building-and-recc-chat

[little osprey]

yeah they come with fans

those ones are cringe

@balmy patio i forgot do you need the commander pro for the LL120s?

[balmy patio]

i don't think so

[little osprey]

ok i figured it out

ugh ok

i think it need commander pro

lighting node no come with enough slot

why flashy light be annoying

[balmy patio]

big price to pay for some cool lights

but its worth it, right?

[little osprey]

yes

wait huh???

it can connect 12 fans??

no way

ugh nvm it still need pro

[balmy patio]

wait doesn't a corsair aio come with it

i might be wrong

[little osprey]

no

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/iCUE-CONTROLLERS/iCUE-Commander-PRO-Smart-RGB-Lighting-and-Fan-Speed-Controller/p/CL-9011110-WW

@south jungle

buy this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PK9FsX

here is build

buy literally any 3070 other than the FE

[cursive haven]

is the gigabyte aours eliete better than the steel legend

[little osprey]

idk

[balmy patio]

imma have to do changes to your list mando

[little osprey]

what

whats wrong

[balmy patio]

just to make it cheaper

[little osprey]

psu and ssd

keep flashy light

@south jungle 3070 TUF oc on asus website and any 3070 on amazon is your best bet for getting one

asus only ever restocks like only the TUF oc on the website

[vital warren]

yeah yikes a nearly $1800 pc with a 3070

[balmy patio]

its because of the flashy lights

[vital warren]

what a waste of money

[little osprey]

flashy lights

shut up nerd

[vital warren]

if you're going to make a list that bad don'

t even link it

[little osprey]

HEY

HE SAID FLASHY LIGHT

[south jungle]

Thanks

[little osprey]

SO I MAKE FLASHY LIGHT GO BRRRRR

[balmy patio]

i mean he did say flashy lights

[little osprey]

@south jungle make sure to put the QL120 on the back 120mm

[vital warren]

i mean if you want to waste that much money on lights that will annoy you in a year and lose so much performance then lol

good luck

nmp

[little osprey]

the bearings last long wdym

[balmy patio]

the software will also go brrr on your pc if you want flashy lights

[little osprey]

its corsair

iCUE

ez

@south jungle theres also a USB you need to plug in on the side of the AIO cooler (the part that goes on cpu)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/589689072692494356/777435305724477480/9k.png

[vital warren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/43TN68 here's a better performing list for cheaper with still a bit of lights (if you don

t

want to waste money on more lights u dont need and fans

dumb enter key

[little osprey]

hes likely on 1080p so the 3080 is completely unneeded he literally said he wasn't going to try and buy a 5000 series cpu

[vital warren]

well you are making the list expensive still even with a 3070 with flashy lights

[little osprey]

and the samsung ssd is great value due to it having double the lifespan of a SN750

so?

flashy light

[vital warren]

you guys are trolls

[little osprey]

u changed the ram too

same price

but less flashy light

like wtf

[vital warren]

corsair ram eh

[balmy patio]

i mean it is less wide

[south jungle]

Who makes the best ram?

[little osprey]

Gskill

[balmy patio]

so if you're fitting an aio to the top, it'll help

[south jungle]

Are you sure?

[little osprey]

but corsair is flashy light and no point for him having really good ram

[balmy patio]

bruh

[little osprey]

Gskill makes best ram

its shiny

[vital warren]

no point on spending such a premium on flashy lights

[balmy patio]

dwella, what happened to your old pfp smh i really liked it

[vital warren]

christmas time

[little osprey]

but he said he wanted flashy lights

[south jungle]

Who did?

[balmy patio]

oh, understandable

[little osprey]

Who did?
@south jungle ur friend want flashy light right?

[south jungle]

He didn't say

Probably doesn't have a preference

[balmy patio]

sheesh i was saying that he probs wanted it to look nice but not spend all his money on it looking nice

[south jungle]

Right now he only has 1k saved specifically for the PC build

[little osprey]

ask him if he wanted it to look like this

[vital warren]

1k can still get you 3070 + r5 3600

[south jungle]

He asleep

Yeah but 3070 go brr on sales

[little osprey]

yeah but you skimp out on literally everything else @vital warren

[vital warren]

not really

[little osprey]

make a 3070 3600 b uild then

[south jungle]

I would prefer to pay retail value not scalpers price

Scalpers are the worst thing

[vital warren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HVckXb this is a little higher because of 3600 pricing

[little osprey]

yeah buy on amazon and the Asus website

Asus TUF OC only buy t hat one on asus

its like only one that gets restock

thats not 1k tho

even with the 40$ shaved off the 3600

[south jungle]

You got link for the asus one?

[vital warren]

more like 70 when it's actually back to the real norm

[balmy patio]

ok @south jungle are you still ok with the list i made you, you can change the case if you want, i just like that case https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wfcmDc

[little osprey]

https://store.asus.com/us/item/202010AM310000002/

[vital warren]

that list is nice joe

[little osprey]

STOP CHANGING FLASHY LIGHTS ::(

[balmy patio]

i honestly prefer a black build over a flashy light build

[vital warren]

fr

[balmy patio]

especially a water-cooled one

less noise and distractions

[vital warren]

most rgb i would want is ram + fans

[little osprey]

a watercooled black one?

wottttt

[vital warren]

arctic liquid freezer

no rgb

works great

[balmy patio]

yes

[vital warren]

rgb = annoying

nice if you're a child

for a bit

[balmy patio]

i'm a fan of rgb accents on some mobo's and gpu's

but besides that nothing else

[rigid glade]

hey i have a question

[balmy patio]

ask away

[rigid glade]

aight so i just bought some part

But the processer and graphics card is out of stock

i was wondering if yall can help me find a substitute

[balmy patio]

do you have a list with you?

