#building-and-recc-chat

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glass depot
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Max 300 cad

weak field
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and what do you want in it

harsh portal
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Because I don’t have insta and that stuff

empty chasm
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I already have a monitor so $600 more to go

glass depot
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At least 165hz

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Is all I’m not rlly picky

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and no ghosting

harsh portal
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I gochu

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4.7 out of 5 stars 11,660 Reviews
AOC C32G2 32" Curved Frameless Gaming Monitor FHD, 1500R Curved VA, 1ms, 165Hz, FreeSync, Height adjustable, 3-Year Zero Dead Pixel Policy, Black

weak field
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there was nothing that popped up

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on pcpp

stoic island
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@harsh portal wat

harsh portal
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Oh wait

ebon matrix
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im getting the AOC

stoic island
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32in

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Y

ebon matrix
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24

stoic island
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Yea aoc c24g2 is good

small osprey
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Mr1111 is the arctic freezer ii 280 better than nh-d15?

ebon matrix
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pretty sure u can tilt and elevate the AOC

glass depot
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yea I heard good things about the aoc

small osprey
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@stoic island

glass depot
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ok fanks

stoic island
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For pure performance

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yes

glass depot
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Is it VA

stoic island
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@glass depot y u so picky about 165hz+

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it's va

weak field
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144hz you should go with

glass depot
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I’m a noob ppl told me to get it 😔

stoic island
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C32g2 is VA, it says it in the name

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lmao

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the people who told you were noobs

weak field
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165 only when “overclocked” on display port

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hdmi port only gets 144hz

stoic island
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IPS

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G241

weak field
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on a 165hz monitor

glass depot
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thanx

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my keyboard and key caps got stolen 😍

raw mist
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@glass depot the AOC CQ27G2 is a good option too btw..144hz at 1440p but its VA so kinda sucks but its fine

glass depot
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is VA bad or sum

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What r the other types

raw mist
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Ips is better

weak field
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best

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oranges

raw mist
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But VA is okay too

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I mean if ur on a budget go VA

glass depot
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I’m so picky I’ll probably end up buying an expensive one

raw mist
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If ur not go ips

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Ye

empty chasm
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My specs rn
2.5 GHz Intel Core i5
20 GB 1333 MHz DDR3
AMD Radeon HD 6750M 512 MB
500gb SATA disk

weak field
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you said this

empty chasm
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ye

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I am gren

small osprey
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Mr1111 so should i get the arctic freezer over nh-d15

stoic island
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what is your budget

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what is your use

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do you want water in your case

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@small osprey also, nh-u12a >:P

small osprey
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Budget ~100

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Gaming, streaming, video editing

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Cpu is 5600x

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Idc about water as long as it has warranty

weak field
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better hope all your parts have waranty

stoic island
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NH-U12a

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@small osprey not all aio warranties are good enough yaknow

small osprey
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No chromax.black

stoic island
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breh

small osprey
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Lmao i want it to look decent

stoic island
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aio warranties usually only cover the aio itself and not everything

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...

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bai

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u12a is life

small osprey
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hmm

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hmmmm

woven pumice
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guys is Corsair Hydro Series, H100i RGB Platinum SE better than NZXT Kraken X63 ?

stoic island
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@woven pumice neither, get an Arctic freezer ii

fading kiln
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@weak field i saw you were talking about some lower latency ram, sorry im late

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any good 32 stick ones?

weak field
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usd right?

fading kiln
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em i meant 32gb sticks, but yeah on usd would be fine

weak field
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alright

fading kiln
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@woven pumice neither, get an Arctic freezer ii
@stoic island wait so the arctic freezer is half the price here, is it really better?

weak field
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2 32gb sticks right?

fading kiln
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ye

stoic island
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It's much better

still roostBOT
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Reason: Bad word usage

fading kiln
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holly

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thanks

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i ll check the reviews

woven pumice
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@stoic island Arctic freezer ii 240 or 280? does it make a difference

stoic island
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Whatever fits

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240mm looks weird when it fits 280mm

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Performance wise should be similar

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240mm was in stock on Amazon for 100$

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280mm should be ~110$ somewhere

fading kiln
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the ones i had were 3600

woven pumice
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thank you! its definitely better

weak field
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yeah

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youd have to ask what the pros and cons of lower latency and lower speeds

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@stoic island could you explain that

weak field
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im not the best with memory

fading kiln
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i mean i could get more

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with a bit more

stoic island
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Tbh I don't even know now

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The previous thought was higher freq mattered more with Ryzen

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And then GN testing happened

ebon matrix
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dont you need something to connect to the internet from a new build?

stoic island
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Ethernet

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Or wifi

foggy hazel
ebon matrix
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so wifi need to be built in the motherboard if not using the ethernet cable?

foggy hazel
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i half expect it to be semi-taken out of context, hence why i am asking you @arctic jungle

fading kiln
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so wifi need to be built in the motherboard if not using the ethernet cable?
@ebon matrix you can always use a usb wifi adaptor

icy lichen
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I mean i kinda understand that mentality, a lot of people dont upgrade frequently, and if saving more money now, means more moeny later, i can totally see why someone would scrap upgradability for savings (but at that point i would go refurbishing an old office pc route, but i guess that does take a bit more time than just getting cheap new stuff that works with limited upgradability)

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Idk if that what they were saying tho

arctic jungle
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@arctic jungle im curious: could you elaborate on this?
@foggy hazel yea why would you get b550 and a 3rd gen ryzen cpu if you plan on upgrading soon? 1, since AMD is probably not gonna use AM4 for their next cpu, 500 series chipsets don't make sense if you wanna upgrade it... for the psu I was saying there's no way that ur going to need a 1000 watt power supply- my whole advice was waiting a year or 2 for amd to pick their next socket, because they alr had a working PC, and make a bigger budget then

