#building-and-recc-chat

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lyric thistle
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I'd spend a lot less than 500 on a motherboard, but I'm no nutter for premium features

rose sentinel
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nono, meaning 500$ overall

lyric thistle
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Ah

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Lol

shy cradle
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Oh ok

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I was gonna say the seemed like a lot, yeah 500$ is my total budget

rose sentinel
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ight, would you like for me to try and put a build together for you? (parts you gotta buy yourself )

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i assume youre gaming, yes?

shy cradle
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No thanks, I generally have an idea of the parts on going to get

rose sentinel
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ight, cool! good luck my dude!

shy cradle
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Thanks

tardy pebble
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Not sure if this is the right chat for this, but can someone recommend some good full tower cases for me? I was looking at the Corsair Obsidian 750D Full Tower ATX case, but it seems to be completely out of stock everywhere meruHands

plush wigeon
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Ok, so I basically have completely picked out the parts for the pc I'll build for my $1000 actual pc budget. Onto the second part of the budget which is $500-$650 for monitor, desk, keyboard, mouse, mousepad, gaming chair, and other little doodads. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zY7RZf

System Builder
rose sentinel
tardy pebble
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oh!!

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Nevermind then!

rose sentinel
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lol

tardy pebble
crisp ember
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Hey so I’m trying to help a friend out into getting into the pc world. His parents don’t trust that he can build one right so they want to get him a prebuilt from Best Buy. He has a price point of around $900 and I was just going to ask for any recommendations

rose sentinel
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nah, youre fine

plush wigeon
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I have an idea on a couple things. I think I have room for a desk around 52 inches.

still roostBOT
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AZicedT#2822 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

rose sentinel
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huh?

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bruh ok

plush wigeon
crisp ember
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You got caught lacking by not putting the ‘ in you’re

rose sentinel
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why not buy a prebuild take it apart and put it back together

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i guess lol

next kestrel
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why best buy specifically?

rose sentinel
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i assume so they can look at it

crisp ember
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I don’t know and neither does he

rose sentinel
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@plush wigeon why a mini itx?

lyric thistle
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Best buy 😢

next kestrel
rose sentinel
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lemme look around some

next kestrel
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thats a reasonably priced one

crisp ember
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I know, it sucks he can’t enjoy building his own

next kestrel
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:PP

rose sentinel
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that cooler tho

next kestrel
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true

plush wigeon
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@rose sentinel what do you mean mini itx?

rose sentinel
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the mobo is mini itx

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micro*

plush wigeon
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cheaper and relatively good specs

rose sentinel
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but youre limited on upgradeability down the line

plush wigeon
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as I said the budget for the pc is $1000

rose sentinel
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i guess yeh

plush wigeon
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Did you check the specs on the one I chose?

rose sentinel
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pretty solid choice, but i still stand by what i said.

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like, later down the line its gonna cost more to upgrade

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say you wanna do a dual gpu setup

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or run a DRP4

plush wigeon
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I'm mostly gonna be gaming

next kestrel
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wait who pinged me

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wot

plush wigeon
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not streaming

next kestrel
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honestly ITX isnt too bad

rose sentinel
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^

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agreed

shy cradle
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What's ITX

next kestrel
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form factor

rose sentinel
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its a mobo size

next kestrel
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very small

shy cradle
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O ok

next kestrel
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but upgradability is kinda ehh

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not many people will have any use for a dual gpu setup

rose sentinel
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i wanna build a watercooled micro itx

next kestrel
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or use a drp4

rose sentinel
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i do lol

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that cooler is a beast

next kestrel
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yes but would you upgrade to it

rose sentinel
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well, it depends

next kestrel
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thats one cooler gone from hundreds of others

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some people like ITX a lot

rose sentinel
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oh for sure, see i like flexibility when i build and how i might wanna use it later

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i dunno

plush wigeon
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Good thing I chose micro atx instead of mini itx then

rose sentinel
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y

plush wigeon
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y not.

rose sentinel
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oh ok

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i wanna watercool a micro-itx PC

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like CPU and GPU

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inside a tiny case

compact verge
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Put all my parts back in my old case

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Giving up on the new mobo/cpu

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Now I just gotta figure out which one is broken

craggy zodiac
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Guys, Should i Go for a AIO liquid cooler or a noctua air cooler
[3:05 PM]
for my ryzen 7 3700x
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and rtx 2080 super
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Please let me know
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By tagging me when replying

worthy island
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@craggy zodiac don't get an RTX 2080 super if its only for gaming

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and The processor and the graphic card doesn't match

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If you are using a High end Graphics Card use a High end processor as well like a RYZEN 9 3900X

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else you can't get the full performance from the RTX 2080 because your processor is not a High end one

autumn wolf
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not how that works but ok

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a 3700x is just fine with a 2080 super

craggy zodiac
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Yeah thats right

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@autumn wolf

lyric thistle
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Core2 Duo with 2080 Super?

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will it work guys

worthy island
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nooo

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that doesn't work

lyric thistle
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guys will it work

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Sempron with 3090

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will it work guys

sharp perch
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Can someone help me with building a spec list

stoic island
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Yes

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What do you want to do with it, what is your budget, do you need wifi, do you prefer Intel or AMD, and wait for the Nvidia Announcement in 5 hours

lyric thistle
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xd

calm crypt
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Hey so should I go gt 1030 or 1050ti lp. It’s for a low budget fortnite build looking for 1080 competitive settings

lyric thistle
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1650 Super

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1030, 1050, 1050Ti prices are trash

calm crypt
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Yea they are pretty high what’s the 1650 going for now?

