building-and-recc-chat

[foggy hazel]

IF the person does what you are saying:

"wait 5 months for the latest intel generation cpus"

they will end up with a Tiger Lake cpu

which is slower than the zen3 chips

so, please, do elaborate on your logic

because so far, you are not making any logical sense.

[covert steppe]

if im not making logical sense go ahead

buy the 10600k

👍

[foggy hazel]

Read again @covert steppe

[covert steppe]

na

not worth my time

[stoic island]

There might be some links you might not be making. 11th gen Intel is Tiger lake.
We have a Tiger lake CPU benchmarked right up there, the 1185G7.

[foggy hazel]

that is your choice. i am honestly curious how you think things actually work thou.

[foggy hazel]

oy! you have to pay mike a cut on that popcorn @hardy cairn

[hardy cairn]

Mike can have some!

[stoic island]

Hmm, I read "oy" as like "oo-ee", but I read "oi" as like "oo-ii"

[polar python]

so...

should i buy 10600k

[stoic island]

Basically, go ahead with 10600k :)

[polar python]

or no?

o

ok

thanks

[stoic island]

yw.

[hardy cairn]

Anybody know if this mb will post with a gen 3 zen in it? If not, how easy is it update the bios if I only got a laptop available? Can I make a bios update thumbdrive for it?

Check this out on @Newegg: ASUS Prime X570-Pro Ryzen 3 AM4 with PCIe Gen4, Dual M.2, HDMI, SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.2 Gen 2 ATX Motherboard https://www.newegg.com/asus-prime-x570-pro/p/N82E16813119196?Item=N82E16813119196&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-13-119-196-_-10142020

Forgive me if this is a dumb question. Last pc I built was 5 years ago, and it was an intel

[little osprey]

this psu good? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3F2rxr/corsair-cx-2017-650w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020122-na my pc is gonna run at around 300watts

[stoic island]

Heyo, to be honest, we don't really know atm. I'd suggest you wait and see for a bit. I believe AMD released a statement saying it'll be able to boot with AGESA 1.0.8 which was quite a recent update for most motherboards, from around 2 months ago.

Yes, it'll be just fine

CX is quite a good PSU for the mid end.

Just don't buy CXm

[hardy cairn]

Thanks!

[little osprey]

ty lol

i was gonna get a cxm

[stoic island]

And they say AGESA 1.1.0 is going to be optimal once they do start rolling that out, but 1.0.8 can boot.

I'm gonna try and grab the source to make sure I'm giving the correct info, brb.

@hardy cairn here,

Sourced from Tweaktown, which got it from AMD.

[hardy cairn]

My God I'm glad folks like you are so willing to help! Thank you!

[stoic island]

:)

And specifically for the X570-pro, it was released 2 months ago

[upbeat lodge]

I’m asking for a friend can I build a good pc for under 500 dollars

[stoic island]

Yes

Well for ~500$ you can

[upbeat lodge]

Pre build

[stoic island]

Here it is again,
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TrgVnL

oh

good prebuilt under 500$ is gonna be a no lmao

[upbeat lodge]

He’s dumb

[stoic island]

unless you get some really good deals

@hardy cairn and by the way, the "bios flashing with a USB without a CPU feature" is known (to me at least) as Bios flashback, and it seems like the x570-pro does not have that feature sadly.

I can find motherboards with that feature if you'd like.

[hardy cairn]

Oh! Cool! Thanks for the info! I'll probably just buy it at launch coupled with an approved motherboard and adjust my build accordingly then!

[stoic island]

Actually I'll just tell you some at around that price range

[hardy cairn]

Ok

[stoic island]

X570 Aorus Elite, X570 Gaming X, X570 Tomahawk Wifi, B550 Elite, B550-a
some to start off at ~200$ or so.

And if you feel like looking around yourself, it can be quite useful to learn your way around this motherboard mastersheet :
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wmsTYK9Z3-jUX5LGRoFnsZYZiW1pfiDZnKCjaXyzd1o/edit?usp=sharing

[hardy cairn]

Ah ok! Thanks! I'm going for a 5950x and 3090 workststion/home pc

[stoic island]

Temporary filter view as it explains, and choose what you want to see :)

Fair enough, sounds pretty nice :)

[hardy cairn]

Hope so! Going for that white, clean aesthetic with it as well.

Thanks for all your help. I'll be reading all this right away!

[stoic island]

Alright, have a good one!

[hardy cairn]

You too!

[stoic island]

:)

[split osprey]

'CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor

Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

Hard Drive: Team MP34 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5- 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

GPU: PNY GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB Dual Video Card

Case: Cougar MX330-G Air ATX Mid Tower Case

Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply,

thiss good

[stoic island]

PCPP is nicer to look at, but yea, I say that's good.

[pallid summit]

this whole bios flashing thing for 500 series motherboards is such a mess

[split osprey]

lol

[stoic island]

eh

not that bad tbh

with 1.0.8 being supported for booting on zen 3

(if you're talking flashing for zen 3)

[split osprey]

@stoic island you sent me tho specks lmap just to doble check is it for gaming and streaming

[stoic island]

lol yea my memory do be bad

[split osprey]

lol

[polar python]

ive had a ton of ppl tell me to get 10600k
ive had a ton of ppl tell me to get 3700x
and ive had a ton of ppl tell me to get 5600x

i still dont know what to get

:[

[little osprey]

3700x all the way

[polar python]

ive been going back and forth about this all day lol

[little osprey]

3700x or 5600x

[polar python]

id be using it for games and school

if that helps

[stoic island]

I still think easiest thing for you is 10600k, reason being : 3700x might become lotta buyers remorse when 5600x comes, but when 5600x comes, you're gonna have to wait for stock

[pallid summit]

all the motherboards that have been put on shelves before that bios version was made available don't really have a way of being flashed

[polar python]

someone said will become outdated next march

[pallid summit]

and talking to customer service isn't clearing up anything on whether they will flash old inventory

[cursive wharf]

before recommending CPU, what's the budget?

purpose of PC

what do you have?

