#building-and-recc-chat

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little leaf
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@rigid ibex should

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The artic freezer would be better

little osprey
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Did you not read what I said lol

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It doesn’t have a toy

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Gpu but I need one that can play my summer car

little leaf
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@little osprey I dont think we understand what is a summer car

little osprey
rigid ibex
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what is a good white aio

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that will cool i9 10900k

vital warren
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the one you have there will work fine

little leaf
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@little osprey and what does not have a tpy mena?

little osprey
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meant to write GPU

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but phone autocorrected to that

little leaf
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I see lmao

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So Im assuming you already have a gpu

little osprey
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no sadly

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but im just getting the rest of it ready

little leaf
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So your jsut not going to use thr pc until you get a gpu?

little osprey
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i can test with my gpu

little leaf
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Im so confused

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You say u have a gpu

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And you say you dont

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Either way no service

unkempt ibex
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Anyone know how to connect ring stuff in a case

leaden steeple
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is the rx 5600xt drivers fixed?

little leaf
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What do you mean ring stuff?

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Mostly yess

leaden steeple
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what is this?

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lol

little leaf
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3000

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Rtx

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Most likely

leaden steeple
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oh yeahhh

little leaf
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Maybe

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Not forsure

leaden steeple
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i dont have 2000 to buy a graphics card

deep skiff
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😳 what if they just prank everybody

little leaf
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Lmao

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April fools us

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There will be 3060 3070 3080 3090

unkempt ibex
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I meant anyone know how to connect rgb in a case

leaden steeple
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rgb strips

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or a hub

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?

unkempt ibex
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Uh

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I’ll send a picture

little leaf
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Or fans

unkempt ibex
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Ohh it’s fans

little osprey
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@little leaf i have two computers

leaden steeple
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i have the nzxt hub

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do you have a rgb controller?

little leaf
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Well you wont be able to use that pc until you have a gpu in it cause 2600 has no igpu and I would use a b550 for gen 4 pcie for next gen cards

little osprey
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I have no desire to use next gen on that pc

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its gonna be used for minecraft and "my summer car"

little leaf
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I would still recommend getting b550 in case you upgrade in the future

little osprey
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i doubt theres any minitx

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or wait

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why doesnt ity show them....

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Warning!Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard and AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor are not compatible.

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yeah no it isnt

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even under cpu support

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from the looks of it 2nd gen doesnt support it

little leaf
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Guess it doesnt

tranquil dust
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b550 supports 3rd gen and up

little osprey
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When is the good ryzen supposed to be? 5000 series will be zen 4? And 4000 series is zen 3? I'm confused

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Zen 4 is supposed to be the big jump right?

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Or is 4000 zen 4

little leaf
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4000 is zen 3

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Zen is 1000

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Zen 2 is 2000

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I mean sry

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Zen 2 is 3000

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Zen 3 is 4000

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Zen is original ryzen

stoic island
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Zen is 1000
Zen+ is 2000
Zen 2 is 3000
Zen 3 is 4000

deep skiff
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unless they do another wacky thing and call zen 3 5000

little leaf
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1600af is zen + though

deep skiff
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well yeah but we dont talk about that chip

little leaf
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Why ?

deep skiff
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cause

stoic island
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It's special

little osprey
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Thanks yall

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Do y'all think waiting for ddr5 makes sense of your not really rushed, or is it probably like past gens where it's like whatever youl still be fine

little leaf
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Im not sure what you mean

little osprey
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Like even today I wouldn't care if my machine used ddr3 or even 2 as long as the cpu was decent

little leaf
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But ddr5 wont br mainstream for at least 1 and a half years

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Mostlikey more than 2

little osprey
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I could wait like 1, two a bit much

clever pike
little osprey
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But if it enables years longer with the platform I might try waiting

clever pike
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actually this is a bit better

little leaf
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@little osprey I personally wouldn’t wait

little osprey
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Is that an 8 thread cpu?

little leaf
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Yes

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Eait

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No

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Maybe

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Which cpu

little osprey
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3300x

little leaf
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Yes

little osprey
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4threads won't be enough for a 1660 super, but 8 will be perfect probly

little leaf
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4 threads would be fine

clever pike
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it's 4 cores 8 threads

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i'm 90% sure

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lemme check

little leaf
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It is

little osprey
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4 threads ain't even fine for a 1050 these days

clever pike
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yep

little leaf
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Yes it is

little osprey
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Depends on the game, but in some there will be stutter for sure, bottlenecking your 1050

clever pike
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either way it dosent mayyer

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matter**

little leaf
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I wouldnt think so

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Most games don’t utilize all cores

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And threads

little osprey
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Re2 and Hellblade both hold back my 1050 and I had a i5 7500, and 16gb

clever pike
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yeh but did that thing even have hyper threading?

little leaf
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Really shouldn’t

clever pike
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I don't think it did

little osprey
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No hypthreading, that's why I needed 8 threads not 4

little leaf
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A 7500 should not bottleneck a 1050

little osprey
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4 was useless on those games

clever pike
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yeh i'm pretty sure that only the 9th and 10th gen i5 and 3 had hyper threading

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yeh it rly shouldn't

little osprey
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Shouldn't is a word I would agree with

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But it do

clever pike
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if anything the 1050 could b the bottleneck

little osprey
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It do go down

little leaf
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The 1050

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Is very bad lmao

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Like very

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2gb of vram

little osprey
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I'm aware

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The 7500 was the limiter

clever pike
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I mean i'm running a 1050ti and an i5 3470 and I rarely experience bottlenecks sooo

little leaf
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Smae lmao

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I have a i5 4th gen

clever pike
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low tier city gang

little osprey
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Rarely is still sometimes, and if it's bottlenecking a weak card then it's unplayable

clever pike
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can't wait 2 upgrade to this

little leaf
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Im telling u that cpu will not bottle neck the gpu

clever pike
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yeh it won't

little osprey
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I'm telling you in certain games it will lol

little leaf
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It is 100 percent gou bound at that point

clever pike
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mby u jyst got terrible silicon quality