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if u alr have a decent enough PC, no point upgrading just before they drop the next chipset

foggy hazel
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IF you want any of the zen3 cpus this year. With official support. You need to buy a b550/x570 board

arctic jungle
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not zen 3, zen 2

icy lichen
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Nah you can use b450

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With bios update

arctic jungle
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Nah you can use b450
@icy lichen bios isn't out yet

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jan

stoic island
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@icy lichen not universal support

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can't say "you can use b450" when not all of them will be getting the update.

foggy hazel
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@arctic jungle not countering. Putting forth a reason for "why get a b550/x570 board"

arctic jungle
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tru

icy lichen
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Yeah ofcourse but eventually, and at least i dont plan to move to zen 3 soon

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Oh ill have to check the b450 list

stoic island
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there is no list

icy lichen
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If there even is one

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Damn

stoic island
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it's optional for manufacturers to update em

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there's no guarantees

foggy hazel
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@arctic jungle and keep in mind, am5 wont be here for a good while yet

stoic island
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hell, they never told us how they're gonna get the bios on 16MB chips :P

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who knows

arctic jungle
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yea, but my advice was- if you already have a working PC that semi satisfies you, do you really need to upgrade right now?

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they didn't

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so I just advised to wait

foggy hazel
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aye aye. hence why i asked you. Because of the lack of context @arctic jungle

stoic island
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(more uncertainty on B450 getting that optional bios)

foggy hazel
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thank you for the clarification

arctic jungle
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ofc

stoic island
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fair tho

arctic jungle
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Oh what are ur thoughts on thermoelectric cooling

stoic island
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some people are the 1 upgrade a year train, some the 1 upgrade per 5 years.

arctic jungle
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I saw something on amazon, it was some off brand thing

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i'll send a link

foggy hazel
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it was fun in the 90's

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that is my take

ebon matrix
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when you use a wifi adapter u cant take it out?

arctic jungle
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like I mean TEC coolers

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linus did a thing on it

foggy hazel
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yes

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i know what you meant @arctic jungle :)

stoic island
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wdym can't take it out

foggy hazel
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its a solution that imo is not very relevant for the regular consumer

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generally: if you need a TEC, you will know it.

deep skiff
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if you look at the coolermaster page for their tec 360 cooler linus used for heavy workloads its not much better than a normal 360 aio

foggy hazel
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its also in the small range of TEC

deep skiff
fading kiln
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changed over to the arctic

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should be good to go

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might get everything but the cpu tonight

stoic island
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case and ssd seem expensive

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but your choice

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good

fading kiln
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case i really like actually, ssd I could change if there's something with a better value

stoic island
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MP34 maybe

fading kiln
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like it's in my budget, so the more performance i can get the better

stoic island
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mhm

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it's expensive

fading kiln
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is the mp34 comparable in speed?

little osprey
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is a 240mm radiator sufficient for the 5900x?

stoic island
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it's less

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lol

little osprey
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@fading kiln you will not see the difference unless you are copying files everyday

stoic island
elfin jackal
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@elfin jackal i made you a list ystrdy
@arctic jungle ik, but the mobo don't have wireless WiFi networks, so I changed it back to MAG x570 tomahawk WiFi. It's only 10 USD different compared to msrp in Canada

arctic jungle
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bruh

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get asus tuf wifi version then

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it isn't overpriced

elfin jackal
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Ok

little osprey
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yeah but tech deals said in his videos that for high end cpu like the 5900x you need min a 280mm radiator @stoic island

fading kiln
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@fading kiln you will not see the difference unless you are copying files everyday
@little osprey hm im doing a lot of coding / video editing so i'm guessing it will be noticeable

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not much of course

stoic island
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whaaa

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@little osprey what

little osprey
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@little osprey ah okay

stoic island
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tech deals said in his videos

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wat

fading kiln
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i wouldnt be able to fit a 280 rad in that case :/

stoic island
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lol

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but 240mm and 280mm perf are compariable

arctic jungle
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ye

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280 is queiter tho

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bc u can run less loud fanss

little osprey
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240mm has 37% less cooling area than 280mm

stoic island
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wat

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where'd that figure come from

fading kiln
foggy hazel
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@little osprey perhaps techdeals should go back to his benchmark numbers then.

fading kiln
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aight so im set with my stuff, anything else I should buy with the parts? like cpu paste, tools?

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also will i have to get some cables for the modular psu or do they come with the case/mb

foggy hazel
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the psu comes with cables

fading kiln
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okok thanks

weak field
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dont really need cpu paste unless the kind u want isnt rated for the amount of ocing you want to do , its pretty decent. the stock paste that id

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is

fading kiln
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okay cool

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I mean i can always get better paste if i decide to oc more

foggy hazel
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in theory, the only things you need are a screwdriver and a dishtowel/paper towels

fading kiln
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but i doubt i'll do anything too aggressive

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in theory, the only things you need are a screwdriver and a dishtowel/paper towels
@foggy hazel which i got then peepoGlad

weak field
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dont you need snippers and stuff

fading kiln
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also got zipties for any cable management

foggy hazel
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you dont "need" those @weak field :)

fading kiln
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even tho the case has a huge second compartment so i'll probably just forget to manage the cables

weak field
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so just a screwdriver and paper towels

foggy hazel
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aye

fading kiln
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awesome

weak field
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post a picture of it in a couple weeks when you build it

fading kiln
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"couple of weeks"

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im building it on xmass day

weak field
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still a couple of weeks

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just a few more couple

fading kiln
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too many weeks

weak field
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yeah.

foggy hazel
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dont know what vidoes/articles you have read/watched: but do yourself the favour and boot it once outside of the case

fading kiln
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great reminder actually

foggy hazel
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it will make your life SO much simpler

fading kiln
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i ll make sure to read the manuals too YEP

