building-and-recc-chat

[stoic island]

iGPU- integrated graphics unit, it's built into the CPU

When you don't have a GPU, you need a iGPU to do anything

[little osprey]

the 3200g has a gpu....

[cursive magnet]

@fading kiln you could cut a ton of money out or your build. Ram is double what you should be paying

[little osprey]

the ryzen 3200g has a gpu too tho

[rough forum]

thats solid but i dont like msi stuff

i have terrible experience with them

their customer service was god awful

[fading kiln]

@fading kiln you could cut a ton of money out or your build. Ram is double what you should be paying
@cursive magnet yeah that's what ive been thinking off. currently my build has 16 so i'm not gonna buy the ram right away

[stoic island]

Lemme start from the bottom so it makes more sense

[fading kiln]

i have terrible experience with them
@rough forum never had an issue with my current msi board, had this exact experience with the amd gpu i was talking about

[cursive magnet]

@fading kiln https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w3FKHx/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtznc

[rough forum]

glad to hear! i had an experience with msi where my laptop was in their shop for 8 out of the first 12 months of ownership....

sold it once they gave me an upgrade that didnt crash immediately on bootup

[fading kiln]

glad to hear! i had an experience with msi where my laptop was in their shop for 8 out of the first 12 months of ownership....
@rough forum holly damn

was it for work? the laptop

[stoic island]

I'm back

[fading kiln]

@fading kiln https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w3FKHx/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtznc
@cursive magnet wait how are these so much cheaper damn

[rough forum]

it was for school years ago, was terrible, i had to reach out to several reps and eventually a high ranking member was able to help out in the end with getting a replacement

[fading kiln]

at first glance i thought they were 2x 8GB

it was for school years ago, was terrible, i had to reach out to several reps and eventually a high ranking member was able to help out in the end with getting a replacement
jesus that sounds like a pain

[rough forum]

i kept getting sent back the same garbage laptop with worse issues each time

but yeah man thats why i never buy msi

[fading kiln]

yeah i get why u wouldnt lol

[stoic island]

@little osprey Gaming performance mainly depends on CPU and GPU. Everything else basically just aids the two. Imagine it as CPU does all the logic, and the GPU renders it into the image you see. Games are badly optimised, so they usually only use ~4 CPU threads, so the per-thread performance really matters.
In your case, with a 2400g, you'll start off with a better iGPU than the 10100, but when you upgrade to a better GPU, the 10100 will be better due to better single thread performance.

You'll be limited by the iGPU in either build as of now.

[rapid orbit]

Hey so I've been recruited by my school to put together a parts list for a pc that can be used to explain how a pc works / how to build a pc and I want to put together something cheap but still relatively mainstream and easy to disassemble and reassemble so that anything learned on this pc could transfer to others. Any suggestions?

[cursive magnet]

@fading kiln https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8sMQDc

[stoic island]

I can help make a list in a sec if no one can help you Neb.

[rapid orbit]

that would be helpful thanks, I've got a rough idea but not 100% sure

[stoic island]

Some fundamental questions, how much budget do you have and any special requirements?

[rapid orbit]

yeah ive asked about budget and never really gotten an answer so I'm gonna say around $600?

[stoic island]

Might be slightly tight, but should work. I'm on mobile rn so can't easily help.

[rapid orbit]

no problem

i could probably do a higher budget maybe

closer to 700

[stoic island]

I know 600/700$ can be done

[rapid orbit]

as long as its easy to build and disassemble repeatedly

[stoic island]

Actually I'll brb, I can edit one of my budget builds

[fading kiln]

@fading kiln https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8sMQDc
can you overclock a 5950x in air cooling?

[rapid orbit]

ok

[cursive magnet]

@fading kiln what are you doing with your machine that you need to OC a 5950x!!??

[thorny tusk]

5950x does not need to be oc

what are you doing

[fading kiln]

good question, tbh i doubt it will be needed but i do a lot of compiling, rendering etc

hence the big amounts of ram as well

[thorny tusk]

get like 5900

[stoic island]

Something like this @rapid orbit
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k2Bt8J

[thorny tusk]

32 gb is not a large amount

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bGyLPV

[stoic island]

Mainstream cpu gpu

[rapid orbit]

yeah i had something similar to this

yeah

[steel yacht]

It’s so hard to find a good case

[thorny tusk]

now that a high amount

[steel yacht]

Idk why

[stoic island]

Ssd+hdd for demonstration

[thorny tusk]

but not max

[fading kiln]

meant to go with 2x32

[rapid orbit]

yup

[thorny tusk]

Skill Ripjaws V 128 GB (4 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory

think about his

this

[stoic island]

Gammaxx 400 as example of good aftermarket cooler

[thorny tusk]

or this G.Skill Ripjaws V 256 GB (8 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory

[stoic island]

Mx330-g air as a fairly standard case with built in fans

[thorny tusk]

now thats over kill

[spiral zealot]

cougar MX cases ftw

[fading kiln]

gotta find a mb able to run that

[rapid orbit]

do you think an intel cpu would be any less susceptible to damage?

[stoic island]

Hm?

Imo

[spiral zealot]

i just built my mom a rig in a MX331 Mesh X and i have an MX331 Mesh-G for my personal rig

[rapid orbit]

because the pins aren't on it?

[stoic island]

Intel motherboard pins are much easier to break than AMD cpu pins

[thorny tusk]

is this only going to be used to take apart

[rapid orbit]

ok

thanks

then ill def use amd

[little osprey]

no

[stoic island]

Well if you're not dropping the cpu

[thorny tusk]

also does it need a cpu fan

@stoic island

[stoic island]

Because I see so much of people just accidentally bending mobo pins

It hurts to see

[little osprey]

dont let the fear of damaging a component sway your decision from price/perf

[rapid orbit]

aaaa

[stoic island]

@thorny tusk it's for demonstration purposes

[fading kiln]

[thorny tusk]

ah but the 3100 come with a fan right

[little osprey]

it has a stock cooler

[stoic island]

Yea

[little osprey]

so yes.. it comes with a fan lol

[thorny tusk]

then

it does not need 2

[stoic island]

But stock cooler mounting is fairly non-standard imo

It's clips

Not screws

[rapid orbit]

hmm

yeah

[stoic island]

Gammaxx 400 uses screws like most coolers afaik

[little osprey]

stock coolers are screw in

[thorny tusk]

yea but if you have the 3100 you dont need a fancy one

also mxmo is right

[little osprey]

@stoic island are u saying stock coolers use clips ?

