#overclocking | Newegg | Page 43

exotic sparrow Dec 19, 2019, 1:42 PM

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@spring valve you probably wanna press F1 and set your settings to default and then set XMP

spring valve Dec 19, 2019, 1:42 PM

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@exotic sparrow had to reset my pc

exotic sparrow Dec 19, 2019, 1:42 PM

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yes

left bladeBOT Dec 19, 2019, 1:42 PM

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aux#1337 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

exotic sparrow Dec 19, 2019, 1:43 PM

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that is normal

spring valve Dec 19, 2019, 1:43 PM

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nope

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not for me

exotic sparrow Dec 19, 2019, 1:43 PM

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you should've been able to clear your settings, then set XMP, then restart

spring valve Dec 19, 2019, 1:57 PM

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I did exactly that and it didn't boot.

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 1:57 PM

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Did you un raid it

spring valve Dec 19, 2019, 1:59 PM

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Dunno what that is

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Well apparently you set it to raid mode

neon rapids Dec 19, 2019, 2:54 PM

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@sterile flame 👀 what kinda cooler u got on that

blazing venture Dec 19, 2019, 2:56 PM

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senior has won the lottery with that cpu

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 3:08 PM

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A 212 evo with deltas tied on with a Nike dadshoe shoelace

neon rapids Dec 19, 2019, 3:45 PM

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that’s about as bootleg as I’d expect from u ngl

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 4:07 PM

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and yet i yeet on everybody else with the same chip

fringe crystal Dec 19, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Why a 212

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 4:14 PM

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for the memes

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 4:15 PM

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I overclocked a 6600k to 4.9ghz on a 14 year old TT big typhoon

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it was a bit toasty though

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realistic overclock goals on a 2600 should be somewhere in the neighborhood of 4-4.2 ghz

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mostly closer to 4

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 4:34 PM

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At 4ghz you can use it to get some #1 3dmark scores like this epic one I did

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https://www.3dmark.com/spy/8172359

3DMark.com

I scored 76 in Time Spy Extreme

AMD Ryzen 5 2600, NVIDIA GeForce GT 620 x 1, 16384 MB, 64-bit Windows 10}

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😄

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 4:34 PM

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best i've seen on a stock cooler was 4.1 stable

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kekbomb

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nice dude

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that's hilarious

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 4:35 PM

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time spy extreme on a 1gb card. so much powah

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It was surprisingly hard to get the few points I needed to get past the #2 guy

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not much room for improvement with scores that low

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Sup

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 4:38 PM

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just playing with this old atom

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trying to find drivers that work for an ION

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 4:39 PM

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manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 4:40 PM

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I have killed lots of hardware, never just from high clocks

quick rose Dec 19, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Nope, it just BSOD's

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You reset, good to go

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I have killed a CPU with too much voltage though.....I kept it as a momento of my oopsie

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 4:41 PM

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except maybe some ram on a radeon 32mb card back in the day, but that could have also been moisture

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 4:42 PM

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power=heat. if you undervolt a vega 64, you can reduce the heat and raise the frequency

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 4:42 PM

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I stuck the case outside my window when it was about -10F

quick rose Dec 19, 2019, 4:42 PM

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WHOOOO

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 4:42 PM

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hell yea man, you can get mad overclocks like that

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 4:42 PM

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she ran good until she didnt

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 4:43 PM

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This channel better

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 4:43 PM

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later in life I just did a custom loop with the rads in a box that could go outside the window, but that was a condensation maker

quick rose Dec 19, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Still arguiing in main chat

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-_-

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Oh for sure

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SOmeday I'll do a custom loop

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but not in my NZXT H440

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 4:44 PM

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This was around 2004ish

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 4:45 PM

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@solid arch look at all the room we have here :)

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 4:47 PM

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had a giant tower and a separate box with the rads. Was a pain carrying it around so I put quick disconnects from an air compressor and big ugly brass ball valve shutoffs.

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that system was so much of a frankenstein

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I wish I could find the cpu block from it. I would like to try it on a modern cpu

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 4:53 PM

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my waterblock is arriving tomorrow, i'm pretty hyped to get this up and running

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i got a massively powerful pump to boot

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 4:54 PM

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PSA: Increasing frequency and only changing frequency will cause power consumption and heat to rise. To avoided this you also change voltage and/or use better cooling

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StaffPazzDeskSlap

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Frequency itself can cause changes in heat, that's a very basic known about overclocking.

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 5:36 PM

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I don't think this poor atom is going to do very well, Its been years since I tried using it.

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the board boots after I fixed it, but cinebench is crawling along very slowly

vital dagger Dec 19, 2019, 5:38 PM

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trying to find the limits of my ryzens memory controller and ram

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manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 5:40 PM

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A mighty 43 points in cbR15

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you could possibly get up to 5000mhz on the ram

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but you will need voltage

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lots and lots of voltage

vital dagger Dec 19, 2019, 5:42 PM

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you get worse performance on ryzen 3000 parts when you are no longer in 1:1 with fclck

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3800 1:1 (so 1900mhz) is the golden cpu territory, that + tight timings is about as good as you can get on them

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mine hangs during boot when trying to start the gpu at 3800 1:1

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so 3733 1:1 (1866) looks to be as high as I can get

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 5:45 PM

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3800 is a lot to ask from the pcie at 1:1

vital dagger Dec 19, 2019, 5:46 PM

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it's all tied to the memory controller on the cpu

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 5:46 PM

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ya, but you can drop out of 1:1 to get higher. performance might not be ideal, but it would allow you to play around with higher frequencies just for the fun of it

vital dagger Dec 19, 2019, 5:47 PM

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hence the 4133 xmp above, I tried it

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been there done that, went back to 3733

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i'm all set memory wise at least if the ryzen 4000 parts can do higher 1:1

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 5:47 PM

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on my old z170 I had to drop fclk to 800 to get over 200 bclk. it would just freeze hard at POST

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the fact that they can go that high is an improvement. my 2600 has issues with getting 3200 stable and my 2700x wont go over 3400

vital dagger Dec 19, 2019, 5:50 PM

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yea basically every 3000 cpu can do 3600 afaik stock

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provided you have good memory/mobo

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 5:50 PM

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here's the thing though. it's not "frequency" per se, but workload and intensity of said workload. frequency (c) means nothing when latency and throughput are ignored. given these conditions, frequency allows for heavier workload over (t) period of time when latency remains the same. given heavier workload with latency being the same, throughput (d) increases. if throughput requirement increases, more transistors will need to switch within a clock cycle. there is a power requirement (p) for switching (z) number of transistors. there is a static number of transistors (a) within a core
the passage of clock cycles exists independently from that of throughput, however, the reverse is not true.
d/t=z
(z/a)=d
if z>a then d/a=c
p:d
What can we infer from this?

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 5:51 PM

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that math is hard?

vital dagger Dec 19, 2019, 5:52 PM

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if every measurable metric is lower when tested when at a higher clock speed on it vs a lower clock speed, there's zero point going for the higher clock speed

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now if my bandwidth increased a bunch at a higher memory speed but my latency suffered, there would be use cases that would benefit in some work loads

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 5:52 PM

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I wouln't say zero point. its all about having fun if you enjoy pushing hardware to its max

vital dagger Dec 19, 2019, 5:52 PM

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but everything went down

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 5:54 PM

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these guys pushing m die to 5ghz+ arent doing it for performance, its all for epeen

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 5:54 PM

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btw, IF is your bottleneck there my man. best latency you could ever hope for on a subzero suicide voltage run is 50ns for mem latency at IF clock of 2000

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 5:55 PM

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LN2 clocks don't mean anything for real work, but people put a lot of effort into it

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and a lot of money

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 5:56 PM

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but the conclusion we draw from what I posted was that power depends on throughput

vital dagger Dec 19, 2019, 5:56 PM

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there's an oc forum with a topic on 3000 part latency's and even at the highest 3800 with the tightest timings no one is getting sub 60 ns

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 5:56 PM

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I am sure some people at intel are still bitter that amd holds the highest clock speed record

vital dagger Dec 19, 2019, 5:56 PM

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at least when I last looked a couple months ago, can't recall the forum now

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 5:57 PM

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best me and da boyz ever got on any zen was 50.4 or so ns on a 1920x

vital dagger Dec 19, 2019, 5:57 PM

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zen 2 has looser latency yea

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 5:57 PM

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I think the best I have seen on my 2700x is around 70

vital dagger Dec 19, 2019, 5:57 PM

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zen+ can get tighter

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 5:57 PM

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but I haven't pushed it too hard

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 5:58 PM

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power is correlated with clockspeed via throughput,

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power scales slightly exponentially with throughput

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when the throughput is bottlenecked by how many transistors may be switched in each clock cycle, then power and heat scale with frequency up until the point where throughput becomes bottlenecked by the latency/bandwidth limitations imposed by the other components

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SO
FREQUENCY != HEAT

manic helm Dec 19, 2019, 6:27 PM

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higher frequency will increase heat even at the same voltage, but not enough to kill anything. especially modern hardware that monitors temps all over the cards and will throttle to protect itself

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everything is power limited these days, so unless you go crazy and start bypassing power limits its really hard to kill a card

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something like the vega 56 mods that GN used is definitely into the degradation range

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 6:32 PM

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you literally just argued for why frequency does increase heat.
here let me dumb it down for you. A transistor has 3 leads, A B and C. Positively charged materials is around Leads A and B with negatively charged material in between. Lead C is on the edge of the negatively charge material. When potential current is waiting at lead A and another current is applied to Lead C current passes to lead B and a small amount of heat is produced as a byproduct. if you were to rapidly pulse a current on lead C it would take more power and create more heat in a given time frame. If you pulse lead C even faster that's more total power used and even more heat. Lets call the pulsing of lead C Frequency as it is the speed of which you are pulsing. Increasing the frequency of pulses takes more power and creates more heat byproduct.