[little osprey]

i give u a 1500x for 1500$ and a 1060 for 1060$

very good deal

[rigid glade]

bc idk anything about building PC's and my dad is the one who picked out the parts and yeah hold up ill put the ones i bought in first

[balmy patio]

ight

[rigid glade]

im i allowed to post links?

am*

[balmy patio]

yeah

as long as its from pcpp or newegg

since you're a rookie

[rigid glade]

aight bet this is what i bought so far

https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-black-sn750-nvme-500gb/p/N82E16820250109?Item=N82E16820250109

https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-meshify-c-tg-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352084?Item=N82E16811352084

https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-b450-f-gaming/p/N82E16813119140?Item=N82E16813119140

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232476?Item=N82E16820232476

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cx-series-cx650-650w/p/N82E16817139200?Item=N82E16817139200

https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-black-sn750-nvme-500gb/p/N82E16820250109?Item=N82E16820250109

last one is still shipping

[little osprey]

2 ssds?

[jagged ember]

also not a b550 board?

[little osprey]

i mean he already bought it

[jagged ember]

yeah, i know

but if it was a recent purchase that's kind of a shame

[astral swift]

yeah shouldve been a b550

gahhhh

looks to be a relatively new build at it

[little osprey]

@rigid glade did you buy 2 of the last one or no

[rigid glade]

i only had a 1000$ budget and no

[balmy patio]

what cpu and gpu were you thinking of buying?

[rigid glade]

Hold up ill put the last two parts in

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3600x/p/N82E16819113568?Item=9SIAN0MBUR7398

https://www.newegg.com/msi-radeon-rx-5600-xt-rx-5600-xt-gaming-mx/p/N82E16814137571?Item=N82E16814137571

[balmy patio]

not bad

[rigid glade]

Havent bought these yet bc they out of stock but thats what im trying to get replacement parts for bc its either i buy them now or i wait another 3 weeks

[jagged ember]

just curious, is the 3600 similarly priced as the 3600x for you?

[rigid glade]

not sure if im gonna be honest. Like i said idk anything about Pc's building them or the parts my dad's the one who put the list together with my budget

[jagged ember]

yeah, it's a solid build

[astral swift]

honestly im wondering how the 3060Ti will be

i think that'll be the sweet spot when everything's in stock

[jagged ember]

but the 3600x is only worth the purchase over the 3600 if it's up to $40 more

maybe less

[little osprey]

its literally 7$ apart rn

wideus

[jagged ember]

ooh

[balmy patio]

the card you want @rigid glade is in stock at b&h for like 10 more

[jagged ember]

then its definitely worth it

[balmy patio]

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1557851-REG/msi_radeon_rx_5600_xt.html

[astral swift]

r5 3600 is 180 on microcenter if you have a local one

[balmy patio]

wait no

five dollars more

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6ZVCdD @rigid glade

[astral swift]

lmao when can PSUs be cheaper 😔

[rigid glade]

alright bet ty the solves my graphics card issue i appreciate it

that* not the

[balmy patio]

lmao according to pcpp the 3600xt is cheaper than the x and non x in the usa

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089WC4VWF?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[little osprey]

wot ?????

[astral swift]

wow

[little osprey]

damn amd be cheap

[astral swift]

^

and be expensive on the wrong stuff too

prices dont make sense

[rigid glade]

Is that the same one on my list. sorry again I dont know this stuff to well

[amber siren]

5800x cpu currently available rn at Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0815XFSGK?tag=nistele-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[astral swift]

oh damn that's retail price too

no cooler tho

[jagged ember]

Is that the same one on my list. sorry again I dont know this stuff to well
@rigid glade No, the 3600xt is not the one on your list

[astral swift]

XT is just higher clock right

[little osprey]

higher bin and higher factory overclock

so yeah

just overclocks better

[rigid glade]

aight just wanted to make sure ty

bc i saw it and it looked the same

[jagged ember]

it's good!

[rigid glade]

alright hey i gotta goto sleep so ill see yall in the morn

[mortal void]

Salutations Ladies and Gentlemen!

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/8LYpx6

this is the PC I want for my first build

[amber siren]

@mortal void suprisingly the 3600xt is cheaper than the standard 3600

[mortal void]

not for Me it isn

isn't*

[jagged ember]

Don't trust that SU800

[mortal void]

#Canada

Don't trust that SU800
@jagged ember why not?

[jagged ember]

I think it's dramless

i'll go check

[mortal void]

meaning no Cache?

[jagged ember]

oh, it does

but it only runs 560 read 520 write

[mortal void]

I'm pretty sure all of the SSDs at that price point or a little higher were about the same. Can't remember, set up this build awhile ago

[icy quail]

does the b450 pro4 paired with a ryzen 3 3100 need a bios update? It says its possible thru pcpartpicker

[jagged ember]

nope

not at this day and age

pcpartpicker notes are dumb

[icy quail]

so i only would need to open bios to make my ram as intended

right?

[jagged ember]

That SSD should be fine, but don't expect banging performance out of it lol

it's a pretty entry level SSD but at least it has DRAM

so i only would need to open bios to make my ram as intended
@icy quail You'd just need to turn on XMP

[icy quail]

2.0?

since thats what it says it supports on the package

[jagged ember]

yeah, i dunno what version

either way turn it on to get the advertised speeds

[icy quail]

ight thanks

[amber siren]

@mortal void https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089WC4VWF?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

[jagged ember]

@mortal void what's the 1tb SSD for?

[mortal void]

@mortal void what's the 1tb SSD for?
@jagged ember games

[jagged ember]

i'd say a 7200rpm HDD will do you just fine

but it has more storage

i run warzone off my HDD and it doesn't very long to load

among a bunch of other games lol

[mortal void]

i'd say a 7200rpm HDD will do you just fine
@jagged ember I have an empty 500GB HDD sitting in my current Potato of a PC. I'll be using that for like photos and random stuff. I realize I can save some money by yeeting the SSD but I'd prefer to have an SSD

[jagged ember]

okay, fair enough

how does a 1tb MP34 compare to the SU800 price wise

[mortal void]

$173.99

[jagged ember]

would that push you over budget?

