That's you bios flash port
#building-and-recc-chat
sand falcon
jagged ember
flash the bios, lmao
hasty spoke
but how, if the mobo doesnt power
i cant get to the bios screen to begin with
AAAAH
sand falcon
Yup
hasty spoke
but thats where the GPU might be the issue?
but wait!
theres also my cooler which gets no power...
its so many different angles
ive literally been pulling my hair for am onth
jagged ember
yeah, that's pretty weird
sand falcon
Did your motherboard or case come with a little speaker?
hasty spoke
not that i remember
hasty spoke
no it didnt
let me look in the boxes
lmao the depression caused me not to throw away any of the boxes
jagged ember
does that specific mobo really not come with any way to diagnose issues?
sand falcon
Never throw away the boxes
jagged ember
oh, please don't toss out your boxes
sand falcon
It diagnoses over the pc speaker as far as I can tell
hasty spoke
okay so
i have a huge mess on my end
ill admit
and i must find all the components each box came with
i doubt it came with a speaker but i can look into buying one
i have my 2080ti box and ryzen 9 box
i also have the case box
because that no longer works lol (i ripped the front panel off by mistake)
and i have my mobo box but i dont think it came with anything aside the manual and the mobo because i dont see any speaker anywhere nor a driver CD, etc
@sand falcon @jagged ember
jagged ember
Worth a shot
it'd be strange if the cmos was preventing power delivery to the entirety of the mobo
jagged ember
don't use a screwdriver
sand falcon
There's a tab
sand falcon
Just squeeze the tab and it should be spring loaded
After that, unplug the PSU and hold you conductive item of choice between the power swicth pins for a good minute or so
jagged ember
alternatively, just sit and wait for a couple of minutes
fallow bear
sys fan or pump fan for rear exhaust fan?
slender owl
@austere ivy you could dm me your link and I could post it. You could also type it out if you wanted
austere ivy
Thanks again
sand falcon
Np, Budget and use?
austere ivy
I'd like to stay under 900 and gaming as well as school (nothing strenuous for school)
austere ivy
And I plan on maybe dabbling with overclocking hence the aftermarket cooler
sand falcon
3600 isn't the best chip for overclocking, just FYI
austere ivy
Gotcha, I mean in all honesty I probably wont find a need to oc
austere ivy
I'm probably wrong about this but the 3000 series gpus will use pcie 4.0 right? (I'm new to pc building so I may be grossly incorrect lol)
austere ivy
Yes
austere ivy
I might get a wifi card but no
austere ivy
Yeah, I have a netgear powerline but my connection can fluctuate pretty significantly
so I might get a wifi card if that becomes an issue
sand falcon
You might consider a slightly more powerful PSU, since we don't know what the power consumption on the new cards will be like
austere ivy
Gotcha
sand falcon
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VmsmP6/cooler-master-mwe-gold-750-w-80-gold-certified-atx-power-supply-mpy7501acaagus
Heck, it's also cheaper, so it's a win-win
austere ivy
Does a nonmodular psu pose any signficant difficulties when building?
austere ivy
Ok
sand falcon
Would you prefer an ATX motherboard over an mATX?
austere ivy
I'm mostly indifferent if it can get the job done
austere ivy
Pretty good lol
austere ivy
Awesome, thank you
austere ivy
Thanks!
fallow bear
my motherboard has USB 3.2 gen 1 5gbps connectors
one type c and 1 normal
my case only has a 3.0 USB connection
can I plus the 3.0 USB into the normal USB 3.2 connector?
sand falcon
If you have an adapter
analog hearth
@edgy viper I think your top card needs external power (from your PSU)
edgy viper
It’s an SSD. It should have no issues running off the 75w from the slot
@analog hearth
crude otter
Can anyone help me put together a streaming build. Budy of mines kid is starting to stream games like apex fortnite and warzone, budget of 1100 usd
analog hearth
Ah okay
fading acorn
don’t use a 5700 go for 2060-2060s maybe if the price is right a 2070?
desert gulch
@crude otter
Don't pay that much for a b450 tomahawk max
Pay like 115 max
Could go b550 at that point
- Wheres your solid state?