[thorny tusk]

heres the image

[little osprey]

amd stock coolers, stealth spire and wraith use screw in mounting mechanisms

tower coolers are the ones with clips

[whole harbor]

rate the pc and tell me tips pls https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jKjgt8

[thorny tusk]

is the budget 600

[whole harbor]

$700

[little osprey]

personally if it's for gaming i'd go intel

[thorny tusk]

and you can save money on the case

but amd is beating out intel

[little osprey]

what ?

not in this price range

[thorny tusk]

not yet

[little osprey]

whats that supposed to mean ?

[thorny tusk]

there coming

[little osprey]

amd is gonna release a cpu to combat 10400f ?

kek

[stoic island]

@little osprey hmm

Prism uses clips

[whole harbor]

what mb and cpu do i get

[stoic island]

I thought stealth did too

[whole harbor]

what abt the case?

[little osprey]

I thought stealth did too
@stoic island oh u mean clips to base, not clips to tower

[thorny tusk]

the case could be cheaper so you have more money on other things

[whole harbor]

Which case?

[stoic island]

Oh not fan clips lmao

[little osprey]

ahh yea i thought it wouldve been a misunderstanding

[thorny tusk]

cooler Master MasterBox Q300L

[stoic island]

lol

[thorny tusk]

its like 32

thats what i use

[stoic island]

@thorny tusk MX330-g air comes with 3 fans tho

[thorny tusk]

how much

[little osprey]

stealth and prism use clips to base

[stoic island]

55$

[little osprey]

and spire uses screw mount

[stoic island]

yea

3100 should use stealth

[little osprey]

i thought u meant fan mount kek

[stoic island]

yea no

[little osprey]

3100 uses stealth ??

[stoic island]

it should?

[little osprey]

i thought it used spire

[stoic island]

stealth is the low end one

3600 uses stealth

[little osprey]

naw spire is low end one

[stoic island]

if 3100 gets spire...

[rapid orbit]

thanks for the help btw

[stoic island]

@little osprey I'm 80% sure it's spire mid end

stealth low end

I have a spire from my old 2700

[thorny tusk]

and you may want to get like 1 tb hard drive storage

[little osprey]

ohh

[pseudo forge]

Help quick

Is this worth it?

Just the cpu and motherboard

[thorny tusk]

depends

[stoic island]

yea stealth is low end

spire mid

[whole harbor]

so what do i do?

[pseudo forge]

@stoic island pc expert is that deal worth it

[little osprey]

on amd's website it says 2600x comes with spire when mine came with stealth df

[thorny tusk]

@whole harbor for what

[stoic island]

lol

do it

[stoic island]

5600x stock is running low

[pseudo forge]

How much am I overpaying

[stoic island]

and b550-plus isn't a bad board

[whole harbor]

3 3100 is stealth

[pseudo forge]

If I got both together

Separate sorry

[stoic island]

Assuming USD -> GBP without conversion

none

[pseudo forge]

So it’s a good deal

[whole harbor]

@thorny tusk someone said get intel cpu

[stoic island]

It's good nuff

[whole harbor]

@stoic island any suggestions? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jKjgt8

[pseudo forge]

Do you think the ryzen CPU’s will be out of stock for long?

I’m buying the rest of my parts in December

[stoic island]

eek

[thorny tusk]

@whole harbor thats up to you but amd is propley better if you use your pc for any else

[raven mirage]

Hey what what be a good motherboard for overclocking a ryzen 7 5800x

[stoic island]

oh well

[thorny tusk]

other then gameing

at that price

[whole harbor]

im using mainly for gaming

Occasinal editinng

[cursive magnet]

Why??? @raven mirage

[whole harbor]

And school work

[little osprey]

id go intel at that price point

[thorny tusk]

anf do you intend to upgrade the parts

like the cpu

[whole harbor]

what intel cpu and mb tho?

@little osprey

[little osprey]

10100 and h410

[raven mirage]

I plan to do gaming and graphics design @cursive magnet

[little osprey]

u could fit 5600xt if u go intel btw

[whole harbor]

I3 or i5?

[little osprey]

i3

[stoic island]

@whole harbor try this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y6j9NP

[thorny tusk]

but if you go there suport last longer

[stoic island]

and also

[cursive magnet]

I say again, WHY? @raven mirage what are you doing with it??

[thorny tusk]

amd

[stoic island]

the Intel comment doesn't apply to you

[still roost]

Mxmo#1907 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

oh damn

[thorny tusk]

lol intel

[stoic island]

bad wordy boi

[little osprey]

i get warned now

instead of getting kicked

dope

also u can fit 5600xt for 250 usd in that build btw

iirc dlvn said budget was 700

[thorny tusk]

do you need a monitor

[raven mirage]

I plan to do gaming and graphic design @cursive magnet

[stoic island]

hm?

[whole harbor]

so i dont go intel?

[stoic island]

yea

[thorny tusk]

i would not

[little osprey]

u could fit 5600xt with amd btw

lemme do list for u

[stoic island]

the "going intel" comment only applied because it was a really unique situation at 300usd without a GPU

doesn't apply when you have wiggle room in the budget

[thorny tusk]

but you do not get to upgrade the cpu on the mother board that much

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mc7F8J

@stoic island @whole harbor

[stoic island]

works

[night shuttle]

Im a new pc user and was wondering if anyone could help me determine if i could add another hard drive to my motherboard. I have this pc https://www.newegg.ca/abs-computer-technologies-ali432/p/N82E16883360011?Item=N82E16883360011 and am looking to add this hard drive https://www.newegg.ca/seagate-barracuda-st2000dm008-2tb/p/N82E16822184773?Item=N82E16822184773 . What do yall think

[little osprey]

5600xt > 1660

hard drive will work with ur mobo if it has sata ports

also u linked a rebuilt

[stoic island]

I'm tryna look at the case if it has harddrive bays

[thorny tusk]

yep

[little osprey]

ohh

@night shuttle take front panel off and see if theres a drive bay

[stoic island]

might not have a hard drive bay

[little osprey]

could be in psu shroud

[stoic island]

check under shroud as needed

[thorny tusk]

they go on the back bord

[cursive magnet]

@raven mirage I’m a Displacement vs Tuning guy. If you’re concerned you have to OC, just buy the right CPU.

