^ Take note GSC
#⭐┃nospoilers_general
shrewd dagger
finite dragon
...actual good gunplay?
arguing on the side of floatyness and jank is never a winning side
no thats just how you view it
there is no win or lose side
when it comes to video games
stalker's vanilla guns feel like im shooting a floaty airsoft gun with fake recoil, they lack weight and punch and mods just do it better
finite dragon
so far i had a much more fun time with vanilla guns in shoc than any gun overhaul mods
also, vanilla stalker scopes lack pip
but its not just about the guns
its just the whole style of the game
jank should never be an intentional style lmao
and ai always act the same even when you install some hyper realism mod
they waste bullets like nothing while you have to conserve all the time
implying we're advocating for misery meme mods
your overhaul mods just mix everything up
stcop isnt even an overhaul mod lmao
i find a scope to be more worth than a simple rifle
all it does is replace the weapons with objectively better versions
shrewd dagger
modders expanded A-Life to just add more behaviors
finite dragon
also, vanilla ai is severely gimped in terms of its a-life
not everyone will like it
shrewd dagger
which GSC originally intended
finite dragon
and i dont expect you to like vanilla
im saying what i like about it more than modding it
but you're advocating for an objectively inferior version of the game
its what i like jesus
shrewd dagger
Original A-Life, before it got gimped at release, traveled more of the world and was able to do quests and interact with the world more
Modders restored that and added more
finite dragon
Full a-life is just better, STcop and other weapon overhauls are just better, advocating for gimped versions of the game is just backwards
yet they couldnt create better and more compelling questlines than vanilla
fake news
OGSE
shrewd dagger
especially SoC obviously
finite dragon
Kill this stalker
Come back for reward
2000 rubles
shrewd dagger
A+
i crie evryytiem
NLC 7 also has some very interesting quests
but a lot of... ridiculous ones
finite dragon
and while CoP's sidequests were definite upgrades, theres still many of them that suck
like
Protect stalkers while they take readings
or
stand in anomaly field while snorks die around you
or
shrewd dagger
finite dragon
use a sniper rifle to kill a target, and although the quest is called "one shot" the only thing that will actually one shot him is the gauss rifle
if you wanna sound more convincing just dont use 4chan meme
imagine disregarding someone's argument based on how they format it
oh damn
never should have said anything
not allowed to express what i like
sorry i use the racism arrows friend
ok
name em what you want
im gonna play my game instead
crinf
finite dragon
the vss has backup iron sights
approved
the thing is the vanilla games just arent worth playing, especially if you dont plan on replaying
lyric forge
Okay I beat COP with all characters alive
-I also killed strelok because they told me to in SoC-
But I had to restart lol
Thinking of starting Master difficulty now but the whole series all over again. Or should I Do Misery now?
shrewd dagger
Would you really want to dive back into CoP's campaign again
maybe you'd rather try a brand new Stalker experience?
Even so I wouldn't use Misery, it's not a very useful mod - you get a particular graphics style you may or may not like, insane item bloat and inventory clutter, microstuttering, very long loading times, terrible balance with silent mutants and super bullet spongey snorks and zombies and what not, very outdated ugly gun models, even more item bloat, and did I mention item bloat?
I'd suggest STCoP 3.2, the best weapon mod there is for Stalker
adding one very nice thing (new weapons with incredible animations and PiP scopes and so much more variety) vs adding a million bad things with Misery
covert wharf
A jellyfish Maybe i can finally retire
lyric forge
@shrewd dagger Alright. And if I may ask, since I did want to hop back into SoC and Clear Sky, what mods would you suggest for both?
shrewd dagger
Clear Sky is tough since there aren't many good mods for it, due to how awful its engine is
the best Clear Sky mods are just... not that impressive
generally speaking
I'm saying that as a Clear Sky modder
I hear Clear Sky Remake is perhaps the most impressive one to check out right now, but I've never played it and it's machine translated only I think
for SoC that's easy: OGSE 0693 with OGSE Weapon Expansion Pack (I'm releasing the latter VERY soon)
but you could always play a different CoP mod in the meantime, one that's a new story such as Spatial Amomawy or Valley of Whispers
lyric forge
Eh... after I finished cop I don’t wanna play it right now, did everything in it already and all quest. If I was to redo it I’d want to start back in order.
But I’ll have to check out the SoC mod for sure
Been wanting to get back into that game for a minute but have been holding out. Probs had more fun in SoC than CoP
lyric urchin
Is there any weapon more overpowered than the double barreled shotgun with buckshot rounds besides say a minigun
finite dragon
an automatic spas-12
shrewd dagger
Well Spatial Anomaly and Valley of Whispers are completely new stories, the latter on a new map, that's why I suggested them
finite dragon
spatial anomaly is phenomenal, and valley of whispers feels like a free DLC to cop
shrewd dagger
lyric forge
I’m just asking if anyone wants to play cop mp
covert wharf
heck i will be more rusty than a car you will see
covert wharf
heck sure lets go i have to try and remember my password let me leave bl2 rq
yep and i forgot lol ima have to change it
frail spire
I would put the saiga above spas just due to scope and silencer
lyric urchin
I dunno, even with a scope I feel like the DB just gets better range and tighter pellet spread
Might be personal preference but I swear I can solo the game with that and maybe a subgun of some kind for tushkano, the cheeky little-
shrewd dagger
try the double barrels in OGSE Weapon Expansion Project where they're proper bottom tier weapons
wanton flower
robust forge
Russians do
We don't really try to
For example I'm just too stupid for ciphers and all
lyric forge
what cipher
pseudo rivet
There is a secret code that might reveal some information about the new game
pseudo rivet
They just tell us hints
lyric forge
But didnt they already state the game is coming in 2021..?
grizzled forge
They did
lyric forge
Alright then I'm lost, what is the code for then?
