building-and-recc-chat

[hoary lichen]

Some dude sent it earlier when i asked for a 700 dollar build

[stoic island]

what

[hoary lichen]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z2Rp2V

[stoic island]

meh

I'd do some edits

[hoary lichen]

Didnt you send me one before?

[warm sky]

not bad

[hoary lichen]

What possible edits could i make?

[stoic island]

smth like this maybe
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RfWZwz

[hoary lichen]

Isnt that the same thing

[stoic island]

smh

look at it

[hoary lichen]

Oh you changed the power supply

[stoic island]

GPU

[hoary lichen]

[brittle tinsel]

heres my edit to your edit @stoic island what do you think?
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/broslays/saved/#view=qWVzf7

[stoic island]

@brittle tinsel imo, screw o11

there's nothing good about it that I like

[warm sky]

what do you hate about the o11 lol

[brittle tinsel]

ive heard its a good case with lots of room

[stoic island]

"a lot of room"

and can't fit good air coolers

[hoary lichen]

Alr

[stoic island]

smh

[hoary lichen]

Thx for the edit

Brb im gonna go benchmark it brb

[stoic island]

like come on

155mm cooler clearance

you can't have a nh-u14s or anything above

not a drp4

pretty sure not a dr4 either

it's just why

it's "big" looking for no reason

[brittle tinsel]

what is a nhu14 or the rest you just named?

fans or rads?

[stoic island]

Good coolers

Air coolers

[brittle tinsel]

would the ARCTIC LIQUID FREEZER II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
be able to handle the cpu and therest of the case?

or do i need to look for fans

[stoic island]

..

look

it comes with no included fans

also, freezer ii is already overkill

[brittle tinsel]

i know that

overkill?

[foggy hazel]

simple question for you @brittle tinsel : do you have 200 usd you can spare for no practical reason?

[stoic island]

it's a really good cooler

[hoary lichen]

Lmao my dad just offered me 100 bucks to clean the garage 💀

[brittle tinsel]

simple question for you @brittle tinsel : do you have 200 usd you can spare for no practical reason?
@foggy hazel hit or miss really, i just would be happier with something aesthetic and performs well vs ugly and performs well

[foggy hazel]

is that a yes or a no?

[brittle tinsel]

if i had to pick a side...... no 😦

[foggy hazel]

then congrats, dont take that case

its simply too expensive to get "up to speed"

[stoic island]

anyways

[foggy hazel]

nothing prevents you from getting it down the line

back to you @stoic island :)

[hoary lichen]

Just dont buy a case

[stoic island]

but just as an example of how good the cooler is, GN is currently using a freezer ii 360mm with 10900kf for their #ripjay OCing competition thing lol

I think they're doing 5.2ghz all core or smth, anyways

@brittle tinsel I personally don't like throwing money at things that doesn't give me performance

with that extra money

you can get a 3080

which you really should be getting at like 1800usd lel

[warm sky]

yeh

[brittle tinsel]

which one between these 2?

im not finding the founders edtion\

[harsh juniper]

I finally got my hands on RTX3070 and recently built a rig for the first time. Is my 850W PSU ''safe'' to keep or should I upgrade to a 1k+W one.

[stoic island]

@brittle tinsel with the monies, you might want to get a 3080

@harsh juniper you know that a 550w is good enough for a 3070 depending on the setup right?

[brittle tinsel]

ill just stick with the 3070, the 3080 puts me slightly over the preferred budget

[stoic island]

oh well

prob xc3

because EVGA has the pre-order thingy

[harsh juniper]

Well I think it is yes, but my friend tells me I might be wrong.
i9-9900K Coffee Lake
Asus Prime z390A1
corsair hydro series H100i
2x 2x8GB corsair vengeance ram sticks
PSU is thermaltake toughpower GF1 850W

@stoic island

[stoic island]

850w works fine

[harsh juniper]

Thanks mate

[stoic island]

I'd say 650w works fine with that stock, maybe 750w with oc headroom

[warm sky]

has wifi

[stoic island]

It lets you use wifi

Mobo without wifi has to either use ethernet or get a wifi card

[warm sky]

otherwise you'll need a wifi card

well...you wont have to use a pcie slot for wifi

wired

so if you need wifi, get a wifi board

[brittle tinsel]

wow, everyone is sold out of the 3000 series cards

[warm sky]

just simpler

wow, everyone is sold out of the 3000 series cards
always have been

[harsh juniper]

Legend says they never were available

[stoic island]

Ethernet > Wifi

[warm sky]

well...it'll probably be better but if your ISP isn't giving you high speeds it can't fix that

[still roost]

Darkraingamer#0002 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[warm sky]

or if your router is bad

[brittle tinsel]

what preorder thing were you talking about @stoic island

[warm sky]

angrrr swear words are part of my culture

[stoic island]

https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=0&family=GeForce+30+Series+Family&chipset=RTX+3070

[warm sky]

What did u say for that to happen? Lol
just said "or if your router is sh**ty"

uhh the gaming F has a wifi ver

what CPU tho?

b550 F Wifi I'd say

very nice b550 board with wifi and a lot of other features

[whole harbor]

Hi

[warm sky]

there are more budget boards, but the b550 F will last you a long time

[whole harbor]

Yall need help

[warm sky]

Hi
Howdy

[whole harbor]

[warm sky]

uhh that looks very good imo, but you might wanna see if you can get a larger PSU with how the 3000 series cards like to have spikes in power draw

yeh that'd be great

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dJmFf7/thermaltake-toughpower-gf1-pe-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-tpd-0750fnfagu-1
something like this

same model of psu just higher wattage

[rustic sandal]

@brittle tinsel I have g.skill triden z rgb in my O11 dynamic with a top mounted 360mm AIO. With a full atx board. So you should be good, especially if you’re getting micro atx!

