#building-and-recc-chat

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little osprey
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Hi

stoic island
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Nice

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As long as you don't have Vengeance rgb ram

old hearth
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Only thing I’m getting now and waiting for everything else around Christmas then doing the build

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And no I’m going trident z

stoic island
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Nice

little osprey
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what would be the best psu that i could get that is 750watts and is around $150

languid nimbus
stoic island
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Revolution d.f. 850w for 130$ >:D
@little osprey

inland parrot
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question why does amazon have low review on mother boards and newegg is the same too

foggy hazel
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because users can set fire to things and still blame others

inland parrot
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lol

mystic needle
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need help picking a power supply

inland parrot
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dont even know which one the trust anymore for review for motherboards now

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newegg or amazon

olive kraken
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I mean reviews are what people's experience with the mobo reflect

foggy hazel
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@olive kraken if only

inland parrot
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yeah but all the motherbaords that i want to buy have less people reviewing it or bad reviews

mystic needle
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thx!

foggy hazel
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reviews = everything from the moment they click buy to the moment they write the review.

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its on you to figure out if the text on the screen is actually relevant

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there are PLENTY of reviews that are "bad" because it was delivered late

stoic island
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Ignoring random Amazon and Newegg reviews is usually a good idea

foggy hazel
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or because they forgot to read the manual

olive kraken
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if 100 people on amazon got x mobo and it sucked for them and the reviews are awful it doesn't mean that the other 10000000 people that bought it not on Newegg or amazon or didn't write a review at all. You would see the best mobo ever with 0/100 in reviews an 0 stars

inland parrot
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yeah that too

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WHAATT

mystic needle
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just read the bad ones and if they say something dumb then that’s how u know

inland parrot
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REALLY

foggy hazel
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i have personally written exactly 1 mainboard review on a site in my life

stoic island
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hey look

olive kraken
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Ignoring random Amazon and Newegg reviews is usually a good idea
@stoic island What he said, I think in terms of a product like a mobo u r better off asking somewhere like here or go to LTT forum etc

stoic island
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I made like 0 reviews of anything in my PC so far

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I've enjoyed most of it

olive kraken
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^

foggy hazel
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it arrived in 4 pieces and support did not want to listen

inland parrot
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LOL

stoic island
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except for the team ram and ssd

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had issues

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I didn't even review them badly

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I might've did a review on one

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but the point is, a lot of people don't review when things go correctly

inland parrot
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that makes sense

stoic island
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It's a bit of a survivorship bias

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a majority of the real reviews you see are those when things go badly

inland parrot
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oh so, going on the real website where they have the iteam is the best place like the MSI website will tell you the pros and the cons and what the stuff are for example https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B550-A-PRO

foggy hazel
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read actual reviews of it

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read

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not watch

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read

inland parrot
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yeah

wet pawn
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lol naed "it arrived in 4 pieces" aka "I got really mad at the front panel connectors and- I mean it arrived in 4 pieces."

foggy hazel
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nah

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the actual pcb was completely trashed in the box

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and the box itself was pristine

wet pawn
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yeah that sucks, i was just joking

foggy hazel
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meaning, it was NOT the shipping

inland parrot
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so this is the question I have to ask, If i were to go with b550 with model, and if i would have to go with x570 which model, excluding the price for both.

foggy hazel
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also, it takes a LOT of force to actually break a pcb

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i will admit, i did not shed a single tear when that company went belly up a year later

olive kraken
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Think this mobo decent?

foggy hazel
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it is

olive kraken
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is there a mini itx that has FP usb c?

foggy hazel
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why not 3600cl16?

olive kraken
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oh when I bought the ram it was out of stock

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mb I should upload what I alrdy have

foggy hazel
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that has usb c front

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MSI MPG B550I GAMING EDGE WIFI

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same

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ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ax

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same

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Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Impact Mini DTX

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same

olive kraken
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oki thx

inland parrot
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So does the Socket AM4 support future cpus and and gpus

foggy hazel
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you are welcome

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@inland parrot what does the cpu socket have to do with GPU?

olive kraken
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gpus run on the pcie lane but no.

inland parrot
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Oh sorry lol

olive kraken
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The AM4 socket is not rly future proof

foggy hazel
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last generation for AM4 will (most likely) be the upcoming zen3 cpu series

olive kraken
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after the 5000 series thats about to come out they will probs need a new socket to pack that much power

topaz hinge
foggy hazel
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not about power @olive kraken, its pin out for ram and such that is a problem

olive kraken
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so new mobo hence why not future proof ish.

inland parrot
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And how do i know that my motherboard is future proof @foggy hazel @olive kraken

hazy rune
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Are you buying from microcenter? @topaz hinge

olive kraken
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not about power @olive kraken, its pin out for ram and such that is a problem
@foggy hazel what he said^

inland parrot
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Will it say

olive kraken
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no

foggy hazel
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read again @inland parrot

topaz hinge
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No for newegg

foggy hazel
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there is no "future proof"

olive kraken
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mmmm theres limited upgrade path but regardless if u r buying now

topaz hinge
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ok

hazy rune
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@topaz hinge The memory is overpriced, and the cpu is probably overkill for the gpu. It’s also last gen.

foggy hazel
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and again @inland parrot you are not buying right now anyway. so have patience and wait for reviews like we have talked about before

olive kraken
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^

hazy rune
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@topaz hinge I would get a 9600k/10600k or amd equivalent and 5700xt instead.

topaz hinge
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yes but my mother is making me get an i7 and above

hazy rune
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Why?

olive kraken
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8700k

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there xddddd

topaz hinge
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idk but i gave hr and i5 build and she said no

hazy rune
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If you want an i7 buy it from microcenter, otherwise you’re wasting money

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9700k is $200

stoic island
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lol what

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@topaz hinge ask her why

olive kraken
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I am getting into SolidWorks and I don't have an i7

topaz hinge
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she said because it is the brain of my pc and its eeds to be powerful

stoic island
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and yea it's only a decent selection if you can grab them at a low price from microcenter

olive kraken
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I have an r7 cringe

stoic island
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...

hazy rune
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And what are you doing with the cpu?