This is a VERY basic concept in entry to electronics. Now intender is correct if you don't disable safeties a CPU/GPU will clock down to save itself from over heating.

blazing venture Dec 19, 2019, 6:33 PM

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I like to throw caution to the wind.

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 6:36 PM

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did you read what I wrote?

solid arch Dec 19, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Did you read what you wrote?

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 6:38 PM

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yes, heat is dependent on transistors that are actually switching.

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 6:39 PM

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yes and when you increase the the frequency of a CPU/GPU you increase the rate the transistors are activated, that's LITTERALLY what frequency means. Now technically that's 1 or 2 layers removed by IPC but the frequency means CLOCKS per seconds and IPC means INSTRUCTIONS per CLOCK. every instruction will activate transistors.

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 6:40 PM

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if all transistors are switching, then the chip would be consuming insane abounts of power

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and idle and load would be the same

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but that's not the case is it?

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 6:41 PM

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NPCMechanicFacepalm if you are putting a CPU/GPU under load at 100% usage the reason it does more work at faster frequencies is because the transistors are activating much more rapidly

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it's not a hard concept to understand

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 6:42 PM

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so there are transistors that are activating less rapidly on idle?

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 6:43 PM

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not really

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 6:43 PM

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then what do you mean activating much more rapidly

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 6:44 PM

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they activate just as rapidly as at full load, the amount work changes and the amount of transistors used changes

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 6:44 PM

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that's it man

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the amount of transistors being used changes

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with the amount of throughput

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like if you had read what I posted you would see that's what I said

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 6:45 PM

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and I'm saying if you are at 100% load like you would be in a benchmark the reason it works better with higher frequencies is the transistors are activating more rapidly than if it was at full load with a lower clock

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that's the entire point

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 6:46 PM

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you straight up didn't read what I posted

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sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 6:47 PM

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you don't understand what you posted. increase in frequency at the same given load will cause more heat.

blazing venture Dec 19, 2019, 6:47 PM

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I wish ya'll would give it a rest.

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lol.

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 6:47 PM

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that's what I've been saying the entire time

tight plinth Dec 19, 2019, 6:48 PM

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I would take a guess that Shingle took some sort of thermal dynamics course given the equations that were given

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 6:49 PM

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you make me feel like I haven't felt in years

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 6:49 PM

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less total load/usage != lower frequency

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 6:49 PM

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and yet equals less heat

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 6:49 PM

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that's a no brainer

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 6:49 PM

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they are correlated

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It's not 1:1

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 6:50 PM

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more load and more frequency BOTH cause more heat

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 6:50 PM

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its loaded transistors per clock

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 6:53 PM

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when you run a stress test you are sitting at 100% CPU usage/load
that stress test at 3.5GHz will produce less total than that same exact test at 4.0GHz.
The load didn't change, the frequency did

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 6:53 PM

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lets say 5,000 out of 13,000,000,000 transistors are loaded per idle clock cycle. 12,999,995,000 are just chillin. clock speed is the same

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no, the load very much so changes

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you get more load per second with what you said

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 6:54 PM

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you can't increase the load more, it's literally 100% CPU usage there is no 110% usage, you don't have a magical extra core with extra transistors

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you can increase the speed at which the load is handled

tight plinth Dec 19, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Get a shovel and dig some 💩 in a given amount of time.
Now do the same but faster. You now have dug more 💩 in the same amount of time. Therefore more load

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 6:55 PM

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you straight up don't get that frequency is independent from load

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thanks hei

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 6:57 PM

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load in this sense means % usage of the when all cores are being used to their fullest possible it's at 100% total, 100% on every core, 100% on every thread

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 6:57 PM

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i'm outta here. you got btfo with an analogy about shoveling manure

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kekbomb

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 6:57 PM

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the load doesn't change, the amount of work does

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 6:58 PM

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you still don't really quite understand it man

tight plinth Dec 19, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Two of the same CPUs but diff freqs, low (3.5GHz) and high (4GHz)
CPU high can do 114% of the load CPU low can

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 6:59 PM

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as i said earlier it's throughput dependent until you hit a bottleneck

tight plinth Dec 19, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Therefore you can see a 114% load

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 6:59 PM

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No i'm pretty sure my 140IQ brain understand it perfectly. Frequency increase at 100% CPU usage/load will be HOTTER. it's a well know fact of overclocking.

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 6:59 PM

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ASbigBrain

tight plinth Dec 19, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Just the perspective changes

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 7:00 PM

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big brain comin' through

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nah, i'm out for real this time. if I stay I'll rip on you and get banned

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 7:00 PM

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maybe I'm explaining it too high level....

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 7:00 PM

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brainlet

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 7:01 PM

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FASTER SPEED MEANS MORE HEAT.

did you get that one?

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I can get in a call and say it slower for you

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both usage of the CPU and clock speed are separate ways that both affect thermals

tight plinth Dec 19, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Think of load never changing perspective. When you OC the CPU the load is still looking at the base clock instead of the OC clock (again, we'll do 3.5 vs 4). At full load with that OC the utilization would look like 114% because it is comparing to the original clock

blazing venture Dec 19, 2019, 7:04 PM

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look you guys really need to chill with the back and fourth, keep it up i'm just mute everyone.

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 7:04 PM

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hei, you are thinking in terms of manual labor, not in the technical terms of a CPU.
If you think of load as work done, then sure. but that's not the proper terms for that

tight plinth Dec 19, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Which is probably where the miscommunication came through with this whole thing

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 7:06 PM

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fact is if you do the same thing at 2 different clock speeds the higher clock speed will be hotter.

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that's all I've been trying to explain

tight plinth Dec 19, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Also what shingle was saying but in a different way

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 7:07 PM

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not really he is literally saying it isn't

tight plinth Dec 19, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Believe it was more of the physics stand point and how it was correlated but not directly related

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I'm trying to keep it civil box

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Don't worry

blazing venture Dec 19, 2019, 7:08 PM

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you guys can have a conversation all you want, but there is no need to start personal attacking eachother

dapper hound Dec 19, 2019, 7:08 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-5263684

Tenor

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 7:10 PM

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now clock it to 5.3 and take a screenshot of the idle temps

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kek

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 7:11 PM

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NPCMechanicFacepalm You're supposed to take screenshots of the under load temps when changing frequency before and after

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 7:13 PM

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here. better yet, clock it to 4.7ghz with 47 uncore, p95 it, then do one at 5ghz but with 39 uncore

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kek

blazing venture Dec 19, 2019, 7:14 PM

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how about we hit the power button

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and take a nap.

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 7:14 PM

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send this man to the ranch

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ASHyperGasm

dapper hound Dec 19, 2019, 7:15 PM

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pls

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not my face

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FeelsLifeMan

blazing venture Dec 19, 2019, 7:15 PM

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sorry 😦

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I just love your face.

dapper hound Dec 19, 2019, 7:15 PM

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im telling your wife

vital dagger Dec 19, 2019, 8:37 PM

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system does not like CL14, causes a boot loop

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everything set to CL15 seems to work, but for whatever reason is reporting CL16 still

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sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 8:42 PM

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How about I test this with an oscilloscope and some current meters:). What system? 2500k good?

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 8:52 PM

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New personal best :D
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/42090311?

3DMark.com

I scored 9 682 in Time Spy

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X, AMD Radeon VII x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 10}

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 8:54 PM

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Nice! Have you tried any of the geekbench open cl computer? I wonder if r7s would dominate

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 8:54 PM

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I have not

sterile flame Dec 19, 2019, 8:55 PM

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I love cuda and the market for hardware as well as the community of support, but I competition in the market

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Another personal best in the other benchmark :)
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/42090768?

3DMark.com

I scored 24 206 in Fire Strike

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X, AMD Radeon VII x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 10}

trim fern Dec 19, 2019, 11:43 PM

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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/42094181?

3DMark.com

I scored 11 982 in Fire Strike

AMD Ryzen 5 2600, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 x 1, 16384 MB, 64-bit Windows 10}

sleek quest Dec 19, 2019, 11:48 PM

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considering the BEST score for that system is in the 14,000 range overclocked, that's not bad, congrats. @trim fern

trim fern Dec 19, 2019, 11:48 PM

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Ya i am not even overclocked lol

sterile flame Dec 20, 2019, 12:34 AM

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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/42095132?

