#building-and-recc-chat

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next kestrel
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whats with the love for the MB311L

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thats like the 5th list with it haha

stoic island
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@little osprey for Ryzen 2nd gen and 3rd gen, and for likely for the 5600x, they come with good enough stock coolers.

balmy patio
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^^

stoic island
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@next kestrel I used it because it's good pricing, for 2 fans, and Demonmit said it was good when he built in it.

next kestrel
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mhm

stoic island
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Aka. the 212 evo in the original list you sent is unnecessary

next kestrel
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also the mp34 for 80$ is bad

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just get the 1TB variant or get the 970 Evo for the same price

stoic island
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Btw, I'm just giving you constructive criticism, nothing against you @little osprey

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Ram, 16gb is standard and good enough for gaming today.

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Storage wise, you gotta get a SSD in there :)

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Mp34 512gb/SN750 500gb/SX8200 pro 512gb, whichever is cheapest is the one I usually pick.

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Ssd is just fast, nice to have, much better system responsiveness versus HDDs.

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GPU imo is always the best GPU you can fit in your budget, for now, 2060 fits, so it's good, but if you got (you should) money saved by doing changes we outlined, something like a 2060 super at 400$ would fit.

balmy patio
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sheesh i think it was yesterday when there was a 2060 cheaper than a 1660s cuz of promos

stoic island
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PSU wise, good nuff. You can get a phanteks amp 650w for 20$ cheaper, or the seasonic focus gm 650w for ~15$ cheaper

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@balmy patio I seriously doubt it, last 3 days 2060 pricing hasn't been below 300$, and 1660 super pricing not below 250$.

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At least decent cards

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There might've been a single fan 1660s cars for 240$

balmy patio
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i stg i saw it on pcpartpicker

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it was a 2060 ko

little osprey
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@little osprey for Ryzen 2nd gen and 3rd gen, and for likely for the 5600x, they come with good enough stock coolers.
@stoic island Does the intel ones have cooler in the box

stoic island
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Bad one

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And not on most of their chips

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I think there's a cooler on 10400, 10400f, 9100f, 9400f, others I'm even less sure about

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I know there's none for 10600k and above

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Pretty sure none for 9600k and above with same logic

little osprey
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Oh alr

balmy patio
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sure i assume

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it doesnt hurt to double check tho

little osprey
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Ok

stoic island
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Pcpp does most of the heavy lifting

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And most of the simple things

little osprey
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Are any of the build guides good

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That the staff of the website made

stoic island
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Ehhh

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Usually no?

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Thing is, different communities and people have different opinions using the information we have

foggy hazel
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keep in mind: a lot of the people that comment there are people like yourself @little osprey

stoic island
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I'd like to think we have a lot of information, and can point you towards some of the best builds you can get, but there's always information we don't know, and preferences we have.

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And of course, PCPP has a very low bar for submissions

little osprey
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keep in mind: a lot of the people that comment there are people like yourself @little osprey
True ya

stoic island
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theres also quite a low bar for me being be but oh well, I think I know a bit of things

little osprey
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How much expierence do you have with this kind of this stuff

foggy hazel
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he has the collective backing of the people here in the community

stoic island
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Naed has a few decades iirc?

foggy hazel
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if what he says is absolute bollocks, he would have been told that by now :)

stoic island
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I have about a year of learning from other people here :)

little osprey
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O dang nice

balmy patio
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yeah

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pretty nice information in my opinion

stoic island
mystic needle
foggy hazel
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@mystic needle that is the wrong link :)

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look in yellow area :)

mystic needle
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oops! thank u 😅

mild trout
mystic needle
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so some1 made this for me but not sure how good

foggy hazel
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darn @mild trout :D

stoic island
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Whew

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That looks nice

cloud oasis
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Take out cpu cooler @mystic needle amd comes with good stock one

next kestrel
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hehehehe

little leaf
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@next kestrel a 2070 for 450 is a bad deal

stoic island
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Mhm

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400$ for non-super new

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Is average

west hollow
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hey i’m really new to pcs (have only ever had a console) and need a lot of help, i know near to nothing about everything so some help would be appreciated my budget is around £800-£900 and its sole purpose will be gaming

foggy hazel
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@west hollow that budget is for everything right?

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as in, machine, monitor, keyboard/mouse etc?

mystic needle
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okay cntrlkey!

west hollow
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well i’m not making a full switch to keyboard and mouse for now and i have a budget one already but a monitor is needed

stoic island
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I mean, you need keyboard and mouse and monitor to use a PC...

west hollow
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i know that

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i said i have a budget one for now

foggy hazel
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@west hollow with that budget, i would honestly just buy one of the new consoles

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you will get so much more hardware for the money

hazy rune
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Just don’t buy a laptop

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No matter what you do

foggy hazel
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(and for the lurkers, notice its in Pounds. NOT usd.)

dry pine
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naed what do you mean that the new console have better hardware? you cant upgrade that junk, you can get a way more powerful pc for 900$

foggy hazel
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notice. the currency

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thats the first thing

dry pine
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oh

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well

foggy hazel
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second. Please go and read up on what the consoles actually have as hardware

dry pine
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1,164.37 United States Dollar

foggy hazel
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yes, except prices are higher over there

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i should know, i live right next door :)

dry pine
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ok...... again consoles may be more cost effective but still. he said he HAD a console and said he wants to try to pc gaming?

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xbox is never going to get mouse and keyboard support soooooooo.

west hollow
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yeah i’ve currently got a ps4 however many of my friends are moving to pc and tbh i don’t really want a next generation console if i could help it, what about £900 on a pc alone would that be able to get me a somewhat decent build?

dry pine
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yes, prices are going to be more expesive in europe but that is a good budget.