[little osprey]

@night shuttle remove front panel

[night shuttle]

ok ill do that rn

[stoic island]

I think you mean side panel

but yea

[little osprey]

ehh front panel is easier

just pops right off

[stoic island]

on prebuilts?

not usually

[little osprey]

most cases u can see the drive bay if u pop out the front panel

[stoic island]

oh well

like I don't see this coming off easily lel

[little osprey]

i suppose the side panel would be a better option but yee

[whole harbor]

Will the builds u guys sent work strictly with newegg and amazon?

[little osprey]

oh yea its got rgb on the front, might be a push pin design tho

[thorny tusk]

what does removing the front do

[little osprey]

my brothers prebuilt has one like that

[stoic island]

who knows

[little osprey]

only one way to find out

[night shuttle]

should i turn off the pc before opening it up

[little osprey]

of course

[stoic island]

your choice

[thorny tusk]

yep

[stoic island]

:D

[little osprey]

switch off power supply

just to be safe

[stoic island]

yea

[night shuttle]

ok

[thorny tusk]

so i like to play with live power

dies

[whole harbor]

The lowest the 5600 xt is $280

[little osprey]

no

[stoic island]

there's one with a promo on newegg

[little osprey]

u can go 250

[whole harbor]

on newegg

[little osprey]

310 msrp with 60 usd

[whole harbor]

For me

[stoic island]

there's a coupon iirc

[little osprey]

mhm

lemme link

https://www.newegg.com/asus-radeon-rx-5600-xt-dual-rx5600xt-t6g-evo/p/N82E16814126428?Description=asus 5600xt&cm_re=asus_5600xt-_-14-126-428-_-Product&quicklink=true

[whole harbor]

$310

[little osprey]

yep msrp 310 with promo code for 60 usd off

@whole harbor

[whole harbor]

How long does it last

[little osprey]

wym

[thorny tusk]

1 9

[little osprey]

it's not like a cheapo gpu

[thorny tusk]

the 9

[little osprey]

its a fairly well built one just has a promo code goin on :P

[night shuttle]

alright i popped it off, what am i looking for now

[sharp tundra]

But that one has only 3 eggs

[stoic island]

Bro

[whole harbor]

Im not planning on buying it within this month or decem

[night shuttle]

sorry i am a noob

[thorny tusk]

thats just dum peole

[little osprey]

alright i popped it off, what am i looking for now
@night shuttle look towards the bottom, see if theres a drivebay

[whole harbor]

More like jan+

[stoic island]

Customer reviews are dumb

[little osprey]

^

[stoic island]

Have you seen B550m pro-vdh on newegg?

[thorny tusk]

it will be like it green screened

[stoic island]

it has like 2.5 egg or 3 egg

yet it's still a good motherboard

[little osprey]

pro vdh wifi is one of the best budget wifi boards out der :P

[stoic island]

it's just people being dum imo

[thorny tusk]

and its just that por install

[sharp tundra]

True, but there could be some truth in the review

[little osprey]

oh mr1 the front panel popped off btw

[thorny tusk]

so times

[stoic island]

oh nice

[thorny tusk]

but most of the time

[whole harbor]

The 1660 super

[stoic island]

tbh I won't listen to customer reviews most of the time

[whole harbor]

Is so expensive on amazon

[little osprey]

yea

5600xt > 2060 > 1660s

[stoic island]

uhhh

[little osprey]

in terms of price/perf

[whole harbor]

Thank god newegg

[little osprey]

wait other way around

[stoic island]

2060 > 5600xt > 1660s for perf

[little osprey]

for perf yea but price/perf 5600xt takes the lead

[stoic island]

price wise USUALLY is similar

[narrow rose]

@stoic island lots of DOA in the reviews but that could be because of AMD and which cpu works without bios updates

[stoic island]

it's 300$/280$/240$

hm?

which reviews

[narrow rose]

B550m pro-vdh

[stoic island]

oh no

those reviews were from like a year ago

[whole harbor]

Is it bad to get it overclocked?

[stoic island]

I looked into it with Naed once

[night shuttle]

is the drive bay normally by the power supply?

[little osprey]

most new b550 batches work with matisse

is the drive bay normally by the power supply?
@night shuttle just send us a pic of what u can see

[stoic island]

it was just dumb with 80% of the reviews I saw a few months ago

[night shuttle]

ok will do

[little osprey]

its towards the front of case usually, located in the psu shroud

[sharp tundra]

Not saying I'm going to, but do you guys know if the b450-m pro4 allow OC?

[whole harbor]

@stoic island is it bad to get it overclocked?

[stoic island]

meh

@sharp tundra why not

[narrow rose]

Bricked on Arrival (times two)
9/26/2020 6:55:04 PM
two boards both fail
9/1/2020 3:09:42 PM

[thorny tusk]

overclocker

[whole harbor]

Im going for the long term

[thorny tusk]

what

[narrow rose]

those are pretty recent

[sharp tundra]

Idk, I know some mobos don't allow it

[stoic island]

I haven't read those then

[thorny tusk]

i would say oc is not great

[stoic island]

because when I read them like 3 months ago

it was like "does not boot, must be bios issue" kind of reasoning

and there was even one with a 3400g

[stoic island]

and they never considered B550 and 3rd gen APUs aren't compatible lel

[narrow rose]

well and the whole bios not working with different gens is going to get bad reviews they dont deserve

[little osprey]

oh he got the side panel off

this is what u should be looking for

[stoic island]

