone and take the chance to praise the all mighty monolith
unlike duty
lyric forge
i dont want to join those people, they worship scraps of metal
rare rain
take that back
rare rain
joining duty becuase muh gear
pseudo rivet
It's even accepted in the Lore of Stalker that people join them for gear, funnily enough
rare rain
imagine not joining freedom for the exo.
shrewd dagger
ugly exo
rare rain
what would happen if you microwaved a moonlight?
lyric forge
I mean it’s atleast better than that hefty bag bandits wear
finite dragon
why not join loners and do the bandit faction war
lyric forge
Umm be honest
The exo got freedom just don’t appeal in looks to me
That yellow just doesn’t look goo, kinda too bright
And even though the overly used red and black combo is in so many games, duties look better.
I like the mercs exo the most tho
rare rain
join loners and get the SEVA suit
pseudo rivet
Good tip
lyric forge
Nah... I like that berill military armor, you know, the one you get at the hotel in Pripyat in SoC? That one.
Probs my favorite one.
pseudo rivet
That's Bulat
pseudo rivet
But that's pretty great armor
lyric forge
But yeah that has pretty good armor, just I don’t like the NVG on them
The ecologist for some reason have the best
That light purple is so clear
pseudo rivet
Ecologists used to have soldiers, so it's logical for them to have such supplies
Yeah, the purple's disorientating
lyric forge
How? I find it the most fit for night, the green is so blue you’re better off with a flashlight
Is so blurred*
pseudo rivet
?
lyric forge
You said the ecologist NVG is disorientating l, how?
I find it to be the most clear one.
It sadly the armor isn’t as desired for me
pseudo rivet
Sorry, misunderstanding
Thought you were talking about my color
Sorry, it's been a horrible day
lyric forge
It’s cool.
Also speaking about last convo about mercs being ‘hostile’ to everyone, that substation in satin where they ask you for supplies, after they’re pretty cool, although I’m a loner, you can later have them be friendly and work in Yanov for ecologist.
In zaton
pseudo rivet
Yeah, they defected from the others and left the job
pseudo rivet
Yeah, when asked if they'll join for the trip to Pripyat, they refuse
They're just in it for the money and the survival
Unlike the other Mercs, they would've agreed to go to Pripyat, as that was their mission's destination
lyric forge
Ah... so I’m guessing the mercs beforehand that work for ecologist set out to try and go there?
Idk
lyric forge
I... never heard wurmfood saying ever, mind covering me on that?
finite dragon
wurm food is from cop
pseudo rivet
At Jupiter Plant?
pseudo rivet
Or is this Spoiler Territory for you?
finite dragon
NOW YOU'LL BE WUUUUUUUUUUURM FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
pseudo rivet
Nice fella
lyric forge
Gotcha... weird that I never heard this
Anyways, is there a mod to fix jumping in the series?
It feels quite unreal that I can jump off the tallest building in any stalker and live, yet I jump onto a tree near that one anomaly in CoP you have to spot with the svarge detector and I’ll insta die
I hope they fix this in S2
shrewd dagger
chances are there's nothing to fix in that regard since chances are they're using a new engine
lyric forge
True..
Well, hopefully it goes well.
umbral bay
All these STALKER covers like the one posting in #📰┃announcement make me wish more and more for just about useless QOL features like sitting next to a group of STALKERs playing guitars, and resting next to a camp fire and drinking a vodka
lyric forge
Hey speaking about guitars, I wish those things had a purpose...
Like being a melee weapon maybe
severe oriole
Hello all just thought I’d throw a Hi to my fellow stalkers.
Decided to reply the trilogy again since Corsair broke my graphics card and I’m stuck with onboard graphics... forgot how tough stalker could be!!
chrome glade
Bruh moment I wanted to learn to pick up guitar and I was good at it for a bit, first thing I learned was one of the stalker campfire songs, feel like I should start learning again
lyric forge
@severe oriole might wanna get the complete mod for top tier quality play through.
it makes the game a challenge
lyric forge
lol
lyric forge
how am i suppose to give my "friend" in garbae 950 RU if everytime I enter that place, i get all my money stripped from me?
do I just have to forcefully kill them or is there a more peaceful way?
finite dragon
join loners and do the loner bandit faction war
or if you already joined bandits, you're fricked
bandit's side of the faction war is the buggiest POS ever
lyric forge
yeah the bandits are quite annoying and always asking for my money, where do i sign up for loners?
