#building-and-recc-chat

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vocal hare
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It's 8 dollars difference rn

ripe wedge
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the x just has slightly higher clock

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o

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well could change

vocal hare
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And the 3600x comes with the spire cooler

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Instead of the stealth

ripe wedge
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didnt know they were that close in price rn

vocal hare
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Yeah it's why j wouldn't buy a 3600 rn

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In July it was like 150

ripe wedge
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used to be like $150

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yea

vocal hare
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Should gotten it

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Should've*

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Probably the price it'll hit once 4000 series hits

ripe wedge
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they rumored 4000 to be announced at the end of this month

vocal hare
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2600 is around 139 rn

ripe wedge
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at a conference

vocal hare
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Please be true

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What conference

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Need to set a date

ripe wedge
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hold up let me find it

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its sept 28 -29 I think

vocal hare
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Hmm aight but that don't tell me the conference to watch

ripe wedge
cursive wharf
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@little leaf I'm attempting to go to sleep, so not for some fair hours, if a build hasn't already been made

ripe wedge
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so computex

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doesnt look good

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canceled in red

vocal hare
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Soof

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Oof*

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I cri

ripe wedge
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rona messing everything up

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messing up my education too

near garden
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And prices for parts

ripe wedge
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and quantity

vocal hare
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Tbh I wouldn't mind an Intel build but I like the features for mobo price

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Of AMD

ripe wedge
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yea

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amd also has pcie 4.0

vocal hare
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I feel like cheap AMD boards are nicer than lower end z490

ripe wedge
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lol

vocal hare
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By cheap I mean like b450 and 550

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But honestly I feel like you get more for the price

ripe wedge
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I have a A320M ASRock mobo in my pc I built for my brother and it can do everything but oc cpu

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but yea amd is great

vocal hare
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For my brothers I just went cheap b50

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450

ripe wedge
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I would have but I got my cpu,ram,mobo, and cooler in a bundle

vocal hare
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Still quite a bit of nice features

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Ah

ripe wedge
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yep was $60

vocal hare
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For one of my brothers I got a 1600 for 85 a lil before 1600af release

ripe wedge
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for ryzen 3 1300x, a320m, t2 coolermaster cooler, and 1x8gb ddr4 2400 ram

vocal hare
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Not like I could've got him one anyway

ripe wedge
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o nice

vocal hare
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Wish I could gotten a better case for him

ripe wedge
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yea I got my brother a case the same price as his pc basically lol

vocal hare
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But low on budget already

ripe wedge
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got a coolermaster mb320l

vocal hare
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Got a real cheap case

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Like extra cheap

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Like 25 dollars cheap

ripe wedge
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like cougar cheap cheap?

vocal hare
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Didn't want to skimp on other parts

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And his stuff isn't exactly hot parts

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Just a 1600 and 570

ripe wedge
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o and I forgot the A320M had an m.2 slot

vocal hare
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570 doesn't get too hot

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Usually caps at 75

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Think the highest I've seen it is 77

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But I'm not monitoring it all the time

ripe wedge
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the cpu on my r3 1300x build idles at around 30c and high of 50c

vocal hare
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1600 doesn't pass 50

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Actually 51

ripe wedge
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o an rx570?

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thats not bad

vocal hare
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Yeah I got a cheaper used one on ebay

near garden
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I’m getting a used 2060 and I think the mobo is over priced right now

ripe wedge
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I got a $75 gtx 970 for my brothers build

vocal hare
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But it failed like few weeks in

ripe wedge
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asus strix model

vocal hare
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So I found a $100 570 on wegg

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That's the one that runs at 75c cap

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Lil louder than the first

ripe wedge
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o I had to repaste the gtx 970

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it was a mess

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had to clean it thoroughly

vocal hare
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My other brother had a gpu faikure

ripe wedge
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oof

vocal hare
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So I used the opportunity to upgrade him to am4

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3400g rhough

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But it works just fine

ripe wedge
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welp imma slep

potent prairie
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Why? It's only 3:57AM here

near garden
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3:00 am here

analog hearth
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@vocal hare though*

formal axle
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@bronze helm I didn’t! But I found out that it’s the fans. I plugged in a different fan that just stays blue and it worked the fan and the lights

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I think the thermaltake I got are all bad

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I watched a review and people have had issues with them in the past.

small heron
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Is it bad
That my motherboard is being held by one screw

mighty quarry
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I dont know much about computers and I'm looking to build myself a new one (cause the one I have now is crap) and i would like some feedback on my parts

-$440-RYZEN 9 3900X CPU-

-$85-G.SKILL Trident Z RGB Ram-

-$75-MSI X570-A PRO Motherboard-

-$80-NZXT h510 Case-

-$700-RTX 3080 Graphics Card-

-$150-Western Digital WD BLACK-

-$70-Power Supply-

-$50-Anidees AI Aureola V2 Case Fans-

-$110-Windows Ten Home-

little osprey
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What mhz is the ram

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You should put all those on pc part picker
Easier to see what specific stuff you picked

mighty quarry
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3600

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and thanks, I just have the links in a google doc right now

foggy hazel
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@mighty quarry 3600 cl16?

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also, those prices seem "off" by a fair bit. But you should notice that yourself when you get it all plugged into pcpartpicker

little osprey
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does anyone have a fix for a new motherboard not reading drives as being bootable

mighty quarry
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thanks

deep skiff
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also just buy windows off ebay for like $5

little osprey
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windows is installed on the ssd but the motherboard bios wont detect that the ssd is even readable

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it can read the name and amount of storage though

stoic island
lusty glacier
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I'm ordering some cables from cablemod and I'm a little unsure of what to get for GPU. If I get a fe 3080 the 12 pin adapter is included, but if I don't I'll need three 8 pin cables right?

cunning flume
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Hello everyone, im looking to build the cheapest VR ready pc using the RTX 3070, any tips or recommendations?

stoic island
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@lusty glacier I'd say you might want to wait for people to actually try using custom cables with FE 30xx

lusty glacier
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Fair

foggy hazel
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@lusty glacier also, cablemod has a customer support for questions like that :) they are MUCH better equipped to answer questions like that :)

granite delta
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I feel bad for the people who actually pay full price for a windows key

lusty glacier
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Now I know for next time c: I'll bring it to them, thanks

desert gulch
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@granite delta yeah lol. Imagine paying the official mucrosoft store 150 for a windows home key lmao

lusty glacier
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@granite delta I keep getting them for free from my school. Education edition but w/e

granite delta
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That’s nice

lusty glacier
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I just mean like 20 years ago I thought buying windows now and then was going to be a problem but now it feels like people just throw keys at you

feral jetty
granite delta
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Kev

feral jetty
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Hello hello

granite delta
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Why don’t you just go with a 500 gb ssd?

