building-and-recc-chat

[cloud oasis]

just save up instead

[little osprey]

yeah im saving up for an apple watch

and 121 dollars is part of those savings

[cloud oasis]

spending over 200$ on a watch

[little osprey]

its 279

[cloud oasis]

not worth at all

[stoic island]

~520$ gets you a pretty decent gaming pc

If I still have the list around

it doesn't have to be 1000$

[upbeat lodge]

@little osprey I added you

[violet harness]

Honestly Apple watches are overrated

[upbeat lodge]

Yeah.......

[cloud oasis]

no apple watches are bad

Not overrated

[upbeat lodge]

Not that bad

[cloud oasis]

no point of an “apple” watch

[desert gulch]

you can build an optiplex with 1660 super for like 500 pretty easy

[little osprey]

my dream build would probs be geforce 3080, with an amd ryzen 9 3900x, seagate barracuda compute. (ik theres other stuff, im just talking main specs.)

id never be able to afford that cause the 3080 is over 1k alone LMAOOO

[upbeat lodge]

im younger so i dont have as much knowledge
@little osprey I’m young too and I’m pretty good with tec stuff

[desert gulch]

3080 is 700

[midnight ledge]

no lol

[desert gulch]

when it becomes more available

the FE edition is

[midnight ledge]

gl getting a 699 founders card at best buy LOL

[desert gulch]

just gotta wait

[vital warren]

well my brother did lmao

my brother just came home with an fe 3080

[desert gulch]

it may take awhile but patience would pay off

[little osprey]

i hope i can build a pc in the future

welp i gtg do school work

byee

[midnight ledge]

hopefully amd will be able to put something out lower or something to compete with it for less ; like the 5700XT but god damn they better not botch the drivers again LOL

[desert gulch]

5700xt drivers are fine now...

just had a rocky start

[violet harness]

id never be able to afford that cause the 3080 is over 1k alone LMAOOO
@little osprey uhhh some advice, don’t go for an hdd as your main storage, they are slow. Go for an ssd

[desert gulch]

nah

HDD gang

lol

but yeah a 120g ssd is dirt cheap really

[pearl blade]

yea just do ssd plus a 1tb hdd if money is that tight

[desert gulch]

yup

[lavish acorn]

Would this be a good build?https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7dHKZZ

[desert gulch]

for gaming?

[lavish acorn]

I have the had and ssd

But yes

[desert gulch]

your gpu is much underpowered for the cpu

in terms of balance

and you dont need that cooler if you do stock speeds

yeah you would have major bottleneck by gpu

[violet harness]

God it’s so annoying when people get a flagship cpu but then get a budget gpu

Like dude it’s the gpu that matters more

[desert gulch]

yup

in a rendering or editing station i could kinda understand

but for gaming thats cray cray

[lavish acorn]

I would be streaming and video editing plus gaming

[desert gulch]

but tha gpu would not perf well in games

what games?

[lavish acorn]

I would be playing COD and all the new upcoming games

[desert gulch]

yeah no way a 5500 xt would run high settings well

what resolution?

[lavish acorn]

1080

[violet harness]

Lmao

[desert gulch]

i would go with a 3700x, most definelty a cheaper cooler if i wanted to get a afetrmarket one, some nvidia gpu if i wanteed to stream

if you can fit that into budget

nvidia gpus are best for streaming

since they have video encoders built in

[lavish acorn]

I was going with an AMD build

[desert gulch]

ik

but for streaming youll be better off going nvidia

[inner raptor]

If I’m getting a case without fans will I need to purchase fans separately or will I be fine without purchasing seperate fans

[sturdy leaf]

Get fans

[olive kraken]

You need fans

[desert gulch]

you need at least 2 fans

[olive kraken]

Depending on the cost of fans might be better to get slightly more expensive case

[lavish acorn]

Ok what gpu is recommended then instead

[inner raptor]

Where do I put them

The back and?

[olive kraken]

1 in the front as intake and one on the back as exhaust

[desert gulch]

yup

at least

[inner raptor]

Ok

[desert gulch]

@lavish acorn get nvidia

if you can wait for 3070 id wait

if you can slightly increase budget

[lavish acorn]

Oh yeah and my im not the expert in this im just starting to upgrade and had zero help with

[desert gulch]

you wont regret going nvidia

for steaming

[olive kraken]

But I'd recommend 2 on the front if you don't feel like tweaking fan curves. Which will equal positive airflow = happy cpu and gpu

For streaming with Nvidia. And 1080p

A 2060 will do just fine

[sturdy leaf]

Should I get a 1660? I’m thinking about it because I don’t have enough money for 3070

[olive kraken]

But wait for prices to go down a bit I'd say

I'd say wait if you can. When the market settles around Q1 2021 the 20 series will go down

And then you'll get the Cuda cores that r gucci for streaming and other things

[sturdy leaf]

Do u think that they will go down for Black Friday because I have everything built except a gpu and psu

[desert gulch]

what cpu?

@sturdy leaf

[sturdy leaf]

I have a r5 3600x

[desert gulch]

you gonna stream?

[inner raptor]

Also isn’t there supposed to be a 3060 coming out

[sturdy leaf]

Yes

I’m gonna stream

[desert gulch]

ok

and nith it has not been confirmed

so idk

nobody except nvidia knows

[inner raptor]

Also I started building my pc

I put together everything on the mobo

But I don’t have my case

Cuz I have to return it

Should I leave it or should I wrap it up or sum?

[sturdy leaf]

How long is it gonna be until u get a case?

[inner raptor]

Couple days

I’m getting through Amazon

So like 3 or so

[sturdy leaf]

Then I guess just put it somewhere

Since you already built everything

[slow nimbus]

Hi guys this is my first time building a pc, if I send you a list of my components would you tell me if there's anything I could do better?