finite dragon
note the bandits seem to multiply even if you kill all of them so even if you beat them at the way they'll repopulate, but at least they wont rob you and will just be immediately hostile
opaque galleon
Anyone know if there are any good online mods? I have been away from gaming for a few years. Just started Anomaly and Dead Air but would be cool to play online
robust forge
There are none... Yet
opaque galleon
Still just waiting for Ray Of Hope
robust forge
Or that second one which is more promising but its name I always forget
opaque galleon
I did see something called Stalker online project revival
So many mods to choose from after almost 10 years away!
craggy cobalt
How to deal a Burer at master difficulty:
Play hardbass
Pray to the Cheeki Breeki lord
Pull out knife
Tell the burer it's stabby-stabby time and it's only a matter of 2 stabs before it dies.
covert wharf
lol i made a video how i dealt with one
lyric forge
@craggy cobalt yeah couldn’t imagine that happening in CoP against all 3 of those burer’s in Lab x8
finite dragon
Just finished a hand translation for We Are Not Alone
Yes
its that
crazy moon mod
with aliens
robust forge
Yes
Which I'm yet to play
@finite dragon can you send me a link to the mod and its translation in DMs?
robust forge
Sup
covert wharf
stalker is now 10 years old happy existence day
finite dragon
stalker cop is 10 years old
finite dragon
Yeyy
lyric forge
I like how coming to garbage, the bandits confront me to strip me of my money, all to take their time doing this while an emission is going to hit.
Anyways they took too long and I didn’t make it to cover and died.
I can’t believe they would rather just shake me of all my money and die just for it, loving this game...
And yes I already tried running back to last zone I was at, got gunned down.
finite dragon
dude why are you still in the garbage
lyric forge
I haven’t played since last night
But
Since every time I come to garbage just to get myself shaked down, I have to pass to get places
lyric forge
Like me having to collect my reward from clear sky base for 6000+ RU and armor, yet in the fear I’ll get all that taken away.
ITS NOT THAT EASY
finite dragon
going all the way back to the cs base this late in the game
lyric forge
16 vs 1
finite dragon
and when you win the loner faction war they give you a seva and a veles detector
lyric forge
But bandits are s to the c to the um and take my stuff,
finite dragon
loner faction war
lyric forge
But don’t bandits come back to garbage?
They’ll be an ongoing and never ending threat
I honestly don’t feel like dealing with them
finite dragon
they repopulate yes, but by the end of it you're far outgeared to deal with them
are you using SRP + Alternative ballistics
lyric forge
I still only have long barrel shotgun and AKM, and beginner gear, I’m in no way geared up yet
SRP?
finite dragon
OPH MY GOD
download this
install
comes with alternative ballistics addon
use it
do the loner faction war
and they give you good gear
CS's progression is so easy to break
alternative ballistics addon is required
also less common blowouts
robust forge
KFC in a spatial anomaly
sturdy locust
Sidorovich Sandwich
formal rapids
Best stalker game out of all?
finite dragon
Shadow of Chernobyl. cop is a close second
drowsy vale
I agree Soc>cop>clearsky
fathom cedar
Why are mods so overrated?
Can’t people replay vanilla CS for thirty times in a row?
fathom cedar
@formal rapids Clear Sky for sure. Then SoC, then CoP (this one lost all of the universe’s immersion).
fathom cedar
Ofc.
The best plot out of three, the best level design, voice acting is incredibly good in both RU and EN, one of the best gameplay feature the whole universe has to offer, and so more-more.
CoP basically lacks replayability at all, SoC is a tech demo of CS.
finite dragon
I emplore you to play vanilla cs again and try to keep that opinion
fathom cedar
Yeah, I think that’s a good idea.
fathom cedar
CS had a lot of gamebreaking things at release, yes, but now crashes are just a meme.
Do you know what you have to do in order to crash CS?
finite dragon
patched SoC is stable and ZRP/OGSR Engine fixes even more crashes
fathom cedar
90% of crashes require a pattern of actions that are so specific that you may never encounter them.
The rest are Flea Market save corruption (heavily hardware related) and Limansk save corruptions.
