my case has 8 fns
#building-and-recc-chat
lyric thistle
the ones labeled CPU_FAN or PUMP_FAN or something are meant for CPU or pump
clever sonnet
ok
clever sonnet
no my aio is plugged in
i have a lianli lancool 2
so i have 3 fans that come in the case
narrow rose
if you put it in the cpu fan it will shut the pc off when the pump fails
clever sonnet
my aio is plugged in already and all radiator fans work
but i want to put 2 on bottom
1 in back
and i need to plug the front fans in as well
i already did the rgb for them
lyric thistle
is it possible to use the pump header as a fan header 😳
narrow rose
yes
lyric thistle
nice
narrow rose
my pump header powers my fans on my aio
lyric thistle
ic
paper eagle
man even a 7890K not that great 😔
@lyric thistle
I think she told me it was 10 to 15 years old.
Honestly, I think I'm just gonna try and replace everything in it except the PSU.
Get her to buy a Ryzen 5 3600, B550 mobo, and an RX 5600 GPU.
I think I already have some spare DDR4 RAM and m.2 drives laying around.
narrow rose
fm2+ was the "steamroller" APUs
clever sonnet
those three things are connected to my fans
paper eagle
Unless it was an i3 before when she bought it, and replaced the mobo and cpu with FM2+
lyric thistle
RGB stuff I think
narrow rose
they could be cords to string fans together to only use one spot on the motherboard to plug in multiple fans
since ones an inny and ones an outy
lyric thistle
I got an A8-7600 from a Lenovo computer that I want to build a spare computer with
paper eagle
But I dunno. I'm half asleep. And I know she took a hit off her pipe when explaining her PC to me. Already know something was off when she said i3 and I see AMD inside.
narrow rose
@lyric thistle thats another Fm2+
lyric thistle
yes
silent canyon
they look like the same thing but one is cheaper an im confused
silent canyon
oh ok lol
silent canyon
?
paper eagle
It says "Sold by: Newegg" on both
Most likely
One is new, and the other is pre-owned/refurbished/returned
narrow rose
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811553054?Description=Cougar MX330&cm_re=Cougar_MX330-_-11-553-054-_-Product&quicklink=true? look how much nicer this looks
and 3 rgb fans
lyric thistle
oooh that's why it's in Mr1's budget build list
narrow rose
plus there is a cougar on front
lyric thistle
3 fans and it's 54 dollars dang
narrow rose
dont forget the cougar
lyric thistle
lol
silent canyon
the rosewill one has 4 fans im pretty s ure
narrow rose
the rosewill does have 4 fans it comes with also rgb
silent canyon
ive heard h18 has good cable management
narrow rose
lol
lyric thistle
I have no idea, I'm stuck with a Lenovo prebuilt case atm
narrow rose
thats because its huge could hide 2 pc's cables in there
silent canyon
lol
narrow rose
that has to be at least 8" wide
lyric thistle
all the better to stuff hard drives in
narrow rose
i do like its look though
lyric thistle
I really like one of their product pictures for it
narrow rose
my case is really ugly but I love it
lyric thistle
reminds me of a structurally outward building
narrow rose
its possible 2 of them could fit in my case
mines is like the case where you dont care about cable management since you cant see in it anyway
lyric thistle
very nice
narrow rose
scary in there
the hard drives are below that in an equal sized space with the psu
lyric thistle
abandoned factory building
narrow rose
sure looks abandoned
lyric thistle
😛
pine swallow
my favorite budget B450/B550 board is the Gigabyte DS3H! LET IT BE KNOWN!
last rampart
@little osprey 0/10
little osprey
dang
last rampart
There you go xd
jagged ember
grim tide
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7r7JfP Why does it say “warning ....”
idle compass
\
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7r7JfP Why does it say “warning ....”
@grim tide It means that some b450 motherboards like the one in your list may not work out of the box
idle compass
Look at what it says under, it explains the issue for you
grim tide
Ok
grim tide
You just need a bios update
@idle compass and how do i do that? I need to change the mb?
idle compass
Yeah it would be easier just to get a different mobo
grim tide
Sry im bad at these
arctic jungle
@arctic jungle th 5600xt is a lot more powerful than the rx 580 you dumdum
@vague maple no ik but u gotta fit in the budgettttttt
idle compass
You download it via a usb in the bios screen I think
arctic jungle
ur 190$ over
grim tide
You download it via a usb in the bios screen I think
@idle compass so after all the installation of the parts?
idle compass
@grim tide Read this https://www.pcworld.com/article/187437/how-to-update-your-bios.html
@idle compass so after all the installation of the parts?
@grim tide Yeah
In the bios page you need to update it after you build your pc
If you keep the same motherboard
little osprey
i love you
delicate bobcat
I love you too linus tech tips
uncut pelican
Gm
pine swallow
made this build for my friend can someone rate it
@little osprey DAMN THATS RUDE! you stole my list!