3DMark.com

I scored 5 908 in Time Spy

AMD Ryzen 5 3500X 6-Core Processor , NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti x 1, 8192 MB, 64-bit Windows 10}

dapper hound Dec 20, 2019, 12:55 AM

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i'm back

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ASevilFast

sleek quest Dec 20, 2019, 12:59 AM

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Hellmo

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mine's better, its got RTX fire

sleek quest Dec 20, 2019, 1:24 AM

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@sterile flame grats on beating Ecks in Firestrike 😄

sterile flame Dec 20, 2019, 1:25 AM

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Thank you 🐿

neon rapids Dec 20, 2019, 1:49 AM

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wait til I get my 1070 ti on there :v

dull ginkgo Dec 20, 2019, 1:50 AM

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wait til I get my 3800x on there :p

neon rapids Dec 20, 2019, 1:54 AM

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🤔

analog pecan Dec 20, 2019, 2:39 AM

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cuh

granite sentinel Dec 20, 2019, 3:00 AM

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How much more power would be drawn from my psu if I overclocked a 5700 xt

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I’m new to overclocking

dull ginkgo Dec 20, 2019, 3:24 AM

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Not that much

sterile flame Dec 20, 2019, 3:49 AM

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Sounds like we should start a leaderboard.
Separated per hardware to level the playing field.

dull ginkgo Dec 20, 2019, 3:49 AM

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I'm interested

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:26 AM

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Do it

trim fern Dec 20, 2019, 5:26 AM

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Do it now!!

sleek quest Dec 20, 2019, 5:27 AM

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I'm ranked 184th in the world for Radeon VII + 3700X in Time spy 😄

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I'll take it

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:28 AM

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closest thing to ecks score I have is with my old rx480 and 6600k

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https://www.3dmark.com/fs/11544847

3DMark.com

I scored 11 195 in Fire Strike

Intel Core i5-6600K Processor, AMD Radeon RX 480 x 1, 16384 MB, 64-bit Windows 10}

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and here is my 2080 and 2700x

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https://www.3dmark.com/fs/20510953

3DMark.com

I scored 23 339 in Fire Strike

AMD Ryzen 7 2700X, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 x 1, 16384 MB, 64-bit Windows 10}

trim fern Dec 20, 2019, 5:30 AM

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Ya but are you overclocked cause i am not

sleek quest Dec 20, 2019, 5:30 AM

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😄 yay I'm a bit ahead for fire strike at that level of hardware

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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/42090768?

3DMark.com

I scored 24 206 in Fire Strike

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X, AMD Radeon VII x 1, 32768 MB, 64-bit Windows 10}

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:31 AM

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I never really ran firestrike very often

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your cpu carried you in those tests. my 2080 was a tiny bit ahead of your vii in gpu tests

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and I mean a tiny bit. .4% and 1%

quick rose Dec 20, 2019, 5:34 AM

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I don't think FireStrike likes overclocks with Afterburner. It never ran for me.

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:34 AM

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honestly the only score I know my rank for is the one where I score 76 points in time spy extreme with my gt620 and got first place with all gt620's in extreme

sleek quest Dec 20, 2019, 5:35 AM

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Fire strike isn't as CPU weighted as Time Spy 😄

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:36 AM

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my 2700x holds me back from getting top scores with my 2080

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9900k's and x299 chips get too high of a score from the cpu tests

sleek quest Dec 20, 2019, 5:37 AM

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yea

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:38 AM

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if I limited it to 2700x it might be ok

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ya, #76 with 2700x and 2080

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I should probably try and push into the top 50 someday

sleek quest Dec 20, 2019, 5:40 AM

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i love the new Radeon adrenaline 2, it makes overclocking a lot easier and more stable

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:40 AM

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My gpu scores are higher than the #1 2700x/2080 score, I just haven't overclocked this cpu

sleek quest Dec 20, 2019, 5:41 AM

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nice

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the VII potentially has a lot more room to clock than I gave it

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:41 AM

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I really should try overclocking the cpu. still doubtful it will do much even on a loop

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my first 2700x would overclock really well, this one not so much

sleek quest Dec 20, 2019, 5:43 AM

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my VII kinda won the lottery and performs above the average at stock so I hope that translates into decent overclocking XD

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so far so good

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funny enough when paired with the same CPU the VII has higher top results than the 2080

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:47 AM

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my 2080 is watercooled. if I could get the power limit higher I could get better clocks, but its fairly maxed in most of my benches. I might have another 50mhz on the core if I felt like tweaking

sleek quest Dec 20, 2019, 5:47 AM

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NYEHE

sterile flame Dec 20, 2019, 5:47 AM

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Team name?

sleek quest Dec 20, 2019, 5:48 AM

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NewEggers

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:48 AM

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Weggs

sterile flame Dec 20, 2019, 5:48 AM

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Could register on hwbot or just use excell for now

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:48 AM

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if your gonna make a hwbot, I will have to bench all my horrible hardware

sterile flame Dec 20, 2019, 5:49 AM

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Basically - go to benchmate.org, download, run, screenshot with the built in utility, ez

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:49 AM

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might motivate me to get this atom fully operational

sterile flame Dec 20, 2019, 5:49 AM

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I like hwbot because $$ down't buy rank - just globals but hardware points = skill, will garner respect regardless

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:51 AM

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I did a horrible job soldering the capacitors on this atom board

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I couldnt find any that matched so I just put some other ones that I pulled of a dead motherboard together in parallel and soldered them with some speaker wire to the board

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even used lead solder, so no rohs cert for me

sterile flame Dec 20, 2019, 5:56 AM

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Wait, what specs? if you want I can probs help

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:57 AM

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it works

sterile flame Dec 20, 2019, 5:57 AM

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Need to match polarity , type (e.g. electrolytic, ceramic, Al-Poly, etc) and capacitance or use a combo that has equivalent C and ESR/ESL

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Voltage can be higher usually - as long the above is satisfied

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:58 AM

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the board was laying in a box and 2 caps got pulled out and a choke was knocked loose

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the legs for the caps were still in the board, but the rest was gone

sterile flame Dec 20, 2019, 5:59 AM

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Perfect. Ya, those 16v 80uf etc electrolytic caps love to just burst when they feel like it after 5 -10 years

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 6:00 AM

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replaced it with some 25v ones off an old am2 board

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I just guessed at the capacitance

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the caps have something to do with the ram I think since it only sees 1 stick of ram now unless i increase the voltage to the ram then both sticks show up and work normally

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might quit my day job and start doing this for a living

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📎 20191220_005710.jpg

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and when in doubt just hot glue it

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I used to be good at soldering. this proved that I need to practice more often

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I am hoping to get at least 1 good run in on 3dmark so I can get one of the last few steam achievements I need for 3dmark

sterile flame Dec 20, 2019, 6:39 AM

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Pick up a ts80/100 or used hakko, I like the cheap replaceable tips on the hakko. Buy 63 / 37 lead

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 4:47 PM

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https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/22857639

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it called me terrible

blazing venture Dec 20, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Unknown F2-8500CL5-1GBPK F2-8500CL5-1GBPK 2GB
2048, 2048 MHz
1024, 1024 MB
Relative performance n/a - insufficient samples

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 4:49 PM

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i am offended

blazing venture Dec 20, 2019, 4:49 PM

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lolol

dull ginkgo Dec 20, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Lemme find my bench from like half a year ago

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https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/17665368

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 4:50 PM

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I feel bad for dragging down the benchmarks for the gigabyte ssd with it running on sata 1 port

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I am pretty sure all those low numbers in that graph are from one of my old computers

dull ginkgo Dec 20, 2019, 4:52 PM

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My CPU bench was considered to be like 105% until they made the change :(

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 4:52 PM

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ya they like to change things in favor of i3's

dull ginkgo Dec 20, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Now its down to like 83

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 4:52 PM

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I think the last time I checked it said the i3 9350k was better than my 2700x

dull ginkgo Dec 20, 2019, 4:54 PM

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They consider a 3800x at most a 99% XDDD ha ha no

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 4:56 PM

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I gotta go get my kids soon

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I almost forgot it was early release day

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https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/22858049

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something isnt right wiht my 2080 in that bench

dull ginkgo Dec 20, 2019, 4:57 PM

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For some reason I thought you were buying a kid because they released early

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 4:58 PM

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I have enough, not gonna be buying any more

dull ginkgo Dec 20, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Well disable monitor sync then

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 4:58 PM

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oh I see, I have gsync on that is limiting my gpu score

dull ginkgo Dec 20, 2019, 4:59 PM

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I'm sad that I just realised I bought the ram model with hynix c die instead of samsun b die

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:00 PM

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c die does well enough. most of it can do 3773

dull ginkgo Dec 20, 2019, 5:00 PM

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I got the F4-3600c16D-32GTZNC

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When I looked it up at first I didn't see the C at the end xd

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:01 PM

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over 3800 the memory latency gets lower on ryzen

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higher, not lower

dull ginkgo Dec 20, 2019, 5:01 PM

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I wonder if I can tighten timings to like 16-16-16-32 staying at 3600mhz

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:02 PM

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possibly. I tested mine at 3600 at 16-17-17-42 I think it was

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32 might be a bit low

cold galleon Dec 20, 2019, 5:03 PM

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If you are doing anything productive and you have sufficient cooling, you should be fine to get tighter timings on a good set of Samsung manufactured ram

dull ginkgo Dec 20, 2019, 5:03 PM

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I'm still pretty excited for tonight

cold galleon Dec 20, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Rise of Skywalker?

dull ginkgo Dec 20, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Putting the stuff into my PC and OCing it

cold galleon Dec 20, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Even better

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:04 PM

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I wish I could go see star wars tonight

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I don't think I will be finding tickets

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Maybe sunday or monday

cold galleon Dec 20, 2019, 5:04 PM

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What general area?

dull ginkgo Dec 20, 2019, 5:04 PM

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I wonder, would having a CPU with a big heatsink next to the ram make the temps better?

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Bc the fans on the cpu cooler pulling air

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:05 PM

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I can't pre purchase, I would just have to get them whenever I had time to go

cold galleon Dec 20, 2019, 5:05 PM

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You would want a down firing tower or just more airflow for that

manic helm Dec 20, 2019, 5:05 PM

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c die doesnt get too hot though. mine have no airflow and usually stay around 35C

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I have seen them get up to around 42C

dull ginkgo Dec 20, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Ah I see

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Well actually the ram would be under the headsink

neon rapids Dec 20, 2019, 9:00 PM

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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/42125977?

