#building-and-recc-chat

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stoic island
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you already bought half the things..?

little osprey
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Only missing cpu and gpu

stoic island
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smh

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just

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oh well

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Money was wasted

little osprey
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Elaborate

stoic island
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X63 overpriced as hell for what it is for ocing tbh

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arctic freezer ii 280mm for 100$

sharp tundra
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What the hell is in your pc that is $800 if it isn't a cpu or gpu?

stoic island
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X570 Aorus master wayy wayy overkill

little osprey
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Artic freezer 2 out of stock

stoic island
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100$

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would likely still whoop that x63's rear

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next, rgb pro

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it's...

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interesting.

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Don't be too surprised it if blocks your top radiator

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I hate corsair's rgb ram for the sole reason of being wide for no reason

little osprey
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I was told the same

tame hazel
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anyone using a custom liquid cooling loop?

little osprey
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I’m ready to send the ram back if it doesn’t fit and maybe get some cl16

stoic island
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Yea I'd suggest it

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PCIe 4.0 SSD is overkill for 98% of situations

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@tame hazel why?

little osprey
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It is

narrow rose
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I disagree

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I say 99.5% of situations lol

tame hazel
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im thinking of diving into a whole system liquid cooling loop not sure if its worth the hassle

stoic island
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ha

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Worth the hassle for performance? no.

prisma stag
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@stoic island ahhhh so i said screw the vertical mount since i was having problems and now when i put my graphics card back in the normal way i still have no display

stoic island
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It's gonna cost you 400$+ for a full loop

tame hazel
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not worth the performance?

little osprey
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Custom loops are expensive af

stoic island
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Not worth

little osprey
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Not really

glacial umbra
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is 4 cores usually enough for gaming + discord and maybe youtube?

tame hazel
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price is not much of a issue

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im scared of leaks

little osprey
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4 cores is on the iffy side

stoic island
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and it's annoying

narrow rose
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if the 3090 doesnt need it neither does your hard drive is my motto

stoic island
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because leak testing

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and mainteance

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I just wouldn't do custom loop

tame hazel
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makes sense

prisma stag
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can u help mr1111

glacial umbra
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it's quite a bit cheaper than a lot of the 6 core CPUs though

stoic island
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It may not even offer you much more performance than a good aio

tame hazel
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just a AIO for CPU then?

honest helm
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If you want it, go for it. But it won't be life changing.

stoic island
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Arctic freezer ii to be specific

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Best performing AIO GN has tested :D

tame hazel
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what about Noctua? or NZXT?

stoic island
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@prisma stag wat

narrow rose
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a custom loop is like a hobby on top of gaming

little osprey
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Artic freezer is the best aio

stoic island
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@tame hazel My suggestions: Either get a NH-D15s, or get Arctic Freezer ii aio

little osprey
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Nzxt not too far off, only a couple degrees

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But more expensive

tame hazel
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which is the best you think between those too?

stoic island
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everything is only a couple of degrees off for good coolers smh

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Arctic freezer ii

prisma stag
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@Mr1111 [Read Your Manuals] ahhhh so i said screw the vertical mount since i was having problems and now when i put my graphics card back in the normal way i still have no display

stoic island
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literally the best cooler GN has tested

tame hazel
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gotcha

stoic island
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@prisma stag reset cmos

prisma stag
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ok 1 sec

sharp tundra
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Someone wanna rate my build?

CPU: Ryzen 7 2700x
GPU: Zotac RTX 2060
PSU: Corsair TX550M
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPZ 2×8GB 3200mhz
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO SSD NVMe M.2 1TB
MOBO: ASRock b450-m
Case: Thermaltake Versa H18

stoic island
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4/10

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What's the budget?

prisma stag
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@mr1111 reset cmos no display

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@stoic island

stoic island
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that was quick

sharp tundra
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I already got a good amount of that stuff, but budget can fluctuate around $1200

little osprey
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what parts u already got

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god that build.

sharp tundra
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Cpu, mobo, ssd, ram,

little osprey
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5600xt > 2060

sharp tundra
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Same price though?

little osprey
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cheaper

sharp tundra
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Oh?

little osprey
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a lot cheaper

stoic island
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oh gawd

prisma stag
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mr111 clear cmos didnt work

little osprey
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5600xt going for 250 usd now

stoic island
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mxmo you go fix that

little osprey
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nomads build ?

stoic island
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yea

sharp tundra
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Dang, okay, ill look into it

little osprey
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nomad send list again

sharp tundra
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Someone wanna rate my build?

CPU: Ryzen 7 2700x
GPU: Zotac RTX 2060
PSU: Corsair TX550M
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPZ 2×8GB 3200mhz
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO SSD NVMe M.2 1TB
MOBO: ASRock b450-m
Case: Thermaltake Versa H18

little osprey
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whats an asrock b450-m ?

prisma stag
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mr1111 what should i try now

sharp tundra
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Apparently a really good budget board says LTT

little osprey
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no i mean

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it doesnt exist

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all asrock b450 boards here

stoic island
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dunno

little osprey
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maybe ac ?

stoic island
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Well, don't listen to LTT >:P

little osprey
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^

sharp tundra
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Loop one in that list

stoic island
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@sharp tundra did you buy it already or no

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the motherboard

little osprey
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he already bought mobo iirc

prisma stag
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clear cmos didnt work

little osprey
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r u sure ur clearing cmos correctly

stoic island
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because if they bought it

little osprey
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seems awfully fast

stoic island
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they can tell us which model lol

cursive magnet
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@stoic island A little late, but Thank you!

stoic island
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:)

little osprey
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damn it is pcpp acting up ??