[stoic island]

@pallid summit ahem, bios flashback :D

A good amount of boards have bios flashback

[split osprey]

thiss good

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor

Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

Hard Drive: Team MP34 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5- 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

GPU: Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card

Case: Cougar MX330-G Air ATX Mid Tower Case

Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

[stoic island]

and AMD is still going to offer bios update lending kits

[split osprey]

that good

[cursive wharf]

@split osprey Mr1111 already answer that, you also havent specified the price payed for all that

[split osprey]

thats a difrnet

[polar python]

before recommending CPU, what's the budget?
@cursive wharf 1.2/1.3k

[split osprey]

spec

[polar python]

purpose of PC
@cursive wharf gaming and school

[split osprey]

@cursive wharf that is a dif list

[polar python]

what do you have?
@cursive wharf wdym?

sry for pinging u 3x

lol

[pallid summit]

the one I want doesn't have a flashback @stoic island

[stoic island]

yea, but many do

[split osprey]

@stoic island

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor

Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory

Hard Drive: Team MP34 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5- 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

GPU: Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card

Case: Cougar MX330-G Air ATX Mid Tower Case

Power Supply: Corsair CX (2017) 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

thiss good its a dif spec

[stoic island]

so that's the problem for half the boards gone

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I've answer already

yes its good

[split osprey]

that i difrent specs

[cursive wharf]

wdym?
@polar python you might have already had say a GPU for example, and all you were doing was upgrading CPU/mobo

[polar python]

upgrading from craptop

[cursive wharf]

either way, 10600k/5600x I think is a bit tight for a 1.3k budget. Could spend that elsewhere first

cuz also sounds like new monitor

[stoic island]

tbh right now, I'd get 10600k+like 2060s, and call it a day, 3080 ain't getting stock soon, 5th gen ain't coming soon.

[polar python]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4VxycT

[stoic island]

because that's making a bad decision, but you won't have to deal with a ton of buyer's remorse at the same time

:D

[cursive wharf]

I mean, buy a 3100 and wait for 5600 non X stock and then buy

[little leaf]

that list isn't great

and why are you buying a 2070s for 400

[cursive wharf]

AMD has got to do $200/$250 CPU given popularity of $200 CPUs

[little leaf]

when you can get a 3070 for 500

[pallid summit]

talking to customer service they are telling me to send in an RMA to AMD and write 'BOOT kit required' in the problem description

[stoic island]

@pallid summit yea, AMD offers boot kits for you to update bios

they send you a CPU like 3000g or other similar low end CPU for you to update bios and then send back.

[pallid summit]

interesting

am I able to ask for it in advance so I can have it arrive at the same time I'm ready to build my computer?

[stoic island]

that was what I meant when I said this

Uh I'm not too sure

@pallid summit iirc it requires like picture proof of purchase of processor and motherboard

check though

[pallid summit]

ok

I sent an inquiry to their customer service

[polar python]

and why are you buying a 2070s for 400
@little leaf why not?

when you can get a 3070 for 500
@little leaf what about the 3060

its supposed to be like 300-400usd right?

[little osprey]

Is it better to pair a 3080 with an Intel or amd processor for gaming?

[polar python]

intel is supposed to be better for gaming

but i think amd is better

(zen 3)

[little osprey]

I see

[polar python]

can someone make me a build w/ r5 5600x and 3070

budget of 1.4-1.5k

uses - gaming and school

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8sg8Rk

Replace 3700x with 5600x

[little leaf]

@polar python sorry 3070

[little osprey]

And 3080 to 3070 if you'd like

[polar python]

wha?

o

okay

i see

[still roost]

Catnum1#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Catnum1#0001 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Catnum1#0001 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[potent prairie]

Okie bye 👀

[polar python]

👀

[little osprey]

Damn bye bye 😂

@polar python do you need wifi or no?

[polar python]

nope

[little osprey]

Hmm than upgrade the motherboard as well 😂

Lemme reassemble the list

What's the price of the 5600x?

[polar python]

300

iirc

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jYCsYg

[polar python]

thanks

[little osprey]

@polar python you might wanna have @stoic island review it just to get a better opinion on it

[polar python]

alr

for some reason i dont like matx

[little osprey]

Hmm ight

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xJQ8dD

Once again have Mr1111 review it because I'm not the best at making lists

[next kestrel]

get a better case:P

[viral ore]

nah, 330-g is pog for the price

[covert steppe]

theres much more better choices

[little osprey]

Mx330g pretty good imo

[covert steppe]

work smart

not hard

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d8C2LZGf2ZWiDvRWZdOr1EjsaYIBYxT10yzTp_JFT14/edit#gid=0

[hardy cairn]

hey, anybody got any experience with this case?

https://www.newegg.com/white-corsair-crystal-series-570x-rgb-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811139092

[covert steppe]

whats the question?

[hardy cairn]

will a 3090 fit well, or am I gonna be cramming it in?

[covert steppe]

read the specs

[viral ore]

3090 will fit

its big for a graphics card, that doesnt mean its actually gigantic like people seem to think. it will fit in a majority of ATX cases

[hardy cairn]

Thanks! just needed to make sure before ordering!

[covert steppe]

if you aint going mini itx i wouldnt bother thinkin if a 3090 would fit

[viral ore]

also, why are you getting a 3090?

[covert steppe]

but with a $180 budget i suggest you to look at the link i posted

[viral ore]

any specific reason?

the link you posted literally only has like 20 cases

[hardy cairn]

I'm making a workstation/home computer

[viral ore]

what kind of programs are you trying to run?

[covert steppe]

thats because those cases have been rated by other builds for all 3 cats

airflow,looks, management

[hardy cairn]

3D modeling, game design, video editing. the works.

[covert steppe]

airflow,looks, management
@covert steppe in other words best bang for your bucks

[viral ore]

what programs specifically? is this for work you are getting paid for or as a hobby

[hardy cairn]

also, thanks, I'll look into those cases

Houdini. Zbrush, Unreal 5, Substance, Adobe suite.

work

[viral ore]

assuming this is a career you plan on sticking with, i can see how the 3090 would be a good investment

when are you planning to purchase all your components?

