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tired plover
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in some use case it cheaper to buy 2 line then 1 with higher upload

pine comet
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lol, that's ISPs for you

tired plover
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oh tell me

pine comet
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I imagine it can't really help much with downlink, could it?

tired plover
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the priceing all over the place

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i had two spot i own that have same isp right

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one is 80$ one is 40 witch one fster

pine comet
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Let me guess... the 40

tired plover
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yup

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the 80 one get this only offer 3mbs

pine comet
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That's crazy

tired plover
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the 40 one offer 500mbs

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Mbs

pine comet
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Is one urban and the other rural or somthing?

tired plover
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urban one was 80

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rual was 500Mbs

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house hunting suck when they lie about what you can get

pine comet
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The heck

nova osprey
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Anyone got an idea why I'm only getting 500mbps when I just upgraded to 1 gig

unkempt kettle
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Anyone got an idea why I'm only getting 500mbps when I just upgraded to 1 gig
@nova osprey If you open up Task Manager and attempt to download something relatively large, are you using 100% of your internet capabilities while at 500 Mbps?

nova osprey
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Well here's the thing. I can't check that on my pc rn because my i don't have a wifi adapter on it yet. I get 500mbps on my s20 in the same room as the router

old vapor
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So you need an Ethernet connection

nova osprey
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Yes, I'm getting one this week

old vapor
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๐Ÿ‘Œ

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500 is a good speed for wireless

nova osprey
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Ik, but not what I'm paying for lol

old vapor
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I'd be legit surprised if someone got 1gb over wireless

nova osprey
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I've seen it

old vapor
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Well damn color me surprised

nova osprey
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Lol

old vapor
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Not even Linus gets that

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And he just upgraded his wifi

nova osprey
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ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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Guess I'll wait for the ethernet connection

old vapor
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Yeah

nova osprey
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My network also tends to just spike with poor performance. Everything will be fine and then suddenly, a discord message won't send, or if I'm gaming, my ping will randomly go to 500 or something

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Any idea on what's causing that?

old vapor
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My first instinct tells me interference

unkempt kettle
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Any idea on what's causing that?
@nova osprey Wi-Fi

nova osprey
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Wdym?

unkempt kettle
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Extremely inconsistent

nova osprey
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It happened back when I had an ethernet connection too tho

unkempt kettle
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Could be your provider then

old vapor
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Did you already try turning it off and on again

sturdy jolt
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I was having network ping spikes and then I remembered my antennas weren't made for 5g, switched to 2.4g, and no more spikes

old vapor
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Disconnecting and reconnecting your connections

nova osprey
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They were just here 2 days ago to check things out, he determined that I had a bad line and they replaced it

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No difference from what I can tell tho

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Yes I've done that @old vapor

unkempt kettle
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Replaced a bad line with a bad line? Sick!

old vapor
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Rebooting your devices and stuff lol

nova osprey
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How do I check that @sturdy jolt

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Router settings?

sturdy jolt
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No I had to buy 3rd party antennas bc I think accidentally threw them away first time around

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And they were made for 2.4ghz

nova osprey
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Its a stupid xfinity router too, might consider getting a better one even tho this is the best one xfinity makes

sturdy jolt
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So try using the other band from what you're using now

old vapor
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Lol do what Linus did

nova osprey
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How do I change bands tho?

sturdy jolt
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(2.4 instead of 5, or 5 instead of 2.4)

old vapor
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Go ubiquity

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Your router should display two wifis

nova osprey
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Idk what that means

sturdy jolt
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Router settings prob, mine displays 2 wifis

old vapor
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One should have a 5g at the end of one of the names

sturdy jolt
nova osprey
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I've been in the router settings before and I see the two different connections but only one of them is broadcasted

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Maybe I need to turn it on somehow

old vapor
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Yeah do that

nova osprey
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I'll try

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Weird. Supposedly they're both turned on

fringe gale
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anyone else has experienced ipv4 websites not working anymore?

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intermittently on and off but ipv6 websites always work

kind parcel
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๐Ÿ‘

wide vault
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limus

eager bison
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just

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no

sturdy jolt
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what

eager bison
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DDR scaling for DDR4 is a lie

sturdy jolt
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??

eager bison
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blue indicates proper scaling, thats the definition of DDR with the number, because DDR2 is twice the speed of DDR

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etc

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the red underline shows there is no such speed increase

sturdy jolt
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ohhh

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bandwidth wise

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I see

eager bison
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they just used better hardware to increase clocks

sturdy jolt
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I thought you were pointing out something with pre fetch and clock rate

eager bison
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DDR4 by definition isnt true DDR4

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its DDR3 v2

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this angers me

sturdy jolt
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ddr5 should be ddr4

eager bison
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no wonder the DDR5 - 8400 JEDEC spec seems so insane

sturdy jolt
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lol

eager bison
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i wonder if DDR5 will be 4x the speed of DDR3

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so they might be recovering

sturdy jolt
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we'll see

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imagine ddr6 being 8x ddr5

eager bison
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it should only be 2x

pine comet
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Usually ddr generations are 2x speed increases, but who knows

eager bison
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unless DDR5 isnt true DDR5

sturdy jolt
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lol

nova osprey
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Is ddr5 gonna have a different socket?

eager bison
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yeah, DDR4 isnt a speed increase from DDR3 at all

pine comet
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Probably

eager bison
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they all do

nova osprey
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Figures

eager bison
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its to prevent mixing dimms

nova osprey
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And to increase profits

eager bison
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you cant run ddr4 in any other non ddr4 board anyway

sturdy jolt
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ddr4 is just higher max right

eager bison
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yeah

pine comet
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ram is one of those things where backwards compatibility is virtually impossible

eager bison
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ddr4 is just DDR3 but with much better clocking capabiilties

sturdy jolt
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yeye

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better pins

eager bison
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so the dimm slot changes are good, not bad

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all they really do is move the key around anyways lol

pine comet
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voltage changes too, so it uses less power

eager bison
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yep

eager bison
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DDR5 doubles the prefetch buffer of DDR3 and DDR4

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but idk about clock multiplier

wraith steppe
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DDR4 already barely uses any power

sturdy jolt
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@wraith steppe wtf is that

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I can't tell what anything is

wraith steppe
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Blade from an IBM bladeserver

sturdy jolt
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I assume it's 2 CPUs on the bottom

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but wtf is everything else

wraith steppe
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yes

sturdy jolt
wraith steppe
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It's an ATI ES1000 gpu built into the mobo ya

sturdy jolt
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oh wait

wraith steppe
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Yes

sturdy jolt
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only saw the pcb after I zoomed in lol

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thought they were clips used to close it up