frail spire
Probably some random strelok rambling
I'm sure they'll make strelok a bad guy or an insane one at least for S2
regal aurora
101% strelok will lose a hand, put a hand of degtyarov and then degtyarov will take mind control over strelok body
regal aurora
then he will fight Scar Snake I guess
frail spire
What if future strelok comes out from a time anomaly
Starts talking about how C-Con somehow come back and indeed spread the zone throught the whole world
regal aurora
and then he will say how to make Chernobyl GREAT AGAIN
open lintel
@frail spire please refrain from swearing. It’s against the rules
Gotta ask you to edit that out
frail spire
Fine fine
open lintel
Thanks.
frail spire
If I wasn't so lazy I would single handedly destroy this place
open lintel
Thanks for not doing so then :p
lyric forge
Jeez after about 3 years pf playing SoC, I just remembered how bad the shaking when you run is.
of*
lyric forge
So far SoC master difficulty doesn’t feel as hard as I thought
The AI don’t even feel as accurate with their shots either
shrewd dagger
If you want a challenge, play OP2.1 mod
frail spire
Because master difficulty has always been the "easiest" one if you aren't a scrub since it tracks damage fairly realistically
A bullet to the head usually does the job for anyone unless you're using a 9x18/9x19 or .45 and the other guy is heavily armored
It was always about the compromise of "enemies aren't bullet sponges but you can't just stack armor and artifacts to negate all damage"
Hard is just that, hard, enemies hit like the snipers from MoE when getting too far from the stage and you need at least 10 point blank headshots with a shotgun to kill someone
late bramble
master makes enemies even more of a bullet sponge
its not the easiest, dont spread that meme around
stalker is just easy in general
on master in SoC you do 100% damage but on novice you do 120%, aside from that the only thing thats affected is that enemies drop a lot less loot on master
signal karma
finite dragon
Take enemies weapon, they have ammo for it and usually enemies in certain area have similar weapons with similar ammo so you never really run out as long as you stick to ammo type enemies use ATM @signal karma
Also if you don't do so already (Which I suppose you do but just to be sure), always go through weapons enemies drop and take out the ammo, then just drop it. This way I only ever ran out of ammo in the first lab since I wasted a lot tbh
rare rain
i just kinda sneaked my way in since i ran out of healing.
frail spire
Always check bodies for the ammo, if you're really running dry try to pick some gun that it isn't absolutely smashed and use it
lyric forge
@finite dragon Yeah one annoying thing about SoC is that when checking someone’s body, You can’t just empty their gun in that stage, rather you have to pick there gun up, exit looting, go into your inventory and unload from there. Time consuming if you can just do how CoP has it.
finite dragon
Didn't play CoP just yet, part of me loves the looting of ammo that way though 😄
just finished clear sky the day before yesterday
lyric forge
Also @late bramble Not easiest, as I still can get killed pretty fairly on master, though my expectations were higher for master, I assumed they’d beam me and give me a much less chance, as my other experiences with highest difficulty games have left me, such as the F.E.A.R series( which was an absolute nightmare besides 2). I guess though I’ll have to wait till I get to enemies with higher tier weapons to see how hard it gets. So far at garbage and is pretty fair.
@finite dragon In the heat of fights that’s a sure way to waste time and get killed, especially on higher difficulties.
finite dragon
It's definitely better to do after fight, yeah. It's a custom of mine to clear the location, then go dot to dot looting everything usefull including ammo of the dropped guns
Inventory cap definitely kicked my ass a lot though that way 😄
It was way better in clear sky thanks to +30kg capacity of inventory artifact
shrewd dagger
@finite dragon I would suggest the mods shown here for when you play CoP (yes even on your first time, the video shows why as well):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qg4MSwLCJc
finite dragon
@shrewd dagger I will check it out 
pseudo rivet
I like it when my gun jams in the mid of battle
It forces you to seek cover and reload whilst being shot at
robust forge
Yeah
And that's why I like milsims aswell
People shouting over your ear but you can't hear them from bullets flying over you with loud cracks
Especially when you're a medic
Recovering your teammates in the heat of battle
lyric forge
@finite dragon Use the complete mod for CoP
pseudo rivet
finite dragon
i was told to not use complete mod for SoC since I was told it made it quite easier even though it claims not to
at least i think it was its name
pseudo rivet
It's basically seen as a big joke under the stalker community
finite dragon
I see
well i checked out the vid and cant really use most of it
I already have trouble running the game on dedicated GPU I have 😂
Have to turn off all the fancy lighting and stuff
to run while streaming
lyric forge
Complete mod prolly is the second biggest meme produced from stalker related content, besides the overused “cheeky breeki”
finite dragon
I like the cheeki breeki meme 😄
robust forge
Eh, it's overused
finite dragon
overused indeed, but its part of the stalker life
lyric forge
Every thought rookie difficulty could get easier? Use complete and its toddler mod
Mode*
finite dragon
Also boris fan...
robust forge
And it has become irrelevant thanks to some Estonian youtuber claiming to be slavic
finite dragon
I guess that's boris, yeah
shrewd dagger
Complete is useless
shrewd dagger
Not only does it make them easier but they're just obsolete
lyric forge
Complete was the first mod I downloaded, I quit CoP after that. Didn’t even want to finish my save game
If I recall correctly, probs one of the best mods I’ve had was the faction wars mod,.
Felt pretty fun to me.
shrewd dagger
that's a legendary mod for Clear Sky
lyric forge
I used for CoC
shrewd dagger
Great for its time, though I'd say it's kind of obsolete now with CoC mods
do you mean Warfare for CoC?
lyric forge
Yes.
Couldn’t think of the exact name, only knew it dealt with factions.