[vital warren]

of course

we're all friendly and helpful here

[queen notch]

customer service sent me here and now i think it was a tactic to evade :/

i feel violated lol

[balmy patio]

eh

this is better than customer service ngl

[slow nimbus]

Dude lmao, sounds like they were tryna get you off their back

I work on customer service and I've seen my colleagues do stuff like that

But sometimes a community is better

[vital warren]

a lot of techies are here so here is probably better

[queen notch]

i asked once, they said go here...

meh

anyone happen to know where i can get a Gigabyte Gc-usb 3.2 Gen2x2 USB Type-C 20Gb/s card?

lol

anyone install a 3.2 2x2 card?

just saw the right panel... PEOPLE TO BUG!

ty all

[slow nimbus]

Ok here we go

[still roost]

Hekaree#4050 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

Hekaree#4050 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

Hekaree#4050 has been banned for 10 minutes

Reason: Too many infractions

[unban]

Banned until · Oct 18, 2020, 10:23 PM

[balmy patio]

nice one

[night storm]

Well for starters you could stop spamming and getting banned.

[ocean pumice]

This is the current build I've got planned right now, planning on plugging in a 3070 or 3080 when I can get my hands on one. Any thoughts or anything you guys would change?

[cloud oasis]

Take out the windows

U can get for like 10$ on ebay

Also psu cost too much

Get enermax revolution df 850w

Also you wanna get a micro atx case

Also change cpu cooler to either dh-15

Or arctic liquid freezer 360mm

[inland parrot]

hey what does the Subjective Tier on google docs for the amd motherboard comparison mean, can someone explain @stoic islandhttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit#gid=2112472504

[ocean pumice]

Why the change in case? for just more cooling with the mesh?

@cloud oasis

[cloud oasis]

@ocean pumice u have micro atx mobo

And atx case

[balmy patio]

dont atx cases also support matx mobo's?

[cloud oasis]

idk

[balmy patio]

it should

[cloud oasis]

if ur gonna get matx might aswell get a matx case aswell so its smol and compact

[inland parrot]

hey how many gpus can you fit on one motherboard and is having more gpus good or bad

[balmy patio]

it depends on how many slots there are and if your mobo supports it

[vital warren]

sli poop

[balmy patio]

sli and crossfire (i think thats what amd calls it)

[vital warren]

isn't nvidia dropping sli support

[balmy patio]

yeah but doesnt the 3090 support sli

i think i saw an ltt vid on it

[stoic island]

@inland parrot subjective tier..?

The tier is just pricing

Ignore it

[slow nimbus]

Ok here we go
@slow nimbus

Dude lmao I was just trying to send a couple links and it straight up banned me

[sour kayak]

I need some serious help, whenever I boot my pc it does this:

Not good

This just stated suddenly...

[cloud oasis]

Virus :gachiPls:

What are u booting off of

Make sure to boot off where windows is installed

Also did this happen recently or was it fine before

@sour kayak

[sour kayak]

It was fine before, just started all of a sudden

Im booting off of my windows drive

[cloud oasis]

Go into bios manually and try it

Or reset windows

[sour kayak]

It eventually stops doing that and loads to the desktop after a few minutes.

[cloud oasis]

oh

when it loads into desktop delete nvidia voice or whatever

[sour kayak]

I’m not sure if that’s what’s causing the issue but I’ll try that

I’ve had that installed for a while and it’s just now causing issues

[cloud oasis]

Delete it

In programs and files

[sour kayak]

I just did that

Didn’t help

[cloud oasis]

wat

[sour kayak]

Yeah idfk

[cloud oasis]

U mind going in a vc and screensharing

[sour kayak]

I can’t get to discord while it’s doing that

I’m on my phone

I can send another video

[cloud oasis]

Go on ur phone and video share

ok send videos then

[sour kayak]

Same thing just without the RTX voice thing

[slow nimbus]

Hmmm

Perhaps you can restore windows to a previous point

Maybe yesterday when it wasnt doing thaf

That*

[cloud oasis]

or just install malwarebytes

and do a full system scan

Check if u have windows updates aswell

[sour kayak]

I’m running system verification from command prompt to see if it’s a windows file or something. I’ll instal malwarebtes as well

[slow valve]

@stoic island https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6n8kTJ this is the list, I'm going the performance over style and the CPU isn't there since I'm trying to get a 5000 series.

[slow nimbus]

Hey btw, this is what I plan to be my first build, what do you think about it?

[sour kayak]

I think this might be the issue

[slow nimbus]

This plus an Nvidia rtx 3070

[cloud oasis]

Put in pcpp list plz

[stoic island]

@slow valve uhhh

what's with the SSD choices?

[slow nimbus]

Put in pcpp list plz
@cloud oasis

Oh ok

[slow valve]

what's with the SSD choices?
@stoic island I've been asking around and went with the one's that the people recommended

[cloud oasis]

@sour kayak try restarting and see if its fixed

[stoic island]

I mean

at least they have dram

but why not some speedy drives?

[slow valve]

I didn't know if they were speedy or not, that's why I needed help @stoic island

[sour kayak]

yeah, it was corrupt files. I restarted just fine.

that was the weirdest thing

[stoic island]

lemme make changes first

and gib list again

@slow valve do you need 2tb of SSD storage?

(Just checking for how much you need)

[slow valve]

I'm mostly future proofing my storage

[sour kayak]

I restarted again and it’s back to flashing.... so it’s probably malware

[cloud oasis]

Future proofing storage

[slow valve]

I can change one to a Hybrid or HDD

[cloud oasis]

Ryan

[slow valve]

@stoic island

[cloud oasis]

https://youtu.be/yeweIoo6xdE @sour kayak watch

[stoic island]

Alright, quik changes :
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9wDyfP

[cloud oasis]

Should work

[slow nimbus]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3svFdD

Here it is

What do you think?