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I'll gift my current build to my sis who is picking up video editing, so we might build it together at xmass

weak field
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what do you do after you build your pc?

fading kiln
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EM

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INSTAL WINDOWS

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DRIVERS

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EEEEE

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CHECK CPU STATS

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EEEE

foggy hazel
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do you have your lan drivers on a usb stick?

fading kiln
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good question

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i dont..\

weak field
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honestly man building a pc seems so much more complicated now

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drivers and stuff

woven pumice
weak field
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maybe after all prebuilts arent so terrible

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😳

fading kiln
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NO

foggy hazel
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@weak field hey, you have access to internet, so all you need to worry about is internet access for the hardware

fading kiln
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@weak field hey, you have access to internet, so all you need to worry about is internet access for the hardware
@foggy hazel hm yeah

foggy hazel
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@fading kiln when you make the usb stick for windows

weak field
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didnt jaystwocentz make a video about what to do

vernal shuttle
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I'm trying to upgrade my pc's ram and want to make sure i get something compatible with my PC I got from newegg a year or so back.

My PC:
ABS Mage M - Ryzen 7 3700X - GeForce RTX 2060 Super - 16GB DDR4 3000MHz - 1TB SSD - Gaming Desktop PC

looking to increase to a minimum of 32Gb RAM

thanks!

weak field
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whats the mobo

solar sigil
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@woven pumice If youre spending that kind of cash I would seriously consider AMD over intel
Also 80 pounds for a wifi card seems a bit much imo

weak field
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could prolly check theire website for compatibility of the speeds

foggy hazel
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@woven pumice all those parts are being bought new?

fading kiln
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@woven pumice and the memory is very slow

weak field
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the ram paired with the gpu

woven pumice
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@solar sigil i already bought the wifi but didnt buy the gbu yet, i'll check out AMD

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@foggy hazel yes

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@fading kiln i know :( i bought it a while back

fading kiln
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ohhh didn't know you had it already

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what are the parts that you're buying

foggy hazel
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@woven pumice could you please mark the parts you have purchased, as purchased (its the gear icon on each item)

woven pumice
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gbu, processor

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@foggy hazel oh thanks! i'll do that now

foggy hazel
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you are welcome, that makes the conversation a bit easier to have :)

solar sigil
green kestrel
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why an 8700k?

weak field
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a 2080ti?

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why

green kestrel
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if you haven't bought the processor yet switch it out with a 10600k

foggy hazel
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@solar sigil if you wait until we know what they have actually purchased, then everything is just a bit more practical :)

solar sigil
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this is true

foggy hazel
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also, less confusing for them :)

solar sigil
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@weak field probably easier to find than 3000 series atm

green kestrel
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newegg has a lot of 2080ti fes

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for like

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1800+

solar sigil
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💸

weak field
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way more expensive

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and less performing

green kestrel
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lmao yeah

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not really worth it at that point

woven pumice
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done

foggy hazel
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thank you @woven pumice

woven pumice
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i thought i7 is better than i5

green kestrel
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its 2 generations old

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the 10600k is cheaper

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offers the same performance

solar sigil
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thanks for the update Melly!

woven pumice
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you're right

foggy hazel
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@green kestrel chipset support

green kestrel
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oop

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eh you still have a really good build nontheless

foggy hazel
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from the mainboard support page

green kestrel
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yeah i saw

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10600k is on z490

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also question, would the 3090 bottleneck the 8700k

solar sigil
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how expensive are 9900ks these days

green kestrel
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300-400

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best buy has a 9700k for 299

foggy hazel
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@woven pumice unless you have a very very special scenario in mind, the 3090 is a waste

weak field
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yeah

woven pumice
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i just need it for gaming really

weak field
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no

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not really

ebon matrix
foggy hazel
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3080 at the max then @woven pumice

weak field
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unless you need the 600fps on ultra

green kestrel
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lol

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Reason: Bad word usage

solar sigil
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oops

weak field
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none needs a 3090 for gaming

foggy hazel
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@weak field wrong.

weak field
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no

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everyone wants a 3090 for gaming

foggy hazel
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yes. you are objectively wrong in that statement

weak field
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how

solar sigil
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a 9900k would be loads better than the 8700k right?

foggy hazel
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the 9900k would be an upgrade yes

ebon matrix
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yea

solar sigil
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@woven pumice ^^^

green kestrel
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if you are going to get the 9900k buy it from microcenter if you have one near you

foggy hazel
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@weak field a user could be doing something on the side that requires the grunt that the 3090 has. So please dont make sweeping statements like that

woven pumice
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9900k is not compatible with the build

weak field
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for gaming?

foggy hazel
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@woven pumice since when?

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because the mainboard supports it @woven pumice

woven pumice
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it says here

solar sigil
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So back to why someone would need a 3090... unless youre running flight sim what is the benefit to justify the cost

woven pumice
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when i added the i9

solar sigil
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what do the details say below @woven pumice

foggy hazel
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yes, bios support

solar sigil
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it may just be a bios flag

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yea

woven pumice
foggy hazel
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you need to update the bios.

green kestrel
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eah

solar sigil
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non-issue if they updated it in the factory

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do they do that tho?

woven pumice
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i dont know what that means

solar sigil
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i know they did for b450

foggy hazel
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@solar sigil old board. unlikely

solar sigil
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rip

foggy hazel
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and yes, anything that ships out of the factory runs on the newest bios <- that is the general rule @solar sigil

solar sigil
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oh

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so a non-issue then

foggy hazel
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but, shipping out of factory is not the same as arriving at customers

solar sigil
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henh?