[mortal void]

I mean I could remove the 256GB MP34 that was gonna be my OS/programs drive and the 1TB SU800 and it'd be cheaper to just have a 1TB MP34 but IDK. Sorta wanted to have a separate drive for OS and what-not

gives more room for games

[jagged ember]

this is true

what about a Crucial P1 or P2?

[mortal void]

and technically my budget is $2000. I had a budget 1440p 144hz monitor on my build that brought it up to around 2k. I just wanna be safe and save up $2000 even if the build is only around $1500 or so

[jagged ember]

2000/1700 vs 2400/1900 read write respectively

[mortal void]

I can look

wait is there any difference between P1 or P2? cause both these 500GB P1 and P2 drives are $80

[jagged ember]

P2 is slightly faster read write

and i think better nand

are they cheaper than the SU800 or similarly priced for you?

[mortal void]

1TB P1 is $136.50

vs $130 for an SU800

[jagged ember]

lol can you afford that extra 6.5 dollars?

[mortal void]

$139.75 for a 1TB P2

[jagged ember]

if you can, i'd probably go P1

so you don't push over budget

[mortal void]

well like I said the plan was to save up 2k, costs of shipping and tax need to be taken into account. And tax is generally more on Electronics

[jagged ember]

will the P1 be over your budget then?

[mortal void]

I could honestly get either or instead of the SU800. But then I gotta rethink boot drive or just use 2 M.2 drives lol

[jagged ember]

lol use mp34 as boot drive

and then use the other M.2 as a games drive

[mortal void]

P1 = 2000, 1700 and P2 = 2400, 1800

[jagged ember]

yes

not a huge difference that you'll ever notice though

[mortal void]

cheaper it is

[jagged ember]

also just curious about those fans

why all 3?

[mortal void]

they cheap. And if I remember I was going to replace the stock fan on the case and do rear, top, front or rear and x2 in the front

or do stock rear, 1 top and 2 front

can't honestly remember

but I'd rather have 3 fans that I know, rather than a rando stock fan that I have no idea if its good or not

[jagged ember]

fair enough

[mortal void]

Its a pretty cheap case, I don't think the stock fan would benefit it TBH

[jagged ember]

i'd say keep those stock fans

put them as top exhaust or something

but use the fans you bought as front intake and rear exhaust

[mortal void]

fair enough

what about all intake and rear exhaust?

[jagged ember]

that's for when you get your pc and build it lol

you can test it and figure out the best configuration then

[mortal void]

lmao sounds like wrk

work*

[jagged ember]

it's all part of the fun, i think

but yes it is time you need to spend lol

[mortal void]

lowkey $500 should be more than fair for taxes and shipping I would HOPE

new estimate for my build is $1500.35 with the P1 instead of SU800 vs $1493.84 with the SU800. Honestly not a bad trade off at all

[jagged ember]

ayyy

very nice

stick with that for now, come back and double check your build with people before you buy it

[mortal void]

thats like what, $8 more expensive or something?

even if it was $10 it'd be more than worth it to have the P1 over the regular SSD

[jagged ember]

true given the difference in read/write speeds

for your future reference, here's the SSD master list where I get my info from

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UewkGqEnq3Zp9jJgV9zDH05W8x8RIuFebobOtURysWA/edit#gid=0

[mortal void]

time to double check if my MOBO can even handle 2 M.2s

[jagged ember]

yes it can

i see two m.2 slots

[mortal void]

yeah its got an Ultra M.2 and a Regular M.2

what that means IDK

[jagged ember]

install your mp34 on the ultra, probably

it usually means better performing

check the manual to be sure tho

[mortal void]

By contrast, the Ultra M. 2 slot relies on PCI Express 3.0 x4 interconnection and thus boasts up to whopping ~4GB/s, two times higher compared to PCIe x4 and four times higher compared to PCIe x2 connection. ... According to Asrock, its Ultra M. 2 is up to 46 per cent faster than the typical M.

but the real question is, will the boot drive benefit from being in the faster slot lol

I would think it would only be like a couple second difference but IDK

[jagged ember]

yeah honestly it would

but only by a couple seconds

good for running your normal OS stuff so u don't wait around

[mortal void]

and I still have 3 Sata ports for any drives

[jagged ember]

thank your mobo choice for that

[mortal void]

cuz good ole trade-offs between m.2 slot and sata port

but the only drive I'll be putting in there is a 500GB HDD

shouldn't need anything bigger for my Documents and random crap

and hopefully my MOBO will be compatible with the 3600 out of the box

[jagged ember]

it will be

don't worry about it's note

usually pcpartpicker notes are dumb

[mortal void]

true

[jagged ember]

unless you're getting an intel chip with an amd chipset

then maybe pay attention

[mortal void]

thanks for the help doe, you da real MvP. Got me a way better Games drive for a slight price bump

[jagged ember]

👍

I try to help where I can!

Good luck getting your PC together! Come back if you need any more help!

[mortal void]

definitely

I mean its this community that helped me with my build to cut as much cost down as possible

originally I had 32gigs of RAM and a 2700x (which I learned that the 3600 is both cheaper, newer than the 2700x and is mostly better for gaming)

[jagged ember]

32 gb would have been overkill lol

[mortal void]

yeah I realize that now

[jagged ember]

unless you're doing render work or CAD or something

[mortal void]

yeah

and it's not like I Stream or do YouTube so

and the stock cooler on the 3600 should be more than adequate right? I don't plan on OCing at all. Aside from setting XMP for the RAM

[warped moat]

Yea it’s good enough

[mortal void]

would be nice to have an Nvidia Card specifically for RTX Voice, but they sorta too expensive to be worth it

[astral swift]

you could buy a used 2060 for 300?

though personally i would wait for the 3060 to come out if you're patient

then 2060s could fall to 250

[weak field]

you. ould

could

do that

[mortal void]

5700xt is better than a 2060 or 2060Super

and I don't wanna compromise on performance just to have RTX Voice

[weak field]

yeaaaah

but the 5700xt is like 400$ usd

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G8CqRT

thoughts?