That hard drive will not work as a boot drive good lol
cursive wharf
pay $85 max for a b450 tomahawk tbh
crude otter
Not overly worried about boot speeds, just need it to perform during game play. My buddy isbjustbtrying to help his son out cause he wants to start streaming his play
Will look at swapping mbs
desert gulch
At least get a 120 gb ssd
Please
To put windows on
And maybe something you will open after you boot your pc
foggy hazel
@crude otter the biggest, by far, limit on the "snappiness/feel" of that system. Is the HDD.
desert gulch
Agreed
foggy hazel
you might as well buy a 4 core cpu, without SMT.
because that is how it will "feel" to use it
cursive wharf
@crude otter get this build instead
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ng4MzN
desert gulch
Looks good
cursive wharf
probs get a bit better case cuz you have $30 extra
I usually start off with some super cheap one then shove a better one in after components. Forgot to do that this time
crude otter
Never used pny graphics, so I stayed away from them, or inland, was thinking crucial maybe, but if it's good then I'm good
cursive wharf
judging by brands gets you to bad places
like buying a Corsair CXM, where you think it's good cuz it's Corsair but then has lots of coil whine issues
desert gulch
My cxm works perfectly lol
cursive wharf
Crucial is overpriced 99% of the time for storage btw
desert gulch
I think I got lucky
cursive wharf
CXM is a luck/RMA game
foggy hazel
@desert gulch consider that 8+ years is normal for a actually good PSU
desert gulch
It may have an even longer warranty, I just don't remember
foggy hazel
as long as you are not having issues, all is good
cursive wharf
normal for Seasonic I think
most are 5 pretty sure
warranty wise
actual lifespan should be like 8+ years tho
crude otter
I use a corsair rm750x in mine
cursive wharf
OOS+backordered
depending on retailer
sigh
quickly just looked for one after Phantom 4 shot up in price
was amazing for $115
now is $159 apparently
cursive wharf
Im not a US person
crude otter
Cooler master td500 mesh for case?
crude otter
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/49QPwh heis build but with td500 case
cursive wharf
@foggy hazel what's the quality jump like from a ALC887 to a ALC1200? B550 has dual NVMe for quite cheap now but good sound chip is tad pricy (most given stock issues)
cursive wharf
and b450 TUF Pro has died off
stoic island
afaik anything below an ALC1200/1220 is just bad
but USB headphones (Most Gaming headphones) with built in sound chips doesn't really care about sound chip
cursive wharf
yeah, any USB audio thing doesnt usually care about onboard SPU
foggy hazel
usb audio skips having to think about the on-board sound chip
@cursive wharf re: 887 to 1200: Depends entirely on the user. Because usb headsets and "gamer" headsets are so numerous. It could be debated that it doesnt matter.
But as i have said since day 1. I value decent sound
crude otter
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4dPFRk this is my build
foggy hazel
So for me it matters. And i therefore put "some" value into it. And from my pov. you generally only notice the audio chip WHEN it is not good enough
cursive wharf
@crude otter got a mobo of about same quality but actually in stock now
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wFn6Gc
ripe osprey
ok
old hearth
@cursive wharf you think you could put together a better 2500 build for me
cursive wharf
depends on use case. Also best to wait for RTX 3000/Zen3 for such a high end build
old hearth
ik just wondering if you can put together like a build that would somewhat resemble that with lian li case like fillers until they come out
like im not trully building it until they come out
foggy hazel
not saying that @cursive wharf should not make a list for you @old hearth, but you are basically asking him to make a list that serves no logical purpose
deep skiff
yea the 2 main parts would be missing
old hearth
true true right now i plan to use 10900k and 2080 as filler waiting for 3080 to come out
plan on building it this christmas
oak moss
Ight idk if this is the right channel but I have a problem.
my cpu cooler fan #1 doesnt even wanna spin. itll spin when i turn my pc on, but on games, itll stop spinning. i manually have to spin it for it to spin. so
little leaf
@oak moss lmao are you actually hand spinning the fan?
@oak moss have you checked the fan curve in the bios?
fallow bear
My cas latency is not right, and my memory isnt loading it's full speed (I dont have XMP enabled)
will the cas latency being lower than its supposed to be cause damage?
this says
15-15-15-36 in cpuz
and I have this
little leaf
Lmao rnable xmp
desert gulch
@stoic island I have used adorama before, it works pretty well
stoic island
kk
little leaf
Why tf do people ask then don’t respond
white osprey
Good websites for windows 10 pro key? 15 bucks and below ?!
deep skiff
ebay
white osprey
Not ebay
Ebay strongarm ppl to use paypal
I heard some1 say another website maybe a week ago
I forgot what it was tho
spiral zealot
mercari is one
offerup sometimes has local deals
oh wait, windows key
i used gvgmall
bought a key for a friend, worked just fine
i would take the 580 over the 1050ti
even if it's a 4gb 580
fallow bear
@little leaf I enabled XMP and it updated the values, neat
Is there anything else I would need to do?
