#building-and-recc-chat

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vague maple
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then that's why

zenith osprey
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oh?

grim tide
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@little osprey 900?

vague maple
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if you're saying that your uhd graphics are the primary gpu in a game

grim tide
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thats the max or my acc go gg

vague maple
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that's because the video output is connected to the uhd graphics

little osprey
zenith osprey
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But i cant connect it to the GPU there is no where to plug it into

vague maple
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i have no clue how you do not have a video output to connect to your gpu

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that makes no sense, every gpu has a video output

little osprey
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what graphics card do u have chunk

zenith osprey
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I have no clue either ive never seen this before

vestal hare
vague maple
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he has a 2070 super

grim tide
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5600xt

zenith osprey
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ASUS 2070 super O8GB

signal gate
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I love phanteks cases

little osprey
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he has a 2070 super
@vague maple i feel like he has a vga monitor and a 2070 super only has hdmi and display ports iirc

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i guess that's what he means ?

zenith osprey
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I have a DVI-D, display, and HDMI plugged in

signal gate
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I got the p400a digital

zenith osprey
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the DVI-D never reads

vague maple
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ok can you take out your 2070 super from the build and inspect if it has any video output slots

little osprey
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I have a DVI-D, display, and HDMI plugged in
@zenith osprey u have two displays plugged in ?

zenith osprey
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yes i do

little osprey
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you only need HDMI going to the card

vague maple
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or displayport for high hertz

little osprey
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^

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unless u got two monitors

zenith osprey
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So am I just not seeing the ports?

little osprey
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u dont need to plug in two video outputs

zenith osprey
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I only see ports on the motherboard for display

vague maple
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So am I just not seeing the ports?
@zenith osprey send me a picture of your io via dm

little osprey
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I only see ports on the motherboard for display
@zenith osprey check the graphics card

vital jacinth
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Can somebody make me a gaming pc list? If so, then budget 1300$ US i want RGB and The stuff i want is a Ryzen 5 5600x. Thank you.

vague maple
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first send me a picture of your io

zenith osprey
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okay one sec @little osprey @vague maple

vague maple
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ok

vital jacinth
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oh and 1440p

vague maple
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what's possible @little osprey is that the io is blocking the video outputs from view

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like there are video outputs inside the card, you just can't see them on the IO for some reason, there's just a sheet of metal where there should be a video output option

still roostBOT
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chunkdog#2689 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

little osprey
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chill with it

zenith osprey
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There are covers over the ports for christs sake

vague maple
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you are retarde*?

zenith osprey
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how could i be so stupid

vague maple
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lmao yeah thats what i was thinking

zenith osprey
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they are bolted down tho

little osprey
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lmao yea that prevents debris from getting into the ports during shipping

vague maple
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i was thinking you havent pulled off the tabs

zenith osprey
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omg

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i am so stupen boy

little osprey
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its not bolted just pull it out

vague maple
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you have to pull off the tabs from inside the case chunk

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i think

zenith osprey
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sorry to waste your time fellas

vague maple
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np

little osprey
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you have to pull off the tabs from inside the case chunk
@vague maple ur talking about pcie covers ?

zenith osprey
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thank you tho

vague maple
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so no ones getting the steam game? lmao

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np

vestal hare
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guys should I get the Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 700 W 80+ Gold or the Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 650 W 80+ Gold

zenith osprey
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Add me on steam for game

vague maple
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okie

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will do

zenith osprey
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anteatereatingant is my name

little osprey
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guys should I get the Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 700 W 80+ Gold or the Antec Earthwatts Gold Pro 650 W 80+ Gold
@vestal hare whichevers cheaper and fits ur budget

vague maple
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ok

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ill add that

vestal hare
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k the 700 watt is actually cheaper so imma get that

zenith osprey
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im going to get this working and then ill reward πŸ™‚ thanks again

plush mist
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whats a good ryzen cpu thats for like 500 dollar budget

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need some reccomendations

little osprey
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500 on a cpu ?

vague maple
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ok np chunk

little osprey
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or 500 for the whole build

vague maple
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there are multiple people with that username @zenith osprey

plush mist
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nonono

deep wren
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Are 3070s easier to get than 3080s?

plush mist
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500 in total

vague maple
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do you have a pfp, are from germany or is named jem margen?

vestal hare
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is the MS30 1 TB M.2 alright? or should i stick with the crucial p1

vague maple
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anyone of those

plush mist
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cpu probably around 100-150 dollars?

little osprey
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500 in total
@plush mist if u have a 500 usd budget intel is better, 10100 + H410 will do u well

vague maple
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is the MS30 1 TB M.2 alright? or should i stick with the crucial p1
@vestal hare for 1 tb, you should get a mp34

plush mist
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@plush mist if u have a 500 usd budget intel is better, 10100 + H410 will do u well
@little osprey i3?

vague maple
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dont get a i3

plush mist
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or i5

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ok

vague maple
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the 2600 is great for 500 dollar builds

little osprey
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que pasaaa

vestal hare
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@vestal hare for 1 tb, you should get a mp34
@vague maple has to be under 90 bucks

little osprey
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10100f with 2666 destroys 2600

vague maple
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its 107 bucks

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and has great speeds

vestal hare
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i know

vague maple
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ok then under 90

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crucial p1 is your best option

vestal hare
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k

vague maple
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10100f with 2666 destroys 2600
@little osprey not really

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2600 with 3200 destroys 10100f with 2666

little osprey
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lemme see a 500 usd build with 2600 and 3200 with a reasonable gpu :P

vague maple
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plus 10100f is a 4 core cpu isnt it?