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WstTJf
@little osprey ah yes.. this list is better xD. i'd go for the 3300X; but they are nowhere to be found tho
odd basalt
i have a question i'm upgrading my motherboard from an aorus b450 elite to a Msi gaming plus x570 is there like any drives i have to delete or anything?
pine swallow
I'd recommend a clean W10 install
heavy jasper
pine swallow
I love the Twin Frozr design on the 900 and 1000 series.
i now have a 2080TI gaming X trio
and my 2nd system
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q3Twk6
why cant I post Builds.GG?
still roostBOT
EJ#6680 has been warned
timber bough
hello everyone, new guy here, just wanting to get some imput on my first PC build
I apologize for the long list, but could anyone please advised if all of these components will work with and RTX 3080 and do I have a sufficient PSU? This is my first build on my own, and the PC is for strictly gaming.
Any input is greatly appreciated.
idle compass
bro put into a pcpartpicker list
vapid igloo
So, I got an assignment in school to make a pc parts list with any budget. Could any of you make me the most expensive but good part list? 😈
sharp pelican
Ryzen 5000 series
idle compass
it will tell you if its compatible and if your parts are not it will say whats the issue
vapid igloo
No, a list. A really expensive but good list
sharp pelican
Ik put it in your list
vapid igloo
Oh ok
sharp pelican
:)
cursive magnet
@vapid igloo I’ll make you a list
little osprey
Who pinged me
versed rock
Private List...
outer heart
it’s private
versed rock
Nope.
outer heart
yea
plucky oar
okay
versed rock
Alright... this is... ok at best, meh at worst.
outer heart
looks pretty good
plucky oar
oh any better case reccomendations
outer heart
they are $80 more
plucky oar
because he wants the nvenc encoder and i am already slightly over budget
versed rock
does he explicitly need Wi-Fi?
outer heart
does he care about storage speed
plucky oar
yes he does
he is going to be reccording streaming and edditing
and he hates long wait times
versed rock
Actually, TBH he's better off with a 5700XT at this price bracket.
AMD's encoder is pretty decent still.
plucky oar
the thing is the budget also includes the perifs
versed rock
And, with a 3600, he can run Software Encoding in some games.
plucky oar
oh
versed rock
Does he explicitly NEED Wi-Fi?
plucky oar
the biggest problem is that the budget
grim tide
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7r7JfP is it good? for little gaming, schoool work
cursive magnet
@vapid igloo https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nwzTJf
vapid igloo
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KQZTJf @vapid igloo
@outer heart brutal
outer heart
would that work lol
plucky oar
i am going to change the mobo anf the ssd but any other recomenedation
grim tide
every time i see a pc built that is over 7k, i get chills
outer heart
does he like the look of the case
vapid igloo
Yes, it would
plucky oar
no he doesnt care
outer heart
kk
jagged ember
what budget, 700?
plucky oar
it would only really because it was cheap and had two case fans
i havent done the exact math for the budget
versed rock
jagged ember
i've got a 780 dollar build if you need
plucky oar
the problem is that it is really over budget
jagged ember
versed rock
100 dollars over budget isn't that bad.
open peak
Question, I've been looking at some mATX cases and really love the look of the Phanteks Enthoo Evolv mATX. And when I look around for reviews theres a lot of conflicting opinions on the airflow. Anyone happen to have experience with this case and knows if air cooling is viable for it?
jagged ember
assuming you're in the US, ofc
versed rock
Just wait another month or 2 to save up.
plucky oar
his parents are being really up tight of only fifty dollars over budget
jagged ember
honestly, fair
versed rock
Honestly, a bit unfair.
jagged ember
but also sucks
plucky oar
it is a gift for him getting strait As
versed rock
If he can spend 100 dollars over the budget his build gets VASTLY better.
jagged ember
ain't a great time for earning money lol
versed rock
Honestly, my job situation improved with Covid.
grim tide
@jagged ember can you fix this please, ill be glad if you can change anything https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7r7JfP
plucky oar
that is what i said i will try to convice his parents
vapid igloo
versed rock
I went from Min-wage school job to 9.38/hr AutoZone Part Time Job.
grim tide
ok
versed rock
Calcy, TBH you would be better off rolling the dice on a Used Dell Optiplex on Ebay, and then slapping a new PSU and GPU in it.
Make sure it's a Tower and not a Mini-Tower or Micro-Tower though.
grim tide
ok
cursive magnet
I’ve seen some great stuff at pawn shops to be honest. Great starts to some builds with little tweaking
sinful hornet
Hol up... tf is minimum wage in the US if 9.38/hour is a “good” increase?
sullen spoke
minimum goes by state, not sure what the lowest is
river bobcat
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KndVcT good enough?
river bobcat
Yeah I'm not buying that xD
sullen spoke
i have no clue what to say to that xD but if it was me id get a external soundcard haha
river bobcat
Same as suggested above I tried to build to most ridiculous PC, I don't think that sound card fits with these two BF GPU
sullen spoke
i just like my sound 
have 3 or 4 soundcards extneral but only use 2 really
river bobcat
I spent most of my sound quality in my car, I just have a good headphone and a soundcard
naive leaf
https://sg.pcpartpicker.com/list/p6pwz7 thoughts?
