building-and-recc-chat

[stoic island]

@cursive magnet What are you trying to do with that?

[thorny tusk]

G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory is over priced

[hasty gyro]

if hes trying to game at 1080p 165 hz, he does not need that

[stoic island]

NO IT ISNT >:(

[hasty gyro]

lmfao

[stoic island]

I LUV MY NEO 3600C16 KIT

IDC WHAT YOU SAY

[hasty gyro]

its over priced

[thorny tusk]

is it rgb

so it flex priced

[stoic island]

I got it for 160$

just 10$ over cheapest 3600c16 2x16gb kits

hehe

[thorny tusk]

and the power supply does not need to be that bi

g

ok now thats a deal

[ripe wedge]

I have a neo 3600c16 2x16 kit

[hasty gyro]

oh it is indeed damn

[ripe wedge]

its good ram

[hasty gyro]

yeah

[stoic island]

yes

[thorny tusk]

the question is what is he doing with this pc

[hasty gyro]

i dont get it

hes going 1080p 165 hz

with 2 tb nvmw

nvmw

nvme

[thorny tusk]

twice

[hasty gyro]

and a 5700xt

this is american too so its like 3500 canadian

[stoic island]

I'm waiting for them to respond

...

[hasty gyro]

lmao

hes gone

[stoic island]

yea

[thorny tusk]

well how life guys

[stoic island]

Good, you?

[hasty gyro]

also i need a good b550 mobo

[thorny tusk]

good

[hasty gyro]

im good too

you guys have jobs?

[thorny tusk]

yep

you

[hasty gyro]

where do you work?

no not yet

[thorny tusk]

not saying

[hasty gyro]

where in the world do you live

[thorny tusk]

usa

[hasty gyro]

what state?

[thorny tusk]

na mate

[hasty gyro]

aight aight

[stoic island]

@hasty gyro B550 phantom gaming 4 is a good enough B550 board :P

[hasty gyro]

okay ill go with that then

it has the exact amount of fan headers too

[stoic island]

Yes

[hasty gyro]

yk whats funny

only a third of americans voted last election

[thorny tusk]

well

at lest im in the usa

[hasty gyro]

lol what

also does mobo io really matter that much

[thorny tusk]

only i can make jokes about the mess of a system it is

[hasty gyro]

excluding wifi

lmao okay okay

[stoic island]

Mobo io matters a lot if you're using all of it lol

[hasty gyro]

i honestly still dont understand the system

it does?

[stoic island]

if someone needs 10 usb sticks to do their job, they need the rear io to have 10 usb slots

[hasty gyro]

what if im just using it mainly for headphones, mic, keyboard and mouse

[stoic island]

if you don't use it

it doesn't matter as long as you have what you need

[hasty gyro]

i dont think i need 10 usb slots

[thorny tusk]

over kill

[stoic island]

mhm

To put simply

you only need what you need.

[thorny tusk]

yep

it change for each person

[hasty gyro]

alright thats good

i can agree with that

[weak field]

i want 10usb slots on my mobo

[thorny tusk]

ok

thats you

[weak field]

no

i speak for everyone

we all want 10usb slots

we need them

[thorny tusk]

i dont

[stoic island]

lemme think how many I actually use

mouse+headset+keeb+usb stick

and then sometimes usb to charge phone

[thorny tusk]

thats 50%

[weak field]

mouse,keyboard,headset receiver,phone charger,ps4controllercord,mini inflatable car dealership thing, mouse for school

i could keep going

[thorny tusk]

with out saying you could just fill it with usb sticks

why two mouses

thats only 7

keep going

[stoic island]

lol

mini inflatable car dealership thing

[thorny tusk]

second mouse

[stoic island]

mans out of ideas

and then say "i could keep going"

[thorny tusk]

@weak field

[weak field]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0762462876/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_i_6YXOFb3N205JK

[thorny tusk]

i have one of those

lol

[weak field]

i want 6

[thorny tusk]

what

things

[weak field]

water purifier, banana, juice maker

food proccesor

[thorny tusk]

banana

[weak field]

mixing bowl

[thorny tusk]

how do these go into usb slots

[weak field]

make them

[cursive magnet]

@stoic island Mainly gaming , with as much future proofing I can buy

[thorny tusk]

fhd

[stoic island]

wayy too big lol

1080p should be 24in

@cursive magnet what's max budget

when are you building

because god is that list...

yea

[little osprey]

i got pinged

[thorny tusk]

thats works on the discripictio

is this the guy who just leaves after putting this in chay

[little osprey]

who

[thorny tusk]

erinyes

[hasty gyro]

yooooo 31.5 inch monitor for 1080p lmao

youll be able to see every pizel

pixel*

[thorny tusk]

you right

it would be like pixel art

[hasty gyro]

lmfao thats exactly what it would be like

can you imagine

also why the 32gb white set of g skill

the white is already an added $100

[thorny tusk]

oof

[stoic island]

man takes like 10min to respond

but alright then

[hasty gyro]

lol

[thorny tusk]

see

[hasty gyro]

i dont really understand the build hes going for though

[cursive magnet]

What is with the list? That’s pretty much budget with holding some back for 30xx, or 6xxx GPU

[thorny tusk]

money

budget

dies

[hasty gyro]

bro your budget is 3k?

you have a lot of stuff you dont need in there

and also, you dont need to max out your budget

[stoic island]

There's too much wrong I see

tbh

[weak field]

save sum

[cursive magnet]

Pretty close

[hasty gyro]

like the 2 two tb nvme's you dont need

[stoic island]

Let's start from the top

[weak field]

for games

[thorny tusk]

this list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mzh2Vc

[stoic island]

3600xt is a waste

ngl

[hasty gyro]

let @stoic island talk

[stoic island]

and a velocita for a 3600xt for gaming, doesn't make sense

[weak field]

dont be that person thats like 3k on a computer, 0 on games

[thorny tusk]

the flex pc

[stoic island]

we'll deal with new cpu+mobo selection later

[hasty gyro]

lmao

[stoic island]

moving on, ram is meh, bit overpriced, we can leave it for now

Storage, simply, wtf.

