building-and-recc-chat

[foggy hazel]

nor what standards might be adopted etc

[vague maple]

ok

oh ok

[supple sigil]

Hey also that monitor, do you want that high of refresh rate?

It’s like 280

[vague maple]

yeah i'm planning to do competitive gaming, it's a great price as well

and the second monitor is a 1440p one with 165 hertz

so i have the sweet spot for both

[supple sigil]

Ohhh okay yeah good plan

[vague maple]

ty

[supple sigil]

Personally I think I’d go for a different case with these components but did you go for it with price or?

[little osprey]

@austere condor how do you get all these amazing builds for so cheap? Do you find used deals?

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey yes he does

[little osprey]

I see

It's impressive

[austere condor]

used parts

the latest one i posted was 8 months of waiting and patience for getting all my insane deals into one rig

[small osprey]

Mhmm

[little osprey]

Ye

[small osprey]

I just buy good parts xD

[foggy hazel]

@hearty jasper arm for the UW next?

[hearty jasper]

@foggy hazel definitely

[foggy hazel]

looking nice thou :)

[hazy ridge]

hey i got a problem here could i get some help?

[foggy hazel]

ask

and if someone thinks they want to spend time on your problem. they will

[hazy ridge]

i was memeory clocking and it just went to a solid brown screen

and when i restart it takes a couple seconds then does it again

and i cant do anything

[foggy hazel]

reset your bios

and then consider NOT doing that

[hazy ridge]

ok i oc it to high

i just wanted to see its limits and its limits is 800 lmao

found that out the hard way

how could i reset my bios?

[foggy hazel]

read your mainboard manual

it has the info you need

[hazy ridge]

ok

[foggy hazel]

both location of the jumpers/button and the "how to" :)

[hazy ridge]

thats new?

uhh

whats that?

[foggy hazel]

multiple restarts of windows does that

[hazy ridge]

oh ok

[foggy hazel]

it sees that "something" went wrong

[hazy ridge]

ok its back

[foggy hazel]

so it will default into that

just back out and restart again

[hazy ridge]

ayeee ok it works now

thank you sm i was so scared

haha

[desert gulch]

Lol

[foggy hazel]

you are very welcome :)

and here is something to remember @hazy ridge

[native plover]

can I get format for the front panel connectors

[foggy hazel]

DONT oc something you cannot live without

[native plover]

My mobo is gigabyte b450m

[foggy hazel]

@native plover mainboard manual has the schematic

[native plover]

thanks

[foggy hazel]

your are welcome

[winter iris]

Hello, i need tech help

[slim escarp]

@winter iris what do you need help with

[winter iris]

recently i bought corsair ram 16*4 3200 hrz

[slim escarp]

Ok and

[winter iris]

since then i keep getting BSOD

with many diff codes

[slim escarp]

Oof

Umm give me a sec

[winter iris]

specs is
Ryzen 5 2600
GPU GTX 1050TI
Mobo : B450 aorus M

[little osprey]

hello]

[late helm]

I bought a MSI B450 gaming max plus MB . It has only 4 pin RGB headers . My 5 rgb fans have only the 12 volt 3 pin cable . not the 5 volt pin with the gap in between 1 pin but the 12 volt 3 tight pins . Fans work in the 4 pin fan headers but no control for the RGB . All contorls I can find are the 12 volt to 5 volt version any help ?

[slim escarp]

Some 450 motherboards need bios updates did you check if you needed one

[winter iris]

if it's helping i can provide u the codes i got till now
1st one > stop code page fault in nonpaged area
2nd one > Stop code : Irql not less or equal

@slim escarp to latest one

F50

[little osprey]

i am looking into building a mini itx system powered by ryzen

[late helm]

did bios update right from the box

[little osprey]

can someone help

i need a good mobo that has intergrated wifi

[idle compass]

What does this mean in a pcpartpicker list it says" Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions."

[little osprey]

i will be using the nzxt h200 case

i cant find a good mobo

i like the r5 3600x

[late helm]

rod always good idea to update 450 bios for the newer Ryzen

[little osprey]

and the rtx 2060 not super

[idle compass]

How do you do tho

[little osprey]

but i need a mobo with wifi

mini itx

most reviews say that they are DOA

[slim escarp]

@winter iris did you download anything recently

[late helm]

rod go to You Tube type in upgrade BIOs many videos

[idle compass]

Okay

[little osprey]

anyone

can help

[winter iris]

@slim escarp 2 software 1 for mobo to control fan RGB fusion 2.0 and ICU for ram

[little osprey]

i tried the pcmr discord and no one helped

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey 2sec

[winter iris]

@slim escarp ICUE

[little osprey]

ok

[desert gulch]

Theres a buildapc discord that could be useful too

[little osprey]

send link/

?

[slim escarp]

Try and redownload the software ones because something may have gone wrong

[desert gulch]

Ok

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey intel or amd?

[little osprey]

amd r5 3600x

[winter iris]

@slim escarp u mean i totaly removing it and re-install ?

[late helm]

amd better and cheaper

[desert gulch]

oh i cant send invite link

ill dm it to you

[little osprey]

with intergrated wifi

ok

[slim escarp]

@little osprey a520/ac has wifi 5

[little osprey]

any

idc

[foggy hazel]

@slim escarp just no.

[little osprey]

just wifi

[slim escarp]

@foggy hazel why

[winter iris]

also i was using Aura sync but when i tried to remove it for ICUE i keep get the lighting services in use and cant remove it

[little osprey]

with a price under 200$

[foggy hazel]

because you are already limited enough on itx. no need to hamper yourself even more.