@narrow rose the issue isn't bios

[little osprey]

pointing right at it

lemme get a better pic

[stoic island]

a lot of them are just not booting

[sharp tundra]

Put your finger in the moving one lol

[stoic island]

people reading "oh other guy had bios issue, my issue must be bios"

so I'd put my bet on people doing dumb things

and blaming it on the mobo

Because when I looked, no issues with B550m pro vdh bios

[narrow rose]

@stoic island yeah thats what I mean people not knowing to flash bios returning them

[night shuttle]

I dont think it has one damn

[stoic island]

it's not flashing bios

it's just no booting

[narrow rose]

ah

[stoic island]

There's no reason to suspect bios was ever an issue

[little osprey]

Deaf look closely

[stoic island]

with reviews being 3400g not working with B550

[stoic island]

that's just dumb

[little osprey]

this could be a drive bay

[narrow rose]

lol I agree there

[little osprey]

take back panel off

[narrow rose]

not that it could be a drive bay I'm agreeing with @stoic island

[little osprey]

yea yea

[stoic island]

@narrow rose my bet is on 80% of the issue with bios is just them screwing up on build, like say forgot to plug in eps 8 pin

[little osprey]

kek

[night shuttle]

Ok ill take panel off

[little osprey]

back panel

remember

[narrow rose]

@stoic island LOL I totally still do that every now and then not pluging in that 8 pin

[stoic island]

lel

[narrow rose]

never used to be a thing

[little osprey]

ah my first pc was an fx 6300 and rx 560

i remember opening that puppy up for the first time and seeing pure and utter disappointment

[narrow rose]

I had an intel (bunch of numbers) i486 as my first pc

[sharp tundra]

Lol, my first pc is gonna be a decent beast

[whole harbor]

@stoic island do i get a 5600xt or 1660s

[narrow rose]

5600xt

[little osprey]

5600xt over 1660s

[sharp tundra]

5600xt

[little osprey]

there seems to be ventilation here

which might indicate a drive bay

[night shuttle]

I am not confident in taking this thing apart ugh

[stoic island]

it's just screws

[whole harbor]

Is powercolor a good brand?

[sharp tundra]

Ugh, I'm at work right now and have nothing to do...

[earnest ravine]

This is the one im thinking about getting https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475047

[little osprey]

if ur not confident in taking it apart how do u plan on installing an hdd

[earnest ravine]

Is it good for the money

[night shuttle]

Good point

[little osprey]

what panel is that ?

oh ips

[spiral zealot]

powercolor can be good, depends on which model you get

[stoic island]

G241 :D

I like it

[little osprey]

me too

190 for 144hz 1ms 1080p ips panel

[spiral zealot]

if you're talking 5600XT, the red devil is solid, the red dragon is ok

[whole harbor]

is a $280 5600 xt worth?

[night shuttle]

So take this side off

[little osprey]

\

no silly

these screws

[polar anvil]

which is better for gaming rx580 or 1650 super

[little osprey]

@night shuttle unscrew these

and pull on this :P

[earnest ravine]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475047 im thinking about getting this is this good

[little osprey]

yes

[little osprey]

for 190 usd 1080p 144hz 1ms and an IPS panel featuring freesync is great

[night shuttle]

That thing

[stoic island]

eh

[little osprey]

yes we got a drive bay !!

[whole harbor]

someone send link to the cheapest 5600xt no discount

[night shuttle]

Woot woot

[little osprey]

someone send link to the cheapest 5600xt no discount
@whole harbor bruh.

[polar anvil]

which is better for gaming rx580 or 1650 super
@little osprey

[stoic island]

sometimes viewsonic has a ips 144hz monitor go to 160$ on sale

[little osprey]

someone send link to the cheapest 5600xt no discount
@whole harbor gaming x

[night shuttle]

Thanks for the help

[whole harbor]

Gaming x

Wat dat

[little osprey]

which is better for gaming rx580 or 1650 super
@little osprey
@polar anvil they go hand in hand get whichevers cheaper

[narrow rose]

I would have just plugged it in and let it roll around in the bottom of the case lol

[little osprey]

haha i would only do that with an ssd

[sharp tundra]

Probably the sapphire thicc pro ii

[cursive magnet]

@narrow rose Double@sided sticky tape

[little osprey]

kek

[whole harbor]

Whats the best pc for $550

(not prebuilt)

[thorny tusk]

not great

[sharp tundra]

I wouldn't recommend a pre-built even if your budget was $100

[whole harbor]

Would the i3-9100 or 10100 version be a good cpu for $550

Budget

[little osprey]

@whole harbor hey bud what r u doin ?

u had a budget of 700 usd a few minutes ago

[whole harbor]

This is a backup build

Just incase

[little osprey]

backup build..?

[sharp tundra]

Huh?

[whole harbor]

I have to lower it

personal issues

Or periphaks

Periphals

[little osprey]

huh..

odd but okay

budget is..?

[whole harbor]

550

[polar anvil]

does black friday have good deals for pc parts

[sharp tundra]

So your budget is really $550

[whole harbor]

No

[sharp tundra]

?

[little osprey]

dulvn what is ur budget ??

[cursive magnet]

700 with peripheral

[whole harbor]

its might be that i mught not

Want to spend that much

[little osprey]

what ??

[whole harbor]

Either

[little osprey]

okay listen

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pxJDcT

700 usd pcpp

best price/perf out there (without coupons cus for some reason u refuse to sue those)

[whole harbor]

cause im not planning to buy right away

[little osprey]

how long ?

[polar anvil]

should i wait for black fridq\ay to build my pc

[little osprey]

i would ^

[polar anvil]

why?

[little osprey]

@whole harbor how long will u wait before date of purchase ?

[whole harbor]

idk but prob in. A couple months

[little osprey]

cus everythings cheaper on black friday/cyber monday

idk but prob in. A couple months
@whole harbor silly what r u doing here then ?

prices fluctuate all the time

come back a week before date of purchase

that way youll have a set budget

[whole harbor]

Mk

[little osprey]

should i wait for black fridq\ay to build my pc
@polar anvil also if u wait iirc rdna 2 will come out and hopefully 10100f also releases by that time

[polar anvil]

mxmo i am building my pc in late november and my budget is 620 max

[little osprey]

late nov ?

