L'Amour Toujours > any rap
#⭐┃nospoilers_general
robust forge
tired anvil
That wouldnt be a valid statement since theyre different types of music so yeah ur right
jaunty bronze
i personally think shoc is the best as well
it has great atmosphere, isn't too easy (for first time players), and also isn't overly complicated
i also really like the music in shoc
but clear sky's combat tracks are great as well
finite dragon
just bought the stalker bundle
tired anvil
have fun
finite dragon
i meant bugfixes
tired anvil
theres one for clear sky but i dont recall the name
tho i heard it changes things quite a bit
so id still say vanilla, not impossible to complete the games without mods
jaunty bronze
shoc = zone reclamation project
late bramble
the vanilla games really dont need bugfix mods
jaunty bronze
clear sky = srp
late bramble
theyre stable enough now and dont suffer from too many gamebreaking issues
jaunty bronze
yeah but the patches add some nice little things
late bramble
the only solid advice i can give you is to make more than one hard save
dont rely on 1 save
because save corruption can happen even if its not that often
jaunty bronze
i used a single quicksave throughout the entirety of shoc using zrp
tired anvil
never had a save corrupted
only saved in a bad spot
right before emission
in the middle of nowhere
gritty forum
I never got sabe corruption
tired anvil
well you also have like 1400 hours in stalker
late bramble
but you shouldnt rely on 1 quicksave regardless
tired anvil
sooooo
late bramble
its just a bad idea
finite dragon
k
finite dragon
So what does Stalkers fans think about chernobylite game ?
tired anvil
?
i havent played chernobylite so i cant say which is better if thats what youre asking
tired anvil
did not know that actually
dont you need to support them on kickstarter to play the demo?
finite dragon
I guess not but I'm not sure
jaunty bronze
you do
finite dragon
Will the devs get any money if I buy all games again on another steam acc?
void vortex
In CoP I found the Monolithians near the bridge in Jupiter. Whom should I side them with to stay neutral with both Duty and Freedom or doesn't it matter?
late bramble
even if you do everything you can for one faction the other wont turn hostile so it doesnt really matter. if you do all freedom hawaiian will give you better prices and you can exploit selling and rebuying the gauss rifle to him for infinite monies.
void vortex
Oh shid
late bramble
you get an achievement too depending on what side
void vortex
More so regarding end story tho btw
late bramble
i actually cant say how it effects the end because ive only sided with duty like a turd
tired anvil
it affects it
wait
nvm
you get the same ending no matter who you side with
unless you dont help them
late bramble
o rip
tired anvil
if only affects the story if you help them or if you dont @void vortex
@finite dragon technically yes
late bramble
there is one part where you can kill hostile stalkers from the opposite faction but i dont remember if it makes the rest of the faction hostile or not
void vortex
What mission?
late bramble
its a mission where you retake some area not too far from yanov station
void vortex
Max
tired anvil
ok
late bramble
if you side with duty they let you loot the basement
dont know what freedom does for you tho
imagine its the same
tired anvil
isnt there a mission where you and yar kill duty people
late bramble
no
void vortex
you can ignore that mission
late bramble
its mercs
tired anvil
oh
void vortex
you only get the duty/freedom suit
late bramble
ah
finite dragon
@tired anvil mind elaborating? thx
tired anvil
@finite dragon you asked if the devs would get money if you bought the games on a different steam acc, the answer is yes, they will
void vortex
It's worth it, you really have to pick how you're going about it. Siding with Bandits is also pretty fun and just fudging everyone over
finite dragon
great thanks
late bramble
i totally forgot you could side with bandits
its hard for me to be the bad guy willingly though : (
void vortex
My first run in CoP I actually sided with the bandits, knowing nothing about Stalker going in
I got ripped off before by Tuna
robust forge
Nice
void vortex
What does handeling even do in the upgrade system?
Is it that you can pick em out quicker?
HandlingEdit
"Handling defines how fast the weapon's crosshairs will center in-between shots.
Weapons with higher handling ratings allows their crosshairs to center back faster, easily allowing them to do follow-up shots with better accuracy.
This goes hand in hand with accuracy and automatic fire."
got it
tired anvil
means when you aim down the crosshairs
the little thing in the middle of the sights goes back faster
void vortex
less spread when rapid fire yeah
tired anvil
yup
finite dragon
Ok gamers let’s go
pseudo rivet
Handling also defines how fast you can move your mouse around
finite dragon
INSURGENTDUDE UPLOADED
peak garden
finite dragon
This is so awesome
spare umbra
is there some trick to taking out the first group of soldiers? even on novice it seems super hard
pseudo rivet
Getting on top the bridge and sniping with a pistol usually works
late bramble
I'm so happy insurgentdude uploaded again, and uploaded with something as based as OLR
that feel when @finite dragon was the only one to share the excitement
spare umbra
can i confirm for the starter pack repack you just drop everything and the .ltx file into the game folder? that's it?
tired anvil
np
finite dragon
@late bramble It's only us OGs that appreciate the true forms of art
late bramble
sip
I remember when insurgentdude used to upload often and not once every 9 months
shrewd dagger
Must have a job now
tired anvil
i dont follow him, but im gonna guess the 9 months is better since its more content/updates?
late bramble
I think he just got bored of stalker is all
There was a phase where he stopped uploading stalker videos and then went AWOL
tired anvil
maybe he wanted to go hidden and then just blast everyone with something cool
peak garden
Just got bored stalker 2 years ago
Send some help pls
silver arrow
-ban @peak garden
iron heathBOT
Auttaja
finite dragon
Gib RoH sauce code
silver arrow
you're welcome brotha
finite dragon
You aint going to make use of it anyways since youre bored
peak garden
solid dome
What, you actually banned this guy?
