#building-and-recc-chat

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foggy hazel
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aye, its easy to overlook, so dont feel bad about it @frosty ginkgo :)

frosty ginkgo
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One more question. I see the list of supported RAM goes up to 16 GB does that mean my board and take that much?

foggy hazel
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i would read that as the TOTAL amount is 16

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meaning, 2 sticks of 8

void creek
ripe wedge
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thats wayyyy over priced

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that should be a $1000 system ish

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its only marked up higher cuz 10th gen cpu

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actually maybe a $1200 system

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cuz 32gb

void creek
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Do you have any recommendations? I was interested in this one because costco has it for 1250

ripe wedge
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ah so you can get it for 1250 at costco?

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thats not as bad then

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but for creators id recommend using an amd cpu

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ill see if I can find any good ones within the 1200 range

void creek
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Yes. But I'm not sure if its the right computer for design. I'm looking for some tech guidance.

ripe wedge
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do you care if it looks gamery?

void creek
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Nope. As long as it gets the job done

foggy hazel
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@void creek to give you a comparison point

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that is "equal" is to the build you linked

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(add 70-ish usd for the psu i forgot)

ripe wedge
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so basically the oem makes like $90

foggy hazel
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aye

ripe wedge
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but not actually cuz they buy bulk

foggy hazel
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well, their parts a slightly cheaper still

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@void creek which programs will you be using?

ripe wedge
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for creators id recommend something like this

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there is also one with a 2070 super but its $150 more ish

void creek
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Adobe creative suite- premiere, after effects, illustrator, audition etc.

ripe wedge
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but amd is releasing new processors soon so it may be a good idea to wait until those drop and the new processors can be put into prebuilt computers

little leaf
foggy hazel
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@little leaf what price for the mainboard?

little leaf
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board is free, but b2 ram is burt out

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sorry b1

ripe wedge
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burnt out?

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how lol

little leaf
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person put in ram backwards

ripe wedge
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šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

little leaf
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burnt stick and slot

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but 2 and 4 is still ok

ripe wedge
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how

foggy hazel
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how?

ripe wedge
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it cant even go in backwards

little leaf
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ik

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it didn't go in

ripe wedge
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did they hammer it in?

little leaf
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and he turned it on

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like half of it was in

foggy hazel
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ah, so "contact to pins" and then he added power

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hm, fair enough

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that does burn a slot

ripe wedge
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thats an F

little leaf
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its fine I don't need more than 16

foggy hazel
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keep in mind @little leaf the board itself might be REALLY wonky

little leaf
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I've been using it

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seems to work fine

foggy hazel
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fair enough :)

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its a solid enough build for what it is

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@void creek give me a couple of minutes here

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have a look here

void creek
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Ok ill look now

foggy hazel
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the 10700k is "close enough" to what you had in yours

ripe wedge
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the 10700F is just not overclockable and doesnt have integrated graphics

foggy hazel
void creek
little leaf
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naed how do I erase a cyber power bios from board

foggy hazel
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you mean reset it?

ripe wedge
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@void creek no they used 64gb

little leaf
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Trying to get to default bios from cyber power bios

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since somethings are locked

void creek
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Lol whoops

foggy hazel
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refer to their manual @little leaf

little leaf
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don't have it lol

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I got the pc for 100

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thats where I got the free board cooler and cpu

foggy hazel
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check their site @little leaf

ripe wedge
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@little leaf still think thats an insane deal

upbeat lodge
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I’m thinking off building a pc and don’t know what graphics card to get

ripe wedge
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you probably wont need to demanding of graphics

foggy hazel
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i have never had my hands on a cyber power machine (they are not exactly something you see outside of the US)

upbeat lodge
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I want to get a rtx

little leaf
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They don't say pretty sure it voids their warranty or something

foggy hazel
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@void creek before you ask, yes, their numbers are trustworthy enough

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they take that testing of theirs very seriously

hard atlas
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Hi.. If someone can help me about how can i build a pc dm me please

little leaf
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just ask here

upbeat lodge
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Okay I’m on a budget for like 1300 to build do I need to up my budget for a good pc

little osprey
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Never come to Iranā›”

tight fulcrum
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My gaming pc gtx 650ti i3 3240 12ram 1tb hhd no ssd mainbord p8875-v
@little osprey donate this player for get better pc, he live on the hell but must play with good PC

fluid fable
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Does the power supply go fan side up or down?

stoic island
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Fan should grab fresh air from the bottom of the case whenever possible

ripe wedge
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^

fluid fable
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Thank you!

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These cables are giving me hell.

ripe wedge
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cable management is hard VLELOCIPY

fluid fable
cloud oasis
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Are psu fans supposed to be intake or exhaust

little osprey
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So I'm planning to loan my pc to a close friend while I'm at basic/school for Navy. However I will be replacing the motherboard from a b450 to a b550 as the ram slots are becoming faulty. Will there be any software issues that I may encounter?

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Basic/school will be 2-3 years so I'm getting a b550 in case he wishes to upgrade cpu in that time

clever oyster
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It shouldn’t be a problem unless your RGB softwares don’t sync up

little osprey
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Well I'm running asus rog strix rgb software

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So...