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cant find this on pcpp

stoic island
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oh well

outer heart
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like is the extra 100 worth

stoic island
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5700xt

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unless you want streaming

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then go 2060 super

outer heart
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aite aite

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danke

cursive magnet
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@stoic island I will probably cut out one of my 2tb ssd, is there large improvement to raid of 2x 1tb ssd instead of a single ?

stoic island
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what about not raid-ing SSDs

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:P

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Raid is more about data security

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Raid 1 is designed to keep a copy of all the data on the second drive

little osprey
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that was hard to work with considering he didnt provide a pcpp

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nor specific models

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ill be signing off for today

stoic island
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Aight, good night

sharp tundra
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You would recommend these instead?

little osprey
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yes

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definetely

polar anvil
little leaf
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Could be better

polar anvil
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what could u make better

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@little leaf

sharp tundra
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That case seems like its lacking some airflow

weak field
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ryzen 2600 cheaper

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and more uprgadwble

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aswell as a non needed cooler

sharp tundra
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@little osprey

frosty crystal
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Do I need to RAID or not really @stoic island

stoic island
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no

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you don't

frosty crystal
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Whats the purpose of raid

hazy rune
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pillaging and plunder

fervent oasis
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redundancy

hazy rune
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In all seriousness, it's really meant for work situations where you have a significant number of drives

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For personal use, it's not necessary

narrow rose
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it used to be a big speed boost

fervent oasis
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Raid 0 - making two drives appear to be a single drive
Raid 1 - Mirroring - making 2 drives write exact copies in case one drive fails
Raid 4 - Striping - Gaining a performance boost from being able to write to more than one hard drive at a time. if one drive fails all data is lost
Raid 5 - Striping with parity - one drive in an array of 3 or more drives can fail and the data is still accessible. One entire drive's storage is used for the parity and is not usable for storage
Raid 6 - Striping with 2 partity - same as 5 except 2 drives storage space is used for parity. Minimum number of drives needed is 4

cursive magnet
stoic island
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no

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Go 27in for 1440p

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and get IPS whenever possible

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like a Gigabyte G27q at 330$

cursive magnet
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Ips?

stoic island
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Panel type

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IPS > VA > TN

narrow rose
frosty crystal
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So I should not use raid if I only game

fervent oasis
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all raid adds processing

stoic island
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there's no reason to use raid imo other than data safety

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like backblaze or smth

fervent oasis
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don't use raid if you game

narrow rose
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raid isnt nearly as good now that we have super fast ssd's

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i mean if you are rich and want to raid 3 1tb nvme drives together you will see faster load times but not much

fervent oasis
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I did a raid 4 with 2 SSDs and I couldn't see the difference

narrow rose
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yeah I cant think of anything that would need to write that much data in a short period of time other than running a server

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video editing maybe

junior atlas
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Even video editing doesn't need that

fervent oasis
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video editing performance seems to need more ram more then faster hdd

junior atlas
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Ram is king from having my stream footage rendered and written.

fervent oasis
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I noticed a big jump going from 64gb to 128gb

narrow rose
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yeah its wierd to think of hard drives not being the slowest part anymore

junior atlas
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Yeah honestly. Times have changed.

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Here I am about to build a system and usually I'm hung up on which hard-drives I want to invest in. This time around, my storage was basically just auto picked and go.

fervent oasis
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lol

narrow rose
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raid used to be so important

fervent oasis
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my next build will have to determine Intel or AMD

junior atlas
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I still have a raid mini server but thats just because I got it in a contest. It being RAID is literally inconsequential lol

fervent oasis
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I'm only 1 year into my normal 3 year upgrade cycle

junior atlas
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@fervent oasis Where do you think you're leaning?

fervent oasis
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I am currently running an I9-7940X

narrow rose
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nice

fervent oasis
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but I am eyeing the new threadrippers

junior atlas
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Haha I wish I had a legitimate use for a Threadripper

fervent oasis
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not a gaming cpu

junior atlas
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But "fancy enthusiast reasons" isn't tax deductible.

fervent oasis
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too true

narrow rose
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it kind of is

fervent oasis
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you can make anything a gaming cpu if it is fast enough

narrow rose
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My gaming pc and work pc are one and the same

junior atlas
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Not when its tied to my business, too many variables.

weak field
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funny

fervent oasis
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but the price for performance isn't there for gaming

weak field
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yeah

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sad

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so much potential

narrow rose
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do I need a 2080ti to work in CAD of course not but I wrote it off anyways...

fervent oasis
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lol

weak field
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shhh

fervent oasis
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I'm still running a 1080Ti

weak field
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none will know

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gosh darn i love blower style cards

junior atlas
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@narrow rose Like for instance, in Ontario here because I'm running so much voltage at home for an e-sports league, which I am a part owner, and an online retailer, I can deduct a part of my utility bill based on an equation of my total usage versus square footage versus time spent at units.

weak field
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just bad airflow and overpriced

fervent oasis
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now I just have to wait for the 3000 or 6000 to be available

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Mine has an AIO

weak field
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yeah

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ion even need a 3070

junior atlas
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But when it comes to upgrades, if I cannot provide the improvement in value to my workload (some of which is gaming related) my accountant can't spin the narrative to meet the requirements

weak field
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just gonna playing games at 1080p low-high settings

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rx 5700xt should be fine

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but

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if i do decide to go 1440p ill have that option

narrow rose
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@junior atlas we can do similar deductions here in the US and assets are the easiest

junior atlas
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Kudos to that, I wish I could 😂

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Deductibles for the mortgage? No problem! Rebates on upgrades? This sounds like fraud 😒

narrow rose
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If I started deducting my electrical cost the IRS (US taxman) would be on my doorstep lol

sharp pelican
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I have an enthusiast build

junior atlas
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Perks of utilities in Ontario being government controlled

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I can deduct costs for commerce.

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@sharp pelican Whats your set up? Still looking for suggestions.

sharp pelican
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Heh, welll...

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Lets say its 11 years old

narrow rose
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that does makes sense though the public doesnt come to my home/place of work

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does it have an old i7 in it 🤞🏼

sharp pelican
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But hell,
I7 920
GTX 750
6GB of 1600mhz dd3
1tb Hitachi hdd
ASUS P6T deluxe v2

junior atlas
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For 11 years ago you had the cats meow lol

fervent oasis
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@narrow rose there should be a writeoff for using your home as your place of business

narrow rose
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thats a little older than was hoping... lol

sharp pelican
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Yesh

fervent oasis
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nice triple channel

gilded ember
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i got a question about watercoolers and cpus if someone has the time

sharp pelican
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Was gonna buy a p6t workstation pro

fervent oasis
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I'm typing on my Dell XPS930 right now

sharp pelican
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Just for the fact of X5690 compatibility

narrow rose
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@fervent oasis there is just not my utilities

fervent oasis
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I have one of those boards

sharp pelican
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For a cpu that was 1699...