im just worried about the aesthetics with the matx mobo and atx case
river bobcat
aesthetically it will work other then that I'm unfamiliar with Singapore prices.
naive leaf
oh its cheaper for sure in the US
i just hope the darn elections dont mess with the import prices
river bobcat
nah it shouldn't
delicate bobcat
Perhaps
I already got my GPU so I probably wont use it, but it might have some other parts I can use
I mean, it doesn't have upgradability, and I record and edit videos
It's got some upgradability actually
Yeah
But 500w psu
I think it is
fringe wharf
Dang I’ve never heard of an A520 mobo
delicate bobcat
Yeah
fringe wharf
I thought it was b550 for value. Good to know lmao
fringe wharf
That’s true
delicate bobcat
And aesthetics cant get in the way
That reminds me, my friend wants to build a pc for 1000. Could you help me make him one?
Thanks
What cpu?
That's pretty good budgeting
Thanks
That should be perfect for him, I'll send it to him and see if he likes it
grim tide
i need a list under 600 for school work msotly and little gaming
sharp pelican
Going to start my old pc again...
quasi snow
@grim tide What games?
foggy hazel
@lyric thistle i was snoring away when you talked with @grim delta
grim delta
I was asking if it was illegal to stream myself building my first PC in this discord. I didn't want to make any mistakes after watching so many YouTube videos @foggy hazel
grim tide
@grim tide What games?
@quasi snow rocekt leageu type of games, casual ones. Ill also be editing sooo
vestal hare
I have returned
foggy hazel
aye aye @grim delta its normally not a problem :) i would just perhaps recommend that you do it privately with a techie or someone else that volunteers
because the amount of "noise" from random people could very well be VERY high IF you do it in public
sharp pelican
Anyone know what brand of ram this is?
plain cobalt
@grim tide https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vhrj2V probably overkill but still
quasi snow
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/F7BnLP
@grim tide This is what I came up with
sharp pelican
Nvm found it lol
sharp pelican
1366 baby!
little osprey
how do you tell what level of a wifi device you need
balmy patio
wdym
delicate bobcat
The Q300L is bad for airflow I've heard
little osprey
thoughts on the 9400F i5 ?
delicate bobcat
It's not bad, but ryzen is better for all around rather than just gaming
sharp pelican
Good for budget, just get ryzen tho
grim delta
Thanks @foggy hazel
foggy hazel
you are very welcome @grim delta, and best of luck with the build :)
grim tide
thanks @plain cobalt
little osprey
@foggy hazel did u see the supposed problems with the Gx2
apparently theres no protection tests yet neither OTP on it
thoughts on this build, and if theres anyway to improve it ? (No storage nor peripherals, taking storage from my old pc, going to format it then put it into my new pc)
send a pcpp when sharing links
foggy hazel
@little osprey please post the actual link instead :)
plain cobalt
why 9400F
little osprey
oh my mapologies
this for gaming ?
i prefer intel for things that i cannot say because of discord tos
no going intel is fine just the 9400f is eh
10400F would do u better, or even 10100
plain cobalt
beware the 450W might not able to handle RX 580 8GB in a long run
10400F is few bucks cheaper than 10400 so get 10400
little osprey
i guess so for troubleshooting but 8 usd can go a long way in this budget
plain cobalt
as a person who mainly sale Gigabyte board, dont take the DS3H unless it is the cheapest that has 4 DIMM
little osprey
i dont even think that mobo supports 3200 just downgrade to vulcan 3k
plain cobalt
you dont need 3200 ram so downgrade it to something cheaper
little osprey
10400f with h410 ?
little osprey
yea ik thats asking for a mess lol
plain cobalt
H410 with 10400 is fine tho
little osprey
yea should reach high enough ram clocks
little osprey
the H410 A pro ?
plain cobalt
MSI H410M Pro
little osprey
yeah ill be fine with 2666 ram
i would go HDV but its at 66 usd now so might as well go a pro
idle compass
can someone help me, i want a build thats around 600-700 usd and all i will really do is play csgo and fall guys on it
little osprey
i have a 700 usd intel build
plain cobalt
600-700 is easy
little osprey
this is if 10400F gets released before date of purchase
if u need it sooner just go H410 and 10100
oh crap it has GX2 in it i forgot abt that
i need to update that list nevermind it
plain cobalt
CSGO so probably you want better CPU, get 3600 instead
you guys dont have the option of cheapo case that actually decent here tho :lul
the fans are digital addressable and total cost of the case is like 30-32 USD
grim tide
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vhrj2V i need a little upgrade on gpu
plain cobalt
what do you want tho
grim tide
wdym
plain cobalt
what do you mean by: little upgrade
stoic island
What
grim tide
i want a gpu that can run atlest after effects
stoic island
Your sentence doesn't make sense without context
plain cobalt
No GPU at this price point can run after effects properly
stoic island
Why can't you on a 1650 super?