And Limansk is still way more stable then SoC’s Pripyat.
finite dragon
CS is mostly fine on crashes, but the game is just broken on an engine level
fathom cedar
You don’t know what you’re talking about. Name one CS engine bug that is not in SoC.
finite dragon
x-ray engine 1.5.10 is actually garbage, and thats saying something for xray
fathom cedar
And I’ll name those that in SoC and are not in CS.
1.5.10.
You know that engine is still X-Ray 1.5, right? They used the last two numbers only for patches.
finite dragon
doesn;t matter, both 1.5 and 1.5.10 are broken versions of the engine
its far more fragile and unworkable
and many functions like body cleanup just dont work right
fathom cedar
CS was really rushed, but engine is no matter there. 99 out of 100 of CS bugs are thanks to the gamedata, not engine binaries.
I can’t even recall more than ten engine bugs, and ALL OF THEM are in SoC.
Like Sid’s voice playing 2D, psy dog crashing the game if you run from it, crash when throwing something out of not-yours inventory (and SoC has instances of this that are actually fixed in CS!).
Controller aura persisting on loading a save.
late bramble
Controller aura persisiting on loading a save is such an annoying bug in SoC
I really am glad CS fixed that
CS haters still mad
fathom cedar
No, CS did not fix it, oops.
finite dragon
for as many bugs as cs fixes it adds 10 more
late bramble
CS is bad
fathom cedar
I named all CS engine bugs (that are not fixable by SRP) and said that all and even more are in SoC.
finite dragon
the entire bandit side of the faction war is held together with elmers glue
the story is garbage and it might as well be SoC DLC
fathom cedar
CS was rushed, and I agree on that. But that’s mostly scripter’s fault. What you’re saying about engine is just plane nonsense.
fathom cedar
And Faction War is also entirely lying in Lua scripts, not engine.
late bramble
Yeah, daizen doesnt know what he's talking about when it comes to the engine discussion
late bramble
source:
fathom cedar
Ehhh.
You might really want to take WinMerge and compare them side-by-side.
SoC and CS are like Portal and Portal 2.
And CoP is PS:Mel. Reusing a lot that P2 had to offer yet still praised as the best one.
late bramble
Though I disagree that Clear Sky has the best plot, Clear Sky as a faction were a bit of mary sues along with Scar himself, and the thing about emissions making Scar stronger is just never reflected in gameplay. Level design was far superior compared to SoC, too bad CS didn't have any labs.
And CoP is the worst one imo, SoC is my favorite personally
fathom cedar
Stronger? Have you ever talked to Beanpolev?
He actually does tell you that your nervous system burns with each time you encounter an emission.
Yeah, they had new gameplay element (emissions) and part of plot (Scar can survive emissions) conflicting, but they taped that plothole in Beanpolev’s dialogue.
late bramble
Yes, I know he mentions that but it's completely nonsense that you survive the one emission in the beginning and then NEVER AGAIN can you survive one. Seemed like a stupid plot point that was explored very poorly.
late bramble
His fate is uncomfirmed and as far as we know he died at the end of CS
late bramble
Oh yeah, you're right about that
But still, both happen at the start and then never touched on again except as a motivator to push you along the main quest. Which was incredibly rushed
fathom cedar
And his fate remains untold because you never know if he survived that.
late bramble
Clear Sky also suffers from its side quest system as every NPC offers the same side quests and theyre linear
fathom cedar
Strelok did somehow without any kind of protection though.
late bramble
I just sum it up as poor writing, honestly
I wish the modding community was ae dedicated to reviving Anarchy Cell as they were Oblivion Lost, but CS's engine and side quest system makes modders not want to bother at all.
Less flexibility, more errors, just not really worth the trouble
fathom cedar
Well, I am the one documenting CS cut content (check TCRF). And there was not much cut, most was never implemented.
I’d so much like to get my hands on 32xx or 33xx.
To sum it up, an Oblivion Lost/Lost Alpha kind of mod for CS is impossible.
Something like RMA with random things restored here and there is probable though.
But there is not much. A dozen of quests, half of which are just new “RETURN ITEM: QUEST ITEM”.
Two weapons. Three characters. One mini game.
One gameplay mechanic (resource points separated by science and resource points, the first give your faction new weapons, the second just make your faction spawn bigger squads).
A few cutscenes.
late bramble
Design documents are a lot more interesting than what was actually cut
fathom cedar
Not much. Someone not knowing CS as good probably won’t even notice the changes.
fathom cedar
That makes it different from LA and stuff. Never implemented and cut are different things.