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just*

little osprey
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Games designed with more then 4 cores in mind

little leaf
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Ehich games lmao

little osprey
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Such as re2, and Hellblade

clever pike
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which there aren't a lot of

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I think i've heard of hell blade

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sounds like a doom ripoff

little osprey
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Resident evil 2* remake

clever pike
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ok thats fair

little osprey
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Hellblade senuas sacrifice

clever pike
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minecraft java

little leaf
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Hell blade was not made for more than 4 cores

clever pike
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probhably the biggest one tbh

little osprey
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Well it doesn't run on four cores without major stutter, unless hyperthreading

little leaf
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What...

little osprey
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Or major overclocks

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That might do it

clever pike
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what r we classing as major stutters?

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every minute?

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ever 5 minutes?

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every 10 seconds?

little osprey
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Every minute, microstutter, loading in new assets, both games were like that

little leaf
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The game was designed around the 3rd 4th gen intel cpus

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And fx chips lmao

clever pike
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oh there is nooo way thats was designed for more than 4 on that case

little leaf
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At least the requirements is

clever pike
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wait did the i5 2400 have 2 cores?

little leaf
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I guarantee its the gpu

little osprey
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I'm definitely more sensitive to stutter then most but for me it was almost unplayable, not enjoyable

little leaf
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Unless the cpu is throttling

clever pike
little osprey
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I replaced the gpu with a 1650 super and it did nothing, because my cpu was still hitting 100%

clever pike
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3300x with an x570 board xd

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pre builts suckkkkk

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what cou?

little leaf
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@little osprey shouldnt be happening lmao

clever pike
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cpu?*

little osprey
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And userbenchmark said my 7500 was in the top 1 percentile

clever pike
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and to what gpu

little leaf
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Ub is shr

little osprey
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Or the 99th, or wtvr the good one is lol

little leaf
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Never trust ub

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Run r20

little osprey
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Well my cpu wasn't throttling lol

little leaf
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R15

little osprey
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Iuno why it's so hard to believe newish games stutter on four thread CPUs, when console games have used 6 for years

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I've done the testing

little leaf
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Its hard to understand

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Because

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I have run a 4 gen older cpu

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And ran much more modern games

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With a near equivalent gpu

little osprey
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I upgraded from 8gb to 16, I upgraded the 1050 to a 1650 super , still did nothing, I changed to an SSD and installed the game on that, still nothing, I bought all of that because people said, "that cpu is enough"

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It is not enough

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I returned and sold all of it

little leaf
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It very much is lmao

little osprey
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It isn't

little leaf
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Just run r20

little osprey
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Four threads is dead

little leaf
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And watch temps

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Holy sht

little osprey
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It's a 7500 the temps were fine, I watched temps and clocks on the cpu and ram

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Each core seperatley

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Etc

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The explanation was and is simple, four Intel cores with no HT at 3.6ghz was not enough for those 2 games

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I even capped my fps to 30 fps, in game, using rivatuner, no fps cap, vysync on, vysync off, everything

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Every combination of graphics settings, I went at it for weeks testing

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If your gaming, avoid anything with less than 8 threads, or 6 cores, for the love of God don't listen to people saying it's still enough lol

little leaf
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Why are you being so ignorant lmao

desert gulch
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^

little leaf
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Im am telling you

viral ore
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gamers nexus does all this testing to you know

little leaf
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Yes

little osprey
viral ore
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i mean, the 3600 is the go to budget gaming chip anyway

little osprey
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Sorry for gif lol accident

viral ore
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gamers nexus has done all the testing too

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but they have charts

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and examples

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and explain their testing methodology

little osprey
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And I would imagine their four core chart on re2 or Hellblade would have horribley bad 1% lows

viral ore
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and have tons and tons of system configs

little osprey
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Actually I don't have to imagine but yeah

viral ore
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ok

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you said a 3300x would throttle a 1050?

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omg

little osprey
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No

little leaf
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Lmao

viral ore
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no wonder bitcoins yelling at you lmao

little osprey
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I said four core four thread chips will

little leaf
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He thinks an i57400 bottle necks a 1050

little osprey
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In certain games

viral ore
little leaf
viral ore
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look, bottleneck is a stupid word, so dont use it as a reason for a certain cpu and gpu not being usable together

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honestly, i never use it

little osprey
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Your games that give you problems will be cpu limited then

viral ore
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i just look at what people need, and pick components based on that

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games are still very single threaded nowadays

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3300x IPC and clock speed allows it to run any game imo

little leaf
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Pretty mich

viral ore
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i mean, yeah, anno 1800 gonna struggle

little leaf
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Until games need 8 cores

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At least

viral ore
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but most games will be fine

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of course, that also assumes you dont have another application hammering away in the background

little osprey
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3300x has 8 threads, so yeah I agree it will be fine

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Old i7s are also still fine

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But i5s are not

little leaf
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Old i5s are fine lmao

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I have a 4th gen i5

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And you a 4 core cpu that eill suc

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My core 2 quad

little osprey
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Your just insensitive to microstutter, I am not ignorant, four threads will stutter on a variety of newish games

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That's all I'm saying

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And no not just cities skylines

little leaf
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All Im saying is I disagree with you

viral ore
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so, i should go into my bios, cut off some threads, and run mw?