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Also I need a lp that’s why I’m saying 1030 or 1050 ik they make a 1650 but do the do 1650s lp?

lyric thistle
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150

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no, no 1650 Super low profile

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my bad

calm crypt
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Damn then should I just go for a reg 1650

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Or is it cheaper for a 1050ti

lyric thistle
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if you can get a 1050Ti for a good price

calm crypt
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It literally just needs to run fortnite and chrome it’s for my bro it’s his first pc it’s got an 153570 in a sff optiplex lol

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Ok so like 125 or 100?

lyric thistle
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sure

calm crypt
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Ok lol I really am not too good with budget build pricing im@good with budgeting high end builds but not low end one lol thanks for ur help

stoic island
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1650 should be better tho

lyric thistle
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yeh

calm crypt
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Yea def I’ll see the price after today’s drop

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Well I see a 1650 lp for 150 shipped so imma just take that lmao

shy cradle
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How much GB would my GPU need?

worthy island
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the GB doesn't matters a lot

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the thing matters is the chip

foggy hazel
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@hoary flower the vertical monitor is just a monitor with a "pivot" stand (a fair number of monitors can actually do this already)

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or are you asking about the stacked setup?

slender owl
vague willow
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Can someone let me know if this is a good build for the price or if there's some sort of improvement I could make to better it but keep the same price ty

true olive
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you got a ryzen with integrated graphics but you bougth a dedicated graphics card

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your better off getting a better ryzen, without the integrated graphics for the same price

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id recomended the ryzen 3100, its around the same price and is zen 2 with better architecture and cache @vague willow

calm crypt
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@shy cradle the gb size of ur card won’t matter tooo much as long as it isn’t like a 2gb card or something like that if it is 4 6 or 8 u should be fine

shy cradle
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k thanks

vague willow
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@true olive alright ty I appreciate it

calm crypt
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Yessir

true olive
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np

calm crypt
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Reafer ryzen really likes 2 sticks of ram it’ll perform much better with 2 4gb sticks rather than 1 8gb @vague willow

true olive
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i just noticed that as well yeah

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your better off investing more in your ram for ryzen

calm crypt
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Yea that’ll improve performance a ton and always at least 3000 although 3200 or 3600 is sweet spot but I use 3000 with a 2700 and it runs great

true olive
calm crypt
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Yea those gskill kits are amazing

true olive
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yeah $31 for that 1 x 8gb stick is a bit of a rip off

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at 3000mhz

calm crypt
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Definitely

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Also you need a hard drive in that build you can’t just have a 240gb ssd @vague willow that’s a good boot drive but not enough storage for games and apps

vague willow
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Yeah I have a hard drive already so that's why I'm just getting a boot drive for it

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Ty though

calm crypt
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Gotcha just wanted to make sure lol

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And u saw about the ram right

vague willow
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Yessir

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Appreciate the help guys

calm crypt
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Bet that’ll be a nice build I had something similar in the beginning

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Kept everything just upgraded to a 2700 and a 1070

compact verge
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Since I'm returning my motherboard and the ram I bought isn't on the manufacturer recommended list, should I just return that too and get one that is?

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I still have no idea why it won't post

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Might as well return the cpu too and try it all again

earnest flax
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hello friends! i have an issue—i just built a new pc and it runs beautifully, however, it wont run if the gpu is placed in it.
im not sure this is exactly the place to ask, but is there anyone who can help me?;;

potent prairie
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Did you plug your monitor into the GPU or the motherboard?

jovial night
earnest flax
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i tried plugging it into both @potent prairie

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i also tried to reseat my ram twice? and i tried to use the other gpu slots on the mobo but

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nothing seemed to work

potent prairie
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Did you plug in the power cables to the GPU?

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You said works on integrated graphics (without the GPU installed), correct?

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Is so and you've made sure to plug in the power and also try different PCIE slots, I'd say in all probability your GPU is bad.

earnest flax
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yeah i made sure it was all plugged in

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man that sucks

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okay, well, thank u for the help 🛐

rigid ibex
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What is a good 4K monitor

plush wigeon
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Western Digital SN750 500 GB is $62.99 right now according to pcpartpicker

latent storm
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i want a 3080

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it looks crazy

flat fern
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@earnest flax what GPU and what CPU?

earnest flax
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gpu is a gtx 1660 and the cpu is a 6600k @flat fern

flat fern
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Bought it new? @earnest flax

earnest flax
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yeah

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im thinking about testing with my old gpu and seeing if that one works

flat fern
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👍

earnest flax
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if neither of the gpus work, what do you recommend i do next?

flat fern
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Maybe see if the motherboard is working correct

little leaf
flat fern
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Nice

finite cobalt
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I need a 144hz monitor that's affordable and doesn't constantly go out of stock

stoic island
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Are you buying now?

stoic wyvern
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Where is the best place to buy CPI for cheap?

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CPU

stoic island
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CPUs? New wise, decent retailers always have them at around the same spot, Microcenter usually has good deals for combos.

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Ofc used CPUs on eBay will be cheaper, but that's different markets

stoic wyvern
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Like I just need to buy parts

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Would it be reliable ?

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Off eBay ?

little leaf
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micro center

stoic island
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Used market is always taking your own risk depending on the situation

little leaf
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micro center pretty good deals

stoic wyvern
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And how’s would the i7-5820k pared with the 1050 to

stoic island
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Okay, are you trying to get a new PC?

stoic wyvern
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No

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I already have some parts I just need to Rogers

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Others

stoic island
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What do you have

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And how much can you spend for the rest

stoic wyvern
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I have a gpu, hdd, mobos

stoic island
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Oof

stoic wyvern
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Yea

stoic island
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What mobo

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I assume you have a 1050, which is big sad

stoic wyvern
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X99a sli plus

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Yea I have 1050ti, 1050, and 960

stoic island
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Hmm

hoary flower
stoic island
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You're gonna have better luck on older chips that would be supported by your board on eBay @stoic wyvern

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Half a decade old chips don't go for good prices new

stoic wyvern
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The i7-5820k is supported by x99a sli plus

stoic island
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I'll have to check what chips it supports

slender owl
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What’s this 360hz monitor that Nvidia showed in the live stream?

wary geode
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I believe the Asus one

stoic island
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Let's see, 5820k is ~100$

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anways lemme put smth together

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@stoic wyvern so no CPU, cooler, case, psu?

molten cedar
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anyone want to put together a $1800 pc build for me.. and yes including the 3080 in that budget

broken spire
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I have a ryzen 5 3600 and a rog strictly b450 f gaming in my new build but when I turn it on it flashes red for cpu and then to yellow which I’m running some 3600mhz ram on, any help?

jolly adder
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I'm waiting for my parts to come in. Will the basic dimensions of any power supply fit into a mini desktop style case?

spiral zealot
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depends on the case, it will say if it fits ATX standard or SFX form factor

mossy citrus
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I have a ryzen 5 3600 and a rog strictly b450 f gaming in my new build but when I turn it on it flashes red for cpu and then to yellow which I’m running some 3600mhz ram on, any help?
@broken spire what flashes red

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If its the rgb thats fine

broken spire
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No it’s the light on the motherboard saying that there’s a problem

mossy citrus
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What light

vocal hare
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you still got your manual?