3DMark.com

I scored 17 604 in Fire Strike

AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti x 1, 16384 MB, 64-bit Windows 10}

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oh nice my gpu only hit 66c under load when oc'd

rotund dust Dec 20, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Can anyone help me with OCing

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I have a gtx 970 and an intel i5-4690K

sleek quest Dec 20, 2019, 10:56 PM

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Dumb my only overclocking is with Ryzen Master and Adrenaline 2, sorry I can't help

dull ginkgo Dec 20, 2019, 11:42 PM

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Msi afterburner

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 2:48 AM

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Yo guys, im an idiot in computers, a friend gave me a computer he didnt need anymore and it came with a Geforce GTX 620. I want to overclock this bad boy but i dont really know how to approach it or if ill break it. any advice?

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i already have the software, its called msi afterburner

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 2:49 AM

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You mean a GT 620

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there is no such thing as a GTX 620

blazing venture Dec 21, 2019, 2:49 AM

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Not going to get much out of that 620

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 2:50 AM

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Maybe LoL and CS 1.6 but that is about it

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@paper yacht You're going to need a new GPU as that one wont do so much even if you manage to overclock it

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What is the rest of your system like processor and memory?

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 2:51 AM

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uh how do i check that

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 2:51 AM

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https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

CPU-Z | Softwares | CPUID

CPU-Z is a freeware that gathers information on some of the main devices of your system :

			Processor name and number, codename, process, package, cache levels.
			Mainboard and chipset.
			Memory type, size, timings, and module specifications (SPD).
			Real time me...

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You can download just the zip version

left bladeBOT Dec 21, 2019, 2:53 AM

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Ducky Boy#8945 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 2:53 AM

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alr

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 2:53 AM

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no swearing

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 2:53 AM

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damn

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alr then

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you think i can run dauntless on this thing?

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 2:55 AM

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Did you download it and see what your CPU is?

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 2:55 AM

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im downloading it rn

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help

📎 Screenshot_26.png

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jesus why is it so like full of info

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my brains gonna blow up

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 2:57 AM

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Decent CPU

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if you want to play Dauntless you're going to need to replace your GPU

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 2:57 AM

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damn it

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 2:58 AM

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Like i may have mentioned overclocking a GT 620 you can't do much

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 2:58 AM

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damn im kinda sad rn

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should i delete msi

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 2:59 AM

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You can keep it there so when you have a new GPU you could still use it

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 2:59 AM

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alr

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 2:59 AM

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Do you own a console as well?

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 2:59 AM

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yeah, ps4

echo zenith Dec 21, 2019, 2:59 AM

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Anyone have a good pc list for around 1k

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 2:59 AM

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Could play Dauntless on there since it is also a cross platform game

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cause my cousin plays on a PS4 and i play it on my Switch

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:00 AM

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wait so can i plug up my keyboard and stuff to the ps4 and play that way?

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:00 AM

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Dauntless is better played with a controller to be honest

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:01 AM

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i mean yeah but i dont really enjoy controllers

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:01 AM

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and certain games you can use a keyboard and mouse for consoles

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:01 AM

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ill look it up

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:01 AM

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I believe Epic made their games work that way cause Fortnite works with keyboard on a PS4

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But with Fortnite they have it keyboard vs keyboard and controller vs controller

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:02 AM

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damn it

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so im leaning towards a no

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Well for Dauntless try it out with a keyboard first

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also Dauntless is not Fortnite

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There is one other thing you could use but to some would consider it cheating

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which is using this https://gamesir.hk/collections/keypad/products/gamesir-vx

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:03 AM

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what is it?

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:04 AM

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it would mimic a controller

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:05 AM

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ah no thats not

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ehh\

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idk

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im just gonna download dauntless and see how it runs on very low

exotic sparrow Dec 21, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Dauntless is not particularly demanding

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:07 AM

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oh?

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:07 AM

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It is when using a GT 620

exotic sparrow Dec 21, 2019, 3:07 AM

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it utilizes shadows and light instead of a lot of textures, just enough textures

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GT 620? oof

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:07 AM

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aw

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i am broke boy so i cant buy a new gpu

exotic sparrow Dec 21, 2019, 3:08 AM

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that's unfortunate

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:08 AM

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yeah

exotic sparrow Dec 21, 2019, 3:08 AM

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you might do well running dauntless at a low resolution (848x480) and the lowest settings possible

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but i can't say for sure

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:08 AM

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ill try it

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cuz csgo runs at 50 - 60 fps on lowest settings and on 1260x760

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depending on the map it can be 30 - 40

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i also have this problem where if i change my res on any game, it automatically changes its brightness down

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idk why

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:13 AM

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@paper yacht when you have money to buy a new GPU i would suggest this one https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-570-rx570-4g/p/N82E16814930010

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You'd be able to play CS GO at 1080p at very high and dauntless on high settings

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:14 AM

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oh damn

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my dream gpu is a gtx 1060

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:14 AM

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I am using my dream GPU which is a 1660

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:15 AM

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goddamn gg

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:15 AM

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But also i only play Dauntless on my Switch so

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:15 AM

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oof

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i also need a new monitor

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my "monitor" is actually a tv lmao

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:16 AM

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i like it better on a console than a PC to be honest because i could also do Lan parties a lot easier

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:16 AM

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makes sense, its portable

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its funny cuz i have a Razer Deathadder Elite, and a Razer Cynosa Chroma and my pc sucks and my tv is my monitor

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Lets say you're using the RX 570 ok

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:17 AM

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yeah

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:17 AM

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you could use this monitor without any problems https://www.newegg.com/lg-24bk430h-b-23-8-full-hd/p/0JC-000D-00610

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Cause for FreeSync you could just use HDMI when using AMD cards

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Also 75hz 1080p IPS for 105$ is very good

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:18 AM

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freesync?

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:19 AM

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FreeSync pretty much eliminates any form of screen tearing when you have Vsync off

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:19 AM

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oh what

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goddamn alr

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Ya i have to replace my monitor cause while mine has FreeSync i can't use it cause for Nvidia cards you need to connection VIA Display Port

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and this monitor is only HDMI and VGA

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:22 AM

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oof

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you want to see my wishlist for the pc?

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:23 AM

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as a screen shot ok

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:23 AM

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oh nvm most of the parts are unavailable

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damn it i got to update my list

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should i just buy the pc already built?

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or should i buy the parts individually and make it myself

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:27 AM

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For what you want to play your system is fine you just need to replace the GPU and maybe the memory cause i don't know how much memory you're using

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:27 AM

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oh alr

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but like i also want to play destiny 2

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i might wait until i can work, and then buy my pc tbh

echo zenith Dec 21, 2019, 3:29 AM

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So I made this list.. this is my first list and I plan on building it sometime in the next few months. Input will be helpful

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:29 AM

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Your CPU can handle Destiny 2

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:29 AM

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oh alr

echo zenith Dec 21, 2019, 3:29 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WpkYdm

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:29 AM

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Go for a 1660 Super and from EVGA @echo zenith

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:29 AM

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idk why i clicked the link tbh i know nothing

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:30 AM

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MSI Ventus is like the bottle barrel card just like MSI's MK 1 series

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Anyways for Destiny 2 the recommended CPU for the game is a i5 2400

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with a 1050 Ti or 570 you'd be able to play on high settings

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@paper yacht this is also for Dauntless https://i.gyazo.com/1b9049c4a69498708a603a7ecc487e5b.png

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This is why i suggested the RX 570 cause you'd be able to play on high

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:36 AM

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uh simplify dummy brain no follow

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:36 AM

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minimum is what you need for low settings and recommended is what is needed for very high

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you have the minimum for CPU but the GPU i suggest would be like the middle ground

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:37 AM

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oh i see

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alr then, adding that to my list

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 3:40 AM

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The only time you would need to replace your processor is for newer titles

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well newer more demanding

manic helm Dec 21, 2019, 6:34 AM

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oh I missed the guy trying to overclock a gt620

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most of them overclock reasonably well, its fairly easy to improve performance by about 30%, but sadly an improvement of 30% only gets you from 6fps to 9fps.

sterile flame Dec 21, 2019, 2:06 PM

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What is the best you can get on a 3400g

trim fern Dec 21, 2019, 2:58 PM

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For overclocking i would assume 4.4GHz

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4.4 to 4.6

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 3:16 PM

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well im here again and well

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a 30% bonus is still a bonus so ty for the info yall

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is there anything i can change in MS1?

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cuz the top 3 are unmoveable even with the settings

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should i max the rest out?

neon rapids Dec 21, 2019, 3:31 PM

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afterburner?

reef folio Dec 21, 2019, 4:58 PM

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No pinned guides? Rip

dapper hound Dec 21, 2019, 5:01 PM

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WhenLifeGetsAkko

manic helm Dec 21, 2019, 7:34 PM

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@paper yacht you can only change core and memory clocks. I was able to max out both sliders in afterburner, but I dont suggest you try to go that far immediately. Try something like +100 core and +100 ram. My core started to have issues around 850mhz for the few games i tried playing, but for benches i could max the slider. My ram went all the way to the max without issue. I might try unlock the BIOS some day for higher clocks but its just a card I have laying around so its no loss for me if it dies.

paper yacht Dec 21, 2019, 8:15 PM

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i can change the fan speed too

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should i do that?

midnight moss Dec 21, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Urpf

📎 IMG_20191221_160650.jpg 📎 IMG_20191221_160631.jpg

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Cinnebench does not seem to know my clock speed XD

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I am still the sadness with old CPU.