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Now goes on ebay for 89.99

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Poor lads

fleet pagoda
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3090 128 gb ram 3990x threadripper 12tb storage

fervent oasis
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the p6t6?

narrow rose
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@gilded ember hit us with the water cooler cpu question

gilded ember
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ok

sharp pelican
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the p6t6?
@fervent oasis Nah, a workstation professional

weak field
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dang daniel

sharp pelican
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Support for the xeons and i7's

gilded ember
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if i got a mobo/intel cpu combo with a coolermaster seidon 120m water cooler....and i get a new board with an amd processor will my water cooler work?

weak field
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xeons arent the best for gaming

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destroy workloads

fervent oasis
sharp pelican
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sigh

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Close

gilded ember
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like will it bolt up right and stuff on the new motherboard?

narrow rose
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@gilded ember most likely no since you wont have the brackets to make it work with amd without buying them

gilded ember
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hmm, is there somewhere i can just get the brackets? all my searches bring me to full cooler purchases?

narrow rose
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also its a good idea to get a new cooler anyway

fervent oasis
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check the coolermaster website

narrow rose
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aio's dont last forever and will fail eventually

sharp pelican
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xeons arent the best for gaming
@weak field Its basically a 990x but with 288GB ram cap and higher memory bandwidth

fervent oasis
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they may be available

gilded ember
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k, thx!

narrow rose
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np

sharp pelican
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And its overclockable

fervent oasis
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@sharp pelican I have a w3565 on the board above now

sharp pelican
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Nice

fervent oasis
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yes, it is able to overclock Xeons

deep wren
fervent oasis
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well, as much as you can, about 10%

sharp pelican
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Yeah, thats the only problem

fervent oasis
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why the 9700K?

sharp pelican
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Nice 4 core

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At least get a 10600k

inland parrot
fervent oasis
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psu is low power. you may want a 750

sharp pelican
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Yes

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But get a 3070

deep wren
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750 whay

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No

inland parrot
sharp pelican
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Yes

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But get a 3070

cursive haven
inland parrot
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Give me a reason why i should get 3070

sharp pelican
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Better performance

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Easy

fervent oasis
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@deep wren there is something called capacitor aging. You lose 3-5% of the power rating each year

junior atlas
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@inland parrot better band for your buck. Ita similarly costed to lesser cards. But good luck getting one til January.

deep wren
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Ok so get a 650-750 power supply?

fervent oasis
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yes

deep wren
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Got it

fervent oasis
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your 1080ti will eat 200W of that PSU

deep wren
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Yikes

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Good to know

inland parrot
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Well i cant wait becsue i need the pc in a few week

junior atlas
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I have a 1080ti on my current rig, and it eats 210w in any capacity

deep wren
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But pc part picker said the total is like 460

sharp pelican
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iS tHiS a gOod CpU?

junior atlas
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I run it on a 750 and have for 2 years now@deep wren

deep wren
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Ok

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How much is the 3070 again?

junior atlas
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Honestly for the marginal cost of the higher wattage, you want to leave a higher ceiling for aging out your power supply, upgrades in the future, and just keeping the power supply at around mid capacity helps maintain it in the long run.

fervent oasis
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true

deep wren
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Igt

fervent oasis
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I ran my 1000w for 8 years

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couldn't believe it

sharp pelican
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I ran my 800w for 11 and counting

deep wren
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Watts intensify

fervent oasis
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mine got taken out by lightning

junior atlas
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@deep wren the cost fluctuates. Its not really easily available so price goes up with demand on the secondary market and retailers have a hard time getting them.

sharp pelican
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Nzxt powersupplys.....

deep wren
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Oof

sharp pelican
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They're something else

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800w for 11 years die

junior atlas
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3080s tho... little easier to get but easily a flat 1000+ around me.

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But that's probably unnecessary

deep wren
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My budget says no. I can't afford a 3080 or 3070

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Unless I buy a used one

fervent oasis
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mine too

junior atlas
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Could go Radeon 5700, might be a little better cost to performance ratio. I'm not very familiar with the line up tho. Someone else might have a better opinion

fervent oasis
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I'm content to wait for a number of months

junior atlas
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Ordered a 3080 three days ago. My wallet is crying.

halcyon olive
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guys my friend

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she got a 870$ pre-beiul

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built*

deep wren
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My friend has a dual 3080 ti set up tho

junior atlas
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In SLI? Thats a bold strategy, Cotton

deep wren
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128 gigs of ram too

halcyon olive
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3080 ti ?

deep wren
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Or what wver

fervent oasis
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I didn't think the ti were out yet

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3090 is

junior atlas
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Current nvidia 3000 series dont have a ti option yet.

deep wren
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It a 3080 something

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It's wack

halcyon olive
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but she doesnt know how to put in her new 2x 8gb trident Z Rgb ram

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and she figured out how to take them out but dont know how to put em back in LOL

junior atlas
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@halcyon olive have her take it back to the retailer and make them do it. You have no idea how that unit was fiddled with, or if it was glued or some other aftermarket sorcery.v

abstract garden
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anyone know what the ram speeds go up to for the 5600X? this is just confusing

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no way it’s only 3200

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anyone website said up to 4000

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another*

fervent oasis
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that just means 3200 is supported and anything higher is considered OverClocking

dense quiver
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Im looking for a good 500-550 watt psu what should I get?

junior atlas
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I was reading in some of the release notes from a few different places that 3600-4000 was the sweet spot for Ryzen 5000 series but we won't know for sure until people get their hands on it.