I actually felt good about leading my men into battle
finite dragon
I was dissapointed by the vanilla faction wars in clear sky
especially the fact they just kept coming back even though i cleared them out entirely
shrewd dagger
yes it was poorly implemented
if you're into faction warfare stuff, I highly recommend Call of Chernobyl by stason174 on moddb
finite dragon
thank you, so many mods for this game love it
also on another note, ending of clear sky was kind of poorly executed as well... I was especially bothered by the fact I can't repair my armor anywhere along the way so it came down to horrible amount of save scumming and it was just plain frustrating
Maybe I missed something but... yeah that's how i experienced it
shrewd dagger
Most people think most of Clear Sky was poorly executed
shrewd dagger
Too bad the Clear Sky Remake mod has a fishy launcher that could possibly be malware, seems like it might be the best Clear Sky experience otherwise
finite dragon
I enjoyed reading it
shrewd dagger
Yeah, dialogue especially earlier in the game is one of its strengths
shrewd dagger
If it wasn't for that weapon mod I posted above, I'd prefer CS to CoP
Bad writing that contradicts the past games is a problem that plagues CoP
and it only has 3 main maps
finite dragon
Yeah, like the last four locations are just plain linear with no side quests to be found
and annoying fetch quests in main storyline
first half of the game was alright I'd say though
Oh you mean CoP though, well its still true though about the clear sky
shrewd dagger
yes
My favorite story/campaign experiences in the series are OGSE 0693 and Oblivion Lost Remake
robust forge
I need to play OGSE
shrewd dagger
OGSE Weapon Expansion Project is coming out in 1-2 weeks
shrewd dagger
OGSR mod is a new mod based in OGSE 0693 with new content, and a newer version of OGSR engine with DX11
but it's in beta and not in English yet
very incomplete
shrewd dagger
for now definitely
shrewd dagger
You can get it on moddb but it's a bunch of separate downloads, or you can get it with these two downloads:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h6k1ncUy9qk0EYpgvas1pK4ZviVNuJlo/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fI8gEB_MgIZMkWcuzZfx6X0ovkDrQXx5/view
OGSE Weapon Expansion Project will be on moddb
robust forge
Ok, ty
late bramble
make sure to run the configurator before and after installing the 64bit engine update
otherwise you might bork something
robust forge
I'm on x64
late bramble
Then you're good to go
late bramble
wew did you already download and install those links?
shrewd dagger
sounds correct but check to see if the folder has a bin_x64 folder
shrewd dagger
Yeah the naming can get confusing: There's an OGSR engine update for OGSE 0693, which ports it to OGSR 1.0007 x64 engine -> This is effectively the latest version of OGSE
late bramble
those were my links btw, thanks for installing my bitcoin miner :^)
shrewd dagger
Then there's a mod called OGSR which is a new mod based on OGSE 0693
late bramble
its just joke...
shrewd dagger
we all know it's really mining ethereum
late bramble
dont tell them wtf
lyric forge
@shrewd dagger I’ve only ever used AO-1.3(Arsenal Overhaul), any other weapon mod that tops it? I actually enjoyed that mod a lot due to its variety of weapons and optics but I want a lot more weapons. A lot of the weapons in Arsenal overhaul felt like the same weapon but reskinned but a good amount I enjoyed.
nova mantle
If you want quantity over quality TAZ is a way to go
Too bad is only available for Misery for now
shrewd dagger
TAZ is limited to Misery and Misery sucks, and STCoP 3.2 is by far the best weapon mod in existence for S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
nova mantle
But AFAIK there are plans of porting it to Anomaly
Man
Anomaly plus TAZ
that would be pretty awesome
shrewd dagger
That's in the works
Meanwhile there's already a fork of stason's CoC which is 64-bit and has STCoP 3.2, without the PiP scopes though
but that's as good as it's gonna get for now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qg4MSwLCJc
A little preview of STCoP 3.2 in the second half of this video
can't beat these scopes
3D with dual render/picture-in-picture tech
along with the finest models and animations in the series thus far
nova mantle
The scopes are simply orgasmic, I admit
lyric forge
Damn... is it SoC compatible?
I’m running vanilla currently but these weapons are horrendous. Surprisingly tho their aim is better than CoP
shrewd dagger
no
shrewd dagger
Nah, the mod I speak of is in beta like Amomawy
it's called Doomed City
stason's itself has STCoP 2.9
CoP mods can't work for SoC and vice versa, but SoC has the next best weapon mods
robust forge
Yeah
shrewd dagger
this is an SoC mod
and this, no other mod has these features
https://streamable.com/0ydhk
silk charm
I looked for that Doomed City mod and i got results for a GTA: SA mod
robust forge
We need translation for NLC7
shrewd dagger
I'll play NLC 7 Build 3.0 machine translated
although next year I might do a new machine translation with DeepL, which is way better than Yandex and Google
tribal jolt
Are there any good anomaly addons
silk charm
@tribal jolt Most of the user made addons from Anomaly were implemented in the 3.0 update
tribal jolt
When was that?
silk charm
The update came out around September of this year i think
shrewd dagger
You should join the Amomawy discord if you haven't
tribal jolt
Gimme invite
silk charm
Also, yeah
tribal jolt
I need to play it again
silk charm
I'll DM you the invite
tribal jolt
Last time I played it was like mid summer
shrewd dagger
Also try stason's CoC, see which you like more
tribal jolt
I just like how they redid outfits
shrewd dagger
If you mean the "HD" CoD models that still exist, I hate that
silk charm
I sent you the invite
silk charm
Even though i love Anomaly i'm still waiting for the Ray of Hope project to be finished
tribal jolt
When will that be finished?