I have a b550 motherboard but I dont really know anything about XMP or ram
are there any good videos to watch to set up my system properly?
silk estuary
How does one enable xmp
sand falcon
In bios
foggy hazel
@silk estuary check your mainboard manual. There will be a section that talks about it
sand falcon
It will be somewhere in the bios, possibly hidden away in advanced settings
silk estuary
Will it just say XMP?
spiral zealot
it might call it DOCP
sand falcon
Most likely one of those two
spiral zealot
but either way, if you click into it, you'll probably see the profile itself listed as XMP #1 or something
silk estuary
Aight
sand falcon
Look under overclocking, memory, or ram
foggy hazel
@silk estuary does not matter where you got the mainboard, the manufacturer still supplies a download link for you. All it takes is searching for the model
silk estuary
Well, I'm at work right now and saw it mentioned in chat, figured it would be better to ask then to search through a manual while working
foggy hazel
aye, and the manual will also tell you IF it is even an option.
because depending on your board, it might NOT be an option.
analog hearth
@sullen hamlet let me know how that keeb is
little osprey
I'm having issues booting up my desktop.
I don't have a disk reader for it, could I install the files from my boot disk to my hard/thumb drive on my laptop or can it only be done through a disk reader.
woven horizon
Are you trying to do a fresh installation or mirror the drive?
clever garden
what is a god keyboard for 400 $ in 2020
clever garden
no 200$ 400$
little osprey
Still, that's a lot of money just for a keyboard
clever garden
a mechanical keyboard
foggy hazel
that is not really a "keyboard" @little osprey
little osprey
🤷♂️
foggy hazel
ergodox and similar = keyboard
foggy hazel
@clever garden you know the geekhack forum?
if not, https://geekhack.org/index.php <- then have a look around
deep skiff
@clever garden tfues was a one off custom from keycult
unless you know people that’s probably not gonna happen :v
but yeah geekhack and r/mechanicalkeyboard can point u in the right direction
sand falcon
@cunning flume Is looking to shave some parts off a build to get a better GPU. Any suggestions?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KfxfXv
foggy hazel
start by removing the things that are "nice to have"
sand falcon
Max budget is $1000
foggy hazel
and decide what is most important
looks or performance
because that will inform the majority of the choices
cunning flume
yes i do
sand falcon
Do you already have a wifi adapter?
cunning flume
nope
foggy hazel
might as well grab a board with wifi imo
sand falcon
Yeah. Right now it's only 20 bucks for mobo wifi
A month or so ago, you couldn't find any for less than 170
foggy hazel
@cunning flume is there a particular want/need for ATX as the mainboard size?
cunning flume
yes
sand falcon
What's that?
sand falcon
Yes, I meant what is the need?
cunning flume
but if avalible at a good price then im fine with it
cunning flume
aight then no full atx my bad
foggy hazel
there is no "technical" benefit included with going ATX
foggy hazel
(slots which are generally not used)
sand falcon
What would you say to getting a cheaper case?
cunning flume
absolutley, as long as it doesnt look bad
sand falcon
This look fine?
cunning flume
Yes, looks great
clever garden
ist hier jemand aus deutschland
cunning flume
ye, i actually think it looks better than the one i previously chose
sand falcon
Mier sprechst keinen Deutsch. Sprechen sie Englisch?
Apologies for the horrible grammer
foggy hazel
@clever garden There are most likely some, like myself that can read/understand it. And statistically, there should be some germans here :)
sand falcon
@cunning flume How important would you say a quiet PC is to you?
foggy hazel
but, timezones makes asking about it "right now" a bit of a PITA.
clever garden
boblaserSchark i speak Englisch
foggy hazel
seeing as it is close to 01:00 over there.
sand falcon
How bad was my German? It has been a while since I studied it 🤣
cunning flume
i dont care how loud it is
sand falcon
@cunning flume Here you go https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ppR4HB
clever garden
@sand falcon sie haben ein lustiges profil bild was haben sie in ihren pc verbaut
foggy hazel
@sand falcon side note/question: You are aware that the Fractal Design Focus G exists right?
sand falcon
Yes, I just like the cooler master case
empty linden
What's a good budget for a good gaming desktop build, one I would build myself
sand falcon
@clever garden 2700x, 1660s, 16GB ram
cunning flume
@sand falcon would it be fine to use the 2060 KO instead of the super?