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I have a 9700k for engineering stuff, it’s totally unnecessary for gaming

stoic island
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SMT op

topaz hinge
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ok but is the rest of te build besdies cpu good?

hazy rune
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Like said the memory is overpriced, you’re buying a last gen motherboard

stoic island
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yea

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last gen board + last gen cpu

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that's main concern

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oh and ssd

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and PSU

hazy rune
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Last gen not a big deal actually but you’re not getting it on sale

lyric thistle
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It's so weird that the 9th gens don't have SMT

stoic island
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Grab a CX650w or something at least

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CXm not so nice

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and then SX8200 pro/SN750/MP34 plz

hazy rune
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Yeah I have sx8200

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It’s fantastic

inland parrot
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@foggy hazel okay but can i buy the other things like the ram, cpu, storge, and psu

stoic island
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buy everything at once

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don't buy in stages

foggy hazel
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we have been over that too

inland parrot
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And buy the motheboard and the gpu last

foggy hazel
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get a hobby or something

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wait

stoic island
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go play siege

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

lyric thistle
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Only buy in stages if you have a fully functioning computer

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So you can test parts

stoic island
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get addicted to playing BDO

hazy rune
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Also Black Friday is a month away

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Just saying

stoic island
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there are many things to do

inland parrot
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True about black friday

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But i work black friday

stoic island
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so order online

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:P

inland parrot
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Yes

hazy rune
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You don’t have to go in

olive kraken
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on a real note tho, guys I am getting into SolidWorks(CAD) and I was planning on getting 10600k with 16gb bdie ram to overclock and have fun but now I am worried I will need 32gb of bdie memory but it looks expensive af

hazy rune
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In fact I would advise you don’t lol

stoic island
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I mean

topaz hinge
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yea in hoping to get the cpu and gpu on black friday

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any ideas for motherboard

stoic island
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No need for b die if you just get good ram for work

hazy rune
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@olive kraken What kind of models? How large?

inland parrot
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actually I do have to have to go in

stoic island
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@olive kraken good alternative is grab some micron e die that has a decent bit of headroom and skip on the expensive b die.

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if you need the extra ram

inland parrot
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I work at amazon and i have to work 5 day on black friday

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SOOOOO

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I will wait

stoic island
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when you're off work

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order online

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:P

inland parrot
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I have the case already

stoic island
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yes we know

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it's quite sad

inland parrot
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Might return the wifi that i bought

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Lol

olive kraken
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For now I am doing small models with a few 10s of pieces but in the future idk

inland parrot
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Its not a bad case

hazy rune
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16gb is enough for small models

little osprey
stoic island
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meh

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I'll do a quick edit

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then dissapear

hazy rune
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If you’re doing models with 100+ parts get 32gb

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You can always add more RAM later

olive kraken
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true

stoic island
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oh god what is that ssd

little osprey
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already have a 1tb ssd

stoic island
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then don't put a horrible SSD in the list smh

inland parrot
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@stoic island it is not a bad case

hazy rune
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240gb ssds have terrible value

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You can’t really resell them

stoic island
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and that's just a horrible one anyways

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dramless boi

little osprey
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the 1tb is a portable ssd so i want a small ssd to download windows on

foggy hazel
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then you dont have a ssd

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get a actual ssd that you can actually install more than windows on

inland parrot
foggy hazel
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@inland parrot check the date please

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what day is it ?

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as in, today

hazy rune
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Naed, he asked how much of a chance he has

foggy hazel
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@hazy rune i know

hazy rune
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I don’t think the day matters

foggy hazel
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you are missing the point

stoic island
olive kraken
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not high

hazy rune
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If you’re going by the history of the 3080, you have a very small chance.

olive kraken
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i f you want a chance Q1 2021

stoic island
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better mobo better ram better ssd, downgraded PSU because you don't need that much, cheaper monitor.

olive kraken
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minimum

foggy hazel
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Predictions about the future are imo a waste of time.

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and its also something we have been over with @inland parrot a number of times

little osprey
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thanks

stoic island
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:)

inland parrot
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Predictions about the future are imo a waste of time.
@foggy hazel
and its also something we have been over with @inland parrot a number of times
@foggy hazel yes we have

lyric thistle
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Predictions about the future aren't a waste of time if they're for fun

inland parrot
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any thought

cloud oasis
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free 3080 build

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2k

languid nimbus
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is there a reason to go with 10850k over 10900k?

foggy hazel
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@lyric thistle when its the same question for the ... 20th time? no purpose.

languid nimbus
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it's like, $40-50 more, but doesn't it OC much better?

lyric thistle
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I don't know the context :p

foggy hazel
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end result wise. not much of a difference @languid nimbus

languid nimbus
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gotcha

foggy hazel
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let me just double check @languid nimbus

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same chip

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so, you could say that the silicon that gets made into 10850k are the chips that cannot meet the internal testing goals for the 10900k

languid nimbus
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so 10850k is essentially just binned 10900k?

foggy hazel
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its chips that failed the binning process that would make them viable for being a 10900k

prisma stag
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anyone know of a good upgraded psu cable kit?

