#building-and-recc-chat | Newegg | Page 605

foggy hazel Aug 25, 2020, 12:27 AM

#

because of the console deals.

#

They have let both Sony and MS lead with some of the announcements about how the tech works

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:27 AM

#

@stoic island I have a current system rn that I wanna upgrade

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:28 AM

#

That changes things

foggy hazel Aug 25, 2020, 12:28 AM

#

which has given nvidia the "space" (time wise) to come in and do the announcement that they will be doing on the 1st

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:28 AM

#

Can you send a list of what you currently have?

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:28 AM

#

@stoic island yea its nothing great it was a first build

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:29 AM

#

We can make some good upgrades to your ram/storage and the such before swapping around cpu/mobo/gpu/psu

#

We can wait to make a decision on those until the new announcements

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:31 AM

#

Well current system is an Intel i6500 with 8gb (2x4) 2666mhz ram
I forget the mobo but it was a cheap gigabyte dh13 maybe?
Storage is 1tb WD blue HDD and 1tb crucial p1 nvme

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:31 AM

#

oof on that cpu/ram
Can you tell me the reasoning behind the new storage in the list?

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:31 AM

#

GpU is gtx 1060 6gb

#

Giving the current cpu to my gf for games

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:32 AM

#

Prob ds3h, that's the low end cheap gb lineup

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:32 AM

#

Yes that's it

#

Well the entire pc not just cpu

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:33 AM

#

because P1 1tb + MX500 1tb + WD blue 1tb + Barracuda 2tb is a slight mess

still roostBOT Aug 25, 2020, 12:33 AM

#

CrazyCarl39#4106 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:33 AM

#

Whiops

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:33 AM

#

Oh so you're going to pass down the old PC

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:33 AM

#

And a ton of storage

#

Yea gonna pass it down, it serves fine I just want something a bit better/newer

#

Just finished graduate school and will getting my job shortly so figured this would be how I spend a little bit of money for enjoyment lol

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:35 AM

#

this is what you should be able to plan for right now
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NMQZtp
Don't buy yet

System Builder

#

First, mobo and PSU can be changed out depending on what starts releasing next

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:37 AM

#

I'm gonna stick with the ram and the case I had picked but the rest looks decent.. thats nvme is better then the ssd I had picked?

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:37 AM

#

I'd suggest you upgrade the og ram you picked

#

because 3000c15 and 3600c16 have a significant enough performance difference on zen 2

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:37 AM

#

I was gonna oc it

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:37 AM

#

we can only imagine what the difference will be for zen 3, but it'll likely be the same

#

OCing is never guaranteed higher freq/timings unless you get expensive b-die

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:38 AM

#

It's not bdie

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:38 AM

#

3000c15 can prob OC to 3200c16 easily, but not 3600c16 easily

deep skiff Aug 25, 2020, 12:38 AM

#

get e die if u wanna oc cheap ram

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:38 AM

#

e die a bit better than cjr

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:38 AM

#

Thats what the ballistic was

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:38 AM

#

but nowhere near as good as b die

#

I am NOT expecting that kit to do 3600c16 lol

#

anyways the kits are the same price sooo
why not :P

deep skiff Aug 25, 2020, 12:39 AM

#

get e die if u wanna oc cheap ram

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:39 AM

#

Was told that the e die should be able to get to 3600 cl16

deep skiff Aug 25, 2020, 12:39 AM

#

i didnt look at the list but those ballistics are legendary for the price/performance

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:39 AM

#

Yea I know that, but 3000c15 isn't exactly the best bin

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:39 AM

#

Yea its the 3000 cl 15

deep skiff Aug 25, 2020, 12:39 AM

#

a lot of people have them at 3600cl16

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:40 AM

#

I thought it was the 3200c16 kits or whatever that could go higher?

deep skiff Aug 25, 2020, 12:40 AM

#

the aek kits are the good ones

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:40 AM

#

They swapped which lines had the e die

#

Used to be the 3200 kits

deep skiff Aug 25, 2020, 12:41 AM

#

but yeah if you dont mind manually tuning theyre solid

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:41 AM

#

Yea I wanted to learn a bit so I was told they are great for a beginner to learn on

deep skiff Aug 25, 2020, 12:42 AM

#

ya theyre like half the price of a good b die kit

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:42 AM

#

wheee no dies listed

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:42 AM

#

Yea I was originally looking at the trident neo first lol

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:42 AM

#

anyways

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:42 AM

#

@stoic island apparently it was a guarantee they made a few years ago or something

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:43 AM

#

E die is good for OCing, I just really don't like buying for OCing up to a better spec

#

OCing is always hit and miss

#

And at this point, you don't gain anything from OCing that kit from 3000c15 to 3600c16, as the ripjaw 3600c16 kit is the same price

#

ig it's your choice in the end

#

ram oc could be fun, I find it hectic and annoying

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:44 AM

#

Haha I'm sure I will too but whats life for if not to explore new things

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:44 AM

#

Next, yes the SSD in my list is much better than the MX500

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:44 AM

#

OK cool, and how is it vs the p1 I have?

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 12:44 AM

#

does anyone know any good white fans

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:45 AM

#

and the next thing is that the TD500 mesh beats the 500dx in thermals and fan count and da rgb :D

#

Better

#

P1 vs MP34 :
QLC vs TLC
2000/1700 vs 3000/2600 r/w

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 12:46 AM

#

i need help

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:46 AM

#

Faster, longer lasting, and higher sustained writes

#

MP34 also has a godly listed write endurance but I'll ignore that for now

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:47 AM

#

OK works for me I think I got the p1 for like 100 bucks so it wasn't horrible

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:47 AM

#

yea P1 is a great drive for builds that need that extra 30$

#

https://dontasktoask.com/

Don't ask to ask, just ask

rocky wren Aug 25, 2020, 12:49 AM

#

@stoic island ight cool man ty for the help I do appreciate it!

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:49 AM

#

You're welcome

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 12:50 AM

#

@stoic island can you help me

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:50 AM

#

https://dontasktoask.com/

Don't ask to ask, just ask

#

is quite simple

deep skiff Aug 25, 2020, 12:50 AM

#

@stoic island nah id get the e die cause then u can crank it up to 1.5v and watch it go brrrrr

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:50 AM

#

lol

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 12:50 AM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rJQZtp

System Builder

#

what would you change to this

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:50 AM

#

Does e die take 1.5v well like b die?

deep skiff Aug 25, 2020, 12:50 AM

#

take it well or take it

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:50 AM

#

I'd spend the extra 2$ for a P1 500gb

solar thicket Aug 25, 2020, 12:51 AM

#

what are you using it for tariq

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 12:51 AM

#

gaming

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:51 AM

#

and buy a mx330-g air for 2$ cheaper and 1 more fan :D

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 12:51 AM

#

its for my little cousin

deep skiff Aug 25, 2020, 12:51 AM

#

hm id go 3100 and a better gpu

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:51 AM

#

also where's the PSU

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 12:51 AM

#

idk what psu to get

solar thicket Aug 25, 2020, 12:51 AM

#

go ryzen 3 3100x

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:52 AM

#

3100x doesn't exist, just 3100

solar thicket Aug 25, 2020, 12:52 AM

#

oh okay thank u sorry

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:52 AM

#

did you mean 3300x?