silk charm
I don't know
tribal jolt
Oh
silk charm
But it's like a co-op STALKER game
shrewd dagger
never
silk charm
silk charm
maybe lol
but it still looks alright
although i doubt people are going to be playing it by the time STALKER 2 comes out
tribal jolt
Yeah
silk charm
and that depends if STALKER 2 is going to have multiplayer as well, probably something like what's shown in that video
silk charm
more like
shrewd dagger
xrmpe is the more interesting MP project but both will probably never come out
silk charm
cough SuRvAriUm
tribal jolt
Another mod I’m looking forward to
it has nothing to do with stalker but it is amazing
Fallout the frontier
silk charm
I've never heard of xrmpe
shrewd dagger
shrewd dagger
most gweilos never heard of the good mods
the masses just get obsessed with Misery, Autumn Aurora, Amomawy, vanilla Call of Chernobyl which is literally a dead mod
and now Ray of Dope
silk charm
Well, to be honest it's because most of the STALKER english community is focused around other mods, but now i see that the russian community gets to play the cooler mods
tribal jolt
Because translations
silk charm
Anomaly is alright although it's for more hardcore STALKER players
tribal jolt
Anomaly is basically misery + CoC
silk charm
yep
shrewd dagger
Many of these lesser known mods are available in English as well
Yeah Amomawy is basically Last Day (Call of Misery) + MLR 6.2 (part of Last Day) + Warfare + 64-bit engine + some WIP story modes and other customizations
newer MLR is so much better though, and Misery is awful
stason's CoC is basically CoC 1.4.22 + MLR 8.3 + Extended Offline A-Life (Warfare equivalent, optional) + DoctorX Dynamic Quests + additional quests + 64-bit engine (optional) + other customizations
there are a ton of other mods like those too
late bramble
private servers + microtransactions
silk charm
really?
late bramble
dead on arrival
yeah its in their FAQ
or on their discord
they want to add cosmetic microtransactions because lmao
shrewd dagger
Like I said the gweilos obsess over bad mods
late bramble
and they want to lock the servers down to private only
shrewd dagger
Ray of NOPE
late bramble
so its going to just be bootleg EFT with microtransactions
silk charm
That's a big no-no from me then
late bramble
xrMPE is the better bet when it comes to multiplayer / co-op
silk charm
seriously killed my expectations now lol
silk charm
crappy move from the devs
late bramble
silk charm
They played us like a damn fiddle!
late bramble
if GSC has any brains they will shut the proposal down and shut them down for private server bs
tribal jolt
you were meant to destroy them not join them
late bramble
but i dont think theyll give a crap
shrewd dagger
They've allowed microtransactions in another mod
tribal jolt
What mod
late bramble
those microtransactions went to charity supposedly
but its a really good mod, NLC 7
frail spire
Dear god
shrewd dagger
removed now
tribal jolt
Who is gonna pay for some shady mod dev
late bramble
mod is great but the microtransactions were a real dumb move on the devs part, charity or not
frail spire
What did the micros even bought
late bramble
and the NLC 7 devs are legends so i guess they got away with it
frail spire
Items?
silk charm
for cosmetics
frail spire
Lmao
shrewd dagger
ray of dope will be private servers only
late bramble
it was super cheap and supposedly went to charity
and they removed the microtransactions now
shrewd dagger
you won't be able to download or mod nuffin in ray of dope
frail spire
Then why not just add a button that says "donations"
tribal jolt
Ray of hope is just private?
frail spire
Oh wait
late bramble
private servers
shrewd dagger
it's gonna be like those crappy stalker mods for arma 3
but with microtransactions
frail spire
If they wanted money they could just say "hey guys we may look into translating it so pay us for it"
shrewd dagger
so just play escape from shartkov
frail spire
Boom, instantly more market
tribal jolt
Bruh
late bramble
westeners dont give a crap lol
tribal jolt
What even is escape from Tarkov
late bramble
they only want to play CoC mod 2010201
frail spire
Westerners do care but why bother playing a mod with zero translation
Not even broken english
frail spire
This is like the issue with weeb games
Theres a bunch of jap games that crash and burn because they never get a translation
Or go first few games translated and the rest not
See summon night
Vodka games are the same
shrewd dagger
good luck getting a gweilo to play any mod other than Amomawy, base CoC (obsolete), Misery (crap), or Autumn Aurora 2 (ew) lol
frail spire
Also vodka in general hate westerners, see literally any community with a vodka corner
late bramble
mod has its own story
ewww its not lore friendly!! plays mods like anomaly that trash on lore
mod is for SoC
eww its outdaated!
westeners deserve the hate
shrewd dagger
misery's lore friendly microstutter is best lore duhh
frail spire
Then don't whine about people not caring about your untranslated mods
silk charm
Even though Anomaly isn't exactly lore friendly (the story is kinda crap anyways), it has its pros and cons though
shrewd dagger
lore friendly midget tents
late bramble
mod authors are grateful for the westeners that do play their mods
like Jekan
he's cool
shrewd dagger
nobody is talking about untranslated mods
frail spire
That was my whole argument point
frail spire
Devs don't even bother with some broken translation to even share their stuff
Its all vodka or kys
late bramble
many devs do if they know if they have interested westeners
shrewd dagger
You probably believe Amomawy, CoC, Autumn Aurora, Misery, Lost Alpha are the only translated mods
late bramble
Jekan himself is helping with translating Goldsphere because of it
silk charm
Well, if a mod isn't popular enough of course westerners are going to play the most popular ones
shrewd dagger
you're merely describing the stereotypical ignorant gweilo, Argen
frail spire
I've heard only good things about nlc 7
But guess what when you ask "hey is it there an english patch?"