[warm sky]

[brittle tinsel]

@brittle tinsel I have g.skill triden z rgb in my O11 dynamic with a top mounted 360mm AIO. With a full atx board. So you should be good, especially if you’re getting micro atx!
@rustic sandal ?

[balmy patio]

you should prolly get an enermax df @vital jacinth

[vital warren]

enermax revolution d.f

850w 80+ gold

cheaper

[warm sky]

@vital jacinth there are cheaper options however, that one is $150 for a PSU

EVGA supernova GA is another alright one

[balmy patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MJvKp2

[rustic sandal]

Get the Corsair RMx instead, it’s the same price for a slight jump in quality

[balmy patio]

that's the list with the enermax @vital jacinth

[vital warren]

rmx is another 15 you'll be fine with enermax

[warm sky]

yeh

cheaper

the one joesr sent

[whole harbor]

It says

Something isn’t compatible

[vital warren]

ignore that

[warm sky]

yeh

it's fine

[vital warren]

pcpp is dumb with compatibility

[whole harbor]

K

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6J4RTJ

Is this worth upgrading to

5 3600

[warm sky]

you've got the old PSU in there but yes

[vital warren]

the cpu gives the same performance dulvn

in gaming

[whole harbor]

oh oops

3300x has like no stock

[prisma stag]

can someone give me tech support l3l

[whole harbor]

It should be 3 3100

@vital warren

[vital warren]

r3 3100 is like r5 2600 in performance

iirc

[whole harbor]

3600

@vital warren

[warm sky]

I've been tempted to get a 3100 for my 2nd pc to replace the i7 3770

[whole harbor]

not 2600

[vital warren]

no 3300x = 3600

3100 is just a cheaper 2600

[whole harbor]

Ik but 3300x has no stock

like none

[vital warren]

well yeah

so just get 3100 then

[whole harbor]

K

[vital warren]

cheap and solid

[whole harbor]

But is it worth upgradeing

To 3600

?

[vital warren]

eh

i'll check something

[whole harbor]

K

Wait is the 5600xt and 3 3100 a good combo

Or wil it bottleneck

[vital warren]

you'll be okay

bottleneck dumb word

[whole harbor]

Ok

[prisma stag]

can someone help, when i turn on my computer and try to log into windows i have 2 of the same exact emails to log into

[vital warren]

the 3600 is a pretty large step up in like esport titles gaming perf wise it seems

[prisma stag]

and i just want one

[vital warren]

you could just wait for the r5 3600 to drop back down to 150 on sale or something and get it then

better for budget

[whole harbor]

K

[prisma stag]

pls

[tame reef]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811853087

what do you guys think about this case ?

[weak field]

pretty nice looking

[tame reef]

Right ?

[weak field]

is the front panel a vent or for cosmetic

[tame reef]

i feel like it would be good in a future build

Just a vent

The airflow looks good in it

[weak field]

yeah

id install a higher rpm fan in the back as more of a exhaust

i bet its just a stock 200-1000/1500

idk tho

[tame reef]

Im kind of wondering if the case will go lower

DO you think a Noctua dh15 will fit in i t

[weak field]

private

if its 120mm then yeah @tame reef

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VBbjZZ getting ready for godfall

[weak field]

fans are um pretty hideous but there cheap and work

[tame reef]

hmmm

i gotta see how big it is damn

[weak field]

most are either 140mm or 120mm

[little osprey]

theyre 140

[weak field]

most common but might be something else

[tame reef]

i mean idk if pcpartpicker can help but it says everything is compatible

[weak field]

yup

all good

intel side yeah?

[hoary cloak]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qnkqp2 is this a good build?

[tame reef]

yeah

[vital warren]

woah

let me do a little editing

[weak field]

alienware waaaaayyy toooooo expensive

[hoary cloak]

tru

[weak field]

just because it looks like its from men in black doesnt make it worth that much ^cough cough dell^

[tame reef]

John you trying be a streamer ?

[weak field]

remember us

[vital warren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d8JVwz a few small edits

[tame reef]

i saw a camera , unless you need it just for zoom

[vital warren]

you guys help this guy i gotta go

[weak field]

ok homeboy

john what you wanna change

actually wait

whatchyo budget

[tame reef]

whats the build for also ?

gaming and streaming ?

[weak field]

zoom and microsoft word

just joking

[tame reef]

hehe

unless..

[hoary cloak]

gaming @tame reef

i already have it i just added it on

[tame reef]

wait you have all the parts already ?

[hoary cloak]

i have everything but the ssd and cpu

[weak field]

so its fine then

[idle hawk]

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/35150411

[hoary cloak]

ight

[weak field]

should prolly return the keyboard for a cheaper one and better quality

just joking

[hoary cloak]

i have the keyboard already

i bought prebuilt a few years ago and im upgrading

after i realized i cant get higher than 70 fps on rocket league lol

[whole harbor]

Yall need help

?