plain cobalt
and actually few years ago, 4GB is the standard
stoic island
Pretty sure aftereffects is more cpu heavy
plain cobalt
a lot of production was done on a 4GB card
grim tide
ok
plain cobalt
imagine GTX 980
you can skip 970 because that 3.5 not 4
it can run AE half-decent and very well on Premiere Pro since all of the decode will be pushed to the IGP and even the encode is mostly dGPU part.
grim tide
oohh
iron berry
Does anyone have a 1000ish usd build that uses a full atx?
iron berry
Tyty
stoic island
@iron berry try this build, and put in a B550 phantom gaming 4 instead of the mATX board
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/qn9H23
vital fog
hi. Im new here and would like to build a pc myself. Im not really experienced in buying seperate compontents for a computer. Can anyone look at my build so far and check if each component is compatible with one anotger?
here is the build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
iron berry
@stoic island I think it would work if I have him get a cheaper gpu and it's be pretty set
still roostBOT
Calcy#1669 has been warned
little leaf
@vital fog wrong link
vital fog
oh sorry
little leaf
Please copy and paste the shareable link
little leaf
Yea
still roostBOT
Calcy#1669 has been warned
vital fog
please ignore the cpu cooler. Im going to use the cooler that is included in the cpu
still roostBOT
Calcy#1669 has been banned for 10 minutes
little leaf
@vital fog do you already have it?
vital fog
no. I only bought the cpu
stoic island
alright you do you
foggy hazel
ah, a tomahawk "build"
vital fog
😅
vital fog
well a friend told me the b550 chip is a good one so i went with that motherboard
thank you for your opinion. could you recommend me a mothgerboard?
little leaf
B550 pro vdh wifi is good cheap
vital fog
altight. thank you 🙂
foggy hazel
@vital fog yes, as mentioned, i am not a fan of the Tomahawk boards, because its a waste of money, might as well use the money for something you can notice :)
plucky zinc
Guys
Pls help
Just built my pc
And it boots up for 3 seconds then stops
Please help it worked before
I can’t refund it
iron berry
Dang naed already doesn't like my build cuz my mobo lmao
vital fog
@foggy hazel okay 😄
plucky zinc
16
little leaf
@plucky zinc ok first make sure everything its fully plugged in
plucky zinc
@plucky zinc ok first make sure everything its fully plugged in
@little leaf gimme a sec
@little leaf still the same
little leaf
Whats the motherboard?
little leaf
How long did it work for?
plucky zinc
How long did it work for?
@little leaf 9 months until I changed the cooler rn
little leaf
did you remove the cpu?
plucky zinc
No
did you touch the motherboard or put pressur on it?
@little osprey yes i touched it
If I wouldn’t I couldn’t get it out
little leaf
@little osprey nono
foggy hazel
@little osprey relax on the doom and gloom part.
little leaf
there are things that you can do before
little leaf
I said to check all connections lol
still roostBOT
The A-B0t#7920 has been warned
plucky zinc
I’m living the dream
There is no jet no more
These good temps?
I have 37 degrees
Is it good?
Ye
foggy hazel
@plucky zinc yes.
plucky zinc
And it’s quiet af
balmy patio
anyways is this a good build?
@little osprey what's ur budget
vestal wraith
It’s a nice build
vestal wraith
Maybe Change the ram to Corsair lpx
little osprey
i9 or the new amd processor
vestal wraith
Unless it’s too expensive in your area
little osprey
quick
plucky zinc
this was my 1st build
@little osprey boy,r u selling that nvme?
vestal wraith
It’s pretty nice tbh
plucky zinc
Are u selling that m2 drive
On ur old build
And what cpu does it have
I think it’s a lga 77t
775
Go to files and right click computer
Then properties
vestal wraith
No not really
sinful hornet
Advanced legos
plucky zinc
Is my cpu broken
vestal wraith
Nothing should go wrong, to minimize the chance of a short turn off the psu and hit the power button on the case a few times
vestal wraith
Nah
thorny tusk
What games
vestal wraith
Mine does it too, I’m there’s a huge difference between cpu but still
vestal wraith
I just built this system it’s my first build
thorny tusk
What part s
vestal wraith
Hol up
I7 9700k, 500gb seagate ssd, 1tb seagate hdd, 3070 when it goes on sale, MSI z390 a pro
stoic island
Okai
thorny tusk
Ool
vestal wraith
Oh and a cooler master master liquid lite, not a great aio but not bad
thorny tusk
What was the total cost
vestal wraith
I think around 1200 including the 3070
thorny tusk
Also why intel
vestal wraith
bc I’m not doing anything crazy besides some higher end gaming and I just don’t like amd, idk why
thorny tusk
Ok
iron berry
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NyqZZZ @stoic island
stoic island
Works
iron berry
he said he plays wow and like cod so i think that will be fine for a gpu since friends manage cod on a 580
also the vdh wifi give him wiggle room to go for an atx or get wifi
radiant palm
So everyone in here will know how to do this stuff more than me, but so far these last few weeks I got a gaming pc I got it at goodwill and it had some decent stuff because it’s running at least but if anyone knows a specific like testing to see what kinda cpu and graphics card and all that stuff would be for gaming PCs or just PCs in general it would be greatly appreciated I’m hoping to get this thing rolling a lot faster sooner but for sure it is an AMD and that’s all I know.
little osprey
you might try userbenchmark.com for a start
gaunt vortex
Like, just to figure out what the parts are?