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because i will

little leaf
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I have too lmao

little osprey
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I imagine COD will run better than re2 did

viral ore
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i dont even know what re2 is

little osprey
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Resident evil 2

little leaf
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Found this

little osprey
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I've been through this convo already

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Show me video, I see the stutter, you won't, solves nothing

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I can get timestamps if you want but, when they first enter the main hall or exit it there should be a stutter

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That is significantly visible

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Regardless of settings

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The game needs an i7 to be enjoyable

viral ore
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i7 is a meaningless term

little leaf
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The people who think i7 means studd

little osprey
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Well if you've been following the convo you know what I mean lol

viral ore
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well, the i3 10100 is 4/8, and the 3100 is 4/8, so this convo has been pointless

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no gaming pc is gonna have less than 4/8

little osprey
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The game needs more than 4 threads to be enjoyable

viral ore
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nah, but that point is useless nowadays anyway

little osprey
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Is it playable? Yeah, is it extremely annoying? Also yes

viral ore
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ok, but once again, it doesnt matter

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any modern cpu has 8 threads minimum

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soooo

little osprey
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If there are people still saying four threads is enough, and is a good pairing with a 1660, then it's not pointless

viral ore
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four threads is enough, but i would never suggest a 2/4 or 4/4 cpu, because there arent any

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aside from the new pentiums, celerons, and athlons

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but at that point just get a prebuilt

little leaf
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9100f

viral ore
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is last gen

little osprey
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Ryzen 3000 has none at all? Well that's good

little leaf
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But still decent choice for very budget

little osprey
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No it is not because it can't run games properly

little leaf
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Emphasis on very

little osprey
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Because it's four threads

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It's a decent choice for budget... If your not gaming

little leaf
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Ok what ever

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You think what u think

little osprey
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Budget gaming is 4c8t minimum

little leaf
little osprey
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Yeah to be fair a crazy overclock might make it viable still

little leaf
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No oc

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No oc

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The list of games I played

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Mw

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Csgo

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Rust

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Hoi4

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Civ 6

little osprey
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CS go has crazy stutter when someone joins or changes team etc

little leaf
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Stellaris

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I ran those games fairly well

little osprey
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I haven't played the rest

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Is that all before 2017? Cause Hellblade is 17

little leaf
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Lmao

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Mw is this year

little osprey
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That's a comp game tho it has to run good

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Cod is known for smooth

little leaf
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Rust is old but now more demanding

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Constantly updating

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And fully realesd now

little osprey
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Ever try resident evil 7? I couldn't do that either

little leaf
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Have not as I dont have the game

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Hoi4 stellaris and civ6 are more cou bound games

little osprey
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Ok ask me this

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Can u play Ubisoft games lol

little leaf
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Yes

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R6

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But thats old

little osprey
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And competitive

little leaf
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What do you consider competitive?

little osprey
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But clearly Ubisoft games would be unplayable on four threads

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New AC games

little leaf
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I dont care anymore lmao

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Think what u think

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Im out

little osprey
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Just tryna avoid ppl wasting money or time on bad advice, the whole four cores is enough is so old and wrong

little leaf
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Please stop

little osprey
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Sure np

little leaf
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It hurts me lmao

stoic island
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@little leaf btw hoi4 and Stellaris have been tested to show that they're not optimised for more threads

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They still stack work on the main cores

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Civ idk

little leaf
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Oh cool

stoic island
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I say 4c8t works for mid end gaming today, just my opinion

little leaf
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I just think he is wrong ehen he says a 7400 bottle necks the 1050

stoic island
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Taurboer (can't spell name) did testing with a 3950x and it didn't really hit hard on more than 4 threads or so for hoi4

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Idk I'm just saying what I do know

little leaf
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How much fps do u get late game hoi?

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And max speed?

stoic island
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My fps is always bad

little leaf
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Mine is like 20 lmao

stoic island
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Hoi4 should be tested for how long a month takes not fps

little leaf
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To 40

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Its mp games

stoic island
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Mines always around like 30-40

little leaf
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Though

stoic island
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Singleplayer better for testing tho

little leaf
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I cant wait to get rid of rhe 10750h 2060

stoic island
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?

little leaf
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I have laptop

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And I hate it

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Sold my desktop to wait for next gen

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Then bought laptop

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From Costco

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With that sweet sweet 3 month return policy

stoic island
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Ah

little osprey
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How much more does a b550 motherboard cost?

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Than a b450

vital warren
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the b550 d3sh is like $94

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micro atx as well

little osprey
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Is it worth the upgrade?

stoic island
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Not really in a budget build, unless you want future proofing for some specific GPUs

little osprey
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Well I am planning on upgrading my gpu to an rtx 2070s

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Not anytime soon but that's my goal

vital warren
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if you do want to go b550 heres an atx one as well just in case

stoic island
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That still only takes PCIe 3.0

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B550 is nice to have

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It's just not very easy to fit in a budget build

little osprey
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Yea

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So should I be good with the b450?

stoic island
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Like I'd throw future proofing out the window if I can get a better gpu with that 30$ I save

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Yea, but if you look more into it, and b550 looks more favorable, it's just 20$ more

little osprey
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@little osprey I mean for 800 you can do 3600 5600xt

stoic island
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Mostly your choice on if you think you need the features

little osprey
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3100 5700 maybe

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Since 5700 back in stock for like 320

stoic island
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nowadays I don't like cutting corners so I'm not great at making budget lists ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

little osprey
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Damn 😂

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Want a list?

stoic island
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The more I learn the more I want the better fancy stuff that's more reliable (and more $)

little osprey
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I mean if you can @little osprey $850 at most

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Hmmmm

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And yes a 3100 and 5700xt should be fine

