#building-and-recc-chat

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little osprey
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thats what i said

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not the ll120s

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but the o11 or o11d

stoic island
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Ll120 fans are notoriously expensive

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So I'm just saying

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It's a big budget

little osprey
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good psu

thorny bronze
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I spent 3000 on mine lol

stoic island
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I'm talking Corsair ll120s btw

little osprey
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^

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he can go 2tb nvme and lose ssd

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get better ram

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cl 16 3600mhz

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with trident z

stoic island
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Make new list plz

little osprey
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2x8 or 2x16

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ok

thorny bronze
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Me make a new list?

karmic briar
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Is this the good place to ask difference between two motherboards?

thorny bronze
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Sure why not

little osprey
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its a 100 pounds extra

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if its 2 much

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u can switch the case

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also this doesn't inculde monitors so the person should know it will cost more

thorny bronze
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So why does he need to buy another hard drive if he already has one

little osprey
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also i am from Canada

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go with b550 f gaming wifi

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it has different vrm

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but same thermal result

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thats what i did

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i was gonna go b550 e gaming

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until i learned the b550 f gaming wifi

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has same thermals

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and basically same everything

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except one usb 3.2 gen 1 is 3.1 gen 1

thorny bronze
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Also. not trying to be a pain lol. would a 256 m.2 and a 1tb ssd be better. I mean its more storage its fast and it cost less than a 970 evo plus

little osprey
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in canada the 970 evo plus 1tb would be cheaper

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than what u said

little leaf
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Why would u get a 9900k

thorny bronze
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ahh he is in UK

little osprey
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yea so i used canada experiance there

little leaf
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A 9900m is worse than a 10600k

little osprey
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u learn something everyday

thorny bronze
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I have a 9900k and I love mine nothing wrong with it

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thats true haha

little osprey
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A 9900m is worse than a 10600k
@little leaf budget problems

little leaf
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What

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The 10600k is cheaper

deep skiff
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ya the z390+9900k is like £570 10600k+mobo should be cheaper

little leaf
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^

deep skiff
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idk much about z490 but even a nice board would be cheaper

thorny bronze
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which one has more performance tho

deep skiff
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10600k

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if u tune it and have good ram like the one i put in u can pretty much match the 10900k

little leaf
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Nachos

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The samsung ssd though

deep skiff
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no i just changed the cpu/mobo

little osprey
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and the ram

little leaf
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Oh change the ssd

little osprey
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u can go z390

deep skiff
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im too lazy to fix the build :v

little osprey
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i think that would be better

little leaf
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What

deep skiff
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z390 doesnt work on the 10600k and the ram is far better

little leaf
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10600k inst on z390

little osprey
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ok

thorny bronze
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lol. I have a 256m.2 and a 1tb ssd in the other one and it costs 25 more

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more storage and more ram

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16gb more

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and its 3600

little leaf
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Look at th mp34

deep skiff
thorny bronze
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already has a hdd doesnt need another one

little osprey
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how many gb?

thorny bronze
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2tb

deep skiff
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well imagine there isnt a hard drive there then

little osprey
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ok good

little leaf
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that case is pricey

thorny bronze
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ram is still slower haha. its alright. I figuared it out. Thanks @little osprey for the help

little leaf
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lmao no it isn't

deep skiff
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yeah normal o11 stock is messed up

little osprey
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ok welcome

little leaf
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3200 cl 14 is better

deep skiff
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b dieeeeeee baybe

little osprey
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lol

little leaf
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I wish I had b die

deep skiff
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that ram is like the best 16gb kit rn for a decent price

thorny bronze
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but its 3200

deep skiff
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yes cl14

thorny bronze
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unless I looked at it wrong

deep skiff
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people get that kit to 3800cl15 or 14

little osprey
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the higher the mhz

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the higher the cl

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most of the time

deep skiff
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the best b die is usually at 3200cl14 3600cl16 isnt the best binned b die

little osprey
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what bout ryzen if i go ryzen

deep skiff
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just run it at 3600cl14 or something

little leaf
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oh sht i'm vip now

little osprey
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cool

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just run it at 3600cl14 or something
@deep skiff which ram the 3200mhz or do i overclock 3600mhz ram

deep skiff
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the 3200mhz

little osprey
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ok

deep skiff
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if u dont wanna mess around in the bios or anything just get the 3600cl16 kit for plug and play

little osprey
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ok

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i am gonna go to sleep

deep skiff
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the 3200mhz kit is wayy better for manual overclocking and tuning

little osprey
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gotta do something trw in the morning

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gn

deep skiff
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gn

karmic briar
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@little osprey Thanks for the advice. Is it worth the wifi?

opal mauve
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Dose anyone have the rog b550 e or f in here

little osprey
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@wide sparrow is this psu enough?

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And I'll replace the 3600x with a regular 3600

wide sparrow
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Not really

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I would go 750 or 850

little osprey
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Ok

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Any specific ones?

wide sparrow
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As a Corsair owner...rmx850

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It's a great psu

little osprey
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Ok and for 750w?

wide sparrow
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Fully modular

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Rmx750

little osprey
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Ok thanks

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And is the r5 3600 enough?