How dumb people tend to be spamming here
😄
Oh wait, he's a moderator
😄
peak garden
If u not choice faction, you name be white, Gajunas
shrewd dagger
racist
tired anvil
@peak garden yes and if you dont have the explorer tittle
peak garden
-ban myself for racism
finite dragon
If you don't choose a faction, your name will be white*
I don't know how discord works*
😡 Healthy grammar = healthy life
On that note I should actually go help out with revising the OLR translation
I finally found interest in stalker again woohoo
tired anvil
u helping it be lithuanian?
finite dragon
English
I'm one of the genies of the zone
Well at least was
Didn't do much work because I completly lost interest
feral verge
And remember: Grammar and spelling are important
peak garden
Oh, sorry
late bramble
No, I mean the OLR translation got an update recently
tired anvil
ah
finite dragon
It did
late bramble
For fixx 33.2 if my numbers are correct
feral verge
No need to apologise for grammar/spelling mistakes - Everyone makes them
The whole deal of correcting someone is to help them learn, not to be a prick )
finite dragon
Sorry for what? Our daddies told us not be ashamed of our mistakes... Especially since they're such good size and all... @peak garden
)))
peak garden
@finite dragon I don't know my father, bro.
finite dragon
Completely missed the reference and my deepest condolences((((
feral verge
Rejected ((
finite dragon
(
feral verge
I see that. Your daddy gave you good advice
tired anvil
stop typing and say something already jesus
feral verge
My daddy taught me how to not fight the 100 rads bar by using barrels instead of grenades
tired anvil
thank you
feral verge
Gajunas is making me type heeeeelp
late bramble
HELP ME STALKERS SULTAN IS FORCING ME TO TYPE ON DISCORD HEEEELP
tired anvil
then you again
tired anvil
yes and seeing you type then stop
tired anvil
)
peak garden
Hm, #💬┃en_offtop 
feral verge
But I was just about to tell them about my master plan to kill Barkeep using barrels
feral verge
Because you see, any NPC can be killed without consequence by using barrels, but many stalkers don't realise the potential that this has
(You weren't wrong, I'm just making this up now)
tired anvil
kill sidorovich, i dare you
feral verge
Every time someone who isn't Max mentions OP-2, I shudder
And I'm pretty sure some poor stalker becomes a zombie
peak garden
Me say
My broken middle finger remember that mod for all live
feral verge
One minute they're having a drink at rookie village, and then Rivet mentions OP-2 and he is suddenly walking the Yantar swamp as another zombie
late bramble
spamming that returner button
feral verge
I fully understand why he'd break his middle finger
OP-2 has that effect on well-adjusted human beings
tired anvil
i broke my f6 and f7 keys
late bramble
That mod requires so much finger work from all the parkour
tired anvil
oi
peak garden
@late bramble edit msg, pls
feral verge
Wait, you guys are telling me you didn't issue 7 warnings and a ban for the f word?
)))
peak garden
Stash on port cranes
My finger was broken
My friends laughing one week
feral verge
I actually had fun with most of the stashes, except for a select few
I absolutely hated that select few
My biggest problem was either the game breaking and despawning things or just the insane quests
late bramble
port cranes
oh my GOD i hate that stash
i spent like an hour on it
and i woke up my roommate from all the key presses
i type loudly
tired anvil
lmao what keyboard you got
peak garden
A4tech Bloody
late bramble
a pretty loud one
peak garden
But my oldest 2013 year pc now broken.
Want buy smth new, but, oof, don't have enough gold
late bramble
buying gf
tired anvil
laptop keyboard ftw
shrewd dagger
The only things a laptop is useful for are hacking and working on the fly
rotund cairn
hey, this might be a redundant question, but i have played a lot of vanilla stalker and i'm interested in getting some mods, do you recommend any? i only know of misery
south dust
Arsenal Overhaul 3 is what i go for usually when i want to get back to CoP... haven't tried Call of Chernobyl
shrewd dagger
CoP gets repetitive pretty quickly. For a fresher free play experience, try Call of Chernobyl along with addons like Arsenal Overhaul 3.1, Outfit Addon, Dynamic Faction Relations
Or try Anomaly, which is the same thing but with Misery integrated + some new additions + a newer 64-bit engine, along with Dynamic Faction Relations addon
If you want a new story experience, try Oblivion Lost Remake
finite dragon
hello
void vortex
I'm looking for the english in-game voices from CoP
for a video I'm making
does anyone know where I could get them?
shrewd dagger
from CoP's extracted files
desert oasis
I got call of pripyat
shrewd dagger
Congratulations, you are only 9-10 years too late depending on your region
but better late than never
desert oasis
what's wrong with getting a game years after its release
shrewd dagger
nothing
I was pulling your leg
We've all done the same thing for many games
And if not then we're doing it wrong
smoky pelican
just tried Call Of Misery and i can confirm that was teh most goddamn fun ive had on STALKER
shrewd dagger
the moddb page even says Call of Misery is discontinued I think
Last Day was a continuation of it, for which Dead Air and Anomaly are based on
smoky pelican
k o o ol
shrewd dagger
Of all these Anomaly is pretty much the clear cut king
smoky pelican
1/5 done w/ downlading anomayllllee
shrewd dagger
cool, and there's a new version coming out this year I'd think
1.5
very nice new features
shrewd dagger
the 1.5 beta isn't perfectly stable though, keep that in mind
but it's mostly stable
smoky pelican
mhm
shrewd dagger
and if your game crashes then you can just go back in and chances are it won't crash there again
smoky pelican
the main thing i look for in STALKER mods is the immersion and gunplay improvements
i enjoy misery for having increased damage and not being so easy
hence the name misery
F*ck
i donwloaded the update not the full file
naive jetty
Where can I get a soundtrack for the game? PDA notification sound, PDA SOS sound, and all sorts of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. sounds, not only PDA.
I want to add the sounds to Windows 10.