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Oops wrong lost

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800 dollar 3100 and 5700xt list

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Looks goodb

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Good*

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Think I might just upgrade my original list but thanks for the list anyways@little osprey appreciate it

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Np

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Personally with the list I made I’d switch the cpu to a 3600 and mobo to pro vdh max

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But then it’s be like 870

earnest olive
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i would want more than 1 case fan for a build with a 5700XT

vocal hare
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I mean

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What's the budget

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Left over at least

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Because I think a 5 pack of artic f1s are like $20

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F12 I mean

earnest olive
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problem is the DS3H only has a single fan header

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so it'd cost more than just the fans to add more fans

vocal hare
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Yeah if it's strictly 800 this is kinda tight

earnest olive
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fitting a 5700xt in $800 is ambitious i guess sacrifices have to be made

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probably need to undervolt it

vocal hare
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I know it isn't bottle necked by a 3300x but would a 3100 be or nah?

earnest olive
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depends on the game for sure

vocal hare
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Guess not badly it looks like it's matching or outpacing a 2600

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That Zen+ to Zen 2 improvement

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Kinda impressed it keeps up with the 3600 even in some games

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Til you hit something like siege

odd crypt
desert gulch
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Not the best

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H510 has bad airflow

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And could buy an mp34 for better value instead of evo

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Plus you don't need 32 gigs of RAM for gaming

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And cxms have coil whine sometimes

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@odd crypt

river dew
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yo does anyone know why my frames will freeze for a second in any game i play? i have a rtx 2080, i5 9400f, 16gb ram. i was thinking it was my cpu. so i was gonna get a i7 10700 and a new motherboard. just wanted to see anyone elses opinion

odd crypt
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Alright

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So ima change the ram to 16

river dew
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and my motherbaord wont run dual channel ram. i bought a 32gb kit, but my motherbaord wont boot with more than 1 stick

desert gulch
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What slots is your ram in?

river dew
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the ram sticks wont work in any slot

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not any combination

desert gulch
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Weird

odd crypt
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Ryab

desert gulch
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Yes

odd crypt
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Alright could you update it for me plz

river dew
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but both ramsticks, if only 1 is in, they work in any slot

desert gulch
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Can't clipz

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Sry on mobile atm

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Zibo did you update the Mobo bios?

odd crypt
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Ryab

river dew
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i dont know how to update bios

odd crypt
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I was thinking of getting a crucial

river dew
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i dont know nothing about bios

desert gulch
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Get an mp34

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Look up a vid on it

odd crypt
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Crucial has a mp34

desert gulch
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No it's team group

odd crypt
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Ooooh my bad

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Oops

desert gulch
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And you could get gskill ripjaws ram

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For 8 buck's cheap

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And faster speed

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Just no RGB

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But ryzen benefits from faster ram

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Would honestly wait for 3000 series if you can tho

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@odd crypt

odd crypt
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Cant tho

desert gulch
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Ok

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For 1200 you could definitely fit a 2070 super in there

odd crypt
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I was thinking maybe gaming oc?

desert gulch
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Yeah

odd crypt
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Ok

desert gulch
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I think there's a couple 500$ 2070 supers

odd crypt
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?

desert gulch
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Too expensive

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For a 2070s

odd crypt
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You got 1 in mind?

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My brother

desert gulch
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Coms with rainbow too

odd crypt
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Ok

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Oh hell ya

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Thats in my cart now

desert gulch
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Lol ok

odd crypt
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This 1

desert gulch
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Go with the 3600 speed

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It is around 75-80 iirc

odd crypt
desert gulch
odd crypt
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This 1

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?

desert gulch
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Yes

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Ight going to sleep

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Cya

odd crypt
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Aww

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What bout case

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And mp34

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?

odd crypt
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Any good psu

little leaf
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@odd crypt not a great list

odd crypt
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Why

deep skiff
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Hey guys I’m going to start playing pc do you guys know what’s the best parts for a build of 1.5k?

little leaf
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@deep skiff new parts comming out soon

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At most 2 months

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I think

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So I would wait

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@odd crypt new parts and cooler not needed

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Psu not great

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Ram could be better

river locust
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Just built my pc and only one ram is detected, and I plugged it correctly

stoic island
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Reseat

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Try 2&4/1&3 slots

river locust
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It's on 2 and 4, will try 1 and 3 now

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Hey

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I fixed it I guess but i should press F1 or F2

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F1 to run setup
F2 to load default values and continue

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F2?

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^ fixed my problem but there is another one 😂

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I hope it's not a problem

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My cpu temp at idle is about 50, is that okay?

iron cove
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Hello, I'm looking to build a new pc but don't have much money to spend and am unemployed (looking to get a job after the pandemic has died down a bit). I'm looking to build a system that will run Red Dead Redemption 2 on pretty low settings, except for textures on ultra and lighting on medium.

little osprey
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My cpu temp at idle is about 50, is that okay?
@river locust your cpu will turn off it gets too hot usually. You should worry if it starts to get to like 90 or 100 c

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My cpu idles at around I think 50 or 60 c

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But I have my overclocked and its ryzen 5

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They run hot

jagged ember
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stock cooler doesn't help temps as well, idle around 50-60 with that on stock as well

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wait a minute, there's another one of us here...

fast dust
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@steep juniper we’re not supposed to talk in build pics so I’m coming here
What CPU are you upgrading to?

steep juniper
#

Ah I gotcha,
Either a 3700 or a 3900x

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And then im using 16gb of the 48 for another build

fast dust
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Ohh. Just BTW I wouldnt put a 3900X on that board

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3700X is cutting it close, but still possible

steep juniper
#

Alright

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Something to do with the bios?