[polar anvil]

yeah

like the week of thanksgiving

so any idea for 620 or what I should wait for

[sharp tundra]

Ur gonna need a 3080

[little osprey]

3080 is literally more expensive than this mans budget

[sharp tundra]

Lol

[little osprey]

so any idea for 620 or what I should wait for
@polar anvil https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W8vQDc this with 1650s or rx 580

hang on to that list for a bit

[polar anvil]

alr

[little osprey]

act mr 1111 might be able to help u but rn i have to sign off

@stoic island

[timid bronze]

I want to build a new setup based on the 5600x and rtx 3070, i want to build it in the lian li dynamic razer edition and i want that all of my rgb will be corsair so it will be easier to control from one program only. Can someone please send me a complete pc part picker list?

[little osprey]

seems like youve got a whole build planned out

but i got you give me a few minutes

i highly advise against the lian li 011 dynamic as well as corsair fans but if thats what u want i can make a pcpp for u

@timid bronze

just saying there are much better options out there for the price

i assume u want the LL120's ?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xgGYgt

it hurt me making this but here ya go

i tried to make it price/perf oriented while still following your preferences @timid bronze

[timid bronze]

Why are you against the corsair fans?

What is the better choice

[little osprey]

youre paying 130 usd for 3 fans lol

besides the lian li 011 is an expensive case for terrible airflow (unless u got tons of fans in there) which is just a waste of money imo

but hey we all have different preferences

[timid bronze]

I planned on 6 fans😬

[little osprey]

ill add 3 more

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bp7F8J

just saying a p400a will outmatch lian li 011 with 6 fans any day

[timid bronze]

You can choose other fans if you think they are better for the price, i just want it to be easy to sync the rgb

It says compatibility warning at the top of the page @little osprey

[north wagon]

my pc currently https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/w2mHz7

[narrow rose]

holy monster pc

[timid bronze]

Mama mia

That thing got more storage than my brain

[narrow rose]

@north wagon you sir need a 4k monitor

and thats really all I can recommend there

[timid bronze]

Cl19 ram

[north wagon]

waiting for black friday and already have a lg gsync tv

[timid bronze]

Haha what a loser

Jk😂

[narrow rose]

lol other than that its 4400mhz... so cl19 is great

[timid bronze]

Yeah its amazing bro

Insane pc

[north wagon]

I have the ram at 4500 cl18 right now

[narrow rose]

thats about as fast a RAM can be right now

[timid bronze]

Sure show off even more why not

[north wagon]

This is not a flex but just to show what my pc looks like right now

[timid bronze]

So icy 🥶

[narrow rose]

nice

[north wagon]

ice cold lol

[timid bronze]

The green razed rgb annoys me

[north wagon]

the mouse is charging lol

if it wasn't there it would be blue

[deep skiff]

gotta say not a fan of those fans the rgb looks so weird on them

[timid bronze]

I think i might buy the viper ultimate as well im a razer freak

[little osprey]

It says compatibility warning at the top of the page @little osprey
@timid bronze that’s b550 on vermeer cpus. pcpp being kinda dumb should ship with zen 3 ready

[timid bronze]

Oh ok bro @little osprey

What do u say about the corsair icue 465 case @little osprey

I think thats the name of the case im not sure

[little osprey]

Can I get a
Cpu
Gpu
Mobo
For only $300?

[north wagon]

the razer viper ultimate is great

[little osprey]

I'm broke af

[north wagon]

I think an apu is more your budget

[little osprey]

I think an apu is more your budget
@north wagon ryzen 5 3400g?

[timid bronze]

You built your pc yourself? @north wagon

[stoic island]

hai im bak

@little osprey try intel 10100+B460+1650 super

I think that might fit

[deep skiff]

wait are they gonna have the 11100 next year

[little osprey]

@little osprey try intel 10100+B460+1650 super
@stoic island whats the CPU?

[stoic island]

10100

[little osprey]

Ok

[stoic island]

hm

no

[timid bronze]

What should i get 2.5 ssd 1tb to install games on or 2tb hdd

[lyric thistle]

no?

[stoic island]

@little osprey this gets close, maybe a used rx580 for 100$ and you can do it
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PvxCf9

[little osprey]

Imma check it out

Ty

[grim tide]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jrJDcT ?????

[lyric thistle]

1TB ssd is around 110 USD, while 2TB hdd is around 60

[north wagon]

yes I did build it myself

[timid bronze]

Does the ssd speed up game load times? @lyric thistle

Like very noticeably

[lyric thistle]

eh

[grim tide]

@lyric thistle can you see if my list is a good casual gaming/school

[lyric thistle]

depends on the game, how old the game is, what kind of loading, etc.

[timid bronze]

I play warzone most of the time and cs go

[grim tide]

basic games like RL nad i might use it for editing @lyric thistle

and*

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ccmp2V The system I wish I could put together if my wallet would allow it for all my 3d modeling and gaming needs

[lyric thistle]

800 dollars for a build with an RX 580 is a bit much

[grim tide]

ok

[little osprey]

800 dollars for a build with an RX 580 is a bit much
@lyric thistle u could do 5600xt with 800

[grim tide]

so it should change rx 580

[timid bronze]

I wish prices were that cheap in my country like its in the usa

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jrJDcT ?????
@grim tide oh no..

no no no

[lyric thistle]

I'm making a list for you atm @grim tide

[little osprey]

Maniac i trust it will be better than the original

[grim tide]

ok

[little osprey]

do ping me once maniac makes a list

[grim tide]

@lyric thistle budget around 700-750

:))

[little osprey]

@stoic island is that good?

its a 100 bucks

[timid bronze]

Ali express kinda sus in my opinion

[stoic island]

nah

580 4g not nice either

[little osprey]

it aint ali express

its like amazon here

Is rx 580 bad

[raven mirage]

Will you have to update the bios on the Asus ROG Strix x570-e for ryzen 5800x?