[late helm]

make sure the MB wifi you chose is totally compatable with your CPU

[little osprey]

yes r5 3600x

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#f=8&V=8000,6000&sort=price&c=145,138&page=1

anything on that list will work

[winter iris]

1 more thing to set me in peace for while @slim escarp

[slim escarp]

@foggy hazel huh

[late helm]

3600x good cpu

[little osprey]

i did but most reviews say they are doa

[late helm]

the 3400g i had many problems with

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey most reviews on vendor sites?

[little osprey]

no on newegg

[winter iris]

is quad channel 3200 mhz 16*4 ram with ryzen 5 2600 on Mobo B450 auros M good or nah ?

[foggy hazel]

yes, newegg = vendor

[little osprey]

ok

[foggy hazel]

ignore that.

[little osprey]

look im new to this

[slim escarp]

Yes quad channel is good

[winter iris]

2nd : how to check if all rams working fine with no problems

[foggy hazel]

as in, ignore reviews on vendor sites 99.9999% of the time.

[little osprey]

ok

shall i go asrock b550 or msi?

[late helm]

K use 1 stick turn on power if no lights on MB your good if not switch out stick and try again

[winter iris]

like how i know if there Failure in ram ? is sort of troubleshooting that provide me clear results ?

[foggy hazel]

@slim escarp https://www.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2020/news/amd-a520-chipset-specs_1.png

[slim escarp]

Damn computer stuff confusing

[winter iris]

@late helm u mean trying each ram alone

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey does not matter one bit. Look at the ports on the back, if the board you are looking at has the ports you want. then grab that :)

[winter iris]

like 1 by 1

[late helm]

K yes

[slim escarp]

@foggy hazel what does that mean

[foggy hazel]

@slim escarp the picture?

[late helm]

one stck at a time

[slim escarp]

Yes

[little osprey]

this is what i will be running an r5 3600x and a rtx 2060 non super 32 300 ram and a crucial 1tb ssd

[winter iris]

which slot is much pref in mobo ?

[slim escarp]

I’m new to this stuff too I’m just trying my best with research and stuff

[little osprey]

but i cant find the right mini itx mobo with wifi

[desert gulch]

why 32 gigs of ram?

[foggy hazel]

long story short: less flexible IO @slim escarp

[little osprey]

for hw

and games

[late helm]

usually the 2nd ram header from the cpu

[desert gulch]

you dont need 32 gigs of ram for most games

[little osprey]

so 16 is enough?

[foggy hazel]

all of the boards i linked could be "right" for you @little osprey

[desert gulch]

usually

[winter iris]

@late helm okay thanks

[little osprey]

ok'

[late helm]

your welcome

[little osprey]

@foggy hazel

[desert gulch]

naed isnt 16 gigs of ram enough for most systems?

[winter iris]

@late helm @slim escarp Thanks you guys .

[slim escarp]

What motherboard should I get then

[desert gulch]

unless you gonna do a bunch of renders

[foggy hazel]

as for: "you dont need X amount of ram". that is entirely your choice :)

[late helm]

Ryan yes

[desert gulch]

and stuff

[slim escarp]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M82MZZ

[desert gulch]

yup

[little osprey]

it will be mostly to play fps games and nfs games

[foggy hazel]

having a bunch of ram does not hurt.

[little osprey]

and forza

ok

then i will go with 16

[desert gulch]

depends on budget too

[foggy hazel]

@slim escarp re: what mainboard: with what budget and for what hardware?

[little osprey]

2x8gb at 3000mhz

[slim escarp]

I sent a pc part picker

[desert gulch]

you may wanna go faster ram tho

[little osprey]

is good or no

[late helm]

more ram the little better the game response

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey 3600mhz is what you want

[desert gulch]

ryzen loves faster ram

[little osprey]

ok

[desert gulch]

yup

[little osprey]

thx

[desert gulch]

ill send a link

[foggy hazel]

perferable what is listed as cl16

[slim escarp]

My budget would be around 550 I can go a little above but now much

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M82MZZ

[little osprey]

i already have an nzxt h200 case

[desert gulch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc

this is the good ram

[late helm]

but no answer for my rgb fan problem 😦

[little osprey]

ok

[foggy hazel]

@late helm patience

[late helm]

ok ty

[desert gulch]

altho mr1 says to go for crucial ballistics because more oc potential lol

[little osprey]

is aio better or a custom loop better

[desert gulch]

air cooling is best

[little osprey]

or just reg air cooling?

[desert gulch]

imo

its much cheaper

[plush wigeon]

custom loops are expensive are they not?

[foggy hazel]

if you have unlimited budget. Custom loop scales better @little osprey

[desert gulch]

they are expensive

[foggy hazel]

but neither are needed.

[little osprey]

my budget is 1k us

[slim escarp]

@foggy hazel what motherboard would go with this with keeping around the same price?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M82MZZ

[desert gulch]

ltt found air cooling was better than aio iirc

[foggy hazel]

Air cooling is very viable and much more reasonably priced :)

[desert gulch]

yup

[little osprey]

ok

[cursive wharf]

Only rather extensive if you look at mainstream brands

[desert gulch]

altho air cooling wont look as good as aio lol

[foggy hazel]

@slim escarp have patience too :) no need to repeat yourself :)

[slim escarp]

I know

[late helm]

had both water and air cooling found I like air better

[little osprey]

i will use a corsair aio but now will go with reg air

[desert gulch]

yes

[foggy hazel]

@slim escarp at that budget, what you have is good enough.

[desert gulch]

more peace of mind too with air

[little osprey]

but which is the best cooloer for an r5 3600x

[desert gulch]

stock cooler is fine

[plush wigeon]

The stock

[desert gulch]

if you arent gonna oc

[little osprey]

is it good for oc?