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ill try

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at 500 you should really get some used parts though

pine kayak
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a rtx 3070 in a 1200$ build does it fit ?

plush mist
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the 2600 is great for 500 dollar builds
@vague maple wait the r5 2600?

vague maple
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i'm gonna have to build with it

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see if i can fit it in a 500 dollar budget

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a rtx 3070 in a 1200$ build does it fit ?
@pine kayak easily

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i've made a viable build list with a 3070 for 1000

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and a 1300 build list with a 3080

plush mist
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soo... r5 2600?

pine kayak
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1300$ with what gpu ?

edgy wagon
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Will the 6800 work for streaming?

pine kayak
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doesnt it bottleneck

vague maple
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3080 and no

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it doesnt bottleneck

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pretty sure i have the 5600x in there

pine kayak
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what cpu

vague maple
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5600x

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i just said it

pine kayak
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bruh

little osprey
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i leave and come back tot his

grim tide
edgy wagon
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@gaunt zinc Please ban that

still roostBOT
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α²Όα²Όα²Όα²Όα²Όα²Ό#6885 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

stark bramble
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someone ban this person

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holy

pine kayak
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@celest horizon

stark bramble
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SOMEONE BAN HIM

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WTF

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MODS

pine kayak
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no life

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get a life dude

wheat coral
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ah yes

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bots

vestal hare
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wtf

signal gate
still roostBOT
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Communist#9362 has been warned

Reason: Mass mention

stark bramble
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oops

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WHERE

buoyant aurora
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.
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.
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.Pushing it up

stark bramble
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ARE

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THE

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MODS

vestal hare
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ew real life nudity

lime forge
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banned

grim tide
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gg

signal gate
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Pog

stark bramble
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thank you lmao

lime forge
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sorry about that

grim tide
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tnx

pine kayak
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thanks

grim tide
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pogU

wheat coral
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banned
@lime forge thanks zach

vestal hare
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thx

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My eyes must be bleached

wheat coral
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same

torpid notch
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same

lime forge
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same

pine kayak
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πŸ˜…

sand falcon
little osprey
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nah ive already seen that vid

stark bramble
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lmao

vestal hare
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thank you bob

little osprey
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yes

stark bramble
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yes

lime forge
pine kayak
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yes

balmy patio
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wth happened

lime forge
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nothing

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dont worry about it

edgy wagon
lime forge
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lets talk about ryzen 5000

vestal hare
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wth happened
@balmy patio nothing

pine kayak
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XD

little osprey
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lets talk about ryzen 5000
@lime forge yay zen 3 !

balmy patio
edgy wagon
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Zen is cool

balmy patio
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lets talk about meatskink

grim tide
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lmao

vestal hare
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yum

grim tide
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medium rare?

balmy patio
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the best thermal solution

signal gate
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Yes

grim tide
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does macro center help with build pc?

pine kayak
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yes it will

grim tide
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ok

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good

pine kayak
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get a new zen 3

little osprey
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huh they didnt help me

grim tide
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oh

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i have zero idea on how to build a PC

vestal hare
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we can help

grim tide
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:))

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jeez

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5k

vestal hare
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thicc proccessor

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yeah they were right

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def

little osprey
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what

vestal hare
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can i have the threadripper btw?

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since, its bad

little osprey
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@little osprey r u a troll ;-;

vestal hare
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yes please

little osprey
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@vague maple good luck finding a 2600 in stock

vestal hare
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69th avenue

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area code 420

vague maple
buoyant aurora
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@little osprey At the very first glance I thought your pfp was Kim jong Un

vague maple
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this was the closest i could get

little osprey
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what u found a 2600 ??

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oh its 150.

vague maple
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yeah smh

little osprey
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and almost 100 usd over budget

vague maple
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yeah

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couldnt go lower

buoyant aurora
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5600 gonna be new best bang for buck

little osprey
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ran both on 3200 mhz btw

vague maple
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give me a tldr please

vestal hare
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i have zero idea on how to build a PC
@grim tide do you need a part list?

little osprey
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10100 destroys :)

grim tide
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maybe

vague maple
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ok

vestal hare
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calcy what's the budget

pine kayak
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im going to wait for the none x version of ryzen 5600x

little osprey
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thats gonna be like 20 usd cheaper

vital warren
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iirc it was supposed to be 220

grim tide
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@grim tide do you need a part list?
@vestal hare pc list between 650-750

buoyant aurora
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yeah, the 5600 is gonna be a way better deal than 5600x

vestal hare
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k

buoyant aurora
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5600 is $220

pine kayak
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yeah

little osprey
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oh sheesh fr

plush mist
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is r3 3100 a decent processor?

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i dont think it is right

pine kayak
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its going to be perfect to go with my 3070

plush mist
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i feel like theres better

little osprey
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@vestal hare make @grim tide a list even though i compiled him one 3 times already, lets see those building skills !

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is r3 3100 a decent processor?
@plush mist 10400f > 3100

buoyant aurora
plush mist
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anyone know a good ryzen processor around 100 dollars

edgy wagon
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should I get a 5600 3070 or 5900 and a 3080

buoyant aurora
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anyone know a good ryzen processor around 100 dollars
@plush mist bruh

plush mist
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what

buoyant aurora
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should I get a 5600 3070 or 5900 and a 3080
@edgy wagon Just don't get a 30 series card lol

little osprey
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should I get a 5600 3070 or 5900 and a 3080
@edgy wagon 5600x with 3080. i doubt u need 5900

grim tide
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@vestal hare make @grim tide a list even though i compiled him one 3 times already, lets see those building skills !
@little osprey ik but im not satisfied. bot by the price but i game less so not sure if i need a good gpu

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not*

vague maple
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dude @little osprey

buoyant aurora
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Get a 5800X and 6800 @edgy wagon

vague maple
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i put in the i3-10100

vital warren
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ryzen 3 3100 is like 118 @plush mist

vague maple
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and cannot find a single budget board that supports 3200 mhz

edgy wagon
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@buoyant aurora I am streaming regularly so amd wont work as well

plush mist
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yea...

vague maple
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3100 is 118 dollarS?

buoyant aurora
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I mean... sure

plush mist
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got anything better for around 100?

little osprey
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and cannot find a single budget board that supports 3200 mhz
@vague maple yeee ur right kekw but u gotta stay under budget here so intels the way to go anyways

buoyant aurora
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@edgy wagon What are you playing?