clever garden
ok nice
foggy hazel
because the Q300l + fans is not exactly cheap anymore
not a critique, just an observation on it
sand falcon
Yeah, you could probably get away with only one fan in there, but there was the extra bit left in the budget
I wasn't able to get any meaningfully better specs, so I just went for what I felt was the slightly better case
foggy hazel
yes, which you could use to grab a 550 board instead
sand falcon
Let me check 550 price
foggy hazel
cunning flume
well, i didnt make it clear, but its my bad, i was just trying to make as cheap as possible without dramatically reducing the preformance
sand falcon
36 bucks
foggy hazel
nothing to be sorry about @cunning flume
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6NTmXv <- your list adjusted @sand falcon
cunning flume
what did that change?
clever garden
in deutschland ist es standart das man englisch spricht
foggy hazel
since that is a question: The answer would be no.
the country is big enough that they dont have to be able to speak english.
clever garden
what are good keycaps that you can recommed to me
foggy hazel
That is @deep skiff territory @clever garden
ripe wind
Just completed my build, whats some good games i should try
deep skiff
ree why u ping me I’m at band
foggy hazel
manage your discord notifications better :P
deep skiff
but for keycaps there’s a lot of preferences, profile, material, color, feel
foggy hazel
but the main reason is that i know you actually LIKE talking about keyboards :)
noble vapor
hey guys I've been building some equity lately and I'm looking into doing a build with a ryzen 7 3800x and 32 gb as standards and I was wondering what kinda graphics card I should do. I want to use AMD as it's generally cheaper.
spiral zealot
@little osprey from the other channel, ram needs to be spaced out every other slot, or else you aren't running in dual-channel mode and will take a performance hit
foggy hazel
depends on timeframe and budget
spiral zealot
counting from the left, it should be in slots 2 and 4, so from left to right starting at the CPU - empty - ram - empty - ram
foggy hazel
not really, that is silicon design and pathways in a nutshell
vestal cove
Oh he already told you
spiral zealot
the 2 slots next to each other are a single channel of memory, split into 2 slots, so having two sticks set up like how you have it is only populating one memory channel
little osprey
So use even number ram slots?
little osprey
Wouldn't odd only work the same way too?
foggy hazel
however, it is ALWAYS a good idea to check your mainboard manual. Because there are boards that do it the opposite way around.
spiral zealot
also true
foggy hazel
as in, first and third slot
little osprey
I didn't see anything about that in my manual
vestal cove
I usually says in the board
little osprey
I'll go double check
spiral zealot
but typically slots 2/4 are considered the primary slot for each channel
it's not 100% consistent though
foggy hazel
correct @spiral zealot
sand falcon
And then you have motherboards with only three slots and things get really fun
spiral zealot
the most important thing is to split the sticks up though, because dual channel is what matters, not as much which slot in each channel you're using
spiral zealot
yeah you want to be in slot A1/B1
which might be 1/3 on that board
it's hard to make out
foggy hazel
but as mentioned. it IS in the manual.
spiral zealot
^
little osprey
Ok
foggy hazel
not the quick start guide, but the manual that is.
(some times it is in the quick start, but not always)
but manual? i am yet to see one that doesnt have it
foggy hazel
quick way to sort the question: List the model :)
little osprey
Better?
foggy hazel
yes.
And as i believe has been said to your before. Reading the manual is a good idea :)
vestal cove
When I built my first pc I watched videos on how to build them like 50 times
foggy hazel
imo, reading the manual. Not rushing and remember, NOT RUSHING. is enough for just about anyone to build a pc
little osprey
I've been doing this for the past 6 hours
white osprey
Its okay, took me about 8-10 to finish mine
little osprey
Going have to finish tomorrow
Going to take about an hour long nap, then going to work till 7 in the morning most likely
azure atlas
RM4CG - Dell Alienware Area 51 ALX Processor Liquid-Cooling System
Does anyone have that cooler?
silk estuary
Got my timings and XMP enabled, thanks y'all~
tame copper
Has anyone here created a windows boot media off a Mac?
viral ore
you just gotta write an iso to a usb
tame copper
yes, i did that.
viral ore
im sure there are mac programs you can use
viral ore
i think NTFS works too if fat32 isnt an option
tame copper
i watched a video and people said to use exFAT
viral ore
oh ok
tame copper
i dont think mac has ntfs
viral ore
then exFAT is probably fine
tame copper
hmm.