[desert gulch]

a lil bit

[late helm]

Lexical the stock cooler did me well

[desert gulch]

yes

[little osprey]

like i will not go crazy oc

like a small booost

ok

[desert gulch]

ok

yeah stock cooler should work fine

[little osprey]

does it come with thermal paste

[cursive wharf]

AIO rarely helps as it has same noise normalized perf as good air coolers

[foggy hazel]

@late helm looks like you might want to pickup a hub for controlling those fans :)

[little osprey]

or do i need to add it myself?

[desert gulch]

it comes with thermal paste

[little osprey]

ok

[desert gulch]

pre applied

[plush wigeon]

Noctua is good for air cooling

[little osprey]

thats good

[desert gulch]

so dont touch bottom of cooler when you unbox it

[slim escarp]

Is a 550 pro vdh wifi board good

[desert gulch]

yes

[little osprey]

nah i will just use the stock one

ok

[desert gulch]

ik

[little osprey]

now asrock or msi board

which is better

[desert gulch]

both are good

[foggy hazel]

your choice as previously mentioned

[late helm]

Naed all the controler I can find have only the 3 pin 5 Volt control not the 3 pin 12 volt

[little osprey]

which stays the longest

more durable?

[cursive wharf]

4 pin 12v*

[desert gulch]

both boards are good

[cursive wharf]

3 pin 12v doesn't exist

[little osprey]

and is 750w too much

[desert gulch]

its your choice

[little osprey]

or not

[desert gulch]

yes

[late helm]

I bought one of the 3 pin 5 volt for my rgb lights

[desert gulch]

you dont need a 750

[stoic island]

@cursive wharf think they mean for 3pin female fan connectors

[little osprey]

i will be going an rtx 2060 non super

[desert gulch]

ik

[little osprey]

so what 650?

or lower

[slim escarp]

What would be a better choice a 550 pro vdh wifi or a 520 ac

[little osprey]

i think going with a 600w is good for a rtx 2060 non super

yes or no?

[stoic island]

B550m pro vdh wifi

why would you want a520 when you can have b550 smh

[foggy hazel]

@stoic island very tight budget.

[slim escarp]

Well because of budget

[hazy rune]

I would spend more on a psu- that can get you through years of upgrades

[little osprey]

a series are bad according to bitwit

[plush wigeon]

Why not go 5600xt? It is cheaper than the 2060 and has performance similar to the 2060S

[hazy rune]

I bought an 850w

[little osprey]

ok

will go with that thx for the reccomendation

[slim escarp]

Is a Corsair cv 550w a good psu

[stoic island]

@foggy hazel I mean, why would you need to ask when both seemed to be viable options that are being asked for?

[late helm]

Newegg returns I give an A++ ... have had to use it

[stoic island]

:P

[desert gulch]

mr1 i has question

[stoic island]

yas

[hazy rune]

@slim escarp No, spend more and get rmx instead

[desert gulch]

i have budget of 2k for next build

what do you think of this list?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dHrQZZ

[little osprey]

whats the policy when i get stuff that are doa from newegg

[foggy hazel]

@stoic island because users

[little osprey]

and is that common

[stoic island]

aight

[desert gulch]

not super common

mr1 do u you like my list?

[stoic island]

nah

[hazy rune]

Newegg refunded me after seagate refused to honor warranty

[late helm]

Lexica just go to help and click return very easy

[desert gulch]

lol

[hazy rune]

A+ in my book

[desert gulch]

yup

[foggy hazel]

@desert gulch keep the jokes to #general-chat

[little osprey]

ok

[desert gulch]

ok naed

[little osprey]

so i will share my build and telll me guys if good or not

[desert gulch]

will do

ok

post link

[foggy hazel]

@desert gulch do remember, you have yourself asked for help. So please respect that others are being helped.

[late helm]

I had to return a bad R 2400g cpu this week and was very happy with service

[desert gulch]

im sorry naed, i will not do that anymore

yes newegg has very good service

my cpu was doa and they replaced

[slim escarp]

@hazy rune i can’t spend 50 dollars more on the same psu w while I’m on this budget

[late helm]

but would be nice if Newegg had on line tech support chat would help

on thier site

[stoic island]

They just redirect to here >:)

[late helm]

yes

[desert gulch]

yup

[late helm]

thinking about the R 3600 or R 3600x dont see much difference but price

[desert gulch]

better cooler on x

and better oc on x

[late helm]

R 5

[desert gulch]

yes

[little osprey]

are evga good psu or no

[late helm]

ty Ryan

[desert gulch]

some are

[slim escarp]

@foggy hazel i can spend pretty much enough to get the 550 but should I upgrade that or something else

[stoic island]

[desert gulch]

yw

[stiff salmon]

hey

[little osprey]

i heard that they suck

[stoic island]

@late helm 3600x the chip itself is just a barely better bin than 3600.

@little osprey then tell that to my G3 >:P

[desert gulch]

and it will come factory oc

by like 200mhz i believe

[late helm]

ty Mr1111

[stoic island]

it does have a slightly better cooler, so if it's like a 10$ difference, it might be worth it

[desert gulch]

yeah

[stoic island]

but when it's like a 40$ difference, it's not worth spending more.

[foggy hazel]

@slim escarp i would value a better ssd a bit higher, but its ultimately close to a wash

[late helm]

I will got with the R5 3600x than

Im on a budget or id gor R9 lol

[desert gulch]

lol

[slim escarp]

The only reason I’m chose that one is because I’m getting it for $5 because my cousin has an extra one

[plush wigeon]

When you getting your stuff?

@late helm

[slim escarp]

That’s why I chose only a 240gb ssd

[foggy hazel]

then, its your call @slim escarp

[late helm]

I have everything except CPU waiting for return CPU to get there

[plush wigeon]

oh ok

[slim escarp]

The case can support up to 3 ssd so I might get a better one

[late helm]

for money to buy the new one

I just bought my first M.2 for this build can't wait

[slim escarp]

Being 14 and trying to build a pc is challenging

[stoic island]

bruh

[little osprey]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3FqMZZ

is this good

[late helm]

Novey can't tell you how much You Tube help me with a new build

[stoic island]

lots of people build when they're 14 smh

[little osprey]

im 16

[late helm]

Its great

[stoic island]

@little osprey first question, why?