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might be on there

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if not mobo webstire probably has pdf for manual

broken spire
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There are leds on the mother board that flash when a problem occurs, it says in the manual red is for cpu then yellow is for ram

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I have it

vocal hare
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its hard to say whats the problem based on that

mossy citrus
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Clear cmos

broken spire
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Okay

olive kraken
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Alright

analog hearth
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okey dokey

olive kraken
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Finished building the first PC for the kids at work

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Idk why Build pics has a 30s delay but

stoic island
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Very nice

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Hmm the cooler looks like a u12s?

olive kraken
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Yes

deep skiff
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how u like the thicc ncase m1

stoic island
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dunno why, might've been look at u14s too often, but I keep thinking u12s has like a round fan

analog hearth
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I want a TU150 :(

broken spire
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Holy crap it worked, thanks @mossy citrus

deep skiff
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i want a formd t1 but thats never gonna happen

mossy citrus
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That was a legit shot in the dark

olive kraken
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R9 3900x
Noctua u12s
32GB Corsair LPX 3200mhz
B550i Aorus Pro ax
1TB NVME SSD
1060 place holder for 2080 ti/3070
Lian li TU150 or whatever it's called

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ITX is a disaster to build in

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I no like

analog hearth
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get a 3070. don't waste anything on a 2080 Ti

deep skiff
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clearing cmos solves like 99% of the problems its like the greatest thing ever @mossy citrus

mossy citrus
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Lol

analog hearth
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I might clear my CMOS

olive kraken
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I cut my hands 3 times trynna plug in the cables with the heat spreader

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The cooler

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🥰

analog hearth
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my PC keeps waking and I have no updates. sometimes it doesn't fall asleep and even more rarely doesn't shutdown. CPU having random temp spikes

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would clearing CMOS help with that?

olive kraken
deep skiff
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idk try it its pretty fast and easy @analog hearth

olive kraken
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This is the Case comparison old in the left side

analog hearth
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the TU150 is freaking adorable bruh

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@deep skiff I need to lmao

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would a periodic clear CMOS be a healthy habit to have?

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like, clear it every three months or something?

olive kraken
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It looks like a little box space ship with the wifi antenna

deep skiff
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no it should be fine

analog hearth
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I don't really ever have any important settings to keep saved anyways

olive kraken
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The TU150 is horrible to build in cuz so smalllllll but so cute

deep skiff
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clear it whenever something doesnt work :v

olive kraken
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Ive Always built in full atx

analog hearth
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ah okay

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is the TU150 really that hard to build in?

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ahhh I really wanted one :(

olive kraken
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Idk how it compares to other ITX cases because I've only built ATX in mid towers before

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But the cut out positioning didn't convince me too too much

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Didn't take pics in detail but I'll show tomorrow with my little cable management on the back too

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@analog hearth

analog hearth
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ah I see

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I've never build in an ITX case

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I've always wanted that case as soon as I first saw it though lol

olive kraken
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Fair

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It's pretty. But the amount of times my knuckles bruised against the cooler. XD

analog hearth
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yikes lol

olive kraken
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But but, boss said I can take whatever I need from old PC

analog hearth
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wait, so what's the PC for?

broken spire
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Now the boot led is staying on and nothing else

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I’ve looked up trouble shooting steps but nothing seems to be working

analog hearth
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are you the one who cleared CMOS?

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make sure the CMOS jumper is taken off of the motherboard

olive kraken
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@analog hearth it's a program we have to introduce youth to technology and potentially jobs. In this instance this computer will be used for Teaching kids what Overclock is, CAD, and potentially video editing

analog hearth
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oh bruh I need that job

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is that at a school?

olive kraken
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Then we'll have others built for gaming, streaming, content creation

analog hearth
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I want that job lol. that actually sounds fun

olive kraken
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It's called Youmedia, it's situated in all the public libraries

stoic island
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I want that job :P

analog hearth
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what kind of position would that be called? I'm only seeing that in Chicago and I live all the way in Texas :/

olive kraken
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It is lots of fun and it pays good considering I'm not even 18 yet. $17/hr seems good enough

analog hearth
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bruhhh I want that

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being paid to teach young kids how and why to use a computer and being paid $17/hour seems like the perfect job lol

olive kraken
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What do you mean by position? Like my position right now or the entire area? Because if so we have mentors that specify in each area. And we also just bought like 30 Macs for those areas like audio recording and HW

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Macs are for Audio, Picture editing and Hw. Then PCs for gaming, streaming and vr

little osprey
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PCs are for everything

olive kraken
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I agree, it is a pretty good job. And what's even better is that I was there since day 1. So I helped design it and built it

analog hearth
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idk lol I just want a job like that

stoic island
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PCs for everything :D

olive kraken
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@little osprey yes but Mac software is especially good for said things

stoic island
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dual boot mac if you need that mac editing software

little osprey
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Yeye I get you

stoic island
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but other than that

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mac isn't great for anything else

little osprey
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Mac is overpriced

stoic island
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I'm talking macos for now

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You can dual boot macos if you research into it and you got the right parts

olive kraken
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We only have Macs because kids are used to them and they are easier to buy at a big scale

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@stoic island like a Macintosh?

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Hackintosh is the word

stoic island
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dem kids

olive kraken
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I think

stoic island
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yea

olive kraken
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Yep, and plus the apple environment is pretty sweet once u get into it

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They r more like general purpose. I guess? The PCs I will be building will be few but of a much higher caliber

stoic island
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Eh, it's like decent for everything with a few upsides, but you can just do much more on Linux/Win10

olive kraken
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Agreed

stoic island
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everything has downsides

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Linux is as close as you can get to a great OS because of different distros

olive kraken
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True

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Linux is like a sandbox

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Still, most kids won't know linux like they know Chrome os and macos

stoic island
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It's quite sad for me, do you live in CA or something?