foggy hazel
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think about it :)

solar sigil
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ohhhh

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i see

foggy hazel
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it goes in a warehouse

solar sigil
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yep yepp

foggy hazel
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then the vendors get it

woven pumice
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do i update it by myself?

foggy hazel
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for storing in THEIR warehouse etc etc etc

solar sigil
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depends where you buy it @woven pumice

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if its fresh stock then you won't need to

foggy hazel
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they have already bought

still roostBOT
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J_C___#8947 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

solar sigil
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youre right

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al;so sorry bad habbit

foggy hazel
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hence the second list :)

solar sigil
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would they have a sticker on the box like they did with AMD?

woven pumice
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this is the same right?

foggy hazel
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@woven pumice do you have a local it shop near you?

woven pumice
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yeah

foggy hazel
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they should be able to pop in a compatible cpu and update the bios for you

solar sigil
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I wouldnt brick a system to try it yourself first right? it just wont post until the update?

foggy hazel
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and yes, that CPU is close enough (difference is lack of integrated graphics)

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i was talking about the bios update process in a vacuum @solar sigil :)

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yes, the process would be:

Try and build the machine, see if it works. (the 9th gen cpu that is)

If not, go to local store

solar sigil
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Ok yeah thats what I was thinking

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never had to do an update myself

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so just making sure

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:)

foggy hazel
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depending on the board, you can do it without the cpu etc etc etc

woven pumice
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i'll take it to a local store

foggy hazel
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it should be very very cheap for them to update the bios for you @woven pumice

solar sigil
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Having someone physically look at it is always better than us speculating 🙂

uncut pelican
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Hello 🙂

green kestrel
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hello

solar sigil
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o/

woven pumice
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i should tell them to upgrade the bios there right? after i complete my build

foggy hazel
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so if they start talking bs. please go somewhere else

solar sigil
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I would ask them if its necessary first @woven pumice dont have them do something that doesnt need to be done

foggy hazel
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@solar sigil you are misunderstanding what i said earlier then

solar sigil
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oof sorry what did i miss

foggy hazel
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@woven pumice the simplest for you would be doing a test boot of your mainboard+cpu+cooler+ram+gpu OUTSIDE of the case

earnest olive
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i checked and that motherboard does not have a bios flash button

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just fyi

foggy hazel
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i know

earnest olive
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so gonna need an 8th gen if it doesn't work immediately

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do they already have the board?

solar sigil
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yep

foggy hazel
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@earnest olive read back please.

earnest olive
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fair enough i just woke up

foggy hazel
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@woven pumice because that means IF everything works. you can just assemble the case with everything.

However IF it does NOT work. you can take the mainboard with the cpu+ram to the local store. No need to bring the rest of the system.

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does that make sense @woven pumice?

woven pumice
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yeah it does

earnest olive
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yeah naed's got it covered

woven pumice
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thank you so much, you helped alot @foggy hazel

foggy hazel
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you are very welcome @woven pumice

clever wolf
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tomorrow is giveaway of 3070 i entered ending, i hope i win

green kestrel
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regular role pog

uncut pelican
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gg

little osprey
foggy hazel
little osprey
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Ok

uncut pelican
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Nice almost level 13 B)

solar sigil
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that hurt me

uncut pelican
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lol

solar sigil
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physically

little osprey
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lmao

raw mist
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Guys whats the difference between Asus ROG and Asus TUF

solar sigil
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ones built FOR GAMERS

uncut pelican
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I believe ROG is a bit more if ya know what I mean

foggy hazel
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one is spelt ROG the other TUF <- that is all @raw mist

uncut pelican
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lmao

raw mist
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lmao

solar sigil
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heh

uncut pelican
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sounds about right tbh

foggy hazel
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it all comes back to the specific models in each line

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as always model over brand/line

raw mist
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yeah i think TUF is more oriented to budget whereas ROG is more high end

foggy hazel
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nah

little osprey
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No Tuf is tough

foggy hazel
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its just marketing bs

little osprey
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Try running it over

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lmao

raw mist
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lmao

solar sigil
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Effectively it's all fancy branding that matters little. Instead look at what specific features each board offers and decide based on which satisfies your needs the best.

jaunty elk
#

The biggest difference in tuf vs rog is power delivery and pci-e lanes. tuf is going to be your best bang for your dollar

foggy hazel
#

except pci-e lanes is decided by the chipset, not the marketing

jaunty elk
#

yes and no. Pci-e lanes are decided how many there are based on chipset. how and where they are used is the biggest difference on the rog vs tuf boards beyond powerdelivery. but i suppose you are right, as all board/versions have pci-e lanes used in different ways and areas

exotic saddle
#

Need a pc build with 1k budget

foggy hazel
#

@jaunty elk its a splitting of hairs

jaunty elk
#

right

exotic saddle
#

Details: 1k budget, Black build (RGB isn't important), Wifi
Want AMD and m.2 WD 1TB only for storage

jaunty elk
#

@exotic saddle Cdn or USD?

exotic saddle
#

USD

solar sigil
#

could probably save some if you find a better price for the 2060 and shave a few dollars off with a less GAMER case

exotic saddle
#

Any more budget freindlt GPU options?

jaunty elk
stoic island
#

2060 should be 300usd

#

pricing all wacked up rn

solar sigil
#

yeah pcpartpicker didnt have many options with actual prices

jaunty elk
#

IF you can find a 3070 you should be able to get one of those in a 1000$ build

ebon matrix
#

SHould i get the MSI B450M BAZOOKA MAX WIFI or MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX

exotic saddle
#

Need this build before novemeber, don't think I can get one in time

ebon matrix
#

i like the bazooka

jaunty elk
#

ooops. sorry. my link bad. no price on cpu

foggy hazel
#

@exotic saddle spoiler alert

#

it IS november

slim escarp
#

How far do you think 240gb will get you I’ll be upgrading it in about a month after the build but

solar sigil
#

far enough to install os and mission critical programs maybe one or two games

#

minus COD MW

exotic saddle
#

before the end of november*

slim escarp
#

Well I’ll probably just play tf2 and csgo until I get money to buy games

exotic saddle
#

oopsie lol

solar sigil
#

120gb is the bar minimum

ebon matrix
solar sigil
#

@exotic saddle thats going to be tough regardless

exotic saddle
#

Any GPU that is in the 300 range?