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3200 is likely baseline.

abstract garden
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mmm ok

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is it worth over clocking the ram or what

junior atlas
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I dont find it necessary, but others do. I'd rather just add to my existing pool of ram lol

fervent oasis
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OC ram is where you get better fps performance

deep wren
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My friends pc is insane that's the bottom line. 250 fps max graphics on cod modern warfare

abstract garden
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I was gonna get Ballistix 3600 CL16 for like $75

vital warren
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solid kit

deep wren
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Idk if it has rtx support or not

fervent oasis
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rtx?

abstract garden
halcyon olive
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guys yall think the 5000 series and the 6000 series Amd products really would improve performance

abstract garden
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o wait that’s with the wrong ram

deep wren
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The game

junior atlas
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@halcyon olive I think for sure the new cpus will make a difference. Have no expectations of the AMD 6000s until i see benchmarks from other people.

deep wren
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Ouch

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I just died

junior atlas
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I'm picking up a 5950x as soon as I can get my hands on one and start building around it and my 3080

fervent oasis
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gnight

deep wren
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YouTried I really did

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I was told the build I have is a bottle neck

little osprey
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lemme see it

deep wren
little osprey
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your not actually planning on buying that are you

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is that for gaming ?

deep wren
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What do you mean

little osprey
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u don’t even have an ssd..

deep wren
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I know

little osprey
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u did that on purpose ?

deep wren
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I was looking for some

little osprey
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oh so it’s not finished

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don’t buy an msrp 1080ti please

deep wren
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I wasn't this is just the outline

little osprey
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god an 80 usd mobo for a 300 usd cpu

deep wren
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I'll buy some or most of these used

little osprey
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no

deep wren
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Why

little osprey
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the only good part in that pcpp is the hard drive

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and the case i suppose

deep wren
little osprey
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i’m on my phone right now so i can’t really make u a list but i think i have one i made yesterday laying around

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your budget is 1500 correct ?

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use is taking as well

deep wren
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Yes

little osprey
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gaming**

deep wren
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Yep

little osprey
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somehow i was able to compile this on mobile

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gpu is replaceable with whatever you would see to fit ur budget just run it by smo in this server before

deep wren
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Who is smo

little osprey
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someone*

deep wren
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Ok

little osprey
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take a quick look if u will

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do ping me when needed

deep wren
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Ok

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I have to go rn but I'll look later

little osprey
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aight

vital jacinth
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Yo

little osprey
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wats up

junior atlas
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@deep wren other than the 3070 (because budget) I approve of his build.

little osprey
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thank you

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would’ve gone 3080 but yk stock

junior atlas
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Up here in Canada it's easier to get a 3080 than a 3070

little osprey
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i’m packing my bags

junior atlas
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Wait til you hear the price.

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1400 CAD for a 3080, 1100 CAD for a 3070

deep wren
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Canada ho!

little osprey
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actually i like the states better now

junior atlas
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Its a 15% mark up including the exchange rate

little osprey
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i do think the SN750 is the cheapest nvme ssd in cad right ?

junior atlas
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I cant confirm but I'd be inclined to agree with you.

little osprey
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yea heard mR1111 mention it

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i’ve actually compiled a lot of cad builds in the past week

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would be great if 10100F could get released in the states tho

lyric thistle
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isn't the 10100F just a 10100 without an igpu?

little osprey
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yea for cheaper

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would be great to fit into my low budget intel builds

lyric thistle
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ic

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too bad Intel boards are ever so slightly more expensive

little osprey
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mmm h420 gets the job done

lyric thistle
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though I think A320s are like the same price as B450 for some reason

little osprey
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iirc 10100f with 2666 actually rivals if not beat 3100 in some games

polar anvil
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need 600 dollar build ]

junior atlas
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Haven't touched Intel since Ryzen 😅

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I barely keep up with the technical aspects.

little osprey
#

need 600 dollar build ]
@Mike.#1878 got it gimme a few seconds

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we’ll minutes

lyric thistle
#

10100 alone is cheaper than the 3100

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by a small margin

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and 10100/F has better single core than 3100

junior atlas
polar anvil
#

@little osprey ok

little osprey
#

Crazy how much better a 1500 dollar build is in 2020 even compared to a 1500 dollar build only 3 years ago

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i’m on mobile so can’t really do much

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change the psu to something cheaper if you’re on a really tight budget

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I could use a second pair of eyes tho. This about where I am at with my next build. Budget really isn't that much if a concern but will value shop as needed.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/V42BcT
@junior atlas would change nzxt psu to enermax rev df other than that solid overkill build

System Builder
#

well overkill for my needs anyways

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went all out with the bling haha

junior atlas
#

Fair enough. Just want a digital psu so I can monitor my usage for tax claims minute to minute.

dark cloak
#

mike that 600 build the strategy i would use is to pay attention to upgrade path throw a ryzen 5 g in a b550 motherboard and then get discrete graphics and a better processor later

little osprey
#

uhh 600 usd build with a matisse gpu and b550 ?

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i guess you could make it happen but you’d be tanking a lot of money on that graphics power

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Fair enough. Just want a digital psu so I can monitor my usage for tax claims minute to minute.
@junior atlas yea tbh that list isn’t anything i’d recommend purely because of how much money is being used on aesthetics but everyone has their own preferences

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at that price point there’s nothing to really improve upon other than looks

junior atlas
#

I could probably save a few with less aesthetics but I always found that my builds are so high end that I might as well focus on looks. Gonna have to look at it for the next three years so I might as well really invest in the looks that reflect my workstation and personality.

little osprey
#

completely understandable

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i’ll be signing off now been awake since 5am

winter marsh
#

So folks what are the bets Scalpers will buyout the RX 6800XT to protect their investment in the RTX 3000's?

stoic island
#

none

winter marsh
#

Why?