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Everyone I know grew up with win10, a few macos

olive kraken
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CT

stoic island
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Ah

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One of the coasts yaknow

olive kraken
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Yeh

stoic island
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Midwest is an interesting place

olive kraken
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We sort of have w10 but it's few like most pple have macs

molten cedar
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build for $1700 any recommendations on parts ?

stoic island
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I'll make a list for ya

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Assuming grabbing 3080 on release for FE pricing

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Just gaming or anything else?

molten cedar
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most likely and thanks im looing at different parts but havent quite picked anything yet or know what to pair 3080 with

stoic island
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I'm gonna go overkill on cpu+cooler just for fun for the list for now btw

molten cedar
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surprise me ! 😛

unborn solstice
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i cant wait to grab a 3090FE. the open heatsink will allow my case fans to help out a bit more with the temps

stoic island
olive kraken
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I can't wait to pair my i3 9100 with a 3080

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🤭 jk jk

stoic island
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@molten cedar :D

vital warren
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cant wait to pair my fx 6300 with a 3080

olive kraken
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LMAO 😂

rich void
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Why not athlon 64 and 3090? 😄

olive kraken
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The embodiment of the word bottleneck

stoic island
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cant wait to pair my core2duo with a 3090

olive kraken
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Can't wait to play 8k 60fps

stoic island
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isa joke

olive kraken
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Dp 2.1 (or 2.2 idk the name)

unborn solstice
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has anyone seen anywhere offering cable extensions of the 2x8 to 12 pcie power?

molten cedar
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ive never seen that artic liquid cooler before @stoic island

stoic island
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It's got amazing performance

olive kraken
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And it's cheap

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Plus lil spinny fan for VRM

stoic island
olive kraken
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Yes ?

deep skiff
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fan go brrr

olive kraken
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Bro the clearance of the noctua nhu12s on the vrm of the b500i

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Is like none

stoic island
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It's like the best AIO out there that doesn't go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

olive kraken
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I thought I was gonna fck it up but had to tighten them screws

stoic island
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???

olive kraken
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@stoic island what about the Cooler Master 360 at max rpm 🤭

stoic island
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that one goes brrrr

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like really brrrr

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clc360 is loud asf under 100%

olive kraken
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😂😂😂

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Im curious. The 3070 has the same performance as the 2080ti and better rtx software, right? So what would be the benefits of still going for 2080 ti?

stoic island
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price

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vram

olive kraken
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Is it just a dual GPU flex at this point?

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Ah

stoic island
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it's 400$ used rn so yea

olive kraken
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Fair enough

molten cedar
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@stoic island

stoic island
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bad ssd

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smol ssd

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overpriced ram

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and what's wrong with my parametric selection on PSU :(

molten cedar
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i want something more powerful than 650 XD

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and for ram sticks i of course want rgb everyone knows that equals better gaming

stoic island
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wut

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what's wrong with 650w :(

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New GPUs are proven to not pull like 500w through the 12pin

molten cedar
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i currently have 650W and if im gonna upgrade everything might as well do 850 for future?

stoic island
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nah

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no real need imo

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TDPs don't exactly just go straight up

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You'll do fine with 550w right now

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650w still gives a bit of headroom

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and do remember good PSUs (I won't recommend bad PSUs to you :P) can handle 10% overload without a problem

cursive fiber
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So I just bought the nzxt h510 elite case and I set up everything and when I plug in the psu cable the power button starts flashing and the cpu starts flashing

stoic island
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the cpu starts flashing

molten cedar
#

why everyone saying new gpu needs 700+ minimum o.O confusion i tell you

stoic island
#

People got really scared by the 12pin thing lol

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but it turned out to be basically just 2x8 pin like before

#

You can go 750w if you want

#

but 850w would be overkill for overkill

unborn solstice
#

850 for 10900k and 3090

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i wouldnt say thats overkill

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9 fans too

odd crypt
#

@stoic island

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Hows my build

#

?

molten cedar
stoic island
#

am back

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Don't need 212

#

Grab a B550 pro-vdh wifi for the same price

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get like any other case

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and the rest looks fine

odd crypt
#

You talking to me?

stoic island
#

Yes

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@molten cedar just change it back to a MP34 :P

#

WD blue just really REALLY isn't worth it

robust tide
#

Is it fine if I put fronts in front of the rad when the rad is placed in the front instead of the top.

odd crypt
#

212 keeps the think good and its also quiet

stoic island
#

M.2 sata at those prices :P

#

@odd crypt then grab a gammaxx 400

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cheaper

#

better

#

it's like 25$

molten cedar
#

well i dont need that much storage so should i just do the mp34 512 with 2tb hard drive ?

formal plover
#

$25 for a gt1030

stoic island
#

Sure

formal plover
#

Should I get it?

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New, it's about $100

molten cedar
#

so should i just stick with my 650W gold powersupply for my new build or get a new power supply @stoic island and thanks for help. really appreciate it

stoic island
#

What model

formal plover
#

I could potentially sell it on ebay for $50

molten cedar
#

its a Evga GQ 80+Gold

stoic island
#

Well, it'll work

robust tide
#

Is it fine putting fans in front of the radiator when the radiator is placed in the front while not on the top?

hot frost
#

Quick question. If the desktop I'm setting up turns on (without pressing the case power button) as soon as the PSU is switched on, is it the mobo or the PSU that's messed up? Anyone ever have this problem?

median karma
#

anyone know a good site to finance a pc?

small heron
#

Pls send help

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If I have 1 mb screw where should i put it

calm crypt
#

@hot frost probably the mobo or ur case it might be auto jumping the power connection try disconnecting front panel connections and see what happens

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@small heron wdym

small heron
#

My case didnt come wth any

calm crypt
#

OH

small heron
#

But my mb came with 1

calm crypt
#

Jeez

small heron
#

Sooo

calm crypt
#

Middle?

small heron
#

Ok

calm crypt
#

And that’s prolly an m.2 screw

small heron
#

No io sheid either

calm crypt
#

It might not even fit

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Bruh wth

small heron
#

it works perfect

calm crypt
#

Did u get it used

small heron
#

Nope

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Brand new

calm crypt
#

That’s stupid

small heron
#

Yea

calm crypt
#

From where and what brand

small heron
#

Newegg / aorus

calm crypt
#

Dude that’s weird

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Return it if i were u

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That’s not good man

small heron
calm crypt
#

Yea I mean that’s gonna be ur best ig

#

U can prolly get more online for like 5 bucks

broken spire
small heron
calm crypt
#

Where does this go on my rgb controller thingy?
@broken spire Sata power on psu

broken spire
#

That thing plugs into sata?