solar thicket Aug 25, 2020, 12:52 AM

#

YES

#

that one

deep skiff Aug 25, 2020, 12:52 AM

#

bruh 3300x stock is like lower than 0

#

its a shame

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:52 AM

#

yea 3300x never in stock

#

sadly

solar thicket Aug 25, 2020, 12:52 AM

#

it is a good price to performance if you dont need the extra cores

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 12:53 AM

#

what psu should i get

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:53 AM

#

my method of finding a good PSU includes : sort by lowest price, look for decent models, like this
https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-s12iii-bronze-series-ssr-550gb3-550w/p/N82E16817151227

#

ick link didn't do itself

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 12:54 AM

#

ok

#

is that gpu model good?

#

some people are saying its bad

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:54 AM

#

cross reference this for psu
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

Linus Tech Tips

[psucultists] PSU Tier List

PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 14.3 welcome to the brand new PSU Tier List! Created and maintained by @DatTestBench, @Stefan Payne, @GreatMasterAden, @Juular, @Elisis, @Maurice from Madagascar, @boghubodaghi and @LukeSavenije Last Update: 09-08-2020 Commonly mentioned terms: Spoiler P...

#

1660 super is great what are they on about

#

:P

#

ohh ventus oc

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 12:55 AM

#

There saying the ventus oc

#

yeah

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:55 AM

#

cheaper for slightly better afaik :
https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-gtx-1660-super-tuf-gtx1660s-o6g-gaming/p/N82E16814126359

#

Ventus oc just has a bad heatsink/shroud

#

ugh mx330-g air is oos

deep skiff Aug 25, 2020, 12:56 AM

#

for lower powered cards its fine

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:56 AM

#

this would've been a great case
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811553054

#

at 60$

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 12:56 AM

#

ok

#

is the gigabyte oc 1660 good

#

@stoic island

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 12:58 AM

#

Fine

#

But dont buy any gpus now

#

Nee gpus comming soon

#

Soon as in like 2 weeks

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 12:59 AM

#

which ones

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 12:59 AM

#

30xx

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 12:59 AM

#

oh yeah

#

i forgot about those

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:59 AM

#

1660 super, if it's around the 230$, yes

#

@little leaf I think it's safe to temporarily ignore them as they bring no benefit to the sub 300$ GPU market

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:00 AM

#

Well

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 1:00 AM

#

are they really coming out in 2 weeks

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:00 AM

#

We still dont know if a 3050

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:00 AM

#

sub 300$

#

I don't see a 3050 going below 300$ lol

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:00 AM

#

And maybe a 2650s

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:00 AM

#

if they do, well Nvidia is pulling crap out their arses

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:01 AM

#

Lmao

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:01 AM

#

do remember 16xx series came a few months after 20xx series

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:01 AM

#

Homest

#

A 5600xt

deep skiff Aug 25, 2020, 1:01 AM

#

i dont see a 3050 in general

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:01 AM

#

me neither

#

but just addressing the possibility

deep skiff Aug 25, 2020, 1:02 AM

#

rip my 3030 dream

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 1:02 AM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PxdxFT/cooler-master-mwe-gold-550-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpy-5501-afaag-us

Cooler Master MWE Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX P...

#

is this a good psu?

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:02 AM

#

like 20xx mainly launched in January, 16xx mainly launched in march

#

then supers in oct

deep skiff Aug 25, 2020, 1:02 AM

#

2060 launched later tho

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:02 AM

#

oops

#

yea looked at 2060 launch date sorry

#

oct the year prior was when 20xx launched

#

2060 launched jan the next year

#

and 16xx march

#

Well, why not get a CX 550/650 at cheaper at the same tier?

#

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

Linus Tech Tips

[psucultists] PSU Tier List

PSU Tier List 4.0 rev. 14.3 welcome to the brand new PSU Tier List! Created and maintained by @DatTestBench, @Stefan Payne, @GreatMasterAden, @Juular, @Elisis, @Maurice from Madagascar, @boghubodaghi and @LukeSavenije Last Update: 09-08-2020 Commonly mentioned terms: Spoiler P...

drifting timber Aug 25, 2020, 1:14 AM

#

hi

#

anyone waiting for the rtx 3000 series

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:15 AM

#

We all are :D

civic needle Aug 25, 2020, 1:20 AM

#

Can somone online help me be sure the m.2 is correct. I have a limited amount of time to get this new machine built and up. Have not use the m.2 yet.

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 1:21 AM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yYnHwh

System Builder

#

anything i should change?

#

1080p 144hz

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:23 AM

#

G241 at usually 190$

#

@little osprey better ssd

#

P1 for 4$ more

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 1:25 AM

#

okay

fading acorn Aug 25, 2020, 1:25 AM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C3Ftjp

System Builder

#

roast my friends build

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:26 AM

#

Expensive mobo for no reason

#

Git better ram

#

Git better storage

vital warren Aug 25, 2020, 1:26 AM

#

doodoo storage

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:26 AM

#

Git better case

#

Git better psu

#

Lel

knotty kite Aug 25, 2020, 1:27 AM

#

My CPU for my New PC I'm planning on is a intel 9th gen i7

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:27 AM

#

Ripjaw 3600c16 kit, then get at least just a P1/p2 500gb + 2tb barracuda, then get like a mx330-g or something, and a cx550

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:27 AM

#

@knotty kite busget and purpos

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:27 AM

#

Cxm has dat coil whine problem

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:27 AM

#

Guessing gaming

#

And a budget of 1800

cursive wharf Aug 25, 2020, 1:28 AM

#

crucial 3600cl16 tbh

knotty kite Aug 25, 2020, 1:28 AM

#

Mostly gaming but I will use it for other stuff

cursive wharf Aug 25, 2020, 1:28 AM

#

slighly cheaper and slightly better timings

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:28 AM

#

Like?

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:28 AM

#

Tru

knotty kite Aug 25, 2020, 1:28 AM

#

RN I have a 400 $ pre built

#

Oh

#

Like school

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:28 AM

#

So just gaming

#

Budget

knotty kite Aug 25, 2020, 1:29 AM

#

Catching up with friends

#

Yes mostly

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 1:29 AM

#

what b450 motherboard support ryzen 3000 series out of the box

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:29 AM

#

Most of them

knotty kite Aug 25, 2020, 1:29 AM

#

And I want this PC to last me for a very long time

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:29 AM

#

Just not used ones

knotty kite Aug 25, 2020, 1:29 AM

#

My PC over heats

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:29 AM

#

Just budget

#

If your budget is below 1800 dont go intel

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 1:30 AM

#

does the gigabyte b450m ds3h?