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it may not be able to be as powerful as next gen consoles but pc's are upgradeable

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1 year later you want a better GPU and your pc will support it. consoles you have to wait for the the next gen.

cloud oasis
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Am4

dry pine
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yeah, cost effective, do you have wired intenet J or do you need a motherboard with built in wifi?

west hollow
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id need built in

dry pine
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alright

west hollow
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if it’s better to go for next gen console id settle with it or stay on ps4 but getting a pc seemed like a better option

foggy hazel
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@west hollow here is a "base" to work around

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Ofc the gpu can be changed

dry pine
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What tf. A 3070!!!!!

foggy hazel
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read @dry pine

west hollow
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a 3070 wowwwww

foggy hazel
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:)

dry pine
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yeah

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ima make a quick modification to that

foggy hazel
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so, keep the ! down a bit :)

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as i said, its a "base" to work from.

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keep in mind @west hollow IF we go by the actual specs of the new consoles. You would have to pay more than what that list says

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(yes, a small part of that is the need for monitor)

dry pine
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xbox and ps4 has said alot of things

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i personnaly own a xbox one s and it performs terribly

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im doubting microsofts or sony's ability to make a better console

foggy hazel
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yes yes, post the edit you made :)

dry pine
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working on it

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trying to find a cheap 2080

west hollow
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coming to think about it i wouldn’t want to stick to ps4 as mine is on the verge of death so i’d have to upgrade.

dry pine
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ok naed i dont know how but your 3070 is cheaper than any high end gpu

foggy hazel
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ofc it is

dry pine
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and in stock?

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alright.....

west hollow
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naed = big brained

foggy hazel
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no, it isnt actually in stock

dry pine
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AHHHH theres the issue

foggy hazel
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its just pcpp's lack of actual enforcement

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you are not going to find any 2080 cards over there in stock

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you can find 2070 Super in stock

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for about 420 £

dry pine
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one issue. is 512 gigs of NVME enough? i dont think so

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thats skimping

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heavily

foggy hazel
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remember

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you have a 1000 £ celing

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you starting to see the problem now?

dry pine
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yeah.......

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i think we are trying to hit the xbox series x platform too hard

vital warren
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512 is enough for now

foggy hazel
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so, could you perhaps inform yourself next time before jumping down someones throat about something?

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:)

dry pine
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J what kind of games do you play on console?

foggy hazel
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i didnt suggest the consoles because i LOVE consoles

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heck, i dont own a tv

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but fact is, they are powerful machines (the upcoming ones that is)

dry pine
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i guess yeah he should wait.... if only J was in america! we could get him a pc list with aio's,3070, 3600, 1tb nvme and 2tb hard drive, ect

foggy hazel
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which again, brings him way way way above a console :)

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so same problem at its core

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remember: if we go by specs: the consoles are 3700x, 2080-ish, 16g, 1tb gen4.0 machines

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best of luck doing that in 500-ish usd :)

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and yes, there is NO doubt that the PC will be more flexible in the long run

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but it is also just a much bigger investment hardware wise

west hollow
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yeah sorry for late reply but on console i play rainbow six siege modern warfare minecraft fortnite (don’t hate me)

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that’s about it honestly

dry pine
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oh my, Naed he definitly does not need a 3070 to run thoes games on 1440p

foggy hazel
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not saying he does

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the list which i posted was a "base" to edit around

west hollow
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i’m not really asking for all the frames in the world either just an upgrade from my current situation would be ideal

foggy hazel
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but again, try and edit away at that list @dry pine

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and you are going to end up around a 2060super (maybe you can stretch to a 2070super, but i doubt it)

hazy rune
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Looks pretty good to me

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You could always trade the monitor for 1440p 60hz

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Up to you what you prefer

dry pine
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yeah, cant get the price any lower got it to 1133pounds, the main roadblock is the monitor

foggy hazel
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aye

dry pine
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but if he doesnt have a 144hz monitor he will get tearing

foggy hazel
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and the general price level

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again, it can be pushed lower

dry pine
foggy hazel
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but the parts will not be anything i would ever personally build with

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that price is 2070super territory for the GPU :)

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you also forgot a SSD @dry pine

dry pine
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yeah, but your NVME was 90 pounds

west hollow
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i have also been looking into prebuilts and the only reason for that is because from some websites you can pay monthly which would mean i’d be able to get a better pc rather than buying parts and building my own

foggy hazel
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yours is a HDD

dry pine
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prebuilts may be a good course of action

foggy hazel
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ssd HAS to go in there.

dry pine
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they purchase their parts from elsewhere where they can get it cheapest

foggy hazel
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either in 2.5 format or in m.2 format.

dry pine
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normally in bulk

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yeah ignore my list

foggy hazel
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but it is NOT something you can go without :)

dry pine
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lets try to find J a nice prebuilt

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that has good hardware

foggy hazel
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not going to happen

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you are looking at the wrong time

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you are right in between refreshes

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if you notice the amount of cards "not showing a price" in pcpp

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that tells you a LOT :)

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its the same for most of the other countries here in EU

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you can "see" the channel drying in that regard :)

dry pine
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yeah

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i give up

foggy hazel
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its not that i enjoy recommending the console

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but ... yeah :)

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it would not be fair to not do it

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@dry pine just for following it to the door

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try and have a look at the parts being used

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specifically mainboard and ram

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so, dont feel bad about your previous list, far from it :)

dry pine
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thats about perfect for a prebuilt and for that cost, but ive never heard of that site or brand

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sooo.

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idk

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wish you luck

foggy hazel
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scan are big in the UK

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so the site is legit

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but notice the mainboard, the "lovely and modern" a320 chipset

night iron
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That’s the crazy setup I have ever seen @brazen glacier How long did it take to setup all of that?

next kestrel
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only 1 case fan tho?

wet pawn
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Reposting here: I need help trying to figure out which ram to buy for my build im currently ordering parts for. asus rog strix x570-e mobo+amd ryzen 5900x (when its available for purchase) I have read that 4000mhz ddr4 memory is needed however I am not sure which 2x16 kit of trident z royal to buy or if they will be compatible I ordered what is listed on newegg as "G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 4000 (PC4 32000) Intel XMP 2.0 Desktop Memory Model F4-4000C17D-32GTRSB" however I want to be sure that the ram is compatible since there are different kits available

foggy hazel
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@wet pawn you dont "need" 4000 ram

wet pawn
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It has been pointed out to me that with the 5900x slower ram will bottleneck and since im building an entire new pc it seemed like the best option

foggy hazel
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and generally, until we have actual reviews, we wont know the actual differences with ramspeed and timings

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there is "this is 30%" slower and there is "this is maybe 0.1% slower in a niche corner case benchmark" slower

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we dont know what it actually is yet

vapid moth
wet pawn
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assuming that I do want to buy 4000mhz ram and I want trident z royal, with that motherboard/processor is what I listed compatible or do I need a different kit

foggy hazel
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it will work with that board

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the question is just how it will actually impact things.