little osprey
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god dude build chat is going so fast holy jesus

buoyant aurora
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(May have thouht I was in general chat the whole time)

edgy wagon
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apex, cs, valorant, overwatch, lol, warframe, wow, and some random smaller titles like risk of rain 2, terraria, and some destiny 2

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although I am aiming for 240 fps

buoyant aurora
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apex, cs, valorant, overwatch, lol, warframe, wow, and some random smaller titles like risk of rain 2, terraria, and some destiny 2
@edgy wagon 3070 is more than you need then

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so 5900x and 3070 is better

vestal hare
edgy wagon
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ryzen 5 3400g then get a gpu later

vital warren
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don't buy a new rx 580

raw mist
vestal hare
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750 dollar budget

vital warren
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used if anything

grim tide
little osprey
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yea im just saying if u go intel u could orientate the budget to a better gpu

vestal hare
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@vague maple its a 750 budget

little osprey
raw mist
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@raw mist case and psu is all that i would change
@little osprey What psu would u reccomend?

little osprey
vestal hare
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k

edgy wagon
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@vague maple you could get a cpu with an apu then buy a decent gpu later

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but for 750

plush mist
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yo

vital warren
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750 i'd just do r3 3100 + whatever gpu idk

plush mist
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100 dollar cpu?

grim tide
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@grim tide this looks like an e man build kek
@little osprey oh ok

little osprey
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pDpPTC someone gave me this for little gaming / school pc, is it good?
@grim tide first of all, thats a poopy boot drive as it has no dram, not to mention the q300L is a garbo case, and that psu a ticking time bomb

plush mist
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sry im still asking but

grim tide
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oh

vital warren
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all i can think of for amd around 100 is r3 3100

little osprey
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how about we all stop sharing parts lists and just share the budget, use, wifi or not, and country :P

plush mist
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ok cool

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ty

edgy wagon
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@buoyant aurora To confirm 3070 with a 5900 is better for streaming than a 5600 and a 3080

little osprey
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do u need a 5900 ?

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@edgy wagon

edgy wagon
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for streaming and video editing

little osprey
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im also here to help people :P

raw mist
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how about we all stop sharing parts lists and just share the budget, use, wifi or not, and country :P
@little osprey What psu for a r5 3600, 5600xt. budget around 100 CAD or 75 USD.

little osprey
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shh rn </3

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@little osprey What psu for a r5 3600, 5600xt. budget around 100 CAD or 75 USD.
@raw mist antec earthwatt or neoEco is good, also gx2 is alright but might be too low of a wattage

idle hawk
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for anyone saying 1000w is overkill for the 3080

little osprey
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nooo BR will explode !!

idle hawk
little osprey
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joker ur joking right..

idle hawk
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thats a 9900k clocked at 4.9ghz and a rtx 3080 not even overclocked

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yea aida64

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theyre power hungry

vital warren
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guys listen to joker and make sure you get 1200w for dell optiplex

little osprey
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me too

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just wanting to confirm the use

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before i say anything..

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mainly gaming

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ur going a terrible route for gaming my friend

vital warren
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never put the powerful cpu before gpu for gaming

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gpu comes first

little osprey
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K42TJf best possible performance
@vague maple i second but if next gen isn't possible to get then i have one that also works for around same price point

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πŸ˜”

idle hawk
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lol this is kinda funny cause without a powerful enough psu you cant run anything without it crashing

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but hey as mxmo says im joking right

little osprey
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1000w is overkill for any average consumer build @idle hawk

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never built a pc before so i just need some help on the parts

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i honestly would like to call a mod to ban joker

idle hawk
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mxmo whats ur psu

little osprey
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Amp 550

idle hawk
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and ur gpu

little osprey
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1660S

raw mist
idle hawk
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have you seen seen that some tech reviewers having issues with the 3080s and 3090s

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with lower end psu

little osprey
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is this enough for a r5 3600 and a 5600xt???
@raw mist personally i would go with an antec unit around 650-700, soemthing like neoEco or Earthwatt, if ur really low on budget just go for BR series

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with lower end psu
@idle hawk cus they are lower end psus.

raw mist
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Ok thanks!

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@little osprey

idle hawk
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youre saying that its overkill maybe overkill for YOU cause you have a lower end card that doesnt need a high end psu

little osprey
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youre saying that its overkill maybe overkill for YOU cause you have a lower end card that doesnt need a high end psu
@idle hawk 1000W is overkill for any 30 series and average consumer builds :P

vital warren
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meanwhile my brother is running a 3080 on 650 perfectly fine

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..

plush mist
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that being said, can you wiggle the budget up to 550?
@vague maple im trying to keep it under 520

idle hawk
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do we know how many watts the new amd chips are gonna produce

plush mist
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trying to build one for someone

quasi snow
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We do

little osprey
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do we know how many watts the new amd chips are gonna produce
@idle hawk you mean the tdp ? yea we know that

plush mist
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im goin with 1650super

little osprey
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1650s is great budget entry level card

plush mist
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yep

idle hawk
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tdp and normal use are completely different the 9900k is supposed to be 90w

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here i am with almost 200w

plush mist
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around 170

quasi snow
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The average consumer isn't overclocking their 9900k to almost 5 ghz

little osprey
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The average consumer isn't overclocking their 9900k to almost 5 ghz
@quasi snow 1up

idle hawk
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yea theyre going for a 10700k or 10500k thats pushing the relatively same clocks as the 9900k

plush mist
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i would take a 5500xt over a 1650s
@vague maple is it cheaper

quasi snow
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wdym 1up

plush mist
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the 5500xt

idle hawk
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and amd chips aswell

little osprey
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wdym 1up
@quasi snow it means i second that statement

idle hawk
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i cant speak for amd but i know theyre power hungry aswell

plush mist
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ok, will check it out

little osprey
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u goin amd ?