solar sigil
#

2060s

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1070 if you can find one

jaunty elk
#

300 for a 1070? I WISH!

solar sigil
#

those are like 200 - 250 used

#

i just got one

exotic saddle
#

how about a rx580?

jaunty elk
#

i cannot sell mine for 200$ Or else I would have. lol

#

anyone around here (Canada) wants a 1070 for 150. and at that, its better used as a gift to a cousin. lol

foggy hazel
#

@jaunty elk please no selling/offering

solar sigil
#

i think hes joking

foggy hazel
#

rules etc etc

jaunty elk
#

IM NOT. How was that a sell?

foggy hazel
#

im not a mod either :)

#

and with that sentence of his, its clear he isnt

jaunty elk
#

ok. complaining about being unable to sell something is NOT a sales pitch. is it?

stoic island
#

We're just keeping it out :)

foggy hazel
#

better safe than sorry and its a very very slippery slope

clever wolf
#

hi mr1111

arctic jungle
#

u missed a 1 there

clever wolf
#

no

stoic island
#

issa me

jaunty elk
jaunty elk
#

3600x was chosn as my pcpartpicker no longer showing 3600 non x price

stoic island
#

you can edit price

solar sigil
#

What a chonker

stoic island
#

like MC still has 3600 at 180$ last I checked, but PCPP doesn't show MC stuff

jaunty elk
#

b550 is recommended as its last generation with this socket, we believe, therfore you could slot a 5600x in there in a year or two. and 1660ti should manage for most anything, and always room for upgrade

stoic island
#

might want to do 1660 super

solar sigil
#

like MC still has 3600 at 180$ last I checked, but PCPP doesn't show MC stuff
that honestly pisses me off more than Id like to admit

stoic island
#

~240$ last I checked

#

3600c16 ram if possible

#

good perf

foggy hazel
#

@solar sigil take that up with Microcenter. they are the ones that have (most likely) asked to not have it listed

jaunty elk
stoic island
#

That pisses me off in the way that I don't live near a MC

jaunty elk
#

Downgrade 5600x and you COULD upgrade video card, especially if you can get something used

solar sigil
#

dang really? I would think they would want to be listed on one of the most popular pc building tools

stoic island
foggy hazel
#

there are pro/cons to being listed @solar sigil

stoic island
#

@solar sigil most of the time they do in-store pickup and the rest of the PCPP retailers are online.

#

that's one thing

solar sigil
#

thats fair enough just sad they arent included cause im lazy etc etc

ebon matrix
#

do the B450 pro max have wifi built in?

stoic island
#

B550m pro vdh wifi has wifi

#

y u want b450

stoic island
#

no wifi lol

#

it'll say when it has wifi :P

ebon matrix
#

ok

stoic island
#

for example

#

but just go with b550m pro vdh wifi smh

jaunty elk
#

honestly, i wouldnt build a ryzen system today with a b450 or x470. x570 or b550 or bust imo

stoic island
#

me too

ebon matrix
#

k

stoic island
#

but B450m vdh or whatever that's at 60$ is a valid option for very very budget builds

#

but a520 also an option

solar sigil
#

^^

ebon matrix
#

its raining hard

solar sigil
#

i love the rain

ebon matrix
#

no scary rain scary

clever wolf
#

when you build a system for a blind person and without rgb or looks cuz they don't care and then realize they can't see the screen....

solar sigil
plush mist
#

guys, does mini itx pc's generally have higher temperatures bc of the smaller size?

#

@stoic island

#

im not sure if you would know, but some help would be awesome

#

and sry for ping

night iron
#

Hurricane will hit Jacksonville Florida tomorrow night

weak field
#

dang

#

my great grandparents live in the tampa part

little osprey
#

I have compatability question. BIOS update might require for AMD Zen 3 Ryzen 5000 series CPU and Sabrent 2TB Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 Internal SSD Maximum Performance Solid State Drive With Heatsink (SB-ROCKET-NVMe4-HTSK-2TB). Any compatabilty issues with MSI Radeon RX 580 DirectX 12 RX 580 ARMOR 8G OC 8GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card and CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model CMK64GX4M2E3200C16

clever wolf
#

now in english

weak field
#

um

little osprey
#

Trying to ask whether there are any compatibility issues with ASUS TUF GAMING B550-PLUS motherboard and abrent 2TB Rocket Nvme PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280 with heat sink using MSI Radeon RX 580 video card and CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 64GB RAM?

earnest olive
#

@plush mist well yes, you have less room for airflow and less space for coolers/fans

plush mist
#

ohhh ok, thx!