[barren crypt]

1 - 10 for 1440p ultra https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/swYrDc

[whole harbor]

K

Im no pro but i think a good 8.5

[odd crypt]

Like 9

[whole harbor]

@weak field

rate it

@vital warren

[weak field]

pretty decent for 1440p

could change some things but itd cost more

like a aio

[barren crypt]

already overbudget

by like

50 pounds

well

150 but

my overbudget budget was 1500

[whole harbor]

Tbh

[weak field]

cheaper 2070supers

unless you like that one for the looks

[whole harbor]

U can save $30

With the cpu cooler

[weak field]

performance>cosmetics

yeha

wait no

[whole harbor]

And use the stock one

Maybe

[weak field]

5000 dont come with a cooler

[whole harbor]

Oh loo

That sucks

[weak field]

from what ive heard

correct me if im wrong

[icy cipher]

For a build that expensive I would go for a ryzen 7

[barren crypt]

ok

i can get a 3700x

forcheaper

[weak field]

new gen 7

i forget the number

i think its 5800x

no

[barren crypt]

bruh

thats too expensive

[whole harbor]

Lol

[barren crypt]

i can get a 3700x

[whole harbor]

U can get a 5 3600

[icy cipher]

I would also reccomend getting an NVMe ssd instead of SATA

[whole harbor]

People been using that with the 3070

@weak field is the 5 3600 good with the 2070 super

[barren crypt]

NVMe ssd

[whole harbor]

Because ppl use it with 3070

[barren crypt]

alr

[weak field]

yeah

[barren crypt]

i mean

whats the diff between sata and nvme

[weak field]

maybe bottleneck if you run a oc one

[whole harbor]

2600 cost $200 usd

[weak field]

nvme fast

[whole harbor]

I mean 3600

[weak field]

yeah

[icy cipher]

NVMe has faster speeds

[barren crypt]

hmm

[weak field]

no?

[barren crypt]

ok

[weak field]

sata ssd slower than nvme

[west coral]

xD

[weak field]

oh you fixed it

[icy cipher]

sorry i meant nvme

[barren crypt]

how about m.2

[west coral]

Stealth edit XD

[weak field]

@whole harbor the 3600 might go on sale for bf or cm

[barren crypt]

wait is

m.2 NVM

e

[weak field]

doubt it ccz it already price dropped

[whole harbor]

@weak field i dont think he should get 3600 anymore

[weak field]

nvme= s p e e d

[whole harbor]

He id using 1440p

I dont think it can handle it

[barren crypt]

so like

[weak field]

s p e e d= m o r e money

[barren crypt]

a crucial p1

[whole harbor]

Whats he looking for?

[weak field]

3600 can handle 1440p

not aswell as some of the other cpus

[barren crypt]

guys please

[weak field]

but still can

[barren crypt]

crucial p1?

[weak field]

crucial p2 cheaper

[barren crypt]

is it better

[weak field]

but i think the p1 is faster not real sure tho

[earnest olive]

recommend team mp34 over crucial p1

[cursive magnet]

@whole harbor Check this out on @Newegg: AMD RYZEN 5 3400G 4-Core 3.7 GHz (4.2 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W YD3400C5FHBOX Desktop Processor https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-5-3400g/p/N82E16819113570?Item=N82E16819113570&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-19-113-570-_-11082020

[barren crypt]

also no it isnt cheaper

[whole harbor]

TEAMGROUP MP34 512GB NVMe PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 Solid State Drive SSD TM8FP4512G0C101 (Read/Write Speed up to 3,000/1,700 MB/s) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PHMJR4Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_fBdQFbP54MNAK?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[barren crypt]

mp34 ok

[whole harbor]

Thats good ssd

[weak field]

ok

[barren crypt]

ouch mp34 expensive

[earnest olive]

team mp34 is a fantastic ssd

[weak field]

yes

[barren crypt]

is the 256gb enough for windows files?

[weak field]

im pretty sure

[barren crypt]

alr

[earnest olive]

windows takes about 30-40gb

[barren crypt]

so its fine

[icy cipher]

btw you dont really need 650 watts unless your planning to upgrade later, then its always good to have extra

[weak field]

and then the drivers

[barren crypt]

im upgrading later

[earnest olive]

so 256gb is enough for windows and several games/software

[barren crypt]

alr cool

since im upgrading later i might uh

[whole harbor]

@cursive magnet thats worse than the 3100

[barren crypt]

get a better cpu

[whole harbor]

And more expensive

[earnest olive]

the crucial p2 is not garbage... but the team mp34 is definitely worth the higher price over it

[barren crypt]

sips

[earnest olive]

team mp34 is still very reasonably priced

[barren crypt]

for the future

can a 3700x and a 3060/70 not bottleneck

[earnest olive]

why 3700x over 5600x?

[barren crypt]

idk

overbudget

[earnest olive]

they are the same price

[weak field]

more cores and threads> over speed??

[whole harbor]

@weak field will a 3100 and 5600xt bottleneck?

[weak field]

nah

[barren crypt]

the 5600x is like

[weak field]

maybe just a lil

[barren crypt]

40 more

[whole harbor]

Ok good

[weak field]

if it does not gonna lose much

[earnest olive]

5600x multicore is within spitting distance of the 3700x

don't be too obsessed with the number of cores

it's 6 stronger cores vs 8 weaker cores

[barren crypt]

fair but like

if i get the 5600x im overbudget

by a mile

i mean sure i can try

[cursive magnet]

@cursive magnet thats worse than the 3100 Holy cow.