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Or go I go with the 3700x

wide sparrow
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There's other great psus but there's nothing worth with the one I recommended

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3700x for sure if u have the money

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Or

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3800xt

deep skiff
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id wait until the 3600 is at a normal price if ur not gonna go 3700x

wide sparrow
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But the performance tho

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The 3700x is better with more cores

deep skiff
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3600/x isnt a good buy rn

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either go 3700x or wait until the 3600 is at like 160

stoic island
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@wide sparrow 650w should do fine lol

wide sparrow
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Eh

stoic island
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:p

wide sparrow
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But just to be safe (:

stoic island
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Remember, even if 300w tdp

wide sparrow
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Ok

stoic island
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That's around 500w total system draw

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Not even really close to 650w

wide sparrow
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True

deep skiff
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overclockinggggggggg

wide sparrow
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^

deep skiff
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1600w or bust

wide sparrow
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Or just 850

deep skiff
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850w is overkill just get 750w and be done with it

wide sparrow
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He's not going to get a kingpin card lol

stoic island
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So you're gonna make your components draw 15% more than what they're designed for?
I doubt that's gonna happen without some hard core stuff

wide sparrow
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Yeah just 750 like what I have

deep skiff
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shunt moddinggggggg

little osprey
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So all in all if the 3600 goes back to normal stuff it will do fine?

deep skiff
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custom vbiossssss

stoic island
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Yes

little osprey
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Ok thanks

stoic island
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Point is, 3080 tdp was listed as like 265w or something I forgot

wide sparrow
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Really

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So the 320 is when overclocked?

stoic island
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It's not gonna draw more than 650w total

little osprey
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So a 750w is perfect?

stoic island
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Might've remember 3070 tdp I forgot

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I'd go 650w

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No reason to go 750w imo

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Even with a large OC

wide sparrow
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We need some articles, mr111

deep skiff
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futureproof :(

stoic island
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I'll grab Nvidia specs ick

deep skiff
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suggested is 750w from nvidia

wide sparrow
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So the 320....is when overclocked?????

deep skiff
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no

wide sparrow
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Like I need answers

little osprey
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Ight so I'll go 750w lol and wait for 3600 to go back to normal price

deep skiff
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320 is the tdp under load

wide sparrow
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Mmm

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K

stoic island
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Remembered wrong specs

wide sparrow
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Full load I presume

deep skiff
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yesss

stoic island
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Still just around 550w under full synthetic load

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Full system power draw

wide sparrow
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That's very good

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I'm glad Intel didn't make these cards

deep skiff
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furmarkkkk

stoic island
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650w PSU would do fine

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Furmark doesn't pull that much more :p

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It can go a bit beyond tdp tho iirc

wide sparrow
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Mmmm

deep skiff
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furmark melts gpus

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scary

wanton mauve
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so this chat is for talking about PC builds right?

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because I'm working on one but im new

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I have this so far, I have a 550w power supply already and I'm getting a hardrive from a friend

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is this build good

midnight matrix
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I would say so

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But I don’t know much

wanton mauve
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ok thanks

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should I wait for the 3070 to come out incase of a GPU price drop

wide sparrow
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Ik for sure there's better ssds than that

deep skiff
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its canada btw

wide sparrow
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Wd black sn750 is a good one...

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O

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Lol

vital warren
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just get a crucial p1

wide sparrow
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Uuuugh

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Not the best

deep skiff
vital warren
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crucial p1 is fine lol

cursive wharf
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p1 is meh, pay the like $10 for much better

vital warren
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yeah true

desert gulch
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How much better is p2 than p1?

potent prairie
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Wd black sn750 is a good one...
Or mp34

wide sparrow
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Ye

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Or the sabrent rocket

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Awesome ssd

potent prairie
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Sabrent Rocket is good too, but don't accidentally get the Q model

wide sparrow
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Lol

potent prairie
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I did that lol

wide sparrow
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Yep

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Oh snap

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Why

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And how

potent prairie
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I didn't know the difference

wide sparrow
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Wow man. Well you returned it?

potent prairie
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It was a while back

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I resold it

wide sparrow
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Ok cool

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I always recommended the sab because I have it lol

potent prairie
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But yeah lol, the q makes a difference

wide sparrow
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For sure

potent prairie
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It has good specs but generally isn't the cheapest

wide sparrow
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True

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But If u don't care just get it

potent prairie
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Yeah, better than like a 970

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I'm pretty sure they cost less for better speeds and eqv specs elsewhere

swift elk
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hey I need an opinion on a build

mortal rampart
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@swift elk send the link vrother

swift elk
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sent

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wont let me send on here so I sent it to you directly

mortal rampart
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dont build that @swift elk

swift elk
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why?

mortal rampart
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thats so old bruhh

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outdated parts

swift elk
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it doesnt seem old

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which parts specifically?

mortal rampart
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that processor is olddd

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no upgradability

swift elk
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the i7?

mortal rampart
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and that upgrade path you do have amd is selling a $120 equivalent

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yes

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and if you wanted current gen you'd have to upgrade that and the mb

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and we're on the verge of getting the new cards so i wouldn't get last gen personally

swift elk
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hm

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I really want a gaming PC and even though this is older I think itd last me

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i dont care much for keeping up with the jones'

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Im just tired of trying to run games on my surface pro 4 lmao

mortal rampart
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you could get something for cheaper if not about the same for better

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2080s are going for pretty cheap rn

swift elk
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for around $950?

