which would be for machine + peripherals right?
#building-and-recc-chat
foggy hazel
stoic island
Heh, that's not really the budget I envision for a "ps5 killer" lel
quasi canopy
Oh
stoic island
price matching consoles is hard, and especially hard when current gen budget parts haven't released yet.
@quasi canopy but yea, does that 1300$ budget include for the Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse, Headset, etc?
quasi canopy
No
stoic island
So are you prepared to get those separately from that budget?
quasi canopy
Yeah
foggy hazel
just to make certain you are aware of the cost
we are talking about a total cost in the 1700-ish range then
and that is still fairly budget on the peripherals
stoic island
(Say 1300$ PC, 300$ 1440p144hz monitor, 100$ GMMK, 60$ Model o, 120$ PC37x) That would be getting nice peripherals.
quasi canopy
Thanks I’ll look into those
stoic island
ehm I'm just picking some out for reference of some decent stuff for peripherals, and example of how the costs will work
quasi canopy
👍
foggy hazel
again, we are just trying to make certain that you are aware of the potential costs of going this route
we are NOT saying you cannot go this route
stoic island
welp I'll slap that into a list for reference.
stoic island
We're also not saying you HAVE to get this exact setup, it's a bit placeholder.
foggy hazel
the next series of questions for you would be these:
Do you need wifi?
any particular want/requirements for the case?
quasi canopy
Oh I’m new to the pc world so I don’t have a clue about parts and stuff
Wdym by wifi
foggy hazel
do you have a ethernet cable or do you connect to the internet via wifi?
quasi canopy
I connect to it via wifi I don’t have Ethernet
foggy hazel
okay
noted
do you have a requirement for the case itself?
small? big?
pink?
sound like a jet engine?
quasi canopy
No not really I want something that just looks cool overall
foggy hazel
@stoic island thinking... that CM case you like?
the one with 2 front purple fans in the press photos?
stoic island
Finished up making a reference list, it'll total out to 1900$ for this reference list,
hm?
MB311L?
or H500?
wide boi or normal looking boi
foggy hazel
was the MasterCase h500 i was thinking about
stoic island
ah
It's a bit of a niche case, some people like it, some people think it's too wide and bulky looking.
TD500 mesh is a generally good option imo
quasi canopy
Hey guys while u guys try making me a build do u think u can do the same for my brother
foggy hazel
wifi requirement @stoic island :)
foggy hazel
that list @quasi canopy
foggy hazel
but as mentioned, keep in mind, the peripherals are on the nice side of things. as in, very nice side of things (especially for a first time build)
odd crypt
Hey @stoic island
stoic island
Guess I went a bit over budget, but it's just a reference build, we can thin it out.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d8tMcT
Hey
odd crypt
What's the best 625$ build
foggy hazel
@quasi canopy and yes, ofc. Just get answers to the same questions we asked you :)
stoic island
(We need specifics for his usage too)
@odd crypt for pure performance or have some nice-to-haves?
stoic island
wait
oh pricing is weird
but anyways
pure perf wise, this is close to 625$
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mx3rVc
quasi canopy
Well he plays fortnite , rocket league , gta and Modern-warfare he doesn’t have a really high budget but wants a pc that can run all of those games
odd crypt
I want a different case
stoic island
Modern warfare makes it a bit harder, what resolution and refresh rate?
odd crypt
Like the 1 in mine
stoic island
@odd crypt that's where I like to make compromises for budget builds :D
oh well
lets see
I'll downgrade GPU to do better other stuff
foggy hazel
@odd crypt keep in mind, your GPU is a fair deal slower
odd crypt
I guess I'll like a 650 budget
stoic island
bit over budget again xD
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7z3rVc
odd crypt
Also I want 1 gb srry
stoic island
eek
quasi canopy
I don’t really know anything about Refresh rate or resolution ik that he just wants something that will give him better performance then a console
iron berry
1gb?
quasi canopy
And yeah thanks for the build
stoic island
Does he have the peripherals already or does he need all the peripherals?
(Monitor, keyboard, mouse, headset)
quasi canopy
He needs peripherals
stoic island
ick, corners were cut, but I still can't get 1660 super for under 650$ sadly
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CQkx68
hm alright
@quasi canopy Is it possible for you to ask if he will prefer 1080p144hz, 1080p240hz, or 1440p144hz?
stoic island
2tb? I wouldn't want to
odd crypt
Do 1tb
next kestrel
storage drive maybe?