[weak field]

pretty good

except overpriced ram and weird nvme drive

[little osprey]

any good drive ngl i randomly picked one

[weak field]

team group mp34

[little osprey]

1 tb?

[weak field]

it doesnt matter

[little osprey]

do i need extra fans?

[weak field]

i dont know about that case

i think there might be a mesh version

[little osprey]

i just wasnt a good looking case with good airflow

i will liquid cool my cpu

[weak field]

ah

the 1 intake fan on the psu and the exhaust on back, idk if it has included but id pick up a pack of uphere fans

3pack for like 25$

[little osprey]

can u pls add them in

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[weak field]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GFrPF8

i changed the ram to faster cas latency for the same price and still rgb

the 512gb nvme drive is for os and software and most used games

[little osprey]

3700x? y not 5600x?

[weak field]

i didnt change it

if was like that

[little osprey]

oh i will change it no worries

[glacial bear]

hey guys
my first attempt to build a pc

i am kind of lost

[weak field]

how

[glacial bear]

where the hell do they go

[weak field]

audio

bottom of the motherboard

look for audio

[glacial bear]

also these

[weak field]

and the other one is a usb 3.0 i believe

second picture now

[glacial bear]

man, i just thought i'd put some pcie and 24pins and good to go

[weak field]

the one on the right is a sata power

[glacial bear]

case model is gt501

[weak field]

yeah we all fo

[glacial bear]

okay thanks a lot man

every one of these should go to the mb right

[weak field]

i think the one on the left is sata transy

transfer

both plug into your ssd

[glacial bear]

ok, i'll take some good pictures for you, just a min.

[weak field]

id look at a map of your mobo and find the audio

then try to match up

[glacial bear]

mobo is b550-f gaming

asus

[weak field]

im kind of retarted

ssd

then those go on the pins that are on the bottom there should be a whole bunch of them

[glacial bear]

thanks

i'll give it another shot

[amber siren]

alright any improvement I can change in this build? The rtx is just a placeholder for 6800xt. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGFpBc

I'm using it for 3d modeling, graphic design, animation, asset creation, a bit of gaming and maybe streaming.

[glacial bear]

power supply feels like kind of an overkill

[weak field]

if your spending that much on ram get cl16

faster cas latency

[amber siren]

Is there a better motherboard that’s compatible with this case?

@weak field actually I want to ask similar question, is it better to get the 3200 since the 5900 isn’t improving that much from 3600?(at least that’s what I was told.)

[weak field]

any atx motherboard will work

3600 is faster than 3200

but if the latency is higher cl18 <cl16 then there equal

like so

3600 mhz c18= 3200mhz cl16

they balance out in pros wnd cons

[glacial bear]

guys what's this cable, couldn't figure out. it's detachable

when detached

[velvet locust]

Can anyone recommend me a 750$ pc build for gaming at 144fps and recording (on144hz)

[weak field]

on what settings

yo?

@velvet locust on what settings?

[velvet locust]

View distance on medium and the rest on low

[trail axle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RMnCdD

[weak field]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vNGwgt

80$ over

but your getting performance worth it

[trail axle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pXLYNP

That’s 30$ less

[uncut pelican]

Hello

[glacial bear]

whats this guys????

[uncut pelican]

Where is it coming from @glacial bear

[drifting garnet]

I would like to know why my laptop wakes up from sleep in the middle of the night even with the screen closed and my mouse shut of, like why??? Oh, and sometimes I can't even get it to sleep, hibernate, and shut down unless if I hold shift and press shut down.

[uncut pelican]

Check this out on @Newegg: Crucial P2 1TB 3D NAND NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD Up to 2400 MB/s - CT1000P2SSD8 https://www.newegg.com/crucial-1tb-p2/p/N82E16820156252?Item=N82E16820156252&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-156-252-_-11152020

This a good m.2?

[drifting garnet]

Does anyone know if PXE Boot to LAN is the same thing as wake on lan?

[trail axle]

2nd

[hasty gyro]

do you guys have any ideas for a cheap but good aio?

[uncut pelican]

Can someone please help me out

[hasty gyro]

yeah whats up

@uncut pelican

[uncut pelican]

scroll up like 10 messages and look at the m.2 i posted

[hasty gyro]

@uncut pelican from what ive heard, the mp34 is a better m.2 than the crucial p1 and p2

[uncut pelican]

@hasty gyro SO I should not buy that particular m.2?

also my budget is under 110

[languid nimbus]

I believe the p2 is fine, yeah

[uncut pelican]

Will the p2 from crucial work with msi mpg b550 gaming plus?

[little osprey]

If I have a 5 3600, is a 7 2700x an upgrade?

And no, I'm not getting a 5000 series just yet

If the 7 2700X isn't an upgrade, i might get the 7 3700x

[uncut pelican]

Dont get a 3800x

Do 2700

3700x*

Will the p2 from crucial work with msi mpg b550 gaming plus?
@uncut pelican @hasty gyro @languid nimbus

[little osprey]

@uncut pelican the 2700X has lower cache

And btw the crucial p2 will

[uncut pelican]

Thanks

[sharp tundra]

Hey guys, I think I just put together the fastest SFX gaming pc to date.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TQNDZZ

Case is a: Endless A4 Mini-ITX Tower

[little osprey]

@wild briar first one

Btw ryzen comes with stock cooler@wild briar

[sharp tundra]

Btw ryzen comes with stock cooler@wild briar
@little osprey not all ryzens come with stock coolers

[little osprey]

@sharp tundra the R5 3600 does

[sharp tundra]

Well yeah

[little osprey]

And only the high end ryzen 9s really dont

[sharp tundra]

There some ryzen 7s that dont

[little osprey]

Tho there are r5s, r7s that don't but those are USUALLY 3rd party sellers

[sharp tundra]

For example, the one in the list i just put out

[hasty gyro]

do you guys have any ideas for a cheap but good aio?