[hardy cairn]

as soon as the 3rd party benchmarks for the zen 3s tell me if I want a 5000 series or a threadripper

[viral ore]

dont worry about what benchmarks say, just think about when you need the system

[little osprey]

MR1111

is offline

tuff

[viral ore]

you can wait as long as you want for more performance, but you gotta buy at some point

and you probably dont wanna wait for Zen 3 based threadrippers

also keep in mind the vastly increased cost of any HEDT platform

[hardy cairn]

I'm also waiting for my house to finish being rebuilt. housefire destroyed my office and workstation. so, I'm waiting a few months anyhow.

[viral ore]

ahh i see

[hardy cairn]

probably not going with a threadripper, just because of cost

[viral ore]

the 3090 wont have any competition for a very long time, so its a safe bet to plan on getting that card. im sure it will be more available in a few months

yeah i would avoid threadripper

i guarentee you single core perf will be worse, so its only a matter of if you need more than 16/32 for your workloads

and personally i doubt you would need more than that

[hardy cairn]

I agree

I mostly do gpu rendering anyway

[viral ore]

a 3090, 5950x, 2x32gb DDR4, and a quality AM4 board is gonna run you ~3k USD, plus about 700 for the rest of the system

[covert steppe]

im sure prices will drop if he waits till next year

[viral ore]

no they wont

[covert steppe]

wanna get?

[hardy cairn]

that's pretty much the build I'm going with actually

[covert steppe]

bet*

[viral ore]

me betting has nothing to do with facts

[covert steppe]

there is no facts

[viral ore]

prices dont just "drop"

[covert steppe]

intel has un annouced products

coming first quarter of 2021

as far as amd

[viral ore]

amd isnt gonna be adjusting their prices

for intel

[covert steppe]

amd prices shrink within the first month

by half

[viral ore]

probably not

[hardy cairn]

I'm probably ordering sometime in november anyway.

[viral ore]

11th gen is not gonna be impressive, i can tell you that

this november??

[covert steppe]

doesnt matter

[viral ore]

or next?

[covert steppe]

were talkin amd

[hardy cairn]

this one

[viral ore]

oh ok

[hardy cairn]

house has been being built for months. it's almost done

[covert steppe]

house has been being built for months. it's almost done
@hardy cairn whenever your ready

thats the best time to start lookin

[viral ore]

i mean, even if you arent ready, you can always leave parts in the boxes until you are

[covert steppe]

or else

its pointless

prices drop newer stuff comes

you know ......

[viral ore]

thats not how that works

prices dont just "drop"

[covert steppe]

its exactly how it works

[viral ore]

its never worked like that

[covert steppe]

my friend as much as you deny what i said, you know im right

[viral ore]

9980xe is still 2k, intel never changed MSRP for it, and they never will

[covert steppe]

its the truth

[hardy cairn]

I've been nabbing sales on crap that isn't build specific. prime day got me a few things. hence why I was asking about the cases.

[viral ore]

even though the 10980xe is 1k

[covert steppe]

I've been nabbing sales on crap that isn't build specific. prime day got me a few things. hence why I was asking about the cases.
@hardy cairn your case is the last thing you want to spend money on unless you have extra money

[hardy cairn]

I've been saving for months. I've got a 4.5k budget. I can splurge a little.

[covert steppe]

thats enough

just need to know when your ready to pull it

thats how we get the best deals

[hardy cairn]

just as soon as I'm certain the 5000 series doesn't have some horrible drawbacks, and I can buy a motherboard that'll post with it. That's when I'm buying everything.

[viral ore]

Zen 3 is a Zen 2 refinement, there will be no drawbacks, any kinks have been smoothed out

[covert steppe]

then just wait for the details

im also on the same boat of waiting

[hardy cairn]

well, that's good to hear. @viral ore. @covert steppe

Thanks for your help both of you.

[covert steppe]

sure

[viral ore]

as for the motherboard support, you will have to wait for A520, B550, and X570 boards to be sold as "Ryzen 5000 series compatible"

[hardy cairn]

@viral ore True.

[viral ore]

by the time november 5th rolls around, you will find many boards available that are listed with this

[hardy cairn]

Oh hey, I got a question for both of you! especially you @covert steppe since you are into the overall quality of a case. . .

[covert steppe]

sure

[hardy cairn]

I want a good looking glass case. preferably with some good airflow. any suggestions?

[covert steppe]

did u see the link i sent u?

it has a section

with pictures

[viral ore]

lots of people here like the TD500 mesh

[hardy cairn]

$200~$300 yeah, I'm looking through them now. I was just wondering your favorites

[covert steppe]

i make my own cases

i modify them

but thats me

[hardy cairn]

oh that's cool!

[covert steppe]

its easy for me to modify them cuz of where i work

we cut metals

plastics

and all type of crap

[hardy cairn]

nice! Shop work is always fun. has a lot of perks.

[covert steppe]

well i cant just go and do w/e

its a job\

lol

so i just mostly do the hard stuff i cant do at home

[hardy cairn]

also, Thanks @viral ore I like that case too!

[covert steppe]

wat work

if u want a cheap case

i can recommend one

[hardy cairn]

sure!

[covert steppe]

meshify c

[hardy cairn]

That's another one I was looking at!

[covert steppe]

theres 2 version

one is bulky

the other one is smaller

same case

[hardy cairn]

cool, thanks for your help both of you!

[little osprey]

is a msi gaming x GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER good with a i7

[lime forge]

what i7 @little osprey

[covert steppe]

good can mean anything to different people

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vTJFTJ

what should i change

[vital warren]

woah $650 2060 super

please do not pay that

[little osprey]

ik

im gonna switch it lol

[vital warren]

whats ur gpu budget

[little osprey]

400

Gigabyte OC GeForce RTX 2060?

is that good

[vital warren]

can def get better

i'd wait for like a 3060ti whenever that comes out

or 3060

idk

should be around that price

[little osprey]

mhm

is it announced yet

[foggy hazel]

no

[vital warren]

not officially

[little osprey]

plus might sell out a lil fast

lol

[foggy hazel]

and considering current production

i would NOT try and hold my breath waiting for it either

[vital warren]

i wouldnt get the 2060 though

eh

[little osprey]

what should i get

[foggy hazel]

depends on when you are building

[vital warren]

^^

[foggy hazel]

you building "now" (next week or so)?