cloud oasis
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Fixed

edgy wagon
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My pc keeps crashing applications saying its run out of video memory. Whats causing this? I have 8gbs of vram and 16gbs of ram

stoic island
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What GPU?

edgy wagon
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rx 580

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Im running most games on low as well

stoic island
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Dunno why, but first thought is you got scammed and got a lesser gpu xD

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Try updating drivers

edgy wagon
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true

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this started after 20.9.2 on amd

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the frame rate is also consistent with a 580

stoic island
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Check GPUz real quick just in case

edgy wagon
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rx 580 confirmed

stoic island
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Kk.

edgy wagon
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Could be my specific card

stoic island
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Shouldn't

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Try rolling back drivers maybe

edgy wagon
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Ima update the drivers and test again

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since a new version released a few days ago

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if that fails I will roll back

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and worst case im stuck with it till I can find a 3080 thats in stock

little osprey
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What's a good card for 1080p 60hz max settings? 😂

stoic island
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Why 1080p60hz

cloud oasis
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1660

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I think hes joking

foggy hazel
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@cloud oasis you dont win a prize for answering first

stoic island
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@little osprey I need answers

cloud oasis
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What

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wym naed

stoic island
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@foggy hazel also, I got the prize though

foggy hazel
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understand the need of the person asking before giving a suggestion.

cloud oasis
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ok

little osprey
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Tv 😂

inland parrot
foggy hazel
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if you are trying to OC the pants of the motherboard? yes

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@little osprey what budget?

little osprey
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What ever I need to get 1080p 60hz 😂

inland parrot
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@foggy hazel LOL PANTS THE MOTHERBOARD

little osprey
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Mass storage tho

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Like 1tb ssd 2tb hdd or something

foggy hazel
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@little osprey depends on the games you want to play. and the rest of your system too

inland parrot
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yeah that too

little osprey
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All new titles

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Is $800 good @foggy hazel ?

inland parrot
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so like cyberpunk ,and watch dogs 3 @little osprey

foggy hazel
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what is the rest of your system like @little osprey ?

little osprey
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I need a list lol

foggy hazel
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ah, that is not what you started asking about :)

little osprey
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Yes sorry for sounding confusing

foggy hazel
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no worries :)

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you "just" going to be playing games on the machine?

little osprey
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That and school that's it

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Maybe video editing

foggy hazel
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hmm

inland parrot
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Yup that is what am doing too tbh

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nothing crazy

foggy hazel
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2060 or a 5600xt is the rough area you would be dealing with as a baseline

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2sec

inland parrot
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i might reduce my gpu to 2060 super then upgarde later

little osprey
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For 1080p 60hz? Lol

foggy hazel
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@stoic island you got a 800usd list on tap?

inland parrot
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running big games tho and using it for school

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that is it

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i have made up my mind

foggy hazel
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sure

inland parrot
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@foggy hazel me or someone else

mossy citrus
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Wait for 3060

inland parrot
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you guys think I have alot of money since I work at amazon

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not really

vital warren
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well for a thousand you can build with better than a 2060

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for example

inland parrot
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i see

foggy hazel
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@vital warren since you are around and Mr1111 isnt (at the moment), do you have a 800usd build on tap?

inland parrot
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HMMMMMMM

vital warren
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i'll check

foggy hazel
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thank you

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@inland parrot no, you cannot take that

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you have decided on what you wanted to do. Remember?

vital warren
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but it's a start

foggy hazel
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aye it is indeed a start

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@little osprey have a look at what @vital warren posted

little osprey
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Ok I will

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Looks good only thing I'd need to do is add the msi wifi board unfortunately and than a 2tb hdd

foggy hazel
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that is simple enough a change

little osprey
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Yep

foggy hazel
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there

inland parrot
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@foggy hazel i forgot what I decided

little osprey
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Appreciate it 💯 @foggy hazel

foggy hazel
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hey, its @vital warren you should thank @little osprey :)

inland parrot
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oh that

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yeah

little osprey
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@vital warren thanks 💯

inland parrot
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well i will

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but is anything that I should change for big games

foggy hazel
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@little osprey you could go for something like the 5600xt or 2060

inland parrot
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like cyberpunk and watchdogs

foggy hazel
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your choice ofc

inland parrot
stoic island
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:)

inland parrot
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Should i make this cyberpunk build or not

foggy hazel
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thank you @stoic island

stoic island
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quick question on factorio, space out belts in main bus by 1?

visual tundra
stoic island
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aka. 1 space?

visual tundra
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What do yall think ofthe parts i picked

stoic island
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@visual tundra simply, look at the list I sent above

visual tundra
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So if i pick the parts from there and buy them ?

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@stoic island

stoic island
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no

visual tundra
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Oh

stoic island
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it links you to where to buy them

visual tundra
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Oh ok

stoic island
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see dat

visual tundra
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Thanks its cause ive been doing my reasearch and i rather build my pc even if its scary then buy a prebuilt

stoic island
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lmao prebuilds scare me nowadays

visual tundra
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Since prebuilts die sooner than custom built

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But what do you think of my parts that i picked you think i can do better ?

stoic island
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yes

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1650 super at 800$ is weak :P

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as you can see by that list

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rtx 2060 at 800$ is nice

visual tundra
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Oh

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Whats a good cpu cooler

inland parrot
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@stoic island how come when I choose rtx2060 you guys hate it

stoic island
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what

visual tundra
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😂 lol

stoic island
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at 1000$ yes

inland parrot
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even tho i am going to upgrade in the future

stoic island
visual tundra
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Probably cause it does not go with the parts

stoic island
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1000$+ with 2060 is questionable

inland parrot
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true

foggy hazel
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we dont hate anything. we just strongly dislike waffle-list makers

visual tundra
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💀

inland parrot
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lol okay

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I want some waffles right now too