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AMD isn't immune to online scalping...

little osprey
#

of course they won’t be immune but i assume they’d be learning from nvidia to install an anti botting system like captcha

stoic island
#

@winter marsh because who wants to bet on that :P

winter marsh
#

so you are saying scalpers wont manually mass buyout new tech as a organization?

vital warren
#

that's taking geek squad to the next level

stoic island
#

what

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when did I say that

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I said there's no reason to bet anything

winter marsh
#

@stoic island Keep in mind I am a "Realist"

little osprey
#

no that is most definitely a probable scenario

stoic island
#

what does that have to do with anything

winter marsh
#

the RX 6800XT is on par with the RTX 3080 so will be scalped, the new AMD cpu's is a big maybe.

exotic saddle
#

this is all i got

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any recommendations?

stoic island
#

uhh

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uhhhhh

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@exotic saddle what's it for?

exotic saddle
#

everything i do

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gaming, streaming, video editing, etc

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first build

stoic island
#

that's what I needed to hear

#

what's overall budget?

exotic saddle
#

2.5k without the gpu and peripherals

stoic island
#

Okay, simple enough

exotic saddle
#

if u can get an equally good build around 2k id prefer that

stoic island
#

brb

exotic saddle
#

okie

stoic island
#

without GPU that's crazy high

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just so you know

exotic saddle
#

yeah lol

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I'm just set on the 3080 and 3900x, don't know what to get for the others

stoic island
#

Need wifi?

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well I'm suggesting 5900x >:D

exotic saddle
#

don't wanna wait an extra couple months maybe lol

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don't need wifi

stoic island
#

try tomorrow :)

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@exotic saddle let's try this to start off.

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Storage reasoning being : Mp34 1tb for boot, and the other 1tb for scratch disk for editing videos.

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since you mentioned video editing, a dedicated scratch disk is good to have.

#

Unify is kind of placeholder as the motherboard

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it's still overkill

#

Storage can be moved around

exotic saddle
#

ooo nice

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is there an air cooling that can cool this system well?

stoic island
#

Yes

exotic saddle
#

I'm kind of skeptical on water cooling cause of risks

stoic island
#

I just slap it in for being good

exotic saddle
#

if it leaks its gg man

stoic island
#

Do you care about looks?

weak field
#

in america we call this the “compensator 3000”

stoic island
#

because I don't automatically put in a NH-D15s because people don't like the looks

weak field
#

i asume lifted jeeps and guns are your thing too?

stoic island
#

even though it's just... Universal imo

exotic saddle
#

Sorry I really should have mentioned this earlier, my bad. I wanted a white-blue frosty pc look

weak field
#

sunglasses inside

stoic island
#

white blue?

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hm

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white will be simple

weak field
#

white

stoic island
#

blue will be interesting

weak field
#

light blue

stoic island
#

hmm

weak field
#

would look nice

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maybe black accents

#

nah

exotic saddle
#

just blue lighting

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don't need any blue parts

stoic island
#

Oh then RGB will be fine

scarlet bobcat
#

Random question: best cpu for a dell optiplex 7010?

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Usff

stoic island
lyric thistle
#

what CPU does the 7010 have installed?

scarlet bobcat
#

I3-3220

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I kind new to this stuff

lyric thistle
#

i7-3770 or thereabouts

exotic saddle
#

is there a white version of that ram?

stoic island
#

Yea

exotic saddle
#

okay awesome

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also can i fit a seagate barricuda 2tb hhd in there or no space

stoic island
#

yea

scarlet bobcat
#

How many watts should my power supply be?

stoic island
#

@scarlet bobcat what else you tryna have in there?

dusky plover
#

1200w min

stoic island
#

a BR500 should generally be fine

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wat

lyric thistle
#

400w would probably work if it's 3770 + GTX 1650

exotic saddle
#

tysmm

stoic island
#

@exotic saddle you can look into white am4 motherboards, but there aren't any great white motherboards :(

scarlet bobcat
#

Just want a decent pc that can run common games

stoic island
#

@lyric thistle yea but they're usually not cheaper than a br500 lel

lyric thistle
#

prob not

exotic saddle
#

i have never seen a white motherboard lol

lyric thistle
#

why I got a 500w psu :p

stoic island
#

@scarlet bobcat and by the way, 95% chance that the motherboard in there uses a proprietary power plug that's only on the proprietary psu in there

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so check that before you just go swap in PSU

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(in the optiplex)

scarlet bobcat
#

Alright thanks

stoic island
#

Just dell things

lyric thistle
#

as an example, my Lenovo computer had a 14 pin connector for the board, so I bought a standard 24 pin PSU and a 24 to 14 pin adapter

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works like a charm

stoic island
#

yea, so check before you just try to plug 24pin into whatever is in there

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I think I saw a 8pin (?) powering the motherboard on optiplex 9010 (?)

lyric thistle
#

mobo? more like gpu

stoic island
#

mhm

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mobo

lyric thistle
#

I was making jonke 😔

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oh well xd

stoic island
#

that's optiplex 3020

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and yea that's not a 24pin

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no matter how you count it

lyric thistle
#

now what about 7010?

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that seems to be their model of choice

stoic island
#

I go check

scarlet bobcat
#

What core is that?

#

Is a i7 3770 good?

foggy hazel
#

b450 mortar @exotic saddle

lyric thistle
#

it's okay :)

scarlet bobcat
#

I dont think a gpu fits though?

lyric thistle
#

I have an i7-4790 which is about par with a Ryzen 3200G

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you will have to get a low profile GPU

inland parrot
#

Might get this

lyric thistle
#

the highest end low profile GPU available atm is the GTX 1650

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which is a decent fit for a 3770

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it doesn't require extra power connectors from the power supply, so it is powered by the board

scarlet bobcat
#

Thank you for support guys, appreciate it

lyric thistle
#

yw

scarlet bobcat
#

Is 200w enough?

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Just checked

still bay
#

whats a good build for like 2.5k-3k

lyric thistle
#

I wouldn't go that low personally

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I think 250-300 maybe?

scarlet bobcat
#

What about the heatsink?