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150$

wraith steppe
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I mean, it uses 2900 watts with a full loadout of blades lol

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And only 4 are installed, more of an antique toy vs useful

sturdy jolt
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ooo nice a bios display code thing

wraith steppe
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A single ryzen 3900x will put this to shame

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Maybe even a 3600

sturdy jolt
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lol

nova osprey
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Wow lol

sturdy jolt
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you gonna buy it?

wraith steppe
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Lol no

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I have enough space heater hardware

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opteron

sturdy jolt
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10900k
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how much power do opterons draw?

wraith steppe
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Too much. 200-300 watts / chip maxed out

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140w / socket at 16 cores @2.7

sturdy jolt
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oof

wide vault
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watts

eager bison
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DDR5 decreases voltage to 1.1

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yay

wide vault
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smh why not 5 volt

pine comet
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Where did you get the blade?

nova osprey
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If I take one ethernet line and put it into a splitter to connect two computers into does that lower my speeds for each pc because they're both going through the same first cable ultimately

eager bison
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wdym splitter

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is it a switch or a hub?

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a switch will run both systems at the same speed of the ethernet line, but bandwidth will be shared

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a hub will do the same but slower

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well, it also depends on the type of switch or hub.

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basically, your network will run at the speed of the lowest common denominator

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@nova osprey

sturdy jolt
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same with ram

eager bison
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yep

nova osprey
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I dont want to share the bandwidth so I think I'll have to get another ethernet cable in here

pine comet
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That's a 100mbit switch. No like

nova osprey
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Mine is a gigabit switch its not that particular one. It just looks like it

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I think at least lol

eager bison
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whats the available bandwidth of your ethernet?

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a gigabit is not easy to saturate

nova osprey
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1 gig...

eager bison
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also, what are the speeds of your two computers?

nova osprey
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Wdym?

eager bison
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whats the max rated speed of your computers ethernet interfaces

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are they gigabit as well?

nova osprey
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1 gig for me. Idk about the other. Its my dad's macbook

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IMac actually

eager bison
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so if we assume gigabit, that leaves each computer with .5 gigabits to utilize

nova osprey
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Yes

eager bison
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thats plenty

nova osprey
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Ya,but not enough lol

eager bison
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thats 64MB bidirectional

nova osprey
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Ill probably just run 2 cables there

eager bison
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what are these machines doing tho

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just normal computer things?

nova osprey
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Me, mostly gaming and light workstation tasks. My dad, literally everything fathomable besides gaming lmao

eager bison
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like, when i download a steam game, it uses like 23MB/s max

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trust me, your first bottleneck will be the servers out on the internet sending you data

nova osprey
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Most likely

eager bison
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very few servers on the internet will send data to you at 100mb

nova osprey
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Good point

eager bison
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let alone gigabit

nova osprey
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Ya lol

eager bison
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unless you have your own server you or your dad are connecting to and maintaining, i wouldnt worry about it

nova osprey
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Alright then

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thanks for the info

wraith steppe
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A switch will let each connected device send full bandwidth at any one time

nova osprey
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Unfortunately, we're using both at the same time usually

eager bison
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but its still limited to gigabit

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total

nova osprey
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Ya

pine comet
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I mean, that still 500 Mbps even when both go at the same time

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that good

wraith steppe
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I mean, each port has a hard limit of 1 Gbps

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Depends on the switch's backplane regarding total throughput

pine comet
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That's an impressive switch

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1U?

wraith steppe
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Cisco hardware goes obsolete quickly, something that was $2k new can be found $100 on ebay only a few years later.

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Great for hobbyist/homelab folks

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1u ya

pine comet
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hmmmm

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Cool

rancid crystal
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nice

warped yew
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why are switches so big?

pine comet
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They can pass a lot of data

wraith steppe
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Bigger switches ObamaLaugh

green stream
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I am looking for a audio interface to be used with my mic, budget is around $100, i have a few ideas but i want others opinions. Preferably from bestbuy cuz i have store credit, if not that's fine too

merry goblet
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what mic

green stream
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blue ember and will be swapped ocassionally with shure sm58 i believe it is

merry goblet
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using XLR input?

green stream
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yup

merry goblet
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but i bought it from guitar center for 80 i believe

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its a mixer with a built in interface and it works pretty well

green stream
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k ill keep in mind, im also looking at one of the focusrite's

merry goblet
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that was what i originally wanted to get but they pricey lol

green stream
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they are

merry goblet
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my cousin talked me into getting the mixer cause more control over things

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what are you going to use it for

green stream
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replacing my interface and using it for a teacher to help with my sisters recordings

merry goblet
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what interface do you have now?

green stream
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a cheapo one, behringer um2 i think

merry goblet
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i mean it seems okay

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do you need more inputs?

green stream
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it's ok, but it has a bit of a high noise floor and not quite enough gain for some dynamic mics ive used in the past

merry goblet
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what do you mean by high noise floor?

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like background noise?

green stream
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there is a lot of white noise that comes in from the interface

merry goblet
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thats something i had an issue with too on mine but i had to play around with it to get it to stop

green stream
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i can correct some of it post for recording but i just don't want it being an issue

merry goblet
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but also if you're not live its easy to cut out, but also also you can try using the RTX audio encoding thingy

green stream
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i used it for a bit until it started bugging on me

merry goblet
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i will say ive noticed a huge volume and quality difference between XLR and 1/4 in inputs

green stream
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also i might sell this one for cheap to my sis

merry goblet
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xlr is better

green stream
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yeah 1/4" i've not had good experiences with

merry goblet
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same

green stream
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except 1/4" headphones are good

merry goblet
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i tried running 3 mics, one using 1/4 and i cannot get the sound quality to match ;-;

green stream
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rip

merry goblet
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it seems to be fine for instruments tho

green stream
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yeah i think it is mostly meant for instruments and headphones

wraith steppe
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If you're using an sm58 or similar dynamic mic, get something like a focusrite 2i2 3rd gen

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If you're going with a condenser mic, you can go cheaper, something like a behringer UMC202HD

bold forum
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i use a focusrite 2i2 for actual guitar stuff, and it's great. can't speak to using one with a mic though

naive sorrel
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there should be a channel for audiophiles

green stream
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yeah i might go with the 2i2, i just looked at it rn and it seems good

inner elm
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Good choice with the sm58

old vapor
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2i2 is pretty good

green stream
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actually tho, the motu m2 looks really nice too

old vapor
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Lol could also consider Schiit audio gear

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I hear their stuff is good

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Contrary to their name, yes

green stream
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do they sell interfaces?