[little osprey]

naw iirc it’ll ship with bios ready

[raven mirage]

Thank you @little osprey

[lyric thistle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7r7JfP @grim tide @little osprey

[little osprey]

how bot this

its 180 bucks

[lyric thistle]

RX 580 isn't bad @little osprey

[little osprey]

Is it worth it

[lyric thistle]

about tthe same as a 1650 Super

sure, you can get 580s cheaper than 1650 Supers

[little osprey]

Maniac that’s a much better build

[lyric thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-crossed-arms-pikachu-eyes-closed-pokemon-gif-15194868

[little osprey]

if you can flex 20 usd more you can pick up a 5600xt iirc

its 180 bucks
@little osprey @stoic island

if you can flex 20 usd more you can pick up a 5600xt iirc
@little osprey

u mean 200 bucks more

thats too expensive

[toxic widget]

What’s the difference in the rm 750x to rm 750? The 750x is like $10 more.

[little osprey]

This is my friends list

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/FzKVcT

Any recommendations

[winged tinsel]

Is an asrock motherboard alright for an r7 3700x and an rx 6800?

[little osprey]

@little osprey wasnt talking to u, was referring to maniacs usd list. 5600xf is at 250 usd right now

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/FzKVcT

My friends list any recommendations

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/FzKVcT
@little osprey case fans with no case 👀

[winged tinsel]

Is an asrock phantom gaming 4 motherboard alright for an r7 3700x and an rx 6800?

[little osprey]

it’s perfecto ✨

if u need wifi go pro vdh

@little osprey https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/FzKVcT

[winged tinsel]

So you think that motherboard would work fine @little osprey ?

[little osprey]

iirc pro vdh has better vrms than G4 but pro 4 is also in 100 had sale

it’ll work fine yes

[fading kiln]

anyone built a MicroATX build with 3080

[little osprey]

@little osprey

@little osprey https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/FzKVcT
@little osprey i still see no case..

Ik he is deciding

It’s my friends list

ditch the rgb ram, 5700xt gaming x is cheaper, amp 750 over corsair 650, ditch the case fans and if u want a good case p400a is perfect

[fervent cloak]

why do people care so much about rgb ram

like bruh

[little osprey]

What’s the brand of amp

Phanteks

model > brand

@timber skiff is my friend

Talk to him

[timber skiff]

rgb = more fps

[little osprey]

i knew ive seen that pcpp somewhere before

okay it’s your money i’m not telling u what to do with it

[timber skiff]

bruh

^

[little osprey]

all i’m doing is suggesting you to ditch the rgb ram, go for gaming x 5700xt cus it’s cheaper, for a case p400a is a really good option, get rid of those case fans p400a stock is enough, as well as amp 750 > corsair 650

is this good for a budget build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bj9xXv

[timber skiff]

YEAH

oops^

[little osprey]

where’s the rest of the build @little osprey

[timber skiff]

its pretty good for gaming

[winged tinsel]

Yeah there is nothing there lol

[timber skiff]

i wouldnt say 4k or 1440p tho

[winged tinsel]

No case no ram no ssd or hard drive

[little osprey]

ehh i wouldn’t call it “pretty good” it’s a 570 kek

[timber skiff]

bro its just the main parts of the build

[little osprey]

save up a bit for 580 or 1650s

where’s the rest of the build @little osprey
@little osprey i already have
psu
case
sdd
hard drive
here

oh okay that’s alright

save up a bit for a better gpu then

ok

@timber skiff hopefully i could be a bit of a help to you

[inland parrot]

So is the ryzen 5 3600 still good for 2020- future if i dont want buy the 5000 serires yet

[little osprey]

yes 3600 is alright for 2020

no need to stress over not being able to purchase zen 3

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NPgcTJ

is that good?

[mystic needle]

should i go for the radeon 6800 or the 3070 when they come back in stock

[little osprey]

for a budget build

[lyric thistle]

that's a bad price on that 570, if it weren't that expensive I would say you're getting there??? @little osprey

[little osprey]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/pzFnLP

that's a bad price on that 570, if it weren't that expensive I would say you're getting there??? @little osprey
@lyric thistle im trying to find a used 570

[lyric thistle]

and you do seem to want Ryzen 5000 support since you're going with a B550 board

[little osprey]

Is AOC 24g2 good

[lyric thistle]

do you have an SSD in mind @little osprey ?

[little osprey]

do you have an SSD in mind @little osprey ?
@lyric thistle no

[queen totem]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3WJHz7

is this good

[lyric thistle]

do you want one?

[little osprey]

Ram=stinky

[lyric thistle]

it's a good idea to have one

[little osprey]

do you have an SSD in mind @little osprey ?
@lyric thistle what do u recomend?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3WJHz7
@queen totem ram = stinky

[queen totem]

ok

[little osprey]

Crucial balistik 3600 is good

[queen totem]

what do u think is better

[lyric thistle]

Team MP34, Crucial P1

[little osprey]

Is AOC 24g2 good

Team MP34, Crucial P1
@lyric thistle 1tb?

[lyric thistle]

I look at 500GB models personally

their price makes the most sense to me

I bought a 500GB WD Blue

2.5", I don't have NVMe

it was like 65 bucks

a 1TB model would be probably more or less double that of a 500GB, and a 250GB would be something like 80% the price of a 500GB

[paper eagle]

So my little brother is looking for a new computer. His budget is around $700 to $1000 USD. Any recommendations? For a 14 year old who loves to play fortnite, valorant, and league of legends.

[stoic island]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/2P8cbv

[versed rock]

Not a bad build.

I would have gone with the MP34, but the P1 at least isn't utter trash.

I also wouldn't have put an mATX motherboard in an ATX case.

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J9y2Vc

if only we were rich lmao

[versed rock]

sigh

We really need a rule of "No Meme Builds in Build Chat"

[fading kiln]

I also wouldn't have put an mATX motherboard in an ATX case.
my first build has that and i quickly found out why

[versed rock]

Yeah, they look stupid.

[fading kiln]

oh they do

trying to fit a 5950x and a 3080 in a 2.5k build, got any recommendations? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YfDdDc

im fairly new to this all

[versed rock]

Why a 3080?