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Instead of getting two 250gb

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I know prices are different in the uk

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But I figure it would be cheaper

feral jetty
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Don’t ask these are all the parts that I already got 😂😂😂

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I didn’t think about it back then

granite delta
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Ohhh

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Lmao

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I see

feral jetty
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Some of my parts I’m definitely thinking wtf

granite delta
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Did you want both a micro atx case and mobo or just the micro atx mobo?

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@feral jetty

crimson hornet
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Hey so I just built my Pc and I’m trying to boot windows. Alls I have on my screen is a blinking line

granite delta
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Did you install windows already?

crimson hornet
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No trying to do that sorry

granite delta
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You good

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You already know how to right?

ripe wedge
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blinking line at top left?

crimson hornet
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Yeah

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Top left

ripe wedge
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did you install windows onto a usb yet?

crimson hornet
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Yeah

ripe wedge
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using microsofts usb tool

granite delta
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Media creation

ripe wedge
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^

crimson hornet
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No

granite delta
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Ah

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That’s the problem

ripe wedge
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did you just put the iso on the usb?

granite delta
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Let me give you a video

crimson hornet
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did you just put the iso on the usb?
@ripe wedge yeah

ripe wedge
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here is the tool

granite delta
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You need to download media creation tool

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Just make sure your pc is turned off when you insert the usb

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And power it on once it’s there

feral jetty
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@granite delta sorry both case and motherboard

crimson hornet
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Does this work on a Mac?

granite delta
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I don’t believe so

ripe wedge
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I dont think it plays too well with macos

granite delta
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@granite delta sorry both case and motherboard
@feral jetty you good

ripe wedge
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if you have a windows pc laying around id use that

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or have a friend install it on a pc

granite delta
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I personally like the darkflash dlm 22 case

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It’s a good cheap microatx case

ripe wedge
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I personally like the mb320l

granite delta
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Never heard of that one

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Mind sending a pic?

ripe wedge
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its a coolermaster

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meant the mb311l

feral jetty
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What about MOtherboard

granite delta
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Msi b550m pro

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3rd one in the pic

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@ripe wedge now that you showed me that case I don’t know whether to get that one or the darkflash

ripe wedge
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the mb311l was a blast to build in

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it has a lot of space for cable management

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and the removable cage is nice

granite delta
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it has a lot of space for cable management
@ripe wedge does it comes with the fans in the photo?

ripe wedge
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yea

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so I didnt need to buy any

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I moved the top one to the rear

granite delta
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Pog

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That case won my heart

ripe wedge
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I have the mb320l I think non mesh front

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but id recommend the mesh front

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I accidentally bought the non mesh lol

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still keeps the pc super cool tho

granite delta
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Alrighty

ripe wedge
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lots of airflow except if u have a beefy gpu

granite delta
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Gonna watercool my apu 😎

ripe wedge
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I mean the airflow is decent for the gpu

granite delta
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Yeah

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Case looks epic

ripe wedge
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another thing about it

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is idk what software can control the rgb

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it has a hub that came with it

granite delta
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Oh ok

ripe wedge
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but only has preconfigured settings

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but havent really tried any software so idk

granite delta
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Just want a whitish blue theme

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Is there a white variant of that case?

ripe wedge
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i dont think so

raw thunder
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So grabbed a 760 power supply for my new rig. As I understand that should be plenty for a 3070?

lime forge
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yes

raw thunder
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But would be short of a 3080? If I am running a ryzen 3900

ripe wedge
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3080 will work fine with 760W

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nvidia recommends a 750W

unkempt jolt
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Any idea what causes a white light to be on? It says VGA on the motherboard label. I just opened it up to covert my 4 pin power to the motherboard to an 8 pin and connect an RGB adapter for the case rgb to work with aura

unkempt jolt
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Never mind a restarting fixed it

wind peak
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Hello, I’m a college student looking for build ideas for potentially next spring/summer, looking to spend only about 800-850 and intend to mainly use it for gaming, Valorant, overwatch and the sorts, any recommendations?

granite delta
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Hello, I’m a college student looking for build ideas for potentially next spring/summer, looking to spend only about 800-850 and intend to mainly use it for gaming, Valorant, overwatch and the sorts, any recommendations?
@wind peak is that the budget for the pc or the whole setup?

wind peak
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Pc

granite delta
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Ok

wind peak
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I’ve been talking with a friend and I’ve just mainly looking for ddr4 ram with decent components to go with it

granite delta
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@ripe wedge

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What would be a good gpu for the price

ripe wedge
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hmm

granite delta
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It’s really hard for me to decide since I know prices will drop

ripe wedge
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@wind peak is that USD?

wind peak
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Yes

ripe wedge
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ah ok ill try to throw something together

granite delta
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I already have a list

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Just missing the gpu

ripe wedge
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how much budget is left

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@granite delta

wind peak
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I haven’t really started anything, just looking to get an idea so that I could switch from my school laptop that’s not bad for now, to something more designed for gaming

vital warren
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could always take a look at used gpus rn

granite delta
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My wifi in the hotel is slow

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Jake

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Just make it

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My wifi is bugging

ripe wedge
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ah ok

granite delta
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My messages didn’t even load before

ripe wedge
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I think a ryzen 2600 would be fine cuz its cheaper

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but if theres more budget to allot ill upgrade it to a 3600

wind peak
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Will prices go down much come next spring/summer

vital warren
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i tried to put something decent together

ripe wedge
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wait does the ryzen 2600 not work with a b550 mobo?

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pc part picker wont let me choose the b550 with 2600

autumn wolf
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believe there are some chips that the b550 doesnt accept

ripe wedge
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weird

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b450 it is for now I guess

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@wind peak most likely

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but im working on it for ya rn

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@wind peak would you be fine buying a used gpu?