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Which is what I'm planning on getting

clever oyster
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Ok then it should all work

tribal turtle
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So I’m thinking about building a custom built pc and what is the best parts I could get for under 1K in total

young bluff
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does this include peripherals?

prisma stag
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@young bluff use layman terms

young bluff
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why

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jkjk ok

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@tribal turtle does this 1k include the budget for keyboard monitor headphone n mouse?

tribal turtle
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No just looking for a pc

young bluff
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do u have a 144hz or higher refresh rate monitor?

tribal turtle
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Don’t have then best monitor

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Idek what the hertz is actually šŸ˜‚

young bluff
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bruh

prisma stag
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prolly 60 then

little osprey
sharp bear
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when is the good time to get rtx 2070 super ?

cloud oasis
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Get 3070

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same price

coarse coral
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Can I use this
@little osprey thats a really old hard drive that uses ide cables, not sata.

prisma stag
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@cloud oasis Cntrl don't be recommending stuff

cloud oasis
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lol u play league

stoic island
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@prisma stag can you explain why the hell they shouldn't express their opinion?

prisma stag
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Just cntrl of all people recommending stuff might not be best for someone that doesnt know what they should buy

stoic island
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Still not giving me a reason why they can't express their opinion

quiet cloak
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@foggy hazel can you help me out with something real quick? I’m building a pc and Idk if when I’m done I can put it on this table cause it’s metal and some people are saying no and some are saying yes and my case has metal legs?

cloud oasis
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@stoic island let him still doesnt change the fact he plays lol

vital warren
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well waiting for a 3070 over a 2070s is a good suggestion so good job cntrl

foggy hazel
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IF its just a normal case, and not some random custom case that is wired in some frankenstein way, then there is no problem @quiet cloak

quiet cloak
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@foggy hazel it is the Lian Li Lancool 2

foggy hazel
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nothing prevents you from placing that on the table

stoic island
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Static electricity wouldn't do anything?

mellow basalt
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Naed????

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It’s good seeing ya again man how’s it going?

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And sup Mr1111 and Rogue

foggy hazel
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@stoic island you are over thinking it.

stoic island
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Hey there

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Would standoffs act as a barrier..?

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Yea I'm probably overthinking it

foggy hazel
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there is no need to act as a barrier as such

quiet cloak
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@foggy hazel wait what are standoffs?

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Did they come in my box or something?

foggy hazel
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if what you are worrying about was something to actually worry about. @quiet cloak would already have Einstein hair @stoic island

quiet cloak
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I didn’t build it yet?

foggy hazel
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you case has feet and the mainboard itself is ON standoffs

quiet cloak
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Motherboard you mean?

stoic island
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Got it

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Mainboard = motherboard

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It's another way of saying it

quiet cloak
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Gotcha

foggy hazel
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motherboard/mainboard/mobo/thingy-with-extra-thingys

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all the same

quiet cloak
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I like the last one better

stoic island
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What's the need for anti static mats then?

quiet cloak
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Building I’m guessing?

foggy hazel
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that is when building

stoic island
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I always thought it was to stop static buildup from the table or something

quiet cloak
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Me too @stoic island Me too

foggy hazel
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its from you shuffling your feet around @stoic island

quiet cloak
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I already got a anti static wrist strap I need a mat though since it’s all metal

stoic island
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So it doesn't stay around from usual movements?

quiet cloak
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Well the middle part is wood but the legs and everything that connects it is metal

foggy hazel
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you dont "need" a mat.

quiet cloak
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Since it’s a L shaped desk

foggy hazel
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build on the mainboard box

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that is where most technicians build

quiet cloak
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ā€œThingy with extra thingysā€

stoic island
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Welp, that's good to know.

quiet cloak
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I can build on the thingy with extra thingys box?

foggy hazel
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aye

stoic island
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Yes

quiet cloak
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What about the fan thingys?

stoic island
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Build basically everything out of case then put it in near the end

quiet cloak
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I thought I had to put the fan thingy in last though?

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Umm I forgot the name

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The graphics card yes that’s the name

foggy hazel
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build outside the case, test boot it outside the case

mellow basalt
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Usually people do put the graphics card in last

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Well not last put do everything on the motherboard then put it in the case

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Then put the graphics card thingy in

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@quiet cloak you got a lot of people in here that’ll help you build it most people in here are very good at this so you can ask anyone and you already got 2 good people helping you out rn and naed doesn’t mind getting pinged

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He told me that a while ago

quiet cloak
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So I can dm him?

mellow basalt
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Umm that’s up to him to decide I said ping not dm lol

quiet cloak
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K thank you very much @foggy hazel and @mellow basalt and @stoic island

foggy hazel
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sending me a dm will not do you any good @quiet cloak, because i am on my way to bed

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but pings i will respond to sooner or later

quiet cloak
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@foggy hazel not rn lol I meant In the future or when I’m building this tomorrow lmao

foggy hazel
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Do yourself a favour, download the manual for the mainboard, read that and follow that

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that will get you most of the way there

quiet cloak
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I have it right here

foggy hazel
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and dont rush

quiet cloak
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Ik where my ram goes and a lot of other stuff from the manual and Linus tech tips and bitwit and jayztwocents

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I won’t don’t worry 😁

foggy hazel
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well, i cannot stop you from worrying.

