building-and-recc-chat

[copper summit]

thanks guys

[stoic island]

welp, to start off at 500$.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9BTW3Z

slimming down from here is gonna get interesting

[copper summit]

yes

[polar kite]

that was quick

[stoic island]

@copper summit any possibility of checking the used market for a GPU?

[copper summit]

that is my problem

i mean i could

[stoic island]

~100$ should get you like a 580

which would make that work

I personally wouldn't go any lower than what's in that list

[copper summit]

om yea

i could go ssd instead of m.2

[stoic island]

You'd be surprised how cheap that P1 actually is

it's actually cheaper than good 2.5in SSDs with dram

[sturdy root]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

best i could do

[polar kite]

i have the 1tb version of that its so cheap and good

[stoic island]

@sturdy root wrong link

[sturdy root]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/22bvfP

couldnt find a case

i went over, but fit in the essentials

[stoic island]

lol

I had a case in at same price

but oh well

cost saving measures were inevitable

[sturdy root]

i mean you can find a used case pretty cheap

just not on pcpartpicker

craigslist is a crazy place but damn you can bargain

[copper summit]

oh well

thanks

[stoic island]

betting on the used market is your choice to make

[sturdy root]

going to go work on school crap

[fleet pagoda]

Im gonna go to a vocation school next year pog

[stoic island]

you're kind of forced to get bits of it used if you want a good build at 500$

[sturdy root]

you're kind of forced to get bits of it used if you want a good build at 500$
@stoic island exactly

[languid burrow]

Would it be smart to upgrade my 3600 to a 5600X when they launch?

[fallen harbor]

anyone know builds with low budgets for triple A game streamng

[stoic island]

hm?

what's funny about it

@fallen harbor really depends on what you call "budget" though

@delicate zinc so what?

[sullen spoke]

quad core fine for some things

[stoic island]

it's still good for budget gaming

[sullen spoke]

I still have one pc that 2core that is run 24/7

[stoic island]

F@H or smth?

[fallen harbor]

im putting away 1400 for a budget i have most parts such as a case and harddrives just was wonder what i should get with the remaineder of my budget

[sullen spoke]

nah media server mostly, along with a few other stuff

[stoic island]

ah

uh

when building

and what exactly do you already have?

[fallen harbor]

i have just a basic case for atx and 256 gb ssd and a 1 tb hdd and i should be getting a psu in soon

[stoic island]

hm

what psu

could get new ssd too

[fallen harbor]

650

[stoic island]

I need model

[fallen harbor]

oh one sec

[weak field]

this is a decent build yes?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XPvK3Z

[stoic island]

no

it isn't

:P

[fallen harbor]

https://www.amazon.ca/Corsair-CP-9020132-NA-TX650M-Modular-Supply/dp/B01N18J52E/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=650w&qid=1604369623&s=electronics&sr=1-2

thats the psu

[stoic island]

alright txm is fine

so you need a 1400CAD build without psu/case/storage?

[fallen harbor]

yes

i should have ram sticks around so i dont think ill need those either

mostly mbo cooling cpu and gpu

[stoic island]

alright

[fallen harbor]

my old pc hit the bed so i thought it was about time to upgrde

was looking into a 2600x build with a 570 or 1660

[stoic island]

I'm thinking 3600+stock cooler+ like B550m pro4, with a RTX 3070

[fallen harbor]

but that would eat most my budget

[stoic island]

well

we have different ideas of the budget then lmao

[fallen harbor]

yours should prob better

[polar anvil]

Need 600 pc build

[stoic island]

smth like this
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/xJNGqp

[fast monolith]

Weeboo 1400 for the entire build or the gpu?

[fallen harbor]

@fast monolith mbo cpu gpu and cooling

[stoic island]

hmm

[fast monolith]

1400 is a good price

[fallen harbor]

i might do liquid cooling

[stoic island]

lemme see what for cooler

[fast monolith]

You could get like a 2070 super

[polar anvil]

Should I wait for Black Friday to build my 600 pc and any suggestions

[stoic island]

3070 way better than 2070s >:P

black friday good wait.

[fast monolith]

1400 is not really good for water cooling but you could trying

[fallen harbor]

also im not scared to get used parts if i need to

[stoic island]

don't get used parts when you don't have to

[gentle cosmos]

Sorry to burst into this, but I have a separate question. Or rather a couple.

[stoic island]

go ahead

do the thing

[fallen harbor]

true

[stoic island]

and tbh

I don't like water cooling

who wants a chance of water in your pc

[fast monolith]

You could get a 3070 or like a used 1080 to

[stoic island]

a good reliable air cooler performs nearly as well

[fast monolith]

Ti*

[stoic island]

1080ti is nowhere near 3070 perf either lol

[gentle cosmos]

Do any of you expect the AMD GPUs to have the same problems of bots and price gaugers buying up stock like nvidia launches had?

[fallen harbor]

my last build was air cooled it laster 6 months than broke

[gentle cosmos]

Also same question but with the Ryzen 5000

[fast monolith]

But it still does the job

[stoic island]

@gentle cosmos who knows until it launches, but I would say yes

[fallen harbor]

ig i also put it under alot of work load

[stoic island]

@fallen harbor broke from what

[polar anvil]

So nobody has 600 dollar build

[stoic island]

because I doubt it was the cooling that was the issue

[fast monolith]

And 3070s are no where to be found new

[stoic island]

unless you tried to cool it by pouring water on it or smth

[gentle cosmos]

Guess I’ll just have to step up my game on trying to get one

[stoic island]

@fast monolith I'd still suggest 3070 whenever possible

[fallen harbor]

well when i had the pc at 90C most the time from work load it might of been cooling

[stoic island]

it's much better

[gentle cosmos]

Had a 3070 in my cart at launch but went out of stock before I could purchase

[fast monolith]

I know but stock is hard to find

[stoic island]

90c under load uhhhh

[gentle cosmos]

Only have a phone right now to use since my computer bit the dust

[stoic island]

intel stock cooler?