So when there's a notification I hear the PDA notification sound except the windows sound.
formal grotto
Dang, that's actually great idea :)
naive jetty
I'm jealous.
formal grotto
I'll do it too once I return home
robust forge
Wanna oggs?
naive jetty
I just want to know where to get the sounds.
formal grotto
unpack game resources @naive jetty
they contain everything you need
naive jetty
How do I do that?
formal grotto
There is an utility that can do it, just google "stalker gamedata unpacker" - won't miss it
naive jetty
Okay.
naive jetty
Thanks for the help, Comrade Cat.
shrewd dagger
I've found malware in some stalker database extractors
finite dragon
Which antivirus did you use?
void vortex
Protogent
finite dragon
Never used it.
void vortex
)
finite dragon
The only thing I've learned is that you should never use McAfee Antivirus.
void vortex
McAfee is legit awful
feral verge
John McAfee made a tutorial on how to uninstall it, I recommend everyone watch that )))))
finite dragon
Even antiviruses makes mistakes.
Last time it did a scan, AVG told me that it sees a virus threat.
It turns out, it was only itself.
formal grotto
Yeah, especially when they detect malware
feral verge
You use AVG too? Hot damn
shrewd dagger
yes that's why I used virustotal, and when a bunch of antiviruses detect something I'll just discard it immediately lol
late bramble
virustotal is pretty nifty
and yeah, i wouldnt be surprised if there are .db extractors with malware
funfact, there's a STALKER mod that's been on moddb for like an entire year now
and it doesn't even work, it's legitimately just malware
and it's still up
you can still download it
moddb is a good website right haha
shrewd dagger
I've found malware in several things on moddb yeah
is that a mod nobody has heard of?
late bramble
some people have heard of it
it came from reddit
it's called Zoner: Revenge of the Mercs
iirc
shrewd dagger
unmodded?
void vortex
Yes
tired anvil
clear sky maybe?
i had some issues with bandages in clear sky near the end so that wasnt too fun
void vortex
CS it is, I'm going to finish that game only using a Makarov
void vortex
I might record the struggle actually
tired anvil
make sure to send the parts where the table breaks
void vortex
Is that considered fair?
late bramble
oh gooodddddd
dont do it kev
i did SoC on master with PMm and no armor
its a nightmare
void vortex
No armor?
late bramble
its probably worse in CS seeing as how you dont have iron sights
yeah
sweater gang
late bramble
i even handicapped myself with the stone blood artifacts
late bramble
cus in SoC they do -bulletproof%
tired anvil
gl with no sights or aiming reticle
late bramble
i have a video of when i did it, i took on duty and freedom and made loners hostile at the end for maximum "oh god why did i do this" points
tired anvil
are you going to join factions @void vortex
shrewd dagger
reticle is for noobs
void vortex
there is not much use in money, so I don't think so
late bramble
CS is probably the hardest though without armor or upgrades, since you can't go for the anti-bleed upgrades
void vortex
Well, wish me luck
finite dragon
I have to agree that CS is the hardest.
feral verge
CS for me was a total cakewalk, ngl
I played on Master and I genuinely thought the game was too easy at times
SoC kicked my butt on Veteran though
finite dragon
Guess we're the opposite.
feral verge
Guess I'm just a weirdo. Everyone else keeps complaining about how hard CS is
late bramble
CS was my first and it kicked my booty in the swamps
shrewd dagger
all 3 games are easy
robust forge
Si
nova sluice
Eeeeeeh, isn't that English channel?
tired anvil
@void stone please keep away from spreading false information
finite dragon
Does anyone know why grenades in anomaly are so quiet
shrewd dagger
ask in anomaly discord
feral verge
It's pretty funny, because grenades are 10 times quieter than shots, even with the STCoP addon
shrewd dagger
I wonder if that's an artifact in their custom OpenAL Soft implementation
smoky pelican
i need dooty rank plis
gleaming ridge
I'm trying to learn 'he was a good stalker' on guitar even though I play drumset and my wrist actually hurts more than my fingers. I'll get it though, I have the first few chords down when playing note by note.
It is interesting though, the tuning for the campfire songs really does give the 'sad and calm but never happy' sound that fits these songs so perfectly.
gaunt merlin
i’m around ~2 hours into CoP and i’m having a blast
easily my favorite in the series thus far
south dust
unmodded?
gaunt merlin
yes
south dust
i guess yea for the first playthrough... although i went with Stalker complete for my first run of SoC...
gaunt merlin
only mods i’ve used thus far have been the reclamation projects
south dust
i've heard mandalore mention that mod... might try it after finishing my run with complete for SoC... for CoP... anyone here has any tips on how to make Misery tolerable as an experience?
gleaming ridge
only mod I've used first playthrough is zrp for ShoC. Was I lucky not to get a buggy CS or is it naturally less buggy than the first? Didn't have any of the problems people mention with factions.
gaunt merlin
i only crashed once in my entire CS playthrough
i can’t remember ever crashing in SoC
i may have
gleaming ridge
mine only crashed in the sarcophagus once in ShoC and when traveling once in CoC
gaunt merlin
i honestly haven’t run into any noticeable bugs at all in either SoC or CS
like maybe some i haven’t noticed
gleaming ridge
Maybe the ones complaining about the faction bugs in CS chose a really poor faction to join
gleaming ridge
I've heard people complain right from the start that the renegades capture objectives far too quickly and from several places at once.