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:30 AM

#

Should

knotty kite Aug 25, 2020, 1:30 AM

#

Ryzen?

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 1:30 AM

#

yeah

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:30 AM

#

@knotty kite what is your budget once again

knotty kite Aug 25, 2020, 1:30 AM

#

My budget is up to 1.6K but my PC rn cost 1.1K

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:31 AM

#

Didnt you say you have a 400 dollar prebuilt?

knotty kite Aug 25, 2020, 1:31 AM

#

Yes I do

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 1:31 AM

#

My budget is up to 1.6K but my PC rn cost 1.1K
@knotty kite i got you

knotty kite Aug 25, 2020, 1:31 AM

#

It overheats a lot

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:31 AM

#

Dont make a pc noe

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 1:31 AM

#

wrong thing lol

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:31 AM

#

Rtx 3000

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 1:31 AM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4w4qcq @knotty kite

System Builder

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:31 AM

#

Is comming very soon

#

@errant berry bad bad list

#

Bad

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 1:32 AM

#

is it

cursive wharf Aug 25, 2020, 1:32 AM

#

@errant berry no 2080Ti?

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 1:32 AM

#

i made it for a friend lol

cursive wharf Aug 25, 2020, 1:32 AM

#

or 2080S?

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:32 AM

#

Lmao

#

Bad list

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 1:32 AM

#

he said he wanted the 10600kf

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:32 AM

#

Bad

knotty kite Aug 25, 2020, 1:32 AM

#

O

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 1:32 AM

#

back up lemme speak lol

#

he wanted that cpu

#

i recommended the r5 3600

#

but he said no

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:32 AM

#

H510 bad

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 1:32 AM

#

is it?

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:33 AM

#

Yes

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 1:33 AM

#

i like the look

#

but is the airflow bad?

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:33 AM

#

Bad airflow

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 1:33 AM

#

oh

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:33 AM

#

Bad

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:33 AM

#

H510 just have looks going for it

#

Nothing else sadly

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 1:33 AM

#

makes sense saying there is no front panel that's open

knotty kite Aug 25, 2020, 1:33 AM

#

I will be right back bye for a few min

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 1:33 AM

#

ill remake it

#

sorry

cursive wharf Aug 25, 2020, 1:33 AM

#

just be like 3600+2080S has 10%(random num) better perf then 10600kf+2070S

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:33 AM

#

Over priced mobo

#

Overpriced ram

#

Windows is bought for 140 psu is bad

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:34 AM

#

I trust you or hei are going to make a great list?

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:34 AM

#

Cant

#

Molbile

#

Ill try

cursive wharf Aug 25, 2020, 1:35 AM

#

maybe, am doing it rn

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 1:36 AM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XsbXx6

System Builder

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:36 AM

#

I trust you hei

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 1:36 AM

#

is that better

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:36 AM

#

a bit

#

let's wait for hei

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 1:36 AM

#

is he the master

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:37 AM

#

I'm gonna go watch a lecture

#

too lazy to figure out part pricings and such rn

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 1:37 AM

#

lol i have tax included on that

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:37 AM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z9q4yk

System Builder

#

Somthing like this

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:38 AM

#

RM750x cheaper btw

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:38 AM

#

Some extra fans are like a tiny bit

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:38 AM

#

135$ at corsair

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:38 AM

#

Is it

#

I can tell

#

Hard to look things up woth 3g

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:38 AM

#

is ok

#

I'm gonna go back to my lecture

cursive wharf Aug 25, 2020, 1:39 AM

#

my very quick thing was this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jww6YH

System Builder

#

probs could go b550, but lazy

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:40 AM

#

Hes only gaming so a 3700x inst really needed

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:40 AM

#

3700x reasoning?

cursive wharf Aug 25, 2020, 1:40 AM

#

1.6k budget

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:41 AM

#

oo premium is a neat ssd

deep skiff Aug 25, 2020, 1:41 AM

#

hei hei hei

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:41 AM

#

I mean hea only gaming and school

cursive wharf Aug 25, 2020, 1:43 AM

#

I mean I guess you could do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xv6RQq

System Builder

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:43 AM

#

500w might be a bit tight

#

considering pcpp says this xD

📎 unknown.png

cursive wharf Aug 25, 2020, 1:44 AM

#

10% overload is fine tho

#

for that PSU

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:44 AM

#

efficiency might die off a bit tho

#

but fair enough

#

just tight

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 1:46 AM

#

Still think intel isnt good with this budget

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:48 AM

#

it's an option

cursive wharf Aug 25, 2020, 1:48 AM

#

you can just barely squeeze it in. Just cant get anything about looks or really nice mobo/PSU quality

#

like I doubt that UD mobo is all that good

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:48 AM

#

Of course

cursive wharf Aug 25, 2020, 1:49 AM

#

but if you're mainly focusing on gaming, that build should give the better experience unless it's missing smth

errant berry Aug 25, 2020, 1:55 AM

#

ok

rough glen Aug 25, 2020, 3:25 AM

#

Im very new to PC's and was looking for PC's on craigslist (i know little sketchy) but i found a $500 pc and i dont know if its worth to buy this or build my own. - Ryzen 5 2600

16GB Ballistix DDR4 RAM
MSI RX 570 8GB GPU
ASUS B350F Motherboard
BitFenix 650W Gold Rated PSU
WiFi Card
NZXT H200 Case

#

any help would be great 🙂

elfin burrow Aug 25, 2020, 3:46 AM

#

i would say plug the items into PCPP and see how much brand new would be, then check out depreciation values, and see which would be more value

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 3:51 AM

#

@rough glen how much storage

spiral zealot Aug 25, 2020, 3:53 AM

#

overall that's in the ballpark of fair pricing for a used system, but as @little leaf said, the storage will factor into it. at $500, i'd expect at least a small/mid sized SSD, if not something like a smaller SSD plus a 1-2TB HDD with it.

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 4:11 AM

#

Anyone knows any good 450W PSU? As CX450 is unavailable. Tag me while replying.

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:22 AM

#

Am I making a mistake by going for a 10700k for my gaming PC?
Seems every build I see has a 3600 in it.