Do I need anything else? Is there anything I should change

[stoic island]

@slow valve how you feel about changes, need me to explain?

[slow valve]

Give me a second To look at them

I’m on the road and my WiFi is bad so it’s hard to check them right now

[stoic island]

Ask any questions you'll have, and @ me whenever you can look em over :)

[slow valve]

The old RAM I have will be the RAM I put in initially which was on the first list. The reason is because I was trying to say money. Next what cooling should I have in the system? Like for the CPU and fans for the case? Last thing is if the 5000 series is released with the numbers they presented which should I get? @stoic island

Sorry for a lot of questions.

[stoic island]

@slow valve Starting from the top, 3600cl16 performs better 3200cl16, that's why I slapped the new ram in. CPU Cooling wise, I'd wait and see benchmarks and temps from the new CPUs, I'm guessing something like a Gammaxx 400 will still work just fine for 25$. Case wise, depending on overall budget, I think I'd change your case to something else like a Corsair 275r airflow, 4000d airflow, or like a Coolermaster TD500 mesh.

[slow valve]

Okay thank you for that, this is a lot of good information. 👍

What are some good fans to put in the case? @stoic island

[stoic island]

Well, if you choose something like 275r airflow or td500 mesh, they already come with 3 fans installed

good nuff, no need for extra fans.

But anyways, if you really wanted to add extra good fans to stuff, Arctic P12, good fans with amazing value.

[slow valve]

Oh okay

[stoic island]

and if you ever have extra room in your budget without anything important to spend em in, Noctua NF-A12x25, arguably one of the, if not the best 120mm fan overall.

:D

[cloud oasis]

nice spelling bro

[stoic island]

thanks

[cloud oasis]

and if you ever have extra room in your budget without anything important to spend em in, Noctua NF-A12x25, (arguably one of the,) if not the best 120mm fan overall.

[stoic island]

okay

[lyric thistle]

okay

and if you eevr hvae erxta room in yuor bguedt woihtut atnynhig iraptmont to senpd em in, Nutoca NF-A12x25, (algabury one of the,) if not the best 120mm fan orleval.

[stoic island]

@lyric thistle did I misspell anything there? I don't see anything wrong with what I typed

[lyric thistle]

That took me days

[inland parrot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/

[stoic island]

missing a bit of punctuation but

@inland parrot wrong link :)

[lyric thistle]

Idk not important anyways :)

[inland parrot]

its the right link

[stoic island]

look at the link lel

pcpartpicker.com/list/

that's the list you are currently editing

not a list you can share

[inland parrot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8HT7ht

[stoic island]

thank you

[inland parrot]

WE HAVE TO AGREEE

[stoic island]

again, why no wifi board and save the money

[inland parrot]

I KNOW

[stoic island]

460$ 2070 is way overpriced

SATA M.2 drive for 2$ less than MP34 is an oof

[inland parrot]

THE OTHER OPTION IS GETTING rtx 20 series

[little osprey]

mr1111

man

give me

800$

build

irl

jk

send a 800$ park picker list

[stoic island]

and I think you forgot to remove one of the ram

didn't I give you one already smh

[little osprey]

yea

but

i los tit

disauhoduisahdba

[stoic island]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KhmHNP

[little osprey]

lost it****

[stoic island]

another one

[little osprey]

for me?

[inland parrot]

yeah I will remove one of the ram

[little osprey]

ok

[still roost]

aeqtra#6448 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

sike

BURH

I SAID

HO****MO

BUT I SAID

[stoic island]

2070 non-super should be around 400$

[little osprey]

NO

[inland parrot]

bruh

[little osprey]

I SAID ILY NO HO****MO

WTF

AND I WAS GONNA SAY

SIKE

[stoic island]

bad words

[little osprey]

FULL

HO*****MO

CUZ I HAVE SOCKS

WTF IS DIS

IM OUT

[stoic island]

bai

have fun

[lyric thistle]

Nice

You have socks?

[inland parrot]

@stoic island lol wrong gpu i mean the radeon 5600 XT

[stoic island]

breh

[inland parrot]

i am either getting the 5600xt (rtx 2060) or the 2070

i need to save money

[little osprey]

2060?

2070?

u r rich

im out

[stoic island]

breh

the 800$ list I sent you had a 2060

[inland parrot]

i will upgarde when I have enough money

[stoic island]

btw, 2060 is basically a 5600xt but with better features

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/GeForce-RTX-2060-vs-Radeon-RX-5600-XT/4037vs4186

score is about the same

perf around the same

but you get RTX, NVENC, and all the Nvidia kewl stuff

[vapid moth]

Can anybody help me make a list for around 850? Don't know many parts for a list of that budget really.

[stoic island]

sure

lemme just take the list I sent before and make it 850$ and not 800$

[vapid moth]

Okay, thanks!

[stoic island]

eh, can't fit 3600, I'll just get it better overall stuff

[vapid moth]

Well, my total budget is 1000.

I was thinking 850 for the pc, maybe 150 for the monitor.

[stoic island]

eh, only swapped ram, other stuff doesn't fit, this'll do.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rmMxYg

I'll grab you a monitor too

[vapid moth]

Thanks.

[stoic island]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824737012

there

the list and the monitor should do you well.

[vapid moth]

Tysm.

[stoic island]

:)

[cloud oasis]

https://youtu.be/2tYim2XRT-M

@vapid moth

[inland parrot]

why asrock b550 over Gigabyte B550 @stoic island

[stoic island]

@inland parrot I assume you mean ds3h vs pro4?