[little osprey]

should i make any changes?

[late helm]

Built my first PC when 256 mg was biggest HD lol

[little osprey]

@little osprey first question, why?
@stoic island for playing fps games and esports and cyberpunk

[stoic island]

eck

[slim escarp]

I need a job my stepmom told my dad she doesn’t believe in allowances so I can’t get one of those. My mom said when I come over her house I can do some yard work for some money but I only see her like once every month

[little osprey]

and sim games

[stoic island]

why does it have to be that case and mobo

and that ram

[little osprey]

i like nzxt

[stoic island]

and that gpu

I don't

[little osprey]

what

bad

[slim escarp]

Nzxt had horrible air flow 🤮🤮

[little osprey]

really

[plush wigeon]

I'd go with Sapphire Pulse 5600xt. Similar price for performance that is around 2060S

[stoic island]

god damn it nachos still gone

[slim escarp]

They look good tho

[stoic island]

I wanted to ask him where to get nr200

[late helm]

I have my 5 fans set to 2 intake and 3 exhaust

[stoic island]

NZXT is all looks no perf imo

[little osprey]

i dont like the rx series

[plush wigeon]

Why

[slim escarp]

I would say no matter what build get a mesh case they might not always look as good but they definitely help with air flow

[little osprey]

NZXT is all looks no perf imo
@stoic island whats that

[stoic island]

@plush wigeon uh since when

it doesn't even beat a 2060 >:P

[cursive wharf]

NZXT only good with their AIOs. They have terrible customer support do you only want to go with them when you really need to

[stoic island]

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/Radeon-RX-5600-XT-vs-GeForce-RTX-2060-vs-GeForce-RTX-2060-SUPER/4186vs4037vs4117

[little osprey]

so what mini itx case should i go with?

[stoic island]

@cursive wharf their AIOs also are expensive

@little osprey why do you need ITX to start with?

[late helm]

Novey you also can buy stand alone magnetic dust filters

[slim escarp]

@little osprey it means it has no performance but it has good looks

@little osprey what is your case budget

[little osprey]

i want it to be small and compact for my small setup

[stoic island]

I'm trying to find where people have NR200 in stock

[little osprey]

under 100usd

[stoic island]

first build?

[little osprey]

yes

[stoic island]

because ITX isn't easy to work with

for the actually small cases

[little osprey]

i have rebuild prev pcs

[vague maple]

100 usd for the entire build?

[little osprey]

2 optiplexes and 3 old acers

[vague maple]

itx parts are expensive, unlike mATX parts

[little osprey]

no for the case

[vague maple]

oh ok

[plush wigeon]

https://youtu.be/scc1tHSYAdc

[little osprey]

i like a challenge for a first build

i will be sticking to the rtx 2060 non super

[slim escarp]

What size do you want the case

[late helm]

I had only a budget of 600.00 for new build .. used a couple parts from old PC like power supply and 2 HDs still gonna get an awsome machine

[little osprey]

mini itx

[stoic island]

what about that video

@plush wigeon I literally just go to the middle of the video and it shows me 2060 and 5600xt at same perf, just like what passmark said :P

[little osprey]

like the size of the nzxt h220

[late helm]

sold my ddr 3 for 130.00 on ebay and water cooler so had a little extra

[stoic island]

and ofc games are always wacky

who knows

it's about the same pure perf wise

[little osprey]

i also have taken apart many laptops

[plush wigeon]

That is 1440p

[little osprey]

and two aio from hp

[slim escarp]

Wait mini or micro because nzxt has micro cases

[little osprey]

i will be going with a 144hz 1920x1080 display

[slim escarp]

Unless they made a mini because idk

[little osprey]

mini itx cases

[stoic island]

okay random 1080p part again

anyways

games are wack anyways

[little osprey]

yes

[slim escarp]

What nzxt case where you going to get

[stoic island]

I like to just look at pure perf

[little osprey]

the h210

black

on black

[stoic island]

I'm trying to look for the actually really nice itx cases

like nr200 and node 304

but out of stock

[woeful phoenix]

@late helm so you scammed someone

[little osprey]

Case: NZXT H210 Mini ITX Tower Case ($79.98 @ Amazon)

[woeful phoenix]

he deleted the text lmao

[stoic island]

@deep skiff wya tell me where to get itx cases

[deep skiff]

wut price

[stoic island]

around 100

[deep skiff]

also theyre all sold out yea

nr200

[stoic island]

wait I found node304
https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-node-304-mini-itx-tower/p/N82E16811352027

in stock

should be good right

[little osprey]

my current build is a mobile r5 3500u and no gpu and i get 120fps in csgo with all the things at the lowest setting posiible

i want a case with fans preinstalled

[stoic island]

it does have a fan preinstalled..?

[woeful phoenix]

cardboard case?

[little osprey]

like 2 fans min

[stoic island]

...