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sigh

narrow rose
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5.0 is a pretty average oc for a 8700k/9700k/10700k and I would say it is normal for the average user or at least should be

idle hawk
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thank you

little osprey
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not at this budget

idle hawk
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@narrow rose thank you

plush mist
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@vague maple the 5500xt is actually 10-20 dollars more expensive

stoic island
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Whew
Finally finished GN 5950x review

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It's looking real nice

narrow rose
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you dont "have" to buy a copy of windows it doesnt come with one.

raw mist
idle hawk
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like i dont understand you building a gaming pc why settle for below average when you want the best isnt that why ppl upgrade or build new cause they want better

little osprey
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iirc antec uses seasonic as oem so i'd trust it

plush mist
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anyone else got a gpu reccomendation? around 150-180 dollars

idle hawk
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and sir mxmo with 1660s thinks gpus are not power hungry

little osprey
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yea thats why i got an amp 550w

atomic barn
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rate my rig

idle hawk
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facepalm

little osprey
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yea thats why i got an amp 550w
@little osprey which i heavily regret btw

stoic island
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?

idle hawk
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so then why fight me knowing u need to upgrade yourself

stoic island
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Why regret good psu

narrow rose
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@plush mist maybe try to stretch it to $200 for a 1660super

little osprey
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no not the quality of the psu the wattage @stoic island

stoic island
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Lel

little osprey
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amp is gud :P

stoic island
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Still can do fine as long as you're not doing high end CPU+3090 or smth

plush mist
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@plush mist maybe try to stretch it to $200 for a 1660super
@narrow rose cant rlly do that, im on a tight budget

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500

little osprey
stoic island
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Anyways

little osprey
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Still can do fine as long as you're not doing high end CPU+3090 or smth
@stoic island i was planning on 5600 and 6800 or 3070 so thats why kek

stoic island
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@atomic barn you looking for advice?

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Yea it's gonna be fine

atomic barn
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so i should get cl16 instead

stoic island
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Because that list is a cluster hell from a glance

little osprey
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Yes

atomic barn
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aight ill fix that

little osprey
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Any news on restocking of the 5900x or is it going to be just like the nvidia gpus

narrow rose
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@plush mist a 1650Super then

little osprey
plush mist
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@plush mist a 1650Super then
@narrow rose yea thats what im kinda goin for now

stoic island
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@atomic barn What's the total budget and what's the usage?

atomic barn
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$1500-$1600

narrow rose
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yeah its a little better than a 5500xt and the same price

stoic island
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uhh

plush mist
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yeaa

stoic island
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that ain't a 1500-1600$ list

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you know that right

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it's more 1700$

atomic barn
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oof

stoic island
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Vision is like 100$ over msrp

atomic barn
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well i already have the case

stoic island
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you gotta be kidding me

plush mist
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good case around 40-60 dollars?

stoic island
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the one part

plush mist
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reccs?

stoic island
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at least you haven't bought the ram

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right?

atomic barn
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nah

narrow rose
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@plush mist I would keep my eye out for a good black friday sale on a 1660super just in case you catch a deal

stoic island
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Can you return the case or no

atomic barn
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uhhh

plush mist
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oh ok

atomic barn
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are u against it cuz of the airflow

stoic island
#

Yes

plush mist
#

angry mr111 peepoSHAKE

stoic island
#

everything about it tbh

atomic barn
#

do u think no matter the amount of fans it will choke the 3080

plush mist
#

me

stoic island
#

why do you want a 100$ case without rgb without airflow

#

like

#

@atomic barn that's the whole reason we hate it smh

plush mist
#

oh it was that 5500xt is actualyl a little more expensive

stoic island
#

no matter how many fans you add

plush mist
#

like 10-20 dollars

#

yea

stoic island
#

fans can't pull air out of nowhere

atomic barn
#

i got it when i wasn't so acknowledged in pcs

stoic island
#

sucking on the metal panel

#

anyways

narrow rose
stoic island
#

point is, look at a Coolermaster TD500 mesh at 100$

#

3 included argb fans

#

great airflow

little osprey
#

Or the p400a

stoic island
#

no >:(

little osprey
#

Why

stoic island
#

cooler support

plush mist
stoic island
#

no 360mm top rad

plush mist
#

ok

stoic island
#

no big air coolers

#

that's a yikes from me

plush mist
#

i'll see td500

#

wait thats expensive

#

yea

#

just found out LOL

stoic island
#

@plush mist MX330-g air

#

55$ 3 included fans

plush mist
#

woahh, thx

stoic island
#

in stock on b&h last I checked

#

@atomic barn want me to edit off your list or just give you a better list?

idle hawk
narrow rose
idle hawk
#

my system as of right now

atomic barn
#

you can edit off the list if u want but dont change the fans and cables

stoic island
#

7$ shippin on wegg, no shipping on b&h I think

#

bruh why

#

I'd leave the cables

#

but why the fan

plush mist
#

@stoic island uh, i think it only comes with 1 in the rear

stoic island
#

@plush mist MX330-g air

plush mist
#

OH

atomic barn
#

cuz i need exhaust fans

stoic island
#

2 front 1 rear

plush mist
#

my bad

stoic island
#

those don't even look good smh

narrow rose
#

yeah its good

#

Front: 2 x 120mm LED Fan (Pre-installed)

Top: 2 x 120mm fan

Rear: 1 x 120mm LED Fan (Pre-installed)

stoic island
#

and you don't really

little osprey
#

@vague maple can your build edit and render videos too?