[earnest olive]

where do you live? i see the 3700X at $305 and the 5600X at $299 currently

[barren crypt]

what

[weak field]

you could go with a cheaper cpu and save money to start to save for a 5600c

x

[barren crypt]

in the uk the 5600x is £311 and the 3700x is £270

[earnest olive]

what's your full part list

[whole harbor]

Get the 3600

[barren crypt]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/t7yfvf

[earnest olive]

easiest solution is to skip the cpu cooler

[whole harbor]

Bruh wat

[earnest olive]

ryzen 5 5600x draws even less power than the ryzen 5 3600

will run perfectly fine on stock cooler

[whole harbor]

Lol

[earnest olive]

and it's an easy upgrade down the line

[barren crypt]

i thought the 5600x doesnt come with a stock cooler

[earnest olive]

it does

it's the only ryzen 5000 to include one

[barren crypt]

oh yoda said it didnt

[whole harbor]

Yoda lmfao

[earnest olive]

ryzen 5 5600x has a 76W PPT, the wraith stealth can handle that without issue

[barren crypt]

expert

[earnest olive]

for reference the ryzen 5 3600 has a 88W PPT and has the same cooler

[barren crypt]

expert

[whole harbor]

can i get some bleach too daddy🥴

[barren crypt]

what else

[earnest olive]

the stock cooler will even be good enough for some overclocking

so if you leave out the aftermarket cooler that gives you some budget headroom

[barren crypt]

what else with the list

[weak field]

no cooler

[barren crypt]

bruh yoda

the champion said the 5600x comes with one

[weak field]

i dont think they do

they might

i meant dont buy the cooler by no cooler when i said that

[earnest olive]

I'm not sure buying a new 2070 super to upgrade it to a 3070 is a great idea considering the 3070 is already out and has better availability than the 3080/3090

[weak field]

losing out a lot of performance for that proce point

[whole harbor]

It does

[earnest olive]

strongly disagree with that writeup

[weak field]

yea

[earnest olive]

I've personally done customer builds using 3600 and stock cooler with manual overclock to 4ghz all core and was perfectly fine

[barren crypt]

well i wont upgrade to a 3070 then

[weak field]

bang

[barren crypt]

is the list done bleach

[weak field]

no

far

cheaper 2070

by far

[whole harbor]

Holy cow

[earnest olive]

you would be better served just looking for a 3070 for the next few days

[whole harbor]

We have a guy who actually builds them as work

[weak field]

yeah

[whole harbor]

Hes a pro

[barren crypt]

i cant afford it

[whole harbor]

🙂

[weak field]

its 500

[earnest olive]

is it more expensive in the UK?

[whole harbor]

Eu ppl are rich holy cow

[barren crypt]

its like

£552 here the cheapest one

and that one has no reviews

[earnest olive]

I'm in the US so I am not familiar with UK prices

[barren crypt]

552 pounds is like

600 dollars

[earnest olive]

okay how about this

[barren crypt]

726

actually

[weak field]

pounds of gold

[whole harbor]

Bruhhhhh

[barren crypt]

yeah

[earnest olive]

upgrade the team mp34 to 512gb (doesn't cost much more), leave out the hard drive for now, and grab a 3070

[weak field]

dang bruh yall all messed up

dont need that much space to start

[earnest olive]

the amount of money you'd lose upgrading a 2070 super to a 3070 is far more than buying a hard drive later

and hard drive is an easy upgrade

[weak field]

download a few games and when your done with them unistall and theyll go to steam library so you can download them again

[barren crypt]

actually the GPU upgrade is about 100 dollars more

[whole harbor]

vahahdhdjudjy

[earnest olive]

I'm seeing the 2070 super at 490 gbp in your list

[whole harbor]

incant

[barren crypt]

thats

[earnest olive]

compared to 552 for a 3070

[barren crypt]

640 dollars

thats 720 dollars

[earnest olive]

that's pretty much the price of the hard drive

the difference

[barren crypt]

the hard drive was half that price

[earnest olive]

did you get it for cheaper than the list cause I'm going off the prices on the list

[whole harbor]

@earnest olive since ur a pro and all so rate this LUL https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z2Rp2V

[barren crypt]

no i didnt

[earnest olive]

consider that if you buy a 2070 super now and upgrade to a 3070 later you're going to lose something like 200 gbp selling the old 2070 super

[barren crypt]

fair enough

[whole harbor]

🤚

[earnest olive]

strongly recommend skipping hard drive for later in order to squeeze in the 3070

[weak field]

yeah

dulvn its good

[barren crypt]

hmm

[earnest olive]

it is a much easier upgrade than selling old gpu for new gpu

[whole harbor]

Ik but he actually works

[barren crypt]

now im 71 pounds overbudget

[whole harbor]

So i wanna see what he thinks

[barren crypt]

well

over the overbudget budget

[whole harbor]

[earnest olive]

@whole harbor why is this 16gb ram $144?

[whole harbor]

It isnt

[barren crypt]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/43BPXb

so this wont like

[whole harbor]

bruh

[barren crypt]

bottlenekc

[earnest olive]

this is what i see

pcpp malfunction?

[barren crypt]

3200 CL16 for 144

lol

[whole harbor]

[earnest olive]

anyways this module is currently $58

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hJGfvf

[barren crypt]

get crucial ballistix

[earnest olive]

the rest of the list looks fine

[barren crypt]

i wouldnt take my advice without confirmation from someone else but

for like 10 dollars more you can get 3600 CL16 memory

[whole harbor]

Whats the ram differ ce

Difference

[barren crypt]

faster

[earnest olive]

a few fps

depends on if you have the budget headroom or not

[barren crypt]

for 10 dollars a few more fps is great

[earnest olive]

itzi what is your budget exactly?