There were a lot of design documents for SoC that had a lot of ideas that remained on paper.
late bramble
LA is a bad example, that mod butchers OL very hard
fathom cedar
Never played it. Let’s take OLR then.
late bramble
and thats true, OL also had a much, much longer development time
theres a lot modders are still working on
fathom cedar
And Call of Pripyat cut content restoration? Is there ANYTHING cut?
late bramble
OLR 3.0 is coming soon™ with even more reimplemented features and full a-life
fathom cedar
Intro has a few unused lines. And that’s all I know.
I never examined resources as thoroughly as I did with CS though.
covert wharf
replay
fathom cedar
CS*.
late bramble
Replay what
fathom cedar
Replay everything.
finite dragon
cs 🤢
fathom cedar
Replay until you forget the plot, then replay again.
Replay until you have learned Sid’s starting monologue by heart.
late bramble
I got like 1800 hours on SoC alone, 200 in CS and 100 or less on CoP
late bramble
I very much like CS, and I think vanilla is fine despite some uneducated opinions
Of course they do, modding scene is a huge part of stalker and heavily encouraged by GSC
STALKER would be dead without it
fathom cedar
By new GSC that has nothing to do with original game developers.
Do you know how many people (except from Grigorovich) that developed SoC are now in the team?
late bramble
I dont give a crap about GSC now, I mean GSC then
fathom cedar
Two. Network programmer and tech support guy. Neither are working on S2. It’s a fan game by now.
late bramble
GSC has always been supportive of the modding scene
fathom cedar
Did they really endorse modding? Never actually seen that.
I mean, they published singleplayer SDK after years of fans asking.
late bramble
They allowed modders for other games to use their assets after some trouble on nexus and they supposedly kept in touch with the LA team, sure it took some time for them to publish the SDK but there hasnt really been any instance of them being anything but supportive
fathom cedar
Oh, did they actually allow using their resources?
late bramble
Regardless of what GSC thinks STALKER modding is what keeps the game alive anyway, even if I think most modern mods are crap
Yeah, Nexus were banning people for using stalker assets and GSC said it was okay as long as they werent selling it
fathom cedar
I’ve only heard about Oxygen getting commercial license.
finite dragon
OGSE
finite dragon
literally any other mod that isnt cs
late bramble
There's Old Story, it restores some content but its not perfect
fathom cedar
Gonna google that. Is it machine- or manually-translated?
fathom cedar
Eh, nothing neither design document nor cut content related.
late bramble
Is the generators scene at the beginning not unimplemented content?
or just cut content
rapid abyss
Playing glorious stalker coc. Watch brethren of the clear sky looking for the artefacts in the very hot spicy anomaly area. First man is burned, i rescue, he burn again and die. Other brethren runs to his aid to weep on his body. He dies too. Last brethren is traumatised by the events and commits suicide by fire. It was sad day. I took their wallets and ammo.
late bramble
CoC is lame
finite dragon
stop larping
late bramble
no story, no structure
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fathom cedar
or just cut content
In case you do not know, the guy who leaked most of the builds also uploaded one alternative build with this cutscene.
So there is true Build 3120 and alternative version.
Sure, there were a lot of resources scattered around, but never the whole thing. And it’s debated whether it’s even official.
vocal dew
All S.T.A.L.K.E.R is good, I dont need a story to have fun, atmosphere in S.T.A.L.K.E.R does enough for the game
gives space for rp
late bramble
@fathom cedar interesting in joining another stalker discord community? seems like youre the type of person to fit in with your knowledge of CS
fathom cedar
Probably?
late bramble
Neat
We have a channel for discussing builds / cut content and we have some fans who have been following stalker since it was first announced, moves fairly slowly but im sure you can find something you like here
ill send you a DM
finite dragon
So I'm doing SoC again, X18 atm but having had looked up to guide and stuffs before. They said there's an RPG undeground, in pseudogiant's lair but I searched the hell and back amd got nothing. You guys have any idea?
lyric forge
I don't believe there is an RPG there.
Maybe they're talking about an grenade launching attachment? because its mounted to an AKM in a locker.
finite dragon
Found that GP25 yeah, there's one RPG at the rooftop of X18 building and they said there's another underground, but I can't find the latter
lyric forge
Ah, if you're outside of the lab, check that big building with 3 stories,I took the side route which was the broken stairs and you have to jump cautiously to get onto and up.