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but i can tell you it is overrated :)

quiet cloak
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I have the exact same build/parts as @mellow basalt as well so I can also ask him šŸ˜…

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Yea imagine worrying lol @foggy hazel

foggy hazel
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:)

mellow basalt
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Wait how do you know we have the same parts @quiet cloak?

cloud oasis
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Should i get 32gb of ram or 16gb

quiet cloak
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@mellow basalt umm I forgot which discord server it was but someone asked for your parts/build and I saw it and someone told me all of it was pretty good so I just got it unfortunately I got the same case cause I had no choice šŸ˜’

mellow basalt
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What the why did it send multiple?

hoary kayak
mellow basalt
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Good luck with cable management I gtg I’m playing some destiny 2 so cya naed and Mr1111 and Rogue

clever oyster
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@hoary kayak nope that consoles will storm it by many miles

little leaf
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Theres mo list

hoary kayak
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Dann so should I just buy the next gen console

little leaf
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You pasted the wrong link

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@hoary kayak

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Paste the shareable link

stoic island
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@hoary kayak paste the shareable link

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@clever oyster you saw your own list

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Just look at the link closer

hoary kayak
little leaf
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Still the wrong one

hoary kayak
little leaf
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We dont know

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But that list can be better

clever oyster
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Oops I saw the wrong list

foggy hazel
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@hoary kayak no, that list is a LOT below the next gen consoles

hoary kayak
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Ight then ima just buy the next gen consoles

foggy hazel
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not a bad idea :)

mellow basalt
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@foggy hazel so I got 3 fans that came with the case that isn’t rgb, should I get more fans

foggy hazel
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your choice.

mellow basalt
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I’m just wondering if I need more airflow

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Or anything

little osprey
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what case and parts

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if the parts are higher end then in most cases yes

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but it really depends on specs

vital warren
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what's the fan setup

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all 3 intake?

mellow basalt
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The case is Lian li lancool 2

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Ryzen 5 3600. B450 tomahawk max, 650 GT supernova psu, 2060 super trident z ram and crucial p1 1tb ssd

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@little osprey

stark tangle
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@tepid dew what's ur twitch?

tepid dew
stark tangle
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Bet ill give ya a follow

little osprey
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Ryzen 5 3600. B450 tomahawk max, 650 GT supernova psu, 2060 super trident z ram and crucial p1 1tb ssd
@mellow basalt u dont need more fans it should be fine

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but what is the fan setup

tidal vault
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Swapped my motherboard, but the new one isn’t reading any bootable devices with everything plugged back in. What can I do to fix this

foggy hazel
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@tidal vault check the boot order

cloud oasis
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ok guys so im a bit nervous

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i feel like im gonna mess something up with my build

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dont have parts yet but finding where to put fan headers and stuff is waytoodank

night iron
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Be careful of MSI @glad flame nobody trust them right now cause of that scandal that is going around about what did wrong.

glad flame
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@night iron its working great so far! Time will tell

night iron
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Okay

fleet pagoda
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Since my pc has such old hardware if i bought a new processor and graphics card could smthn bad happen

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Like could i fry my motherboard or some thing

odd copper
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For swapping GPU's would I just need to download DDU and hit "Clean and Shutdown" and then swap in my new GPU and download the drivers when I restart it?

foggy hazel
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@odd copper basically yes

odd copper
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Dope. Thanks

foggy hazel
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you are very welcome

final breach
little leaf
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No

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Thatd list is bad

vital warren
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too much on mobo, ssd, etc

stoic island
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indeed

little leaf
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Change the mobo to pro vdh wifi b550

stoic island
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@final breach what do you already own?

final breach
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The desk and chair

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lmao

little leaf
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Change the ssd to mp34

stoic island
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everything else can be edited?

final breach
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@vital warren Im getting most of my stuff from micro center. and im not buying the gpu yet

stoic island
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because oh boy I'd like to change some things :)

final breach
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yea

stoic island
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first things first, just no to 75hz monitor

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just

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no

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the rest I'll edit the list

final breach
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I just need something to start off with while I save up a bit more

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unless I just start with a 60

stoic island
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what about starting off with 144hz

final breach
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Not really in the budget atm

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sadly

vital warren
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it is

little leaf
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Yes it is

stoic island
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Looking at the list, it is actually in your budget

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I'll slap one in for ya actually

little leaf
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Very much so in your budgey

final breach
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k den

vital warren
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can save like a combined $100 on mobo/ssd lol and put that towards monitor

final breach
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im fine with a diff ssd

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mobo wasnt sure ab

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I could prob do a 450

little leaf
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Why

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Just do b550

final breach
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can save like a combined $100 on mobo/ssd lol and put that towards monitor
@vital warren

vital warren
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yes you put a very expensive b550

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the one they're suggesting is like 70 cheaper iirc

stoic island
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cheaper mobo, better ram, cheaper ssd, better GPU (2060 super is a sizable step up from 2060), better case, and 144hz monitor at the bottom

final breach
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rip the rgb

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lmao

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idrc

stoic island
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Performance over looks my guy

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and TD500 mesh has plenty of RGB in terms of the front argb fans

final breach
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dont yall know that rgb gives you more fps

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smh

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yall should know that

stoic island
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smh

final breach
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shame

little leaf
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Why not. A 5700xg

vital warren
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theres still 3rgb fans lol

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and rgb ram is $10 more if u rlly want it

final breach
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šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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doesnt matter too much

stoic island
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@little leaf tbh I'm too lazy

final breach
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Prob gonna throw some more fans on the top

stoic island
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no need

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@final breach stock config does just fine

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no need for extra fans to fill it up

still roostBOT
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Lorax#0069 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

final breach
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bruh

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My dad wants to pay full price for windows šŸ’€

stoic island
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tell him to buy it for you then >:D

final breach
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Mans scamming himself

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@stoic island Is there any actual benefit to an aio

stoic island
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yes

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bit of performance

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but depends on model

final breach
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i heard it was kinda minimal though

stoic island
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Good air cooler can beat a bad AIO

final breach
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eg a nzxt or corsair aio

stoic island
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overpriced

final breach
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agreed

stoic island
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Arctic freezer ii is the only AIO I approve

final breach
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but preformace wise

stoic island
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they are one of the best performing AIOs out there

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at a reasonable price

final breach
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Stock AMD cooler is aight tho?

ripe wedge
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how well is the Z73 vs the arctic freezer?