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:25 AM

#

Depends on what your aiming for

#

A 3600 is serviceable for most people

#

It's just depending on budget people would rather allocate more money to the gpu for better performance

fierce violet Aug 25, 2020, 5:27 AM

#

I would go amd

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:27 AM

#

If you're going for pure gaming performance with a large budget you're probably fine with 10600k

#

Because gaming wise it pretty much matches the i7

#

If you need the extra cores you need the extra cores

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:28 AM

#

I'm getting a 2070s right now and I'm gonna be upgrading later, will get the most performwnce increase from that.
I just wanna make sure whatever processor I have is not ever going to bottleneck bc I don't want to have to change it

#

And yes only for gaming

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:29 AM

#

A 3600 won't bottleneck a 2070s as far as I know

#

An Intel chip will get more fps but the cost for the fps is kind meh

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:30 AM

#

In general I want to play cpu dependent games so I just want something that definitely won't have trouble

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:31 AM

#

A 3600 should be fine

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:31 AM

#

:/

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:31 AM

#

But it depends on how dependent on the cpu it is

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:31 AM

#

Also I may overclock which I hear isn't too much room for that on amd

#

But there's no other reason to go for amd other than value right? And PCI 4 won't even matter for graphics

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:36 AM

#

I mean and is pushed pretty close to limits out of box

#

But if you wanna pay $200 dollars for the i7 for maybe 20 fps in the best scenarios for intel you do you

#

For things like reports titles you won't really feel the difference

digital flare Aug 25, 2020, 5:40 AM

#

ur mum

#

fat

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:40 AM

#

Oof

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:40 AM

#

Thanks for the info

digital flare Aug 25, 2020, 5:40 AM

#

all g

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:40 AM

#

I get wanting to push for frames

#

But a 10600k is still like $100 more dollars

#

And the chips run kinda hot so if you do want to overclock you might want a beefier cooler

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:41 AM

#

Pig boy

#

any intel wiht a 2070s is not work

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:42 AM

#

@little leaf you ok man

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:42 AM

#

It is stupid to use intel if you don't have a 1700 or more

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:42 AM

#

??

digital flare Aug 25, 2020, 5:42 AM

#

My friend told me that he was going to buy a bunch of Intel CPUs.
I told him to stop that non-Zens.

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:42 AM

#

I'm guess you have a budget of 1500 pig boy

#

if so

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:42 AM

#

I think he's meming

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:42 AM

#

get a 2070s

#

I mean

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:42 AM

#

Oh budget

#

Lol

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:43 AM

#

2080s

#

and 3600

#

intel is stupid

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:43 AM

#

I was so confused about 1700

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:43 AM

#

if

#

you have a budget below 1700 don't go intel

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:43 AM

#

Basically unless you have just money to spare don't go intel

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:44 AM

#

@little osprey what is your budget

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:44 AM

#

If you're at the point where you can put a 2080 to into your build you have the money for intel

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:44 AM

#

2080s

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:44 AM

#

Well I'm in Europe so in gonna convert the cost to usd

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:44 AM

#

give me euro cost

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:44 AM

#

I meant ti but it autocorrected to "to"

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:45 AM

#

I can make lists in either

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:45 AM

#

USD is .85 euro

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:45 AM

#

Just tell me euro

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:45 AM

#

You have the conversion

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:45 AM

#

I have euro pcpp

#

what is the budget

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:46 AM

#

Oh ok

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:46 AM

#

It's like $ 1700-1800 , that's how much my current parts add up

#

It's not euros . I'll get my pcpp link i have my parts there

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:47 AM

#

dm it to me

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:47 AM

#

Which link do I use on pcpo

#

I can't just post here?

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:48 AM

#

I mean it's build chat

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:48 AM

#

dm it to me

#

oh wait

#

they may have whitelisted pcpp

#

link it

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:49 AM

#

Nope it's blocked

#

K I'll dm

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:49 AM

#

bad list

#

very bad lsit

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:50 AM

#

Why

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:50 AM

#

Wait they whitelisted it here but not the other chats?

#

Can I get a copy of the list?

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:50 AM

#

how can it be that bad

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:51 AM

#

Uh you want a 1500-1600 PC with a 75hz monitor?

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:51 AM

#

It is soooo bad

#

for that price

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:51 AM

#

Not even including the parts yet

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:51 AM

#

like insaly bad

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:52 AM

#

You could get very nice high end and parts and more for this budget

#

Amd*

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:52 AM

#

ok well im all ears

#

i just dont want my cpu being a problem for any games in the future

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:52 AM

#

Like $200 and boards are really nice

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:53 AM

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ck8JYH

System Builder

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:53 AM

#

My eyes have been cleansed

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:54 AM

#

so really the only difference is the processor and gpu

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:54 AM

#

you could just get a b550 ds3h

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:54 AM

#

eveyrthing else is the same price point

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:54 AM

#

Man that b550 tomahawk is real nice

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:54 AM

#

@little osprey yes those are the main parts lmao

#

wrong board

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:54 AM

#

you acted like everything i put on there was cancer

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:54 AM

#

the cooler yes

#

intel is cancer

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:54 AM

#

You know those are the most important parts of the build?

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:54 AM

#

d15 is a very good cooler

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:54 AM

#

yes

#

not needed

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:54 AM

#

right, but theres still other thing there. whatever not important thanks for the help

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:54 AM

#

samsung ssd

#

very bad

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:55 AM

#

Yeah overpriced

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:55 AM

#

montior overpriced

#

ram overpriced

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:55 AM

#

For a 75 hz especially

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:55 AM

#

psu never heard of

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:55 AM

#

thats on the linus forum psu tier list

#

on top tier

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:55 AM

#

Huh never seen it

#

how much is it?

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:56 AM

#

I mean I'm sure it's alright

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:56 AM

#

how much is it for you @little osprey

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:56 AM

#

But Corsair makes some really nice psu

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:56 AM

#

its a good price for me

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:56 AM

#

how much?

#

I'm not sure what you think is a good price

#

whenyou got a 75hz montior for 200

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:56 AM

#

well im in poland everything is abit more expensive here tech wise

#

its about 140 bucks

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:57 AM

#

still very bad

#

there is poland pcpp

#

lol

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:57 AM

#

That's about the rm750 ain't it?

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:57 AM

#

still have to make sure i can find these things on the website i use that builds my pc bc im not doig it myself

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:57 AM

#

nvm

#

poland pcpp is bad

#

why won't you build it yourself

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:58 AM

#

Your getting it built?

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:58 AM

#

dont feel like it

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 5:58 AM

#

building it yourself takes like 1h

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:58 AM

#

It's like an hour tops

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:58 AM

#

can we just stick with the parts list please

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:58 AM

#

Especially since you don't have some funky aios or rgb

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:59 AM

#

yeah not into light shows

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 5:59 AM

#

Are those not available to you?

#

The parts I mean

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 5:59 AM

#

i have to check first so 1 sec

#

someone said there was a problem with the motherboard or is this good?

#

the tomahawk b550 on there

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:00 AM

#

Should be good

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:00 AM

#

i dont mind going aroud 200 bucks for it bc i know motherboard is important

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:00 AM

#

I mean the b450 is cheaper

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:00 AM

#

don't buy anything now though

#

rtx 30xx comes out soon

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:00 AM

#

But b550 is better in the long run

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:00 AM

#

its going to be even more expensive then

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:00 AM

#

no it isn't lmao

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:00 AM

#

Idk about that

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:00 AM

#

those are leaks

#

just wait for the launch in 7 days

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:01 AM

#

i heard that its only going to be 3080 3090 out for now and i wont have the money for that

#

3060 only later

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:01 AM

#

WE STILL DON"T KNOW

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:01 AM

#

Uh what?