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I realized I had to save the $$$ for taxes :'(

manic helm Dec 22, 2019, 12:51 AM

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wow thats an old build

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I don't think I have ran 11.5 in a few years

vital dagger Dec 22, 2019, 1:01 AM

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asus x570 tuf at default mobo settings
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380519382721495048/658104792157126693/unknown.png

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enabling pbo gave no difference
I'm assuming as the default they have is "auto" that it's already enabled

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pbo on + 200mhz setting and opening the window (it's winter) brought the room to 16c

📎 pbo__200_window_16c.png

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cpu temp was locked on 68c during the test for a few runs after that, so a better cooler would help but kinda pointless for the small difference

manic helm Dec 22, 2019, 1:07 AM

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not bad, thats right where my stock 2700x scores

paper yacht Dec 22, 2019, 4:24 PM

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alr ive decided to sell my ps4 in order to buy a gtx 1060 and replace my 620

sterile flame Dec 22, 2019, 7:47 PM

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nice

paper yacht Dec 22, 2019, 11:59 PM

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scratch that, im buying a gtx 1660 since its better and cheaper for the christmas sale

neon rapids Dec 23, 2019, 2:04 AM

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dont get a 1660

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get either a 1650 super or 1660 super

trim fern Dec 23, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Still nothing wrong with a standard 1660

neon rapids Dec 23, 2019, 2:07 AM

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yeah but its not really a good buy rn

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its like the 2070

sterile flame Dec 23, 2019, 2:09 AM

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Depends on the price.

paper yacht Dec 23, 2019, 2:56 AM

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i mean newegg has it for 200

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and the 1060 is also 230 on newegg so

manic helm Dec 23, 2019, 3:25 AM

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the 1060's are way overpriced right now since they arent making them anymore

fringe salmon Dec 23, 2019, 3:27 AM

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any old hardware is overpriced there

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4790k for over msrp, ddr3 at ddr4 pricing sometimes, 8700k for more than 9700k usually. It's a mess

paper yacht Dec 23, 2019, 4:38 AM

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aw

exotic sparrow Dec 23, 2019, 6:02 AM

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the price of the vega cards is most amusing

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the 56 is 279 and it's like well, that's not the worst i've seen

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but the 64 is like 650-750 range

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64s should be around the range of 250-275 at this point given their position in relation to the 5700

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they are often that much used

neon rapids Dec 23, 2019, 5:39 PM

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rip undervolting on my 1070 ti

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only got it to -50mV

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but now it can do 2100mhz at 1.075V at like 65c

vast cave Dec 23, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Hah I did a stupid and got a 2080 super

honest hatch Dec 23, 2019, 10:44 PM

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i5 9600k 5ghz 1.328V idle temp 39c 😄 gaming 52-60c and stress test 10 mins max 70c

📎 unknown.png

neon rapids Dec 24, 2019, 12:05 AM

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what stress test?

quick rose Dec 24, 2019, 12:08 AM

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Run that on an AIDA 64 test and see if it stays that cool. AIDA is hardmode

full canyon Dec 24, 2019, 1:03 AM

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When I run AIDA 64 on my 3900x the temp monitoring on AIDA 64 and Ryzen Master seem to have a fairly sizable discrepancy... AIDA says i'm tapping out at 49c and Ryzen Master says 60c, is there one that's known for better accuracy?

quick rose Dec 24, 2019, 1:05 AM

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Ryzen master

full canyon Dec 24, 2019, 1:10 AM

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Ok cool thanks

jaunty cosmos Dec 24, 2019, 3:58 AM

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what can i overclock my i7 9700k to if i have the Corsair h100i rgb platinum cooler

quick rose Dec 24, 2019, 3:58 AM

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Whatever the silicon lottery gods bestow upon you

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Cooling is only part of it, not all silicon is the same

sterile flame Dec 24, 2019, 4:45 AM

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https://siliconlottery.com/pages/statistics
Probably something like 5.0 all core 0avx, +/- 100 MHz

Silicon Lottery

Historical Binning Statistics

Historical binning statistics from Silicon Lottery

sacred wedge Dec 24, 2019, 4:54 PM

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So. Changed my cooler from a 120 to a 240 and the cooling is great now

blazing venture Dec 24, 2019, 5:06 PM

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awesome

sacred wedge Dec 24, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Was running 80c with stock clocks and memory at 2666mhz. Now cpu at 4.7 and memory at 3000 and barely touching 60c

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 12:35 AM

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something about my build doesnt seem right

sacred wedge Dec 25, 2019, 1:08 AM

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I know nothing and am new to all this but would like to know what doesn't seem right

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 2:30 AM

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something is bottlenecking and my gpu and cpu get overly hotter than before

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 2:38 AM

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Game? hardware specs?

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 2:49 AM

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mw, pubg, halo, kf2, smite, warframe, specs are gpu: asus gtx 1070 turbo ram: g.skill ripjaws v ddr4 2400 (2x8) 16gb psu: raidmax thunder 535w Mobo: Asrock AB350m Pro4 SSD: 512 gb WD black pcie m.2 HHD: Hitatchi 3tb 7200 rpm 64 mb cache cpu: 2600x

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 2:51 AM

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I don't see anything there out of place other than the slow DDR4 ram. What do you mean by overly hot?

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Has your FPS dropped?

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 2:52 AM

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well my gpu reaches 180 farenheit which it never did through hdmi but now through displayport it like gets hot and my frames skip so much its hard to enjoy games

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 2:52 AM

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82 C is toasty. Are the fans spinning up to 100%?

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How old is the GPU?

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 2:54 AM

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idk its age, but i open asus gpu tweak or try to but it never wants to open, and EVERY time i log in the fans say 31

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 2:54 AM

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Instead of ASUS GPu Tweak, try MSI afterburner. Works with any nVidia card. Uninstall the ASUS software first

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See if that gives you a different result

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 2:55 AM

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whats the best way to uninstall

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 2:55 AM

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Windows 10 - Apps and Features

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 2:57 AM

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ALSO on my gf build i put my old 2600 in, bios and cpuzid say its running normal temps but speccy says its hot, which to believe?

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is afterburner THE best?

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 2:57 AM

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IMO, yes

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I wouldn't trust speccy

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 2:58 AM

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might get my dads gigabyte aurous 1070 as well

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 2:58 AM

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BIOS is usually best

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For SLI?

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If BIOS and CPUZ agree, stick with that

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 2:59 AM

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do you recommend kombuster to test gpu??

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 2:59 AM

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No, If you're going to overclock, use something like the Heaven benchmark

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Having too many GPU software installed can create problems

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:01 AM

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ok so i have afterburner

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:01 AM

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do the fan speeds register?

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:01 AM

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fan speed says 31 %

sterile flame Dec 25, 2019, 3:02 AM

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If you're curious about overall PC performance, running a userbenchmark and linking us the results can usually help

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:02 AM

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To the right of the fan speed number it says AUTO

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Click that and make it Light Gray

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then click the checkmark

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:02 AM

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power limit 100% temp limit celsius, core clock 0, memory clock 0

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:02 AM

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That's fine, those are for overclocking

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Just want to see if the fan speed increases with load

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:03 AM

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so click auto then the check below it

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Fire up heaven or another benchmark and see if the fan speed goes up with temperature

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Ya

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AUto should be light gray

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Not dark gray

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:03 AM

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it is lighter rn

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so auto on

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:03 AM

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K, check it then run a benchmark or something to see if the speeds go up

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:03 AM

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wehre

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:03 AM

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and what your temps are

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https://benchmark.unigine.com/heaven

UNIGINE Benchmarks

Performance benchmarks by Unigine

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:04 AM

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do i download speccy or cpuzid or where do i read

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:04 AM

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In the Afterburner app

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It will read real time temps and fan speeds

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:05 AM

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so use heaven instead of userbenchmark

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:05 AM

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I think it's a better test. userbenchmark didn't get my GPU very warm

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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so the language and preset qualtiy etc do i change anything/

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?

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Nope

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just run it as is

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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hit run or play now

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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run

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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nvm thats an ad lmao

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:09 AM

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LOL!!!

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:13 AM

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so what do i need to read

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:13 AM

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Your GPU temps and fan speed during the run

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:13 AM

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so i tab out??

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:13 AM

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You preivously said it hit 82C

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:13 AM

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it is laggin whuile typinhg wtf

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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The benchmark should display GPU temp

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see what it gets to

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:14 AM

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benchmark has been saying 82 C but msi says 61C

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wait only becasue i tabbed out it reach 82c in benchmark thing

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:15 AM

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MSI fan speed go up above 31?

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:18 AM

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file:///C:/Users/Adair%20Bear/Unigine_Heaven_Benchmark_4.0_20191224_2116.html

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it went to 57 while i was tabbed out, and it is lagging while tpying rn with that app runing

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:18 AM

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The benchmark score isn't important. The fan speed and GPU temps are

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Lagging is fine, it's a whole system test.

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More concerned with GPU temp

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:19 AM

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it reach 82 in the software but while tabbed it dropped to 62 ish

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:19 AM

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Yeah, that's normal while tabbed

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So, I'd try and set a your fans to 100% and see if you can hear them

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CLick the gear icon under the Fan speed box

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then the FAN tab

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Then set it all to 100% and see if the fans spin up.

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:20 AM

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all of the points on the chart?

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:21 AM

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Yep

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That'll set the fans at 100%

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:21 AM

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theres like 6 points, put them all to 100

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:21 AM

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yes, just to see if the fans speed up

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:21 AM

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ooooh the ramp up was weird looking

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its loud af

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Ok, so we know that they work

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:22 AM

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its ablower type gpu

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:22 AM

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AH

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But it doesn't do that when it gets hot?

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in game?

