#building-and-recc-chat

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calm helm
little osprey
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Don't most games NOT support sli/crossfire

calm helm
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I am wondering if I could optimize cost with CPU cooler and power supply

little osprey
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Edited for a PSU too

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What you think?

calm helm
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I have to say I am no expert in cooling and PSU 😅 Are you confident this will be ok ?
Also checking the motherboard update

little osprey
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Motherboard is fine

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Btw, you need a wifi receiver?

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Or you going Ethernet?

calm helm
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That's not mandatory as I am using powerline ethernet, but that would be a nice addition yes

calm helm
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compatible with my build I guess

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(I have to say, thank you guys, I discovered this Discord today, this is amazing support from this community)

little osprey
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Yes

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It is compatible

calm helm
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Very cool. And finally, a case would be nice

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I can stick to New egg reco for now, still, if you have thoughts, please go ahead

outer heart
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choose one that fits your taste and has good airflow

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case represents you

deep sluice
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any uder 700$ build suggestion

stoic island
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oh boy I'm back

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@calm helm by the way, I'd suggest you get at least a z390 motherboard if you're getting that ram

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and also, why a 9900k not a 10900k?

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EVGA CLC AIOs are known for a fair bit of noise, but good cooling if you can bear with the noise.

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Intel does not benefit much from above 3200mhz cl16 ram, unlike AMD.

wary geode
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3080 with a rashberry pi

stoic island
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that's my quick 2 cents :P

paper eagle
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10900k are out of stock, unless you wanna pay an extra 300 from a third party seller.

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But he could get a i9-10850k, which is 99% just as good, for just under $500

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But I agree with Mr1111, why not get a 10th generation instead of a 9th generation? Future proof since intel stopped using lga-1151 socket and is now doing lga-1200 socket

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That way, if you want to upgrade your cpu again, you won't need a whole new board

calm helm
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I'll go with your advices yes

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can't find any decent price though for the 10900

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the 10850 is still ok

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but is there a huge difference between 10900k and 9900k ?

trim dock
stoic island
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First, 9900k is 8 cores 16 threads, and 10900k is 10 cores 20 threads

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Second, better single core perf.

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@trim dock are you just looking for a better motherboard? Just a motherboard wouldn't give you much of a performance difference, and with something that old, it could just be a better idea to buy an optiplex from eBay for ~140$.

calm helm
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@stoic island , thanks for the info, didn't know about userbenchmark !

stoic island
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deep skiff
calm helm
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eheh

stoic island
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Didn't even realize it was banned from r/hardware lol

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Just knew about the ban from r/Intel

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Basically shoddy scoring practices

calm helm
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another question: how would you judge from your perspective the choice of a Ryzen 9 3900X vs i9 10900k ?

deep skiff
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3900x for workstation/multicore tasks, 10900k if you want to flex or have the very best fps possible

calm helm
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okay

deep skiff
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honestly a 3600/3700x/10600k would be fine

calm helm
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@deep skiff , bottom line I should wait for new stocks of i9 10+

deep skiff
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10900k doesnt gain much for gaming vs something like a 10600k, even tho it has a decent amount of cores

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personally i would just get a 10600k or 10700k and some nice ram for gaming, but that would be pretty hands on tuning and everything

tired kiln
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Hello, Im new to pc building. Why does everything have to be so confusing?

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I've gotten so close to breaking stuff so many times

little osprey
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Can any one tell me a good $850 pc build

night iron
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Nice @ashen furnace You have the same speakers like me.

little osprey
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is it possible to switch my 1060 3gb for a 3070, my PSU is 480w

stoic island
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Much easier with passmark "total score" and "single thread score"

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Not just giving you a percent of yes 3950x is 1% better than 3900xt

little osprey
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Ok thank you but that doesn’t answer 😦

stoic island
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I'm responding to forks pinging me lmfao

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I can't multitask that quickly :p

stark bramble
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@little osprey 480w isnt enough at all

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get at least 650, 550 if u wanna cut it very close

little osprey
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Ok can you link where I can buy good PSU?

stoic island
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Yes

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What is budget

stark bramble
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never heard of that brand

little osprey
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but 141 :[

ashen furnace
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@night iron cool. I use the headset more than the speakers but the bass from the speakers is pretty amazing

stoic island
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I'm back for moar

stark bramble
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wait what 141

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oops

little osprey
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yes

stoic island
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:p

stark bramble
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yeah 650 should be enough anyways

stoic island
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Parametric selection

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Any PSU in the parametric selection

little osprey
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what does bronze, gold mean?

stoic island
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Efficiency rating

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Can safely ignore if you know the quality is good

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Use the PSU tier list pinned

night iron
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Yeah I have yet to play my speakers to the max to see how loud they are. @ashen furnace

ashen furnace
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@night iron youll be shocked of how loud they are

night iron
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Nice can’t wait to find out. Thanks @ashen furnace

stoic island
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The more labels the more legit :D

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Don't know if you try

stark bramble
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lmao

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ok

stoic island
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And also you can get get refund if needed

stark bramble
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true

shell wind
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can somone help me

little osprey
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with what

shell wind
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finding a good pc

little osprey
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whats your budget

stoic island
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What budget, for doing what, and when do you want it. @shell wind

shell wind
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1050

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good graphics and fps

stoic island
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Sooo gaming?

shell wind
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yes

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i can wait as long as its good

stoic island
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And is building it yourself not an option?

shell wind
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would like it to hjave windows ten so i can do school work also

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i cant really do that

stoic island
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Why?

shell wind
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cuase i dont kbow how or understand the vids

stoic island
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Saves money and gets better perf.

shell wind
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i dk how

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if i ask for a personal buld in this chat what does that mean

fast dust
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building is super easy

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its like legos

shell wind
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can u send me a vid

little osprey
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are you guys sure i would need a new PSU for a 3070?