[little osprey]

Better all around

Samsung evos are basically the same as any middle tier nvme, just priced higher due to the name

You're first list is fine as is....in my opinion

[hasty gyro]

what kind of cooling do you guys have

[little osprey]

@hasty gyro I have a wraith prism rgb

But that's am4 only

[hasty gyro]

im lookin for a cheap but good aio

thats all

[little osprey]

In the 1st build the SSD is dog @wild briar

[hasty gyro]

i might be able to help you @wild briar

[little osprey]

Yah I would say so

[hasty gyro]

wait

b450 board?

[little osprey]

You can get better ram for lower pricing @wild briar

Yup ram

[hasty gyro]

and mobo

[little osprey]

Yup

[hasty gyro]

if you can go for a b550

it has pcie gen4

[little osprey]

and crucial ram

You could Go for a B550-A

[hasty gyro]

if you want a cheap b550

go for an asrock phantom gaming 4

[little osprey]

@wild briar and get this ram: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4JBhP6/crucial-ballistix-rgb-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4bl

[hasty gyro]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/4mjNnQ/asrock-b550-phantom-gaming-4-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-phantom-gaming-4

[little osprey]

Yes very

[hasty gyro]

but he wanted 32gb @little osprey

[little osprey]

Does he?

Ok

[hasty gyro]

yeah

he got a 2x16 kit

oh okay

yeah it is

[little osprey]

YES ITS ENOUGH

[hasty gyro]

but i thought you were looking at 32

[little osprey]

Don’t get 32GB

It’s too much

[hasty gyro]

youll know if you need 32

[small osprey]

Not rly

[little osprey]

16GB is good enough

[small osprey]

Not too much

[little osprey]

For what u gonna do

[small osprey]

Depends on what ur doing but if u have the money why not

[little osprey]

@small osprey bruh u don’t even know what he is gonna be using pc for

[hasty gyro]

32gb can be expensive

[small osprey]

Yes i do

Gaming/streaming

[little osprey]

@wild briar get for mobo: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4mjNnQ/asrock-b550-phantom-gaming-4-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-phantom-gaming-4 and ram: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4JBhP6/crucial-ballistix-rgb-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k8g36c16u4bl

Yeah the rest of the list is fine

2060 super right?

Hm I think u could be able to get 2070 because u said u gonna buy the parts on cyber Monday so it will fit your budget

Depends on the pricing

You gotta see when u buy the parts

Aight

[glacial bear]

Where is it coming from @glacial bear
@uncut pelican its coming from the case directly(gt501). i believe it has something to do with rgb case fans. it is also detachable

[uncut pelican]

it may be for that

i do not think its from the reset, power, audio io though

[glacial bear]

yeah, i believe so too

i do not think its from the reset, power, audio io though
@uncut pelican it also comes with pre-attached to this

[uncut pelican]

hm

[glacial bear]

yeah the red cable leads into it

when detached

[little osprey]

@wild briar see dms

Plus u don’t need to change anything in ur list it’s good enough

MATE

That motherboard

Is legit top 10

From all the vids I saw it was always there

I was gonna get that mobo but I don’t like the red on the side Lol

[violet harness]

@wild briar let me see

[flat pollen]

Good morning room... built a machine (all parts purchased on NewEgg) but I can't get it to power on. I'm trying to figure out the issue. My question is, on the case... there are wires that need to connect to the mainboard... for the power switch... the HD LED and the reset switch... how do I know which is ground and which is live? On the wire there's a little triangle on one of the connectors... but I have no idea if it's indicating ground or hot? Does anyone know?

[violet harness]

@wild briar these are better parts for cheaper. B550 = able to upgrade cpu later on etc

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ccW6Dc

Cause I think you would need a BIOS update to use a 5000 series on a b450

It is but it’s so expensive lol

There’s way better options for cheaper like the crucial p1 which is like just as good

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pgRRK3

Samsung 970 is way overpriced

[little osprey]

Hello

Can anyone help me

In #peripherals-and-displays

[thorny tusk]

ok any one got a 800 usd build

that i can look at

[little osprey]

Bruh

That motherboard that u have on the list duh

Wdym u don’t like it

Because of the red?

The B455 is still good tho

Maybe get a B550-A then

#peripherals-and-displays

@little osprey what?

I need help

Oh

Yup one sec

What

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7gxbt6/msi-b550-a-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-a-pro

There

Np

[hasty gyro]

i was thinking of maybe getting a cooler master masterliquid ML240L and then replacing the fans with their sickleflow argb fans, is this a good or bad idea? any other suggestions?

[weak field]

theres really no impact aslong as there 120mm and same rpm or lower

[violet harness]

@wild briar this list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pgRRK3

Is good

[hasty gyro]

yeah they are

theyre 120mm and around the same rpm

they move 62cfm

thanks @weak field

wait how do you give thanks

-thanks

nvm

[weak field]

yes

[hasty gyro]

how is tomie level 77

[weak field]

rowspresso

change the list

3600 is 257 rn

[hasty gyro]

oh damn

[weak field]

put a 3600x or xt in it

[hasty gyro]

where

[weak field]

everywhere

its way overpriced

[hasty gyro]

us?