[inland parrot]

yeah

[stoic island]

pro4 has better sound chip, better vrm, better connectivity, more fan headers, debug LEDs.

[vapid moth]

Wouldn't that be bottlenecked though? @cloud oasis

[prisma stag]

my rear fan that is not matching

what software to control rgb

i havw it on jrainbow slot on motherboard

[stoic island]

@vapid moth bottleneck is a sad term :)

Everything would bottleneck everything

anyways, 3600 would probably limit the 3070 a bit, but wouldn't stop the 3070 from being a good GPU :P

[prisma stag]

anyone know?

[stoic island]

screw rgb :P

[prisma stag]

i need help lol

[cloud oasis]

Yea @vapid moth and its am4 u can always upgrade later on

Maybe get zen 3

[inland parrot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w8DyfP

@stoic island what about this

[stoic island]

swap that SSD for mp34

it's 2$ more

for NVMe instead of SATA

[inland parrot]

can you change it and link it

i want 1tb ssd and 2 tb hdd

[cloud oasis]

And if u get nvme no pesky wires

[stoic island]

stuff be changed
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zWgxYg

[inland parrot]

much better

[stoic island]

mmm

[cloud oasis]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mnPD8J

My list better

:(

[stoic island]

not with that ram >:D

[inland parrot]

dont need wifi already bought wifi card

[stoic island]

thought they already bought like psu wifi adapter and case

[inland parrot]

yeah i did

its too late now

[stoic island]

mhm

[inland parrot]

just need the rest of the stuff

gpu, cpu, ram, and storage and I will be ready to build it

[cloud oasis]

0.99 cent cheaper ez

oh

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/x7KLDc

[stoic island]

no

they have wifi card already

[cloud oasis]

Then dont get the mobo i picked

[stoic island]

...

I'll leave ya to it

[inland parrot]

850 watts

750 watts is what I need

[stoic island]

wait do you not have the PSU already?

[inland parrot]

i have to wait for it to be in stock but already ordered it

[stoic island]

uhh

Revolution D.F. 850w is better quality and higher wattage at the same price eh

whatever

[inland parrot]

its the Corsair RM (2019) RMx that I got

its 750watts

[stoic island]

rmx is fine then

wait

@inland parrot IS IT RM OR RMX

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE

xd

[inland parrot]

I know

[stoic island]

ick

RM 2019 is RM

RMx is RMx

[inland parrot]

i got rmx becasue when you go on amazon its lets you choose

[stoic island]

you got rmx 2018?

[little leaf]

@stoic island rm and rmx are pretty similar arent they

[stoic island]

better caps on rmx

[little leaf]

Ik

[stoic island]

and some other changes

[little leaf]

Their still pretty decent

[stoic island]

there's a difference

[desert gulch]

Yes

[stoic island]

that's what I'm trying to get at :P

[desert gulch]

The difference is the "x" xD

[inland parrot]

yeah that is the one that I got 2018 rmx

but hey its supports my build

[little leaf]

I mean

Either one is good enough for a 3070

[desert gulch]

Ig

My wish.com one is prolly better smh

[inland parrot]

LOL

[stoic island]

good

lol

[inland parrot]

cheap china products

[stoic island]

you know

[inland parrot]

but alie express is better tho

[little leaf]

When you realize almost everything you own is from china

[stoic island]

RMx is technically a cheap Chinese product

[inland parrot]

free shpping

[stoic island]

CWT makes some pretty damn nice PSUs

[gritty zenith]

[little leaf]

Kinda racist

[gritty zenith]

huh what happened

[inland parrot]

@stoic island what about a b550m aorus pro good microatx motherboard

[stoic island]

more expensive

[inland parrot]

and what is wrong with Mx500 ssd

[gritty zenith]

its not an evo plus?

[stoic island]

sata

[inland parrot]

oh

[stoic island]

NVMe do be quick asf

and just for 2$ more that's an easy pick

[inland parrot]

is there any other advances in getting a NVMe

[cloud oasis]

dont have to deal with wires

[gritty zenith]

you're not wasting money

[stoic island]

SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

[cloud oasis]

nvme is just better overall

Compact, no wire problems

[gritty zenith]

you could probably find a usb flash drive that is faster than a sata ssd

[cloud oasis]

list goes on

No

[gritty zenith]

let a man exaggerate

[cloud oasis]

ok smile

[gritty zenith]

😬

[inland parrot]

is Crucial P1 fine

[cloud oasis]

No

man listen to us

jk u can get it if u really want

But mp34 is really good for its price

[inland parrot]

what are good models that are NVMe

[cloud oasis]

Mp34

And sn750

[inland parrot]

can I get 1 tb NVMe and 2 hdd

or does it not work like that

[cloud oasis]

U can

[inland parrot]

okay

so is the hdd that I choose okay

[stoic island]

YES

GO WITH LIST I SEND :(

[languid nimbus]

too hard

gotta ask 10 more times

[verbal falcon]

tru

[inland parrot]

@stoic island can you resend the list again sorry for asking again

or is it this one without your motherboard https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zWgxYg

[stoic island]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zWgxYg

that is the one

it is correct list

[inland parrot]

okay

i am geeting the ripsaw

16 gb

[stoic island]

y tho

crucial better die

[cloud oasis]

How much oc’ing can i do with a arctic liquid freezer 360

[stoic island]

depends on chip

[cloud oasis]

10850k

Also what are ram timings

[stoic island]

they're latency

I mean OCing varies by an extreme amount from chip to chip

[prisma stag]

my base clock is 3.6

but when i turn on msi game boost in instantly get 4.1

so i just roll with that haha

[stoic island]

as in @cloud oasis one 10850k could theoretically do 5.6ghz at 1.3v, and another only able to do 5ghz at 1.3v, it's all on the exact chip you get

[cloud oasis]

wym chip

like mobo?