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this build is almost identical to mine, the obvious exclusion being the video card

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the wattage doesn’t even reach 500 ..

stoic island
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Btw the only tool you'll every really need is a screwdriver

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Everything else is basically optional

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There's nothing mainstream that requires something other than a screwdriver to install and doesn't come with a tool.

shell wind
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its looks complicated

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im not familair with this stuff

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any other options?

little osprey
plush wigeon
shell wind
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we got a lot of ppl here

little osprey
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noooooooooo @plush wigeon

shell wind
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can anyone help me?

little osprey
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its a 165hz monitor going for $179.97 rn get that if your pc is good enough

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on amazon

shell wind
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@little osprey can you help me

plush wigeon
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I'm not able to get the monitor this month.

solar junco
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Anybody have any recommendations for a pc for around $800-900

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It would be my first pc and I’m trying to game and stream on it

shell wind
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who wroks here

fast dust
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@little osprey where's the SSD?

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you should definitely have an ssd in that build

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and why 650w PSU?

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also, ryzen 3600 is $175, and B450M PRO4-F shouldnt be $100, its usually like 75

shell wind
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@fast dust Can you help me

fast dust
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with what

shell wind
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can you look and what i sent above

fast dust
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about prebuilts?

shell wind
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i am lokking for a good pc i sent three links of options i have

fast dust
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@little osprey yeah definitely get a better psu 100%

shell wind
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i cant build it myself its troo complicated

fast dust
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its really not

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you can get one of us to choose the parts, and you can build

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choosing parts is the difficult step, building it is easy

little osprey
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well link one

shell wind
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i wached the vidio and i wont be able to figure out how to do it

fast dust
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then you obviously werent paying attention very well

little osprey
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@fast dust that is good for a 3070?

fast dust
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yes

little osprey
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with an i5-8400??

fast dust
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mhmm

little osprey
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are you sure these people are telling me i need minimum 650w

fast dust
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well, minimum is more like 550w

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but here

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ill get you a 600w so youre more comfortable with it

shell wind
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@fast dust lets say i try it and get stcuk what do I do?

fast dust
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ask here

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we're happy to help

shell wind
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ill give it a shot

fast dust
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good on you!

shell wind
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can i ell you what im looking for

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tell

fast dust
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yep. ill make you a list

shell wind
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really good grafics and good fps, good for gamiong and decent storage so i can also do school work

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ask me questions if you have

fast dust
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whats ur budget

shell wind
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1k but the lower the better

fast dust
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i have a 1k build on deck

shell wind
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show me

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when u can

fast dust
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just tweaking it a little first

shell wind
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take your timwe

shell wind
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what is the graaphics

fast dust
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RTX 2060

stoic island
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I'm back

fast dust
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hi mr1

shell wind
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isnt that what the averge pc is

fast dust
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average 1k PC yeah

stoic island
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Looks decent

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They prob don't want to dip in used

shell wind
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and thats better than the links i sent?

fast dust
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all the way yes

stoic island
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Holy hell P12 is expensive now

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Don't need a p12 in td500 mesh lol

fast dust
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just as an exhaust fan

stoic island
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Ya

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Stock works really nicely

fast dust
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only $12 its whatever

stoic island
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Just bothers me

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Just look at all the stock testing, already works quite well :p

fast dust
stoic island
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God damn it

fast dust
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matches the ones included with td500

stoic island
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Why does it need an exhaust fan xD

fast dust
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why not

stoic island
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Bothers me having that extra 12$ of expenses

little leaf
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why is that build 1k?

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shouldn't a 5700xt build be 1k

stoic island
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3600 prices went up

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It's 210$ for a 3600 now

shell wind
stoic island
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Used to be 170$

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No

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That one is worse

shell wind
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how

little leaf
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could just use a 3100

shell wind
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whats diffrent

fast dust
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slower memory, not as much storage, dramless ssd, worse psu

stoic island
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Crappy ram

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Crappy ssd

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Crappy psu

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Also worse board

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Smaller SSD

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Worse case for airflow

shell wind
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its has more starage

little leaf
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needs a pc and won't build it himself

fast dust
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ew 8gb ram

stoic island
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What

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@shell wind it has less

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The list yams sent had 256gb ssd+2tb hdd

fast dust
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my list has 500gb SSD + 2tb HDD
that build has 240gb SSD + 1tb hdd

stoic island
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That one has 240gb ssd+1tb hdd

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Uh yams you should prob change it to a 512gb in the list

fast dust
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oh is it a 250gb

stoic island
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It's 256gb in the one you sent

shell wind
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is it to much to ask you huys to compare them

fast dust
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ok my b

little osprey
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lmao

shell wind
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no, im asking you

fast dust
little leaf
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mr111 thoughts on the prebuilt though?

shell wind
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like you did for the storage