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even tho it is 7pm over here

visual tundra
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Anyways i need help with the cpu cooler

stoic island
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AMD 3rd gen : Stock be good enough

visual tundra
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What do y’all recommend? For a cpu cooler

lyric thistle
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Life is short

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Eat the waffles

stoic island
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see above

inland parrot
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yeah it already comes with it

stoic island
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Stock cooler is good nuff

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the one that comes in the box with the CPU

inland parrot
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yup

visual tundra
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Oh ok

inland parrot
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yup

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and unless you case comes with fans you are fine

visual tundra
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Ay btw why cant u pick a motherboard it only lets me see one

inland parrot
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already bought the case

visual tundra
mighty pelican
stoic island
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I'm back

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@visual tundra no

gentle mica
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Do you not have a motherboard

visual tundra
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It does not let me pick one 😂

stoic island
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???

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start a new list smh

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or even better

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:D

visual tundra
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Ok i will

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Right after im done eating

visual tundra
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I fixed it i put the motherboard i can do a better motherboard but idk much about motherboards

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786$ final price

earnest ravine
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@visual tundra

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so its like 827 around there i think

visual tundra
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Oh but my budget is around 600- 850 cause im 15 and i work with my dad we have a business

earnest ravine
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ok

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then yea get a 2060

visual tundra
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I ima still need a monitor a decent mnk a

earnest ravine
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im getting a 1660 as a starter

desert gulch
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get a better ssd ont that list

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p1 is trash

earnest ravine
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i got u

desert gulch
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get mp34

earnest ravine
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kk

desert gulch
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or sn750

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sn750 has sale rn iirc

visual tundra
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Ok

desert gulch
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its like 2 bucks more than p1

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with mega faster speeds

visual tundra
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I mean this build will be my first pc

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So im trying to keep it like good and have good parts

earnest ravine
visual tundra
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Whats a good motherboard

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Msi 450m ?

stoic island
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no

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B550

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@visual tundra you know you can send the link the the list right

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much easier to see than taking a picture of the screen each time

visual tundra
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Oh its cause im on my phone

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But thanks

inland parrot
visual tundra
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Whats a good gpu in my budget ?850$ i think a 1650

balmy patio
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@visual tundra if you can you should try to fit a 1660s or a 5600xt

inland parrot
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I WILL UPGARDE LATER WHEN IT IS TIME TO

visual tundra
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Ok thanks cause i want to play mw , r6, maybe fortnite but for school too

lyric thistle
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Yes

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Very good

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Bought Pure Power 11 500w PSU

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Like 60 or 65 bucks with free shipping it was

inland parrot
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@lyric thistle you bought pure power and its good psu right

lyric thistle
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Yes yes

inland parrot
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it will not explode

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nice

lyric thistle
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Roughly in the same category as Corsair CX I guess

inland parrot
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lol

lyric thistle
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Still leagues ahead of Thermaltake Smart kekw

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And the silly 80+ gold people who will only ever glance at a psu with 80+ gold will acknowledge you because it's 80+ gold

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Even though it's no better than bronze ones

visual tundra
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@lyric thistle thanks it cause i dont want to get scammed you know

visual tundra
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So i want like to put images in my cpu cooler but the thing is very expensive

stoic island
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@visual tundra again, RTX 2060 is good...

visual tundra
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Yes ik 🙄😂...

inland parrot
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yep its just the same as the AMD GPU just that rtx 2060 has more features

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like ray tracing which is kind of useless

stoic island
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?

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@inland parrot the hell you comparing it to?

foggy hazel
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vapour and shrooms i think

lyric thistle
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😳

inland parrot
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the AMD Radeon™ RX 5700 XT

visual tundra
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Thats my parts i think they are good

foggy hazel
#

no

#

just no

#

ram has to be 2 sticks

teal stratus
#

hello, first time poster needing some assistance on M.2 install

foggy hazel
#

you are missing a SSD

#

@teal stratus ask away :)

prisma stag
#

can some help me, my new case came with this usb3 type c connection but i dont have a spot on mother board, i already plugged in the other usb type 3 from case but there is still this one left

foggy hazel
#

nothing you can do about it @prisma stag

prisma stag
#

do i need it?

foggy hazel
#

its just a front panel connector

visual tundra
#

Maybe just a additional plug

prisma stag
#

ok ty

foggy hazel
#

np :)

prisma stag
#

pics to come when finished

visual tundra
inland parrot
#

@foggy hazel i agree it should be two 8 gb of ram

teal stratus
#

Have a ASRock B460 PRO4, and installed a WD Blue 3D NAND 500GB Internal SSD - SATA III 6Gb/s M.2 2280 into M2_1 slot

foggy hazel
#

aye

visual tundra
#

What do yall think about my parts

teal stratus
#

however bios says no M2 recognized

foggy hazel
#

@teal stratus 2sec

#

that is the same list again @visual tundra

teal stratus
#

Can't find anything in BIOS or MB manual that says I need to enable the port or SSD

foggy hazel
#

it was not good the first time, and it still isnt @visual tundra

#

2sec @teal stratus, just need to lookup your board

teal stratus
#

k

foggy hazel
#

just to verify, you installed in the slot closest to the CPU right?