WD Blue is SATA

and you're trying to use M.2 SATA drives

for future proofing?

[hasty gyro]

its overpriced cuz of white ram, its cheaper to just go black

[thorny tusk]

and two of them

[weak field]

oh my

[thorny tusk]

see the isue

[weak field]

you can cheapen that

alot

[hasty gyro]

yeah

and for 1080p

[stoic island]

For example, WD Blue are rated for about 500mb/s read/write

[hasty gyro]

5700xt isnt needed

[thorny tusk]

why 2 2 Tb

storages

[hasty gyro]

no idea

[stoic island]

something like a MP34 is rated for 3000/2700mb/s read write

[weak field]

all you need is a 500or 512gb nvme m.2 for boot and most used

and then a 2tb

[stoic island]

and that's the beauty of NVMe drives.

[weak field]

for games

[hasty gyro]

yeah

[thorny tusk]

the power supply

[weak field]

bomb?

[stoic island]

the rest are just too annoying to deal with imo

[hasty gyro]

lmao

[thorny tusk]

is expencvie

[hasty gyro]

okay so put together a list

[thorny tusk]

where saying 2k right

[stoic island]

@cursive magnet so look at this to start off, it's 1500$, there's room in the budget to add back ridiculous storage or whatever.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/HhWv3C

[hasty gyro]

3600 probably, could go regular 32gb g skill, not white, take away the 2 two tb sata drives, go for an mp34

[little osprey]

yo

[hasty gyro]

maybe add in a hard drive if you fancy more storage too

[thorny tusk]

4 Tb what are you doing with that much for gaming

[cursive magnet]

The machine I run now is almost maxed at 16b

[hasty gyro]

then run 32 gbb but dont buy white g skill

[stoic island]

I said we have room to add in the overkill stuff

[thorny tusk]

you may need to clean you pc

[stoic island]

but let's agree on that as a base

[hasty gyro]

yeah that too like

[weak field]

nah cuz

[cursive magnet]

Storage is not all for gaming

[hasty gyro]

to be fair, mw can be downloaded only 10 times with 4 tb of storage

[thorny tusk]

what else

[weak field]

64gb ram ryzen 9 3900x rtx 3090

10000w psu

[hasty gyro]

yes

[thorny tusk]

10000w

[weak field]

50000mhz ram btw

[stoic island]

okay whatever I'll add back in the 32gb of ram and ssds

[hasty gyro]

lmao

[weak field]

the 3900x oc to 54.8

[hasty gyro]

dont add in white ram

[stoic island]

neo isn't white smh

[hasty gyro]

54.9 ghz

[thorny tusk]

bro dont ask for advise if you dont want it

[stoic island]

I have trident z neos >:P

[hasty gyro]

where the hell is this guy

lol

oh there

[cursive magnet]

I work underground and not at a computer. Reception is spotty

[hasty gyro]

might need a network switch? idk

plus that could also just straight up be your internet

[cursive magnet]

I only can use my phone

[thorny tusk]

ram is based of hwo much your doing on your pc

[stoic island]

still way overkill, oh well, this is basically what your PC in the old list was, except just better in every other way
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hQ2j2V

[hasty gyro]

if youre using your pc to keep open 200 tabs on google chrome then yes you might need it

[thorny tusk]

ok erinyes have you ever built a pc before

[hasty gyro]

yes

[cursive magnet]

A few, but not in the last 5 years.

[stoic island]

take a look at that list

[thorny tusk]

make a cheeper build and add on later

[stoic island]

:P

[hasty gyro]

lmao

i agree with @thorny tusk thpugh

[stoic island]

so what are you trying to do with 2x2tb of NVMe SSDs?

[hasty gyro]

building a cheaper build and upgrading later is a great option

[weak field]

nick named

[stoic island]

because I'd start off with 2tb and just add in later

[weak field]

the compensator

[stoic island]

2tb of SSD takes a while to fill up

[thorny tusk]

like get a 1k buget

[hasty gyro]

yeah it does

[weak field]

yeah my ps4 is 1tb and i have mad games and stuff

[thorny tusk]

and then you got a good pc

[weak field]

only used like 700gb

[thorny tusk]

and you can change it easily

[hasty gyro]

wtf, my build is 2000 canadian but 1200 usd

scam

[weak field]

order in us

[thorny tusk]

moneys diffrent

[weak field]

or use s vpn

no

[hasty gyro]

yes

[weak field]

rent a po box

[hasty gyro]

ill use a vpn

[weak field]

order it to a po box

tell them to send to you

ez

[hasty gyro]

i actually might buy from us

[weak field]

dubz

[thorny tusk]

1 United States Dollar equals
1.31 Canadian Dollar

[weak field]

us “cheaper”

[thorny tusk]

thats why

[hasty gyro]

its literlaly 400 cad cheaper

[weak field]

bruh why a snickers cost 3.41?

[hasty gyro]

it would be 1575 cad

lmao

idk ask justin

[thorny tusk]

but you have to put you post adres

[hasty gyro]

yeah

would it actually be smart to do that though

[thorny tusk]

so vpn will not mater

[hasty gyro]

or i could order through big apple buddy

[weak field]

yoda hrm intensifies

[hasty gyro]

lol

idk how much shipping with them is though

they do us stores to canada

[weak field]

eh

decent

[hasty gyro]

i might try them then

who knows

i got time to decide

thanks for all the help you guys

its been great

and i also learned a lot more

ill be sure to ask you guys more questions if i have any

[thorny tusk]

its fun

[hasty gyro]

yeah it is lol

now i have homework to do

ugh

[thorny tusk]

oof

[hasty gyro]

actually one last question

ryzen 5 3600 vs i5 9600k

which is better

[cursive magnet]

@stoic island With the builds you make how often do you have to build a new system???