[fallen harbor]

i burnt myself 1 to many times

and no it was the fx 8350 cooler

[stoic island]

oh yea

[polar anvil]

600 dollar build for 1080 p high refresh rate @stoic island

[fast monolith]

Weeboo so are you looking for aesthetics and performance or just one of them?

[stoic island]

bulldozer were heaters lol

eh

think I might have a 600$ build somewhere

lazy to make build

[polar anvil]

Please

[fallen harbor]

both would be nice lunney im looking to stream on it for some triple A like apex and csgo but still be able to program and host my discord bots when needed wit little breaks

[weak field]

high refresh rate or fps?

the refresh rate is the monitor spec

[polar anvil]

I want a pc that will run 144hz

Budget 600

[weak field]

on high settings???

[polar anvil]

No competitive

[fast monolith]

600 dollars won’t run 144 that well

[weak field]

competitive id mixed

is

depends on what there turned too

[polar anvil]

So pretty much low setting

[fast monolith]

If your talking about used sure but 600 is gonna struggle on some demanding games

[fallen harbor]

600$ runs 45hz great

[stoic island]

@polar anvil
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wRHxcT

good nuff

[weak field]

its possible

[vital warren]

600 is fine for whatever esport

[stoic island]

comp settings comp games 1650s does fine

[polar anvil]

I mostly play fortnite

So it’s not that demanding

[weak field]

dies internally

[fast monolith]

A fortnite kid. No I’m just kidding

[stoic island]

so yea

that one works

[polar anvil]

For 144hz

[fast monolith]

You want a pc that runs 144hz not frames?

[stoic island]

lol

[fast monolith]

That’s called a monitor

[stoic island]

it works with low settings prob

look it up

[weak field]

600$ budget for a monitor

easy

[fallen harbor]

anyways ima go look into those parts you showed me mr and see wha ti can do with the remaining 300 ill prob look at a new case or new storage prob m.2 if it compatable

[weak field]

1080p, 1440p or 4k

[stoic island]

I can give you a good m.2 ssd if you want

[polar anvil]

@fast monolith yes that can reach 144 frames

[fast monolith]

Or 8k

[fallen harbor]

is the board you showed good for m.2?

[cerulean burrow]

What if I lightly sanded my case fan blades to make them diffused for rgb?

[fast monolith]

@fallen harbor it really depends on sales and prices at the time

Oof not you

My bad weeboo I meant @polar anvil

[fallen harbor]

true i might save ill cyber monday or lack friday

black*

[stoic island]

@summer crystal Alright, can you go to Nvidia Control panel?

[summer crystal]

@stoic island how?

[fast monolith]

Do you have it downloaded?

[stoic island]

You can right click on the desktop

[summer crystal]

Yes
I
Don't
know

[fallen harbor]

@stoic island thanks for show the pcpp ill keep those in mind its getting late now and i got to work tmr morning so im hit the sacks thanks again

[stoic island]

and there should be an option that says "Nvidia Control Panel"

@fallen harbor alright good luck, I'll go link you a good 1tb m.2 drive in a sec.

I never recommend drives without dram :P

[fallen harbor]

the mbo you showed doesnt work for m.2 so might have to switch the mbo later on

[fast monolith]

What?

[stoic island]

here
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/zR3H99/adata-sx8200-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-asx8200pnp-1tt-c

@fallen harbor excuse me?

you sure?

[fast monolith]

Where’s the mobo?

[summer crystal]

I am in Nvidia control panel

[fallen harbor]

the b450m doesnt use m.2 does it?

when i was looking it didnt seem to use one

[stoic island]

Didn't I put a B550m pro vdh wifi in your list?

[fallen harbor]

@delicate zinc yes

[stoic island]

It has 2 M.2 slots supporting NVMe

[fast monolith]

Why are you getting a b450 for 1400$ pc??

[stoic island]

@summer crystal there should be a "manage 3d settings"

[fallen harbor]

i saw b450m ill look again

[stoic island]

and then global settings

[summer crystal]

@stoic island yes

[fallen harbor]

nvm im stupid i must of clicked something you did put the 55m

[stoic island]

Click on it

[fallen harbor]

550m*

[fast monolith]

You could get like a b550

[stoic island]

there should be a section that's like "preferred graphics processor"

[summer crystal]

@stoic island yep

[fallen harbor]

thanks again mr1111 ima go bed now

[hearty mist]

my friends pc has been sitting in the basement for almost a year now, it was perfectly fine before but now when he tries to open up a page it takes like 5 mins. what do u guys think the problem is?

[fast monolith]

Intense amount of dust in a basement

[stoic island]

Click on it, and then it should say something like "Auto, Nvidia graphics processor, integrated graphics processor"

[hearty mist]

i cleaned it already

[stoic island]

and choose the Nvidia graphics processor

[fast monolith]

I was kidding

What are the specs?

[stoic island]

@hearty mist ssd

[fast monolith]

I was thinking the same thing

[hearty mist]

@fast monolith even if u were bro srsly the dust in that thing was unbelievable

[plucky needle]

i99900k 12tb nvme ssd 64gbs ram, dual 3090,

[trail shuttle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/FlamingPhoenix07/saved/#view=fkcsLk any suggestions

[fast monolith]

Lol

[weak field]

@stoic island theres cheaper m.2 nvme 1tb ssd

[summer crystal]

@stoic island thanks for help i will try now

[stoic island]

Alright

@weak field cad pricing

[fast monolith]

What’s the specs on it? @hearty mist

[plucky needle]

Hate to break it to ya, but there is no way 550w psu is enough

[inland parrot]

is this a good ssd https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hTzkcf/team-l5-lite-3d-1tb-25-solid-state-drive-t253td001t3c101

[hearty mist]

Click on it, and then it should say something like "Auto, Nvidia graphics processor, integrated graphics processor"
@stoic island click on what

[plucky needle]

holy hell @trail shuttle

[stoic island]

@inland parrot decent enough

[hearty mist]

oh nvm

[stoic island]

it's got dram iirc

[fast monolith]

He’s not talking to you

[trail shuttle]

? @plucky needle

[plucky needle]

Ur PSU is not nearly enough for a 3070

[fast monolith]

@hearty mist what are specs!!!!!