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you could get more power froma used gpu

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I threw this together but it isnt entirely amazing

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case little overpriced

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but cases are subjective if you like them or not

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actually no

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need to change it from that msi card

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I wouldnt buy this exactly because you can find some better used stuff for around that range

wind peak
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There was a build I saw someone selling with a case that had a mesh front, it started with an A I believe, prices and quality is likely to change due to not buying it now so it’s not a major concern

terse condor
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Just got a ax1200i and having issues keeping it powered on? Any suggestions?

still roostBOT
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NOputitback#2233 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

terse condor
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Where

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What bad word did I say @still roost

onyx lava
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Can I post my build plan in here?

pallid hull
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yea ppl can look at your build and see what can be fixed

onyx lava
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Ok yea, probably need that since I'm completely new to pc building lol

pallid hull
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everybody starts exactly the same hah

pallid hull
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is this pcpartpicker?

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never used on mobile so i cant tell lol

onyx lava
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Yes

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Mobile site so I had to take multiple ss

pallid hull
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are you just planning on using this system to play games?

onyx lava
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Might use it for coding work as well

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Other than that yea

pallid hull
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jeez that monitor lol

onyx lava
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My budget was ~3500 so I was trying to make the most out of it

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Lol I'm a little bit of an ultrawide fanatic

pallid hull
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Yeah i'm still trying to get used to a curved monitor, been using flat my whole life

onyx lava
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How do you like them?

pallid hull
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uhm, as of now i dig em....tho when playing competitive shooters it feels oddly off

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don't know the best way to describe it

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also yea i know litttle to nothing about balancing out parts between wanting gaming and coding so i couldnt help

onyx lava
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Lol same here

pallid hull
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hopefully someone here can pick up on your build and see if they can help

onyx lava
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I hate to admit it but I'm probably only going to be playing minecraft and gta 5

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But planning on trying racing sims

pallid hull
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Nothing wrong with that, I personally hate it people say "dude u have this beast of system and ur playing so and so games????"

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had this guy jump on my buddy who was buying a 3080, starting getting heated cuz he didn't have a 4k monitor...like what?

onyx lava
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Yea I also dont think 4k gaming monitors are mainstream

granite delta
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@onyx lava Are you gonna oc your cpu?

onyx lava
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No

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Most likely not

granite delta
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And samsung nvme is not the way to go

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Well

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You really don’t need that liquid cooler

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You may have money, but you might as well spend it wisely

onyx lava
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I agree, what should I get for the storage?

granite delta
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Did you go with that mobo cause you can’t use ethernet?

onyx lava
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But the liquid cooler, more specifically that one is just a want of mine

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About that

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I was really unsure about what mobo to get

granite delta
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It all depends

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How much do you think you would need?

onyx lava
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Wym

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Oh for storage?

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I need at least ~800gb

granite delta
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You could leave that aio cooler and upgrade to a 2tb nvme

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And get a noctua nh-d15 cooler

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That’s only if you know you’re gonna oc

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If not

onyx lava
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How much do those go for? 2 tb nvmes?

granite delta
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The stock cooler should be just fine

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I would have to check

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You can prob get a 1tb hdd and 1tb nvme

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Actually wait

onyx lava
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I hate to say this but I want that aio because of the customizable screen

granite delta
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Oh I see

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Can’t really say anything

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It’s your preference

onyx lava
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Also figured aio would keep it more than cool for my needs

granite delta
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You can go for a 2tb hdd and 1tb nvme

onyx lava
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Do you have a recommended pair?

granite delta
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Yeah one sec

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I was watching a review of the cooler you had

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It has better performance than most coolers

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This pair

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More than double the storage for less money

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@onyx lava I recommend getting this case over the one you chose

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Better airflow

onyx lava
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Oh

vital warren
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yeah cooler master has good options

onyx lava
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I chose that case because of the looks really

vital warren
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this one is nice as well

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td500 mesh

granite delta
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Same with the mobo?

onyx lava
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The mobo I'll admit was more random

granite delta
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Ah ok

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Well

onyx lava
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Was just trying to get one with wifi and type c

granite delta
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Did you even need a wifi board?

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Oh ok

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Let me save you $100 rq

onyx lava
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@vital warren that case looks good can you send link please

onyx lava
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Thanks

vital warren
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np

onyx lava
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Do you think my aio radiator would fit on the top of that?

granite delta
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90% sure it has a type c port

vital warren
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the case supports up to 360mm rad you should be fine

onyx lava
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Oh ok nice

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What's the difference between micro ATx and atx boards?

granite delta
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Size

onyx lava
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Really that's it?

vital warren
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less pcie slots

granite delta
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Oh yeah

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That too

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It’s really just the form factor and pcie

onyx lava
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Are pcie slots for gpus?

granite delta
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Yes

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And wifi cards and stuff like that

onyx lava
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Oh ok

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I dont see type c on the io

granite delta
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Let me check

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It says it does, but I will check once again

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I guess it doesn’t

onyx lava
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Oh

granite delta
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If you don’t mind me asking

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What do you need a type c port for?

onyx lava
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I plan to use it as a hub

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Since it draws more power than normal usb

granite delta
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Oh I see

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I don’t even think any motherboards have a type c port

desert gulch
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Yes they do

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On the rear io

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@granite delta what mono do you have?

granite delta
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Mono?

desert gulch
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Mobo

granite delta
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Oh lmao

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Well the build I’m going for is gonna have the asus prime b450

plain cloak
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Where would I ask about AIOs

granite delta
vital warren
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i just ordered a asus b550-a

fleet pagoda
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Is the 3070 or 3080 gonna be 500$?

plain cloak
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Aight

vital warren
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had to grab it for my white build

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3070 = 500

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3080 = 700

granite delta
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Is the 3070 or 3080 gonna be 500$?
@fleet pagoda 3070

fleet pagoda
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Ight

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Ty

granite delta
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@desert gulch so which mobos have a type c port

desert gulch
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I have one

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Most do

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@granite delta

fleet pagoda
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I need to get a better cpu any recomedations mu budget is like 300

granite delta
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3700x

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Most do
@desert gulch does this one have one?