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basically: have some patience and wait for reviews before you set your mind to a specific ram set.

wet pawn
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Ok, I'm stuck anyway waiting for a rog strix 3080 oc and the 5900x but my current pc is dying so I've felt pretty ready to get a new functioning PC asap

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thank you for your help/insight

foggy hazel
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you are very welcome

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and trust me, i know how annoying it can be to wait

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but it is "only" 2 weeks more, and we will know it all

wet pawn
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ive always built affordable but higher end gaming pcs and for once im going all out with custom hardline liquid cooling loop high end parts etc so with my current pc dying ive just been stacking boxes waiting

arctic jungle
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@vapid moth either 1080p 144hz or 2k 144hz, whichever one fits in the budget. 2k 144hz is abt 300-400, 1080p 144hz is abt 150-300.

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usd that is

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@vapid moth also do note, if that's ur budget, the cpu isn't included in it

vapid moth
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Would games like minecraft and cod be able to run above 100 fps on 1440p?

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Yeah, I know.

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I've accounted for the cpu

arctic jungle
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@vapid moth yes they would

vapid moth
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Alright then 144hz 1440p it is

arctic jungle
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cod defo runs bc of new nvidia reflex

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for me at least, when I tested it with a 2070, I got about 30 frames more on average using reflex

vapid moth
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Wdym?

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Ah

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Does that still work on AMD gpus?

arctic jungle
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oh nothing special, just a few games including COD, valorant, fortnite get a performance boost from nvidia 900 series up gpus

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@vapid moth no it doesn't.

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it never has lol

vapid moth
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oh lol

arctic jungle
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it's one more reason to go with nvidia over AMD
on the gpu front

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it's new

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came out a few weeks ago

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driver thing

vapid moth
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Doesn't the 5700 XT get more performance than the nvidia equivalent?

little leaf
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yes

arctic jungle
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@vapid moth what do you consider the equivalent?

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the 2070s or the 2070

little leaf
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2060s

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prob

arctic jungle
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2060s is a joke

vapid moth
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2060s for the price equivalent

arctic jungle
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the 2070 outperforms it, and costs the same

little leaf
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ik but thats the equivalent

arctic jungle
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lol the 2070 issss

little leaf
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yes

arctic jungle
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not the 2060 super!

little leaf
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isn't it only by like 1-2%

vapid moth
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Eh it's super overpriced right now.

arctic jungle
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in terms of raw performance, the 5700xt beats the RTX 2070. But, the upsides that come with the RTX 2070 outweigh the 2% difference in my opinion... Ray tracing, reflex drivers, etc. make it that much more enticing

vapid moth
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And I plan on building within a month, since I have no idea if this laptop is even going to last longer than that.

arctic jungle
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plus RTX cards will hold their value for longer, for when u have to sell :)

vapid moth
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Well I had planned on giving this pc to my younger sister when I get a new one.

arctic jungle
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xD yeah

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get her RTX

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or u don't love her KermitVader

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jk

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lol

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every kid wants RTX right now

little leaf
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whats the budget @vapid moth ?

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For total pc?

vapid moth
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1k

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Not including peripherals

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Oh finally, a 2070 that's not overpriced!

little leaf
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whats your current list?

arctic jungle
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send it over

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we'll fix it

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@vapid moth

vapid moth
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I'll probably switch to the 2070 though

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I was going for the 5700XT since all the 2070's I managed to find were totally overpriced right now.

little leaf
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I would rather have a 5700xt

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and where are you gettinga 3300x

vapid moth
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Wdym?

little leaf
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its out of stock everywhere

vapid moth
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Well yeah, but I'm not buying yet.

little leaf
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Its been out of stock for montsh

vapid moth
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I have a while until I'll-

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oh

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Also when something on newegg says "Open box" does that just mean the box has been opened but the GPU hasn't been used?

little leaf
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actually

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I found a 3300x on walmart

vapid moth
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Oh

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Also when something on newegg says "Open box" does that just mean the box has been opened but the GPU hasn't been used?
@vapid moth @little leaf

little leaf
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It could've been used

vapid moth
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oh

little leaf
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I would wait for rtx 3000

final breach
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aight

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final list

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any objections

little leaf
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Yes

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that this could easily get a 5700xt

arctic jungle
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Yes

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@final breach

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what is that monitor

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also

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why isntthe keyboard ur buying mechanical

final breach
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im upgrading it in the future

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it is temporary

arctic jungle
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just buy a 144hz monitor now

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it's 150$

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save 100

final breach
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keyboard was temporary also

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what 144Hz monitor is 150

arctic jungle
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-_-

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90$ keyboard... temporary?

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monitor i'll send link

little leaf
arctic jungle
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@little leaf sub that monitor in

little leaf
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I don't really care what monitor but I agree you should get a 144 now

arctic jungle
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why not buy a 144hz now lol

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it's lik

final breach
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I want 24" if you know of one

arctic jungle
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20$ difference

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bruh

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u don't want 24" with 1080p

final breach
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bruh

little leaf
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nah

arctic jungle
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22" is the absolute max u should do

final breach
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smh

little leaf
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24 is fine

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even 27 is fine

final breach
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not 27

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27 too big

arctic jungle
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@little leaf lmao don't take that too srsly... that's coming from a person who daily drives 4k 27"

little leaf
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lol

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I drive 27 1440

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and a 27 1080

arctic jungle
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@final breach if u rlly want 24"...