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:01 AM

#

JUST FHHUSIOFHSJ:DOLF WAIT

#

ALSO

#

A 3060

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:01 AM

#

all caps

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:01 AM

#

WILL NOT

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:01 AM

#

You're okay with the 2080 S build

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:01 AM

#

BE

#

800

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:02 AM

#

But not the 3070 or 3080?

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:02 AM

#

THE 3070 WILL BE LIKE 500-700

#

FREE PERFORMANCE IF YOU WAIT 8 days

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:02 AM

#

well i definitely won't be buying within 7 days

#

dont worry

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:03 AM

#

If the generational leaps are similar a 3070 will be very nice

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:03 AM

#

ya the 3070 will be like a 2080ti

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:03 AM

#

A 2060 was almost an 1080

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:03 AM

#

i see.

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:04 AM

#

It's literally the only reason I'm waiting

#

I too want to build badly

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:04 AM

#

so you can say im picking a good time to do this

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:04 AM

#

Very good

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:04 AM

#

nice

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:05 AM

#

AMD should release new CPUs soon too

#

The leap in performance between the 2600 and 3600 was very nice

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:05 AM

#

the number of people who won't be able to run 3xxx cards due to crap PSUs should be quite entertaining.

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:06 AM

#

well

#

there will be an adapter

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:06 AM

#

I'm trying to pick one out myself

#

@little leaf how is the EVGA GD 700w

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:06 AM

#

they dont have at my place those exact RAMs, its either cl 17 or 32gb
can i just get a different brand

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:06 AM

#

I would wait for the new gpus

#

since I don't think the adapters will be able to put out as much wattage as the full 12 pin

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:07 AM

#

I mean not sure if the 3070 will need it

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:07 AM

#

might

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:08 AM

#

Damn I guess that could be true if they want this to be a new standard

muted wasp Aug 25, 2020, 6:08 AM

#

I have a gold+ 1000 watt 😉

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:08 AM

#

For their higher end stuff

#

I just want to pick a psu because the prices are getting out of hand

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:09 AM

#

is the 3600 good enough? what about 3700 or 3900

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:09 AM

#

And the supply is rapidly diminishing

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:09 AM

#

just wait

#

just wait

desert gulch Aug 25, 2020, 6:09 AM

#

Pipboy what GPU?

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:09 AM

#

well they told me to get a 2080ti but now theyre saying to wait.. so i guess i wait

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:09 AM

#

Huh?

desert gulch Aug 25, 2020, 6:09 AM

#

Yeah wait

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:09 AM

#

just wait

#

I said a 3600 and 2080s for 1500

#

but I said to wait

desert gulch Aug 25, 2020, 6:10 AM

#

And don't get a 3600 with2080ti

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:10 AM

#

ya don't

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:10 AM

#

and like a 3700 woudn't be better or something?

desert gulch Aug 25, 2020, 6:10 AM

#

3700 is better

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:10 AM

#

It's just likely that a 3070 approaches 2080 to performance for less than half the price

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:10 AM

#

very little gaming perf

desert gulch Aug 25, 2020, 6:10 AM

#

As in more corea

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:10 AM

#

To*

desert gulch Aug 25, 2020, 6:10 AM

#

But not more single thread perf

#

Iirc

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:11 AM

#

not much gaming perf

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:11 AM

#

Pip was more focused on gaming

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:11 AM

#

and do i want to get the x version? don't hear anyone talk about overclocking amd really

#

yes true

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:11 AM

#

No

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:11 AM

#

3600x is bad

#

value

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:11 AM

#

All AMD chip are overclockable too

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:11 AM

#

and your not building it your self so I doubt you can oc yourself

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:12 AM

#

i mean i can just watch a youtube video thats no big deal for me.

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:13 AM

#

Building the PC is arguably easier

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:13 AM

#

ya lmao

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:13 AM

#

Im not really getting your logic anymore

#

It's a whole lot easier to screw up an overclock than a build

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:14 AM

#

an overclock i thought you just get good enough cooling and make sure things stay in good temps

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:14 AM

#

And the overclock is more dangerous really

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:14 AM

#

You have a chance to fry the chip

#

and mobo

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:14 AM

#

No it's thinking with voltages and clocks

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:15 AM

#

part of it is good temsp

#

but then you mess with the volatge and sht

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:15 AM

#

I just said if you're aiming for an Intel chip that you want to overclock you'll want a good cooler

#

Because Intel chips already run hot

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:15 AM

#

and don't go intel

#

because intel has no pcie gen 4

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:16 AM

#

can i use a fractal r6 case or something similar bc i like the looks instead of the corsair one

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:16 AM

#

Sure

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:16 AM

#

Although we don't know if 3000 series will fully take advantage of pcie 4

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:16 AM

#

i dont need anything super high airflow i assume

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:16 AM

#

The 3090 prob will

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:16 AM

#

yeah i heard that you will only need pcie4 if you're doing some super storage stuff

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:17 AM

#

Uh if better you do

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:17 AM

#

24 gigs of 21 tbs per sec ram

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:17 AM

#

Airflow is always good

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:17 AM

#

and maybe the 3080

#

too

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:17 AM

#

Any cpu and gpu can run hot if the case ain't good

#

Gamersnexus just reviewed a case with 12 fans and it was terrible

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:18 AM

#

ok ill stick with the r6 because my store only has rgb stuff for the corsair case

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:18 AM

#

oh ya you don't like rgb

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:18 AM

#

Oh you're buying in person?

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:18 AM

#

no its online

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:18 AM

#

Oh?

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:18 AM

#

i mean ill pick up in person but why

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:19 AM

#

bestbuy or somthing?

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:19 AM

#

Does r6 have good airflow? I can't remember

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:19 AM

#

its so so

#

more of a quiet case

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:19 AM

#

It's poland

#

Idk if best buy is in popand

#

Poland

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:19 AM

#

fractal

#

?

#

meshify c is good

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:19 AM

#

i was looking at meshify c and p500a cases before

#

was going to do either of those

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:20 AM

#

p500a and 400a good

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:20 AM

#

don't have 400a here :/

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:21 AM

#

500a is also good

#

But not sure if it comes with a no RGB options

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:21 AM

#

so you guys are saying that in a week im going to be able to buy a 3000 series card thats as good and cheaper? because this 2080ti is too expensive fo rme

#

it does i found it

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:21 AM

#

Pretty much yeah

#

Well announcement

#

Not for sure launch

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:22 AM

#

:/

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:22 AM

#

3090 and 3080 are likely to launch by end of September

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:22 AM

#

stock cooling with the amd cpus is fine? sorry i know basically nothing about them

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:22 AM

#

Likely to be earlier

#

I mean some are better than others

#

But third party is better if you have the money

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:23 AM

#

any you guys recommend?

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:23 AM

#

It's just pretty nice they come with alright coolers

#

The d15 was recommended earlier right?