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do for all aspects

little leaf
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I thought it was a pretty good deal for a prebuild

shell wind
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@fast dust how much more is a better graphics

still roostBOT
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Yams#9651 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

fast dust
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wtffffffff

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that was a whole comparison list

shell wind
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nooooo

fast dust
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omg

shell wind
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did it delete it

fast dust
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ok ill type it again

shell wind
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u can dm me if u want aslo

little leaf
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wait yams

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if this is for gaming

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why don't you use a 3100

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and 5700xt

stoic island
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You could tbh

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but 5700xt sucky

little leaf
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or a 10400

stoic island
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no

little leaf
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10400 only 170

stoic island
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remember that 3300x beats 10400 pretty easily

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when it was in stock :(

little leaf
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yes but 3300x ins't here

stoic island
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because 2666mhz

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the point is, 2666mhz unless you splurge

fast dust
stoic island
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@fast dust 3600x on the market is 210$

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change it in list

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same cpu

fast dust
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3600 is 175 rn

stoic island
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wait

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change it on pcpp then xD

little leaf
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not anymore

stoic island
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walmart

fast dust
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and amazon

fast dust
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@little leaf why is there an intel stock cooler even though its ryzen

stoic island
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I say get a nzxt entry one at least lel

shell wind
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yams or anyone do i need part to build it

little leaf
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idk lol

stoic island
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yea that image is prob stock image

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all the parts you need to build one is in the list

little leaf
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can't 700

fast dust
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PSU looks like crap, ram is probably single channel

stoic island
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that's all it takes

shell wind
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and yams or anyone how much more is better graphics

fast dust
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did you see the list i sent

stoic island
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one sec I thought nzxt added a 700$ one

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@shell wind wdym by "better"

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like a 2070?

fast dust
shell wind
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higher

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yes i saw it

little leaf
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@stoic island starter from nzxt is worse though

stoic island
little leaf
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by a decent amount

shell wind
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you win gg

fast dust
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you could get 2060 super for $100 more

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or 5700 XT for $100ish more

stoic island
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oh I thought it was 1650 super

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nvm

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it's only a 1650 in nzxt

shell wind
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is it a significaN DIFFERANCE

little leaf
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ye

fast dust
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yeah itll be a bit of a difference

stoic island
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@fast dust I wouldn't spend more than 300$ on a new GPU when the used market is yaknow

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kidna sad

fast dust
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@stoic island can you take care of this mans i gotta leave

stoic island
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but I also don't think they'll want used

shell wind
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@fast dust do i need tools to build it

stoic island
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because used market wacky market

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@shell wind screwdriver

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got one?

marsh kiln
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Does anyone else go into stores like Wal-Mart and make fun of there prebuilt computers for fun or is it just me?

stoic island
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you have the tools.

fast dust
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@fast dust do i need tools to build it
a screwdriver.

shell wind
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okay i have one lol

stoic island
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A swiss army knife can build a good PC

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it's simple :P

shell wind
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can some switch the grapohic card for a better one and guive me a new list

stoic island
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time to edit list behind yam's back

shell wind
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oooooo

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bad boy

stoic island
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@fast dust rip crucial ballistix

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UK import

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that's a nope

shell wind
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@stoic island can u edit it

stoic island
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I am lmao

shell wind
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k thanks

stoic island
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there, better gpu

shell wind
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so it will make game look much clearer than 2060

stoic island
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what

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higher fps

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wait do you even have a monitor

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or a keyboard

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or mouse

shell wind
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yeah i have a complete gaminbg pc

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u think im crazy

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i wanna return it

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its not good enoughj

stoic island
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what do you have

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monitor

shell wind
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i have a monitor but ordered a better one thats coming in a week

stoic island
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what monitor

shell wind
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this one:AOC C32G1 32" Curved Frameless Gaming Monitor, FHD 1920x1080, VA panel, 1ms MPRT, 144Hz, FreeSync, DisplayPort/HDMI/VGA, VESA, black
Visit the AOC Store

stoic island
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uhhhhhhhh

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32in 1080p

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that's just gonna look pixelated

stoic island
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there's a problem of the combination of resolution of size.

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of just the same amount of pixels being stretched across a larger screen

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24in 1080p is the sweet spot

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27in 1080p starts to look pixelated to most people

shell wind
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its too small for me

stoic island
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uh why?

woeful maple
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do you sit fat back?

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far*

shell wind
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not really

stoic island
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I game on a 24in monitor and it's just fine

shell wind
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so it wont fit?

stoic island
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Like why is 24in too small for you?

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it will look like crap.

shell wind
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Cause bigger is better

stoic island
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no

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it's not

woeful maple
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not in all cases

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this particular case especially

stoic island
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As I've said, stretching the size of the screen with the same amount of pixels makes it look worse

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it's like when you watch youtube in 360p instead of 1080p

woeful maple
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^

woeful maple
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plus 24inch is the best if you are gaming

stoic island
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out of stock, I'll find you one

fleet pagoda
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When does 3080 come out

shell wind
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i have it

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im curentlly using iut

fleet pagoda
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It came out alr?

stoic island
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it's good

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@fleet pagoda completely sold out

fleet pagoda
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Bruh

shell wind
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i got it 3 weeks ago

stoic island
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first second got sold out lol

shell wind
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so that means its good?