"No"
frail spire
Well there goes your average modder interest
Literally asked on the mod channel and the only one supposedly was the machine translated one
late bramble
thats not a no
frail spire
Good luck understanding machine translated vodka
late bramble
man westeners are so entitled
they only play bad mods and then cry when devs dont translate mods
shrewd dagger
Consider this ArgenAnon:
A) NLC 7 Build 3.0 is very recent
B) It is a GARGANTUAN mod, bigger than any you've played I bet
C) One of the best translators, who has spent among the most time translating mods, WANTS to translate it after he's finished translating Goldsphere. He'll need help getting people together though
frail spire
"If it isnt my vodka branded mod its bad"
late bramble
whats your favorite mod
shrewd dagger
You missed my point earlier: many of the best, most ambitious mods have already been hand translated, the gweilos just don't care because:
A) They never heard of it because they just get sucked into the Amomawy hype right now
B) It's not a CoC mod so they don't care, like Maxine was saying earlier
C) It's a SoC mod so they don't care, like Maxine was saying earlier
frail spire
Well thats because your actual fanbase is diluted in the sea of retards who think they've barely scratched the mod scene
Like literally any known niche game recently
silk charm
bruh so much xenophobia here
late bramble
stalker isnt niche
shrewd dagger
And also most of the western stalker players only use moddb as a source, which hardly gets anything
late bramble
the blatant ignorance is amusing
frail spire
True
shrewd dagger
Follow this group on ModDB, we're actually giving you gweilos some of the newer and better stuff:
https://www.moddb.com/groups/c-consciousness
also stalker wasn't niche in the west, when they were new
they were very popular
now that they're older, they've become more niche in the west yeah
NVIDIA, EVGA and other big names advertised the hell out of Clear Sky
silk charm
with all due respect you could have just simply posted that link rather than starting a huge debate about bad mods and good mods lol
frail spire
What a waste
tribal jolt
Then what is a good website for good mods
frail spire
Ask the vodkas, good luck actually getting an answer though
silk charm
seemed like it, but it doesn't matter, you say western players have a bad taste in stalker mods, you should probably encourage others to play these unheard mods rather than argue about them being overhyped for all the popular mods
thank you, i as a ''westerner'' will look at that link
tribal jolt
Your non “gweilo” mods
frail spire
Thats what Im saying, language barrier killed a lot of good mods
shrewd dagger
You guys have that ModDB group now, and then:
https://ap-pro.ru/
http://stalker-worlds.ru/
And VK which is like Russian facebook
@silk charm I never said bad taste (might be mixing me up with Maxine), I just listed the very small amount of mods they know and how many of them seem to believe those are the only mods in English
I mean there are a lot more even on ModDB
e.g. a hand translated and further improved Narodnaya Solyanka 2016 exists exclusively on ModDB
you know what
I'll put Dollchan 7 on moddb tonight
OGSE has been on ModDB since 2011, in English
frail spire
The more mods the better
finite dragon
hi guys
frail spire
No mods should die for having a language circlejerk
shrewd dagger
We (that ModDB group) can only do so much though, there are actually a TON more being posted all the time on those Russian sites
e.g. I just got alerted to Doomed City today
which I will look at later, and if it checks out port a translation over to it and translate the rest of it, and then upload to ModDB
tribal jolt
Money
shrewd dagger
Oh and also keep track of this if you're really interested:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GgBFCRIbc7TQ5DwWHvWaridX1G64PYoWItkLyr3pBPk/edit#gid=0
this is kept up to date
silk charm
Hmm
Interesting
@shrewd dagger what mods do you recommend then that isn't anything that is part of the popular mods from the english community?
shrewd dagger
I would generally just say, if you're a gamer who has the time and interest in S.T.A.L.K.E.R., check out everything on that sheet and just check out those websites I mentioned and pick and choose what interests you since the mods are so incredibly diverse
silk charm
well
shrewd dagger
But for those looking for something very Stalkerish, my top recommendations are OGSE 0693 + OGSE Weapon Expansion Pack (I'm releasing this in 1-2 weeks) and Oblivion Lost Remake 2.5
silk charm
i'm mainly looking for a story-driven STALKER mod
frail spire
I'll wait for them then
shrewd dagger
Perfect, those two mods I just named are my top recommendation then
OLR 2.5 is basically what GSC actually intended for SoC
OGSE 0693 is basically the ultimate version of SoC as it is (without changing the main story significantly)
frail spire
Are they heavy graphics mods or you can tweak them?
tribal jolt
Is OGSE Old Good Stalker evolution
tribal jolt
Ok
frail spire
Cool then, I hate mods that basically force you to play in the "intended way"
While not giving an option to get rid of trash like motion blur
shrewd dagger
OGSE has a ton of configuration not unlike a CoC mod, it's in the launcher
OLR also has a configurator with a lot of very useful options
robust forge
Yeah
fluid oasis
shrewd dagger
bugger off, shill
red tulip
One of the best translators, who has spent among the most time translating mods, WANTS to translate it after he's finished translating Goldsphere. He'll need help getting people together though
I sure do hope you're talking about Pukekiller, and not me. Goldsphere is my first, and not last translation project.
shrewd dagger
nvm ur dab
didn't know golden ball was your first but I know you're dedicated to it
red tulip
lyric forge
I think the biggest fears for me about GSC on S2 would be if they can successfully fix and implement a nice system for stealth, new engine hopefully and not crash-likely, and the company in general to not ride the wave for trends cough Battle Royale cough .
I dislike BR with a burning hatred
Well that and loot boxes
dusk vigil
Aight guys.
I'm a few days into my anomaly 1.5 run, taking my time, loner route, and Jesus I'm glad I took the time to get into it.
& 
lyric forge
I prefer bread 
lyric urchin
STALKER got me into preserved salami rolls tbh
A salami with a red wine as a preservative? Good stuff
covert wharf
it is good
frail spire
Excuse me but you just need to roll that bread along a fireball and it will be warm like just done
covert wharf
fireball wont help a stale Kfc dry bread
frail spire
Better than eating a snork hand
covert wharf
true
tribal jolt
Salami with cream cheese
shrewd dagger
gross
tribal jolt
Go to rules
shrewd dagger
go to gulag
frail spire
to the GNUlag
pseudo rivet
@tired anvil Could you give Trill the Loner Role?
iron heathBOT
Auttaja
pseudo rivet
Thank you
lyric urchin
Could I swap to Clear Sky I might've fat-fingered into my current role
finite dragon
renegades lmao
lyric urchin
I'm NOT a pee boy!!! I'm NOT!!!!