[inland parrot]

nice becasue I am about to order it becasue I have amazon discount

[stoic island]

@plucky needle uh

550w is enough

wdym "there's no way it's enough"

[inland parrot]

since I work at amazon

[plucky needle]

FOR A 3070?

[stoic island]

YES

[plucky needle]

Isnt that a 300w card?

[stoic island]

no

220w TDP

smh

[trail shuttle]

wdym @plucky needle

[stoic island]

read up on your TDPs

[plucky needle]

Ohhhhh, thats a 3080 right

[weak field]

auegh

[hearty mist]

@hearty mist what are specs!!!!!
@fast monolith 8700k 2080

[stoic island]

@trail shuttle 550w works fine.

chill

I'd suggest a B550 board, like a B550 phantom gaming 4 at 100$ right now.

[trail shuttle]

have any suggestions @stoic island

[fast monolith]

@fast monolith 8700k 2080
@hearty mist it could be ssd

[coarse path]

hey is the ryzen 3100 any good?

[stoic island]

and I would get a bigger SSD, NVMe if possible, like a Crucial P1 500gb at 53$

mhm, that's my 2 main things I see

[plucky needle]

^That or imo, I think a b450 is worth it more because it can still support 5th gen if Im not mistaken. They are also considerably cheaper

Just get one with decent VRMs

[stoic island]

what

@plucky needle look at the pricing

[plucky needle]

Ryzen

[stoic island]

look at b550 phantom gaming 4

:P

[plucky needle]

Ok sure, but why not just get a cheapo b450 and call it a day?

[stoic island]

and why would you

[trail shuttle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/FlamingPhoenix07/saved/#view=fkcsLk have any suggestions

[stoic island]

when you could have PCIe 4.0 at near the same price

[trail shuttle]

plz healp

[plucky needle]

I mean pcie 4.0 doesnt make that much of a diff

tbh

[stoic island]

Yes I gave suggestions @trail shuttle

@plucky needle future proofing

[plucky needle]

I guesse

[stoic island]

and B550 PG4 just has good features at 100$ too

[plucky needle]

tru

[stoic island]

ALC1200, dual M.2 with NVMe

[plucky needle]

There is the benefit of 4.0 ssd

[wintry gust]

hey mr1111. Naed said to go for a ryzen processor but... the one he said to get is sold out. Should i go for the 3900xt or the 3900 for 420ish.. its the same price 'ish' of the one sold out: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor

[coarse path]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/FlamingPhoenix07/saved/#view=fkcsLk have any suggestions
@trail shuttle I would say get a m.2 nvme

[plucky needle]

But in terms of gpu, a 3080 can run with minimal bottlenecking on pcie 2.0

[stoic island]

direct io is going to be interesting in the future

@wintry gust it's not sold out, it's not released yet lol

[wintry gust]

ohhhhh lol

[stoic island]

@plucky needle I kinda really doubt that

[plucky needle]

I saw a vid online

[wintry gust]

when does it release?

[stoic island]

link it

[trail shuttle]

Yes I gave suggestions @trail shuttle
@stoic island instead os the sphynix ssd

[stoic island]

I think 5th

[plucky needle]

lemme find it

[stoic island]

what

?

why not a P1 500gb

[plucky needle]

I found one for a 5700xt, and a 3080 is roughly double that

so.

[stoic island]

...

that ain't how it works

[weak field]

dog, i wanna play some bo3 zombies

is this decent for thst

[stoic island]

and with TPU testing, there is reason to believe a RTX 3080 actually benefits from PCIe 4.0 over 3.0 @plucky needle

[plucky needle]

But there is no bottleneck

[weak field]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XPvK3Z
dont take this serious

[plucky needle]

But by how much? Not really that much

[stoic island]

check their testing on 3900xt+3080 vs 10900k+3080 on some 4k titles

[plucky needle]

2%at most

[stoic island]

We know that 3900xt falls behind 10900k in games

[plucky needle]

yeah

thats pre obvious

[stoic island]

yet it pulls quite close

in 4k, where bandwidth matters more

I'll go find some rq

[plucky needle]

Thats cuz in 4k it is about the gpu more than cpu

[stoic island]

isn't that the point....

[trail shuttle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/FlamingPhoenix07/saved/#view=rZxv3C better @stoic island

[stoic island]

I'll just edit it real quick

[plucky needle]

wait u were talking to me?

Ohhh

[trail shuttle]

ok bet @stoic island

[plucky needle]

Just forget i said what I said, I was a bit confused.

[astral swift]

If I use blender, would going Nvidia 3000 series be worth it over AMD's navi release

[trail shuttle]

@ me in it tho @stoic island

[plucky needle]

Not really because correct me if I am wrong, but doesnt more vram = better performance in blender?

[stoic island]

U12s is placeholder, but @trail shuttle
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bGYJfP

[plucky needle]

I might be totally off

[stoic island]

@astral swift we won't know until people do testing

[astral swift]

yeah ill have to wait for tests, but even the Radeon 7 is not optimized enough for blender atm @plucky needle

[plucky needle]

But isnt it confirmed that 6900xt will have 16gbs of vram

True

[astral swift]

and it has 16 gb hbm2

[stoic island]

no

new gpus have G6

no RDNA2 GPUs have HBM2

[astral swift]

so i wouldnt say it relies solely on vram

[plucky needle]

I guess

[stoic island]

While Nvidia has G6x on 3080 and 3090

[plucky needle]

U may as well get the 3090 then

^depends on how much u are willing to spend

But overall is more vram=more performance

?