old vapor
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Oh right they don't

green stream
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lol

vapid meadow
hexed wind
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here? @pine comet

pine comet
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Sure, why not. They don't really have a channel for this, and people don't really use this one that much

hexed wind
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oh ok

dusk wyvern
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@pine comet rip roles or new guy?

pine comet
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rip roles

dusk wyvern
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did you accidentally leave the server?

pine comet
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Nah, theo

dusk wyvern
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rip

warped estuary
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How does this, TP-Link Archer AX10 Wi-Fi 6 Dual-Band Router, compare to a, ASUS RT-AC68R Wireless-AC1900 ?
I assume any AX router is going to be better than my AC router. I just want to make sure it is an upgrade before I place my order. This is not the Wi-fi 6 AX router I would prefer to have, but I want to jump on the AX band wagon as soon as possible and I could get this cheaper model now, while I save for a better AX Wi-fi 6 router to buy later.

cyan spindle
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id stick with the asus for now. AX is definetly better. but would it be appreciable between those two models? at further ranges probably. but sitting on the couch with a laptop and full signal i dont think youll see any throughput improvement.

harsh palm
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who here likes the PS5 design-if not, the controllers?

harsh palm
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Supernatural? @pine comet

pine comet
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Yup

harsh palm
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Really it comes down to the better games for me. Both consoles will be able to run 120fps.

old vapor
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Sony should really expand to PC just like Xbox is

cyan spindle
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All i know is the current gen of consoles (which i totally skipped) is super old. Lord I cant imagine anyone still using a OG Xbox One

nova osprey
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I do...

cyan spindle
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๐Ÿ™

nova osprey
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I got a pc tho so its all good

cyan spindle
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think about how far back 2012 is. what is that geforce 400 series era. Lord that seems like a friggin abacus

nova osprey
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I also have a Xbox 360 lol

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That one isn't plugged in tho

cyan spindle
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ooph, the 360 scratched so many discs insert reference about it being a hip hop group

cold ginkgo
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simp

nova osprey
hazy linden
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can someone help me find a good hdmi switch?

opaque stratus
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i bought the GIGABYTE B450M DS3H and im not sure if could use it with my 3700x out the box, does anybody knmow if it comes with a most recent bios because if it doesnt then im screwed

inner elm
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Check to see if it has a no-cpu bios flash system

toxic river
sterile flame
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ios or android

warped yew
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oh god

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oh no

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another dumb argument

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here it goes

sterile flame
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lol

warped yew
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Windows phone

echo parrot
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ios if u want simple no hassle and android for more customization/experimental stuff

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ios also has better protection from viruses while android can get a virus from downloading something off google play store

warped yew
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lmfao imagine

echo parrot
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google may have made the store better now but I am not sure

warped yew
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haha lemme download this virus that Google allowed on their own store for their own operating system

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same thing can happen on iOS though

echo parrot
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yea it can but it is very unlikely

warped yew
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Apple usually takes apps off the App Store almost instantly if they don't like it

echo parrot
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according to google

warped yew
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yeah, you can get viruses by jailbreaking

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or at least it's more likely

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not because jailbreaking is dangerous, but it's really just another method for malware exploits

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(that's at least how I see it)

echo parrot
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ye

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I was gonna jailbreak some of my stuff then I saw it as not worth the effort

warped yew
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I'll probably jailbreak my iPhone 8 if I get a new phone soon

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wanna be able to run a lot of cool things lol

echo parrot
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did u see linus's video on jailbreaking easy?

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it was recent

warped yew
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I think I did

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it's old knowledge to me though

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didn't want the whole thing lol

echo parrot
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yea

green stream
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viwus

minor crypt
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i like the jailbreak

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allows me to run a rlly good android emulator for all the other stuff iOS doesn't allow\3\

warped yew
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that's why I kinda want two phones lol (one Android one iOS)

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Android for gaming and iOS if I'm doing any sort of media work (as well as a work phone lol)

green stream
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dew it

warped yew
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what's a good and cheap Android phone lol

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wait could I put my iPhone's sim card in the Android phone and have it just work?

wide vault
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maybe

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look at the LG G3

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real cheap

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good enough

warped yew
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ehh

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old and I don't need a second phone now

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but eventually for sure

cyan spindle
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the only potential issue with switching back and forth between apple and android is the iMessage feature that sends the sms messages to the cloud first. Allegedly its a bit of work to revert it back. that may have been improved recently though

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i like the motorola phones the Z phones are pretty cool. But im using a Motorola g6 that i dont hate. will be updating to the 8 though when my warranty runs out

glad echo
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this probably isnt the place to ask but do yall lads know stuff regarding audio devices?

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my headphones arent being detected in any program except device manager

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says its plugged in in device manager

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but not plugged in for control panel sound settings

green stream
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what headphones are they and did you look to see if there are any drivers required for them

glad echo
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hyperx could 2

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no drivers are needed for them

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and ive tried uninstalling and reinstalling just about all of my audio devices

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and anytime i try to trouble shoot just says theyre not plugged in

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and ive tried multiple usb ports

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shows in contrl panel theyre not plugged in

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but device manager shows that they are

thorn flame
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i'm a gamer

warped yew
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k

gritty badge
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Whats the best not expensive gaming laptop that's thin?

sturdy jolt
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Depends on budget

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Like we could point you to a 100$ laptop that can barely load YouTube because it's cheapest

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Or 2000$ laptop because it's best

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Just set a limit somewhere in your budget then we'll find things

true patrol
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My PC is just stuck in bios screen, help

merry goblet
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was it working before?

nova osprey
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Clear the cmos

nova osprey
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Anyone know if there's a way to increase the bandwidth of your wifi? I can't even play a game if my dad is working on his computer or someone is streaming something

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I pay for a gig btw

green stream
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idk much bout that stuff but some routers you can manage bandwitdh for devices

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gigabit?

nova osprey
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Ya

green stream
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weird

sturdy jolt
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Better router? More APs?

nova osprey
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Unfortunately my router doesn't have that setting because its supplied by xfinity

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APs?

sturdy jolt
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Access points

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Anyways

wide vault
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go into Network on the explorer and right click on the router

nova osprey
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I have a lot of devices connected at once but according to the management app only like 2 of them use more than 1% of my daily usage

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Wdym?

wide vault
nova osprey
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Ok gimme a sec

wide vault
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should be able to access settings on that

nova osprey
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I can't find that page your on. What section of the control panel is it under

wide vault
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not control panel, it's in explorer

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file explorer, Network

nova osprey
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Oh

wide vault
nova osprey
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I see it

wide vault
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yeemt

green stream
nova osprey
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Ok I'm on the router settings webpage

wide vault
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go ahead and look around just to see what all the settings are

nova osprey
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I've been in here before and am fairly familiar with it

wide vault
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my router is kinda old so some of the things on it don't work, like speed test, it's a flash program and it doesn't let me do anything

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ah ok

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I just discovered my router settings like yesterday peepoSadSip

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I couldn't figure out where to find it until then

nova osprey
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Is there a particular setting that you want me to look for?