[thorny tusk]

ryzen is better

[stoic island]

basically never

[thorny tusk]

but it a chose

[stoic island]

I sit and make lists

I stare at numbers all day, I don't build stuff all day

[thorny tusk]

you change parts in you pc corect

[stoic island]

my own?

I have

[thorny tusk]

yes

[little osprey]

i havent upgraded my pc in 7 months

2600x+1660s is doing me well

probably going to last me till next year honestly

[thorny tusk]

my first one lasted 5 years

[cursive magnet]

My last build lasted just over 7

[thorny tusk]

no changes

[mystic needle]

any recommendations for an ssd

[thorny tusk]

it was a prebuilt

[little osprey]

budget ? @mystic needle

[mystic needle]

at $60 or less

for the ssd

[little osprey]

MP34

[winged tinsel]

Is 16 gbs of ram enough for the r7 3700x?

[mystic needle]

thanks!

[thorny tusk]

yes

[hazy rune]

@winged tinsel For what purpose?

[thorny tusk]

but why the 7 3700x

[winged tinsel]

Gaming and school

[little osprey]

Is 16 gbs of ram enough for the r7 3700x?
@winged tinsel 16GB is enough for any average consumer. But the real question is, do you need a 3700x?

[thorny tusk]

yep

try the 3600

[little osprey]

If it's just for gaming and school you wont need a 3700x as the performance difference between a 3700x and a 3600 in gaming is slim

[winged tinsel]

Wdym why do I need it though?

[hazy rune]

16gb is fine unless you are doing CAD or video editing

[thorny tusk]

save money

[winged tinsel]

Oh

[little osprey]

3600 is enough for gaming/school

Jaiden do you have a pcpp list you can show us

[winged tinsel]

Yep

[little osprey]

Let's see it

[hazy rune]

Be prepared for heavy criticism 🤣

[little osprey]

constructive criticism

[hazy rune]

That’s the heaviest kind

[little osprey]

:)

[thorny tusk]

it maters on what in it

[little osprey]

@winged tinsel send your pcpp we can make some improvments

[hazy rune]

Suggestions only of course

[thorny tusk]

yes suggestions

[hazy rune]

Your money, you decide how to spend it

[winged tinsel]

Ok one sec

[little osprey]

Of course, it's your money

[thorny tusk]

also is there a budget

[winged tinsel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/1234hihello/saved/

[hazy rune]

And do you live near microcenter?

😄

[little osprey]

oh yea a bunch here we could change

give me a few minutes

could u send the actual pcpp ?

instead of your saved file

[stoic island]

@cursive magnet oh yea don't run away yet
I want to give suggestions on peripherals

[winged tinsel]

How do u do that?

[little osprey]

send this

[cursive magnet]

I’m here

[winged tinsel]

I’m on mobile

[mystic needle]

@little osprey any big difference between 2,100 mb and 3,000?

[thorny tusk]

you could save money on the mp34 by doing 500gb

[hazy rune]

Power supply looks like overkill

[little osprey]

I’m on mobile
@winged tinsel got it thanks. give me a few minutes

quick question @winged tinsel do u need wifi ?

[cursive magnet]

@stoic island Please just tag me. I gotta be off and on

[winged tinsel]

I have Ethernet ready

[little osprey]

great

[stoic island]

Mhm, just wanted to make sure you didn't run off

[thorny tusk]

lol

[stoic island]

@cursive magnet for 300$, you can get a nice 1440p144hz monitor like this, which can easily be ran by a RTX 3080 I had in the list.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012013

[little osprey]

@winged tinsel https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rKjvfP

just a few things to save money here and there

[sacred knot]

how do mail-In rebates work?

[stoic island]

@cursive magnet and that keeb seems really overpriced, just grab something else at the 100$ or less imo, like this.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074F5L8GQ

[little osprey]

changes made:
motherboard was overpriced now changed to a G4 Phantom
1tb nvme ssd changed to 500Gb (optional to change to 1TB depending on use)
saved 5$ on ram by changing to Crucial 3600 CL 16
case upgraded to a better airflow optimized p400A digital
3700x changed to 3600 (gaming performance will barely be affected but price of pc will drop a ton)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rKjvfP @winged tinsel

[stoic island]

@cursive magnet and headset, this is a great headset :)
https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-x-sennheiser-pc37x-gaming-headset

[thorny tusk]

@little osprey the power supply

[little osprey]

AMP 750 is a great psu what do u mean ?

[low plaza]

Anyone got recommendations for a 144hz 1440p monitor? I am having eye strain with my Alienware 25 240hz. Would prefer 27 or 34 in or an ultra wide

[thorny tusk]

but does it need that much power

[little osprey]

his budget was 1400 so wouldn't hurt to give a little more to the psu :) just to help with future upgradability !

[thorny tusk]

ok does that 1400 included monitor

keyboard

mouse

[little osprey]

well his last build was 1400 and did not feature any peripherals so i guess not ?

idk you'll have to ask him

[thorny tusk]

@winged tinsel

monitor or na

[winged tinsel]

I have a monitor

And keyboard plus mouse

[little osprey]

:)

[winged tinsel]

I also have a case already

The h510 elite

[thorny tusk]

well

[winged tinsel]

Not the best for airflow I know

[little osprey]

h5xx isn't really great for airflow

if youve already got it then youre fine

just add a couple of P12's here and there

[winged tinsel]

Well In the next couple of days I may come into some money

So might use liquid cooling anyway

[thorny tusk]

just stop

water cooling expnsive and risky

[winged tinsel]

Risky?