calm crypt
#

Lol Ching that’s a built in io

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That thing plugs into sata?
@broken spire yep on the power supply then the other end should be in the controller already

small heron
calm crypt
#

Should be fine

hot frost
#

@calm crypt It turns itself on whether the "Power SW" power button cable is connected or not

small heron
#

Should i eo one closest to io or the one next to ram

calm crypt
#

Yea imma say mobo do u have another setup u can plug the PSU in to

hot frost
#

@calm crypt so even with front panel completely disconnected, it still turns itself on. Just got this setup in the mail today mind you

calm crypt
#

Ching yea ram prolly

small heron
#

Ok

calm crypt
#

Just don’t move it around to much

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U can get more online tho for cheap

small heron
#

Can u link me one

calm crypt
#

@hot frost Yea imma say mobo do u have another setup u can plug the PSU in to

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Can u link me one
@small heron I’ll send it to dms

small heron
#

K

hot frost
#

I may, yeah. Was gonna first test this setup with a different power supply

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But what you said is also a good idea. Prob try both an report back

calm crypt
#

Here u go

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Nvm

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Yea bet man

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@hot frost just dm me I don’t check in here to much

hot frost
#

@calm crypt will do, appreciate the help

calm crypt
#

No prob brotha just trouble shooting 😉 love helping out when I got nothing to work on

little osprey
#

^ is that build good for a 3090

stoic island
#

oof

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overkill everything

analog hearth
#

where's the GPU?

little osprey
#

3090 not ok partpicker yet

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*on

analog hearth
#

ah okay, thought so

little osprey
#

But is pcie 3.0 good for the 3090?

stoic island
#

Well

#

we don't know, I'd get PCIe 4.0 just in case if you want full use of the GPU

#

likely fine but who knows

little osprey
#

Is their any mobos with intel 10th gen and pcie 4.0?

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I can’t find any

stoic island
#

no

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intel 10th gen doesn't support 4.0

#

that's why
AMD :D

little osprey
#

Damn

stoic island
#

But Intel still has gaming advantage of single core perf

#

basically, wait for benchmarks

cursive wharf
#

No need for 1000w PSU unless you XOC vBIOS

stoic island
#

because I bet 500 brownie points people will do PCIe 3.0 vs PCIe 4.0 on the next gen cards

cursive wharf
#

and liquid cool GPU

stoic island
#

@cursive wharf Is it even going to be possible on FE if it had 12pin? pulling that much might actually start melting it lel

spiral zealot
#

if nvidia benchmarked for their presentation today with an i9, they were using the 3080 etc on pci-e 3.0

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so it's fine

small heron
#

Yea

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Boomers

cursive wharf
#

@stoic island idk much about 12p, so idk

stoic island
#

I'm going by 6 pin standards so idk

#

can't you pull around 300w from 6 pin before damage?

little osprey
#

In my part picker list , is my psu compatible with the 3090

stoic island
#

prob, but way overkill

cursive wharf
#

10900k also makes little sense. Are you gaming, if so then 10700k. If you're content creation then 3950x or 4950x when it comes out

deep skiff
#

wouldnt it be better to go by 8 pin standards or no

cursive wharf
#

It is at least dual 8p

stoic island
#

6p 8p about the same thing nachos

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it's 3x12v+ground/sense

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:P

foggy hazel
#

depends on what they wanted to achieve @deep skiff

deep skiff
#

yeah the 12pin is 2 8 pins

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hm ic @stoic island

stoic island
#

ofc there's differences

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but eh

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too lazy to look deeper

foggy hazel
#

they ended up with a connector that is way smaller

stoic island
#

It really is true

foggy hazel
#

which makes sense on the FE cards

stoic island
#

it's cleaner

foggy hazel
#

because 2*8 on the FE cards would be a LOT of boardspace

cursive wharf
#

Gauge seems worse but more 12v cables, so going to be fun getting ATX spec of it without calculating yourself

wintry kettle
stoic island
#

ofc, but we don't have that info yet so only speculations for fun :D

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@wintry kettle first, you got time to wait for 3070 in a month?

vital warren
#

^was about to say

stoic island
#

Because that's a lot more performance at the same price

wintry kettle
#

i see

cursive wharf
#

@wintry kettle mobo is a waste of money, NVMe is meh and bad given the budget, Ampere, PSU wattage is overkill and objectively not a great 750w unit

wintry kettle
#

what would youi recomend instead

little osprey
#

Wait for a 3070 , 100%

stoic island
#

X570-p if you want fancy things

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B550 phantom gaming 4 if that's still 115$

cursive wharf
#

AsRock b550 Phantom Gaming 4 when it goes back in stock for $115, MP34/Mushkin Pilot, Enermax DF 650w

stoic island
#

P1 is a great SSD... For lower budgets

#

HCG was at a really nice price for 650w when I looked

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like 110$

analog hearth
#

I have two XPG SX8200s hehe

vital warren
#

might be able to fit a 3080 in that range

#

not sure

analog hearth
#

just got the second today B)

stoic island
#

nvm

#

pcpp is dumb with the "preorder" thing being out of stock

cursive wharf
#

If so then wait for 4600x Zen3 before doing 3080. R5 3600 might not be ideal for 3080

stoic island
#

We'll see

cursive wharf
#

Lowering the rest of stuff should make enough budget for 3080 if 4600 is same price as Zen2

#

Pretty big IF tho

foggy hazel
#

can you imagine the noise the internet will make IF zen3 outperforms intel and (logically) is priced above intel too?

deep skiff
#

id guess $250 tops

stoic island
#

@foggy hazel can you imagine IF IF outperforms Intel in latency?

#

death of monolithic dies

foggy hazel
#

monolithic dies are going away

#

its just a question of time

stoic island
#

that is true

foggy hazel
#

power density will take care of that

stoic island
#

but right now they still hold the top spot in latency

foggy hazel
#

aye aye

stoic island
#

heh

#

Actually Naed, can you tell me what's the issue with monolithic dies?

foggy hazel
#

power is too condensed is basically the problem

stoic island
#

I see

foggy hazel
#

and as things shrink, we still need to connect to those parts

jolly adder
#

If a power supply says that it will fit an ATX, will it fit in a case for mini ATX

foggy hazel
#

it is not as if the mainboard vendors are exactly enjoying dealing with high pincount sockets

deep skiff
#

@jolly adder you mean an atx psu?

jolly adder
#

Yessir

foggy hazel
#

depends on the case

robust tide
#

Does it matter if my fans are on the front or behind the rad?