plush mist
#

wow that looks nice

atomic barn
#

just lmk when u change my list and give the reasons why you changed it

plush mist
#

thx mr111

stoic island
#

kk

#

@atomic barn can you wait for 5600x stock or no

atomic barn
#

yeah

little osprey
idle hawk
#

why what

little osprey
#

Get cl 16

atomic barn
#

i wont have enough money for like a solid year

stoic island
#

kk

little osprey
#

Cl 19 is ass

stoic island
#

Then this is by no means a final list

idle hawk
#

oh

stoic island
#

Come back again like a week before buying

narrow rose
#

@little osprey depends on the speed

idle hawk
#

in time ill change it

stoic island
#

I'll still edit it

atomic barn
#

bet

idle hawk
#

its 3600mhz

ebon wing
#

Cl 19 is ass
@little osprey
ram can be OCed too

little osprey
#

Ig

ebon wing
#

3600 mhz cl14 is fully durable

edgy wagon
#

will the 5600 have enough headroom for streaming

ebon wing
#

should be easy on any samsung B die

#

@edgy wagon let the nvidia GPU do its magic

plush mist
ebon wing
#

NVENC

edgy wagon
#

tru

#

although I dont have a nvidia gpu rn

stoic island
#

you doing a white theme or smth @atomic barn ?

ebon wing
#

CPU Encoding will drop performance

edgy wagon
#

debating between a 2070 now or a 3070 later

plush mist
#

oh shoot i forgot, i need to do white theme

ebon wing
#

3070 later

atomic barn
#

yeah

plush mist
#

YIKES

vestal hare
#

3070

atomic barn
#

white/black

#

rgb will be light blue

ebon wing
#

3070 will give u 2080ti like performance

stoic island
#

kk

ebon wing
#

just buy the 500 dollars card

#

500-550 dollars

#

thas it

idle hawk
#

lolol

#

i thought i was the joker

grim tide
#

someone give me a good editing, gaming/school pc under 600-700

ebon wing
#

someone probably has one around

little osprey
#

Anyone

ebon wing
#

check out PCMR builds @grim tide

#

there is a 500 dollar build

stoic island
#

the hell is

#

what

ebon wing
#

I'll tweak somethings

stoic island
#

oh well

little osprey
#

I’m courious what’s the beat pre built website

foggy hazel
#

i leave you to handle/have "fun" with that one @stoic island

grim tide
#

not working @ebon wing

stoic island
plush mist
#

does diy pc have good cases

stoic island
#

@foggy hazel I'm gonna leave the "fun" by the side of the road :D

plush mist
#

like build quality wise

stoic island
#

And go straight to making a 700$ list for the guy

atomic barn
#

i like it

edgy wagon
#

5600, 5800, or 5900 for streaming and video editing

atomic barn
#

sadly i cant change the case but i like the changes

stoic island
#

why

#

I'd return the case

atomic barn
#

kinda late

stoic island
#

How long ago did you buy it

atomic barn
#

i got it about a year ago

sharp pelican
#

Just get a sleeper case

stoic island
#

Sell it

sharp pelican
#

Super old case

atomic barn
#

is there any good cheap white rgb ram

stoic island
#

cheap and rgb don't go together, but ballistix does have a kit of white rgb ram

little osprey
#

Crucial

stoic island
atomic barn
#

oloy makes cheap and rgb ram

stoic island
#

and incompatible

#

and also

little osprey
atomic barn
#

doesn't mean it looks good

stoic island
#

Oloy doesn't use good dies

#

that's why they don't have 3600c16 ram >:D

atomic barn
#

lol

plush mist
atomic barn
#

ram is ram

plush mist
#

good one?

stoic island
#

never looked into it or checked

#

but Ballstix uses some real nice micron e die

ebon wing
sharp pelican
#

?

ebon wing
#

uhhh 500 dollar build

stoic island
#

I should've bought it myself

atomic barn
#

you don't like the liquid cooler?

stoic island
#

expensive

#

and never NZXT

#

screw NZXT

plush mist
#

yes

stoic island
#

overpriced

plush mist
#

^

stoic island
#

If you were to get an AIO, get an Arctic Freezer ii

ebon wing
#

5600, 5800, or 5900 for streaming and video editing
@edgy wagon
beyond 5900x it isnt worth it

atomic barn
#

i plan on doing overclocking and idk if the stock cooler would be good for that

stoic island
#

Arctic freezer ii

#

best performing AIO GN has tested

atomic barn
#

is it visually appealing

stoic island
#

freezer ii 280mm beats x63 360mm last I checked

ebon wing
#

imo I'll get a aio that I personally like

stoic island
#

I wouldn't if I'm paying more for less performance

ebon wing
#

temperature differnce would 1-5 degrees

stoic island
#

and afterall, how long do you actually stare at your PC for

#

1-5 degrees really matter for OCing

ebon wing
#

but arctic liquid freezer is cheap

#

best performer

#

I personally like aesthetics also

stoic island
#

It's an AIO

ebon wing
#

but that's a personal thing nothing else

plush mist
#

is montech a trustworthy brand

#

i mean

stoic island
#

I think Kenzie got one

plush mist
#

like are their cases good

stoic island
#

don't remember

plush mist
#

oh ok

stoic island
#

I don't like the looks of em

little osprey
ebon wing
#

It's an AIO
@stoic island
I totally agree with you but Its just me that i like balancing performance and aesthetics

stoic island
#

You see, there's a piece of the equation missing

#

Price

ebon wing
#

yeah ik

#

aesthetics comes at a price

stoic island
#

and that price can be the difference between getting you a 3070 and a 3080 >:(

ebon wing
#

lol

#

yeah just like rog 3070 strix

#

in such a weird place

#

600 dollars

stoic island
#

anyways

#

Performance is king

#

looks are secondary

sharp tundra
#

Wrong

ebon wing
#

its personal preference @stoic island

sharp tundra
#

Looks are king

wintry gust
#

hrmmm...... I was trying to hold out for one of these new zen 3 processors but they are gone like gone gone.. and I lost my sale for the processor I was going to buy.. I am not sure what to do anymore

little osprey
vital warren
#

I prefer to have a well performing computer

ebon wing
#

u cant argue on that either u @sharp tundra

vital warren
#

over something to look at

stoic island
#

I dunno, one thing is quantifiable, the other isn't

#

I think that's pretty clear

#

Good nuff

sharp tundra
#

Rgb makes your system faster

#

Proven fact

little osprey
stoic island
#

gimme some testing then >:D

little osprey
#

What’s that

#

wait no thats cad nvm

stoic island
#

lol

ebon wing
#

calm ur tits gentlemen

stoic island
#

@little osprey you could save money with cheaper mobo tho

#

but eh

#

oh well

little osprey
#

There is no cheaper

stoic island
#

motherboard? yes there is..?