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the stock amd cooler is alright for ryzen 7 3700x at the max

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you will want a better cooler for like a ryzen 9

final breach
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So like how much more significant is hard cooling then a good aio

stoic island
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?

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hard cooling?

final breach
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custom cooling

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custom hard tube cooling

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yea

stoic island
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oh

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custom loop is all varible

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I'll go look again to see if I can find em

ripe wedge
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ah so the X73 looses by a few degrees

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thats pretty similar to the Z73

final breach
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yea

ripe wedge
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but the X73 has lower rpm

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so possible that by raising the fan rpm a bit it could reach the same perf

stoic island
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found it

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@ripe wedge it's noise normalised

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you know that right

ripe wedge
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cuz the artic cooler was 1100

stoic island
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the specific RPMs are there for a reason

ripe wedge
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o whats that mean

stoic island
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so they get all the different coolers to be at the same sound pressure level

ripe wedge
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ah

stoic island
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by setting specific fan speeds

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for more effective comparison

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they also have a 100% fair speed chart, with sound pressure listed if you want to see that

ripe wedge
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so 5 degrees difference

stoic island
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hell

ripe wedge
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thats pretty large

stoic island
final breach
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jk

stoic island
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build chat is multi-purpose :P

final breach
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true

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lol

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Might just have to try to cop the gpu on prime day, cyber monday, black friday. Or I might just havr to wait until after the new year for prices to drop.

stoic island
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anyways @ripe wedge this is why 100% fan speed testing doesn't tell you the best AIOs, just look at that noise pressure measurement on the left for clc360 compared to others lol

cloud oasis
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Actually op

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pogchamp

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glad i made decision to get that

stoic island
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I have reasons for recommending things, and nowadays I actually know 10% of what I'm talking about :P

cloud oasis
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but is liquid freezer best thing i can get for cooling

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well not the best but

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like one of the best

stoic island
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'best' non-crazy setup yea

cloud oasis
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ok

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ill oc fine with it too right

stoic island
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it's not gonna be able to compete with Ln2/liquid helium/dice/chilled ofc

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but yaknow

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yes

cloud oasis
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ok

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also did he use it as exhaust or intake

stoic island
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GN?

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they have an open-air bench

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so uh

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both?

still roostBOT
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Lorax#0069 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

final breach
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Bruh

stoic island
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bad words

final breach
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According to some external apexes I shouldn’t get an EVGA Psu

stoic island
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who

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use tier list

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C tier and above are good nuff, go for A/B tier when budget allows

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EVGA actually has some of the best PSUs too btw

final breach
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What’s the difference between and NVME and a normal m.2 ssd

stoic island
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NVME is a normal M.2 SSD :P

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imo, just don't grab SATA M.2 SSDs, they serve no purpose being M.2 @final breach

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NVMe has much higher speeds than SATA.

final breach
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K

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Kinda sus

ripe wedge
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@stoic island thank you for sending me about that stuff. very informative. I had to go do some stuff for a few minutes but im back now

final breach
stoic island
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bruhhh

ripe wedge
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antec is worse than evga lmao

final breach
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He doesn’t know what he’s talking ab

stoic island
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@final breach tell them that's only on G3

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You're welcome jake

viral ore
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i thought the G3 was one of the best tho

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or is that the supernova one

stoic island
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G3 is really good

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OCP OPP is a fairly major issue, theoretically.

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except that would only become an issue if you're pulling like 40% overload

final breach
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I trust y’all more than I trust him, he got most of his info from carter PCs server

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I’m also trusting a friend that actually working in IT

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Instead of whatever bs that was

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Lmao

stoic island
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@viral ore the issue is, the PSU won't shut itself off if you start pulling 900w from a 750w, and might burn itself, but you're not gonna be pulling that much overload unless you're crazy lol

final breach
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Yea

stoic island
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(the high-set OCP/OPP on G3)

ripe wedge
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I personally am only going for Corsair cuz I like their policies

stoic island
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Corsair has some pretty good PSUs too

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Seasonic too

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but as always

ripe wedge
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so like if a corsair psu kills ur components they will replace them

stoic island
final breach
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Corsair has some pretty good PSUs too
@stoic island cosair prebuilt tho

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Lol

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Those can run you a pretty penny

stoic island
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CX green label xD

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@final breach anyways point is, the specific reason I choose a BR 600w in your list is because it's cheap for 600w, and it works and without having major issues

cloud oasis
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Wait i should use as exhaust on top then

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right

stoic island
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?

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context

cloud oasis
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where i put arctic freezer

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top as exhaust

stoic island
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yea top exhaust works

cloud oasis
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whats the best

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cuz i might not oc

stoic island
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that's prob best spot

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top exhaust

cloud oasis
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yea i saw a video on it

ripe wedge
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u could do front but if u do u have to do tubes down

cloud oasis
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will temps be better if i put it outside of the case

ripe wedge
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probably but it would look ugly

cloud oasis
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true

stoic island
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@ripe wedge good thing about top exhaust is that you don't have to worry about tubes, it's going to be above the cpu, and tubes same same height as the other end.

ripe wedge
#

yeah

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I am doing top exhaust with my aio