[stoic island]

no

@cloud oasis every CPU

[cloud oasis]

?

yea?

[stoic island]

You can have 2 10850k side by side

and have both of them perform differently

[cloud oasis]

oh

[stoic island]

despite everything else being the exact same

[cloud oasis]

then how 2 get good chip

[prisma stag]

luck

[stoic island]

it's called silicon lottery for a reason lol

[cloud oasis]

oh

hmm

rng i see

[wide sparrow]

Mmmm

[wide sparrow]

[little osprey]

Sup, Is there a particularly effective way to clean your tempered glass and your whole PC in general ? Planning to clean that dust off and those stains too this weekend.

[cloud oasis]

Canned air and wet wipes

[vapid moth]

@stoic island I don't really know much about the requirements for twitch streaming (since this is going to be my first pc) but would that list you drew up for me be able to stream to twitch okay?

[pallid summit]

how to a make a bootable drive for an MSI bios?

do I even need a bootable drive for M-FLASH?

[desert gulch]

You updating motherboard bios?

@pallid summit

[pallid summit]

not now but I want to prepare for zen 3

[desert gulch]

If you want to update your motherboard bios you download the new bios to a USB drive, it could even be a 1g drive, the go thru bios and open the folder using the bios thing

[pallid summit]

what is DOS mode vs M-FLASH

[desert gulch]

Idk

I dont use msi

I have asus

They're a little different with names

What mobo is it?

[pallid summit]

MSI MEG X570 UNIFY

I found the instructions online but I don't know which set I need

there is DOS mode, there is M-FLASH, and there is another M-FLASH that updates the BIOS and ME

[desert gulch]

You probably have to wait for Zen 3 to be out first

[pallid summit]

I'm going to wait but I want to be prepared so I don't make mistakes

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[pallid summit]

learn up as much as I can now

[desert gulch]

Id look up something like "how to update a msi motherboards bios"

[little leaf]

@pallid summit do you have the board?

[desert gulch]

And find a bios that looks like yours

[pallid summit]

It's in the mail

[little leaf]

Or are you thinking you have to update a new one

[desert gulch]

And do you have reliable power?

[little leaf]

I wouldnt buy parts separately

They could come doa and you wouldnt know

Far past the return window

[desert gulch]

If your power goes out in a bios update it coukd brick you motherboard

[little leaf]

Also that

But that’s unlikely

[desert gulch]

Depends on your location

[little leaf]

Either way you shouldnt have bought a board

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[little leaf]

Until you got the chip

[desert gulch]

Was it off wegg or amazon?

[pallid summit]

newegg

[desert gulch]

Oof

[little leaf]

If you font take it out of the box you can return for free

[desert gulch]

Do you have to pay return shipping for wegg?

[little leaf]

No

[desert gulch]

O

[little leaf]

Dont think so

[desert gulch]

Thats nice

I never had anything doa or the need to return anything so I was pretty lucky

Off wegg

[little leaf]

Same

[pallid summit]

I ordered it ahead to beat the overload of orders they will be getting when zen 3 becomes available

[little leaf]

Thats not how it works

And pluss

You have no guarantee you will get one

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[little leaf]

This could be the same as the 3000 launch

[desert gulch]

Imagine if its months b4 you get a Zen 3

I think mobo stock will do alot better since they've been making and stockinf them for a while now

[pallid summit]

I'm not worried about stock

[little leaf]

Also x570 is usually a waste for most people, I would not recommend it.

[desert gulch]

Yeah

[pallid summit]

just extended shipping times

[little leaf]

We shall see

But if it is

i told you so

[desert gulch]

X570 is only for them really expensive cpu and GPU conbos

[little leaf]

Most likely corona wont be over by then

[desert gulch]

Like 3950x and 3090

[pallid summit]

lol I have 30 days to return

[desert gulch]

Yeh

But you may find its doa

But cant test it without a cpu

And you may not get a zen 3 for 30 days

[pallid summit]

if I don't get a CPU before the 30 days I will return everything

[desert gulch]

O

[little leaf]

You know have fun with your plan loo

Im fairly sure there will be stock issues at first but we shall see

[desert gulch]

Yup

I think alot of people have been waiting for Zen 3 tbh

Since new nvidia stuff came out so i bet alot of people saw Zen 3 was right around the corner and just decided to go Zen 3

[pallid summit]

well... I guess I'll have to pray to the silicon gods

pray with me?

[little osprey]

Maybe it won't be quite as bad for cpus because they're maybe not quite as popular as a graphics card release and there might be more of them made as well?

[vital token]

i am got to bulid or buy a pc for 1000 dollars any recomendations

[stoic island]

@vapid moth that was a 2am ping, but yea, NVENC is good.

[exotic bison]

That's why I'm waiting till at least December to get a Zen 3 chip to get them time to fix any problems at launch

[wary geode]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tDNwVc

@vital token yeah here ya go spend the extra money its worh ity but id also wait for the release release of the zen 3 to see if prices dip

[arctic jungle]

help me find lian li uni fans for < 100$ 🥺 🤞

[violet harness]

Go to #old-cooling I guess @arctic jungle

[arctic jungle]

@violet harness -_-

bruh

[trail ravine]

lmao

[violet harness]

It’s simple

[arctic jungle]

when ur a regular who's brand new trying to redirect someone higher rank ;)

xD

this is general build chat @violet harness

[violet harness]

Don’t misuse channels

[arctic jungle]

xD

ok mod

[trail ravine]

i mean to be fair it would prolly be more effective idk i dont talk here

[violet harness]

My rank has nothing to do with this

[arctic jungle]

help me find lian li uni fans for < 100$ 🥺 🤞

[violet harness]

Sigh

[trail ravine]

hes just trying to be helpful antago :/

[arctic jungle]

@violet harness chill out

[violet harness]

U chill

[trail ravine]

he seems p chill to me antago

[arctic jungle]

@trail ravine there's a reason I ask here. How many ppl actually check cooling chat

[trail ravine]

fair

lmao

[arctic jungle]

ok i have class byee

[violet harness]

Y r u pinging me when I’m active in this channel smh

[foggy hazel]

@arctic jungle do remember, you have been here a while, that means you should know how to actually behave.