I've heard people complain about bases being attacked minutes after defending it and leaving
I've heard people complain about friendlies never letting their guard down at an objective, effectively stalemating the quest.
none of these happened to me to an extreme degree
gleaming ridge
the times that the attacks happened all seemed honest and made me think about the choice of trying to run to save them or let the objective be taken. it was quite a sad concept for such a bright game
gaunt merlin
the only time i remember engaging in a faction war was at the Swamp. other than that, it was pretty pointless in my playthrough.
also, i stayed as a Mercenary the entire time
IIRC i only remember being able to join either Freedumb or Dooty
gleaming ridge
my first playthrough I stayed a merc because the leaders all said 'oh I have a feeling you should wait before joining' which just meant there were main quest lines that required good relations. I ended up beating the game so quickly I didn't get to go back and join
gaunt merlin
but i stayed on my own
oh i see
i wouldn’t have joined anyways
one because i prefer being on my own and two because i thought it’d be interesting to see how it plays out
gleaming ridge
my main issue with the game is that if you want to join a faction, you have to backtrack just to join. it should have changed the way that the main quest ran depending on your faction
gaunt merlin
so the rest of the game plays the same regardless of what faction you choose?
gleaming ridge
pretty much. it's why I chose to play CoC instead of mod CS
gaunt merlin
that’s pretty lame
gleaming ridge
all the same, the way they explained the ending to CS was lame and I needed to read up to understand what was going on the last 30 mins of the game
gaunt merlin
my main issue with the game is that if you want to join a faction, you have to backtrack just to join.
could you elaborate what you mean by this?
lol
yeah
gleaming ridge
for instance, after helping freedom destroy the merc tunnel, I asked the leader if I could join, but because I had to follow the main quest (which requires talking to duty members) he gave a response that amounted to 'i cant let you join yet. please come back later'. because you basically never have to go back to freedoms base again, it is more of a hassle to backtrack than to just finish the game
gaunt merlin
oh i get it now
yeah backtracking is just awful
it’s one of the things i hated most about SoC
doing side quests was brutal
gleaming ridge
Wait was SoC that bad? I might need to replay it with a CoP weapon mod because the base games bullet spread was absolutely aweful for the first half of the game
gaunt merlin
the side quests were really really bad IMO. they were mostly just fetching this or killing that. having to travel all the way back to the person you got the quest from (damn you, sidorovich) was a nightmare
back to Cordon we go!!!
gleaming ridge
I know I gave up on attacking the cordon military outpost because even after getting decent supplies I still dont think its possible to sneak in there and get the documents
formal grotto
Well, I'd say, SoC didn't had any side quests, just small tasks as part of a-life simulation
CoP had much better side quests
Though, I feel that GSC should finally get a decent writer
So we could have at least cohesive plot in Stalker 2
gaunt merlin
@gleaming ridge i just went guns blazing
worked out okay for me
just went from cover to cover really
@formal grotto totally agree!
i think the writing in the series is really subpar. i haven’t met any characters that i feel attached to.
gleaming ridge
the way the quest is worded made my think I had to go in at night and take it before getting caught, but I wanted an entire day watching the outpost for when the patrol was weakest
formal grotto
@gleaming ridge
Stealth is nearly impossible in original stalker games, I'd say
true crypt
🤔
gleaming ridge
it was there, just not super fleshed out
formal grotto
I think that NPCs got triggered every time you kill anybody in their close vicinity, even if they didn't seen it
gaunt merlin
stealth is serviceable, though not great. there are definitely a lot of BS moments where there’s no way you should have been detected
formal grotto
Which makes conventional stealth approaches nearly impossible to realize
gleaming ridge
anyway judging by the end of CoP, it sounds like they could have a decent story surrounding the gauss rifles in S2, and introduce more alien tech, but that's just my personal hope
gleaming ridge
where are you at right now?
gaunt merlin
i’m at the large beginning area and just got done inspecting the 3rd helicopter IIRC. i might start the game over again simply because i forgot to hit the record button on OBS which sucks, but at least i’m not too far in. plus, it’s just been fun all around so i don’t mind
gleaming ridge
alright. yes make sure to inspect all the choppers before going to Jupiter because it saves a lot of money early on
formal grotto
All I could hope for is just any kind of story that I could be emotionally attached to. Like even the Strelok/Marked One plot twist, which is probably the thing why all seem to prefer SoC story over others, never strucked any chord with me
gleaming ridge
I think SoC was more about the struggle of ending the ccon more than strelok personally, because his amnesia was just a clever way to let you play as yourself
gaunt merlin
@formal grotto same here! i was completely lost lol
@gleaming ridge for sure for sure
formal grotto
Well, I can admit that SoC had the most cohesive story, but it's just not enough. Stalker world deserves much, much better stories to be told
gleaming ridge
the first game makes the monolith and military seem very imposing (as well as the atmosphere.) the agroprom underground is still one of my favorite areas in the whole series
gleaming ridge
CoP did a good job of making the monolith seem broken, because they could no longer contact the ccon in that game
and not broken in a bad gameplay way, but broken in a 'why has God left me' way
formal grotto
Yeah, the Strider's quest
formal grotto
I would love to see a collab between 4A and GSC
gaunt merlin
instead of Artyom trying to make it to Polis, it’s a Stalker trying to make it to the center of the Zone
@formal grotto 💦
gaunt merlin
tensions between the studios?
@gleaming ridge the Sarcophagus made me despise Monolith with a radiating passion
gleaming ridge
dont get me wrong the sarcophagus was easily the worst designed area in the series but when you see pripyat you'll know what I mean
formal grotto
Not sure about the tensions, but he was very reluctant in letting go Stalker franchise in any hands except his own during 2012-2017-ish period
gleaming ridge
the first two games had very mediocre endings
formal grotto
There were tensions between 4A founders and Grigorovich though, I just don't know whether they're still holding a grudge or let it go
Like, he personally fired them GSC as far as rumors concerned
gaunt merlin
that’s interesting
Andrew Prof was with GSC i remember
then went on to work for 4A
founded it maybe?