#

looks better imo also

cloud oasis
#

i dont know if i should get air cooler

ripe wedge
#

I might do a push pull config with my aio

cloud oasis
#

cuz arctic liquid freezer looks cool and has good temps

ripe wedge
#

as long as I have long enough screws

cloud oasis
#

dont know any air cooled ones that arent bulky

kind hemlock
#

just finished the hardware installation for my motherboard, cpu, psu, and case swap, i switched to the B550M, Ryzen 5 3600, and a 750w power supply, although i can't sign in, i think i'm missing some drivers or something, i cant even sign to access the website to download them, anyone know what I should do? Please @ me :/

stoic island
#

think about it this way

cloud oasis
#

also i decided to get maximus hero

stoic island
#

AIO is an air cooler that just has the heatsink away from the CPU

cloud oasis
#

lots of stuff

stoic island
#

all coolers need a good sized heatsink

cloud oasis
#

true

stoic island
#

it's either on top of the CPU, or placed away in the form of a rad.

cloud oasis
#

u just changed my thinking of aios

final breach
#

Lmao

cloud oasis
#

And cpu cooling in general

final breach
stoic island
#

lel

#

But yea they really really shouldn't just say EVGA bad because G3 has that issue

cloud oasis
#

Also should i get rgb cables for looks or no

stoic island
#

EVGA is actually pretty good for PSUs in general

cloud oasis
#

not worth?

stoic island
#

rgb cables

#

no

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custom sleeved cables, eh maybe

cloud oasis
#

no rgb?

stoic island
#

oh and btw want to screw up your previous distinction of air vs liquid cooling?

still roostBOT
#
Lorax#0069 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

final breach
#

What was the PSU

#

I accidentally removed it

vital warren
#

rgb gets annoying

cloud oasis
#

Yep

#

do it

stoic island
#

Air cooling uses specialized liquids in the heat pipes to get heat away from the coldplate

#

so Air cooling uses liquid to move heat away

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:D

cloud oasis
#

actually?

stoic island
#

@final breach EVGA BR 600

final breach
#

Thanks

stoic island
#

Well, at least some

cloud oasis
#

Also why do coolers have so much space between the plate and the actual fans

stoic island
#

What do you mean?

final breach
#

@stoic island would it make a difference if I went semi or fully modular

#

With the PSU

stoic island
#

Oh they want as much surface area as possible for heat to dissapate

cloud oasis
stoic island
#

@final breach only difference is looks

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@cloud oasis think about it this way, they want the most area for fins for heat to dissapate

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fan only helps push that heat

cloud oasis
#

@final breach you just try to get fully modular

stoic island
#

Modular could be a bit easier to build with

cloud oasis
#

if u cant get semi

stoic island
#

but no performance difference

final breach
#

Ik

#

Aight

cloud oasis
#

also if cables break u cant replace with semi

stoic island
#

and why would they break lol

cloud oasis
#

Or damage

little leaf
#

^

cloud oasis
#

idk

stoic island
#

I've never heard of any cables just breaking

little leaf
#

Like putting them kn backward

cloud oasis
#

stuff can break

little leaf
#

How

stoic island
#

like in a reasonable way

final breach
#

Any good semi or fully modular psu recommendations?

stoic island
#

not saying you can't take a scissor to it

final breach
#

Decently priced

little leaf
#

Mwe 650

stoic island
#

I mean

#

not really compared to BR 600 at 60$ lol

#

mwe gold 650w usually 100$

final breach
#

I’m willing to spend a bit more for the psu

#

It’s a pretty critical part to the build lol

stoic island
#

And if you can spend enough for mwe gold

#

you can spend enough for Seasonic Focus GM

little leaf
#

Mwe gold 650

stoic island
#

which is just a better PSU

little leaf
#

Ye

final breach
#

what ab

stoic island
#

As I said

#

GM is just a better PSU

#

better warranty too

#

they got sources listed if you want to dig deeper.

final breach
#

that jawn mad cofusing

stoic island
#

?

#

higher on tier list = better

#

blue = especially quiet bois

#

gold = good bois

#

green = sfx bois

cloud oasis
#

Whats sfx bois

deep skiff
#

sfx psus

stoic island
#

small form factor PSUs

cloud oasis
#

also whats difference between multirail and singlerail psus

#

like whats better

stoic island
#

doesn't really matter

#

some people say more stable rails for multi-rail

#

but depends more on model

final breach
#

ill just get this one then ig

#

@stoic island good?

stoic island
#

ya

final breach
#

aight bet

plush wigeon
#

@stoic island lol the psu I have on my list isn't on that tier list

hard atlas
#

Hi.. If someone can help me about how can i build a pc dm me please

cloud oasis
#

@hard atlas yt videos exist

final breach
#

does the b55m mobo come with a m.2 heat sync

cloud oasis
#

Link

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@final breach

cloud oasis
#

yea

#

but if ur buying it just for the heatsink

final breach
#

im not

#

I was just asking if It had one

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because iim getting an m.2

cloud oasis
#

It does

vital warren
#

you don't need a heatsink anyway

olive kraken
#

Imagine getting a 3090 and a 10900k for fortnite

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Worst part. Imagine what them temps finna look like

#

RIP little 3090 running at 90c

#

*proceeds to call an 8700 and 1070ti not enough for fortnite while also getting 300fps * šŸ˜‚

#

I swear youtubers are hilarious to watch

foggy hazel
#

well, that particular one has you commenting on it here.

#

so in that regard, they did a good job (from their POV that is)

olive kraken
#

Yeah, I mean I'm not hating to each its own. It just makes me laugh when they say things like. Yeah I got a 3090 for fortnite at 1080p šŸ˜‚

foggy hazel
#

aye aye

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i normally just charge people like that a triple rate for wasting my time.

olive kraken
#

Business101

foggy hazel
#

aye

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IF people still want to pay, fair enough. cannot stop them from that

#

at least i get paid for doing boring work

olive kraken
#

That's fair

foggy hazel
#

from my POV, i have just built enough l33t gamer machines to last a couple of lifetimes

#

so i really dont want to build more if i can avoid it

stoic island
#

Oh boy let's hope that's not a h510

little osprey
#

Omg fortnite play a different game lol

buoyant flame
#

He also bought a 10900k a month before zen 3 lol

stoic island
#

bottom ac

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top is pg4 normal

#

(b550)

final breach
#

If you don’t know much about cases the h510 looks fine

#

But there are a lot of other cases that are better for a bit more

stoic island
#

. . .