[thorny tusk]

yes

have you herd of water

[little osprey]

custom loops are risky

i think by water cooling he means aio

you won't need an aio for a 3600 unless youre overclocking

and besides overclocking on amd is eh

3600 comes with a stock cooler which is more than suitable for stock configs

[thorny tusk]

overclocking kind dead

[little osprey]

well on amd

[thorny tusk]

yeo'

[little osprey]

but since ctr has been released it's been a hot topic on a few servers

[thorny tusk]

lets see what your typing

[weak field]

is the 2700x better than the 3600

streaming and maybe editing

[mild violet]

hey guys i need help, this gon be my first build, but as i live in puerto vallarta the shipping cost alone is about $250, and my budget is about $600 so i gotta take all of that down, so my "plan" was

Ryzen 5 2600
GTX 1650 Super OC
Ripjaws 2x8GB 3200mhz
Gigabyte B450M
Thermaltake Smart Series 450w 80+
A400 240GB SSD
Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 3.1

545 in total, but with shipping i'd be about $760 but with 750 i could make an rtx build so i gotta take the whole pc budget to abt 400, and please don't "help solve" with jus "pay for shipping" my budget is very very tight and i need this build before 2021 for college

long ass text sorry for htat

htat

[weak field]

so

3600 or 2700x for streaming and maybe editing

[thorny tusk]

so what are you doing with it

[mild violet]

3600 is for gaming, PROBABLY for streaming, but not really that much for editing, the 2600X would be better for all of those 3 task simultaneously, it also depends on your ram and GPU ofc

[thorny tusk]

ok let me call on some one @stoic island

[stoic island]

what

[mild violet]

dont get me wrong, the 3600 is very very very good CPU but the 2700x beats it thanks to its 8 cores, so go for the r7

[stoic island]

hm?

[mild violet]

am i suddenly invisible or something

[stoic island]

I'd say 3600>2700x for streaming

[thorny tusk]

this has a tight budget

[mild violet]

bruh fr ._.

[stoic island]

as long as you have a Nvidia GPU

encoding goes to GPU

CPU cores don't matter

[mild violet]

amd gpu's are trash dont go for one

[worthy wadi]

lol not anymore

[mild violet]

it matters at the time for editing, if you're just gonna stream then go for the r5

[stoic island]

@mild violet how many pesos total budget

[mild violet]

but the r5 can still edit

uhh abt 11-12k??

[stoic island]

I'll see if it'll work

[mild violet]

pesos, that was the best i could do

BUT with shipping cost i'd say about bruh uhhh 8k :/

[stoic island]

holy hell

you're kidding me with these prices

[mild violet]

what

[stoic island]

4200 pesos plus 600 pesos shipping on a 2600

[weak field]

whats a pesos

[mild violet]

ik, the 1650super is like $300 usd

1usd = 20 pesos

[weak field]

no

way cheaper

[mild violet]

I NMEXICO BRO

IN MEXICO

[weak field]

you can find them for 220ish

[mild violet]

in usa its abt 170 or smthn

[stoic island]

lol

[weak field]

oh

[stoic island]

but damn

these prices

[weak field]

229 for 1660 super

ikr

[mild violet]

wym i found a dual-fan for 170usd in amazon

[stoic island]

whew

[mild violet]

oh my god did i sa 1660s

i meant 1650s

no i said 1650s bruh i got it all wrong

but yh the 1660s isnt even an option here in mx

[weak field]

“ill take a snickers”
beep
“thatll be 24.99 usd”
“uh actually im fine”

[still roost]

kxda#6649 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mild violet]

BRO I SAID CORONA

WHATTTT

[stoic island]

PCPP pricing might be wrong

but god damn

does this seem too expensive
https://mx.pcpartpicker.com/list/hbFCz7

[vital warren]

i see the r5 3600 as part of tomorrows newegg deals hmmm

[mild violet]

plus with this corona bullsht the peso value dropped below sea level

1 usd = 27 mxn basically everywhere

and if you pay usd with card, u get charged like 38 pesos per dolar

[thorny tusk]

im sorry mate

[mild violet]

ok @stoic island dw abt shipping cost i got amazon prime, but bro fr intel??

[stoic island]

@mild violet whatever showed up as cheapest

I chose

[mild violet]

dam

is a mf rtx 2060 super yo cheapest option fr

[stoic island]

on pcpp

[mild violet]

ok thanks for the idea i'm gonna try to adjust it

[stoic island]

yea

[mild violet]

oh god really?

[stoic island]

that's why I said pricing is prob screwed up

[mild violet]

yh no i think im gonna have to stay with my AMD A6 and R4 graphics for another 4 years

look i made one by looking on amazon instead of pcpp and my prev build was abt 15.600

[stoic island]

welp

I'll give you my 800usd build

and you go see if it translates well on amazon

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/2P8cbv

[mild violet]

im getting ready for 31k pesos

[spice plaza]

Friendly reminder to check your PC cleanliness and clean it if its dusty everyone! I cleaned mine today

[stoic island]

lol

[mild violet]

look i dont wanna play like warzone on 1440p 240fps ultra, i just want to play like a ps4

[stoic island]

yea

it's a 800usd list with a 3100 and a 2060

it's simple enough

[mild violet]

i got a 1080p 60hz monitor so i just want to play on 1080p 60fps

bro 800usd

500usd translated to 16k pesos

[halcyon olive]

bro what

[stoic island]

I'm asking you to check

because regional pricing is wack

[ashen girder]

Get a 1060 and a 3100 if that’s ur goal

[mild violet]

n with my yeeyee ass pc rn i have to play on 720p 30fps

[halcyon olive]

why not a higher Hertz?

[mild violet]

wack

[halcyon olive]

well nvm thats alot

[stoic island]

oh well

[mild violet]

bruh beacuase im broke???

[thorny tusk]

thats life

[halcyon olive]

or you dont get 1080x60p and get a 240hz moniter

[mild violet]

budget pc's are like a ps3/xbox 360 rn

[fleet pagoda]

Hello my friends pc is making a weird noise when he hops on a game like a creeking noise

What can it be

[mild violet]

wym

[stoic island]

coil whine

[mild violet]

or you dont get 1080x60p and get a 240hz moniter
@halcyon olive bro dont u get it, i literally cant lmao im broke

[fleet pagoda]

It makes a sound like its creeking like an old rocking fhair

Idk what it is

[worthy wadi]

why not a higher Hertz?
rich ppl be like

[stoic island]

@mild violet ick all I'm asking is for you to check at least how pricing for 3100 and B550m HDV is

[mild violet]

whats a fhair

[halcyon olive]

just get a good qual 240hz dude if you spent almost 500-800$ on this other one then what

dude im not rich budddddd

[mild violet]

qtDexy u dont rly get it bro i literally LITERALLY can't

"im not rich wym" - Twitter for iPhone 11 Pro Max

[halcyon olive]

what?