[little osprey]

ima wait on the gpu see if something comes out

[foggy hazel]

you will be waiting for a minimum of 10 days

a max of 1 month (is my best guess)

[little osprey]

is everything else good

[foggy hazel]

-ish

[little osprey]

ok

[foggy hazel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gbLWZZ <- try and have a look here

ignore your psu choice for now, i will look at that next

[vital warren]

i was about to fix it beat me to it lmao

[little osprey]

ok

[foggy hazel]

i cheated @vital warren i did it when you started talking with him :)

[little osprey]

lol

[vital warren]

lol

[foggy hazel]

the reason for the changes in that list vs your own @little osprey is the following

mainboard = cheaper but better. and better future support.

[little osprey]

ok

[foggy hazel]

ram = faster and cheaper

ssd = double the size because 256 is a "tad" small for OS and essentials imo. Also, faster and better and less than double the price for double the space.

gpu = placeholder

[little osprey]

yes

[foggy hazel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MVFwPV

that is with a different PSU

and yes, that is way more expensive

it is also actually a good psu

and as a bonus, there is a 10 year warranty on it

[little osprey]

wtf

10 years

[foggy hazel]

that is normal for good psu's

shows faith in the product from the manufacturers side :)

[little osprey]

would that gpu be good

if i was to get it

[foggy hazel]

right this second ? yes

would it be good value for money with what we know is coming? no

[little osprey]

ok

[foggy hazel]

and that is basically the "problem" with building "right now"

all the things are coming "soon"

[little osprey]

so many things being leaked

and announced

[foggy hazel]

if you had asked us 4 weeks ago? i would have said "sure, go ahead, have fun"

[little osprey]

glhf

[foggy hazel]

aye

[little osprey]

lol

thanks

[foggy hazel]

you are very welcome :)

the best i can offer you is to check back in after the 25th of this month

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PxcQCL

[foggy hazel]

nda's lift there. and we will know what both AMD and nvidia are doing at that ponit

[little osprey]

thats my budget build

[foggy hazel]

i would personally NOT go with anything below 8 core

[little osprey]

mhm

[blazing steppe]

whelp @stoic island looks like I'm building in Dec instead and saving up till then

[foggy hazel]

that is good for you @blazing steppe

makes everything much easier to spec out

[blazing steppe]

yeah, and 3070

[foggy hazel]

and hopefully (for you) the stock situation is more reasonable at that time.

[blazing steppe]

and 5000 series ryzen

hopefully

[foggy hazel]

and the 5000 GPU's too

[blazing steppe]

that too

[little osprey]

intel on top

[blazing steppe]

not anymore

[little osprey]

yea lol

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6rm4Dc opinions? anything to change

[pallid summit]

is that from a paul's hardware build guide?

unless you plan on using more than one terabyte of disk space I would use that $50 of the HDD and get a 1TB M.2 NVME instead

[little osprey]

is that from a paul's hardware build guide?
@pallid summit no lmao

[pallid summit]

do you specifically need more than a terabyte of disk space?

[little osprey]

yes

[pallid summit]

well then, it looks good to me but there are more knowledgeable people here I'd wait to give their two cents before commiting

[gritty zenith]

if the best possible card i can get is a 2070, is a 2060 viable if i only got enough for a $300 gpu?

max gpu length is 175mm and the best card i know of in that form factor is 2070

[pallid summit]

2060 is no slouch

if you can get the 2070 get it, but don't feel bad about "settling" for the 2060 or 2060ti/super

it looks like you have the 1660super in the list though

[gritty zenith]

wrong porson >.>

and tell them to switch they 1660 super

you can get a 1660 super oc for $240 idk why this dude got a $400 one on his list

that's theft

[pallid summit]

oh lol I wasn't reading your name

[gritty zenith]

u good

lol

[pallid summit]

for some reason 2070's are cheaper than 2060 super's

or at least some of them

[gritty zenith]

i mean with how bad the non super 2000 series was i wouldn't be surprised

doesn't the 2060 super out perform the 2070?

[pallid summit]

idk

I haven't been paying close attention to nvidea

[gritty zenith]

nop it doesn't lol but it is really close

just looked at a quick benchmark comparison vid and its like

8fps off in the most extreme case

so like

[pallid summit]

user benchmark is showing 2070 is 5% better

[gritty zenith]

mm

bad

but then again cheaper + more performance

meh

[pallid summit]

@little osprey https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YTNJxc

[gritty zenith]

premium for "super"

[pallid summit]

the GPU markets have been weird lately

a total mess in fact

[gritty zenith]

yup

[pallid summit]

actually all PC parts have been messed up

[gritty zenith]

agreed

my biggest question is why tf ddr3 is more expensive than ddr4 in most cases

like?

?

[pallid summit]

like an R5 1600 is more expensive than the R5 3600

[gritty zenith]

luhmao

also just saw a $550 2060S

like bruh

[pallid summit]

I've seen 32GB of ram is about 30% more expensive than 64GB and all the speeds and latencies are the same

~~https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-64gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232452~~

wait, never mind.

[little osprey]

[gritty zenith]

lol

[ripe wedge]

Anyone here have a Z63 or Z73?

Nzxt kraken

[pastel briar]

@little osprey not sure what your budget or space requirements are but if your needing more storage space, I would get a SSD (or M.2 SSD) for your boot drive, I would suggest 512 or 1TB minimum, then go with a 4TB+ for the spinning rust storeage drive, again not knowing your budget (and I honestly could not give a toss to go faffing about looking if it was ever mentioned, so if you want to let me know please do) I would grab a 12TB for $260ish (USD) off amazon, that way you have ample storeage for your needs....hope this helps some, other then that your build you posted looks good to go

uuuug I cant wait to get into my new house.....LOL get my server rack in place and mount all my hardware and get that fired up......

[smoky jay]

I'm pretty good at PC parts and all that, but I'm not great with peripherals and if I had a budget of 2,000 dollars just for them, which monitor or monitor(s) and keyboard/mouse should I get?

[little osprey]

what frames you get

[arctic jungle]

?