lyric urchin
IM NOT A PEEPEE BOY I MISCLICKED I SWEAR IM NOT
lyric urchin
lyric forge
Hey not sure if this is a common issue for SoC,
But my HUD will not properly display close-by
enemies. It's stagnate and usually have to
Close out of my game and restart it. Is this
Normal?Also what else bugs are common for SoC?
pseudo rivet
@lyric urchin I'm sorry, but you'll have to stay a Renegade forever
covert wharf
your soul will be renegade forever
steady jasper
hello GSC GAME World studio
lyric urchin
Ah man now I HAVE to be rebellious and yellow
frail spire
Just kill a few loners and rank up
robust forge
I don't
pseudo rivet
Shut up and smile, Proamulus
feral verge
Flawless victory! Now do it again!
robust forge
Nice
lyric urchin
Man if I knew salvation only took mass murder I would've been in heaven a LONG time ago
robust forge
@pseudo rivet you see. I didn't believe in him and it worked
open lintel
Sorry for the delay :p
lyric urchin
Thank you dutyjesus
lyric urchin
Question for the room, whats a song that feels very S.T.A.L.K.E.Rish to y'all? I think SayK - Alone creates some similar feelings to the games but that's a pretty common answer
pseudo rivet
Song or ambience?
stuck granite
can i change my faction pls
pseudo rivet
Which faction would you like to be?
stuck granite
I heard the song renegades on the radio and now i want to be one
pseudo rivet
@tired anvil Could you make this man a Renegade?
iron heathBOT
Auttaja
tired anvil
-takerole @stuck granite Freedom
iron heathBOT
Auttaja
stuck granite
ty
tired anvil
bit offtop, but anyone here been to slovakia?
pseudo rivet
Thank you, Jester
No, but I'll go there in the summer
People call it Slovenia now
pseudo rivet
Sure, let's change our whole countries' name
tired anvil
czechoslovenia
tired anvil
o really lol
pseudo rivet
Apparently
tired anvil
lets go to #💬┃en_offtop
hard stirrup
so i been out of the stalker loop for the past 2 months has there been any update to stalker 2?
red tulip
Yes. You can get a demo of Stalker 2 if you send Sergei 50 cans full of Pepsi.
finite dragon
peepee poopoo
lyric forge
Why does the army base have to be so hard to leave.
pseudo rivet
barren mason
+ =
finite dragon
how
slow sky
An emission is approaching
tribal jolt
|| Get out of here stalker ||
frail spire
"Oh yes and emission is approaching alright"
lyric forge
So my expectations were kinda low with X-ray engine.
I havent crashed once when I played through the whole game on CoP.
Yet, I crashed within the first 30 mins on SoC.
And yes it was from a....
q-q-q-quick...save
pseudo rivet
Depends on the game
covert wharf
well well well
slow sky
call of pripyat
pseudo rivet
Firefly - Chemical Anomalies
Flame - Thermal Anomalies
Goldfish - Gravitational Anomalies
Snowflake - Electrical Anomalies
They're pretty rare, so be sure to use a Veles or a Svarog Detector
slow sky
yea i got veles
while going from
yanov?
tooo pripyat?
i thing
like that underground stuff
pseudo rivet
Try looking for a dot that's pretty big
slow sky
yeah i know
pseudo rivet
If a dot is big, it means it's a rare artifact
pseudo rivet
But I personally recommend Zaton or Pripyat for Artifact Hunting
But Jupiter is also good
slow sky
zaton u mean first area?
pseudo rivet
Yeah
pseudo rivet
The swamp area
pseudo rivet
More variety of anomalies around there
And then there's Beard, who can give you a better price for the Artifacts
pseudo rivet
Good luck, Stalker
slow sky
Thanks comrade
void vortex
frail spire
Pripyat also has this basement where you find the advanced tools that has a big anomaly field with a moving fireball
I think mostly are gas but theres like 4 clamped fields in one place
But yeah, zaton is just really good for art hunt
You've got circus, boiler, iron forest, the tree one, the one near the snork den, the one near the crashed heli that has the aa complex tunnel exit
Scar anomaly too
And all are relatively close
pseudo rivet
He means the Calibration Kit
pseudo rivet
Nice
slow sky
i feel proud
pseudo rivet
It's great honor to crash in Stalker for the first time
pseudo rivet
Not at all, tovarishch
It is a old tradition among the Stalker Community
Your first crash is a proof of you becoming a True Stalker
rare rain
Any tips on how to make capture places in clear sky, it says i need to capture it but there are already stalkers there
pseudo rivet
In case there are already Stalkers there, you need to kill them
It may damage your Reputation a little bit, but that should solve the problem
rare rain
I mean there are friendly stalkers who are on my team there
rare rain
Friendly stalkers.
pseudo rivet
Then you'll have to shoot them
rare rain
Aw man
pseudo rivet
It will damage reputations, but you can earn that back
Which Faction are you siding with, by the way?
rare rain
Siding with freedom this playthrough, and thanks for the help!
rare rain
oh yeah i need that Freedom exo since i play on master difficulty.
pseudo rivet
Heh
Yeah
Exo, Freedom Exo, Skat, SEVA and the CS-3 are pretty good for Master
GSC even made a post about the CS-3a, now I think about it
Or well, the CS-1
The names got turned around
finite dragon
Newb here
pseudo rivet
Welcome
rare rain
Fighting for freedom is literally impossible, im more babysitting them then fighting.
finite dragon
smh
pseudo rivet
True
You'll need to upgrade your weapons and armor as high as you can
And convert your new SGI-5k to 5.45x39mm
rare rain
Thats not the problem, the problem is when im done defending a point, the other one gets attacked and i can't leave them otherwise it gets taken over
i had like 20 energy drinks in the start now 1
slow sky
bro what
the ending of call of pripyat
is so weird
i dont feel like i achieved anything wym
pseudo rivet
@rare rain Yeah, it's just a whole lot of running around. Don't worry about leaving an area to save another. Be sure to defend an Outpost at all cost
rare rain
i just kinda saved an outpost and rushed the duty base
quartz snow
I know most people here know Clear Sky in near perfect detail
but seeing as it recently became 11 years old
I decided to release my review on it
lyric forge
I really hate the fact that I can’t repair guns and armor in SoC. I know there are mods but I just wanna play the full vanilla than get into mods later.