desert gulch
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Idk

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Look at a pic of the rear io

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Or the specs

granite delta
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Really can’t find out

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I did

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But I really couldn’t see anything

desert gulch
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No USB c

vital warren
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for $300 i'd get a 3700x or an 10600k

desert gulch
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On the msi one

small heron
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What kind of a oc can you get with a normal 3700x

desert gulch
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Depends on cooler

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But rated up to 4.2

small heron
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Stock😎

desert gulch
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Ghz

granite delta
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He needs a wifi board with a type c port

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If you know any

small heron
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3.0 = typeC

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Free wifi

desert gulch
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Yeah built in Wi-Fi is gonna be more reliable

ripe wedge
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not always

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@small heron dont trust fenvi

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read too many bad reviews on it

small heron
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Idk just looked for cheapest

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Lol

ripe wedge
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I have one that I do use thats good

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ill link it

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it also has a bluetooth card

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works pretty well

small heron
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No heatsink?

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Ew

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It qill thermal throttle

ripe wedge
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I mean you can throw a heatsink on it for cheap

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asus might have one with a heatsink ill check

small heron
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Whats the range

ripe wedge
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dont know exact range but it does pretty well going through like 4 walls downstairs to the corner of the house where the router is

plush wigeon
small heron
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Oof

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Go for a 3080 in a 1700 build

plush wigeon
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3070 would be fine as well, wouldn't it? Cheaper and still a ton better than 2080ti

small heron
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3080 is only 50% better than a 2080ti

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3070 on par

vital warren
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thats quite a lot on corsair fans

small heron
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Ikr

onyx lava
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Sorry @vital warren forgot to ask you if the case you sent stock fans were good

vital warren
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according to all my friends who have used them they work great

onyx lava
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Ok thanks

granite delta
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Pog

plush wigeon
little leaf
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@plush wigeon no

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Bad list

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First

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Why are going intel

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2nd

plush wigeon
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Primarily gaming. 9700k is good for that.

little leaf
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Why tf 9th gen

calm crypt
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@plush wigeon are u sure ur going with 9th gen Intel there’s no upgrade path any why not amd it’s cheaper and better

little leaf
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10600k better

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Dont spend 150 on aio

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You could eaisly fit a 3080 jn here

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Dont spend 170 on a case

small heron
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$30 rosewill aio😎

plush wigeon
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the aio is $129.99 not 150

little leaf
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Oh cool 130

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So much better lmao

calm crypt
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Lol that’s still too much good aio budget is like 80 max in my@opinion

plush wigeon
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ok. I'll go to my 1st choice for non-rgb aio

little leaf
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80$ should get a rgb aio

calm crypt
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Yea u could do that or get ar master 240 aio RGB for 50 bucks

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Cooler master*

little leaf
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Ah the master leaker

calm crypt
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It’s an amazon exclusive so u gotta get it on there but I think the 240m I think it’s called is same with a circular water block

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Lol I’ve had it for almost a year with no problems push pull setup with my r7 2700 at 4.1ghz

plush wigeon
little leaf
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No

calm crypt
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Ya that’s nice

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Idk abt the mobo

little leaf
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Lmao how are u not fitting in a 3080

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In

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You dont need 32gbs of rgb ram

plush wigeon
#

I don't need a 3080. 3070 works just fine

calm crypt
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His case is too much

little leaf
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Overpriced case

calm crypt
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And 32 isn’t too overkill especially for multitasking

little leaf
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Stupid to get worse for the price

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But your money

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32 is over kill

plush wigeon
#

The case is known to be very good

little leaf
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Lmao

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Nice

calm crypt
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Lol as long as It has airflow it can be 15 bucks

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I made a bad desicion with my case it looks nice but runs hot af

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But dude in the end it’s ur pc and ur money so if ur not gonna be happy with it don’t listen to us ya know

stoic island
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@plush wigeon o11 is known to be good, as long as you slap in like 6 extra fans on top of the costs over a conventional case

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You gotta remember it doesn't come with fans

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So it's way overpriced

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The conventional cases we are used to, like the TD500 mesh, is 100$ with fans included.

spiral zealot
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i was actually just looking at an antec case the other day, $78 shipped from wegg, and comes with 5 fans, 3 argb front, and 2 black 120mm exhaust, one upper and one lower

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i think it's the DF600 or something

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and looks like reasonable airflow in general too

plush wigeon
#

You have to be level 3 to post links

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Just remove everything before pcpartpicker

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Should work.

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If not just post the stuff after .com

peak trench
jolly adder
#

When installing ram, I skip the 2nd slot and put the ram in 3rd. Right?

spiral zealot
#

it depends on the board, the manual will usually have a diagram to tell you which slots correspond to which memory channel

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some boards are slots 2/4 when starting at the CPU, others are 1/3

ripe smelt
#

...

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Is that a good build for streaming/editing/gaming?

vale birch
#

how y’all feel about this

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damn can’t post the link nvm

spiral zealot
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post it without the https://

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like the guy right above you did

vale birch
topaz acorn
#

PC SPEC NVIDIA 30 Series

GPU : RTX 3090 $1499
: Intel core I9 10900k $529
MEM : F4-3600C16Q-64GTZR $259
PSU : ASUS ROG Strix 850W White Edition PSU $280
Mother Board : ASUS ROG STRIX Z490-A $249
Water Cooling : Asus ROG Strix LC 360 White $250
Case : ASUS ROG Strix Helios GX601 White $295
SSD : WD BLACK SN750 m.2 2TB $350
Monitor : LG UltraGear 27GN750-B $397

Total : $3,610

ripe smelt
#

CPU: Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($71.88 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: MSI H310M PRO-VDH PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($56.99 @ B&H)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB GAMING X Video Card ($154.99 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($48.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($63.90 @ Walmart)
Monitor: BenQ GW2283 21.5" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor ($99.99 @ Adorama)
Total: $606.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

pallid hull
#

What are we looking for here?

small heron
#

Anyone wanna link me a good 750w 80+ bronze/gold psu around 100

knotty drum
#

look up for corsair 750w RM Gold @small heron

small heron
#

Ok

knotty drum
#

thats what i have

small heron
#

Paying 80 dollars more for 100whatts 😭

knotty drum
#

it was on sale when i got it

small heron
#

Oof

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$300 cpu + $700 Gpu + $80 dollar psu 😎

knotty drum
#

good deal

#

i wonder how much power does the 3070 gpu need?

coarse coral
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650W psu recommended.

knotty drum
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ah ok thank you im glad that i got 750W

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i was close to buy 650W

#

im planning to upgrade from 2070s to 3070 next year

robust tide
#

Is the 3700x good for streaming?

split vale
#

i'd like to see the lowest PSU people pull off running their Ampere cards on

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should be most of the time, @robust tide

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probably better than my 3600

floral flare
#

3070

ionic sail
#

So this is my "budget build".. I basically meant to just try replacing the motherboard on my original desktop, which is discontinued now, but I wound up going down the route of new mobo and case, but I needed DDR4 RAM for the new mobo, and it turned into a "cheap" build.