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a full build?

mortal rampart
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if i were to buy a last gen card i'd get at least a 2070s

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yes lmao

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lemme pyo

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hol up

swift elk
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pyo? lol

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its a 2060 super founders

mortal rampart
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put you on**

swift elk
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ah okay haha

mortal rampart
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you could get a 2070s

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used ofc but you seem to be fine with buying used

swift elk
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yeah Im fine with that

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trying to be cheap lol

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but want a decent build

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all the 2070 supers I see are around $500

mortal rampart
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hol up maynn i gotta look rq

swift elk
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okay okay Ill be patient haha

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appreciate the help

mortal rampart
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bruh these prices are so inflated rn

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@swift elk

swift elk
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right

mortal rampart
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the same processor i have i bought it for like $180 with tax

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is going $220 rn

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in actual pain rn

swift elk
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hm

mortal rampart
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ya but heres a 2070s

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nice price

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thats the only one lmao

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all the others sold so fast lmao

swift elk
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hm

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idk im still heavily considering that other pc

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sure I may have to upgrade the CPU and MB but I dont think Ill have to do that too soon

mortal rampart
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ur gonna want to lmao

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its an addiction

swift elk
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hmmmm

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Idk lol Ive had my surface pro 4 for years and an xbox one S lol

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I think Im pretty good at holding out on upgrading lol

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also still have an iphone 7 lmaooooo

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as much as it pains me

mortal rampart
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broo

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thats pain

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as soon i made money i upgraded

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hang on lemme look for a built one

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prices are too inflated to actually make a good deal

swift elk
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okayyyyy

mortal rampart
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i found one

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but no watercooling

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wait hol up

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i did

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the gpu go back and forth with the 2060s

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buutttt

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thats a better processor

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its a pain i cant help peepoSadSip

swift elk
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taking a look

mortal rampart
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and it does have watercooling

little osprey
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Prebuilt? SeriousEgg

mortal rampart
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have to brother

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you seen those r5 3600 prices??

swift elk
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I found that PC on newegg its a cyberpowerpc

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its decent

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I might put a bid on it haha

little leaf
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Its a fine pc

mortal rampart
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ya

swift elk
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which one? the ryzen 7 one?

mortal rampart
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ya he prolly talkin about that

little leaf
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Probably bad mobo

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Bad ram

mortal rampart
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^^

little leaf
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Bad psu

mortal rampart
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thats the only thing

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but those old gen parts im just cringing since new stuff is coming back

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and the upgrade path is nonexistent

little leaf
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So i would guess like a build with little upgradability

mortal rampart
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but its not a bad pc

swift elk
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so should I go with the one I put together on pcbuilder or the cyberpowerpc

little osprey
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But you could do a lot better just building
Your money would go way further

mortal rampart
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you cant bruh

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i put it at $1000 limit

swift elk
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thats pretty much my budget

mortal rampart
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@little osprey peep those inflated prices on pcpp

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you cant

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it just all adds up

little osprey
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Well I'll take your word for it

mortal rampart
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ya its not good rn

little osprey
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Never heard of prices being inflated to the point your can't build your own but I'm new

mortal rampart
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the r5 3600 is $40 overpriced

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thats $40 towards any other part

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and that doesnt even include shipping and tax

little leaf
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10400

little osprey
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Sure
Just make sure you know what your getting

little leaf
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And cheap z490

mortal rampart
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^^

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this is true

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but we stay

little osprey
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10600

mortal rampart
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amd gang

little leaf
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Guys

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Ever hear of the 10500

mortal rampart
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just get 9th gen and i wont be cringing

little leaf
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Cause thats a thing no

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Get your 10500

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I say wait for amda new gpu and cpu

swift elk
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all Im seeing is a bunch of numbers lol

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I can wait

little leaf
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Can you want till after October?

swift elk
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I dont need to do aything right at this moment

little leaf
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Ok cool

swift elk
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yeah, I still have my xbox one S lol which I do most of my gaming on

mortal rampart
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ya

little leaf
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Zen 3 big navi and rtx 300

mortal rampart
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give it time

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it'll be worth it

swift elk
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and Ill probably make $20k between oct-dec

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so my budget will def increase

mortal rampart
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ayo??

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wyd for a job bruh

swift elk
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sales

mortal rampart
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i need that

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sales?

swift elk
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mhm

mortal rampart
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what kind

swift elk
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medicare supps

mortal rampart
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link?

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i need that

swift elk
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lol Idk if were hiring wherever you are lol

mortal rampart
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texas

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texas gang

swift elk
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ayeee

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I have a friend whos attending UNT

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Ill check if were hirirng by you lmao

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This is all OT for this chat though lol

mortal rampart
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its all for the xp

swift elk
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but yeah I can def wait until after october to build my own

mortal rampart
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dang bruh

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i need real work

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working at dairy queen sucks

swift elk
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dudeeeee

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lets take this to general chat

mortal rampart
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okok

night iron
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You couldn't put the GPU power cords underneath the motherboard cut out? @lucid dew

lucid dew
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@night iron It would block the RGB on the XPG SSD drive 😋

magic drum
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Hey, so I'm thinking about buying parts to build a starter gaming computer, but I might want to upgrade it later, so I was wondering what's a good motherboard that could handle lower end and higher end parts? or maybe most motherboards do?

lucid dew
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@magic drum Get a B550 Ryzen motherboard. Confirmed to handle next Gen too series Ryzen and previous Ryzen 2000 and 3000 series.

magic drum
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@lucid dew is it compatible with GeForce?

lucid dew
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Of course

magic drum
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Great, thanks!

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lucid dew
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It’s a little too budget. Wouldn’t buy from Best Buy either. Get a Steel Legend from ASRock.

magic drum
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Ok, so my current case (case I'm thinking of buying) is a micro motherboard case, would you recommend looking for a different motherboard, or different case.

little osprey
lucid dew
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I have a MicroATX case and an AsRock B559 Steel Legend board. Love it!