fast dust
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Nope. The VRMS

steep juniper
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Or just not the most practical thing

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Ah, I gotcha

fast dust
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That’s a low end, barebones board. 3900X uses a lot of power and I’m guessing the motherboard VRMS wouldn’t be to happy with such a power hungry CPU lol

steep juniper
#

Yeah, if thats the case I may just upgrade the board aswell

fast dust
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Would be a good idea

steep juniper
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Would suck reinstalling stuff and backing stuff up, but for the performance it would be worth it

fast dust
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For sure

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Best of luck to you and your build

steep juniper
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Thanks, see you around

fallen wadi
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This is prob a dumb question but I see 3 pin and 4 pin fans, building my 1st pc in a lot of years, how do i know which one my MOBO uses, i cant seem to find the specifics

desert gulch
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Don't worry about it

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The fan headers on the Mobo should be four pin

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But it's keyed so you can connect a 3 pin

fallen wadi
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i'm trying to pick the best Noctua and was looking at DB ect on the noctua site and wasn't sure. they even list voltages, assuming all mobo driven fans are 12v?

desert gulch
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Are they 4 pin?

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Or 3 pin?

fallen wadi
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it looks like the MB is 4 pin but as far as fans go, im just trying to figure out what will work best (and be quietest) seems like noctua always wins, so they are either, im trying ot narrow down

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(if that makes any sense)

desert gulch
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Makes sense

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Bequiet may have some stuff to look at

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They make quiet stuff

fallen wadi
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yea looking at them next, i need 3 140s and 4 120s ot start i think

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any recommendations?

desert gulch
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What case are you getting?

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Well, artic p12s are very nice

fallen wadi
desert gulch
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Does that case come with any?

fallen wadi
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nope

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alacart

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(im super picky, so im ok with that)

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my thought is to load the front with 4 120s and then the rear and top rear most with 140s

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I can go up form there if necessary

foggy hazel
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why that amount of fans?

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(not for that specific case, but in general)

fallen wadi
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i intend to put a mini atx in the bottom with dual boot for windows server and hackintosh

foggy hazel
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micro atx or mini-itx <- which of the two do you mean?

fallen wadi
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plus i might overclock a little (not crazy stuff link im sure others doo)

foggy hazel
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ah, yes, for the Pro2 its mini-itx at the bottom

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as for OC, if that makes you happy, have at it :)

fallen wadi
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the case i sent supports a miniatx at the bottom as second system

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one of those 2 i haven't spec'ed that out yet

foggy hazel
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there is nothing called mini-atx is my point @fallen wadi

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there is mini ITX

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or micro ATX

fallen wadi
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right

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they sat ITX

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sorry..

foggy hazel
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nothing to be sorry about mate :)

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just trying to understand your logic :)

fallen wadi
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(i never suggested i knew what i was doing)

foggy hazel
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history will tell if any of us do.

fallen wadi
#

right... 😄

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none of the artic fans have DB ratings on partpicker

foggy hazel
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always go to the manufacturer and check the claimed specs of any aggregator site like PCPP

fallen wadi
#

for sure

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I was an integrater for 10+ years a very long time ago... (i htink we started selling 286's)

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i even question those specs

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i dont totally understand the the 2 different 3 pin / 4 pin fans

foggy hazel
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because the aggregator sites are based on what the sellers report. And the sellers have a vested interest in being ... not totally honest with specs.

fallen wadi
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but MOBO support either mostly these days?

foggy hazel
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"i dont totally the the 2 different 3 pin / 4 pin fans" <- try this sentence again please

fallen wadi
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sorry, searching and chatting

foggy hazel
#

nothing to be sorry about :)

little osprey
#

can some one help me

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whats ur problem

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im getting a ssd for my laptop how do i install it and not loose any of my data

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ur gonna have to back up

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the ur old drive

foggy hazel
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or clone the drive via a usb dongle.

little osprey
#

u can using a backup software

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and then

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if u want

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how do you clone

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u can use a usb to sata cable

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and copy the contents of ur old drive onto a new drive

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and then

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put it in

desert gulch
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Or get an external hard drive

little osprey
#

how do you clone
@little osprey there are softwares u can use

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Or get an external hard y
@desert gulch u dont need a external one

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i cant copy and paste in here ??????????????????????????

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that doesn't work

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it only gets some of the drive

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not all

foggy hazel
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@little osprey you got a false @ up there.

little osprey
#

wdym

foggy hazel
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nvm, discord being silly on my end

little osprey
#

ok

#

it this it USB 3.0 to SATA Adapter Cable for 2.5" SSD/HDD Drives - SATA to USB 3.0 External Converter and Cable,USB 3.0 - SATA III converter (SATA-USB 3.0 converter cable)
by iitrust

foggy hazel
#

after i posted what i did, his (Ryan's) post showed up

little osprey
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ok

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it this it USB 3.0 to SATA Adapter Cable for 2.5" SSD/HDD Drives - SATA to USB 3.0 External Converter and Cable,USB 3.0 - SATA III converter (SATA-USB 3.0 converter cable)
by iitrust
@little osprey u have to give a link dm the link and i will post it

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is that what i need ?

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u have to be reg to post links

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also i dont know

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because i cant see it

desert gulch
#

Take https out of the link

little osprey
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its sound right

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but it could be a fake

desert gulch
#

Take https out and it'll let you post it

little osprey
#

there

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yes

foggy hazel
#

that one works

little osprey
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it should work

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and it has good reviews

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done

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lol

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yea its good

#

and how much storage do u need

#

in your ssd

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and whats ur budget

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and what laptop

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so i know what ssd u should get

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what ssd do you recommend ive got £30 id rather have speed over size

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i suggest 860 evo if you are not gonna upgrade for a while to a new laptop

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860 evo

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really

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its one of the best and fastest ssds

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but its might be out of ur budget

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500gb is 60 pounds

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sry

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i meant

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sry that is the pounds symbol

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my bad

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its 67 pounds

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for 500gb

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thats not right thou

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it should be cheaper

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give me a sec

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is this good ?