little osprey
#

what about Phantom g4 ?

upbeat lodge
#

Do you guys think the 3070 will be back in stock by ChristmasοΏΌ

#

?

sharp tundra
#

There is plenty of cheap mobos

little osprey
#

Now with ryzen 5 5600 says it incompatible

vital warren
#

around that time stock should be steadier

little osprey
#

no it will be compatible

sinful hornet
#

thats like the cheapest decent one tho

stoic island
#

PCPP is being dumb with "incompatible"

little osprey
#

^

stoic island
#

ignore it for now

upbeat lodge
#

Okay

little osprey
#

I meant atx

vital warren
#

and the b550m pro4 is like 90rn as well

upbeat lodge
#

Good to know

little osprey
#

Pro 4 has garbo vrms

wintry gust
#

@foggy hazel Heya, umm What do I do the processors you told me to wait for reviews for came out and their all sold out everywhere and the processor I was going to get is no longer on sale on new egg or anywhere 😦 Help! 😦

sinful hornet
#

also why is that ram so expensive

#

what

stoic island
#

not garbo

upbeat lodge
#

I will try to get one around ChristmasοΏΌ

stoic island
#

it's usable

little osprey
#

not adequate ^

#

:P

stoic island
#

Wdym

#

for a 5600x

upbeat lodge
#

The 3070

little osprey
#

Atx is better for expanding

#

yea for a 5600x its alright just not something i would go for

vital warren
#

i'm starting to like matx more

#

matx is king

little osprey
#

barely any diff between matx and atx, not like ur gonna sli anyways

#

not worth the price imo

sharp tundra
#

Alot of mobos can run cpus out of their range, you just won't have access to all the features

stoic island
#

wdym

sinful hornet
#

as long as you have an matx case, it doesnt look bad

stoic island
#

it'll take 100a just fine

#

@sharp tundra that's not what we're talking about..?

#

or wait

#

what are you talking about

foggy hazel
#

@wintry gust long story short, you wait

sharp tundra
#

He was talking about his 5k series not being compatible with other mobos right?

stoic island
#

wat

wintry gust
#

....................... ****

stoic island
#

that's even more confusing now

#

what are you trying to say..?

idle hawk
#

anyone has any good ideas on a big case lol

sharp tundra
#

.....

little osprey
#

Lian li pc011

wintry gust
#

its worse than ps5 pre-orders lol

vital warren
#

o11 case for rich people

stoic island
#

@little osprey @vital warren o11 is surprisingly small

sharp tundra
#

Wait

sinful hornet
#

thermaltake tower 900 lmao

stoic island
#

it doesn't even support a d15 for god's sake

idle hawk
#

a case that can comfortably fit a 360mm rad and a 3080

foggy hazel
#

@wintry gust give it a bit, its not been 10 hours since the chips launched :)

vital warren
#

it doesn't?

#

rip

stoic island
#

@idle hawk Coolermaster TD500 mesh

sharp tundra
#

Is he talking about a radeon?

vital warren
#

and ya gotta spend a kidney worth of fans

stoic island
#

@vital warren 155mm cooler clearance

vital warren
#

that blows

stoic island
#

d15 is 165, drp4 is 162

little osprey
#

nice one

stoic island
wintry gust
#

ya but I need this pc by december so.. 😦 I'm hoping it will clear up soon enough

stoic island
#

because I thought you were talking to me and mxmo about vrms

idle hawk
#

oh hell yea

sharp tundra
#

No

stoic island
#

it's just confusing

#

no matter what way I look at it

idle hawk
#

thanks @stoic island

stoic island
#

yw

idle hawk
#

thatll work perfectly

#

big chungus(3080) took most of my space in the front

little osprey
sharp tundra
#

I thought dude was wanting to get a ryzen 5000 series, and so I was telling him that motherboards designed for 3000 series, will still be able to run 5000 series, you just won't have all the features

stoic island
#

...

idle hawk
#

umm

stoic island
#

That's not how it works..?

idle hawk
#

its the reverse

sharp tundra
#

?

idle hawk
#

the amd cards have a bias towards amd chips

little osprey
stoic island
#

@idle hawk they're talking Ryzen 3000 CPU

#

not RTX 3000

idle hawk
#

oooohhh

#

ok

#

sorry

stoic island
#

and no Nomad

#

that's not how it works

sharp tundra
#

Oh...

little osprey
stoic island
#

X570 and B550 are the only chipsets made for 3rd gen, and they're what's for 5000 series.

idle hawk
#

massive im not in canada

stoic island
#

and the feature reducing thing

little osprey
#

Just look

sharp tundra
#

Oh, well then there is plenty of those mobos, whats the problem with not being able to find one?

stoic island
#

The problem is PCPP being dumb

#

and telling you "all of these are incompatible"

sinful hornet
#

if dis mans posts that link one more time

stoic island
#

And the slight issue of a certain bios update needed

#

lol ikr

idle hawk
#

amd mobo has a compatibility for at least 3 to 4 gens

stoic island
#

kinda

idle hawk
#

if im not mistaken

stoic island
#

not really

#

but it's all wack

idle hawk
#

like you said bios updates

foggy hazel
#

@idle hawk depends on specific models and how you define it

sharp tundra
#

Oh okay

#

I think we were all a little confused

idle hawk
#

@foggy hazel agreed

stoic island
#

but anyways

sharp tundra
#

Yeah

#

Moving on

vestal hare
#

@vague maple I made a parts list for the vista gaming challenge machine CPU: Intel-Core-2-Quad-Q6600 PSU: Antec NeoEco Gold 700 Watt GPU: GTX 980 Ti RAM: 4x2GB DDR2 Kit MOBO: G33M02

idle hawk
#

amd is confusing lolol

little osprey
#

980 ti overkill for vista

vestal hare
#

i know

sharp tundra
#

Really is

stoic island
#

@little osprey B550m pro4 uses same VRMs as B450m pro4, which can handle 100a with passive cooling (Which would be 3900x stock/3700x OC), so I'd say it's just fine.