@smoky jay holy crap

2000 is too much

oh wait

[analog hearth]

That’s a lot just for peripherals

[arctic jungle]

including monitor? it's still too much

@smoky jay what specs do ur PC have

[analog hearth]

Just got with a super ultra wide lol

[arctic jungle]

4k 144hz may be something u wanna consider, or maybe oddyssey g9 👀

i'll put a bunch of links here

btw these are all my OPINIONS for the periphs- for example, it's a better idea to have digital sound and I like razer products, etc. etc.

[smoky jay]

I'm gonna upgrade my PC too, but I'm really only looking to upgrade my CPU and ram

I'm fine with my 2080

[analog hearth]

Don’t go 4K 144Hz

1440p 144Hz is more feasible with that card

[smoky jay]

about 3-4 hundred dollars is going into a new desk

[arctic jungle]

lol i was gonna say get oddysey g9

which u can

OP monitor

crazy awesome

[smoky jay]

Yeah

[arctic jungle]

hol on

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/razer-blackwidow-v3-pro-wireless-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-black/6425357.p?skuId=6425357&ref=212&loc=1&extStoreId=1506

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1578217-REG/samsung_lc49g97tssnxdc_49_monitor_hdr_color.html?ap=y&smp=y

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/razer-nari-ultimate-wireless-thx-spatial-audio-gaming-headset-for-pc-and-playstation-4-gunmetal/6298660.p?skuId=6298660

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/razer-basilisk-ultimate-wireless-optical-gaming-mouse-with-hyperspeed-technology-and-charging-dock-black/6384937.p?skuId=6384937

@smoky jay

mouse keyboard headset and monitor

@smoky jay

[smoky jay]

I have a razer headset so no worries there

[deep skiff]

that keyboard is hella overpriced and a bad buy in general

[arctic jungle]

@deep skiff but it's rgb and wireless

and in the budget

[deep skiff]

unless you need a fullsized and wireless you could get a way better keyboard for the price

[arctic jungle]

ehhhh

that's true

but razer synapse is the best rgb software

and the basilisk ultimate is the best mouse

so naturally

you have to

[vital sail]

I built my own new PC, but every once in a while I hear a loud and deep vibration sound/noise from the PC. It only lasts one second and then goes away. Any ideas of what this could be?

[stoic island]

It's possible that vibration sounds can come from your hard drives, but they shouldn't really be loud.

[little osprey]

1440p 165hz for 3080? And just a basic 1080p 60hz for 2nr monitor

[granite imp]

@tawdry mica where does the psu go in a build like that? Is there a large side panel behind the mobo? 🤔

I built my own new PC, but every once in a while I hear a loud and deep vibration sound/noise from the PC. It only lasts one second and then goes away. Any ideas of what this could be?
@vital sail my first thought would be a fan going bad

Normal atx power supply?

[upbeat lodge]

Sent me money or I will 😘 you

[balmy patio]

bro thats kinda sus

[upbeat lodge]

Yeah that’s right

Kiss 💋

[still roost]

pipboy#6656 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[balmy patio]

i wont send you money then 😳

[upbeat lodge]

It’s a joke dumb ass

[balmy patio]

well no sh it

[upbeat lodge]

I don’t want your money

Buttttt

PayPal

Is always nice

[little osprey]

No money he will 😘 you for free

[upbeat lodge]

😂

Your right

No money he will 😘 you for free
@little osprey

I will

Right on the spot

[still roost]

Jαy#8044 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[polar python]

which is better?

idk if i asked already..

[little osprey]

What do y'all recommend for a video card?

[balmy patio]

for what

[polar python]

budget?

[balmy patio]

if its 200-300 dollars i would go with a 1660s i think

let us wait for more responses

[foggy hazel]

@upbeat lodge keep "jokes" like that to #general-chat

[upbeat lodge]

Yeah I know

[foggy hazel]

@little osprey if you dont post a budget, we cannot answer

@polar python let me have a look

[polar python]

alright

thanks

[upbeat lodge]

@little osprey

[little osprey]

My budget for a video card is $400

Sorry

Went afk lmao

[mighty grove]

can someone look at my build?

[upbeat lodge]

OOmay

Okay

[stark steppe]

what are the basic coponets of building a pc

[polar python]

My budget for a video card is $400
@little osprey usd?

[upbeat lodge]

One sec

[foggy hazel]

@mighty grove if you post it, yes.

[stark steppe]

i needa moderate gaming one

[mighty grove]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KdQ3Cz

[polar python]

if u can save 100 more geta 3070

[mighty grove]

i already have my storage

[upbeat lodge]

Maybe a 2060

[mighty grove]

its a budget

[upbeat lodge]

Rtx

[foggy hazel]

please change the PSU to something else @mighty grove

[little osprey]

Yes usd

[mighty grove]

PSu?

whats that

[foggy hazel]

powersupply.

[little osprey]

Power supply

[mighty grove]

okay umm

to waht

[little osprey]

It's not smart to buy Smart

Lol

[upbeat lodge]

EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB KO GAMING Video Card

[mighty grove]

i need it to be les than 40

[upbeat lodge]

@little osprey

[little osprey]

Thanks @upbeat lodge

[upbeat lodge]

Np

[foggy hazel]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Rdybvf <- there you go @mighty grove

[mighty grove]

alr that will do

[foggy hazel]

@mighty grove your current PSU is NOT below 40

[mighty grove]

it was 33?

[foggy hazel]

and the PSU is a VERY VERY bad place to save money

[mighty grove]

okay thank you

[umbral needle]

Strick

[upbeat lodge]

@foggy hazel is this good https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z2zBmk

[umbral needle]

👍

[mighty grove]

is everything else check out?

[foggy hazel]

aye, not fast. but yes. its a machine that will work @mighty grove

[mighty grove]

i just want to play rocket league at comp settings lmao

[stoic island]

this is my 540$ list submission, you can take a look.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TrgVnL

used to be 520$, but BR pricing went up

[foggy hazel]

just be aware @mighty grove , it is going to look ... REAL funny with that mainboard in that case

[mighty grove]

idrc about looks im just looking for something i can play with to do tourneys

[polar python]

is the z490a a viable option over the msi mpg gaming edge wifi

[stark steppe]

i am looking for a moderate gaming pc

[polar python]

im looking to overclock

a bit

[mighty grove]

my current pc cant even run rocket league unless its 740x480

[stark steppe]

can anyone read my messages

[stoic island]

z490-a is fine

@stark steppe gib more context

what price

what needs

[foggy hazel]

@stark steppe have patience.