#

Probably overkill for the cpu though

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:25 AM

#

yeah well if you guys dont think i should overclock then that was the only reaosn i had it

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:25 AM

#

I mean good cooling is always nice

#

Stock cooler is functional if you're on a very strict budget

#

But they can get loud

#

There are plenty of 30-60 dollar coolers that are excellent

#

For the 3600

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:27 AM

#

what would you recommend

#

also is the AOC G2460PF monitor good

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:28 AM

#

I mean depends on which end of the budget your on

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:29 AM

#

since this 2080ti is so expensive and i dont know how much the new cards are going to be i dont really know how much is left in my budget exactly sorry. but i know i want decent stuff that will last

#

maybe ill just leave the cpu cooler for now

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:30 AM

#

The 3600 can get pretty hot with stock cooler

#

Idk how good it is compared to similarly price competition but the hyper 212 Evo is 35 bucks and works well

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:31 AM

#

im still using this list you guys sent me thats why

#

ok thanks

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:32 AM

#

They come with a black version if you're into that

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:32 AM

#

and sorry can i change those rams you suggested to my old hyperx 2x8 3200mhz cl16

#

cant find the ones you picked in 16 only 32

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:32 AM

#

Monitor spec wise looks alright, but I'm not a pro at monitors

#

I mean it really on you

#

If you can't find it you can't find it

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:33 AM

#

wait for the 3000

#

do not

#

buy 2000 rn

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:33 AM

#

Talking about ram

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:33 AM

#

i hear you man

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:34 AM

#

They can't find the 3600 kit I assume

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:34 AM

#

is 3600 that important? i thought 3200 was fine

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:34 AM

#

Ryzen does run better with faster ram

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:34 AM

#

oh

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:34 AM

#

But 3200 works

#

It's just at your budget

still roostBOT Aug 25, 2020, 6:34 AM

#

pipboy#6656 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:35 AM

#

The difference between 3200 and 3600 ram price wise isn't too crazy

#

But if you can't find any kits

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:36 AM

#

ok i just have to find another brand bc that one i cant find in 2x8 3600

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:36 AM

#

Oh yeah that works

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:36 AM

#

i found one thats cl17

#

of the same gskill

#

and 3600

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:37 AM

#

I'm not an expert on latencies

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:38 AM

#

alright

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:38 AM

#

If the latency is too high that's be bad

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:40 AM

#

Dont get cl17

#

Unless is its like 4000mhz cl17-18

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:40 AM

#

Sure there are some cl16 kits

#

If I understand correctly the higher the frequency the hard it is to get lower frequencies

#

Latencies

#

God my brain is dead right now

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:41 AM

#

seems to be that way

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:42 AM

#

It's almost 3 am my god

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:42 AM

#

ok i got some crucial ballistix 2x8 3600 cl16 is that ok

#

its rgb but i guess ill have to bite the bullet

#

Hey

#

thanks for your help guys.

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:46 AM

#

Well I can't really fall asleep anyway

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:48 AM

#

im confused when it comes to amd motherboards. the b550 is not worse than the x570? will there be no future issues?

#

Anyone got a good 400 dollar build that can run warzone pubg fortnite and csgo?

#

Even prebuilts r accepted

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:51 AM

#

I mean it has less features

#

But b550 is perfectly fine

#

Why pay for unneeded features when b550 is perfectly serviceable for even ryzen 9 chips

#

Even some b450 worked really well with ryzen 9

#

$400 for warzone is a tough one

#

Unless you plan to turn a lot of settings down

#

Especially since it feels like with each update you lose 10 fos

#

Csgo and fortnite are easy enough

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:56 AM

#

400 go optiplex

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:56 AM

#

But don't be expecting super high fps

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:56 AM

#

go optiplex off ebay slap in 1650

#

or 970/570

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:56 AM

#

The optiplexes still cheap?

little leaf Aug 25, 2020, 6:56 AM

#

yes

#

off ebay

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:56 AM

#

Feel like theyve been increasing recently

autumn wolf Aug 25, 2020, 6:58 AM

#

they more than likely have considering a lot of people are recommending them and bigger names out there like linus slaps one into his videos

#

starts to get more attention

#

like how the 1600af was and the athlon 3000g

#

they ended up getting more attention

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 6:59 AM

#

so to double check you guys say i wont see any difference in gaming fps with the 3600 vs the an i7?

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:59 AM

#

I mean the 1600 af was only every going to end that way for the value

autumn wolf Aug 25, 2020, 6:59 AM

#

depends which you compare to but yeah, not much of a difference where its like you can go to a next resolution

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 6:59 AM

#

You will see differences if you pair them with the same gpu

#

But at the same budget you be spending over $200 more on the cpu alone

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:01 AM

#

im just worried about cpu intensive games like one with big open maps multiplayer

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:01 AM

#

And probably a little more on the motherboard as well

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:01 AM

#

i used to see a lot of forum posts about people and their performance bc the game was "cpu intensive" i just dont want to have that problem

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:01 AM

#

So at the same budget you get more out of the 3600

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:01 AM

#

because i'd have a lot more left over to spend on the graphics card

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:02 AM

#

Yes

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:02 AM

#

which would more than make up for any tiny cpu fps differences

last zenith Aug 25, 2020, 7:03 AM

#

Get a 3600 ez

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:03 AM

#

Gpus are more important if you want to push more frames

#

Even in cpu intensive games

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:04 AM

#

alright

#

ill take your word on it then

#

the 10600k was pretty tempting to me for a while. and thats a pretty good value too isnt it?

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:06 AM

#

I mean it depends?

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:06 AM

#

im just surprised no one mentions it either. a tomshardware article said it was the best for gaming

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:07 AM

#

10600k pretty much matches the 10700k in gaming

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:07 AM

#

Hey guys

#

Is this a good one?

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:07 AM

#

But again it's much more money

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:07 AM

#

God cant do pics here either

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:07 AM

#

Oof

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:07 AM

#

Where should I post it

#

Or can I dm it to someone

#

Ples

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:08 AM

#

I mean I'm half dead rn

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:08 AM

#

Mkod

#

Mood

#

Here I'll try copy paste of specs

#

Nop

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:08 AM

#

Damn I'm Hungary too

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:08 AM

#

Facebook big mean

#

well ill stick with the 3600 for now since absolutely no one seems to own anything else

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:08 AM

#

Hungry*

#

Damn auto correct

#

Oh it doesn't autocorrect that

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:09 AM

#

Lmao

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:09 AM

#

Of course

#

I mean

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:09 AM

#

Can I dm that ss 2 u?