If that's all you need then the basic overview is in System Information in windows. Or if you want super detailed use HWInfo
edgy wagon
Is a 2060 super worth it over a 2060?
topaz coyote
silent nacelle
Is a 2060 super worth it over a 2060?
@edgy wagon It might be wise to hold off and wait for a 3060 or 3050
edgy wagon
Im not going to wait months again just to not get a gpu
3060 wont even be released until december
plucky zinc
@vestal wraith
edgy wagon
and if previous launches continue it will be sold out
silent nacelle
Yeah everyone is hyped right now
silent nacelle
All the new ryzen sold out yesterday
And I bet the same will happen with big navi
But people are hyped because we are finally getting good improvements
silent nacelle
What do u have rn
edgy wagon
580
silent nacelle
Rough
silent nacelle
I actually have a 950 right now so I am at a simillar performance level
But i swear my card will go until the sun burns out
dreamy root
can someone help me with something pc related (not a build)
edgy wagon
Mine has decided it wants to become a supernova
silent nacelle
Something I didn't think about
Was black friday
Now that the older rtx is a bit obsolete
You might be able to get a 2060 super or 2070 at a really good price
can someone help me with something pc related (not a build)
@dreamy root wussup
dreamy root
I use blender to make 3d models for my game but my work computer isent good enough and a friend wanted to help so I made a vpn so I could connect to the computer but we cant work on the same computer at the same time so I need a way to use blender on the same computer so I thougth a Vm would work so now I have a AD to make it easier with some stuff, and a vpn, a shared folder. and the other vm, windows 10 pro
just says I need a grahpics card
but I cant mount one to hyper v
dreamy root
the vms are on my computer
I use my computer to work
He wants to use blender
but he dosent have a computer
other then the work laptop
silent nacelle
oh whoops
weak field
i got a question
silent nacelle
I thought you were trying to use blender on his
dreamy root
nah
silent nacelle
so he is trying to use blender on yours?
dreamy root
yea
weak field
is it good to go all out for my first build? or start mid tier and upgrade down the line?
weak field
1500-2000
like 31inch 1440p monitor rtx 3070 ryzen 5 5600x
theres one on sale rn, like 240 , 144hz. 1ms
gaunt vortex
for me "all out" means custom cables and a custom hardline cooling loop with at least 2 pumps.
Which is a lot for a first-build.
weak field
so i should spend less and work my way up with upgrades?
dreamy root
preformance all out?
weak field
such a good year to build a pc
little osprey
lol u joking
weak field
the “lower end” stuff gonna be cheaper cuz the the cpus and gpus
little osprey
that happens every year kek
gaunt vortex
It's a good year assuming you can buy anything.
weak field
yeah 3070 like white rhinos
non existent
aswell as the 5600x
mad good if you can find one
silent nacelle
what are u gonna use the pc for
iron berry
I ended up selling one of my 5600x at cost to a friend hopefully neither gets cancelled
weak field
gaming, school, vr , maybe some rendering , colllages of things
silent nacelle
yea
@dreamy root how many gpus on your machine?
dreamy root
1
weak field
ion wanna play pc now, i enjoy my wrists in good condition
silent nacelle
I feel like two people working on a computer with blender is more difficult with one gpu
idle hawk
depends on the gpu
dreamy root
yea but before you could "share" the gpu on some of them atleat
idle hawk
which gpu do u have?
dreamy root
1070
sharp pelican
750
weak field
theres a 1070ti for like 350 rn
idle hawk
yea thats gonna be rough for 2 users
idle hawk
1070 isnt strong enough for 2 users
weak field
nice
sharp pelican
I wouldn't get it, i have a msi 1070ti with 2 fans and it somehow climbs up to 75c
weak field
75?
sharp pelican
Yes
weak field
thats good
idle hawk
blower style cards runs naturally hot
weak field
hungry? get a steak, 35mins for medium rare
graphics card used for gaming 
gpu used for cooking
idle hawk
i am hungry tho but my 3080 doesnt get hot enough lol
round thistle
Do you guys know a good gpu in the 200 range? I’m building a pc and trying to find and good card
weak field
i really wanna build my pc and put it under my desk
so i can stick my feet inside on the gpu, like a bear fur rug
1650 super
gaunt vortex
I hate having my PC under my desk but it's the only space I have.
weak field
maybe a used 1660 super
idle hawk
more like a fan shredder lol
silent nacelle
I have done it before just now it isent supported anymore
@dreamy root Yeah after doing a bit of research it looks like its a HUGE pain to share a gpu for two vms running at once
round thistle
Ok thanks I’ve been thinking of a 1650 1660 super just curious if anything else
dreamy root
just one of the vms need gpu
idle hawk
are you using virtual box?