vestal hare
#

that's the point

little osprey
#

Even gt740 is overkill

idle hawk
#

wait question

stoic island
#

@idle hawk replace "amd" with "life"

#

everything is confusing

#

you just need to look deeper

foggy hazel
#

replace "life" with "users" and i would agree

idle hawk
#

didnt amd users almost started riot cause their new boards almost didnt have compatibly to older chips

sharp tundra
#

Well, AMD is life

#

So thats what we can expect right?

foggy hazel
#

if you ask reddit? yes

idle hawk
#

fair enough

stoic island
#

And AMD asks reddit for popular opinion so

#

from AMD's perspective, everyone was rioting

idle hawk
#

sounds bout right

edgy wagon
#

What date is the best estimate for 3070 stock?

little osprey
#

@little osprey B550m pro4 uses same VRMs as B450m pro4, which can handle 100a with passive cooling (Which would be 3900x stock/3700x OC), so I'd say it's just fine.
@stoic island oh huh i thought the B550m pro 4 used different vrms, welp the more u know.

sinful hornet
#

mid jan

#

maybe early

little osprey
#

i suspect Feb

stoic island
#

SM4337 high side SM4336 low side

idle hawk
#

arent they trying to stock up for black friday and the holiday season

stoic island
#

and 3 true phase

idle hawk
#

aka christmas

stoic island
#

and some weird doubling

#

dunno

#

no doubler

sinful hornet
#

i doubt there will be any sales on the 3000 gpus or the 5000 cpus on black friday

idle hawk
#

not sales but stock these cards are wayyyyy too new

stoic island
#

heh they probably would be...
just no stock

idle hawk
#

oh ok

sharp tundra
#

Is black Friday this friday?

sinful hornet
#

man, this was all so much simpler when i built my first pc 4 years ago..

#

way too much of a stock struggle now

idle hawk
#

yea thank you pandemic

sinful hornet
#

also, no its the 27th

#

almost said, no, its the pandemic cause i was reading as i typed

idle hawk
#

lololol

sharp tundra
#

Nvidia just wants to blame the pandemic, tbh I don't think there is anything stopping them from mass producing their cards except making excuses

stoic island
#

the issue is

#

this happens on every launch

#

just maybe amplified by pandemic supply issues

idle hawk
#

i mean technically most manufactures are shut down and their partner manufactures are at limited functionality atm

sharp tundra
#

Well Nvidia purposely released their 30 series too early so they could beat out the radeon market with their 6000 series

stoic island
#

Oh well

idle hawk
#

lets not mention most manufactures are overseas so even getting them here is a different story

sharp tundra
#

And it back fired in their face when they didn't have enough to supply the market

stoic island
#

weird stuff is weird

#

@sharp tundra did it backfire when they sold everything?

idle hawk
#

scalpers

stoic island
#

it more backfired on the consumers for the hype imo

idle hawk
#

damm scalpers

sinful hornet
#

most in store locations will let you reserve a back order from what i've seen

#

just saying

idle hawk
#

micro center

stoic island
#

EVGA does online back/pre-orders now

sinful hornet
#

canada computers

stoic island
#

MC is the only major one in US

#

and they're quite spread out

sinful hornet
#

yea, i wish there were microcenters in canada, but canada computers isnt bad

#

just went for the first time yesterday

#

first time ive ever actually been in a store specifically for pc components

idle hawk
#

i noticed for the xbox series x/s pre orders on target buyers were getting cancellation emails due to "errors in numbers" same was happening to the pre order of the 3000 series cards

stoic island
#

It's sad a lot of people live like 3hr away from one

sinful hornet
#

t'was fun

stoic island
#

(MC in US)

sharp tundra
#

No, it backfired when they didn't produce enough cards to send to their partners and then Nvidia dropped 2 new cards after releasing their 3080, not giving partners enough time to build their cards and get them out.

stoic island
#

hm?

idle hawk
#

again that was due to the pandemic

stoic island
#

what

sinful hornet
#

most people in canada who would be interested in building a pc, live at least a 1 hour drive from a major ish city, and almost every one has a canada computers in pretty sure

stoic island
#

oh well

#

that discussion is gonna go nowhere

idle hawk
#

with limit functions in the factories only so much can be produced

sharp tundra
#

Nvidia kinda screwed their partners over just so they could beat AMD in their release

idle hawk
#

@stoic island agreed

vital warren
#

the nearest mc to me is in boston

#

and I aint driving there

#

screw that

idle hawk
#

oof

#

nearest to me in is new jersey (2hrs)

sharp tundra
#

The closest MC to me is in Ohio

#

I live in Washington ☠

little osprey
#

I’m in Canada the nearest is like 10 hrs

small osprey
#

I live 30 mins away im lucky

sinful hornet
#

massiveazep1, canada computers is basically the same thing

sharp tundra
#

Wait i guess the one in cali might be closer to me

foggy hazel
#

@sharp tundra & @idle hawk you both seem to have some "fascinating" takes on how the silicon manufacturing world work. Wrong, but "fascinating"

sharp tundra
#

I mean, not really my take, I did a little research

#

And isn't always a marketing scheme to try and release a product before your competitor does?

foggy hazel
#

not really

#

its generally about production lead times

#

but, as i answered somewhere else earlier. The nvidia finance call later this month will tell us a lot more

sharp tundra
#

Yes, but if you're behind on production, why release something new?

stoic island
#

Naed, can you elaborate on that last bit?

foggy hazel
#

again, we dont know where the bottleneck is

#

@stoic island nvidia has their Quarterly report in a week or two

stoic island
#

Oh, and they will talk about stock in their quarterly report..?

foggy hazel
#

should be possible to get an idea of wth is happening from that

stoic island
#

I assume it'd just be sales and such

#

Alright

foggy hazel
#

the are traded on the exchange etc etc

idle hawk
#

Ok thank you for the information

#

I'm not always right I take advice just as I give it

sharp tundra
#

I'm 100% sure that if Nvidia waiting 1 more month to release their 30 series, they would have had WAY more cards to sell and give to their partners, but instead they decided they wanted to beat amd in the market, and now they have exploding cards not enough to had out.