stoic island
P1/P2 is a budget SSD drive for whenever that 20$ saved really matters for me
for 2tb I'd grab like a sx8200 pro
quasi canopy
1080p/ 240hz if possible
stoic island
@foggy hazel do you think you have any good pseudo-audiophile pseudo-cheap headset suggestions? (Closer to like the 50$/80$ range)
If not, I'll slap a pc37x in again
foggy hazel
nah
stoic island
gotcha
olive kraken
So
foggy hazel
because the headset part kicks the nuts away
stoic island
sadly
olive kraken
sx8200
stoic island
I mean cheap audiophine headphones work too, I'll just also slap in a modmic
stoic island
sx8200 pro is a decent option
dunno how to really feel about the swapping controller and flash thing
but testing doesn't show too great a different for real world perf
foggy hazel
convenience of pc37x is a very big deal
stoic island
(Going off Serve the home testing that I saw earlier)
it's even convenient for me to slap in a list :D
hm
Do I want to go call nachos for good prebuilt keebs
prob not
lyric lance
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pjztp2 gonna go wth a 3070 but is this a good build?
stoic island
@quasi canopy honestly, they can just use the list I sent you, and swap the GPU for the 500$ RTX 3070, and swap the monitor to one like this
https://www.newegg.com/black-asus-tuf-gaming-vg259qm-25/p/N82E16824281054
I don't like the case too much, but that's good. @lyric lance
and Motherboard is a bit expensive
quasi canopy
Oh ok
stoic island
@quasi canopy oh yea, for the keyboard, do you know what switches you prefer?
foggy hazel
new to building etc, remember that @stoic island :)
stoic island
(Ye, gotta start the convo somehow)
GMMK offers a pretty decent selection of different switches.
deep skiff
mhm gmmk
deep skiff
theyre decent which one u talking about in particular
arctic jungle
GMMK has this super awesome white ice kbd
it looks so nice
it's on my to-buy list
deep skiff
eh theres a few large flaws with it imo
quasi canopy
@stoic island no not really any that’s works just fine is good
foggy hazel
difference is in looks mainly
polar anvil
not performance
foggy hazel
the only 1 fan type that matters is what is known as radial fan setups
also known as "blower style"
uncut pelican
I am one step closer to build day
polar anvil
like for a 1650 super
foggy hazel
https://blog.logicalincrements.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/BLOWER-TYPE2.png <- radial/blower looks like that
polar anvil
it doest matter if it is single or dual
foggy hazel
as long as it isnt that. it does not really matter
and your specific chip (the 1650 super variant) is so low in power use, that it matters even less :)
foggy hazel
what vs what?
stoic island
@quasi canopy well, key switches are a lot of personal preference, main things to start off looking for is Linear vs Tactile vs Clicky
like Reds are Linear, Browns are Tactile, Blues are Clicky for example
quasi canopy
@stoic island linear
polar anvil
@foggy hazel the single fan 1650 vs double fan 1650
foggy hazel
@polar anvil price difference is just the manufacturer trying to differentiate the product
thats all
native plover
any good place to get windows 10 pro key?
deep skiff
ebay
safe peak
guys if i get a 5600x could it still work with a b550f or would I need to upgrade to a x570 e?
foggy hazel
it works in b550 and x570 @safe peak
lyric thistle
What kind of support does the A520 have?
foggy hazel
not really
at least not based on what we know so far
but as has been said before
wait for reviews
safe peak
ok good
lyric thistle
O zen 2 and 3
cloud oasis
U just need to update to recent bios
foggy hazel
@cloud oasis that happended a while back
amd have gone to great lengths to avoid the b450 situation they had with zen2
@safe peak just going to post your list here
that is what you sent me
do you actually need wifi?
vital warren
a 2k build with a 3070 
stoic island
@foggy hazel ah sorry didn't see it was the G27QC, I'd still recommend the G27Q for the IPS panel
stoic island
ofc, just pointing it out, for whatever it's worth :)
foggy hazel
aye aye :)
also, please dont nitro boost, its much easier to notice you talking with that purple colour :D
stoic island
Lel, I mean, this time I just got nitro classic :)
WAIT NAED I KNOW HOW TO SOLVE IT
PUT LEGEND ROLE ABOVE NITRO :D
foggy hazel
:)
i can (with the current amount of online nitro users) still see you on the list :)
foggy hazel
vertical monitors ftw :D
stoic island
very nice
iron berry
Wait the g27q is 260
iron berry
Oh I was looking at the ips I was like I was seeing it at 320 but has a 30 dollar promo
deep skiff
@foggy hazel is that a secondary monitor? please dont tell me you use a vertical as ur main
stoic island
@deep skiff what if he's doing vertical ultrawide monitor for ultimate productivity?
lyric thistle
That's quite the spreadsheet 😳
little osprey
do you guys think a 750watt psu is enough for a i9 10850k, rtx 3080, and 36gbs ram at 3600mhz
i heard that the 30 series gets spikes in power that can trip a psu so im not sure
stoic island
@little osprey 36gb of ram is weird... But I'd rather look at specific models of PSUs, I like the Enermax Revolution D.F. 850w at 130$
great multi rail PSU
fleet pagoda
I might just buy a pre build tbh im so paranoid im gonna mess things up while buying parts like they arent gonna work together
fleet pagoda
Still paranoid
stoic island
then be paranoid that the prebuilt is going to come broken
and you're not going to know how to fix it
fleet pagoda
Were u paranoid w ur first build
stoic island
yes
fleet pagoda
Mhm
fleet pagoda
Yeah
lyric thistle
My H81 chipset doesn't even have a heatsink
stoic island
prebuilts are scary with their wacky PSUs and proprietary connectors
lyric thistle
Bare silicon
stoic island
or thermal paste :D
languid nimbus
Hey guys, quick question. I’ve got a bit of a problem going on with my pc, keeps saying no signal from DP. I’ve unplugged and replugged cable to no avail. Turned pc off and on a few times as well, nothing.