[trail ravine]

im in class lmao

[violet harness]

Thank you naed

This guy just freaks out n tells me to chill when u give simple advice

[foggy hazel]

re: how many people actually check #old-cooling: Plenty, and if you ask there. you will get an answer.

[arctic jungle]

ah yes thank you Mr. Naedmod

chill

it's build chat

[violet harness]

Nice attitude

[arctic jungle]

legit any build questions

[foggy hazel]

@arctic jungle how about you go focus on your classes

[arctic jungle]

that's a build q

[violet harness]

But ur supposed to go to cooling

[arctic jungle]

actually no I think i'de rather argue this out

[violet harness]

Well no ones on ur side

[arctic jungle]

@violet harness no, i'm not. this is build chat

[foggy hazel]

there is no argument.

[arctic jungle]

build questions, remember?

not going to cooling chat

[foggy hazel]

there is a debate about how much you jumped the gun.

[arctic jungle]

?

[foggy hazel]

considering that his original comment to you was polite.

how about you put down the chip and carry on?

[violet harness]

If your not talking about your whole build and just fans, go to #old-cooling

[arctic jungle]

i'm alright, thx for the suggestion @violet harness

[violet harness]

Sigh

[foggy hazel]

@violet harness disengage.

[violet harness]

Pinging me again when I’m active in the chat

Yessir

[arctic jungle]

xD

don't mind naed

[foggy hazel]

as for the pings. i personally do them like that for being able to find things later on. (because its so much simpler to narrow down chat history search when you have the names)

[violet harness]

Talking about you antago

[arctic jungle]

idc

anyways i'll ttyl

[violet harness]

That attitude won’t get you anywhere in life

[viral ore]

at least this is discord

and not life

[violet harness]

Not the point

[viral ore]

ik, thats my point

[arctic jungle]

xD

[stoic island]

@arctic jungle yaknow, people that have actually been around the server would check cooling :P

Like me and Naed would check for sure

[violet harness]

Exactly

[stoic island]

But anyways

@violet harness this is THE multipurpose chat

everything goes here

[viral ore]

i mean, it doesnt really matter where you ask, people talk in places like tech-deals all the time lmao

[arctic jungle]

exactly

idk why they being so uptight abt it

[foggy hazel]

@stoic island aside from spam, that goes in #general-chat

[stoic island]

Of course

[foggy hazel]

it was a suggestion @arctic jungle

how about you pull the stick out?

[viral ore]

oooooo

[foggy hazel]

might be nice to lean on as a crutch later on

[viral ore]

nice

[violet harness]

😂

[arctic jungle]

xD

roasted

i'll keep that one in mind next time someone says that 🤣

[violet harness]

Yeah u got roasted

[foggy hazel]

spreading wrong information "for a joke" is annoying for those of us that actually help people.

[violet harness]

spreading wrong information "for a joke" is annoying for those of us that actually help people.
@foggy hazel wait who r u talking to

[arctic jungle]

me ofc

[violet harness]

Thought so

[foggy hazel]

anyone that reads it

[violet harness]

Just wanted to make sure

[arctic jungle]

who else is he critisizing rn?

lol

[foggy hazel]

its not a critique

its a observation

[violet harness]

I’m talking about the roast

[foggy hazel]

talking about the ones it apply to.

[arctic jungle]

defo critique ;)

dw naed

[violet harness]

Uh pretty sure it’s not

[arctic jungle]

ily

[violet harness]

If the dude who said it says it’s not

[idle compass]

What is best parts for a 1.5k usd gaming pc build

[stoic island]

I mean

it applies to me too :(

[arctic jungle]

@idle compass i'll get u a pcpp

[stoic island]

But hey, you gotta have a joke once in a while

@idle compass Most importantly, when you be building?

[viral ore]

@idle compass what are you using the pc for?

[idle compass]

@idle compass Most importantly, when you be building?
@stoic island In Novemember

[viral ore]

lmao we all mentioned him

[stoic island]

:)

Ryzen 5th gen

[idle compass]

@idle compass what are you using the pc for?
@viral ore Gaming

[viral ore]

5600x?

[stoic island]

I'll let you guys do it

[viral ore]

pog

[violet harness]

@idle compass i'll get u a pcpp
@arctic jungle lol u have no clue when they will be building and what they will be using it for

Ok well now we know

But, don’t just jump to conclusions when you have no info

[stoic island]

@violet harness meh, I do that too sometimes

It's quite simple nowadays

[viral ore]

opinion on physical size of the pc? @idle compass

[violet harness]

Still it’s not that good of a idea

[stoic island]

1500$ means 10600k+3080, or 5600x+3080 today

the only thing that needs to change is CPU+mobo, which can be easily changed afterwards

Case, PSU, Storage, GPU are all fairly set in stone

[viral ore]

also do you need wifi?