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Oh nice lol

wide vault
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I could access my modem just fine tho

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hmm

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I guess something like "Media Prioritization"

green stream
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you can also get to it if you type in the default gateway into a web browser

wide vault
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yeah

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my router doesn't have gateway, modem does tho

nova osprey
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ya, ive looked into that before. Since it is a router provided by xfinity, it doesn't provide QOS/ media prioritization settings

wide vault
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oof

nova osprey
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ya

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might just have to look into getting a new router

wide vault
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my Linksys has it, but I don't want to touch it because it wouldn't make too much difference, and would sorta just make other devices have poopier internet

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6Mbps plan peepoSadSip

nova osprey
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oof

wide vault
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we could get a plan with Xfinity that is the exact same monthly fee of 55 USD, but it's 100Mbps plan instead of 6

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thanks ATT

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but for some reason nobody in this house is willing to do that

nova osprey
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neither one of them are that great. They'll both give you a good deal for the first year and then everything goes to crap after

wide vault
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yeah ig

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but the price after first year vs speed is a huge leap from ATT to Xfinity

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my internet is like my GPU, weak af peepoSadSip

nova osprey
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sad

wide vault
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neither would be satisfactory for even a decade ago

true patrol
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is a newer wifi adapter for a pc compatible with and older model router?

wide vault
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I don't see why not

eager bison
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๐Ÿ™

echo parrot
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lol

calm mural
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Yes

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Perfect

echo parrot
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its ever expanding so eventually ill get more memes

calm mural
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U need to add kappa Linus on there

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@echo parrot

echo parrot
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havent seen that one

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this one?

calm mural
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Yeeee

eager bison
#

i have a few to add to this collection

echo parrot
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ah yes

minor crypt
#

ah, yess

cyan spindle
#

Anyone have an opinion on ruckus unleashed APs being used in gateway mode vs being used as AP with an ubiquiti edgerouter x?

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i see no networking channel

wraith steppe
cyan spindle
#

i appreciate the link.

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i have a couple r610s that i got stupidly cheap on ebay to replace my r500, which didnt support switches on its secondary ethernet port. Well it did but the switches werent on the same lan as any wireless client. So i couldnt wire in my NAS and play stuff on my fire tv

wraith steppe
#

r610, nice
A man of taste

cyan spindle
#

2 of them for 140 dollars after shipping. like i said a ridiculous price

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im thinking i can just get rid of the edgerouter x entirely now. Im curious if anyones got any comparitive experience between the two, unleashed gateway vs edgerouters.

minor crypt
#

o

wraith steppe
#

I think those serve different purposes. I used an ER-X for a bit, decent unit for the price, but not powerful enough for 1000/1000.

cyan spindle
#

right, i dont even have that. 350/20 cable. no fios in my area. At this point its probably bringing the property values down. lol

wide vault
nova osprey
#

Anyone have a good gigabit router suggestion?

tawny scroll
#

Does anyone know of any cheap servers I can buy? Iโ€™m trying to build a homelab and build a few applications for said servers.

eager bison
#

older dell poweredges are cheap

#

shipping on ebay is bad, so dont buy there

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and you would be suprised what you can find on craigslist

bold forum
#

definitely craigslist, pretty common for IT depts to dump old hardware there

eager bison
#

heres a good example lol

bold forum
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jeez lol

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if i was local, i'd get that just cause

eager bison
bold forum
#

figure out what to do with it later

eager bison
#

and then you would get 2 of these

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slap em in there

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and youre off to the races

#

well, actually, the W xeons are workstation versions

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sooooooooo

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you would get the X5570

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for just as cheap

bold forum
#

i 've really wanted to build a whole rackmount system for my house, but i don't have a solid enough use case

tawny scroll
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Sounds like a plan.

bold forum
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cause some of that hardware is so tempting at the prices

tawny scroll
#

Welp, there are server chassis on Amazon for the prices of normal cases.

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At least 1U chassis.

old vapor
#

what would you use a server for at home?

green reef
#

A home server

#

ba dum tiss!

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sorry, felt funny, might delete later

nova osprey
#

Lol

cyan spindle
#

Ruckus r610 unleashed doesnt appear to support ipv6 in gateway mode even on the newest 200.8 firmware. If someone knows better for goodness sakes tag/DM me. Looks like im back to the er-x for now. May just pick up the er-4. But im not impressed with the whole passive 24v "POE" thing

tawny scroll
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@old vapor, Iโ€™m building it for a homelab and application development

old vapor
#

oh, cool!

nova osprey
#

Ok so, I just got a new router today, and I have a ethernet connection from my pc straight into the router. I pay for 1gig and am only getting 10-20mbps, even tho my dad gets 900 on his imac. I have updated windows, installed the latest lan drivers, and tried multiple different wires. I also did a bunch of settings changes that google said to do but it was not helpful

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anyone got any ideas?

eager bison
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MBps or Mbps

nova osprey
#

Lemme check sassy

eager bison
#

737Mb looks good to me

nova osprey
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Mbps

eager bison
#

Oh, that's on your phone lol

nova osprey
#

Ya that looks amazing, but thats my phone on wifi. My pc on ethernet gets 20

eager bison
#

Does your PC support gigabit?

nova osprey
#

Yes

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It supports 2.5 gigabit lmao

eager bison
#

Is your dad's iMac on the same router?

nova osprey
#

yes

eager bison
#

So you both have a gigabit lan connection, so it's either a configuration issue, or a physical issue with your hardware from the Ethernet cable onwards. You said you tried a different cable?

nova osprey
#

yes, i tried multiple different cables

green stream
#

only 40 upoad

nova osprey
#

ya ik but i don't really care about upload tbh

eager bison
#

Well, your getting a connection at the least, so either your router and Ethernet interface are autonegotiating 100mb, or something is hogging your bandwidth at the same time you try to run a test

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I would check your NICs driver, and check to see if the connection shows up as gigabit under the interface settings

nova osprey
#

I doubt its bandwidth, because as i said, this router is brand new and we don't have many things connected to it yet, plus it supports up to 2.5 gigabits max

#

how do i check my NICs drivers

eager bison
#

Device manager

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And open your list of network devices in control panel

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Right click the Ethernet interface

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Click properties, maybe... I'm on my phone rn so I can't tell you exactly how to get there

nova osprey
#

aight, np. what am i looking for in the properties

eager bison
#

There's a tab that shows you total packets sent and received

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As well as the connection speed of the interface

nova osprey
#

one sec

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found it

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this is what your looking for correct?