[barren crypt]

well it was £1400

then i went overbudget

and my new budget was £1500

and now the price is

£1571

god ill try to explain it

[earnest olive]

hmm

[weak field]

pounds

[earnest olive]

one more extreme step you could take if you can't afford 1571... buy a basic monitor while you save up more money, then buy this better monitor later and run dual monitor setup

[barren crypt]

my desk can barely fit my pc and one monitor

[earnest olive]

i just really strongly recommend against buying the 2070 super if you can help it

since its resale value is not good

another option is to get a ryzen 3 3100 to begin with and then drop in a ryzen 5 5600x later, ryzen 3 3100 has pretty good resale value

[cursive magnet]

Wqhd vs IPS? Why?

[earnest olive]

what do you mean by WQHD vs IPS?

WQHD is a resolution, IPS is a panel type

apples to oranges

[weak field]

bruh moments

[earnest olive]

you can buy a monitor that is both WQHD and IPS

[weak field]

that is factual

[cursive magnet]

@earnest olive finally found the panel type of the monitor. It’s a VA

[earnest olive]

a... bad?

oh

[cursive magnet]

Check this out on @Newegg: GIGABYTE G32QC 32" 165Hz 1440P Curved Gaming Monitor, 2560 x 1440 VA 1500R Display, 1ms(MPRT), 94% DCI-P3, VESA Display HDR400, FreeSync Premium Pro, 1x Display Port 1.2, 2x HDMI 2.0, 2x USB 3.0 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012012?Item=N82E16824012012&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-24-012-012-_-11082020

[earnest olive]

i have the 27" version of this monitor

it's a good monitor

[cursive magnet]

Only 20$ more than the G27Q

[weak field]

thats the one i wanna buy

[earnest olive]

yeah, but i prefer 27" over 32"

[weak field]

yeah

[earnest olive]

doesn't hurt that i got it on sale for 280

[weak field]

i dont really like the larger monitors

[earnest olive]

27" at the same resolution means better pixel density, and 27" is plenty large for someone like me coming from laptops

[weak field]

i have eye problems and glasses so i dont wanna use a large monitor or run a dual display

[barren crypt]

ok with the master convincing statement:

[cursive magnet]

I play on laptop and 48” tv

[barren crypt]

spending 60 pounds more now can save you hundreds in the future

[earnest olive]

my old laptop is 15" 4K... talk about pixel density 😂

[barren crypt]

i think i can just just JUST fit the 3070 in

literally not a penny more

[weak field]

so when i search for monitor i do 24-30

[earnest olive]

yeah buying the 3070 now prevents you from losing 200 gbp later

so that's why i recommend making compromises on other aspects

[barren crypt]

hdd

next year im gonna get

a better cpu and hdd

and if i can fit it a 4k monitor

maybe a mobo

[earnest olive]

are you going the 3100 route or just going 5600X straight up?

[barren crypt]

5600

[earnest olive]

if you go 5600X you don't need a cpu upgrade for quite some time

[barren crypt]

ok

[little osprey]

can newegg ship to ireland??

[earnest olive]

considering it's quite a bit more powerful than the new console cpus

the 5600X should be good for 5 years or more

[barren crypt]

ok

[whole harbor]

@earnest olive

Is this good

AOC C24G1A 24" Curved Frameless Gaming Monitor, FHD 1920x1080, 1500R, VA, 1ms MPRT, 165Hz (144Hz supported), FreeSync Premium, Height adjustable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08D3Y5PFZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_fabc_51dQFb6HZFEZG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[earnest olive]

motherboard upgrade isn't strictly required as even the bottom b550 boards will be able to run a 5600X

but if you want higher end features it's not a bad idea

my experience as a former AOC owner is that their real response time is considerably higher than advertised

[barren crypt]

ok

[ebon matrix]

Ima build this for xmas gonna be my first https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KczMbh

[earnest olive]

the gigabyte monitors are closer to advertised

not a bad monitor by any means but the price is lower than the competition for a reason

@ebon matrix that ssd is really bad, swap it with a team mp34 500gb
monitor looks expensive for its specs
you can get same spec ram for cheaper

not a huge fan of the nzxt h510 but for these parts it will be fine

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TdTH2V consider these changes

[ebon matrix]

k

[brittle tinsel]

Which m.2 works with msi mag z490 tomahawk mobo

[small osprey]

Why not corsair 27hr airflow

[small osprey]

Or whatever it is

[earnest olive]

pretty much every ssd is m.2-2280

[small osprey]

And why not b550 board

[earnest olive]

if you're asking about ssds

[brittle tinsel]

Yeah

[small osprey]

With 3600cl16 ram

[brittle tinsel]

Ssd is what I’m looking for apparently m.2 and nvme are better than normal dads

[earnest olive]

probably budget constraints, similarly featured b550 boards to the tomahawk max are a bit more expensive

well... yes, nvme ssds are generally better at storing data than normal dads

[small osprey]

Dads?