stoic island
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wait

woeful maple
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it means people want it

stoic island
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that's 75hz

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so yea no

shell wind
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yeah

stoic island
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not a good gaming monitor

shell wind
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i want better one

woeful maple
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144hz + only

shell wind
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can u recocoment

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reccomend

stoic island
woeful maple
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it mostly depends on budget..

shell wind
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under 2

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can u look

stoic island
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I did

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that's 160$

woeful maple
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then you will get bottom of the barrel acer prolly

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which isnt recomended

stoic island
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btw monitor prices dropped a lot

woeful maple
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o rly

stoic island
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<200$ is standard for 1080p144hz

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G241 is 190$ now

shell wind
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so with that monitor and the pc i will buld and the graphic u gave me i will have a very clear aND SMOOTH PC?

stoic island
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IPS 144hz

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Once it's set up, yes.

shell wind
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o YOU CAN EDIT THATS COOL

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HMM

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im not ten

stoic island
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@woeful maple like not long ago 400$ was standard for a cheapish 1440p144hz panel (MAG272cqr), 330$ is standard now

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there's a good gigabyte 1440p144hz panel that's been at 330$ on newegg

shell wind
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do u know a monitor thats good and more than 144hz

stoic island
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why

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you're not gonna need it

shell wind
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okay i trust you

woeful maple
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plus its not under 200

stoic island
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the one I linked was 160$ for 1080p144hz

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there used to be a samsung monitor at around 150$ 1080p144hz

shell wind
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dou you think everythibng wiull come in a week

stoic island
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no idea where it went

shell wind
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where what

woeful maple
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it what is it

stoic island
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about a week, depending on the company shipping it

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samsung monitor

shell wind
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are you talking to me about the samsung monitor

stoic island
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no

shell wind
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so ishould go ahead with the order

stoic island
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gimme a sec

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lemme just confirm everything you're about to get

shell wind
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thanks that means you care

stoic island
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Once you get everything, get back in here and someone will help you through the building process if you have questions

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@ Naed is a good person to ask

shell wind
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So buy every item induvidually

winged coyote
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yo i have a qustion. when you go to new egg and build a pc. does it come prebuilt?

stoic island
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yea there's no easy way to buy all of them at the lowest price listed

little osprey
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can somebody make me an $1800 all white PC build for gaming please

stoic island
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the newegg build selector thing? no

winged coyote
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damn lol

stoic island
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you gotta build it yourself

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ez

little osprey
shell wind
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@stoic island can you tell me what to press

stoic island
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@little osprey I'd honestly wait for RTX3080s to go back in stock lol xD

winged coyote
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is it ez tho>

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for a noob lol

stoic island
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see where it says "amazon", or like "newegg" on the side of the parts?

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click those

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that'll bring you to it's product page

shell wind
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and buy them from those sites

stoic island
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Yes

shell wind
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and if its from the same sight i could buy them together?

stoic island
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sure

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check with your parents or whatever first

shell wind
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k thanks

winged coyote
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should i wait for the 3080 or just say f it

stoic island
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If your budget is 1500$ or above, wait for RTX 3080 to go back in stock at msrp

winged coyote
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bro im willing to spend like 3k lol

stoic island
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Yea so wait xD

still roostBOT
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the one opossum#3448 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

winged coyote
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crap

fleet pagoda
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If i buy a cpu will a cpu cooler come with it

stoic island
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AMD, yes

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Intel some have a horrible stock cooler, some just don't have a stock cooler at all.

winged coyote
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i got warned bc i am a potty mouth

stoic island
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yes

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bad mouth

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get washed

winged coyote
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my laptop sounds like a jet engin

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is that bad.

fleet pagoda
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Yh im gonna be getting a amd ryzen 7 3700x

winged coyote
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ryzen or intel?

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got gaming

stoic island
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I mean that just means fans are running at high :p

winged coyote
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for

fleet pagoda
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And prob a 3070

stoic island
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I'd wait to make the final decision when you are getting ready to buy everything, but the current situation wise, Intel is best for gaming.

winged coyote
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copy taht

fleet pagoda
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I was gonna get a 2060 super but its 400

stoic island
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used market

fleet pagoda
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Might aswell get a 3070

stoic island
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Ye

fleet pagoda
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😻

winged coyote
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mr111 can you walk me threw it? i wanna make sure everything works

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i wanna build it in newegg

stoic island
winged coyote
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is it better?

stoic island
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Right now yea

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Newegg builder is still in beta

winged coyote
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😐

stoic island
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Bugs to iron out and only newegg pricing with no custom parts

shell wind
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@stoic island Everything comes out to 1177$ withy tax

stoic island
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Fair enough

winged coyote
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isnt the core i9 bad?

stoic island
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?

little leaf
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no

stoic island
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Bad in what way

little leaf
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bad in value

shell wind
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fair enough to me right

winged coyote
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idk i hear it was bad

stoic island
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Bad in value yea

winged coyote
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if i was making a bad ass gaming computer would i use it

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...

stoic island
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It's really expensive for a small gain in performance

little leaf
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yes

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if you have 4k

winged coyote
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ok

stoic island
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But if you're spending 3000$, it doesn't matter

fleet pagoda
#

What is memory how much should i have

stoic island
#

Ram?