viral ore
how are you booting from the usb
tame copper
then why doesn't my motherboard pick up the usb?
tame copper
idk
viral ore
are you just plugging it in and waiting?
tame copper
i set the usb to the first thing the pc boots off of
through the bios
but nothing happened.
viral ore
what motherboard do you have
tame copper
MSI b450 tomahawk max
viral ore
does it look like this?
viral ore
see the 3 red boxes in the image
tame copper
yeh?
viral ore
the box at the upper right
viral ore
ok
tame copper
give me 1 minute.
ty sm for the help.
hmm
this is what i see
sorry about the screen, im doing this on my tv... my monitor is coming tomorrow.
@viral ore
viral ore
uhh settings ig
viral ore
?
tame copper
ok nvm i fixed it
for some reason
when i rebooted it
the language went to chinese xD
tranquil dust
my bios did that too when i was using an older tv lol
tame copper
yikes.
this setup is so scuffed
tbh i might just wait for my monitor to come in LOL
It sent me to this screen.
viral ore
ok, so the system couldnt find a boot device
tame copper
hmm.
viral ore
was the switch in the bios set to CSM or UEFI
tame copper
it wouldnt let me even go there
viral ore
looks like CSM to me
tame copper
the boot settings screen just brought me to the boot order
does it need to be set to uefi?
viral ore
probably
tame copper
welp
viral ore
it just depends on how the USB is formatted
tame copper
ok well
viral ore
i would assume its UEFI tho
tall thorn
Putting together new pc got power supply hooked up cpu in and ram plugged in gpu fans on gpu don't run and i cant power on the mobo with my tower button but if I hold the mobo up a bit it powers on by itself but gpu not doing anything
Anyone run into this before ?
foggy hazel
when you say "if i hold the mobo up a bit" what exactly do you mean by that @tall thorn ?
tall thorn
I dont have it screwed to case so I can play around and try to get it to work i just lift it a certain way and it glows and cpu fan spins @foggy hazel
foggy hazel
sounds like you have a short-circuit then
and/or plugs that are not connected all the way
recheck everything.
little osprey
@tame copper I got that too
I just downloaded windows x64 on a thumb drive
It worked then
hearty pine
so i bought a corsair 570x case and i'll be using a ryzen 7 3700x and an msi mag x570 tomahawk and a rtx 2070 super will i need to add more case fans or will i be fine without more fans
tall thorn
@foggy hazel yeah was a shortage got it working 💪 thanks bro
tame copper
@little osprey I’m using https://www.target.com/p/sandisk-cruzer-glide-usb-flash-drive-16gb-2-0-black/-/A-14226970?ref=tgt_adv_XS000000&AFID=google&fndsrc=tmnv&DFA=71700000069753810&CPNG=PLA_DVM%2B0060H00000r5W3gQAE-SanDisk-BTCFY20-Solo-Flight&adgroup=PLA_SanDisk&LID=700000001393753pgs&network=g&device=m&location=9021430&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=CjwKCAjwjqT5BRAPEiwAJlBuBYNeea3NKgTfT5H4VADzghjtqbiTFM9-bDgkD6HSP1QE_tj_ZtRWlxoChKgQAvD_BwE and it still doesn’t work 🤷♂️
peak shoal
hello, i have a question about a wire i found in my pc
stoic island
Continue
peak shoal
i have the razer x lian li dynamic case
and theres this one wire i have no idea what its for, theres no where it connects to on my motherboard or psu so its just chilling
stoic island
What does it looks like?
peak shoal
it looks like a sata cable but its not
stoic island
So it's flat-ish?
peak shoal
yea
stoic island
Can you count the holes like on a fan connector?
stoic island
DM me I'll send it
peak shoal
got you
stoic island
jagged ember
those are cables
sand falcon
USB, audio, and somthing else I don't recognize... Maybe some sort of smart display?
viral ore
HD audio, 2 x USB 3.0, USB 3.2
jagged ember
that silver one i haven't seen before
stoic island
Huh
peak shoal
oh lol okay sorry its been bugging me for over a month now
viral ore
and only mid tier and up board have headers for em
peak shoal
do you know what motherboards have them for amd am4?
stoic island
We could find one if you want
viral ore
i think the b450 tomahawk max has one
stoic island
But mostly x570
peak shoal
if you can, that'd be great. i cheaped out on the motherboard n regret it lol
stoic island
Agh my phone really doesn't like loading up the Mobo sheet lol
peak shoal
its okay
viral ore
peak shoal
thank you!!