[idle compass]

No

Ethernet

[arctic jungle]

@violet harness wanna not randomly call out ppl for no reason?

just a thought

if he wants to know 'what parts, gaming' it's pretty simple

[violet harness]

I’m not

It applies to everyone

[arctic jungle]

@arctic jungle lol u have no clue when they will be building and what they will be using it for
@violet harness

hm

very much adressing everyone

[viral ore]

@arctic jungle @violet harness yall need to stop talking to each other for a bit

[arctic jungle]

gj

[violet harness]

I just specifically pointed it at you in that message

[arctic jungle]

👏

[stoic island]

@arctic jungle @violet harness block each other for your own good

[arctic jungle]

@arctic jungle @violet harness yall need to stop talking to each other for a bit
@viral ore tbh ^^

[viral ore]

you guys are just fanning each others flames

not good

[foggy hazel]

@violet harness @arctic jungle please go back to #general-chat

[arctic jungle]

no im ok thx naed ❤️

love youuu

[stoic island]

That's not a request, that's a command >:P

[arctic jungle]

[violet harness]

K yeah I just blocked him

[arctic jungle]

didn't know that naed could click on #general-chat for me

lmaoo

[viral ore]

oh, whats the current bios update climate looking like for 500 series motherboards?

[arctic jungle]

im not blocking him bc i don't like the annoying 1 message hidden thing, but yea thas fine

[viral ore]

im pretty sure we have to wait for 5000 series compatable boards, right?

[stoic island]

agesa 1.0.8 has been on mobos for the last 2 months

and will boot with 5th gen chips

[viral ore]

awesome

[stoic island]

agesa 1.1.0 are launching right now for 500 boards

[arctic jungle]

@viral ore I think it's coming out for b550 and x570 on launch with zen 3 release

and some launched rn

for most boards in nov I heard

[foggy hazel]

@arctic jungle factually wrong.

[arctic jungle]

@viral ore it uses AM4 socket, so any previous boards will work for zen 3... I rc b550 or x570 tho

[violet harness]

@arctic jungle factually wrong.
@foggy hazel LOL

[foggy hazel]

see above, @stoic island answered it right

[viral ore]

i know what the AM4 socket is, im the last person you need to tell that too lmao

[arctic jungle]

xD then why askkk

[viral ore]

cuz that wasnt my question?

[stoic island]

BTW depends on the board for 1.0.8 too, I only checked x570 plus wifi, which had it for 2 months now, so you need to check on a board-to-board bases

[violet harness]

It’s so annoying when people think they know what they’re talking about but they don’t, like dude just say u don’t know instead of saying false info

[arctic jungle]

5000 comaptible mobos?

[viral ore]

i figured as much @stoic island

[arctic jungle]

that's all am4 boards

[viral ore]

no

its not

[arctic jungle]

well

most

[foggy hazel]

no

far from it actually

[stoic island]

Question here:

[viral ore]

its on a per board basis

[foggy hazel]

read the full comment before you start typing @arctic jungle

[stoic island]

the question isn't about 5000 series compatibility with board, the question is about bios updates.

[viral ore]

b450 and x470 are getting support as well, but it will vary based on manufacturer

oh wow, gigabyte has some zen 3 cpus right in the cpu support list

[violet harness]

Yea

[viral ore]

that makes it easy

[violet harness]

U know what I hate

[viral ore]

i dont think i wanna know tbh

[violet harness]

People who get a really good cpu but then a trash gpu

Bc it holds back the cpu

[viral ore]

oh, i mean, it depends on what your using your system for

and no not really

i have a 10920x, but still have a 1080

[violet harness]

Well yeah I have a friend who get a 3900x and 970

And it just made me cringe

[viral ore]

thats fine

[violet harness]

Gpu is usually more important tho

[viral ore]

gaming will be limited to how fast the gpu can render frames, and 1080p is the ideal resolution

and at 1080p, the 970 will do what it needs to do

[violet harness]

My point is if u get a good cpu get a good gpu aswell

[viral ore]

also those two components tell me he is either using the machine for more than just gaming, or he plans to get a 30 series or big navi card when they come available, or get a used 20 series

also sounds like he carried the 970 over from a past build

or picked it up on ebay for like 120

as a temp card

[violet harness]

also those two components tell me he is either using the machine for more than just gaming, or he plans to get a 30 series or big navi card when they come available, or get a used 20 series
@viral ore nope he straight up wanted it for his only gaming pc setup

It was gonna be permanent

[viral ore]

well, at least hes got a good upgrade path

[violet harness]

And I told him that’s not the best idea to keep a 970 permanent

With a 3900x

Cause that’s like 3 gens behind I think

Anyways, gotta get to school

[viral ore]

@idle compass https://pcpartpicker.com/list/376f8J heres a rough idea of what im thinking, using the 3600xt as a placeholder for the 5600x

[stoic island]

Sassy, 3080 :)

[viral ore]

of course, getting a 3070 gonna be tough, even in november

3080? maybe if 1440p

but if 1080p then 3070

[stoic island]

I say 3080 for best performance at 1500$ :P

[viral ore]

also gotta allocate extra budget for tax, ship, and monitor

[stoic island]

could go pro4 for mobo, go rgb-less ram.

I mean, monitor was not included in this budget

[viral ore]

i mean, he never mentioned it, so i just assumed whatever he had now was crap

cuz i forgot to ask :P

[stoic island]

:P

and shipping is included in most entries

and tax is usually mentioned if they need this after tax :P

[viral ore]

also, 30 series in november is highly unlikely anyway so hes realistically stuck with whatever amd is offering at the time

tax is definitely not apart of the pcpp list

tax would be another 100 dollars for me in NY

[idle compass]

Ok

It is compatible?

Like I wont run into any space or hardware issues

[little osprey]

Can anyone recommend me an affordable 3080 build, my MSI trio 3080 will be coming the 26 and i still can't manage to make a build :3

[viral ore]

is what compatible?

@little osprey budget?