deep skiff
#

check the case specs to see if it fits an atx psu, but it normal should unless its an itx case

foggy hazel
#

a given case will have a spec for exactly what psu formfactor it supports

#

does that make sense @stoic island ?

jolly adder
stoic island
#

Yes

foggy hazel
#

that is regular atx for the psu @jolly adder

stoic island
#

So it's just they can't squeeze much more in there with that architecture

foggy hazel
#

basically yes

#

and as things get small enough, getting heat away from it becomes a big problem

#

its all well and fine that you have a die that is 10*10mm

#

but that is bugger all actual contact surface etc etc

deep skiff
#

kinda like different processes? where you get to a point where you cant improve the chip on the current nm

foggy hazel
#

and all that i have said is VERY simplified

#

kinda-ish Nachos :)

stoic island
#

We'll keep Naed here all night until all the details are revealed :D

deep skiff
#

kinda ish is good enough for me haha

foggy hazel
#

a potential "obvious" suggestion you might make is this: why not just make the socket way way bigger

#

latency

#

latency is the enemy for that one

stoic island
#

of course

deep skiff
#

big cpu

stoic island
#

Actually, how does monolithic die get such low latency across the board?

#

for some reason

foggy hazel
#

and then you are basically full circle to what started this line of questions

stoic island
#

hehe sorry

foggy hazel
#

nothing to be sorry about mate

#

i like talking about this stuff :)

stoic island
#

:D

foggy hazel
#

re: across the board: finely tuned paths is the simple answer

stoic island
#

Interesting

#

for some reason I thought just stacked dies :P

foggy hazel
#

:)

#

we are not quite there yet

#

we are getting there

#

Foveros is a start

small heron
stoic island
#

where be gpu

warped prism
#

And there is a piece of styrofoam top left next to the fan

#

But yeah... no gpu?

small heron
#

Onboard😎

#

@warped prism @stoic island

#

Came bent rly bad but my psu fixed it good enough

compact verge
#

hey what motherboard is that

cursive wharf
#

b450 Aorus Elite, if talking about Ching's build

desert gulch
#

Ching only thing you dont have plugged in is your 3080 lmao

#

Shoulda gone radeon lol

compact verge
#

oh ok

onyx lava
#

hello best motherboard for ryzen 7 3700x?

calm crypt
#

MSI Tomahawk b450 max in my opinion

#

That’s my favorite board so far it’s budgeted overclocks really well and has lots of bells and whistles

onyx lava
#

what would you say is best with 300$ budget

#

preferably with type c port

#

i'm new to the entire pc building, planning out my first one

calm crypt
#

Yea the tomahawk has type c port on the back, you don’t need a 300 budget for a mobo at alllllllllll especially for a 3700x there’s no need for x570 unless u have a ryzen 9 so find a nice b450 max or b550 board you like and it’ll be perfect

stoic island
#

@calm crypt I'd say no :P

#

on tomahawk max

#

because b550

calm crypt
#

Yea lol that’s true

#

I’m not too up to date with the 550 yet I’m not sure what the budget one in there is

stoic island
#

It used to be decent when b550 didn't exist, but now there's cheaper b550 boards than the tomahawk max that offers more features.

#

B550 phantom gaming 4 at 115$

calm crypt
#

Yes than that’s totally fair

#

Lol

#

Revision get a b550

#

Wait what’s the tomahawk priced at now

stoic island
#

Might've went out of stock, lemme see

#

usually 125

calm crypt
#

I got mine for 105 brand new

#

From Best Buy lol

stoic island
calm crypt
#

Wow yes that’s a great deal for that b550 then bc that’s an awesome board

onyx lava
#

so with no budget in mind what would best compliment a 3700x?

stoic island
#

Look, with no budget in mind, something overkill like a x570 aqua that's like 1000$ would "best" compliment it :P

#

There's always some budget around it

deep skiff
onyx lava
#

lol

stoic island
#

oh god nachos

#

how's that custom board going along

calm crypt
#

Lmao

#

Bro that’s tuff

deep skiff
#

hm

stoic island
#

oh god I'm getting more and more confused the more I look

deep skiff
#

still waiting

calm crypt
#

Bro why does it look like a two hand keyboard

stoic island
#

it's so confusing

#

so you split a 60% in half

#

added numpad and tkl things in the middle in the wrong way around

calm crypt
#

It’s like you need right ctrl? HA drop the mouse

stoic island
#

the board is shaped that way too

#

I'm so confused

#

Thomas has seen enough

deep skiff
#

no clue

calm crypt
#

Yo so like how do y’all get the techi rank

lyric thistle
#

by being techies

stoic island
#

@deep skiff yea how do you get techi

deep skiff
#

we give tecc tip

stoic island
#

tanks

calm crypt
#

Bruh

#

Lol

stoic island
#

much useful

deep skiff
#

wait i thought this was general

calm crypt
#

Nope

stoic island
#

it is now

lyric thistle
#

generally speaking

#

this is not general

#

but the general topic of conversation

#

is more fitted to general

#

generally

onyx lava
#

@stoic island so which board would u get for 3700x for 300 budget?

calm crypt
#

bruh

stoic island
#

bro

#

300$ motherboard?

#

that budget allocation is really wacky

#

get a b550 phantom gaming 4 and spend the rest on GPU

onyx lava
#

well just dont want to spend over 300 on board, i just wanted to know what would be the best option under that amount

stoic island
#

The thing with motherboard is, the benefits don't really scale well as you go up in price

floral flare
#

are you ready for 3070?

#

$499

#

i can't wait for it

#

😎

stoic island
#

a good enough 115$ board does all the major things a 150$ board can, except without some fancy gimmicks

floral flare
#

which motherboard fit RTX 3070?

onyx lava
#

oh i see

#

^

stoic island
#

As far as we know, any @floral flare

#

They say PCIe 4.0, but testing was done with Intel i9, which only supports 3.0 soooo

calm crypt
#

Lol contradiction rules

stoic island
#

PCIe is backwards compatible

#

so it's not really contradictory

onyx lava
#

does the board which you recommended have type c port on io?

stoic island
#

just tells us it doesn't NEED all the bandwidth of PCIe 4.0 for good performance

#

Rear io or front io

calm crypt
#

Unless they decided to like hack intel and make their chip 4.0 with a custom mobo and stuff

floral flare
#

nice

#

October

onyx lava
#

rear

stoic island
#

oh wait it doesn't

floral flare
#

i am waiting for another month

stoic island
#

pro vdh wifi probably does

#

that thing is soo good for connectivity

onyx lava
#

can u send link

stoic island
foggy hazel
#

@stoic island a note on pci-e 4.0 depending on what gen of intel they are using, it could in theory have been done on 4.0

stoic island
#

in theory, very unlikely though

onyx lava
#

oh

foggy hazel
#

11th gen "tiger lake" and whatever else they are called are in theory shipping with 4.0

stoic island
#

in theory that is :D

foggy hazel
#

but that is a very very very wobbly theory

#

blame the seagulls for that one

#

i do.

stoic island
#

Well, it has a bit of footing with mobo manufacturers claiming 4.0 support on Z490, but not from the 10th gen CPU

foggy hazel
#

aye, rocket lake and brethren

onyx lava
#

what board would u recommend which has type c?

stoic island
#

hey uh can you take this Naed?