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:22 AM

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nope

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:23 AM

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oof

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:23 AM

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but the curve it had was weird

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Well, it's just a generic curve

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I would custom set your own curve to have it go 100% around 70C or so

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and see if that helps with temps

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:23 AM

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the curve it shows on default had the fan run 50 % until it greaches 80C then theyre supposed to spin 80%

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:24 AM

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I'd go 100% at 70-80C

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:24 AM

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so 75? or starting at 70?

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then what about the lower temps?

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:25 AM

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I would run like 30% at 30C peaking out at 100% at 75C or something

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:25 AM

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leave them at 40 and 50 %

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?

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currently 40% at 30C then 50% at 50C

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then 100% at 70

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:25 AM

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Sounds good

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:26 AM

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or did ytou think 100% at 75 was better? also do i need to tweak anything in msi?

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:26 AM

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Click apply, then the check mark in the original window

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:26 AM

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and run the bench again/

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?

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:26 AM

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Ye

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check temps

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ALso, if you haven't cleaned out your card in a year or more, now's the time

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:26 AM

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which check mark

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:27 AM

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Big one under fan speed

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If it's grayed out it's fine

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:27 AM

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so apply, ok, check mark?

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:27 AM

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Yes

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:27 AM

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it was grey

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:27 AM

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Ok, no problem

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as long as you applied it will work

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:32 AM

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so

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the highest it hit was 71c, but the fan was running full blast loud the whole time it was that hot, what is a good degree area to be in for that

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:33 AM

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71 isn't bad

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However

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If the card is over a year old, I'd recommend taking it out and removing the shroud and cleaning it with compressed air

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:34 AM

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it was pulled out one of those slim desktop builds

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now could it getting hot be why i was also having frames freeze and stutter even in simple games? or? almost like the g sync wasnt working

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:36 AM

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Yes

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Heat will slow it down

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Or cause it to slow down, rather

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:36 AM

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so youre saying i should try gaming on it at these settings and see if its still suttering

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:37 AM

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AND CLEAN IT to help keep it cool and the fan from blasting. 😉

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:37 AM

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ik a 1070 isnt the BEST for 1440p 144hz but it can run some games decent, i dont expect it to get those frames in pubg or cod but i didnt understanding why it was stuttering so bad, making games unplayable

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ill probably figure out how to take it apart and clean it , is it hard on blower types

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:38 AM

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No, it's easy

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a few screws and the cover comes off

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:39 AM

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base clock is 1506 and boost is 1750 on afterburner it says, do those matter?

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:39 AM

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Then you can use compressed air

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No, those are fine

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:39 AM

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BUT is it bad for the fan to run 100 alot?

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:39 AM

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It shouldn't. Typically a sign that either the card cooling fins are dirty or the thermal paste needs replaced

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:40 AM

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youre saying it shouldnt run at 100% too often?

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i really appreciate the help btw its been bugging me and i didnt know why it was performing worse after upgrading monitor and cpu

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rn the fan says 1822?? mhz?

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now my proccessor is warm as well when starting games? normal??

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Things being used get warm

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It's normal

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fan running at 100% with a blower style is fairly typical as those coolers don't work all that well

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Keeping it clean can help keep the fan speeds down

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:44 AM

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i will be getting my dads 3 fan 1070 when he goes to a 2070

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2070 super

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Oh, much better than blower style

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:46 AM

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does pubg use alot of cpu and cores

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because my cpu gets hot on it

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also what games do ypu play id be up to playing sometime

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:49 AM

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I honestly don't play much

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and yes, CPU can get warm also

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:51 AM

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my cpu is 64C rn is that bad

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 3:52 AM

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Nah

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that's good

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 3:54 AM

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well its got the worse cooler of the 2 lol

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 4:00 AM

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Eh, the blower on the card is not good

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avoid those if you can

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 4:18 AM

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the cpu cooler is the stealth instead of the spire because we i had to temporarly put it on there

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while i wait for a refund from my water cooler

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 4:27 AM

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SOUnds like it's working just fine if temp is only 64C

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If it were in the 70's I'd use something else

neon rapids Dec 25, 2019, 4:28 AM

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70 is still fine, 85+ isn’t so I’d start worrying if it was 80c+

wild glacier Dec 25, 2019, 4:28 AM

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When you hit 98

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Faulty aio gamg

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gang

neon rapids Dec 25, 2019, 4:30 AM

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wuuut

quick rose Dec 25, 2019, 4:30 AM

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I wouldn't run my processor at 75-80C

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coolers are so cheap, keep it cool, keep it happy

exotic sparrow Dec 25, 2019, 5:54 AM

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26 dollars for a Hyper T2

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130W TDP

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if you have an AMD CPU you probably can even overclock pretty nicely on it

wide robin Dec 25, 2019, 6:36 AM

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So I pushed my ryzen 5 2600 to 3.95 ghz but it wont sit stable at 4 ghz and I've pushed my voltage to 1.32V. When I run at 3.95GHZ I can run a cinebench test all the way through but at 4GHZ it wont stay stable. Most people can hold 4GHZ stable so I'm assuming I just lost silicone lottery or should I try to bump up voltage and see if it'll stay cool

green jetty Dec 25, 2019, 7:46 AM

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Ignore what I said.

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Lol

wide robin Dec 25, 2019, 8:03 AM

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didnt even see it lol

hollow mirage Dec 25, 2019, 10:24 AM

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@wide robin have you tried 1.356v or 1.41v?

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also if you don't think you'll get that much performance from 50mhz then don't bother

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i can get my 2600x up to 4.15ghz stable all cores at 1.42v on the stock wraith spire cooler surprisingly.

spring valve Dec 25, 2019, 12:45 PM

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Hi guys currently have a I7 6700K Overclocked at 4.2Ghz and want to OC it to 4.3Ghz or more. Want to keep everything cool and stable. What do i change in the bios? Motherboard: ASUS Maximus VIII Hero ATX. If you need pictures of my voltages lmk

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I have overclocked to something like 4.7 and I had a blue screen so I lowered it to this so its nice but now its time to change to find my match.

rain hatch Dec 25, 2019, 1:38 PM

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https://youtu.be/FjIweExETlI

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Follow this guide

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Should get you somewhere, if not, at least more understanding

spring valve Dec 25, 2019, 6:05 PM

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@rain hatch i did that for my oc to 4.2

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but what about voltages etc

rain hatch Dec 25, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Ahh hmm, I don't have much experience with that, but the general idea is increase clock multiplier till u r barely unstable, increase voltage for that clock, check if u r stable, repeat

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Ull have to ask someone else for more detail

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Also obviously don't increase voltage by high amounts at once lol

stone axle Dec 25, 2019, 6:37 PM

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theres still suttering when playing games what do i do

sterile flame Dec 25, 2019, 6:45 PM

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https://www.overclock.net/forum/5-intel-cpus/1570313-skylake-overclocking-guide-statistics.html

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sterile flame Dec 26, 2019, 4:15 AM

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Sorting through some olds pics - figured this is a good example of how any good b-die kit can be manually clocked/timed to whatever you fancy.
This is with a $100 kit of Teamgroup dark pro 3200c14's, tRFC/tREFI at a very relaxed 360/16k
Given 1.5v vdimm, 1.25v sa/io - I'm guessing there's much more headroom to explore by tightening (all the) subtimings haha
https://i.imgur.com/E32kbZs.png

I know userbench is a meme - but funny example of how easy it is to smash https://i.imgur.com/nJVvIv2.png

Imgur

midnight moss Dec 26, 2019, 9:58 AM

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Lol it said my ram was 113% one time

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Speaking of

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I tried putting my sticks in single channel. And I was actually able to overclock them to higher frequencies

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But

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Ya know performance wise

lone igloo Dec 26, 2019, 10:01 AM

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that makes sense

midnight moss Dec 26, 2019, 10:01 AM

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How so?

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Please elaborate for my ignorance's sake

lone igloo Dec 26, 2019, 10:02 AM

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one channel only uses one lane so you can reach higher clocks but with 2 channels you double the lanes/bandwidth

midnight moss Dec 26, 2019, 10:03 AM

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I had the same number of sticks

lone igloo Dec 26, 2019, 10:03 AM

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same number of sticks on one channel vs same number of sticks on 2 channels

midnight moss Dec 26, 2019, 10:03 AM

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Yea

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Single vs dual

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As in putting them in where they belong

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Vs riiight next to each other

lone igloo Dec 26, 2019, 10:04 AM

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so the higher the bandwidth the higher the latency which results in lower clock speeds its a give and take game

midnight moss Dec 26, 2019, 10:04 AM

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Ahhh gotcha

lone igloo Dec 26, 2019, 10:05 AM

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more channels = more bandwidth

midnight moss Dec 26, 2019, 10:05 AM

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That makes sense

lone igloo Dec 26, 2019, 10:05 AM

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the reason we use dual channel instead of quad channel is to find the middle ground between latency and bandwidth

midnight moss Dec 26, 2019, 10:07 AM

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Gotcha. Would it be possible to build a PC that has a custom motherboard that loads everything from your drive to a slower ram drive of quad channel 32 sticks and use 2 8s as system ram?