[weak field]

supposed to be 200

yes

[hasty gyro]

oh wtf

i thought you meant cdn

[weak field]

x and xt are cheaper and have faster speeds

[hasty gyro]

its 280 cdn for me

[weak field]

what the....

[hasty gyro]

what are the advantages of the 3600x over the 3600

[stoic island]

doesn't really matter

slightly better bin

[hasty gyro]

what if theyre the same price

[stoic island]

3600x

[hasty gyro]

okay

it has a higher tdp but i dont think that matters too much

65 to 95

[stoic island]

@wild briar what's it for

I dissagree with mobo, ssd, and case choice.

smth like a B550m pro vdh wifi, MP34 1tb, MX330-g air that has 3 fans.

[mighty zenith]

Yeah same here. Really just looking to get the best value in building my first pc.

[stoic island]

what

they're on pcpp

ye

[mighty zenith]

Will do need a minute

[compact delta]

Hi guys, I´m new here, how can I know which desktop gaming case is compatible or fits a water coolling system?

Hi, how can I choose a gaming desktop case that fits CoolerMaster MasterLiquid ML240L RGB V2, Close-Loop AIO CPU Liquid Cooler, 240 Radiator, Dual SickleFlow 120mm, RGB Lighting, 3rd Gen Dual Chamber Pump for AMD Ryzen/Intel LGA1200/1151?

I like that water cooling system but I don´t know how to choose the case

[stoic island]

@wild briar
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cjNZJf

@compact delta what else you got?

[jagged hill]

This is the one I am trying to build.

[stoic island]

uh

@jagged hill what budget

[jagged hill]

I was aiming for 600-ish.

[stoic island]

brb

[jagged hill]

I already ordered the processor, motherboard, and memory shown.

[weak field]

imma sell a kidney

[stoic island]

god damn it

[jagged hill]

In other words, this was an attempt at an entry level.

[weak field]

i only need one

[stoic island]

ick

[weak field]

rtx 3090>kidney

[jagged hill]

lmao

[mighty zenith]

Your better off trading bitcoin

[stoic island]

I was gonna say this

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/r6mTnQ

[jagged hill]

I already found the SSD that was compatible as well.

Thank you for the help.

[stoic island]

Well, I'm more about performance

compatibility is the easy bit

[jagged hill]

I only need this for Photoshop and Illustrator.

[stoic island]

getting the most oomph for your money is what I'm concerned about :D

[jagged hill]

I'm more of an artist than a huge gamer.

The gaming is a side-perk for me.

[stoic island]

good nuff

[jagged hill]

I really appreciate the help, though.

[stoic island]

@jagged hill well....

That makes it more...

interesting

...

the less you ping the better

good nuff
@stoic island

[jagged hill]

I mean, it'll make sense down the line.

[stoic island]

Anyways

It's weird

I would've suggested like a 10100 for Photoshop

[jagged hill]

But I really want to run the school's Adobe Creative Cloud without it crashing.

[stoic island]

Adobe products like intel chips and single core perf better

[jagged hill]

Before this, I've used the [looked down upon] MS Paint.

[fossil halo]

woah

mr111 is techie

[stoic island]

MS Paing it useful >:P

[mighty zenith]

https://secure.newegg.com/shop/cart?Submit=view Let me know if this link works

[compact delta]

Hi, how can I choose a gaming desktop case that fits CoolerMaster MasterLiquid ML240L RGB V2, Close-Loop AIO CPU Liquid Cooler, 240 Radiator, Dual SickleFlow 120mm, RGB Lighting, 3rd Gen Dual Chamber Pump for AMD Ryzen/Intel LGA1200/1151?
I like that water cooling system but I don´t know how to choose the case

[fossil halo]

mspaint is poggers

[jagged hill]

I actually like MS Paint.

[stoic island]

@mighty zenith Doesn't work, try using pcpartpicker.com/list

[mighty zenith]

gotcha

[stoic island]

@compact delta Case choice mainly depend on what else you're putting in there.

[fossil halo]

ayo mr111 is r7 2700x better than r5 3600xt

[stoic island]

no

[fossil halo]

aight

is it a lot worse

or only a little

[stoic island]

Unless you are doing some really heavy multithreaded task, 3600xt wins out

[fossil halo]

got it

[stoic island]

by a pretty good margin

[fossil halo]

aight

[jagged hill]

Also, for now, I'm going to pass on the GPU unless I really need it.

[fossil halo]

and what about rx 5500 xt vs nvidia 1650

[stoic island]

@jagged hill anyways, any chance of returning what you have or do you need to just build something around it?

[fossil halo]

which is better

[jagged hill]

My current build?

[stoic island]

it's 1650 super > 5500xt > 1650

The parts you shown on the pcpp list

[fossil halo]

oh ok

pp hehe

[jagged hill]

I was trying to build around that.

[fossil halo]

im so mature

[stoic island]

aw rip

[jagged hill]

But yes, I'll order the right power supply.

[stoic island]

Well, for future reference, Ryzen APUs are a generation behind for the CPU.

2000 series APUs were Zen, when 2000 CPUs were Zen+, 3000 APUs were Zen+, when 3000 CPUs are Zen 2

no

[fossil halo]

o\

isnt 3400g best apu

[stoic island]

why would you downgrade the gpu @wild briar

[violet harness]

Anyone know a good long black mousepad I can get in canada

[jagged hill]

Gotta admit, going from whatever Nintendo slaps on the wall to PC is a huge jump for me.

[stoic island]

look

I sent you a list earlier

:P

my edit is just going to be making that list again

[jagged hill]

I'm trying to work with PC as my primary, and Nintendo's [gimmick of the five years] as my secondary system.

[fossil halo]

yo

does a black mobo and components look good in a white case

[little osprey]

Does anyone know how much GB is normal windows 10

[fossil halo]

look it up

lemme see

lmfao

[little osprey]

I am trying to find it

[fossil halo]

gogle says 15~gb

[little osprey]

Would a 250GB SSD be enough for windows?