viral ore
thats a really good board for the 3700x and under
3800x and up will benefit from some airflow near the VRM heatsink
peak shoal
i have a 3600x, so far so good. High temps r concerning though, but it seems as if its a common issue
stoic island
Well um @viral ore can you look for one with usb 3.2?
viral ore
and 3950x is a solid no
stoic island
I can't figure out how to do filter view on mobile
peak shoal
haha
peak shoal
Also, one more question, can ram be bottlenecking max pc performance if its not the right speed?
viral ore
yes, actually
peak shoal
i.e. using 3000mhz instead of 3600mhz
viral ore
specifically for Zen 2, ram clock is tied to FCLK on the cpu
3000 is fine, but theres more performance to be had for cheap
3600mt/s is cheap
stoic island
Ya
viral ore
actually, 3000mt/s ram isnt super common anymore in high capacities
like 8gb per dimm
its mostly 3200+
peak shoal
Ahhh okay lol, currently overkill atm so, in due time ill upgrade to 3600mhz
little osprey
@tame copper sorry for late reply, at work(12:03 pm), but format the thumb drive and try again. That's what I had to do.
tame copper
What should I format it too?
little osprey
Do you have another computer you can use?
tame copper
I have the new one and a Mac, I always have the option of going to a friends how.
*house
What did you format the drive as?
little osprey
Plug it into there, open up your general folder, that shows this pc, desktop, and your drives. Right click on the thumb drive, click format
peak shoal
format it on the mac, the disk utility on mac is better imo.
little osprey
It'll clear it
viral ore
the mobo sheet has no b550 boards with the 3.2 header @stoic island
peak shoal
always fixed my issue with the drivers
viral ore
kinda wack
tame copper
Ok cause right now I have it formatted as exFAT and that doesn’t seem to be working...
stoic island
Rip
tame copper
Whoops
little osprey
Idk what mines formatted at, unfortunately I'm at work till 7 or 8 am
little osprey
Unfortunately I have no idea about mac's
tame copper
(I’m coming from Mac)
little osprey
I'm not a fan of mac...at all
tame copper
And it isn’t “booting” to it when I turn on my new pc.
@little osprey neither am I. It was my parents work computer.
peak shoal
okay well,
tame copper
I’ve gone into the bios to make it the primary boot.
But nothing happens.
The drive appears in the bios
But it doesn’t actually boot.
little osprey
Idk then
peak shoal
how did you set up the flash drive then?
tame copper
If that makes sense LOL
peak shoal
is it a bootable usb?
little osprey
I started building my first one yesterday 😅😅
peak shoal
if its not a bootable usb its not gonna do anything
if theres nothing on the system theroetically speaking
tame copper
peak shoal
so in order to do that, you're gonna have to install a 3rd party program on mac to make it a bootable usb drive
little osprey
Ideally, plug it in, run bios, and then install windows
peak shoal
okay, so in order for the drive to be usable, it needs to be told to boot from it on the drive itself
little osprey
But if your downloading it from mac, that might be the issue
I have mine set as NFTH or something like that
peak shoal
@tame copper the program i use to make my drives bootable from mac is UNetbootin
little osprey
The default windows drive format
tame copper
@peak shoal alright. I’ll try that tomorrow thank you.
little osprey
I'm also downloading from a windows laptop
peak shoal
Use that program on your mac, it will make it a bootable drive, it'll ask what iso n etc to put, then it will create it for you and will be ready to be utilized
Unetbootin also works on windows
little osprey
Cool, might try that myself too
peak shoal
I recommend it, honestly, running triple boot on mac was a pain till i used that Lol
little osprey
Yeah, I aint ever using apple products
boreal hound
if i have a asus prime z390 A would it support a 10th gen i9
boreal hound
thanks
wild scroll
Hello peeps im new to the server, but i had a question. I plan on getting a 5 3600 (like most) but I dont know whether to get an aftermarket cooler or an AIO. I'm a bit spooked of AIOs because water/coolant in a PC with my luck seems like it could ruin everything so I'm hesitant but also I want to make sure cooling is not an issue. Any suggestions? Thank you
(Also am I in the right channel for this?)
mortal rampart
@wild scroll go to #old-cooling
wild scroll
Oh alrighty
shrewd tundra
is a gigabyte b550m aorus pro better or a b450 tomahawk max>
wary geode
B550
pseudo bluff
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/sH8FvW is this good for a $2500 build?
shrewd tundra
The Asus ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the Corsair CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply does not. This connector is used to supply additional 12V current to the motherboard. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands such as extreme overclocking or large video card current draws may require it.
tame copper
@peak shoal hey, I’m trying to us unetbootin and it’s only giving me options to make Linux drives.