[astral swift]

I mean tbf it's only for light college course work, Im not majoring in professional design

[stoic island]

I'd still wait for testing

who the hell knows until people test it

[astral swift]

aight sounds good

[stoic island]

I'll be watching GN

[plucky needle]

@astral swift regardless, it is pretty obvious that as of right now 6800xt is a much better value than 3070 or 3080

[stoic island]

who knows

[plucky needle]

And remember, leaks said it comes out to be close to 3090 even

[stoic island]

we'd have to see when we actually get good testing

[astral swift]

yeah but that's only for gaming and prob dx ones

[stoic island]

leaks are only leaks

[plucky needle]

Yeah

[astral swift]

im more concerned with CAD based programs and Blender

[plucky needle]

But leaks are rarely far off from the truth

[stoic island]

I mean

[plucky needle]

I say just get the better optimised card

[astral swift]

since like an extra 10 frames in-game doesnt concern me as much

[plucky needle]

*rarely

[stoic island]

remember some of the other leaks we've had

:P

[plucky needle]

Hahaa

[stoic island]

I'd like that 16 core per ccx ryzen chip now please

[plucky needle]

hahaa

me too

and the 8 core 5600x

lmaoo

what about the 10 core 5900x

[stoic island]

what were leaks saying, like 32 cores on the 5950x?

smth like that

[plucky needle]

Nah

It was 20 cores for that

[stoic island]

yea 20 cores

[plucky needle]

lool

I wish

doesnt intel's i7 7970x have like 13 cores

I mean 18

and i meant 7980x

[astral swift]

they're kinda killing threadripper at this point then

[plucky needle]

lool what an odd number

not reall

[astral swift]

with consumer grade

[weak field]

stop stop stop hes already dead

[plucky needle]

7980x is not really a consumer chip

[astral swift]

talking about amd's 20 core

[plucky needle]

and threadripper has better gaming performance

nah it was a leak

lool

a fake one

[astral swift]

do you really think most people who buy threadrippers think games first

[plucky needle]

No, but they might think about single core

which is why i mentioned games

cuz yk

[astral swift]

which threadripper doesnt lead in?

doesnt Ryzen 5th gen lead single core perf now, or at least to leaks

[plucky needle]

Yeah

And apparently official news too

[inland parrot]

i just bought this today https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mwrYcf/seagate-barracuda-computer-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm008

[plucky needle]

apparently Ryzen 5th (technically 4th) gen has around 2-3% better single core performance than 10900k according to AMD

how much @inland parrot

[inland parrot]

i bought it from newegg

[weak field]

how much did you pay

[inland parrot]

$54.99

[stoic island]

good

[weak field]

nice

[astral swift]

yeah thats p good

[weak field]

2tb for 55$

[inland parrot]

yup

[astral swift]

i remember not a while ago 1 tb was that price

[inland parrot]

2 tb

[trail shuttle]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/FlamingPhoenix07/saved/ the final thing u like ????????????????????????/

[weak field]

yup

no

change the psu

[inland parrot]

its on sale right now and it ends in 5 hours

[weak field]

30xx series need atleast 750w+

or thats recommended

[stoic island]

wdym

[astral swift]

really? i thought a 650 gold would do

[stoic island]

no it's not

[trail shuttle]

ya

thats what i thought

and so did like three discord servers

[stoic island]

@weak field tell that to I think it was sporks that ran a 3080 off a 450w psu

[inland parrot]

now all i have left is the cpu, gpu and power supply @stoic island

[stoic island]

:P

[astral swift]

did he use a pentium to run it with or smth

[weak field]

finna turn into a thermaltake smart in a couple weeks

[stoic island]

don't remember

he ran it for fun iirc and took it out afterwards

[fast monolith]

Any good rgb fans with software to control the rgb but isn’t overpriced

[astral swift]

because a 3080 on a 450w psu is kinda insane

[stoic island]

what about non-rgb fans

[astral swift]

^

[stoic island]

and what about hardware to control the fans >:D

the fanciest thing you've ever seen

that tiny thing

theoretically can drive 100 fans

control them all at once with the knob at the top

[astral swift]

what is this? avatar airbender controlling the fans blasphemy

100 fans too 😂

[plucky needle]

Remember Jay and Linus who both needed <1000w psus to run a single 3080?

[stoic island]

yes

[plucky needle]

because of the power spikes

[stoic island]

why not

[plucky needle]

That is why I thought 550 is too less for a 3070

[stoic island]

lol

but you gotta look at TDP :P

220w tdp for 3070

[astral swift]

^

yeah

[plucky needle]

Yeah but tdp is never exactly accurate - I saw that 3070 spikes to around 300-350 in peak

[stoic island]

and as long as your PSU doesn't like to trip with high transient response gpus, spikes don't matter

remember, any half decent PSU can handle 10% overload, even 20% without any issue

[plucky needle]

If a titanium 1000w unit can trip i think a 550w bronze can

350 is much higher than 20 percent

[stoic island]

hm? tripping depends on the PSU

[plucky needle]

it is close to 30 percent

[stoic island]

you know what overload is right

it means going over rated wattage

[plucky needle]

Ok but the titanium rated ones are the cream of the crop, and if those cant keep up idk what will

yes

But can psus/gpus hold 30% above rated wattage for even a spike

[stoic island]

and that comment was for PSUs like this

and btw

[plucky needle]

Ah

[stoic island]

80+ rating doesn't mean crap for quality :P

[plucky needle]

I guess

but 80+ does show the efficiency of the psus

[stoic island]

and do remember, 65w CPU draw, ~100w total rest of system draw, leaving like 400w of room for the GPU

[plucky needle]

greater than 65

cuz of spikes

[stoic island]

CPU TDP stays pretty constant on stock

[summer crystal]

@stoic island thanks it worked for me and my friend. Wish you luck

[plucky needle]

hmmm

[stoic island]

@summer crystal have a good day.