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honestly i'm not a fan of the pixel density there but again

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coming from a person who daily drives 4k lol

summer dirge
cloud oasis
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Looks good

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What gpu u getting

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Wait @summer dirge u wanna pay another 100 on the cpu cooler to get custom gifs

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The version u picked doesnt have that

summer dirge
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likely a 3080 20gb if i can or just get a 10gb

cloud oasis
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repo do u want the rgb option

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For less

next kestrel
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any reason for that case in general?

summer dirge
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future expression

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expansion

next kestrel
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reasonable

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at that budget, a gen4 or optane might be cool to have for boot drive

cloud oasis
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You can save money on getting the arctic liquid freezer thats better than it and costs less

summer dirge
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if i can find a 360 rad

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can only find the 2 fan version

cloud oasis
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ok

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how long until u buy the other stuff

summer dirge
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2 weeks are less

little osprey
desert gulch
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get that cpu cooler on there lol

pearl blade
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using rads instead of cooler?

desert gulch
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o

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nice

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5700xt itself says to use at least a 600, and wouldnt you want more breathing room anyway for future upgrade?

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ik with that current system 500 will probably work fine, but imo id get a 600 or 650

icy glacier
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Does anyone know how i get it off this boot menu? Don't mind the ram issue as the pic was before i fixed the issue

📎 20201020_204214.jpg
desert gulch
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f10

icy glacier
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K

desert gulch
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f10 will reboot pc and then dont press delete and you will load into windows or whatever os you got

icy glacier
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It just takes me back right to it. I have windows 10 32/64 bit which i swapped from my old case

desert gulch
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is your boot order correct?

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like try booting off the storage device with windows on it

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in bios

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press f7

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go to boot iirc

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and you should be able to boot off a storage device directly

little leaf
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@desert gulch a 5700xt does not it self use 600 wats

desert gulch
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ik

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but for more breathing room for future

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idk i guess its probably personal preference

little leaf
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not really needed

desert gulch
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but if you did decide to upgrade to like 3080 at some point

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youd be sitting right at power limit within about 10 watts

little leaf
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if you did you wouldn't be using that psu

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and if your upgrading to a 3080

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I think you are going to be upgrading the majority of the parts

desert gulch
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yeah ig

icy glacier
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Where do i find boot iirc?

desert gulch
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iirc means if i remember correctlyt

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i was meaning if i remembered right

icy glacier
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Oh haha

desert gulch
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lol

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ight imma sleep cuz i got mid terms tmrw

little osprey
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Alright question, I have a microcenter near me.

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Is it more reliable to buy from them than online excluding different prices

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I know it's faster locally

languid nimbus
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Faster yes

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Only problem would be if they have exactly what you want in stock

little osprey
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True

languid nimbus
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They may mark up prices in store, some do, some don’t

little osprey
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I looked at the FAQ before asking but do they build it for you? Or they wont because of liability issues

languid nimbus
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Yeah I’m not sure on that one. I doubt it, but maybe?

little osprey
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I assumed liability issues and you know

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Dropping a 300 dollar CPU isn't neccesarily

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a good thing

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(If the employee's build it)

languid nimbus
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Well actually, they may

little osprey
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Ah

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I got a friend who's looking to buy but not sure ot they want a laptop or PC

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If PC I'd ask someone for suggestions as my knowledge of PC is

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well to be honest my PC parts are all sorts of weird things

languid nimbus
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lol, that’s okay, mine too

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are they leaning one way or the other between laptop and pc? what’re they gonna use it for?

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if they need mobility in it for work or school, laptop would be nice

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but if it’s just gonna be home or at work all the time, I personally think pc is a better option

little osprey
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Well to be honest we play roblox and she has an old

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Ass

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Laptop

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Macbook which is worse

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I think PC is way better too

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I have her pros and cons for both even though I trashed laptops as I'm super paranoid of laptops

languid nimbus
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yeah, I’m not a fan of laptops

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does she have a budget?

little osprey
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Yeah she wanted 1k but she might be able to bump it up

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non pre built

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I think that's actually perfect

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Because she doesn't game a whole lot

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probably because of the laptop but still

languid nimbus
#

Oh yeah you can most definitely build a good enough pc for $1k

#

Especially for roblox

little osprey
#

Mhm

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I'm trying to get her into like tycoons on steam for fun

#

Or DayZ but uhh, that'll take some heavy convincing

languid nimbus
#

lol, I’d like to get back into DayZ

little osprey
#

I was thinking 2 8gb of RAM, Ryzen 5 (of something) and a good GPU

#

DayZ got more fun with mods

languid nimbus
#

She could probably go 3600x cpu/5700xt gpu route tho, few different possibilities

#

oh yeah definitely

little osprey
#

Mhm

languid nimbus
#

more fun with friends

little osprey
#

I played the early early version

languid nimbus
#

And she could probably go Corsair vengeance 16gb. Usually good price on those

little osprey
#

On my brothers laptop with horrible horrible fps and low severe low graphics

#

Mhm

#

Corsair or ripjaws

#

She also likes the look too

languid nimbus
#

Either or, not the ram expert myself

little osprey
#

fancy stuff

#

me either

#

Ripjaws honestly the same price as Corsair with the same gb in all

#

Only thing that's got me stumped is the PSU and uhh

#

Motherboard

languid nimbus
#

Does she have a monitor already?

little osprey
#

The case she'll look for something fancy

#

no sadly

#

I did find a good monitor with 144hz, suggested by a friend

#

Not sure if she wants a big one or dual monitor (preferably dual monitor but who knows)

#

I was thinking ASUS or uhh

#

probably asus

#

But not sure which one

#

Or ASrock I'm not sure

languid nimbus
#

I went big route on monitor lol, but due to pixel density it’s better to go with like 1080p 24”, 1440p 27”, and 4K 32”

#

I believe

little osprey
#

nice

#

probably need to get one of those myself, I'm using a cracked monitor and a giant TV

#

It works though

languid nimbus
#

If it works GWcmeisterPeepoShrug

#

you can find decent deals on monitors though

little osprey
#

This a good build or reconsider?