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Slower than the ram

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Other ram

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Ack I think you know what I'm trying to say

lone igloo Dec 26, 2019, 10:08 AM

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you probably could but one thing I always tell people looking for the most speed is "you are always limited by your slowest part"

midnight moss Dec 26, 2019, 10:08 AM

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Yea

lone igloo Dec 26, 2019, 10:09 AM

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nvme drives are very fast now comparable to ram of the past or "slow ram" lol

midnight moss Dec 26, 2019, 10:10 AM

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Gotcha

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Yeah I'm using a nvme as my boot and favorite game drive currently

lone igloo Dec 26, 2019, 10:13 AM

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I would say on a best you could buy nvme ssd you could hit like 5gbps read speeds and ram can probably do around 17gbps. However back when we had 5400 rpm hdds ram was like 100,000 times faster

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its a great time to be a gamer

sterile flame Dec 26, 2019, 10:15 AM

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dual channel ddr4 can do 45-60 GB/s read, write or copy pretty easily

lone igloo Dec 26, 2019, 10:17 AM

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holy wow it got a lot faster lol

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I didnt look it up or anything those are possibly ddr2 or ddr3 speeds

sterile flame Dec 26, 2019, 11:05 AM

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64 bits /channel, one transfer on each rise/fall of the dram clock signal, so for 3200c14 - that's-
128 b * (1600 * 2) /8 for 51.2 GB/s max read

edit - or just 3200 *8 /1000 = 25.6 GB/s per channel.

lone igloo Dec 26, 2019, 11:21 AM

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@sterile flame yes I see so ddr4 so should be able to reach a maximum speed of 64 GB/s and ddr3 was limited to a max speed of 16 GB/s

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that is stupid fast

sterile flame Dec 27, 2019, 6:31 AM

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DDR4 can be pushed to 5000MT/s , there's no hard limit at 64GB/s read on dual channel - but it depends on the platform's architecture + config ofc.

quasi jewel Dec 27, 2019, 2:14 PM

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i have a i5 6600k and my question is is it smart to overclock on a single fan water cooler?

quick rose Dec 27, 2019, 2:21 PM

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Maybe a little bit. Most 120mm AIO's are just OK for cooling. It can't hurt to try and see what your temps are.

reef folio Dec 27, 2019, 2:26 PM

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I mean, run a benchmark that forces it to full load for an amount of time. If your CPU maxes out at less than 70, you have a little bit of room to overclock.

quasi jewel Dec 27, 2019, 2:32 PM

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so if on the full load bench(like the one on msi aftherburner) reaches less then 70 i can oc to about 4.0?

quick rose Dec 27, 2019, 2:33 PM

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OC until your temps get too warm

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Intel says maximum Tcase is 64C

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So, maximum core temp is 80C or less.

lone igloo Dec 27, 2019, 3:49 PM

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I wouldnt take a 6600k over 72C

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while you could take a 7600k to 95C

wide robin Dec 27, 2019, 4:01 PM

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Overclocking is a slow process @quasi jewel (sorry for the ping) like they were saying ^ you need to investigate into your chi. He's suggesting not over 72 so pull up a program that can watch temps for you then run a benchmark like Cinebench, CPU-Z, prime 95 etc. See what your temps get to right now. If you're manually over clocking go into your BIOS and set your multiplier a bit higher and run your bench mark again (I usually go by 0.5 ghz per run until it either overheats or becomes unstable) if you can run your benchmark within heat limits after bumping up bump it again (bump it based on how close you were to 72) if you hit the limit then don't go any farther. There is also the possibility you increase it and the system freezes. If that occurs up your cpu voltage to make it stable again then run your benchmark and monitor temps

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Sorry for the long message it's just kind of a slow monotonous process. It can take a little while to figure it out and you want to make sure you do figure it out. My first time out I didn't know what I was doing and destroyed my cpu like smoke and all

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Going online and seeing what other people can get with similar coolers can be useful because you can get a benchmark but you can get screwed by the silicone lottery

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If you're real close to 72 ignore my 0.5 ghz do like 0.1

manic helm Dec 27, 2019, 5:35 PM

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why would 72C matter for a 6600k. TJmax is 100C.

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You should have no problems with running it up to 90C without worry, but I would suggest trying to keep it under 85C just for longevity sake. I am currently running my 6600k on a cryorig c7 in a tiny 5.7L itx build. clocked at 4.5ghz it usually sits around 80-84C under load.

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I dropped the clock to 4.2ghz for the sake of my ears since the fan on the c7 screams like a banshee at full load

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@quasi jewel

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generally speaking I would say try and keep it under 1.3v and you should be good. I think my chip is slightly better than average silicon, but I have had it up to 4.9ghz. I ran mine 24/7 at 4.7ghz for about 2 years at 1.37v on a 240mm aio and temps usually maxed around 75C. Now that its in my itx build I do 4.2ghz at 1.22v.

dull ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Is 3rd gen ryzen just bad for oc or would it be my b450 mobo limiting it?

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Its not heat because its like 60 degrees under load

minor cape Dec 27, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Can anyone link me a guide for AMD master OCing with Dram?

sterile flame Dec 27, 2019, 7:01 PM

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@minor cape is this https://youtu.be/7w1EGPZUESU what you're looking for?

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If not. Its still a really great video

minor cape Dec 27, 2019, 7:01 PM

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nope seen it

sterile flame Dec 27, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Sorry :

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:(

minor cape Dec 27, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Has to do with the ryzen master itself

sterile flame Dec 27, 2019, 7:38 PM

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3rd gen ryzen OC's itself better than what all but few users would be willing or capable of doing.
I see it as a feature - no /s intended -almost like how an 8 speed dual clutch automated transmission is often superior, yet less fun than an H pattern

wise python Dec 28, 2019, 11:05 PM

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I’m guessing 2

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Profile 1 or 2?

📎 image0.jpg

quick rose Dec 28, 2019, 11:08 PM

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2

wise python Dec 28, 2019, 11:09 PM

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Thanks

quick rose Dec 28, 2019, 11:09 PM

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YW

raven edge Dec 29, 2019, 1:02 AM

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Can someone tell me the highest frequency to overclock my 1700X?

shy sequoia Dec 29, 2019, 1:07 AM

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ur gonna have to test that yourself my guy

dull ginkgo Dec 29, 2019, 1:27 AM

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Different chips OC differently

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even if its the same model

neon rapids Dec 29, 2019, 3:16 AM

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^

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silicon lottery

raven edge Dec 29, 2019, 4:35 AM

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mines at 7.3 GHz atm

ember orbit Dec 29, 2019, 4:39 AM

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No its not

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Its not gonna be stable

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if it is

sterile flame Dec 29, 2019, 8:05 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-6096185

Tenor

exotic sparrow Dec 29, 2019, 8:21 AM

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those would be record clocks

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 1:39 PM

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I know nothing about OCing can a Ryzen 5 2600 be at least very slightly OCed with the stock cooler ?

blazing venture Dec 29, 2019, 2:42 PM

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maybe slightly.

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 2:44 PM

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I overclocked mine to 4ghz on the stock cooler, it got warm.

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Or are there cheap coolers out there capable of OCing 2600 and 3600 also since I’ll be upgrading (more than a little, would like to push em GHz)

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Yeh, I guess the stock coolers aren’t the best ones for OC

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 2:45 PM

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and generally somewhere around 4-4.1 is about as far as they like to go

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Yeah, alright

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 2:46 PM

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I can get mine into windows at 4.2 but its not stable

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 2:46 PM

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I heard there are decent coolers though

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For cheap

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That can keep the CPUs cool most of the times

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 2:46 PM

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I have the cooler from my 2700x on it now

quick rose Dec 29, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Scythe Mugen is a good air cooler

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 2:48 PM

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anything like a hyper 212 should be good enough if you are looking for cheap

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Took note ty

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Aren’t there a lot of Mugen versions ?

quick rose Dec 29, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Mugen 5 Rev b

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 2:52 PM

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If I can afford both which one between hyper 212 and Mugen will have lower temps when OC

quick rose Dec 29, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Mugen

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It's also big though, make sure it fits in your case

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 2:53 PM

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I think there is one mugen that is fairly cheap, but if you are looking at spending that much money and have the space also look at the noctua d15

quick rose Dec 29, 2019, 2:54 PM

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212 = $40

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Mugen = $50

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Noctua D15 = $90

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 2:54 PM

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there is one rev of the mugen that is $50, the others are around $100

quick rose Dec 29, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Mugen 5 Rev b

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 2:55 PM

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I’ll think about it, I think shouldn’t spend too much money on a cooler though

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I was thinking about the stock one for a long time

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But then I thought about OCing and was like why not

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 2:55 PM

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honestly anything more than that scythe is going to be overckill

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the 2600 is not that hot of a chip

quick rose Dec 29, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Nope

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 2:56 PM

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with the stock prism cooler at 4ghz mine usually stays under 65C

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Will be upgrading to 3600 or even 4xxx in the future though

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 2:56 PM

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well stock from my 2700x

quick rose Dec 29, 2019, 2:56 PM

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If you're upgrading to that, go Mugen 5 Rev b or better

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the 212 on my 3700x was no better than the stock cooler

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Yeah, alright

quick rose Dec 29, 2019, 2:57 PM

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I know the 3700x has more cores and runs hotter than the 3600

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 2:58 PM

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if you can wait it out for the 4000 series it will probably be worth the upgrade assuming they don't have supply issues

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 2:59 PM

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I think I’ll do 2600->4xxx

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And if 4xxx are too expensive for me or whatsoever 3600

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 3:00 PM

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I have decided to hold on to my 2700x. I originally planned on getting a 3900x, but the lack of supply kind of stopped that.

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Yeah, those are not in stock very often from what I see

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 3:01 PM

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but with the 4000 series so close I feel like it would be a waste considering my 2700x still fits my needs for now. I just have to avoid the urge to upgrade.

quick rose Dec 29, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Yes

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 3:02 PM

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If a CPU fits my needs I would stick with it for as long as possible

quick rose Dec 29, 2019, 3:02 PM

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February release ish

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17% IPC increase

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Unless you want to test out something newer

quick rose Dec 29, 2019, 3:02 PM

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25% floating point

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 3:02 PM

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February !🙏🏼

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Intel releases are most prob January right

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 3:03 PM

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they probably wont have stock in stores until the end of feb or march

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Intel or AMD ?