#

Exaggerating that last part

foggy hazel
#

@sharp tundra no.

#

we are now 1 month later

#

how much more stock is there?

sharp tundra
#

I don't think you're getting my point

foggy hazel
#

something "else" is happening here

sharp tundra
#

There is none right now is my point,

#

But if they would've waited till, say today, to release 30 series, it wouldn't be as much of a crap show

foggy hazel
#

yes, but where is the bottleneck is the only question that actually matters

idle hawk
#

I was lucky to get a 3080

foggy hazel
#

@sharp tundra the difference of them launching "today" vs when they did is minutes in sales

#

thats it

sharp tundra
#

But still 30 days of manufacturing

#

That doesn't change

north wagon
#

I got my 3090

foggy hazel
#

that manufacturing has been happening Nomad

idle hawk
#

I respect you're information @foggy hazel but I did see a video on YouTube (ik not that reputable) it was showing how some stores were ordering thousands of cards but only received 100s

foggy hazel
sharp tundra
#

Smh

stoic island
#

Mhm

#

It's solid numbers

foggy hazel
#

thats the site they are refering to @idle hawk

idle hawk
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You're right we don't know why it's being bottle necked exactly but a key feature is manufacturing

stoic island
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But that's not a US retailer

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So for 'us', the situation can vary a lot

foggy hazel
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@sharp tundra keep this in mind, there are 2 components to making the card

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the card itself and the chip

sharp tundra
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Yep

foggy hazel
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the chip is what looks to be the bottleneck

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and yes, that is speculation from my end

idle hawk
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So you think the source is the silicone

foggy hazel
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yes

idle hawk
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That's there's not enough wafers to supply the 3000s series

little osprey
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I’m 2 hrs away from Canada computers

foggy hazel
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correct

idle hawk
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Or quality wafers

foggy hazel
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or that nvidia didnt order enough

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or a gazillion other possible reasons

idle hawk
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Even if that's true what about the partners

foggy hazel
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its imo NOT the AIB's

idle hawk
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Don't they individually but their own wafers from nvidia

sharp tundra
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I heard that reason cards were failing was because of that difference in a $12 chip and a $50 chip

foggy hazel
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nvidia allocated chips to them

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that one has been proven wrong Nomad

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that iirc originated on reddit and got picked up by youtubers

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let me just elaborate on the allocation a bit

idle hawk
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the iic were giving noise causing stability issues at higher clocks

little osprey
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Nvm the nearest is Barrie 1hr 11mins

foggy hazel
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nvidia can make or break a AIB by changing allocation. HardOCP did an article about that BS a number of years ago

idle hawk
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naed

foggy hazel
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aye?

idle hawk
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if thats true why did nvidia send out a update causing the cards to boost lower

dawn kindle
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hi

idle hawk
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im curious

foggy hazel
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because nvidia effed something up in their drivers

idle hawk
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but they brought down the overall boost clocks

foggy hazel
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they tried to "turn the dial to 11"

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turns out, that was a BAD idea

idle hawk
lean wyvern
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HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOO

foggy hazel
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so they had to reverse that

idle hawk
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interesting

foggy hazel
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so its a mix of MANY factors

idle hawk
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but

foggy hazel
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and most sites/youtubers only focused on 1 part of those many factors

idle hawk
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asus strix was able to handle higher clocks

foggy hazel
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which is why we are talking about it now

idle hawk
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and so is my aorus

sharp tundra
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Im not doubting you, and I'm not gonna claim to be the smartest pc guy ever, but I still think this lack of cards to be had would be somewhat prevented if they had just a little longer to focus on manufacturing solely and THEN, drop a big release.

foggy hazel
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aye, card variance because chip variance. Also known as silicon lottery @idle hawk

idle hawk
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thats fair

flat pendant
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yo anyone got any experience with the NZXt h1?

foggy hazel
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which again loops around to the "many factors" i mentioned earlier :)

idle hawk
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the tuff card can but the ventus couldnt and the gaming x

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can

foggy hazel
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aye

idle hawk
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yea thats true

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im sorry im circling

foggy hazel
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basically, its a effing mess

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no no, that is fine

sharp tundra
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Indeed

foggy hazel
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it IS confusing as all heck

idle hawk
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i just want a civil debate

little osprey
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You know what’s funny

sharp tundra
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It's civil up in here

idle hawk
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food for the mind of the mind and soul

foggy hazel
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i am always up for actual debate :)

little osprey
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The Xbox series x matches the graphics of a $2000 computer for $500

idle hawk
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and the burning chaos of the world

little osprey
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If only they gave the option to run windows

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That thing would dominate

foggy hazel
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now, Nomad: lets tackle the production stuff :)

idle hawk
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i managed to pre order the series x

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production was me lol

sharp tundra
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Ight

idle hawk
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or manufacturing

sharp tundra
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I did want a series x

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But I decided to build a pc instead

idle hawk
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when it gets here ima sell it

foggy hazel
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production/manufacturing of cards specifically

idle hawk
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at a decent price

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not scalping price

leaden pawn
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Hey, whats a good mother board to use with a Ryzen 5 3600X and a Radeon 5700XT.

foggy hazel
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lets say that the chips have been producing at a rate of 100/day

idle hawk
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i managed to get a pre order from microsoft

foggy hazel
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the AIB's can easily keep up with that

idle hawk
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question

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so microsoft silicone is different then

foggy hazel
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(keep in mind, numbers i use are just for the sake of example, they are NOT actual numbers)

sharp tundra
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I mean silicone is silicone