Huh

i have a samsung s10 wym

[worthy wadi]

lol

[delicate bobcat]

I got the A20, that's real poor person stuff

[halcyon olive]

what fairy tales are you seeing in my profile

[mild violet]

BROOO i got so hyped up i saw "10,038" on the final cost but then i saw i was missing the gpu and the ssd

[worthy wadi]

: (

[halcyon olive]

damn dude

[fleet pagoda]

@stoic island do u know what the sound could be in the pc

[stoic island]

coil whine

PSU/GPU.

[delicate bobcat]

10,038?

[mild violet]

nah im just gonna forget abt getting a proper pc for a while, hopefully prices get back to "normal"

[stoic island]

@mild violet well that's a start.

[mild violet]

nah im just gonna forget abt getting a proper pc for a while, hopefully prices get back to "normal"
@mild violet pesos, about 500usd

[still roost]

kxda#6649 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mild violet]

bruh

[little osprey]

haha nerd

[stoic island]

try this, check pricing for cheapest A520 mobo, cheapest 2x8gb 3000cl16 ram, and a Crucial P1 500gb or P2 500gb

[delicate bobcat]

PP

[mild violet]

10,038?
@delicate bobcat pesos, about 500usd

[delicate bobcat]

Oh ok

[stoic island]

and GPU wise check the cheapest 1650 super.

[mild violet]

look pcpp rn is so fxcked up, i found a 2600 for 3k mxn but in pcpp they are for abt 4500

[little osprey]

the only things u shouldn't be using those filters for are the psu and drives

[delicate bobcat]

Yeah, it's a bit funky right now

[mild violet]

i already got my star gpu and ssd

im gonna look on amzn directly fxck pcpp

[stoic island]

have fun

[mild violet]

i was about to say "you too"

[fleet pagoda]

So this is coil whining?

[mellow imp]

hey mr1111, i know this list was a work in progress, but i kinda like it, if i was to add a game storage device, like a 1tb ssd, what would you suggest

[thorny tusk]

ok so is there a budget cause ssd be cheaper as 500mb

for a boot drive

[mellow imp]

wdym

i never linked the list fck

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Mr1111/saved/#view=qn9H23

there it is

[thorny tusk]

go for a hard drive

there cheaper

[mellow imp]

i know, but reliability and speed

[thorny tusk]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mwrYcf/seagate-barracuda-computer-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm008

somthing like that

[mellow imp]

also 2.5"

i have a crucial mx500 1tb and it works great, i was considering another one of those or an sk hynix

[lofty thicket]

Okay Mr1111 purple name extraordinaire

[mellow imp]

???

[lofty thicket]

He gone

[mellow imp]

damnit

[thorny tusk]

hard drives are cheaper

[stoic island]

Hm?

Am bak

[little osprey]

dont tell me ur comparing an nvme drive to a hard drive ?

[lofty thicket]

Ah yes

[mellow imp]

no not nvme, just ssd

[lofty thicket]

Mr very big pc brain

[stoic island]

If you want an extra game drive on top of it

[little osprey]

no not nvme, just ssd
@mellow imp once again, dont tell me ur comparing an ssd to a hard drive ?

[thorny tusk]

if your on a buget go for hard drive

[stoic island]

Hdd can work if you just have a lot

[lofty thicket]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rxh2Vc

[little osprey]

its 2020 hdd wont do crap

[stoic island]

But if you want fast load times, get like a P1 1tb

[little osprey]

unless ur on an EXTREME budget and this ones 1k usd kek

[mellow imp]

i wasn't i was saying id rather go ssd than hdd

[mild violet]

go for the A400 240GB SSD, if u rly want 1tb then go for the uhh Barracuda 1TB

[narrow rose]

lol I still have plenty of hdd for storage

[stoic island]

@mild violet no

A400 is dramless

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rxh2Vc
@lofty thicket 3600 CL16, P300A will need more fans for good airflow

[mild violet]

"good" budget option

[stoic island]

Dramless is bad

[woven tapir]

it doesn't matter since consoles are better than pc even when it comes to storage

[little osprey]

leave now

[stoic island]

So it's not a good option smh

@woven tapir nah

[mild violet]

are u somehow mentally ill bro??

[stoic island]

You won't be ready when directio api comes

[mellow imp]

oh buddy, you poked the wrong hornets nest

[mild violet]

consoles use HDDs thats why they take like 2h to load a game

[mellow imp]

so, recomendation for 1tb ssd?

[little osprey]

MP34

[stoic island]

Next gen consoles only temporarily hold the crown because the api isn't released for PC yet

[mild violet]

bro 1tb sdd damn

[primal fox]

Need advice on building a PC that’s good at high end video editing (Adobe Premiere & After Effects) as well as a good streaming machine that can run SLOBS flawless. Any advice/links appreciated

[dreamy sparrow]

anyone have an old card they dont rlly want any more

[stoic island]

Consoles get faster speeds rn via compression

Not pure speed

[mild violet]

Spanky whats your budget

[little osprey]

anyone have an old card they dont rlly want any more
@dreamy sparrow this isnt a market place kek

[mild violet]

Need advice on building a PC that’s good at high end video editing (Adobe Premiere & After Effects) as well as a good streaming machine that can run SLOBS flawless. Any advice/links appreciated
@primal fox whats yo budget

[lofty thicket]

@lofty thicket 3600 CL16, P300A will need more fans for good airflow
@little osprey why 3600? And should I get fans or a different case?