eager bison
#

Yes

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So it autoneg a gigabit

nova osprey
eager bison
#

So from a hardware standpoint, it looks good

nova osprey
#

im assuming thats the problem

eager bison
#

DNS server connection isn't really what would cause slow speeds

nova osprey
#

crap

eager bison
#

Altho, if your using discord rn, your DNS server connection must be fine lol

nova osprey
#

ok then

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sooooo

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any other ideas?

eager bison
#

Try downloading a steam game

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A nice big one

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Watch the download speeds

nova osprey
#

i don't have steam on this pc

eager bison
#

Hecc

nova osprey
#

but i just updated valorant yesterday and the speed was like 1mbps

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it was only a 1 gig update but it took forever

eager bison
#

We need to get data from a source that can supply it at faster than 100Mb

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I can only think of steam

nova osprey
#

uhhh i think i have the epic games launcher

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lemme check

eager bison
#

Oh, yeah

nova osprey
#

ya i do

eager bison
#

Download fortnite lol

nova osprey
#

aight gimme a minute i don't know my credentials

eager bison
#

Ok, i actually gtg, so I might be back in like 20 mins idk

nova osprey
#

aight

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np

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uhhh frick

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fortnite is installed

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lmao

#

forgot i did that

#

what if i install a creative cloud software? @eager bison

green stream
#

fotnite is slow

nova osprey
#

wdym

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just did another valorant update

#

probably went about 3mbps

thorn gulch
#

@nova osprey I'd connect PC directly to modem to remove the issue of the router

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then if issue is still there find a laptop or smth with RJ45 port and connect the laptop instead of the desktop, to check cable

nova osprey
#

Its a 2 in 1 modem router

#

Also I did check the cable with a laptop and it was 800mbps

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However, I have good news lol. I switched the port that the ethernet was plugged into and am now getting 200mbps

#

I don't have a single idea why that worked but it did so thanks for all the help

#

I do pay for a gig so I might still trouble shoot this passively to get more speed but for now im content because i can actually play games lol

green stream
#

answer: buy a mac like your dad NYEHE

inner elm
#

Oof, please no

nova osprey
#

Id rather have 200mbps and have a good computer than have 900mbps and have a bad computer

wide vault
#

๐Ÿ˜”

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Wish I had either peepoSadSip

sturdy jolt
#

Yes

nova osprey
#

Sad

warped yew
#

@nova osprey yes. single-player gang

nova osprey
#

Wut

nova osprey
pine comet
#

I think those are just speed indicators or something

eager bison
#

It varies, but typically, green off means 10mb, solid green means 100mb, and blinking green means 1000mb

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And the Amber light is just the activity light

nova osprey
#

What about yellow?

#

Oh

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Ok then thanks

wide vault
#

Is the cable Cat5 then?

proud current
#

So I have an internet switch coming in soon and I am wondering - can I use the Ethernet ports on both the router and the switch at the same time? Or can I only use the ports on the switch and the routerโ€™s ports donโ€™t work?

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Because if I can use both the switchโ€™s ports and the routerโ€™s ports Iโ€™m planning to connect the switch to inbetween two rooms and still use the routerโ€™s ports for things that are already connected

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R = router
S = switch
Each unlabeled box is a device connected to the internet

#

Is that possible?

wide vault
#

I don't see why not

green stream
#

yeah I'm doing a similar setup even with maybe 15-20ish devices connected to the switch

wraith steppe
#

You can use both sets of ports

tender jetty
#

Ethernet cable ftw

proud current
#

It works

red shell
#

Anyone here ever use a elgato gaming capture hd60 card?

nova osprey
#

357 upload dang

sharp fossil
#

Whoโ€™s good with networking? On one of my PCs I top out ~630 down. On my other machine Iโ€™m getting ~945 down. Both are on same router with cat5e cable. Tried switching their cables no change. Tried changing some of the device settings and it goes slower....

eager bison
#

what cpus do these systems have

sharp fossil
#

The one going slow is a TR 3970x the fast is a ryzen 2700x and can turn on a 2700k that also gets the same speed down.

pine comet
#

Nice ping

sharp fossil
#

Yeah fiber is nice, I just want this pc to take full advantage like the others are

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The wired ports will be used to replace an aging dlink gigabit router that runs all the ports in the house (4 bedrooms, office, living room, kitchen, and entertainment area). And all those rooms have some kind of device plugged in

lethal gorge
#

I'd suspect some sort of inbound filtering (browser extensions, antivirus, something) that's actually throttling the one computer. Anything different between the two in that regard?

sharp fossil
#

Nope both are running same av and only have some developer extensions installed in chrome

wraith steppe
#

Probably just a speedtest issue. Try fast.com, if that doesn't max it out, just queue up a ton of linux torrents, centos 8 is a solid 8GB

#

If you want to test local speeds, use iperf

coarse whale
#

@red shell i use an internal one

red shell
#

I have a external one

coarse whale
#

oh

#

well then you will probably get more input lag

red shell
#

I have a Xbox one not a computer so yeah

remote harbor
#

So I found this in a box on the dumpster behind an at&TV does anyone know how to get rid of that wallpaper thing so I can use the phone or am I out of luck?

#

From the outside it seems fine so I was hoping to make it my daily driver

#

The buttons on the sides do not push in, just found out

pine comet
#

You could try rooting it

remote harbor
#

Meaning what exactly?

#

Also incase I didn't say so the phone isn't on

#

Its a display model

merry goblet
#

display model as in the screen is always looking like that and isnt actually a screen?

#

if so its probably a dummy phone

remote harbor
#

Ah, well that's sad then, it doesn't seem to be empty cuz it has its weight

merry goblet
#

if you got the tools, open it up

remote harbor
#

I do not lmao

merry goblet
#

lol usually those phones are just to show what the phone looks like and dont actually have any function

remote harbor
#

Ah well that's why it was in a box of similar ones on the trash

merry goblet
#

sorry man

remote harbor
#

My Hope's of a free flagship phone are gone

merry goblet
#

well i mean theyre expensive and the display models that work can be sold so they wouldnt just throw em away

pine comet
#

Try rooting it. You might be able to get something out of it

#

It might have been thrown away because o the buttons

merry goblet
#

bob there is no screen

#

it has a fake wallpaper thing

#

im pretty sure its just a fake phone

nova osprey
#

S8 isn't that expensive anymore on ebay

#

Should be able to get one for under 100 bucks iirc

wraith steppe
#

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โ–ถ Play video
#

How to overclock your microwave

eager bison
#

yooo

#

i have one of those on my desk

wraith steppe
#

Careful with that lol, that prink ring makes some really toxic dust if it ever breaks.