Mobo: gigabyte b450M ds3h wifi am4 amd sata 6Gb/s mATX motherboard

RAM = 4 GB patriot viper elite DDR4 2666 DIMMs ×2

Case: Cooler Master Master Box Q500L Mid Tower

PSU: EVGA 600 W ATX 12 V non modular 80 plus bronze power supply

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3200G 4 core processor

desert gulch
#

no gpu?

split vale
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it's an apu

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/iGPU

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is what it's replacing still working, @ionic sail?

desert gulch
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yeah i know that

ionic sail
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The CPU comes with radeon 8 vega graphics.

desert gulch
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thats what the g stands for

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you wont be gaming on it at all?

split vale
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if what it's replacing is still working, maybe try to wait for Ryzen 4000 APUs

ionic sail
#

So basically I have a HP pavillion p7 1010 that hasn't worked for months at this point. All the components work, but I believe the mobo is dead

desert gulch
#

yeah

ionic sail
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Idk if the CPU is dead but

split vale
#

like Ryzen 4300G

split vale
#

ah

ionic sail
#

It's an OEM deal

split vale
#

well, if you NEED a computer, then yeah. BUT

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if you ahve a spare GPU, maybe look at the Ryzen 3100 or 3300X

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if you plan on gaming

ionic sail
#

I don't have a spare gpu unfortunately

split vale
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if you can spare ~$50-60, you might be able to ebay a video card and get the 3100, which should beat a 3200G at gaming i believe

ionic sail
#

The build is more for classwork stuff, I wound up going in this direction with it because the mobo is cheaper than the one I would've bought for this computer

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Plus, it'll be my first actual build. So it's not like I'm wasting my money or anything. My gaming rig will be much better.

#

I'm probably getting the ryzen 5 3600 for my actual rig

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Idk about motherboard just yet but I'm giving myself time to think about it

split vale
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it's okay for 6 cores and lower

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my AB350M DS3H (same VRM, heatsink) ran 87C on a 1700X, so just take care if you plan to upgrade to 8 cores and beyond. otherwise it's ok

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how much is the DS3H?

ripe quest
#

the b450 or b550

ionic sail
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B450

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The mobo was 89.99 the Ram was 38.99, case was 59.99, psu was 69.99

split vale
#

ogod

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i wouldn't pay over $70 for that

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maaaaybe $80 in pandemic dollars

ionic sail
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I figured it was more cuz pandemic

ripe quest
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wait the ram was 39 bucks

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wtf

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what do you have 4 gigs of ddr3

ionic sail
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DDR4

ripe quest
#

rlly

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what speed

ionic sail
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2666

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PC4 21300

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Hold on, 2666 is the speed right? I'm still learning somewhat

split vale
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if it's not much more, maybe look to see if there's DDR4-3000 on the QVL

ripe quest
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send me ur pcpartpicker list

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@ionic sail

ionic sail
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Pcpartpicker list?

ripe quest
#

you cant post links yet so just remove the http

split vale
#

your video performance on an APU depends on the DDR speed

ripe quest
#

yes

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to pick out your pc parts?

ionic sail
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I didn't

ripe quest
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why

ionic sail
#

But I'd taken the time to look into a few things before hand.

ripe quest
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ok thx

#

i think 4 gigs of ram is not enough

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at all in 2020

ionic sail
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It's 8 gb

ripe quest
#

really

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it says 4 gigs up there

ionic sail
#

I got 2 sticks of ram

ripe quest
#

i would still reccomend 16 gigs but u are on a budget

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how much is your budget?

split vale
#

i'd say to start with 8

ionic sail
#

I was thinking about the 16 but for now 8 gbs will suit my purposes

spiral zealot
#

you can get 16gb for barely over $50 these days

split vale
#

Win10 runs surprisingly well on 8GB

spiral zealot
#

i think you can get a set of gskill for 57

ionic sail
#

I will build a better gaming rig

split vale
#

i could do most games (non-APU) ...except for BL3

ionic sail
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I'll be sure to post here before I buy parts next time though

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I really appreciate all the feedback

split vale
#

wellllll

plush wigeon
split vale
#

i'd definintely suggest an SSD for windows if you're running 8GB

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tho i dunno how much worse it would run on an HDD, tho

plush wigeon
#

I have 3 lists, each with descriptions detailing what their price limit is

ionic sail
#

I do plan on getting an ssd

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Just not right now, maybe next paycheck

ripe quest
#

it is significantly worse on an hdd

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but even a 256 gig ssd is good as a boot drive

split vale
#

i'm trying my first Asrock right now

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B450M Pro4

spiral zealot
#

yeah, if you're really on a budget you can get a cheap 2.5" sata ssd w/dram cache for probably under $40 or so

ripe quest
#

asrock boards are ok

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nothing to write home about

split vale
#

seems pretty solid once i figured out how to make it stable with my pre-2012, maybe even 2010 PSU

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it was unstable just at idle. i could do a day long encode just fine. but it woudl freeze at idle

ionic sail
#

Do I want a dram cache with the ssd?

spiral zealot
#

for a boot drive, it's preferred

split vale
#

yes

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i'm also trialing SK Hynix S31

ionic sail
#

I had watched a few builds and they talked about having and not having it... I didn't know what to think

split vale
#

seems pretty decent for a budget SSD

spiral zealot
#

i have an asrock board and it's fine, it's definitely not as full featured as other x399 boards

split vale
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i killed a Silicon Power A55 in a couple weeks

ionic sail
#

Also, what's VRM? Friend was telling me about power phases and I was a bit confused