[fossil halo]

LMFAO

[sand falcon]

Yes, but only if you aren't going to be installing many games on it

[fossil halo]

ofc

yea

most ppl

use the ssd as boot dirve

[little osprey]

nah its a 250GB ONLY for windows

[fossil halo]

and then get hdd for games

[little osprey]

so thats enough right?

[fossil halo]

LMAO then ofc

yes

[little osprey]

LOL

[sand falcon]

If it's only for windows, you could get away with 128

[fossil halo]

and u will have 235 gb left

yea

[sand falcon]

I wouldn't go much lower than 100 though

[little osprey]

aight

[sand falcon]

Windows can be space hungry

[fossil halo]

yo i really like this dlm22 case

thing

[sand falcon]

The airflow looks like it would suck

[fossil halo]

yea idk how the airflow works

but i mean

im not putting super high heat components in there

i think

prob like a 3600xt and a rx 5500xt

woah lot of xt

ima add some fans too

[sand falcon]

Why the 3600xt?

[fossil halo]

its cheaper than the 3600 atm

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2pFqRT any advice?

[sand falcon]

That's because the 3600 is way over what it should cost

[fossil halo]

yea

[sand falcon]

Those prices are from third party sellers on the amazon store

[fossil halo]

its out of stock everywhere

bc

it was prob the bestselling bpu over the summer dont quote me on that

cpu*

[sand falcon]

I think it was

[fossil halo]

yea

like its mad bang for ur buck

ayo and what are some good cheap argb fans

someone pls recommend

[sand falcon]

There aren't any

Either they are cheap or they are good

[fossil halo]

woah

ok

rn

i would say 3600xt

bc its cheaper than the 3600

[sand falcon]

If you want a good cheap fan, got one without rgb

[stoic island]

Right now, 3600xt

[fossil halo]

what are good ones

mr111

[sand falcon]

*because the 3600 is out of stock

[stoic island]

Arctic P12

gud fan

[fossil halo]

lemme see

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2pFqRT any opinion and advice?

[stoic island]

should be like 8$

[sand falcon]

p14 if you have big enough slots

[fossil halo]

not showing up on pcpp

[stoic island]

p14 for 140mm

p12 for 120mm

lmao

[fossil halo]

oh

foud it

[sand falcon]

p8 for 80mm?

[fossil halo]

oo

[stoic island]

dunno

[fossil halo]

white fan in white case look good i think?

[sand falcon]

Ya'll want some free fans?

[fossil halo]

rebate is scam

who has time for rebate

[sand falcon]

I do

You fill out the form and mail it in, it's not hard

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2pFqRT ops? advice?

[fossil halo]

wow

looks good but good luck getting those parts

[weak field]

i got the plug

kidney

for 3090

[fossil halo]

woah

[little osprey]

lmao

[fossil halo]

i have intel graphics

[sand falcon]

SSD is super overkill, probably don't need the cooler, motherboard could be cheaper, and I'd have to check the powersupply

[fossil halo]

yea

yea

[still roost]

biggasamboori#6969 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[fossil halo]

oh shoot

frick

[little osprey]

looks good but good luck getting those parts
@fossil halo prob gonna get them on January or something

[fossil halo]

forgot about christian server

yea

but ssd is overkill imo

[little osprey]

lmao

[sand falcon]

512gb ssd is fine, but that ssd in particular is waaay over priced

[fossil halo]

get a 2.5in drive

[sand falcon]

also you probably only need one

[fossil halo]

much ceaper

[sand falcon]

*3.5

[fossil halo]

cheaper

[little osprey]

idc tbh I just want the best SSD

[fossil halo]

yea

then just get one 1tb drive

[sand falcon]

mp34 is probably the best price to performance

[fossil halo]

really?

[sand falcon]

Yup

[fossil halo]

a60 is good too

silicon power

[little osprey]

I am done with lag in my life

[fossil halo]

lmfao

[sand falcon]

mp34 will be fine

[fossil halo]

oh

ok

[little osprey]

970 is fine tho

[sand falcon]

It's only a fraction slower than the 970 evo and about half the price

[little osprey]

but is that cooler good?

[sand falcon]

The cooler isn't necessary

[fossil halo]

wtf 256gb for 70$

[little osprey]

ofc it is

[fossil halo]

thats a t h i c c c c c c scam

[violet harness]

970 is fine tho
@little osprey it’s good but way overpriced

[fossil halo]

yea

[sand falcon]

The 5600x comes with a cooler

[little osprey]

thats a t h i c c c c c c scam
@fossil halo its an 970 plus so yh

[fossil halo]

are u gonna be doing mad ocing

[little osprey]

The 5600x comes with a cooler
@sand falcon no rgb tho ://

[fossil halo]

LMAO

i respect that

[violet harness]

LMAO

[sand falcon]

The one you have there barely has rgb

[fossil halo]

rgb=performance i am too stuck up to argue

[violet harness]

The 3600 cooler comes with rgb

[fossil halo]

no

wtf

[violet harness]

Yeah?

[fossil halo]

really

woah

[violet harness]

Pretty sure

[little osprey]

The 3600 cooler comes with rgb
@violet harness mate u might be blind because I am getting the 5600x not 3600

[violet harness]

@violet harness mate u might be blind because I am getting the 5600x not 3600
@little osprey no crap

Smfh

[little osprey]

and the cooler that comes with it is ugly and no rgb

[violet harness]

I clearly said the 3600 not the 5600x

[sand falcon]

The 3700 cooler does, not the 3600

[violet harness]

PERFORMANCE > Aesthetics

[sand falcon]

3600 stock cooler is the same as the 5600x stock cooler

[little osprey]

so what cooler should I get?