stoic island
yea
languid nimbus
Was working fine couple days ago
stoic island
Monitor & Cable confirmed to be usable right now?
languid nimbus
Yes sir, was as of Friday
stoic island
HDMI Works?
languid nimbus
Granted hasn’t been used since then, but both are within 2 months old
Not sure on hdmi. One sec
No signal from hdmi, either.
lyric thistle
Also missing on my mobo is, a set of VRMs, USB3.0 front header, and a SATA port
That's all I can think of off the top of my head
Prebuilt scary 😎
stoic island
Interesting
languid nimbus
Attempted connection from mobo to monitor, nothing there either
stoic island
can you check Manual for what it is if that's a debug LED?
better pin down what exactly it's from first
@languid nimbus so it starts up, but no signal, correct? Still posts?
fleet pagoda
Hope they release a 3060
stoic island
would only make sense
languid nimbus
Correct
lyric thistle
3050 
languid nimbus
2 sec grabbing manual
stoic island
fun
fleet pagoda
3060 would be so pog
stoic island
Right now, I'm thinking maybe GPU thingy, maybe boot (storage) device.
pearl blade
it was the same
stoic island
sold out instantly, but there were thousands of orders
aka. more people got em, but still sold out.
languid nimbus
Ok, only LED that is currently on I think is just the power one
Booting off of an also-brand-new m.2
fleet pagoda
I hope i can get a 3060 if they release them
round river
Do you guys think the 5600xt price will drop when more RNDA 2 GPUs come out?
languid nimbus
None shown on mobo, no
round river
@round river new pricing doesn't drop.
@stoic island new pricing?
stoic island
Retailers like Newegg/Amazon/Best buy, etc
round river
Oh ok
round river
Oh I see
languid nimbus
GPU has power, at least according to LED on it, lol
round river
Ok thx
languid nimbus
I’m not sure if it makes a difference or not, but I left it on (just on sleep) since Friday. I would typically turn it off but I didn’t figure it makes that huge of a difference. Guess I was wrong
This is why I can’t have anything nice 
oddly enough, my mouse LED isn’t working either(but keyboard is), so I’m not sure if it’s just because pc is “sleeping” or if mobo is potentially fried somehow or another..idk man. I have it plugged into a power surge strip to protect but who knows
lyric thistle
It means when you use an m.2 drive, you can use up one less SATA ports
So you have say, 6 SATA ports, you will be able to use only 5
pliant vapor
Should i get 3000 MHz C15 or 3200 MHz C16 on a 9900k?
Idk if cas latency is more important than speeds on intel
violet harness
3200mhz
Idk if cas latency is more important than speeds on intel
@pliant vapor c16 is good enough
covert pewter
Can someone make me a 1000 dollar build list
vague maple
sure @covert pewter but i need a lot more information
what are you using the pc for
do you have a color theme
any specific features that you need to have? large storage/overclocking support etc
rgb or no
what size case
native plover
is this part list good
should I change the cpu and the case?
those are the only 2 parts I haven't bought yet
vague maple
the case is great, but you can cut corners on that and get a better cpu
need some budget case recommendations?
native plover
yea
vague maple
ok
native plover
what cpu should I get
vague maple
the fractal design focus g is amazing, you save 50 dollars, its has a side panel, 2 fans that come with it and good enough thermals
it just doesn't look that good
what cpu should I get
@native plover depends on how much you save on the case
if you can save 50 bucks, then you can get the 3600
vague maple
lemme put it in your build
you can also go with the coolermaster masterbox mid tower
comes with 2 argb fans
maybe 3 im not sure
and also great all around performance, definitely worth 60 bucks
native plover
hmm
vague maple
both of them are for 60
native plover
should i stick with ryzen 5 2600
vague maple
i mean sure tbh
native plover
its 176 at micro center dope
vague maple
the difference between 2600 and 3600 is not THATTTTT massive
if its 176, then i would honestly say get an extra 20 bucks to get the 3600
native plover
im sticking with 2600 its basically the same
vague maple
ok
native plover
did u add the case
vague maple
no
why cut down on a case if you're not going to spend the extra money on someplace else
jagged ember
ha
basically the same
they're not lmao
2600 uses the Zen+ architecture while the 3600 uses the Zen 2 architecture
that already gives you a noticeable performance improvement
lyric lance
Can anyone help
ripe wedge
whats up? @lyric lance
quasi canopy
hey
i need some help
ive never built a pc and dont know anything about the parts
i want something that'll give me better performance then the ps5
my budget is 800 CAD
spark raven
So for around 50-70 dollars whats the best case for airflow that i can get looking to upgrade over this holiday season (have the CoolerMaster Masterbox 5 Lite)
uncut pelican
@quasi canopy so 600 usd
fleet pagoda
I7 9700k vs ryzen 7 3700x
Can i order online from microcenter
Hows this looking
quasi snow
@quasi canopy you probably can't beat ps5 at that price unless you get some good deals on used stuff
stoic island
@quasi canopy theres basically no chance you can beat PS5 and price match it at the same time right now
You'll have better luck when current gen budget parts release.