[primal fox]

Spanky whats your budget
@mild violet $3kish

[woven tapir]

Next gen consoles only temporarily hold the crown because the api isn't released for PC yet
@stoic island nah consoles have always been better and u know it

[mild violet]

damnnnn

[stoic island]

Lol

Alright then

[mild violet]

ii i'll brb

[dreamy sparrow]

dang just curious

[stoic island]

No information behind that

[mild violet]

3k jesus chrits

[little osprey]

@little osprey why 3600? And should I get fans or a different case?
@lofty thicket 3600 CL 16 > 3200 CL 16. Also let me revise your list brb

[mild violet]

get a mf rtx 3090 on yo way there

[narrow rose]

nice a pretty pc

[little osprey]

@lofty thicket 3600 CL 16 > 3200 CL 16. Also let me revise your list brb// also do u need wifi ?

[lofty thicket]

Yes

[primal fox]

It needs to handle this stuff good... need it to last a long time, kinda future proof

[stoic island]

Welp I'm looking forward to a good convo with Naed when directio comes

[weak field]

rtx 3070

[primal fox]

Running my old machine for 11 years now, still solid, need upgrade though

[weak field]

is good for 1080p?

[mellow imp]

more than good my guy

[weak field]

destroy?

“yes rico destroy”

[woven tapir]

go boom

[mellow imp]

very destroy

[lofty thicket]

Kaboom

[little osprey]

@lofty thicket https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TK3sXb

corsair cx > cxm

also p360A is better for airflow than p300a (stock configs)

[lofty thicket]

Sweet, thanks!

[mild violet]

It needs to handle this stuff good... need it to last a long time, kinda future proof
@primal fox im going for abt 3500 is that ii?

[primal fox]

@primal fox im going for abt 3500 is that ii?
@mild violet yes

[mild violet]

nvm 2800

[weak field]

can find b400-b500 for 100-110

[mild violet]

bruh im so stupid lmao

[weak field]

that arent matx

[lofty thicket]

Any reason why the Vulcan Z over the g skill? @little osprey

[mild violet]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2GLbht

[little osprey]

Any reason why the Vulcan Z over the g skill? @little osprey
@lofty thicket naw just price

[narrow rose]

took me a while but i did it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NtnNPV

[little osprey]

idk abt the dies on them tho

[narrow rose]

3k build

[mild violet]

too late

[narrow rose]

nooooo

its ok

[mild violet]

nah jk u did Intel i did AMD

[little osprey]

y no p400 a digital ?

at 2k price point i expect rgb

[narrow rose]

and I put a 3090 in mine

[mild violet]

plus bro do u really expect 3090 to be in stock??

[primal fox]

Why Intel over AMD or vice versa?

[narrow rose]

uh yeah eventually

[mild violet]

that's why i picked 2080s, 3090's rn are like trying to find diamonds

[little osprey]

Why Intel over AMD or vice versa?
@primal fox which price point ?

[lofty thicket]

@lofty thicket naw just price
@little osprey alright. Thanks so much!

[primal fox]

Either of those builds

Thanks, btw

[narrow rose]

I had to go intel for the 3090 to save money and hit that high clock speed

[mild violet]

Intel = more expensive, more fps, less "task efficient"
AMD = "cheaper", like 20fps less, more task efficient

[narrow rose]

yeah it depends on use case mine is what a gamer should spend 3k on

[primal fox]

so AMD would be best for video editing and graphic design software?

[mild violet]

i'd say yes

[small osprey]

Yea

[mild violet]

Intel is more for gaming

[primal fox]

Ok

[narrow rose]

but new amd cpus are dropping soon...

[mild violet]

right

[primal fox]

I’d like to try Warzone... but most the stuff I do is stream capture from@my iPhone into slobs

[narrow rose]

maybe they can OC over 5.3 on all cores maybe not

[lofty thicket]

I spent like 3k on my new stuff, but it included monitor and peripherals

[mild violet]

so i'd say wait for new Ryzen cpus and for the 3090 to be in stoick

[weak field]

3k?

[mild violet]

oh u need monitor too Spanky??

[weak field]

thats alot

[mild violet]

ong

[weak field]

b4 or after 30xx

[lofty thicket]

It was a bit under, but yeah a lot

[primal fox]

Nah, not at the moment

[mild violet]

ii

then look, if u need it NOW then go for mine or Nilboggen's

[weak field]

auegh

[mild violet]

but if u got time, wait for the Ryzen 5000 series and get a 3090, then u'd have god on ur side

[primal fox]

Ha! Nice

[narrow rose]

probably @mild violet s unless you can wait for the 3090 which does periodically come in and out of stock but youd have to work for it

[mild violet]

if u find a 3090 IN-STOCK then bruh might as well go and buy a lottery ticket or something

[still bay]

What is this where do I plug it in

[primal fox]

if u find a 3090 IN-STOCK then bruh might as well go and buy a lottery ticket or something
@mild violet that hard, huh?

[still bay]

What is this whete do I plug it in

[mild violet]

i've been looking like CRAZY for a 3070 but nope all of them are like 12 billion dollars each

[weak field]

ssd?

i think

[mild violet]

ig

[cursive magnet]

@stoic island You had said earlier that you had input on the cpu/mobo selection of mine. What is your opinion?

[weak field]

look similar

try

[still bay]

No it comes from my fan header

I think

[mild violet]

dam

[weak field]

uhh

[still bay]

Oh is it sata power

[mild violet]

i rly dont know im missing context and braincells here

[still bay]

It is isn’t it

[fervent oasis]

the first looks like the new USB front panel connector and the second is SATA power

[still bay]

There is nothing for the usb on my mobo

[mild violet]

BROOOO yh its sata the 1st one idk

[still bay]

But I plugged in the usb 3.0

Fans still don’t turn on

[mild violet]

im sorry my brain is running at 0.80ghz

[primal fox]

Thanks for the builds, guys... gives me a good starting point. Really appreciate it

[narrow rose]

looks like a usb 2.0 or earlier header and sata

[still bay]

So I don’t need to plug that in

[narrow rose]

well it probably controls the fan

[little osprey]

when building a pc theres a lot of things u dont need to plug in

hence why my hd audio is now sitting in my psu shroud

[fervent oasis]

you need to plug a sata power connector from the PSU into the 2nd pic from above

[narrow rose]

it seems like an old fan

[still bay]

I plugged in the sata power but fans are still off

[fervent oasis]

is there a fan controller?