Idk if it's up there.
Hm... Yeah I never found the one at the bottom tbh.
In the psudogiant lair, did you check all rooms in and around? how long have you been loking for it?
looking*
finite dragon
20 mins, that one which had a dead eco with code 9524 right?
lyric forge
yeah i believe he only had 556 ammo and some medical stuff on him tho
and an il86 around him
lemme see if i still have a save file for x18 and ill roam it
damn i don't I think I have one.. I'll need the code to teleport to it.
finite dragon
Wish they had a map for undeground section
lyric forge
yeah it'd make it a bit easier.
finite dragon
Yeah, I think they remove underground map to add more for the immersion.
Oh well forget about that rpg, at least I have one now and can't ask too much. Still, many thanks for your help there Stalker.
lyric forge
np, sadly my game has been finished and there were only two saves, im not sure how to duplicate them like call of pripyat
finite dragon
Hear ya, now I can add that RPG to my "I'm-going-to-Pripyat-and-gonna-wreck-monolith-so-bad" pack
lyric forge
why bring an rpg tho?
unless you're in the cnpp or went through the secret door IN the cnpp, the rpg doesnt have an actual role that possibly can be played.
and I only mention inside the secret door because enemies love cramming together and waiting to be collated. Just be prepared for the splash damage also.
Also you can just pick up a rpg at cnpp on the outskirts where some monolith will be holding it and you can just pop him, wouldn't be sure if its loaded with or without one.
also taking into consideration, monoliths are using gauss rifles, so you'll get outclassed by those if you don't know where the're at in time.
I'd suggest a Vintar BC/SA Avalanche or sniper TRS-301/G36 with hundreds of rounds, probs 350-500 plus, and plenty of med supplies, probs 30+ anti rad and 30+ medpacks.
Idk if you're just trying to get the game over with, or actually do the ending though, just be preopared IG,.
finite dragon
Thanks man, I'd already finished SoC one too. This time I'm trying hard mode. Yeah, last I brought plenty of Vintar and G36, but in the end I realized it's a bit overkill tho. Brought like 900 9x3mm and about 400 5.56 but ended up used just like 600 9x30 by the time the game ended.
lyric forge
600 you used?
do you go for body shorts or headshots?
either way 9x39 kills relatively quick, headshots i usually go for to save ammo and not let the condition of my gun go away
finite dragon
I bought a silenced Makarov for 600 RU
I gone full automatic back then, plus these monolith are damn hard to take out
Should have gone for the head
lyric forge
@finite dragon , they're common, why buy?
@finite dragon Do you carry armor piercing with you? its much more efficient to take your time and line up insta kill headshots(unless they're exo, and assuming you're playing on master, its a 3 tap with AP)
Going full auto is a sure way to die
finite dragon
Yes, all these are 900 of SP6 9x39mm. I spent a lot of time grinding for Voronin
And I waste it by going spray and pray. Damn....
lyric forge
Gotcha... Anyways, I'd recommend having a scoped rifle with great condition and accuracy, and a Black kite as a secondary. Or, if you find the Special version of the Black kite, the Big Ben, since it uses rifle ammo, 9x39, packs a great punch.
finite dragon
From the good old Gordon Freeman, I'll keep that Big Ben to the end.
lyric forge
Since I take my time, I use high caliber secondaries, because on master difficulty, you'll be doing plenty of peaking on corners.
Yeah I kept mines, very very useful secondary.
Got upset when I got my first jam on it.
finite dragon
Man you must love that B-Ben so much that it even got jammed eh?
I kept it just as some kind of trohpy tho, since the Vintar and T14 can suppress the mono better
@lyric forge I need that for stealth
lyric forge
@finite dragon I mean stealth still seems like a problem that I'm not sure has a fix to it. You'll get noticed right away.
@finite dragon I used it in a lot of peak situations, its very helpful, that 1 tap to the head and high damage output does the trick.
finite dragon
Oh yeah, I'll try
Btw I don't bother with stealth much, the AI are too god-like
But tbh, I wanted the pistol just replace the good old makarov
witha new,and silenced one
Just wait until you get your hands on VSS
craggy cobalt
The AI snipes you with an aks-74u from 1000 meters away lmao