fleet pagoda
#

Ig

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Idk

stoic island
#

Standard setup for gaming is 2x8gb

winged coyote
#

so what is the like i7 - 10700k thing

fleet pagoda
#

K

stoic island
#

On AMD, get 3600mhz cl16 ram

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On Intel, 3200mhz cl16 works

#

@winged coyote put simply, "i7" is crappy marketing term, "10700k" tells you about the product, and the "k" for Intel chips mean it's overclockable

winged coyote
#

so higher the number the better?

stoic island
#

To put very very simply, yes.

winged coyote
#

aight

stoic island
#

The higher, the more cores, and usually better bin.

winged coyote
#

ok. im not that smart so if its a higher the better just say that lol

stoic island
#

What matters for gaming is single core/thread performance, which Intel has a lead over AMD in.

winged coyote
#

ok

stoic island
#

Hey, simplifying things now will only lead to confusion later imo

shell wind
#

@stoic island ao im spending to muck?

stoic island
#

Just hearing "higher is better" is gonna get you an expensive 10980xe that isn't meant for gaming

#

No

shell wind
#

im good right?

winged coyote
#

ok, so liqud cooling good?

stoic island
#

You want long or short answer

shell wind
#

ME?

stoic island
#

@shell wind you're good

shell wind
#

okay thamnsk

winged coyote
#

welp i have all day

stoic island
#

Gamers nexus is a great channel for information, videos are a bit long, it's reccomended to watch in 1.25x or higher speed.
https://youtu.be/7VzXHUTqE7E

We're answering the question of whether "liquid cooling or air cooling is better," ft. the Noctua NH-D15, Deepcool Assassin III, NZXT Kraken X62 / X72 (280mm, 360mm), and more.
Sponsor: Buy Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on Amazon (https://geni.us/1D8Eeq) or Hydronaut paste (htt...

▶ Play video
#

Pay attention to what he says at the start and near the conclusion

winged coyote
#

ok

#

if i get annoying about these things tell me and i will stop, im sure its hard to teach newer people about building a pc lol

stoic island
#

Nah you're fine

#

If I get annoyed or lazy I'll just ping someone else to explain :p

winged coyote
#

ok lol

#

imma just go with the fan lol

#

@stoic island does the size of a case matter that much? or can i just get a big one and be fine?

stoic island
#

Bigger is fine

#

As long as the case itself is good

winged coyote
#

ok. can you do like 2 ssd's or just one of each?

stoic island
#

?

winged coyote
#

for the storage

stoic island
#

As long as the motherboards have the ports for it, you can fill it up if you want :p

#

For a usual mid end build I default to 1tb NVMe SSD and a 2tb hdd

winged coyote
#

so a ssd and a hd?

shell wind
#

@quartz gyro11 how many usb do i get

little osprey
#

Got my Asus rog Strix 8gb 5500xt

shell wind
#

@stoic island how many usbs do i have

little osprey
#

@shell wind maybe I can help

shell wind
#

maybe u can

little osprey
#

3

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2 2.0, 1 3.1

stoic island
#

On rear io

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And another 1 or 2 on front io

shell wind
#

i need 4

stoic island
#

Iirc that board has 2 usb 3 internal headers

#

@little osprey can ya check mobo sheet for me

#

Mobile hates loading up that sheet

shell wind
#

i need 2 foir ketybiored ands mopuse one for wireless headset and one for a controller

little osprey
#

@stoic island I did

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It said 2 2.0 headers

shell wind
#

so am i good

stoic island
#

What does it say for internal

little osprey
#

1 3.1 header

stoic island
#

Not rear io

shell wind
#

@little osprey @stoic island am i good

little osprey
#

That's all it says

stoic island
#

That'll be enough then, 3 things plugged out back and 1 on case

shell wind
#

ok

stoic island
#

Wait salvecai

little osprey
#

@shell wind depends

stoic island
#

Mobo sheet doesn't say it?

#

You sure?

shell wind
#

on what

stoic island
#

It has like every god damn thing

little osprey
#

It only says USB headers

#

I can take a screenshot of you want

shell wind
#

do i need an adapter for an exter usb

stoic island
#

3 internal headers

#

I checked mobo sheet

#

Can't take screenshot for some reason

little osprey
#

I dod

#

*did

stoic island
#

A 3.0 and 2 2.0

#

Internal headers

little osprey
#

@shell wind you can if you want

#

But I'm using one USB rn

#

It runs both my mouse and keyboard

stoic island
#

And it says 4 usb 3.0 type a headers on my end..... Hmm

winged coyote
#

@stoic island whats the 3080 length?

stoic island
#

@winged coyote check Nvidia website, iirc around 300mm

little osprey
#

@shell wind my Mobo has 7 on rear and 3 on my case

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@stoic island I checked sundayys Mobo pics

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He had 6 on the rear io

#

That's more than enough

shell wind
#

k thanks

little osprey
#

Glad to be of help

winged coyote
#

@stoic island i think i built everything but the 3080

stoic island
#

@little osprey yea I checked mobo sheet

#

Says 4 usb 3.0 type a and 2 usb 2.0

#

On rear io

#

Plus a usb 3.0 internal header and 2 usb 2.0 internal headers

winged coyote
#

@stoic island is the thermaltake s300 good??

stoic island
#

gotta go, look up reviews for now

winged coyote
#

ok

stoic island
#

I trust GN the most with case reviews so find the GN review if they have one

winged coyote
#

think you for everything!!

stoic island
#

You're welcome

fast dust
#

Mr1 you can edit my lists

#

Doesn’t have to be behind my back

#

Cause I know I suck at like most things hardware so

#

In fact I would appreciate criticism

foggy hazel
#

@stoic island care to explain why this ("If I get annoyed or lazy I'll just ping someone else to explain :p") made my eyebrow twitch?

deep skiff
#

idk but im guessing ur eyebrow is twitchy

stoic island
#

uhhhhh

#

UHHHHH

#

@foggy hazel hey can you explain I'm gonna go do something else

foggy hazel
#

:P

olive kraken
#

Thougths on this for my new build?