[little osprey]

nope

and never

its hideous

[slim escarp]

@little osprey the Thermaltake core v1 isn’t a bad mini itx case

[deep skiff]

node304 is decent but id rather go with nr200 unless u cant wait or want something that looks like a microwave

[little osprey]

i like my build to be stealthy

[stoic island]

lol

nr200 is nowhere to be found tho nachos

I know node304 is a wide boi

[deep skiff]

yeah thats why u wait

[stoic island]

why is there a single 1 egg review on the white nr200 lmfao

there's no written review

it's just 1 egg

[deep skiff]

its a good case

[cursive wharf]

Get the thin boi?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/V7wqqs/thermaltake-core-g3-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-1g6-00t1wn-00

[slim escarp]

@little osprey are you like going to move this a lot cause if its going to be in the same spot it will be cheaper and easier to just get a micro atx

[stoic island]

dayum that's thin asf

[little osprey]

no i will be moving it way to many times

[stoic island]

anyways nr200 is just backordered, weird shipping price tho
https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-nr200-mini-itx-tower/p/N82E16811119407

[little osprey]

Fractal Design Define Nano S Black Window Silent Mini-ITX Mini Tower Computer Case this any good?

or no

[slim escarp]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/M8Jkcf/thermaltake-case-ca1b800s6wn01 you can also get it in black

[stoic island]

it's a box

[little osprey]

ok

so i like the case to have front usbc

like the h210

[slim escarp]

The nano is ok it has decent airflow

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey Nano S is nice enough to build in

[little osprey]

ok

[stoic island]

but why

why do you want front usb c xd

[little osprey]

for future proofing

[stoic island]

...?

[little osprey]

and maybe hackintosh

[stoic island]

nano s is fine btw

what does usb c have to do with hackintosh?

[slim escarp]

How often do people upgrade their PCs?

[plush wigeon]

Once every millennium @slim escarp

[little osprey]

i like it to be modern

[slim escarp]

Huh idk what that is

[stoic island]

???

[little osprey]

so does the nano s have good cable management

[stoic island]

I'm just more and more confused

[little osprey]

or no

[stoic island]

why would you care about cable management in an ITX case smh

[little osprey]

and does it support the length of a rtx 2060

[slim escarp]

I mean if I get a budget pc how long do you think it will last

[stoic island]

again

[little osprey]

ok

[stoic island]

depends on the card

[little osprey]

with two fans

[stoic island]

@slim escarp you think we can predict the future?

[cursive wharf]

Its a small case, just look at the backIO for typeC as you'll rarely, if ever, need it.

[stoic island]

because the answer is no

[little osprey]

ok

[stoic island]

yea just use rear io usb-c smh

[little osprey]

so nano s it is

[stoic island]

I hate how it looks when you plug stuff into front io ngl

who wants things just sticking up

[little osprey]

yes thats true

does it have good front panel audio or no

You guys wanna rate my new pc?

[slim escarp]

The only thing I’m going to plug into my front io is my wireless mouse

[little osprey]

Ok

ok

[slim escarp]

@little osprey I can try

[stoic island]

front.. panel.. audio..?

[little osprey]

Okey lemme take a pic

yes @stoic island

[stoic island]

The sound chip is in the motherboard..?

[little osprey]

i do quite use that on my old optiplex

[stoic island]

the port on the front panel doesn't determine the sound quality

the sound chip on the motherboard does

[little osprey]

oh ok

[stoic island]

for 3.5in jack

usb headset is

just usb, doesn't care about any of that

[little osprey]

i thought it was the other way arround

ok

does the nano s come with great airflow?

[foggy hazel]

decent enough

[stoic island]

decent enough

[little osprey]

and an ssd mount

[foggy hazel]

yes

[little osprey]

two ssds

[stoic island]

:P

[little osprey]

ok

[foggy hazel]

plus whatever is ON the board

[little osprey]

good to know

[winter iris]

@supple sand @slim escarp
Final thing i build my pc on this to check if there any problem u can tell me about
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LvtFt8

[slim escarp]

@little osprey get your Windows pro on eBay for like 5 dollars

[foggy hazel]

is that a serious build @winter iris ?

[little osprey]

hmm

What

seems bad

What novey

this review

seems worrying

[stoic island]

phew

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey remember what i said?

[little osprey]

ok'

[stoic island]

@winter iris is that being serious or no, because I have a lot of issues with that list.

[winter iris]

@foggy hazel that my build

@stoic island this is my current build

[foggy hazel]

ah

that makes a heck of a lot more sense then

[stoic island]

So you already have everything?

[winter iris]

yup

[foggy hazel]

because anyone doing a build like that from new ... deserves a slap to the back of the head

[stoic island]

mhm

that's just

[winter iris]

@foggy hazel ouch

[stoic island]

confusing

[foggy hazel]

its such a mish-mash of random parts that are just "weird"

[slim escarp]

@little osprey you can get a key of Windows pro for 5 dollars on eBay and get a rtx 2060 for 320 dollars

[stoic island]

mhm

especially the 1050ti just

[foggy hazel]

but again, its not relevant to comment on if its just a current build.

[little osprey]

@slim escarp ok thanks

[stoic island]

@winter iris so what part do you want us to look at?

[winter iris]

@foggy hazel @stoic island i mean all of them cuz atm i keep facing BSOD

after ram purchases recently

[stoic island]

I wouldn't doubt it if your poor mobo can't handle that xD

[winter iris]

beside that i dk from where i can enhance my build and to what ! 😦

@stoic island Mobo might be the problem ?

[stoic island]

I mean, dr 2dpc even just 3200mhzcl16 is going to be hard on a cheap-ish motherboard running 2nd gen Ryzen

[little osprey]

this good

or no

[vague maple]

can't read the list

[stoic island]

use pcpartpicker

[little osprey]

hmm

[vague maple]

send a link maybe?

[little osprey]

ok

[vague maple]

yeah use pcpartpicker

[winter iris]

@stoic island that why i keep getting Freezes while streaming ?

[stoic island]

how's this

[slim escarp]

@little osprey also you don’t need 4x16 Gb of ram the most you will need is 2x16

[stoic island]

try running your ram at stock

xmp off

[winter iris]

i forgot logitech c922

[little osprey]

here

[stoic island]

why

[vague maple]

why a pdf lmao

[stoic island]

@little osprey just use pcpartpicker.com smh

[little osprey]

ok

[vague maple]

yeah

[slim escarp]

Damn

[wheat axle]

hey guys, is 5800x+3070 or 5600x+3080 better for 1080p 240hz?