[stark steppe]

around 700-1100dollars

[foggy hazel]

@upbeat lodge your list is overspecced in weird places. What is it going to be used for?

[stark steppe]

it will just be more coding game

s

[stoic island]

@foggy hazel it's for slapping in 3080 when stock gets fine

PSU was slightly placeholder, I think GM 750w or whatever went out of stock so I slapped in rmx

[foggy hazel]

ah, so yet another: "i cannot wait, so i need validation 10 times" list?

[mighty grove]

waht is the difference between i3-9400f and a i5-9500f

i mean if-9400F*

[stoic island]

hey, this time it's "another person validation" at least

"i3" "i5" "i7" can go into the trash

[mighty grove]

0-0

thabks for the herlp

[foggy hazel]

still a waste of time, especially when no context is given by @upbeat lodge

[mighty grove]

help

[upbeat lodge]

Wdym @foggy hazel

[mighty grove]

wait if i wanna record should i get a ryzen or intel

[stoic island]

doesn't matter

Nvidia GPU

shadowplay is good :)

[mighty grove]

got itt

[foggy hazel]

its your list @upbeat lodge, its your responsibility to tell people what the purpose/context of your list is.

[upbeat lodge]

Oh YouTube and streaming

[foggy hazel]

you are missing the point.

[upbeat lodge]

And playing games

Wdym

[foggy hazel]

trust in what @stoic island made for you.

dont ask others here for "is this okay"

[stoic island]

heh I'm human too, I make mistakes

[upbeat lodge]

Well I’m dumb with computers

@stoic island made that build for me

[foggy hazel]

yes, i know that "now".

[upbeat lodge]

Wow

[mighty grove]

wait so should i go with i3-9400f or i3-9400f

[foggy hazel]

which would have saved me a bunch of thinking.

[upbeat lodge]

Oh sorry

[foggy hazel]

its like going from shop to shop and asking them if their water is also wet.

[upbeat lodge]

Lol

[little osprey]

Strick
@umbral needle hello milk

[foggy hazel]

@upbeat lodge consider this. Neither @stoic island or myself, or anyone else that volunteers here has unlimited time.

so the one thing that has any value is our time.

[upbeat lodge]

Okay

[umbral needle]

@little osprey hey stricky

[upbeat lodge]

Sorry

[foggy hazel]

@mighty grove those are identical procssors

@upbeat lodge now you know :)

[indigo cargo]

does anyone know any good rgb/fan hubs that work for Aura Sync? The only one I know works is the ROG Terminal but its apparently non-existent anymore

[mighty grove]

@foggy hazel so theres no diffrence

then why is one way less than the other

[foggy hazel]

look at what you typed

[little osprey]

Næd especially grumpy today 👀

[mighty grove]

uh im confused

[foggy hazel]

i3-9400f or i3-9400f <- see those?

[still roost]

waidy#8631 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[mighty grove]

oops

um

i mean i3 and i5

[foggy hazel]

there is NO i3-9400F

[mighty grove]

wait what

aadawdajwbdawod

i mean 9100f

[little osprey]

smh

[mighty grove]

im so bad at this stuff

i jus game

[little osprey]

...

[foggy hazel]

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=190886,190883

that is the differences between them

the 9400f will be 10-50% faster.

[mighty grove]

so i should get a 9400f if

[stoic island]

Taking a look at this, does the desktop 9400f also 2.9ghz base clock..?
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i3-9100F-vs-Intel-i5-9400F/3461vs3397

oh wait yea

hm

@foggy hazel do you by any chance know if passmark does benches at base clock or boost clock?

[gritty zenith]

was someone trynna skimp on the psu?

[foggy hazel]

should be boost. it should not have any say in what the CPU does in that regard @stoic island

but not something i have ever thought about :)

[stoic island]

Yea I was just looking at single core perf

and 9400f had a slightly lower score

so first thing I thought was "hmm 9400f only 2.9ghz base clock, maybe that's the reason"

[gritty zenith]

when do programs only use one core tho

[stoic island]

java

[foggy hazel]

just about everything has a "main thread" @gritty zenith

[stoic island]

And also, the score itself tells us a lot more about the chip too.

[gritty zenith]

i know, but i would think that no matter the single core score, multithreaded applications of any degree would strain it more than just a single core score x2 or x4 or etc

if you know what i mean

[foggy hazel]

elaborate (because i dont know your "style" of thinking well enough to know if you have a serious misunderstanding or not)

[gritty zenith]

oi im not that dumb

i mean like if a cpu gets a certain single core score, i'd think that that specific score only pertains to tasks which utilize only core, but for tasks which utilize more than one i'd think that the performance per core would be different

[foggy hazel]

okay, you are potentially moving into thermally throttled scenarios with that

[stoic island]

That only really applies to laptops where a single core could boost significantly higher than the other cores due to limitations.

[foggy hazel]

no @stoic island

[gritty zenith]

so regardless of whether an application uses only one core or multiple they will generally run at their rated single core speed throughout the different cores? (yes i do know that some cores might run faster than others)

[foggy hazel]

it applies to every CPU

[stoic island]

I mean in normal circumstances

[foggy hazel]

and yes @gritty zenith

[stoic island]

You're not going to have a core on 3700x boost to 5ghz, then all core 4ghz is the kind of thing I'm saying

[gritty zenith]

oh okay

[foggy hazel]

that is correct @stoic island

[stoic island]

I'm not saying single core can't boost a bit higher, but it's usually not much higher unless very thermally constraint

[foggy hazel]

correct

[stoic island]

I gotta learn how to speak :p

[gritty zenith]

o

alright yeah so what i was thinking was a thermally constrained scenario then

[little osprey]

About to leave to pick up my desktop

[polar python]

will the coolermaster nr600 fit a 360mm aio

[little osprey]