[earnest olive]

[brittle tinsel]

Lmfao

[earnest olive]

also the b450 tomahawk max has pretty good ram support

[barren crypt]

sips is the list good

[earnest olive]

i ran 3800C16 on my b450 tomahawk max

[barren crypt]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/43BPXb

[earnest olive]

yeah looks good to me

[small osprey]

Yea

[earnest olive]

just drop in a hard drive down the line and you're set really

[small osprey]

Maybe get a better psu but its fine

And yea get some mass storage

[barren crypt]

better psu

im 171 pounds overbudget

[earnest olive]

super flower is a good brand

[small osprey]

Yea you dont rly need to change it

[earnest olive]

they are the OEM for EVGA

just less heard of in the states

i love the chinese companies with these wacky names lol

super flower makes me think of that boss from cuphead

this guy made your power supply 🙂

[small osprey]

Loll

[earnest olive]

interestingly their chinese name does not translate into "super flower"

[small osprey]

Did you use google translate

[earnest olive]

chinese is my first language 🙂

[small osprey]

Oh you chinese? Chinese gangg

[earnest olive]

振華電腦有限公司

[opal plank]

I’m Chinese I wish I knew it :(

[topaz coyote]

budget of 650 for a world of war CRAFT PC

[small osprey]

Thats their name?

[hoary lichen]

Guys should i buy pc parts 1 by one until i have enough money?

[small osprey]

No

Unless you are looking for deals

[hoary lichen]

Since i have 480 rn and my goal is 710

[earnest olive]

yeah that is their full chinese name

[small osprey]

You might get a bad part and you wont know until you buy everything

[earnest olive]

Zhenhua Computer Limited

[small osprey]

Yea

Where did they get superflower

[hoary lichen]

And its black friday and cyber monday

[earnest olive]

and it's not even the same "hua" as flower lol

[hoary lichen]

This friday

And next monday

[earnest olive]

the closest translation i can come up with is... resonating china

[ebon matrix]

so this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mWqk9N

[small osprey]

What

[earnest olive]

@hoary lichen if you're buying parts one by one just make sure you have all the parts before warranties expire

[hoary lichen]

Alr

[earnest olive]

there's always the risk of getting a bad part

[hoary lichen]

Yea some dude on yt got a cpu with a bent pin

He had to bend it the other way

Idk how it still worked

[earnest olive]

@ebon matrix you can save a bit by replacing the corsair ram with same spec 3200c16, no point paying for the corsair brand name
it's not worth adding front fans to the nzxt h510- it can actually make your temperatures worse since the nzxt h510 is designed to use negative pressure as opposed to traditional positive pressure

[weak field]

waaaaat

[earnest olive]

you can also take the cost of those fans and upgrade your ram to 3600c16

[hoary lichen]

Any suggestions? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RfWZwz

[earnest olive]

yes pins can be bent back as long as they're not broken

[hoary lichen]

Im gonna get a hard drive later on

[ebon matrix]

so just no fans

[earnest olive]

the case includes 2 fans

[hoary lichen]

2-3 fans is enough

[earnest olive]

adding more interferes with the design of the case

the nzxt h510 is a "form over function" case with a different design that renders traditional airflow design ineffective

[hoary lichen]

Tbh i dont really like nzxt cases

[small osprey]

Then why

[earnest olive]

i strongly dislike them but for a 1660 super it's alright

[hoary lichen]

Your choice tho

[barren crypt]

sips

the 3070 is a preorder do you know roughly the time it should deliver by

[little osprey]

How yall feel abot this

[barren crypt]

if i buyi t december 1st

[earnest olive]

@hoary lichen https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XcXH2V

a better model of 5600xt for cheaper, and then use the price difference to upgrade the ram to 3600c16

[hoary lichen]

[earnest olive]

that i can't say @barren crypt

[barren crypt]

will it deliver in the month

[hoary lichen]

Ima have to benchmark this builds

See which is best

[earnest olive]

3600mhz ram is a considerable performance uplift for ryzen

[weak field]

yue is bae?

isnt that dulvn list?

[earnest olive]

and sapphire pulse is a good model

[hoary lichen]

No

[barren crypt]

will it deliver in the month though its important

[earnest olive]

sapphire cards are legendary for a reason

[hoary lichen]

I was talking to dulvn earlier @weak field

[earnest olive]

@barren crypt you're gonna have to ask the retailer about that, i have no way of knowing

[hoary lichen]

I dont know where he went tho

[little osprey]

RX 5600 32 GBS BALLISTIC RAM RYZEN 5 3600 MSI B550PRO A

[earnest olive]

i am just an ordinary ignorant american who knows nothing about UK retailers 🙂

[small osprey]

Lmao

Same

[barren crypt]

the 3070 has no reviews

makes sense

is pny a trusted brand

[hoary lichen]

@earnest olive is it better to buy a power supply from best buy or online?

Some people say its cheaper in best buy

[earnest olive]

user reviews are not very important anyways

professional reviews are much more worth your time

[barren crypt]

alright

but is pny a trusted brand

[earnest olive]

well.. just compare the prices between best buy and online

[hoary lichen]

[barren crypt]

best buy

[hoary lichen]

Smart idea

[barren crypt]

im in the uk

[earnest olive]

yeah PNY has been around for a while, they're generally more of a budget option but they are not bad

[hoary lichen]

Lmao

@barren crypt i know nothing about the uk

[earnest olive]

it's no rog strix but it's not gonna break down on you

[barren crypt]

well know this

in the US apparently a 3070 is 500 dollars and in the uk its 726 dollars

[earnest olive]

consider that the US doesn't include tax in their prices and that the UK does

[hoary lichen]

Bro some gpu’s be costing more than my build

[earnest olive]

there's also luxury item import fees

also most 3070s are not $500 here

[barren crypt]

well the cheapest one here is 729

[earnest olive]

this is a pretty bottom tier model

$547 before tax

[barren crypt]

how is a gigabyte eagle

[earnest olive]

i think it's gigabyte's budget option

[weak field]

eagle

isnt it aorus?

wait no

[barren crypt]

palit gamingpro

[earnest olive]

gigabyte product stack is

eagle < gaming < aorus master < aorus extreme

[hoary lichen]

Do you guys know any way for a 13 year old to work for money?