can’t remember
formal grotto
Yep
gaunt merlin
@gleaming ridge i thought the pripyat area was really lame. there was no real indication or where to go. you just sort of awkwardly made your own path even though the streets themselves are completely linear. didn’t sync well imo
Andrew seems like a really cool guy
i like him in the interviews he’s done
very passionate it seems
gleaming ridge
I mean the CoP pripyat. the main quests in the area give a lot of insight into the monolith faction
gaunt merlin
AH i see
gleaming ridge
it genuinely made me feel for them for a while
gaunt merlin
they can burn in hell after what they put me through
Military are the only ones with helicopters right?
formal grotto
@gaunt merlin
There was a story, which occurred somewhere at 2006 I think, when SoC was in it's most troublesome stage of development. The team was getting increasingly tired and lost its morale and composure due to constant deadline shifts and lack of overall vision. During that time Andrew and sever other key GSC persons (like Oles' Shishkovtsov and Alex Maximchuk) were already planning their departure from GSC and started planning future Metro game while working at Stalker. Grigorovich didn't liked that so he fired them.
I'm not 100% sure that this is what exactly happened, but at least that's what I heard
formal grotto
No, he is not present in CS and CoP credits
He was already working at Metro series then
gaunt merlin
that means he left very late into the game’s development then
and went on to create another incredible series
that’s a win in my book
formal grotto
He left prior to SoC release I believe and he was in credits just as game designer, not as team leader
robust forge
Well, he left with most of the assets and an engine
formal grotto
Yeah
robust forge
I remember when I got scared first time I played metro since they used bloodsucker sound for watchers
formal grotto
Early gameplay demos of Metro looked really XRay-ish acturally
gaunt merlin
lol, not quite the same, but there is a similarity
robust forge
Well, 4A is just more closed and reliable xRay
formal grotto
perhaps
after all it's written by same people but with more experience
formal grotto
Yeah, but I think FPS are just not as suitable for modding as more opened games like Stalker
formal grotto
Yeah, and also considering the possibility of 4A working on something Stalker related...
I feel that with the direction Metro series goes this days, it's not unlikely that 4A will pursue to create a Stalker of their own one day
Like, I haven't played Exodus yet, but still it's obvious that it is much less linear game than before
formal grotto
I should play one day, at least because it actually features a city where I leave in :)
gaunt merlin
Novosibirsk?
formal grotto
Yep
gaunt merlin
AWESOME
formal grotto
And I'd say, according to screenshots I've seen, it is recreated really close to the reality
gaunt merlin
the city is so beautiful in Exodus
and the plot in the city is so so good
but that’s all i’ll say
😉
gaunt merlin
yup, there it is
finite dragon
Metro 2033 isn't too bad.
finite dragon
And they messed up with the whole epic games exclusivity humbug.
void badger
CS
shrewd dagger
2-chlorobenzalmalononitrile?
rotund cairn
virgin metro vs the chad stalker
gleaming ridge
the whole metro vs fallout vs stalker never made sense to me. they're three different game genres with good things and bad things about each of them.
haven't played either of the other games so I might be uneducated but
metro is a corridor shooter right?
and fallout is an rpg?
stalker is more of an open world experience with it's own aesthetics to set it apart from the rest
shrewd dagger
Exodus is not a corridor shooter
That is why I only compare Exodus to stalker, it takes after stalker in level design somewhat
gaunt merlin
only similarity between the two series is the setting
late bramble
not exactly, metro is post-apocalypse russia while stalker is just normal ukraine
shrewd dagger
Exodus has something like A-Life on mutants but totally lacks it on humans which really limits its gameplay, then has awful narrative decisions
gaunt merlin
@late bramble true. all they have in common is russia really. other than that they are just really different.
late bramble
ukraine isnt in russia :p
gaunt merlin
@shrewd dagger i thought the lack of A-Life on humans was fine solely because the game is linear (even with the maps being open). the humans are in their positions for specific reasons (the side missions and such for example). i thought the narrative was captivating (much more so than any stalker game). they’re not in the same league on that front.
formal grotto
Yeah, it's better not develop this topic or your're risking getting banned lmao
shrewd dagger
No you're not, we just have to move it to #561153946878607390
lean vine
finite dragon
@pearl spire That depends what kind of grills you mean.
pearl spire
preferably 60 x 40 cm, double decker, it doesnt have to be propane
Nah, i mean like girls in stalker, i really wouldn't believe that there is not a mod for that
there must be a couple
finite dragon
I'm pretty sure that the zone is restricted only to big strong men, but I think there are some mods on ModDB.
pearl spire
I mean of course, but maybe after disabling the brain scorcher and c-conciousness it can become its own little country inside Ukraine
Or whatever other bullshit mod makers can come up with
It would be interesting to see
finite dragon
Hmmm... It definitely would be interesting.
But other than that, it would also be cool to have the option to roast some kielbasa on a grill.
pearl spire
Delicious
I mean... Some rebar, duct tape (welding if you have rubles) and a campfire will do for now
finite dragon
Rebar to make shashlik?
pearl spire
To use as grill, I don't think rusty metal is nice for shashlik
pearl spire
Indeed, I wonder what chimera meat tastes like
finite dragon
The question is, how are you going to kill the nearly unkillable?
pearl spire
It's just a bigger snork... Jump to the right, easy
On second thought you need to fill it with bullets
They aren't very tasty
Hm
Gauss rifle? I never have actually killed a chimera with the gauss rifle
finite dragon
Rumour has it that once you have the Gauss Rifle, Chimeras seem to have the tendency to spawn.
pearl spire
I never really went hunting with it, the scope is too much zoom, especially for things like snorks and chimeras
And bloossuckers. Pseudogiants and brauers and controllers are easy though
Bloodsuckers, too
finite dragon
My first instinct is to run away from Pseudogiants.
pearl spire
My first instinct is to shoot it
And fight it
Oh I can't swear, oops. Anyways, then I get slowed to heck and I kill it from afar.
finite dragon
Always carry 2 cans of energy drinks to run away from tough to kill things.
pearl spire
Oh dude I had like, 20 cans on me at all times
Beard must've been concerned from all the money I spent on em
finite dragon
Just so you can "Fast Travel" in the zone?
pearl spire
I'm a simple man. If I can walk fast then I will walk fast wherever I can
finite dragon
Seems like pretty good logic.