Check the manufacturers website

Also depends on top or front mount

[polar python]

thanks

360mm is compatible

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kY7Yrr

this is the build i think im going with

[little leaf]

bad

build

[polar python]

are u srs

[little leaf]

yes\

Can easily fit in a 3080

[polar python]

umm

how

much

is a 3080

[little leaf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CqsJ7X

30% more gaming perf

[polar python]

i was planning to oc 10600k to like 5.0 ghz

[gritty zenith]

wow

[polar python]

wha

[gritty zenith]

imagine bottlenecking your build with a corsair case

smh

[polar python]

thats the one he put together

not me lol

tbh i dont even want rgb

[gritty zenith]

no rgb unless chroma

[stoic island]

corsair cases can be fine

like 4000d airflow is great

275r airflow is good

220t airflow is good

[gritty zenith]

yo

it was just a joke lmoa

[balmy patio]

bruh wdym @polar python rgb gives you lower ping, more fps, higher clock speeds, less temps, and noob players in game, im shaking my head

[gritty zenith]

huge fax

you need to have your room covered in chroma products

voice controlled rgb too

[stoic island]

TBH for most people RGB would actually give you lower fps

[gritty zenith]

best performance

[stoic island]

RGB software are trash

[gritty zenith]

lmaoo

[balmy patio]

nah for best performance jus have a chip inplanted in your head that controls the rgb

[stoic island]

and bloatware are trash too, GN did a bloatware test before, way lower 1% lows and 0.1% lows, and frametime spikes not present within the original system

[gritty zenith]

oi

only performance dips i get are highs

high pings of up to 8,000ms spikes

[balmy patio]

the only performance dips i get is when i talk to women 😔

real struggles

[gritty zenith]

big oof

talk to men then

op

[polar python]

lol

[stoic island]

@gritty zenith I'm not talking about ping spikes

I'm talking frametime spikes

when it takes 100ms to send 1 frame

now that's a noticeable spike

[fleet pagoda]

Ryzen 7 2700x vs 5 3600x

Whats better

[stoic island]

@fleet pagoda better for doing what

[fleet pagoda]

Gaming

[stoic island]

3600 easy

[fleet pagoda]

Ok now whats the dif between 3600x and 3600

[stoic island]

3600x is just fancy with like a 200mhz higher core clock

[fleet pagoda]

Is it worth getting over the normal one

Its not much more

[stoic island]

usually it's not worth it

but recently it's just like 5$ more so it's your choice

[fleet pagoda]

Ok thx

[foggy hazel]

sidenote: you ever see any of these @stoic island

https://www.pcbitz.com/content/images/products/27369/main/Shuttle SH67H3 BP 2.JPG

[stoic island]

what the hell

[foggy hazel]

Shuttle <- Brand name

[stoic island]

that looks like someone took a hammer to the socket

[foggy hazel]

its normal for them

[stoic island]

and then took a hammer to the chipset(?) heatsink

[foggy hazel]

notice the format

[stoic island]

itx..?

[foggy hazel]

custom

[stoic island]

whoa

looked it up

http://global.shuttle.com/news/productsDetail?productId=1477

[foggy hazel]

aye

blame that dive into history on the NAS question :)

[stoic island]

lol
Was that NAS THAT old? Newegg product page said 2007 so I was like it's a decade old, shouldn't be too bad.

[foggy hazel]

https://shuttle-japan.jp/sh310r4v2/

[stoic island]

lga1151

[foggy hazel]

as you can see from some of the pictures, their boards are STILL very weird

[stoic island]

they're still going eh

[foggy hazel]

aye aye

[stoic island]

I mean it makes sense if they're doing custom for their own home entertainment systems

[foggy hazel]

do note, they did SFF systems back when everyone else ran around with Chenbro fridge sized cases

[stoic island]

fun

[foggy hazel]

its a interesting piece of history imo

useless? yes.

interesting? also yes

[stoic island]

by the way, quick question on audio, with a headset like the PC37x, if I wanted to plug the headphone 3.5mm plug into a dual-use (input and output like on phones) 3.5mm port, and not plug in the mic, would it work?

[foggy hazel]

aye

dont see why it wouldnt

[stoic island]

@foggy hazel with that part, I'm curious about how power is delievered with headsets and headphones

because I thought it would be through the 3.5mm plug, so maybe only 1/2 plug would not power it enough?

[foggy hazel]

it could be designed like that, but that would just make it "messy" internally

[stoic island]

so, likely not true?

[foggy hazel]

so power comes over the headphones alone for the headphones

it might pull some power for the mic on the other, but doubt it

i cannot at the top of my head remember what the spec can do in that regard

[stoic island]

fair nuff

[little osprey]

Hey guys

Is this ram good for a desktop? I know its not the best speed but im trying to make an old office PC last a few more years

well, shoot

I cannot send the link

2x 8GB 4GB Lot Memory Ram 4 Dell PowerEdge T310 upgrade Server DDR3 SDRAM its from ebay

So desktop will be ready tomorrow, but from what I saw today, it looks CLEAN AF

[gritty zenith]

@little osprey what country would you be getting it shipped to

[little osprey]

Malta

From amazon de

[gritty zenith]

dont know what the shipping cost would be then, like for me it is 11.72 + 20.85 usd

so like $30+ total usd

and are you upgrading a server?

or desktop

[little osprey]

i have 2 dollars shipping

it used to be a server PC

im going to convert it to a work desktop

[gritty zenith]

o

u might want to look for better ram

[little osprey]

im going to wipe it, install windows 10 as its on windows 7

If it's a desktop, I recommend ddr4 ram

and use it for web browsing and basic tasks

its a ddr3 motherboard

and im only changing the ram and adding a gpu

[gritty zenith]

8gb 1333mhz not good

[little osprey]

im patient with speeds

Ahh

i used to work off a 5400 RPM hard drive with and i3 2nd gen

This will be a computer whose specs pre-date my birth 😂😂

😂

[gritty zenith]

if you want

[stoic island]

lol

[gritty zenith]

hold up lemme dm

[little osprey]

@stoic island I found out what the issue with my mobo was

I accidentally manually set one of my ram timings instead of it being set to auto.

[stoic island]

Really?

Didn't you reset cmos already?