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for less money you can get a better case

#

like

#

a lot better

#

MX330-g air

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3 rgb fans

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with actual airflow

#

and it's 60$

#

when h510 is 70$

#

@final breach I don't ever see a reason for me to put a h510 into anyone's lists

upbeat lodge
#

Should I build or buy

stoic island
#

Building yourself is 95% of the time just straight out better than prebuilts

upbeat lodge
#

Cheaper cus I’m on a budget

stoic island
#

Yes

upbeat lodge
#

Okay

#

Cus I can’t have a job yet

#

So

#

Idk how to find good parts

#

And should I down grade so parts and get a i9

#

Some

#

Or get a i7 and get better parts

stoic island
#

what budget

upbeat lodge
#

1000-2000

stoic island
#

and please go to your trash can, and empty your brain of "i9 i7 i5 i3"

upbeat lodge
#

Why ??

stoic island
#

that will be very helpful

#

i7 means basically nothing

rich void
#

Specs > Branding

balmy patio
#

i7 can mean lots of things

stoic island
#

@upbeat lodge an i7 could be a 4 core 4 thread chip from a decade ago, or a 6 core 12 thread chip from last year

#

who the hell knows

#

it doesn't specify

#

that's why you should straight up use model

upbeat lodge
#

Sorry I’m new to this building thing

balmy patio
#

its fine i used to do that kinda stuff

stoic island
#

yea be more specific

#

I hate intel for their branding with i3 i5 i7 i9

upbeat lodge
#

Well do I buy a i9

#

Idk how to be more specific

stoic island
#

no

#

i9-10900k? i9-9900k? i9-9980xe? i9-10980xe?

#

that's just from the last 2 generations

upbeat lodge
#

Oh

stoic island
#

that isn't even going down to wacky like i9-10920x

#

i9-7960x

#

etc etc

upbeat lodge
#

The new one ??

#

I guess

#

Or the best

stoic island
#

Lemme just make you an intel 1500$ list and I'll explain from there

upbeat lodge
#

okay

stoic island
upbeat lodge
#

Okay

#

Wow

#

Is that a good build

stoic island
#

:P

upbeat lodge
#

??

stoic island
#

do you think I'd purposefully make a bad build

upbeat lodge
#

No lol

stoic island
#

exactly

upbeat lodge
#

So it can run all the new games

#

Xbox game pass

stoic island
#

10600k+3080 is pretty good for 1500$ build

#

also

upbeat lodge
#

I’m not looking for something amazing

stoic island
#

what about monitors

#

3080 is pretty amazing tho :P

#

you looked into monitors yet, and consider their prices?

upbeat lodge
#

Just something I can play games on

#

Yeah

stoic island
#

and then keyboards and mouse and headset

upbeat lodge
#

300 for 2

#

Yeah

#

About

stoic island
#

I can help with monitors, and I can point you towards the right direction for kb+m+headest

upbeat lodge
#

2000 for it all

#

Thx for the build bro

stoic island
#

You're welcome, and I'd honestly put more budget for the monitors

upbeat lodge
#

Ye or nah

#

For 2

stoic island
#

let's step back for a second

#

you are aware that 3080 can easily give you a good 1440p 144hz gaming experience correct?

upbeat lodge
#

Yeah

stoic island
#

A large amount of people will consider 3080 quite overkill for 1080p.

sacred chasm
#

waiting for that 3080 to come out

#

back in stock kek

upbeat lodge
#

Yeah but the price

sacred chasm
#

3070 is going to go so fast

stoic island
#

A single one

sacred chasm
#

ist only 700 LOL

#

compared to the 2080 ti

stoic island
#

@upbeat lodge why do you want dual monitors?

upbeat lodge
#

Cus I have school stuff

#

And gaming

#

And it looks cool

sacred chasm
#

Hey man i got a triple monitor set up with a side desk for my work

stoic island
#

Because a single 27in 1440p monitor has a good bit more screen real-estate than a single 24in 1080p monitor

upbeat lodge
#

That’s amazing

stoic island
#

@sacred chasm yea I'm asking if they have a purpose for it

sacred chasm
#

The 27 inch is really nice

stoic island
#

because single 27in 1440p monitor is amazing for most people

sacred chasm
#

^

stoic island
#

better than having 2x1080p

sacred chasm
#

i used to have a 23 inch 1080 60 hz

stoic island
#

when you're just gaming at 1440p144hz on a 3080

sacred chasm
#

Its worth it upgrading to a 27 inch 1440

#

IMO 27 inch 144hz monitor is better than two 1080 monitors

upbeat lodge
#

Okay thx man

stoic island
#

Yea, that's my opinion unless you have something that requires 2 monitors

upbeat lodge
#

I will dm you if I need help

stoic island
#

this chat works too

sacred chasm
#

I use multiple monitors for my research and students

upbeat lodge
#

Or that

balmy patio
#

yeah and if youre going 1080p theres not much reason to get a 3080 if youre gonna be gaming on them

stoic island
#

@upbeat lodge just gonna warn you, peripherals get much deeper than just "good keyboard good headset", so you might want to look further into that

sacred chasm
#

I have some good recommedations if you need them

stoic island
sacred chasm
#

it really does

#

its been a couple of months since i've been active on the discord tho haha

#

I love minimalist setups

upbeat lodge
#

I want a steel series headset

sacred chasm
stoic island
#

I'm still trying to figure out audiophile stuff

sacred chasm
#

Oof

#

i got all of yall

stoic island
#

I'll wait for Naed

sacred chasm
#

lets move there

stoic island
#

Tier list pinned in channel @sharp bear

sharp bear
#

What ?