for example, RTX 3060/2660, RX 6500/6600(xt)
small osprey
2660?
stoic island
@small osprey whatever they're calling the 16xx replacements
small osprey
Ah
foggy hazel
and even that is a slim to none kind of chance of beating it
foggy hazel
aye
stoic island
unless some dumb random person wanted to sell a 9900k+2080ti pc or something for 300usd
small osprey
XD
quasi snow
Consoles will be cheaper than their pc equivalents because they're sold at a loss and then make money back on things like subscriptions when pc part manufacturers have to make profit
foggy hazel
for now, they are sold at a loss
give it a couple of years and that will change
it always does
stoic island
What if they start requiring you buy a year of subscriptions on top of the console :D
foggy hazel
well, they can go the mobile phone route
stoic island
oh yea bundle with the plan
foggy hazel
and just raise the price of the "no included plan" model
here, you can buy it, it will be 200+ usd
stoic island
heh
rustic sandal
Meanwhile PCs are built and then don’t have any subscriptions etc so...same price essentially
foggy hazel
except, they cannot compete at that price @rustic sandal
arctic jungle
but I mean
a PC offers so much more...
you can use a PC for other things too...
but that isn't the point
take the switch for example
400$ at launch
but 60$ a game!?!?!?
doesn't make sense
you can easily a good build a PC for 500-600$
and spend ~< 20$ per game
if at any point, on either device, you have more than 6-8 games, the PC is worth more
arctic jungle
exactly
arctic jungle
~< 20$
mhm
but we can all agree
all PC games are roughly or less than 20$
giving them much more value than a console
PCMR 
arctic jungle
ew
eweweweweweweww
stop
im going back to general where they don't assualt my eyes with words like 'cod'
stoic island
give a man 30$ and he'll waste it on microtransactions.
give a man Factorio and he'll waste his life on it.
arctic jungle
foggy hazel
nor do they actually ask you to think either.
arctic jungle
General is just laying your brain out in the open
@stoic island this is facts
violet harness
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/k7mYHz
@fleet pagoda 2x16 is usually better then 4x8 because most motherboards have 2 preferred dimm slots
stoic island
prob placeholder
violet harness
2x16 is usually preferred but not for that reason
@stoic island I saw something on a video and the motherboard had 2 black spots and 2 grey
foggy hazel
just "group" colouring @violet harness
sometimes they match the actual preferred groups, sometimes they dont
i am yet to hear a logical reason for this from the mainboard manufacturers
violet harness
Oh ye
stoic island
but 2x16 is usually preferred for upgradability.
(can upgrade to 4x16 easily, just slap more in)
wintry gust
does anyone know anything about these two things? Are they worth getting?
https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i9-10900k-core-i9-10th-gen/p/N82E16819118122?Item=9SIAFXNC9E1975
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144305?Item=N82E16813144305
wintry gust
I just pre-ordered my hp reverb g2 vr set
wintry gust
and MSI I5 6 core, and a mortar 1151 socket lga.. max 64 gig rams
stoic island
slap them in a pcpartpicker.com/list please
that'll make things a lot easier to see what to be upgraded
wintry gust
is there a way I can do this quickly? like clicking a button and it will tell you my pc? lol
stoic island
smth hwinfo64 will give you everything but case/psu/cooling
rustic sandal
should I get strimer plus cables orrrr
stoic island
@wintry gust just spend the time getting all of it slapped into a list >:D
wintry gust
what info do you need to know? cause I am kinda replacing my whole computer lol
minus the graphics card and powersupply
stoic island
Because of that
I'd like to see what you can keep
Whatever you can keep, saves you money.
violet harness
Nah
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/himeko-chan/saved/#view=BQmZwP
@wintry gust go to the saved part list and copy the link from there
violet harness
@wintry gust go to the list, click edit then copy then link while your in edit mode
wintry gust
thats the shareable link though is so confused
violet harness
No it isn’t
wintry gust
want me to screen shot?