[little osprey]

Ok great

[stoic island]

we'll have to see

likely 5600x+3080

[slim escarp]

I’m going to order my cpu soon even though I’ll probably get my other parts in December just because I know it’ll probably go out of stock near Christmas

[vague maple]

5800X imo

[winter iris]

@stoic island so my weakest part atm is Mobo ?

cant handle all of there parts ?

[stoic island]

weakest in terms of performance?

no

[vague maple]

1080p is quite cpu bound and 240hz is a high refresh rate to be targeting

[stoic island]

The thing is you just went WAYYY WAYYYY overkill on ram :P

[wheat axle]

ill mostly be playing cod and other fps games

[vague maple]

not cpu bound but you know what i mean

[winter iris]

i mean i keep getting random freezes or BSOD while streaming valorant

[stoic island]

@vague maple we'll have to see

[vague maple]

all the 3000 series will blow 1080p out of the water

[stoic island]

no idea on 5600x perf

[vague maple]

what really matter is how much of a bottleneck is there with the cpus

that is true

[stoic island]

I wouldn't give a certain answer yet

[vague maple]

same

[stoic island]

and remember how bottlenecking works

[vague maple]

that's why i said imo

[stoic island]

weak CPU doesn't just chop off the excess fps

[plush wigeon]

according to some info the 5600x has amazing single thread performance

[vague maple]

i wouldn't trust any info

just wait for them to release

[stoic island]

3600+3080 is going to beat 3700x+2080ti for example

we know that

for sure

at 1080p

[vague maple]

and 3rd person party programs to test them

yeah

[stoic island]

so that can apply to Zen 3

[winter iris]

@stoic island so for now current time Mobo kinda weak to handle those parts

[wheat axle]

im just transferring from console to pc so i m kinda big noob lel

[stoic island]

but I'd wait for reviews.

[vague maple]

mhmm

but the way it's going

[stoic island]

@winter iris Motherboard is ONLY WEAK for the ram

[vague maple]

i would say most likely

[stoic island]

And remember how ram on Ryzen works

[vague maple]

the 5800X 3070 is the better combo imo

[winter iris]

@stoic island how ?

[wheat axle]

most ppl told me 3080 would be overkill for 1080p

[vague maple]

just because both the gpus can easily get 240 fps on 1080p

it is overkill for 1080p

[stoic island]

Zen 2 has a better IMC than Zen+

[vague maple]

people who use it at 1080p are using it for competitive gaming, which requires very high frame rates

[wheat axle]

and on the amd site it says that 5800x will be better for high fps but not sure how trustworthy that is lul

[stoic island]

@wheat axle it's really debatable, it's definitely overkill for 1080p144hz, a slightly overkill for 1080p240hz, or just about right for 1080p360hz

[little osprey]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cjrQZZ

here

full build

good

or not

[stoic island]

no

[vague maple]

ty

[stoic island]

I no like

[vague maple]

first thing i saw

3600xt

nope

[stoic island]

I edit now

[vague maple]

nope

nope

[little osprey]

why

[wheat axle]

@stoic island is that the 3070 or 80?

[little osprey]

should i change

[winter iris]

@stoic island so how ram work with ryzen ?

[wheat axle]

this is the build i made for 5800x

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/XfsFt8

[vague maple]

i would highly suggest going with 3600 mhz ram

[stoic island]

@wheat axle we don't even know how 3070 performs so what do you think I'm talking about :P

[vague maple]

i think gskill ripjaws has a 3600 cl16

[stoic island]

@winter iris I'm saying CPU plays a part too

[little osprey]

ok

i will

[vague maple]

yep gskill has it

for the same price

but no rgb

[winter iris]

sorry for my weak knowledge but which better zen 2 or zen+ ?

[vague maple]

crucial ballistics as well

[plush wigeon]

https://www.pcmag.com/news/amds-5600x-chip-claims-top-score-in-single-threaded-performance?amp=true

[vague maple]

you can get the crucial ballistics rgb for 90 dollars if you really want rgb

wait the 5600X is better than the 5800X and 5900X in single threaded performance?

[stoic island]

@vague maple how are we supposed to know

[little osprey]

is oloy good ram or no

[winter iris]

@stoic island so what is my best option now? removing 2 slots of ram ? or or turning xmp off ?

[stoic island]

@plush wigeon I don't like trusting leaks

[vague maple]

same

[little osprey]

same

[stoic island]

@winter iris I asked you to turn off xmp to test if that was the actual issue :P

[vague maple]

is oloy good ram or no
@little osprey its a popular budget ram

but why do you want oloy?

[little osprey]

'cheap

[slim escarp]

@little osprey ok budget option

[vague maple]

g.skill ripjaws is for the same price and it's a very good ram

ah

[little osprey]

ok

i want rgb

[stoic island]

@plush wigeon remember that "10900k 90c stock under 280mm aio" thing we all believed a while ago?

[vague maple]

ah

there it is

[stoic island]

@little osprey fixed list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qF2w68

[slim escarp]

@little osprey rgb makes your gaming 10 percent better

[plush wigeon]

No. Wasn't around then

[stoic island]

thought you were

oh well

[late helm]

someone said I scam someone ? how and what never have

[stoic island]

completely false

[late helm]

saw in email

[winter iris]

@stoic island alright if that option did not solve should i reduce number of ram usage to 2 from 4 ?

[little osprey]

ok thx

[vague maple]

yeah that's a much better build by @stoic island

[little osprey]

will change

[slim escarp]

I know it’s a joke

[stoic island]

@little osprey I would like to ask you a question, how do you plan on looking at your ram rgb with a solid side panel?