[still bay]

Yes

[fervent oasis]

see if the fans are in the off position

[still bay]

What

[fervent oasis]

on the fan controller

[weak field]

here play this and it should work

[still bay]

I plugged in something coming from the fan hub into a port that just says USB

[weak field]

https://youtu.be/C5Gm8UvxKlU

[still bay]

There’s no on off button for fans

[weak field]

it should work if you play that

[fervent oasis]

have you plugged the fans into the motherboard, or are they already wired into the case fan hub?

[still bay]

Both

Well not into mobo

Ohhhh I’m an idiot

[fervent oasis]

figure something out?

[still bay]

Yes

[fervent oasis]

Are the fans working?

[still bay]

Still nothing

No

It could be an issue with wires I don’t have a GPU rn

Everything else I have

[fervent oasis]

no GPU?

[still bay]

None

Not til 5 more days

I dont know why fans aren’t turnin on I have the sata power plugged in

And I have them all plugged into a SYS_FAN slot on my mobo

Only issue is that there’s 2 things coming from the fan hub, one is sata power the other one is idk

[fervent oasis]

ok, well, it may be better to not turn it on until you do. You get lots of information from your boot screen

[still bay]

I just plugged it into a thing that said USB bc it fit

Ok

[fervent oasis]

do you have the CPU fan plugged into a CPU fan plug?

[still bay]

I think so the cpu fans doesn’t turn on tho

There’s 2 things, CPU_FAN and CPU_OPT

[fervent oasis]

use the CPU_FAN, the CPU_OPT is for an optional second fan

[still bay]

I dont know which is which since they are stacked

But my cpu fan doesn’t turn on

[fervent oasis]

it doesn't turn on when you turn the computer on?

[still bay]

Doesn’t turn on

[fervent oasis]

what doesn't turn on?

[still bay]

I also have a feeling that the issue is that there’s another cable coming from my fan header I’m not sure where to plug it into, only place it went is a thing that said USB

The fan

Only thing that turns on is my RAM RGB

Only evidence of working

[fervent oasis]

this happens when you turn the computer on, correct?

[still bay]

What does

[fervent oasis]

the RAM lighting up

[still bay]

Yes

Well when the power switch is on

Hang on I have an idea

[fervent oasis]

but the fans don't run?

[still bay]

Nope

Small chance I messed up IO ports

[fervent oasis]

ok, hold up

PC off. Ram lights up?

[still bay]

If psu switch is ok

On

[fervent oasis]

not what I am asking

the PSU starts with a momentary switch. what you are describing is a PC powered off.

fans will not run on a powered off PC

[still bay]

Yea doc

So

I flipped the io things so that the words are facing up

And now it’s nothing

[fervent oasis]

ok, so, since you don't have a graphics card yet, sounds like you are just wanting to play with your computer. I really advise you wait for the GPU and leave your computer alone until you have all the pieces.

[still bay]

Well it’s not my pc

[fervent oasis]

even worse

[still bay]

True that

I honestly don’t know what the issue is bc I have nothing rn

[fervent oasis]

rrn?

[still bay]

No like

I moved the io surff around so it’s facing upwards (the text) and now nothing is happening at all

Even the ram is off

The psu wasn’t plugged into the wall when I was doing it is there a chance I electric static it or w/e? I’m on carpet with socks on and like flannels and stuff

Didn’t really feel anything tho

Could it be the Asia horse extension cables!

?

[fervent oasis]

anytime you work with a computer, make sure you have one hand on the metal case. This should keep you grounded.

[still bay]

Ok a bit late for that bc the build is over

[fervent oasis]

I evidently came in late to your questions. What case and MB do you have?

[still bay]

4000X and a aorus

Wait let me see which board

The Aorus Elite

B550

Corsair 4000X

@fervent oasis

[fervent oasis]

researching, give me a couple

[still bay]

Ty

[fervent oasis]

the standard or the v2?

[odd crypt]

Hello

[fervent oasis]

aorus elite

[odd crypt]

Me gots a question

[still bay]

Umm

[fervent oasis]

ask away, someone may be able to help

[odd crypt]

Is this good?

[still bay]

GIGABYTE B550 AORUS Elite (AM4 AMD/B550/ATX/Dual M.2/SATA 6Gb/s/USB 3.2 Gen 2/2.5 GbE LAN/Realtek ALC1200/HDMI/DP/PCIe4.0/DDR4/Gaming Motherboard)

That one

[fervent oasis]

the $200 or the $400 board

[still bay]

200

But I t hi k it was less

More like 170

156 on Amazon

[fervent oasis]

@odd crypt not sure, but it is cheap enough I would never buy it. quality issues with cases that cheap

ok, got it ye

[odd crypt]

Well there are some good reviews

[still bay]

?

[odd crypt]

What bout this

[still bay]

Fine ig

[hazy rune]

Price is pretty sweet

[odd crypt]

Ik

Ones I wanna get are 60$

[fervent oasis]

I've never used Team memory, but I haven't heard bad about it.

[hazy rune]

I mean RAM is RAM

It only matters if you're overclocking I think

[fervent oasis]

ok, ye

I have both manuals up in front of me

[timid niche]

Hello

[fervent oasis]

Hi

[stoic island]

@cursive magnet I sent em earlier

Basically, sucky.

[cursive magnet]

@stoic island what would be your primo recommendation??

[stoic island]

I sent you a list didn't I...