#

sorry didnt understand

balmy patio
#

its a tier list

#

for the psu's

sharp bear
#

what does that mean

stoic island
#

A>b>c>d self explanatory

sharp bear
#

so this one is tier A ?

little leaf
#

no

sharp bear
#

" The motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports are disabled. "
What does this mean? sorry i am new to pc builds and pc stuff.

stoic island
#

and that just means 2 sata ports disabled

small osprey
#

It means that u cant use 2 sata ports if u have a m.2 ssd

sharp bear
#

Oh okay thanks @small osprey @stoic island

sharp bear
little leaf
#

please send the shareable link

sharp bear
little leaf
#

3

sharp bear
#

wut why ?

foggy hazel
#

case = bad

#

ssd = overpriced

#

mainboard = overpriced

vital warren
#

i’d get an asrock b550 phantom

foggy hazel
#

etc etc

vital warren
#

if it’s not oos

sharp bear
#

@foggy hazel so you mean i can get same specs for lower price ?

foggy hazel
#

yes

little leaf
stoic island
#

Pro4 is fine

#

Pg4 was oos last I checked

sharp bear
#

@little leaf bro this case is ugly

foggy hazel
#

personally i would chuck the HDD and go with a 1tb ssd instead

little leaf
#

depends if you need more storage or not

sharp bear
#

yeah

#

this one looks better

foggy hazel
#

going 3700x is not a bad idea either imo

stoic island
#

Heh

sharp bear
#

@foggy hazel whats the difference ?

foggy hazel
#

simple or complex answer?

stoic island
#

And the difference between what

#

Lists?

foggy hazel
#

no, he is asking me about the 3600x and 3700x

sharp bear
#

@foggy hazel complex

stoic island
#

Fun answer time

foggy hazel
#

future proofing and ability to scale on a workload level VS hoping against reality that the consoles are slower than they appear like

#

that covers it all

stoic island
#

2 more cores

foggy hazel
#

basically, go with 3700x IF you want a CPU that at least has a chance to follow along with the next gen consoles

stoic island
#

Would 3700x be higher or lower binned silicon compared to 3600x? Prob doesn't matter

sharp bear
foggy hazel
#

aside from you switching back on the ram to something slower. yes

stoic island
#

Aka. switch back to faster ram @sharp bear

#

And strix is prob not gonna be at msrp

sharp bear
#

And strix is prob not gonna be at msrp
@stoic island whats that?

stoic island
#

It's not gonna be 500$

#

Gonna be more, don't know how much more yet.

sharp bear
#

the gpu

stoic island
#

Eh whatever you'll switch it out for whatever gpu you find at a good price when it launches

sharp bear
#

oh okay appreciate the help @foggy hazel @stoic island

foggy hazel
#

you are very welcome, best of luck :)

sullen spoke
#

@quiet trench could be a app trying to force close the nvidia container

stoic island
#

:)

granite imp
#

@icy lagoon I just swapped to that Corsair case and I’ve been seeing it every day since lol

icy lagoon
#

lol yea but its great right?

granite imp
#

In love it

#

Love the shorter footprint without the front drive space

little osprey
#

I’m pretty new to pc and stuff and don’t know a lot even though I try to do my research but I need honest opinions on this and if it’s worth the price

cloud oasis
#

No

#

its not

stoic island
#

@little osprey nzxt motherboard = bad

#

I've heard a lot of bad things about the bios

#

MSI Z490 Unify might catch your eye if you're going for that look

cloud oasis
#

Or vision g z490

unborn flicker
#

I got the vision d love it

#

Gigabyte z490 vision d

#

Not sure wat you price range is buts 299

brisk goblet
#

Anyone know if the x570 amd aorus xtreme from newegg is the rev.1.1?

sharp bear
#

micro atx or regular atx ? pros cons

little osprey
#

I am broke but need a new pc around 1200

#

Thank you

stoic island
#

@sharp bear mATX=smol
Atx=not smol

#

That's it

#

@little osprey 1200$ ain't broke :p

little osprey
#

it is my bday and Christmas combined so broke enough

vital warren
#

not at all but okay

#

someone make the man a 3070 build i'm eating

stoic island
#

Bruh I'm eating too

uncut pelican
#

Good 2tb hdd at 7200 rpm

#

?

lime forge
#

seagate barracuda

#

$55

#

good value

#

should be the first choice when you hit hard drives lol

little osprey
#

Bro anyone good at helping me with wires

stoic island
#

what kind

little osprey
#

I'm building my pc rn and idk where everything goes

#

It's my first time

stoic island
#

is quite simple

#

one cable at a time

little osprey
stoic island
#

that's cpu 8 pin

#

4 extra is optional.

little osprey
#

This

stoic island
#

4+4 stuff yea

little osprey
#

Ok

#

How can I wire it so that way it reaches but it's still neat

#

Because there is a slot above but it doesn't reach for me to plug it in

stoic island
#

ya don't >:)

#

who cares about cable management

little osprey
#

Hmm

#

That's a good point

#

But

stoic island
#

tho you can usually route it around the left side

little osprey
#

Ah ok

stoic island
#

if there's no good space behind the motherboard

little osprey
#

Like

#

That's as far as it reaches

stoic island
#

hm

#

that's a rip

#

barely doesn't reach

#

try tugging it a bit more

#

maybe

little osprey
#

I can try

stoic island
#

and then try to plug it in

little osprey
#

So

#

I can it far

#

The problem is bending it around

stoic island
#

yea you should be able to bend it to plug it in

#

yellow cables sus

#

:P

ripe wedge
#

@stoic island I have a question that u could answer quick prolly

stoic island
#

sure

#

if I can

ripe wedge
#

how can you tell which one is the cpu one

#

is it far right?