dreamy root
hyper v
idle hawk
maybe try virtual box
dreamy root
okay
silent nacelle
or unraid
idle hawk
sounds more like a software then hardware
dreamy root
yea
silent nacelle
but unraid costs money so maybe not
idle hawk
but with the 1070 it wont be as fast as you think
silent nacelle
yeah if you only need one gpu between the vms you should be fine
weak field
what is raid in a pc
silent nacelle
unraid is just the name of some vm software
raid is some other software
I think for sharing drives
sharp pelican
No
idle hawk
its essentially converting 2 drives into one and they share the data in case one fails
gaunt vortex
raid is a lot of things.
silent nacelle
and run raid 0
sharp pelican
RAID is not really helpful with ssd's
idle hawk
raid shadow legends lmao jk
grim tide
s
balmy patio
yes
gaunt vortex
raid is only useful with SSDs if you want to clone drives. But, I mean, just get backblaze shrug
sharp pelican
I would only use it for hdd's
balmy patio
raid is also useful in servers, especially when the data stored is important
dreamy root
thx for the tips bye
idle hawk
its basically designed for higher capacity with a greater risk of failures
balmy patio
yeah i think i can find a video on different types of raid configs
cuz its hard to explain without diagrams
sharp pelican
yeah i think i can find a video on different types of raid configs
@balmy patio not necessarily
sharp pelican
If you want better speeds get raid 0
sharp pelican
But be careful of it because it has no fault tolerance
idle hawk
50 he's got either some big pockets or a sugar mama
gaunt vortex
Or just use a gen 4 m.2 and not bother with raid at all.
sharp pelican
Unless you're using really good hdds
Or just use a gen 4 m.2 and not bother with raid at all.
@gaunt vortex this
Nonono
idle hawk
they have to be identical
sharp pelican
Not really
idle hawk
or it wont work exactly right
balmy patio
here's a vid that explains raid 0, 1, 5, and 10 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-OCdTeZLac
neon condor
1 3080
1 3090
1 2080 Ti
gaunt vortex
I've never bothered with raid. It's just not worth it for a personal computer imo. If you can't use a cloud backup for some reason, there is an argument to be make about fault tolerance. But at this point, if you need fast drives, there is better, cheaper options in the form of SSDs
narrow rose
RAID is old school unless you have server
gaunt vortex
Exactly. And it was server tech to start with; enthusiasts just adopted it because a lot of them were the IT types who worked with servers anyway and brought it to the wider PC market. It has it place, but not it's just.... not really a thing you need to worry about outside of very specific use cases.
narrow rose
it was really important when we had 5400rpm drives and wanted to load games in less than 10 minutes
gaunt vortex
I still load some games off 5400rpm drives 😛
weak field
dont the 7200rpm sound like a rarri?
gaunt vortex
Although my new comp does not have any driver slower then 7200, so that'll be fun
narrow rose
wouldnt be normal since it would be very expensive or very big
gaunt vortex
I means... it's doable if you get the right kind of motherboard or sata expanders
the case I just bought can hold 11 3.5s
So, "yes"
in theory
narrow rose
well you could use SSDs and Pcie cards to add more SATA ports and then tape the SSDs all over the inside of the case
gaunt vortex
@vague maple it's a Fractal Design Vector RS. with the HDD cage it has 11 slots total, in the open layout like i have it there is only room for 2 3.5s and 2 2.5s
foggy hazel
"the line between server tech and enthustiasts are blurring now" <- no, not really
if anything, server side is getting more and more exotic
and enthusiast is getting more and more like the regular consumer stuff
gaunt vortex
Yeah... cloud tech has really made stuff interesting
foggy hazel
try and look at some of the server side storage solutions @vague maple
wanton onyx
Can anyone help me find a good prebuilt deal my price is 800-850$
raw mist
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/qn7v6h/seasonic-focus-gold-650w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-650fm anyone know if this is a good psu?
ashen girder
What cooler
sinful hornet
and what cpy
spark raven
just to clarify its not only me that has seen people in other servers be like. You cant get a decent sytem for under X price point.
plucky zinc
and what cpy
@sinful hornet I3 6100
What cooler
@ashen girder An Id cooler
The one where the bracket broke
spark raven
well yes but my last expeience was someone saying you cant get a good computer under 700 USD
ashen girder
Yah
wheat sand
bruh my budget is 500 CAD\
plucky zinc
thats an ez chip to cool tho
@sinful hornet my stock cooler got like 80 deegres on it
spark raven
becuase his "700 dollar gaming computer" cant run roblox since he decided to get a computer with only a R5 3400g
sinful hornet
jesus
also, theres a mid-ground somewhere between $500-700 whichi is kinda difficult because you have to decide whether you're going for an Igpu or dedicated
$500 budgets are easy, just get some 3rd get ryzen cpu
spark raven
yea 500-700 is very common for most builds
spark raven
cause you can fit a newer Ryzen 5 chip into them and a RX 580/590 and have a good build
didnt know you were talking CAD thats like 400 usd
wheat sand
I have tried to make a list on pcpartspicker with a ryzen 3rd gen and rx 570, but even that comes out to more than 500
spark raven
havent checked prices on them in a while but the rx 580/590s are always on eBay for arond 115-130
weak field
500cad?