#

Cool desk ornament though.

digital niche
eager bison
#

i would avoid buying from third party sellers on newegg

#

especially one with a 46% rating

#

but, if you must know, each base is rated for 12v @ 1600mA

#

you can find a universal power adapter for that

mighty whale
#

ight look what i got

green reef
#

Took me a literal month to get a power supply to repair friends computer ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

mighty whale
#

@green reef it was suppost to come 11th i got today 2 days LMAO

green reef
#

Nice!

warped yew
#

suppost

mighty whale
#

in did suppost

thin nimbus
#

I need to know if the Crucial 64GB Kit (32GBx2) DDR4 2666 MT/s CL19 SODIMM 260-Pin Memory - CT2K32G4SFD8266 is compatible with the 2019 27' iMac

cyan spindle
#

best people to ask would be Crucial customer support.

old moss
#

Or Apple

thorn gulch
#

Feel like Apple wouldn't know what they're doing and probs just say that either you can only buy from them or that anything is compatible

livid wolf
#

Yes

minor crypt
#

actually no

#

apple is rlly helpful when it comes to upgrades

#

they say that whatever you buy from them is going to work, but they also give lots of suggs about other products that also work

sharp fossil
wraith steppe
#

๐Ÿ˜ฆ

sturdy jolt
#

dayum

pine comet
#

Is that the PS6?

sharp fossil
late token
#

i get 8 Chef_Kiss

tawdry nymph
#

hi losers

thorn gulch
#

hi winners

sharp fossil
#

Yeah the Wi-Fi on it seems to not be fast at all. Am not happy. Ax mode tops out at 300mbps on 5ghz from 2ft away

wraith steppe
#

Is your device wifi -ax capable?

sturdy jolt
#

ye

#

is the wireless adapter ax capable? @sharp fossil

wraith steppe
#

AKA wi-fi 6

#

The IEEE standard is 802.11 ax

sharp fossil
#

Yes have multiple ax compatible devices. Wife and I both have iPhone 11 Pro Max and my TR pc has it built in and my wifeโ€™s pc has a wifi6 add in card (needed Bluetooth but got both). All devices wonโ€™t go over 300. Older ac devices are getting 190mbps.

sharp fossil
#

First thought it was because I put it in the basement where the fiber comes in and set it up as an access point and it just didn't like going through the floor but when down there same issue. Also moved it up to the office to troubleshoot and same thing, right next to a receiver it won't go over 300

#

Have tried putting it in just b/g/n mode, just ax mode and b/g/n/ax mode nothing changes the speeds

#

I changed the channels manually and set the width and still no improvements

wraith steppe
#

Channel width would've been my first guess, weird.

last jewel
#

How does one have enough money for a Threadripper

violet oxide
warped yew
#

@last jewel job

sharp fossil
#

Being a developer or graphics artist at the top of your game you typically get paid well.

old moss
#

Theft

warped yew
#

what

#

it's called freelancing lmao

#

unless you're working for a company doing that

sharp fossil
#

Eh freelance can backfire as well make too much $ and then you owe Uncle Sam way too much and like now so many people on the market have to battle it out for the jobs.

warped yew
#

Ah, didnโ€™t know that

verbal valve
#

man this sucks, i leave my home for four days and make sure my laptop is powered down so that nothing happens to it, lo and behold i come home and one of the usb ports isn't working

#

you guys know what i could do other than send it in for a new one?

#

it's a 3.1 type A

#

it was working before and all of a sudden now it's not working

warped yew
#

Did you turn it off and back on?

#

It shouldnโ€™t just stop working because you left it on all day

verbal valve
#

i left it OFF for 4 days unmonitored

#

i don't know how it could just stop working like that

#

i went into device manager to see maybe it's driver was broken, the software seems to think it's fine

warped yew
#

Try turning it off and back on

verbal valve
#

i tried restarting a few times

#

didn't work

inner elm
#

Are you sure it was untouched? You can open it up to see if it is physically damaged

verbal valve
#

i'm quite sure it was untouched unless someone someone who came into my house and was careful of it

#

i'll open it up and see but i can't right now

cunning crest
#

can someone help

#

๐Ÿ˜„

gusty plover
#

hello everyone. I have a question about hdmi matrix switchers and video walls. i have 4 55" 4k tvs and would like to be able to have a video wall setup but also be able to display 4 separate outputs. i cant seem to find a product the does this. specs im looking for: 4 inputs, 4 outputs, 4k @60-120hz, 2x2 video wall. any suggestions? thanks!

pine comet
#

Each monitor is 4k, or the overall wall is 4k?

gusty plover
#

each monitor is 4k

pine comet
#

What will you be displaying that you need 120hz?

gusty plover
#

appletv and blueray is capable of 120

#

or so the settings say that

pine comet
#

So this will be for videos and movies?

gusty plover
#

video movies and possibly gaming

pine comet
#

What GPU will you be running?

gusty plover
#

console gaming

pine comet
#

You're not gonna hit 120 on that with a console. You'll be lucky if you can get 60

gusty plover
#

nevertheless i dont think there is a 120hz video wall, switcher out there on the market

pine comet
#

There probably are, they're just not gonna be cheap

gusty plover
#

i have been searching and searching and havent found one. i willing to settle for 60hz if the product can produce output from 4 inputs and also capable of video wall output

pine comet
#

Do you need all four of the separate inputs to be displaying simultaneously

gusty plover
#

no not simultaneously. 2 main configurations im looking for is video wall and 4 source 4 tvs/monitors

pine comet
#

Do all of the devices you'll use have at least two video outputs?

gusty plover
#

no sir

pine comet
#

Darn

#

It sounds like you might need some sort of bizarre reverse kvm switch

gusty plover
#

weird what happened to the link

#

4K/UHD HDR 4X4 18Gbps Matrix Switcher with Auto Downscaling and RS-232/IP/Cloud Control

pine comet
#

You can post links until you've talked for long enough

gusty plover
#

like that

#

i basically need that with video wall capability

pine comet
#

If you take the http part of the beginning, you can get the link through the filter

gusty plover
pine comet
#

This seems decent

gusty plover
#

im looking for those specs but with video wall cap but cant seem to find it anywhere

#

i found an 8x8 but the price jumped to $4k

pine comet
#

video walls are hard to run

gusty plover
#

processing is definitely much more difficult than just a switch and split since just signal routing

pine comet
#

The swicth will have to do some processing of it's own

#

The video comes in as one monitor. The swicth needs to decode that signal, break it up into four parts, and then re-encode each of those parts before sending it to each of the individual displays

pine comet
#

I use seven dollar amazon headset. You don't want my advice

verbal valve
#

i'm confused, why isn't my laptops gpu running any displays??