@plucky needle I'm pretty sure 3600 has max power at 65w on stock

[finite lark]

Trustable windows 10 websites?

[plucky needle]

CPU tdp is a very controversial subject cuz it is based on the company as to what they say

Depends if u wanna overclock or not

[stoic island]

mostly from Intel being dumb

and doing turbo clocks and crap

[plucky needle]

What was the cpu cooler he was going to use?

True i guess, but I doubt amd is very accurate either

[stoic island]

I'll go find GN power draw now

[plucky needle]

i remember u12-hs or something

[pliant beacon]

is this a good 800 dollar build

[plucky needle]

and with that he can easily oc to 4.1 - 4.2

why did u remove it

[pliant beacon]

it removes it automatically

[plucky needle]

hmmm.

do it once more

[pliant beacon]

click quick

[plucky needle]

got it

[stoic island]

NH-U12s?

[plucky needle]

for christs sake use pcpart picker

Yeah

ok that makes sense

yeah maybe

it might work, but I wouldnt want to risk black screening

especially with the shady return policies with covid

[stoic island]

oh and here's tom's hardware with synthetic testing with power draw

pretty close to TDP

[finite lark]

Trustable windows 10 websites?

[trail shuttle]

youtube.com

newegg.ocm

com

[stoic island]

ebay.com

[trail shuttle]

sterlingmcal.com

[finite lark]

How can you trust the people on ebay

[trail shuttle]

idk ask them

[stoic island]

it's called buyer's protection

if you get scammed

tell ebay to give you your money back

ez

[finite lark]

True

[trail shuttle]

faxxx

[finite lark]

Is the Stock ryzen cooler good enough

[trail shuttle]

yes

[finite lark]

Nice

[trail shuttle]

its better and looks better than intel

s stock one

[finite lark]

Intel one does look sucky

[trail shuttle]

ikr

[little osprey]

500$ full pc build with desktop?

[gray stone]

Newbie CPU question: When it comes to overall efficiency and work, is the 3600 or its X varient better?

[trail shuttle]

3600

[little osprey]

X

[trail shuttle]

pretty sure

[little osprey]

Idk why

[trail shuttle]

x is released before

[little osprey]

Hmm

[trail shuttle]

and worse and more expensive

and then they release the normal one

idk

thats what i think

[stoic island]

3600 is a lower binned 3600x

lower tdp

worse stock cooler.

But still works great.

[trail shuttle]

which

one

[stoic island]

buy 3600

3600x not worth the like 200mhz clock increase lol

[gray stone]

Ah, alrighty. That'll be useful for the future

As long as I don't do overclocking with it, the stock cooler it comes with should be fine, right?

If I wanted it, then I'd get something like a Noctua Fan

[trail shuttle]

LTT

edition

bet

for the noctua

fans

[stoic island]

[little osprey]

i have my 3600 at 3.9 with a hyper 212 and it dosent go above 70

[stoic island]

If you don't care about looks

[trail shuttle]

sad

[stoic island]

there's a lot of other good cheaper options

[trail shuttle]

but its just so much better

[stoic island]

starting with Gammaxx 400 at 25$, beating NH-U12s even at times.

[sullen spoke]

stock

[stoic island]

Then Mugen 5 rev 5, decent.

[sullen spoke]

[stoic island]

Then Scythe Ninja 5/Fuma 2, just half a step down from NH-D15/DRP4 at 70$.

[trail shuttle]

?????/

[plucky needle]

Yeah

[stoic island]

But with buying Noctua, you get that great fan lifespan, you get stickers, you get better warranty, and you get free upgrading brackets for any future platforms.

[plucky needle]

Personally scythe ninja looks way better than noctuas

I guesss

But tbh noctua is just more hype at this point

sure its quiet, but so are others

[gray stone]

And with a Ryzen 5 3600, what are GPUs that get bottlenecked by it?

[plucky needle]

Hardly anything

Unless u want a 3090

[gray stone]

Which that isn't happening lol

[stoic island]

@gray stone bottlenecking is an interesting term

[plucky needle]

3090 might have 1-2%bottleneck

yeah

[stoic island]

that question will get a very large selection of answers

from different people

[plucky needle]

Yeah

[stoic island]

at the end of the day, it's the best GPU you can get and a decent CPU for your budget.

[plucky needle]

The more likely bottleneck will be the GPU

[stoic island]

(for gaming at least)

[plucky needle]

If u want a 3000 series card it is better to get an intel or wait for 5000 series just because in that range all u wnat is more fps

[digital pecan]

Can someone make a good gaming pc list for under 1k? And ping me once you have one pls 🙂

[gray stone]

I mean, for a long time, if you wanted to get a gaming PC, then Intel was the answer as much as they sucked with their pricing. For a more all-around PC with some content creating capabilities, AMD works well enough lol

[plucky needle]

Think about it, realistically unless you want to do gaming at 4k or RTX, you may as well buy a high-end last gen card that is used

Cuz my 5700xt gets me 240 fps on overwatch maxed out 1080p, around 170 on fortnite maxed out, around 400 on csgo maxed out

Those are common games

[gray stone]

Fair. As I had said earlier on, the most intensive games I'd play would be like XCOM 2 and A Hat in Time lol

[plucky needle]

For benchmarks look at SOTTR benchmarks

[trail shuttle]

do u get the wraith prism RGB with ryzen 5 3600

[plucky needle]

No

[trail shuttle]

stock cooler

no

[gaunt vortex]

used last gen cards cost more then their MSRP right now

[plucky needle]

that comes with 3700x

[gaunt vortex]