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 3:03 PM

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intel

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Yep I guess that’s true

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 3:04 PM

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I wouldnt expect amd to have anything on shelves before may

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 3:04 PM

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AMD people might be switching to 10th gen

quick rose Dec 29, 2019, 3:04 PM

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Nah

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Some people I know are doing that

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When they can cop em

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 3:05 PM

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there are always fickle people that swap constantly

quick rose Dec 29, 2019, 3:05 PM

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and then AMD releases Zen 3 right after

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and so on and so on

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Competition is still pretty alive between those two companies

manic helm Dec 29, 2019, 3:06 PM

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When I was younger I constantly bought hardware, I try not to buy as much anymore.

quick rose Dec 29, 2019, 3:07 PM

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I upgrade every 3-5 years

fresh jackal Dec 29, 2019, 3:07 PM

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The only computer hardware I own is a gaming mouse a MacBook Pro and a case lol

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First build in March-april I think

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Anyways thx for them coolers I’ll check em out

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Happy Sunday

quick rose Dec 29, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Happy SUnday!

sterile flame Dec 29, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Hey guys, whenever my pc wakes up from sleep it freezes, and its a new build. Has a 9900k and 32 gb of ram at 3600 mhz... Processor seems stable at 5.0 ghz turbo, and its watercooled so my temps are always 40-50c even under load. Anybody have any idea what could cause this?

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I have lifetime malwarebytes premium on and it scans everyday... so I dont think its a trojan causing usage spikes either...

sterile flame Dec 29, 2019, 9:33 PM

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um, how can I overclock the ryzen 7 2700x without damaging anything?

woven path Dec 29, 2019, 9:50 PM

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make sure you have a good cooler, and dont over voltage

lone igloo Dec 29, 2019, 10:09 PM

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Shouldnt be able to damage anything only like a 1% chance. Most of the time the cpu will shut itself off prior to damaging itself but yeah like @woven path said dont go crazy with the voltage

quick rose Dec 29, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Voltage is #1 CPU killer

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raise everything else up until it quits, then raise voltage carefully

lone igloo Dec 29, 2019, 10:13 PM

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and slowly

sterile flame Dec 29, 2019, 11:03 PM

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scary

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https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/wiki/index

index - overclocking

All things overclocking go here. Learn to overclock, ask experienced users your questions, boast your rock-stable, sky-high OC and help others!.

sterile flame Dec 30, 2019, 9:45 AM

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yeah man voltage killyness is relative

shy sequoia Dec 30, 2019, 1:46 PM

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i've yet to kill anything overclocking and my brain is like Dumb most of the time

manic helm Dec 30, 2019, 3:19 PM

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if you haven't killed anything are you even overclocking

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But in seriousness, it requires some effort to kill modern hardware though. I occasionally see someone who just shouldn't be allowed near a computer, but most people are too afraid of killing something to ever push hardware far enough to kill it.

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then there will be that one guy thats like, I overclocked my 9900k to 5.3ghz on air with 1.5v and its stable. And you just cant convince them that its a bad Idea.

shy sequoia Dec 30, 2019, 3:26 PM

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i mean yes

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i am overclocking

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my rx580 runs at 1499mhz

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for some reason 1500 does not work

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and precision boost overclock reaches 4.2Ghz on my ryzen 5 2600x

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but like i'm just using fans and air coolers i have no reason to be heavy overclocking

astral trench Dec 30, 2019, 7:04 PM

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wtf man my rx 580 gets 1685 on air stable

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and my 1600x gets 4.2 ghz on my dark rock pro 4 cooler at 65c max when using cinebench

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R20 and blender

shy sequoia Dec 30, 2019, 8:26 PM

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how in the world do you get 1685

rain hatch Dec 30, 2019, 8:34 PM

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He goes fast

manic helm Dec 30, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Mine only does about 1585

shy sequoia Dec 30, 2019, 10:13 PM

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how about memory

manic helm Dec 31, 2019, 2:12 AM

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honestly never really pushed the memory

sterile ridge Dec 31, 2019, 3:51 PM

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Is the h100i a good enough AIO?

quick rose Dec 31, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Yes

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It will keep the 3700x plenty cool

sterile ridge Dec 31, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Sweet

short blade Dec 31, 2019, 7:46 PM

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how difficult would it be to overclock 3600MHz RAM to 3733

sterile ridge Dec 31, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Pretty hard

short blade Dec 31, 2019, 7:48 PM

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my modules are rated for 3600 but ive heard 3733 is the sweet spot for ryzen 3000

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my motherboard supports 3600 and 3733 so should i bother

sterile ridge Dec 31, 2019, 7:51 PM

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Eh

dull ginkgo Dec 31, 2019, 8:08 PM

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I think 3600 is the sweet spot, since avove that you need to oc infinity fabric

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And it depends on what ram modules you have

quick rose Dec 31, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Not worth the bother

clever moat Dec 31, 2019, 8:55 PM

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hey guys new to overclocking. just delidded my 7700k and put thermal grizzly liquid metal, no silicone to seal and have it clamped with the mobo. tested with aida64 extreme - stock i was getting 55-62c. i jumped straight to 4.7ghz and 1.29 volts. is that okay?

tender niche Dec 31, 2019, 9:38 PM

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simple question. components are only six-7 months old should i wait till warranties are out before trying to oc?

rain hatch Dec 31, 2019, 9:38 PM

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They're quite unlikely to go faulty at stock settings

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So I don't see the benefit of waiting

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But it's up to you

shy sequoia Dec 31, 2019, 11:16 PM

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@clever moat does it work

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and has it exploded yet

clever moat Dec 31, 2019, 11:17 PM

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Yes and no

shy sequoia Dec 31, 2019, 11:17 PM

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are your temps normal

clever moat Dec 31, 2019, 11:17 PM

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After panels closed its 68-72 under load, highest spike was 78

shy sequoia Dec 31, 2019, 11:17 PM

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well if it works you should be perfectly fine

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just don't go past like 1.5v

clever moat Dec 31, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Its the first time i manually set a voltage and just read that voltage is the main cause of killing a cpu so just asking if it was fine 😭

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Oh okay

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Def not

shy sequoia Dec 31, 2019, 11:18 PM

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your pretty safe my guy

clever moat Dec 31, 2019, 11:19 PM

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Thanks homie

thorny zealot Jan 1, 2020, 6:49 AM

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Hello

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i got a question can i overclock a i7-9700k on a asus prime Z370-p II motherboard the cooler i would be using is a cooler master hyper 212

sterile flame Jan 1, 2020, 5:02 PM

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yes but not too far

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you can overclock, but just not very much, you will be thermally limited most likely

small ether Jan 1, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Can I overclock my pentium?

exotic rapids Jan 1, 2020, 5:42 PM

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the manufacturer has a specified speed at which the product runs

small ether Jan 1, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Ok

quick rose Jan 1, 2020, 5:42 PM

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No, your H61 motherboard doesn't allow that

blazing venture Jan 1, 2020, 5:42 PM

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I wouldn't suggest you over clocking anything on your pc Flight.

exotic rapids Jan 1, 2020, 5:42 PM

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overclock the case duh

celest linden Jan 1, 2020, 5:42 PM

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@exotic rapids u overclock ur monitor?

exotic rapids Jan 1, 2020, 5:43 PM

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i have not found time to properly do it

celest linden Jan 1, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Oh

small ether Jan 1, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Can I overclock my downloaded rgb?

exotic rapids Jan 1, 2020, 5:43 PM

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but raise it 1hz at a time, play a game for 5 min and check for errors

celest linden Jan 1, 2020, 5:43 PM

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U know a good overclocking video I can follow for monitor??

exotic rapids Jan 1, 2020, 5:43 PM

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uh

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amd or nvidia?

celest linden Jan 1, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Gpu?

exotic rapids Jan 1, 2020, 5:44 PM

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yes

celest linden Jan 1, 2020, 5:44 PM

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NvidiA

exotic rapids Jan 1, 2020, 5:45 PM

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ok you overclock in the nvidia control panel

celest linden Jan 1, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Oh ok

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What happens if I go from 75 straight to 99?

exotic rapids Jan 1, 2020, 5:45 PM

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crash

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probably, or severe screen tearing

celest linden Jan 1, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Will it break the monitor or will it fix itself?

exotic rapids Jan 1, 2020, 5:46 PM

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how about don't do it?

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most monitors can do 5-15hz above rated refresh rate

celest linden Jan 1, 2020, 5:46 PM

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I guess 80 is ok

exotic rapids Jan 1, 2020, 5:46 PM

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try that first

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it might void your warranty btw

celest linden Jan 1, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Could I just say it was a power surge?

exotic rapids Jan 1, 2020, 5:49 PM

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no

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because you changing the electronics within the monitor itself via software

wild glacier Jan 1, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Unless your monitor is rated to run higher on the box or smth

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like mine came 120 but it said 144 on the box

quick rose Jan 1, 2020, 5:51 PM

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The effort to go from 75hz to 80hz isn't worth it. Especially at the cost of color quality which typically happens

wild glacier Jan 1, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Ye 4 frames won't help you much

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5*

midnight moss Jan 1, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Yeah. I mean the difference between 60 and 80 tho...

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That is noticable

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Just shake your view a bit

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You can see the frames

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If it's 60

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Or worse XD

small ether Jan 1, 2020, 9:31 PM

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@quick rose and @wild glacier Are you online 24/7???

sterile ridge Jan 1, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Seems like it