#

Might reconsider the GPU, not sure

#

Most def buying the external storage for myself

#

Definitely *

vital warren
#

140 on windows

#

no

little osprey
#

I know you can use a USB (with windows downloaded)

#

I need to go back in anyways and have it for amazon or newegg

#

(For the parts I mean)

#

But also near a microcenter so they could have it or something similar

sacred knot
#

is this a good build on budget? if not, can anyone suggest changes i could do to improve the build? (this is the first time i build a PC)

little osprey
#

I legitimately thought this was for me

#

Well I thank you because I'm gonna nab something

sacred knot
#

Hahaha sorry im not of more help im still an amateur

little osprey
#

Same

sacred knot
#

I tried watching videos and all but theres just so much stuff to pick from

little osprey
#

To be honest it's a good budget but I would not listen to me,

#

Oh yeah

sacred knot
#

Thing is i dont even know if this is in usd or in cad... 🥴😂

little osprey
#

What uhh

#

Region are you

#

Country *

sacred knot
#

Canada

little osprey
#

It's most likely in CAD but if you go into each individual one and see the unn

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Uhh currency

sacred knot
#

But usually for usd they write it as $(amount), and canadian they write as CAD$(amount)

little osprey
#

I think CAD is more than USD

sacred knot
#

Yep much more 😥

#

But im probably gonna wait till black friday or christmas

little osprey
#

Fair

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Though

#

I clicked into one of them and it gave me CAD

sacred knot
#

At least it wont get much more expensive than this

little osprey
#

Well uhh

quick glen
#

Hello

#

Can someone help me?

little osprey
#

You could surf the chats and look for a techi under the hardware stuff. I'm sure you know but I would ask them for help and then wait @sacred knot

quick glen
#

Hello

little osprey
#

@quick glen gonna be honest I'm a dunce to PC tech in all that

sacred knot
#

You could surf the chats and look for a techi under the hardware stuff. I'm sure you know but I would ask them for help and then wait @sacred knot
@little osprey will do thanks

quick glen
#

Oh

little osprey
#

So my ability to help you probably wont be good

#

yeah

quick glen
#

I need someone that is rlly good

#

Lol

little osprey
#

What's the issue anywayd

#

Anyways

quick glen
#

Internet

little osprey
#

Wireless or ethernet

quick glen
#

Both

#

It shows this

little osprey
#

Open your device manager

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And go down to Ethernet

#

Does it show any "!"

lucid swallow
#

@little osprey

#

U use lan or dongle?

little osprey
#

I use a LAN

lucid swallow
#

I got same issue with usb and I reinstalled all the drivers and updated it

little osprey
#

Did it work?

lucid swallow
#

Yes ofcourse

little osprey
#

What's your motherboard

lucid swallow
#

Just delete old drivers and install again with new

#

B36m gaming hd

#

B365m gaming hd*

little osprey
#

I've had the same issue before

#

I was told to look at specifications

lucid swallow
#

What are ur specs?

little osprey
#

B550 Taichi

#

It's fixed, well before

#

I dont have it at the moment

#

(Asrock)

#

But I was told to download software and it fixed the problem

#

i have i7 10700 and gtx 1650 and 32gb ddr 4 what should i upgrade plz advice

lucid swallow
#

Gtx 1660 super

little osprey
#

but rtx 3000s is coming out soon

lucid swallow
#

What is ur budget?

little osprey
#

for a gpu?

lucid swallow
#

Yup

little osprey
#

350$ and lower

lucid swallow
#

Ok wait

#

Let me convert it in rupees

little osprey
#

Honestly I'm no specialist but someone around here might know your issue

#

For me I had to install 2 different things, CPU drivers and then LAN drivers

#

Can't remember what because it was awhile ago

lucid swallow
#

Ohhh wait I'll give u a easy solution

#

Search driver pack solution

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On chrome

#

It wi ask u which driver u want and just install it

little osprey
#

I already did it awhile ago

#

i want toplay gta v at 144hz at 1080p what gpu is sufficient enough for it

lucid swallow
#

U can 2060

#

Aaman

little osprey
#

that can do 1080p 144hz at high settings on gta v?

lucid swallow
#

Can u say me what are ur monitor specs

little osprey
#

its 1080p 144hz

lucid swallow
#

Ok just do one thing search on YouTube , I think so it will work but do more research for gpus

vital warren
#

i'd just wait a bit and see the options at that range aaman

lucid swallow
#

I7 10700 with rtx 2060

#

But due to the current market I think so rate will take time to cool

#

I think so till January

#

I also want to build pc with amd ryzen 5600x

ripe wedge
#

@little osprey I would suggest waiting on the rtx 3060 to come out... it will most likely be priced around $300-350 ish

little osprey
#

@ripe wedge i have a 430 watt psu, an i7 10700 w/ power limits unlocked and if i were to get a rtx 3060 would i need to upgrade my psu. i dont plan onto oc it and i dont wanna upgrade my psu unless its really necessary

ripe wedge
#

yeah you would want a better psu

#

most likely a 650W

little osprey
#

even if i dont overclock the rtx 3060?

ripe wedge
#

yeah

#

the rtx 3080 and 3070 recommend a 750W

little osprey
#

i have a 1650 and i7 10700 power limits unlocked and it runs fine...

ripe wedge
#

so id assume a 3060 will need a 650W

#

yeah but the 1650 is low power

little osprey
#

arent those recommendations for people who have cpu that are being overclocked?

ripe wedge
#

no

desert gulch
#

No

ripe wedge
#

I think its an across the board recommendation

desert gulch
#

Its for normal user

#

Yeah

ripe wedge
#

yeah 650W should be enough with the 3060/10700

#

the 10700 has a tdp of 65W

#

lol my 10700K gets up to 186W

desert gulch
#

Jake is Intel ever gonna make their own threadripper cpu?