#

think that looks like a 4+4

little osprey
stoic island
#

mm

#

yea

#

bit hard to tell

#

but lemme try to make an outline

ripe wedge
#

yea I see its a 4+4 now

#

I was confused earlier looking at it lol

stoic island
ripe wedge
#

yea

#

I was worried they looked the same for a bit lol

#

was worried might accidentally use a pcie one instead cpu

#

lol

#

now I know for sure that wont happen

stoic island
#

lol

little osprey
#

I'ma try bending it and I'll let you know how it goes

stoic island
#

yea

#

it should bend fine

#

just take a bit of effort

little osprey
#

Alr

#

Would it break the system if I were to make it split and do half and half

#

So 4 in one of the things and four in the other

stoic island
#

Just don't

#

either leave the 4 pin on the left empty

#

or grab another cable

#

the 4 pin on the left is optional

#

left or right I forgot, but the 4 pin that's to the side and standalone

little osprey
#

Oop

#

These wires are stiff man

stoic island
#

GET EM INNNN

#

I write very good

little osprey
#

neat

#

Wait we don't need them to be neat right?

stoic island
#

who needs cables to be neat

#

it's literally only looks

#

even if you threw all your random cables in there, it doesn't really affect performance

little osprey
#

Ok

#

I have a plan

#

I will try it real quick

#

Oop

#

One of the godamn intake fans is in the way

#

I mean I can quickly Take it out and put It back

#

But for now I'ma have to pick up on this tommorow

upbeat lodge
#

Do you guys know when the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 is going to be on stock

#

In

stoic island
#

no one really knows :P

upbeat lodge
#

Dam

stoic island
#

keeps getting a few cards in and selling out in half a minute

upbeat lodge
#

Well I will watch it

cloud oasis
#

buy a prebuilt just for 3080

vital warren
#

no

cloud oasis
ripe wedge
#

I mean I could have bought a prebuilt with a 3080 in it

#

on newegg earlier

#

but meh

#

ill wait til they are available widely

exotic bison
#

So this is the first time this has happened I was playing Witcher 3 and my game just froze and I was getting a loud buzzing noise coming from the audio. My build is r5 3600x EVGA rtx 2070 super Asus prime B550M-A 24 gbs of Corsair vengeance rgb pro. What should I do about this

sharp steeple
#

Hello,
What's the best way to upgrade the following PC MSI MPG Trident 3 10SI-002CA Gaming Desktop with IntelĀ® i5-10400F, 1TB HDD, 512GB SSD, 8GB RAM, NVIDIA GTX 1660 Super & Windows 10 Home

I've beed told to add Ram. Is this correct or incorrect?

Please @ me! Any advice is greatly appreciated

lime forge
#

yes @sharp steeple

#

upgrading the ram would be a good upgrade to that build

#

bump that 8gb up to 16gb

#

im unsure what type of ram it takes, youd have to open up the PC and let me know if its laptop memory or desktop memory

#

before i make recommendations

sharp steeple
#

Okay you don't happen to know any ram do you? My last pc was led into a dead end upgrade wise

#

Ah okay!

#

I don't have it yet

#

Id like to have the ram when i get it

#

Thank you however! If i haven't figured it out ill be sure to put it here

lime forge
#

alright

#

when you open it up, check to see if it takes this ram (short)

sharp steeple
#

Ah okay! Will do! Thank you so much!

lime forge
#

sure, glad i could help

sharp steeple
#

Does this say if its long or short

#

Also if it does can you explain how?

stark tangle
#

Its the smaller kind based on the reviews of it

sharp steeple
#

I see!

#

Thank u!

#

You don't happen to know a good one for that do you?

stark tangle
#

I only know desktop ram fairly well im dumb asf when it comes to laptop ram

sharp steeple
#

Well thank you for pointing me in the right direction!

upbeat lodge
#

So want to get the 3080 but is out of stock so

#

What should I get

#

I’m willing to spend 700 usd

languid nimbus
#

3070 drops later this month, could try to wait on it/find a 3080 in the mean time

soft bison
#

3080 or 3070 is best choice for the coming months

#

3070 price to perf will be really good, but if you’re set on the 3080 just wait until it’s back in stock and get it right away

upbeat lodge
#

Okay thanks guys

#

So the 3080 drops this month

#

3070

wide estuary
#

3080 is out I believe it’s it’s the 3070

#

Out this month

upbeat lodge
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Okay that’s what I mean

glossy musk
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yo I have a problem that I made need some help fixing

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so I built a pc today and everything went good but my m.2 ssd is not showing up anywhere

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I installed it and I can’t find it on bios or when I boot into windows

stark tangle
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Is it all the way pushed in

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Literally

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It may not be seated fully

ripe wedge
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^

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@glossy musk like Korn said try to reseat the m.2 ssd. basically just unplug it and plug it back in

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and make sure it is being plugged in at like a 45 degreeish angle

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err maybe 30 degrees

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between 30 and 45 degrees

glossy musk
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that’s what I already did

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I could try again tho

stark tangle
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It may be just , dead