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I remember reading about -5V and -12V conversion stuff... seems like that's what he meant?

split vale
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it's those blocks around the socket, sometimes with huge, gaudy heatsinks

ripe quest
#

you dont really need to worry about that stuff now

split vale
#

converts ?? to the 1.x volts the CPU needs

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but yeah, if you're not going above 6 cores, you can pretty much ignore it

ripe quest
#

you can see on cheaper mobos like yours

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it doesnt have a huge block right

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whereas on more expensive ones

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it has a block

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and thats the heatsink

split vale
ionic sail
#

Ahhh okay

#

One day I'll be a lot more familiar with the terminology

ripe quest
#

you honestly dont need to worry about it

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right now

ionic sail
#

Right

split vale
#

usually just overclockers care about it, but with up to 16 cores on AM4, it starts to matter a little if you go that high. or plan to

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or on Intel if you want to OC 5ghz+

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buuuuuuuut, a few good boards ~$100 are good with 16 cores (and moderate air flow)

ionic sail
#

Ok

#

I'm surprised at how much I genuinely enjoy looking up computer parts, tearing apart and putting parts back together..

split vale
#

it's fun

ionic sail
#

I kinda want to work at a PC store and just build and take apart computers for the experience... but idk.

split vale
#

yeah, i'd kinda like that, too, but the pay probably sucks unless you're the owner and the business is doing well

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Adamant IT is one guy i've started watching a little when suuuuuper bored and not feeling like gaming

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he's like Louis Rossmann but for PCs and maybe 2% of the soldering

ionic sail
#

My hard drive died on me and so I lost like 7 years of gaming memories on it.. idk what to even do anymore when it comes to gaming....

split vale
#

oof

still roostBOT
#
plonk420#2484 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

split vale
#

*get that shxt on youtube

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and just private them or something

ionic sail
#

I need to replace the hdd but I want to try formatting it first before replacing it...

split vale
#

and mega gives you ~50GB of storage free, too

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i have 50 on mediafire, too, but not sure if that's just because of how old my account is

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anywho, Adamant IT does a lot of repair, and some straight computer builds

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oh, it's someone else who is building their first. @plush wigeon ^

ionic sail
#

How do I update the bios on a motherboard

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I'm a little worried because it's saying I may need to update the bios on that mobo before I can use the amd ryzen 3 on it...

split vale
#

if you buy directly from newegg or bezos (and not a reseller) it's probably 99 or 99.9% likely to be ready for the CPU

ionic sail
#

Yup from newegg

split vale
#

and not one of their crappy resellers?

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i bought a B450 end of june last year and it was ready for Zen 2

long bear
#

Has anyone here had success with the newegg pc builder lists

ionic sail
#

Nope, straight from newegg

spiral zealot
#

almost any new B450 board will be fine, that warning was really only relevant when ryzen 3000 first came out

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at this point, new boards from the factory will have the right bios

split vale
#

some guy on the RPCS3 discord claims to have bought a mobo from a Newegg reseller and it was DOA 😩

ionic sail
#

I'm actually glad I got most of the stuff straight from newegg

split vale
#

and then the reseller claimed to have not received the return shipment

ionic sail
#

The ryzens from ebay

split vale
#

how muhc?

ionic sail
#

didn't see it on Amazon, I'm a little worried about that one. Got it for $97

split vale
#

if their ratings are good and they sell a lot of computer parts (and they're in the US) they're probably ok

#

$97 is a bit low to me

#

entering sketchy territory a bit

#

oh wait

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ugh, you're talking 3200G

ionic sail
#

I'd seen the price as like $99 they're based in the US

split vale
#

mixed it up with someone else's 3600

ionic sail
#

ohh

split vale
#

yeah, that's okayish

#

little bit high, but hardware availability is weird

plush wigeon
#

Except on Amazon. Good rated sellers could have fake reviews or bribed for the good ones. There's already evidence some have done so

ionic sail
#

Again, glad I went the newegg routd

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I was gonna buy on Amazon at first

plush wigeon
#

Be wary of price gougy or super overpriced prices.

split vale
#

for Amazon, look at Camelcamelcamel.com to avoid gouging (also works for getting a feel as to what it should be similar to on the 'egg)

plush wigeon
ionic sail
#

Is the i/o shield built in on an OEM case?

split vale
#

/shrugh

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lol

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i've only bought one OEM case/build, and taht's when DDR4 was crazy expensive

ionic sail
#

I'm just amazed. I'm literally thinking about building this computer. I can't sleep

split vale
#

it was removable but you had to slide it s ideways a bit to remove (Thinkstation P300)

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never doing that again if i can help it

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proprietary fan headers (so it wouldn't slow down with normal fans), proprietary power connector, proprietary USB/sound/power headers

ionic sail
#

Hmm

split vale
#

and SATA ports and IO connectors would run into > 1fan GPUs

ionic sail
#

Hmmm

split vale
#

(had to pump the contrast so i could make out the corrupted ATX connector shapes)

ionic sail
#

Hmm

split vale
#

you're good to link things now (see that your nick is green)

ionic sail
#

Oh cool

split vale
#

Newegg and B&H have the B450M DS3H for $75

ionic sail
#

I wanted the one with wifi

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Hence a couple more money

#

Wait what

#

Hence more money

#

Geez

split vale
#

you can get an MSI card off amazon running an Intel wifi nic (replaceable) for ~$30

#

what i like about that is you can move it to another board if you need to

deep skiff
#

I’m new to this what’s the difference of the b450m ds3h and the b450m ds3h WiFi?

fluid raven
#

The wifi part

fleet pagoda
#

Getting my ethernet setup today pogu

little osprey
#

Nice

slender dirge
#

Display: Acer Predator XB271HU OS: Windows 10 Pro MB: ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero CPU: i7-8700k GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 RAM: 32GB G.SKILL TridentZ @3200MHz

analog hearth
#

@split vale @ionic sail all roles can link now, btw

#

(For future reference)

little osprey
analog hearth
#

that's quite good for $33

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it's not RGB, though

little osprey
#

Thanks

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I was just trying to get a good mechanical keyboard for not too much money

analog hearth
#

that keeb has clicky switches, btw

little osprey
#

I know

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Blues are super loud

analog hearth
#

ehhh that's debatable. I have a key switch tester with Cherry MX Blues. they're mega loud lol

#

definitely not Kailh Jades, though

little osprey
#

Ya

plain cloak
#

Where would I ask about case fans

lusty glacier
#

I've got a problem with my build, hopefully somebody here may have had the same issue recently:

Ryzen 7 3700x with Wraith Prism, using the Wraith Prism software to control it.
Asus Prime x570 Pro, RGB controlled with iCUE.
2x16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB, controlled with iCUE.