Me, I'll just immerse myself into the world.
And learn of the struggle of suddenly running out of medical kits while wrestling a bloodsucker.
It's actually more of a knife fight, but, eh.
pearl spire
I just eat bread and sausage like a madman and hope for the best. And well yeah, I love immersing myself too, I walk carefully and just let the zone amaze me when I first get into an area. But after doing many fetch quests and traveling the same roads it does get a bit dull.
finite dragon
To be fair, it is a bit like that.
But nothing beats running into your first Snork when you go on that fetch quest for Snag to get his "Metal Box".
finite dragon
Little known fact, I just jumped down the crevice to get to the car.
And I knew full well that I will lose 90% of my health. So, just had to patch that up.
Then I was haunted by 3 snorks constantly jumping on me while I tried to shoot them with the starting Ak. It was... Very ineffective.
pearl spire
I already had one of those uh... Chaser shotguns, they did the work well.
But it still scared the heck out of me
Also the mission in CoP where you go to Pripyat through the tunnels and there's a million snorks was a religious experience for me
finite dragon
I didn't. When I started, I immediately ran there, confident that I was the alpha stalker just because I watched a slav man playing Dead Air.
finite dragon
That tunnel was my favourite place to be in. Mostly because it included Monolith soldiers with sniper rifles.
pearl spire
Most of the times
Oh yeah, monoliths, that was really annoying
Who invited those guys
Smh
finite dragon
At the time, I was pretty perfectionistic, so I tried to make sure nobody in my group died.
pearl spire
Oh I shot uh... Zulu on the foot by accident and he died in the first 3 minutes
Very sad
But that's life in the zone
The zone giveth, the zone taketh
finite dragon
Then you pick up his machine gun?
pearl spire
Yeah
It's not very good against snorks
Or I suck, one of the two
I prefer shotguns
finite dragon
Now I have to wonder how Zulu has lasted so far.
pearl spire
Indeed
After I picked up his machine gun the lt shot me on the foot because he was targeting a rodent
That led me to believe that the gun is cursed
Whoever holds it will get shot on the foot
At least in my playthrough
finite dragon
I actually shot Zulu in the head because his machine gun looked cool.
Then it suddenly disappeared when he died.
pearl spire
Cursed, I tell ya
finite dragon
I haven't played Call of Pripyat anymore after I finally reached the military, and Zulu politely walks away.
pearl spire
I finished it, currently working on sidequests in freeplay
finite dragon
I'll get to it eventually. Just remembered that I also want to complete Shadow of Chernobyl.
pearl spire
I downloaded that too... Hopefully I can keep my old save and go back to CoP after I'm done with CoC
finite dragon
Also, a man once told me that your game crashing is part of the experience.
pearl spire
That is 110% true
When I installed the game it crashed on the installer
Then it wouldn't load
Suddenly it was all good
Nobody knows what magic does the X-ray engine have, some people say the engine is an anomaly itself
finite dragon
Once, my game crashed so hard that it uninstalled itself from my Steam library.
finite dragon
Well, you're totally right. The X-Ray engine has a mind of its own.
It has yet to crash on my laptop, though.
But, it's already turning into an IL-76 after 10 minutes of playing.
finite dragon
I don't have too big of a gaming rig.
It can barely run Just Cause 3.
Especially at the lowest quality possible. And I still regret buying the game.
But, as for Call of Pripyat, there seems to be absolutely no problems. No crashes, smooth animations, nothing wrong.
finite dragon
The game itself? Nope.
But my computer choking and coughing while trying to run it at 800x600 with very low quality? Yes.
pearl spire
Hm... Sorry to hear that
Good thing stalker was made more than a decade ago
Simple to run, a lot more content than some modern games
finite dragon
That makes you wonder if it's possible to play Stalker 2 on it.
Oh, who am I kidding, of course it would.
finite dragon
Ehhh, it doesn't matter too much what a person's gender is here, except if you really want to know.
As long as you wear a gasmask and able to hold a pistol correctly, then you're already doing better than 20% of the people coming into the zone.
pearl spire
I don't really mind it much, but some people do so it's force of habit, like a social nicety
You right
finite dragon
Trust me, some of the things I've seen people do in Stalker are really downright insane.
Charge the military guarding the bridge with only a shotgun? While possible, it still is risky.
pearl spire
I tried that
So many times
Jesus
I tried using slugs too but the recoil made me do a 360 flip
finite dragon
I did that too often, until I learned of the anomaly infested tunnel to the left.
finite dragon
It took me 10 hours to learn that I could throw bolts.
pearl spire
Don't worry, it took me half a gameplay to learn that I could crouch lower
Which resulted in me getting stuck many, many times
I glitched myself out of those by leaning but wow it was annoying
finite dragon
Once, I got stuck in a sniper den on the roof. And I couldn't get out for 3 minutes.
finite dragon
I kept sprinting up the walls, leaning outwards, calling other stalkers for help, then I somehow just popped out of there, and promised to forever be careful of that place when it has a stash.
pearl spire
Amen
God I just want cute grills in my game, or boys, I'm open minded
Some sorta character customization that isn't CoP
finite dragon
Are you saying Sidorovich isn't cute?
pearl spire
I would let sidorovich do whatever he wants with me
But that's besides the point
But seriously, it would be nice to have a game like that. I can only dream
finite dragon
Another suggestion the devs might work on :)
finite dragon
Also, divine how you mean "Cute" in game. From a scale to anime to realistic, what would you have?
feral verge
New Arsenal has women stalkers everywhere
But they aren't cute as much as they are humanly disproportionate
They have the body type of a barbie and it honestly terrifies me
Also they are immune to anomalies in that mod, for some reason
pearl spire
Hm... I mean stalker is anything but cute, it's uh... How do you say, brutalism? It really doesn't have a place in the stalker universe. That's why I think it'd be interesting to see something cute in the stalker universe. I'd say cute is... Small, soft, pretty, etc. If I have to put it on a scale from anime to realistic... I'd say 66% realistic 33% anime.