[weak field]

is aorus gigabyte?

[earnest olive]

aorus is a sub-brand of gigabyte yes

[weak field]

permit maybe

thanks i forgot

[earnest olive]

gigabyte brand their premium products as aorus

[weak field]

premium

their motherboards are nice

pretty expensive tho

[earnest olive]

i have a b550 aorus elite

[weak field]

i like them

[barren crypt]

how is the

[earnest olive]

really cheap for how good it is

[barren crypt]

palit gamingpro

[earnest olive]

another budget 3070

all of them are fine

if all the same price i would choose gigabyte eagle

[barren crypt]

PNY XLR8 Gaming REVEL EPIC-X

[hoary lichen]

When you’re building a pc but forget about the monitor

[barren crypt]

a pc case with a monitor build on the side

[hoary lichen]

Tbh i could build my own case

[earnest olive]

i believe that for PNY, uprising is the lower end and revel is the higher end

[barren crypt]

higher end

[hoary lichen]

But i dont feel like messing with any tools rn

[barren crypt]

its 20 pounds more

[earnest olive]

yeah

i mean it's the same gpu, you're just paying for a better cooler

[barren crypt]

will there be much difference though

[earnest olive]

performance wise not much

mostly gonna be noise/aesthetic difference

[barren crypt]

ok

[hoary lichen]

I should sell my bike

It goes for 300-500 dollars

[barren crypt]

my current gpu

is old

and not good

[hoary lichen]

[barren crypt]

but i think nvidia discontinued it

[weak field]

go for it

[barren crypt]

its no GTX 1080ti price

[weak field]

sell the bike

[earnest olive]

i sold my 1080ti back in july for $500 anticipating its value to tank

[barren crypt]

but it sells for like $300

[hoary lichen]

I dont ride my bike any more

[earnest olive]

been suffering with this gtx 1060

[barren crypt]

thats mine

i have a 1060

3GB

[weak field]

i messed up my wrist last time i rode mine

[earnest olive]

been trying to buy a 3080 since launch but no stock

[weak field]

kinda just chillin in the shed collecting rust

[earnest olive]

so i'm jumping ship to radeon.. give me 6800xt amd

[weak field]

yes

give

[earnest olive]

i already ordered a gpu stand custom engraved with ryzen | radeon logo

[weak field]

me

[earnest olive]

amd do not disappoint me

[hoary lichen]

Since i moved from flat town to a town with hills and like 15 ft drops

[weak field]

gonna get a cardboard flap

[earnest olive]

optimal pc case

custom water loop inside cardboard box 🙂

[hoary lichen]

Sheesh

[arctic jungle]

Ew

Optical drive

[barren crypt]

ngl thats

good

[hoary lichen]

No air flow tho

Lmao

[arctic jungle]

Ngl optical drives make cases like that look shabby

[barren crypt]

for air flow

just poke some holes in the top with a pencil

[hoary lichen]

Yea

[barren crypt]

for the fans

[arctic jungle]

Bruh

[barren crypt]

use lego parts

[weak field]

thats what happens when you spend all your money on the pc and fortget about the case

[arctic jungle]

Cases are bad for airflow

[barren crypt]

you just need a motor

[arctic jungle]

Don't do cases kids

[weak field]

vVRMMMMMm

[hoary lichen]

Sips, does amd ryzen cpu’s come with a fan?

[earnest olive]

looking at the window it's a full custom loop with cpu and gpu, as long as the rad is exhausting heat fine airflow isn't as important

[weak field]

yes

most

[earnest olive]

the 3100 does

[weak field]

except for 5000

[hoary lichen]

Alr

[weak field]

5600x do

[hoary lichen]

Good to know

[barren crypt]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/43BPXb so

[hoary lichen]

[earnest olive]

the only ryzens with no stock cooler are the 3950x, 5800x, 5900x, and 5950x

[hoary lichen]

Oh

I never once looked at those

Lmao

[earnest olive]

the ryzen 3 3100 also generates little heat so the stock cooler is more than adequate

i've done multiple builds on the 3100

used stock cooler on all of them

[hoary lichen]

Are you rich

😳

[earnest olive]

nice quiet and cool

no, i run a pc building business

[hoary lichen]

Like multiple builds?

Oh

Makes sense

[weak field]

tryna build mine

[hoary lichen]

Yo when i build my pc can you guys like join the vc and help me out if you can

[earnest olive]

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/kjBZxr $600 ryzen 3 3100 build i did

[hoary lichen]

How do i get a windows driver

[weak field]

you should like build mine

ill fly to you and pay you

more than the pc

[earnest olive]

i haven't uploaded my best looking build yet

[weak field]

joking

[earnest olive]

because it's my own and it's not completed yet

[hoary lichen]

[weak field]

spending all my money on my pc

gonna be eating rice and crackers for a lil but but its fine

[hoary lichen]

Anyways can you guys help out when i build my pc?