#

@teal stratus see above

teal stratus
#

Yes

foggy hazel
#

could you grab a picture and send me a dm with it, of the installed SSD @teal stratus ?

teal stratus
#

sure, hang on a minute

inland parrot
#

@visual tundra change that mobo to a b550 because you will be able to upgrade to future ryzen

foggy hazel
#

no rush :)

teal stratus
#

Sorry for being a noob, but it a 'dm' just uploading a jpeg to this text forum or is there a file upload section?

foggy hazel
#

see the message i sent you @teal stratus :)

visual tundra
#

@foggy hazel i actually changed two things

foggy hazel
#

then you pasted the wrong link @visual tundra

visual tundra
#

Oh probably yeah

little osprey
#

When you spend $950 for your parts to find out your motherboard is hot garbage. 😔 (it works but constantly restarts pc)

visual tundra
#

I think i cant put it in it my be incompatible with a item

#

@little osprey heart been broke so many times 😔

#

Sad case brother

little osprey
#

Yeah tell me about it lmao.

teal stratus
#

K, uploaded

little osprey
#

I don’t have money for a new one 🤣

visual tundra
#

Lmao idk what motherboard to pick and @foggy hazel says my parts are hot garbage

#

So im kind of disappointed

little osprey
#

I’m new to all this that’s my problem and I’m a little slow not gonna lie 💀

#

Just do not get the Board or apparently any msi board from what I’ve been seeing on reviews

visual tundra
#

Oh the people here love the b550 idk much about motherboards

#

Maybe ut was just incompatible with your parts that why

little osprey
#

Yeah I see that also lol. And same I don’t know to much. Oh no it’s compatible. It’s just the motherboard just restarts for no reason. Was downloading windows 10 and did it like 8 times

visual tundra
#

Maybe a overheated proccesor from what i see in

#

Or your psu is overkill for the components

little osprey
#

Oh no that things good. Everything is good but that board most of the reviews where saying that was the problem

visual tundra
#

then most likely a factory build problem

little osprey
#

Will find out more tonight my cousin who’s been building PCs since 2010 will find out more he has my pc with him

#

Sad sad day lol

foggy hazel
#

@little osprey the board normally works fine

#

you might just have been unlucky

#

sooner or later there will be a dud

visual tundra
#

Yeah

foggy hazel
#

that is just how statistics of mass production work

visual tundra
#

Factory problems maybe

foggy hazel
#

or install problem

#

or a thousand other things

#

as for you @visual tundra did you have a updated list?

little osprey
#

Yeah imma just attempt to buy a new one but different board

visual tundra
#

Im looking for a good motherboard lol

foggy hazel
#

link your current list @visual tundra

visual tundra
#

Gigabyte b450 aorus elite

#

Or gigabyte B450aorus pro wifi

#

Motherboards

foggy hazel
#

those are boards

#

not a list.

#

link your current list.

visual tundra
#

Ik im deciding what board thats why im asking for opinions

foggy hazel
#

the board is the least of your worries from what i remember of your list

#

hence, link list

#

so we can get all of it fixed at the same time.

visual tundra
#

There

foggy hazel
#

from the top. the 2 things that are VERY wrong is RAM and lack of a SSD

visual tundra
#

Ram what do i change

foggy hazel
#

2 sticks of 8gig, 3200 cl16 is a start

visual tundra
#

Ok thanks how aboutt the ssd its 2tb of storage 3.5 7200rpm

foggy hazel
#

that is not a SSD

#

its a HDD

visual tundra
#

Oh wow i feel dumb asf now

foggy hazel
#

try and have a look at that

visual tundra
#

So the storage ? What do i change it too

foggy hazel
#

see above

stoic island
#

Win10 key :)

foggy hazel
#

aye aye, we will get there @stoic island

#

go back to factorio :)

stoic island
#

hehe

visual tundra
#

I fixed it what else

stoic island
#

Just seemed important to point out leading to room in the budget for better GPU and better CPU and other stuff :)

visual tundra
#

What do you mean

foggy hazel
#

he is talking about that windows key

#

you dont need that at all

visual tundra
#

I thought a windows key is needed

foggy hazel
#

its not

#

@wind tiger that sentence makes no sense.

vital warren
#

cheap $5 key on ebay

wind tiger
#

No it’s autocorrect

vital warren
#

no 100 for windows here

wind tiger
#

I hate being on iPhones

#

You know you can get windows for free right

vital warren
#

well yeah

#

but if you want it activated get a cheap key on ebay

wind tiger
#

Yeah

visual tundra
#

Explain in a less nerdy way pls

foggy hazel
#

you dont need the key

#

that is the simple truth

#

so. with that in mind

stoic island
#

Naed, any reason for 5600xt over 2060 other than price?

foggy hazel
#

nope

#

price is just silly on 2060 right now

stoic island
#

yea it's kinda sad

#

need that 300$+3$ shipping 2060 ko

#

without touching case

visual tundra
#

Ok

#

So for 5 $ i can get a w key on ebay

wild briar
#

What’s a good build for ryzen 5 3600 $1000

#

Rgb plz help

wind tiger
#

I got you

visual tundra
#

You can get a 2060

#

A z73 if you want

stoic island
#

no

#

:P

visual tundra
#

Lmao he can but he will have to take shortcuts

scarlet ferry
#

What’s a good build for ryzen 5 3600 $1000
b450 motherboard, GTX 1660

foggy hazel
#

@scarlet ferry no.

scarlet ferry
#

lmao ok

foggy hazel
#

is it a build? yes.