#

i have a friend whos interested in building mini itx

solar sigil
#

Are you asking if they will all fit together dimension wise?

earnest olive
#

@little osprey i'm sorry but like can you type "RX 580" instead of "RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC GRAPHICS CARD THAT DISPLAYS PICTURES TO MONITOR" i can't read your message without getting a headache

little osprey
#

yes

earnest olive
#

for mini itx you just gotta be careful checking all your dimensions

#

cooler clearance, ram clearance, gpu clearance, gpu height, everything

#

needs more planning than a regular build

solar sigil
#

absolutely

little osprey
#

Didn't think I was building mini itx. Thought motherboard is atv which is going into a full size case

#

atx

plush mist
#

yes, i will be sure to tell him that

#

thanks

earnest olive
#

not you

#

there's other people here

little osprey
#

no problem

earnest olive
#

i'm kind of interested in doing a mini itx build in the future

solar sigil
#

@little osprey just to clarify you're asking about sizing compatibility too right? it sounds like youre asking about that and a BIOS version compatibility

stoic island
#

@little osprey what's the cpu

little osprey
#

primarily sizing compatibility but yes BIOS as well

stoic island
little osprey
#

I think everything work from electronics perspective but will I have clearance issues?

solar sigil
#

can we get a pcpartpicker link?

little osprey
#

where would I find that or put that together?

solar sigil
#

create a new build

stoic island
#

Mhm, it checks a good amount of the physical clearances (not all) for you, and makes it easier to look at what you have

#

And also shows price

little osprey
#

Ok, working on the list

solar sigil
#

we should have a command like !ppp that requests a pcpartpicker link and all that jazz

stoic island
#

Imagine if we get a bot command that just links my saved lists >:D

uncut pelican
#

Back

uncut pelican
#

We gotta get one of those commands

solar sigil
#

PSU stuffz -> only one psu KEK

stoic island
#

@solar sigil parametric selection

#

Click show more

solar sigil
#

ooo

#

thats new

stoic island
#

No it's not

#

People just don't use it

grim pagoda
stoic island
#

@grim pagoda at a good price, yes.

#

It's basically a gammaxx 400

grim pagoda
#

@stoic island £23

stoic island
#

mhm

#

it's good

grim pagoda
#

@stoic island also do you know if the logitech g pro x headset is good for gaming he is giving me them too for money

inland parrot
#

Hey should the psu fan face up or down

stoic island
grim pagoda
#

£90

stoic island
#

eek

#

it's 90gbp, but VAT might hike the price up really high

grim pagoda
#

I’ll check

whole harbor
#

@stoic island is seasonic a good brand for psus?

stoic island
whole harbor
#

Ok

stoic island
#

which PSU model

#

S12iii bad

#

throw in trash

stoic island
#

Yes

#

@whole harbor didn't I just say S12iii trash

whole harbor
#

oh lol

#

I didnt read it

#

The 9100f is better than the 3100

#

Right?

stoic island
#

in what way

#

upgradability no

#

cheap, not right now

#

When it was 75$ for the chip, it was cheaper and therefore better for cheap builds

#

now it's 110$

solar sigil
#

whats wrong with the 512iii?

#

does it explode?

stoic island
#

more like a N3

#

aka, more the burning less blowing up

whole harbor
#

rate that

stoic island
#

(Not quite bad enough to blow up, but still really bad)

#

smh

#

just use 3100+b550m hdv at that point

whole harbor
#

Me?

stoic island
#

MSI AMD cards aren't great

whole harbor
#

Who?

stoic island
#

who else

#

it's general advice

whole harbor
#

So if i get the 9400f

#

it has low upgradability

#

i could just sell it and build another in the future tbh

ripe gulch
whole harbor
#

Whats ur budget?

#

@ripe gulch

ripe gulch
#

Around 1200

whole harbor
#

K

solar sigil
#

Not really an intel guy so cant comment on this one

stoic island
#

don't mind if I

#

:)

solar sigil
#

wait @stoic island where your copy of windows! that'll puts you over budget steveconfused

stoic island
#

@ripe gulch So, why Intel, why the AIO, and what's the purpose?

#

lol

#

@solar sigil 5$ ebay windows key

solar sigil
#

madlad

stoic island
#

they look like this
VK7JG-NPHTM-C97JM-9MPGT-3V66T

#

:D

#

no need for the full 100$ to microsoft

solar sigil
ripe gulch
#

I heard intel was good enough, AIO for saving space, and generally just for work I may need to do and gaming

stoic island
#

lmao

whole harbor
#

Mr111 just made your pc 10x better

#

Bruh

stoic island
#

Intel has became the 'good enough' chip maker now eh?

#

that's a fun turnaround

solar sigil
#

Id go AMD if youre dropping 1200

stoic island
#

@ripe gulch what specific workloads?

solar sigil
#

good question

whole harbor
#

anime binge watchibg

agile rivet
whole harbor
#

LUL

agile rivet
#

Ping me plz if you gonna reply for me.

whole harbor
#

Bruh wat

#

I had a seizure reading that

solar sigil
#

Id rather not download a file

#

can you provide a pcpartpicker link or a newegg builder link

#

@agile rivet

whole harbor
#

Wats ur budget @agile rivet

agile rivet
#

Didnt know until now, My father said Max is 1k.

ripe gulch
#

If I said enough to have more than two tabs of chrome open would you laugh at me @stoic island

whole harbor
#

Ok bet

#

One sec

balmy patio
#

oh thats easy

agile rivet
#

@solar sigil How I do this? I download it as PDF from New egg Pc builder.

stoic island
#

@ripe gulch then AMD time

whole harbor
#

@agile rivet its fine

#

Well send u a link

balmy patio
#

@agile rivet use pcpartpicker.com , they offer more products from a variety of retailers

stoic island
agile rivet
#

More then New egg?

balmy patio
#

so you're not limited to only buying from newegg

stoic island
#

Mhm

#

Newegg, Amazon, B&H, Bestbuy, etc.

whole harbor
#

Better deals

agile rivet
#

Okay.

#

I building new one on Pc(site)

stoic island
ripe gulch
#

I'm not really sure, I'm relatively new to computer stuff but it looks good to me

plush mist
#

wait

agile rivet
#

30USD more..

balmy patio
#

dang pricing went back up for the 3600 again

#

its normally like 199 dollars

plush mist
#

3070 in 1000 dollar.................................