[earnest olive]

none of my customers so far have been interested in custom cables lol

fanciest one i've done for a customer so far... not really saying much since it's just an aio

[hoary lichen]

Tbh if i had to choose a color for my pc id choose

[earnest olive]

customers are more sensible than i am with their money i guess 😂

[hoary lichen]

Purple

[earnest olive]

the amount i've spent on aesthetics for my pc is worth more than my current gpu

[hoary lichen]

Damn

My when i get my pc parts but is struggling to build it

Jk

But i know the basics

[still roost]

sxlkxyy#3105 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[hoary lichen]

[earnest olive]

custom cables - $40
rgb strips - $16
aio - $130
vayne figurine - $30
fancy case - $40 more than a basic airflow case
engraved gpu stand - $40
a mobo with 4 rgb headers - $50 more than basic mobo

total: $346

meanwhile my gtx 1060: $125

poor gtx 1060

[hoary lichen]

I have a question

If i get a cheap case with no air flow

can i just drill holes into it

Lmao

Saving money

😳

[earnest olive]

the cougar mx330-g air is already dirt cheap anyways

for the 3 fans it includes

[hoary lichen]

Yea

[earnest olive]

best value case is always cardboard 🙂

[hoary lichen]

Lmao

[viral ore]

cardboard best

[earnest olive]

that one actually looks pretty clean tho

[hoary lichen]

Yea

[earnest olive]

best laptop chassis is pizza box

[hoary lichen]

Should’ve made it amazon themed tho

[prisma stag]

[hoary lichen]

Playing on that will make your wrist hurt

[viral ore]

[prisma stag]

:theo1:

how u get that

sassy

[viral ore]

its mine

my own server

[prisma stag]

u have to have ur server boosted to make ur own dont u?

[vital warren]

edgy

[odd crypt]

[barren crypt]

mr bleach

[grim tide]

can someone give me a good gaming/school work pre-built pc under 700 suggestion

[stoic island]

prebuilt no

[balmy patio]

i mean, pre-builds ain't that bad if you're willing to upgrade a little or getting a better deal than what most big companies offer you

[stoic island]

@balmy patio which defeats the whole point of them

soo

If you're gonna open it up and upgrade, might as well build it yourself

[balmy patio]

exactly

[stoic island]

which is why prebuilt no :P

[balmy patio]

that's what i was trying to say

for most people it's like a big and expensive lego set, there's tools you can use to make sure everything is compatible like pcpp, and you get better performance per buck if you choose the right parts and build them, then getting sum prebuilt pc that'll give you cool lighting effects for 1.5k

[dense basalt]

Amd ryzen 5 2600 or ryzen 5 3600?

Idk what to have in my build

[stoic island]

3600

[balmy patio]

^^

[dense basalt]

Ok

Thx dudes

[timber swallow]

can someone here build me a streaming/ e-sport 240 fps/ editing pc for maybe $1100

@stoic island ;)

LMAO

[stoic island]

wat

I paste my 1000$ list then

[timber swallow]

ook

[stoic island]

smth like this, edited ma 1000$ build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NbV6rr

[timber swallow]

k thanks!

[balmy patio]

no

will do

[marsh kiln]

Is there a audio controller I could put in a 5.25 DVD drive bay?

[dense basalt]

i didi

*did

its literally honey gum

lol

@little osprey

[balmy patio]

Is there a audio controller I could put in a 5.25 DVD drive bay?
@marsh kiln i'm pretty sure there is, let me do some research if you haven't done so already

[dense basalt]

honeycomb is gum that tastes like honey

[sharp tundra]

Why not blu-ray is my question?

[marsh kiln]

Ok thanks and not really I have done some and could not find a thing

[grim tide]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/49QZwz is this good?

budget wise

[sharp tundra]

Like if you're gonna put an Optical drive in your PC, might as well be a Blu-ray player

[stoic island]

I'd edit it

@grim tide edit uno
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rFnH2V

[marsh kiln]

Yea @NomadHorizon

[grim tide]

@grim tide edit uno
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rFnH2V
@stoic island ?????

[stoic island]

look at it :P

B550 because spare room in budget

MP34 > A60

1650 super > 5500xt in gaming

MX330-g air was cheaper

[sharp tundra]

But it cost the same?

Oh wait, you swapped out other stuff

[barren crypt]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/43BPXb

[stoic island]

I'd suggest against 32in 1440p

[barren crypt]

sure it was the cheapest monitor i could find though

at 2560x1440 144hz

[sharp tundra]

You should try and find a 2k monitor

[barren crypt]

that is?

[stoic island]

was it really tho

[barren crypt]

yeah

[stoic island]

what about this lmao
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07VJJXDBX

[barren crypt]

thats the same price

[stoic island]

27in 1440p 144hz

and IPS

97 cents less lmao

[barren crypt]

.

[stoic island]

@barren crypt this is the literal cheapest
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07J37NY8X

[barren crypt]

i found some shady cheap ones

[stoic island]

I just wouldn't go for it

[barren crypt]

like thato ne

[stoic island]

I'd at least get the viewsonic panel over that 32in aoc panel

[barren crypt]

how about

AOC Q27G2U

[stoic island]

It's VA

the viewsonic panel is IPS

[barren crypt]

the difference?

[stoic island]

IPS > VA > TN

Color and viewing angle wise to start off

and VA can have smearing/ghosting issues

[barren crypt]

so what do i get the viewsonic

[sharp tundra]

Just get an LG 27gl83

[stoic island]

where

link it

[barren crypt]

ah only

800

[stoic island]

GBP pricing btw

[barren crypt]

765£

[weak field]

pounds of gold compared to usd

[sharp tundra]

765£
@barren crypt looks like it might be cheaper to buy it USD

[weak field]

yah

by alot