violet harness
Besides you set it private
wintry gust
cause yes it is
little osprey
Is there a site where I can pick the correct pieces to fit my pc
violet harness
ITS PRIVATE
Is there a site where I can pick the correct pieces to fit my pc
@little osprey pcpartpicker.com
little osprey
Ok thank you
violet harness
Ok good
wintry gust
ya apparently when I refreshed the page it re-set it to private 😦 sorry about that
little osprey
why do u have two diff kits in ur system @wintry gust
wintry gust
i am going for 2 32s
little osprey
get rid of one of the kits in the pcpp
wintry gust
i plan on it
my store guy left it in 2 sets of ram
thats what i was going to go for
little osprey
use of the pc ?
wintry gust
gaming, streaming, vr
little osprey
resolution u game in ?
safe peak
hey guys if im planning on getting a 3070 do you think I should wait for the 5600x or just use a 3600 bc I do not know if they llke will be sold out everywhere w
wintry gust
the min requirements for the vr is an i7
violet harness
balmy patio
uhhh i7 means many things @wintry gust
violet harness
@wintry gust way better pc build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WxW27X
little osprey
now THAT makes a lot more sense
balmy patio
and you dont need something big to play in vr
balmy patio
who told you that?
violet harness
wintry gust
not going amd rather
violet harness
@wintry gust check out that
little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WxW27X
@violet harness this is a much better price/perf build
also you dont need an aio for a 3600
balmy patio
well i mean first of all, you dont need much processing power
violet harness
Amd is superior over intel
little osprey
unless youre oc, and even then you wont get much perf on zen2 from your oc
balmy patio
what you do need is graphics potential
wintry gust
I mean I have a 2080 rtx ti trio lol
violet harness
also you dont need an aio for a 3600
@little osprey I think the person wants aio
wintry gust
I am pretty sure that is a good card for graphics potential 🙂
little osprey
its not lol
balmy patio
its not worth it as of now
little osprey
^
balmy patio
get a 3080 if you want a 700 dollar card
violet harness
I am pretty sure that is a good card for graphics potential 🙂
@wintry gust mate did you check the build?
little osprey
get a 3080 if you want a 700 dollar card
@balmy patio 1up
wintry gust
yes I am looking at it
balmy patio
or a 3070 will be good enough at a cheaper pricepoint
wintry gust
I already own the 2080
violet harness
yes I am looking at it
@wintry gust what’s ur budget
wintry gust
atm 1.3k
violet harness
Oof
little osprey
u said u already have ur gpu ?
wintry gust
ya
balmy patio
oh then it makes sense
wintry gust
I already have the graphics card
I bought it back in june so
I am waiting for a stable 3090 24 gig card
balmy patio
and also dont get an evo, get something like a mp34, or a sn750, maybe if you want get a p1
wintry gust
ya but that is later right now my budget for inside components is that
later I will have another 2k to toss in
I'm doing this by parts
🙂
violet harness
Well then it would be easier to wait for your full budget to come in so you don’t need to swap anything
wintry gust
I need the processor + motherboard by december
cause my vr headset is coming
it won't run on this pc lool
balmy patio
will this work for you @wintry gust https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cTqK4d
if you need more usb ports, just get a usb card
wintry gust
Ohh for storage.. I have a 3 tb storage drive and a WD 500gb ssd.. I was going to upgrade to 2 samsung or digital 2 1tbs
little osprey
where r u finding a 3070 for 300 usd
wintry gust
but that looks nice
balmy patio
where r u finding a 3070 for 300 usd
@little osprey o frick
wintry gust
I was looking at this case not sure.. I wanted a pink one but... pink is limited 😦
https://www.newegg.com/fractal-design-meshify-c-white-tg-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352087?Item=N82E16811352087
little osprey
@wintry gust
u live in the us right ?
whats the budget for this including the gpu
and ur using it for vr, gaming, and streaming correct
balmy patio
the budget is 1500 i think but himeko already has some parts
i think himeko mentioned already having the gpu and storage
little osprey
@wintry gust could you tell us your budget, and what parts you already have ?
balmy patio
himeko already has a 2080 super and 3tb of storage, which himeko is looking to upgrade
little osprey
upgrading storage or gpu ?
wintry gust
processor/motherboard/ram/storage
wintry gust
no I don't have new ram I have lower grade ram atm I was looking at 64 gigs
wintry gust
I do plan on doing 3d animation/model editing in the new future
wintry gust
hrmmm...
little osprey
we dont really need a tomohawk for this sytem either
wintry gust
then should I go 2 corsair platniums for 32?
violet harness
You don’t know much about pcs do you?
little osprey
me or himeko
wintry gust
Not anymore no.. lol I used to but everything is drastically different
balmy patio
and remember @wintry gust 
jagged ember
16 gb may not suffice for 3d modeling
violet harness
Himeko
jagged ember
Not then, likely not now
violet harness
16 gb may not suffice for 3d modeling
@jagged ember 32 will tho
little osprey
we will do 32
jagged ember
I can easily use up almost 16
violet harness
64 would be overkill
little osprey
@wintry gust u have storage and gpu already ?
jagged ember
It all depends on the type of workload they're doing
little osprey
whats ur storage situation as of now just so i can put it in pcpp without any value
jagged ember
Bob, for example has what you'd call an overkill system
But he uses pretty much his entire systen
Same goes for another friend I have
little osprey
if he uses it all then would it really be considered overkill
jagged ember
64 gb and he regularly maxes it out
That's ram
So I wouldn't say it's overkill unless we know what he's doing with the system lol
little osprey
god for some reason this is all such a mess to me
Himeko your budget is 1.5k excluding gpu/storage correct ?