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B550 ^

woven wedge
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So will b450 motherboards drop in price with the new gpus needing pcie gen 4 to have full functionality

covert stirrup
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I plan on getting the 3080. I have a 144hz monitor and want to play first person shooters like apex legends and call of duty with video editing. What cpu should i couple with new 3080. I’ve never OC anything but wouldn’t mind learning. Looking for a bare minimum to get 144fps for my 144hz monitor.

little osprey
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@little osprey Thanks for the advice. Is it worth the wifi?
@karmic briar yea get the b550 f gaming wifi the e gaming comes with wifi both boards are the same but have different vrms but the same thermal result. basically the difference is the name and the price

stoic island
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@woven wedge likely not

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Afterall, pretty sure they said minimal differences on 3.0 v 4.0 atm

analog fjord
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I have the b550f and its great so far

lime forge
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i just built with the b550f

whole stag
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I plan on getting it how are temps?

little osprey
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the temps are the same as the e gaming pretty good

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tested with the 3700x

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3800x

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3900x

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3950x

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the f gaming wifi btw

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i am gonna also get it

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dont spend a extra 100 bucks on the e gaming for no reason

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Difference between e and f?

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NVM

little osprey
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@little osprey the vrms are different but the thermal is still the same, the e is basically f but costing more

spark bay
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Posting image for help in the grahpics-cards chat

deep skiff
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do u have the psu box rn?

spark bay
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Yes.

deep skiff
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is there a bag of cables in it?

spark bay
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Sadly I'm not home currently. I'm telling you rn through that I looked back over every cable that came outta that 1000 watt box and theres nothing in there to link this graphics card to the power

little leaf
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Is the psu new?

vapid kernel
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You 100% sure

little leaf
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or used

spark bay
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New. And yes, 100%. The closest thing was this came cable but missing the +2 on the end

little leaf
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what power supply?

spark bay
spark bay
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This is what I need

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I wanna double checking that I'm not buying the wrong thing

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check*

vapid kernel
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That should be in the bag

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Are you 100% sure

little leaf
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I can see them on the picutre on wegg

deep skiff
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ya thats what confusing it should have it

spark bay
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I'm 115% sure. I even check my trash just to make sure I didn't through it out with some plastic or anything.

little leaf
vapid kernel
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Did u yell at customer support

little leaf
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those are daisy chained 6+2

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unless I"m blined

vapid kernel
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Daisy chained should work

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Just connect both

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Sometimes it too short tho

spark bay
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Yes. Originally they said it wasn't their problem but I worded it more as in I didn't get it and then she responded with some actual assistance.

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Can you define daisy chained?

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Is that like those cables that are used to connect hard drivrs?

little leaf
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There are 2 connectors

spark bay
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With multiple ports along the same calbe?

vapid kernel
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Two connectors on one cable

little leaf
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on one end

spark bay
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cable?*

deep skiff
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kinda like the hard drive ones yeah

vapid kernel
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Some daisy Chan’s have them in a line

deep skiff
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it has a single 8 pin from the psu and goes into a 8 pin and 6+2

vapid kernel
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Like that

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Do u see the extra one

spark bay
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Ah gotcha. So if I just plug in two 8 pins into this thing (instead of a 6+2 and a 8 ping) it should work?

vapid kernel
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Yep

little leaf
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it would work either way

deep skiff
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it should work either way yes

spark bay
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Alright well that clears just about everything up. I was watching a build guide and he only had a single 8 pin to plug the cable into like that pic. Kinda threw me for a loop

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I really appreciate all of y'alls help. You guys are legends

vapid kernel
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Sometimes they have that

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No prob homie

deep skiff
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ya depends a lot on the model for the power connectors

spark bay
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Just got a little upset when I spent 2k on this rig just to run into numerous, numerous problems. Especially when NewEgg screwed me on shipping and customer support.

deep skiff
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you could technically run ur card of a single 8 pin if ur smart but id advise not to

spark bay
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I get they're a little stressed rn though

vapid kernel
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Ye don’t

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Ye dude gold luck

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Is this ur first Pc

spark bay
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I'll just get one of those chained cables

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Yes, very much so

vapid kernel
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Here I’ll link one

karmic briar
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Hi everyone, I just checked the compatible memory for my rog strix b550-f gaming wifi motherboard and the largest 4000mhz ddr4 in the qvl is 2x8GB. There is no 2x16GB in the QVL even though g.skill has tridentz and ripjaws v 2x16GB 4000mhz. would those work on the motherboard?

stoic island
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Why?

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@karmic briar what's the reasoning behind getting 4000mhz ram for Ryzen?

woven wedge
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Afterall, pretty sure they said minimal differences on 3.0 v 4.0 atm
@stoic island thanks for the response

deep skiff
#

yeah id just get 3600 or dark pros

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but yes it would work

stoic island
#

The problem there wouldn't just be the motherboard, it would be your chip won't be able to run 1:1 with IF at 2000mhz

karmic briar
#

@stoic island and @deep skiff I read somewhere that the AMD Ryzen 9 3900X CPU is more dependent on the RAM frequency for performance reasons so I’d like to get the 4000 MHz

night iron
#

@void raft The only thing I have to ask is why a red graphics card? It clashes with the purple in the build?

stoic island
#

They do like faster ram

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but they don't really care above 3800mhz

void raft
#

Not red at all. There is a small light from the Decode LED shining@night iron

stoic island
#

Because 1900mhz on the IF is about as high as it likes to OC on most chips

deep skiff
#

ryzen is better to keep it at 3600mhz than 4000, the infinity fabric goes to 2:1 mode at 1800 or 1900 flck which isnt reall best

night iron
#

Okay nice bad boy build though @void raft

karmic briar
#

@stoic island the qvl contains 4000mhz just smaller 8GB

deep skiff
#

unless u got a 4750g pro those things dont care up to like 4400mhz

void raft
#

Thanks. @night iron its a raffle PC to raise funds for my charity.

stoic island
#

It being on the QVL just means it works at the freq, doesn't tell you if it can run IF at 1:1 or not

night iron
#

Cool can’t wait to see your next one @void raft

karmic briar
#

@stoic island I see so no point spending more than 3600mhz?

deep skiff
#

yeah unless ur gonna downclock it and tighten the timings

karmic briar
#

@deep skiff you guys r incredible. I would have never thought that.