#

is it a good build for 1000usd? no

scarlet ferry
#

ok, maybe the gpu could be better

foggy hazel
#

and the board

scarlet ferry
#

what's wrong with the board

visual tundra
#

For 1000 you can get 2060 instead of a 1660

scarlet ferry
#

sorry, im kinda a noob

foggy hazel
#

might as well get a b550 board @scarlet ferry

#

and nothing to be sorry about

#

actual questions are always welcome :)

elfin burrow
#

get a B550 for roughly the same now right?

foggy hazel
#

aye @elfin burrow

visual tundra
#

Yeah

#

Why does the b550 motherboard not pop up in my pc part picker

foggy hazel
#

because you are using it wrong.

visual tundra
#

Well teach me the ways then 💀

summer dirge
inland parrot
visual tundra
#

@summer dirge looks nice

#

I like the build whats the case that u are going to use

foggy hazel
visual tundra
#

@foggy hazel is software a necessary?

foggy hazel
#

also, try and compare that link to what you get when you click on the "motherboard" link on your own list

visual tundra
#

Ok

foggy hazel
#

"is software a necessary?" <- what do you mean by this?

visual tundra
#

There is a sowftware thing on the part picker but i dont think it’s necessary righht

summer dirge
#

the Fractal Design 7 xl dark glass @visual tundra

foggy hazel
#

i have no idea what you are talking about @visual tundra

cloud oasis
#

Hes talking about windows probaly

visual tundra
#

No

#

Ima just send a picture of what im talking aboutt

vital warren
#

are you referring to antiviruses?

slow nimbus
#

Hey, can anybody take a look at my build and tell me if theres anything i could do better?

prisma stag
#

o crap i need help badddd

visual tundra
#

Just the one thats says software

foggy hazel
#

that is just a group

#

it does not matter

prisma stag
#

naed

visual tundra
#

Oh ok

prisma stag
#

ive got big problem

#

so i jist used dragon center and changed my cpu clock

#

and my screen turned off

#

but my tower is on

foggy hazel
#

@slow nimbus ssd i would personally change to something else

stoic island
#

aka. Don't do it @prisma stag

foggy hazel
#

@prisma stag restart machine

prisma stag
foggy hazel
#

just hold power button for 4seconds

#

it will turn of

still roostBOT
#
Assasin_27#4275 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

slow nimbus
#

@foggy hazel like what?

foggy hazel
#

2sec @slow nimbus

slow nimbus
#

sure

visual tundra
#

Its gonna get fried

prisma stag
#

turned ot back on and nothing

#

screen black

visual tundra
#

Msi b550 tomohawk? That one @foggy hazel

foggy hazel
#

@visual tundra could you zip it with the unhelpful comments?

prisma stag
#

mdebug light is on

foggy hazel
#

@prisma stag is that after power off?

prisma stag
#

yes

visual tundra
#

@foggy hazel sorry 😔

foggy hazel
#

power off machine

#

pull power plug

prisma stag
#

how

foggy hazel
#

reset bios

#

that is what the mainboard manual is for @prisma stag

visual tundra
#

I was going to say unplug it too

foggy hazel
#

now is a VERY good time to get familiar with it

prisma stag
#

o god am i in bad shape with this

foggy hazel
#

no

#

you just did something that deserves a slap to the back of the head

visual tundra
#

😂 bruh

foggy hazel
#

and hopefully you learn something from it

visual tundra
#

I learned from this dont change the cpu clock

prisma stag
#

so it says clear cmos jumper on motherboard

cloud oasis
#

feelsdankman

prisma stag
#

what does that mean

foggy hazel
#

@slow nimbus i have not forgotten you.

visual tundra
#

@foggy hazel which b550-Apro ?

slow nimbus
#

@foggy hazel don't worry about i'm in no rush

visual tundra
#

Me neither

foggy hazel
slow nimbus
#

Is it faster/more durable?

foggy hazel
#

both

#

:)

slow nimbus
#

lol, understood

#

should i get it with the heatsink?

#

Also, what about the cooling for the cpu? is the 120 AIO fine?

prisma stag
#

naed

vital warren
#

i wouldn't get a 120mm aio

#

usually just bad

prisma stag
vital warren
#

i'd head over to #old-cooling for other suggestions on coolers

slow nimbus
#

cool, thanks

foggy hazel
#

let me just check, and ill get back to you in #old-cooling @slow nimbus

slow nimbus
#

10-4

prisma stag
#

naed i cant find

foggy hazel
#

look at the overview of the manual @prisma stag

#

there is a board view

foggy hazel
#

pure newegg build @stoic island

stoic island
#

ah

foggy hazel
#

and i would like to point out, the builder is a PITA to work with

stoic island
#

I blame not knowing on the Factorio addiction I now have

prisma stag
#

naed

#

its not there it just tells me to clear cmos jumper on mb

foggy hazel
#

hm, that is 4 days early @stoic island

stoic island
#

What do you mean?

foggy hazel
#

you are not reading the manual @prisma stag

#

i guarantee you it is there

#

@stoic island it was OoS and has a ETA in 3-4 days

prisma stag
#

ive looked all over this manual

foggy hazel
#

mainboard model?

prisma stag
#

msi x570 pro carbon wifi

stoic island
#

Hm

#

okay

foggy hazel
#

page 25 in the manual @prisma stag

prisma stag
#

i dont have a jumper cap

stoic island
#

side note Naed

foggy hazel
#

screw driver works

#

yes @stoic island ?

stoic island
#

page 25..? I see the cmos jumper part on page 39..?

little osprey
#

Ok

ripe quest
#

dont get a laptop dude a pc is better

#

also dont get a g305

little osprey
#

Why

stoic island
#

unless I got the wrong manual eh?