[idle compass]

The list

[viral ore]

after the 3080 purchase

if what i put in the list wasnt compatible, would i have sent it here?

[little osprey]

1300-1500 us dollars

if lower is possible that would be lovely

[viral ore]

when do you need your build by? are you trying to get it asap or would you be willing to wait a bit

like, if you were to buy the rest of your components beginning of November

[little osprey]

mid November i wonna have pc

my laptop can't run csgo anymore and i wonna play so the sooner the better xD

[viral ore]

ok

do you need wifi?

[little osprey]

yes plz

[viral ore]

and would you want the system to be large or smallish

[little osprey]

it doesnt rlly matter to me as long as the msi trio can fit

[viral ore]

ok

what monitor do you have?

@little osprey

[little osprey]

didn't get one yet but im planning on getting a 2k monitor

[viral ore]

does that fall under the 1200-1500 dollar budget?

[little osprey]

nah

[viral ore]

do you care much for rgb? would you pay 15 dollars more for your ram to have a strip of lights across the top?

[little osprey]

lol no rgb pl0x

[viral ore]

dope

[balmy patio]

ayo

[stoic island]

Please say 1440p if that's what you mean

"2k" is confusing

[little osprey]

yes thats what i meant 1440p

[viral ore]

@stoic island DR4 or DRP4?

[stoic island]

DRP4 for sure

DR4 kinda sucks relatively

but also keep in mind mugen 5 rev b

and like

ninja 5

[viral ore]

ugly silver tho

[stoic island]

:P

I'm a D15 guy

[small osprey]

Can anyone check this? Gonna buy once 3080 back in stock. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TL6QVc

[stoic island]

@small osprey get Revolution D.F. 850w

and GMMK is like 115$ not 150$

[small osprey]

Is that better than rmx?

[stoic island]

it's 30$ cheaper

[small osprey]

No cuz i was gonna buy switches

[stoic island]

same quality

what

[small osprey]

Ok

[stoic island]

it's like 90$ for the board, 10$ for caps

[small osprey]

Like other switches

[stoic island]

unless you're gonna buy 50$ switches

[small osprey]

Its 30

For switches

[stoic island]

@small osprey it's 70$ for the board, 25$ GMMK keycaps, soooo

125$ total not 150$

and also

get a PC37x :D

[small osprey]

Oh yeah forgot to change headset

[viral ore]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZmhXHz @little osprey heres what i came up with, assuming youre looking to buy asap

[small osprey]

@little osprey neither get amd lol

[stoic island]

lol

@viral ore you bought the 3080 already?

[viral ore]

lol no, this is for the dude i mentioned

[stoic island]

No I mean them

@little osprey get 10600k

[viral ore]

they* did

[stoic island]

oh fun

:P

[little osprey]

@viral ore this is great but quick question is there a huge difference between the i910900 k and the cpu that u mentioned and can i upgrade it latter on?

[small osprey]

@stoic island i feel like pc37x kinda overpriced soo imma get a shp9500. Is the rest of build good?

[stoic island]

wdym?

for a headset pc37x not very overpriced, shp9500 good if you get a boom pro or a modmic tho

[small osprey]

Like its all plastic and its like $120.

[stoic island]

since I think I saw a headset in your thing

I mean, it is very good

[little osprey]

MR111

[stoic island]

wut

[little osprey]

I WANT

U

TO

MAKE

ME

700$ 500$ AND 800$ BUILDS

ok ty

[languid nimbus]

[stoic island]

umk

[inland parrot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zWgxYg this one has to be the best one @stoic island

[stoic island]

considering what you already bought ye

[inland parrot]

I was talking about the gpu and motherborad lol

[small osprey]

@stoic island is the rest of build good tho

[inland parrot]

But i will go with this build

[stoic island]

mhm

[viral ore]

@little osprey the extra 2 cores you get from the 10900k isnt worth the extra 300 dollars it costs

[stoic island]

ssenti my memory is horrible lel

one sec

other than fans being expensive and second monitor being 75hz it's p good

[inland parrot]

@stoic island be roststing everyone build

https://tenor.com/view/nah-im-just-kidding-jk-joking-just-kidding-haha-gif-14660749

[stoic island]

yas

I eat builds for breakfast

[small osprey]

Lol i dont need 144hz on second monitor

[stoic island]

mhm

just pointing out

those thingies are just side notes

[small osprey]

Its just gonna be for like discord and recording software or wutever

Mm

Fans used to be 15, idk why it went up

[stoic island]

@little osprey 500$
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YhcsJf

[little osprey]

k

@viral ore would u recommend going for high refresh rate monitor 1080p or 1440 144hz for this build

[inland parrot]

LETS ALL AGREE THAT MR111 LIKES MY BUILD AND THINKS IT IS COOL AND BETTER THAN THE ONES THAT I PUT HERE

[viral ore]

you could do a 1440p 240hz monitor with this build

[stoic island]

I agree

[viral ore]

personally tho, i would suggest a 1440p 144hz

240hz at that res is too much

money

[inland parrot]

@stoic island going to upgarde later in the future. Just need something for now

[stoic island]

mmm

[little osprey]

@viral ore alright, thanks!

mr1111

dont forget about me bbg

[small osprey]

So here revised https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gDgf8J

[still roost]

aeqtra#6448 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[little osprey]

🧦

[small osprey]

F

[little osprey]

i kma

i forgot

about

the

very

sensitive

filter

[night storm]

Ban

[little osprey]

700$ 500$ AND 800$ BUILDS
@little osprey mr1111

please

[small osprey]

Why ban @night storm it was one time lol

[stoic island]

@little osprey I make one list at a time lmao

I can't make all 3 at once

[night storm]

Lol

[little osprey]

mr1111