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@deep skiff do you have a url to read up on this?

deep skiff
#

which part?

karmic briar
#

The part about the memory frequency on the AMD Ryzen processor

stoic island
#

Yes

karmic briar
#

Is there an AMD processor that would make use of faster memory

stoic island
#

lemme find some articles about IF

karmic briar
#

What is IF?

deep skiff
#

infinity fabric

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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-memory-tweaking-overclocking-guide/3.html this has a little part about it and info about ram in general, might be helpful

karmic briar
#

@deep skiff thanks for the link

deep skiff
#

itll be fine past 3200mhz

stoic island
#

GN did some more in-depth testing, don't just read parts of it and run off, at least read the conclusion on this one.
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3508-ryzen-3000-memory-benchmark-best-ram-fclk-uclock-mclock

karmic briar
#

ok, so what if I want an amd processor that takes advantage of faster memory, what should I look at? I hope you guys don't tell me threadripper... 🙂

deep skiff
#

all the amd chips rn (outside of the oem only new apus) cant really push the infinity fabric over 1800-1900mhz consistently, if you want fast ram id suggest getting a nice kit of samsung b die and overclocking it to like 3800cl15 or 3600cl14

urban light
next kestrel
#

any reason you need that expensive of a cpu cooler?

karmic briar
#

@deep skiff what is rn?

deep skiff
#

right now

urban light
#

any reason you need that expensive of a cpu cooler?
@next kestrel ummm it looksssss sickkkkkkkkkkkkkk

next kestrel
#

sounds fine, if thats an investment youre willing to make

urban light
#

🤷‍♂️

next kestrel
#

also the 970 evo is slightly overpriced, but idk abt european stock

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:PP

urban light
#

Yeah

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Oh

little osprey
#

Thoughts?
@urban light and u could get better ram faster 3600mhz and cl16, 2x8 for the same price or a bit for and u could get 2x16gb

urban light
#

Ok

little osprey
#

i think the 970 evo plus is on sale rn

karmic briar
#

@stoic island and @deep skiff you guys probably will save me a few bucks so I am truly grateful.

little osprey
#

for the same price as 970 evo

urban light
#

Wheeeererree

little osprey
#

on amazon

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but idk bout uk

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but its from samsung

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so check that out

urban light
#

Oh ok

stoic island
#

I'm back

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I'll make you a list

urban light
#

Ok thanks

little osprey
#

change the cpu cooler

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thats what i would do

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🙂

urban light
#

I know but I don’t won’t toooo🥺😫😫

deep skiff
#

cheaper mobo, ssd and cooler and throw in a 3080 ez

urban light
#

I might go for ryzen 4000 depends on pricing tho

little osprey
#

yea

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go b550

stoic island
#

What you using it for

urban light
#

Gaming

little osprey
#

u dont need x570 unless u have more than 1 gpu

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@urban light only gaming

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or other stuff

urban light
#

Mostly

little osprey
#

like photo editing

urban light
#

Revising and some editing

little osprey
#

ok

karmic briar
#

One other question, I have a Ryzen 7 1700 and the output from wmic memorychip list full says that the speed of my 2 DIMS is 2133 when I know I purchased 3200mhz. I do not suspect I got robbed so may just a setting on my bios? rog strix b350-f gaming motherboard.

little osprey
#

u can xmp it

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thats a good mobo

#

btw

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so go into bios

karmic briar
#

or could it be that ryzen 7 1700 requires overclocking to work faster?

little osprey
#

and go to xmp

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and overclocks it

karmic briar
#

what is xmp it?

little osprey
#

basically overclocking memory

stoic island
#

@urban light

little osprey
#

i dont know if ryzen 1 can go to 3200mhz

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let me check

urban light
#

When is the 3070 and amd 4000 series come out

karmic briar
#

ok what should I overclock it to?

urban light
stoic island
#

XMP is what the manufacturer rated the ram for

deep skiff
#

ryzen 1000 and ram is kinda wacky

stoic island
#

yea but I don't think it'll have too much issues with 3200mhz, we'll see tho

deep skiff
#

but yeah just turn docp/xmp on

little osprey
#

i think 2666 is the max

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on the safe side

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but u can test it yourself if u want to take a risk

#

@karmic briar

deep skiff
#

zen was really flaky with ram working compared to zen+ and 2

little osprey
#

add a harddrive @stoic island

karmic briar
#

@little osprey risk it? will it burn or just not boot?

little osprey
#

and maybe u could add 2x16gb

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@little osprey risk it? will it burn or just not boot?
@karmic briar it might crash

deep skiff
#

worst case scenario if it doesnt work with xmp itll crash or u need to clear cmos

little osprey
#

^^yea^^

karmic briar
#

ok, I learned another lesson, I paid $500 in 2018 for 2 DDR4 3200mhz when I did not need it. Double ouch! 🙂

little osprey
#

everyone makes mistakes

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if u dont need it

karmic briar
#

The good news though is I might be able to afford more memory on the new one.

little osprey
#

u could sell

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it

karmic briar
#

It won't fetch more than new and i'd have to replace it with something. Probably not worth it.