Because stalker isn't /that/ realistic too
And thank you @feral verge
feral verge
Be warned though, I finished New Arsenal 5.1 on Master and I am doing 6.0 on Master too, and the aimbots are strong
Plus, even with the best exo in the game, guns will still shred you in very few hits
99% of the time you get shot once and you're dead
finite dragon
That's called realistic.
feral verge
That's what everyone who abandoned the mod halfway through said )
And no, an exoskeleton stalker shouldn't die to a shotgun blast from 5 feet away
That mod isn't realistic at all, but the gunplay is really fun
finite dragon
But, if the enemy's don't drop like flies just as easily, then I'd give it a pass.
pearl spire
I mean... It's still a shotgun, realistically it's hard to stop
feral verge
Plus it has new maps, guns and quests
pearl spire
Also that
feral verge
The enemies mostly die quickly, except for the exoskeleton Monolith
Who will tank an RPK mag to the face like no biggie
pearl spire
Monolith r dumb
This post was made by duty gang
Anyways @finite dragon that's my answer. Why you ask?
feral verge
Only MLGs like the PKP Pecheneg will do the job in the later stages of the mod
Good part is that the LMGs barely have recoil and they are really fun to use, plus the ammo isn't terribly expensive
pearl spire
Oooh
finite dragon
@pearl spire Because often times, people would love to have a kawaii girl in military uniform in their own games.
pearl spire
Nice
finite dragon
They did it in Mount and Blade, they can do it in Stalker.
pearl spire
I mean... Yeah having a kawaii girl in military is fun and all, fanservice is always nice
feral verge
But as I said, the early game is really goddamn hard and not that exciting, so most people just drop the mod out of boredom
pearl spire
But it doesn't have to be like that
I'll use Rainbow Six: Siege as an example that girls in uniform don't have to be "sexy hurrdurr"
They're... Just girls with uniforms, that's it.
finite dragon
That's what I mean.
feral verge
Idk why you're so obsessed with wanting female stalkers though
You're not going to be doing that much besides shooting them
open lintel
@pearl spire please edit out the swear, you can find it by typing in the S word in search bar top right
ty
feral verge
What would a feminine touch do? It changes virtually nothing
open lintel
your not wrong, well just end up shooting them
feral verge
Just takes extra work
open lintel
Im not against it btw
feral verge
I'm not for or against it, I just don't know what the big deal is
finite dragon
Neutral.
open lintel
MrMundy did you get rid of the swear, or could you not find it?
pearl spire
Oh uhhh
finite dragon
The mods are omnipresent as always.
pearl spire
Which... One? Sorry I must've missed it, lemme go through my messages.
open lintel
you can find it by typing the S word for poo, in top right
pearl spire
Ah, yeah, oops.
open lintel
ty c:
finite dragon
I wonder how they find these things that occurred nearly an hour ago.
open lintel
I go through the entire chat from new msgs I missed.
that and, search function is nice if your being lazy :p
finite dragon
I thought you guys just type in every bad word you know in the search bar.
Ah, of course :P
open lintel
I did that, and ended up cleaning alot of stuff
alot of old stuff, that was inconsequential to remove. just felt nice to make it clean. lots of bad stuff on the first couple days
pearl spire
I bet
open lintel
Don't let me interrupt tho :o/ if you need anything feel free to DM me c:
pearl spire
You ain't interrupting anything
Come, sit and have a drink, we're just chatting about the game
finite dragon
Of course, will let you know when I have anything on my mind.
pearl spire
As I was saying... I just think it'd be interesting to see girls, it's not impossible, just improbable
pearl spire
Yeah I think that'll be an afterthought or mod
open lintel
hmm, yeah If I had to add, Id like to see girls since ultimately it could be plausible. that and it was originally intended for females to be in the first games but were dropped due to budget.
feral verge
Play it, and you'll see that it is entirely inconsequential to the game to have women
open lintel
^agreed, it really doesnt matter tbh
finite dragon
Stalker girls shouting Cheeki Breeki Iv Damke would be pretty cool.
open lintel
If they have the time, and it doesn't hinder their progress towards stalker2, then I say go for it
pearl spire
Oh yeah, it may take resources and all, if they can't then modders can, like they already have
open lintel
did you see that "leaked" photo of stalker2 UI. (it was non-confirmed and im 100% certain it was fake)
feral verge
I remember Maxine posting it and saying that it could be a mock-up of an idea they had for an inventory interface, because Sergyi himself posted it and deleted it shortly after
pearl spire
And sure, if there was no Makarovs in the game it wouldn't matter too, it's not meant as a game changer, just some details to make the world feel more full and diverse
But yeah that's just my opinion
feral verge
But I don't know of anyone saying that it was a leak of STALKER 2
pearl spire
And no... I don't think I have
open lintel
oh was it confirmed sergyi actually posted it O>O?
this is what it looks like btwn
feral verge
I don't know what O>O means, but I'm pretty sure it was confirmed
open lintel
O>O <-- is a face c;
pearl spire
Cool
feral verge
What, Pinocchio's face?
open lintel
xd, more like a shocked face
open lintel
I mean in my personal opinion however, those icons look very old
feral verge
Interestingly terrible and clunky
open lintel
It honestly looks like a mod
feral verge
Look at how disgusting that interface looks
finite dragon
It does look very confusing.
pearl spire
If the interface is not clunky and confusing then I'll be sad
Because that's slav essence
open lintel
For a brand new game in 2019 (as far as the year atm) thats pretty much unexuseable
feral verge
I would put up a picture of that in their dev studio and tell them to design the exact opposite for their interface
open lintel
hopefully its just.. like a... template.