#

omg

#

i regret my life decisions

balmy patio
#

yesterday there was one for like 195 iirc

plush mist
#

kmn

#

i spent 1000 for r5 3600 and 2060

agile rivet
#

Lmao RTX 3080 @stoic island My friend you put super Graphic cart and rest correctly dead.

stoic island
#

hm?

#

@agile rivet what

#

super graphic cart and rest correctly dead?

agile rivet
#

Nvm

stoic island
#

they're coming in stock if that's what you're asking about

#

a good few were in stock yesterday

stone pine
#

I'm waiting for the 6800

#

I was gonna get a 3070 but I missed it by about 30 seconds at a memory express

#

then the RX 6000 benchmarks got released and I was like damn

thorny fulcrum
#

why get a 6800 when u can spend 50$ more and get a 6800xt

vital warren
#

6800 = 579 and 6800xt = 649

stone pine
#

xt is 50 more?

#

Must have forgot

ebon matrix
#

if you got 2000$ to build a full setup with keyboard mic etc

#

what would the list be

vital warren
#

$1500 3080 + r5 5600x build $300 monitor and the rest towards peripherals

ebon matrix
#

ok

plush mist
#

200 for peripherals?

balmy patio
#

yeah, mic, headphones, keyboard, mouse, etc

plush mist
#

if you're looking for epic setup, id leave 200-300

stoic island
#

hm

plush mist
#

for peripherals

#

but just my opinion

stoic island
#

ebic setup would be like 300$

plush mist
#

yea

stoic island
#

gmmk (at least the price), PC37x, model o

#

110$, 120$, 60$

plush mist
#

g pro

#

nvm

stone pine
#

I got Arctis 5, Razer Seiren X, Razer Blackwidow TE v2 and Razer Deathadder v2

plush mist
#

nice

whole harbor
#

bruh

#

I have a g203

#

rk61 gateron brown

#

razer kraken x

#

And a chromebook

balmy patio
#

do you game using geforce now or sum

vital warren
#

nice i have a cheap reddragon mouse corsair voids and a really old razer ornada chroma

whole harbor
#

i cant its a school one

#

they block everything

plush mist
#

ayyy same, cheap reddragon mouse gang

#

bought mine for 10 dollars

whole harbor
#

i can only play coolmath

hearty mist
#

best value z390 mobo? please quick answers

balmy patio
#

lmao cheap redragon mouse, can relate

glass depot
#

what mouse would y’all prefer

balmy patio
#

that

#

or the g502

glass depot
#

Thank u

balmy patio
#

but thats my opinion, you do you

hoary vector
#

hello

balmy patio
#

hey

weak field
#

heyyo

hoary vector
#

is this an actual giveaway

#

or a scam

balmy patio
#

what is

deep skiff
#

its a skam

hoary vector
stone pine
#

If you're wanting wireless, check out the new Rival 3 wireless

#

Pretty sure SteelSeries is also making a honeycomb version of it

#

Seems pretty sick imo

uncut pelican
weak field
#

dang

#

elite

stone pine
uncut pelican
#

Nice

#

I like the white

pseudo forge
#

Im getting that for my build too

stone pine
#

It looks hella clean

pseudo forge
#

I got the pc o11 so I need more fans

stoic island
#

..

stone pine
#

Ooo, I got the Corsair iCue 465x

#

In white

stoic island
#

mf120s or whatever they're called

stone pine
#

I got 6 LL120s lmao

hazy rune
#

PC-011 has terrible support for air coolers

#

So, not my thing

weak field
#

halo nice

stoic island
#

mhm

pseudo forge
#

LL120 hoping they’ll be discounted on Black Friday

#

Does anyone know if it’s possible to get just the pump of the nzxt kraken z73

stone pine
#

Used maybe

#

Like the waterblock?

#

Or pump and rad

#

block and rad*

pseudo forge
#

Yeah it has a customisable screen so I want one

#

But it costs a lot

stone pine
#

It's not worth it in my opinion

#

Performance isn't that great for such an expensive aio

#

But if you got the cash then go for it ig

solar sigil
#

late lunches are weird

pulsar igloo
#

what is better intel or amd

stone pine
#

AMD

#

The answer used to be "Depends on what you're looking for" blah blah blah

#

Now it's just AMD

pulsar igloo
#

for like call of duty

#

and streaming

next kestrel
#

amd if u can find it in stock

vivid shuttle
#

can yall give me a build with i7 9700k

next kestrel
#

5600x

#

@vivid shuttle are u near MC?

vivid shuttle
#

yee

next kestrel
#

cool, find a cheap Z390 board in stock and just buy the bundle

#

also u kinda need a budget

late ravine
#

hey my friend is trying to switch to PC, but he wants to buy a prebuilt bc he doesn't want to go through the hassle of building one himself

#

any good deals/ kinds of prebuilts anywhere from 800-1200 dollars

split furnace
#

Nzxt bld

fading kiln
#

got the first batch of my parts woooooo

#

CPU next

stoic island
#

nice

fading kiln
#

i havent been this excited and anxious at the same time

vivid shuttle
#

@next kestrel around 1000

vital warren
#

I just need cpu and gpu now ;p

whole harbor
#

I need a pc

#

Lul

solar sigil
#

@late ravine I would recommend looking around at some of the AMD builds that have been posted here from users like Mr1111 and the likes.