[little osprey]

What psu would I need for a 5900x and a 3080

[prisma stag]

can someome help, just installed a pci extension cable from corsair for vertical mount gpu, and now that it is installed i have no display signal and have a solid red debug led on motherboard

[cursive magnet]

@stoic island I’m sorry if I’m being a pain with all the questions. If you were to step up any part of that build for future proofing, with about 500$ usd more head room, what would you do??

I really appreciate your time and help!!!

I don’t want to leave anything on the table. I have money now, but you never know how the future will be.....

[stoic island]

Yes

[prisma stag]

can you help me mr111

[weak field]

auegh

[stoic island]

@cursive magnet if talking about this list, basically nothing more lol
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hQ2j2V

[prisma stag]

pls

[little osprey]

Damn bro is going hard on ssd storage

I would personally get a higher end motherboard instead of all the storage

[shut fiber]

@stoic island why 500 bucks in ssds over a 5900x

[little osprey]

That’s not his list

[cosmic charm]

Is my EVGA 500 BR 80+ bronze enough if I upgrade to a 2070 super?

[stoic island]

hm?

@shut fiber because I was matching what the original list was

yea maybe get a 5800x

[prisma stag]

hey mr1111 can u help me please

[stoic island]

but other than the CPU

nothing else needs upgrading

[prisma stag]

can someome help, just installed a pci extension cable from corsair for vertical mount gpu, and now that it is installed i have no display signal and have a solid red debug led on motherboard

[weak field]

restart it

then try a different pcie slot

just might not be able to vertical mount it

[prisma stag]

ok ill try that one second

[weak field]

any kinks? check for that too

[little osprey]

Is there no talk about what the release time of the 5000 series will be yet?

[shut fiber]

@stoic island im prob getting a 5900x do u reccommend i get a 6000 series or wait for a 3080 or 3080 ti

[hazy rune]

@little osprey https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/jns570/zen_3_cpu_release_time_confirmed_by_amd/

Ask and ye shall receive

[stoic island]

wait for AMD GPUs to get reviewed

[prisma stag]

switched pci slots

didnt work

[little osprey]

Thank you sir

Very much appreciated

I’m also getting 5900x

Waiting on gpu reviews

[hazy rune]

You and everyone else

Good luck

[prisma stag]

mr111 can you help please

[stoic island]

@cursive magnet if swapping CPU:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zMNBcT

@prisma stag I don't deal with vGPU

so no

[prisma stag]

Ok

[stoic island]

if you're dealing with anything that's only meant to look good

I'm not the guy to ask

[hazy rune]

Did you try turning it off and turning it back on again?

[surreal ginkgo]

Can you guys gimme a good 1000 build

[little osprey]

So 5000 series is releasing 9am est?

[cosmic charm]

Is my EVGA 500 BR 80+ bronze enough if I upgrade to a 2070 super?

[little osprey]

Uhh what is the watt rating of the gpu, and what cpu are you running

[hazy rune]

@cosmic charm GPU is only one component. What's your cpu? H

Do you have a pcp list?

[cosmic charm]

Yeah

[hazy rune]

And why 2070 super if I may ask? 2000 series GPUs are so overpriced right now

[little osprey]

Is the difference between cl16 or cl14 noticeable from a c18 ram

[hazy rune]

Generally, no

[little osprey]

So upgrading from c18 ram is not really that big of a deal?

[hazy rune]

https://www.crucial.com/articles/about-memory/difference-between-speed-and-latency

[little osprey]

Thanks

For the article

[hazy rune]

RAM is not usually worth upgrading

Unless you need more capacity

I'm still running 2400Mhz CL15 RAM

[stoic island]

Ryzen

[cosmic charm]

It’s because I’m getting it for like 1/10 the price from my brother because he’s upgrading to a 3080 whenever they are ever in stock

[little osprey]

So cl18 at 3600mhz would be more or less equivalent to c16 at 3200mhz?

[stoic island]

For Ryzen, no

theoretically, yes.

[cosmic charm]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xjdWXb

[stoic island]

eek

[cosmic charm]

That’s the list but with my current 1660 super

[little osprey]

I’m building ryzen, which is why I’m asking

[cosmic charm]

Instead of the 2070 super

[little osprey]

I got c18 @3600

[stoic island]

@cosmic charm so you own a 1660 super?

[hazy rune]

New or old power supply @cosmic charm

[stoic island]

Do you already own 3600c18?

[cosmic charm]

New

[hazy rune]

So you haven't bought it yet

[little osprey]

Yeah, 8x2

[stoic island]

What have you bought/own @cosmic charm ?

[little osprey]

Already bought

[stoic island]

@little osprey leave it then

give a list for everything you have if possible

[little osprey]

I mean I could return it and get c16

[cosmic charm]

Used I guess then

I just built my pc like 2 weeks ago

[little osprey]

Idk if it’s worth the struggle tho

[stoic island]

not really if it's wonky

wait

[hazy rune]

@cosmic charm I'd say that's too close for comfort

I'd return the psu and get a better one

[stoic island]

I'd get a BR600w for like 2$ more

at least

[cosmic charm]

Ok

[stoic island]

500w feels a bit close

like this if you want to keep with BR
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07DTP6QKG

[cosmic charm]

Thanks

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/un1coale/saved/#view=T7yNcf

Thoughts on this build?

[stoic island]

no

the answer is no

[little osprey]

[fervent oasis]

AlexK, are you going to OC the CPU?

[polar anvil]

which is better for gaming intel or ryzen

[little osprey]

Yessir

[stoic island]

@little osprey did you make the list or no

[little osprey]

Yeah

[fervent oasis]

you may want to rethink the PSU. in 2 years, with capacitor aging, you may have to replace it

[stoic island]

... what's with the weird pricing then?

[polar anvil]

which is better for gaming intel or ryzen

[little osprey]

Weird pricing?

[stoic island]

I thought you took someone's finished build

[sharp tundra]

Intel currently, but ryzen is quickly becoming better

[stoic island]

like

wat

[little osprey]

The pricing is including taxes

In my area at least