#

Or anything with alot of cores

ripe wedge
#

that would be called the 10980XE

little osprey
#

but why would i need 600 watts if the rtx 3060 would have around 200 td and my i7 10700 has 65 watts tdp

ripe wedge
#

well the gpu will consume a lot of it

desert gulch
#

All other components need power

#

Ram

#

Mobo

ripe wedge
#

it also is good to have headroom

desert gulch
#

Storage

little osprey
#

ram consumes 100 watts?

desert gulch
#

No

#

Fans

#

Rgb

little osprey
#

i dont have rgb

desert gulch
#

Cpu cooler

ripe wedge
#

you dont want to be redlining a psu 24/7

desert gulch
#

Yeah

ripe wedge
#

you want headroom

#

keeps the psu cooler too

#

doesnt have to work as hard

lofty rampart
#

is the ryzen 5900x overkill

ripe wedge
#

theoretically yes

#

I think that a 5800X for most cases will be enough

#

unless you do a lot of cpu intensive things

#

that also require more cores

#

but for gaming I think the 5900X is a bit overkill

little osprey
#

did i spend too much money on my cpu if i just use it for gta v? @ripe wedge

#

i paid 320 dollars for it

#

lol

#

i had a pentium g4600 before

ripe wedge
#

oof $60 more and you could have bought a 10700K

little osprey
#

at that time the 10700k was like 410$

ripe wedge
#

ah

little osprey
#

or more i think i cant remember i bought it when 10th gen just released

ripe wedge
#

what kinda cooler do you have for it

desert gulch
#

Cooler master

#

Air cooler

little osprey
#

cooler master hyper 212

#

evo

ripe wedge
#

ah

#

should be enough as you arnt ocing it lol cuz u cant

desert gulch
#

Lol

ripe wedge
#

but I think its fine but you didnt balance your budget well thats all

desert gulch
#

writes k in pen on the top of cpu

ripe wedge
desert gulch
#

Lol

#

All ryzen cpu are overclockable

ripe wedge
#

@desert gulch btw I ocd my 10700k to 5.1ghz

desert gulch
#

Oo

little osprey
#

i just got intel cause of its branding i never had a amd cpu

desert gulch
#

All core?

ripe wedge
#

all core

desert gulch
#

Nice

#

What temps?

ripe wedge
#

max of 86C KEKW

desert gulch
#

Wow

#

Is that bad?

#

Its not cool by any means

ripe wedge
#

I mean its hot but not bad enough to kill it

#

above 100C is bad

desert gulch
#

Above 100c it'll shut off right?

ripe wedge
#

but while I was gaming at 5.1ghz it was maybe like 70C ish average

desert gulch
#

Nice

#

My 3600 stock speeds hits 70

ripe wedge
#

so its do able but I clocked down to 4.9 cuz way cooler and less power draw

desert gulch
#

But thats cuz my fan curve is not aggressivr

#

I'm using stock cooler

#

Thats my build

#

With it off

#

It looks so good on tho

#

I didnt mean to match up colors on my components but it just worked

ripe wedge
#

mine goes brrrr

desert gulch
#

Yeee

#

What aio?

ripe wedge
#

Z73

desert gulch
#

Ooo nice

#

Idc really about upgrading cooler since im not gonna oc prolly

sacred knot
#

is this build good?

#

this is the first time i build and i wanna make sure all is good before ordering anything

desert gulch
#

Uhhh

#

You wouldbt need a 650 for a 1660

#

Could prolly get better ssd

ripe wedge
#

@sacred knot id recommend waiting on the ryzen 5 5600x

#

also dont pay full price for windows 10

desert gulch
#

Yeah

sacred knot
#

on budget btw

desert gulch
#

What is the use case?

#

Just gaming?

sacred knot
#

gaming and programming most probably

ripe wedge
#

also the 3600 you posted is over priced

desert gulch
#

You wint need 32g of ram most likely

#

Jake

#

Its in cad

ripe wedge
#

I converted it to usd

desert gulch
#

O

ripe wedge
#

it was like $197

desert gulch
#

Wow

#

Yeah

sacred knot
#

how do i make sure i get good prices

ripe wedge
#

if you want the 3600 id wait until after the launch of ryzen 5000 when it will go on sale

sacred knot
#

idk how much stuff usually costs

ripe wedge
#

nov 5th is when the new ryzen processors come out

sacred knot
#

i was gonna wait for black friday but idk how much itll go down

ripe wedge
#

also that m.2 is questionable

sacred knot
#

if you want the 3600 id wait until after the launch of ryzen 5000 when it will go on sale
@ripe wedge when is that?

ripe wedge
#

nov 5th

#

hold on ill fix ur list up

sacred knot
#

thanks

ripe wedge
#

that ssd is fine

#

it has 1gb of dram

sacred knot
#

whats dram?

desert gulch
#

Ram built into ssd basically

next kestrel
#

cache for an ssd

desert gulch
#

Like a cache

#

Makes it better

#

And faster

sacred knot
#

oh okok

little osprey
#

amd skipped4000 series?

desert gulch
#

Yes

next kestrel
#

they pulled a windows

desert gulch
#

Cause they used 4000 in laptops

#

So they went to 5000

next kestrel
#

and just decided to skip a number lmao

ripe wedge
#

how much is your budget? @sacred knot

desert gulch
#

To make it less confusing

sacred knot
#

around 1.5k give or take 200$

ripe wedge
#

k

sacred knot
#

i have a cheap laptop rn so most games i cant run

#

but i already have a monitor, keyboard and mouse

next kestrel
#

except the GPU most parts look ok

sacred knot
#

is this one not good?