We prob should've told you to reset cmos more >:P

[gritty zenith]

just run without cmos battery ez fix

[stoic island]

@gritty zenith you know how reset cmos works right :p

[gritty zenith]

lol yeah

i mean i know the procedure but i don't know the science behind it if that's what you mean

[stoic island]

It works because you drain all the power from the system

So the memory resets itself

[gritty zenith]

O

its that simple

lol

makes sense

[stoic island]

Mhm

[gritty zenith]

surprising to think that small battery gives just enough power to keep memory in tact

[stoic island]

Not ram memory mind you

I mean like the little flash memory chip on the board

That stores the settings

[gritty zenith]

ik

[stoic island]

I don't think it's that hard to power that lil chip

[gritty zenith]

i mean yeah

i remember looking at something though for replacing save battery on like a gameboy cartridge, modding it with a non-volatile fram chip thought it was pretty cool, but $20 was really expensive back when i was like 13 lol

[eager hazel]

I don’t know if I should get a asrock b450 steel legend or a b450 pro 4

[gritty zenith]

hmm

legend > pro

?

idk i would think a legend is superior to a pro

[little osprey]

@stoic island I did try clearing cmos

[gritty zenith]

return parts rebuy them and rebuild

[little osprey]

Nah

Plus past the 30 days return period

[gritty zenith]

imagine

y did you wait so long to have problems then?

[eager flower]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Th6Mv

This good? The only notes I have is the CPU will be a R5 5600X and the GPU will be a 3070

[little leaf]

2don't buy windows for 100

ram over priced

aio not needed

ssd overpriced

[eager flower]

ofc not, I just havent done research on where to get it for cheaper

AIO I want, im buying on blackfriday /cyber monday

[olive kraken]

Hey guys I got a quick question.

My fren has a prebuilt and wants to upgrade his RAM but doesn't know if the motherboard can handle it

Its a Digital storm* prebuilt I have no idea about their motherboards

[eager flower]

Unless you send us the exaact PC we won't know

[olive kraken]

he has no idea, is there like a way to download something that will tell him what motherboard he is running?

[polar python]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nFLkTJ

im going with the 10600k @stoic island

[little leaf]

@polar python I made you a list

your list is significantly worse

@stoic island could you tell him for gaming having a 3080 +3600/3700x is better than a 10600k and 3070

[polar python]

pls enlighten me

[little leaf]

for gaming the gpu matters much more than the cpu

[polar python]

why dont u explain

@little leaf

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ok

[little leaf]

Many people spend too much on the cpu and not enough on the gpu

[polar python]

does the 3700x have good oc potential

[little leaf]

No

No ryzen chip really does unless you get a 3600xt but they aren't worth it

[polar python]

alright

i was gonna get the 3700x b4

i feel like with anything i buy im gonna have buyers remorse

[little osprey]

would this PSU work with a 3070? I’m only running a 6 core cpu

[little leaf]

probably not what brand is that?

[little osprey]

i have no idea my pc is a prebuilt

[polar python]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p2m8K3

[little leaf]

@little osprey no then

[elfin burrow]

sticker says SolyTech

[polar python]

can u send me the list u made earlier

[little leaf]

its a bad quality psu trying to put out its max wattage

[little osprey]

alright

[little leaf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CqsJ7X

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R2mxFT/corsair-power-supply-cp9020103na

how about this one

would that work with a 3070?

[little leaf]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gWbwrH/seasonic-focus-gold-750w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-750fm

seasonic is better

[little osprey]

what wifi adapters and sound cards do yall recommend?

[bronze hare]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dBd6Xb Is this good? I've never made a pc before

[stoic island]

Whew 3 pings

Yes

[cloud oasis]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hbHNNP @bronze hare

get better monitor and keeb

Ifu can

[stoic island]

@bronze hare uh I don't like that list

@cloud oasis and why...

Cheap out on everything then grab a gpw...?

[cloud oasis]

he wanted it

he put it on his list lol

[stoic island]

Wtf

No

Don't do that

[cloud oasis]

Ok

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WLm8K3

[pallid summit]

@eager flower I would skip buying a windows 10 key. I recommend buying a windows 7 key for cheap and using that as your windows 10 key. for some reason they are still allowing free upgrades.

you'd save yourself about $90

[velvet agate]

Yo I'm doing my first build and I'm wondering how this looks

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Kbeequilt/saved/#view=64Lnt6

[spiral zealot]

You can get a win10 key on ebay for 5-10 bucks, just buy from a seller with high positive reviews

[little osprey]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R2mxFT/corsair-power-supply-cp9020103na

would this psu work with a 3070

[spiral zealot]

The win 7 to 10 upgrade doesnt always work these days

[glossy musk]

well guys i’m back with more problems

[gleaming hawk]

@little osprey depends on your other specs

[glossy musk]

my monitor keeps blinking on and off when I play games and watch videos

there’s an example

I think it has something to do with my gpu

[little osprey]

@gleaming hawk like what?

my cpu is an i5-8400

[gleaming hawk]

cpu, mobo, fans,

ok

idrk i’m only familiar with AMD cpus sorry

[little osprey]

alright

[small osprey]

@glossy musk it might be ur monitor panel overheating

[glossy musk]

@small osprey overheating was my initial though but it does after only like 5 minutes of use

[small osprey]

Wow umm idk then maybe a bad connection

Or maybe ur monitor is broken or something

[glossy musk]

yeah I might just need a new monitor

it is pretty old

[small osprey]

Try with a different monitor and see if the same problem occurs

Mm probably why then

[glossy musk]

I have an old 19 inch tv that I don’t have problems with

[small osprey]

Mm its ur monitor then

Need suggestions?

[glossy musk]

i’m guessing it’s because I’m running a hdmi to vga cable because my monitor only supports vga

uhh if you know any good ones for like $150

I don’t need anything too crazy

[small osprey]

Specific res or refresh?

[glossy musk]

at least 1080p and 75hz or more preferably

[small osprey]

Ah there is an lg one idk what its called

For 100

[glossy musk]

how big is the screen?

[small osprey]

Its 24” 1080p and 75hz

75hz

[glossy musk]

that’s about what I would want

[small osprey]

Idk the exact model

Lemme search it up

https://pcpartpicker.com

Sry not that lol

The lg 24MK400H-B

Search that up

[glossy musk]

thanks i’ll check it out

[small osprey]

Np

[stoic island]

Horrible :p