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Is the stock one okay?

lyric thistle
#

should be

still bay
#

whats a good build for like 2.5k-3k

scarlet bobcat
lyric thistle
#

about PSUs again, decent PSUs usually start at 400w these days

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that's a special cooler design, I would stick with it

edgy wagon
#

I want to start streaming. Should I get a 2070 super now or wait who knows how long until I can get a 3070

balmy patio
#

what do you want to stream

lyric thistle
#

special as in it might be difficult to find a fitting replacement cooler

balmy patio
#

and at what resoultion @edgy wagon

edgy wagon
#

1080p

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I have a 240hz monitor so I would prefer a high framerate

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but I only stream competative games

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cs, overwatch, valorant, then smaller stuff like terraria, risk of rain 2, and some other random stuff

balmy patio
#

a 2060 wouldn't sound bad at a low budget but if you're planning on getting something on the higher spectrum wait for the 3070 to get back in stock

lyric thistle
#

ooh the PSU is 200 watts

timber isle
lyric thistle
#

and a special form factor PSU at that

scarlet bobcat
#

The psu has 8 pins and 4 pins

lyric thistle
#

8 pin for the board, 4 pin for the CPU I believe

scarlet bobcat
lyric thistle
#

can you read the PSU sticker or send a picture of it?

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I think we need to figure out what form factor it is to see if you can upgrade it

mystic needle
scarlet bobcat
mystic needle
#

for a build like this, what monitor should i be getting

lyric thistle
#

cool, I'll see what I can find

next kestrel
#

@mystic needle prob a 144hz 1080p ips one

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idk if that could handle 1440p 144hz necessarily

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2060 super

lyric thistle
#

I'm not finding much that would fit the computer, and also be an upgrade from 200 watts

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maybe if the GPU was instead a 1050Ti or 1050

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I guess those are the same wattage as the 1650 :/

scarlet bobcat
#

It has no gpu

lyric thistle
#

I know, I'm trying to think of a GPU you could upgrade to

scarlet bobcat
#

I mean but first i need a good cpu?

lyric thistle
#

I don't know much about building with USFF and low wattage PSUs, maybe someone else could be of better help

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as for the CPU, you can use an i7-3770 as mentioned before, or a i7-3770K

scarlet bobcat
#

With the current psu or upgrade?

lyric thistle
#

that's the highest selection of CPU that Intel 3rd Gen Core platform supports, and the i7 can run on the current PSU

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that would be without a GPU upgrade

scarlet bobcat
#

So i could stay with the heatsink and psu, and just change the cpu?

lyric thistle
#

yep

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will you be playing recent games?

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without the GPU upgrade, you will be limited in graphics

scarlet bobcat
#

So 200wt is enough for an i7 3770?

lyric thistle
#

yes, the CPU is 77w by itself, the power supply will handle it okay

still bay
#

can someoine give me a good build for 2.5-3k?>

scarlet bobcat
#

Thank you so much

narrow rose
#

@scarlet bobcat if you put a gpu in there you should get a 250w

lyric thistle
#

I can't seem to find a 250w that would fit a 7010 USFF

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all 200w or lower

narrow rose
#

ok then it will have to do

scarlet bobcat
#

The i5 3470 is not worth it in 2020 huh?

narrow rose
#

lies

lyric thistle
#

sad

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anyway that's for the SFF vers

#

would that work for an USFF?

narrow rose
#

not going to lie I cant confirm it will fit in the case

scarlet bobcat
#

I think it too big for it

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So the i5 3470 not worth it?

lyric thistle
#

hmm

narrow rose
#

no you should be fine just keep the peripherals to a minimum

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no more than 3 hard drives 1 gpu and cpu

scarlet bobcat
#

I mean anything is better than the i3 3220 i have rn

lyric thistle
#

the i3 is 55w compared to the i5 at 77w and the i7 also at 77w

hazy rune
#

Why would you buy something that old? Maybe I missed it

lyric thistle
#

it would probably be weird to keep the i3 just to install a new GPU though

mystic needle
#

what gpu would i need to run 1440p

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144 hz

hazy rune
#

3070 if you can

hasty gyro
#

you guys would suggest an mp34 for an ssd right?

opaque widget
#

3070 is fine

hasty gyro
#

you could also run a 5700xt

lyric thistle
#

yes, mp34 good

hasty gyro
#

okay thanks

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would you have other suggestions for ssds?

lyric thistle
#

there's also Crucial P1

hasty gyro
#

i was looking at that one, you think its good?

hazy rune
#

sn750

lyric thistle
#

SN750 too

hasty gyro
#

alright thanks

hazy rune
#

I used to recommend sx8200

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But not anymore

balmy patio
#

why not?

hazy rune
#

They changed the hardware without changing the model

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i.e they're selling a slower drive under the guise of the same model

mystic needle
#

which 3070 should i be getting

lyric thistle
#

whichever one is cheapest I'd get tbh (of SN750, P1, MP34)

mystic needle
#

im getting an amd ryzen 3600x

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cpu

#

idk if that’s important as well

lyric thistle
#

whichever one you want

mystic needle
#

im asking about the gpu not ssds hehe

lyric thistle
#

yes

#

whichever 3070

mystic needle
#

oohhh

upbeat fog
lyric thistle
#

I don't think there's a preferred model yet

#

if there will be at all

#

@scarlet bobcat maybe you could get a GT 1030

open hamlet
#

I’m trying to build a PC for mostly gaming with some streaming for ~$1k any suggestions

lyric thistle
#

if 200w isn't enough for a 1650

inland parrot
lyric thistle
#

yes

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idk about the price though

#

I don't look at higher budget parts prices often

open hamlet
balmy patio
#

@open hamlet

open hamlet
#

I tried to make one that was more upgrade compatible

balmy patio
#

whats ur budget

open hamlet
#

1k I’d prefer to stay under but I’m ok with going 100 over if  necessary

balmy patio
#

ok ill see if i can find better parts

#

do you need wifi?

open hamlet
#

I was thinking of getting an adapter since I’m getting an Ethernet dropped into my basement but yeah I need wifi

balmy patio
#

ok

mint folio
#

can somone tell me the best pc specs for a $1200 budget

flint sun
#

@open hamlet i'd recommend the b550 gaming edge over the x570, since it has better io and internet while keeping the same compatibility with ryzen 5000. plus it's cheaper too, so unless you want to overclock a whole lot get the b550.

balmy patio
#

yeah that's what i was going with

mint folio
#

can somone tell me the best pc specs for a $1200 budget

fervent jay
#

wait im making a list for you

open hamlet
#

I don’t plan on excessive overclocking

balmy patio
#

ok @open hamlet what does future proofing mean to you

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upgrade compatible i meant

fervent jay
balmy patio
#

like what type of things will you be looking into upgrading

fervent jay
#

you could also upgrade the GPU if you want

open hamlet
#

I’d like it to be as upgrade compatible as I can but I’d mainly focus graphics card probably

balmy patio
#

ok

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so you don't care what graphics card is in rn, as long as it's decent?