#

I'm trying to go blacked out

#

Even though Lian Li fand r tempting

deep skiff
#

why the 3800xt and z63?

foggy hazel
#

curiosity, is that 850 sticker price just a guess or?

deep skiff
#

it should be 160

#

on bestbuy it is at least but oos

olive kraken
#

The 3800xt simply because I wanna try at OCing

#

A lot

#

And I think that's the besy ryzen cpu to do si

deep skiff
#

go with a 10600k if u wanna oc a lot :p

olive kraken
#

Idk much about intel cpus

#

Only had ryzen

#

@deep skiff on that note what's a good mobo to OC? I chose that one at random

deep skiff
#

what kinda price?

olive kraken
#

Up to 300USD

#

Also the cooler simply because AIOs take longer to reach their maximum temps so I can OC and adjust easier than having an air cooler etc but if you know of any better aio sure

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As long as it's black

deep skiff
#

aorus elite/master look solid, msi unify, taichi

fast dust
#

taichi love_it

deep skiff
#

the x63 is the same cooler just without the lcd screen and is like $100 cheaper, the nzxt z series are just hella pricy for the screen

olive kraken
#

Fair enough

#

I like msi's unify better

#

Fits my aesthetic

deep skiff
#

unify looks smexy and its a pretty nice board

olive kraken
#

Facts

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It's just that I thought RGB was cool

#

So I got a build with lots of pretty lights

#

But I quickly realized it's not for me

foggy hazel
#

non-window cases, that actually have thought put into the design lines of the exterior? yes please.

olive kraken
#

As long as RGB is the trend

#

I'm afraid not

foggy hazel
#

there are plenty of options

#

just about all of fractal design comes to mind

#

a lot of the be quiet cases

#

a lot of the silverstone cases

olive kraken
#

Yes but the general consensus

#

RGB = Gamers

foggy hazel
#

that is just the ones that speak up

#

RGB lovers are like vegans

#

dont worry, they will tell you

olive kraken
#

😂

foggy hazel
#

i have seen case lights come and go a number of times over the years

olive kraken
#

I like rgb to some extent but the whole constant rainbor or constant blue purple got me tired mad quick

foggy hazel
#

i personally really liked the CCL period

deep skiff
#

a lot of sff cases dont have glass side panels its nice love_it

foggy hazel
#

that light has a "nice" feel to it

olive kraken
#

U see I started getting into computers a year and a half ago

foggy hazel
#

aye aye, i know Taku, you are very new to the field :)

olive kraken
#

I can only see videos of the past

#

I saw a motherboard that had like blue accents

deep skiff
#

yuh thats what they used to be like

olive kraken
#

Yes I'm like a baby.

#

New to this but in a year and some experience I realize this is my passion

deep skiff
foggy hazel
#

the progress/story/road that you are exploring is what made most of us fall in love with doing this.

#

so in that regard, it is interesting to watch you explore/learn Taku

olive kraken
#
  • building computers is like planning a wedding, u forget one thing and oh fck
#

I always forget to plug one thing in and freak out

foggy hazel
#

i am still SO wishing that the white/red Sapphire mainboard design makes a comeback at some point

olive kraken
#

Idk what that is but white and red is a yes

viral ore
#

we need more white pcb for sure

deep skiff
#

those look funky

olive kraken
#

I'd like a mobo that is the darkesr dark possible

#

OHHHH

viral ore
#

my goodness that is gorgeous

olive kraken
#

The light reflection holy

foggy hazel
#

and that is a horrible old picture

deep skiff
#

lol imagine that but with modern things like vrm covers and pcie covers

foggy hazel
#

it is sooo pretty in reallife

olive kraken
#

I bet

#

Also can intel run 3600mhz stable?

#

Switched my build up from you guy's feedback.

deep skiff
#

it should be fine

olive kraken
#

Idk if RAM designed to OC is a thing but lmk

#

I Want a machine to play with

deep skiff
#

grab a nice b die kit if u wanna tinker with it

winged coyote
#

hey im looking to build a new computer, and this is my first time doing it. can i get some help with it? i have somthing built in newegg and i jsut want the ok for it XD

olive kraken
#

Idk what that is

#

Sure@winged coyote

winged coyote
#

@olive kraken you will help me?

olive kraken
#

Yeah

winged coyote
#

think you sm!!

olive kraken
#

I mean u can also just post it here and everyone can help you

#

Whichever is easier

winged coyote
#

i sent it to you

#

the build

foggy hazel
#

@olive kraken you can post it here in public if you are in doubt.

olive kraken
#

@foggy hazel tis my OC build

#

RAM at 3200mhz to try to OC

foggy hazel
#

i was talking about the build that @winged coyote sent you @olive kraken :)

olive kraken
#

Oh

#

xD

#

Mb

foggy hazel
#

and as i said, only IF you had doubt

olive kraken
#

Welp, my fren here needs a GPU now

winged coyote
#

yes

olive kraken
#

10600
Z490
16GB Ram
Upper mid range

#

But I can't bring myself to recommend a GPU rn @foggy hazel

#

2070 is obviously a great choice and the performance is great. And I am not comfortable asking him to navigate the used market for a 500dollar 2080ti panic seller

foggy hazel
#

how much room in the budget?