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if you want speed

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860 evo

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if you want storage u can go any other drive

#

that not in my budget ???????????????????????????????????

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like western digital

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120 to 240

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but i cant suggest that drive u just sent

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cheap drives are usually bad

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ik its not

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ill ask some one else

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i can look for other drives

#

but if u want pure speed its gonna cost more

fallen wadi
#

Data is valuable, it is the only thing that even waiting and time cant replace.

little osprey
#

how much gb do you want

#

@little osprey

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ill get the evo then

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how much gb

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do you need

fallen wadi
#

you have to get decent and correct storage so consider the advice here seriously

little osprey
#

250

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yea

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its 47 pounds

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can u afford that

#

if not

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i can look for other fast ssds

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ill get the evo for my gaming rig and put my gaming fig ssd in a laptop

stoic island
#

Speed on SATA SSDs don't matter that much lol... It's like 450 MB/s vs 480MB/s, can't have huge differences

little osprey
#

ive got a adata su630 for my gaming rig

stoic island
#

Going from like a Vulcan to a 860evo has something like a 50MB/s difference

little osprey
#

sans disk

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would that be good

stoic island
#

I usually just ignore speeds on SATA SSDs, it's around 400 some anyways, just need dram.

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@little osprey dramless

little osprey
#

ok

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the thing is

#

if he goes dram

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it costs more

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out of his budget

foggy hazel
#

that is a bit of a weird statement/stance

#

IF he wants a good ssd. dramless is not (imo) the path to take.

little osprey
#

yea but then he needs to up his budget

sand falcon
#

If you go non dram, you spend more budget replacing it when it fails

little osprey
#

he wont find a good ssd in that budget

#

yea

#

so he will have to wait before upgrading

foggy hazel
#

then perhaps saving up a bit of money is the right choice.

little osprey
#

yea

sand falcon
#

Or trimming a bit from case

little osprey
#

he wants it for his laptop

foggy hazel
#

its a hdd to ssd upgrade in a laptop @sand falcon

jagged ember
#

Then save up, I agree

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Dramless is not an option

sand falcon
#

Get a cheaper case for the laptop, yes

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This was a good idea

opal stratus
#

Any thoughts about these bundles? Have like $500-600 budget lol

little osprey
#

lol

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that bord looks ass ngl

sand falcon
#

The one on the right is probably the better board

opal stratus
#

Fair enough, any recommendations on a cheap board if I don’t bundle

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Form factor doesn’t matter

sand falcon
#

Cheapest right now is the ds3h at $73

opal stratus
#

Ty 🙂

sand falcon
#

If you want the 3600, the bundle will probably be the best bet

#

@little osprey For a sata SSD, just make sure it has DRAM

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If you can get TLC, that's great, but QLC is fine

little osprey
#

what s ram

sand falcon
#

DRAM increases speeds and drive life time

odd crypt
#

Corsair Vengeance lpx 32 gb with 3600mhz is what i recommend @little osprey

sand falcon
#

That's not an SSD

little osprey
#

lol

sand falcon
#

Also isn't especially good ram

little osprey
#

lol

odd crypt
#

Ik its ram

#

Fine billy bob what you recommend

little osprey
#

u can get better ram

#

ripjaws 5

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3600mhz

#

2x16

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Cas 16

sand falcon
#

^

little osprey
#

i cant even put pic in the chat rip

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corsair ram is better for laptops

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i feel

sand falcon
#

Laptops it doesn't really matter speed, so yeah

odd crypt
#

Get this

little osprey
#

ffs

sand falcon
#

Still not an SSD Clipz 🙂

little osprey
#

he wants ssd

#

not ram

odd crypt
#

Oh my bad

little osprey
#

its fine

odd crypt
#

🤦

little osprey
#

buts thats good ram

odd crypt
#

Ik

sand falcon
#

It is that

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Lotsa bits

#

@pale drum How much storage are you looking for and what's your max budget?

viral ore
#

he got kicked

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lmao

lime forge
#

posted the same thing in build pics 3 times asking for tech help after being warned twice

#

kicked

#

may come back, idk

little osprey
#

is there any graphics card price ranging from 100 to 170 thats good

lime forge
#

used RX480/RX570/RX580 on ebay is good value for that price range

#

obviously leaning more towards the RX580 for that price

#

im sure demonmit or somebody could find a better deal

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but im lazy

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😩

little leaf
#

a 1650s could do fine too

#

more perf than all those

lime forge
#

yep

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i for the life of me cannot remember GPU prices to performance and across brands and stuff

#

but that is correct

#

a 1650 super is also good

topaz pewter
#

yo I was wondering if anyone could help me with a PC upgrade situation

lime forge
#

sure

topaz pewter
#

so I have a 6700K, and I just wanna stream, game and video edit from time to time. would upgrading to a 3600 be the right idea?

last zenith
#

Yes @topaz pewter

stoic island
#

Well, the platform is nice, but the CPU itself isn't exactly a great direct upgrade

#

4c8t vs 6c12t will be a pretty good upgrade for editing

#

but gaming wise, the single core perf are about the same

deep skiff
#

yeah waiting might be a good idea, worst case scenario the 3600 drops price

waxen swift
#

I have AMD AM2 940 socket where retention bracket keeps breaking any ideas why this might be happening, 3rd one in 15 months. Any suggestions different cooling fan that does not have the clip that has to go through center, thats what makes it so hard to secure.