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like the 1660 you have rn on your list

open hamlet
#

as long as it’s decent yeah

mint folio
#

ty

#

@fervent jay

vague maple
#

Like this is my prefrence type build please dont judge
@fervent jay
@fervent jay that build needs to be changed

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almost every part can be better

fervent jay
#

umm ok

vague maple
#

at a 1000 dollar list

#

i can build you either a performance first pc that has a 3070 that wont get bottlenecked at 1000 dollars, but you lose some benefits, like a lot of storage, fully modular cables etc

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or i can build you a more well balanced build with a 5700xt

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choose

inland parrot
#

@lyric thistle my budget for buying gpus is $450 anything over that i will not buy

fervent jay
#

@mint folio ask this guy he might have more knowledge than me

vague maple
#

increase the budget by 10 and you can buy a rtx 3070

mint folio
#

rtx 3070 is just 10 dollars more

#

exactly

vague maple
#

what do you need to ask me nova

fervent jay
#

I didnt see that

mint folio
#

i needthe best pc specs for a 1200$ budget

vague maple
#

ok

#

so a performance first pc

mint folio
#

yes

vague maple
#

ok

mint folio
#

and a little aesthetics

vague maple
#

ok

#

rgb?

mint folio
#

it doesnt have to be rgb but it has to look clean

vague maple
#

ok

mint folio
#

ty

fervent jay
#

So wait where are you gonna make this list cos the prices for the 3000 series is not there on pcpartspicker

vital warren
#

you can add a price

balmy patio
still roostBOT
#
kole#0007 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

glacial umbra
#

oh I forgot

#

:(

vital warren
glacial umbra
#

oh heck, you can adds prices in part picker?

#

much better no warning

vital warren
#

yep

glacial umbra
#

never knew that

#

would've been helpful awhile ago

fervent jay
#

Same here I never knew that

karmic bobcat
#

I just did custom part 👀

#

But I feel so dumb now

#

:/

mystic needle
#

is the pny geforce 2060 super 8gb good?

mint folio
#

its ok

mystic needle
#

im stuck

vague maple
karmic bobcat
#

Does anyone else get weirded out by PNY?

mystic needle
#

im hearing people say a 3070

vague maple
#

take out the hard drive and you're 30 dollars below budget

mystic needle
#

but im confused which specific one i want

#

well need

mint folio
#

ty

vague maple
#

np

#

@mystic needle any 3070 is fine

mystic needle
#

i cant afford the new one do u have any recommendations?

vague maple
#

if you want the best performance, go with an asus strix or an msi gaming card, but that'll cost you at least 100 dollars more for not a lot more powere

mystic needle
#

for the others

vague maple
#

you can't afford the new 3070?

mystic needle
#

$700

vital warren
#

get a 3080

mystic needle
#

for a 1300 dollar build

vague maple
#

the 3070 is the 500 dollar card mate

mystic needle
#

OH

vague maple
#

the 3080 is a 700 dollar card

vital warren
#

you can do 3080 in 1300

#

ez

vague maple
#

eh

#

not without cutting some significant cornes

mystic needle
#

rather not

vague maple
#

corners

#

lemme make a build

vital warren
#

not really cutting anything bad

vague maple
#

see if i can do it

mystic needle
#

so the new 3070 is gud?

#

might go for it

little osprey
#

Isn't eh properly pronounced aye?

vague maple
#

the entire 3000 series lineup is good value

#

besides the 3090

mystic needle
#

LOL

vital warren
#

ez

#

lil more power

vague maple
#

no need to spend that much on a psu dwella

little osprey
#

I've never used pc part picker. I just found the motherboard I wanted and looked at supported hardware. Then bought the best power supply I could find. The rest came even easier.

vital warren
#

now that's cutting corners

#

dramless ssd and bad psu

#

yikers

vague maple
#

that psu is not bad at all

vital warren
#

it is

vague maple
#

and the sn550 is a decent ssd

#

you can get the mp34 for 10 dollars more, so thats fine

mystic needle
#

where do i find the new 3070

little osprey
#

SeaSonic power supplies are the only thing I purchase

vague maple
#

the psu is quite reliable

mystic needle
#

cos it says 700 for 3070

#

so idk

hearty obsidian
#

It depends if you want a specific brand for the 3070

vital warren
#

seasonic s12ii is like tier c iirc

mystic needle
#

ohhh

hearty obsidian
#

You can buy them at best buy though

vital warren
#

depends on specific model hybrid

#

don't buy seasonic just to buy seasonic

mystic needle
#

which 3070 do u recommend?

vital warren
#

but you know as long as you don't buy a thermaltake smart

#

its fine with me

vague maple
#

@vital warren the reviews of the psu say it outputs enough power, its quiet enough, minor coil whine and the cables aren't ketchup and mustard

hearty obsidian
#

EVGA's version is popular

vital warren
#

coil whine

#

bruh

little osprey
#

Seasonic Focus 850 W Fully modular titanium certified

vital warren
#

I only recommend seasonic on the higher end

hearty obsidian
#

I've got a couple of friends who got a 3090 and the other a 3080

vague maple
#

minor coil whine when pushing it

glacial umbra
#

is the s12iii any better?

vital warren
#

?