The use of the system will be vr, streaming, gaming, and 3d modeling/editing ?
wintry gust
as I said I plan on doing a lot of 3d modeling since I am planning going mainstream vr streaming and 3d low key animation
little osprey
you dont need storage correct ?
jagged ember
I'd also add, go ask people in general chat for advice on this
wintry gust
I do need storage actually hence why I was looking at the blackfridays
jagged ember
Always good to get more insight on this, even if you feel like you know what's happening
Naed, for example
Hi!
violet harness
@violet harness
@foggy hazel considering what he had before yeah it is
foggy hazel
hello @jagged ember
little osprey
u have a gpu do u not @wintry gust
foggy hazel
b450 is NOT acceptable for a new machine.
little osprey
cant put in a 3070 that wont be in stock till early q1
wintry gust
yes I have a good gpu 🙂
foggy hazel
nor is the samsung SSD
jagged ember
If naed is here you have nothing to fear
wintry gust
2080 ti trio
jagged ember
I leave with this
foggy hazel
but could i ask for a quick summary of what you plan to use the machine for?
sure, @little osprey
wintry gust
Streaming VR, 3d modeling, low animation, streaming in general, and hardcore gaming
foggy hazel
sorry, that was not for you, but himeko, but it works for you too @little osprey :)
little osprey
the pcpp i compiled is for Himeko
foggy hazel
and yes, i am now caught all the way up :)
so yes, i see that now @little osprey :)
was just speed reading the backlog :)
little osprey
i degraded the motherboard from a tomohawk to a B550 A Pro, as well as included a more suitable psu option. not to mention replacing the samsung ssd with a kingston a2000
violet harness
Someone’s selling a 1080 on fb marketplace for 450$...? Wtf
foggy hazel
@wintry gust what does your upgrade cycle look like?
as in, will the build here be used "as is" until its old and dead?
wintry gust
right now I need to upgrade my storage, motherboard, and processor. I do not have to worry about graphics card, power supply, water coolant. I do need new ram as well
case I am looking to get too
little osprey
@foggy hazel the pcpp he is looking for is the upgrade. as he is upgrading almost everything except for storage and graphics power
foggy hazel
aye aye, just verifying things @little osprey :)
little osprey
aight gucci
foggy hazel
makes it much easier to avoid misunderstandings :)
little osprey
just lemme know if yall need sum imma head back to metal fabrication
uncut pelican
Yo builders
little osprey
was good
foggy hazel
enjoy @little osprey
little osprey
tyvm
wintry gust
my processor is bottlenecking my graphics card and its not supported for my my vr headset
little osprey
what is ur processor as of now ?
uncut pelican
^^
wintry gust
i5-8400
foggy hazel
let me just make a couple of quick edits to the parts you listed as needing an upgrade.
little osprey
Yo builders
@uncut pelican did u need sum fil ?
little osprey
aight wsp
foggy hazel
and we can talk based around that, okay @wintry gust ?
wintry gust
sure
reef moss
I have a budget of 1400 can someone help me out?
little osprey
I have a budget of 1400 can someone help me out?
@reef moss use and country please ? also do u need wifi or r u running ethernet
reef moss
Gaming / streaming and North america
Ethernet but wifi would work too so its easier when I move
foggy hazel
@wintry gust what cooler are you using on the CPU right now?
uncut pelican
Thats a decent budget tbh
@reef moss have you made any type of list or anything yet?
reef moss
I know nothin about it
spark raven
For aroud 60 usd whats one of the best cases i can get. All around with decent airflow and dust filters over the fans
wintry gust
foggy hazel
@wintry gust you still got all the brackets for the H100i ?
reef moss
im looking for something long lasting and can handle alot of mods on minecraft persay
like direwolfe 4.0 type of shee
uncut pelican
@reef moss you having someone build it for you or are you building it
wintry gust
Ya I do
violet harness
Someone is selling a 1080 for 450$ is it worth?
reef moss
no
wintry gust
I think I do I am not sure
coarse coral
Someone is selling a 1080 for 450$ is it worth?
@violet harness no
violet harness
Cause it seems overpriced
spark raven
Someone is selling a 1080 for 450$ is it worth?