soft bison
#

Which cooler does the Ryzen 9 3900x come with? Wraith spire?

stoic island
#

Prism

sand falcon
#

Wraith prism RGB

stoic island
#

Spire on 3900x is gonna run like 90c stock lol

sand falcon
#

That's intel level stock cooling for you

stoic island
#

Hehe

soft bison
#

whats a solid 240mm rad

stoic island
#

Arctic freezer ii hands down best 240mm aio for the price

#

Unless you want a rad for custom loop, depends on how you like your fpi

sand falcon
soft bison
#

is it worth getting an aio for 3900x or is prism good enough

sand falcon
#

For overclock, sure

soft bison
#

Will be doing casual gaming

stoic island
#

If you're not gonna OC or care much about noise, stock works

sand falcon
#

AMD is really good about making their stock coolers good enough for casual use

soft bison
#

Thats what i thought

stoic island
#

That AMD+CM Partnership is great

soft bison
#

Intel stock no bueno

stoic island
#

The only way Intel can one up them is Intel+Noctua

sand falcon
#

AMD stock mostly doesn't exist anymore

soft bison
#

Intel and noctua would be an interesting partnership

stoic island
#

Tho Noctua isn't big enough to be supporting all them coolers, they can design it tho

sand falcon
#

It's basically AMD gives you a free CM cooler

waxen swift
#

exactly, cant find one with different mounting, trying to get clip secured through bottom is almost impossible, was looking for different retention mount bracket,

stoic island
#

Imagine like a l12 except Intel made it

soft bison
#

Idk how the noctua low profile coolers would do on an intel cpu

#

Do the XT series AMD cpus come with coolers or nah

little leaf
#

no

#

and not worth the extra money

#

imo

soft bison
#

didnt think so

little leaf
#

@soft bison what is your budget for you build?

sand falcon
#

The 3600xt does I think

little leaf
#

yes it does

#

he said 3900xt though

sand falcon
#

3600xt > 3900xt

little leaf
#

for gaming yes

sand falcon
#

The extra cores don't actually do anything, it's just AMD marketing bs

soft bison
#

Well I'm buying my friends PC from him for $1300. It has 3900x 2070s 32gb ASUS ROG x570 e mobo. But anyway the discussion was that hes just using stock amd cooler and i didn't know if i should snag a good aio

little leaf
#

that is a bad alocationg of money

sand falcon
#

Stock cooler would be fine

little leaf
#

Wait

soft bison
#

ya 3900x was overkill

little leaf
#

how is all of that 1300

#

it should be more

sand falcon
#

I would recommend 3700x, 16GB and a 2080s

soft bison
#

he doesnt really know what stuff costs and he got it for free

#

so hes selling it to me for discount 😄

#

@sand falcon thats what i would go for but at that price i cant pass up that build for only 1300

sand falcon
#

That is fair

#

I say do it

soft bison
#

I am

#

do you think i should buy aio to replace stock cm cooler?

sand falcon
#

Temps should be fine, and you can always get the AIO later if necessary

soft bison
#

true

#

temps should be good because the games i play probably wont utilize all of those cores

viral pivot
#

my cpu fell while i was building 🙂

stoic island
#

you did a linus

desert gulch
#

^

#

Lol

empty linden
#

Can anyone tell me what the cost of a good gaming computer that I can make?

stoic island
#

For what tasks?

#

800$ is the lowest I'd go using all new parts

#

1000$ for a pretty good PC for a few years

#

(Gaming wise)

empty linden
#

the task of gaming

stoic island
#

Of course if you know your parts and go used you can make a decent gaming machine for like 400$

empty linden
#

I am trying to figure out a budget for a future project

unborn solstice
#

anyone know of software controlled fans that can have 9 connected at once?

#

last part of my build i need

spiral zealot
#

software controlled for RGB, i'm assuming?

valid surge
#

maybe a stupid question... buying components for my first build and am confused - does anyone know if the only ram speed compatible with the intel i7-10700k is DDR4-2933 ? was going to purchase G.SKILL Trident Z RGB Series 32GB(2x16GB) DDR4 3200MHz CL16 Dual Channel Memory Kit - now not so sure it will be compatible with this processor D:

unborn solstice
#

@spiral zealot no for speed. i dont wanna have to load my bios to change it

stoic island
#

@valid surge depends on your motherboard for max ram speed, even if it does limits ram speed, you can just downclock the ram kit

valid surge
#

@stoic island thank you v much!!

spiral zealot
#

@unborn solstice do you need individual control over each fan? or just a single speed for all of them?

unborn solstice
#

2 separate groups

#

separate speeds for each

#

i have 3 high pressure fans on an aio that are separate from 6 high flow fans on the case

spiral zealot
viral ore
#

uhh

#

speedfan rarely works

#

its kinda a dead program

spiral zealot
#

i haven't used it but it said windows 10 support

#

and was recommended on a lot of sites

#

but ok

#

something else like that then

viral ore
#

just look through the update log

#

you'll see

unborn solstice
#

i was looking into spending extra on a fancy brand like corsair bc they have their fan controllers worked out

#

but i kinda dont wanna drop that much on fans

spiral zealot
#

deepcool makes like a 10 port fan hub, but it only reads the PWM speed for whatever is connected to 'fan 1' and then applies that to everything else on the hub

unkempt ibex
#

What is that for it’s in my case

spiral zealot
#

again i haven't used any of these myself

#

but it looks like you can set each fan header to be either bios or software controlled, and then set the curve in software

unkempt ibex
#

Like do I plug that into my motherboard?