#

same thing

little osprey
#

I've used Seasonic the past 15 years. Never once has a unit died due to the psu

glacial umbra
#

wait what

#

no difference between the s12iii and s12ii?

vital warren
#

i forgot the 3rd i the first time

glacial umbra
#

oh

mystic needle
#

when are the nvidia 3070 expected to go back in stock?

little osprey
#

Just get an amd card

vague maple
#

@vital warren

#

keep in mind i'm trying to fit in a 5600x

little osprey
#

I'm done with Nvidia

hearty obsidian
#

I don't think they are going to in stock for a while

vital warren
#

br is better

little osprey
#

Washing my hands of that company

vital warren
#

good

vague maple
#

br is great value

mystic needle
#

why hybrid?

hearty obsidian
#

Amd has stepped up

vague maple
#

and the board is a b550 that has positive reviews

mystic needle
#

amd graphics card?

vague maple
#

upgrade the build budget to 1350 and i can fit in an atx b550 board

hearty obsidian
#

Radeon 6000 series

little osprey
#

Nvidia is just like Intel over priced

vague maple
#

not really

little osprey
#

Yeah they're

vague maple
#

their 500 dollar card offers the same performance as a 2080ti

next kestrel
#

nah

vague maple
#

their 700 dollar card can push 4k 144 fps

glacial umbra
#

the 2080ti was overpriced

vital warren
#

I keep seeing builds where people have $200 boards with an r5 3600 and it triggers me

glacial umbra
#

lol

vague maple
#

and their 1500 dollar card was made for video editing

next kestrel
#

6800 is more expensive yikes

little osprey
#

I'm not comparing to last gen

vague maple
#

doesn't matter, the 2080ti was still very powerful

next kestrel
#

can't really argue that nvidia is overprices

little osprey
#

Equal to this gen amd is killing it

vague maple
#

then you're comparing to amds 6000 cards?

next kestrel
#

where there isnt a card in the price range of a 3070

glacial umbra
#

they could very easily put it at such a high price, lower the price next gen and make it look like a great deal

next kestrel
#

that beats it

glacial umbra
#

ez

#

great marketing

vague maple
#

amds 6000 cards are almost equal to nvidias prices

little osprey
#

500 dollars less

vague maple
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yes but the 3090 is for video editing and tasks wheere the 24 gb of vram is useful

next kestrel
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cool, their highest end card with less vram and not meant for gaming beats it in gaming

hearty obsidian
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You have to remember we haven't seen 3rd party reviews of performance yet

vague maple
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its nvidias mistake that they marketed it as a gaming gpu but everyone knows its not

little osprey
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500 dollars is a lot of money to save. Amd for life

next kestrel
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80$ is a pretty big deal to

vague maple
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its nvidias mistake that they marketed it as a gaming gpu but everyone knows its not
hybrid are you even reading this?

vital warren
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500 isn't really much in the pc world

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compared to ya know

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things

vague maple
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the 3070 and 3080 is a great value card

next kestrel
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threadripper

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:))

vague maple
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hell, the 3090 is great value if you consider it to be a titan card, while the previous titans were 2500

little osprey
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When you're a sheep to intel and Nvidia probably not a lot.

next kestrel
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haha

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sheep to a company

vital warren
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intel bad

next kestrel
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but AMD is king yep

vague maple
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well you clearly aren't listening to reason hybrid

mystic needle
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soo now im lost should i just wait for the nvidia 3070 to come back or pick a different one

vague maple
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grab the 3070

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the amd alternative is like 50 dollars more

next kestrel
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amd is a non-profit organization right? thats why theyre the best haha

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they wouldnt take advantage of competition

vital warren
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the 6800 is like 580 which is i mean

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eh

next kestrel
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80$ more for slight improvements

vague maple
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^

next kestrel
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according to amd benchmarks

vital warren
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550 is more reasonable

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should be 550

vague maple
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500 is msrp

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for the 3070

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vague maple
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thats a big difference in 80 dollars

next kestrel
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i swear

vague maple
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you can buy your ram with 80 dollars

next kestrel
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amd made the 6800 so expensive

hearty obsidian
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Yeah like 16gb ram with rgb

next kestrel
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to sell more 6800xts

little osprey
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Nvidia is a lot taking advantage of simps with Gsync monitors. It's just nonsense nowadays. Amd is the best forget the rest.

vague maple
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lmao hybrid

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lay down some facts if you want people to listen to you

next kestrel
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lmao

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amd is taking advantage of simps too

vague maple
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otherwise you're just a guy who's constantly ranting while ignoring facts

vital warren
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i'll buy whatever fits my budget

little osprey
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I'm sure they have Google facts are there. Go look

vital warren
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and thats that

vague maple
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that goes for me

next kestrel
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what facts?

vague maple
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that should be everyones desire in pc building

glacial umbra
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just buy whatever's best price to performance at a certain budget

next kestrel
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all you've said is other companies bad

vague maple
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not just sticking to a company forrever

next kestrel
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i swear

glacial umbra
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ez pz

next kestrel
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amd korea got caught

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planting users in forums

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to make positive posts about them

vital warren
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I see the r5 3600 as part of tomorrows "shell shocker" deals on newegg tomorrow'

next kestrel
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hybrid u sure ur not paid by amd?

vital warren
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better be 160

hearty obsidian
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If people like certain brands there's nothing wrong with that

next kestrel
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thats going oos in 4 seconds if it is

vital warren
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I will try my best to snag one

hearty obsidian
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160 that would be tempting

next kestrel
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its gonna be like 165$

vague maple
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not tempting

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that'll be an amazing deal lmao

next kestrel
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man

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whats up with amd fangirls these days tho lol

hearty obsidian
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I was looking at the r7 2700 earlier it's like $10 more

vague maple
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mhmm

mystic needle
next kestrel
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i had one on my back yesterday

mystic needle
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this is what i got going

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im stuck on gpu

vague maple
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a 2060 super wtf

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that's awful for 1300

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me and dwella made a rtx 3080 build for 1300

mystic needle
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yeah someone picked it for me

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and i was like

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hmmmmmmmmmmm

vague maple
next kestrel
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exhuast fan

vague maple
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@mystic needle what do you think about those builds?

next kestrel
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u sent blank list

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for yours