Why not wait for the 6800XT to launch?

And then wait for the reviews.

Also, Liquid Cooling bad

Case bad

Motherboard Overkill AF

And hella expensive

[narrow rose]

the real question is why the 5950x instead of the 5900x

[versed rock]

The REAL question why the 5950X instead of the 5600X

[narrow rose]

well that too

[versed rock]

Are you doing any uber-ultra special Rendering stuff?

[fading kiln]

good question

[versed rock]

Or are you just gaming?

[fading kiln]

Are you doing any uber-ultra special Rendering stuff?
@versed rock quite a bit of rendering and compiling for code

[versed rock]

What kind of rendering?

[fading kiln]

the ram will also be 64gigs after a bit

[narrow rose]

code? not video

[fading kiln]

3d design

[narrow rose]

ok

[timid bronze]

Is the 3090 good for 1080p 60hz?

[versed rock]

Eff off Splash.

[timid bronze]

😂

[versed rock]

That's literally the most dumb question I have EVER heard in my life.

[narrow rose]

its still overkill for most 3d design apps

[fading kiln]

true

[timid bronze]

How many people did i just triggered

[fading kiln]

its still overkill for most 3d design apps
hm i see

[narrow rose]

but it does justify a 5900x

[versed rock]

I would start with a 5900X and 6800XT

[fading kiln]

first time i've been recommended a 6800XT

when are they supposed to launch

[versed rock]

The extra VRAM the 6800XT will likely be better than the slim 10GB the 3080 has

[fading kiln]

im planning on building the pc near hollidays?

[narrow rose]

well yeah I wont recommend one until I see them out in the wild

[versed rock]

Rendering 3D Scenes eats VRAM

But, again wait for Benchmarks.

[sullen spoke]

always best to wait if you can

[versed rock]

The 6800XT launches.... 11/18/20

[fading kiln]

oh ok doable then

[narrow rose]

plus there could actually be some workstation advantages to an all team red setup

[versed rock]

Yeah.

[grim tide]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7r7JfP @grim tide @little osprey
@lyric thistle thank you so much dude

[fading kiln]

you think

[lyric thistle]

yw

[versed rock]

The CPU has direct access to the VRAM of the GPU when you do Ryzen 5000, B550 or X570, and a 6000 series GPU.

[narrow rose]

its very possible I wouldnt expect any gain in gaming but in workstation applications its a real possiblity

[fading kiln]

nvidia has been quite handy to me tbh the 6800XT will have to be very good to get me interested

[little osprey]

The CPU has direct access to the VRAM of the GPU when you do Ryzen 5000, B550 or X570, and a 6000 series GPU.
@versed rock smart access memory is what it’s called iirc

[narrow rose]

but we still need to see it to believe it

[sinful hornet]

mate you gotta call it sam

cant just call it smart access memory

[lyric thistle]

yoooooo it's sam

[timid bronze]

Do i need the corsair commander pro if im planning on buying corsair fans?

Rgb fans ofc

[lyric thistle]

not really?

[timid bronze]

Is that a yes or a no

[lyric thistle]

maybe idk

[timid bronze]

😅

[still roost]

Spl4sH#1765 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[lyric thistle]

I don't think about RGB fans 😎

[timid bronze]

Oops

Rgb is hard to understand

So many things can go wrong with syncing and stuff like that

[narrow rose]

its called garbage software

[raw mist]

any suggestions on a pc case? budget is around 75 usd or 100 cad. ATX form factor and preferably rgb

[narrow rose]

https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p400a-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854086?Description=p400a&cm_re=p400a-_-11-854-086-_-Product&quicklink=true

[raw mist]

thx

[narrow rose]

I feel like I should have bought stock in Phanteks or get some sort of kick back for p400a suggestions

[uncut pelican]

Good evening

Eggs that are new

[narrow rose]

🥚 🥚 🥚

[uncut pelican]

Only giving it three eggs? Smh

[narrow rose]

LOL

[uncut pelican]

I perfer the full 5

[timid bronze]

For amd cpus 3200 cl16 or 3600 cl 18?

[uncut pelican]

Anything lower is a lost cause

@timid bronze good question

[narrow rose]

3600 cl16

[timid bronze]

Tnx sherlock

[narrow rose]

cl18 if you had to but there are inexpensive options

[little osprey]

Is 5600x worth it

[cloud oasis]

Yes

Ofc

[little osprey]

Ok

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/vPdTJf

[cursive magnet]

@little osprey https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824737012?&quicklink=true

[little osprey]

https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16824737012?&quicklink=true

[cursive magnet]

@little osprey Could probably shave a bit off on some place, there are definite peripheral improvements in the same price range

[nocturne carbon]

i have a $600 CAD budget

pls help

all the builds on yt are in USD so when converted the $500 builds become $750 builds

[thorny tusk]

What

[nocturne carbon]

for my pc im not including periderals

[thorny tusk]

That's not how money works

What currency do you use

[nocturne carbon]

well the budget parts all put together cost around $700

i use canadian dollar

[thorny tusk]

Oh yes canda

Your going to have to down grade parts you got a list

[nocturne carbon]

ryzen 3 3100 $130
asrock b450m $100
EVGA gtx 1660 super

[thorny tusk]

Ok

So what ram

And box

Also try pcpartpicker

[nocturne carbon]

RAM ill do any
1TB m.2 SSD (ANY BRAND)

500 Watt psu

[cursive magnet]

@little osprey https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/DwLXbh

[sinful hornet]

bruh

1tb m.2

what

[nocturne carbon]

wut

[sinful hornet]

you're not getting a 1tb ssd in a $600 budget

m.2 ssd at that

[nocturne carbon]

theres some room for exceptions

NvME or m.2

[sinful hornet]

its really not that big of a difference from hard drive to m.2

[nocturne carbon]

its an internal ssd that goes right in to mobo

[sinful hornet]

maybe 5 seconds in game load times

[nocturne carbon]

uh no

theres some room for upgrades

like max $200

[sinful hornet]

sooo. an $800 budget?