sinful hornet
ye
spark raven
yea was going to say either go r3 3100 or r5 2600x depending on where the total comes to with them
weak field
i think cad is more in usd
weak field
yeah
wheat sand
Im just going to look for used stuff cause I cant find a half decent build with new parts
wheat sand
Im prob going to buy a new psu and gpu, but thats all
sinful hornet
also, yes, it is right
weak field
idk about 3600
weak field
380
wheat sand
living in canada 🤦♂️
sinful hornet
yes, because convertion rates changes since i last saw
they are 77 nnow
i said 74
balmy anvil
im wondering if i should sell my pc but i dont know the right price
wheat sand
what are specs
sinful hornet
well, find the price of all the components and subract about 10-20% based on how long you've been using it
balmy anvil
its a ryzen 5 2600x, rx 570 8gb, 16gb ram, 600w 80+gold psu, stock cooler and a tempered glass matx case.
- rgb xD
weak field
pretty decent
sinful hornet
ok so not bad
balmy anvil
using it for about 9 months
weak field
if you were to sell it id say maybe a 600-700 system if it were the right person
sinful hornet
random guess, but maybe $550 usd
weak field
cuz the new stuff coming out
sinful hornet
ah, my conversions were off i think
balmy anvil
to be clear i bought the parts for around 650
balmy anvil
yes excellent
sinful hornet
yea, how long have they been used
weak field
like no “yeeting” of the system
balmy anvil
nah xD
weak field
prolly around the same price
balmy anvil
good care and dust cleaning like every 3 months
weak field
id knock of like 40-60$ of the original price
sinful hornet
so maybe $600 if it was bought for $650
balmy anvil
so like 500-550 then?
weak field
or post it for 700 and let the person pull it down to that price
sinful hornet
they'll prolly try to bring it down lower, whoever buys from u
weak field
so that way they think there getting a deal while ur just getting ur original price
balmy anvil
yeah so for maybe 600
sinful hornet
$700 might be a bit much, i feel like no one would even look at it at that point
weak field
yeah
sinful hornet
unless they know nothin bout pcs
wheat sand
i would put it for 700 and say it gets 10000000000 fps on fortnite
balmy anvil
yeah i mean íts a 2nd gen ryzen cpu and a fairly old but great gpu
wheat sand
you will get exactly 700 for that
weak field
if you sell the peripherals you could prolly get another 150-200
like 750-850 for the whole “bundle”maybe
if you get the right person , like i said before
just depends on the person
sinful hornet
so i never really paid all that much attention to amds gpus, but did they go from the 500 series gpus to the 5000 series?
balmy anvil
i have a 24inch 144hz monitor that was 189, a hyperx tkl mech keyb for 120, a glorious model o for 60, and a second 24 inch monitor for id guess 100, and a steelseries large mousmat for 30
weak field
forget the 600,700,800,900 1k-5.4k
weak field
144hz monitors go for a decent amount on the used market
balmy anvil
heres my current setup
weak field
question
balmy anvil
yes?
weak field
did you buy the vertical monitor like that? or did you just buy a normal one and turn it?
sinful hornet
wait, so are you trying to sell it lik,e you're getting out of the pc domain or you're selling the pc to get more money for a new build
balmy anvil
this is pretty genious
sinful hornet
im guessing the latter
balmy anvil
i mady the vertical stand myself from wood
weak field
so its just a monitor tilted vertical?
weak field
ok
ive always wondered if companies made them like that or people kinda just did it on there own
balmy anvil
yeah the stock stand is some el cheapo no adjustment stand with no height adjust
no tilt
sinful hornet
many included monitor stands let you rotate them on the side
weak field
el cheapo, i cant with discord anymore
balmy anvil
lmao
weak field
im thinking of when i get mine buying a wall mount and turning it vertical
uncut pelican
Good afternoon
weak field
just for other things, like discord or tetris. for when im dead in a game waiting to respawn
balmy anvil
howdy
shy skiff
I have a 8-yr old 3570k w/ 1060 6GB on 2560x1080 monitor. I have $400 to upgrade and was wondering if it'd be better to go for cpu, mobo, ram or GPU for gaming performance.
uncut pelican
How you guys doing?
uncut pelican
Anyone get the new amd cpus?
balmy anvil
what ix is it
sinful hornet
and if u get new cpu u will need new mobo too
weak field
wait a 2560x1080?
shy skiff
Right, either I can get GPU or bundle cpu mobo ram for 400
polar anvil
is the ryzen 3 3100 and gtx 1650 super bottle neck
balmy anvil
theres the catch with old hardware, that if u wanna make a upgrade itrs bets to just buy a new system basically
weak field
or 1440p
sinful hornet
ultrawide
shy skiff
yes ultrawide
balmy anvil
@polar anvil no
weak field
maybe a slight one
polar anvil
alr
weak field
like 2-4fps
raw mist
polar anvil
just waiting for black friday better be good this year
uncut pelican
@raw mist Its not bad tbh, it will probs br good ehat other parts you going with?