How do I get windows?
fast dust
Through the windows website @tame copper
tame copper
Ah so I need to download the iso and then just use unetbootin to put it onto my usb?
tame copper
Alright thanks.
foggy hazel
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 <- thats the entry point for you @tame copper
tame copper
I already have it downloading thank you.
Is there any difference in doing this and just copy pasting the files onto a usb?
foggy hazel
convenience and it isnt "just" a copy
tame copper
Ah ok ty.
foggy hazel
you are very welcome :)
if unetbootin seems overly complicated for what it does. Give https://rufus.ie/ a look.
tame copper
@foggy hazel it’s been stuck at 349/898 files for the past 5 min. Is that normal?
Or is that the massive 4.9 gb file?
tame copper
Alright thank you.
foggy hazel
it should work
tame copper
Will do.
foggy hazel
if not, then you know why i use rufus :)
tame copper
Alright I’ll give both a try. Ty for the help.
It’s my first pc build and I feel so dumb compared to everyone else 😅
foggy hazel
there are no stupid questions, only silly answers
tame copper
Ok there’s a lot more stuff this time then just what was in the iso.
Is that alright?
foggy hazel
some of that is unetbootin barfing, but it should still work as intended
tame copper
Bottom is the iso.
Alright thanks. ♥️
Should I remove these additional files or just leave it as is?
foggy hazel
just leave them, and hope that unetbootin knows what it is doing :)
foggy hazel
you are on a Mac right?
foggy hazel
lighten up @peak shoal
tame copper
LOL good luck
unkempt ibex
What’s the best case under 60
analog hearth
Not NZXT
tame copper
How do I get it too boot into windows?
Someone please help 😭
@foggy hazel @peak shoal
peak shoal
okay make it the first bootable drive
tame copper
Where’s that?
tame copper
Nothing like that...
peak shoal
send a pic
tame copper
Ok from what I’ve heard
I need to set it to csm or uefi
When I set csm.
When it’s uefi
peak shoal
it'd be under storage to change the boot order
peak shoal
Uefi is wonky imo
little osprey
Is there much difference between the Ryzen 5 3600 - Ryzen 5 3600x?
tame copper
Doing this on a tv sorry, my monitor is supposed to arrive today.
peak shoal
Yes, get the 3600x, i have the 3600x
tame copper
@little osprey oc capability.
peak shoal
I'm chilling at 4.3ghz barely overclocked Lmao
Doing this on a tv sorry, my monitor is supposed to arrive today.
@tame copper and hey no worries, do what u gotta do
little osprey
I’m trying to make a budget build but don’t really know much about pc yet, mind giving me some tips?
peak shoal
u dont need too
peak shoal
thats fine Lol, did you set the flash drive to be the boot drive?
tame copper
Now this is what I see.
That like row called “boot priority” I can move around.
The usb is first.
peak shoal
Aight is your usb connected to your pc rn?
tame copper
Yes.
peak shoal
Cause all you need to do is restart and let the pc take its course
peak shoal
to load the paylod of windows installation
tame copper
Done.
peak shoal
don't click anything
tame copper
Alrighty.
peak shoal
Should auto boot into windows installation
tame copper
I hope so.
peak shoal
Do you see a dotted circle ?
tame copper
Black screen rn.
peak shoal
No text?
tame copper
Nada
peak shoal
might just be taking some time to boot
tame copper
peak shoal
Hmm you made the flash drive a bootable usb thru rufus or unetbootin right?
tame copper
Unet
tame copper
Aye aye
For like a split second there was a “arsenal gaming” screen
Now I’m back to black screen.
peak shoal
Mobo screen. Power off, switch the usb to another port
peak shoal
Then try again. If still fails, double check that the USB is set properly
tame copper
*port?
peak shoal
Doesn't matter, but try for USB0 or USB1
tame copper
I think I only have 2.0 or 3.0
peak shoal
Thats not what i mean Lol
peak shoal
Like the number of ports
stoic island
The ports on rear io
peak shoal
Yea
stoic island
In the back
peak shoal
my bad, bad habit i got into bc of when making modded consoles
Oh god please take out those dp plugs
tame copper
LOOOL
tame copper
Alright speak of the devil
peak shoal
Also there is a rare chance that you MIGHT need to flash the bios
tame copper
My monitor just came 😅
peak shoal
Dp? display port
stoic island
Why is it wrapped in duct tape
peak shoal
LOL congrats
peak shoal
Okay, im going to the store to get new fans so i'll be back shortly
woven wedge
Don’t catch covid lol
errant berry
looks good
tame copper
@peak shoal aight is there anything I need to adjust in the bios?
peak shoal
I was ab to ping you Lol, is it working?