#

and when is he building the machine?

olive kraken
#

@winged coyote

winged coyote
#

3k and sooner then later

foggy hazel
#

start trying to buy a 3080 for less than 800

#

when you have that, you have something that makes sense

winged coyote
#

none of this makes sence lol

foggy hazel
#

nothing else really makes sense right this second

#

you are lvl 3 now (your name is green) so you can post links yourself

#

please post your build

winged coyote
#

do i just send the newegg link

#

?

foggy hazel
#

aye, just post the link here

foggy hazel
#

seeing as there is just a mainboard and some random ram on that list

#

(because its the wrong link)

#

that link :)

winged coyote
#

pfft i knew that

#

so

#

its doesnt show that

#

nvm

foggy hazel
#

unfold the list from the right side

winged coyote
#

didnt know i had to save lol

foggy hazel
#

ah :)

cold hearth
#

Processor: Intel Core i7-6700 CPU @ 4.00 GHz (8CPUs)
DirectX 12
8 GB DDR 4
Graphics Card: AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT 6GB
Hard Disc Capacity: 232 GB
Solid State Capacity: 931 GB
Motherboard: ASUS Z170-Pro
EVGA 650 GQ - 650W Gold Power Supply

#

Is this good for 650$

bold jackal
#

imo yeah

cold hearth
#

Found it on Mercari lol

foggy hazel
#

@winged coyote there is a long way from that budget to 3000

bold jackal
#

Oh

#

I see.

winged coyote
#

i know.

foggy hazel
#

so, what else is supposed to be included in that budget?

winged coyote
#

i just need the Pc lol

foggy hazel
#

you got a monitor?

winged coyote
#

yes

#

i mean,

bold jackal
#

Awww @cold hearth im jelly

winged coyote
#

2 monitors

cold hearth
#

lol

foggy hazel
#

which models?

bold jackal
#

im going for the 3070

cold hearth
#

Sold out in literally 5 minutes

bold jackal
#

Oh my

still roostBOT
#
Mouse#9773 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

cold hearth
#

I mean

bold jackal
#

rip

olive kraken
#

XD

cold hearth
#

Bots snagged them all 😦

winged coyote
#

@foggy hazel whatchu mean?

olive kraken
#

Is it high refresh rate what resolution

winged coyote
#

oh 144 and 1920 x 1080

olive kraken
#

If u get a 3080 u might wanna crank that up

#

"For Gamers" ofc

bold jackal
#

I got a 1440p 144hz

winged coyote
#

how about we look for somthing that works with what i have lol

foggy hazel
#

@winged coyote we are going to.

winged coyote
#

ok lol

foggy hazel
#

but we are going to have to move your list to something that is actually sensible

winged coyote
#

do it

foggy hazel
#

because that builder tool is not .... practical

winged coyote
#

just do your thing lol

foggy hazel
#

@olive kraken could you transfer it all to PCPP?

olive kraken
#

I'm eating rn

foggy hazel
#

then @winged coyote you will have to wait a bit.

winged coyote
#

ok

foggy hazel
#

because i need to finish up other tasks here before i can focus on yours

winged coyote
#

thats cool i can do my math as i wait lol

olive kraken
#

@foggy hazel @winged coyote

#

First of all 600w for a 3080 and a 10700k worries me especially from TT

#

Also, that cpu cooler. You could get something a lot better

winged coyote
#

thermal take is what i use for my laptop so thats what i picked lol

olive kraken
#

there are better brands

#

imo

winged coyote
#

like who lol

#

idk brand names lol

#

is corsair good?

little osprey
#

yea

bold jackal
#

yea

#

They're pretty good

little osprey
#

^

#

most items are really good

#

but they are a few bummers

#

water cooling is really good thou

olive kraken
#

corsair, evga, SeaSonic, some Cooler Master, Silverstone, bitfenix

winged coyote
#

ok

granite delta
#

ok

olive kraken
#

I'd recommend something along these lines, I lowered your ram in favor for better cas latency because I don't think you will need 32GB

#

16GB is just now become the standard for some games

winged coyote
#

ok

stoic island
#

Interesting

winged coyote
#

is the cooling ex to put in?

stoic island
#

very expensive psu

winged coyote
#

ez

olive kraken
#

AIOs are pretty straight forward yeah

stoic island
#

holy hell that's an expensive ssd

foggy hazel
#

@stoic island got the time to take that one?

stoic island
#

I can try

#

oh no

#

freezer ii 360mm is oos

#

:(

#

very sad days

winged coyote
#

i feel really lost rn lol

foggy hazel
#

@winged coyote just answer the questions that @stoic island asks you :)

#

he also knows what he is doing

winged coyote
#

yes sir

stoic island
#

hey

#

it's me again

#

3000$ gaming build right?