@violet harness found one for 333 so no
foggy hazel
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nCRjp2 <- then that is starting point to talk from @wintry gust
wintry gust
very over priced
little osprey
@reef moss https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8ZbNqp
wintry gust
450 = 2070 price
little osprey
im not great at building but i sure tried
reef moss
oh thank you
little leaf
@little osprey No
little osprey
ask naed to take a look over it im sure hes more experienced than i will ever be
violet harness
@violet harness no
@coarse coral see I knew it I called him on it and he told me to stfu so I just wanted to double check
reef moss
FiL what do you think of the build
little leaf
@reef moss don't build that
reef moss
?
little leaf
@reef moss don't
reef moss
Oh I dont like intel
little leaf
That build is terrible for 1500
foggy hazel
@little osprey just give it some decades :) it comes with time, just like all experience :)
uncut pelican
@reef moss the list that was presented there seems decent i have a duggest for the case and psu tho
little osprey
should i have gone amd with a 3600 and b550 pro 4 ?
little leaf
no
wintry gust
Ok so curious why the AMD instead of intel?
spark raven
Yea i found a guy selling a computer with a i5 640 and a r9 290 for 500 scammers selling to uneducated people
little leaf
the 2070s is 780 dollars
foggy hazel
faster @wintry gust
reef moss
Naed could you help me out?
little leaf
little osprey
no
@little leaf could u evaluate my build a bit more
little leaf
Just copy paste my name
wintry gust
I was looking for a 10 core proccessor so I don't have to upgrade it for awhile
foggy hazel
@reef moss you already have someone helping you :)
little osprey
pcpartpicker.com/list/DKRPxc
@little leaf yea ngl this ones a lot better
little leaf
ssd bad the gpu way overpriced
foggy hazel
let me show up a table with some numbers @wintry gust , 2sec
violet harness
Ok so curious why the AMD instead of intel?
@wintry gust faster and intel locks their ram or something like that I believe
wintry gust
I have to afk for like an hour than I can come back and talk more naed
reef moss
So I should build that one?
foggy hazel
@wintry gust fair enough, no rush :
little osprey
@little leaf thank u
reef moss
Squid killer is that build good for handling alot of mods?
violet harness
@foggy hazel was I right with what I said
little osprey
nono
uncut pelican
Wat
little osprey
@reef moss https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DKRPxc
build this
much better
thanks to @little leaf
foggy hazel
@little osprey long story short on the cpu selection bit: As things are, right this second, there are a few corner cases where intel makes sense. howerver IF the numbers amd have shown for zen 3 are correct (which we will know on nov 5th). IF you can get a zen3 cpu, intel has nothing in the consumer space that is of interest
little leaf
I could make it better
stoic island
@wintry gust I'm back, you still need any help?
little leaf
but my name is already done so
violet harness
@little osprey bad psu
reef moss
Thank ya
foggy hazel
@violet harness close enough
reef moss
Squid can it handle mods?
uncut pelican
@little osprey i would change the psu and case those are expensive
little osprey
personally an enermax revolution 850 would be better no ?
reef moss
Aight
foggy hazel
@stoic island i got Himeko's build talk in hand :)
stoic island
Enermax revolution D.F.
little osprey
^
uncut pelican
I suggest a corsair cx650m they are reliable and good price
coarse coral
uncut pelican
Lmao
stoic island
C O I L W H I N E
violet harness
I suggest a corsair cx650m they are reliable and good price
@uncut pelican they’re actually not reliable but you do you
little osprey
editing upon that one guy with the pcpp in his name
deep skiff
coil whine go vvvvvvvvvvrr
little osprey
added a 2tb compute drive and switched out psu for enermax
uncut pelican
@violet harness fr?
I never knew that tbh
Its worked great for me and my friends
stoic island
They have coil whine issues
violet harness
I have multiple friends that have had issues with them
violet harness
Mostly coil whine but other stuff aswell
stoic island
a good bunch of CXm PSUs have coil whine issues
uncut pelican
Corsair better get that figured out
little osprey
@reef moss https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yFjPnL this is what i got for u
foggy hazel
@uncut pelican its enough that i recommend people that have one (without coilwhine) to go buy a lottery ticket
because their luck is good.
violet harness
Lmao my dad won 5k from a lotto max once
violet harness
We checked it at the gas station
uncut pelican
@foggy hazel lmao
uncut pelican
Sounds like a new pc
violet harness
n o
foggy hazel
imo, no
violet harness
I’d say no
foggy hazel
you can always just split the drive in 2 with partitions
violet harness
I love my friend he’s so awesome
uncut pelican
Ok ty
little osprey
@foggy hazel care to take a look at this pcpp ive compiled for talon ?
still roostBOT
Mxmo#1907 has been warned
little osprey
foggy hazel
that works
little osprey
anything to build upon ?