#

if you want to put together a pcpartlist and get some advise I think we could help a lot more then

#

Oh sorry i cant read, you want prebuilt

#

Microcenter can have some gem prebuilts if you have one nearby

sharp tundra
green kestrel
#

poggers

#

did you just unbox it?

sharp tundra
#

Yup

green kestrel
#

nice

sharp tundra
#

But now time to put it back in the box cause I can't use it right now

green kestrel
#

what did you upgrade from

#

oh

#

rip

#

but yeah what did you upgrade from

sharp tundra
#

Nothing

green kestrel
#

oh

#

eh still pog

solar sigil
#

pretty pog price/performance

grim pagoda
#

Can I get a 1440p monitor for a i5-10400 // 5700 xt gaming X build?

sharp tundra
#

Tf is a gaming X build?

simple turtle
#

its the gpu

#

5700 xt gaming X

green kestrel
#

lmao

#

Can I get a 1440p monitor for a i5-10400 // 5700 xt gaming X build?
@grim pagoda if you're planning to game at 1440p then sure go for it

solar sigil
#

cool little tool I found

green kestrel
#

lol

#

but yeah if you have the extra money try to get the 10600k insteda

floral tapir
#

could someone tell me if this build is good

#

and compatible

grim pagoda
#

@green kestrel ye I’m just worried that I am better gaming at 1080p but people say to me you can game well with i510400 and the 5700xt gaming x at 1440p so not sure

raw elk
#

seems fine to me Novel

solar sigil
#

@floral tapir its compatible, not sure how I feel about that specific psu and that m.2

grim pagoda
#

@solar sigil it says some games it bottlenecks the 5700xt by 14% is that a lot or no?

#

In terms of performance is that a big hit like

raw elk
#

you sure you want a sata ssd and not an m.2

solar sigil
#

not a ton but the CPU is the bottleneck not the GPU

floral tapir
#

@solar sigil i dont know what psu i need

raw elk
#

I think I messed up words

floral tapir
#

i just picked one that was fully modular

raw elk
#

I would wait on buying the cpu as they have gone up in price a little

#

guess I was wrong

solar sigil
#

less storage but you can easily throw in a SSD if you need more storage down the line, use the saved cash to upgrade your GPU

next mulch
grim pagoda
#

If I get a 1440p monitor is there any point in getting a 144hz one as I probably won’t be able to reach that performance

solar sigil
#

Youll be able to use it later down the line if you upgrade your rig

floral tapir
#

ok but isnt it slower

boreal merlin
#

hello

#

im new

#

can someone help me with my build?

small osprey
#

Wassup

#

Post it

still roostBOT
#
J_C___#8947 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

solar sigil
#

henh?

boreal merlin
floral tapir
#

it atually might be faster

#

is it?

solar sigil
#

It looks to me like the Crucial one is faster

floral tapir
#

2x

solar sigil
#

some reason I cant copy and paste the specs cause its duplicated text

floral tapir
#

i see the spects

solar sigil
#

@boreal merlin What do you need help with?

boreal merlin
floral tapir
#

thats expensib

solar sigil
#

@boreal merlin Looks fine compatibility wise, although I might recommend looking for a different motherboard/cpu in general since as these are incredibly expensive

floral tapir
#

what u running, pp suck 2

ivory dove
#

Anyone know of a good build for warcraft? 😮

boreal merlin
#

@solar sigil wich one would you recommend? i dont know to much about computers

solar sigil
#

What are you planning on using this for? gaming streaming?

floral tapir
#

@boreal merlin unless ur a million i do not suggest that

boreal merlin
#

@solar sigil yes

floral tapir
#

and ye if ur going to game, stream watch a movie and play vr at the same time i dont suggest that

solar sigil
#

what makes you say that Novel?

floral tapir
#

would 8 cores be just as good for streaming and 32 gb of ram

boreal merlin
#

okeey, what do you recommend me? @floral tapir

floral tapir
#

ITS A 4k build

#

i dont know

#

im just as new

solar sigil
#

Well we dont really know what they NEED to get out of it

floral tapir
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if u have the money go for ut

ebon matrix
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whats a good card for Rust Overwatch Csgo

raw elk
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$4,200 is alot for a person who says they don't know alot about computers

solar sigil
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Quite a few of them lol Cin, whats your budget

ebon matrix
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for gpu 300-400

floral tapir
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bruv lower ur cores to 8

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and ur budget for motherboard to >250

boreal merlin
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@raw elk im just asking, whats the correct price for eath component?

vital warren
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If you are putting a build together please format it in pcpartpicker as it is easier for us to pick apart

raw elk
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really the motherboard is more about the features you wan't

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one question what do you mean by "eath component"

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each?

boreal merlin
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each, sorry

raw elk
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again that's heavily dependent on what gpu and cpu you have

boreal merlin
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want a 3080

raw elk
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well I am not totally sure about the 3080's needs

solar sigil
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and for nearly half the price of the other build!

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@ebon matrix i think a 1660 super for the right price would do you fine

green kestrel
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meh

solar sigil
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pretty decent, see if you can find any 2060s for less than 400 im sure those are out there

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anything less than 350 is priced ok

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if you want to spend more that is

simple turtle
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ehhhhhh

green kestrel
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pretty decent, see if you can find any 2060s for less than 400 im sure those are out there
@solar sigil yeah

solar sigil
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ehhhhhh
@simple turtle whats up?

simple turtle
ebon matrix
vital warren
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what about it

raw mist
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@ebon matrix dont go 2060 lol

raw elk
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but money

ebon matrix
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yea

solar sigil
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@ebon matrix What made you choose that mobo?

ebon matrix
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idk

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ohh ik wifi

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@solar sigil

little osprey
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rate my buil

solar sigil
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its a little more expensive but it would allow you to upgrade your cpu down the line a lot easier

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@little osprey budget, uses?

little osprey
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620

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gaming

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1080 p

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PRO gamer settings

weak field
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@little osprey theres a b550m ds3h version thats b550 and 10$ more

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yes a b550 version thats b550

solar sigil
ebon matrix
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what about a wifi adapter @solar sigil

weak field
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rip pokecord discord server

little osprey
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is their anywhere i can improve it

ebon matrix
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ok

little osprey
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o why

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o why