winged coyote
#

yes

stoic island
#

Need monitor in that price or no

winged coyote
#

i have a monitor

stoic island
#

what do you have?

winged coyote
#

144h 1920x1080

#

acer

stoic island
#

I'd suggest some better monitors :)

winged coyote
#

ok

#

lets say i cant get a monitor but just the pc

stoic island
#

Checking over z490 boards, give me a moment

olive kraken
#

3080 will give u more than 144fps at 1080p

winged coyote
#

so then would i have to go to a 2070?

stoic island
#

By the way, do you need wifi?

olive kraken
#

not rly

winged coyote
#

i have a ecable

stoic island
#

Also, having a system that over-performs doesn't hurt you in any way.

neon condor
#

3080 will bottleneck any modern cpu at 1080P.

olive kraken
#

yah

stoic island
#

it's 144hz soo

#

It's not even going to matter

neon condor
#

1440P is becoming the standard and 4K is really becoming what 1440P has been.

winged coyote
#

hey bryce hows league ;p;

#

lol

neon condor
#

Good

#

1080P is dying. Just like 720P.

#

That's why i moved all my displays over to 1440P.

olive kraken
#

Thats rude

neon condor
#

Rude or real?

winged coyote
#

trueee

little osprey
#

Rude or real?
YEP its real

olive kraken
#

I like playing at 720p at 280hz with so much reverse ghosting I feel like I am playing with inversed colors

#

Its real but also rood

winged coyote
#

i see no probs with that

olive kraken
#

Some people out there on their 1600x900 displays rn

neon condor
#

1440P is honestly what's the sweet spot for high framerates and great visuals.

analog hearth
#

I've seen some people actually enjoy a 900p display lolll

olive kraken
#

Aye, I enjoy 720p. xd

#

Ive never seen a 1440p display

#

Ive only seen 1080 to 4k

molten cedar
#

how much is the 2070 super white edition worth?

olive kraken
#

A lot less in a month

stoic island
#

hmm

#

@winged coyote any particular reason behind the case?

winged coyote
#

its rainbow

#

rgb

olive kraken
#

lmfao

#

that was me 7m ago

winged coyote
#

gamers dream

analog hearth
#

rainbow

olive kraken
#

ew

#

Blacked out PCs r better

#

Can't change my mind

stoic island
#

just slapping in a td500 mesh

analog hearth
#

there's something about blackout PCs that hit different

winged coyote
#

bruh i wana look at the thing and relize how muchof a flex it is

olive kraken
#

My current PC is full on rainbow(first pc) and I legitemate dislike it so much I am giving it to my sister and getting a new one

stoic island
#

Are you going for an AIB or FE 3080?

olive kraken
#

I saw my coworker's blacked out PC and I was like, this..... I need this

analog hearth
#

just turn the lighting off?

stoic island
#

tinted tempered glass

#

like on meshify c

#

it looks really nice

winged coyote
#

idk what that us

#

is

olive kraken
#

Nah, its a white case. It wouldn't look as good

winged coyote
#

send pic of a blacked out one

stoic island
stoic island
#

FE or AIB

winged coyote
#

um

#

yes

analog hearth
#

yummy

stoic island
#

the first one

#

or different ones

analog hearth
#

him chonky

stoic island
#

because if you go FE, I'd grab a seasonic PSU for the free cable

winged coyote
#

one that i can buy

stoic island
#

if you go AIB, I'd get like an ion+

#

both are out of stock xD

winged coyote
#

well what is in stock XD

stoic island
#

none xD

winged coyote
#

......

stoic island
#

all the 3080s are out of stock atm

winged coyote
#

witch one wont sell out as fasty

stoic island
#

prob aib

#

so ion+ time

winged coyote
#

are they the same?

#

3080?

#

chat went quiet

analog hearth
#

lol what happened

#

3080 is a 3080.

#

math is math

stoic island
#

hmmm

analog hearth
#

math

winged coyote
#

bro just get the best and cool one

neon condor
analog hearth
#

I have adhd

#

please make fun of me

olive kraken
#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QX7s6R this is the pc I am going to be building I am getting it fully blacked out. I also want to try OC as much as possible because I am tired of being a basic b. Don't know which RAM is good for Overclocking though

#

I am still trying to pick the best parts for Overclocking and hoping for the best

#

I don't know what b-die is

foggy hazel
#

@neon condor is there a chance that you could NOT spread FUD like this "Founders Edition you get 1 year warranty all AIB cards you get 3 years." ?

stoic island
#

ahhh I'm so confused

foggy hazel
#

i am, i am looking at numbers right now

#

3

deep skiff
#

bryce did u not read

stoic island
#

on z490 gaming x

foggy hazel
#

i would really really appreciate if you actually checked your sources @neon condor

stoic island
#

I know some z490 board advertise pcie 4.0 and they can't do 4.0 and stuff

#

but does this not do 3.0 for some reason or something???

foggy hazel
#

it should not. but again, the weak link is the tags in the PCPP database

stoic island
#

I see

deep skiff
#

it doesnt have 4.0

foggy hazel
#

which makes the PCPP data flip out, because it does not understand "backwards comp"

shell wind
#

@stoic island hi im back the first thing on amazon is no longer avalible and a lot more '

stoic island
#

hey what

#

which ones are out of stock?

#

We can find replacements for whatever is out of stock