So, ya know,

[plucky needle]

2700x

Not true at all

U can get a 2080ti for around 500 usd

[trail shuttle]

whats better 2700x

or the 3600

[plucky needle]

so idk what u are talking about

[trail shuttle]

?

ryzen

cpus

[gray stone]

Though I'd love to record those games at least up to 60 FPS, it doesn't matter if it's 1080p or even 720p, though the more stable at 1080p the better

[gaunt vortex]

I looked last night. they're over $1000 on a lot of retail sites new, and used cards on ebay still have bids over $800

Sure, you might find a good deal somewhere

[trail shuttle]

what stock cooler comes with the ryzen 5 3600

[gaunt vortex]

But people are just wildly throwing money around right now

[plucky needle]

hmm

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-RTX-2080-TI-11GB-GDDR6-11G-P4-2484-KR-Warranty-525-days/274557715972?epid=24030513942&hash=item3fecea4604:g:9mYAAOSwvQdfjiS1

[gray stone]

Considering the 3070 got destroyed, yeah more people are going to try to find the 2080 ti's

[plucky needle]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-11GB-GDDR6-OC-Gaming-Graphics-Card/303747949765?hash=item46b8c9e4c5:g:JVUAAOSwmx9fndRM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-11G-P4-2281-KR-GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-Black-Edition-Gaming-11GB-GDDR6/193734777179?epid=21031091016&hash=item2d1b7e195b:g:-dMAAOSwtkNflYVj

[gaunt vortex]

Yeah, all of those have 4 days left and no/low bids

[trail shuttle]

what stock cooler comes with the ryzen 5 3600 is it the wraith prism rgb

[gaunt vortex]

That means nothing

starting price is useless

[plucky needle]

Ok, but like a month ago I saw them for hella cheap buy now

[stoic island]

no

it's the Wraith stealth

[trail shuttle]

what stock cooler comes with the ryzen 5 3600 @stoic island

[stoic island]

I just answered smh

[trail shuttle]

srrly i didnt see wher

e

[plucky needle]

I think wraith stealth or wraith stealth with the backlit amd logo

[gaunt vortex]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-11GB-AORUS-XTREME-WATERFORCE/402512022361?epid=17030647884&hash=item5db7960b59:g:yqgAAOSwJWhflCaM

[gaunt vortex]

770, with $50 shipping

[gray stone]

I won't buy until I can certainly get the funds for the parts myself, but I want to still plan forward for it since it can still be relevant even a few more years down the line

[agile sonnet]

hey guys, would a noctua cooler be efficient enough for a ryzen7 5700x? running a 3 fan front intake with a 1 rear 1 top exhaust in a corsair 465x case with an asus 3080.

[little osprey]

Guys I am planning to build a RTX 3070 Pc for 1000$ can anyone suggest me parts pls

[plucky needle]

That's just dumb that people are paying that much when u can get something way better for same price

[stoic island]

why not

[plucky needle]

Yes

[stoic island]

is great

I escape now

[plucky needle]

Agreed

[stoic island]

before people rope me into making more lists

[plucky needle]

haha

[stoic island]

too tired

[plucky needle]

Also @stoic island

[stoic island]

wat

[plucky needle]

Can u make me a cheap 3070 list for under 1100 usd

thx

[stoic island]

no

[plucky needle]

lmao jk

haha

[stoic island]

I'm too tired to make list

[plucky needle]

haha

[azure quartz]

no ❤️

[still roost]

ArmaaniiBoi#7294 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[plucky needle]

wth

And it warned me

[agile sonnet]

would that cooler be good enough even with OC on the ryzen 7?

[plucky needle]

lmaoo

Forgot this was newegg

[little osprey]

LMAOOO

haha

[plucky needle]

yes

if it can do 5ghz on a 10900k i am pre sure that the ryzen 7 will be a breeze

[stoic island]

Noctua NH-U12s is a start

anything that or above

NH-U14s is nice

[little osprey]

I am planning to build a RTX 3070 Pc for 1000$ or even 1100$ can anyone suggest me parts tomorrow?

[stoic island]

or a NH-D15s

@little osprey chances are, you're not getting it tomorrow.

[plucky needle]

Haha

[twilit idol]

Some of you have the crustiest fans I’ve ever seen

[stoic island]

3070 stock is

[plucky needle]

Chances are you are not getting it until at least 2 months from now

[stoic island]

eh

[versed rock]

OC'ing Ryzen is an exercise in futility

[stoic island]

meh

[plucky needle]

@versed rock not true

[stoic island]

@versed rock tbh the "oc" most people want is to just turn on pbo in bios

[plucky needle]

Just auto oc, and it works like a charm

[quasi snow]

Unless you get lucky with a nearby microcenter

[stoic island]

or use CTR

[little osprey]

i mean i am not getting it tomorrow but I am just planning for it

[plucky needle]

yeah

[stoic island]

despite cinebench not being good stress test

[plucky needle]

haha

tru

[versed rock]

I mean, I use PBO in Ryzen Master.

That isn't really an OC

[stoic island]

yea me too

[plucky needle]

just launch heaven for 24 hours

and u gud

[stoic island]

but it does the OC most of those people want

[twilit idol]

Yo who wants to make a pepto bismol cooled pc

[plucky needle]

yes it does

[stoic island]

you wanna see a vodka cooled PC

[twilit idol]

This case will do with it

[stoic island]

because that's been done before

[twilit idol]

Pepto pc

[plucky needle]

Yes vodka cooled pc, ruski go brrrrr

I love that case

[stoic island]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYTJfLyo_vE

[twilit idol]

It’s actually not very expensive

Goes for $65

[gray stone]

Wait, AIO units?

Or just the case?

[twilit idol]

The case

[plucky needle]

Doesnt alcohol stay cooler than water?