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I meant it won't fetch a lot these days.

desert gulch
#

If it's Team Ram, @stoic island would be excited

deep skiff
karmic briar
#

I am looking at g.skill 2x32GB ripjaws v ($300) vs g.skill trident Z neo same letency 18 which one to pick?

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trident Z is $340

desert gulch
#

Both same speed?

karmic briar
#

sorry both 3600mhz

desert gulch
#

What cpu?

karmic briar
#

amd ryzen 9 3900x

#

@deep skiff opinion on the memory?

deep skiff
#

probably the ripjaw kit, but if ur in america theres a ripjaw kit for like 220

karmic briar
#

I am in Canada

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let me check

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@deep skiff i cannot find anything close to 220 are you talking us$?

little osprey
#

@karmic briar i am getting a 3900x or a 4900x

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i am going with a 3600mhz

deep skiff
#

yeah usd i forgot ur were in canada

little osprey
#

cl16

north dagger
#

can someone make me a pc parts list? my budget is $900-1000 pc only. will he used for gaming

little osprey
#

go with ripjaws 5

deep skiff
#

but id go with the cheaper kit if u dont mind the looks

little osprey
#

they are better if u dont are not gonna overclock a lot

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and the looks

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are u getting 2x16

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or 4x8

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as 4x8 costs more

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than the 2x16

karmic briar
#

I am getting 2x32 and don't care on the looks

deep skiff
#

its 64gb not 32

little osprey
#

ok

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then ripjaws v is good

#

are u gonna do xmp

karmic briar
#

I might try slightly.

little osprey
#

than ripjaws is good

karmic briar
#

when it depends without xmp will the memory run at 3600mhz on ryzen 9 3900x?

little osprey
#

if u are gonna do it heavily then go with trident

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sometimes it will sometimes not

#

but when u xmp to 3600mhz

deep skiff
#

without xmp its gonna run at 2133 or whatever it is

little osprey
#

and leave it

deep skiff
#

^

little osprey
#

thats fine

#

but if ur gonna keep doing it

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then go trident

deep skiff
#

thats how u get it to 3600 just click the button

little osprey
#

^

karmic briar
#

is it possible it is unstable at 3600mhz? In that case i could stick to 3200mhz (not a big difference)

little osprey
#

ryzen its better at 3600mhz

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and u are going 3900x

#

so 3600mhz is kinda needed

#

ripjaws will be stable

#

unless u get a lemon

fair dagger
#

My ripjaws were affordable and are great 2x16

little osprey
#

^

#

i am going trident z

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cuz i am gnna oc a lot

#

my second choice is ripjaws v

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trident z rgb btw

#

no neo or royal

fair dagger
#

I still need to post some pics of my build. It's been like a month since I put it together.

little osprey
#

those are out of my budget

#

yea show it off

fair dagger
#

It's so sloppy and my cable management sucks butt

little osprey
#

its ur build 🙂

fair dagger
#

True enough

#

My first

shut tapir
#

anyone have the s2?

stoic island
#

@desert gulch I'd love some dark pros

deep skiff
#

@stoic island what about vulkans

stoic island
#

screw em

#

Vulcan SSD is nice

fair dagger
#

Any feedback or advice would be awesomn

#

awesome*

#

Like I said this is my first build and I'd like to continue to upgrade in the future.

stoic island
#

Can't say much without knowing specs

fair dagger
#

ahh true

stoic island
#

Kinda have a bad feeling that looks like a MSI rx480 card :P

fair dagger
#

Ryzen 5 3600

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msi readon rx 570

#

ripjaw 16g x 2

stoic island
#

2x16gb???

fair dagger
#

1T WD blue ssd

#

yeah 32 gbs total ram

#

oh and evga 750w gold ps

stoic island
#

GPU is pretty underpowered for gaming and such

fair dagger
#

I got everything from newegg

#

I know. I don't know jack about computers and just wanted to build one.

#

I can run pretty much everything I play just fine

#

the motherboard is a msi tomahawk b550

#

also the gpu is crossfire enabled

#

so I could always add another

#

i suppose

stoic island
#

I only see 1

#

Crossfire and SLI are kinda dead nowadays

fair dagger
#

There's only one in there for now

desert gulch
#

Yeah

foggy hazel
#

please dont ever do that @fair dagger

stoic island
#

so unless you already have 2, don't

fair dagger
#

haha cool

#

thanks for the advice

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I'll likely upgrade within the year

#

to a better card

desert gulch
#

For the 3000 series, You can only do sli on the 3090.

foggy hazel
#

@desert gulch and that does not change the fact that SLI/Crossfire is NOT for consumers.

desert gulch
#

Yeah

stoic island
#

NVLink/SLI/Crossfire is for them workstations

desert gulch
#

Or for a big flex

#

To your friends lol

foggy hazel
#

or the benchmark crazies

fair dagger
#

lol

stoic island
#

for K|np|n

fair dagger
#

So I'd be better off just selling this gpu and upgrading to a beefier one huh?

stoic island
#

When upgrading, yes.

fair dagger
#

I'll keep that in mind for sure. After building this thing I noticed my gpu was lacking

foggy hazel
#

you have a solid foundation.

#

so be happy about that.

stoic island
#

Everything but the GPU seems good.

#

What speed is the ram?

desert gulch
#

Yeah I have sli going on my 760's

#

Just kidding

#

I have a friend that does tho

fair dagger
#

I'll have to double check my ram speed. My power just went out due to storms so I had to switch over to mobile discord lol

#

That's the ram I have in there

foggy hazel
#

yeah, that is okay, as i said earlier, its a solid foundation

junior wigeon
#

Hey I’m thinking about building a gaming pc, but I don’t really know anything about it, could I get some help?

foggy hazel
#

ask what you want to know about. And if someone has the knowledge/time to answer, they will.

fair dagger
#

Awesome, thanks for the moral support guys lol.