#

or too expensive for its performance?

next kestrel
#

a bit underpowered for the other components

sacred knot
#

how much is your budget? @sacred knot
@ripe wedge btw dont forget im canadian, so the currency change will add some $$ and i have to think about taxes 😭

next kestrel
#

most games prefer GPU power over cpu

ripe wedge
#

@sacred knot yep I have it in canadian money

sacred knot
#

thanks so much

#

so a cheaper CPU and a more expensive GPU would be more worth it, kindof?

ripe wedge
#

hows this look

#

also remember the case isnt showing the price

#

not sure how much that would be

#

also not sure if the 3070 will be $499 cad

sacred knot
#

is 16 gb of ram enough for most games?

ripe wedge
#

yeah

#

I have 32gb but I multitask a ton

sacred knot
#

how much multi tasking are we talking about?

ripe wedge
#

about 15 chrome tabs while gaming while having about 6 other apps open

#

but so far I havent seen my ram go above 16gb yet

#

I have gotten it to 16gb tho

next kestrel
#

fun fact: 3070 is not 499$ in CAD lmao

ripe wedge
#

ah ok then let me rework it again

sacred knot
#

for the motherboard, is there one similar but with wifi?

ripe wedge
#

yeah found one

next kestrel
ripe wedge
#

but you can always throw in a wifi card

next kestrel
#

made space for a HDD and a wifi mobo

sacred knot
next kestrel
#

wifi cards around 30$, might as well get built in if possible

#

no, it means front panel will have 1 USB 2.0

#

and 1 usb 3.2

#

u can check the mobo pics lol

ripe wedge
#

those are headers

#

@next kestrel ew

#

that 2060 is not great

#

single fan a no no

next kestrel
#

no card is available

#

in that price range

#

i'd say pay 40$ less

#

and get better fans

ripe wedge
#

or pay $30 more and get 2 fans on gpu

next kestrel
#

true

ripe wedge
#

also honestly id recommend just getting 16gb of 3600mhz ram

#

instead of 32gb of 3200mhz

#

ryzen prefers higher clocked ram

sacred knot
#

do prices drop alot on black friday?

ripe wedge
#

probably

next kestrel
ripe wedge
#

they most likely will have some sales

next kestrel
#

1300$ i guess

ripe wedge
#

oh that case is decent comes with 2 fans

#

cheap too

#

wait

#

you put the wrong mobo @next kestrel

foggy hazel
#

@sacred knot dont expect it. and you might be pleasantly surprised.

sacred knot
#

ill try not to

next kestrel
#

i put this one because ATX lol

sacred knot
#

but this laptop is making me dread playing anything 😂

next kestrel
#

same price

ripe wedge
#

yeah then just slap on a pcie wifi card

sacred knot
#

for some reason even minecraft gets laggy 😭

next kestrel
#

the mobo i listed has wifi

#

:PP

ripe wedge
#

oh hence the ac part

#

didnt realize

#

welp imma go I have stuff to do

sacred knot
#

whats the difference between bronze and gold psu?

little osprey
#

i think its efficiency

#

gold is more efficient

#

so maybe ur energy bill will be a couple cents lower?

sacred knot
#

oh okok

foggy hazel
#

basically nothing to worry about

#

worry about the actual model instead

#

not the brand.

#

but the model.

sacred knot
next kestrel
#

both should be fine

foggy hazel
#

the bottom one is a generally fine

#

the top one is only something you need to worry about if you plan on pulling silly amounts of power from your CPU socket

sacred knot
#

how do i know if its gonna be the case?

cloud oasis
#

?

#

its clearance for ram

#

like if the coolers too big it’ll block the ram slots

foggy hazel
#

we will tell you when you have a list @sacred knot

#

for now, dont worry about it

next kestrel
#

its the amd stock cooler with 2 sticks of LP ram on an ATX board

#

i dont think there is a way to get a problem with ram clearance lol

shell willow
next kestrel
#

honestly u could spend a bit more on the case

#

but if u like the looks go ahead

pastel briar
#

Hey Naed....long time no chat 😄

next kestrel
#

also better psu:)

shell willow
#

awesome thankyou im trying to spend max 1.5k au = like 1k us and im really bad with pc stuff

#

whats the chances of getting a 30 series currently lol

desert gulch
#

Not high

#

Unless you got 2000 bucks for a bot on eBay or you get lucky

#

It requires much patience

#

And get a better ssd

#

Like the mp34

#

Its like 2 bucks more

pastel briar
#

honestly I would wait for a while for the 30 series, AMD also should be droping NAVI/Big Navi soon also so that is another option, im waiting to see what AMD brings to the table before I pull the trigger on any new GPU

desert gulch
#

True

#

Definetly wait for Zen 3

pastel briar
#

oh yea and Zen 3 should also be droping soon as well

shell willow
#

Awesome thankyou

pastel briar
#

np glad we can help

stoic island
#

@desert gulch the current sn750 sale is making it quite appealing

stoic island
#

tis has 3 fans

small osprey
#

Is the team mp34 cheapest good m.2 ssd

#

Whats the best ssd for $50

#

@stoic island

little osprey
#

Is this good or no

stoic island
#

@small osprey vulcan 500gb can be 50$

wind tiger
#

@little osprey bro don’t get the kraken aio it’s not good it’s only good for the screen and a other thing get 32gbs of ram if you want it would be better

little osprey
#

@little osprey bro don’t get the kraken aio it’s not good it’s only good for the screen and a other thing get 32gbs of ram if you want it would be better
@wind tiger what aio is good for the 3700x then

languid nimbus
#

Arctic freezer ii

stoic island
#

@little osprey at the same price as focus gm 850w, you can get revolution d.f. 850w that has multi rail

little osprey
#

Okay

#

Anything else wrong with my list besides the cooler

stoic island
#

It's more about "overpriced, spending too much on x" than anything really wrong with it.