[gray stone]

Ah, good cases can be pretty cheap, even for full ATX cases

[twilit idol]

Just that case which is the Darkflash dlm22

It’s a micro atx case

[plucky needle]

The white version is smexy

[twilit idol]

It is

I like all of them

[gray stone]

Alcohol evaporates more than water, so I don't think that's the case

I think it's more just for the meme of having a russian computer

[plucky needle]

Pair that with some custom sleeved white and black cables with a 2080ti white, and a nzxt kraken x62 in white

Oh sweet mama

jama

Oh

true

But how can it evaporate in an enclosed environment

[gray stone]

Well, AIO piping can have multiple failure points, can't it?

[stoic island]

pump

[still roost]

ArmaaniiBoi#7294 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[stoic island]

failure

tube

failure

[twilit idol]

rip

[stoic island]

erosion

fan failure

[drowsy badge]

so ?

[plucky needle]

use antifreeze

[trail shuttle]

the ryzen stock cooler look pretty good ngl

the prism rgb

one

[plucky needle]

use methanol and put it in an ice loop like jay did

[twilit idol]

I think I need new fans mine have gotten pretty loud since I bought my pc

[plucky needle]

Just clean them

grab some canned air

and whooosh

[twilit idol]

Ima need $10

[plucky needle]

BLOW

BLOW ON IT HARD

lmaoooo

[twilit idol]

Hm last time someone told me to blow it didn’t go well

[plucky needle]

i-

[gray stone]

Oh yeah, alcohol is non-polar, so unlike water it won't eventually destroy components, as long as the loop is air tight

[plucky needle]

YEah

but tbh just use methanol

Best idea

[gray stone]

in the year 2030, Linus Tech Tips releases a video where he insists on using Liquid Nitrogen Cooling because AIO's were "So 2020"

[plucky needle]

It is less viscous than ethanol glycol (?or whatever it is called)

Haha

*Linus dad tips releases a video where he insists on using Liquid Nitrogen Cooling on his children because AIO's were "So 2020"

[gray stone]

If commercial superchillers become reality, that would be something Linus would try ngl

[stoic island]

Kinpin's roboclocker

[gray stone]

He could also just buy some from a Chemistry store, though that'd almost certainly destroy the PC due to thermal shock

[stoic island]

is op

[ocean nimbus]

I do have a question

[final trellis]

What question

[ocean nimbus]

Ok so I’m planning on getting a i7 10700K and I want to AIO cool it

[mint musk]

Bro for under 200 dollars rate this build
I3 9100f
Msi h310 vh plus
Cx 550 corsair

[stoic island]

you

can't use it

[ocean nimbus]

Me?

[twilit idol]

I got a decent build I’m trying

[stoic island]

9100f doesn't have iGPU

@ocean nimbus use aircooling smh

[ocean nimbus]

Oh air cooling?

So don’t use aio

[stoic island]

:P

[ocean nimbus]

Ok

[gray stone]

You'll get some noise in air cooling, but it's generally better since we have had a lot of time to make it more efficient overall

we being the manufacturer's we

[stoic island]

what

air cooling is liquid cooling

except you don't have a slab

[gray stone]

And tubing

[stoic island]

meh

heatpipes arguably tubing

[gray stone]

Ah, fair

[simple temple]

air is air and water is water

[swift scroll]

arguably every cooling is Fluid based

also all cooling is air-cooling bc the radiator uses air to vent its heat

[stoic island]

hm?

@swift scroll what about closed loop LN2

:D

[swift scroll]

Close loop NL2 does not apply simply bc its not active cooling

[stoic island]

ehhh

in a setup like EVGA roboclocker, it's hooked up to a ln2 tank

actively giving the componet fresh ln2

[swift scroll]

You can't feasibly produce the LN2 on the spot nor supply it indirectly, the loop causes the LN2 to deplete

[stoic island]

it's still cooling is it not

[swift scroll]

if we consider that we do have water cooling without using air directly

[stoic island]

anyways

fun stuff

[swift scroll]

Evaporative cooling

yup

very fun

[stoic island]

air liquid both use both

[swift scroll]

yup

[clever sonnet]

bro

where do all the wires on my pc go

like i am building it and its so confusing

ok

hold on

so what i've done so far is applied the cpu, aio and everything to the case basically

[vital warren]

youtube tutorial

will help

[clever sonnet]

idk i looked and im still confused

none of my cables say cpu either

and idk where to plug in aio

[fair birch]

Does anyone know nice decor for PCs like funko pops

[clever sonnet]

i have a asus z390 tuf gaming motherboard

an*

my aio is

coolermaster masterliquid ml240l v2rgb

and my power supply is antec eag pro 750w gold

aio is there right

ok

theres two

they look exactly the same

oh on of them says R on it

one*

no thanks for helping

they all come out of the same place

literally all the wires

okay thanks

[iron berry]

Probably just in the event the boards needs 8 and a 4 pin

Yeah aren't 8 pin power typically a 4+4 pin you can split

[clever sonnet]

i shoulda never put the heatsink in firat

first

its so hard to plug in

bro

this is impossible

i might have to remove the aio

fans

[viral atlas]

Yo could you tell me what you think about this build

https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/tools/custom-pc-builder/pl/ID-3523?diywishlist=0&N=50001459

[little osprey]

Ye

[viral atlas]

Did it not come up on the side builder menu

[little osprey]

No

I didn't see anything unfortunately

[clever sonnet]

i got it in

lets goo

I had to take off the aio

bruh

feelsbadman

the fans

only

[little osprey]

You don't need to pay 100 bucks for windows 10 lol

[clever sonnet]

no

i see it

how should i route it

[clever sonnet]

should i go through the left or right side

[little osprey]

You can get windows 10 for free and then buy a cheap product key later down the line

[kindred holly]

:O u referenced my build

:D

[clever sonnet]

ok can i add you on discord

i have to eat for now

[kindred holly]

👋

[viral atlas]

Is there anything that you would change about it ?