[little osprey]

btw i only buy from newegg

[vague maple]

@little osprey I would like to ask you a question, how do you plan on looking at your ram rgb with a solid side panel?
@stoic island lmao

[little osprey]

i am going with the windowed one

ok

[stoic island]

@winter iris we don't even know if the problem is ram, that's why we're starting testing with turning off xmp

[winter iris]

alrighty

Thanks again

about that build from ur pov what is mostly need to upgrade asap

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LvtFt8

@stoic island

[stoic island]

for gaming?

[little osprey]

yes

[stoic island]

GPU first, CPU+Mobo next

[late helm]

had to wait til I left to insult me don't understand but didn't like it

[vague maple]

if you're going with a 2600

go with a 1600AF

[stoic island]

no

[vague maple]

same performance but cheaper

and it's made on 12 nanometer as well

[stoic island]

@vague maple tell me

where is 1600af cheap

[little osprey]

ok now i hop off to play csgo

[vague maple]

can't you get it for like 90 dollars?

[stoic island]

because I did save the 1600af listing on pcpp.

the 1600af being good thing is old advice tbh

[vague maple]

wtf

[stoic island]

and also

[little osprey]

anyone wants to join my steam username is TheNightFaller

[vague maple]

220 dollars?

[winter iris]

@stoic island alright thanks bro

[stoic island]

they already have the PC lol

:)

[vague maple]

oh lmao

but if it was 90 dollars, it would be good advice

right

[stoic island]

meh

[vague maple]

bruh

[stoic island]

I'd go for 3100 at 115$

[vague maple]

hm

why do you have 64 gigs of ram

am i missing something here

[foggy hazel]

yes

a lot of reading :)

[vague maple]

ah

can you point me to the reading?

[foggy hazel]

just go up

[plush wigeon]

tldr please

[winter iris]

@vague maple well when i bought r5 2600 , 1600 and 3600 was come out yet

[vague maple]

oh ok

[stoic island]

S c r o l l u p

[foggy hazel]

@plush wigeon tldr? there is no tldr

[vague maple]

FINE

[stoic island]

@winter iris you mean 1600 was out, but 1600af wasn't :)

[languid nimbus]

they discontinued 1600af earlier this year I think

[winter iris]

@vague maple 64 ram i bought those it was there mega sale for it

that why i bought

@stoic island ya correct

i mean i bought 64 gigs or ram with price of 32 gigs

[plush wigeon]

oh the ram is already purchased?

[vague maple]

ah ok

damn

[winter iris]

@plush wigeon yup

[vague maple]

that's a sweet deal

[winter iris]

yah that why i rushed it

but seem it's overkill for mobo

[vague maple]

300 dollars for a 1050ti?

isn't that

overpriced?

[plush wigeon]

You can set the parts as purchased in pcpartpicker

[stoic island]

remember what pcpp does

:P

[winter iris]

lel

[vague maple]

but seem it's overkill for mobo
@winter iris oof

[winter iris]

1st time using it

[plush wigeon]

@stoic island you build beds with it

[winter iris]

@vague maple yah since then BSOD not leaving me when i start streaming 😦

[vague maple]

300 dollars for a 1050ti?

oh damn

you could upgrade to a better mobo

[winter iris]

@vague maple nah nah ,,, it was like 250$

2 years ago

[vague maple]

oh ok

[winter iris]

yah for gaming and streaming i got advice that i should upgrade GPU then CPU and mobo

[vague maple]

then storage 😉

[winter iris]

but i guess Mobo 1st , cuz i feel she cant handle all those things

[vague maple]

mhmm

[late helm]

only have about 150.00 for video card spent the rest on build any suggestions ?

[winter iris]

i mean already 6 usb ports used

[vague maple]

she needs to retire

only have about 150.00 for video card spent the rest on build any suggestions ?
@late helm rebuild your build

[plush wigeon]

@late helm get a used 580

[vague maple]

wtf no

[plush wigeon]

Yes

[stoic island]

@late helm are you asking for a GPU suggestion..?

[plush wigeon]

580 is a good card

[vague maple]

you can get a used 900 series for 150

[wheat axle]

is a 3070 overkill for 1080p?

[late helm]

ty BIOS

[vague maple]

depends

is a 3070 overkill for 1080p?
@wheat axle

[late helm]

yes

[winter iris]

C922 logitech cam
Hyper X CLoud
KB
G502 hero
beside 2 monitors

[wheat axle]

i want the highest fps in warzone

[stoic island]

@wheat axle is there ever overkill if you want low latency >:P

[vague maple]

i want the highest fps in warzone
@wheat axle then no

[wheat axle]

lmaooo

[stoic island]

people can yell at you for overkill

but really

there's still benefits >:P

[languid nimbus]

^

[vague maple]

people forget about competitive gaming a bit too easily

[late helm]

Im not a big gamer so GPU not that emportant

importent

[vague maple]

oh ok

[wheat axle]

is it better to go for 3070+5800x or 3080+5600x for a high fps build?

oh wait i asked this here sorry lel

[vague maple]

second one lmao

better gpu and cpu

[wheat axle]

oh wait

i switched them up

[vague maple]

3070 and 5800X then

[stoic island]

no

[vague maple]

my answer is still the saem

oh yeah

[stoic island]

wait for benchmarks smh

[vague maple]

wait

for

reviews

i was too late but my point stands

[dusky musk]

what a weird rotten discord server this does something about your work or family

[vague maple]

what

[late helm]

brb good chat you all

[wheat axle]

will do, do u know when we'll be seeing 3070 benchmarks?