foggy hazel
stoic island
#

hm

mortal garnet
#

unless that laptop is gonna double as a school laptop that youre gonna take to class, take a desktop

foggy hazel
#

europe vs english manual @stoic island

stoic island
#

ah

ripe quest
#

@little osprey the g305 is a horrible shape

stoic island
#

Do they have English or Europe manual?

little osprey
#

What’s so bad about laptops

foggy hazel
prisma stag
#

omg its turning back on

stoic island
#

(I mean the person in question)

foggy hazel
#

heck if i know, all i have heard so far is poultry sounds

prisma stag
#

ty alot naed

#

wait

little osprey
#

What’s so bad about laptops

ripe quest
#

well they dont have good price to performance

prisma stag
#

it just did it again once dragon center opened

ripe quest
#

are loud

#

horrible temps

#

and you dont get as good hardware in a laptop if you built a pc for the same price

foggy hazel
#

@prisma stag yes, because as i said, you did something that deserves a slap to the back of the head

stoic island
#

:)

#

disable on startup

#

asap

#

Booting into safe mode should work too right Naed?

little osprey
#

Ik but the thing is I need to transport it a lot

foggy hazel
#

you did what is known as "click on all the things before understanding what things do" @prisma stag

stoic island
#

CLICK ALL THE BUTTONS

foggy hazel
#

and no. i dont have any sympathy.

ripe quest
#

@little osprey are you bringing it to school or something

stoic island
foggy hazel
#

When you windows is booting, press F8

#

and get it to go into safe mode

little osprey
#

No but if schoo, goes online I will need it

foggy hazel
#

and uninstall dragon center

prisma stag
#

then reinstall and dont click the dumb button?

ripe quest
#

how much are you gonna be moving around

little osprey
#

Every weekend

ripe quest
#

for what

#

a lan party

#

lmao

foggy hazel
#

basically yes @prisma stag

little osprey
#

And if school goes online I will have to go to my friends house if there is zoom meetings

#

And we go every weekend to there house

ripe quest
#

is school not already online?

#

well in that case

little osprey
#

Nope not in Canada

ripe quest
#

oh lucky

visual tundra
#

And it all worked out 🐐 @foggy hazel and @stoic island 🐐

little osprey
#

Ye

visual tundra
#

The two goats

#

Of the server

stoic island
#

I am Naed's apprentice

little osprey
ripe quest
#

well that laptop isn't bad, i guess it could be ok

stoic island
#

@little osprey what about throw that website out the window :)

ripe quest
#

i would take the 300 dollars saved and put it towards peripherals

#

such as a good mouse

formal badge
#

those calculators arent exactly accurate

little osprey
#

Ik

#

That’s what I’m doing

#

First I’m just going to buy the mouse

#

And the laptop

#

And then

#

Everything else later

visual tundra
#

Hey @stoic island question so when it says motherboard wifi does that mean its more easy to access wifi routers ?

little osprey
#

And I don’t need the best preformance

#

And I’m going into high school next year

stoic island
#

No, it means it CAN do wifi.

foggy hazel
#

you dont need my help anymore. best of luck. @visual tundra

visual tundra
#

Like it creates its own wifi

mortal garnet
#

no

formal badge
mortal garnet
#

it allows you to connect to it

#

iit does not magically create wifi

visual tundra
#

@foggy hazel 🙏🏼 thanks. For the help on the parts bruv

little osprey
#

Ik how to Meade a loan hosted network on windows shell

mortal garnet
#

you need preexisting wifi

little osprey
#

Don’t get it

mortal garnet
#

asus tuf is known for thermal issues

visual tundra
#

Once i get my parts and build it i will post a picture here to demonstrate it

little osprey
#

And bad screen

mortal garnet
#

for some reason asus did not cut out exhaust vents on the bottom

stoic island
#

@mortal garnet is it tho

little osprey
#

So should I go for laptop

mortal garnet
#

yea it is

stoic island
#

I know someone that owns an a15

#

no thermal issues

mortal garnet
#

I recommend the omen or legion

stoic island
#

I know I heard some talk about it

visual tundra
#

Asus tuff is actually pretty good its pretty under rated

little osprey
#

Or Helios

stoic island
#

but the person I know didn't have problem so they kinda nullify each other

#

so I just consider A15 for the specs

#

and I really like the specs for the price

little osprey
#

@ripe quest

mortal garnet
#

the specs for the price is really good

#

jus some bad design choices asus made

#

in that specific model

little osprey
#

Why are u on Henti vr

#

And should I get a laptop

stoic island
mortal garnet
#

i would get a decent gaming laptop and a cheap laptop

#

i almost got the a15, but there is almost no exhaust on it

little osprey
#

Legion 5

stoic island
#

So yea

little osprey
#

Gn

stoic island
#

I nullify the report of bad thermals with my friend that gets good thermals :P

mortal garnet
#

if you search it up on youtube, youll see a reoccurring pattern

#

just the lack of exhaust cutouts on the bottom and side

stoic island
#

mhm

#

but not bad enough to cause real overheating

mortal garnet
#

kinda sucks considering its probably one of the most bang for the buck laptop

stoic island
#

I still love it

mortal garnet
#

I would just recommend the legion and omen bc i guarantee it has good airflow

stoic island
#

price to perf tho

mortal garnet
#

but the a15 is a solid choice if youre okay with your laptop running a bit hotter than the competitors

foggy hazel
#

tag you are it @stoic island

#

i am out for the night

stoic island
#

@foggy hazel tag no tag back

#

I'm going to be out in like 10 min

#

:D

foggy hazel
#

its way earlier in the morning here, so no dice mate

stoic island
#

Aw

#

I'll just disappear then

little osprey
#

Should I get a laptop

hazy rune
#

No

little osprey
#

Well I go to my friends every weekend

#

I need it for school work

#

I need it to go between my mom and my dads

#

And I have to update all my games at a library or at my friends

prisma stag
#

Well if you know you need one, then the answer is yes. Get one.

little osprey
#

I’d get legion 5

#

Cause I get 300 dollar discount

hazy rune
#

Most of the time desktop + cheap laptop is better, but it may make sense in your case.