I have a Fast firing AKM and it’s just starting to jam.
shrewd dagger
vanilla isn't worth it precisely due to limitations like that and relatively crappy gunplay and dated visuals/sound
no reason not to use ZRP + graphics mods + OWR 3 at least
frail spire
Playing vanilla soc is just done for the first time
Regardless of how much people hate CoP writing it does better at giving a vanilla experience from a technical standpoint
shrewd dagger
what do you mean by technical standpoint
pseudo rivet
It's more advance than SoC
Y'know
Helmets
Upgrades
Repairing
Sleeping
Small things like that
shrewd dagger
Those things are nice yeah
But saying it "does better at giving a vanilla experience" is a stretch since I can easily say I'd rather play vanilla SoC than vanilla CoP due to CoP having such a lousy campaign and writing
but who cares about vanilla, it's useless and not worth it for any of them
and you never need to play vanilla thankfully
lyric forge
Yeah but one thing about CoP over SoC to me it just feels like my bullets are literally nerf darts and the guns are so damn inaccurate I mine as well just hipfire. I’m playing on master and they are soaking up my bullets.
In CoP, the aim and overall accuracy for the guns felt way better COMPARED TO SoC.
I have a lot of other differences between the two, just this one is so annoying.
Killing the bandits off at the car park was a 20 minute corner-popping session.
And the excruciating recoil the pistols give off at start hurt my eyes.
pseudo rivet
I'm starting to get bored of this "Mods VS Vanilla" thing
shrewd dagger
all the more reason to play modded
ballistics suck in all of them unless using mods
lyric forge
@pseudo rivet I didn’t mention a mod though???
pseudo rivet
No, you didn't
shrewd dagger
mod mod mod mod mod
mods vs vanilla mods vs vanilla
all day every day
easy though
mods every time
innit
mawd mawd
psst @pseudo rivet mods or vanilla
tribal jolt
shrewd dagger
M.O.D. = Massive Over Dose
late bramble
mods are objectively better but i like both
tribal jolt
Mods for game play vanilla for nostalgia
feral verge
And OP-2
tribal jolt
Anomaly isn't terrible
it's not good either
It's something to do
With my 2 hours of free time
feral verge
It's just okay, I guess
tribal jolt
Not good not terrible
feral verge
3.0 kinda ruined some of what it had going for it
shrewd dagger
a lot
feral verge
They removed the option to remove armour drops, changed a ton of graphics settings, and added zombies to Cordon
lyric forge
@tribal jolt yeah def vanilla feels nice for nostalgia, and mods for exploring the creations of others.
feral verge
Among other things
feral verge
Pre-patch you could get an exo in the first 2 minutes by killing the zombies
shrewd dagger
Graphics changed, new Warfare factions and bugs, loadouts changed, new storylines, new animations, new everything basically
tribal jolt
I hate the mods that go a bit too realistic
shrewd dagger
but I take issue with 3.0 more than 2.4
feral verge
Warfare was completely broken in 3.0 at first
tribal jolt
Anomaly, dead air,
shrewd dagger
loadouts and monster spawns are all designed around having no sense of progression
feral verge
Werejew FINALLY came back to fix it
shrewd dagger
also weapons are totally unbalanced for now
tribal jolt
What guns are good now?
tribal jolt
Oy vey
shrewd dagger
and rookies in leather jackets in the rookie village with Armsel Protectas
tribal jolt
It never made sense to see loner guys with the super shotgun
shrewd dagger
I haven't tried any of its story modes though, can't really be ARSED due to the lame gameplay
tribal jolt
The story mode pre 3.0 was garbage
feral verge
The stories aren't that great
shrewd dagger
I'm sure it's not much better
shrewd dagger
I'll finish OGSE, move on to NLC 7 Build 3.0 and simultaneously port OGSE Weapon Expansion Project to Oblivion Lost Remake hopefully
feral verge
OGSE WEP... now there's something a real man would play
shrewd dagger
I've already begun porting it to the beta OGSR mod, and I'm gonna backport it to the previous version of OGSE which doesn't have these annoying bugs
feral verge
New guns and PiP scopes, what else can you ask for? A rebalance? Also done
Re-done quest rewards? You got it
shrewd dagger
And in my 11 years of playing the series, OGSE 0693 has been my overall favorite Stalker experience
and only OLR comes close so far
shrewd dagger
pseudo rivet
Yep
near star
I do and don't want to force myself through OGSE
feel free to spoil it for me, do I have to go to the darkscape often?
hate that empty abyss of a map
lyric urchin
I feel like so much could be done with both Generators and Darkscape that nobody has hopped on to try, is terrain and structure modelling in S.T.A.L.K.E.R that bad?
late bramble
They send you back and forth through darkscape several times in OGSE
its kind of a slog
shrewd dagger
Darkscape actually has very interesting content in OGSE unlike every other mod
finite dragon
Night guys
finite dragon
Some1 msg me if they've HO (Hangouts)
lyric forge
MFW I enter a deathmatch at Bar and was told to fight 6 bandits that only had "pistols are sawn off's"
They showed up with AK's
Wth man.
finite dragon
owned
opaque galleon
So i have recently returned to gaming after almost 10 years. I was a big fan of the stalker games from back in the day but it looks like I missed on all of these mods that have been developed. Any suggestions on the best mods to play?