When I put my computer to sleep, all of the LEDs stay on except for the Wraith. I've enabled the ERP thing in bios, and I've set the LED behavior when the PC is in a non working state to Stealth Mode in bios. Bios will save my changes when I make them, but changes back to how it was before when I reboot so the changes never really take effect. Any idea what I can do to fix this? I also tried using the Aura Sync software to shut things down when the computer shuts down, but it didn't work. If I want the lights to go out I need to flip the switch on the PSU and cut power entirely.

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I just uninstalled iCUE, restarted, changed the setting in bios to Stealth Mode again, loaded to desktop, and when I put the computer to sleep every LED was still lit - so I guarantee you when I check the bios again instead of Stealth Mode it'll be set to "Aura Only."

coarse coral
#

@lusty glacier which lights are on on which products

lusty glacier
#

The Corsair ram is lit, and the motherboard section above the IO and on the little fan

plain cloak
#

Ngl.. all these companies having their own "proprietary software" (that only works with their stuff, and nothing else) is kinda dumb..

lusty glacier
#

Sure is

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The only thing that turns the lights off is the Wraith Prism

coarse coral
#

yeah setting it to stealth mode should have fixed it, my only guess is that aura sync is bugged and you may need to clean install it so it stops overriding the aura-on-shutdown setting

lusty glacier
#

It was doing this before I installed Aura Sync, and I've since uninstalled it to see if that would help because it did nothing for me lol

coarse coral
lusty glacier
#

I'm going to try uninstalling the Wraith Prism software and give it a shot

#

brb wish me luck

celest horizon
#

Woah, theo helping troubleshoot?

coarse coral
#

Woah, theo helping troubleshoot?
@celest horizon i always help people Angry

celest horizon
plain cloak
#

Where would I ask about RGB, and stuff

lusty glacier
coarse coral
#

they autoinstall with aura

lusty glacier
#

Alright

coarse coral
lusty glacier
#

Also - if I’m enabling stealth mode do I need to enable ErP S4+S5 or just S5?

coarse coral
#

then restart computer

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i think when i had the rgb problem i turned all soft states off

lusty glacier
#

I’m not familiar with that term, is ErP a soft state? So leave it disabled?

celest horizon
#

ERP is a power saving mode

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I'd leave it disabled, doesn't really make much of a difference

lusty glacier
#

That’s what I was reading, it apparently should reduce the power the motherboard gets during sleep and wouldn’t let the lights light up

celest horizon
#

Ya, if you want to wake the pc from usb devices, charge your phone etc, leave it off.

lusty glacier
#

Okay

#

Saved, rebooting, I’ll try a sleep then run the aura cleaner

#

Ignore the cables, waiting on fans still. RGB still going during sleep.

coarse coral
#

ERP is set to off?

lusty glacier
#

Yes

#

But guaranteed if I check the bios Stealth Mode changed itself to Aura Only again.

coarse coral
#

i wonder why its not saving

lusty glacier
#

And at this point there is zero software installed to control RGB

coarse coral
#

usually ERP changes will do the trick

#

that was my last resort

lusty glacier
#

It couldn't be a Windows power profile overriding it eh?

stoic island
#

ERP on time?

ionic sail
#

Sup

coarse coral
#

have you tried seeing if s5 only will work?

lusty glacier
#

I can do ERP on to try again, should I re-enable Stealth Mode at the same time?

#

No I have not, but I can

coarse coral
#

yes stealth mode

lusty glacier
#

S5 + Stealth, coming up

coarse coral
#

try stealth mode + erp off and stealthmode + erp s5 if it doesnt work

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errr s4

#

i think s4 is the lowest power state in erp if i remember

#

besides off

lusty glacier
#

Lmao bios changed sleep to “all on” not just aura this time

coarse coral
#

if all all else fails, reset cmos and set all your computer stuff over again

lusty glacier
coarse coral
#

yeah just double check its all on stealth on onboard leds and see how each erp works out

lusty glacier
#

Doing s5 first

coarse coral
#

pretty sure disabled is what worked on my older asus board

#

my only thing is why it isnt saving your settings

still roostBOT
#
Seniri#5304 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

lusty glacier
#

Whoops

coarse coral
#

its more like aura sync program and bios interaction is crap

#

for the past few generations of boards now

#

i had this problem with old z270 board when i had my 7700k

lusty glacier
#

S5 did nothing, trying s4+

#

That far back eh

coarse coral
#

could be aura sync on windows overwritting

#

the aura service is still on there ifyou didnt uninstall and clean it correctly

lusty glacier
#

How would I check that? And it’s set to aura only again

#

Hmm

#

The file you sent, should it have opened something or just flashed at me briefly?

coarse coral
#

that file actually clears the registry of it

#

thats the faq file

#

. Uninstall Aura through the control panel and reboot your system.
2. (Optional) Run Aura Cleaner tool available here.
3. Download the latest version of Aura available.
4. Unzip and open the file, right click on “Setup”. Under Properties\Compatibility, select “Run as
administrator”. Apply and close Properties window

lusty glacier
#

I just mean it didn’t open any windows, just flashed super quick

coarse coral
#

yeah

#

thats normal

lusty glacier
#

Okay awesome

coarse coral
#

but

#

make sure to run the cleaner as admin

lusty glacier
#

Did

coarse coral
#

hmm

#

do you have asus armory installed

lusty glacier
#

Stealth + S4/S5 no effect

#

Nope, I removed it to troubleshoot

coarse coral
#

okay good

#

reinstall the newest aura sync now

#

and set sync at shutdown to off

#

and do a few pwer cycles to check

lusty glacier
#

Trying now

#

Okay, that worked for the motherboard leds - should I reinstall iCUE and set the ram to software controlled? That worked for the sticks last time

coarse coral
#

yeah go for it

lusty glacier
coarse coral
#

i dont see why your ram sticks would light up tho

lusty glacier
#

I don't see either, trying a sleep again

coarse coral
#

my only guess is you put a check mark on full software control in icue and its being controlled through asus aura.