We could do with visual info such as the bars for armour, psy, rupture etc. but needs a huge overhaul
finite dragon
My school loves stuff like this.
open lintel
looks like a 2010 UI c:
finite dragon
Mostly because they can show what not to do when making inventory systems.
feral verge
You doing videogame design or something?
finite dragon
Second year in game art.
feral verge
My condolences, because I wouldn't want to work in the games industry right about now
pearl spire
I mean it shows what it needs to, a place for consumables, ammo, armor, artifacts, guns
open lintel
if that is anything next to the truth of the situation for stalker 2 (as far as the image) then I mean at the minimum one thing is nice, looks like alot of equipables. Armour, chest, exo/servo
pearl spire
Something about stalker being clunky is a part of it's charm imo
finite dragon
@feral verge I am planning on doing coding and music production as well, so I can just bully everything the indie way.
open lintel
lol
feral verge
I don't think bullying code and songs will get you far
I heard that code especially responds badly to provocation and heckling
finite dragon
I didn't mean it like that! XD
finite dragon
We are getting a wee bit off track here.
Now, as for the Stalker UI, I'd say that the older ones are easier to recognize, and I don't end up getting confused with why there are shotgun shells on my screen.
finite dragon
See you later :)
feral verge
👋
tired anvil
@open lintel it wasnt confirmed
it was posted by him
but wasnt confirmed to be stalker 2
feral verge
As I said, Max said it COULD have been a mockup idea or something
But as far as I can recall, nobody said anything about it being a leak or anything
tired anvil
yeah i agreed with him on the mock idea
probably mocking the people who want an inventory that is a mess
feral verge
Could also be that, yes )
finite dragon
Not exactly the meaning of a mockup, but I'll allow it.
still ridge
That’s disgusting
And hopefully fake
If anything, it’s probably something from the OG 2012 Stalker 2
Notice the logo,
That’s from the original
I mean, there’s a mix of the original trilogy renders for artifacts and meds, and concept art for guns and armor
Also strelok from SoC for the character profile
shrewd dagger
I want an inventory like Arma 3's except with slots for stalker related equipment like detector
still ridge
Yes
late bramble
@still ridge GSC already said theyre reusing elements from OG stalker 2. Plus, sergiy posted this picture on accident. Old/re-used icons doesn't mean anything at all since ya' know, it's just a mockup.
but still nothing confirmed
finite dragon
Might just be the old voice lines. At least just the cheeki breeki.
feral verge
I hope they don't include that line
late bramble
Unfortunately I can't find anyone but one other person who saw the post before it was deleted
feral verge
I just want the "Paluchai skatina!" line
late bramble
Theyre goofy sure but underappreciated
One of my favorite lines is from the bandits if you just stand around: "I'll just go find a prosecution lawyer for you to stay nothing to"
https://youtu.be/w-4aPanbzo8
3:30ish
plus the EAT A GRENADE
feral verge
"I don't like having a conversation with a gun in my face"
late bramble
I've been looking for one but nobody is talking about it
A few of us did see the post
nobody just thought to screenshot it
If I find a screenshot of sergiy posting it i'll share it
still ridge
^
tired anvil
like god that just makes it seem so fake
still ridge
Exactly
late bramble
well i dont think anybody expected sergiy to take it down after a minute
tired anvil
but you dont really lie so i trust you
true but still
people have nvidia graphics cards and things
so they can easily get it back with shadowplay or smth
late bramble
and idk what anybody else was thinking, only speaking for myseld
tired anvil
like youd think at least 1 person was bound to do it
tired anvil
if you view smth
late bramble
hence the search
late bramble
meh, i wouldnt be surprised if he posted an old mockup from 2012
its horrible regardless
and if it is a real mockup, i guess ill blame the western fans for begging for such features in the first place
still ridge
Agreed
finite dragon
Hay.
late bramble
yes i know
but why would he post that now, then delete it shortly after? makes no sense
shrewd dagger
he was drunk
late bramble
GSC did already say they were going to reuse plot elements and other assets from STALKER 2's original development
in some russian interview
iirc
tired anvil
well
if you remember
sergiy said he was disappointed with stalker 2 in 2011/2012
so maybe hes like
“yall should be happy i stopped this”
tired anvil
yeah basically
still ridge
That’s a good sign
Unless it isn’t
Because it could mean that he liked that it will be a cash grabbing scheme and be a P2W Multiplayer game
tired anvil
cash grabbing obviously because what stalker fan wont buy stalker 2
but asides that i think hes happy with it being, well a working game
at least i hope so
still ridge
Yeah
I wouldn’t mind if they used 2012 voice lines and stuff
I’ll be disappointed if it uses old models
That being said, I’m eagerly waiting for dev blogs about mutants and weapons and things like that
late bramble
theyre still in the design document phase if my memory serves me right
unless im thinking of an earlier interview
still ridge
Earlier
late bramble
they started working on design documents when they announced s2
no idea what theyre on now
tired anvil
@late bramble think you could get smth to back your statement up? not denying or anything, just always like to read on these things
late bramble
the design document thing?
late bramble
lemme find if i can find an article
tired anvil
really*
late bramble
though its outdated by now
still ridge
There was a reddit post that came out like a week after the announcement
@tired anvil
I can testify
tired anvil
not always
still ridge
I mean that’s the only source iirc
tired anvil
reddit is 50/50
late bramble
reddit is never good
still ridge
Reddit 5050
tired anvil
false
still ridge
Haha
shrewd dagger
Maxine is right