foggy hazel
if budget is 1500? nah, nor really. Personally i would go 2 * 16 on the ram, but that would bring you over the budget (IF its a hard limit)
little osprey
hmm thanks for the input
arctic jungle
4x8 ram 
little osprey
ofc 32gb would be dependent on the use and this is for gaming
thanks a lot naed much appreciated
reef moss
budget is 1400
violet harness
Naed Can i show u my build
foggy hazel
@little osprey to hit 1400, just remove the HDD and scale the DF to the AMP instead
750 watt is enough
and case can be adjusted down to something else
little osprey
phanteks amp ?
foggy hazel
aye
little osprey
ayyee i got a phanteks amp 550w
stoic island
amp is good
reef moss
oh?
little osprey
@reef moss
reef moss
Ping me when its done please. I appreciate all of you
reef moss
Yea I can go at least 50 over
little osprey
aight thats what i got for u then
foggy hazel
then that is "close enough" :)
reef moss
Is that high end for 1400?
little osprey
yep
little osprey
3080 will be MORE than enough for tripple a titles at 1080p
little osprey
if u want to go even lower we could do 3200 cl 16 but 3600 cl 16 is pretty sweet
3080 already got released
reef moss
oh?
little osprey
but stock is pretty low
reef moss
where do I buy it xd
little osprey
most of them are out of stock
unless ur really lucky
if u cant get ur hands on a 3080 wait for big navi to release and try and cop one of those
best of luck do ping me if u need anything
reef moss
ill try to find one
foggy hazel
@reef moss when are you supposed to give the gift?
reef moss
by christmas
foggy hazel
hmm
save the list
and come and ask us in 2-3 weeks time please
BUT
keep an eye out for the 3080
because that is going to be the trickiest part to get
foggy hazel
yes
that is your answer :)
we simply dont know
and anyone that claims they do? dont.
reef moss
Dang it
foggy hazel
its not info that best buy just "gives out"
so please dont fall for those saying it is :)
reef moss
I wont ;o
foggy hazel
Ofc, it might suddenly turn out that Best Buy or any of the other vendors suddenly start posting official messages with that info.
But so far, not something that is officially shared.
reef moss
ill keep my eye out for it. have you gotten one?
uncut pelican
I cant believe people are rating the 3070 eith one star just because they didnt get one smh
reef moss
yea thats pretty dumb
foggy hazel
@reef moss i personally dont have any interest in them :)
reef moss
Whats a way I can look for it? Effectively
uncut pelican
Like bruh complain elsewhere
reef moss
Oh? What card do you use?
foggy hazel
@uncut pelican now you know another reason why i dont value customer review scores as something that people need to look at
uncut pelican
Yeah
foggy hazel
in this tinker box, there is a old Fury
uncut pelican
Sometimes the companies pay people to review it 5 star
I cant wait til my 3070 comes in doe
foggy hazel
and the workstations have quadros in one and Fire in the other
uncut pelican
Yup
reef moss
How did you get it?
uncut pelican
I pressed the buy button on best buy
uncut pelican
Although it was quick so i see how other people didnt get em
They eill probs be in stock from time to time in december or January
Wow i really cant type today
olive kraken
Can someone recommend some black cases?
This is my build
I was going O-11 and top it off on fans with a 360 rad but now idk how to feel about it
foggy hazel
Fractal Design - Define R7 comes to mind
olive kraken
Also need to add storage and cooler
But depending on case I will probs do arctic 280-360
Won't that choke my air? @foggy hazel
little osprey
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RkgMcT any idea for improvements?
foggy hazel
you seriously overestimate how much air you need
@little osprey mp34 ssd instead of that a400
and do yourself a favour and select the 500gig one
and while you are at it, please grab the Phantek AMP psu
olive kraken
maybe, I was wondering if my 3080 and max oc 10600k would get toasty
well for now my 2080s
stoic island
Might be gammaxx 400 time
covert aurora
@little osprey look into an NVMe SSD
stoic island
@foggy hazel quick check, Intel shouldn't care about 3600c18 vs 3200c16 right
Because Ryzen liked it for IF
But Intel should care more about first word read right?
foggy hazel
lower cl on 3200 would in theory be better iirc
foggy hazel
but i cannot remember the matrix for the results all that well
foggy hazel
aye
stoic island
I'm gonna edit their list for em now
@little osprey revision 1:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8ZFwht
I would personally change that monitor
But mobile is hard :(
MSI G241 is usually 180$ on Newegg
queen totem
is the 2060 worth it
olive kraken
What ru using it for
olive kraken
Also can you wait for prices to decrease when new generation's availability raises
queen totem
ok how long is that gonna take
olive kraken
oh
olive kraken
I would say 2060 should get the job done
queen totem
ok and how much should i look to buy it for
olive kraken
what currency
olive kraken
xD
little osprey
i mean u can just rob a bank for the last 34 dollars
queen totem
lol but im gonna get stuf in black friday so i figure it can go down
stoic island
......
queen totem
also should i get 32 gb or is it overkill
queen totem
ok ya and can it run 144hz this build?
olive kraken
Yes
olive kraken
That depends on your monitor