#

it mentions something about a usb-c driver, should i be connecting a display to the usb-c?

eager bison
#

thats just how its configured

#

the 1660ti will sit dormant until you use a program that will use it

#

so right now, the display is running off the amd iGPU

#

to save power

pine comet
#

Laptop graphics are really weird

eager bison
#

your external display connects to the HDMI port, which runs off the iGPU as well, but that might not switch over when you launch a game or program that will use it

#

yes, very confusing

thorn gulch
#

also I find usually the protocol for the GPU to internal monitor is usually DP

pine comet
#

One of the reasons you don't use Linux on nvidia laptops

verbal valve
#

Using windows

#

Also trying to use GeForce experience bluescreened me

#

I forgot to read the error because of the distant I felt

#

Distain*

craggy flintBOT
#
Haxโ„ข#5840 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

verbal valve
#

I koโ€™d my computer and factory reset it

#

Screw it

#

It bluescreened, I tried opening GeForce experience again and there was an error with the program so I was fed up and reset my laptop, itโ€™s erasing all the files right now

#

I got the laptop less than a week ago btw

#

And one of the usb type aโ€™s doesnโ€™t work

#

What a piece of trash

eager bison
#

return it

verbal valve
#

Iโ€™m thinking of doing it but then Iโ€™ll 100% be out of a computer for 1 week at least

#

It took 3 weeks for to even come

old vapor
#

But it's already so broken

verbal valve
#

Yeah

#

Amazon screwed me lol

old vapor
#

oof dude

#

still i say return it

#

that's ridiculous

verbal valve
#

Yeah

#

Iโ€™ll make some calls tomorrow

#

I wanted to build my own pc but things turned out that I couldnโ€™t and I needed something quick, I go for this laptop for itโ€™s battery and it takes 3 weeks to come in and breaks in a week

#

Great times

#

Forgot to mention that for no given reason my external monitor goes blank for 3-5 seconds at random intervals

calm mural
#

Download the windows recovery from there website and install it onto a flash drive, then boot to usb. This literally happened to me less than a week ago

#

@verbal valve

#

It was also a brand new computer

#

There was a specific driver crashing everything, had to just put it on the block list

verbal valve
#

Ok.. what driver was it? @calm mural

verbal valve
#

i'm using a latop and i downloaded the 16 series non notebook

warped yew
#

Possibly

green stream
#

don't laptops have the drivers downloaded automatically?

#

also most laptops use optimus to switch between integrated and discrete graphics depending on the situation

verbal valve
#

they do download it automatically but the one i got was outdated

#

i'm still wondering what that one drive is that was breaking everything. Bc one of my usb ports isn't working and i'm not sure why. i don't know if doing a fresh install of windows will fix that

mystic hawk
#

What model artistander?

indigo flare
#

Hey guys, Dumb question, Ik, But I need to get a new laptop charger, I dont want to lug around my cord from work to home each day. I bought one on Newegg, but it didn't even fit, so obviously it's not where my skills lie.

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Oh, let me transcribe that

#

MSI GF65

#

the charger reads:

mystic hawk
indigo flare
#

Chicony, a15-180P1A REV 05 UP/N A180A005L AC input 100-240 V 2.5 A 50-60 Hz DC OUTPUT

mystic hawk
#

That's a marketplace item

#

So not actually sold by newegg

indigo flare
#

Yeah, The only part that scares me is the non brand name charger, it's a $1,250 laptop, I'd hate to go offbrand and fry something.

mystic hawk
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I would suggest contacting MSI

indigo flare
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ahh, Good idea there.

mystic hawk
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They can probably direct you to a verified after market vendor or give you another route.

indigo flare
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thats brilliant. never would have thought of that actually. Thank you.

mystic hawk
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I will say I've been using third party chargers for a long time on laptops and have not had issues, but my laptops are cheap.

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Good luck!

cyan spindle
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i wouldnt buy a 3rd party charger off any kind of "market place". email MSI customer support,like was mentioned, or find a used one off ebay from a private seller. Bootleg chargers are real and they are super duper dangerous

calm mural
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@verbal valve 1 sec ill find it for you

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@verbal valve AMD GPIO Controller version 2.2.0.115

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^^^^^evil

verbal valve
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i'm doing something rn i'll check it out in like 2 mins

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20

verbal valve
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@calm mural where can i find that

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in device manager?

calm mural
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not sure. it was on my update list, i had to block it from trying to update

nova osprey
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Wow xfinity is just the worse

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I was fiber or starlink but neither are available for me peepoSadSip

pine comet
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What the heck is that

sturdy jolt
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sped test

pine comet
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Yah

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The speeds though

sacred shard
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Why is your upload speed so high and your download speed practically nothing?

nova osprey
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I would like to know the answer to that aswell

sacred shard
nova osprey
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What makes matters worse is, I pay for a gig

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Please react with that face palm emoji forks ROFLEgg

sacred shard
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Have you tried contacting your ISP?

nova osprey
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Yes

wraith steppe
nova osprey
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Theyre sending someone sat. I've had so many issues lately and it was the best it had been but then they had a 6 hour outage today and its been like this ever since

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Ty

wraith steppe
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What modem/router?

nova osprey
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Its one supplied from xfinity, the xr7 I believe

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Its a 2 in 1 modem and router

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Coax cable goes right into it

verbal valve
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@nova osprey jesus...

nova osprey
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Yep

verbal valve
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if you're paying for a gig you might want to invest 50-100 dollars into your own router

nova osprey
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Believe me, I'm considering it. The only reason I haven't is because I just got the newest one from xfinity

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I had higher expectations but I was disappointed

verbal valve
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that's what my family did and it improved range extremely far and boosted our speed by an average of about 5-15 mbps

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thing is when you get the routers from them you pay a monthly fee

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like $14 a month

nova osprey
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Ya ik

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Its 11

verbal valve
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it's not worth it

nova osprey
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But it still sucks

verbal valve
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mine was 14

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rip

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sometimes i end up having to beg ppl to change a router to their own bc they loose so much money and potential

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shouldn't even be a second thought tbh

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anyway, good luck with your technician

nova osprey
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Thx

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I might buy a router by then idk lol

wraith steppe
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You'll need a ~$120 docsis 3.1 modem for gigabit, but a $20 router will do.
(I'd still recommend something a bit nicer)