[nocturne carbon]

but try too keep within $600

yes but compromises

[sinful hornet]

those comprimises should be put towards a gpu and cpu

like this

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NQrBcT

[nocturne carbon]

can we bring down the power supply wattage

[cursive magnet]

@nocturne carbon https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KNJDGc

[thorny tusk]

You can save on the case

[nocturne carbon]

500 watts should be good?

[sinful hornet]

tru

[thorny tusk]

Don't use intel

[sinful hornet]

yes, but thats one of the cheaper overall posu's

most 500 watt power supplies are more expensive

[nocturne carbon]

also replace 1tb hard drive with 500gb SSD

[cursive magnet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pDpPTC

[sinful hornet]

you can do that if you want

[thorny tusk]

@cursive magnet intel bad

[sinful hornet]

build off the template

[nocturne carbon]

amd build only

ryzen 3 or 5

depending on sales

[cursive magnet]

And I goofed on CAD, Theres and AMD build

[nocturne carbon]

like rn i dont mind paying $50 extra for 5th gen processor

[cursive magnet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pDpPTC

[sinful hornet]

you cant get a 4th gen processor in a $600 budget build ;-;

maybe in USD

but not in CAD

[thorny tusk]

That true as supply is limited

So it may be a while before you could get one

[sinful hornet]

besides, im using the 3600 is a 1.6k build

*in a

[thorny tusk]

Ye the 3600 is very good

[cursive magnet]

CAD adds 200$ to that AMD build, gross

[nocturne carbon]

yep

told ya

[sinful hornet]

just change currency to canada on pc part picker

[cursive magnet]

Rub your Toonies together

[sinful hornet]

and build yourself a system based off the templates we offered

based on what you want

easy

[nocturne carbon]

im gonna use newegg amazon, memory express, can computers, and amazon

[thorny tusk]

Also you can get better value on psu

[nocturne carbon]

i know but the price is bad

[cursive magnet]

WHen in doubt, throw more money at it

lol

[nocturne carbon]

also how do the rebates work?
cuz in the flyer is says $60 but when i open it,
it says $100

[thorny tusk]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VGj4rV

That right under correct

[cursive magnet]

Newegg rebates are just a print out you send in with UPC

[nocturne carbon]

CADN ?

[thorny tusk]

Yes

[nocturne carbon]

but what do the rebates do ?

[thorny tusk]

They give you money back

[cursive magnet]

If its instant it comes off in cart, or you get a check back

[nocturne carbon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VGj4rV
@thorny tusk wow its actually withiin budget

and now i have room to uprgade parts and money for periferals

i can upgrade to a 580 and a 1tb ssd

[thorny tusk]

Had to shave the power supply

Not modular

[nocturne carbon]

thats fine

[thorny tusk]

But it's good

[nocturne carbon]

good deals on evga website for psu

[little osprey]

I finally achieved 100% GPU usage

[thorny tusk]

Lol

[little osprey]

Gpu was 100%, cpu 31%, RAM was 14%@thorny tusk

[thorny tusk]

What where you doing

[little osprey]

PCBS

[thorny tusk]

Also how much ram

And what cpu

[little osprey]

48gb ram, 5 3600 cpu

Asus rog strix OC 5500XT

[nocturne carbon]

called me broke in so many languages just now

using ur RAM alone

[little osprey]

?

Oh lol

[thorny tusk]

48gb lol

Is that 3 16

[nocturne carbon]

cries in 2x4gb waiting in cart

[little osprey]

Well I bought 2x8 gb 3200 corsair vengeance rgb pro from Best Buy. Did curbside pickup, took bag, went home finally opened the bag and saw they gave me 2x16 gb instead

[thorny tusk]

Now value

[nocturne carbon]

im no genious but that only makes 32gb

[little osprey]

Paid $120 for 32gb 3200 ram

I had 2x8gb already installed

[nocturne carbon]

nvm wrong person

[thorny tusk]

Yoshi try for 16 bg

Gb

[nocturne carbon]

2x8gb?

[thorny tusk]

Yes

[little osprey]

I just shrugged and installed the additional 32gb ram

[thorny tusk]

It's the best for current gaming

[nocturne carbon]

"play has no limits"
my budget:

[thorny tusk]

Ea sports it's in the game

Your pc blank

[nocturne carbon]

my current gaming rig is Acer Nitro 5 (core i5, 1050ti, 1x8gb RAM)

[thorny tusk]

Is the ram dr4

Or 3

[nocturne carbon]

• old havit gaming mouse and laptop keybaord

that id

if i had to guess: ddr4

[little osprey]

Eyyy I used to use a havit

Had 12 side keus

[nocturne carbon]

no but this is an old havtit mouse

[little osprey]

*keys

[nocturne carbon]

literally got it from dollarama

mines has 2 side keys

[thorny tusk]

Because if you could find the same 8 gb ram you could save some

[nocturne carbon]

yea, that would be nice

[stuck sonnet]

Recommendations to buy windows 10 keys?. 3rd party legit those exist?

[little osprey]

Ebay

Make sure it's email delivery

[grim delta]

am i allowed to livestream myself building for the first the time

i don't want to mess up

[sinful hornet]

could just do it on twitch or smth then link it

[grim delta]

okay. thanks

[lyric thistle]

you could do a Discord call with a techie role

[grim delta]

that sounds better

[lyric thistle]

now who techie to call with

@foggy hazel are you available 😳

[grim delta]

na i plan to do it this weekend. just wanted to see if I was allowed to

[lyric thistle]

ah ok

probably do it via voice chat I think

[grim delta]

yeah that's what i planned to do

i just wanted to make sure it wasn't bannable or anything

[lyric thistle]

ok^^

you should be good

[grim delta]

thaks

thanks

[acoustic radish]

What mother board can you recommend for a ryzen 3 3100?

[karmic bobcat]

Depends on the RAM you plan to pair it with and if you wish to OC your 3100

[true copper]

Is a ryzen 9 3900xt and rtx zotac gaming 3080 with 32gb of ddr4 ram good?

Just trying to put together a good pc

[acoustic radish]

This is my first build and I am getting 16gb of ram at 3200mhz