I dont want an ugly ass cooler thoo

[fossil halo]

woah wait what

[sand falcon]

The stock one is fine

looks fine

runs fine

[violet harness]

and the cooler that comes with it is ugly and no rgb
@little osprey who cares if it’s ugly lmao it’s not like your bringing it to a fashion show

[fossil halo]

the 2700x comes with rgb cooler

[sand falcon]

costs nothing

[fossil halo]

lemme see for 3600xt

[violet harness]

God some people

[little osprey]

@little osprey who cares if it’s ugly lmao it’s not like your bringing it to a fashion show
@violet harness I want something clean

[violet harness]

😂🤦🏻‍♂️

[small osprey]

@little osprey whats ur budget for cooler

[fossil halo]

oh man

[sand falcon]

Why just the one case fan?

[little osprey]

uh less than 80 @small osprey

[fossil halo]

the 3600xt doesnt come with rgb fan

2700x does tho

hmm

[small osprey]

U want rgb?

[little osprey]

do they sell ryzen cooler separate?

@small osprey if possible I just dont want something ugly

[fossil halo]

damn

oh shoot

ssenti

[small osprey]

Hm i mean perf>looks

[sand falcon]

I believe you can buy it separately

[fossil halo]

i still must find out your 3x3 average

[small osprey]

Oh lmao

I average 20 sec

[sand falcon]

https://www.amazon.com/Wraith-Cooler-Processor-AM4-Connector/dp/B07GKRR5WR

[small osprey]

18-19

[sand falcon]

Yup

[little osprey]

Hm i mean perf>looks
@small osprey bruh u basically saying something that is good is ugly

[fossil halo]

oh wow im actually faster than someone on the internet poggers

i avg 13-15

[little osprey]

aight ima buy that @sand falcon

[small osprey]

Nice

[fossil halo]

whenever i find a cuber on the internet

[little osprey]

ty

[small osprey]

I got rusty

[fossil halo]

i swear theyre always like sub 10

[small osprey]

@little osprey rly

Rly

[little osprey]

?

what

[small osprey]

Ugly

Doesnt matter

[fossil halo]

nah

[little osprey]

that cooler is good

[small osprey]

As long as its good

STOCK IS NOT GOOD wdymmm

[fossil halo]

dude jsut use stock cooler LMAO

[little osprey]

LMFAO RYZEN WRAITH PRISM IS GOOD

[fossil halo]

amd stock cooler is good wdym

[little osprey]

LMOAOAOAOAOO SINCE WHEN RYZEN WRAITH PRISM ISNT GOOD

[small osprey]

Hah good compared to what

[fossil halo]

2700x comes with it

[small osprey]

Since when are stock fans good

[fossil halo]

i think ima get that

dude

since amd

[small osprey]

Sigh whatever

[little osprey]

this guy is smocking something

[fossil halo]

well ruospo i think u should chill

[small osprey]

I would recommend scythe mugen 5 rev b

But since u think its ugly

Nvm

[little osprey]

lmfao

[fossil halo]

not get cocky the man who N E E D S an rgb cpu cooler

or just get a cpu that comes with it

[little osprey]

nah I want the 5600X

its good enough for what Ima use the pc for

[sand falcon]

2700x isn't great for gaming, especially when you could get the5600x for about the same price

[small osprey]

U are basically buying a second stock cooler just cuz rgb

[sand falcon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cqJGPV
Here's a modified list @little osprey

[little osprey]

2700x isn't great for gaming, especially when you could get the5600x for about the same price
@sand falcon ikr

oh ok lemme take a look

[fossil halo]

but

availability

i want to build now

my computer is broken

[little osprey]

would MIcro ATX be good enough?

[sand falcon]

Yeah

[fossil halo]

wdym good enough

[little osprey]

I dont need an HDD

I wanna get double SSD

[fossil halo]

its a preference or space thing

[little osprey]

I want things to be fast asf

[small osprey]

I wanna get double SSD
@little osprey why

[sand falcon]

As long as you aren't using a lot of expansion cards mATX is fine

[fossil halo]

yea

matx looks good too

[little osprey]

@sand falcon ikr
@little osprey the 3700x is 300 usd

[fossil halo]

good case is dlm22 or that snow edition thing

i forgot who it was by

[little osprey]

and the 5600x is 300

[fossil halo]

thermaltake iirc

[sand falcon]

Don't go double ssd. Use the 512 SSD for the games you play a lot and want to load fast, hdd for everything else

[fossil halo]

5600x is 220 boss

[sand falcon]

That's not a good case

[little osprey]

MSI B550-A PRO good too?

Don't go double ssd. Use the 512 SSD for the games you play a lot and want to load fast, hdd for everything else
@sand falcon I 250GB for windows then a 500GB for all my apps and games

[sand falcon]

512GB for windows and games

[little osprey]

If micro atx the lian li 205m is a good case

or idk maybe a 250GB for my apps and games

[sand falcon]

Just put it all on a 512

[little osprey]

nah too much des organisation

[sand falcon]

what do you mean

[little osprey]

You will run out fast on a 512gb

idfk how to type it in english

[sand falcon]

You just stick it on the drive. Artificially splitting it across two drives like that is silly

[little osprey]

I bought one a few weeks ago and I'm already out of space

@little osprey but 2 SSDs would be more organized because windows apps and games would be separate

[sand falcon]

IF you want organization, put two partitions on the 512 drive and make it into two virtual drives

They don't need to be separate

[little osprey]

hmm

partition looks hard tho

Although modern warfare took up alot of space on the drive

lmao who said I would play that game

[stoic island]

lmao

MW is like 250gb now

[little osprey]

[fossil halo]

chinese psu LMFAO why that cpu with thicc gpu

[stoic island]

isa huge game

[little osprey]

Yeah it took up most of my drive