#

I gotta go soon

foggy hazel
#

i am only up because the seagulls wont bugger off

stoic island
#

I see

foggy hazel
#

so i am going to pass on that and try to sleep again

#

sorry mate

stoic island
#

lemme just list some off rq

lyric thistle
#

Naed schooner captain confirmed

stoic island
#

B550m mortar B550m aorus pro B550m plus B550 pro4

#

B550 a pro

#

B550 vision d

#

B550 extreme 4

vital warren
#

i want the vision d but too much money

stoic island
#

I really gotta go now, one of those is bound to be below 140$, I think a pro was

onyx lava
#

oh ok

#

thank you for the help

stoic island
#

yw

tawdry veldt
#

hi folks

#

does anyone know if there's a pcie bluetooth card that doesn't eat up one of the on-board USB slots?

#

I see USB pcie cards and bluetooth cards that tap in to the motherboard, but nothing with both usb and bluetooth (and wifi). I don't really want to eat up two of my PCI slots for bluetooth, and I certainly don't want to use up my on-case usb ports just to have a bluetooth

stoic island
#

any wifi card should come with bluetooth and shouldn't take any usb midboard headers

#

time for sleep :D

onyx lava
#

gn

earnest olive
#

@serene spire i build them to order and only deal locally, shipping PCs is a pain

#

i do handle buying the parts after receiving a deposit

gentle harbor
#

Do you guys think that if I take the ssd from my old laptop that has windows 10 and try to boot from it with my new desktop, will it still run the full version of Windows?

serene spire
#

Oh ok. Just wondering because I’m building a pc soon but I’m scared about accidentally breaking a part and not having enough to replace

earnest olive
#

it will want a new windows key and you'll probably have to fresh install @gentle harbor

#

windows keys are generally tied to the motherboard

#

and an existing windows install doesn't always play nicely with hardware changes- the more drastic the change the more likely something breaks

#

i7-9700K on Z390 chipset to i9-9900K on Z390 chipset? Should be seamless
i7-4700HQ on FCBGA1364 to Ryzen 5 3600 on B550 chipset? Almost certainly will break

gentle harbor
#

Oh alright. Well I’ve tried it before but with two different Hard drives on multiple different motherboards and Windows booted up.

earnest olive
#

@serene spire just follow a good guide, if you have any specific questions i don't mind addressing them

#

@gentle harbor sometimes you get lucky sometimes you don't

serene spire
#

Ok. I’ll be sure to ask once I start actually building

gentle harbor
#

Well I’m using a Ryzen 3600x along with a Gigabyte 1660 super gaming OC 6G GPU together. This is the first actual fresh build I’ve ever built so I’m trying to figure everything out since I’m used to tearing apart old Desktops and trying to make the best PC out of all of them.

earnest olive
#

you can give it a try... it probably won't boot right into windows, and if it does there will probably be a performance penalty

gentle harbor
#

My Gramps is a tech geek so he collects stuff from people so I can make stuff out of it sometimes.

earnest olive
#

optimally just fresh install

gentle harbor
#

I’ve looked into that and every one that I saw was different. Do you think you could give me a guide on how to do that?

little leaf
#

I know like kinda what I wanna do

#

But I really dont

#

Looking through micro centet

molten cedar
#

Buy everything @little leaf

open raft
#

You need to buy the cheap stuff because the video card is the most important

little osprey
#

i wouldnt recommend that

#

buying cheap parts and then buying an expensive gpu

#

will cause a bottleneck

#

which is not good for your computer

autumn wolf
#

and possible explosion

little osprey
#

the most important part is the power supply

#

you should never go cheap on it

#

new people dont really understand how this works

#

please watch multiple videos and tutorials before doing or buying anything

little leaf
#

@little osprey lmao ik that

#

Was trying to get someone from gen to come no one came

#

3070 and 3600x prob

#

Evovleshift air

#

With a coraair sf 600 wat

#

Maybe 700

#

A 120mm aio from cooler master maybe

#

Not sure

#

Wont go intel because no z490 itz boards on the cheap

#

@autumn wolf you think so little of me you think ill get a 5 dollar plastic explosive peepoSadSip

little osprey
#

Is there gonna be a shortage of 2070 gpu

#

Sorry mean 3070

weary bluff
#

@little leaf i got newegg deal i7-10700k + aorus z490 elite gaming ac for $550

#

z490s arent cheap but the deal helps a lot

weary bluff
#

If i connect 6 coolermaster rgb fans to an arctic 10-fold pwm fan hub that connects through sata power, will i be able to control the fans with software?

#

the fans can connect through 4 pin pwm or 3 pin 5v argb

fervent pewter
#

anyone know the length of the 3080 FE or any reference cards, cant find any of that yet

stoic island
#

3090FE, 3080FE, 3070FE

fervent pewter
#

thanks @stoic island no 3090 for me

stoic island
#

You're welcome

small heron
#

@earnest olive

jagged ember
#

Looking for any input on this build for a friend

stoic island
#

HK???

jagged ember
#

Budget around 700

#

oh, they're in hk

#

so they want hk prices lmao

#

700 USD budget

stoic island
#

wtf is the pricing in

jagged ember
#

for general purpose use and games like skyrim, valorant, hyperscape etc

#

wtf is the pricing in
HKD?