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:09 AM

#

A 3600 is damn good

#

That why so many run it

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:10 AM

#

and good not just from a value stand point but in general

#

performance

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:10 AM

#

Yeah

#

The difference between it and the 3700x in gaming is minimal

#

For purely gaming it's a good sweet spot

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:11 AM

#

ok. it might be my old amd bias. havent bought a gaming cpu since the 3570k

#

which was the better option back then

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:11 AM

#

I mean yeah

#

And was on phenom and fx stuff

#

AMD*

#

If the new AMD gpus didn't have driver issues they would be a lot more popular

#

I was on FX in 2012 because I was broke

#

But it did everything well enough

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:14 AM

#

back then it was value and not really performance
now its basically both

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:15 AM

#

I mean they're practically neck and neck in comparable price brackets

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:15 AM

#

im still bugged by the fact that intel does have a bit more performance for games but at this point ill just follow what everyone else does. i see the logic of saving money for more important parts

#

dont suppose theres any reason for me to get a 3900 or anything liekt hat right

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:16 AM

#

I mean no

#

What do you need 12 cores and 24 threads for

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:18 AM

#

nothing i guess.

#

7zip lol

#

Lmao

#

7zip he said

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:24 AM

#

But no seriously the fact that we're comparing something with something else almost half it's price is telling

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:24 AM

#

Why not get 12 cores and 24 threads?

#

No reason not to.

#

You can flex. 02LUL

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:25 AM

#

No reason to do it either

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:25 AM

#

No reason to have a PC in the first place.

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:25 AM

#

Big brain stuff rn

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:25 AM

#

Mhm

#

7824_Galaxy_Brain

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:26 AM

#

My 3:30 am brain can't keep up

#

I want to sleep

#

But it just work happen

#

Won't*

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:27 AM

#

No sleep for you. Not until you get the 3900

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:27 AM

#

I basically fatigue myself to sleep

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:27 AM

#

my place doesnt have the corsair rm 750, it only has the rm850i is that good

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:28 AM

#

I mean it's an upgrade

#

A complete overkill one

#

But an upgrade

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:28 AM

#

yeah its expensive but they only have 650 and 850 closest to what is on the list

#

is there maybe another typei can try

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:29 AM

#

I mean you aren't buying rn

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:29 AM

#

yes

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:29 AM

#

You can figure out what youll need then

#

Honestly if you wait long enough we might have ryzen 4000

#

It's supposed to launch by end of the year

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:30 AM

#

oh yeah is the motherboard you picked me going to be compatibl with that

vocal hare Aug 25, 2020, 7:31 AM

#

And if the jump in performance is similar to the jump between 2000 and 3000 series it'll be a nice boost

#

For only like $20 more

#

Because a 4600 would likely go for 200

#

Who knows maybe they'll even push to 5 Ghz

#

Well I'ma try to sleep now

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 7:33 AM

#

the b550 tomahawk will be compatible with it?

#

alright goodnight. thanks again

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 11:15 AM

#

If I get a used cheap brand power supply for a 2600 + Rx 570 build, will I get exploded?

#

One of those 4-500 watt, 20 amp unheard of brand kinda thing

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 11:50 AM

#

unheard brand for how much?

fading sparrow Aug 25, 2020, 11:52 AM

#

probably $40

#

lol

#

if its non modular

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 11:53 AM

#

bruh

fading sparrow Aug 25, 2020, 11:53 AM

#

cant be more than $50

#

if it is get a goddam BQ

#

or BR

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 11:53 AM

#

if it's 50$ might as well get a new one

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:08 PM

#

@little osprey just don't yaknow

jagged ember Aug 25, 2020, 12:10 PM

#

The PSU is the last thing you should cheap out on

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:11 PM

#

unheard of brand = possibly explody boi

#

If it's like trust

#

or like speedlink

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 12:12 PM

#

when your iGPU is more powerful than the dGPU

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 12:12 PM

#

that takes a decade old dgpu

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 12:15 PM

#

ryzen 4000 series iGPUs for sure will be more powerful than some dGPUs

#

decade old dGPU right here

#

It's so old that there's now a CPU with the same identifying number

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 1:19 PM

#

Well I mean I'm not gunna spend 80 bucks on a 200 dollar pc ya know lol, I suppose it's even fine if it explodes .... As long as it won't be enough to injur me or burn my house down lmao, temporary PC, if it's that risky tho il continue waiting it out

#

I was taking about like, a 30$ ones lol, random Chinese stuff

#

AaaaAAa

#

I just found this cooler master for 40,

📎 Screenshot_20200825_092319.jpg

#

Unless that's just a sticker lol

#

I was also considering a regular optiplex i5 and putting a 1050, which I imagine is alot safer but, value isn't as good

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 1:45 PM

#

looks like as sticker

#

what is your build?

#

ryzen 2600 and rx 570

#

hmm

#

Oh no, I mean i7 2600

#

It's just temporary till holidays

#

Then ima resell

#

yikes i7 adds much more power draw

#

I guess I could technically buy my PSU for the new pc now and use that lol

#

that's a good decision to make

#

used PSU usually aren't worth it

#

you can find a 450w PSU for about $40-50

#

I still don't know if I'm getting ampere or rDNA tho, gunna be very different PSU requirements

#

just get a good psu

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:52 PM

#

if you want new ampere gpu

#

wait

#

it's simple

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 1:52 PM

#

^

#

good psus anyway don't explode

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:52 PM

#

we don't know jack squat about tdp

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 1:52 PM

#

yup

#

I am waiting, but I have nothing in the meantime

#

I believe most of the Moore's laws leaks but yeah

#

no TDP released yet for either RDNA or RTX

#

well then getting used stuff is okay mostly

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:53 PM

#

seasonic 12pin leak is only leak

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 1:53 PM

#

You don't need official info to know Nvidia tsp is gunna be way higher tho

#

Tdp

#

yeah nvidia has usually like 30% higher tdp than AMD or higher

#

Architecture and such

#

Can anyone suggest me a good motherboard for AMD Ryzen 3 3200G with M.2 port?

#

Whatever the cheapest one is imo lol

#

Asrock b450 probly

#

Only B450 or B450M?

#

3200g won't use barely any power, whatever gpu u pair with it also won't, don't be too worried that's the kind build where you buy a cheapy mobo, unless u plan on doing upgrade path

#

Ok

#

that's not what they asked lmao

#

My answer was the cheapest compatible one

#

Sort low to high, pick first one lol

#

B450, or m version, don't matter

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 1:59 PM

#

Nvidia... Higher tdp... Than Ryzen?

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:00 PM

#

yes

#

amd

#

Higher tdp then rdna2

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 2:00 PM

#

Lel

#

Ryzen is the CPU lineup

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:01 PM

#

I know lol

#

I just didn't think about it then lmao

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 2:01 PM

#

Yea HBM2 is supposed to be a lot more efficient than gddr6x

#

Also Nvidia TDPs don't increase that much from generation to generation

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:01 PM

#

I hate my 1050ti lol

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 2:02 PM

#

Like 1080 has 180 tdp, 2080 has like 220 tdp

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:02 PM

#

Its sucks

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 2:02 PM

#

1050ti is basically a 570

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:02 PM

#

4gb

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:02 PM

#

Yeah but 570 is better

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 2:02 PM

#

Ye it's low end of low end

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:02 PM

#

1050ti doesnt have pci

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:02 PM

#

Weren't there no power pin 1050 tis?