covert wharf
stalker anomaly mod its pretty neato
finite dragon
@opaque galleon ignore anomaly and complete, play mods like spatial anomaly, stcop 3.2, OGSE,
those are some good mods
robust forge
Mmm
Priestrijenna anomalija
(my masterful combination of polish Serbian and Russian)
shrewd dagger
Best story mods for those who don't understand Russian: OGSE 0693, Oblivion Lost Remake 2.5, and for shorter ones see Spatial Anomaly, Valley of Whispers, and maybe even Dollchan 7. All of these but Dollchan are on ModDB, and for OLR 2.5 make sure you get the one listed here:
https://www.moddb.com/groups/c-consciousness/downloads
Best freeplay mod is Call of Chernobyl by stason174 I'd say
which can be found in the above link
but freeplay is obviously more repetitive by nature
robust forge
Yeah
rare rain
Whats up with the random killing rusty pipes in limansk in clear sky
nvm they were electric
opaque galleon
Thanks guys for the mod suggestions will be getting into those this weekend. However I think once Ray of hope is released then I don't think I will ever leave the zone again haha
pseudo rivet
Ray of Hope looks like Escape from Tarkov, tbh
Doesn't that game have Multiplayer, by the way?
opaque galleon
What tarkov or Ray of hope? Both do or will when roh is released
pseudo rivet
Tarkov
opaque galleon
I'm sure it does not played it though. Just seen videys on YouTube
So like I said earlier back to gaming after a ten year break but I also see a game called Chernobylite is out soon 👍🏻 or 👎🏻
tired anvil
pretty sure tarkov is only multiplayer, its not mp if u cant find people so u get the bots @pseudo rivet
rare rain
Does anyone here know how to get strelok back in clear sky, im on the last level and he just phased out of existence.
And he wont get back
shrewd dagger
Try reloading from right before CNPP
Clear Sky is just notoriously broken
are you using Sky Reclamation Project?
pseudo rivet
But yeah, as Saint Jester said, just reload a save
It'll be a hassle, but it's a fix non the less
shrewd dagger
CNPP is short enough at least
pseudo rivet
True
rare rain
playing pure vanilla and ive tired to reload saves but he wont show up, ill try to restart the game
well then he just left the game for good, looks like ill have to replay CNPP
shrewd dagger
you should've never played vanilla but I can't fault you for that
the game doesn't come with a big red warning label that says THIS GAME IS SUPER BROKEN UNLESS YOU USE SKY RECLAMATION PROJECT (and even then it's still somewhat broken, but a lot less broken)
rare rain
well then, looks like ill have to beat clear sky pure vanilla then
on master difficulty
pseudo rivet
Great idea
lyric forge
On SoC, I decided to go help the ecologist from the mercs at rostok, and upon success, I collect my reward at their bunker and head back to Rostok.
I ask barkeeper for a quest(Kill the mercs at rostok) and since I've already killed them the quest will not complete.
Any way around this?
shrewd dagger
You did not play attentively
That probably means a new group of mercs respawned there and you can go kill them
lyric forge
No, the one I visited and killed have despawned and yet none have returned since.
I'm not sure if I attended that area too early and may had to wait till I was given the quest.
slow sky
Yes
rare rain
Well then, now it's time to replay call of Pripyat and not vanilla this time.
shrewd dagger
replay, or play a new story mod?
rare rain
thinking of a new story mod but idk what one
shrewd dagger
Spatial Anomaly is highly praised, although everyone was disappointed by the ending
Valley of Whispers (with OWR 3 on ModDB) is short and sweet
rare rain
then ill try Spatial Anomaly, and thanks for the tips!
gaunt ermine
That actually reminds me I have to locate my CoP disk
lyric forge
Not sure how many care or pay attention to how artifacts look in any stalker, but it’s the smallest of detail that makes it cool to me. First I picked up my 5th flash artifact and was going to equip it, so instead of putting my Mama’s Bead artifact back in my backpack, I accidentally dropped it.
I then exit out of my backpack and just couldn’t help but to admire how cool the artifact actually look.
It was literally a
Walking artifact walking away from me just stumbling.
Idk about you, but that’s pretty cool to me, compared to the dead and boring zone in CoP that is.
gaunt ermine
Some are, others are sorta meh though. CoP definitely made them look nicer than the other games that's for sure.
Honestly I think the half-artifacts are the coolest part of CoP, seeing how the Zone starts to twist the world, man made or natural.
shrewd dagger
CoP didn't make them look nicer, they look the same as in Clear Sky
And some of them looked cooler in SoC, like Flash, Moonlight, Night Star
OGSE and NLC 7 do really interesting things with artifacts
gaunt ermine
Fuckin' moonlight.
finite dragon
spotlight uh moonlight
lyric forge
Yeah but have you seen the mama’s bead artifact on the ground? It just walks and stumbles! That was pretty cool with me
Also @gaunt ermine, no, they made them look dull just like the zone.
gaunt ermine
Idk about that just cause they don't glow visibly 24\7.
lyric forge
They illuminate the area around you in SoC pretty well. Idk it’s just the small detail that makes a difference to me
Although I do dislike the difficulty to obtain an artifact so simple in SoC for the most part. CoP nailed it.
Also @shrewd dagger what do you mean OGSE does interesting things to them? Mind elaborating for me on that?
shrewd dagger
OGSE has a lot of new artifacts and some are more mysterious, some even have tales /legends about them
one artifact is responsible for a disease outbreak, to give an example
and there is a side quest chain that spans almost the entirety of the game to find the fabled Klondike artifact cache
which you read about in journals
I was so disappointed how the Compass artifact in CS can't be used for navigating through space anomalies
lyric forge
Why is that? I thought it’s only purpose is to slightly increase your overall against all anomalies(according to CoP’s Compass, can’t remember what CS’s was like)
I haven’t played CS in 6 years so idk
shrewd dagger
the Compass is one of only two artifacts in the original games with a story behind it
It's stated that its main use is being able to let you navigate through space anomalies