[clever sonnet]

ok thank you

[wintry gust]

hrmm i need a new water cooler system any suggestions for a ryzen 9 3900xt and 2080 ti trio

[balmy patio]

ayo you the sam dude from the morning

[wintry gust]

girl but yes

[balmy patio]

did you get your list?

[wintry gust]

ya

[balmy patio]

cool

[little osprey]

tbh you don't really need an 850w psu @viral atlas

[wintry gust]

i decided to go ryzen very simuliar to naeds setup

MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard i was going this board instead though i like the design better

[viral atlas]

Should i be looking at like a 650 or 700 then

[wintry gust]

ya i'm not going beat a ryzen 9 12 core for 420.... not at all

[icy quail]

i got 600 bucks what can I get

😎

[little osprey]

If you have the money for an 850w psu then go ahead and get it because you will be able to upgrade to a gpu with a higher power draw later down the road.

[icy quail]

yes

[little osprey]

Possibly shoot for a 5600x and an rx590 if the price is right

Depends on your target resolution and fps

I meant to say 3600

[viral atlas]

Ok cheers @imagine getting banned

[little osprey]

can someone make me a pc part list for a 700-900 build

@little osprey what resolution will you play at and what is your target fps

1080p ONLY and 165 fps

[modern ginkgo]

That’s hot

[little osprey]

das hot

[icy quail]

yo thats diesel af

thanks

[little osprey]

Ok @little osprey ill try to look for something

[icy quail]

@quartz pivot would that be fine if I did a 500W 80+?

or stick with the 650

ight

thanks

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

Its a little over budget but good for what you said you wanted

[icy quail]

thats just the list section

[keen shell]

Hey guys my rtx 3080 just came and I was wondering how I could connect it to my laptop

[icy quail]

took me to my own list

lmao

[keen shell]

any suggestions

[queen meadow]

there is only one way

[keen shell]

which would be?

[dire totem]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-detected-troll-detector-scanning-gif-16255236

[little osprey]

Oh wait I messed up lol

[queen meadow]

buy a gpu enclosure

[keen shell]

okay

[little osprey]

ye i was bout to say @little osprey

lol

[keen shell]

The 3080 must be so new that there must not be much on reddit about connecting to a laptop yet

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kDsJfP @little osprey

thank you broo

Try that?

Np

[keen shell]

Also how to a replace my laptops i7 7700 cpu?

[dire totem]

1. Insure laptop.
2. Set it on fire.
3. Claim insurace

[queen meadow]

well a 3080 is not a standard size so you need to make sure it fits in whatever enclosure you buy

[little osprey]

imma see if some of those pc parts go on sale for black friday

[keen shell]

okay

Im just going to take it to my local pc store and have them connect the 3080 to my laptop

[little osprey]

This is for a different guy

[queen meadow]

well if the budget was $3000 then 10% isn't that bad 😉

[dire totem]

Send me your 3080 and I'll upload it to your drive via the power of my fiber optic connection

[keen shell]

very funny

Is there any adapters I could use for usb C to whatever this graphics card uses

[dire totem]

A better solution would be to buy the rest of a PC

[little osprey]

what prebuilt company is the best in yo opinion

[keen shell]

I don't even know why I bought it my friend just told me to so I did

[dire totem]

He must be a powerful engineer

[keen shell]

He speaks to me using text to speech

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KPkTJf @little osprey this is a much cheaper pc that will out preform the old one I came up with

[queen meadow]

P300A looks great, but it's a pretty small case

but if your graphics card isn't much longer than your mobo, or using onboard graphics it's probably the best case you could get

[dire totem]

You can use this here:
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16814986003?Description=external gpu&cm_re=external_gpu-_-9SIA8X5B8R2297-_-Product

[clever sonnet]

hey noob

[dire totem]

It has RGB lighting to go faster

[clever sonnet]

u still here

[little osprey]

thanks i think i will buy the 800$ build @little osprey

[clever sonnet]

i just put in the 24 pin

[vital warren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LHgLPV i had to fix it

a few tiny things

[little osprey]

Yeah the 5600xt beats the rtx 2060 at 100 bucks less

You should look for a different atx that suites your personal tastes

can i use the nzxt h510 case with this build

[vital warren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TrjcTJ switched case

it's not the best case

in terms of airflow

[next kestrel]

honestly if u like how it looks then yeah

you're gonna be using 300W total

[little osprey]

You should look for a case with a mesh front panel

[vital warren]

there is one on the list^^

[next kestrel]

you'll be looking at the pc for a while

you should get one that you like looking at

[vital warren]

yeah that's true

[north fern]

1440p gaming anyone

[vital warren]

what about it

[next kestrel]

yeah u might get 5 degrees higher temps

but how much is that gonna matter

[little osprey]

The cable management system in that case probably isn't that great tho

[next kestrel]

its pretty good

hide it behind the white bar

ive built in it

[little osprey]

i am having my friend build my pc

[vital warren]

@little osprey what is your budget?

overall

[next kestrel]

it looks fantastic

[north fern]

What case the h510?

[vital warren]

i can fit a good case in

[next kestrel]

google it

[little osprey]

The fractal design meshify c is a bit better looking in my opinion but a bit more expensive

my budget is around 700-900

[next kestrel]

everything is opinion based

[north fern]

If you have $100 to spare the cosair iCUE 220T is good

[little osprey]

so like 800 about

[north fern]

Great airflow

[vital warren]

i can do 800

[next kestrel]

just spend money on what you think looks nice

[vital warren]

leaves like 84 for case

corsair 4000d airflow is 80

[queen meadow]

remember phanteks released a P500A now, P400A is just old news now 😄

[vital warren]

lots of cases for under 20 more