#

Laptop hardware is just meh

little osprey
#

Ye

#

I’m fine 144 FPS on games

hazy rune
#

If you're going for 144 fps I still wouldn't buy a laptop

#

Those probably run 2k+

little osprey
#

Huh

hazy rune
#

Is there any reason you couldn't buy a portable ITX desktop to move from house to house?

little osprey
#

Cause I don’t trust myself

#

And

rustic sandal
#

or buy a used one

little osprey
#

I want the portability

rustic sandal
#

go to hardwareswap, everyone is always selling laptops

little osprey
#

Those probably run 2k+
@hazy rune wdym

hazy rune
#

That's up to you

#

You seem set on a laptop, and no one knows your needs better than you

little osprey
#

Lol true

#

I want a desktop it just won’t work

hazy rune
#

There's two big problems with laptops that price can't solve

#

#1 is that you have a battery that will run out of juice fast while you are gaming

desert gulch
#

Thermals is once

hazy rune
#

#2 is thermals

desert gulch
#

Onr

#

One

#

Yup

little osprey
#

Capped at 144 FPS

hazy rune
#

And you may say "ok I don't mind it getting hot"

little osprey
#

I will raise it up

hazy rune
#

But it will throttle your hardware

little osprey
#

Ik

#

I won’t let it get that night

#

High

desert gulch
#

It wont neccesarily throttle the hardware

little osprey
#

I won’t game on battery

#

Well I might

desert gulch
#

Laptop hardware is made to withstand higher heat

hazy rune
#

It's not uncommon for a laptop to hit 100C

desert gulch
#

Exactly

little osprey
#

Ik

desert gulch
#

But its made for that

little osprey
#

I’ll just try to manage that

#

Like a cooling pad

#

So over locking

#

Overclocking

#

Cap it at 144 FPS

hazy rune
#

Undervolt if you can

little osprey
#

Raise it up of ground

desert gulch
#

One thing thats not great about laptop is upgrade path

little osprey
#

What does under volt do

desert gulch
#

Very hard to upgrade gpu and cpu

little osprey
#

Ik

hazy rune
#

Undervolt reduces the amount of power sent to the cpu, and therefore heat generated

desert gulch
#

Undervolt makes hardware take less power

little osprey
#

How do I do that

desert gulch
#

But also decreases performane

little osprey
#

By how much

hazy rune
#

It's the same as overclocking, just reversed

desert gulch
#

Yup

hazy rune
#

And possibly not modifying the clock speed

little osprey
#

How much does it decrease performance

hazy rune
#

It depends

desert gulch
#

Sometimes by a percent

stoic island
#

you really should do your research before messing with voltages and clocks

desert gulch
#

Yes

little osprey
#

Ik

desert gulch
#

Its jot for beginners rly

stoic island
#

don't go in with the "oh I'm gonna go down to 1v and it's going to be cool" mindset

desert gulch
#

Lol

hazy rune
#

😄

desert gulch
#

Msi afterburner time

#

Put all clocks all the way up

hazy rune
#

It will be cool, because it will be shut off

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lol

desert gulch
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Apply changes at startup

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Lol

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Then you gotta go in safe mode

little osprey
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I’ll just try to keep my temps down

desert gulch
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And delete msi

little osprey
stoic island
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don't ever apply on startup

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unless you have stress tested it to be stable

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I have learned from my experience

little osprey
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Are laptops taht bad

hazy rune
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Just know you're paying a premium for the convenience. If you can live with that, that's cool.

little osprey
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I’ll think about it

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Anyways I have school tomorrow and it’s 11 pm and I gotta wake up a 7:30

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So gh

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Gn

hazy rune
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Later

visual tundra
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Is the asrock B550M pro micro atx mother board good ?

edgy wagon
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My pc is only using 2gbs of my ram and keeps crashing... I have 16gbs installed

still roostBOT
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edgy wagon
little leaf
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vram?

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@edgy wagon

iron nimbus
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whats a good mobo to pair with my Ryzen 5 3600 and GTX 1660 ti

little leaf
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b550 pro vdh wifi

north echo
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yo, so im rocking a R5 3600x not overclocked. Would a 3080 be bottlenecked by it?

maiden eagle
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Hello people!
Probably a ridiculous question- do all Mother Boards use the same screw for M.2 SSD?
I wanted to put M.2 SSD into my old pre-built but the mounting screws were removed when I got it

north folio
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They do

maiden eagle
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@north folio
Thank you ever so much

wild briar
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Hi can someone help me with ryzen 5 3600 build

maiden eagle
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I have a Ryzen 5 3600 build
What did you need to know? I may be able to help

little osprey
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how do i put my 2 3090s in my threadripper 3 triden z royal ram in my LIAN LI O11 Dynamic PCMR Edition PC Tower Case reflective tempered glass case with 20 tb of space?

maiden eagle
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You need an SLI bridge to bridge the 2 cards-

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@little osprey what are you doing that you need 2 3090s!?!?
I mean, it’s kinda pointless for gaming

little osprey
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i do it for everthing

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everything

maiden eagle
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You just need an SLI bridge to hook the 2 cards together while they remain in their PCI slots

little osprey
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ok

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what if i got 4?

maiden eagle
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Unpossible they would say