#

that's what they wanted

stoic island
#

bad psu

#

:P

#

wak case

jagged ember
#

😦 oops

#

well, case is whatever imo lmao

stoic island
#

lmfao all that shipping costs

#

@jagged ember just tell them to go find stores locally

jagged ember
#

i'm just getting a reference rn

#

are the parts in the build good for 1080p 60fps gaming

#

aand productivity work

#

@jagged ember just tell them to go find stores locally
@stoic island Also they have no pc knowledge whatsoever

weary bluff
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it would probably be better to get 500gb nvme and 2 tb hdd @jagged ember also you dont need a 650w and that case is 🤮

jagged ember
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yeah, i realized i didn't need 650 watts after i posted it

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I also figured it'd be more cost effective for one single nvme instead of one nvme and one hdd

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but, open to changes!

analog hearth
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I too recommend a 500GB NVMe drive with a 2TB Barracuda

jagged ember
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changes shall be reflected

weary bluff
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if he needs the fast speed of nvme just download some stuff on that and then other things on the hdd

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a singular stick of nvme and nothing else is kinda wak

jagged ember
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I'm just adding an SSD because i don't want their pc to be slow af

weary bluff
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cheaper + more space if u go hdd

jagged ember
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i should ask, shouldn't i

weary bluff
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lol i have an hdd and 2 2.5 sata ssds rn its not rlly slow

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but when i upgrade im going nvme + hdd still

jagged ember
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mm, will take that into account

analog hearth
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You could go with a SATA SSD to start, but I wouldn’t upgrade to an NVMe SSD if you’re looking for speed

jagged ember
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any sata SSD suggestions?

weary bluff
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not samsung

jagged ember
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lol ik

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too expensive

weary bluff
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i bought one before i knew about nvme and i die

jagged ember
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F

weary bluff
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you could probably just get a western digital blue 500gb sata ssd

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but i would "stick" with the nvme

jagged ember
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haha

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it is slightly cheaper with the 500GB Western SATA ssd and seagate 2TB

analog hearth
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Most storage, too

jagged ember
weary bluff
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yeah if he's playing games like valorant then sata would be speed

jagged ember
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toned down to 450 Corsair CXM and reflected the storage changes

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the case will remain the same, however

analog hearth
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Loading a game with a hard drive-only system is actually significantly slower than with an SSD/HDD system (if the game is on the hard drive and not the SSD)

jagged ember
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Good to know!

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oh no, the psu is semi-modular

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rip cable management in that case

analog hearth
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Because Windows struggles to load the game and handle itself with a single hard drive

jagged ember
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rip cable management in that case
Not my problem, though

analog hearth
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Semi-modular would be okay

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Semi-modular is that everything other than the 24-pin and CPU cables are optional

jagged ember
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ooh, that's fine then yeah

weary bluff
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semi is like essential cables

analog hearth
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Basically just as good of an option as fully-modular. I wouldn’t bother paying extra for a fully-modular PSU if the specs between that and the semi are the same

jagged ember
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👍

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so build looks good now?

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ignore the case

weary bluff
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i would change the case

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ooop

jagged ember
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loolll

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i'll see if they can't get some wiggle room with local suppliers

weary bluff
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its not a good look

analog hearth
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Are we sure about that 450W PSU, though?

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I mean, it’s just a 3100 and a 1660 Super

jagged ember
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i could go lower?

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also, is the ASUS TUF model of the 1660 Super okay?

weary bluff
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what type of monitor does he have? freesync, gsync, neither? @jagged ember

jagged ember
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Dunno

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cheapo

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it's that, i think

weary bluff
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oof

stoic island
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There's like 0 g sync ultimate monitors on the market, and if the monitor is made in the last 5 years 95% chance it's got freesync

jagged ember
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whatever the hell that is

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wish there was more gsync lol

weary bluff
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wdym but ultimate

jagged ember
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but at least nvidia also supports freesync

stoic island
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@weary bluff they re-did the naming scheme, it's g-sync compatible, then g-sync, then g-sync ultimate, most monitors on the market are compatible, like none are actual g-sync (ultimate)

weary bluff
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o

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didnt know about that

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@jagged ember

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this is a bit better

stoic island
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fluffy

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ew that ssd tho

jagged ember
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😦 single fan GPU and that ssd

stoic island
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None of the silicon power sata ssds are decent

weary bluff
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no its 2 fan gpu

jagged ember
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oh, it is

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but it so small

stoic island
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P34a80 is the only decent ssd they make

weary bluff
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kekw i have a single fan gpu

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:DDDD

jagged ember
stoic island
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change out that ssd

jagged ember
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we have that emote

stoic island
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:P

weary bluff
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yeah u can change dat

stoic island
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all dem emotes

weary bluff
stoic island
weary bluff
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mr1111 do u know anything abput connecting fans

stoic island
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what about it

weary bluff
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If i connect 6 coolermaster rgb fans to an arctic 10-fold pwm fan hub that connects through sata power, will i be able to control the fans with software?

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the fans have 4 pin pwm or 3pin 5v argb

stoic island
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if the fan hub is connected via 4 pin pwm or something, likely yes

weary bluff
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the fan hub connects with sata power

stoic island
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if it's only sata power

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that would be weird

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if there's nothing else connected to mobo you can't control it with software

weary bluff
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oh it says input sata power + 4 pin fan header

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das good?

stoic island
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which means you can control fan speed and curve through bios using dat

jagged ember
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thank you friends

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the changes have been applied

weary bluff
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and the rgb software will work?

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lol np

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nvm i found something else better

static sphinx
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Computer says 98 in the bottom right when I turn it on. Should I be concerned? What does that mean?

viral ore
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does the system not boot into windows?

static sphinx
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It does

viral ore
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then who cares...

static sphinx
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I just want to know.....

viral ore
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🤷‍♂️

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if its not a problem, dont fix it

static sphinx
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Lmao

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Welp time to read mobo manual

rustic sandal
deep skiff
rustic sandal
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@deep skiff true, just threw in something. Was thinking about the thermaltake floe rc, but mostly for aesthetics. idk if you’ve seen it but it’s a ram and cpu aio

deep skiff
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hm i dont really like it cause it forces u to get their ram which is pretty expensive for what it is, id suggest just a normal aio

spare hull
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Is it worth it to get an rtx gpu on a budget build

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Semi

rustic sandal
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I mean it’s not TOO expensive but you’re right, I just really love the looks.

spare hull
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True ,true but I was thinking of just gettin a 1660

rustic sandal
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Oh I was talking to nachos lol

little osprey
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hey guys

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i am on my other discord acc

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can i get feedback on the build i have

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budget 1600