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Arris SB8200 or Motorola MB8600 are both very popular on /r/homelab, /r/homenetworking, /r/networking

sharp fossil
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I still can't get that tplink ax6000 to give me the speeds its advertising. I've used network scanners to check which channels everyone around me is on, have tried playing with the width to no avail, its getting ~320 so it went up from the 300 it seemed capped at but I want all my speed. Recommend a wifi 6 router that actually delivers the speeds it says?

nova osprey
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Thanks @wraith steppe I'll check those out

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Would you have a router suggestion to go with those modems?

eager bison
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if its just for home use, a modem/router should be fine

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also, DOCSIS 3.0 supports gigabit

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but only 200Mb up

nova osprey
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Its so spastic in its performance

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And I don't want to drop 350 bucks for new equipment if the problem could just be my provider

nova osprey
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Looks decent

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Unfortunately, my dad pays for the wifi in the house so ill have to run it by him before I do anything but it looks good

eager bison
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this modem supports gigabit on docsis 3.0

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not all seem to

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like this one

thorn gulch
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modem+router makes it hard to troubleshoot sometimes which is why I dislike them

eager bison
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686Mb max, even on 3.0

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troubleshoot what

nova osprey
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I'm more concerned with the stability of the connection than the speed tbh

eager bison
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either it works, or it dont, you dont troubleshoot a modem, it shouldnt even be a seperate piece of equipment tbh

thorn gulch
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but you can troubleshoot routers

eager bison
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it only is because not everyone uses cable

thorn gulch
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it can be the router or ISP

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or PC

eager bison
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yes, but how does the modem inhibit troubleshooting

nova osprey
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Ya, so if I buy this one, and it still sucks, then its the isp lol

eager bison
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ive never had that problem

thorn gulch
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seperate modem means allowing you to direct connect to the modem without even considering the router

eager bison
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well, your paying 11 per month for it anyway

nova osprey
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Ik peepoSadSip

eager bison
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resetting the router isnt that hard

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boom

thorn gulch
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could be faulty router

eager bison
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most people dont have much in terms of config

nova osprey
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Thing is, my last xfinity router sucked too. I had their xr6 model for the longest time and just got the xr7 and its just as bad

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So idk if that means they stink at making routers, or their service

eager bison
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yeah, its probably just your isp screwing you over, they all do, its not the routers fault

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but

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playing 11 per month is stupid regardless

nova osprey
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Ya

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It is

eager bison
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so get a good one now, so you dont have to think about it later

nova osprey
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One year almost buys that router

thorn gulch
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which to go on with upgrading, I assume buying one modem and replacing your router every 6 years is more ideal then modem+router replacement (for like WiFi upgrade or smth)

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or replace modem when switching ISP and keep router

eager bison
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modem router cheaper for what you get tho

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replace both every 6 years

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no problem

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you would pay more in electricity by running two separate devices probably lmao

nova osprey
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I think that hei is right in that ideally you would want a good modem and router and i agree, but for this particular situation I think a combo will be better

thorn gulch
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two small power sources vs one big power source, so idk about that

eager bison
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modem does nothing, its literally a converter box

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coax one way, ethernet the other, there is no configuring, either it works or it dont

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so theres no reason not to just toss it in the same box as the router

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simplifies things and is cheaper

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especially when the device i linked is 30 dollars off

thorn gulch
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there is, because if the router is malfunctioning you cant determine if it's the router or ISP

eager bison
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so what if the modem is malfunctioning

nova osprey
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I think that if I get a combo tho, and its still bad, chances are its the isp

thorn gulch
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it is possible, but much less likely

eager bison
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plus, you know if its not the isp, because you can ask the isp

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hey

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whats with my internet

nova osprey
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Lol

thorn gulch
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you can ask the isp and maybe they'll do nothing or maybe they will. We all know not all ISPs are that good

nova osprey
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Ya, I've had a couple people to my house and it made no difference so... I dont have much faith in their troubleshooting abilities

eager bison
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you know if the router is the problem if you have reset it, and its still not working the next day

thorn gulch
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which is why you want to be able to 100% blame them if it is them

eager bison
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problem solved

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ISPs dont go down for very long

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and if its longer than a day they will tell you

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or you can look it up

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trust me, its not that hard

nova osprey
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Ya, they had a 6 hour outage for me today

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It got really bad after that lol

thorn gulch
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and what about Egg's issue? That can easily be a router issue. Direct connect to modem for two days and check if drop outs happen

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unlikely to be router, but still easily possible

eager bison
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i think thats just bad service tho

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plus

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hes getting a new router anyways

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because paying 11 a month is bad money move

thorn gulch
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and that's exactly the thing. You think it is the ISP but can't say much as to whether it is Egg's hardware or the ISP

nova osprey
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Ya

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I understand both sides

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Both have their ups and downs

eager bison
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i think a malfunctioning modem is just as plausible, ive never seen a dead router or modem tbh

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ive retired like 15 year old routers that still are working

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chugging along on 802.11g

wraith steppe
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Linksys WRT 54G's are like the nokia brick phone of routers

eager bison
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if the router is the issue, its pretty easy to tell

nova osprey
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Also, this may sound like a poor reason, but i don't really have room for a router and modem. House is pretty small and my router is on top of my TV furniture so having too much stuff up there is kinda a eye sore

wraith steppe
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Modems can definitely malfunction / not work 100%

nova osprey
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Noted

wraith steppe
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Lot of docsis 3.1 modems with broadcom chips like to drop out all the time

thorn gulch
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but now you are comparing something where you cant split out the issues. Router+modem means that if either fails, now you can blame the ISP, modem, or router. By going seperate you can easily remove the router and only be able to blame ISP or modem

nova osprey
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Ya, I read that

eager bison
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id rather have one box than two

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thats it

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worth the risk imo

nova osprey
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In the current situation I'm in, I agree with sassy

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I'm not saying its the best situation, but it works better for me atm

wraith steppe
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router modem combos are the pre-builts of networking hardware

nova osprey
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Oof

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Lmao

eager bison
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but, do they not work for typical home use?

wraith steppe
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They do

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As do pre-builts

eager bison
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yay

nova osprey
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Lol

thorn gulch
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As a techie who does troubleshooting for others, I advocate towards easier troubleshooting

nova osprey
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Understandable

thorn gulch
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my laziness is important

wraith steppe
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You can build a router from an old dell + a $30 network card

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You can run a core 2 duo cpu honestly

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Both of my routers use $20 cpu's

eager bison
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but how is latency

wraith steppe
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non-issue

eager bison
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nice

nova osprey
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Nice

thorn gulch
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what price range does it compare to standard routers? The simple $80 ones, or more in the $150 ones, somewhere else?

wraith steppe
thorn gulch
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curious about price to perf of it

wraith steppe
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@thorn gulch me?