#

@junior wigeon I was the same way. I posted pics of my 1st build above. Just make sure you get a nice GPU... lol

north dagger
#

can someone make me a pc parts list? my budget is $900-1000 pc only. will he used for gaming

#

I am buying parts this week

opal mauve
#

my mobo did not come with mobo screws where can i get them

autumn wolf
#

they come with the case

knotty kite
#

Hello

#

Im working on saving up for a PC (Not a pre built) It will be a massive upgrade from what I have Rn

vivid flume
#

kewl

#

i just upgraded on my birthday (aug 30) and 2 days later 3000 series released

#

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

foggy hazel
#

except, they didnt release

elfin burrow
#

plus there's no guarantee you would get one right away once they do go on sale

rough hornet
#

ok i tried another hdd

#

and i wasnt getting a problem with that one so i guess its just the wegg one is a bad one

#

how long is the warrenty on the barracuda hdd

foggy hazel
#

depends on the model, so google it @rough hornet and look at their website

rough hornet
#

do i have to return this one?

foggy hazel
#

look it up :)

rough hornet
#

becuase im not paying for shipping for somthing they damaged

#

ill look into it on wegg

foggy hazel
#

"they" damaged?

rough hornet
#

its sold by seagate

#

yea the hdd was most likely damaged in the shipping process

#

bruh 30% restocking fee and 15% return fee wth

little leaf
#

Not if ita broken

rough hornet
#

i honestly doubt its broken

#

like it works 100% when in use it works fine too

#

just when idle it make that noise every 4 secs

little osprey
#

Broken hard drive go brrr tink rrrrr

foggy hazel
#

i cannot make you read what was written already @rough hornet

rough hornet
#

ik what u said i just dont want to deal with a dead drive honestly

#

i might buy a new one from amazon and return this one in that box and say doa

little osprey
#

Go smash it and say it broke in shipping lol

rough hornet
#

lol

#

boom on arrival

#

honstly ive never seen this chat be sooo dead

foggy hazel
#

this chat is only really active when there are people that have a problem.

stoic island
#

This chat being dead can mean a good thing :D

foggy hazel
#

correct

stoic island
#

Or those in need can't find this discord :(

foggy hazel
rough hornet
stoic island
#

As in this server

#

2% usage wut

#

Is dragon center having a stroke?

rough hornet
#

ryzen 9 3900x is 100% wow

foggy hazel
#

they are updating on different cycles.

rough hornet
#

im not even doing anything intense

stoic island
#

I mean 2% even on idle seems pretty low

#

Confusing

rough hornet
#

my task maganger is 100 for the past 4 hours

calm crypt
#

Hey guys so I gotta quick question something I just realized so I’m working on that optiplex but it’s a small form factor so it only takes low pro cards. If I’m not closing the side panel do u thing a single fan card would fit

stoic island
#

Open up Ryzen master maybe?

rough hornet
#

ryzen master?

stoic island
#

Check it there

foggy hazel
#

@calm crypt its the bracket, that is going to be your main challenge.

rough hornet
#

never heard of that

stoic island
#

Am I remembering the name wrong?

rough hornet
#

i might honestly factory reset

calm crypt
#

@calm crypt its the bracket, that is going to be your main challenge.
@foggy hazel oh yep gotcha

stoic island
#

The AMD Ryzen tool

calm crypt
#

Nah It’s ryzen master

rough hornet
#

brb lettme try it out

#

here

#

welp

#

factory rest it is maybe i have intalled a virus

#

or somthing its also giving hardrive issues

wheat coral
#

black or white @prisma stag

prisma stag
#

black

wheat coral
#

good

foggy hazel
#

@rough hornet have a serious look at the actual usage numbers in your task manager.

rough hornet
#

meaning?

#

is it really bad

foggy hazel
#

open your task manager.

rough hornet
#

ok

#

now what

#

here

foggy hazel
#

now click to the performance tab

rough hornet
#

now what

foggy hazel
#

specifically, the drive one

#

that "ticking" hdd you have

rough hornet
#

ok

foggy hazel
#

is it actually active right now?

rough hornet
#

no its not

foggy hazel
#

next, start by closing some of the random programs you have running

rough hornet
#

ok

wheat coral
foggy hazel
#

and also, post a picture with the performance tab sorted by "cpu"

rough hornet
#

ok

wheat coral
#

mr naed rate that pc

stoic island
#

might want them to change to logical processors too

wheat coral
#

a tier psu btw dont need to check

#

made sure lmao

stoic island
#

160$

#

wtf

little leaf
#

@wheat coral wtf is that

stoic island
#

why is it so expensive

rough hornet
wheat coral
#

lol i knew psu was too much lmao

little leaf
#

Thats psu helle over priced

stoic island
#

Ion+ 760w is cheaper

rough hornet
#

their

stoic island
#

like come on

#

:P

little leaf
#

Samsung ssd?