Make sure your ram is set to the advertised speed
tame copper
Someone said something about turning off secure boot or something
I’ll do that after I’m booted into windows 😭😭😭
peak shoal
Ya keep that off
tame copper
How do I do that?
peak shoal
Its still not booting???
tame copper
I’m making a new usb
peak shoal
Wait for secure boot or ram?
sand falcon
You would want all the USB options to be at the top
peak shoal
^
tame copper
So USB key?
tame copper
How do I change that?
sand falcon
Alternatively, you can just use the boot menu to select your USB at boot time
sand falcon
Yup, all the USB on top
tame copper
Ok the key is almost done.
tame copper
It says 1-2 min estimated.
peak shoal
Jus change the ram in there while u at it pls 😭
peak shoal
Lol the speed tho
tame copper
I can always come back once I get a boot 😭😭😭
sand falcon
Yup
tame copper
Question, what is “game boost”
sand falcon
No clue.
#1 rule of debugging is don't change anything you don't need to until after it's fixed
tame copper
Aye aye
sand falcon
@peak shoal Did you turn on ultra fast boot or such like?
tame copper
peak shoal
No, i have the boot to be 18 seconds
sand falcon
yes
sand falcon
Nah
tame copper
sand falcon
That looks promising
tame copper
It’s in a red one
I don’t have blue
Ok turning on
Do I click anything?
I get this screen...
tame copper
Tomahawk b450 Max
uncut goblet
Budget PC Build (wanting to try an AMD build), still deciding on what case, curious if anyone else has these parts, or opinions on them.
sand falcon
Reboot and spam the F11 key
tame copper
That case is not good at all
sand falcon
As it's booting
tame copper
uncut goblet
Which case?
tame copper
The deep cool one
tame copper
Regular or uefi?
tame copper
Ok
sand falcon
If that doesn't work, retry with regular
sand falcon
👍
sand falcon
@uncut goblet What is your budget?
@tame copper Okay. Try remaking the USB with that tool it suggested earlier
uncut goblet
@sand falcon As cheap as possible. I am going to salvage parts from my current PC to complete this one. I am going for a cheaper RGB theme (with some lighting).
sand falcon
What parts will you be able to reuse?
uncut goblet
i5 6600k CPU currently
I have a 750w PSU
1660 Ti GPU
sand falcon
Nice
Sounds like it should be possible just to do a motherboard swap
How much ram do have at what speed?
tame copper
@stoic island please help
Ok wait
With boot camp
It’s just letting me run windows on Mac...
sand falcon
Dang
tame copper
That doesn’t really help me 😭
sand falcon
Look to see if there are any microcenter stores nearby
stoic island
in msi bios theres a boot override thing so I thought you were going for that lol
sand falcon
Already tried that one
tame copper
Where do I find that @stoic island
Oh is that the order thing we did?
Ok wait
Could I theoretically.
Run boot camp.
Make my Mac a windows computer
Then download the iso from there
And would that work?
sand falcon
Yes
tame copper
Mannnn this process makes me cry
sand falcon
Apple sucks
sand falcon
Good
stoic island
wait bob I'm talking about the thing in bios that lets you choose which thing to boot from directly
sand falcon
Yeah
tame copper
I think we tried that
stoic island
not boot order
sand falcon
Yeah
stoic island
alright
sand falcon
I think the issue is that mac can't make the drive bootable
tame copper
So I can have windows on Mac
sand falcon
Nice
stoic island
alright
sand falcon
This should get there
tame copper
Hopefully
I’m gonna need to remake the key for like a seventh time now 😭
Ok I don’t want to bother you guys from here
Basically if I follow like a YouTube guide on how to make a key from windows this’ll work right?
sand falcon
Hopefully
tame copper
@sand falcon do you think flashing the bios on the mb would help?
sand falcon
maybe
sand falcon
ntfs