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 2:02 PM

#

?

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:03 PM

#

Nope

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 2:03 PM

#

1050 maybe

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:03 PM

#

📎 JPEG_20200825_220304.jpg

#

This

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 2:03 PM

#

1650 has no power pin versions

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:03 PM

#

Budget setup 🥺

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:03 PM

#

peepoSadSip

#

I'm going to have the legit ugliest build ever :(

#

that doesn't look so bad

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:04 PM

#

Mine is the ugliest

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:04 PM

#

U have RGB ram and white components, how is that budget lol

#

idk why having a lit up fan would do something lmao

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:04 PM

#

Its budget i just buying extensions

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:05 PM

#

AGP gpus were when again?

autumn wolf Aug 25, 2020, 2:05 PM

#

extensions are fairly cheap especially if theyre just solid colors

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:05 PM

#

and rgb ram is like $20-40 more brugh

#

Which is premium, opposite of budget

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:05 PM

#

extensions are fairly cheap especially if theyre just solid colors
@autumn wolf yup

#

I dont like my case its crap

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:05 PM

#

some lit up stuff barely even has an impact on product price tho

#

what case is it?

#

Some

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:06 PM

#

Bosston atx cs09 gaming case

#

The back slot fan doesnt fit 120mm crap

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:06 PM

#

Corsair RGB RAM adds ~30 to the price tag

#

RGB ram, white components, cable extensions, you probably could have sacrificed all of those for a better GPU and CPU combo, or at least one of the two

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:06 PM

#

So i decided to put it below

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:06 PM

#

Or saved like 100 bucks

#

If my bundled mobo wasn't already RGB then I would have dumped it for the RAM

#

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:07 PM

#

Anyways im just playing csgo not high specs games

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:07 PM

#

I'm bout to be putting a 4700g and 3060 or maybe 3080 we shall see... In like a 30 dollar rosewill case lmao

#

god

#

thing boutta become a furnace

#

G skill aegis ram type stuff too probably lol

#

Il make sure airflow is at least, okay

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:09 PM

#

Can i just get rid of my hdd and replace 2 ssd?

#

What ya think

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:09 PM

#

Hell I might not even get an ssd

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:09 PM

#

Ssd is better

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:09 PM

#

Worry about it when nvme is cheap

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 2:09 PM

#

it's cheap now :D

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:09 PM

#

And games require it

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 2:09 PM

#

120$ mp34 1tb

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:09 PM

#

not too bad anymore

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:09 PM

#

I can afford 50bucks lmao

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:09 PM

#

But when games require it that same spec SSD will be like 70

#

SSDs were much more expensive before

#

for $50 you only get 1 SSD lmao

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:10 PM

#

I already have 1 ssd

#

And 1 hdd

#

256ssd 500gb hdd

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:10 PM

#

Hard drives are still significantly cheaper, and I honestly don't care about load times, I mean I probably will get a small budget SSD but, it's not priority

#

most likely a 250 GB SSD

#

that sounds good

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 2:11 PM

#

P1 500gb is 60$

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:11 PM

#

actually

#

ye

#

Il probably just get tramgroup or crucial, whatever's cheapest and has memory controller thing

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:12 PM

#

When i export files from my hdd to flash drive its so slow like 4mbps

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 2:12 PM

#

tramgroup?

#

also

#

modelbrand

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:12 PM

#

Tramgroup*

#

Omg team

#

Teaaammmm

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 2:12 PM

#

Team MP34 = great
Team MS30 = Beyond trash, throw in trash

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:13 PM

#

I'm not getting nvme untill games require ssds

deep skiff Aug 25, 2020, 2:13 PM

#

modelvbrand

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:13 PM

#

I mention those brands because they have okay budget models lol, but yes

#

nvme has barely an impact in gaming

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:14 PM

#

I have 3 remotes crap

#

📎 JPEG_20200825_221406.jpg

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:14 PM

#

Christmas lights is my RGB lol

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:15 PM

#

Lmao

autumn wolf Aug 25, 2020, 2:15 PM

#

only remote i have isnt even a remote

#

yeet

#

software NYEHE

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:15 PM

#

Cool

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:15 PM

#

Anyone use like phone app controlled lights?

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:15 PM

#

Is it expensive?

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:15 PM

#

Or do remotes just work better

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:16 PM

#

I think remote is convenient

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:16 PM

#

I've been looking at smart bulbs like actual bulbs

#

They seem cheap

#

Why is that funny lol

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:17 PM

#

Never seen that before

#

Better rgb panels

#

Like nanoleafs

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:18 PM

#

Oh like

#

📎 Screenshot_20200825_101930.jpg

#

15 bucks ish

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:19 PM

#

Its better nano leafs panels

#

I stole our dining table and put it in my room lmao

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:21 PM

#

What?

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:21 PM

#

To use as my pc desk

shadow flume Aug 25, 2020, 2:21 PM

#

@potent pike i got 4 remotess

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:22 PM

#

Bruh

#

Lemme see

shadow flume Aug 25, 2020, 2:25 PM

#

@potent pike

📎 unknown.png

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:25 PM

#

We have 2 same remote

#

That 4th remote what is it for?

shadow flume Aug 25, 2020, 2:27 PM

#

rgb lights on my ceiling

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:27 PM

#

The 3rd?

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:27 PM

#

Which chipset is for ryzen 3 3200g?

shadow flume Aug 25, 2020, 2:28 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 2:28 PM

#

any am4 chipset but the latest ones

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:28 PM

#

The 3rd

shadow flume Aug 25, 2020, 2:28 PM

#

3rd is lights behind my monitors

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:28 PM

#

The 2nd

stoic island Aug 25, 2020, 2:28 PM

#

A320, B350, X370, B450, X470

shadow flume Aug 25, 2020, 2:29 PM

#

the other two is for fans rgb,s and for strip lights

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:29 PM

#

Oh

#

Which chipset is for ryzen 3 3200g?
@little osprey i have ryzen 3 3200G too

shadow flume Aug 25, 2020, 2:30 PM

#

@potent pike lights in case

📎 unknown.png

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:30 PM

#

3200G is pog

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:31 PM

#

I wish i had gpu like yours

#

3200G is pog
@little osprey pog?

shadow flume Aug 25, 2020, 2:31 PM

#

its a 2080 super

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:31 PM

#

It makes me feel unworthy

little osprey Aug 25, 2020, 2:32 PM

#

yeah it's a good budget processor

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:32 PM

#

📎 Screenshot_20200825_223046_com.android.chrome.jpg

#

What the 9th slot for?

#

Thats my mobo

shadow flume Aug 25, 2020, 2:33 PM

#

dont let it. i just got a settlement is how i got my build.i had the money so i spent it

potent pike Aug 25, 2020, 2:33 PM

#

How old are u

shadow flume Aug 25, 2020, 2:34 PM

#

for an m2 nvme storage

#

63