#

like I doubt you can take use of the Tomahawk's features over something like a B550m pro4

ocean dawn
stoic island
ocean dawn
#

Ok

#

I will

stoic island
#

And by the way, 9900k was 300$ at microcenter for pickup

#

not sure if it still is

ocean dawn
#

I'm in canada

stoic island
ocean dawn
#

ok

#

I'll make the list

#

and repost

stoic island
#

I don't even know if microcenter has canadian locations lel

#

lemme see

ocean dawn
#

Don't think so

stoic island
#

yea don't think so

ocean dawn
#

I'll compile it into pc part picker

#

then come back

stoic island
#

mhm

ocean dawn
stoic island
#

you can put the graphics card in the list..?

ocean dawn
#

Not 2

#

I have 2

stoic island
#

ohhh

ocean dawn
#

For the kvm

stoic island
#

lmao

#

Why do you need Intel?

ocean dawn
#

wdym?

#

The processor?

stoic island
#

9900k

#

what's it for?

ocean dawn
#

Just for the proccessing power

#

Trying to future proof it

stoic island
#

@ocean dawn when building

ocean dawn
#

@ocean dawn when building
@stoic island the pc?

stoic island
#

yes

#

what budget

ocean dawn
#

yea?

#

A little

#

Over 2000$

#

going to buy during black friday

stoic island
#

Then you better come back again a week before black friday, because no matter what list I make today, it will very likely need to be changed then

#

I'll make changes tho

ocean dawn
#

Ok

#

Thank You

stoic island
#

To start off, so what exactly are you gonna do with KVM?

ocean dawn
#

Mac OS

stoic island
#

like native Manjaro and then windows VM?

#

oh

ocean dawn
#

And Windows

stoic island
#

fun

ocean dawn
#

Yea

stoic island
#

sad

#

that might force you into having an intel chip, I gotta check at some point

#

I'll be back

ocean dawn
#

ok

oblique cloak
#

Thoughts on this build?

#

Cooler: ASUS ROG RYNJIN 360 RAM: G.SKILL 2 * 16G Trident C18 SSD: Samsung 970EVO PLUS IT MD: ASUS ROG Z490-A GAMING GPU: ASUS RTX3080 O10G GAMINGTUF PSU: ASUS ROG STRIX 750W Case: COUGAR CONQUER 2 Fans: DEEPCOOL 120 ARGB*6 Cables: LIANLI Gen 2

stoic island
#

@ocean dawn looks like you can use AMD CPUs fine with macos

ocean dawn
#

ok

#

i'll check it out

#

thx

stoic island
#

That gives us more options

ocean dawn
#

yea

stoic island
#

I'm on mobile rn, but I'm guessing 3700x+B550 board with stock cooler would be good fit to start off

ocean dawn
#

I want water cooling

stoic island
#

Why?

ocean dawn
#

It's quiter

#

is it not?

stoic island
#

False

ocean dawn
#

oh

stoic island
#

You know that watercoolers have fans AND pump for noise right?

#

And the same fans can be on air coolers?

#

The only noise that comes from air coolers is fan noise. Turn down fan and it's gonna be quiet.

ocean dawn
#

ok

#

got it

stoic island
#

Well good air coolers at least

#

If you're gonna grab like a zalman flower, I can't help ya xD

ocean dawn
#

whats a zalman flower?

#

srry new to pc building

stoic island
#

Really old cooler, cool looking tho

ocean dawn
#

ohhh

stoic island
ocean dawn
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ok

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Won't get one of those

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lol

stoic island
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Noctua is amazing, but U12s and U14s are a bit overpriced

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@ocean dawn I'm on mobile, so if you can check noise testing for Mugen 5 rev b, see how that'd work

ocean dawn
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ok

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let me see

vernal agate
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Get an NH-D14 or NH-D15

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It's better then my Corsair H100i pro with my I7-7700K in some cases

stoic island
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Eh, I'm starting off looking at mid range Noctua coolers, it's a 3700x anyways.

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@vernal agate I have a D15, I love it :D

vernal agate
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Yeah I used to run a D14 on my 7700K@4.8GHz but I changed to a H100i thinking the performance would be better but it actually was kinda worst by a couple degrees sometimes. I took the D14 and I put it on my home server (I7-4930K@4.3GHz)

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And yeah, I can't wait to get the D15, I'm upgrading my 7700K to possibly an 11th gen I9 next year, if it comes out next year lool

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So now I'm not sure if I want to make a custom loop or get the D15 for it tho

wind tiger
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bro I seen people buy the ryzen 7 3800x it’s like the same as the 3700x but overclocked

mystic needle
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what does overclocked do? 😮

balmy patio
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higher clock speeds

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wait no that explanation was bad

mystic needle
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LOL

balmy patio
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overclocking is basically when you tune your cpu, gpu, ram, idk what else can be overclocked to get higher clock speeds than what comes out of the factory

mystic needle
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oooohhhhhh

balmy patio
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yeah but i dont know much about how to do it or what to keep in mind while doing it

cursive wharf
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components work in a way such that it's like running around a track, each time you pass the finish line you can start a new instruction (so like doing some math or smth). OCing is basically saying "run around the track faster"

mystic needle
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i see i see

balmy patio
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was your question answered or are you still confused about it?

mystic needle
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no that basically answers my question hehe

idle compass
stoic island
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Smh

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I can do better

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:p

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Ventus thin heatsink

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B450 sad

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Rgb ram expensive

idle compass
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Ok then

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What parts are good for 1k budget and what else is wrong with the ones in the vid

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I just wanna know so I can know how to tell apart which ones are bad

stoic island
idle compass
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Oh ok np

balmy patio
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What parts are good for 1k budget and what else is wrong with the ones in the vid
@idle compass mr1111 once made me a list for a 1k budget, lemme pull it up

idle compass
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@idle compass mr1111 once made me a list for a 1k budget, lemme pull it up
Alr

balmy patio
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@idle compass

idle compass
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Are there any good build tutorials you can recommend to me?

stoic island
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That isn't greatly optimised for perf, but it has nice corners

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But I don't even know if I can fit a 2060s in there, prob not with today pricing

foggy hazel
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@idle compass dont rush, read the manual and most importantly... dont rush

balmy patio
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and @idle compass there might be some first person pov's on tutorials, i remember seeing one from linus tech tips i think

stoic island
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I prob couldn't fit a 2060s in there and just added to having good supporting parts

viral ore
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3700x have SMT