#

I have 3 rgb fans in the front

spiral zealot
#

@unkempt ibex if the case has its own built in fan controller, it could be a single header that connects to the fans in the front

#

so you'd only need a single fan header on the motherboard to drive all 3 fans

#

what case is it?

unkempt ibex
#

I don’t think it has a built in fan controller, my aio came with a controller

#

It’s the matrexx 55

#

3f

spiral zealot
#

oh that could be the 3 pin rgb connector

#

if so, that would connect to the rgb header on the motherboard

#

it doesn't look like the connector that the manual labels 'main', but it does look like the 3 pin connector in the 'rgb step 2' part of the manual

unkempt ibex
#

Ohhh ok

spiral zealot
#

just a guess on my part, but that's what i think it is

unkempt ibex
spiral zealot
#

ohh, is the plug in the first pic the one labeled main? or the one that connects to it?

unkempt ibex
#

I don’t know hmmm this is very confusing

#

Those also came with the case

spiral zealot
#

it looks like the default setup is connecting the 'main' cable to the button on the front panel, and that's how you control the RGB on the fans if you don't have/want to use the header on the motherboard. if you do have an RGB header, you disconnect the main cable and reconnect it to another cable that connects to the motherboard, which looks like the top and middle cables in that pic you just sent

teal tartan
#

Anyone have a recommendation for a 120mm rgb fan with really good air pressure? I want to replace the default fans on my nzxt z73 aio's radiator with some rgb

stoic island
#

Arctic P12 for non-rgb

teal tartan
#

The fans it comes with are pretty decent for non rgb i just had a specific look I was going for

spiral zealot
#

corsair ML pro rgb fans have reasonable static pressure, they're pricy though

#

you could always go with a noctua or arctic non-RGB fan and see if you can find the phanteks RGB rings

teal tartan
#

How do these look?

spiral zealot
#

air pressure isn't bad on those, but something like the arctic P12 w/rgb ring will cost about the same for a set of 3 fans/3 rings, and provide more static pressure overall

#

the CM fans are 1.6mm/h20, the arctics are 2.2

#

and run about $10-12 each

#

plus rgb rings from phanteks for about $10 each

desert gulch
#

But if you're a cooler master fanboy, go ahead lol

spiral zealot
#

imo it's better to go for the pressure optimized fan and slap some rgb on it, than to find an rgb fan that has reasonable pressure

little osprey
#

Anyone got any good ideas for a gaming laptop to get?

static sphinx
#

Ryzen 7

#

8 GB ram

#

RTX 2060

spiral zealot
#

it depends on your budget really

static sphinx
#

Yeah

teal tartan
#

Im looking at the halos and i really like them but im kinda worried they only really project light straight out and my radiator fans are top mounted so it might kinda lessen the rgb effect. Is that an unfounded concern?

stoic island
#

A15

west wyvern
#

Anyone able to help me out? my pc has been working fine until after I enabled my xmp setting in the bios, the fans and everything turns on, but theres no output to my monitor and theres 2 red lights on the mobo for the cpu and dram

stoic island
#

reset cmos

west wyvern
#

how?

spiral zealot
#

@teal tartan it's hard to tell, but it looks like it would still provide some pretty decent lighting, even though it projects straight out, if the fan blades are white/translucent though, they really pick up the color and help project

stoic island
west wyvern
#

Ty

#

Ill try it out

teal tartan
#

Ill give it a go and see how it turns out

west wyvern
#

not using an intel cpu btw tho

stoic island
#

battery method

#

works with all modern platforms

#

Intel just happened to have a page on how to do it

west wyvern
#

ahk I’m just waiting now I removed it already

#

@stoic island Thanks dude I got it to boot up again

terse condor
#

Hey kings

#

Ya boi needs advice

#

Trying to figure out why my fans wont respond to my fan curve set in the bios

stoic island
#

yes

#

any software that does fan speeds

west wyvern
#

damn I tried to fix my settings in the bios and it happened again

stoic island
#

reset cmos again xDDD

little osprey
#

What psu should I get for 2080 ko and i5 9600k

west wyvern
#

Idek what the problem would be in bios

stoic island
#

whatever you changed

west wyvern
#

all I did was make my overclock manual and changed my ram to 3200mhz which should be at 3600mhz

#

seems to be booting up now thanks man

leaden vale
#

what board should i get for a new build for a ryzen 9 3900x?

viral ore
#

depends on what your using the 3900x for

#

@leaden vale

soft bison
#

Hello again, ryzen 9 3900x + 2070 super. Would they perform best on 1080p or 1440p monitor at 144hz 1ms response

viral ore
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1080p. obviously

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it will run 1440p 144hz fine tho

soft bison
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Do you think high/ultra on a 1440p 144hz monitor would still run well

viral ore
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i dont see why not

soft bison
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Ik it could get really good perf at 1080p, just trying to get an idea of what they’d be capable of

lucid swallow
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Hello

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I need help

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I m from India I want to build pc under 666 dollars

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Can any1 help me

stoic island
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Indian market a bit hard

fast dust
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What psu should I get for 2080 ko and i5 9600k
@little osprey some sort of good 500w would work. Corsair CX, Cooler Master MWE gold, and then Antec Neo Eco gold are good options

clever pike
soft bison
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@little osprey check the pins for some good power supplies. With your build it sounds like you should definitely go for one of the A tier ones. Like yams said anything like 500w or more should do great

lucid swallow
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Any one here

clever pike
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oof chat has been dead for an entir hour

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entire*

little osprey
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is it possible to build a pc for under 80 dollars??

lucid swallow
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Yes

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Everything is possible

little osprey
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uwu lol

lucid swallow
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Do u want to builf

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I will use 8086 processors