#

D15 for 3700x

stoic island
#

What's with the CPU

foggy hazel
#

sorry, i misspoke on that @rough hornet i meant the Process tab

stoic island
#

D15 is fine imo

#

good cooler is always nice

little leaf
#

Nono

#

But like for a 3700x?

rough hornet
#

so u wanna see the cpu ?

little leaf
#

Kinda over kill

stoic island
#

Still fine

prisma stag
#

will that build let me play games like battlefield on high settings?

stoic island
#

I run a D15 on my 3800x

wheat coral
#

a cool cpu is good hapapy cpu

little leaf
#

You could het a 3080 with that money though

rough hornet
#

what did u want me to do

little leaf
#

Or at least now a 2080s

foggy hazel
#

no, i want to see the process tab, sorted by Cpu (click the row that is labelled cpu)

stoic island
#

I love the D15 for the doctrine of being able to keep the cooler for multiple CPUs :P

#

I'll make some changes

little leaf
#

All Im saying you can get a better build for the money

#

I cant do that right noe because im on molbile

wheat coral
#

why i ran it through you guys lmao

foggy hazel
wheat coral
#

im helping gram

foggy hazel
#

like that, but the whole window like earlier

prisma stag
#

would that build let me play games like battlefield on highest settings?

wheat coral
#

oh yeah lmao

#

just wait not done yet

little leaf
#

Mr111

#

Is making a list rn

stoic island
rough hornet
#

oh i c

stoic island
#

Yes

rough hornet
stoic island
#

what's the reasoning behind 3700x again?

rough hornet
#

here

#

look at the top @foggy hazel

stoic island
#

@rough hornet Click where it says "100% CPU"

wheat coral
#

@prisma stag you will need to wait for a few more days to order if you can

stoic island
#

that'll sort it by processes that uses the most of your CPU

foggy hazel
#

@rough hornet no, see the arrow on the picture i posted

prisma stag
#

yes i have time

wheat coral
#

the 3080 comes out soon

#

besure to book mark that

rough hornet
stoic island
#

@wheat coral why do they have a 3700x in the list? what they tryna do?

rough hornet
#

their

wheat coral
#

8 cores future proof lmao

stoic island
#

What's the budget?

wheat coral
#

3080 also future proof

#

1500

stoic island
#

eh a little bit over

prisma stag
#

is the 3080 good?

stoic island
#

but my list works

little leaf
#

Future proof is a strong word

rough hornet
#

idk what it doing worng

wheat coral
#

3080 is flagship this year so yes @prisma stag

stoic island
#

I'll be back

foggy hazel
#

@rough hornet you actually using zoom atm?

prisma stag
#

those motherboards that say wifi

stoic island
prisma stag
#

do i have to get a wifi accessory

little leaf
#

No

prisma stag
#

o ok sweet

stoic island
#

If it says wifi, it's got wifi built in

prisma stag
#

i dont have ethernet cable so

wheat coral
#

@prisma stag i highly recommend an ethernet cable if you can

#

literally 8$ for 25ft long

stoic island
#

Anyways use ma list

prisma stag
#

no i mean like a wall thing to plug into

wheat coral
#

oh you not close to router

prisma stag
#

no =[

wheat coral
#

while wifi is fine

rough hornet
#

@foggy hazel yes lol i have 3 hours to do some essay i finished already

#

so im chillin

prisma stag
#

thanks alot @wheat coral

#

and @stoic island

wheat coral
#

thank mr1111 he fixed it

rough hornet
#

but i gotta fix this i dont want a this to be a virus

wheat coral
#

run a malware bytes scan @rough hornet

calm crypt
#

If u not close to WiFi get an extender it’s still better than WiFi on mobo

wheat coral
#

1st thing to do once you notice something is off

prisma stag
#

hey guys i got one last question

wheat coral
#

yeah?

prisma stag
#

is installing windows hard for a new pc

#

like

#

no cd drive so

wheat coral
#

nope

rough hornet
#

no

wheat coral
#

ez

little leaf
#

No

calm crypt
#

Nah it’s pretty easy

rough hornet
#

plug and turn on

#

simple

prisma stag
#

well when i build this i might get discord on my phone incase i run into trouble

#

im so dumb with this stuff

rough hornet
#

ok

#

were all hre

#

here

calm crypt
#

We were all dumb in the beginning bud you’ll learn fast

rough hornet
#

@foggy hazel can you help me

#

what can i do

foggy hazel
#

if you are not able to close down zoom, nothing i can do at the moment.

prisma stag
#

what do u guys use to protect ur pc? like do yall keep it in safe mode or got some badd ass antivirus?

rough hornet
#

it was doing the same thing before zoom]]

foggy hazel
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i can only go by what i can see.

rough hornet
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i finish zoom at 4:00 tho

stoic island
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Get Malwarebytes and do a run

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Just in case

calm crypt
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what do u guys use to protect ur pc? like do yall keep it in safe mode or got some badd ass antivirus?
@prisma stag I use avast

rough hornet
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i need 20 min to finish class then

foggy hazel
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and by the logic of "dont trust a user to know their head from their feet" .... i can only go by what i can see.

calm crypt
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U can get like a 2 year ultimate protection for 20 bucks if u know where to look lol

stoic island
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I like Malwarebytes most, but common sense is best protection

rough hornet
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here in 20 min we can discord call and ill screenshare

stoic island
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All major antiviruses afaik have some problems

rough hornet
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ill do it in genral one

foggy hazel
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"i finish zoom at 4:00 tho" <- this tells me nothing :) timezones are a thing :)

rough hornet
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im west

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gimme 2omis

stoic island
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WUs?

rough hornet
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20mins

calm crypt
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Just don’t use mcaffe it slows u down bad

foggy hazel
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and that tells me nothing still

stoic island
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West us?

rough hornet
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imma be done in 20 min i live in cali

stoic island
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There

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Pst

rough hornet
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pst

calm crypt
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Pacific standard time

rough hornet
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t-17mins

foggy hazel
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@rough hornet i must admit, i find it fascinating that you automatically assume that i have the time :)

rough hornet
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oh

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well

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idk

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lmk when ur free