lusty glacier
#

Ram still stays on, everything else is fine

#

No I haven't checked that box yet but when I used it yesterday it shut the lights off on the ram, I'll give it another go

coarse coral
#

kk

#

set the rgb color to black too in instant lighting

#

see if that will help

lusty glacier
#

Software control didn't help

coarse coral
#

ERP set to off?

lusty glacier
#

I believe so

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Instant lighting to black turns off all RGB on the board

coarse coral
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in icue, uncheck "enable plugins"

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then try again

lusty glacier
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No dice

coarse coral
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weird

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not sure then

wary geode
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oh yeah ive had this issue

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i still have it

coarse coral
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the mobo lights are off which is fixed

wary geode
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it sucks i had to do a bios update and test each ram stick for voerclockage

coarse coral
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i dont know why the ram lights are on tho

lusty glacier
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In any case thanks so much for your help - I wouldn't have gotten this far without you c:

coarse coral
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uwu

wary geode
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theo is very smart trust him

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this is the first time ive seen him other than general

lusty glacier
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Haha excellent timing

deep skiff
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😳

coarse coral
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the ram doesnt need a firmware update right?

lusty glacier
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No, I tried that first

coarse coral
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hmm

lusty glacier
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I'll mash it again though

coarse coral
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for lighting effects, set it to black

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then shut down computer and see if it sticks

lusty glacier
wary geode
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oh yeah the issue semmed resolved after i took out the ram and took off every software related to rgb and installed them again but icue last

coarse coral
lusty glacier
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When set to black it sticks

wary geode
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and you must enable full software contorl

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otherwise icue doesnt work properly

coarse coral
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enable full software control is only if he wants aura sync to take control of it, no?

wary geode
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saying as i have 5 different rgb programs

coarse coral
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well he can try

lusty glacier
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I’ll try FSC again but it was freezing the rgb on the ram

wary geode
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no full software is only icue controls that particular part

coarse coral
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i see

wary geode
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yeah ive had this issue

lusty glacier
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If full software is disabled the ram saved the colour profile, if it’s enabled it gets the commands from iCUe

wary geode
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but with me it was a coding issue and specific rgb sequence that caused a freeze due to confusion of board and ram

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you have to restart for effecgts to take place

lusty glacier
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Okay, one sec

wary geode
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theo are all your parts icue related?

coarse coral
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pretty much, my asus mobo and gpu work through plugins through icue

wary geode
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same i need help however with my aio

coarse coral
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i dont have rgb problems on thisboard tho

wary geode
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what baord

coarse coral
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only on my old board

lusty glacier
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Full software control enabled, pc rebooted, ram still lights up during sleep

deep skiff
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theo that answer didnt help at all

wary geode
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mines is a x470 prime pro

coarse coral
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ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero (Wi-Fi)

celest horizon
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Ram has firmware now?

wary geode
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yep

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it does its annoying

celest horizon
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What has the world come to

wary geode
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the corsiar lighting had some bugs for me in the past

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works perfect

coarse coral
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corsair ram has firmware for rgb

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lolol

lusty glacier
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x570 Prime Pro, regretting it because of these issues and the front panel USB connector location

little osprey
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why

wary geode
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HAHAHHA THE PRIMES ARE GARBO FOR THIS STUFF

little osprey
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does it have firmware for ram

wary geode
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Thats how i had issues

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my prime pro had so many incomplabilty and issues with overclockage

lusty glacier
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I GOT IT BECAUSE IT WAS WHITE AND LOOKS NICE IN THE RGB

coarse coral
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hahahaha

wary geode
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yep same for me

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it cant run 4 rams at 3200

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only 2666

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it sucks but i have gen 2 ryzen so im not losing as much

little osprey
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my ram runs at 1800

lusty glacier
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Only need two, 3700x recommends dual channel. I've got two Vengeance dummy sticks coming

little osprey
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cuz its ddr3

wary geode
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thats good]

deep skiff
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kekw my b450 tuf plus runs ram at 3200

wary geode
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shut up nerd

little osprey
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my computer is that best computer in this sever

lusty glacier
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They should be here today actually c:

6x QL120s on the way for Thursdayish

little osprey
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it can run minecraft

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at 720p

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at 20 frames

wary geode
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ive gotten even beattin by a d3sh

little osprey
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beat that

deep skiff
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lmao d3sh>x470

wary geode
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i run 16 on flight sim

little osprey
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i bet u i cant run flight sim

wary geode
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yeah im not even kidding it overcloked to 2933 and this board to 26666

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its fumb

lusty glacier
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Oh, ram froze again

wary geode
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reinstall

lusty glacier
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iCUE?

wary geode
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program and delete all other rgb

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yes

deep skiff
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icue lame

stoic island
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Lol

lusty glacier
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Aura too? That's what fixed the motherboard RGB issue

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I know the fix now though I can replicate it

wary geode
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yes

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no just delete aura

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dont ever reinstall

little osprey
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aura is bad?

deep skiff
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yeah

wary geode
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so many issue with it for icue and aura

little osprey
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worse then icue

deep skiff
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mine took forever to work

wary geode
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they have so many issues

lusty glacier
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Control the mobo through iCUE?

wary geode
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yes

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its possible

lusty glacier
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Awesome, because the rainbow stopped

wary geode
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good 🙂

lusty glacier
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:c

rustic sandal
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honestly need help picking out my aesthetics

lusty glacier
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Aura gone, iCUE reinstalled, software control enabled, ram still on during sleep. ErP S4+S5 is enabled.

wary geode
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only icue

lusty glacier
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And the ram is frozen again. It only freezes when software control is on

wary geode
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only icue nothing else