[vague maple]

when they release

lmao

[dusky musk]

what a weird rotten discord server this does something about your work or family

[stoic island]

@wheat axle how are we supposed to predict if AMD will maybe screw up their 5800x, or if 5800x somehow gets a crazy perf boost, etc etc?

lol

[dusky musk]

what a weird rotten discord server this does something about your work or family

what a weird rotten discord server this does something about your work or family

what a weird rotten discord server this does something about your work or family

[vague maple]

goddamit we need him banned

[languid nimbus]

[dusky musk]

jesssssssssssssssss

[vague maple]

i don't even know what he's saying lmao

[dusky musk]

ban me

[wheat axle]

wait we wont see them like a day before? sorry im knew to this lel

[plush wigeon]

@lime forge

[stoic island]

@dusky musk learn some grammar while you're at it smh

[vague maple]

wait we wont see them like a day before? sorry im knew to this lel
@wheat axle it depends

[stoic island]

@wheat axle whenever NDA lifts

[plush wigeon]

Just permanently mute this gym No satisfaction of the ban

[lime forge]

he is gone

[wheat axle]

cause if i dont preorder i probs wont get the 3070 anytime soon right?

[stoic island]

I think it's one day before for Nvidia

[vague maple]

if they send out early copies to big companies

ty zacheri

[languid nimbus]

[ripe wedge]

he is gone

[plush wigeon]

ty Zacheri!

[lime forge]

you are welcome

[vague maple]

when is the rtx 3070 releasing btw?

[wheat axle]

29

[languid nimbus]

29th of this month

[vague maple]

ok ty

[stoic island]

4 days

[vague maple]

so reviews will be out pretty soon

[plush wigeon]

3 days till RDNA2 reveal as well

[vague maple]

because LTT and GN usually get early copies to review

[languid nimbus]

Reviews I think will come out day before

[wheat axle]

i hope they do cause otherwise im even more confused then i am rn lol

[vague maple]

the latest they'll come out is 1 day after the release

what are you confused about

[stoic island]

no one knows

about perf

[vague maple]

^

[stoic island]

until real benchmarks come

[vague maple]

^

[wheat axle]

which combo to go for, never actually played on a pc so i dont really have anything to compare to

[stoic island]

it's just a given tbh

[wheat axle]

i see

[stoic island]

come back again in like 5 days

and we'll have a better answer for you.

[vague maple]

which combo to go for, never actually played on a pc so i dont really have anything to compare to
@wheat axle dude, 3 of the 4 parts in those 2 combos haven't released, thus we have no data

[wheat axle]

alright thanks for the help!

[vague maple]

np

[fleet pagoda]

I found a site w a 240hz monitor for 229 and the other version thats 144hz is 10$ cheaper wtf

To me that sounds weird ash

[prisma stag]

check the resolution

[fleet pagoda]

1920x1080

[cloud oasis]

M

[plush wigeon]

Panel and response time should be compared as well

[wild briar]

Guys can someone tell me a good case for ryzen 5 3600

[prisma stag]

Yes

Corsair 680x

https://www.newegg.com/black-corsair-crystal-series-680x-rgb-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811139137

[potent prairie]

Guys can someone tell me a good case for ryzen 5 3600
A case that fits your mobo 🙂

and your budget

and has at least decent cooling potential

[wild briar]

What is it?

Can someone tell me a godly build for ryzen 3600 $1000

[little osprey]

whats considered high end cpu for intel and high end gpu for nvidia

[hazy rune]

@little osprey i9-10900k or i7-10700k and RTX 3090 or 3080

[balmy patio]

uhhh for intel im guessing the x series chips and for nvidia a titan rtx or a quadro rtx

[little osprey]

would a i7 10700 no k would be considered mid range?

or on the edge of mid range and high end

[hazy rune]

On the edge

i5-10600k is midrange

[little osprey]

is the rtx 3060 mid range?

[hazy rune]

3060 isn't out yet. I'd get a 5700XT

[cloud oasis]

3060 doesnt exist

[plush wigeon]

RDNA2 gets revealed Wednesday

[cloud oasis]

:feelsdankman: 👍

[little osprey]

when it releases i mean

[hazy rune]

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-radeon-rx-5700-xt-gv-r57xtgaming-8gd/p/N82E16814932299?Description=5700xt&cm_re=5700xt-_-14-932-299-_-Product

[wild briar]

Can someone tell me a godly build for ryzen 3600 $1000

[hazy rune]

Yes it will be midrange

[wild briar]

Can someone tell me a godly build for ryzen 3600 $1000

[little leaf]

@little osprey What is your budget and purpose for you build?

[little osprey]

okay thx

[cloud oasis]

3060 wont be released

[little osprey]

i want to play games at 144hz at 1080p

[wild briar]

Can someone tell me a godly build for ryzen 3600 $1000

[little leaf]

@cloud oasis doubtful

[little osprey]

@little leaf

[hazy rune]

@wild briar Please stop spamming

[plush wigeon]

Also I'd wait for benchmarks for the Zen3 processors

[wild briar]

Ok

[cloud oasis]

They wouldve announced it

[fleet pagoda]

Panel and response time should be compared as well
@plush wigeon tn and 1 ms

[little leaf]

Not really

[wild briar]

Anyone

[hazy rune]

I'll work on one.

[balmy patio]

hol don

im making one

[wild briar]

Ok

[little leaf]

@cloud oasis the 2080ti was released sept 2018

the 2060 released jan 2019

[cloud oasis]

nice

[little leaf]

the 1660 released march 2019

[wild briar]

1tb of m.2 plz

[little osprey]

wd black one i have

its 1tb

i think its good

but its pricey

[little leaf]

Pricey

Not worth

[little osprey]

yea get like a random brand one

i just got it cause i like branded stuff

[wild briar]

Ok

[little leaf]

Crucial P1, mp34 team, sn750 if cheaper than mp34

[balmy patio]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tJgfHz

@wild briar

there

[little leaf]

bruh