weak field
@raw mist seasonic psus are kinda of like. idk how to put this... their bombs
ive seen a couple that dont work
or not supplying the propper wattage
balmy anvil
@polar anvil there is a 0.12% bottleneck , so no bottleneck
raw mist
@uncut pelican @weak field https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vyWht8
just missing psu now
idk what to get
balmy anvil
and bottlenecking starts at 10%
uncut pelican
@raw mist It should be good
weak field
i didnt see that at first 100$ for 16gb of 3200mhz ram?
uncut pelican
But I dont recommend that ram or case
weak field
atleast yall get mooses and stuff
uncut pelican
But I mran you do you
raw mist
110 CAD
sinful hornet
yea, case bad
weak field
question for a canadian?
weak field
is there like mooses, like everywhere?
sinful hornet
lmao no
raw mist
its 110 cad which is 85 usd
weak field
ive heard that somewhere and i cant not think about it
sinful hornet
like, 90% of the canadian population lives in majjor cities
weak field
oh dang
balmy anvil
prices vary from retailer to retailer so
weak field
so no mooses in backyards?
sinful hornet
where there are no moose
there was a full on crisis when there was a moose roaming the streets of toronto once
raw mist
is there like mooses, like everywhere?
@weak field nah. tbh ive only seen 2 and that was in alberta in the rocky mountains...u get the wildlife when u move up north
sinful hornet
it was like a year ago
weak field
im moving to toronto
uncut pelican
What monitor you guys got?
weak field
in a couple years after i save up some money to account for those whack prices
raw mist
im moving to toronto
@weak field dont bro. ull regret it
balmy anvil
yall from northamerica and stuff im like here hi im european xD
sinful hornet
lmao
uncut pelican
Hopefully prices get more back to normal soon things right now are wacked
balmy anvil
yeah
balmy anvil
the 30 series rtx sold out in one day
raw mist
anways do u guys reccomend that ram ? its 85 usd or 110 cad. is that overpriced?
balmy anvil
here
uncut pelican
the 30 series rtx sold out in one day
@balmy anvil in two minutes
sinful hornet
lmao try 5 seconds
weak field
imagine. going outside, car unlocked about to go to work. and a MOOSE takes off
how u finna explain that
raw mist
imagine. going outside, car unlocked about to go to work. and a MOOSE takes off
@weak field it doesnt happen 😂
sinful hornet
how tf is a moose gonna get in your car
weak field
could tho
balmy anvil
@sinful hornet yeah prob wouldnt surprise me
weak field
in america bears steal cars
uncut pelican
lmao try 5 seconds
@sinful hornet yeah ikr
balmy anvil
anyway whos going amd?
weak field
if you feed a moose itll expect food from every human it meets becoming aggressive if it doesnt get fed
amd all the way
uncut pelican
anyway whos going amd?
@balmy anvil wdym for cpu or gpu
balmy anvil
both
weak field
nvidia for gpu
uncut pelican
I go amd for cpu
weak field
amd for cpu
uncut pelican
Nvidia for gpu
sinful hornet
amd cpu, 3070 gpu
weak field
yeah
sinful hornet
3600/3070 gang
weak field
5600x 3070 is like the best budget combo rn
balmy anvil
i dont mid but intel kinda f'd up
uncut pelican
amd cpu, 3070 gpu
@sinful hornet you get a 3070?
sinful hornet
not yet, but canada computers lets you preorder a backrdered gpu
weak field
bruh there like a white rhink
balmy anvil
rip those 3090 and 3080 buyers
weak field
rhink
sinful hornet
doing that monday
weak field
non existent
sinful hornet
getting the gigabyte eagle i think
raw mist
if you feed a moose itll expect food from every human it meets becoming aggressive if it doesnt get fed
@weak field bro theres a city called sudbury....its pretty north of toronto, and the bears there are like racoons to the ppl because they just scavenge the trash cus the humans got way to friendly to them
uncut pelican
Anyone here right now use a 3700x?
sinful hornet
theres a video of a really fat bear from sudbury that got popular
balmy anvil
i wish to have a good lan itx pc so heres one ive put together
but the cpu and gpu will prob change
uncut pelican
@balmy anvil could you send thr link to the list
balmy anvil
oh wait thast and old
balmy anvil
same its heavy and too bulky
idle compass
uncut pelican
Yessir it is@idle compass
idle compass
Whats the best Cpu and gpu combo for 700 usd budget for whole pc
weak field
what language is that? @balmy anvil
uncut pelican
Depends on other parts though @idle compass do you havr a list?
idle compass
Depends on other parts though @idle compass do you havr a list?
@uncut pelican Yes
balmy anvil
@weak field yeah its finnish
sinful hornet
its european
weak field
dang
sinful hornet
lmao
weak field
finnish
uncut pelican
Can u send link @idle compass to your list please
weak field
european
idle compass
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/98kMvf something like this im not sure what ssd or psu to get @uncut pelican
balmy anvil
omg why do "ameicans" think that europe is a whole country with the language of "european" lmao